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"Baron Shellfish Limited announces that it is shutting down due to brexit. A 40 year old family business destroyed. So much winning 'eh?" I'm sure this will be blamed on either. A. The EU. B. Remainers. C. The woke brigade. D. The GFA. E. Not enough PMA F. French cafes being closed. My money is on F and A. | |||
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"40 jobs created..everything to do with brexit A shellfish firm closes after weeks of highly published issues relating to the fishing industry directly linked to Brexit and the owner says they took advantage of the common market selling directly to the eu..but there is a lot of uncertainty going on now. Yet it's still apparently nothing to do with brexit. Words fail me at times." I didn't say it was nothing to do with Brexit but if the man himself doesn't say it, why do other people think they know. Businesses close everyday. For a wide variety of reasons | |||
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"40 jobs created..everything to do with brexit A shellfish firm closes after weeks of highly published issues relating to the fishing industry directly linked to Brexit and the owner says they took advantage of the common market selling directly to the eu..but there is a lot of uncertainty going on now. Yet it's still apparently nothing to do with brexit. Words fail me at times. I didn't say it was nothing to do with Brexit but if the man himself doesn't say it, why do other people think they know. Businesses close everyday. For a wide variety of reasons "He basically says trade was good with the Eu and it's now gone to shit. What other reason could it possibly be? | |||
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"40 jobs created..everything to do with brexit A shellfish firm closes after weeks of highly published issues relating to the fishing industry directly linked to Brexit and the owner says they took advantage of the common market selling directly to the eu..but there is a lot of uncertainty going on now. Yet it's still apparently nothing to do with brexit. Words fail me at times. I didn't say it was nothing to do with Brexit but if the man himself doesn't say it, why do other people think they know. Businesses close everyday. For a wide variety of reasons "So it's purely coincidental this occurs shortly after substantial barriers to getting the goods to market was imposed? | |||
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"H. Covid" I. Storm Darcy | |||
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"J. Tax Bill due K. Shit businessman L. He also has a T/A business M. Lost suppliers Could be any number of reasons" Indeed, could literally be anything except brexit. | |||
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"J. Tax Bill due K. Shit businessman L. He also has a T/A business M. Lost suppliers Could be any number of reasons Indeed, could literally be anything except brexit. " Again, I didn't say it wasn't anything to do with brexit | |||
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"G. Complete denial." brexaholism | |||
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"J. Tax Bill due K. Shit businessman L. He also has a T/A business M. Lost suppliers Could be any number of reasons Indeed, could literally be anything except brexit. Again, I didn't say it wasn't anything to do with brexit "N. Blame anyone and anything else but just don’t blame the consequences of Brexit.... Because we have our heads stuck firmly in the sand. | |||
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"At no point does Sam Baron quote anything to do with Brexit as the reason for closing. Fuck, the guy doesn't even mention Brexit "That is simply untrue. Here's his quote "People say Boris has tried his best, but it just hasn’t been enough,” he said. “It’s the extra costs and uncertainty. We have to fill in new health notes, and there is a lot of new paperwork, including the catch certificates. Every time you put lobsters on transport, if anything in the paperwork is wrong, you have lost everything. “It is all Brexit-related – the extra costs, extra paperwork and the extra gamble, and it is down to the government and the EU." | |||
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"G. Complete denial. brexaholism" | |||
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"I blame the snow on brexit and covid, we didn't have either as bad before brexit, so it must be brexit! "Good news for plastic sledge and snow shovel importers   | |||
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"At no point does Sam Baron quote anything to do with Brexit as the reason for closing. Fuck, the guy doesn't even mention Brexit
That is simply untrue.
Here's his quote
"People say Boris has tried his best, but it just hasn’t been enough,” he said. “It’s the extra costs and uncertainty. We have to fill in new health notes, and there is a lot of new paperwork, including the catch certificates. Every time you put lobsters on transport, if anything in the paperwork is wrong, you have lost everything.
“It is all Brexit-related – the extra costs, extra paperwork and the extra gamble, and it is down to the government and the EU.""Just seen the Guardian piece which I hadn't seen before. He also says he wishes we'd never joined the EU in the first place and that his dad might have got his shotgun out because it's not what they were promised. Sounds charming | |||
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"I blame the snow on brexit and covid, we didn't have either as bad before brexit, so it must be brexit! "What snow? | |||
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"I blame the snow on brexit and covid, we didn't have either as bad before brexit, so it must be brexit!
What snow? "H. Lack of snow.   | |||
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"At no point does Sam Baron quote anything to do with Brexit as the reason for closing. Fuck, the guy doesn't even mention Brexit
That is simply untrue.
Here's his quote
"People say Boris has tried his best, but it just hasn’t been enough,” he said. “It’s the extra costs and uncertainty. We have to fill in new health notes, and there is a lot of new paperwork, including the catch certificates. Every time you put lobsters on transport, if anything in the paperwork is wrong, you have lost everything.
“It is all Brexit-related – the extra costs, extra paperwork and the extra gamble, and it is down to the government and the EU."
Just seen the Guardian piece which I hadn't seen before.
He also says he wishes we'd never joined the EU in the first place and that his dad might have got his shotgun out because it's not what they were promised.
Sounds charming "He seems to forget that the person best placed to help fishermen out in the EU was Herr Farage, who couldn't give a stuff | |||
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"Where will I get my lobster now when the pound goes up by 0.03% ?" https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/business/owner-first-lobster-tank-business-europes-largest-shellfish-port-forced-close-due-brexit-restraints-3127061 Not from Yorkshire | |||
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"At no point does Sam Baron quote anything to do with Brexit as the reason for closing. Fuck, the guy doesn't even mention Brexit
That is simply untrue.
Here's his quote
"People say Boris has tried his best, but it just hasn’t been enough,” he said. “It’s the extra costs and uncertainty. We have to fill in new health notes, and there is a lot of new paperwork, including the catch certificates. Every time you put lobsters on transport, if anything in the paperwork is wrong, you have lost everything.
“It is all Brexit-related – the extra costs, extra paperwork and the extra gamble, and it is down to the government and the EU."
Just seen the Guardian piece which I hadn't seen before.
He also says he wishes we'd never joined the EU in the first place and that his dad might have got his shotgun out because it's not what they were promised.
Sounds charming "Sounds like he's now being asked to do things properly with invoices. And we all know invoices lead to taxes. | |||
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"At no point does Sam Baron quote anything to do with Brexit as the reason for closing. Fuck, the guy doesn't even mention Brexit
That is simply untrue.
Here's his quote
"People say Boris has tried his best, but it just hasn’t been enough,” he said. “It’s the extra costs and uncertainty. We have to fill in new health notes, and there is a lot of new paperwork, including the catch certificates. Every time you put lobsters on transport, if anything in the paperwork is wrong, you have lost everything.
“It is all Brexit-related – the extra costs, extra paperwork and the extra gamble, and it is down to the government and the EU."
Just seen the Guardian piece which I hadn't seen before.
He also says he wishes we'd never joined the EU in the first place and that his dad might have got his shotgun out because it's not what they were promised.
Sounds charming
Sounds like he's now being asked to do things properly with invoices. And we all know invoices lead to taxes. "So now the business is closing because he been cheating on his taxes? I hope you're a troll, for your own sake. | |||
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"Baron Shellfish Limited announces that it is shutting down due to brexit. A 40 year old family business destroyed. So much winning 'eh?" Have you heard of covid? | |||
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"Baron Shellfish Limited announces that it is shutting down due to brexit. A 40 year old family business destroyed. So much winning 'eh?Have you heard of covid?" Another vote for option H. | |||
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"At no point does Sam Baron quote anything to do with Brexit as the reason for closing. Fuck, the guy doesn't even mention Brexit
That is simply untrue.
Here's his quote
"People say Boris has tried his best, but it just hasn’t been enough,” he said. “It’s the extra costs and uncertainty. We have to fill in new health notes, and there is a lot of new paperwork, including the catch certificates. Every time you put lobsters on transport, if anything in the paperwork is wrong, you have lost everything.
“It is all Brexit-related – the extra costs, extra paperwork and the extra gamble, and it is down to the government and the EU."
Just seen the Guardian piece which I hadn't seen before.
He also says he wishes we'd never joined the EU in the first place and that his dad might have got his shotgun out because it's not what they were promised.
Sounds charming
Sounds like he's now being asked to do things properly with invoices. And we all know invoices lead to taxes. "So prior to Brexit shellfish exporters could happily export without having to produce invoices or customs declarations ..... | |||
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"At no point does Sam Baron quote anything to do with Brexit as the reason for closing. Fuck, the guy doesn't even mention Brexit
That is simply untrue.
Here's his quote
"People say Boris has tried his best, but it just hasn’t been enough,” he said. “It’s the extra costs and uncertainty. We have to fill in new health notes, and there is a lot of new paperwork, including the catch certificates. Every time you put lobsters on transport, if anything in the paperwork is wrong, you have lost everything.
“It is all Brexit-related – the extra costs, extra paperwork and the extra gamble, and it is down to the government and the EU."
Just seen the Guardian piece which I hadn't seen before.
He also says he wishes we'd never joined the EU in the first place and that his dad might have got his shotgun out because it's not what they were promised.
Sounds charming
Sounds like he's now being asked to do things properly with invoices. And we all know invoices lead to taxes.
So prior to Brexit shellfish exporters could happily export without having to produce invoices or customs declarations .....
"You were happily telling us last week how we used to be able to do it all with one piece of paper. Can't have it both ways chum. | |||
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"At no point does Sam Baron quote anything to do with Brexit as the reason for closing. Fuck, the guy doesn't even mention Brexit
That is simply untrue.
Here's his quote
"People say Boris has tried his best, but it just hasn’t been enough,” he said. “It’s the extra costs and uncertainty. We have to fill in new health notes, and there is a lot of new paperwork, including the catch certificates. Every time you put lobsters on transport, if anything in the paperwork is wrong, you have lost everything.
“It is all Brexit-related – the extra costs, extra paperwork and the extra gamble, and it is down to the government and the EU."
Just seen the Guardian piece which I hadn't seen before.
He also says he wishes we'd never joined the EU in the first place and that his dad might have got his shotgun out because it's not what they were promised.
Sounds charming
Sounds like he's now being asked to do things properly with invoices. And we all know invoices lead to taxes.
So prior to Brexit shellfish exporters could happily export without having to produce invoices or customs declarations .....
You were happily telling us last week how we used to be able to do it all with one piece of paper.
Can't have it both ways chum. "Pre Brexit Invoice - 1 page Customs declaration - 1 page Post Brexit 71 Pages. However that doesn’t take away from the fact that you accused the exporter of not producing invoices to avoid tax. When clearly you would need too to actually export. Taking of credibility, pound is at 1.1379 as of 14:55 | |||
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"At no point does Sam Baron quote anything to do with Brexit as the reason for closing. Fuck, the guy doesn't even mention Brexit
That is simply untrue.
Here's his quote
"People say Boris has tried his best, but it just hasn’t been enough,” he said. “It’s the extra costs and uncertainty. We have to fill in new health notes, and there is a lot of new paperwork, including the catch certificates. Every time you put lobsters on transport, if anything in the paperwork is wrong, you have lost everything.
“It is all Brexit-related – the extra costs, extra paperwork and the extra gamble, and it is down to the government and the EU."
Just seen the Guardian piece which I hadn't seen before.
He also says he wishes we'd never joined the EU in the first place and that his dad might have got his shotgun out because it's not what they were promised.
Sounds charming
Sounds like he's now being asked to do things properly with invoices. And we all know invoices lead to taxes.
So prior to Brexit shellfish exporters could happily export without having to produce invoices or customs declarations .....
You were happily telling us last week how we used to be able to do it all with one piece of paper.
Can't have it both ways chum.
Pre Brexit
Invoice - 1 page
Customs declaration - 1 page
Post Brexit
71 Pages.
However that doesn’t take away from the fact that you accused the exporter of not producing invoices to avoid tax.
When clearly you would need too to actually export.
Taking of credibility,
pound is at 1.1379 as of 14:55
"And I've said last week that shellfish are very dangerous and there needs to be checks to avoid poisoning people, haven't changed my view. | |||
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"At no point does Sam Baron quote anything to do with Brexit as the reason for closing. Fuck, the guy doesn't even mention Brexit
That is simply untrue.
Here's his quote
"People say Boris has tried his best, but it just hasn’t been enough,” he said. “It’s the extra costs and uncertainty. We have to fill in new health notes, and there is a lot of new paperwork, including the catch certificates. Every time you put lobsters on transport, if anything in the paperwork is wrong, you have lost everything.
“It is all Brexit-related – the extra costs, extra paperwork and the extra gamble, and it is down to the government and the EU."
Just seen the Guardian piece which I hadn't seen before.
He also says he wishes we'd never joined the EU in the first place and that his dad might have got his shotgun out because it's not what they were promised.
