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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Anyone watching any of the Trump Impeachment trial?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Yeah, he seems pretty fucked to be honest

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

He will get away with it the same as he did the last 4 years.

Waving his hands around taking the piss out of a disabled reporter. He's a classy guy and that's why his supporters love him.

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By *unnyPairCouple over a year ago

Seminole

Only watching to see if Nadler shits himself publicly again, or Nancy’s teeth fall out.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Unfortunately I agree that he'll get away with it, and there's probably a clause about not being able to bring criminal charges against a president that was in office at the time. Fucked but in a bad way

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

I hope the Republican Senators find their conscience and vote to convict.

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By *unnyPairCouple over a year ago

Seminole

Convict him, ok, but also convict about 25 other elected officials who have done as bad or worse. Kacklin Kamala bailing out criminals, some individuals more than once who committed heinous crimes while out on her bail money over the summer.

Where does it stop?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Convict him, ok, but also convict about 25 other elected officials who have done as bad or worse. Kacklin Kamala bailing out criminals, some individuals more than once who committed heinous crimes while out on her bail money over the summer.

Where does it stop?"

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By *inaTitzTV/TS over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

I'd love to see him sent to Alcatraz, but it won't happen

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By *unnyPairCouple over a year ago

Seminole

"I'd love to see him sent to Alcatraz, but it won't happen

That’s in California...I wouldn’t wish visiting there on anybody and or under any circumstances.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'd love to see him sent to Alcatraz, but it won't happen

That’s in California...I wouldn’t wish visiting there on anybody and or under any circumstances."

Lmfao good one.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I hope the Republican Senators find their conscience and vote to convict. "

Most of them don’t have a conscience

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By *ovebjsMan over a year ago

Bristol

Most of the republicans are shit scared of donny and his crazies

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I hope the Republican Senators find their conscience and vote to convict. "

That is not going to happen.

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By *unnyPairCouple over a year ago

Seminole

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By *unnyPairCouple over a year ago

Seminole

"Most of the republicans are shit scared of donny and his crazies "

I don’t think that’s accurate. I think most are scared what will happen if the left gets their way unchecked.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Most of the republicans are shit scared of donny and his crazies

I don’t think that’s accurate. I think most are scared what will happen if the left gets their way unchecked. "

They are definitely scared, Trumpers fanatics will probably try and shoot them.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Most of the republicans are shit scared of donny and his crazies

I don’t think that’s accurate. I think most are scared what will happen if the left gets their way unchecked. "

Alot of the Republican Senators know that a conviction will make things worse. They playing it smart.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Most of the republicans are shit scared of donny and his crazies

I don’t think that’s accurate. I think most are scared what will happen if the left gets their way unchecked. "

They're just afraid of listing votes from the Trump side of the Republican party.

They already said, like last time, that they don't give a fuck about the evidence, they're going to acquit him anyway.

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"I hope the Republican Senators find their conscience and vote to convict. "

Cant see it sadly.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Most of the republicans are shit scared of donny and his crazies

I don’t think that’s accurate. I think most are scared what will happen if the left gets their way unchecked.

They're just afraid of listing votes from the Trump side of the Republican party.

They already said, like last time, that they don't give a fuck about the evidence, they're going to acquit him anyway. "

It's the smart thing to do let that base cool down not keep inciting them.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I find the hilarity of swalwell acting like he has morality.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Most of the republicans are shit scared of donny and his crazies

I don’t think that’s accurate. I think most are scared what will happen if the left gets their way unchecked.

They're just afraid of listing votes from the Trump side of the Republican party.

They already said, like last time, that they don't give a fuck about the evidence, they're going to acquit him anyway.

It's the smart thing to do let that base cool down not keep inciting them. "

So don't convict a guilty man in case his supporters go on another rampage?

Doesn't sound like a civilised society to me.

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By *oggoneMan over a year ago

Derry

"Most of the republicans are shit scared of donny and his crazies

I don’t think that’s accurate. I think most are scared what will happen if the left gets their way unchecked.

They're just afraid of listing votes from the Trump side of the Republican party.

They already said, like last time, that they don't give a fuck about the evidence, they're going to acquit him anyway.

It's the smart thing to do let that base cool down not keep inciting them. "

So Donald Trump shouldn't be held accountable?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Most of the republicans are shit scared of donny and his crazies

I don’t think that’s accurate. I think most are scared what will happen if the left gets their way unchecked.

They're just afraid of listing votes from the Trump side of the Republican party.

They already said, like last time, that they don't give a fuck about the evidence, they're going to acquit him anyway.

It's the smart thing to do let that base cool down not keep inciting them.

So don't convict a guilty man in case his supporters go on another rampage?

Doesn't sound like a civilised society to me. "

Isn't the trial in itself inciting ? It was instant people still pissed so telling here take your medicine we know better does not spell unity. It's going to fall on deaf ears I hear it everyday on local radio it's not good.

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By *ovebjsMan over a year ago

Bristol

Publish his tax returns and his supporters will see what a lier he is

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By *unnyPairCouple over a year ago

Seminole

He wasn’t re-elected, he will not and shouldn’t be supported for public office again. People that want to see him do time I can’t quite understand, I mean, what itch do you have does that scratch? I mean it’s a stretch to consider that he has responsibility for those deaths on January 6th, just like you can’t imprison all of Man city the next time they win something and the fans or followers torch cars in the streets can you?

Just like people say show the “proof” of widespread voter fraud, where is the “proof” that he incited the violence?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Most of the republicans are shit scared of donny and his crazies

I don’t think that’s accurate. I think most are scared what will happen if the left gets their way unchecked.

