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"British supermarkets that have stores in Europe are now facing supply problems because of post-Brexit rules on exports to the EU. This is impacting fresh produce at 20 Marks and Spencer stores in France, Morrison's in Gibraltar, and with a chain of UK supermarkets in Belgium is now on the verge of closure having had no deliveries since December. You just couldn’t make this stuff up....." But we're still winning, right? | |||
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"British supermarkets that have stores in Europe are now facing supply problems because of post-Brexit rules on exports to the EU. This is impacting fresh produce at 20 Marks and Spencer stores in France, Morrison's in Gibraltar, and with a chain of UK supermarkets in Belgium is now on the verge of closure having had no deliveries since December. You just couldn’t make this stuff up..... But we're still winning, right?" 20 stores shut, wow. Meanwhile Brussels tax concessions to amazon and apple result in 20,000 physical stores shutting and you make no criticism. Laughable. | |||
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"British supermarkets that have stores in Europe are now facing supply problems because of post-Brexit rules on exports to the EU. This is impacting fresh produce at 20 Marks and Spencer stores in France, Morrison's in Gibraltar, and with a chain of UK supermarkets in Belgium is now on the verge of closure having had no deliveries since December. You just couldn’t make this stuff up..... But we're still winning, right? 20 stores shut, wow. Meanwhile Brussels tax concessions to amazon and apple result in 20,000 physical stores shutting and you make no criticism. Laughable. " Let’s not worry about the damage Brexit is causing to numerous UK export business and retailers in the EU. Instead it’s now the fault of the EU for the invention of the internet and the inevitable growth of internet shopping with the failure of some traditional retailers to adapt to this change. | |||
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"British supermarkets that have stores in Europe are now facing supply problems because of post-Brexit rules on exports to the EU. This is impacting fresh produce at 20 Marks and Spencer stores in France, Morrison's in Gibraltar, and with a chain of UK supermarkets in Belgium is now on the verge of closure having had no deliveries since December. You just couldn’t make this stuff up..... But we're still winning, right? 20 stores shut, wow. Meanwhile Brussels tax concessions to amazon and apple result in 20,000 physical stores shutting and you make no criticism. Laughable. Let’s not worry about the damage Brexit is causing to numerous UK export business and retailers in the EU. Instead it’s now the fault of the EU for the invention of the internet and the inevitable growth of internet shopping with the failure of some traditional retailers to adapt to this change." It's the fault of Brussels to allow all sales to be booked through Luxembourg and Ireland, yes. And then fail to address pan European tax inequalities between physical shop space and online. Still, give them twenty years and they might catch up. | |||
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"British supermarkets that have stores in Europe are now facing supply problems because of post-Brexit rules on exports to the EU. This is impacting fresh produce at 20 Marks and Spencer stores in France, Morrison's in Gibraltar, and with a chain of UK supermarkets in Belgium is now on the verge of closure having had no deliveries since December. You just couldn’t make this stuff up..... But we're still winning, right? 20 stores shut, wow. Meanwhile Brussels tax concessions to amazon and apple result in 20,000 physical stores shutting and you make no criticism. Laughable. Let’s not worry about the damage Brexit is causing to numerous UK export business and retailers in the EU. Instead it’s now the fault of the EU for the invention of the internet and the inevitable growth of internet shopping with the failure of some traditional retailers to adapt to this change. It's the fault of Brussels to allow all sales to be booked through Luxembourg and Ireland, yes. And then fail to address pan European tax inequalities between physical shop space and online. Still, give them twenty years and they might catch up. " As I am sure you are aware, the EU wanted to stop money created in 1 country being hidden in other countries for tax reasons.This would have directly taken on the likes of Amazon et al. The rich in the UK fearing their tax havens in the Caymen islands etc were going to be walloped, threw cash into the Brexit campaign. But hey, you get to blame the EU so you are happy, poorer, but happy. | |||
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"British supermarkets that have stores in Europe are now facing supply problems because of post-Brexit rules on exports to the EU. This is impacting fresh produce at 20 Marks and Spencer stores in France, Morrison's in Gibraltar, and with a chain of UK supermarkets in Belgium is now on the verge of closure having had no deliveries since December. You just couldn’t make this stuff up..... But we're still winning, right? 20 stores shut, wow. Meanwhile Brussels tax concessions to amazon and apple result in 20,000 physical stores shutting and you make no criticism. Laughable. Let’s not worry about the damage Brexit is causing to numerous UK export business and retailers in the EU. Instead it’s now the fault of the EU for the invention of the internet and the inevitable growth of internet shopping with the failure of some traditional retailers to adapt to this change. It's the fault of Brussels to allow all sales to be booked through Luxembourg and Ireland, yes. And then fail to address pan European tax inequalities between physical shop space and online. Still, give them twenty years and they might catch up. " But using Jersey as an offshore tax haven for online retail is ok as it’s British Crown Dependency.... | |||
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"British supermarkets that have stores in Europe are now facing supply problems because of post-Brexit rules on exports to the EU. This is impacting fresh produce at 20 Marks and Spencer stores in France, Morrison's in Gibraltar, and with a chain of UK supermarkets in Belgium is now on the verge of closure having had no deliveries since December. You just couldn’t make this stuff up..... But we're still winning, right? 20 stores shut, wow. Meanwhile Brussels tax concessions to amazon and apple result in 20,000 physical stores shutting and you make no criticism. Laughable. Let’s not worry about the damage Brexit is causing to numerous UK export business and retailers in the EU. Instead it’s now the fault of the EU for the invention of the internet and the inevitable growth of internet shopping with the failure of some traditional retailers to adapt to this change. It's the fault of Brussels to allow all sales to be booked through Luxembourg and Ireland, yes. And then fail to address pan European tax inequalities between physical shop space and online. Still, give them twenty years and they might catch up. As I am sure you are aware, the EU wanted to stop money created in 1 country being hidden in other countries for tax reasons.This would have directly taken on the likes of Amazon et al. The rich in the UK fearing their tax havens in the Caymen islands etc were going to be walloped, threw cash into the Brexit campaign. But hey, you get to blame the EU so you are happy, poorer, but happy." Ah I see... So now we've brexited, we can expect Brussels to crack on with this grand equitable tax scheme? Be sure to keep us updated how that goes. Seems to have got off to a slow start so far. | |||
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"We should play brexit bingo where we get cards with the list things leavers blame for all the problems caused by brexit." It's not a bad idea but I think the rules are wrong. Remainers blame everything on Brexit and Leavers offer alternative reasons. | |||
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"British supermarkets that have stores in Europe are now facing supply problems because of post-Brexit rules on exports to the EU. This is impacting fresh produce at 20 Marks and Spencer stores in France, Morrison's in Gibraltar, and with a chain of UK supermarkets in Belgium is now on the verge of closure having had no deliveries since December. You just couldn’t make this stuff up....." Unless it's British specialities surely Marks and Spencer could stock up their fresh produce in France or Spain itself. | |||
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"British supermarkets that have stores in Europe are now facing supply problems because of post-Brexit rules on exports to the EU. This is impacting fresh produce at 20 Marks and Spencer stores in France, Morrison's in Gibraltar, and with a chain of UK supermarkets in Belgium is now on the verge of closure having had no deliveries since December. You just couldn’t make this stuff up..... But we're still winning, right? 20 stores shut, wow. Meanwhile Brussels tax concessions to amazon and apple result in 20,000 physical stores shutting and you make no criticism. Laughable. Let’s not worry about the damage Brexit is causing to numerous UK export business and retailers in the EU. Instead it’s now the fault of the EU for the invention of the internet and the inevitable growth of internet shopping with the failure of some traditional retailers to adapt to this change. It's the fault of Brussels to allow all sales to be booked through Luxembourg and Ireland, yes. And then fail to address pan European tax inequalities between physical shop space and online. Still, give them twenty years and they might catch up. As I am sure you are aware, the EU wanted to stop money created in 1 country being hidden in other countries for tax reasons.This would have directly taken on the likes of Amazon et al. The rich in the UK fearing their tax havens in the Caymen islands etc were going to be walloped, threw cash into the Brexit campaign. But hey, you get to blame the EU so you are happy, poorer, but happy. Ah I see... So now we've brexited, we can expect Brussels to crack on with this grand equitable tax scheme? Be sure to keep us updated how that goes. Seems to have got off to a slow start so far. " they are, they will get there | |||
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"We should play brexit bingo where we get cards with the list things leavers blame for all the problems caused by brexit. It's not a bad idea but I think the rules are wrong. Remainers blame everything on Brexit and Leavers offer alternative reasons." oh yes they "alternative facts" line | |||
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"We should play brexit bingo where we get cards with the list things leavers blame for all the problems caused by brexit. It's not a bad idea but I think the rules are wrong. Remainers blame everything on Brexit and Leavers offer alternative reasons. oh yes they "alternative facts" line" You seem intent on causing an argument. I didn't use the word 'facts'. That is a fact. You know something that I actually said  | |||
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"We should play brexit bingo where we get cards with the list things leavers blame for all the problems caused by brexit. It's not a bad idea but I think the rules are wrong. Remainers blame everything on Brexit and Leavers offer alternative reasons." Sure, work away. Haven't seen much of this happening though. | |||
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"We should play brexit bingo where we get cards with the list things leavers blame for all the problems caused by brexit. It's not a bad idea but I think the rules are wrong. Remainers blame everything on Brexit and Leavers offer alternative reasons. Sure, work away. Haven't seen much of this happening though." This very thread started with a Remainer blaming Brexit for something  | |||
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"We should play brexit bingo where we get cards with the list things leavers blame for all the problems caused by brexit. It's not a bad idea but I think the rules are wrong. Remainers blame everything on Brexit and Leavers offer alternative reasons. Sure, work away. Haven't seen much of this happening though. This very thread started with a Remainer blaming Brexit for something "This very thread is about the impact of brexit on jobs in the financial industry. Would have been quite a twist to discuss this without mentioning the cause of these potential job losses. | |||
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"We should play brexit bingo where we get cards with the list things leavers blame for all the problems caused by brexit. It's not a bad idea but I think the rules are wrong. Remainers blame everything on Brexit and Leavers offer alternative reasons. Sure, work away. Haven't seen much of this happening though. This very thread started with a Remainer blaming Brexit for something
This very thread is about the impact of brexit on jobs in the financial industry.
Would have been quite a twist to discuss this without mentioning the cause of these potential job losses."But 1000 firms are coming the other way if you believe the reports. I don't see any Remainer posting about that. The fact is Remainers will continue to post 'bad things' about Brexit and Leavers will continue to post 'good things' about Brexit. Both sides will continue to argue and then eventually it'll get less and less, eventually we will go back to actually talking about all the other things that happen with politics. | |||
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"We should play brexit bingo where we get cards with the list things leavers blame for all the problems caused by brexit. It's not a bad idea but I think the rules are wrong. Remainers blame everything on Brexit and Leavers offer alternative reasons. Sure, work away. Haven't seen much of this happening though. This very thread started with a Remainer blaming Brexit for something
This very thread is about the impact of brexit on jobs in the financial industry.
Would have been quite a twist to discuss this without mentioning the cause of these potential job losses.
But 1000 firms are coming the other way if you believe the reports. I don't see any Remainer posting about that.
The fact is Remainers will continue to post 'bad things' about Brexit and Leavers will continue to post 'good things' about Brexit.
Both sides will continue to argue and then eventually it'll get less and less, eventually we will go back to actually talking about all the other things that happen with politics."I agree in general. Likely to be decades before we start to recover from brexit though, so I can't see it changing anytime soon. | |||
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"We should play brexit bingo where we get cards with the list things leavers blame for all the problems caused by brexit. It's not a bad idea but I think the rules are wrong. Remainers blame everything on Brexit and Leavers offer alternative reasons. Sure, work away. Haven't seen much of this happening though. This very thread started with a Remainer blaming Brexit for something
This very thread is about the impact of brexit on jobs in the financial industry.
Would have been quite a twist to discuss this without mentioning the cause of these potential job losses."The OP's report from the Financial News is one from 2 years ago!  | |||
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"We should play brexit bingo where we get cards with the list things leavers blame for all the problems caused by brexit. It's not a bad idea but I think the rules are wrong. Remainers blame everything on Brexit and Leavers offer alternative reasons. Sure, work away. Haven't seen much of this happening though. This very thread started with a Remainer blaming Brexit for something
This very thread is about the impact of brexit on jobs in the financial industry.
Would have been quite a twist to discuss this without mentioning the cause of these potential job losses.
The OP's report from the Financial News is one from 2 years ago! "Oh dear how embarrassing | |||
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"Apologies all. There is a more recent article just appeared in the Financial News (not too dissamilar to the one from Jan 2019). I fucked up there! "It happens. There is a lot of news of this nature around on line. | |||
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"We should play brexit bingo where we get cards with the list things leavers blame for all the problems caused by brexit. It's not a bad idea but I think the rules are wrong. Remainers blame everything on Brexit and Leavers offer alternative reasons. Sure, work away. Haven't seen much of this happening though. This very thread started with a Remainer blaming Brexit for something
This very thread is about the impact of brexit on jobs in the financial industry.
Would have been quite a twist to discuss this without mentioning the cause of these potential job losses.
The OP's report from the Financial News is one from 2 years ago!
Oh dear how embarrassing "if it was two years ago, simply means we've been running the economy down for two years if you don't like ut, try this https://www.theweek.co.uk/brexit/108239/brexit-exodus-7500-finance-jobs-move-to-europe-from-uk | |||
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"Apologies all. There is a more recent article just appeared in the Financial News (not too dissamilar to the one from Jan 2019). I fucked up there!
It happens. There is a lot of news of this nature around on line."Trouble is a vast amount of the 'news' that remainers delight in reporting dates from before Brexit and hasn't been updated. | |||
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"We should play brexit bingo where we get cards with the list things leavers blame for all the problems caused by brexit. It's not a bad idea but I think the rules are wrong. Remainers blame everything on Brexit and Leavers offer alternative reasons. Sure, work away. Haven't seen much of this happening though. This very thread started with a Remainer blaming Brexit for something
This very thread is about the impact of brexit on jobs in the financial industry.
Would have been quite a twist to discuss this without mentioning the cause of these potential job losses.
The OP's report from the Financial News is one from 2 years ago!
Oh dear how embarrassing
if it was two years ago, simply means we've been running the economy down for two years
if you don't like ut, try this
https://www.theweek.co.uk/brexit/108239/brexit-exodus-7500-finance-jobs-move-to-europe-from-uk"Lol prooves my point. Dated 1st October. Utterly irrelevant sorry. | |||
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"Apologies all. There is a more recent article just appeared in the Financial News (not too dissamilar to the one from Jan 2019). I fucked up there!
It happens. There is a lot of news of this nature around on line.
Trouble is a vast amount of the 'news' that remainers delight in reporting dates from before Brexit and hasn't been updated. "Apart from the post directly above yours of course. | |||
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"We should play brexit bingo where we get cards with the list things leavers blame for all the problems caused by brexit. It's not a bad idea but I think the rules are wrong. Remainers blame everything on Brexit and Leavers offer alternative reasons. Sure, work away. Haven't seen much of this happening though. This very thread started with a Remainer blaming Brexit for something
This very thread is about the impact of brexit on jobs in the financial industry.
Would have been quite a twist to discuss this without mentioning the cause of these potential job losses.
The OP's report from the Financial News is one from 2 years ago!
Oh dear how embarrassing
if it was two years ago, simply means we've been running the economy down for two years
if you don't like ut, try this
https://www.theweek.co.uk/brexit/108239/brexit-exodus-7500-finance-jobs-move-to-europe-from-uk
Lol prooves my point. Dated 1st October. Utterly irrelevant sorry. "8 months after brexit. | |||
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"We should play brexit bingo where we get cards with the list things leavers blame for all the problems caused by brexit. It's not a bad idea but I think the rules are wrong. Remainers blame everything on Brexit and Leavers offer alternative reasons. Sure, work away. Haven't seen much of this happening though. This very thread started with a Remainer blaming Brexit for something
This very thread is about the impact of brexit on jobs in the financial industry.
Would have been quite a twist to discuss this without mentioning the cause of these potential job losses.
The OP's report from the Financial News is one from 2 years ago!
Oh dear how embarrassing
if it was two years ago, simply means we've been running the economy down for two years
if you don't like ut, try this
https://www.theweek.co.uk/brexit/108239/brexit-exodus-7500-finance-jobs-move-to-europe-from-uk
Lol prooves my point. Dated 1st October. Utterly irrelevant sorry. "garbage, it's very very relavent, those city jobs and finance business work that are economy depends off, are going. | |||
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"We should play brexit bingo where we get cards with the list things leavers blame for all the problems caused by brexit. It's not a bad idea but I think the rules are wrong. Remainers blame everything on Brexit and Leavers offer alternative reasons. Sure, work away. Haven't seen much of this happening though. This very thread started with a Remainer blaming Brexit for something
This very thread is about the impact of brexit on jobs in the financial industry.
Would have been quite a twist to discuss this without mentioning the cause of these potential job losses.
The OP's report from the Financial News is one from 2 years ago!
Oh dear how embarrassing
if it was two years ago, simply means we've been running the economy down for two years
if you don't like ut, try this
https://www.theweek.co.uk/brexit/108239/brexit-exodus-7500-finance-jobs-move-to-europe-from-uk
Lol prooves my point. Dated 1st October. Utterly irrelevant sorry.
garbage, it's very very relavent, those city jobs and finance business work that are economy depends off, are going."And yet none have been lost, 4 months later. | |||
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"We should play brexit bingo where we get cards with the list things leavers blame for all the problems caused by brexit. It's not a bad idea but I think the rules are wrong. Remainers blame everything on Brexit and Leavers offer alternative reasons. Sure, work away. Haven't seen much of this happening though. This very thread started with a Remainer blaming Brexit for something
This very thread is about the impact of brexit on jobs in the financial industry.
Would have been quite a twist to discuss this without mentioning the cause of these potential job losses.
The OP's report from the Financial News is one from 2 years ago!
Oh dear how embarrassing
if it was two years ago, simply means we've been running the economy down for two years
if you don't like ut, try this
https://www.theweek.co.uk/brexit/108239/brexit-exodus-7500-finance-jobs-move-to-europe-from-uk
Lol prooves my point. Dated 1st October. Utterly irrelevant sorry.
garbage, it's very very relavent, those city jobs and finance business work that are economy depends off, are going.
And yet none have been lost, 4 months later. "A recent (December 2020) report in the FT quoted, "Initial warnings that tens of thousands of jobs would leave the City as a result of the 2016 Brexit vote have been drastically scaled back. An FT survey of 24 large international banks and asset managers found that the majority had increased their London headcount over the past five years." | |||
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"Come on Chris..... Help us out here we are still awaiting the positive outcome from the news of a British supermarket chain in Belgium on the verge of closure having had no deliveries since December and Morrison’s and 20 M&S. stores in the EU not receiving good due to mountains of paperwork required. Also the possibility of a large exodus of financial services jobs from London to Europe. We really need to see the all positives of this. You must have at least one....." Brexit is the positive, the rest is all just a mild consequence of that. Some people on here need to get out more ..... Doh! | |||
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"Come on Chris..... Help us out here we are still awaiting the positive outcome from the news of a British supermarket chain in Belgium on the verge of closure having had no deliveries since December and Morrison’s and 20 M&S. stores in the EU not receiving good due to mountains of paperwork required. Also the possibility of a large exodus of financial services jobs from London to Europe. We really need to see the all positives of this. You must have at least one..... Brexit is the positive, the rest is all just a mild consequence of that. Some people on here need to get out more ..... Doh! "thats an interesting line to take, cannot see how something that sets neighbour against neighbour and trashes the economy can be seen as a positive. Some disaster capitalists may disagree. | |||
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"Come on Chris..... Help us out here we are still awaiting the positive outcome from the news of a British supermarket chain in Belgium on the verge of closure having had no deliveries since December and Morrison’s and 20 M&S. stores in the EU not receiving good due to mountains of paperwork required. Also the possibility of a large exodus of financial services jobs from London to Europe. We really need to see the all positives of this. You must have at least one..... Brexit is the positive, the rest is all just a mild consequence of that. Some people on here need to get out more ..... Doh!
thats an interesting line to take, cannot see how something that sets neighbour against neighbour and trashes the economy can be seen as a positive. Some disaster capitalists may disagree."1 The economy is not "trashed" by a long way, you're just being overly dramatic 2 General elections pit neighbour against neighbour, nothing new. It's all about "cause and effect" some win some lose always has been and always will be | |||
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"Come on Chris..... Help us out here we are still awaiting the positive outcome from the news of a British supermarket chain in Belgium on the verge of closure having had no deliveries since December and Morrison’s and 20 M&S. stores in the EU not receiving good due to mountains of paperwork required. Also the possibility of a large exodus of financial services jobs from London to Europe. We really need to see the all positives of this. You must have at least one..... Brexit is the positive, the rest is all just a mild consequence of that. Some people on here need to get out more ..... Doh! "This is interesting. Aside from the word "brexit" can you elaborate on why brexit itself is positive? | |||
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"Come on Chris..... Help us out here we are still awaiting the positive outcome from the news of a British supermarket chain in Belgium on the verge of closure having had no deliveries since December and Morrison’s and 20 M&S. stores in the EU not receiving good due to mountains of paperwork required. Also the possibility of a large exodus of financial services jobs from London to Europe. We really need to see the all positives of this. You must have at least one..... Brexit is the positive, the rest is all just a mild consequence of that. Some people on here need to get out more ..... Doh!
This is interesting. Aside from the word "brexit" can you elaborate on why brexit itself is positive?"You've heard me quote this before, "will of the people" | |||
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"Come on Chris..... Help us out here we are still awaiting the positive outcome from the news of a British supermarket chain in Belgium on the verge of closure having had no deliveries since December and Morrison’s and 20 M&S. stores in the EU not receiving good due to mountains of paperwork required. Also the possibility of a large exodus of financial services jobs from London to Europe. We really need to see the all positives of this. You must have at least one....." OK so you've all lost that argument about city jobs and you're moving onto a new subject, noted. Let me check... Ah yes I've already answered the M+S non story in the appropriate thread. | |||
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"Come on Chris..... Help us out here we are still awaiting the positive outcome from the news of a British supermarket chain in Belgium on the verge of closure having had no deliveries since December and Morrison’s and 20 M&S. stores in the EU not receiving good due to mountains of paperwork required. Also the possibility of a large exodus of financial services jobs from London to Europe. We really need to see the all positives of this. You must have at least one..... Brexit is the positive, the rest is all just a mild consequence of that. Some people on here need to get out more ..... Doh!
This is interesting. Aside from the word "brexit" can you elaborate on why brexit itself is positive?
You've heard me quote this before, "will of the people"
"How does that relate to brexit? The leave campaigns were based on lies, were illegally funded. Look at the reasons cite for voting leave. All based on misunderstandings of the EU or flat out lies. Sounds more like the will of those behind brexit. Who just so happen to be the same people likely to benefit while the rest of us lose out. And the final point, it was a small minority of the country who voted leave. The majority didn't vote. | |||
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"Come on Chris..... Help us out here we are still awaiting the positive outcome from the news of a British supermarket chain in Belgium on the verge of closure having had no deliveries since December and Morrison’s and 20 M&S. stores in the EU not receiving good due to mountains of paperwork required. Also the possibility of a large exodus of financial services jobs from London to Europe. We really need to see the all positives of this. You must have at least one..... Brexit is the positive, the rest is all just a mild consequence of that. Some people on here need to get out more ..... Doh!
This is interesting. Aside from the word "brexit" can you elaborate on why brexit itself is positive?
You've heard me quote this before, "will of the people"
How does that relate to brexit? The leave campaigns were based on lies, were illegally funded.
Look at the reasons cite for voting leave. All based on misunderstandings of the EU or flat out lies.
Sounds more like the will of those behind brexit. Who just so happen to be the same people likely to benefit while the rest of us lose out.
And the final point, it was a small minority of the country who voted leave. The majority didn't vote."You're final point is mute as everyone lives in UK by their own free WILL. Which means abiding by the rules of said nation and the fundamental rule of democracy is the majority vote gets the decision. It was everyone's will. | |||
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"Come on Chris..... Help us out here we are still awaiting the positive outcome from the news of a British supermarket chain in Belgium on the verge of closure having had no deliveries since December and Morrison’s and 20 M&S. stores in the EU not receiving good due to mountains of paperwork required. Also the possibility of a large exodus of financial services jobs from London to Europe. We really need to see the all positives of this. You must have at least one..... Brexit is the positive, the rest is all just a mild consequence of that. Some people on here need to get out more ..... Doh!
This is interesting. Aside from the word "brexit" can you elaborate on why brexit itself is positive?
You've heard me quote this before, "will of the people"
How does that relate to brexit? The leave campaigns were based on lies, were illegally funded.
Look at the reasons cite for voting leave. All based on misunderstandings of the EU or flat out lies.
Sounds more like the will of those behind brexit. Who just so happen to be the same people likely to benefit while the rest of us lose out.