Sounds charming
Sounds like he's now being asked to do things properly with invoices. And we all know invoices lead to taxes.
So prior to Brexit shellfish exporters could happily export without having to produce invoices or customs declarations .....
You were happily telling us last week how we used to be able to do it all with one piece of paper.
Can't have it both ways chum.
Pre Brexit
Invoice - 1 page
Customs declaration - 1 page
Post Brexit
71 Pages.
However that doesn’t take away from the fact that you accused the exporter of not producing invoices to avoid tax.
When clearly you would need too to actually export.
Taking of credibility,
pound is at 1.1379 as of 14:55
And I've said last week that shellfish are very dangerous and there needs to be checks to avoid poisoning people, haven't changed my view. "Shellfish may very well be dangerous to eat unpurified. That is just a distraction from the amount of paperwork now required to export them to a purification plant with the EU. The plants operated on economies of scale with using multiple shellfish suppliers. Undoubtedly someone could set up an operation in the UK to serve the UK shellfishing industry but theses take time to establish. Even if there ones that already serve they will probably need to expand. These are not the sort of things you can just buy off Amazon and start trading tomorrow. No doubt they will all have a colossal amount of additional post Brexit administration to deal with for EU exports. Do you really believe a exporter of over 40 years was fiddling his taxes by not producing invoices. | |||
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"At no point does Sam Baron quote anything to do with Brexit as the reason for closing. Fuck, the guy doesn't even mention Brexit
That is simply untrue.
Here's his quote
"People say Boris has tried his best, but it just hasn’t been enough,” he said. “It’s the extra costs and uncertainty. We have to fill in new health notes, and there is a lot of new paperwork, including the catch certificates. Every time you put lobsters on transport, if anything in the paperwork is wrong, you have lost everything.
“It is all Brexit-related – the extra costs, extra paperwork and the extra gamble, and it is down to the government and the EU.""Ahh but ahh but if he didn't specifically say the B word then it's Frances Air Traffic Controllers fault, and Junkers, not the B word | |||
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"Baron Shellfish Limited announces that it is shutting down due to brexit. A 40 year old family business destroyed. So much winning 'eh?Have you heard of covid?" Yes (and way more than you know) However seafood is immune to it. The man has stated ( and it's above as a quote) that it's closing because of brexit. | |||
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"you can get salmon 5 quid a kilo on Stockton market smoked who needs the eu" Who needs the EU? Farmers Car manufacturers Chemical industry Fishermen The company that was on Look North who manufacturers barrel closures Cheese makers Car part manufacturers That's a short list. | |||
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"you can get salmon 5 quid a kilo on Stockton market smoked who needs the eu Who needs the EU? Farmers Car manufacturers Chemical industry Fishermen The company that was on Look North who manufacturers barrel closures Cheese makers Car part manufacturers That's a short list. " Failed politicians | |||
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"you can get salmon 5 quid a kilo on Stockton market smoked who needs the eu Who needs the EU? Farmers Car manufacturers Chemical industry Fishermen The company that was on Look North who manufacturers barrel closures Cheese makers Car part manufacturers That's a short list. Failed politicians "  | |||
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"you can get salmon 5 quid a kilo on Stockton market smoked who needs the eu Who needs the EU? Farmers Car manufacturers Chemical industry Fishermen The company that was on Look North who manufacturers barrel closures Cheese makers Car part manufacturers That's a short list. Failed politicians " Political failure is failure to be elected. | |||
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"you can get salmon 5 quid a kilo on Stockton market smoked who needs the eu Who needs the EU? Farmers Car manufacturers Chemical industry Fishermen The company that was on Look North who manufacturers barrel closures Cheese makers Car part manufacturers That's a short list. Failed politicians Political failure is failure to be elected." Like Farage? | |||
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"you can get salmon 5 quid a kilo on Stockton market smoked who needs the eu Who needs the EU? Farmers Car manufacturers Chemical industry Fishermen The company that was on Look North who manufacturers barrel closures Cheese makers Car part manufacturers That's a short list. Failed politicians Political failure is failure to be elected." It's amazing how people can climb a political ladder to nearly the highest level yet jealous people claim it to be failure. I wonder if they have personally achieved as much failure as the EU politicians | |||
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"you can get salmon 5 quid a kilo on Stockton market smoked who needs the eu Who needs the EU? Farmers Car manufacturers Chemical industry Fishermen The company that was on Look North who manufacturers barrel closures Cheese makers Car part manufacturers That's a short list. Failed politicians Political failure is failure to be elected. It's amazing how people can climb a political ladder to nearly the highest level yet jealous people claim it to be failure. I wonder if they have personally achieved as much failure as the EU politicians "I think if you study at college in decorating then win a contract to paint a house but then break every window in the house you may well be a decorator but you are a failed decorator ! | |||
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"you can get salmon 5 quid a kilo on Stockton market smoked who needs the eu Who needs the EU? Farmers Car manufacturers Chemical industry Fishermen The company that was on Look North who manufacturers barrel closures Cheese makers Car part manufacturers That's a short list. " thats not actually true, they dont NEED the eu, its a market but there are other markets, yes its our biggest market at present but it might not always be. Im not pro or anti brexit but we import more than we export, so make what we did import? and just stick a french label on it or a merc badge coz most people cant tell the difference. Most Men cant with me once slightly d*unk and its a bit dark.... lol | |||
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"you can get salmon 5 quid a kilo on Stockton market smoked who needs the eu Who needs the EU? Farmers Car manufacturers Chemical industry Fishermen The company that was on Look North who manufacturers barrel closures Cheese makers Car part manufacturers That's a short list. thats not actually true, they dont NEED the eu, its a market but there are other markets, yes its our biggest market at present but it might not always be. Im not pro or anti brexit but we import more than we export, so make what we did import? and just stick a french label on it or a merc badge coz most people cant tell the difference. Most Men cant with me once slightly d*unk and its a bit dark.... lol " | |||
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"you can get salmon 5 quid a kilo on Stockton market smoked who needs the eu Who needs the EU? Farmers Car manufacturers Chemical industry Fishermen The company that was on Look North who manufacturers barrel closures Cheese makers Car part manufacturers That's a short list. thats not actually true, they dont NEED the eu, its a market but there are other markets, yes its our biggest market at present but it might not always be. Im not pro or anti brexit but we import more than we export, so make what we did import? and just stick a french label on it or a merc badge coz most people cant tell the difference. Most Men cant with me once slightly d*unk and its a bit dark.... lol "Yes but are they d*unk on cheap carling or a fine French brandy? Which is going to taste better in that kiss? | |||
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"Baron Shellfish Limited announces that it is shutting down due to brexit. A 40 year old family business destroyed. So much winning 'eh?Have you heard of covid?" Did it start in January? | |||
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"you can get salmon 5 quid a kilo on Stockton market smoked who needs the eu" The people who are seeing their livelihoods going down the Swanee? | |||
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"you can get salmon 5 quid a kilo on Stockton market smoked who needs the eu The people who are seeing their livelihoods going down the Swanee?" 2 years from now and all this extra paperwork will be a doddle to all of em. | |||
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"you can get salmon 5 quid a kilo on Stockton market smoked who needs the eu The people who are seeing their livelihoods going down the Swanee?" Failed UK politicians. . And gravy salesmen. | |||
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"you can get salmon 5 quid a kilo on Stockton market smoked who needs the eu The people who are seeing their livelihoods going down the Swanee?" I'll say it again. No one cared when the EU, and yes it was the EU made changes to my industry in 2016. In fact most of you probably never even heard about the changes. What happened? We adapted and overcame. That's what businesses do | |||
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"you can get salmon 5 quid a kilo on Stockton market smoked who needs the eu The people who are seeing their livelihoods going down the Swanee? I'll say it again. No one cared when the EU, and yes it was the EU made changes to my industry in 2016. In fact most of you probably never even heard about the changes. What happened? We adapted and overcame. That's what businesses do " And what changes did they make? We’re you given plenty of notice? | |||
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"you can get salmon 5 quid a kilo on Stockton market smoked who needs the eu The people who are seeing their livelihoods going down the Swanee? 2 years from now and all this extra paperwork will be a doddle to all of em." 2 years? | |||
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"you can get salmon 5 quid a kilo on Stockton market smoked who needs the eu The people who are seeing their livelihoods going down the Swanee? 2 years from now and all this extra paperwork will be a doddle to all of em." That will be a consolation to them | |||
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"you can get salmon 5 quid a kilo on Stockton market smoked who needs the eu The people who are seeing their livelihoods going down the Swanee? I'll say it again. No one cared when the EU, and yes it was the EU made changes to my industry in 2016. In fact most of you probably never even heard about the changes. What happened? We adapted and overcame. That's what businesses do " Why did boris not say this before we left? Did he say..actually when we leave we are going to have a few significant problems? | |||
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"you can get salmon 5 quid a kilo on Stockton market smoked who needs the eu The people who are seeing their livelihoods going down the Swanee? I'll say it again. No one cared when the EU, and yes it was the EU made changes to my industry in 2016. In fact most of you probably never even heard about the changes. What happened? We adapted and overcame. That's what businesses do And what changes did they make? We’re you given plenty of notice?" We had to come up with a new product that didn't exist before to be within the law. We were given notice yes. MHRA gave us the maximum notice allowed | |||
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"you can get salmon 5 quid a kilo on Stockton market smoked who needs the eu The people who are seeing their livelihoods going down the Swanee? I'll say it again. No one cared when the EU, and yes it was the EU made changes to my industry in 2016. In fact most of you probably never even heard about the changes. What happened? We adapted and overcame. That's what businesses do Why did boris not say this before we left? Did he say..actually when we leave we are going to have a few significant problems?" He has promised to do all the paper work for them  | |||
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"you can get salmon 5 quid a kilo on Stockton market smoked who needs the eu The people who are seeing their livelihoods going down the Swanee? I'll say it again. No one cared when the EU, and yes it was the EU made changes to my industry in 2016. In fact most of you probably never even heard about the changes. What happened? We adapted and overcame. That's what businesses do And what changes did they make? We’re you given plenty of notice? We had to come up with a new product that didn't exist before to be within the law. We were given notice yes. MHRA gave us the maximum notice allowed" Was that longer than a week? | |||
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"you can get salmon 5 quid a kilo on Stockton market smoked who needs the eu The people who are seeing their livelihoods going down the Swanee? I'll say it again. No one cared when the EU, and yes it was the EU made changes to my industry in 2016. In fact most of you probably never even heard about the changes. What happened? We adapted and overcame. That's what businesses do And what changes did they make? We’re you given plenty of notice? We had to come up with a new product that didn't exist before to be within the law. We were given notice yes. MHRA gave us the maximum notice allowed Was that longer than a week? " Yes it was but the point is, changes happen both in and out of the EU. Anyway, business worth their salt will find a way out of it. | |||
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"you can get salmon 5 quid a kilo on Stockton market smoked who needs the eu The people who are seeing their livelihoods going down the Swanee? I'll say it again. No one cared when the EU, and yes it was the EU made changes to my industry in 2016. In fact most of you probably never even heard about the changes. What happened? We adapted and overcame. That's what businesses do And what changes did they make? We’re you given plenty of notice? We had to come up with a new product that didn't exist before to be within the law. We were given notice yes. MHRA gave us the maximum notice allowed Was that longer than a week? Yes it was but the point is, changes happen both in and out of the EU. Anyway, business worth their salt will find a way out of it." Would you have been able to implement the changes required in a week? | |||
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"you can get salmon 5 quid a kilo on Stockton market smoked who needs the eu The people who are seeing their livelihoods going down the Swanee? I'll say it again. No one cared when the EU, and yes it was the EU made changes to my industry in 2016. In fact most of you probably never even heard about the changes. What happened? We adapted and overcame. That's what businesses do And what changes did they make? We’re you given plenty of notice? We had to come up with a new product that didn't exist before to be within the law. We were given notice yes. MHRA gave us the maximum notice allowed Was that longer than a week? Yes it was but the point is, changes happen both in and out of the EU. Anyway, business worth their salt will find a way out of it." So it is the businesses fault they are struggling due to Brexit? | |||
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"you can get salmon 5 quid a kilo on Stockton market smoked who needs the eu The people who are seeing their livelihoods going down the Swanee? I'll say it again. No one cared when the EU, and yes it was the EU made changes to my industry in 2016. In fact most of you probably never even heard about the changes. What happened? We adapted and overcame. That's what businesses do And what changes did they make? We’re you given plenty of notice? We had to come up with a new product that didn't exist before to be within the law. We were given notice yes. MHRA gave us the maximum notice allowed Was that longer than a week? Yes it was but the point is, changes happen both in and out of the EU. Anyway, business worth their salt will find a way out of it. Would you have been able to implement the changes required in a week? " We needed to formulate a new product. It could've been done within a week yes but it still needed someone to 'invent' it first. How quickly that happened I can't remember. We were doing business with the new product way before the regs took place | |||