They're just afraid of listing votes from the Trump side of the Republican party.

They already said, like last time, that they don't give a fuck about the evidence, they're going to acquit him anyway.

It's the smart thing to do let that base cool down not keep inciting them.

So don't convict a guilty man in case his supporters go on another rampage?

Doesn't sound like a civilised society to me.

Doesn't sound like letting him off will create much unity or confidence in the system.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"He wasn’t re-elected, he will not and shouldn’t be supported for public office again. People that want to see him do time I can’t quite understand, I mean, what itch do you have does that scratch? I mean it’s a stretch to consider that he has responsibility for those deaths on January 6th, just like you can’t imprison all of Man city the next time they win something and the fans or followers torch cars in the streets can you?

Just like people say show the “proof” of widespread voter fraud, where is the “proof” that he incited the violence? "

He should be put on trial and they can consider the evidence and judge him innocent or guilty.

Same with the myriad of charges he's facing for fraud, tax dodging, paying off porn stars etc etc.

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By *unnyPairCouple over a year ago

Seminole

Well, none of our systems are really working anymore.

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By *unnyPairCouple over a year ago

Seminole

Just like people say show the “proof” of widespread voter fraud, where is the “proof” that he incited the violence?

He should be put on trial and they can consider the evidence and judge him innocent or guilty.

Same with the myriad of charges he's facing for fraud, tax dodging, paying off porn stars etc etc."

He’s been brought up on charges for all of that?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Just like people say show the “proof” of widespread voter fraud, where is the “proof” that he incited the violence?

He should be put on trial and they can consider the evidence and judge him innocent or guilty.

Same with the myriad of charges he's facing for fraud, tax dodging, paying off porn stars etc etc.

He’s been brought up on charges for all of that?"

Sorry, he's under investigation for all this. Not been charged.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/what-trump-faces-jan-20-2021-n1247722

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By *unnyPairCouple over a year ago

Seminole

I think every American registered citizen, and tax payer is under investigation at some point in their lives. Trump and Hunter are likely in pretty rich company, but due to non disclosure we only hear about the others if it kinda ruins them. Paying off hookers? Well, as the oldest profession I think it’s understood that they are in it for the pay. If you’re dumb enough to be a gazillionaire and think she’ll be happy with the 300 bucks after leaving your 300 foot yacht, then your probably deserving of the ensuing hustle.

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By *unnyPairCouple over a year ago

Seminole

Sorry, you said porn stars and I read hookers.

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By *unnyPairCouple over a year ago

Seminole

But then again, he was either on set with her, paying her as a hooker, or she was just attracted to his orange hog? I don’t know?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Sorry, you said porn stars and I read hookers. "

Local radio going ballistic when swalwell gave his presentation. Everyone is WTF. Good choice to have someone speak about american interests.

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By *oo hotCouple over a year ago

North West

The Impeachment Managers are all delivering compelling testimony.

If Trump’s defence team don’t up their game the Republican Senators will probably never live down the shame of failing to convict in the face of overwhelming evidence.

That may have grave consequences for the rule of Law in America going forwards.

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney

a sizeable chunck of the GOP vote could feel politically homeless if they don't vote to convict. this could hobble the party for as long as the trumpaholics have free rein and keep the dems in power for a long time, which is clearly a good thing

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Most of the republicans are shit scared of donny and his crazies

I don’t think that’s accurate. I think most are scared what will happen if the left gets their way unchecked.

They are definitely scared, Trumpers fanatics will probably try and shoot them. "

Yep. They should be able to vote anonymously.

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney

if there had been less right wing indimidation at the polling booths etc. the turn out and consequently the vote for biden would have been even greater than the landslide it turned out to be.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"if there had been less right wing indimidation at the polling booths etc. the turn out and consequently the vote for biden would have been even greater than the landslide it turned out to be."

The majority of Biden Voters used mail in. Compared to trump supporters who actually went to the polls.

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"if there had been less right wing indimidation at the polling booths etc. the turn out and consequently the vote for biden would have been even greater than the landslide it turned out to be.

The majority of Biden Voters used mail in. Compared to trump supporters who actually went to the polls."

Probably something to do with the deadly pandemic which was going around.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"if there had been less right wing indimidation at the polling booths etc. the turn out and consequently the vote for biden would have been even greater than the landslide it turned out to be.

The majority of Biden Voters used mail in. Compared to trump supporters who actually went to the polls."

58% of Biden voters voted by mail. 32% for Trump.

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2020/11/20/the-voting-experience-in-2020/

Which is interesting.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"if there had been less right wing indimidation at the polling booths etc. the turn out and consequently the vote for biden would have been even greater than the landslide it turned out to be.

The majority of Biden Voters used mail in. Compared to trump supporters who actually went to the polls.

58% of Biden voters voted by mail. 32% for Trump.

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2020/11/20/the-voting-experience-in-2020/

Which is interesting. "

People didn't like the mail in on republican side. They still don't. It's too easy to toss a ballot.

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney

"if there had been less right wing indimidation at the polling booths etc. the turn out and consequently the vote for biden would have been even greater than the landslide it turned out to be.

The majority of Biden Voters used mail in. Compared to trump supporters who actually went to the polls.

Probably something to do with the deadly pandemic which was going around."
that and the gangs of armed republican vigilantes surpressing the black vote

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"if there had been less right wing indimidation at the polling booths etc. the turn out and consequently the vote for biden would have been even greater than the landslide it turned out to be.

The majority of Biden Voters used mail in. Compared to trump supporters who actually went to the polls.

Probably something to do with the deadly pandemic which was going around. that and the gangs of armed republican vigilantes surpressing the black vote"
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What evidence ? You do know there are black militias too.