And the final point, it was a small minority of the country who voted leave. The majority didn't vote."Oh hang on we've now moved off M+S and are back onto the leave campaign. These threads do have titles you know. | |||
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"Come on Chris..... Help us out here we are still awaiting the positive outcome from the news of a British supermarket chain in Belgium on the verge of closure having had no deliveries since December and Morrison’s and 20 M&S. stores in the EU not receiving good due to mountains of paperwork required. Also the possibility of a large exodus of financial services jobs from London to Europe. We really need to see the all positives of this. You must have at least one..... Brexit is the positive, the rest is all just a mild consequence of that. Some people on here need to get out more ..... Doh!
This is interesting. Aside from the word "brexit" can you elaborate on why brexit itself is positive?
You've heard me quote this before, "will of the people"
How does that relate to brexit? The leave campaigns were based on lies, were illegally funded.
Look at the reasons cite for voting leave. All based on misunderstandings of the EU or flat out lies.
Sounds more like the will of those behind brexit. Who just so happen to be the same people likely to benefit while the rest of us lose out.
And the final point, it was a small minority of the country who voted leave. The majority didn't vote."We've been here before regards funding. The leave campaign spend £6m less than remain even with the 'illegal funding' You're right about the minority vote but that can be said for every single vote this country has ever had. If it was so important to people they should've got off their arses and got to the polling station. | |||
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"Come on Chris..... Help us out here we are still awaiting the positive outcome from the news of a British supermarket chain in Belgium on the verge of closure having had no deliveries since December and Morrison’s and 20 M&S. stores in the EU not receiving good due to mountains of paperwork required. Also the possibility of a large exodus of financial services jobs from London to Europe. We really need to see the all positives of this. You must have at least one..... Brexit is the positive, the rest is all just a mild consequence of that. Some people on here need to get out more ..... Doh!
This is interesting. Aside from the word "brexit" can you elaborate on why brexit itself is positive?
You've heard me quote this before, "will of the people"
How does that relate to brexit? The leave campaigns were based on lies, were illegally funded.
Look at the reasons cite for voting leave. All based on misunderstandings of the EU or flat out lies.
Sounds more like the will of those behind brexit. Who just so happen to be the same people likely to benefit while the rest of us lose out.
And the final point, it was a small minority of the country who voted leave. The majority didn't vote.
Oh hang on we've now moved off M+S and are back onto the leave campaign.
These threads do have titles you know. "You mean like Lord & Lady forum? | |||
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"We should play brexit bingo where we get cards with the list things leavers blame for all the problems caused by brexit. It's not a bad idea but I think the rules are wrong. Remainers blame everything on Brexit and Leavers offer alternative reasons. Sure, work away. Haven't seen much of this happening though. This very thread started with a Remainer blaming Brexit for something
This very thread is about the impact of brexit on jobs in the financial industry.
Would have been quite a twist to discuss this without mentioning the cause of these potential job losses.
The OP's report from the Financial News is one from 2 years ago!
Oh dear how embarrassing
if it was two years ago, simply means we've been running the economy down for two years
if you don't like ut, try this
https://www.theweek.co.uk/brexit/108239/brexit-exodus-7500-finance-jobs-move-to-europe-from-uk
Lol prooves my point. Dated 1st October. Utterly irrelevant sorry.
garbage, it's very very relavent, those city jobs and finance business work that are economy depends off, are going.
And yet none have been lost, 4 months later.
A recent (December 2020) report in the FT quoted, "Initial warnings that tens of thousands of jobs would leave the City as a result of the 2016 Brexit vote have been drastically scaled back. An FT survey of 24 large international banks and asset managers found that the majority had increased their London headcount over the past five years."
"As Remainers like" unicorns" so much.... London has more unicorns than Amsterdam, Paris and Frankfurt. | |||
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"Come on Chris..... Help us out here we are still awaiting the positive outcome from the news of a British supermarket chain in Belgium on the verge of closure having had no deliveries since December and Morrison’s and 20 M&S. stores in the EU not receiving good due to mountains of paperwork required. Also the possibility of a large exodus of financial services jobs from London to Europe. We really need to see the all positives of this. You must have at least one..... Brexit is the positive, the rest is all just a mild consequence of that. Some people on here need to get out more ..... Doh!
This is interesting. Aside from the word "brexit" can you elaborate on why brexit itself is positive?
You've heard me quote this before, "will of the people"
How does that relate to brexit? The leave campaigns were based on lies, were illegally funded.
Look at the reasons cite for voting leave. All based on misunderstandings of the EU or flat out lies.
Sounds more like the will of those behind brexit. Who just so happen to be the same people likely to benefit while the rest of us lose out.
And the final point, it was a small minority of the country who voted leave. The majority didn't vote.
You're final point is mute as everyone lives in UK by their own free WILL. Which means abiding by the rules of said nation and the fundamental rule of democracy is the majority vote gets the decision. It was everyone's will."If you believe a minority voting to make us all less well off is some kind of win. That's fine. But it's not realistic. | |||
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"Come on Chris..... Help us out here we are still awaiting the positive outcome from the news of a British supermarket chain in Belgium on the verge of closure having had no deliveries since December and Morrison’s and 20 M&S. stores in the EU not receiving good due to mountains of paperwork required. Also the possibility of a large exodus of financial services jobs from London to Europe. We really need to see the all positives of this. You must have at least one..... Brexit is the positive, the rest is all just a mild consequence of that. Some people on here need to get out more ..... Doh!
This is interesting. Aside from the word "brexit" can you elaborate on why brexit itself is positive?
You've heard me quote this before, "will of the people"
How does that relate to brexit? The leave campaigns were based on lies, were illegally funded.
Look at the reasons cite for voting leave. All based on misunderstandings of the EU or flat out lies.
Sounds more like the will of those behind brexit. Who just so happen to be the same people likely to benefit while the rest of us lose out.
And the final point, it was a small minority of the country who voted leave. The majority didn't vote.
You're final point is mute as everyone lives in UK by their own free WILL. Which means abiding by the rules of said nation and the fundamental rule of democracy is the majority vote gets the decision. It was everyone's will.
If you believe a minority voting to make us all less well off is some kind of win. That's fine.
But it's not realistic."How can people be in so much denial? | |||
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"Come on Chris..... Help us out here we are still awaiting the positive outcome from the news of a British supermarket chain in Belgium on the verge of closure having had no deliveries since December and Morrison’s and 20 M&S. stores in the EU not receiving good due to mountains of paperwork required. Also the possibility of a large exodus of financial services jobs from London to Europe. We really need to see the all positives of this. You must have at least one..... Brexit is the positive, the rest is all just a mild consequence of that. Some people on here need to get out more ..... Doh!
This is interesting. Aside from the word "brexit" can you elaborate on why brexit itself is positive?
You've heard me quote this before, "will of the people"
How does that relate to brexit? The leave campaigns were based on lies, were illegally funded.
Look at the reasons cite for voting leave. All based on misunderstandings of the EU or flat out lies.
Sounds more like the will of those behind brexit. Who just so happen to be the same people likely to benefit while the rest of us lose out.
And the final point, it was a small minority of the country who voted leave. The majority didn't vote.
You're final point is mute as everyone lives in UK by their own free WILL. Which means abiding by the rules of said nation and the fundamental rule of democracy is the majority vote gets the decision. It was everyone's will.
If you believe a minority voting to make us all less well off is some kind of win. That's fine.
But it's not realistic.
How can people be in so much denial?"We ask this daily when more and more brexit problems move from "project fear" to "is actually happening right now". | |||
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"Come on Chris..... Help us out here we are still awaiting the positive outcome from the news of a British supermarket chain in Belgium on the verge of closure having had no deliveries since December and Morrison’s and 20 M&S. stores in the EU not receiving good due to mountains of paperwork required. Also the possibility of a large exodus of financial services jobs from London to Europe. We really need to see the all positives of this. You must have at least one..... Brexit is the positive, the rest is all just a mild consequence of that. Some people on here need to get out more ..... Doh!
This is interesting. Aside from the word "brexit" can you elaborate on why brexit itself is positive?
You've heard me quote this before, "will of the people"
How does that relate to brexit? The leave campaigns were based on lies, were illegally funded.
Look at the reasons cite for voting leave. All based on misunderstandings of the EU or flat out lies.
Sounds more like the will of those behind brexit. Who just so happen to be the same people likely to benefit while the rest of us lose out.
And the final point, it was a small minority of the country who voted leave. The majority didn't vote.
You're final point is mute as everyone lives in UK by their own free WILL. Which means abiding by the rules of said nation and the fundamental rule of democracy is the majority vote gets the decision. It was everyone's will.
If you believe a minority voting to make us all less well off is some kind of win. That's fine.
But it's not realistic.
How can people be in so much denial?"It's pathetic. I don't actually think they even believe it. An even smaller minority voted remain. | |||
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"Come on Chris..... Help us out here we are still awaiting the positive outcome from the news of a British supermarket chain in Belgium on the verge of closure having had no deliveries since December and Morrison’s and 20 M&S. stores in the EU not receiving good due to mountains of paperwork required. Also the possibility of a large exodus of financial services jobs from London to Europe. We really need to see the all positives of this. You must have at least one..... Brexit is the positive, the rest is all just a mild consequence of that. Some people on here need to get out more ..... Doh!
This is interesting. Aside from the word "brexit" can you elaborate on why brexit itself is positive?
You've heard me quote this before, "will of the people"
How does that relate to brexit? The leave campaigns were based on lies, were illegally funded.
Look at the reasons cite for voting leave. All based on misunderstandings of the EU or flat out lies.
Sounds more like the will of those behind brexit. Who just so happen to be the same people likely to benefit while the rest of us lose out.
And the final point, it was a small minority of the country who voted leave. The majority didn't vote.
You're final point is mute as everyone lives in UK by their own free WILL. Which means abiding by the rules of said nation and the fundamental rule of democracy is the majority vote gets the decision. It was everyone's will.
If you believe a minority voting to make us all less well off is some kind of win. That's fine.
But it's not realistic.
How can people be in so much denial?
We ask this daily when more and more brexit problems move from "project fear" to "is actually happening right now"."It was always gonna happen, never been in doubt. What remainers fail to see is the good side and constantly focus on the bad. Some win an some lose always | |||
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"Come on Chris..... Help us out here we are still awaiting the positive outcome from the news of a British supermarket chain in Belgium on the verge of closure having had no deliveries since December and Morrison’s and 20 M&S. stores in the EU not receiving good due to mountains of paperwork required. Also the possibility of a large exodus of financial services jobs from London to Europe. We really need to see the all positives of this. You must have at least one..... Brexit is the positive, the rest is all just a mild consequence of that. Some people on here need to get out more ..... Doh!
This is interesting. Aside from the word "brexit" can you elaborate on why brexit itself is positive?
You've heard me quote this before, "will of the people"
How does that relate to brexit? The leave campaigns were based on lies, were illegally funded.
Look at the reasons cite for voting leave. All based on misunderstandings of the EU or flat out lies.
Sounds more like the will of those behind brexit. Who just so happen to be the same people likely to benefit while the rest of us lose out.
And the final point, it was a small minority of the country who voted leave. The majority didn't vote.
You're final point is mute as everyone lives in UK by their own free WILL. Which means abiding by the rules of said nation and the fundamental rule of democracy is the majority vote gets the decision. It was everyone's will.
If you believe a minority voting to make us all less well off is some kind of win. That's fine.
But it's not realistic.
How can people be in so much denial?
We ask this daily when more and more brexit problems move from "project fear" to "is actually happening right now"."Yet when the thread OP is "gazillions of city jobs lost" and it turns out they haven't lost any at all... You all just look a bit silly. | |||
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"Come on Chris..... Help us out here we are still awaiting the positive outcome from the news of a British supermarket chain in Belgium on the verge of closure having had no deliveries since December and Morrison’s and 20 M&S. stores in the EU not receiving good due to mountains of paperwork required. Also the possibility of a large exodus of financial services jobs from London to Europe. We really need to see the all positives of this. You must have at least one..... Brexit is the positive, the rest is all just a mild consequence of that. Some people on here need to get out more ..... Doh!
This is interesting. Aside from the word "brexit" can you elaborate on why brexit itself is positive?
You've heard me quote this before, "will of the people"
How does that relate to brexit? The leave campaigns were based on lies, were illegally funded.
Look at the reasons cite for voting leave. All based on misunderstandings of the EU or flat out lies.
Sounds more like the will of those behind brexit. Who just so happen to be the same people likely to benefit while the rest of us lose out.
And the final point, it was a small minority of the country who voted leave. The majority didn't vote.
You're final point is mute as everyone lives in UK by their own free WILL. Which means abiding by the rules of said nation and the fundamental rule of democracy is the majority vote gets the decision. It was everyone's will.
If you believe a minority voting to make us all less well off is some kind of win. That's fine.
But it's not realistic.
How can people be in so much denial?
We ask this daily when more and more brexit problems move from "project fear" to "is actually happening right now".
It was always gonna happen, never been in doubt. What remainers fail to see is the good side and constantly focus on the bad. Some win an some lose always"We're always asking for the upside. No one has presented anything concrete yet. | |||
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"Come on Chris..... Help us out here we are still awaiting the positive outcome from the news of a British supermarket chain in Belgium on the verge of closure having had no deliveries since December and Morrison’s and 20 M&S. stores in the EU not receiving good due to mountains of paperwork required. Also the possibility of a large exodus of financial services jobs from London to Europe. We really need to see the all positives of this. You must have at least one..... Brexit is the positive, the rest is all just a mild consequence of that. Some people on here need to get out more ..... Doh!
This is interesting. Aside from the word "brexit" can you elaborate on why brexit itself is positive?
You've heard me quote this before, "will of the people"
How does that relate to brexit? The leave campaigns were based on lies, were illegally funded.
Look at the reasons cite for voting leave. All based on misunderstandings of the EU or flat out lies.
Sounds more like the will of those behind brexit. Who just so happen to be the same people likely to benefit while the rest of us lose out.
And the final point, it was a small minority of the country who voted leave. The majority didn't vote.
You're final point is mute as everyone lives in UK by their own free WILL. Which means abiding by the rules of said nation and the fundamental rule of democracy is the majority vote gets the decision. It was everyone's will.
If you believe a minority voting to make us all less well off is some kind of win. That's fine.
But it's not realistic.
How can people be in so much denial?
We ask this daily when more and more brexit problems move from "project fear" to "is actually happening right now".
It was always gonna happen, never been in doubt. What remainers fail to see is the good side and constantly focus on the bad. Some win an some lose always
We're always asking for the upside. No one has presented anything concrete yet. "There you go again in denial, you have been told many times just by me. The will of the people and Brexit is the positive. | |||
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"Come on Chris..... Help us out here we are still awaiting the positive outcome from the news of a British supermarket chain in Belgium on the verge of closure having had no deliveries since December and Morrison’s and 20 M&S. stores in the EU not receiving good due to mountains of paperwork required. Also the possibility of a large exodus of financial services jobs from London to Europe. We really need to see the all positives of this. You must have at least one..... Brexit is the positive, the rest is all just a mild consequence of that. Some people on here need to get out more ..... Doh!
This is interesting. Aside from the word "brexit" can you elaborate on why brexit itself is positive?
You've heard me quote this before, "will of the people"
How does that relate to brexit? The leave campaigns were based on lies, were illegally funded.
Look at the reasons cite for voting leave. All based on misunderstandings of the EU or flat out lies.
Sounds more like the will of those behind brexit. Who just so happen to be the same people likely to benefit while the rest of us lose out.
And the final point, it was a small minority of the country who voted leave. The majority didn't vote.
You're final point is mute as everyone lives in UK by their own free WILL. Which means abiding by the rules of said nation and the fundamental rule of democracy is the majority vote gets the decision. It was everyone's will.
If you believe a minority voting to make us all less well off is some kind of win. That's fine.
But it's not realistic.
How can people be in so much denial?
We ask this daily when more and more brexit problems move from "project fear" to "is actually happening right now".
It was always gonna happen, never been in doubt. What remainers fail to see is the good side and constantly focus on the bad. Some win an some lose always
We're always asking for the upside. No one has presented anything concrete yet.
There you go again in denial, you have been told many times just by me. The will of the people and Brexit is the positive."It's the will of the minority of people to make us all less well off based on misinformation and lies? Yes I deny that this is a brexit positive for most people. | |||
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"Come on Chris..... Help us out here we are still awaiting the positive outcome from the news of a British supermarket chain in Belgium on the verge of closure having had no deliveries since December and Morrison’s and 20 M&S. stores in the EU not receiving good due to mountains of paperwork required. Also the possibility of a large exodus of financial services jobs from London to Europe. We really need to see the all positives of this. You must have at least one..... Brexit is the positive, the rest is all just a mild consequence of that. Some people on here need to get out more ..... Doh!
This is interesting. Aside from the word "brexit" can you elaborate on why brexit itself is positive?
You've heard me quote this before, "will of the people"
How does that relate to brexit? The leave campaigns were based on lies, were illegally funded.
Look at the reasons cite for voting leave. All based on misunderstandings of the EU or flat out lies.
Sounds more like the will of those behind brexit. Who just so happen to be the same people likely to benefit while the rest of us lose out.
And the final point, it was a small minority of the country who voted leave. The majority didn't vote.
You're final point is mute as everyone lives in UK by their own free WILL. Which means abiding by the rules of said nation and the fundamental rule of democracy is the majority vote gets the decision. It was everyone's will.
If you believe a minority voting to make us all less well off is some kind of win. That's fine.
But it's not realistic.
How can people be in so much denial?
We ask this daily when more and more brexit problems move from "project fear" to "is actually happening right now".
It was always gonna happen, never been in doubt. What remainers fail to see is the good side and constantly focus on the bad. Some win an some lose always
We're always asking for the upside. No one has presented anything concrete yet.
There you go again in denial, you have been told many times just by me. The will of the people and Brexit is the positive.
It's the will of the minority of people to make us all less well off based on misinformation and lies?
Yes I deny that this is a brexit positive for most people.
"I'm not less well off. Anyone else in here actually less well off because of Brexit? I know of maybe 2 people who comment that all of this has maybe affected. And what we still don't know is if it'll be short term or long. | |||
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"Come on Chris..... Help us out here we are still awaiting the positive outcome from the news of a British supermarket chain in Belgium on the verge of closure having had no deliveries since December and Morrison’s and 20 M&S. stores in the EU not receiving good due to mountains of paperwork required. Also the possibility of a large exodus of financial services jobs from London to Europe. We really need to see the all positives of this. You must have at least one..... Brexit is the positive, the rest is all just a mild consequence of that. Some people on here need to get out more ..... Doh!
This is interesting. Aside from the word "brexit" can you elaborate on why brexit itself is positive?
You've heard me quote this before, "will of the people"
How does that relate to brexit? The leave campaigns were based on lies, were illegally funded.
Look at the reasons cite for voting leave. All based on misunderstandings of the EU or flat out lies.
Sounds more like the will of those behind brexit. Who just so happen to be the same people likely to benefit while the rest of us lose out.
And the final point, it was a small minority of the country who voted leave. The majority didn't vote.
You're final point is mute as everyone lives in UK by their own free WILL. Which means abiding by the rules of said nation and the fundamental rule of democracy is the majority vote gets the decision. It was everyone's will.
If you believe a minority voting to make us all less well off is some kind of win. That's fine.
But it's not realistic.
How can people be in so much denial?
We ask this daily when more and more brexit problems move from "project fear" to "is actually happening right now".
It was always gonna happen, never been in doubt. What remainers fail to see is the good side and constantly focus on the bad. Some win an some lose always
We're always asking for the upside. No one has presented anything concrete yet.
There you go again in denial, you have been told many times just by me. The will of the people and Brexit is the positive.
It's the will of the minority of people to make us all less well off based on misinformation and lies?
Yes I deny that this is a brexit positive for most people.
I'm not less well off. Anyone else in here actually less well off because of Brexit? I know of maybe 2 people who comment that all of this has maybe affected. And what we still don't know is if it'll be short term or long."Less well off as a country. Less taxes collected. Less public money available. Not only individuals who lost their jobs. This impacts everyone except the ultra rich. | |||
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"Come on Chris..... Help us out here we are still awaiting the positive outcome from the news of a British supermarket chain in Belgium on the verge of closure having had no deliveries since December and Morrison’s and 20 M&S. stores in the EU not receiving good due to mountains of paperwork required. Also the possibility of a large exodus of financial services jobs from London to Europe. We really need to see the all positives of this. You must have at least one..... Brexit is the positive, the rest is all just a mild consequence of that. Some people on here need to get out more ..... Doh!
This is interesting. Aside from the word "brexit" can you elaborate on why brexit itself is positive?
You've heard me quote this before, "will of the people"
How does that relate to brexit? The leave campaigns were based on lies, were illegally funded.
Look at the reasons cite for voting leave. All based on misunderstandings of the EU or flat out lies.
Sounds more like the will of those behind brexit. Who just so happen to be the same people likely to benefit while the rest of us lose out.
And the final point, it was a small minority of the country who voted leave. The majority didn't vote.
You're final point is mute as everyone lives in UK by their own free WILL. Which means abiding by the rules of said nation and the fundamental rule of democracy is the majority vote gets the decision. It was everyone's will.
If you believe a minority voting to make us all less well off is some kind of win. That's fine.
But it's not realistic.
How can people be in so much denial?
We ask this daily when more and more brexit problems move from "project fear" to "is actually happening right now".
It was always gonna happen, never been in doubt. What remainers fail to see is the good side and constantly focus on the bad. Some win an some lose always
We're always asking for the upside. No one has presented anything concrete yet.
There you go again in denial, you have been told many times just by me. The will of the people and Brexit is the positive.
It's the will of the minority of people to make us all less well off based on misinformation and lies?
Yes I deny that this is a brexit positive for most people.
I'm not less well off. Anyone else in here actually less well off because of Brexit? I know of maybe 2 people who comment that all of this has maybe affected. And what we still don't know is if it'll be short term or long.
Less well off as a country. Less taxes collected. Less public money available.
Not only individuals who lost their jobs.
This impacts everyone except the ultra rich. "Are we less well off as a nation though? There's no way we can know that after 6 weeks. Why has there been less taxes collected and less public money available? | |||
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"Come on Chris..... Help us out here we are still awaiting the positive outcome from the news of a British supermarket chain in Belgium on the verge of closure having had no deliveries since December and Morrison’s and 20 M&S. stores in the EU not receiving good due to mountains of paperwork required. Also the possibility of a large exodus of financial services jobs from London to Europe. We really need to see the all positives of this. You must have at least one..... Brexit is the positive, the rest is all just a mild consequence of that. Some people on here need to get out more ..... Doh!
This is interesting. Aside from the word "brexit" can you elaborate on why brexit itself is positive?
You've heard me quote this before, "will of the people"
How does that relate to brexit? The leave campaigns were based on lies, were illegally funded.
Look at the reasons cite for voting leave. All based on misunderstandings of the EU or flat out lies.
Sounds more like the will of those behind brexit. Who just so happen to be the same people likely to benefit while the rest of us lose out.
And the final point, it was a small minority of the country who voted leave. The majority didn't vote.
You're final point is mute as everyone lives in UK by their own free WILL. Which means abiding by the rules of said nation and the fundamental rule of democracy is the majority vote gets the decision. It was everyone's will.
If you believe a minority voting to make us all less well off is some kind of win. That's fine.
But it's not realistic.
How can people be in so much denial?
We ask this daily when more and more brexit problems move from "project fear" to "is actually happening right now".
It was always gonna happen, never been in doubt. What remainers fail to see is the good side and constantly focus on the bad. Some win an some lose always
We're always asking for the upside. No one has presented anything concrete yet.
There you go again in denial, you have been told many times just by me. The will of the people and Brexit is the positive.
It's the will of the minority of people to make us all less well off based on misinformation and lies?
Yes I deny that this is a brexit positive for most people.
I'm not less well off. Anyone else in here actually less well off because of Brexit? I know of maybe 2 people who comment that all of this has maybe affected. And what we still don't know is if it'll be short term or long.
Less well off as a country. Less taxes collected. Less public money available.
Not only individuals who lost their jobs.
This impacts everyone except the ultra rich. "Impacts everyone, yes in a good way. Even less people voted remain than voted leave and as for politician lies, you show me any politician who doesn't lie. The wee beastie doesn't exist. | |||
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"bexaholics still denying that there is a problem" Not at all they know there are problems, remainers blow em out of proportion and deny the positives | |||
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"bexaholics still denying that there is a problem" OP claimed City jobs being lost They havent Therefore no problem It's a bit of a pattern with shrieking hysterical remainer threads making up non existant issues. | |||
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"Come on Chris..... Help us out here we are still awaiting the positive outcome from the news of a British supermarket chain in Belgium on the verge of closure having had no deliveries since December and Morrison’s and 20 M&S. stores in the EU not receiving good due to mountains of paperwork required. Also the possibility of a large exodus of financial services jobs from London to Europe. We really need to see the all positives of this. You must have at least one..... Brexit is the positive, the rest is all just a mild consequence of that. Some people on here need to get out more ..... Doh!