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"you can get salmon 5 quid a kilo on Stockton market smoked who needs the eu The people who are seeing their livelihoods going down the Swanee? I'll say it again. No one cared when the EU, and yes it was the EU made changes to my industry in 2016. In fact most of you probably never even heard about the changes. What happened? We adapted and overcame. That's what businesses do And what changes did they make? We’re you given plenty of notice? We had to come up with a new product that didn't exist before to be within the law. We were given notice yes. MHRA gave us the maximum notice allowed Was that longer than a week? Yes it was but the point is, changes happen both in and out of the EU. Anyway, business worth their salt will find a way out of it. So it is the businesses fault they are struggling due to Brexit? " I didn't say it was their fault. I said any business worth their salt will find a way out | |||
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"you can get salmon 5 quid a kilo on Stockton market smoked who needs the eu The people who are seeing their livelihoods going down the Swanee? I'll say it again. No one cared when the EU, and yes it was the EU made changes to my industry in 2016. In fact most of you probably never even heard about the changes. What happened? We adapted and overcame. That's what businesses do And what changes did they make? We’re you given plenty of notice? We had to come up with a new product that didn't exist before to be within the law. We were given notice yes. MHRA gave us the maximum notice allowed" How long was the notice and was the new rule specific in detail rather than just general idea with a specific update one week before the law was applied? Did you have to employ new outside contractors to continue your business ? Also did it affect 100% of your business like the fish company? | |||
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"you can get salmon 5 quid a kilo on Stockton market smoked who needs the eu The people who are seeing their livelihoods going down the Swanee? I'll say it again. No one cared when the EU, and yes it was the EU made changes to my industry in 2016. In fact most of you probably never even heard about the changes. What happened? We adapted and overcame. That's what businesses do And what changes did they make? We’re you given plenty of notice? We had to come up with a new product that didn't exist before to be within the law. We were given notice yes. MHRA gave us the maximum notice allowed Was that longer than a week? Yes it was but the point is, changes happen both in and out of the EU. Anyway, business worth their salt will find a way out of it. So it is the businesses fault they are struggling due to Brexit? I didn't say it was their fault. I said any business worth their salt will find a way out" So the businesses that are struggling ‘aren’t worth their salt’? Let’s be honest here, Brexit has shafted them , I think the government and leave voters should apologies to them | |||
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"you can get salmon 5 quid a kilo on Stockton market smoked who needs the eu The people who are seeing their livelihoods going down the Swanee? I'll say it again. No one cared when the EU, and yes it was the EU made changes to my industry in 2016. In fact most of you probably never even heard about the changes. What happened? We adapted and overcame. That's what businesses do And what changes did they make? We’re you given plenty of notice? We had to come up with a new product that didn't exist before to be within the law. We were given notice yes. MHRA gave us the maximum notice allowed How long was the notice and was the new rule specific in detail rather than just general idea with a specific update one week before the law was applied? Did you have to employ new outside contractors to continue your business ? Also did it affect 100% of your business like the fish company? " I think you're all missing the point. The change was made and no one gave a fuck because they didn't even know about it. The sole reason this is news is because of the timing. | |||
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"you can get salmon 5 quid a kilo on Stockton market smoked who needs the eu The people who are seeing their livelihoods going down the Swanee? I'll say it again. No one cared when the EU, and yes it was the EU made changes to my industry in 2016. In fact most of you probably never even heard about the changes. What happened? We adapted and overcame. That's what businesses do And what changes did they make? We’re you given plenty of notice? We had to come up with a new product that didn't exist before to be within the law. We were given notice yes. MHRA gave us the maximum notice allowed How long was the notice and was the new rule specific in detail rather than just general idea with a specific update one week before the law was applied? Did you have to employ new outside contractors to continue your business ? Also did it affect 100% of your business like the fish company? I think you're all missing the point. The change was made and no one gave a fuck because they didn't even know about it. The sole reason this is news is because of the timing. " Do you ‘give a fuck ‘ about the businesses that are now struggling due to Brexit? | |||
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"you can get salmon 5 quid a kilo on Stockton market smoked who needs the eu The people who are seeing their livelihoods going down the Swanee? I'll say it again. No one cared when the EU, and yes it was the EU made changes to my industry in 2016. In fact most of you probably never even heard about the changes. What happened? We adapted and overcame. That's what businesses do And what changes did they make? We’re you given plenty of notice? We had to come up with a new product that didn't exist before to be within the law. We were given notice yes. MHRA gave us the maximum notice allowed How long was the notice and was the new rule specific in detail rather than just general idea with a specific update one week before the law was applied? Did you have to employ new outside contractors to continue your business ? Also did it affect 100% of your business like the fish company? I think you're all missing the point. The change was made and no one gave a fuck because they didn't even know about it. The sole reason this is news is because of the timing. Do you ‘give a fuck ‘ about the businesses that are now struggling due to Brexit? " Why would that matter? | |||
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"you can get salmon 5 quid a kilo on Stockton market smoked who needs the eu The people who are seeing their livelihoods going down the Swanee? I'll say it again. No one cared when the EU, and yes it was the EU made changes to my industry in 2016. In fact most of you probably never even heard about the changes. What happened? We adapted and overcame. That's what businesses do And what changes did they make? We’re you given plenty of notice? We had to come up with a new product that didn't exist before to be within the law. We were given notice yes. MHRA gave us the maximum notice allowed How long was the notice and was the new rule specific in detail rather than just general idea with a specific update one week before the law was applied? Did you have to employ new outside contractors to continue your business ? Also did it affect 100% of your business like the fish company? I think you're all missing the point. The change was made and no one gave a fuck because they didn't even know about it. The sole reason this is news is because of the timing. Do you ‘give a fuck ‘ about the businesses that are now struggling due to Brexit? Why would that matter?" Because ‘giving a fuck’ is the point of your post ? | |||
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"you can get salmon 5 quid a kilo on Stockton market smoked who needs the eu The people who are seeing their livelihoods going down the Swanee? I'll say it again. No one cared when the EU, and yes it was the EU made changes to my industry in 2016. In fact most of you probably never even heard about the changes. What happened? We adapted and overcame. That's what businesses do Why did boris not say this before we left? Did he say..actually when we leave we are going to have a few significant problems? He has promised to do all the paper work for them "There is a clip of him telling people to bin the paperwork on northern Ireland. | |||
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"you can get salmon 5 quid a kilo on Stockton market smoked who needs the eu The people who are seeing their livelihoods going down the Swanee? I'll say it again. No one cared when the EU, and yes it was the EU made changes to my industry in 2016. In fact most of you probably never even heard about the changes. What happened? We adapted and overcame. That's what businesses do And what changes did they make? We’re you given plenty of notice? We had to come up with a new product that didn't exist before to be within the law. We were given notice yes. MHRA gave us the maximum notice allowed Was that longer than a week? Yes it was but the point is, changes happen both in and out of the EU. Anyway, business worth their salt will find a way out of it. So it is the businesses fault they are struggling due to Brexit? I didn't say it was their fault. I said any business worth their salt will find a way out"  | |||
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"you can get salmon 5 quid a kilo on Stockton market smoked who needs the eu The people who are seeing their livelihoods going down the Swanee? I'll say it again. No one cared when the EU, and yes it was the EU made changes to my industry in 2016. In fact most of you probably never even heard about the changes. What happened? We adapted and overcame. That's what businesses do And what changes did they make? We’re you given plenty of notice? We had to come up with a new product that didn't exist before to be within the law. We were given notice yes. MHRA gave us the maximum notice allowed How long was the notice and was the new rule specific in detail rather than just general idea with a specific update one week before the law was applied? Did you have to employ new outside contractors to continue your business ? Also did it affect 100% of your business like the fish company? I think you're all missing the point. The change was made and no one gave a fuck because they didn't even know about it. The sole reason this is news is because of the timing. Do you ‘give a fuck ‘ about the businesses that are now struggling due to Brexit? Why would that matter? Because ‘giving a fuck’ is the point of your post ? " Well I'm not shouting and screaming about it. But I didn't in 2016 either. | |||
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"you can get salmon 5 quid a kilo on Stockton market smoked who needs the eu The people who are seeing their livelihoods going down the Swanee? I'll say it again. No one cared when the EU, and yes it was the EU made changes to my industry in 2016. In fact most of you probably never even heard about the changes. What happened? We adapted and overcame. That's what businesses do Why did boris not say this before we left? Did he say..actually when we leave we are going to have a few significant problems? He has promised to do all the paper work for them
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"you can get salmon 5 quid a kilo on Stockton market smoked who needs the eu The people who are seeing their livelihoods going down the Swanee? I'll say it again. No one cared when the EU, and yes it was the EU made changes to my industry in 2016. In fact most of you probably never even heard about the changes. What happened? We adapted and overcame. That's what businesses do And what changes did they make? We’re you given plenty of notice? We had to come up with a new product that didn't exist before to be within the law. We were given notice yes. MHRA gave us the maximum notice allowed How long was the notice and was the new rule specific in detail rather than just general idea with a specific update one week before the law was applied? Did you have to employ new outside contractors to continue your business ? Also did it affect 100% of your business like the fish company? I think you're all missing the point. The change was made and no one gave a fuck because they didn't even know about it. The sole reason this is news is because of the timing. " Rules change constantly in industry and with us rules change across all the countries we deal and we are highly regulated that’s just general business development. Those rule changes would not have been made at minimum notice and certainly not with a risk of shutting your business as our general rule changes don’t either. Brexit sadly is doing exactly that because there was no plan and the result is catastrophic for business. Yet another customer today said they are wanting to stop dealing with the U.K. by the end of the year so it’s our call on walk away or yet again source elsewhere. This is becoming nuts !! | |||
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"you can get salmon 5 quid a kilo on Stockton market smoked who needs the eu The people who are seeing their livelihoods going down the Swanee? I'll say it again. No one cared when the EU, and yes it was the EU made changes to my industry in 2016. In fact most of you probably never even heard about the changes. What happened? We adapted and overcame. That's what businesses do And what changes did they make? We’re you given plenty of notice? We had to come up with a new product that didn't exist before to be within the law. We were given notice yes. MHRA gave us the maximum notice allowed How long was the notice and was the new rule specific in detail rather than just general idea with a specific update one week before the law was applied? Did you have to employ new outside contractors to continue your business ? Also did it affect 100% of your business like the fish company? I think you're all missing the point. The change was made and no one gave a fuck because they didn't even know about it. The sole reason this is news is because of the timing. Do you ‘give a fuck ‘ about the businesses that are now struggling due to Brexit? Why would that matter? Because ‘giving a fuck’ is the point of your post ? Well I'm not shouting and screaming about it. But I didn't in 2016 either." Maybe you should have, did the company you worked for go out of business? | |||
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"you can get salmon 5 quid a kilo on Stockton market smoked who needs the eu The people who are seeing their livelihoods going down the Swanee? I'll say it again. No one cared when the EU, and yes it was the EU made changes to my industry in 2016. In fact most of you probably never even heard about the changes. What happened? We adapted and overcame. That's what businesses do And what changes did they make? We’re you given plenty of notice? We had to come up with a new product that didn't exist before to be within the law. We were given notice yes. MHRA gave us the maximum notice allowed How long was the notice and was the new rule specific in detail rather than just general idea with a specific update one week before the law was applied? Did you have to employ new outside contractors to continue your business ? Also did it affect 100% of your business like the fish company? I think you're all missing the point. The change was made and no one gave a fuck because they didn't even know about it. The sole reason this is news is because of the timing. Do you ‘give a fuck ‘ about the businesses that are now struggling due to Brexit? Why would that matter? Because ‘giving a fuck’ is the point of your post ? Well I'm not shouting and screaming about it. But I didn't in 2016 either. Maybe you should have, did the company you worked for go out of business? " I didn't work for anyone. Haven't done for 15 years. No we didn't go out of business. We cleared our shelves and restocked with the new products. | |||
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"you can get salmon 5 quid a kilo on Stockton market smoked who needs the eu The people who are seeing their livelihoods going down the Swanee? I'll say it again. No one cared when the EU, and yes it was the EU made changes to my industry in 2016. In fact most of you probably never even heard about the changes. What happened? We adapted and overcame. That's what businesses do Why did boris not say this before we left? Did he say..actually when we leave we are going to have a few significant problems? He has promised to do all the paper work for them
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"you can get salmon 5 quid a kilo on Stockton market smoked who needs the eu Who needs the EU? Farmers Car manufacturers Chemical industry Fishermen The company that was on Look North who manufacturers barrel closures Cheese makers Car part manufacturers That's a short list. thats not actually true, they dont NEED the eu, its a market but there are other markets, yes its our biggest market at present but it might not always be. Im not pro or anti brexit but we import more than we export, so make what we did import? and just stick a french label on it or a merc badge coz most people cant tell the difference. Most Men cant with me once slightly d*unk and its a bit dark.... lol
Yes but are they d*unk on cheap carling or a fine French brandy?