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By *abioMan over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

I think we can all agree that officer goodman basically saved mitt Romney’s life there.... wow!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I think we can all agree that officer goodman basically saved mitt Romney’s life there.... wow!"

Yes

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By *uck-RogersMan over a year ago

Tarka trail

Out off the kindness of my heart. If I clear the snow of my neighbours path or driveway. Would I be branded a brexiteer or Trump supporter.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Out off the kindness of my heart. If I clear the snow of my neighbours path or driveway. Would I be branded a brexiteer or Trump supporter.

Are brexiteers and Trump supporters known as snow clearers?

I'll be honest. If I saw someone clearing snow from a neighbors drive. I wouldn't assume anything about their views on trump or brexit.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Out off the kindness of my heart. If I clear the snow of my neighbours path or driveway. Would I be branded a brexiteer or Trump supporter.

Are brexiteers and Trump supporters known as snow clearers?

I'll be honest. If I saw someone clearing snow from a neighbors drive. I wouldn't assume anything about their views on trump or brexit. "

I know that statement was weird.Ill take pictures sky people with Biden Harris signs don't shovel anything expecting the city to do everything. It is a observation. They the first one to scream why do I pay taxes on local FB pages. Didn't realize it until now.

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By *hetalkingstoveMan over a year ago

London

"Ill take pictures sky people with Biden Harris signs don't shovel anything expecting the city to do everything."

What?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Ill take pictures sky people with Biden Harris signs don't shovel anything expecting the city to do everything.

What?

What what its not directed twords you. Sky knows a little about me you dont

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By *hetalkingstoveMan over a year ago

London

"Ill take pictures sky people with Biden Harris signs don't shovel anything expecting the city to do everything.

What?

What what its not directed twords you. Sky knows a little about me you dont

I was trying to understand a fairly incomprehensible post but OK.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Ill take pictures sky people with Biden Harris signs don't shovel anything expecting the city to do everything.

What?

What what its not directed twords you. Sky knows a little about me you dont

I was trying to understand a fairly incomprehensible post but OK. "

It's ok didn't expect you to understand I should have responded private. My apologies on your comprehension.

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By *unnyPairCouple over a year ago

Seminole

Just like the first ones pissing and moaning about a stimulus check...they aren’t shoveling snow, or working at all so long as that free shit keeps rolling in.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS over a year ago

Central

I have low expectations of the republicans and can't see enough of them voting to convict him

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By *ust some cock suckerMan over a year ago

Preston

"I hope the Republican Senators find their conscience and vote to convict.

Most of them don’t have a conscience "

I don't think many politicians have in general.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Ill take pictures sky people with Biden Harris signs don't shovel anything expecting the city to do everything.

What?

What what its not directed twords you. Sky knows a little about me you dont

Yes. Sorry that made sense to me.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I have low expectations of the republicans and can't see enough of them voting to convict him "

This is what I think too.

Let's see what happens.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

They have already decided it's unconstitutional so I highly doubt it's even worth the trial.

I honestly can't see the Reps risking the backlash at the ballot boxes.

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By *or Fox SakeCouple over a year ago

Thornaby

"if there had been less right wing indimidation at the polling booths etc. the turn out and consequently the vote for biden would have been even greater than the landslide it turned out to be.

The majority of Biden Voters used mail in. Compared to trump supporters who actually went to the polls.

Probably something to do with the deadly pandemic which was going around."

Can't you like, inject bleach for that?

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By *mooth Operator 07Man over a year ago

in the deep mist of the valleys

"I think we can all agree that officer goodman basically saved mitt Romney’s life there.... wow!"

Never mind the other politicians who in other closed rooms. Officer Goodman led and direct the mob/terrorists to different areas of Capitol Hill, saving a lot of lives.

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney

the evidence for trump inciting the right wing terrorist insurrectionists to violently storm the capitol is dozens of arrested right wing terrorist insurrectionists who violently stormed the capitol giving statements to investigators stating that trump incited them to do it. it's quite simple to understand for anyone with even a modicum of intelligence.

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By *oo hotCouple over a year ago

North West

"They have already decided it's unconstitutional so I highly doubt it's even worth the trial.

I honestly can't see the Reps risking the backlash at the ballot boxes."

This Senate trial is being played out for public opinion. It is already demonstrating what ALL normal thinking people know - Donald Trump was the inciter of the mob violence on January 06th. When Republican Senators ignore facts and ignore overwhelming evidence because they think they will be saving their seat... they are forgetting that the overwhelming majority of Americans do believe in law and order.

As an aside, how can hundreds of currently jailed people ALL say that they were following their CiC orders? Is it right that they go to jail but the CiC retains his billionaire lifestyle? How will these people and thousands of others take to the very public disownment by Trump?

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By *illi3736Woman over a year ago

Glasgow

History will not be kind to Trump and will no doubt be equally harsh to the republicans who support him at this time. The party of law and order is now a basket case coalition of racists militia groups and conspiracy theorists. The more moderate senators need to impeach to reclaim the party from the Trump base. It is that or dwindle into a protest party

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney

the right wing vote is on the edge of being split. a divided GOP and resulting decades of democrat dominance will benefit the republic immeasurably. ironically it really would make america great again.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Jesus christ, this thread is full of the reason why trump got elected in the first place, racist, bigot, violent, dumb. It's like noone anti trump realises how diverse his voters actually are, like everyone refuses to acknowledge that he was and is supported by millions that felt and feel like they had been left behind by both parties, noone to represent them. Its fucking ridiculous that they were automatically accused of all of those things as a whole, I mean who in their right mind was going to be feeling discarded and disenfranchised by the system and then vote for hillary??? She is the system that forgot about them, and so is Biden. They are now back to having noone they feel is even partially representing them, that's not healthy. The last thing anyone should want is millions of people scrabbling for anyone that will speak for them, because they will make their own and it won't matter if they are worse than trump because at least they'll have somebody that they feel represents them at least in part.