This is interesting. Aside from the word "brexit" can you elaborate on why brexit itself is positive?
You've heard me quote this before, "will of the people"
How does that relate to brexit? The leave campaigns were based on lies, were illegally funded.
Look at the reasons cite for voting leave. All based on misunderstandings of the EU or flat out lies.
Sounds more like the will of those behind brexit. Who just so happen to be the same people likely to benefit while the rest of us lose out.
And the final point, it was a small minority of the country who voted leave. The majority didn't vote.
You're final point is mute as everyone lives in UK by their own free WILL. Which means abiding by the rules of said nation and the fundamental rule of democracy is the majority vote gets the decision. It was everyone's will.
If you believe a minority voting to make us all less well off is some kind of win. That's fine.
But it's not realistic.
How can people be in so much denial?
We ask this daily when more and more brexit problems move from "project fear" to "is actually happening right now".
It was always gonna happen, never been in doubt. What remainers fail to see is the good side and constantly focus on the bad. Some win an some lose always
We're always asking for the upside. No one has presented anything concrete yet.
There you go again in denial, you have been told many times just by me. The will of the people and Brexit is the positive.
It's the will of the minority of people to make us all less well off based on misinformation and lies?
Yes I deny that this is a brexit positive for most people.
I'm not less well off. Anyone else in here actually less well off because of Brexit? I know of maybe 2 people who comment that all of this has maybe affected. And what we still don't know is if it'll be short term or long.
Less well off as a country. Less taxes collected. Less public money available.
Not only individuals who lost their jobs.
This impacts everyone except the ultra rich.
Impacts everyone, yes in a good way.
Even less people voted remain than voted leave and as for politician lies, you show me any politician who doesn't lie. The wee beastie doesn't exist.""Impacts everyone in a good way". Do you have an example? | |||
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"Come on Chris..... Help us out here we are still awaiting the positive outcome from the news of a British supermarket chain in Belgium on the verge of closure having had no deliveries since December and Morrison’s and 20 M&S. stores in the EU not receiving good due to mountains of paperwork required. Also the possibility of a large exodus of financial services jobs from London to Europe. We really need to see the all positives of this. You must have at least one..... Brexit is the positive, the rest is all just a mild consequence of that. Some people on here need to get out more ..... Doh!
This is interesting. Aside from the word "brexit" can you elaborate on why brexit itself is positive?
You've heard me quote this before, "will of the people"
How does that relate to brexit? The leave campaigns were based on lies, were illegally funded.
Look at the reasons cite for voting leave. All based on misunderstandings of the EU or flat out lies.
Sounds more like the will of those behind brexit. Who just so happen to be the same people likely to benefit while the rest of us lose out.
And the final point, it was a small minority of the country who voted leave. The majority didn't vote.
You're final point is mute as everyone lives in UK by their own free WILL. Which means abiding by the rules of said nation and the fundamental rule of democracy is the majority vote gets the decision. It was everyone's will.
If you believe a minority voting to make us all less well off is some kind of win. That's fine.
But it's not realistic.
How can people be in so much denial?
We ask this daily when more and more brexit problems move from "project fear" to "is actually happening right now".
It was always gonna happen, never been in doubt. What remainers fail to see is the good side and constantly focus on the bad. Some win an some lose always
We're always asking for the upside. No one has presented anything concrete yet.
There you go again in denial, you have been told many times just by me. The will of the people and Brexit is the positive.
It's the will of the minority of people to make us all less well off based on misinformation and lies?
Yes I deny that this is a brexit positive for most people.
I'm not less well off. Anyone else in here actually less well off because of Brexit? I know of maybe 2 people who comment that all of this has maybe affected. And what we still don't know is if it'll be short term or long.
Less well off as a country. Less taxes collected. Less public money available.
Not only individuals who lost their jobs.
This impacts everyone except the ultra rich.
Impacts everyone, yes in a good way.
Even less people voted remain than voted leave and as for politician lies, you show me any politician who doesn't lie. The wee beastie doesn't exist.
"Impacts everyone in a good way".
Do you have an example?"Reaffirmation that democracy in the UK works, for 1, one very big one. | |||
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"Come on Chris..... Help us out here we are still awaiting the positive outcome from the news of a British supermarket chain in Belgium on the verge of closure having had no deliveries since December and Morrison’s and 20 M&S. stores in the EU not receiving good due to mountains of paperwork required. Also the possibility of a large exodus of financial services jobs from London to Europe. We really need to see the all positives of this. You must have at least one..... Brexit is the positive, the rest is all just a mild consequence of that. Some people on here need to get out more ..... Doh!
This is interesting. Aside from the word "brexit" can you elaborate on why brexit itself is positive?
You've heard me quote this before, "will of the people"
How does that relate to brexit? The leave campaigns were based on lies, were illegally funded.
Look at the reasons cite for voting leave. All based on misunderstandings of the EU or flat out lies.
Sounds more like the will of those behind brexit. Who just so happen to be the same people likely to benefit while the rest of us lose out.
And the final point, it was a small minority of the country who voted leave. The majority didn't vote.
You're final point is mute as everyone lives in UK by their own free WILL. Which means abiding by the rules of said nation and the fundamental rule of democracy is the majority vote gets the decision. It was everyone's will.
If you believe a minority voting to make us all less well off is some kind of win. That's fine.
But it's not realistic.
How can people be in so much denial?
We ask this daily when more and more brexit problems move from "project fear" to "is actually happening right now".
It was always gonna happen, never been in doubt. What remainers fail to see is the good side and constantly focus on the bad. Some win an some lose always
We're always asking for the upside. No one has presented anything concrete yet.
There you go again in denial, you have been told many times just by me. The will of the people and Brexit is the positive.
It's the will of the minority of people to make us all less well off based on misinformation and lies?
Yes I deny that this is a brexit positive for most people.
I'm not less well off. Anyone else in here actually less well off because of Brexit? I know of maybe 2 people who comment that all of this has maybe affected. And what we still don't know is if it'll be short term or long.
Less well off as a country. Less taxes collected. Less public money available.
Not only individuals who lost their jobs.
This impacts everyone except the ultra rich.
Impacts everyone, yes in a good way.
Even less people voted remain than voted leave and as for politician lies, you show me any politician who doesn't lie. The wee beastie doesn't exist.
"Impacts everyone in a good way".
Do you have an example?
Reaffirmation that democracy in the UK works, for 1, one very big one."Democracy is supposed to bee free and fair. This was neither. Are you genuinely suggesting that the fact a referendum happened, is a brexit benefit? | |||
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"Come on Chris..... Help us out here we are still awaiting the positive outcome from the news of a British supermarket chain in Belgium on the verge of closure having had no deliveries since December and Morrison’s and 20 M&S. stores in the EU not receiving good due to mountains of paperwork required. Also the possibility of a large exodus of financial services jobs from London to Europe. We really need to see the all positives of this. You must have at least one..... Brexit is the positive, the rest is all just a mild consequence of that. Some people on here need to get out more ..... Doh!
This is interesting. Aside from the word "brexit" can you elaborate on why brexit itself is positive?
You've heard me quote this before, "will of the people"
How does that relate to brexit? The leave campaigns were based on lies, were illegally funded.
Look at the reasons cite for voting leave. All based on misunderstandings of the EU or flat out lies.
Sounds more like the will of those behind brexit. Who just so happen to be the same people likely to benefit while the rest of us lose out.
And the final point, it was a small minority of the country who voted leave. The majority didn't vote.
You're final point is mute as everyone lives in UK by their own free WILL. Which means abiding by the rules of said nation and the fundamental rule of democracy is the majority vote gets the decision. It was everyone's will.
If you believe a minority voting to make us all less well off is some kind of win. That's fine.
But it's not realistic.
How can people be in so much denial?
We ask this daily when more and more brexit problems move from "project fear" to "is actually happening right now".
It was always gonna happen, never been in doubt. What remainers fail to see is the good side and constantly focus on the bad. Some win an some lose always
We're always asking for the upside. No one has presented anything concrete yet.
There you go again in denial, you have been told many times just by me. The will of the people and Brexit is the positive.
It's the will of the minority of people to make us all less well off based on misinformation and lies?
Yes I deny that this is a brexit positive for most people.
I'm not less well off. Anyone else in here actually less well off because of Brexit? I know of maybe 2 people who comment that all of this has maybe affected. And what we still don't know is if it'll be short term or long.
Less well off as a country. Less taxes collected. Less public money available.
Not only individuals who lost their jobs.
This impacts everyone except the ultra rich.
Impacts everyone, yes in a good way.
Even less people voted remain than voted leave and as for politician lies, you show me any politician who doesn't lie. The wee beastie doesn't exist.
"Impacts everyone in a good way".
Do you have an example?
Reaffirmation that democracy in the UK works, for 1, one very big one.
Democracy is supposed to bee free and fair. This was neither.
Are you genuinely suggesting that the fact a referendum happened, is a brexit benefit?"I'm beginning to believe you really don't understand, well i'm not in the mood for bashing my head against a brick wall. | |||
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"Come on Chris..... Help us out here we are still awaiting the positive outcome from the news of a British supermarket chain in Belgium on the verge of closure having had no deliveries since December and Morrison’s and 20 M&S. stores in the EU not receiving good due to mountains of paperwork required. Also the possibility of a large exodus of financial services jobs from London to Europe. We really need to see the all positives of this. You must have at least one..... Brexit is the positive, the rest is all just a mild consequence of that. Some people on here need to get out more ..... Doh!
This is interesting. Aside from the word "brexit" can you elaborate on why brexit itself is positive?
You've heard me quote this before, "will of the people"
How does that relate to brexit? The leave campaigns were based on lies, were illegally funded.
Look at the reasons cite for voting leave. All based on misunderstandings of the EU or flat out lies.
Sounds more like the will of those behind brexit. Who just so happen to be the same people likely to benefit while the rest of us lose out.
And the final point, it was a small minority of the country who voted leave. The majority didn't vote.
You're final point is mute as everyone lives in UK by their own free WILL. Which means abiding by the rules of said nation and the fundamental rule of democracy is the majority vote gets the decision. It was everyone's will.
If you believe a minority voting to make us all less well off is some kind of win. That's fine.
But it's not realistic.
How can people be in so much denial?
We ask this daily when more and more brexit problems move from "project fear" to "is actually happening right now".
It was always gonna happen, never been in doubt. What remainers fail to see is the good side and constantly focus on the bad. Some win an some lose always
We're always asking for the upside. No one has presented anything concrete yet.
There you go again in denial, you have been told many times just by me. The will of the people and Brexit is the positive.
It's the will of the minority of people to make us all less well off based on misinformation and lies?
Yes I deny that this is a brexit positive for most people.
I'm not less well off. Anyone else in here actually less well off because of Brexit? I know of maybe 2 people who comment that all of this has maybe affected. And what we still don't know is if it'll be short term or long.
Less well off as a country. Less taxes collected. Less public money available.
Not only individuals who lost their jobs.
This impacts everyone except the ultra rich.
Impacts everyone, yes in a good way.
Even less people voted remain than voted leave and as for politician lies, you show me any politician who doesn't lie. The wee beastie doesn't exist.
"Impacts everyone in a good way".
Do you have an example?
Reaffirmation that democracy in the UK works, for 1, one very big one.
Democracy is supposed to bee free and fair. This was neither.
Are you genuinely suggesting that the fact a referendum happened, is a brexit benefit?
I'm beginning to believe you really don't understand, well i'm not in the mood for bashing my head against a brick wall."
Thanks for remaining cordial throughout.
Have a good day. | |||
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"bexaholics still denying that there is a problem Not at all they know there are problems, remainers blow em out of proportion and deny the positives" | |||
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"Come on Chris..... Help us out here we are still awaiting the positive outcome from the news of a British supermarket chain in Belgium on the verge of closure having had no deliveries since December and Morrison’s and 20 M&S. stores in the EU not receiving good due to mountains of paperwork required. Also the possibility of a large exodus of financial services jobs from London to Europe. We really need to see the all positives of this. You must have at least one..... Brexit is the positive, the rest is all just a mild consequence of that. Some people on here need to get out more ..... Doh!
This is interesting. Aside from the word "brexit" can you elaborate on why brexit itself is positive?
You've heard me quote this before, "will of the people"
How does that relate to brexit? The leave campaigns were based on lies, were illegally funded.
Look at the reasons cite for voting leave. All based on misunderstandings of the EU or flat out lies.
Sounds more like the will of those behind brexit. Who just so happen to be the same people likely to benefit while the rest of us lose out.
And the final point, it was a small minority of the country who voted leave. The majority didn't vote.
You're final point is mute as everyone lives in UK by their own free WILL. Which means abiding by the rules of said nation and the fundamental rule of democracy is the majority vote gets the decision. It was everyone's will.
If you believe a minority voting to make us all less well off is some kind of win. That's fine.
But it's not realistic.
How can people be in so much denial?
We ask this daily when more and more brexit problems move from "project fear" to "is actually happening right now".
It was always gonna happen, never been in doubt. What remainers fail to see is the good side and constantly focus on the bad. Some win an some lose always
We're always asking for the upside. No one has presented anything concrete yet.
There you go again in denial, you have been told many times just by me. The will of the people and Brexit is the positive.
It's the will of the minority of people to make us all less well off based on misinformation and lies?
Yes I deny that this is a brexit positive for most people.
I'm not less well off. Anyone else in here actually less well off because of Brexit? I know of maybe 2 people who comment that all of this has maybe affected. And what we still don't know is if it'll be short term or long.
Less well off as a country. Less taxes collected. Less public money available.
Not only individuals who lost their jobs.
This impacts everyone except the ultra rich.
Impacts everyone, yes in a good way.
Even less people voted remain than voted leave and as for politician lies, you show me any politician who doesn't lie. The wee beastie doesn't exist.
"Impacts everyone in a good way".
Do you have an example?
Reaffirmation that democracy in the UK works, for 1, one very big one.
Democracy is supposed to bee free and fair. This was neither.
Are you genuinely suggesting that the fact a referendum happened, is a brexit benefit?
I'm beginning to believe you really don't understand, well i'm not in the mood for bashing my head against a brick wall."Providing an affirmation of democracy only provides a positive of the process not a positive of the impact of the outcome. These may seem subtle to you but they are very great differences.... | |||
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"Come on Chris..... Help us out here we are still awaiting the positive outcome from the news of a British supermarket chain in Belgium on the verge of closure having had no deliveries since December and Morrison’s and 20 M&S. stores in the EU not receiving good due to mountains of paperwork required. Also the possibility of a large exodus of financial services jobs from London to Europe. We really need to see the all positives of this. You must have at least one..... Brexit is the positive, the rest is all just a mild consequence of that. Some people on here need to get out more ..... Doh!
This is interesting. Aside from the word "brexit" can you elaborate on why brexit itself is positive?
You've heard me quote this before, "will of the people"
How does that relate to brexit? The leave campaigns were based on lies, were illegally funded.
Look at the reasons cite for voting leave. All based on misunderstandings of the EU or flat out lies.
Sounds more like the will of those behind brexit. Who just so happen to be the same people likely to benefit while the rest of us lose out.
And the final point, it was a small minority of the country who voted leave. The majority didn't vote.
You're final point is mute as everyone lives in UK by their own free WILL. Which means abiding by the rules of said nation and the fundamental rule of democracy is the majority vote gets the decision. It was everyone's will.
If you believe a minority voting to make us all less well off is some kind of win. That's fine.
But it's not realistic.
How can people be in so much denial?
We ask this daily when more and more brexit problems move from "project fear" to "is actually happening right now".
It was always gonna happen, never been in doubt. What remainers fail to see is the good side and constantly focus on the bad. Some win an some lose always
We're always asking for the upside. No one has presented anything concrete yet.
There you go again in denial, you have been told many times just by me. The will of the people and Brexit is the positive.
It's the will of the minority of people to make us all less well off based on misinformation and lies?
Yes I deny that this is a brexit positive for most people.
I'm not less well off. Anyone else in here actually less well off because of Brexit? I know of maybe 2 people who comment that all of this has maybe affected. And what we still don't know is if it'll be short term or long.
Less well off as a country. Less taxes collected. Less public money available.
Not only individuals who lost their jobs.
This impacts everyone except the ultra rich.
Impacts everyone, yes in a good way.
Even less people voted remain than voted leave and as for politician lies, you show me any politician who doesn't lie. The wee beastie doesn't exist.
"Impacts everyone in a good way".
Do you have an example?
Reaffirmation that democracy in the UK works, for 1, one very big one.
Democracy is supposed to bee free and fair. This was neither.
Are you genuinely suggesting that the fact a referendum happened, is a brexit benefit?
I'm beginning to believe you really don't understand, well i'm not in the mood for bashing my head against a brick wall.
Providing an affirmation of democracy only provides a positive of the process not a positive of the impact of the outcome.
These may seem subtle to you but they are very great differences....
"Not subtle at all, and understand perfectly. Read my earlier comments i have no intention of repeating them | |||
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"Come on Chris..... Help us out here we are still awaiting the positive outcome from the news of a British supermarket chain in Belgium on the verge of closure having had no deliveries since December and Morrison’s and 20 M&S. stores in the EU not receiving good due to mountains of paperwork required. Also the possibility of a large exodus of financial services jobs from London to Europe. We really need to see the all positives of this. You must have at least one..... Brexit is the positive, the rest is all just a mild consequence of that. Some people on here need to get out more ..... Doh!
This is interesting. Aside from the word "brexit" can you elaborate on why brexit itself is positive?
You've heard me quote this before, "will of the people"
How does that relate to brexit? The leave campaigns were based on lies, were illegally funded.
Look at the reasons cite for voting leave. All based on misunderstandings of the EU or flat out lies.
Sounds more like the will of those behind brexit. Who just so happen to be the same people likely to benefit while the rest of us lose out.
And the final point, it was a small minority of the country who voted leave. The majority didn't vote.
You're final point is mute as everyone lives in UK by their own free WILL. Which means abiding by the rules of said nation and the fundamental rule of democracy is the majority vote gets the decision. It was everyone's will.
If you believe a minority voting to make us all less well off is some kind of win. That's fine.
But it's not realistic.
How can people be in so much denial?
We ask this daily when more and more brexit problems move from "project fear" to "is actually happening right now".
It was always gonna happen, never been in doubt. What remainers fail to see is the good side and constantly focus on the bad. Some win an some lose always
We're always asking for the upside. No one has presented anything concrete yet.
There you go again in denial, you have been told many times just by me. The will of the people and Brexit is the positive.
It's the will of the minority of people to make us all less well off based on misinformation and lies?
Yes I deny that this is a brexit positive for most people.
I'm not less well off. Anyone else in here actually less well off because of Brexit? I know of maybe 2 people who comment that all of this has maybe affected. And what we still don't know is if it'll be short term or long.
Less well off as a country. Less taxes collected. Less public money available.
Not only individuals who lost their jobs.
This impacts everyone except the ultra rich.
Impacts everyone, yes in a good way.
Even less people voted remain than voted leave and as for politician lies, you show me any politician who doesn't lie. The wee beastie doesn't exist.
"Impacts everyone in a good way".
Do you have an example?
Reaffirmation that democracy in the UK works, for 1, one very big one.
Democracy is supposed to bee free and fair. This was neither.
Are you genuinely suggesting that the fact a referendum happened, is a brexit benefit?
I'm beginning to believe you really don't understand, well i'm not in the mood for bashing my head against a brick wall.
Providing an affirmation of democracy only provides a positive of the process not a positive of the impact of the outcome.
These may seem subtle to you but they are very great differences....
Not subtle at all, and understand perfectly. Read my earlier comments i have no intention of repeating them"I have read your previous comments and you make references to “will of the people“ which is process and Brexit being a positive outcome but nowhere do you give an actual example of this. | |||
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"Thousands of jobs could be moved from London’s financial districts as banks including Goldman Sachs, JPMorgan, Citigroup and BNP Paribas are continuing to shift staff away from London as part of their Brexit plans, according to conversations with senior bankers and recruiters on the continent (From Financial News) Yay, go brexit" Jobs go there jobs come here you never mention jobs that come to the UK,these things happen as llways did do before Brexit get a grip | |||
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"They just keep on coming..... Peter Cowgill the chairman of JD Sports has said Brexit has turned out to be “considerably worse” than feared Red tape and shipping delays have meant double digit millions in extra costs shipping to Europe. They are looking at opening a distribution centre in Europe to mitigate the problems and would result in UK job losses His comments echo those from other exporters and importers across the UK. Now who can be the first to turn this into a positive.... " Why would anyone try to turn a negative into a positive, live with it. | |||
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"They just keep on coming..... Peter Cowgill the chairman of JD Sports has said Brexit has turned out to be “considerably worse” than feared Red tape and shipping delays have meant double digit millions in extra costs shipping to Europe. They are looking at opening a distribution centre in Europe to mitigate the problems and would result in UK job losses His comments echo those from other exporters and importers across the UK. Now who can be the first to turn this into a positive.... " Don't know if I can even be bothered to look up yet another hysterical remainer non story to be honest | |||
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"They just keep on coming..... Peter Cowgill the chairman of JD Sports has said Brexit has turned out to be “considerably worse” than feared Red tape and shipping delays have meant double digit millions in extra costs shipping to Europe. They are looking at opening a distribution centre in Europe to mitigate the problems and would result in UK job losses His comments echo those from other exporters and importers across the UK. Now who can be the first to turn this into a positive.... Don't know if I can even be bothered to look up yet another hysterical remainer non story to be honest" Millions of pounds in extra costs and potential job loses is a non story ...... I would hate to imagine what in your world would even amount to a story..... | |||
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"https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/business-55997641 Go boris "He's importing from Asia to EU and that's somehow a Brexit problem. I really do wish you guys would read before you post stuff | |||
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"But you'd be disappointed if I didn't so... Ah, he actually announced a strong European expansion on September 10th 2019 including a new European warehouse to support new European stores. Revenue increased 47% to 2.7 billion. Total non story. Actually an export success story. Do you actually check any of these articles before posting them? I'm now keeping a spreadsheet of remainer non stories. I'm convinced some of you are Chinese and Russian spies trying to talk our economy down. " | |||
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"They just keep on coming..... Peter Cowgill the chairman of JD Sports has said Brexit has turned out to be “considerably worse” than feared Red tape and shipping delays have meant double digit millions in extra costs shipping to Europe. They are looking at opening a distribution centre in Europe to mitigate the problems and would result in UK job losses His comments echo those from other exporters and importers across the UK. Now who can be the first to turn this into a positive.... Why would anyone try to turn a negative into a positive, live with it." Make a note of the day and time as you head it here first.... Brexiteer admits it’s actually a negative ... | |||
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"They just keep on coming..... Peter Cowgill the chairman of JD Sports has said Brexit has turned out to be “considerably worse” than feared Red tape and shipping delays have meant double digit millions in extra costs shipping to Europe. They are looking at opening a distribution centre in Europe to mitigate the problems and would result in UK job losses His comments echo those from other exporters and importers across the UK. Now who can be the first to turn this into a positive.... Why would anyone try to turn a negative into a positive, live with it. Make a note of the day and time as you head it here first.... Brexiteer admits it’s actually a negative ... "Read more of my posts 
You'd find i didn't vote leave | |||
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"They just keep on coming..... Peter Cowgill the chairman of JD Sports has said Brexit has turned out to be “considerably worse” than feared Red tape and shipping delays have meant double digit millions in extra costs shipping to Europe. They are looking at opening a distribution centre in Europe to mitigate the problems and would result in UK job losses His comments echo those from other exporters and importers across the UK. Now who can be the first to turn this into a positive.... Why would anyone try to turn a negative into a positive, live with it. Make a note of the day and time as you head it here first.... Brexiteer admits it’s actually a negative ...
Read more of my posts
You'd find i didn't vote leave"How come you didn't vote leave? | |||
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"They just keep on coming..... Peter Cowgill the chairman of JD Sports has said Brexit has turned out to be “considerably worse” than feared Red tape and shipping delays have meant double digit millions in extra costs shipping to Europe. They are looking at opening a distribution centre in Europe to mitigate the problems and would result in UK job losses His comments echo those from other exporters and importers across the UK. Now who can be the first to turn this into a positive.... Why would anyone try to turn a negative into a positive, live with it. Make a note of the day and time as you head it here first.... Brexiteer admits it’s actually a negative ...
Read more of my posts
You'd find i didn't vote leave
How come you didn't vote leave?"That's rather personal isn't it? | |||
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"They just keep on coming..... Peter Cowgill the chairman of JD Sports has said Brexit has turned out to be “considerably worse” than feared Red tape and shipping delays have meant double digit millions in extra costs shipping to Europe. They are looking at opening a distribution centre in Europe to mitigate the problems and would result in UK job losses His comments echo those from other exporters and importers across the UK. Now who can be the first to turn this into a positive.... Why would anyone try to turn a negative into a positive, live with it. Make a note of the day and time as you head it here first.... Brexiteer admits it’s actually a negative ...