Which is going to taste better in that kiss? "theres a lot of very nice brandies and very nice beers, i like an italian cock and a french cock, but english scot and welsh cock are very nice to! and some times i mix them all up together lol | |||
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"you can get salmon 5 quid a kilo on Stockton market smoked who needs the eu The people who are seeing their livelihoods going down the Swanee? I'll say it again. No one cared when the EU, and yes it was the EU made changes to my industry in 2016. In fact most of you probably never even heard about the changes. What happened? We adapted and overcame. That's what businesses do And what changes did they make? We’re you given plenty of notice? We had to come up with a new product that didn't exist before to be within the law. We were given notice yes. MHRA gave us the maximum notice allowed How long was the notice and was the new rule specific in detail rather than just general idea with a specific update one week before the law was applied? Did you have to employ new outside contractors to continue your business ? Also did it affect 100% of your business like the fish company? I think you're all missing the point. The change was made and no one gave a fuck because they didn't even know about it. The sole reason this is news is because of the timing. Do you ‘give a fuck ‘ about the businesses that are now struggling due to Brexit? Why would that matter? Because ‘giving a fuck’ is the point of your post ? Well I'm not shouting and screaming about it. But I didn't in 2016 either. Maybe you should have, did the company you worked for go out of business? I didn't work for anyone. Haven't done for 15 years. No we didn't go out of business. We cleared our shelves and restocked with the new products." Ah right, doesn’t sound like it was such a big deal then and isn’t anywhere near as serious as the problems now facing certain businesses due to Brexit | |||
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"you can get salmon 5 quid a kilo on Stockton market smoked who needs the eu Who needs the EU? Farmers Car manufacturers Chemical industry Fishermen The company that was on Look North who manufacturers barrel closures Cheese makers Car part manufacturers That's a short list. thats not actually true, they dont NEED the eu, its a market but there are other markets, yes its our biggest market at present but it might not always be. Im not pro or anti brexit but we import more than we export, so make what we did import? and just stick a french label on it or a merc badge coz most people cant tell the difference. Most Men cant with me once slightly d*unk and its a bit dark.... lol
Yes but are they d*unk on cheap carling or a fine French brandy?
Which is going to taste better in that kiss?
theres a lot of very nice brandies and very nice beers, i like an italian cock and a french cock, but english scot and welsh cock are very nice to! and some times i mix them all up together lol "Ha ha cant argue with you on the cock thing as not my area of experience | |||
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"you can get salmon 5 quid a kilo on Stockton market smoked who needs the eu The people who are seeing their livelihoods going down the Swanee? I'll say it again. No one cared when the EU, and yes it was the EU made changes to my industry in 2016. In fact most of you probably never even heard about the changes. What happened? We adapted and overcame. That's what businesses do And what changes did they make? We’re you given plenty of notice? We had to come up with a new product that didn't exist before to be within the law. We were given notice yes. MHRA gave us the maximum notice allowed Was that longer than a week? Yes it was but the point is, changes happen both in and out of the EU. Anyway, business worth their salt will find a way out of it. Would you have been able to implement the changes required in a week? " Was it BoJo's fault it was only a week? | |||
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"you can get salmon 5 quid a kilo on Stockton market smoked who needs the eu The people who are seeing their livelihoods going down the Swanee? I'll say it again. No one cared when the EU, and yes it was the EU made changes to my industry in 2016. In fact most of you probably never even heard about the changes. What happened? We adapted and overcame. That's what businesses do And what changes did they make? We’re you given plenty of notice? We had to come up with a new product that didn't exist before to be within the law. We were given notice yes. MHRA gave us the maximum notice allowed How long was the notice and was the new rule specific in detail rather than just general idea with a specific update one week before the law was applied? Did you have to employ new outside contractors to continue your business ? Also did it affect 100% of your business like the fish company? I think you're all missing the point. The change was made and no one gave a fuck because they didn't even know about it. The sole reason this is news is because of the timing. Do you ‘give a fuck ‘ about the businesses that are now struggling due to Brexit? Why would that matter? Because ‘giving a fuck’ is the point of your post ? Well I'm not shouting and screaming about it. But I didn't in 2016 either. Maybe you should have, did the company you worked for go out of business? I didn't work for anyone. Haven't done for 15 years. No we didn't go out of business. We cleared our shelves and restocked with the new products. Ah right, doesn’t sound like it was such a big deal then and isn’t anywhere near as serious as the problems now facing certain businesses due to Brexit " Any idea how much stock we had to get rid of and reinvest in the new product? Machinery that we had to invest in? New notifications to the EU which had to be paid for each individual product? Amongst a variety of other things. Who am I kidding? Of course you don't. But my point stands. The only reason this is news is because of the timing. Everyone failing now will blame Brexit. What about the thousands of businesses that close every year? Anyone give a fuck? Nah, didn't think so. | |||
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"you can get salmon 5 quid a kilo on Stockton market smoked who needs the eu The people who are seeing their livelihoods going down the Swanee? I'll say it again. No one cared when the EU, and yes it was the EU made changes to my industry in 2016. In fact most of you probably never even heard about the changes. What happened? We adapted and overcame. That's what businesses do And what changes did they make? We’re you given plenty of notice? We had to come up with a new product that didn't exist before to be within the law. We were given notice yes. MHRA gave us the maximum notice allowed How long was the notice and was the new rule specific in detail rather than just general idea with a specific update one week before the law was applied? Did you have to employ new outside contractors to continue your business ? Also did it affect 100% of your business like the fish company? I think you're all missing the point. The change was made and no one gave a fuck because they didn't even know about it. The sole reason this is news is because of the timing. Do you ‘give a fuck ‘ about the businesses that are now struggling due to Brexit? Why would that matter? Because ‘giving a fuck’ is the point of your post ? Well I'm not shouting and screaming about it. But I didn't in 2016 either. Maybe you should have, did the company you worked for go out of business? I didn't work for anyone. Haven't done for 15 years. No we didn't go out of business. We cleared our shelves and restocked with the new products. Ah right, doesn’t sound like it was such a big deal then and isn’t anywhere near as serious as the problems now facing certain businesses due to Brexit Any idea how much stock we had to get rid of and reinvest in the new product? Machinery that we had to invest in? New notifications to the EU which had to be paid for each individual product? Amongst a variety of other things. Who am I kidding? Of course you don't. But my point stands. The only reason this is news is because of the timing. Everyone failing now will blame Brexit. What about the thousands of businesses that close every year? Anyone give a fuck? Nah, didn't think so." I give as much a fuck about what happened to you as you do to those struggling businesses post Brexit | |||
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"you can get salmon 5 quid a kilo on Stockton market smoked who needs the eu The people who are seeing their livelihoods going down the Swanee? I'll say it again. No one cared when the EU, and yes it was the EU made changes to my industry in 2016. In fact most of you probably never even heard about the changes. What happened? We adapted and overcame. That's what businesses do And what changes did they make? We’re you given plenty of notice? We had to come up with a new product that didn't exist before to be within the law. We were given notice yes. MHRA gave us the maximum notice allowed How long was the notice and was the new rule specific in detail rather than just general idea with a specific update one week before the law was applied? Did you have to employ new outside contractors to continue your business ? Also did it affect 100% of your business like the fish company? I think you're all missing the point. The change was made and no one gave a fuck because they didn't even know about it. The sole reason this is news is because of the timing. Do you ‘give a fuck ‘ about the businesses that are now struggling due to Brexit? Why would that matter? Because ‘giving a fuck’ is the point of your post ? Well I'm not shouting and screaming about it. But I didn't in 2016 either. Maybe you should have, did the company you worked for go out of business? I didn't work for anyone. Haven't done for 15 years. No we didn't go out of business. We cleared our shelves and restocked with the new products. Ah right, doesn’t sound like it was such a big deal then and isn’t anywhere near as serious as the problems now facing certain businesses due to Brexit Any idea how much stock we had to get rid of and reinvest in the new product? Machinery that we had to invest in? New notifications to the EU which had to be paid for each individual product? Amongst a variety of other things. Who am I kidding? Of course you don't. But my point stands. The only reason this is news is because of the timing. Everyone failing now will blame Brexit. What about the thousands of businesses that close every year? Anyone give a fuck? Nah, didn't think so. I give as much a fuck about what happened to you as you do to those struggling businesses post Brexit " Don't give a fuck about me, I'm not looking for you to care. But where were you when a lot of my colleagues couldn't cope in 2016 and went out of business? Oh that's right, you didn't say a word because it didn't affect you. Or even worse you didn't know the new regs could've completely destroyed a whole industry. | |||
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"you can get salmon 5 quid a kilo on Stockton market smoked who needs the eu The people who are seeing their livelihoods going down the Swanee? I'll say it again. No one cared when the EU, and yes it was the EU made changes to my industry in 2016. In fact most of you probably never even heard about the changes. What happened? We adapted and overcame. That's what businesses do And what changes did they make? We’re you given plenty of notice? We had to come up with a new product that didn't exist before to be within the law. We were given notice yes. MHRA gave us the maximum notice allowed How long was the notice and was the new rule specific in detail rather than just general idea with a specific update one week before the law was applied? Did you have to employ new outside contractors to continue your business ? Also did it affect 100% of your business like the fish company? I think you're all missing the point. The change was made and no one gave a fuck because they didn't even know about it. The sole reason this is news is because of the timing. Do you ‘give a fuck ‘ about the businesses that are now struggling due to Brexit? Why would that matter? Because ‘giving a fuck’ is the point of your post ? Well I'm not shouting and screaming about it. But I didn't in 2016 either. Maybe you should have, did the company you worked for go out of business? I didn't work for anyone. Haven't done for 15 years. No we didn't go out of business. We cleared our shelves and restocked with the new products. Ah right, doesn’t sound like it was such a big deal then and isn’t anywhere near as serious as the problems now facing certain businesses due to Brexit Any idea how much stock we had to get rid of and reinvest in the new product? Machinery that we had to invest in? New notifications to the EU which had to be paid for each individual product? Amongst a variety of other things. Who am I kidding? Of course you don't. But my point stands. The only reason this is news is because of the timing. Everyone failing now will blame Brexit. What about the thousands of businesses that close every year? Anyone give a fuck? Nah, didn't think so. I give as much a fuck about what happened to you as you do to those struggling businesses post Brexit Don't give a fuck about me, I'm not looking for you to care. But where were you when a lot of my colleagues couldn't cope in 2016 and went out of business? Oh that's right, you didn't say a word because it didn't affect you. Or even worse you didn't know the new regs could've completely destroyed a whole industry." When this happened had you recently voted in a referendum and were continually promised by the government that these changes wouldn’t happen? | |||
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"I would have bought after a year if Covid, many restaurants being closed all over Europe, probably had a shit take this year so far then Brexit kicks in. It’s the nail in the coffin not the coffin itself. S" Probably, but Brexit was supposed to help these industries, not make them go out of business | |||
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"I would have bought after a year if Covid, many restaurants being closed all over Europe, probably had a shit take this year so far then Brexit kicks in. It’s the nail in the coffin not the coffin itself. S Probably, but Brexit was supposed to help these industries, not make them go out of business " No it wasn't brexit was the will of the people everything else was secondary | |||
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"I would have bought after a year if Covid, many restaurants being closed all over Europe, probably had a shit take this year so far then Brexit kicks in. It’s the nail in the coffin not the coffin itself. S" No one is telling you that the UK is a net importer fish though. Imagine that those businesses couldn't adapt and sell local | |||
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"I would have bought after a year if Covid, many restaurants being closed all over Europe, probably had a shit take this year so far then Brexit kicks in. It’s the nail in the coffin not the coffin itself. S Probably, but Brexit was supposed to help these industries, not make them go out of business No it wasn't brexit was the will of the people everything else was secondary" Good..so we know who to blame when it goes totally tits up | |||
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"I would have bought after a year if Covid, many restaurants being closed all over Europe, probably had a shit take this year so far then Brexit kicks in. It’s the nail in the coffin not the coffin itself. S Probably, but Brexit was supposed to help these industries, not make them go out of business No it wasn't brexit was the will of the people everything else was secondary" Company closures, extra red tape, job losses, increased tension in Northern Ireland is brexit. This was the "will of the people". This was what used to be called "project fear". | |||
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"I would have bought after a year if Covid, many restaurants being closed all over Europe, probably had a shit take this year so far then Brexit kicks in. It’s the nail in the coffin not the coffin itself. S Probably, but Brexit was supposed to help these industries, not make them go out of business No it wasn't brexit was the will of the people everything else was secondary" The will of some people, and it’s turned out to be a pig | |||
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"you can get salmon 5 quid a kilo on Stockton market smoked who needs the eu Who needs the EU? Farmers Car manufacturers Chemical industry Fishermen The company that was on Look North who manufacturers barrel closures Cheese makers Car part manufacturers That's a short list. thats not actually true, they dont NEED the eu, its a market but there are other markets, yes its our biggest market at present but it might not always be. Im not pro or anti brexit but we import more than we export, so make what we did import? and just stick a french label on it or a merc badge coz most people cant tell the difference. Most Men cant with me once slightly d*unk and its a bit dark.... lol
Yes but are they d*unk on cheap carling or a fine French brandy?