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By *abioMan over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"Jesus christ, this thread is full of the reason why trump got elected in the first place, racist, bigot, violent, dumb. It's like noone anti trump realises how diverse his voters actually are, like everyone refuses to acknowledge that he was and is supported by millions that felt and feel like they had been left behind by both parties, noone to represent them. Its fucking ridiculous that they were automatically accused of all of those things as a whole, I mean who in their right mind was going to be feeling discarded and disenfranchised by the system and then vote for hillary??? She is the system that forgot about them, and so is Biden. They are now back to having noone they feel is even partially representing them, that's not healthy. The last thing anyone should want is millions of people scrabbling for anyone that will speak for them, because they will make their own and it won't matter if they are worse than trump because at least they'll have somebody that they feel represents them at least in part. "

Thank you for the diatribe... still running against Hillary I see!

He had 4 yrs to make his mark... watch his defense team tomorrow throw his maga support under the bus to save his skin!

Why don’t you just own the right wing coup attempt...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

You raise an interesting point.

Why do you think someone like Trump who openly despised ordinary people, tried to take away their healthcare, gave tax breaks to the rich and shifted more of the burden onto poor people, was so appealing to so many poor people?

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney

remarkable that the only thing achieved in those 4 years was 5 miles of rickety fence and the creation of a new third world country that is luckily being dragged back into the 21st century by the new president

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By *ovebjsMan over a year ago

Bristol

When he was giving his speech about marching to the capital building did he not say we and that he would be right there with them ?

And then he threw them under the bus

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

You raise an interesting point.

I don't know. Its hard to judge being from the UK what happened in their everyday lives that either swayed them to or from him in the end, obviously a large number felt he failed them because ultimately he lost. But the answer to trump for those that didn't lose faith in him isn't a return to the status quo, which is what seems to have happened now Biden is in the oval. In this last election again just like in the first one there is going to be a huge number of people who voted trump (or even didn't vote for him or Biden) simply because they couldn't see how Biden represented them. Just like they couldn't see how Hillary represented them.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Thank you for the diatribe... still running against Hillary I see!

He had 4 yrs to make his mark... watch his defense team tomorrow throw his maga support under the bus to save his skin!

Why don’t you just own the right wing coup attempt... "

Is there anything in what I actually said that you'd like to agree or disagree with? You seem to have taken it as some sort of endorsement for him?

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney

"When he was giving his speech about marching to the capital building did he not say we and that he would be right there with them ?

And then he threw them under the bus

it appears that immediately after telling the right wing terrorist insurrectionists that he would walk at the front of the march to attack the capitol, trump climbed off the hustings into a waiting limousine and drove back to the whitehouse, where he proceeded to watch the insurrection he ordered unfold on television news from the comfort of his living room.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

You raise an interesting point.

I agree that Biden doesn't represent the people. And is the status quo.

Trump activity worked to make poor people less well off. Destroy the environment. Remove their healthcare etc. Just seems like the media have such a huge role to play. Just like here with brexit.

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By *uliaChrisCouple over a year ago

westerham

It's pretty clear that impeachment in recent years is always going to be seen as a political process, the loser and their supporters will always say it was a vote on party lines.

Whole thing seems pointless when there's clearly allegations of lots of other federal crimes that can be investigated against him that could lead to actual jail time.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

You raise an interesting point.

Under Obama administration 0 raises because of the cost of healthcare to employer and to the employee. Under Trump administration I have received 4 raises passed down because of tax cuts. Now gas up heating oil up cost of living rising. In the middle of a pandemic that shut everything down.

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney

the stream of videos showing well armed and equiped violent right wing terrorist insurrectionists breaking into the capitol is damning evidence. as is the videos of those conspiring to murder the vice president or ANY OTHER politician that they could get their hands on.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"the stream of videos showing well armed and equiped violent right wing terrorist insurrectionists breaking into the capitol is damning evidence. as is the videos of those conspiring to murder the vice president or ANY OTHER politician that they could get their hands on."

They are getting prosecuted.

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney

the evidence those same individuals have given, vehemently confirming that trump instructed them to travel to DC and attack the capitoland the politicians therein.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"the evidence those same individuals have given, vehemently confirming that trump instructed them to travel to DC and attack the capitoland the politicians therein. "

It is not going to hold up. If we convicted politicians for firey speech some of the trial managers are just as guilty. It is bad what happened but the first amendment that protects everyone must be upheld. A conviction will set precedent that no one can have a voice. That is Pandora box we do not need to open.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Another interesting point is the chief justice is supposed to oversee the impeachment process. According to the law.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Another interesting point is the chief justice is supposed to oversee the impeachment process. According to the law."

Because it is unconstitutional apparently.

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney

Diana DeGette has shown explicit and irrefutable evidence of Trump ordering the right wing terrorist insurrectionists to violently attack the capitol and cause harm to those people therein.

check mate

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By *ykmwyldTV/TS over a year ago

Belpre

Trump is obviously guilty as anyone with any intelligence can see !

But, I don't believe the republicans in the Senate will convict trump because they don't care about seeing trump face any kind of justice for the awful things he's done as a pretend president, because their lips have been attached to trumps ass for four years.