Read more of my posts
You'd find i didn't vote leave
How come you didn't vote leave?
That's rather personal isn't it?"Yeah, of course you don't have to answer. Seems unusual for someone who champions brexit despite the overwhelming negatives, to not have voted for it. Just curious. Carry on. | |||
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"But you'd be disappointed if I didn't so... Ah, he actually announced a strong European expansion on September 10th 2019 including a new European warehouse to support new European stores. Revenue increased 47% to 2.7 billion. Total non story. Actually an export success story. Do you actually check any of these articles before posting them? I'm now keeping a spreadsheet of remainer non stories. I'm convinced some of you are Chinese and Russian spies trying to talk our economy down. " Funny how you post a story from 2019 about European expansion yet you criticise the OP for posting a story from the same year.... I would keep a spreadsheet myself on positive Brexit stories but I’ve yet to find one. | |||
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"They just keep on coming..... Peter Cowgill the chairman of JD Sports has said Brexit has turned out to be “considerably worse” than feared Red tape and shipping delays have meant double digit millions in extra costs shipping to Europe. They are looking at opening a distribution centre in Europe to mitigate the problems and would result in UK job losses His comments echo those from other exporters and importers across the UK. Now who can be the first to turn this into a positive.... Why would anyone try to turn a negative into a positive, live with it. Make a note of the day and time as you head it here first.... Brexiteer admits it’s actually a negative ...
Read more of my posts
You'd find i didn't vote leave
How come you didn't vote leave?
That's rather personal isn't it?
Yeah, of course you don't have to answer.
Seems unusual for someone who champions brexit despite the overwhelming negatives, to not have voted for it.
Just curious.
Carry on. "I prefer to think I'm the voice of reason | |||
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"We should play brexit bingo where we get cards with the list things leavers blame for all the problems caused by brexit. It's not a bad idea but I think the rules are wrong. Remainers blame everything on Brexit and Leavers offer alternative reasons. Sure, work away. Haven't seen much of this happening though. This very thread started with a Remainer blaming Brexit for something
This very thread is about the impact of brexit on jobs in the financial industry.
Would have been quite a twist to discuss this without mentioning the cause of these potential job losses."My jobs got busier #BREXIT #LOCKDOWN #IDK BUT MY BOSS IS HAVING TO BUILD MORE BUILDINGS JUST TO GET AHEAD OF THE GAME ..... this is actually quite possibly brexits fault! | |||
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"But you'd be disappointed if I didn't so... Ah, he actually announced a strong European expansion on September 10th 2019 including a new European warehouse to support new European stores. Revenue increased 47% to 2.7 billion. Total non story. Actually an export success story. Do you actually check any of these articles before posting them? I'm now keeping a spreadsheet of remainer non stories. I'm convinced some of you are Chinese and Russian spies trying to talk our economy down. Funny how you post a story from 2019 about European expansion yet you criticise the OP for posting a story from the same year.... I would keep a spreadsheet myself on positive Brexit stories but I’ve yet to find one." Because if you bother to read the story you'll find word for word that his plan for European expansion from September 2019 has been exactly what's happened and his sales have gone up. Which is 180 degrees from posting a witless non story about some remainers prediction about what might happen, and then it doesn't. | |||
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"They just keep on coming..... Peter Cowgill the chairman of JD Sports has said Brexit has turned out to be “considerably worse” than feared Red tape and shipping delays have meant double digit millions in extra costs shipping to Europe. They are looking at opening a distribution centre in Europe to mitigate the problems and would result in UK job losses His comments echo those from other exporters and importers across the UK. Now who can be the first to turn this into a positive.... Why would anyone try to turn a negative into a positive, live with it. Make a note of the day and time as you head it here first.... Brexiteer admits it’s actually a negative ...
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You'd find i didn't vote leave
How come you didn't vote leave?
That's rather personal isn't it?
Yeah, of course you don't have to answer.
Seems unusual for someone who champions brexit despite the overwhelming negatives, to not have voted for it.
Just curious.
Carry on.
I prefer to think I'm the voice of reason "
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"They just keep on coming..... Peter Cowgill the chairman of JD Sports has said Brexit has turned out to be “considerably worse” than feared Red tape and shipping delays have meant double digit millions in extra costs shipping to Europe. They are looking at opening a distribution centre in Europe to mitigate the problems and would result in UK job losses His comments echo those from other exporters and importers across the UK. Now who can be the first to turn this into a positive.... Why would anyone try to turn a negative into a positive, live with it. Make a note of the day and time as you head it here first.... Brexiteer admits it’s actually a negative ...
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You'd find i didn't vote leave
How come you didn't vote leave?
That's rather personal isn't it?
Yeah, of course you don't have to answer.
Seems unusual for someone who champions brexit despite the overwhelming negatives, to not have voted for it.
Just curious.
Carry on.
I prefer to think I'm the voice of reason
I imagine everyone thinks they're the voice of reason. Even captain lobster celebrating micro currency fluctuations."True | |||
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"They just keep on coming..... Peter Cowgill the chairman of JD Sports has said Brexit has turned out to be “considerably worse” than feared Red tape and shipping delays have meant double digit millions in extra costs shipping to Europe. They are looking at opening a distribution centre in Europe to mitigate the problems and would result in UK job losses His comments echo those from other exporters and importers across the UK. Now who can be the first to turn this into a positive.... Why would anyone try to turn a negative into a positive, live with it. Make a note of the day and time as you head it here first.... Brexiteer admits it’s actually a negative ...
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You'd find i didn't vote leave
How come you didn't vote leave?
That's rather personal isn't it?
Yeah, of course you don't have to answer.
Seems unusual for someone who champions brexit despite the overwhelming negatives, to not have voted for it.
Just curious.
Carry on.
I prefer to think I'm the voice of reason
I imagine everyone thinks they're the voice of reason. Even captain lobster celebrating micro currency fluctuations."You'll find I'm usually right | |||
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"They just keep on coming..... Peter Cowgill the chairman of JD Sports has said Brexit has turned out to be “considerably worse” than feared Red tape and shipping delays have meant double digit millions in extra costs shipping to Europe. They are looking at opening a distribution centre in Europe to mitigate the problems and would result in UK job losses His comments echo those from other exporters and importers across the UK. Now who can be the first to turn this into a positive.... Why would anyone try to turn a negative into a positive, live with it. Make a note of the day and time as you head it here first.... Brexiteer admits it’s actually a negative ...
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You'd find i didn't vote leave
How come you didn't vote leave?
That's rather personal isn't it?
Yeah, of course you don't have to answer.
Seems unusual for someone who champions brexit despite the overwhelming negatives, to not have voted for it.
Just curious.
Carry on.
I prefer to think I'm the voice of reason
I imagine everyone thinks they're the voice of reason. Even captain lobster celebrating micro currency fluctuations.
You'll find I'm usually right "And modest. | |||
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"They just keep on coming..... Peter Cowgill the chairman of JD Sports has said Brexit has turned out to be “considerably worse” than feared Red tape and shipping delays have meant double digit millions in extra costs shipping to Europe. They are looking at opening a distribution centre in Europe to mitigate the problems and would result in UK job losses His comments echo those from other exporters and importers across the UK. Now who can be the first to turn this into a positive.... Why would anyone try to turn a negative into a positive, live with it. Make a note of the day and time as you head it here first.... Brexiteer admits it’s actually a negative ...
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You'd find i didn't vote leave
How come you didn't vote leave?
That's rather personal isn't it?
Yeah, of course you don't have to answer.
Seems unusual for someone who champions brexit despite the overwhelming negatives, to not have voted for it.
Just curious.
Carry on.
I prefer to think I'm the voice of reason
I imagine everyone thinks they're the voice of reason. Even captain lobster celebrating micro currency fluctuations.
You'll find I'm usually right
And modest."Thing is you lot find it all very amusing trashing the country talking us down with made up feeble gibberish. Yes even I giggle at some of the absurd claims occasionally. But at a certain point your hysterics really will start costing people their jobs, it's a good deal more serious than you seem to realise. | |||
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"They just keep on coming..... Peter Cowgill the chairman of JD Sports has said Brexit has turned out to be “considerably worse” than feared Red tape and shipping delays have meant double digit millions in extra costs shipping to Europe. They are looking at opening a distribution centre in Europe to mitigate the problems and would result in UK job losses His comments echo those from other exporters and importers across the UK. Now who can be the first to turn this into a positive.... Why would anyone try to turn a negative into a positive, live with it. Make a note of the day and time as you head it here first.... Brexiteer admits it’s actually a negative ...
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You'd find i didn't vote leave
How come you didn't vote leave?
That's rather personal isn't it?
Yeah, of course you don't have to answer.
Seems unusual for someone who champions brexit despite the overwhelming negatives, to not have voted for it.
Just curious.
Carry on.
I prefer to think I'm the voice of reason
I imagine everyone thinks they're the voice of reason. Even captain lobster celebrating micro currency fluctuations.
You'll find I'm usually right "Right about using distraction comments in this forum to not actually answer direct questions. Failure in providing actual examples of positive benefits to support your arguments.....  | |||
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"They just keep on coming..... Peter Cowgill the chairman of JD Sports has said Brexit has turned out to be “considerably worse” than feared Red tape and shipping delays have meant double digit millions in extra costs shipping to Europe. They are looking at opening a distribution centre in Europe to mitigate the problems and would result in UK job losses His comments echo those from other exporters and importers across the UK. Now who can be the first to turn this into a positive.... Why would anyone try to turn a negative into a positive, live with it. Make a note of the day and time as you head it here first.... Brexiteer admits it’s actually a negative ...
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You'd find i didn't vote leave
How come you didn't vote leave?
That's rather personal isn't it?
Yeah, of course you don't have to answer.
Seems unusual for someone who champions brexit despite the overwhelming negatives, to not have voted for it.
Just curious.
Carry on.
I prefer to think I'm the voice of reason
I imagine everyone thinks they're the voice of reason. Even captain lobster celebrating micro currency fluctuations.
You'll find I'm usually right
Right about using distraction comments in this forum to not actually answer direct questions. Failure in providing actual examples of positive benefits to support your arguments..... "I keep very strictly to the thread subjects. This thread title was city job losses. Comprehensively, completely, totally, debunked as utter tosh. Am apology would be appropriate at this point. | |||
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"They just keep on coming..... Peter Cowgill the chairman of JD Sports has said Brexit has turned out to be “considerably worse” than feared Red tape and shipping delays have meant double digit millions in extra costs shipping to Europe. They are looking at opening a distribution centre in Europe to mitigate the problems and would result in UK job losses His comments echo those from other exporters and importers across the UK. Now who can be the first to turn this into a positive.... Why would anyone try to turn a negative into a positive, live with it. Make a note of the day and time as you head it here first.... Brexiteer admits it’s actually a negative ...
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You'd find i didn't vote leave
How come you didn't vote leave?
That's rather personal isn't it?
Yeah, of course you don't have to answer.
Seems unusual for someone who champions brexit despite the overwhelming negatives, to not have voted for it.
Just curious.
Carry on.
I prefer to think I'm the voice of reason
I imagine everyone thinks they're the voice of reason. Even captain lobster celebrating micro currency fluctuations.
You'll find I'm usually right
And modest.
Thing is you lot find it all very amusing trashing the country talking us down with made up feeble gibberish.
Yes even I giggle at some of the absurd claims occasionally. But at a certain point your hysterics really will start costing people their jobs, it's a good deal more serious than you seem to realise. "Hold on a sec, you voted to trash the country. Then accuse others of talking it down. When all we're doing is pointing out the fall out from what you voted for. You voted for these job losses and to put British businesses at risk. I know we joke about brexiteers blaming everything except brexit. But really. Have a think about what you're saying. | |||
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"They just keep on coming..... Peter Cowgill the chairman of JD Sports has said Brexit has turned out to be “considerably worse” than feared Red tape and shipping delays have meant double digit millions in extra costs shipping to Europe. They are looking at opening a distribution centre in Europe to mitigate the problems and would result in UK job losses His comments echo those from other exporters and importers across the UK. Now who can be the first to turn this into a positive.... Why would anyone try to turn a negative into a positive, live with it. Make a note of the day and time as you head it here first.... Brexiteer admits it’s actually a negative ...
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You'd find i didn't vote leave
How come you didn't vote leave?
That's rather personal isn't it?
Yeah, of course you don't have to answer.
Seems unusual for someone who champions brexit despite the overwhelming negatives, to not have voted for it.
Just curious.
Carry on.
I prefer to think I'm the voice of reason
I imagine everyone thinks they're the voice of reason. Even captain lobster celebrating micro currency fluctuations.
You'll find I'm usually right
Right about using distraction comments in this forum to not actually answer direct questions. Failure in providing actual examples of positive benefits to support your arguments.....
I keep very strictly to the thread subjects. This thread title was city job losses.
Comprehensively, completely, totally, debunked as utter tosh.
Am apology would be appropriate at this point. "Funny you say that ... Clearly have some form of short term memory loss as in the “Future of the Union” thread you went distinctly off topic referencing British Empire and crown dependencies.. Which was not what the thread question was about... That’s just one example.... That was not the first time you have gone off topic or used distraction comments to avoid giving direct answers. | |||
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"Also quick food for thought If everyone stopped bitching and moaning about brexit and worked together to get it done maybe it would have turned out better but EU probably seen us all fighting ammongst our selfs and thought fuck it make them sweat and give them nothing " Like Farage and his supporters when we were in the EU?  | |||
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"They just keep on coming..... Peter Cowgill the chairman of JD Sports has said Brexit has turned out to be “considerably worse” than feared Red tape and shipping delays have meant double digit millions in extra costs shipping to Europe. They are looking at opening a distribution centre in Europe to mitigate the problems and would result in UK job losses His comments echo those from other exporters and importers across the UK. Now who can be the first to turn this into a positive.... Why would anyone try to turn a negative into a positive, live with it. Make a note of the day and time as you head it here first.... Brexiteer admits it’s actually a negative ...
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You'd find i didn't vote leave
How come you didn't vote leave?
That's rather personal isn't it?
Yeah, of course you don't have to answer.
Seems unusual for someone who champions brexit despite the overwhelming negatives, to not have voted for it.
Just curious.
Carry on.
I prefer to think I'm the voice of reason
I imagine everyone thinks they're the voice of reason. Even captain lobster celebrating micro currency fluctuations.
You'll find I'm usually right
Right about using distraction comments in this forum to not actually answer direct questions. Failure in providing actual examples of positive benefits to support your arguments.....
I keep very strictly to the thread subjects. This thread title was city job losses.
Comprehensively, completely, totally, debunked as utter tosh.
Am apology would be appropriate at this point. "Firstly, job losses in the city due to brexit have not been debunked or any such thing. Feel free to apologise, it would seem appropriate. | |||
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"There are currently 38000 job vacancies in the City of London " There’s always 38, 000 job vacancies in London , mainly due to 37, 500 of those jobs don’t cover the bleeding rent !!! | |||
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"They just keep on coming..... Peter Cowgill the chairman of JD Sports has said Brexit has turned out to be “considerably worse” than feared Red tape and shipping delays have meant double digit millions in extra costs shipping to Europe. They are looking at opening a distribution centre in Europe to mitigate the problems and would result in UK job losses His comments echo those from other exporters and importers across the UK. Now who can be the first to turn this into a positive.... " I'm not sure why jd opening a distribution centre in Europe would create UK job losses? Jd sports do very good business in the UK? And also, I'm not sure why a sports retailer with shops in the UK, Europe, the US, Asia and Australia would not already have distribution centres set up in all of those places? If they didn't, then that is their shortfall, as a huge business you'd think they'd have a better system, if they do then the story is a lie. Who knows, maybe in Europe they won't get investigated for their shitty work conditions like they have been in the UK? | |||
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"They just keep on coming..... Peter Cowgill the chairman of JD Sports has said Brexit has turned out to be “considerably worse” than feared Red tape and shipping delays have meant double digit millions in extra costs shipping to Europe. They are looking at opening a distribution centre in Europe to mitigate the problems and would result in UK job losses His comments echo those from other exporters and importers across the UK. Now who can be the first to turn this into a positive.... Don't know if I can even be bothered to look up yet another hysterical remainer non story to be honest Millions of pounds in extra costs and potential job loses is a non story ...... I would hate to imagine what in your world would even amount to a story....." For a company that big, with that amount of global reach, not already having distribution centres on all the continents they do business on is a huge business error. | |||
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"We should play brexit bingo where we get cards with the list things leavers blame for all the problems caused by brexit. It's not a bad idea but I think the rules are wrong. Remainers blame everything on Brexit and Leavers offer alternative reasons. Sure, work away. Haven't seen much of this happening though. This very thread started with a Remainer blaming Brexit for something
This very thread is about the impact of brexit on jobs in the financial industry.
Would have been quite a twist to discuss this without mentioning the cause of these potential job losses.
But 1000 firms are coming the other way if you believe the reports. I don't see any Remainer posting about that.
The fact is Remainers will continue to post 'bad things' about Brexit and Leavers will continue to post 'good things' about Brexit.
Both sides will continue to argue and then eventually it'll get less and less, eventually we will go back to actually talking about all the other things that happen with politics."I’ll post about it. To help as we’ve done it. The firms coming the other way are looking for fiscal representation purely for imports into the U.K. so they need to open a bank account and pay an auditor. It’s to claim vat back and to clear products using a U.K. vat number. They will not need to employ anyone. The companies moving to the EU need to import into the EU the same as I just said in reverse. However they also need distribution facilities to onward sell to the rest of Europe to avoid tariffs. JD sports are an example of looking into opening a new facility in Europe risking jobs in Rochdale. Jobs are being created in Europe to cope. There are no benefits financially to Brexit. It is all added direct costs and admin costs. From small to enormous but always additional. | |||
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"We should play brexit bingo where we get cards with the list things leavers blame for all the problems caused by brexit." Exactly the vote was had now honour it wether you like it or not. | |||
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"They just keep on coming..... Peter Cowgill the chairman of JD Sports has said Brexit has turned out to be “considerably worse” than feared Red tape and shipping delays have meant double digit millions in extra costs shipping to Europe. They are looking at opening a distribution centre in Europe to mitigate the problems and would result in UK job losses His comments echo those from other exporters and importers across the UK. Now who can be the first to turn this into a positive.... I'm not sure why jd opening a distribution centre in Europe would create UK job losses? Jd sports do very good business in the UK? And also, I'm not sure why a sports retailer with shops in the UK, Europe, the US, Asia and Australia would not already have distribution centres set up in all of those places? If they didn't, then that is their shortfall, as a huge business you'd think they'd have a better system, if they do then the story is a lie. Who knows, maybe in Europe they won't get investigated for their shitty work conditions like they have been in the UK? " Because JD use the U.K. as a distribution centre for all of Europe. Understand that? If they can’t export onwards from the U.K. without tariffs to Europe. Then they bypass the U.K. and the jobs to receive pick pack and ship will move to the EU. It’s very simple maths. It’s saves them money because of the new costs added because of Brexit. No idea what their working conditions are but feel free to ask those who lose their jobs how they feel. | |||
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"On the JD Sports issue: “The group always expect that, for operational purposes, a European warehouse would be required sometime after 2021 with the risks associated with Brexit bringing this decision forward,” Cowgill said. “We are working with our logistics partners to secure an additional 80,000 square foot of space at a facility in Belgium which will provide us sufficient capacity to process launch product for footwear for the key brands.” So why is he now making out like it's all a shock? He seen it coming so shouldn't be an issue. " How about he saw it coming and he also knew it would cost uk jobs. But we voted for this madness so now it’s ok and not an issue. We are losing jobs due to Brexit and it’s not an issue?.?? Is that what you’re saying? | |||
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"On the JD Sports issue: “The group always expect that, for operational purposes, a European warehouse would be required sometime after 2021 with the risks associated with Brexit bringing this decision forward,” Cowgill said. “We are working with our logistics partners to secure an additional 80,000 square foot of space at a facility in Belgium which will provide us sufficient capacity to process launch product for footwear for the key brands.” So why is he now making out like it's all a shock? He seen it coming so shouldn't be an issue. How about he saw it coming and he also knew it would cost uk jobs. But we voted for this madness so now it’s ok and not an issue. We are losing jobs due to Brexit and it’s not an issue?.?? Is that what you’re saying?" I didn't say the job losses weren't an issue but why is he bleating about it when he foreseen it? Why didn't they get this done sooner? | |||
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"On the JD Sports issue: “The group always expect that, for operational purposes, a European warehouse would be required sometime after 2021 with the risks associated with Brexit bringing this decision forward,” Cowgill said. “We are working with our logistics partners to secure an additional 80,000 square foot of space at a facility in Belgium which will provide us sufficient capacity to process launch product for footwear for the key brands.” So why is he now making out like it's all a shock? He seen it coming so shouldn't be an issue. " The solution is far simpler than all of his huffing and puffing about brexit ... i wonder why he is making such a big fuss about it
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"On the JD Sports issue: “The group always expect that, for operational purposes, a European warehouse would be required sometime after 2021 with the risks associated with Brexit bringing this decision forward,” Cowgill said. “We are working with our logistics partners to secure an additional 80,000 square foot of space at a facility in Belgium which will provide us sufficient capacity to process launch product for footwear for the key brands.” So why is he now making out like it's all a shock? He seen it coming so shouldn't be an issue. How about he saw it coming and he also knew it would cost uk jobs. But we voted for this madness so now it’s ok and not an issue. We are losing jobs due to Brexit and it’s not an issue?.?? Is that what you’re saying? I didn't say the job losses weren't an issue but why is he bleating about it when he foreseen it? Why didn't they get this done sooner?" Because maybe he was under the impression we had a tariff free oven ready deal . We got our procedure on customs in the 24th December (no mention of VAT procedures or tariffs) and I’m sure his business scale is enormous compared to us so how did he plan please tell me? I don’t think people realise how last min this all was . It’s a complete mess out there . It will calm down I’m sure but the jobs will start to move I believe when big business works out where they are better off. Nissan and Toyota etc will be getting cash to stay so will use that to offset the costs . The rest of business will have to make a choice. . | |||
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"On the JD Sports issue: “The group always expect that, for operational purposes, a European warehouse would be required sometime after 2021 with the risks associated with Brexit bringing this decision forward,” Cowgill said. “We are working with our logistics partners to secure an additional 80,000 square foot of space at a facility in Belgium which will provide us sufficient capacity to process launch product for footwear for the key brands.” So why is he now making out like it's all a shock? He seen it coming so shouldn't be an issue. How about he saw it coming and he also knew it would cost uk jobs. But we voted for this madness so now it’s ok and not an issue. We are losing jobs due to Brexit and it’s not an issue?.?? Is that what you’re saying? I didn't say the job losses weren't an issue but why is he bleating about it when he foreseen it? Why didn't they get this done sooner? Because maybe he was under the impression we had a tariff free oven ready deal . We got our procedure on customs in the 24th December (no mention of VAT procedures or tariffs) and I’m sure his business scale is enormous compared to us so how did he plan please tell me? I don’t think people realise how last min this all was . It’s a complete mess out there . It will calm down I’m sure but the jobs will start to move I believe when big business works out where they are better off. Nissan and Toyota etc will be getting cash to stay so will use that to offset the costs . The rest of business will have to make a choice. . " He said this 5 months ago... | |||
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"On the JD Sports issue: “The group always expect that, for operational purposes, a European warehouse would be required sometime after 2021 with the risks associated with Brexit bringing this decision forward,” Cowgill said. “We are working with our logistics partners to secure an additional 80,000 square foot of space at a facility in Belgium which will provide us sufficient capacity to process launch product for footwear for the key brands.” So why is he now making out like it's all a shock? He seen it coming so shouldn't be an issue. The solution is far simpler than all of his huffing and puffing about brexit ... i wonder why he is making such a big fuss about it
"He employs a lot of people so it’s better if he’s just says fuck you and let’s people lose their jobs. He’s built up a business through hard work of his own and his staff and Brexit is leading to jobs moving away through no choice of theirs. What a reward Brexit is for those who will eventually lose their jobs. | |||
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"On the JD Sports issue: “The group always expect that, for operational purposes, a European warehouse would be required sometime after 2021 with the risks associated with Brexit bringing this decision forward,” Cowgill said. “We are working with our logistics partners to secure an additional 80,000 square foot of space at a facility in Belgium which will provide us sufficient capacity to process launch product for footwear for the key brands.” So why is he now making out like it's all a shock? He seen it coming so shouldn't be an issue. How about he saw it coming and he also knew it would cost uk jobs. But we voted for this madness so now it’s ok and not an issue. We are losing jobs due to Brexit and it’s not an issue?.?? Is that what you’re saying? I didn't say the job losses weren't an issue but why is he bleating about it when he foreseen it? Why didn't they get this done sooner? Because maybe he was under the impression we had a tariff free oven ready deal . We got our procedure on customs in the 24th December (no mention of VAT procedures or tariffs) and I’m sure his business scale is enormous compared to us so how did he plan please tell me? I don’t think people realise how last min this all was . It’s a complete mess out there . It will calm down I’m sure but the jobs will start to move I believe when big business works out where they are better off. Nissan and Toyota etc will be getting cash to stay so will use that to offset the costs . The rest of business will have to make a choice. . He said this 5 months ago..." Yes as I did and I didn’t know the answer then either . We were told tariff free remember. | |||
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"Businesses come and go. Who really gives a toss about the poor multi national chain shops? " The people that pay their mortgages working there perhaps ? | |||
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"On the JD Sports issue: “The group always expect that, for operational purposes, a European warehouse would be required sometime after 2021 with the risks associated with Brexit bringing this decision forward,” Cowgill said. “We are working with our logistics partners to secure an additional 80,000 square foot of space at a facility in Belgium which will provide us sufficient capacity to process launch product for footwear for the key brands.” So why is he now making out like it's all a shock? He seen it coming so shouldn't be an issue. How about he saw it coming and he also knew it would cost uk jobs. But we voted for this madness so now it’s ok and not an issue. We are losing jobs due to Brexit and it’s not an issue?.?? Is that what you’re saying? I didn't say the job losses weren't an issue but why is he bleating about it when he foreseen it? Why didn't they get this done sooner? Because maybe he was under the impression we had a tariff free oven ready deal . We got our procedure on customs in the 24th December (no mention of VAT procedures or tariffs) and I’m sure his business scale is enormous compared to us so how did he plan please tell me? I don’t think people realise how last min this all was . It’s a complete mess out there . It will calm down I’m sure but the jobs will start to move I believe when big business works out where they are better off. Nissan and Toyota etc will be getting cash to stay so will use that to offset the costs . The rest of business will have to make a choice. . He said this 5 months ago... Yes as I did and I didn’t know the answer then either . We were told tariff free remember. " That's the point. He knew the answer. Just decided not to make it happen for whatever reason. The answer hasn't changed. | |||
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"Businesses come and go. Who really gives a toss about the poor multi national chain shops? The people that pay their mortgages working there perhaps ? "Ye reckon? | |||
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"On the JD Sports issue: “The group always expect that, for operational purposes, a European warehouse would be required sometime after 2021 with the risks associated with Brexit bringing this decision forward,” Cowgill said. “We are working with our logistics partners to secure an additional 80,000 square foot of space at a facility in Belgium which will provide us sufficient capacity to process launch product for footwear for the key brands.” So why is he now making out like it's all a shock? He seen it coming so shouldn't be an issue. The solution is far simpler than all of his huffing and puffing about brexit ... i wonder why he is making such a big fuss about it
He employs a lot of people so it’s better if he’s just says fuck you and let’s people lose their jobs. He’s built up a business through hard work of his own and his staff and Brexit is leading to jobs moving away through no choice of theirs.