Which is going to taste better in that kiss?
theres a lot of very nice brandies and very nice beers, i like an italian cock and a french cock, but english scot and welsh cock are very nice to! and some times i mix them all up together lol "i sound flippant but the point is there is a lot of nice cock all over the world and most of the guys would fly all over it for pussy... right product always sells! | |||
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""The will of the people" was to leave no deal was discussed on the ballot paper. The rest of the problems have been caused by the people who wanted a deal surely?" So you voted to leave without a deal? Brexit is a pig | |||
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""The will of the people" was to leave no deal was discussed on the ballot paper. The rest of the problems have been caused by the people who wanted a deal surely?" Brexit unfolded exactly as expected. Leavers called it "project fear" when they read these things. There is no version of brexit that isn't damaging to the country. The majority of blame for brexit lies squarely with those who lied, for years, to the people and convinced them to vote for it. But those who believed this bollocks, can't just wash their hands of it now and blame everything else under the sun and not expect to be called out. | |||
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""The will of the people" was to leave no deal was discussed on the ballot paper. The rest of the problems have been caused by the people who wanted a deal surely? So you voted to leave without a deal? Brexit is a pig " i did like the sound of mrs mays bacon trifle lol | |||
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"you can get salmon 5 quid a kilo on Stockton market smoked who needs the eu The people who are seeing their livelihoods going down the Swanee? I'll say it again. No one cared when the EU, and yes it was the EU made changes to my industry in 2016. In fact most of you probably never even heard about the changes. What happened? We adapted and overcame. That's what businesses do And what changes did they make? We’re you given plenty of notice? We had to come up with a new product that didn't exist before to be within the law. We were given notice yes. MHRA gave us the maximum notice allowed How long was the notice and was the new rule specific in detail rather than just general idea with a specific update one week before the law was applied? Did you have to employ new outside contractors to continue your business ? Also did it affect 100% of your business like the fish company? I think you're all missing the point. The change was made and no one gave a fuck because they didn't even know about it. The sole reason this is news is because of the timing. Do you ‘give a fuck ‘ about the businesses that are now struggling due to Brexit? Why would that matter? Because ‘giving a fuck’ is the point of your post ? Well I'm not shouting and screaming about it. But I didn't in 2016 either. Maybe you should have, did the company you worked for go out of business? I didn't work for anyone. Haven't done for 15 years. No we didn't go out of business. We cleared our shelves and restocked with the new products. Ah right, doesn’t sound like it was such a big deal then and isn’t anywhere near as serious as the problems now facing certain businesses due to Brexit Any idea how much stock we had to get rid of and reinvest in the new product? Machinery that we had to invest in? New notifications to the EU which had to be paid for each individual product? Amongst a variety of other things. Who am I kidding? Of course you don't. But my point stands. The only reason this is news is because of the timing. Everyone failing now will blame Brexit. What about the thousands of businesses that close every year? Anyone give a fuck? Nah, didn't think so." Cause and effect These business are closing due to Brexit What sort of industry where you in that destroyed by legislation changes or was it just health and safety and you didn’t keep up? Businesses fail every day because they are badly run but if you are prevented from selling then you are not badly run you just can’t sell! So you’re fucked. Every exporter in tne country is affected by Brexit they are not the victims of random timing! | |||
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""The will of the people" was to leave no deal was discussed on the ballot paper. The rest of the problems have been caused by the people who wanted a deal surely?" Deal or no deal Brexit they are both Brexit and that is the sole reason for the shit storm overwhelming or businesses. No deal would have been even more catastrophic with tariffs on everything . We would have been turning the lights off ! | |||
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"you can get salmon 5 quid a kilo on Stockton market smoked who needs the eu The people who are seeing their livelihoods going down the Swanee? I'll say it again. No one cared when the EU, and yes it was the EU made changes to my industry in 2016. In fact most of you probably never even heard about the changes. What happened? We adapted and overcame. That's what businesses do And what changes did they make? We’re you given plenty of notice? We had to come up with a new product that didn't exist before to be within the law. We were given notice yes. MHRA gave us the maximum notice allowed How long was the notice and was the new rule specific in detail rather than just general idea with a specific update one week before the law was applied? Did you have to employ new outside contractors to continue your business ? Also did it affect 100% of your business like the fish company? I think you're all missing the point. The change was made and no one gave a fuck because they didn't even know about it. The sole reason this is news is because of the timing. Do you ‘give a fuck ‘ about the businesses that are now struggling due to Brexit? Why would that matter? Because ‘giving a fuck’ is the point of your post ? Well I'm not shouting and screaming about it. But I didn't in 2016 either. Maybe you should have, did the company you worked for go out of business? I didn't work for anyone. Haven't done for 15 years. No we didn't go out of business. We cleared our shelves and restocked with the new products. Ah right, doesn’t sound like it was such a big deal then and isn’t anywhere near as serious as the problems now facing certain businesses due to Brexit Any idea how much stock we had to get rid of and reinvest in the new product? Machinery that we had to invest in? New notifications to the EU which had to be paid for each individual product? Amongst a variety of other things. Who am I kidding? Of course you don't. But my point stands. The only reason this is news is because of the timing. Everyone failing now will blame Brexit. What about the thousands of businesses that close every year? Anyone give a fuck? Nah, didn't think so. Cause and effect These business are closing due to Brexit What sort of industry where you in that destroyed by legislation changes or was it just health and safety and you didn’t keep up? Businesses fail every day because they are badly run but if you are prevented from selling then you are not badly run you just can’t sell! So you’re fucked. Every exporter in tne country is affected by Brexit they are not the victims of random timing! " It was nothing to do with H&S. It was a complete reg change on the products. 95% of products had to go to be replaced by new ones. And would you believe it, the new ones had a massive impact on the amount on waste we now produce as an industry | |||
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"I didn't vote leave! "Brexit unfolded exactly as expected" How can that be when leavers expected no deal and go to WTO rules, listening to all the whines and moans on here, who's to say that wouldn't have been better? We'll never know i suppose?" Study harder do the maths and then work it out. It would have been even worse which is why Boris panicked and ran back to the table to sort any deal he could. If it was better under WTO he would have walked so don’t kid yourself. And I can whine as much as I want as I’m paying heavily for this mess every day with extra costs | |||
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"you can get salmon 5 quid a kilo on Stockton market smoked who needs the eu The people who are seeing their livelihoods going down the Swanee? I'll say it again. No one cared when the EU, and yes it was the EU made changes to my industry in 2016. In fact most of you probably never even heard about the changes. What happened? We adapted and overcame. That's what businesses do And what changes did they make? We’re you given plenty of notice? We had to come up with a new product that didn't exist before to be within the law. We were given notice yes. MHRA gave us the maximum notice allowed How long was the notice and was the new rule specific in detail rather than just general idea with a specific update one week before the law was applied? Did you have to employ new outside contractors to continue your business ? Also did it affect 100% of your business like the fish company? I think you're all missing the point. The change was made and no one gave a fuck because they didn't even know about it. The sole reason this is news is because of the timing. Do you ‘give a fuck ‘ about the businesses that are now struggling due to Brexit? Why would that matter? Because ‘giving a fuck’ is the point of your post ? Well I'm not shouting and screaming about it. But I didn't in 2016 either. Maybe you should have, did the company you worked for go out of business? I didn't work for anyone. Haven't done for 15 years. No we didn't go out of business. We cleared our shelves and restocked with the new products. Ah right, doesn’t sound like it was such a big deal then and isn’t anywhere near as serious as the problems now facing certain businesses due to Brexit Any idea how much stock we had to get rid of and reinvest in the new product? Machinery that we had to invest in? New notifications to the EU which had to be paid for each individual product? Amongst a variety of other things. Who am I kidding? Of course you don't. But my point stands. The only reason this is news is because of the timing. Everyone failing now will blame Brexit. What about the thousands of businesses that close every year? Anyone give a fuck? Nah, didn't think so. Cause and effect These business are closing due to Brexit What sort of industry where you in that destroyed by legislation changes or was it just health and safety and you didn’t keep up? Businesses fail every day because they are badly run but if you are prevented from selling then you are not badly run you just can’t sell! So you’re fucked. Every exporter in tne country is affected by Brexit they are not the victims of random timing! It was nothing to do with H&S. It was a complete reg change on the products. 95% of products had to go to be replaced by new ones. And would you believe it, the new ones had a massive impact on the amount on waste we now produce as an industry "So why were the changes brought in if they are so damaging ? There must be a reason that’s understandable to us simple people . | |||
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"I didn't vote leave! "Brexit unfolded exactly as expected" How can that be when leavers expected no deal and go to WTO rules, listening to all the whines and moans on here, who's to say that wouldn't have been better? We'll never know i suppose?" How do you work out leavers expected no deal? We were told explicitly there would be a deal yet came perilously close to crashing out without one. | |||
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"I didn't vote leave! "Brexit unfolded exactly as expected" How can that be when leavers expected no deal and go to WTO rules, listening to all the whines and moans on here, who's to say that wouldn't have been better? We'll never know i suppose?" Leave voters ‘expected a no deal and WTO rules’ ? Really? | |||
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"you can get salmon 5 quid a kilo on Stockton market smoked who needs the eu Who needs the EU? Farmers Car manufacturers Chemical industry Fishermen The company that was on Look North who manufacturers barrel closures Cheese makers Car part manufacturers That's a short list. thats not actually true, they dont NEED the eu, its a market but there are other markets, yes its our biggest market at present but it might not always be. Im not pro or anti brexit but we import more than we export, so make what we did import? and just stick a french label on it or a merc badge coz most people cant tell the difference. Most Men cant with me once slightly d*unk and its a bit dark.... lol
Yes but are they d*unk on cheap carling or a fine French brandy?
Which is going to taste better in that kiss?