Those republican Senators, who are actually a real joke as Senators anyway, have no balls what so ever, they are weak minded, weak willed fools, as they have constantly shown for four

years.

They have ruined the dignity of the republican party, by being foolish enough to follow the mindless ramblings of a mental case pretending

to be a president.

Even though those gutless fools will let trump off, trumps political career is over, he will never be able to be a pretend president ever again.

So let the civilian courts deal with the biggest loser of any US presidency. Hopefully they will make him face some measure of acceptable justice for his crimes.

This year alone will cost trump at least 40 to 50 million in lost revenue, that'll hurt him where it

counts lol, and it's just the beginning ; ) .

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By *abioMan over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

Loved the chaplin’s prayer to start...

All good black means also start off with a prayer with a side of shade attached.... thanksgiving and Christmas would not be the same without it!!!

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By *abioMan over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"Diana DeGette has shown explicit and irrefutable evidence of Trump ordering the right wing terrorist insurrectionists to violently attack the capitol and cause harm to those people therein.

check mate "

Don’t worry.... MAGA will never believe it! That’s until tomorrow when the trump defence is going to run them all over in the big old bus to save his own skin

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By *abioMan over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

If anyone isn’t aware of why they used the word “mulligan”... its in reference to an interview the other Utah republican senator mike lee gave over the weekend suggesting that trump should get a mulligan over what happened....

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney

a mulligan is a second chance in sport ... most notably in the game of golf, of which trump spent a total of over a year playing during the previous four

#parttimepresident

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Listening to local radio too there is no change to the trial presentation. Most want aquittal.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Toomy is done in 2022 so is Casey.

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By *ykmwyldTV/TS over a year ago

Belpre

Trump should get a Hangmans Noose put around his neck for the factual crimes he's committed against the people of the United States. He is an actual traitor by trying to overthrow a legitament fair election to remain in power. That's the only legacy that will count in the historical records that are being compiled by the congressional historians.

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"Diana DeGette has shown explicit and irrefutable evidence of Trump ordering the right wing terrorist insurrectionists to violently attack the capitol and cause harm to those people therein.

check mate "

Sure I remember a few people on here arguing that wasmt the case yesterday.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Trump should get a Hangmans Noose put around his neck for the factual crimes he's committed against the people of the United States. He is an actual traitor by trying to overthrow a legitament fair election to remain in power. That's the only legacy that will count in the historical records that are being compiled by the congressional historians. "

It will she interesting to see what comes out about Russia in years to come. There are reports that the KGB have been grooming him for years.

Also if more comes about about him asking other countries to interfere with US elections. Like he did with Ukraine.

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

It will she interesting to see what comes out about Russia in years to come. There are reports that the KGB have been grooming him for years.

Also if more comes about about him asking other countries to interfere with US elections. Like he did with Ukraine. "

There are rumours they have 'incriminating'stuff on him

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By *abioMan over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"Toomy is done in 2022 so is Casey."

Toomy said he wasn’t going to run again in 2022 months ago... and the open seat is going to be the no.1 pick up target for the democrats

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By *oo hotCouple over a year ago

North West

These millions who don’t feel represented - why don’t they feel represented?

Trump did not do anything for anyone other than normalise hatred, bigotry and division. The poor didn’t get richer did they? No, they didn’t but for sure bigots, racists and supremacists felt that they could at last crawl out from under their rocks.

Perhaps people like that ought to accept that their ideals should actually stay under the rock.

I really am interested to know about the types of people who could only feel represented by Donald Trump. What disenfranchises them from normal, regular Politics (Republican or Democrat)?

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney

not convicting would be a party political decision and would set a terrible precedent. right wingers need to be careful what they wish for lest it be used against them in the future.

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By *oggoneMan over a year ago

Derry

"Toomy is done in 2022 so is Casey.

Toomy said he wasn’t going to run again in 2022 months ago... and the open seat is going to be the no.1 pick up target for the democrats"

Conor Lamb, John Fetterman and Chrissy_Houlahan are the most likely democratic candidates. Personally I think Lamb and Houlahan should stay where they are.

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By *ykmwyldTV/TS over a year ago

Belpre

The republicans have been slowly cutting their own throats for four years, just to be worthy to worship with their lips at the anus of trump the traitor.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The republicans have been slowly cutting their own throats for four years, just to be worthy to worship with their lips at the anus of trump the traitor. "

Yet they still here 70 million

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By *ackal1Couple over a year ago

Manchester

Just being pragmatic.

If the Republicans don’t vote to impeach Trump and end his political ambition along with that of his family, they risk him dividing the Republican vote. This would see them be out of power for a long time.

Trump still has a huge following and the moderate Republicans need to shut him down as an option.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Just being pragmatic.

Trump still has a huge following and the moderate Republicans need to shut him down as an option. "

But if they vote against trump and he is convicted. Then the republicans could lose a large portion of his voters.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The republicans have been slowly cutting their own throats for four years, just to be worthy to worship with their lips at the anus of trump the traitor.

Yet they still here 70 million"

You've got your ear to the ground. What do you think is going to happen?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Just being pragmatic.

Trump still has a huge following and the moderate Republicans need to shut him down as an option.

But if they vote against trump and he is convicted. Then the republicans could lose a large portion of his voters."

Or risk a separate party.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Just being pragmatic.

Trump still has a huge following and the moderate Republicans need to shut him down as an option.

But if they vote against trump and he is convicted. Then the republicans could lose a large portion of his voters.

Or risk a separate party."

Yeah exactly. His son could create a new party right?

I think that's their motivation for acquitting him.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Just being pragmatic.

Trump still has a huge following and the moderate Republicans need to shut him down as an option.