What a reward Brexit is for those who will eventually lose their jobs.
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"On the JD Sports issue: “The group always expect that, for operational purposes, a European warehouse would be required sometime after 2021 with the risks associated with Brexit bringing this decision forward,” Cowgill said. “We are working with our logistics partners to secure an additional 80,000 square foot of space at a facility in Belgium which will provide us sufficient capacity to process launch product for footwear for the key brands.” So why is he now making out like it's all a shock? He seen it coming so shouldn't be an issue. The solution is far simpler than all of his huffing and puffing about brexit ... i wonder why he is making such a big fuss about it
He employs a lot of people so it’s better if he’s just says fuck you and let’s people lose their jobs. He’s built up a business through hard work of his own and his staff and Brexit is leading to jobs moving away through no choice of theirs.
What a reward Brexit is for those who will eventually lose their jobs.
Is he closing jd sports in the U.K?
If he isn’t then his Far East imports are still coming into U.K. - and as he states - Rochdale operations not affected - so no job losses .
"Think it through tariffs or no tariffs which is cheaper ? If there is less to do in Rochdale it’s only a matter of time. A thousand jobs is a lot to create from nothing so the work must come from somewhere. He’s not doubling his sales especially not at the min. He’s angling for subsidy first I’m sure as he’s no idiot | |||
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"On the JD Sports issue: “The group always expect that, for operational purposes, a European warehouse would be required sometime after 2021 with the risks associated with Brexit bringing this decision forward,” Cowgill said. “We are working with our logistics partners to secure an additional 80,000 square foot of space at a facility in Belgium which will provide us sufficient capacity to process launch product for footwear for the key brands.” So why is he now making out like it's all a shock? He seen it coming so shouldn't be an issue. The solution is far simpler than all of his huffing and puffing about brexit ... i wonder why he is making such a big fuss about it
He employs a lot of people so it’s better if he’s just says fuck you and let’s people lose their jobs. He’s built up a business through hard work of his own and his staff and Brexit is leading to jobs moving away through no choice of theirs.
What a reward Brexit is for those who will eventually lose their jobs.
Is he closing jd sports in the U.K?
If he isn’t then his Far East imports are still coming into U.K. - and as he states - Rochdale operations not affected - so no job losses .
Think it through tariffs or no tariffs which is cheaper ?
If there is less to do in Rochdale it’s only a matter of time. A thousand jobs is a lot to create from nothing so the work must come from somewhere. He’s not doubling his sales especially not at the min.
He’s angling for subsidy first I’m sure as he’s no idiot "So the guy who runs the 6b business says there will be no changes to Rochdale and you know differently? BTW, his revenue was up 30% last year on 2019. That's a big jump. | |||
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"On the JD Sports issue: “The group always expect that, for operational purposes, a European warehouse would be required sometime after 2021 with the risks associated with Brexit bringing this decision forward,” Cowgill said. “We are working with our logistics partners to secure an additional 80,000 square foot of space at a facility in Belgium which will provide us sufficient capacity to process launch product for footwear for the key brands.” So why is he now making out like it's all a shock? He seen it coming so shouldn't be an issue. The solution is far simpler than all of his huffing and puffing about brexit ... i wonder why he is making such a big fuss about it
He employs a lot of people so it’s better if he’s just says fuck you and let’s people lose their jobs. He’s built up a business through hard work of his own and his staff and Brexit is leading to jobs moving away through no choice of theirs.
What a reward Brexit is for those who will eventually lose their jobs.
Is he closing jd sports in the U.K?
If he isn’t then his Far East imports are still coming into U.K. - and as he states - Rochdale operations not affected - so no job losses .
Think it through tariffs or no tariffs which is cheaper ?
If there is less to do in Rochdale it’s only a matter of time. A thousand jobs is a lot to create from nothing so the work must come from somewhere. He’s not doubling his sales especially not at the min.
He’s angling for subsidy first I’m sure as he’s no idiot
So the guy who runs the 6b business says there will be no changes to Rochdale and you know differently?
BTW, his revenue was up 30% last year on 2019. That's a big jump."I didn’t say he was struggling he’s very successful. And all that trade went through Rochdale ? So why is he even mentioning a new warehouse if all’s well with the world . Big business is rarely vocal about job losses as we all now. He’s not doubling up he’s moving the imports to the EU if he goes ahead to cut out tariffs . Or should he stay and pay the tariffs ? He’s not rich by being careless with cash. | |||
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"On the JD Sports issue: “The group always expect that, for operational purposes, a European warehouse would be required sometime after 2021 with the risks associated with Brexit bringing this decision forward,” Cowgill said. “We are working with our logistics partners to secure an additional 80,000 square foot of space at a facility in Belgium which will provide us sufficient capacity to process launch product for footwear for the key brands.” So why is he now making out like it's all a shock? He seen it coming so shouldn't be an issue. The solution is far simpler than all of his huffing and puffing about brexit ... i wonder why he is making such a big fuss about it
He employs a lot of people so it’s better if he’s just says fuck you and let’s people lose their jobs. He’s built up a business through hard work of his own and his staff and Brexit is leading to jobs moving away through no choice of theirs.
What a reward Brexit is for those who will eventually lose their jobs.
Is he closing jd sports in the U.K?
If he isn’t then his Far East imports are still coming into U.K. - and as he states - Rochdale operations not affected - so no job losses .
Think it through tariffs or no tariffs which is cheaper ?
If there is less to do in Rochdale it’s only a matter of time. A thousand jobs is a lot to create from nothing so the work must come from somewhere. He’s not doubling his sales especially not at the min.
He’s angling for subsidy first I’m sure as he’s no idiot
So the guy who runs the 6b business says there will be no changes to Rochdale and you know differently?
BTW, his revenue was up 30% last year on 2019. That's a big jump.
I didn’t say he was struggling he’s very successful.
And all that trade went through Rochdale ?
So why is he even mentioning a new warehouse if all’s well with the world .
Big business is rarely vocal about job losses as we all now.
He’s not doubling up he’s moving the imports to the EU if he goes ahead to cut out tariffs . Or should he stay and pay the tariffs ?
He’s not rich by being careless with cash.
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"Forgot to mention all major online is up on revenue so he’s doing well on sales as they all are. Doesn’t seem happy with his shops though so maybe that’s the money he wants back to his margin . You do know turnover isn’t profit of course . " I'm well aware that turnover isn't profit. Maybe his shops are closed just like every other non-essential. I mean he's lucky to have a decent presence online. Something which most smaller retailers don't have. Maybe they should all ask for their money back too | |||
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"Businesses come and go. Who really gives a toss about the poor multi national chain shops? " They should have that as a Tory motto. | |||
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"This is a consequence of allowing politicians, and not very good ones, determine business policy. The deal is turning out to be a bad one all round, and I struggle to see how anyone on our side haa agreed to this. Late and botched, just to save political face. Its incompetent at its very worst. " Everything is with the headlines with johnson. He couldn't give a fuck about the details. | |||
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"Forgot to mention all major online is up on revenue so he’s doing well on sales as they all are. Doesn’t seem happy with his shops though so maybe that’s the money he wants back to his margin . You do know turnover isn’t profit of course . I'm well aware that turnover isn't profit. Maybe his shops are closed just like every other non-essential. I mean he's lucky to have a decent presence online. Something which most smaller retailers don't have. Maybe they should all ask for their money back too "They can’t get through to Boris to ask but amazingly Rupert Murdoch has regular meetings lately. Why is that during Covid that the PM needs so many meeting s with a media mogul? Murdoch didn’t need furlough I don’t think . | |||
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"This is a consequence of allowing politicians, and not very good ones, determine business policy. The deal is turning out to be a bad one all round, and I struggle to see how anyone on our side haa agreed to this. Late and botched, just to save political face. Its incompetent at its very worst. Everything is with the headlines with johnson. He couldn't give a fuck about the details." The devil is always in the detail. Sooner or later, tough questions are going to be asked of him. | |||
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"I’m sure once the UK have a very attractive tax rate for any companies that are able to work from the UK most of those companies will come back & more besides. Europe doesn’t want a Singapore on its coast but that’s what they will force the UK to do, then there will be loads of moaning going on on the politics threads lol x. " Look at Singapore in detail We don’t want to be a Singapore either . It’s shit for most of the population . | |||
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"This is a consequence of allowing politicians, and not very good ones, determine business policy. The deal is turning out to be a bad one all round, and I struggle to see how anyone on our side haa agreed to this. Late and botched, just to save political face. Its incompetent at its very worst. Everything is with the headlines with johnson. He couldn't give a fuck about the details. The devil is always in the detail. Sooner or later, tough questions are going to be asked of him. " He has spent his life doing ..its all bluster. I'm amazed this is even a surprise to anyone. When they penny finally drops..going by here it will be a long way yet..they will jettison him and he will carry the can. | |||
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"On the JD Sports issue: “The group always expect that, for operational purposes, a European warehouse would be required sometime after 2021 with the risks associated with Brexit bringing this decision forward,” Cowgill said. “We are working with our logistics partners to secure an additional 80,000 square foot of space at a facility in Belgium which will provide us sufficient capacity to process launch product for footwear for the key brands.” So why is he now making out like it's all a shock? He seen it coming so shouldn't be an issue. The solution is far simpler than all of his huffing and puffing about brexit ... i wonder why he is making such a big fuss about it
He employs a lot of people so it’s better if he’s just says fuck you and let’s people lose their jobs. He’s built up a business through hard work of his own and his staff and Brexit is leading to jobs moving away through no choice of theirs.
What a reward Brexit is for those who will eventually lose their jobs.
Is he closing jd sports in the U.K?
If he isn’t then his Far East imports are still coming into U.K. - and as he states - Rochdale operations not affected - so no job losses .
Think it through tariffs or no tariffs which is cheaper ?
If there is less to do in Rochdale it’s only a matter of time. A thousand jobs is a lot to create from nothing so the work must come from somewhere. He’s not doubling his sales especially not at the min.
He’s angling for subsidy first I’m sure as he’s no idiot
So the guy who runs the 6b business says there will be no changes to Rochdale and you know differently?
BTW, his revenue was up 30% last year on 2019. That's a big jump.
I didn’t say he was struggling he’s very successful.
And all that trade went through Rochdale ?
So why is he even mentioning a new warehouse if all’s well with the world .
Big business is rarely vocal about job losses as we all now.
He’s not doubling up he’s moving the imports to the EU if he goes ahead to cut out tariffs . Or should he stay and pay the tariffs ?
He’s not rich by being careless with cash.
This is where it gets silly.
You're astounded that people won't believe there will be no job losses. Yet we're supposed to believe every statement saying there will be losses. You can't have it both ways."I don’t say they didn’t believe I said they don’t seem to care. Accepting the worst of a deal as it’s just fine. You admit he’s a successful man so if all going well why does he feel the need to mention it ? It’s not painting him in a good light to employ in the EU over the U.K. . | |||
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"Forgot to mention all major online is up on revenue so he’s doing well on sales as they all are. Doesn’t seem happy with his shops though so maybe that’s the money he wants back to his margin . You do know turnover isn’t profit of course . I'm well aware that turnover isn't profit. Maybe his shops are closed just like every other non-essential. I mean he's lucky to have a decent presence online. Something which most smaller retailers don't have. Maybe they should all ask for their money back too
They can’t get through to Boris to ask but amazingly Rupert Murdoch has regular meetings lately.
Why is that during Covid that the PM needs so many meeting s with a media mogul?
Murdoch didn’t need furlough I don’t think . "Non story apparently | |||
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"I’m sure once the UK have a very attractive tax rate for any companies that are able to work from the UK most of those companies will come back & more besides. Europe doesn’t want a Singapore on its coast but that’s what they will force the UK to do, then there will be loads of moaning going on on the politics threads lol x. Look at Singapore in detail We don’t want to be a Singapore either . It’s shit for most of the population . " Sweat shop conditions and pitiful wages? A torys wet dream | |||
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"On the JD Sports issue: “The group always expect that, for operational purposes, a European warehouse would be required sometime after 2021 with the risks associated with Brexit bringing this decision forward,” Cowgill said. “We are working with our logistics partners to secure an additional 80,000 square foot of space at a facility in Belgium which will provide us sufficient capacity to process launch product for footwear for the key brands.” So why is he now making out like it's all a shock? He seen it coming so shouldn't be an issue. The solution is far simpler than all of his huffing and puffing about brexit ... i wonder why he is making such a big fuss about it
He employs a lot of people so it’s better if he’s just says fuck you and let’s people lose their jobs. He’s built up a business through hard work of his own and his staff and Brexit is leading to jobs moving away through no choice of theirs.
What a reward Brexit is for those who will eventually lose their jobs.
Is he closing jd sports in the U.K?
If he isn’t then his Far East imports are still coming into U.K. - and as he states - Rochdale operations not affected - so no job losses .
Think it through tariffs or no tariffs which is cheaper ?
If there is less to do in Rochdale it’s only a matter of time. A thousand jobs is a lot to create from nothing so the work must come from somewhere. He’s not doubling his sales especially not at the min.
He’s angling for subsidy first I’m sure as he’s no idiot
So the guy who runs the 6b business says there will be no changes to Rochdale and you know differently?
BTW, his revenue was up 30% last year on 2019. That's a big jump.
I didn’t say he was struggling he’s very successful.
And all that trade went through Rochdale ?
So why is he even mentioning a new warehouse if all’s well with the world .
Big business is rarely vocal about job losses as we all now.
He’s not doubling up he’s moving the imports to the EU if he goes ahead to cut out tariffs . Or should he stay and pay the tariffs ?
He’s not rich by being careless with cash.
This is where it gets silly.
You're astounded that people won't believe there will be no job losses. Yet we're supposed to believe every statement saying there will be losses. You can't have it both ways.
I don’t say they didn’t believe I said they don’t seem to care. Accepting the worst of a deal as it’s just fine.
You admit he’s a successful man so if all going well why does he feel the need to mention it ? It’s not painting him in a good light to employ in the EU over the U.K. . "You said the ever growing list of losses seem to be dismissed. Because half of them are bullshit and haven't actually happened. The guy has said there will be no losses and here we have people up in arms because he must be lying. | |||
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"I’m sure once the UK have a very attractive tax rate for any companies that are able to work from the UK most of those companies will come back & more besides. Europe doesn’t want a Singapore on its coast but that’s what they will force the UK to do, then there will be loads of moaning going on on the politics threads lol x. Look at Singapore in detail We don’t want to be a Singapore either . It’s shit for most of the population . Sweat shop conditions and pitiful wages? A torys wet dream" Just like JD Sports then | |||
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"They just keep on coming..... Peter Cowgill the chairman of JD Sports has said Brexit has turned out to be “considerably worse” than feared Red tape and shipping delays have meant double digit millions in extra costs shipping to Europe. They are looking at opening a distribution centre in Europe to mitigate the problems and would result in UK job losses His comments echo those from other exporters and importers across the UK. Now who can be the first to turn this into a positive.... I'm not sure why jd opening a distribution centre in Europe would create UK job losses? Jd sports do very good business in the UK? And also, I'm not sure why a sports retailer with shops in the UK, Europe, the US, Asia and Australia would not already have distribution centres set up in all of those places? If they didn't, then that is their shortfall, as a huge business you'd think they'd have a better system, if they do then the story is a lie. Who knows, maybe in Europe they won't get investigated for their shitty work conditions like they have been in the UK? Because JD use the U.K. as a distribution centre for all of Europe. Understand that? If they can’t export onwards from the U.K. without tariffs to Europe. Then they bypass the U.K. and the jobs to receive pick pack and ship will move to the EU. It’s very simple maths. It’s saves them money because of the new costs added because of Brexit. No idea what their working conditions are but feel free to ask those who lose their jobs how they feel." Thats just stupid business really, if you have a global brand you should have global distribution points, what is the point in having people able to buy things in Australia and not having the ability to cut shipping costs by having a distribution centre nearer? | |||
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"On the JD Sports issue: “The group always expect that, for operational purposes, a European warehouse would be required sometime after 2021 with the risks associated with Brexit bringing this decision forward,” Cowgill said. “We are working with our logistics partners to secure an additional 80,000 square foot of space at a facility in Belgium which will provide us sufficient capacity to process launch product for footwear for the key brands.” So why is he now making out like it's all a shock? He seen it coming so shouldn't be an issue. How about he saw it coming and he also knew it would cost uk jobs. But we voted for this madness so now it’s ok and not an issue. We are losing jobs due to Brexit and it’s not an issue?.?? Is that what you’re saying? I didn't say the job losses weren't an issue but why is he bleating about it when he foreseen it? Why didn't they get this done sooner? Because maybe he was under the impression we had a tariff free oven ready deal . We got our procedure on customs in the 24th December (no mention of VAT procedures or tariffs) and I’m sure his business scale is enormous compared to us so how did he plan please tell me? I don’t think people realise how last min this all was . It’s a complete mess out there . It will calm down I’m sure but the jobs will start to move I believe when big business works out where they are better off. Nissan and Toyota etc will be getting cash to stay so will use that to offset the costs . The rest of business will have to make a choice. . " Businesses that size plan 10, 15, 20 years ahead. Primark prepared for us failing to leave the EU and being held to ransom over the attempt by having UK designated stock partially price tagged in ukp and partially in euros. They hedged their bets properly. Jd are a global brand and should foresee the possibilities and prepare. | |||
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"But you'd be disappointed if I didn't so... Ah, he actually announced a strong European expansion on September 10th 2019 including a new European warehouse to support new European stores. Revenue increased 47% to 2.7 billion. Total non story. Actually an export success story. Do you actually check any of these articles before posting them? I'm now keeping a spreadsheet of remainer non stories. I'm convinced some of you are Chinese and Russian spies trying to talk our economy down. " | |||
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"I’m sure once the UK have a very attractive tax rate for any companies that are able to work from the UK most of those companies will come back & more besides. Europe doesn’t want a Singapore on its coast but that’s what they will force the UK to do, then there will be loads of moaning going on on the politics threads lol x. Look at Singapore in detail We don’t want to be a Singapore either . It’s shit for most of the population . Sweat shop conditions and pitiful wages? A torys wet dream" No your perverted mind | |||
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"I’m sure once the UK have a very attractive tax rate for any companies that are able to work from the UK most of those companies will come back & more besides. Europe doesn’t want a Singapore on its coast but that’s what they will force the UK to do, then there will be loads of moaning going on on the politics threads lol x. Look at Singapore in detail We don’t want to be a Singapore either . It’s shit for most of the population . Sweat shop conditions and pitiful wages? A torys wet dreamNo your perverted mind" 
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"On the JD Sports issue: “The group always expect that, for operational purposes, a European warehouse would be required sometime after 2021 with the risks associated with Brexit bringing this decision forward,” Cowgill said. “We are working with our logistics partners to secure an additional 80,000 square foot of space at a facility in Belgium which will provide us sufficient capacity to process launch product for footwear for the key brands.” So why is he now making out like it's all a shock? He seen it coming so shouldn't be an issue. How about he saw it coming and he also knew it would cost uk jobs. But we voted for this madness so now it’s ok and not an issue. We are losing jobs due to Brexit and it’s not an issue?.?? Is that what you’re saying? I didn't say the job losses weren't an issue but why is he bleating about it when he foreseen it? Why didn't they get this done sooner? Because maybe he was under the impression we had a tariff free oven ready deal . We got our procedure on customs in the 24th December (no mention of VAT procedures or tariffs) and I’m sure his business scale is enormous compared to us so how did he plan please tell me? I don’t think people realise how last min this all was . It’s a complete mess out there . It will calm down I’m sure but the jobs will start to move I believe when big business works out where they are better off. Nissan and Toyota etc will be getting cash to stay so will use that to offset the costs . The rest of business will have to make a choice. . He said this 5 months ago... Yes as I did and I didn’t know the answer then either . We were told tariff free remember. That's the point. He knew the answer. Just decided not to make it happen for whatever reason. The answer hasn't changed." He didn’t know the answer and neither did we. We’ve been exporting for years so know what we’re doing regarding rules and paperwork and tariffs. These were not in place or announced before the end of December so I’ll ask again how did he know? We’ve opened in the Netherlands due to Brexit. We had no plans to do so before Brexit. We’re moving more production to Belgium and Italy due directly to Brexit. The production was planned the office in the Netherlands most certainly wasn’t. We now need it to avoid Brexit costs. | |||
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"On the JD Sports issue: “The group always expect that, for operational purposes, a European warehouse would be required sometime after 2021 with the risks associated with Brexit bringing this decision forward,” Cowgill said. “We are working with our logistics partners to secure an additional 80,000 square foot of space at a facility in Belgium which will provide us sufficient capacity to process launch product for footwear for the key brands.” So why is he now making out like it's all a shock? He seen it coming so shouldn't be an issue. How about he saw it coming and he also knew it would cost uk jobs. But we voted for this madness so now it’s ok and not an issue. We are losing jobs due to Brexit and it’s not an issue?.?? Is that what you’re saying? I didn't say the job losses weren't an issue but why is he bleating about it when he foreseen it? Why didn't they get this done sooner? Because maybe he was under the impression we had a tariff free oven ready deal . We got our procedure on customs in the 24th December (no mention of VAT procedures or tariffs) and I’m sure his business scale is enormous compared to us so how did he plan please tell me? I don’t think people realise how last min this all was . It’s a complete mess out there . It will calm down I’m sure but the jobs will start to move I believe when big business works out where they are better off. Nissan and Toyota etc will be getting cash to stay so will use that to offset the costs . The rest of business will have to make a choice. . He said this 5 months ago... Yes as I did and I didn’t know the answer then either . We were told tariff free remember. That's the point. He knew the answer. Just decided not to make it happen for whatever reason. The answer hasn't changed. He didn’t know the answer and neither did we. We’ve been exporting for years so know what we’re doing regarding rules and paperwork and tariffs. These were not in place or announced before the end of December so I’ll ask again how did he know? We’ve opened in the Netherlands due to Brexit. We had no plans to do so before Brexit. We’re moving more production to Belgium and Italy due directly to Brexit. The production was planned the office in the Netherlands most certainly wasn’t. We now need it to avoid Brexit costs. " You said you didn't know the answer yet planned to start production inside the EU? That is the answer. Produce your goods within the EU to receive tariff free trade. What happens when you have to pay it on exports from the EU to the UK? Or are you keeping some production here? Will there be jobs lost because of this? | |||
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"On the JD Sports issue: “The group always expect that, for operational purposes, a European warehouse would be required sometime after 2021 with the risks associated with Brexit bringing this decision forward,” Cowgill said. “We are working with our logistics partners to secure an additional 80,000 square foot of space at a facility in Belgium which will provide us sufficient capacity to process launch product for footwear for the key brands.” So why is he now making out like it's all a shock? He seen it coming so shouldn't be an issue. The solution is far simpler than all of his huffing and puffing about brexit ... i wonder why he is making such a big fuss about it
He employs a lot of people so it’s better if he’s just says fuck you and let’s people lose their jobs. He’s built up a business through hard work of his own and his staff and Brexit is leading to jobs moving away through no choice of theirs.