theres a lot of very nice brandies and very nice beers, i like an italian cock and a french cock, but english scot and welsh cock are very nice to! and some times i mix them all up together lol
i sound flippant but the point is there is a lot of nice cock all over the world and most of the guys would fly all over it for pussy... right product always sells! "What if it’s the same product but ones more expensive ? How does that work? | |||
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"you can get salmon 5 quid a kilo on Stockton market smoked who needs the eu The people who are seeing their livelihoods going down the Swanee? I'll say it again. No one cared when the EU, and yes it was the EU made changes to my industry in 2016. In fact most of you probably never even heard about the changes. What happened? We adapted and overcame. That's what businesses do And what changes did they make? We’re you given plenty of notice? We had to come up with a new product that didn't exist before to be within the law. We were given notice yes. MHRA gave us the maximum notice allowed How long was the notice and was the new rule specific in detail rather than just general idea with a specific update one week before the law was applied? Did you have to employ new outside contractors to continue your business ? Also did it affect 100% of your business like the fish company? I think you're all missing the point. The change was made and no one gave a fuck because they didn't even know about it. The sole reason this is news is because of the timing. Do you ‘give a fuck ‘ about the businesses that are now struggling due to Brexit? Why would that matter? Because ‘giving a fuck’ is the point of your post ? Well I'm not shouting and screaming about it. But I didn't in 2016 either. Maybe you should have, did the company you worked for go out of business? I didn't work for anyone. Haven't done for 15 years. No we didn't go out of business. We cleared our shelves and restocked with the new products. Ah right, doesn’t sound like it was such a big deal then and isn’t anywhere near as serious as the problems now facing certain businesses due to Brexit Any idea how much stock we had to get rid of and reinvest in the new product? Machinery that we had to invest in? New notifications to the EU which had to be paid for each individual product? Amongst a variety of other things. Who am I kidding? Of course you don't. But my point stands. The only reason this is news is because of the timing. Everyone failing now will blame Brexit. What about the thousands of businesses that close every year? Anyone give a fuck? Nah, didn't think so. Cause and effect These business are closing due to Brexit What sort of industry where you in that destroyed by legislation changes or was it just health and safety and you didn’t keep up? Businesses fail every day because they are badly run but if you are prevented from selling then you are not badly run you just can’t sell! So you’re fucked. Every exporter in tne country is affected by Brexit they are not the victims of random timing! It was nothing to do with H&S. It was a complete reg change on the products. 95% of products had to go to be replaced by new ones. And would you believe it, the new ones had a massive impact on the amount on waste we now produce as an industry
So why were the changes brought in if they are so damaging ? There must be a reason that’s understandable to us simple people . "There is no understandable reason. Which is why the UK are now looking to change it back. | |||
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"you can get salmon 5 quid a kilo on Stockton market smoked who needs the eu The people who are seeing their livelihoods going down the Swanee? I'll say it again. No one cared when the EU, and yes it was the EU made changes to my industry in 2016. In fact most of you probably never even heard about the changes. What happened? We adapted and overcame. That's what businesses do And what changes did they make? We’re you given plenty of notice? We had to come up with a new product that didn't exist before to be within the law. We were given notice yes. MHRA gave us the maximum notice allowed How long was the notice and was the new rule specific in detail rather than just general idea with a specific update one week before the law was applied? Did you have to employ new outside contractors to continue your business ? Also did it affect 100% of your business like the fish company? I think you're all missing the point. The change was made and no one gave a fuck because they didn't even know about it. The sole reason this is news is because of the timing. Do you ‘give a fuck ‘ about the businesses that are now struggling due to Brexit? Why would that matter? Because ‘giving a fuck’ is the point of your post ? Well I'm not shouting and screaming about it. But I didn't in 2016 either. Maybe you should have, did the company you worked for go out of business? I didn't work for anyone. Haven't done for 15 years. No we didn't go out of business. We cleared our shelves and restocked with the new products. Ah right, doesn’t sound like it was such a big deal then and isn’t anywhere near as serious as the problems now facing certain businesses due to Brexit Any idea how much stock we had to get rid of and reinvest in the new product? Machinery that we had to invest in? New notifications to the EU which had to be paid for each individual product? Amongst a variety of other things. Who am I kidding? Of course you don't. But my point stands. The only reason this is news is because of the timing. Everyone failing now will blame Brexit. What about the thousands of businesses that close every year? Anyone give a fuck? Nah, didn't think so. Cause and effect These business are closing due to Brexit What sort of industry where you in that destroyed by legislation changes or was it just health and safety and you didn’t keep up? Businesses fail every day because they are badly run but if you are prevented from selling then you are not badly run you just can’t sell! So you’re fucked. Every exporter in tne country is affected by Brexit they are not the victims of random timing! It was nothing to do with H&S. It was a complete reg change on the products. 95% of products had to go to be replaced by new ones. And would you believe it, the new ones had a massive impact on the amount on waste we now produce as an industry "What industry are you referring to? | |||
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"I didn't vote leave! "Brexit unfolded exactly as expected" How can that be when leavers expected no deal and go to WTO rules, listening to all the whines and moans on here, who's to say that wouldn't have been better? We'll never know i suppose? Study harder do the maths and then work it out. It would have been even worse which is why Boris panicked and ran back to the table to sort any deal he could. If it was better under WTO he would have walked so don’t kid yourself. And I can whine as much as I want as I’m paying heavily for this mess every day with extra costs " Leavers say BoJo ran back for the deal as you put, to please the remainers and bring the nation back together | |||
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"I didn't vote leave! "Brexit unfolded exactly as expected" How can that be when leavers expected no deal and go to WTO rules, listening to all the whines and moans on here, who's to say that wouldn't have been better? We'll never know i suppose? Study harder do the maths and then work it out. It would have been even worse which is why Boris panicked and ran back to the table to sort any deal he could. If it was better under WTO he would have walked so don’t kid yourself. And I can whine as much as I want as I’m paying heavily for this mess every day with extra costs Leavers say BoJo ran back for the deal as you put, to please the remainers and bring the nation back together" All 17.4 million leave voters? | |||
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"I didn't vote leave! "Brexit unfolded exactly as expected" How can that be when leavers expected no deal and go to WTO rules, listening to all the whines and moans on here, who's to say that wouldn't have been better? We'll never know i suppose? Leave voters ‘expected a no deal and WTO rules’ ? Really? " Why was it not a condition on the ballot paper? | |||
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"I didn't vote leave! "Brexit unfolded exactly as expected" How can that be when leavers expected no deal and go to WTO rules, listening to all the whines and moans on here, who's to say that wouldn't have been better? We'll never know i suppose? Study harder do the maths and then work it out. It would have been even worse which is why Boris panicked and ran back to the table to sort any deal he could. If it was better under WTO he would have walked so don’t kid yourself. And I can whine as much as I want as I’m paying heavily for this mess every day with extra costs Leavers say BoJo ran back for the deal as you put, to please the remainers and bring the nation back together" Oh dear did you think about that before writing it? | |||
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"I didn't vote leave! "Brexit unfolded exactly as expected" How can that be when leavers expected no deal and go to WTO rules, listening to all the whines and moans on here, who's to say that wouldn't have been better? We'll never know i suppose? Leave voters ‘expected a no deal and WTO rules’ ? Really? Why was it not a condition on the ballot paper?" So all 17.4 million leave voters voted for a no deal? | |||
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"you can get salmon 5 quid a kilo on Stockton market smoked who needs the eu The people who are seeing their livelihoods going down the Swanee? I'll say it again. No one cared when the EU, and yes it was the EU made changes to my industry in 2016. In fact most of you probably never even heard about the changes. What happened? We adapted and overcame. That's what businesses do And what changes did they make? We’re you given plenty of notice? We had to come up with a new product that didn't exist before to be within the law. We were given notice yes. MHRA gave us the maximum notice allowed How long was the notice and was the new rule specific in detail rather than just general idea with a specific update one week before the law was applied? Did you have to employ new outside contractors to continue your business ? Also did it affect 100% of your business like the fish company? I think you're all missing the point. The change was made and no one gave a fuck because they didn't even know about it. The sole reason this is news is because of the timing. Do you ‘give a fuck ‘ about the businesses that are now struggling due to Brexit? Why would that matter? Because ‘giving a fuck’ is the point of your post ? Well I'm not shouting and screaming about it. But I didn't in 2016 either. Maybe you should have, did the company you worked for go out of business? I didn't work for anyone. Haven't done for 15 years. No we didn't go out of business. We cleared our shelves and restocked with the new products. Ah right, doesn’t sound like it was such a big deal then and isn’t anywhere near as serious as the problems now facing certain businesses due to Brexit Any idea how much stock we had to get rid of and reinvest in the new product? Machinery that we had to invest in? New notifications to the EU which had to be paid for each individual product? Amongst a variety of other things. Who am I kidding? Of course you don't. But my point stands. The only reason this is news is because of the timing. Everyone failing now will blame Brexit. What about the thousands of businesses that close every year? Anyone give a fuck? Nah, didn't think so. Cause and effect These business are closing due to Brexit What sort of industry where you in that destroyed by legislation changes or was it just health and safety and you didn’t keep up? Businesses fail every day because they are badly run but if you are prevented from selling then you are not badly run you just can’t sell! So you’re fucked. Every exporter in tne country is affected by Brexit they are not the victims of random timing! It was nothing to do with H&S. It was a complete reg change on the products. 95% of products had to go to be replaced by new ones. And would you believe it, the new ones had a massive impact on the amount on waste we now produce as an industry
So why were the changes brought in if they are so damaging ? There must be a reason that’s understandable to us simple people .
There is no understandable reason.
Which is why the UK are now looking to change it back."Please try to explain as it’s sounding like you just aren’t at the game where the others must have been. Or where just U.K. firms targeted? | |||
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"I didn't vote leave! "Brexit unfolded exactly as expected" How can that be when leavers expected no deal and go to WTO rules, listening to all the whines and moans on here, who's to say that wouldn't have been better? We'll never know i suppose? Study harder do the maths and then work it out. It would have been even worse which is why Boris panicked and ran back to the table to sort any deal he could. If it was better under WTO he would have walked so don’t kid yourself. And I can whine as much as I want as I’m paying heavily for this mess every day with extra costs Leavers say BoJo ran back for the deal as you put, to please the remainers and bring the nation back together" Ha ha ha ha So now the remainers are getting the blame You actually couldnt make this shit up! So why were all the leavers celebrating then? | |||
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"I didn't vote leave! "Brexit unfolded exactly as expected" How can that be when leavers expected no deal and go to WTO rules, listening to all the whines and moans on here, who's to say that wouldn't have been better? We'll never know i suppose? Leave voters ‘expected a no deal and WTO rules’ ? Really? Why was it not a condition on the ballot paper? So all 17.4 million leave voters voted for a no deal? " Read some of the comments on here you would believe everyone is talking in absolutes and 100% for everything, nut no i didn't say that but it wasn't a condition was it? | |||
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"you can get salmon 5 quid a kilo on Stockton market smoked who needs the eu The people who are seeing their livelihoods going down the Swanee? I'll say it again. No one cared when the EU, and yes it was the EU made changes to my industry in 2016. In fact most of you probably never even heard about the changes. What happened? We adapted and overcame. That's what businesses do And what changes did they make? We’re you given plenty of notice? We had to come up with a new product that didn't exist before to be within the law. We were given notice yes. MHRA gave us the maximum notice allowed How long was the notice and was the new rule specific in detail rather than just general idea with a specific update one week before the law was applied? Did you have to employ new outside contractors to continue your business ? Also did it affect 100% of your business like the fish company? I think you're all missing the point. The change was made and no one gave a fuck because they didn't even know about it. The sole reason this is news is because of the timing. Do you ‘give a fuck ‘ about the businesses that are now struggling due to Brexit? Why would that matter? Because ‘giving a fuck’ is the point of your post ? Well I'm not shouting and screaming about it. But I didn't in 2016 either. Maybe you should have, did the company you worked for go out of business? I didn't work for anyone. Haven't done for 15 years. No we didn't go out of business. We cleared our shelves and restocked with the new products. Ah right, doesn’t sound like it was such a big deal then and isn’t anywhere near as serious as the problems now facing certain businesses due to Brexit Any idea how much stock we had to get rid of and reinvest in the new product? Machinery that we had to invest in? New notifications to the EU which had to be paid for each individual product? Amongst a variety of other things. Who am I kidding? Of course you don't. But my point stands. The only reason this is news is because of the timing. Everyone failing now will blame Brexit. What about the thousands of businesses that close every year? Anyone give a fuck? Nah, didn't think so. Cause and effect These business are closing due to Brexit What sort of industry where you in that destroyed by legislation changes or was it just health and safety and you didn’t keep up? Businesses fail every day because they are badly run but if you are prevented from selling then you are not badly run you just can’t sell! So you’re fucked. Every exporter in tne country is affected by Brexit they are not the victims of random timing! It was nothing to do with H&S. It was a complete reg change on the products. 95% of products had to go to be replaced by new ones. And would you believe it, the new ones had a massive impact on the amount on waste we now produce as an industry
So why were the changes brought in if they are so damaging ? There must be a reason that’s understandable to us simple people .
There is no understandable reason.
Which is why the UK are now looking to change it back.
Please try to explain as it’s sounding like you just aren’t at the game where the others must have been. Or where just U.K. firms targeted? "It wasn't just UK businesses. It was the whole of the EU. Every single manufacturer. | |||
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"I didn't vote leave! "Brexit unfolded exactly as expected" How can that be when leavers expected no deal and go to WTO rules, listening to all the whines and moans on here, who's to say that wouldn't have been better? We'll never know i suppose? Study harder do the maths and then work it out. It would have been even worse which is why Boris panicked and ran back to the table to sort any deal he could. If it was better under WTO he would have walked so don’t kid yourself. And I can whine as much as I want as I’m paying heavily for this mess every day with extra costs Leavers say BoJo ran back for the deal as you put, to please the remainers and bring the nation back together Ha ha ha ha So now the remainers are getting the blame You actually couldnt make this shit up! So why were all the leavers celebrating then?" Because for a while there it looked like it wasn't going to happen | |||
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"I didn't vote leave! "Brexit unfolded exactly as expected" How can that be when leavers expected no deal and go to WTO rules, listening to all the whines and moans on here, who's to say that wouldn't have been better? We'll never know i suppose? Leave voters ‘expected a no deal and WTO rules’ ? Really? Why was it not a condition on the ballot paper? So all 17.4 million leave voters voted for a no deal? Read some of the comments on here you would believe everyone is talking in absolutes and 100% for everything, nut no i didn't say that but it wasn't a condition was it? " What are you talking about? Did you see or read any of the leave campaigns claims, leaving without a deal was never considered . | |||
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"you can get salmon 5 quid a kilo on Stockton market smoked who needs the eu The people who are seeing their livelihoods going down the Swanee? I'll say it again. No one cared when the EU, and yes it was the EU made changes to my industry in 2016. In fact most of you probably never even heard about the changes. What happened? We adapted and overcame. That's what businesses do And what changes did they make? We’re you given plenty of notice? We had to come up with a new product that didn't exist before to be within the law. We were given notice yes. MHRA gave us the maximum notice allowed How long was the notice and was the new rule specific in detail rather than just general idea with a specific update one week before the law was applied? Did you have to employ new outside contractors to continue your business ? Also did it affect 100% of your business like the fish company? I think you're all missing the point. The change was made and no one gave a fuck because they didn't even know about it. The sole reason this is news is because of the timing. Do you ‘give a fuck ‘ about the businesses that are now struggling due to Brexit? Why would that matter? Because ‘giving a fuck’ is the point of your post ? Well I'm not shouting and screaming about it. But I didn't in 2016 either. Maybe you should have, did the company you worked for go out of business? I didn't work for anyone. Haven't done for 15 years. No we didn't go out of business. We cleared our shelves and restocked with the new products. Ah right, doesn’t sound like it was such a big deal then and isn’t anywhere near as serious as the problems now facing certain businesses due to Brexit Any idea how much stock we had to get rid of and reinvest in the new product? Machinery that we had to invest in? New notifications to the EU which had to be paid for each individual product? Amongst a variety of other things. Who am I kidding? Of course you don't. But my point stands. The only reason this is news is because of the timing. Everyone failing now will blame Brexit. What about the thousands of businesses that close every year? Anyone give a fuck? Nah, didn't think so. Cause and effect These business are closing due to Brexit What sort of industry where you in that destroyed by legislation changes or was it just health and safety and you didn’t keep up? Businesses fail every day because they are badly run but if you are prevented from selling then you are not badly run you just can’t sell! So you’re fucked. Every exporter in tne country is affected by Brexit they are not the victims of random timing! It was nothing to do with H&S. It was a complete reg change on the products. 95% of products had to go to be replaced by new ones. And would you believe it, the new ones had a massive impact on the amount on waste we now produce as an industry
So why were the changes brought in if they are so damaging ? There must be a reason that’s understandable to us simple people .