But if they vote against trump and he is convicted. Then the republicans could lose a large portion of his voters.

Or risk a separate party.

Yeah exactly. His son could create a new party right?

I think that's their motivation for acquitting him."

We need other parties. They have been too dominant.The problem is money as usual.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Just being pragmatic.

Trump still has a huge following and the moderate Republicans need to shut him down as an option.

But if they vote against trump and he is convicted. Then the republicans could lose a large portion of his voters.

Or risk a separate party.

Yeah exactly. His son could create a new party right?

I think that's their motivation for acquitting him.

We need other parties. They have been too dominant.The problem is money as usual."

Absolutely. I mean, it's a similar story here.

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By *ackal1Couple over a year ago

Manchester

"Just being pragmatic.

Trump still has a huge following and the moderate Republicans need to shut him down as an option.

But if they vote against trump and he is convicted. Then the republicans could lose a large portion of his voters.

Or risk a separate party.

Yeah exactly. His son could create a new party right?

I think that's their motivation for acquitting him."

I think his family will go down with him by association and so no credible new party. I also think Republicans Americans won’t vote Democrat easily so will stick with the existing Republicans establishment.

Once he’s impeached he’s lost his threat. They can destroy his reputation so death by a thousand cuts slowly but surely his name will be mud.

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By *ackal1Couple over a year ago

Manchester

"Just being pragmatic.

Trump still has a huge following and the moderate Republicans need to shut him down as an option.

But if they vote against trump and he is convicted. Then the republicans could lose a large portion of his voters.

Or risk a separate party.

Yeah exactly. His son could create a new party right?

I think that's their motivation for acquitting him.

We need other parties. They have been too dominant.The problem is money as usual.

Absolutely. I mean, it's a similar story here. "

Agree money and the likes of Murdoch decide who’s going to be in charge. It’s never a people’s vote as they don’t have a clue who’s telling the truth.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Just being pragmatic.

Trump still has a huge following and the moderate Republicans need to shut him down as an option.

But if they vote against trump and he is convicted. Then the republicans could lose a large portion of his voters.

Or risk a separate party.

Yeah exactly. His son could create a new party right?

I think that's their motivation for acquitting him.

Once he’s impeached he’s lost his threat. They can destroy his reputation so death by a thousand cuts slowly but surely his name will be mud.

I hope you're right. Let's see.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Just being pragmatic.

Trump still has a huge following and the moderate Republicans need to shut him down as an option.

But if they vote against trump and he is convicted. Then the republicans could lose a large portion of his voters.

Or risk a separate party.

Yeah exactly. His son could create a new party right?

I think that's their motivation for acquitting him.

We need other parties. They have been too dominant.The problem is money as usual.

Absolutely. I mean, it's a similar story here.

Agree money and the likes of Murdoch decide who’s going to be in charge. It’s never a people’s vote as they don’t have a clue who’s telling the truth. "

We vote independent it's the closest to self judgement. Yes we voted for Trump on the policies not the man. People so incenced as to the character or what society tells them to do. Yes there was a insurrection tragic as it was but you can see the need for something different. Trump was not it but it opens a different train of thought .

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By *abioMan over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

If anyone was wondering how long it would take for the words witch hunt to be used in trumps defence.... 7 seconds.....

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By *oggoneMan over a year ago

Derry

"If anyone was wondering how long it would take for the words witch hunt to be used in trumps defence.... 7 seconds....."

A little longer for Clintons, Russia, Antifa.....but here we are.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"If anyone was wondering how long it would take for the words witch hunt to be used in trumps defence.... 7 seconds....."

You should have played Trump bullshit bingo.

You would have won.

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By *oggoneMan over a year ago

Derry

"Constitutional cancel culture" Trumps defence is attack, attack attack.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

""Constitutional cancel culture" Trumps defence is attack, attack attack."

Are they arguing that conviction of a guilty criminal is a form of cancelling the criminal?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Alot of politicians on the other side had the same rehtoric.

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By *oggoneMan over a year ago

Derry

"Alot of politicians on the other side had the same rehtoric."

With the intent of overturning an election through violence and threats to life?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Alot of politicians on the other side had the same rehtoric.

With the intent of overturning an election through violence and threats to life?"

There was no riots in DC the day he was inaugurated ? 2017 ? I don't remember glitter and rainbows. I remember violence caused by Democrats refusing the election results.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Alot of politicians on the other side had the same rehtoric.

With the intent of overturning an election through violence and threats to life?

There was no riots in DC the day he was inaugurated ? 2017 ? I don't remember glitter and rainbows. I remember violence caused by Democrats refusing the election results."

Did the democrats say the election was fraudulent?

I genuinely don't remember and couldn't find anything on Google.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Alot of politicians on the other side had the same rehtoric.

With the intent of overturning an election through violence and threats to life?

There was no riots in DC the day he was inaugurated ? 2017 ? I don't remember glitter and rainbows. I remember violence caused by Democrats refusing the election results.

Did the democrats say the election was fraudulent?

I genuinely don't remember and couldn't find anything on Google. "

Yes attempted to turn over the EC votes.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/democrats-electoral-college-faithless-trump-231731

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By *oggoneMan over a year ago

Derry

"Alot of politicians on the other side had the same rehtoric.

With the intent of overturning an election through violence and threats to life?

There was no riots in DC the day he was inaugurated ? 2017 ? I don't remember glitter and rainbows. I remember violence caused by Democrats refusing the election results."

Ok first totally irrelevant, violence wasn't caused by democrats in Jan 2017. If you believe that, you're lying to yourself.

And anyway sending an armed mob to kill politicans was my point, did you miss that part?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Alot of politicians on the other side had the same rehtoric.