What a reward Brexit is for those who will eventually lose their jobs.
Is he closing jd sports in the U.K?
If he isn’t then his Far East imports are still coming into U.K. - and as he states - Rochdale operations not affected - so no job losses .
Think it through tariffs or no tariffs which is cheaper ?
If there is less to do in Rochdale it’s only a matter of time. A thousand jobs is a lot to create from nothing so the work must come from somewhere. He’s not doubling his sales especially not at the min.
He’s angling for subsidy first I’m sure as he’s no idiot
So the guy who runs the 6b business says there will be no changes to Rochdale and you know differently?
BTW, his revenue was up 30% last year on 2019. That's a big jump.
I didn’t say he was struggling he’s very successful.
And all that trade went through Rochdale ?
So why is he even mentioning a new warehouse if all’s well with the world .
Big business is rarely vocal about job losses as we all now.
He’s not doubling up he’s moving the imports to the EU if he goes ahead to cut out tariffs . Or should he stay and pay the tariffs ?
He’s not rich by being careless with cash.
This is where it gets silly.
You're astounded that people won't believe there will be no job losses. Yet we're supposed to believe every statement saying there will be losses. You can't have it both ways.
I don’t say they didn’t believe I said they don’t seem to care. Accepting the worst of a deal as it’s just fine.
You admit he’s a successful man so if all going well why does he feel the need to mention it ? It’s not painting him in a good light to employ in the EU over the U.K. .
You said the ever growing list of losses seem to be dismissed.
Because half of them are bullshit and haven't actually happened. The guy has said there will be no losses and here we have people up in arms because he must be lying."90% of my business is exporting . We have made people redundant and moved their jobs to Italy and Belgium due to customers not wanting the bother or costs of customs and prefer inside the EU supply. Don’t tell me it’s bullshit I made them redundant. Their jobs are gone directly due to Brexit. I know of others who I trade with who have the same issue. The fishing companies are bullshit the cheese bullshit GKN Birmingham 519 jobs re deployed to Europe bullshit. Do you read anything but the daily express. Two the biggest freight companies in the world have suspended U.K. business so who’s paying for that ? We will be in no doubt be picking up that tab to fill their margin gap. We cause the grief we pay. The jobs will, go as I said in another post once business gets its sight on the real impact not the finding our way impact. The underlying costs will be paid for by job losses or price rises across the board which again leads to inflation and yes you guessed it job losses. If it’s expensive to trade with us people will not trade with us. Trade won’t stop overnight we will just lose out across the board relentlessly. | |||
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"On the JD Sports issue: “The group always expect that, for operational purposes, a European warehouse would be required sometime after 2021 with the risks associated with Brexit bringing this decision forward,” Cowgill said. “We are working with our logistics partners to secure an additional 80,000 square foot of space at a facility in Belgium which will provide us sufficient capacity to process launch product for footwear for the key brands.” So why is he now making out like it's all a shock? He seen it coming so shouldn't be an issue. The solution is far simpler than all of his huffing and puffing about brexit ... i wonder why he is making such a big fuss about it
He employs a lot of people so it’s better if he’s just says fuck you and let’s people lose their jobs. He’s built up a business through hard work of his own and his staff and Brexit is leading to jobs moving away through no choice of theirs.
What a reward Brexit is for those who will eventually lose their jobs.
Is he closing jd sports in the U.K?
If he isn’t then his Far East imports are still coming into U.K. - and as he states - Rochdale operations not affected - so no job losses .
Think it through tariffs or no tariffs which is cheaper ?
If there is less to do in Rochdale it’s only a matter of time. A thousand jobs is a lot to create from nothing so the work must come from somewhere. He’s not doubling his sales especially not at the min.
He’s angling for subsidy first I’m sure as he’s no idiot
So the guy who runs the 6b business says there will be no changes to Rochdale and you know differently?
BTW, his revenue was up 30% last year on 2019. That's a big jump.
I didn’t say he was struggling he’s very successful.
And all that trade went through Rochdale ?
So why is he even mentioning a new warehouse if all’s well with the world .
Big business is rarely vocal about job losses as we all now.
He’s not doubling up he’s moving the imports to the EU if he goes ahead to cut out tariffs . Or should he stay and pay the tariffs ?
He’s not rich by being careless with cash.
This is where it gets silly.
You're astounded that people won't believe there will be no job losses. Yet we're supposed to believe every statement saying there will be losses. You can't have it both ways.
I don’t say they didn’t believe I said they don’t seem to care. Accepting the worst of a deal as it’s just fine.
You admit he’s a successful man so if all going well why does he feel the need to mention it ? It’s not painting him in a good light to employ in the EU over the U.K. .
You said the ever growing list of losses seem to be dismissed.
Because half of them are bullshit and haven't actually happened. The guy has said there will be no losses and here we have people up in arms because he must be lying.
90% of my business is exporting . We have made people redundant and moved their jobs to Italy and Belgium due to customers not wanting the bother or costs of customs and prefer inside the EU supply.
Don’t tell me it’s bullshit I made them redundant. Their jobs are gone directly due to Brexit. I know of others who I trade with who have the same issue.
The fishing companies are bullshit the cheese bullshit GKN Birmingham 519 jobs re deployed to Europe bullshit. Do you read anything but the daily express.
Two the biggest freight companies in the world have suspended U.K. business so who’s paying for that ? We will be in no doubt be picking up that tab to fill their margin gap. We cause the grief we pay.
The jobs will, go as I said in another post once business gets its sight on the real impact not the finding our way impact. The underlying costs will be paid for by job losses or price rises across the board which again leads to inflation and yes you guessed it job losses. If it’s expensive to trade with us people will not trade with us.
Trade won’t stop overnight we will just lose out across the board relentlessly. "We will revisit this is 2 years time and take a look at import/export figures as well as employment figures. If we're massively down I'll hold my hands up. | |||
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"On the JD Sports issue: “The group always expect that, for operational purposes, a European warehouse would be required sometime after 2021 with the risks associated with Brexit bringing this decision forward,” Cowgill said. “We are working with our logistics partners to secure an additional 80,000 square foot of space at a facility in Belgium which will provide us sufficient capacity to process launch product for footwear for the key brands.” So why is he now making out like it's all a shock? He seen it coming so shouldn't be an issue. How about he saw it coming and he also knew it would cost uk jobs. But we voted for this madness so now it’s ok and not an issue. We are losing jobs due to Brexit and it’s not an issue?.?? Is that what you’re saying? I didn't say the job losses weren't an issue but why is he bleating about it when he foreseen it? Why didn't they get this done sooner? Because maybe he was under the impression we had a tariff free oven ready deal . We got our procedure on customs in the 24th December (no mention of VAT procedures or tariffs) and I’m sure his business scale is enormous compared to us so how did he plan please tell me? I don’t think people realise how last min this all was . It’s a complete mess out there . It will calm down I’m sure but the jobs will start to move I believe when big business works out where they are better off. Nissan and Toyota etc will be getting cash to stay so will use that to offset the costs . The rest of business will have to make a choice. . He said this 5 months ago... Yes as I did and I didn’t know the answer then either . We were told tariff free remember. That's the point. He knew the answer. Just decided not to make it happen for whatever reason. The answer hasn't changed. He didn’t know the answer and neither did we. We’ve been exporting for years so know what we’re doing regarding rules and paperwork and tariffs. These were not in place or announced before the end of December so I’ll ask again how did he know? We’ve opened in the Netherlands due to Brexit. We had no plans to do so before Brexit. We’re moving more production to Belgium and Italy due directly to Brexit. The production was planned the office in the Netherlands most certainly wasn’t. We now need it to avoid Brexit costs. You said you didn't know the answer yet planned to start production inside the EU? That is the answer. Produce your goods within the EU to receive tariff free trade. What happens when you have to pay it on exports from the EU to the UK? Or are you keeping some production here? Will there be jobs lost because of this?" Some of customers wanted nothing to do with Brexit it’s that simple. They said supply inside the Eu or lose the business. This wasn’t in the ballot paper about the buggeration factor was it. This was last summer. Despite us offering to swallow the costs it was a no thanks we don’t need to mess around with it. We already had production in side the EU so we’ve increased it. We won’t export to the U.K. from the EU. We already export outside the EU and that we can compete on as we don’t have disadvantages. | |||
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"On the JD Sports issue: “The group always expect that, for operational purposes, a European warehouse would be required sometime after 2021 with the risks associated with Brexit bringing this decision forward,” Cowgill said. “We are working with our logistics partners to secure an additional 80,000 square foot of space at a facility in Belgium which will provide us sufficient capacity to process launch product for footwear for the key brands.” So why is he now making out like it's all a shock? He seen it coming so shouldn't be an issue. The solution is far simpler than all of his huffing and puffing about brexit ... i wonder why he is making such a big fuss about it
He employs a lot of people so it’s better if he’s just says fuck you and let’s people lose their jobs. He’s built up a business through hard work of his own and his staff and Brexit is leading to jobs moving away through no choice of theirs.
What a reward Brexit is for those who will eventually lose their jobs.
Is he closing jd sports in the U.K?
If he isn’t then his Far East imports are still coming into U.K. - and as he states - Rochdale operations not affected - so no job losses .
Think it through tariffs or no tariffs which is cheaper ?
If there is less to do in Rochdale it’s only a matter of time. A thousand jobs is a lot to create from nothing so the work must come from somewhere. He’s not doubling his sales especially not at the min.
He’s angling for subsidy first I’m sure as he’s no idiot
So the guy who runs the 6b business says there will be no changes to Rochdale and you know differently?
BTW, his revenue was up 30% last year on 2019. That's a big jump.
I didn’t say he was struggling he’s very successful.
And all that trade went through Rochdale ?
So why is he even mentioning a new warehouse if all’s well with the world .
Big business is rarely vocal about job losses as we all now.
He’s not doubling up he’s moving the imports to the EU if he goes ahead to cut out tariffs . Or should he stay and pay the tariffs ?
He’s not rich by being careless with cash.
This is where it gets silly.
You're astounded that people won't believe there will be no job losses. Yet we're supposed to believe every statement saying there will be losses. You can't have it both ways.
I don’t say they didn’t believe I said they don’t seem to care. Accepting the worst of a deal as it’s just fine.
You admit he’s a successful man so if all going well why does he feel the need to mention it ? It’s not painting him in a good light to employ in the EU over the U.K. .
You said the ever growing list of losses seem to be dismissed.
Because half of them are bullshit and haven't actually happened. The guy has said there will be no losses and here we have people up in arms because he must be lying.
90% of my business is exporting . We have made people redundant and moved their jobs to Italy and Belgium due to customers not wanting the bother or costs of customs and prefer inside the EU supply.
Don’t tell me it’s bullshit I made them redundant. Their jobs are gone directly due to Brexit. I know of others who I trade with who have the same issue.
The fishing companies are bullshit the cheese bullshit GKN Birmingham 519 jobs re deployed to Europe bullshit. Do you read anything but the daily express.
Two the biggest freight companies in the world have suspended U.K. business so who’s paying for that ? We will be in no doubt be picking up that tab to fill their margin gap. We cause the grief we pay.
The jobs will, go as I said in another post once business gets its sight on the real impact not the finding our way impact. The underlying costs will be paid for by job losses or price rises across the board which again leads to inflation and yes you guessed it job losses. If it’s expensive to trade with us people will not trade with us.
Trade won’t stop overnight we will just lose out across the board relentlessly. "Is it exporting, or simply selling in the EU? I ask this as a recent article in the FT noted, “The problem is that companies who only sold to Europe were not really exporting. They don’t know what to do now,” I guess if production is moved to Italy and Belgium then you will continue selling to EU and your true exporting exposure, at only 10%, will become much easier to manage. | |||
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"On the JD Sports issue: “The group always expect that, for operational purposes, a European warehouse would be required sometime after 2021 with the risks associated with Brexit bringing this decision forward,” Cowgill said. “We are working with our logistics partners to secure an additional 80,000 square foot of space at a facility in Belgium which will provide us sufficient capacity to process launch product for footwear for the key brands.” So why is he now making out like it's all a shock? He seen it coming so shouldn't be an issue. The solution is far simpler than all of his huffing and puffing about brexit ... i wonder why he is making such a big fuss about it
He employs a lot of people so it’s better if he’s just says fuck you and let’s people lose their jobs. He’s built up a business through hard work of his own and his staff and Brexit is leading to jobs moving away through no choice of theirs.
What a reward Brexit is for those who will eventually lose their jobs.
Is he closing jd sports in the U.K?
If he isn’t then his Far East imports are still coming into U.K. - and as he states - Rochdale operations not affected - so no job losses .
Think it through tariffs or no tariffs which is cheaper ?
If there is less to do in Rochdale it’s only a matter of time. A thousand jobs is a lot to create from nothing so the work must come from somewhere. He’s not doubling his sales especially not at the min.
He’s angling for subsidy first I’m sure as he’s no idiot
So the guy who runs the 6b business says there will be no changes to Rochdale and you know differently?
BTW, his revenue was up 30% last year on 2019. That's a big jump.
I didn’t say he was struggling he’s very successful.
And all that trade went through Rochdale ?
So why is he even mentioning a new warehouse if all’s well with the world .
Big business is rarely vocal about job losses as we all now.
He’s not doubling up he’s moving the imports to the EU if he goes ahead to cut out tariffs . Or should he stay and pay the tariffs ?
He’s not rich by being careless with cash.
This is where it gets silly.
You're astounded that people won't believe there will be no job losses. Yet we're supposed to believe every statement saying there will be losses. You can't have it both ways.
I don’t say they didn’t believe I said they don’t seem to care. Accepting the worst of a deal as it’s just fine.
You admit he’s a successful man so if all going well why does he feel the need to mention it ? It’s not painting him in a good light to employ in the EU over the U.K. .
You said the ever growing list of losses seem to be dismissed.
Because half of them are bullshit and haven't actually happened. The guy has said there will be no losses and here we have people up in arms because he must be lying.
90% of my business is exporting . We have made people redundant and moved their jobs to Italy and Belgium due to customers not wanting the bother or costs of customs and prefer inside the EU supply.
Don’t tell me it’s bullshit I made them redundant. Their jobs are gone directly due to Brexit. I know of others who I trade with who have the same issue.
The fishing companies are bullshit the cheese bullshit GKN Birmingham 519 jobs re deployed to Europe bullshit. Do you read anything but the daily express.
Two the biggest freight companies in the world have suspended U.K. business so who’s paying for that ? We will be in no doubt be picking up that tab to fill their margin gap. We cause the grief we pay.
The jobs will, go as I said in another post once business gets its sight on the real impact not the finding our way impact. The underlying costs will be paid for by job losses or price rises across the board which again leads to inflation and yes you guessed it job losses. If it’s expensive to trade with us people will not trade with us.
Trade won’t stop overnight we will just lose out across the board relentlessly.
We will revisit this is 2 years time and take a look at import/export figures as well as employment figures. If we're massively down I'll hold my hands up."I can’t hold you to that as Covid will have negative I’m sure. My point was we seem to accept that it ok to have the issues and not question why. We’ve haven’t got free trade with Europe in any way shape or form. It’s a bag of shit and nothing that was promised. Whether you are for or against Brexit we have been shafted as a country by the lies. | |||
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"On the JD Sports issue: “The group always expect that, for operational purposes, a European warehouse would be required sometime after 2021 with the risks associated with Brexit bringing this decision forward,” Cowgill said. “We are working with our logistics partners to secure an additional 80,000 square foot of space at a facility in Belgium which will provide us sufficient capacity to process launch product for footwear for the key brands.” So why is he now making out like it's all a shock? He seen it coming so shouldn't be an issue. The solution is far simpler than all of his huffing and puffing about brexit ... i wonder why he is making such a big fuss about it
He employs a lot of people so it’s better if he’s just says fuck you and let’s people lose their jobs. He’s built up a business through hard work of his own and his staff and Brexit is leading to jobs moving away through no choice of theirs.
What a reward Brexit is for those who will eventually lose their jobs.
Is he closing jd sports in the U.K?
If he isn’t then his Far East imports are still coming into U.K. - and as he states - Rochdale operations not affected - so no job losses .
Think it through tariffs or no tariffs which is cheaper ?
If there is less to do in Rochdale it’s only a matter of time. A thousand jobs is a lot to create from nothing so the work must come from somewhere. He’s not doubling his sales especially not at the min.
He’s angling for subsidy first I’m sure as he’s no idiot
So the guy who runs the 6b business says there will be no changes to Rochdale and you know differently?
BTW, his revenue was up 30% last year on 2019. That's a big jump.
I didn’t say he was struggling he’s very successful.
And all that trade went through Rochdale ?
So why is he even mentioning a new warehouse if all’s well with the world .
Big business is rarely vocal about job losses as we all now.
He’s not doubling up he’s moving the imports to the EU if he goes ahead to cut out tariffs . Or should he stay and pay the tariffs ?
He’s not rich by being careless with cash.
This is where it gets silly.
You're astounded that people won't believe there will be no job losses. Yet we're supposed to believe every statement saying there will be losses. You can't have it both ways.
I don’t say they didn’t believe I said they don’t seem to care. Accepting the worst of a deal as it’s just fine.
You admit he’s a successful man so if all going well why does he feel the need to mention it ? It’s not painting him in a good light to employ in the EU over the U.K. .
You said the ever growing list of losses seem to be dismissed.
Because half of them are bullshit and haven't actually happened. The guy has said there will be no losses and here we have people up in arms because he must be lying.
90% of my business is exporting . We have made people redundant and moved their jobs to Italy and Belgium due to customers not wanting the bother or costs of customs and prefer inside the EU supply.
Don’t tell me it’s bullshit I made them redundant. Their jobs are gone directly due to Brexit. I know of others who I trade with who have the same issue.
The fishing companies are bullshit the cheese bullshit GKN Birmingham 519 jobs re deployed to Europe bullshit. Do you read anything but the daily express.
Two the biggest freight companies in the world have suspended U.K. business so who’s paying for that ? We will be in no doubt be picking up that tab to fill their margin gap. We cause the grief we pay.
The jobs will, go as I said in another post once business gets its sight on the real impact not the finding our way impact. The underlying costs will be paid for by job losses or price rises across the board which again leads to inflation and yes you guessed it job losses. If it’s expensive to trade with us people will not trade with us.
Trade won’t stop overnight we will just lose out across the board relentlessly. "I find it astounding that some one on a swingers forum is actually more informed than the prime minister of the country. | |||
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"On the JD Sports issue: “The group always expect that, for operational purposes, a European warehouse would be required sometime after 2021 with the risks associated with Brexit bringing this decision forward,” Cowgill said. “We are working with our logistics partners to secure an additional 80,000 square foot of space at a facility in Belgium which will provide us sufficient capacity to process launch product for footwear for the key brands.” So why is he now making out like it's all a shock? He seen it coming so shouldn't be an issue. The solution is far simpler than all of his huffing and puffing about brexit ... i wonder why he is making such a big fuss about it
He employs a lot of people so it’s better if he’s just says fuck you and let’s people lose their jobs. He’s built up a business through hard work of his own and his staff and Brexit is leading to jobs moving away through no choice of theirs.
What a reward Brexit is for those who will eventually lose their jobs.
Is he closing jd sports in the U.K?
If he isn’t then his Far East imports are still coming into U.K. - and as he states - Rochdale operations not affected - so no job losses .
Think it through tariffs or no tariffs which is cheaper ?
If there is less to do in Rochdale it’s only a matter of time. A thousand jobs is a lot to create from nothing so the work must come from somewhere. He’s not doubling his sales especially not at the min.
He’s angling for subsidy first I’m sure as he’s no idiot
So the guy who runs the 6b business says there will be no changes to Rochdale and you know differently?
BTW, his revenue was up 30% last year on 2019. That's a big jump.
I didn’t say he was struggling he’s very successful.
And all that trade went through Rochdale ?
So why is he even mentioning a new warehouse if all’s well with the world .
Big business is rarely vocal about job losses as we all now.
He’s not doubling up he’s moving the imports to the EU if he goes ahead to cut out tariffs . Or should he stay and pay the tariffs ?
He’s not rich by being careless with cash.
This is where it gets silly.
You're astounded that people won't believe there will be no job losses. Yet we're supposed to believe every statement saying there will be losses. You can't have it both ways.
I don’t say they didn’t believe I said they don’t seem to care. Accepting the worst of a deal as it’s just fine.
You admit he’s a successful man so if all going well why does he feel the need to mention it ? It’s not painting him in a good light to employ in the EU over the U.K. .
You said the ever growing list of losses seem to be dismissed.
Because half of them are bullshit and haven't actually happened. The guy has said there will be no losses and here we have people up in arms because he must be lying.
90% of my business is exporting . We have made people redundant and moved their jobs to Italy and Belgium due to customers not wanting the bother or costs of customs and prefer inside the EU supply.
Don’t tell me it’s bullshit I made them redundant. Their jobs are gone directly due to Brexit. I know of others who I trade with who have the same issue.
The fishing companies are bullshit the cheese bullshit GKN Birmingham 519 jobs re deployed to Europe bullshit. Do you read anything but the daily express.
Two the biggest freight companies in the world have suspended U.K. business so who’s paying for that ? We will be in no doubt be picking up that tab to fill their margin gap. We cause the grief we pay.
The jobs will, go as I said in another post once business gets its sight on the real impact not the finding our way impact. The underlying costs will be paid for by job losses or price rises across the board which again leads to inflation and yes you guessed it job losses. If it’s expensive to trade with us people will not trade with us.
Trade won’t stop overnight we will just lose out across the board relentlessly.
Is it exporting, or simply selling in the EU?
I ask this as a recent article in the FT noted, “The problem is that companies who only sold to Europe were not really exporting. They don’t know what to do now,”
I guess if production is moved to Italy and Belgium then you will continue selling to EU and your true exporting exposure, at only 10%, will become much easier to manage.
"It’s exporting by default now for those companies and yes some were totally not ready but they didn’t have time to be ready. They weren’t to,d what to be ready for. British steeel knew how to export they knew nothing about the quota restrictions from what I’ve been to,d. HMRC is still not ready. The IT is non existent for the new procedures it’s manual most of the way. The transition as they call it which is just letting imports sail though is because customs haven’t got the capacity to check everything. If they had to stop each load the shops would be empty very quickly. We won’t move all production abroad as we can’t logistically. Some clients we will lose due to costs and no chance to compete. Our exports outside the EU are on a level playing field as all our competitors have the same costs. That is mainly ex U.K. and Italy and unaffected by Brexit. Note the point we know how to export but due to the mess of the procedures and the total lack of notice even we couldn’t plan anything before the end of December so it was not our fault in anyway. We know how to export. We ground to a halt on some routes in the first two weeks because HMRC couldn’t cope. There are no queues at Dover because it’s all inland and done before the trucks are allowed to go to the port. There was nothing wrong with our procedures or notes it was the queue. The standard set by HMRC when they eventually get sorted is two hours after the driver arrives for his paperwork to be ready but we have to submit at least an hour before he arrives so in effect it’s three hours. That’s their target . We have had up to 48 hours some poor bastards are there for a week if there are errors. It used to take 3 mins through Dover. Those trucks running to inland sites and waiting need to be paid for and the forms have to be paid for to submit. It’s all bad for U.K. plc. | |||
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"On the JD Sports issue: “The group always expect that, for operational purposes, a European warehouse would be required sometime after 2021 with the risks associated with Brexit bringing this decision forward,” Cowgill said. “We are working with our logistics partners to secure an additional 80,000 square foot of space at a facility in Belgium which will provide us sufficient capacity to process launch product for footwear for the key brands.” So why is he now making out like it's all a shock? He seen it coming so shouldn't be an issue. The solution is far simpler than all of his huffing and puffing about brexit ... i wonder why he is making such a big fuss about it
He employs a lot of people so it’s better if he’s just says fuck you and let’s people lose their jobs. He’s built up a business through hard work of his own and his staff and Brexit is leading to jobs moving away through no choice of theirs.
What a reward Brexit is for those who will eventually lose their jobs.
Is he closing jd sports in the U.K?
If he isn’t then his Far East imports are still coming into U.K. - and as he states - Rochdale operations not affected - so no job losses .
Think it through tariffs or no tariffs which is cheaper ?
If there is less to do in Rochdale it’s only a matter of time. A thousand jobs is a lot to create from nothing so the work must come from somewhere. He’s not doubling his sales especially not at the min.