There is no understandable reason.
Which is why the UK are now looking to change it back.
Please try to explain as it’s sounding like you just aren’t at the game where the others must have been. Or where just U.K. firms targeted?
It wasn't just UK businesses. It was the whole of the EU. Every single manufacturer."Which industry? | |||
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"I didn't vote leave! "Brexit unfolded exactly as expected" How can that be when leavers expected no deal and go to WTO rules, listening to all the whines and moans on here, who's to say that wouldn't have been better? We'll never know i suppose?" Leavers were told they'd get a great deal. No deal was never a suggestion. We do know that no deal would have been catastrophic. | |||
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"you can get salmon 5 quid a kilo on Stockton market smoked who needs the eu The people who are seeing their livelihoods going down the Swanee? I'll say it again. No one cared when the EU, and yes it was the EU made changes to my industry in 2016. In fact most of you probably never even heard about the changes. What happened? We adapted and overcame. That's what businesses do And what changes did they make? We’re you given plenty of notice? We had to come up with a new product that didn't exist before to be within the law. We were given notice yes. MHRA gave us the maximum notice allowed How long was the notice and was the new rule specific in detail rather than just general idea with a specific update one week before the law was applied? Did you have to employ new outside contractors to continue your business ? Also did it affect 100% of your business like the fish company? I think you're all missing the point. The change was made and no one gave a fuck because they didn't even know about it. The sole reason this is news is because of the timing. Do you ‘give a fuck ‘ about the businesses that are now struggling due to Brexit? Why would that matter? Because ‘giving a fuck’ is the point of your post ? Well I'm not shouting and screaming about it. But I didn't in 2016 either. Maybe you should have, did the company you worked for go out of business? I didn't work for anyone. Haven't done for 15 years. No we didn't go out of business. We cleared our shelves and restocked with the new products. Ah right, doesn’t sound like it was such a big deal then and isn’t anywhere near as serious as the problems now facing certain businesses due to Brexit Any idea how much stock we had to get rid of and reinvest in the new product? Machinery that we had to invest in? New notifications to the EU which had to be paid for each individual product? Amongst a variety of other things. Who am I kidding? Of course you don't. But my point stands. The only reason this is news is because of the timing. Everyone failing now will blame Brexit. What about the thousands of businesses that close every year? Anyone give a fuck? Nah, didn't think so. Cause and effect These business are closing due to Brexit What sort of industry where you in that destroyed by legislation changes or was it just health and safety and you didn’t keep up? Businesses fail every day because they are badly run but if you are prevented from selling then you are not badly run you just can’t sell! So you’re fucked. Every exporter in tne country is affected by Brexit they are not the victims of random timing! It was nothing to do with H&S. It was a complete reg change on the products. 95% of products had to go to be replaced by new ones. And would you believe it, the new ones had a massive impact on the amount on waste we now produce as an industry
So why were the changes brought in if they are so damaging ? There must be a reason that’s understandable to us simple people .
There is no understandable reason.
Which is why the UK are now looking to change it back.
Please try to explain as it’s sounding like you just aren’t at the game where the others must have been. Or where just U.K. firms targeted?
It wasn't just UK businesses. It was the whole of the EU. Every single manufacturer.
Which industry? "The e-cigarette industry. Its considerably bigger than the fishing industry too | |||
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"I didn't vote leave! "Brexit unfolded exactly as expected" How can that be when leavers expected no deal and go to WTO rules, listening to all the whines and moans on here, who's to say that wouldn't have been better? We'll never know i suppose? Leave voters ‘expected a no deal and WTO rules’ ? Really? Why was it not a condition on the ballot paper? So all 17.4 million leave voters voted for a no deal? Read some of the comments on here you would believe everyone is talking in absolutes and 100% for everything, nut no i didn't say that but it wasn't a condition was it? What are you talking about? Did you see or read any of the leave campaigns claims, leaving without a deal was never considered . " Did i mention the campaigns? I asked about the ballot paper | |||
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"I didn't vote leave! "Brexit unfolded exactly as expected" How can that be when leavers expected no deal and go to WTO rules, listening to all the whines and moans on here, who's to say that wouldn't have been better? We'll never know i suppose? Leave voters ‘expected a no deal and WTO rules’ ? Really? Why was it not a condition on the ballot paper? So all 17.4 million leave voters voted for a no deal? Read some of the comments on here you would believe everyone is talking in absolutes and 100% for everything, nut no i didn't say that but it wasn't a condition was it? What are you talking about? Did you see or read any of the leave campaigns claims, leaving without a deal was never considered . Did i mention the campaigns? I asked about the ballot paper" This is hilarious, are you being serious? | |||
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"I didn't vote leave! "Brexit unfolded exactly as expected" How can that be when leavers expected no deal and go to WTO rules, listening to all the whines and moans on here, who's to say that wouldn't have been better? We'll never know i suppose? Leave voters ‘expected a no deal and WTO rules’ ? Really? Why was it not a condition on the ballot paper? So all 17.4 million leave voters voted for a no deal? Read some of the comments on here you would believe everyone is talking in absolutes and 100% for everything, nut no i didn't say that but it wasn't a condition was it? What are you talking about? Did you see or read any of the leave campaigns claims, leaving without a deal was never considered . Did i mention the campaigns? I asked about the ballot paper This is hilarious, are you being serious? " Simple question, was it on the ballot paper? | |||
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"you can get salmon 5 quid a kilo on Stockton market smoked who needs the eu The people who are seeing their livelihoods going down the Swanee? I'll say it again. No one cared when the EU, and yes it was the EU made changes to my industry in 2016. In fact most of you probably never even heard about the changes. What happened? We adapted and overcame. That's what businesses do And what changes did they make? We’re you given plenty of notice? We had to come up with a new product that didn't exist before to be within the law. We were given notice yes. MHRA gave us the maximum notice allowed How long was the notice and was the new rule specific in detail rather than just general idea with a specific update one week before the law was applied? Did you have to employ new outside contractors to continue your business ? Also did it affect 100% of your business like the fish company? I think you're all missing the point. The change was made and no one gave a fuck because they didn't even know about it. The sole reason this is news is because of the timing. Do you ‘give a fuck ‘ about the businesses that are now struggling due to Brexit? Why would that matter? Because ‘giving a fuck’ is the point of your post ? Well I'm not shouting and screaming about it. But I didn't in 2016 either. Maybe you should have, did the company you worked for go out of business? I didn't work for anyone. Haven't done for 15 years. No we didn't go out of business. We cleared our shelves and restocked with the new products. Ah right, doesn’t sound like it was such a big deal then and isn’t anywhere near as serious as the problems now facing certain businesses due to Brexit Any idea how much stock we had to get rid of and reinvest in the new product? Machinery that we had to invest in? New notifications to the EU which had to be paid for each individual product? Amongst a variety of other things. Who am I kidding? Of course you don't. But my point stands. The only reason this is news is because of the timing. Everyone failing now will blame Brexit. What about the thousands of businesses that close every year? Anyone give a fuck? Nah, didn't think so. Cause and effect These business are closing due to Brexit What sort of industry where you in that destroyed by legislation changes or was it just health and safety and you didn’t keep up? Businesses fail every day because they are badly run but if you are prevented from selling then you are not badly run you just can’t sell! So you’re fucked. Every exporter in tne country is affected by Brexit they are not the victims of random timing! It was nothing to do with H&S. It was a complete reg change on the products. 95% of products had to go to be replaced by new ones. And would you believe it, the new ones had a massive impact on the amount on waste we now produce as an industry
So why were the changes brought in if they are so damaging ? There must be a reason that’s understandable to us simple people .
There is no understandable reason.
Which is why the UK are now looking to change it back.
Please try to explain as it’s sounding like you just aren’t at the game where the others must have been. Or where just U.K. firms targeted?
It wasn't just UK businesses. It was the whole of the EU. Every single manufacturer.
Which industry?
The e-cigarette industry. Its considerably bigger than the fishing industry too "Are they know thriving again since Brexit ? | |||
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"I didn't vote leave! "Brexit unfolded exactly as expected" How can that be when leavers expected no deal and go to WTO rules, listening to all the whines and moans on here, who's to say that wouldn't have been better? We'll never know i suppose? Leave voters ‘expected a no deal and WTO rules’ ? Really? Why was it not a condition on the ballot paper? So all 17.4 million leave voters voted for a no deal? Read some of the comments on here you would believe everyone is talking in absolutes and 100% for everything, nut no i didn't say that but it wasn't a condition was it? What are you talking about? Did you see or read any of the leave campaigns claims, leaving without a deal was never considered . Did i mention the campaigns? I asked about the ballot paper This is hilarious, are you being serious? Simple question, was it on the ballot paper?" Was what on the ballot paper ? | |||
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"you can get salmon 5 quid a kilo on Stockton market smoked who needs the eu The people who are seeing their livelihoods going down the Swanee? I'll say it again. No one cared when the EU, and yes it was the EU made changes to my industry in 2016. In fact most of you probably never even heard about the changes. What happened? We adapted and overcame. That's what businesses do And what changes did they make? We’re you given plenty of notice? We had to come up with a new product that didn't exist before to be within the law. We were given notice yes. MHRA gave us the maximum notice allowed How long was the notice and was the new rule specific in detail rather than just general idea with a specific update one week before the law was applied? Did you have to employ new outside contractors to continue your business ? Also did it affect 100% of your business like the fish company? I think you're all missing the point. The change was made and no one gave a fuck because they didn't even know about it. The sole reason this is news is because of the timing. Do you ‘give a fuck ‘ about the businesses that are now struggling due to Brexit? Why would that matter? Because ‘giving a fuck’ is the point of your post ? Well I'm not shouting and screaming about it. But I didn't in 2016 either. Maybe you should have, did the company you worked for go out of business? I didn't work for anyone. Haven't done for 15 years. No we didn't go out of business. We cleared our shelves and restocked with the new products. Ah right, doesn’t sound like it was such a big deal then and isn’t anywhere near as serious as the problems now facing certain businesses due to Brexit Any idea how much stock we had to get rid of and reinvest in the new product? Machinery that we had to invest in? New notifications to the EU which had to be paid for each individual product? Amongst a variety of other things. Who am I kidding? Of course you don't. But my point stands. The only reason this is news is because of the timing. Everyone failing now will blame Brexit. What about the thousands of businesses that close every year? Anyone give a fuck? Nah, didn't think so. Cause and effect These business are closing due to Brexit What sort of industry where you in that destroyed by legislation changes or was it just health and safety and you didn’t keep up? Businesses fail every day because they are badly run but if you are prevented from selling then you are not badly run you just can’t sell! So you’re fucked. Every exporter in tne country is affected by Brexit they are not the victims of random timing! It was nothing to do with H&S. It was a complete reg change on the products. 95% of products had to go to be replaced by new ones. And would you believe it, the new ones had a massive impact on the amount on waste we now produce as an industry
So why were the changes brought in if they are so damaging ? There must be a reason that’s understandable to us simple people .
There is no understandable reason.
Which is why the UK are now looking to change it back.
Please try to explain as it’s sounding like you just aren’t at the game where the others must have been. Or where just U.K. firms targeted?