With the intent of overturning an election through violence and threats to life?

There was no riots in DC the day he was inaugurated ? 2017 ? I don't remember glitter and rainbows. I remember violence caused by Democrats refusing the election results.

Ok first totally irrelevant, violence wasn't caused by democrats in Jan 2017. If you believe that, you're lying to yourself.

And anyway sending an armed mob to kill politicans was my point, did you miss that part? "

They where trump supporters celebrating then ? That armed mob will get what is comming to them. They were a little more organized in their attempt and it failed didn't it.

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By *oggoneMan over a year ago

Derry

"Alot of politicians on the other side had the same rehtoric.

With the intent of overturning an election through violence and threats to life?

There was no riots in DC the day he was inaugurated ? 2017 ? I don't remember glitter and rainbows. I remember violence caused by Democrats refusing the election results.

Ok first totally irrelevant, violence wasn't caused by democrats in Jan 2017. If you believe that, you're lying to yourself.

And anyway sending an armed mob to kill politicans was my point, did you miss that part?

They where trump supporters celebrating then ? That armed mob will get what is comming to them. They were a little more organized in their attempt and it failed didn't it."

That armed mob was there because of one man, the same man that incited them and directed them to the capitol and the same man that eventually called them off. The fact they were unsuccessful is again irrelevant. Do you get to go home if you only attempt a crime? You only stand trial if successful in carrying out a crime?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Alot of politicians on the other side had the same rehtoric.

With the intent of overturning an election through violence and threats to life?

There was no riots in DC the day he was inaugurated ? 2017 ? I don't remember glitter and rainbows. I remember violence caused by Democrats refusing the election results.

Ok first totally irrelevant, violence wasn't caused by democrats in Jan 2017. If you believe that, you're lying to yourself.

And anyway sending an armed mob to kill politicans was my point, did you miss that part?

They where trump supporters celebrating then ? That armed mob will get what is comming to them. They were a little more organized in their attempt and it failed didn't it.

And yet that crime will be voted on in a democratic way. Kind of like 12 jurors. Judged by your peers. If I was found not guilty I get to go home.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

So if there is a aquittal any riot that comes out of this is falls on the Democrats shoulders.

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By *oggoneMan over a year ago

Derry

"So if there is a aquittal any riot that comes out of this is falls on the Democrats shoulders."

44 republicans have already voted this impeachment process is unconstitutional, the outcome was never under question.

The purpose of this impeachment is to get the republicans to own the insurrection. They're going to get the benghazi special for the next two years.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So if there is a aquittal any riot that comes out of this is falls on the Democrats shoulders.

44 republicans have already voted this impeachment process is unconstitutional, the outcome was never under question.

The purpose of this impeachment is to get the republicans to own the insurrection. They're going to get the benghazi special for the next two years. "

Just like the Democrats get to own the riots I am sure will happen.

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By *abioMan over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"Alot of politicians on the other side had the same rehtoric.

With the intent of overturning an election through violence and threats to life?

There was no riots in DC the day he was inaugurated ? 2017 ? I don't remember glitter and rainbows. I remember violence caused by Democrats refusing the election results."

I do remember the day after the inauguration they had the “woman’s march” on Washington (after all the allegations of sexual assault and defamatory comments he had made about women) it drew about 4 times his crowd did... and i remember him being really pissed about it.....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna709946#aoh=16131718136293&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s

Riots are riots with the goal of getting your point across thru violent acts. We can debate this all day it is not going to change that fact. Why should 1 side just be held responsible when both are just as guilty. Your not going to have unity unless these facts are addressed.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Trump is such a pathetic loser,

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna709946#aoh=16131718136293&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna709946#aoh=16131718136293&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s

Trump is still a pathetic loser

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna709946#aoh=16131718136293&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s

1 side is the Trump rioters. And the other side is everyone else who didn't riot that day.

Other situations are other situations and should be dealt with appropriately.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna709946#aoh=16131718136293&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s

1 side is the Trump rioters. And the other side is everyone else who didn't riot that day.

Other situations are other situations and should be dealt with appropriately."

That just it it not being delt with. So if there is a aquittal shall law enforcement and national guard deal with it or do we just let it go because of the trump verdict. Insanity.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna709946#aoh=16131718136293&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s

1 side is the Trump rioters. And the other side is everyone else who didn't riot that day.

Other situations are other situations and should be dealt with appropriately.

That just it it not being delt with. So if there is a aquittal shall law enforcement and national guard deal with it or do we just let it go because of the trump verdict. Insanity."

I don't know the details. But people who need to be investigated, should be.

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By *untwolancashireCouple over a year ago

Preston

Some good points, but I think will get lost in the thread x

I’ve never understood this impeachment thing in the US Bill Clinton got acquitted when guilt was shown, so is it an effective way to get justice? Has any US president been impeached? Yes Nixon resigned when president, but this time Trump is already out of his presidential term, even if found guilty what would the punishment be?

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

Some good points, but I think will get lost in the thread x

I think it means he cant stand for political office again and he will lose all the benefits,security etc

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By *ovebjsMan over a year ago

Bristol

"https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna709946#aoh=16131718136293&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s

I'm gussing that if they had been BLM protesters that there still would have been no armed responce to an attack on you're capital building then ?

Any other time the army would have been deployed right away by thier commander in chief! after all they were only down the road fully locked and loaded

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney

the rights attemptes at false equivalence has divided the nation. they clearly seek to instill permanent disunity in the republic. the fact still remains that the 6th january was not a riot. it was an armed insurrection intent on murdering the legislature of both houses with the aim of installing an unelected right wing dictator. those of the vocal minority who are still defending the violent armed coup d'etat are deliberately sowing dis-harmony in order to force the silent majority into a stalinist state. it's as simple as that.