He’s angling for subsidy first I’m sure as he’s no idiot
So the guy who runs the 6b business says there will be no changes to Rochdale and you know differently?
BTW, his revenue was up 30% last year on 2019. That's a big jump.
I didn’t say he was struggling he’s very successful.
And all that trade went through Rochdale ?
So why is he even mentioning a new warehouse if all’s well with the world .
Big business is rarely vocal about job losses as we all now.
He’s not doubling up he’s moving the imports to the EU if he goes ahead to cut out tariffs . Or should he stay and pay the tariffs ?
He’s not rich by being careless with cash.
This is where it gets silly.
You're astounded that people won't believe there will be no job losses. Yet we're supposed to believe every statement saying there will be losses. You can't have it both ways.
I don’t say they didn’t believe I said they don’t seem to care. Accepting the worst of a deal as it’s just fine.
You admit he’s a successful man so if all going well why does he feel the need to mention it ? It’s not painting him in a good light to employ in the EU over the U.K. .
You said the ever growing list of losses seem to be dismissed.
Because half of them are bullshit and haven't actually happened. The guy has said there will be no losses and here we have people up in arms because he must be lying.
90% of my business is exporting . We have made people redundant and moved their jobs to Italy and Belgium due to customers not wanting the bother or costs of customs and prefer inside the EU supply.
Don’t tell me it’s bullshit I made them redundant. Their jobs are gone directly due to Brexit. I know of others who I trade with who have the same issue.
The fishing companies are bullshit the cheese bullshit GKN Birmingham 519 jobs re deployed to Europe bullshit. Do you read anything but the daily express.
Two the biggest freight companies in the world have suspended U.K. business so who’s paying for that ? We will be in no doubt be picking up that tab to fill their margin gap. We cause the grief we pay.
The jobs will, go as I said in another post once business gets its sight on the real impact not the finding our way impact. The underlying costs will be paid for by job losses or price rises across the board which again leads to inflation and yes you guessed it job losses. If it’s expensive to trade with us people will not trade with us.
Trade won’t stop overnight we will just lose out across the board relentlessly.
Is it exporting, or simply selling in the EU?
I ask this as a recent article in the FT noted, “The problem is that companies who only sold to Europe were not really exporting. They don’t know what to do now,”
I guess if production is moved to Italy and Belgium then you will continue selling to EU and your true exporting exposure, at only 10%, will become much easier to manage.
It’s exporting by default now for those companies and yes some were totally not ready but they didn’t have time to be ready. They weren’t to,d what to be ready for.
British steeel knew how to export they knew nothing about the quota restrictions from what I’ve been to,d.
HMRC is still not ready. The IT is non existent for the new procedures it’s manual most of the way. The transition as they call it which is just letting imports sail though is because customs haven’t got the capacity to check everything. If they had to stop each load the shops would be empty very quickly.
We won’t move all production abroad as we can’t logistically. Some clients we will lose due to costs and no chance to compete.
Our exports outside the EU are on a level playing field as all our competitors have the same costs.
That is mainly ex U.K. and Italy and unaffected by Brexit.
Note the point we know how to export but due to the mess of the procedures and the total lack of notice even we couldn’t plan anything before the end of December so it was not our fault in anyway.
We know how to export. We ground to a halt on some routes in the first two weeks because HMRC couldn’t cope. There are no queues at Dover because it’s all inland and done before the trucks are allowed to go to the port. There was nothing wrong with our procedures or notes it was the queue.
The standard set by HMRC when they eventually get sorted is two hours after the driver arrives for his paperwork to be ready but we have to submit at least an hour before he arrives so in effect it’s three hours. That’s their target . We have had up to 48 hours some poor bastards are there for a week if there are errors. It used to take 3 mins through Dover. Those trucks running to inland sites and waiting need to be paid for and the forms have to be paid for to submit. It’s all bad for U.K. plc.
"Not knowing what to plan for ? That’s not true is it ... for a whole year or more there was the possibility of come 31december the default situation would be WTO. There’s plenty of information for that eventuality, in fact the Eu already provide all necessary requirements for paperwork, certs, rules of origin etc. So holding out for something unknown would be kind of a silly position to take. | |||
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"Biggest freight companies won't export from EU to UK, total crap. Both DHL and UPS are still operating, we use them and all is good. We even use them to collect goods from EU customers as well. DPD gave up as they were not ready, plus their integrated logistics software was not correct and ripped customers of in the way it rounded up weights. " DPD not ready . Such an amazing parcel company not ready.. why not if it’s easy? Speak withDB Schenker top 10in the world they made a public announcement to suspend U.K. traffics. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55662544. . DHL world number one. https://theloadstar.com/exclusive-another-shock-as-dhl-express-suspends-some-uk-eu-services/. DSV just slit your throat. https://www.yoursafetystore.eu/uncategorized-en/brexit-border-problems-force-dsv-road-to-hike-surcharges-to-europe-by-25/ So Hamish you’re talking total crap the services were suspended. Large trailer operators stoped coming to the U.K. too shall, I list them? I know them because I use them a lot! Hamish you keep banging on about the small exports b2c recovery starting in July OSS Do you export or import full loads on a b2b basis or just parcels? | |||
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"On the JD Sports issue: “The group always expect that, for operational purposes, a European warehouse would be required sometime after 2021 with the risks associated with Brexit bringing this decision forward,” Cowgill said. “We are working with our logistics partners to secure an additional 80,000 square foot of space at a facility in Belgium which will provide us sufficient capacity to process launch product for footwear for the key brands.” So why is he now making out like it's all a shock? He seen it coming so shouldn't be an issue. The solution is far simpler than all of his huffing and puffing about brexit ... i wonder why he is making such a big fuss about it
He employs a lot of people so it’s better if he’s just says fuck you and let’s people lose their jobs. He’s built up a business through hard work of his own and his staff and Brexit is leading to jobs moving away through no choice of theirs.
What a reward Brexit is for those who will eventually lose their jobs.
Is he closing jd sports in the U.K?
If he isn’t then his Far East imports are still coming into U.K. - and as he states - Rochdale operations not affected - so no job losses .
Think it through tariffs or no tariffs which is cheaper ?
If there is less to do in Rochdale it’s only a matter of time. A thousand jobs is a lot to create from nothing so the work must come from somewhere. He’s not doubling his sales especially not at the min.
He’s angling for subsidy first I’m sure as he’s no idiot
So the guy who runs the 6b business says there will be no changes to Rochdale and you know differently?
BTW, his revenue was up 30% last year on 2019. That's a big jump.
I didn’t say he was struggling he’s very successful.
And all that trade went through Rochdale ?
So why is he even mentioning a new warehouse if all’s well with the world .
Big business is rarely vocal about job losses as we all now.
He’s not doubling up he’s moving the imports to the EU if he goes ahead to cut out tariffs . Or should he stay and pay the tariffs ?
He’s not rich by being careless with cash.
This is where it gets silly.
You're astounded that people won't believe there will be no job losses. Yet we're supposed to believe every statement saying there will be losses. You can't have it both ways.
I don’t say they didn’t believe I said they don’t seem to care. Accepting the worst of a deal as it’s just fine.
You admit he’s a successful man so if all going well why does he feel the need to mention it ? It’s not painting him in a good light to employ in the EU over the U.K. .
You said the ever growing list of losses seem to be dismissed.
Because half of them are bullshit and haven't actually happened. The guy has said there will be no losses and here we have people up in arms because he must be lying.
90% of my business is exporting . We have made people redundant and moved their jobs to Italy and Belgium due to customers not wanting the bother or costs of customs and prefer inside the EU supply.
Don’t tell me it’s bullshit I made them redundant. Their jobs are gone directly due to Brexit. I know of others who I trade with who have the same issue.
The fishing companies are bullshit the cheese bullshit GKN Birmingham 519 jobs re deployed to Europe bullshit. Do you read anything but the daily express.
Two the biggest freight companies in the world have suspended U.K. business so who’s paying for that ? We will be in no doubt be picking up that tab to fill their margin gap. We cause the grief we pay.
The jobs will, go as I said in another post once business gets its sight on the real impact not the finding our way impact. The underlying costs will be paid for by job losses or price rises across the board which again leads to inflation and yes you guessed it job losses. If it’s expensive to trade with us people will not trade with us.
Trade won’t stop overnight we will just lose out across the board relentlessly.
Is it exporting, or simply selling in the EU?
I ask this as a recent article in the FT noted, “The problem is that companies who only sold to Europe were not really exporting. They don’t know what to do now,”
I guess if production is moved to Italy and Belgium then you will continue selling to EU and your true exporting exposure, at only 10%, will become much easier to manage.
It’s exporting by default now for those companies and yes some were totally not ready but they didn’t have time to be ready. They weren’t to,d what to be ready for.
British steeel knew how to export they knew nothing about the quota restrictions from what I’ve been to,d.
HMRC is still not ready. The IT is non existent for the new procedures it’s manual most of the way. The transition as they call it which is just letting imports sail though is because customs haven’t got the capacity to check everything. If they had to stop each load the shops would be empty very quickly.
We won’t move all production abroad as we can’t logistically. Some clients we will lose due to costs and no chance to compete.
Our exports outside the EU are on a level playing field as all our competitors have the same costs.
That is mainly ex U.K. and Italy and unaffected by Brexit.
Note the point we know how to export but due to the mess of the procedures and the total lack of notice even we couldn’t plan anything before the end of December so it was not our fault in anyway.
We know how to export. We ground to a halt on some routes in the first two weeks because HMRC couldn’t cope. There are no queues at Dover because it’s all inland and done before the trucks are allowed to go to the port. There was nothing wrong with our procedures or notes it was the queue.
The standard set by HMRC when they eventually get sorted is two hours after the driver arrives for his paperwork to be ready but we have to submit at least an hour before he arrives so in effect it’s three hours. That’s their target . We have had up to 48 hours some poor bastards are there for a week if there are errors. It used to take 3 mins through Dover. Those trucks running to inland sites and waiting need to be paid for and the forms have to be paid for to submit. It’s all bad for U.K. plc.
Not knowing what to plan for ?
That’s not true is it ... for a whole year or more there was the possibility of come 31december the default situation would be WTO.
There’s plenty of information for that eventuality, in fact the Eu already provide all necessary requirements for paperwork, certs, rules of origin etc. So holding out for something unknown would be kind of a silly position to take.
"So we prepare for WTO and it doesn’t happen. Where does that leave the planning FFS think about what you’ve just said. We may as well plan to move everything to China because that didn’t happen either. There was no plan! We’re talking large organisations that have structures that can’t just pick up a form and get a office junior to fill it in pencil. | |||
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"On the JD Sports issue: “The group always expect that, for operational purposes, a European warehouse would be required sometime after 2021 with the risks associated with Brexit bringing this decision forward,” Cowgill said. “We are working with our logistics partners to secure an additional 80,000 square foot of space at a facility in Belgium which will provide us sufficient capacity to process launch product for footwear for the key brands.” So why is he now making out like it's all a shock? He seen it coming so shouldn't be an issue. The solution is far simpler than all of his huffing and puffing about brexit ... i wonder why he is making such a big fuss about it
He employs a lot of people so it’s better if he’s just says fuck you and let’s people lose their jobs. He’s built up a business through hard work of his own and his staff and Brexit is leading to jobs moving away through no choice of theirs.
What a reward Brexit is for those who will eventually lose their jobs.
Is he closing jd sports in the U.K?
If he isn’t then his Far East imports are still coming into U.K. - and as he states - Rochdale operations not affected - so no job losses .
Think it through tariffs or no tariffs which is cheaper ?
If there is less to do in Rochdale it’s only a matter of time. A thousand jobs is a lot to create from nothing so the work must come from somewhere. He’s not doubling his sales especially not at the min.
He’s angling for subsidy first I’m sure as he’s no idiot
So the guy who runs the 6b business says there will be no changes to Rochdale and you know differently?
BTW, his revenue was up 30% last year on 2019. That's a big jump.
I didn’t say he was struggling he’s very successful.
And all that trade went through Rochdale ?
So why is he even mentioning a new warehouse if all’s well with the world .
Big business is rarely vocal about job losses as we all now.
He’s not doubling up he’s moving the imports to the EU if he goes ahead to cut out tariffs . Or should he stay and pay the tariffs ?
He’s not rich by being careless with cash.
This is where it gets silly.
You're astounded that people won't believe there will be no job losses. Yet we're supposed to believe every statement saying there will be losses. You can't have it both ways.
I don’t say they didn’t believe I said they don’t seem to care. Accepting the worst of a deal as it’s just fine.
You admit he’s a successful man so if all going well why does he feel the need to mention it ? It’s not painting him in a good light to employ in the EU over the U.K. .
You said the ever growing list of losses seem to be dismissed.
Because half of them are bullshit and haven't actually happened. The guy has said there will be no losses and here we have people up in arms because he must be lying.
90% of my business is exporting . We have made people redundant and moved their jobs to Italy and Belgium due to customers not wanting the bother or costs of customs and prefer inside the EU supply.
Don’t tell me it’s bullshit I made them redundant. Their jobs are gone directly due to Brexit. I know of others who I trade with who have the same issue.
The fishing companies are bullshit the cheese bullshit GKN Birmingham 519 jobs re deployed to Europe bullshit. Do you read anything but the daily express.
Two the biggest freight companies in the world have suspended U.K. business so who’s paying for that ? We will be in no doubt be picking up that tab to fill their margin gap. We cause the grief we pay.
The jobs will, go as I said in another post once business gets its sight on the real impact not the finding our way impact. The underlying costs will be paid for by job losses or price rises across the board which again leads to inflation and yes you guessed it job losses. If it’s expensive to trade with us people will not trade with us.
Trade won’t stop overnight we will just lose out across the board relentlessly.
I find it astounding that some one on a swingers forum is actually more informed than the prime minister of the country."Now now Lionel be fair I can’t get to meet Murdoch the king maker at will. Boris can even with Covid! | |||
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"On the JD Sports issue: “The group always expect that, for operational purposes, a European warehouse would be required sometime after 2021 with the risks associated with Brexit bringing this decision forward,” Cowgill said. “We are working with our logistics partners to secure an additional 80,000 square foot of space at a facility in Belgium which will provide us sufficient capacity to process launch product for footwear for the key brands.” So why is he now making out like it's all a shock? He seen it coming so shouldn't be an issue. The solution is far simpler than all of his huffing and puffing about brexit ... i wonder why he is making such a big fuss about it
He employs a lot of people so it’s better if he’s just says fuck you and let’s people lose their jobs. He’s built up a business through hard work of his own and his staff and Brexit is leading to jobs moving away through no choice of theirs.
What a reward Brexit is for those who will eventually lose their jobs.
Is he closing jd sports in the U.K?
If he isn’t then his Far East imports are still coming into U.K. - and as he states - Rochdale operations not affected - so no job losses .
Think it through tariffs or no tariffs which is cheaper ?
If there is less to do in Rochdale it’s only a matter of time. A thousand jobs is a lot to create from nothing so the work must come from somewhere. He’s not doubling his sales especially not at the min.
He’s angling for subsidy first I’m sure as he’s no idiot
So the guy who runs the 6b business says there will be no changes to Rochdale and you know differently?
BTW, his revenue was up 30% last year on 2019. That's a big jump.
I didn’t say he was struggling he’s very successful.
And all that trade went through Rochdale ?
So why is he even mentioning a new warehouse if all’s well with the world .
Big business is rarely vocal about job losses as we all now.
He’s not doubling up he’s moving the imports to the EU if he goes ahead to cut out tariffs . Or should he stay and pay the tariffs ?
He’s not rich by being careless with cash.
This is where it gets silly.
You're astounded that people won't believe there will be no job losses. Yet we're supposed to believe every statement saying there will be losses. You can't have it both ways.
I don’t say they didn’t believe I said they don’t seem to care. Accepting the worst of a deal as it’s just fine.
You admit he’s a successful man so if all going well why does he feel the need to mention it ? It’s not painting him in a good light to employ in the EU over the U.K. .
You said the ever growing list of losses seem to be dismissed.
Because half of them are bullshit and haven't actually happened. The guy has said there will be no losses and here we have people up in arms because he must be lying.
90% of my business is exporting . We have made people redundant and moved their jobs to Italy and Belgium due to customers not wanting the bother or costs of customs and prefer inside the EU supply.
Don’t tell me it’s bullshit I made them redundant. Their jobs are gone directly due to Brexit. I know of others who I trade with who have the same issue.
The fishing companies are bullshit the cheese bullshit GKN Birmingham 519 jobs re deployed to Europe bullshit. Do you read anything but the daily express.
Two the biggest freight companies in the world have suspended U.K. business so who’s paying for that ? We will be in no doubt be picking up that tab to fill their margin gap. We cause the grief we pay.
The jobs will, go as I said in another post once business gets its sight on the real impact not the finding our way impact. The underlying costs will be paid for by job losses or price rises across the board which again leads to inflation and yes you guessed it job losses. If it’s expensive to trade with us people will not trade with us.
Trade won’t stop overnight we will just lose out across the board relentlessly.
Is it exporting, or simply selling in the EU?
I ask this as a recent article in the FT noted, “The problem is that companies who only sold to Europe were not really exporting. They don’t know what to do now,”
I guess if production is moved to Italy and Belgium then you will continue selling to EU and your true exporting exposure, at only 10%, will become much easier to manage.
It’s exporting by default now for those companies and yes some were totally not ready but they didn’t have time to be ready. They weren’t to,d what to be ready for.
British steeel knew how to export they knew nothing about the quota restrictions from what I’ve been to,d.
HMRC is still not ready. The IT is non existent for the new procedures it’s manual most of the way. The transition as they call it which is just letting imports sail though is because customs haven’t got the capacity to check everything. If they had to stop each load the shops would be empty very quickly.
We won’t move all production abroad as we can’t logistically. Some clients we will lose due to costs and no chance to compete.
Our exports outside the EU are on a level playing field as all our competitors have the same costs.
That is mainly ex U.K. and Italy and unaffected by Brexit.
Note the point we know how to export but due to the mess of the procedures and the total lack of notice even we couldn’t plan anything before the end of December so it was not our fault in anyway.
We know how to export. We ground to a halt on some routes in the first two weeks because HMRC couldn’t cope. There are no queues at Dover because it’s all inland and done before the trucks are allowed to go to the port. There was nothing wrong with our procedures or notes it was the queue.
The standard set by HMRC when they eventually get sorted is two hours after the driver arrives for his paperwork to be ready but we have to submit at least an hour before he arrives so in effect it’s three hours. That’s their target . We have had up to 48 hours some poor bastards are there for a week if there are errors. It used to take 3 mins through Dover. Those trucks running to inland sites and waiting need to be paid for and the forms have to be paid for to submit. It’s all bad for U.K. plc.
Not knowing what to plan for ?
That’s not true is it ... for a whole year or more there was the possibility of come 31december the default situation would be WTO.
There’s plenty of information for that eventuality, in fact the Eu already provide all necessary requirements for paperwork, certs, rules of origin etc. So holding out for something unknown would be kind of a silly position to take.
So we prepare for WTO and it doesn’t happen. Where does that leave the planning FFS think about what you’ve just said. We may as well plan to move everything to China because that didn’t happen either. There was no plan!
We’re talking large organisations that have structures that can’t just pick up a form and get a office junior to fill it in pencil. "... and yet I’m sure the businesses who were anticipating/preparing for a worst case scenario are now in a much better position than those who had their head in the sand. | |||
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"British supermarkets that have stores in Europe are now facing supply problems because of post-Brexit rules on exports to the EU. This is impacting fresh produce at 20 Marks and Spencer stores in France, Morrison's in Gibraltar, and with a chain of UK supermarkets in Belgium is now on the verge of closure having had no deliveries since December. You just couldn’t make this stuff up..... Unless it's British specialities surely Marks and Spencer could stock up their fresh produce in France or Spain itself. " I'm sure they can and probably will eventually. Another BREXIT win then? | |||
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"On the JD Sports issue: “The group always expect that, for operational purposes, a European warehouse would be required sometime after 2021 with the risks associated with Brexit bringing this decision forward,” Cowgill said. “We are working with our logistics partners to secure an additional 80,000 square foot of space at a facility in Belgium which will provide us sufficient capacity to process launch product for footwear for the key brands.” So why is he now making out like it's all a shock? He seen it coming so shouldn't be an issue. The solution is far simpler than all of his huffing and puffing about brexit ... i wonder why he is making such a big fuss about it
He employs a lot of people so it’s better if he’s just says fuck you and let’s people lose their jobs. He’s built up a business through hard work of his own and his staff and Brexit is leading to jobs moving away through no choice of theirs.
What a reward Brexit is for those who will eventually lose their jobs.
Is he closing jd sports in the U.K?
If he isn’t then his Far East imports are still coming into U.K. - and as he states - Rochdale operations not affected - so no job losses .
Think it through tariffs or no tariffs which is cheaper ?
If there is less to do in Rochdale it’s only a matter of time. A thousand jobs is a lot to create from nothing so the work must come from somewhere. He’s not doubling his sales especially not at the min.
He’s angling for subsidy first I’m sure as he’s no idiot
So the guy who runs the 6b business says there will be no changes to Rochdale and you know differently?
BTW, his revenue was up 30% last year on 2019. That's a big jump.
I didn’t say he was struggling he’s very successful.
And all that trade went through Rochdale ?
So why is he even mentioning a new warehouse if all’s well with the world .
Big business is rarely vocal about job losses as we all now.
He’s not doubling up he’s moving the imports to the EU if he goes ahead to cut out tariffs . Or should he stay and pay the tariffs ?
He’s not rich by being careless with cash.
This is where it gets silly.
You're astounded that people won't believe there will be no job losses. Yet we're supposed to believe every statement saying there will be losses. You can't have it both ways.
I don’t say they didn’t believe I said they don’t seem to care. Accepting the worst of a deal as it’s just fine.
You admit he’s a successful man so if all going well why does he feel the need to mention it ? It’s not painting him in a good light to employ in the EU over the U.K. .
You said the ever growing list of losses seem to be dismissed.
Because half of them are bullshit and haven't actually happened. The guy has said there will be no losses and here we have people up in arms because he must be lying.
90% of my business is exporting . We have made people redundant and moved their jobs to Italy and Belgium due to customers not wanting the bother or costs of customs and prefer inside the EU supply.
Don’t tell me it’s bullshit I made them redundant. Their jobs are gone directly due to Brexit. I know of others who I trade with who have the same issue.
The fishing companies are bullshit the cheese bullshit GKN Birmingham 519 jobs re deployed to Europe bullshit. Do you read anything but the daily express.
Two the biggest freight companies in the world have suspended U.K. business so who’s paying for that ? We will be in no doubt be picking up that tab to fill their margin gap. We cause the grief we pay.
The jobs will, go as I said in another post once business gets its sight on the real impact not the finding our way impact. The underlying costs will be paid for by job losses or price rises across the board which again leads to inflation and yes you guessed it job losses. If it’s expensive to trade with us people will not trade with us.
Trade won’t stop overnight we will just lose out across the board relentlessly.
Is it exporting, or simply selling in the EU?
I ask this as a recent article in the FT noted, “The problem is that companies who only sold to Europe were not really exporting. They don’t know what to do now,”
I guess if production is moved to Italy and Belgium then you will continue selling to EU and your true exporting exposure, at only 10%, will become much easier to manage.
It’s exporting by default now for those companies and yes some were totally not ready but they didn’t have time to be ready. They weren’t to,d what to be ready for.
British steeel knew how to export they knew nothing about the quota restrictions from what I’ve been to,d.
HMRC is still not ready. The IT is non existent for the new procedures it’s manual most of the way. The transition as they call it which is just letting imports sail though is because customs haven’t got the capacity to check everything. If they had to stop each load the shops would be empty very quickly.
We won’t move all production abroad as we can’t logistically. Some clients we will lose due to costs and no chance to compete.
Our exports outside the EU are on a level playing field as all our competitors have the same costs.
That is mainly ex U.K. and Italy and unaffected by Brexit.
Note the point we know how to export but due to the mess of the procedures and the total lack of notice even we couldn’t plan anything before the end of December so it was not our fault in anyway.
We know how to export. We ground to a halt on some routes in the first two weeks because HMRC couldn’t cope. There are no queues at Dover because it’s all inland and done before the trucks are allowed to go to the port. There was nothing wrong with our procedures or notes it was the queue.
The standard set by HMRC when they eventually get sorted is two hours after the driver arrives for his paperwork to be ready but we have to submit at least an hour before he arrives so in effect it’s three hours. That’s their target . We have had up to 48 hours some poor bastards are there for a week if there are errors. It used to take 3 mins through Dover. Those trucks running to inland sites and waiting need to be paid for and the forms have to be paid for to submit. It’s all bad for U.K. plc.
Not knowing what to plan for ?
That’s not true is it ... for a whole year or more there was the possibility of come 31december the default situation would be WTO.