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By *abioMan over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"Anyone watching any of the Trump Impeachment trial?"

Well it all exploded after questions last night.....

The trump team calling tubberville a liar over the pence call.... mike lees office confirm

The trump McCarthy phone call when trump explodes and refuses to call in the national guard...

Sources close to pence calling trumps team liars over trump not knowing pence was in danger.....

I think where there would have been no witness’s before... i think you have to call them now... McCarthy and tubberville at least..

I think the chances of trump being convicted went from “no chance” to “hmmm.... maybe!”

Also...... the trump defenders seem to have gone awfully quiet over the last 8 hrs..... nervous possibly?

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By *losguygl3Man over a year ago

Gloucester

If it is the case that 'they' have been left behind by the parties then 'they' need to catch up. Hankering after how it 'used' to be is stupid. That's life. Keep up. Adapt. Move on. Society constantly progresses. Digging in like some throw back reactionary just makes you look idiotic.

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By *wisted999Man over a year ago

North Bucks

When’s this pantomime conclude?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"When’s this pantomime conclude? "

They're resuming to acquit him at 10am local time.

So later today our time.

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By *oggoneMan over a year ago

Derry

"Anyone watching any of the Trump Impeachment trial?

Well it all exploded after questions last night.....

The trump team calling tubberville a liar over the pence call.... mike lees office confirm

The trump McCarthy phone call when trump explodes and refuses to call in the national guard...

Sources close to pence calling trumps team liars over trump not knowing pence was in danger.....

I think where there would have been no witness’s before... i think you have to call them now... McCarthy and tubberville at least..

I think the chances of trump being convicted went from “no chance” to “hmmm.... maybe!”

Also...... the trump defenders seem to have gone awfully quiet over the last 8 hrs..... nervous possibly?"

I don't think the needle had moved that much. Trump knowing and increasing the danger to Pence might concern the GOP but they're too scared to convict. Even if Trump gave evidence saying he summoned and incited the insurrection, the Republicans would not convict. They will attack each other first but the inciter in chief, which is odd. Is it just the fear of being primaried that is keeping them in line.

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By *wisted999Man over a year ago

North Bucks

"When’s this pantomime conclude?

They're resuming to acquit him at 10am local time.

So later today our time. "

Ok. Finally might see the back of all this bollocks then for four years at least.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"When’s this pantomime conclude?

They're resuming to acquit him at 10am local time.

So later today our time.

Ok. Finally might see the back of all this bollocks then for four years at least. "

Hopefully he stays out of the news. People who want to know whatever bollocks he's spouting can follow him on Stormfront etc.

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney

"Finally might see the back of all this bollocks then for four years at least. "

mid-term primary elections

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Anyone watching any of the Trump Impeachment trial?

Well it all exploded after questions last night.....

The trump team calling tubberville a liar over the pence call.... mike lees office confirm

The trump McCarthy phone call when trump explodes and refuses to call in the national guard...

Sources close to pence calling trumps team liars over trump not knowing pence was in danger.....

I think where there would have been no witness’s before... i think you have to call them now... McCarthy and tubberville at least..

I think the chances of trump being convicted went from “no chance” to “hmmm.... maybe!”

Also...... the trump defenders seem to have gone awfully quiet over the last 8 hrs..... nervous possibly?

Or convict which I can see as a good point and take down anyone that gave a firey speech that resulted in violence. That is alot of cleaning up. I leaning for this scenario. Yes it makes them look bad at first but the precedent was set for conviction because of speech. They can according to precedent set by this do so. Which endgame to pick.

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney

although the case to convict is absolutely conclusive the republicans will clearly take the usual short-termist right wing action and vote against conviction. this outcome will clearly have the benefit of spltting the republican vote for at least a generation allowing the democrats ample time to mend the country from the damage caused by the reagan, bush sr, bush jnr, trump administrative disasters.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"although the case to convict is absolutely conclusive the republicans will clearly take the usual short-termist right wing action and vote against conviction. this outcome will clearly have the benefit of spltting the republican vote for at least a generation allowing the democrats ample time to mend the country from the damage caused by the reagan, bush sr, bush jnr, trump administrative disasters."

All for conviction people calling their senators for it. Trump can go but the "drain swamp" policy he ran is still alive. I hearing it on local radio I guess we wait and see. Everybody was called out from the presentations on both sides of the isle.

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By *abioMan over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"Anyone watching any of the Trump Impeachment trial?

Well it all exploded after questions last night.....

The trump team calling tubberville a liar over the pence call.... mike lees office confirm

The trump McCarthy phone call when trump explodes and refuses to call in the national guard...

Sources close to pence calling trumps team liars over trump not knowing pence was in danger.....

I think where there would have been no witness’s before... i think you have to call them now... McCarthy and tubberville at least..

I think the chances of trump being convicted went from “no chance” to “hmmm.... maybe!”

Also...... the trump defenders seem to have gone awfully quiet over the last 8 hrs..... nervous possibly?

Where they could have argued about the “free speech” element before the riot last night... his disregard and inaction during and after may give republican senators the off ramp to convict him....

It could be looked at as deliberate dereliction of duty.... I don’t think you can now argue that!

It’s a bit like an arsonist giving someone a match.... admiring the fire and not putting it out, then wanting the credit when he finally calls 911 to get them to put it out....

Or as a police friend says... you don’t get to ride with the cops and root for the robbers!!!

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney

justice scalia was a friend of yours?