There’s plenty of information for that eventuality, in fact the Eu already provide all necessary requirements for paperwork, certs, rules of origin etc. So holding out for something unknown would be kind of a silly position to take.
So we prepare for WTO and it doesn’t happen. Where does that leave the planning FFS think about what you’ve just said. We may as well plan to move everything to China because that didn’t happen either. There was no plan!
We’re talking large organisations that have structures that can’t just pick up a form and get a office junior to fill it in pencil.
... and yet I’m sure the businesses who were anticipating/preparing for a worst case scenario are now in a much better position than those who had their head in the sand.
"Ok so you get a contract to build a house on Monday The owner hasn’t made up their mind what the house is though or how it’s designed. So you get plans for a hundred houses and buy all the materials for a hundred houses . Sunday night he phoned and says he didn’t want a house he wants a canal boat. Are you ready for Monday morning? The principal is like us you can be prepared as much as possible but if you don’t know the rules don’t know the process don’t know the costs there only so much guess work you can apply. To say business should be prepared shows you are buying the bullshit fed by Gove. I’ll say it again HMRC still aren’t ready or able to do full customs and they knew more than we did!! | |||
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"On the JD Sports issue: “The group always expect that, for operational purposes, a European warehouse would be required sometime after 2021 with the risks associated with Brexit bringing this decision forward,” Cowgill said. “We are working with our logistics partners to secure an additional 80,000 square foot of space at a facility in Belgium which will provide us sufficient capacity to process launch product for footwear for the key brands.” So why is he now making out like it's all a shock? He seen it coming so shouldn't be an issue. The solution is far simpler than all of his huffing and puffing about brexit ... i wonder why he is making such a big fuss about it
He employs a lot of people so it’s better if he’s just says fuck you and let’s people lose their jobs. He’s built up a business through hard work of his own and his staff and Brexit is leading to jobs moving away through no choice of theirs.
What a reward Brexit is for those who will eventually lose their jobs.
Is he closing jd sports in the U.K?
If he isn’t then his Far East imports are still coming into U.K. - and as he states - Rochdale operations not affected - so no job losses .
Think it through tariffs or no tariffs which is cheaper ?
If there is less to do in Rochdale it’s only a matter of time. A thousand jobs is a lot to create from nothing so the work must come from somewhere. He’s not doubling his sales especially not at the min.
He’s angling for subsidy first I’m sure as he’s no idiot
So the guy who runs the 6b business says there will be no changes to Rochdale and you know differently?
BTW, his revenue was up 30% last year on 2019. That's a big jump.
I didn’t say he was struggling he’s very successful.
And all that trade went through Rochdale ?
So why is he even mentioning a new warehouse if all’s well with the world .
Big business is rarely vocal about job losses as we all now.
He’s not doubling up he’s moving the imports to the EU if he goes ahead to cut out tariffs . Or should he stay and pay the tariffs ?
He’s not rich by being careless with cash.
This is where it gets silly.
You're astounded that people won't believe there will be no job losses. Yet we're supposed to believe every statement saying there will be losses. You can't have it both ways.
I don’t say they didn’t believe I said they don’t seem to care. Accepting the worst of a deal as it’s just fine.
You admit he’s a successful man so if all going well why does he feel the need to mention it ? It’s not painting him in a good light to employ in the EU over the U.K. .
You said the ever growing list of losses seem to be dismissed.
Because half of them are bullshit and haven't actually happened. The guy has said there will be no losses and here we have people up in arms because he must be lying.
90% of my business is exporting . We have made people redundant and moved their jobs to Italy and Belgium due to customers not wanting the bother or costs of customs and prefer inside the EU supply.
Don’t tell me it’s bullshit I made them redundant. Their jobs are gone directly due to Brexit. I know of others who I trade with who have the same issue.
The fishing companies are bullshit the cheese bullshit GKN Birmingham 519 jobs re deployed to Europe bullshit. Do you read anything but the daily express.
Two the biggest freight companies in the world have suspended U.K. business so who’s paying for that ? We will be in no doubt be picking up that tab to fill their margin gap. We cause the grief we pay.
The jobs will, go as I said in another post once business gets its sight on the real impact not the finding our way impact. The underlying costs will be paid for by job losses or price rises across the board which again leads to inflation and yes you guessed it job losses. If it’s expensive to trade with us people will not trade with us.
Trade won’t stop overnight we will just lose out across the board relentlessly.
Is it exporting, or simply selling in the EU?
I ask this as a recent article in the FT noted, “The problem is that companies who only sold to Europe were not really exporting. They don’t know what to do now,”
I guess if production is moved to Italy and Belgium then you will continue selling to EU and your true exporting exposure, at only 10%, will become much easier to manage.
It’s exporting by default now for those companies and yes some were totally not ready but they didn’t have time to be ready. They weren’t to,d what to be ready for.
British steeel knew how to export they knew nothing about the quota restrictions from what I’ve been to,d.
HMRC is still not ready. The IT is non existent for the new procedures it’s manual most of the way. The transition as they call it which is just letting imports sail though is because customs haven’t got the capacity to check everything. If they had to stop each load the shops would be empty very quickly.
We won’t move all production abroad as we can’t logistically. Some clients we will lose due to costs and no chance to compete.
Our exports outside the EU are on a level playing field as all our competitors have the same costs.
That is mainly ex U.K. and Italy and unaffected by Brexit.
Note the point we know how to export but due to the mess of the procedures and the total lack of notice even we couldn’t plan anything before the end of December so it was not our fault in anyway.
We know how to export. We ground to a halt on some routes in the first two weeks because HMRC couldn’t cope. There are no queues at Dover because it’s all inland and done before the trucks are allowed to go to the port. There was nothing wrong with our procedures or notes it was the queue.
The standard set by HMRC when they eventually get sorted is two hours after the driver arrives for his paperwork to be ready but we have to submit at least an hour before he arrives so in effect it’s three hours. That’s their target . We have had up to 48 hours some poor bastards are there for a week if there are errors. It used to take 3 mins through Dover. Those trucks running to inland sites and waiting need to be paid for and the forms have to be paid for to submit. It’s all bad for U.K. plc.
Not knowing what to plan for ?
That’s not true is it ... for a whole year or more there was the possibility of come 31december the default situation would be WTO.
There’s plenty of information for that eventuality, in fact the Eu already provide all necessary requirements for paperwork, certs, rules of origin etc. So holding out for something unknown would be kind of a silly position to take.
So we prepare for WTO and it doesn’t happen. Where does that leave the planning FFS think about what you’ve just said. We may as well plan to move everything to China because that didn’t happen either. There was no plan!
We’re talking large organisations that have structures that can’t just pick up a form and get a office junior to fill it in pencil.
... and yet I’m sure the businesses who were anticipating/preparing for a worst case scenario are now in a much better position than those who had their head in the sand.
Ok so you get a contract to build a house on Monday
The owner hasn’t made up their mind what the house is though or how it’s designed. So you get plans for a hundred houses and buy all the materials for a hundred houses .
Sunday night he phoned and says he didn’t want a house he wants a canal boat.
Are you ready for Monday morning?
The principal is like us you can be prepared as much as possible but if you don’t know the rules don’t know the process don’t know the costs there only so much guess work you can apply.
To say business should be prepared shows you are buying the bullshit fed by Gove.
I’ll say it again HMRC still aren’t ready or able to do full customs and they knew more than we did!!
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"On the JD Sports issue: “The group always expect that, for operational purposes, a European warehouse would be required sometime after 2021 with the risks associated with Brexit bringing this decision forward,” Cowgill said. “We are working with our logistics partners to secure an additional 80,000 square foot of space at a facility in Belgium which will provide us sufficient capacity to process launch product for footwear for the key brands.” So why is he now making out like it's all a shock? He seen it coming so shouldn't be an issue. The solution is far simpler than all of his huffing and puffing about brexit ... i wonder why he is making such a big fuss about it
He employs a lot of people so it’s better if he’s just says fuck you and let’s people lose their jobs. He’s built up a business through hard work of his own and his staff and Brexit is leading to jobs moving away through no choice of theirs.
What a reward Brexit is for those who will eventually lose their jobs.
Is he closing jd sports in the U.K?
If he isn’t then his Far East imports are still coming into U.K. - and as he states - Rochdale operations not affected - so no job losses .
Think it through tariffs or no tariffs which is cheaper ?
If there is less to do in Rochdale it’s only a matter of time. A thousand jobs is a lot to create from nothing so the work must come from somewhere. He’s not doubling his sales especially not at the min.
He’s angling for subsidy first I’m sure as he’s no idiot
So the guy who runs the 6b business says there will be no changes to Rochdale and you know differently?
BTW, his revenue was up 30% last year on 2019. That's a big jump.
I didn’t say he was struggling he’s very successful.
And all that trade went through Rochdale ?
So why is he even mentioning a new warehouse if all’s well with the world .
Big business is rarely vocal about job losses as we all now.
He’s not doubling up he’s moving the imports to the EU if he goes ahead to cut out tariffs . Or should he stay and pay the tariffs ?
He’s not rich by being careless with cash.
This is where it gets silly.
You're astounded that people won't believe there will be no job losses. Yet we're supposed to believe every statement saying there will be losses. You can't have it both ways.
I don’t say they didn’t believe I said they don’t seem to care. Accepting the worst of a deal as it’s just fine.
You admit he’s a successful man so if all going well why does he feel the need to mention it ? It’s not painting him in a good light to employ in the EU over the U.K. .
You said the ever growing list of losses seem to be dismissed.
Because half of them are bullshit and haven't actually happened. The guy has said there will be no losses and here we have people up in arms because he must be lying.
90% of my business is exporting . We have made people redundant and moved their jobs to Italy and Belgium due to customers not wanting the bother or costs of customs and prefer inside the EU supply.
Don’t tell me it’s bullshit I made them redundant. Their jobs are gone directly due to Brexit. I know of others who I trade with who have the same issue.
The fishing companies are bullshit the cheese bullshit GKN Birmingham 519 jobs re deployed to Europe bullshit. Do you read anything but the daily express.
Two the biggest freight companies in the world have suspended U.K. business so who’s paying for that ? We will be in no doubt be picking up that tab to fill their margin gap. We cause the grief we pay.
The jobs will, go as I said in another post once business gets its sight on the real impact not the finding our way impact. The underlying costs will be paid for by job losses or price rises across the board which again leads to inflation and yes you guessed it job losses. If it’s expensive to trade with us people will not trade with us.
Trade won’t stop overnight we will just lose out across the board relentlessly.
Is it exporting, or simply selling in the EU?
I ask this as a recent article in the FT noted, “The problem is that companies who only sold to Europe were not really exporting. They don’t know what to do now,”
I guess if production is moved to Italy and Belgium then you will continue selling to EU and your true exporting exposure, at only 10%, will become much easier to manage.
It’s exporting by default now for those companies and yes some were totally not ready but they didn’t have time to be ready. They weren’t to,d what to be ready for.
British steeel knew how to export they knew nothing about the quota restrictions from what I’ve been to,d.
HMRC is still not ready. The IT is non existent for the new procedures it’s manual most of the way. The transition as they call it which is just letting imports sail though is because customs haven’t got the capacity to check everything. If they had to stop each load the shops would be empty very quickly.
We won’t move all production abroad as we can’t logistically. Some clients we will lose due to costs and no chance to compete.
Our exports outside the EU are on a level playing field as all our competitors have the same costs.
That is mainly ex U.K. and Italy and unaffected by Brexit.
Note the point we know how to export but due to the mess of the procedures and the total lack of notice even we couldn’t plan anything before the end of December so it was not our fault in anyway.
We know how to export. We ground to a halt on some routes in the first two weeks because HMRC couldn’t cope. There are no queues at Dover because it’s all inland and done before the trucks are allowed to go to the port. There was nothing wrong with our procedures or notes it was the queue.
The standard set by HMRC when they eventually get sorted is two hours after the driver arrives for his paperwork to be ready but we have to submit at least an hour before he arrives so in effect it’s three hours. That’s their target . We have had up to 48 hours some poor bastards are there for a week if there are errors. It used to take 3 mins through Dover. Those trucks running to inland sites and waiting need to be paid for and the forms have to be paid for to submit. It’s all bad for U.K. plc.
Not knowing what to plan for ?
That’s not true is it ... for a whole year or more there was the possibility of come 31december the default situation would be WTO.
There’s plenty of information for that eventuality, in fact the Eu already provide all necessary requirements for paperwork, certs, rules of origin etc. So holding out for something unknown would be kind of a silly position to take.
So we prepare for WTO and it doesn’t happen. Where does that leave the planning FFS think about what you’ve just said. We may as well plan to move everything to China because that didn’t happen either. There was no plan!
We’re talking large organisations that have structures that can’t just pick up a form and get a office junior to fill it in pencil.
... and yet I’m sure the businesses who were anticipating/preparing for a worst case scenario are now in a much better position than those who had their head in the sand.
Ok so you get a contract to build a house on Monday
The owner hasn’t made up their mind what the house is though or how it’s designed. So you get plans for a hundred houses and buy all the materials for a hundred houses .
Sunday night he phoned and says he didn’t want a house he wants a canal boat.
Are you ready for Monday morning?
The principal is like us you can be prepared as much as possible but if you don’t know the rules don’t know the process don’t know the costs there only so much guess work you can apply.
To say business should be prepared shows you are buying the bullshit fed by Gove.
I’ll say it again HMRC still aren’t ready or able to do full customs and they knew more than we did!!
Why would he ask to build a canal boat when the Eu are only dealing in houses . They haven’t made up an entirely new set of trade requirements have they. You already know what the EU specification is for their most complex house build - there are already built examples around the globe - so if they ask you to build that house you can be prepared, safe in the knowledge that a less complex or similar build will be easier or just as complex in its requirements.
"We know how to build the house but what we got was a canal boat plan from the government on the 24th December barring no resemblance to our existing exports apart fro the names of the forms. Plus a few extras Ok so we know the house needs a kitchen bathroom bedrooms utility etc etc. We get the plans the day before can we start work that day or does the architect have to submit plans for the builder . Have we got enough bricks? Has he got every colour? Does the kitchen fitter know the size of cupboards or where the taps go? He knows they need taps and he’s got some on the van. Has he got every possible choice of oven in his van too? Fuck let’s hope he’s got the full range of toilets too. That’s some van. The point is business has process and you can only plan a process if you know what it is. Everyone can fill out forms but what forms and who do we send them to? Where does the driver go? What is the timing? How much does each bit cost? Can the driver leave as with our other exports electronically? No no stop he has to wait for the agents to submit ,it then get a number then gat a pass for Kent then get a text saying go to an inland border facility if it’s not too full because then you get sent to one even further away. then text he’s there and wait and wait and wait. Ok a text back saying he can enter the site. Sorry we’ve lost you notes or sorry you’ve got the wrong number and after two days oh sorry yes you do have right number. Here’s your papers and your stamp letting you go to Dover. We don’t want queues in Dover do we. Then repeat on the other side . This wasn’t told to us until the 24th December. How do we input that into our computers? How do we cost that for contracts ending 31st December? You can’t even buy software for the new system as it doesn’t work yet and no one is going to invest in the old system as it will shut down at some point. Call the helpline over a disagreement with a ferry company we were told, then get put through to the specialist who didn’t know Immingham was a port. Brilliant helpline there. We won the argument but it delayed the job by nearly a week. We couldn’t plan for what we didn’t know. | |||
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"On the JD Sports issue: “The group always expect that, for operational purposes, a European warehouse would be required sometime after 2021 with the risks associated with Brexit bringing this decision forward,” Cowgill said. “We are working with our logistics partners to secure an additional 80,000 square foot of space at a facility in Belgium which will provide us sufficient capacity to process launch product for footwear for the key brands.” So why is he now making out like it's all a shock? He seen it coming so shouldn't be an issue. The solution is far simpler than all of his huffing and puffing about brexit ... i wonder why he is making such a big fuss about it
He employs a lot of people so it’s better if he’s just says fuck you and let’s people lose their jobs. He’s built up a business through hard work of his own and his staff and Brexit is leading to jobs moving away through no choice of theirs.
What a reward Brexit is for those who will eventually lose their jobs.
Is he closing jd sports in the U.K?
If he isn’t then his Far East imports are still coming into U.K. - and as he states - Rochdale operations not affected - so no job losses .
Think it through tariffs or no tariffs which is cheaper ?
If there is less to do in Rochdale it’s only a matter of time. A thousand jobs is a lot to create from nothing so the work must come from somewhere. He’s not doubling his sales especially not at the min.
He’s angling for subsidy first I’m sure as he’s no idiot
So the guy who runs the 6b business says there will be no changes to Rochdale and you know differently?
BTW, his revenue was up 30% last year on 2019. That's a big jump.
I didn’t say he was struggling he’s very successful.
And all that trade went through Rochdale ?
So why is he even mentioning a new warehouse if all’s well with the world .
Big business is rarely vocal about job losses as we all now.
He’s not doubling up he’s moving the imports to the EU if he goes ahead to cut out tariffs . Or should he stay and pay the tariffs ?
He’s not rich by being careless with cash.
This is where it gets silly.
You're astounded that people won't believe there will be no job losses. Yet we're supposed to believe every statement saying there will be losses. You can't have it both ways.
I don’t say they didn’t believe I said they don’t seem to care. Accepting the worst of a deal as it’s just fine.
You admit he’s a successful man so if all going well why does he feel the need to mention it ? It’s not painting him in a good light to employ in the EU over the U.K. .
You said the ever growing list of losses seem to be dismissed.
Because half of them are bullshit and haven't actually happened. The guy has said there will be no losses and here we have people up in arms because he must be lying.
90% of my business is exporting . We have made people redundant and moved their jobs to Italy and Belgium due to customers not wanting the bother or costs of customs and prefer inside the EU supply.
Don’t tell me it’s bullshit I made them redundant. Their jobs are gone directly due to Brexit. I know of others who I trade with who have the same issue.
The fishing companies are bullshit the cheese bullshit GKN Birmingham 519 jobs re deployed to Europe bullshit. Do you read anything but the daily express.
Two the biggest freight companies in the world have suspended U.K. business so who’s paying for that ? We will be in no doubt be picking up that tab to fill their margin gap. We cause the grief we pay.
The jobs will, go as I said in another post once business gets its sight on the real impact not the finding our way impact. The underlying costs will be paid for by job losses or price rises across the board which again leads to inflation and yes you guessed it job losses. If it’s expensive to trade with us people will not trade with us.
Trade won’t stop overnight we will just lose out across the board relentlessly.
Is it exporting, or simply selling in the EU?
I ask this as a recent article in the FT noted, “The problem is that companies who only sold to Europe were not really exporting. They don’t know what to do now,”
I guess if production is moved to Italy and Belgium then you will continue selling to EU and your true exporting exposure, at only 10%, will become much easier to manage.
It’s exporting by default now for those companies and yes some were totally not ready but they didn’t have time to be ready. They weren’t to,d what to be ready for.
British steeel knew how to export they knew nothing about the quota restrictions from what I’ve been to,d.
HMRC is still not ready. The IT is non existent for the new procedures it’s manual most of the way. The transition as they call it which is just letting imports sail though is because customs haven’t got the capacity to check everything. If they had to stop each load the shops would be empty very quickly.
We won’t move all production abroad as we can’t logistically. Some clients we will lose due to costs and no chance to compete.
Our exports outside the EU are on a level playing field as all our competitors have the same costs.
That is mainly ex U.K. and Italy and unaffected by Brexit.
Note the point we know how to export but due to the mess of the procedures and the total lack of notice even we couldn’t plan anything before the end of December so it was not our fault in anyway.
We know how to export. We ground to a halt on some routes in the first two weeks because HMRC couldn’t cope. There are no queues at Dover because it’s all inland and done before the trucks are allowed to go to the port. There was nothing wrong with our procedures or notes it was the queue.
The standard set by HMRC when they eventually get sorted is two hours after the driver arrives for his paperwork to be ready but we have to submit at least an hour before he arrives so in effect it’s three hours. That’s their target . We have had up to 48 hours some poor bastards are there for a week if there are errors. It used to take 3 mins through Dover. Those trucks running to inland sites and waiting need to be paid for and the forms have to be paid for to submit. It’s all bad for U.K. plc.
Not knowing what to plan for ?
That’s not true is it ... for a whole year or more there was the possibility of come 31december the default situation would be WTO.
There’s plenty of information for that eventuality, in fact the Eu already provide all necessary requirements for paperwork, certs, rules of origin etc. So holding out for something unknown would be kind of a silly position to take.
So we prepare for WTO and it doesn’t happen. Where does that leave the planning FFS think about what you’ve just said. We may as well plan to move everything to China because that didn’t happen either. There was no plan!
We’re talking large organisations that have structures that can’t just pick up a form and get a office junior to fill it in pencil.
... and yet I’m sure the businesses who were anticipating/preparing for a worst case scenario are now in a much better position than those who had their head in the sand.
Ok so you get a contract to build a house on Monday
The owner hasn’t made up their mind what the house is though or how it’s designed. So you get plans for a hundred houses and buy all the materials for a hundred houses .
Sunday night he phoned and says he didn’t want a house he wants a canal boat.
Are you ready for Monday morning?
The principal is like us you can be prepared as much as possible but if you don’t know the rules don’t know the process don’t know the costs there only so much guess work you can apply.
To say business should be prepared shows you are buying the bullshit fed by Gove.
I’ll say it again HMRC still aren’t ready or able to do full customs and they knew more than we did!!
Why would he ask to build a canal boat when the Eu are only dealing in houses . They haven’t made up an entirely new set of trade requirements have they. You already know what the EU specification is for their most complex house build - there are already built examples around the globe - so if they ask you to build that house you can be prepared, safe in the knowledge that a less complex or similar build will be easier or just as complex in its requirements.
We know how to build the house but what we got was a canal boat plan from the government on the 24th December barring no resemblance to our existing exports apart fro the names of the forms. Plus a few extras
Ok so we know the house needs a kitchen bathroom bedrooms utility etc etc.
We get the plans the day before can we start work that day or does the architect have to submit plans for the builder . Have we got enough bricks? Has he got every colour?
Does the kitchen fitter know the size of cupboards or where the taps go?
He knows they need taps and he’s got some on the van. Has he got every possible choice of oven in his van too? Fuck let’s hope he’s got the full range of toilets too. That’s some van.
The point is business has process and you can only plan a process if you know what it is. Everyone can fill out forms but what forms and who do we send them to? Where does the driver go? What is the timing?
How much does each bit cost? Can the driver leave as with our other exports electronically? No no stop he has to wait for the agents to submit ,it then get a number then gat a pass for Kent then get a text saying go to an inland border facility if it’s not too full because then you get sent to one even further away. then text he’s there and wait and wait and wait. Ok a text back saying he can enter the site.
Sorry we’ve lost you notes or sorry you’ve got the wrong number and after two days oh sorry yes you do have right number. Here’s your papers and your stamp letting you go to Dover. We don’t want queues in Dover do we.
Then repeat on the other side .
This wasn’t told to us until the 24th December. How do we input that into our computers? How do we cost that for contracts ending 31st December?
You can’t even buy software for the new system as it doesn’t work yet and no one is going to invest in the old system as it will shut down at some point.
Call the helpline over a disagreement with a ferry company we were told, then get put through to the specialist who didn’t know Immingham was a port. Brilliant helpline there. We won the argument but it delayed the job by nearly a week.
We couldn’t plan for what we didn’t know.
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"Come on Chris..... Help us out here we are still awaiting the positive outcome from the news of a British supermarket chain in Belgium on the verge of closure having had no deliveries since December and Morrison’s and 20 M&S. stores in the EU not receiving good due to mountains of paperwork required. Also the possibility of a large exodus of financial services jobs from London to Europe. We really need to see the all positives of this. You must have at least one..... Brexit is the positive, the rest is all just a mild consequence of that. Some people on here need to get out more ..... Doh!
This is interesting. Aside from the word "brexit" can you elaborate on why brexit itself is positive?
You've heard me quote this before, "will of the people"
How does that relate to brexit? The leave campaigns were based on lies, were illegally funded.
Look at the reasons cite for voting leave. All based on misunderstandings of the EU or flat out lies.
Sounds more like the will of those behind brexit. Who just so happen to be the same people likely to benefit while the rest of us lose out.
And the final point, it was a small minority of the country who voted leave. The majority didn't vote.
You're final point is mute as everyone lives in UK by their own free WILL. Which means abiding by the rules of said nation and the fundamental rule of democracy is the majority vote gets the decision. It was everyone's will.
If you believe a minority voting to make us all less well off is some kind of win. That's fine.
But it's not realistic.
How can people be in so much denial?
We ask this daily when more and more brexit problems move from "project fear" to "is actually happening right now".
It was always gonna happen, never been in doubt. What remainers fail to see is the good side and constantly focus on the bad. Some win an some lose always
We're always asking for the upside. No one has presented anything concrete yet. "1) Blue (more like black) passports. 2) Union Jack decorated GHIC (replacement for EHIC) card. 3) Less traffic on the Holyhead-Dover land bridge. 4) ... (I'm struggling from here) | |||
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