It wasn't just UK businesses. It was the whole of the EU. Every single manufacturer.
Which industry?
The e-cigarette industry. Its considerably bigger than the fishing industry too
Are they know thriving again since Brexit ? "Now | |||
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"I didn't vote leave! "Brexit unfolded exactly as expected" How can that be when leavers expected no deal and go to WTO rules, listening to all the whines and moans on here, who's to say that wouldn't have been better? We'll never know i suppose? Leave voters ‘expected a no deal and WTO rules’ ? Really? Why was it not a condition on the ballot paper? So all 17.4 million leave voters voted for a no deal? Read some of the comments on here you would believe everyone is talking in absolutes and 100% for everything, nut no i didn't say that but it wasn't a condition was it? What are you talking about? Did you see or read any of the leave campaigns claims, leaving without a deal was never considered . Did i mention the campaigns? I asked about the ballot paper This is hilarious, are you being serious? Simple question, was it on the ballot paper? Was what on the ballot paper ? How can you have made so many derogatory remarks without knowing what you had been talking about?" I will ask again, what was on the ballot paper? | |||
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"I didn't vote leave! "Brexit unfolded exactly as expected" How can that be when leavers expected no deal and go to WTO rules, listening to all the whines and moans on here, who's to say that wouldn't have been better? We'll never know i suppose? Leave voters ‘expected a no deal and WTO rules’ ? Really? Why was it not a condition on the ballot paper? So all 17.4 million leave voters voted for a no deal? Read some of the comments on here you would believe everyone is talking in absolutes and 100% for everything, nut no i didn't say that but it wasn't a condition was it? What are you talking about? Did you see or read any of the leave campaigns claims, leaving without a deal was never considered . Did i mention the campaigns? I asked about the ballot paper This is hilarious, are you being serious? Simple question, was it on the ballot paper? Was what on the ballot paper ? " How can you have made so many derogatory remarks without knowing what you had been talking about? Remain or "leave only with a deal"? | |||
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"I didn't vote leave! "Brexit unfolded exactly as expected" How can that be when leavers expected no deal and go to WTO rules, listening to all the whines and moans on here, who's to say that wouldn't have been better? We'll never know i suppose? Leave voters ‘expected a no deal and WTO rules’ ? Really? Why was it not a condition on the ballot paper? So all 17.4 million leave voters voted for a no deal? Read some of the comments on here you would believe everyone is talking in absolutes and 100% for everything, nut no i didn't say that but it wasn't a condition was it? What are you talking about? Did you see or read any of the leave campaigns claims, leaving without a deal was never considered . Did i mention the campaigns? I asked about the ballot paper This is hilarious, are you being serious? Simple question, was it on the ballot paper? Was what on the ballot paper ? How can you have made so many derogatory remarks without knowing what you had been talking about? Remain or "leave only with a deal"?" It was a binary question, leave or remain. We have now left with this deal, can you explain what is your point ? | |||
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"I didn't vote leave! "Brexit unfolded exactly as expected" How can that be when leavers expected no deal and go to WTO rules, listening to all the whines and moans on here, who's to say that wouldn't have been better? We'll never know i suppose? Leave voters ‘expected a no deal and WTO rules’ ? Really? Why was it not a condition on the ballot paper? So all 17.4 million leave voters voted for a no deal? Read some of the comments on here you would believe everyone is talking in absolutes and 100% for everything, nut no i didn't say that but it wasn't a condition was it? What are you talking about? Did you see or read any of the leave campaigns claims, leaving without a deal was never considered . Did i mention the campaigns? I asked about the ballot paper This is hilarious, are you being serious? Simple question, was it on the ballot paper? Was what on the ballot paper ? How can you have made so many derogatory remarks without knowing what you had been talking about? Remain or "leave only with a deal"?" It just said "leave" which has happened. People were told it would be with a deal. | |||
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"you can get salmon 5 quid a kilo on Stockton market smoked who needs the eu The people who are seeing their livelihoods going down the Swanee? I'll say it again. No one cared when the EU, and yes it was the EU made changes to my industry in 2016. In fact most of you probably never even heard about the changes. What happened? We adapted and overcame. That's what businesses do And what changes did they make? We’re you given plenty of notice? We had to come up with a new product that didn't exist before to be within the law. We were given notice yes. MHRA gave us the maximum notice allowed How long was the notice and was the new rule specific in detail rather than just general idea with a specific update one week before the law was applied? Did you have to employ new outside contractors to continue your business ? Also did it affect 100% of your business like the fish company? I think you're all missing the point. The change was made and no one gave a fuck because they didn't even know about it. The sole reason this is news is because of the timing. Do you ‘give a fuck ‘ about the businesses that are now struggling due to Brexit? Why would that matter? Because ‘giving a fuck’ is the point of your post ? Well I'm not shouting and screaming about it. But I didn't in 2016 either. Maybe you should have, did the company you worked for go out of business? I didn't work for anyone. Haven't done for 15 years. No we didn't go out of business. We cleared our shelves and restocked with the new products. Ah right, doesn’t sound like it was such a big deal then and isn’t anywhere near as serious as the problems now facing certain businesses due to Brexit Any idea how much stock we had to get rid of and reinvest in the new product? Machinery that we had to invest in? New notifications to the EU which had to be paid for each individual product? Amongst a variety of other things. Who am I kidding? Of course you don't. But my point stands. The only reason this is news is because of the timing. Everyone failing now will blame Brexit. What about the thousands of businesses that close every year? Anyone give a fuck? Nah, didn't think so. Cause and effect These business are closing due to Brexit What sort of industry where you in that destroyed by legislation changes or was it just health and safety and you didn’t keep up? Businesses fail every day because they are badly run but if you are prevented from selling then you are not badly run you just can’t sell! So you’re fucked. Every exporter in tne country is affected by Brexit they are not the victims of random timing! It was nothing to do with H&S. It was a complete reg change on the products. 95% of products had to go to be replaced by new ones. And would you believe it, the new ones had a massive impact on the amount on waste we now produce as an industry
So why were the changes brought in if they are so damaging ? There must be a reason that’s understandable to us simple people .
There is no understandable reason.
Which is why the UK are now looking to change it back.
Please try to explain as it’s sounding like you just aren’t at the game where the others must have been. Or where just U.K. firms targeted?
It wasn't just UK businesses. It was the whole of the EU. Every single manufacturer.
Which industry?
The e-cigarette industry. Its considerably bigger than the fishing industry too
Are they know thriving again since Brexit ?
Now "All shops are closed and the UK governement are reviewing the regs. The industry continue to thrive but had to massively adapt. That's my whole point. Adapt and overcome. The UK are a net importer on seafood so why can't we sell local? I'm far from an expert in the fishing industry obviously though | |||
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"I didn't vote leave! "Brexit unfolded exactly as expected" How can that be when leavers expected no deal and go to WTO rules, listening to all the whines and moans on here, who's to say that wouldn't have been better? We'll never know i suppose? Leave voters ‘expected a no deal and WTO rules’ ? Really? Why was it not a condition on the ballot paper? So all 17.4 million leave voters voted for a no deal? Read some of the comments on here you would believe everyone is talking in absolutes and 100% for everything, nut no i didn't say that but it wasn't a condition was it? What are you talking about? Did you see or read any of the leave campaigns claims, leaving without a deal was never considered . Did i mention the campaigns? I asked about the ballot paper This is hilarious, are you being serious? Simple question, was it on the ballot paper? Was what on the ballot paper ? How can you have made so many derogatory remarks without knowing what you had been talking about? Remain or "leave only with a deal"? It was a binary question, leave or remain. We have now left with this deal, can you explain what is your point ? " My point was made earlier, leavers would have left sans Deal it's the remainers who wanted the deal that UK negotiated for | |||
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"you can get salmon 5 quid a kilo on Stockton market smoked who needs the eu The people who are seeing their livelihoods going down the Swanee? I'll say it again. No one cared when the EU, and yes it was the EU made changes to my industry in 2016. In fact most of you probably never even heard about the changes. What happened? We adapted and overcame. That's what businesses do And what changes did they make? We’re you given plenty of notice? We had to come up with a new product that didn't exist before to be within the law. We were given notice yes. MHRA gave us the maximum notice allowed How long was the notice and was the new rule specific in detail rather than just general idea with a specific update one week before the law was applied? Did you have to employ new outside contractors to continue your business ? Also did it affect 100% of your business like the fish company? I think you're all missing the point. The change was made and no one gave a fuck because they didn't even know about it. The sole reason this is news is because of the timing. Do you ‘give a fuck ‘ about the businesses that are now struggling due to Brexit? Why would that matter? Because ‘giving a fuck’ is the point of your post ? Well I'm not shouting and screaming about it. But I didn't in 2016 either. Maybe you should have, did the company you worked for go out of business? I didn't work for anyone. Haven't done for 15 years. No we didn't go out of business. We cleared our shelves and restocked with the new products. Ah right, doesn’t sound like it was such a big deal then and isn’t anywhere near as serious as the problems now facing certain businesses due to Brexit Any idea how much stock we had to get rid of and reinvest in the new product? Machinery that we had to invest in? New notifications to the EU which had to be paid for each individual product? Amongst a variety of other things. Who am I kidding? Of course you don't. But my point stands. The only reason this is news is because of the timing. Everyone failing now will blame Brexit. What about the thousands of businesses that close every year? Anyone give a fuck? Nah, didn't think so. Cause and effect These business are closing due to Brexit What sort of industry where you in that destroyed by legislation changes or was it just health and safety and you didn’t keep up? Businesses fail every day because they are badly run but if you are prevented from selling then you are not badly run you just can’t sell! So you’re fucked. Every exporter in tne country is affected by Brexit they are not the victims of random timing! It was nothing to do with H&S. It was a complete reg change on the products. 95% of products had to go to be replaced by new ones. And would you believe it, the new ones had a massive impact on the amount on waste we now produce as an industry
So why were the changes brought in if they are so damaging ? There must be a reason that’s understandable to us simple people .
There is no understandable reason.
Which is why the UK are now looking to change it back.
Please try to explain as it’s sounding like you just aren’t at the game where the others must have been. Or where just U.K. firms targeted?
It wasn't just UK businesses. It was the whole of the EU. Every single manufacturer.
Which industry?
The e-cigarette industry. Its considerably bigger than the fishing industry too
Are they know thriving again since Brexit ?
Now
All shops are closed and the UK governement are reviewing the regs.
The industry continue to thrive but had to massively adapt.
That's my whole point. Adapt and overcome.
The UK are a net importer on seafood so why can't we sell local? I'm far from an expert in the fishing industry obviously though"How long were you given to ‘adapt and overcome ‘ | |||
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"I didn't vote leave! "Brexit unfolded exactly as expected" How can that be when leavers expected no deal and go to WTO rules, listening to all the whines and moans on here, who's to say that wouldn't have been better? We'll never know i suppose? Leave voters ‘expected a no deal and WTO rules’ ? Really? Why was it not a condition on the ballot paper? So all 17.4 million leave voters voted for a no deal? Read some of the comments on here you would believe everyone is talking in absolutes and 100% for everything, nut no i didn't say that but it wasn't a condition was it? What are you talking about? Did you see or read any of the leave campaigns claims, leaving without a deal was never considered . Did i mention the campaigns? I asked about the ballot paper This is hilarious, are you being serious? Simple question, was it on the ballot paper? Was what on the ballot paper ? How can you have made so many derogatory remarks without knowing what you had been talking about? Remain or "leave only with a deal"? It was a binary question, leave or remain. We have now left with this deal, can you explain what is your point ? My point was made earlier, leavers would have left sans Deal it's the remainers who wanted the deal that UK negotiated for" Haha, so the leave voters wanted a no deal? They must be unhappy now ? So it’s the remain voters fault that we have this deal in place? Why didn’t Boris just go for a no deal to please the ‘will of the people’ | |||
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"I didn't vote leave! "Brexit unfolded exactly as expected" How can that be when leavers expected no deal and go to WTO rules, listening to all the whines and moans on here, who's to say that wouldn't have been better? We'll never know i suppose? Leave voters ‘expected a no deal and WTO rules’ ? Really? Why was it not a condition on the ballot paper? So all 17.4 million leave voters voted for a no deal? Read some of the comments on here you would believe everyone is talking in absolutes and 100% for everything, nut no i didn't say that but it wasn't a condition was it? What are you talking about? Did you see or read any of the leave campaigns claims, leaving without a deal was never considered . Did i mention the campaigns? I asked about the ballot paper This is hilarious, are you being serious? Simple question, was it on the ballot paper? Was what on the ballot paper ? How can you have made so many derogatory remarks without knowing what you had been talking about? Remain or "leave only with a deal"? It was a binary question, leave or remain. We have now left with this deal, can you explain what is your point ? My point was made earlier, leavers would have left sans Deal it's the remainers who wanted the deal that UK negotiated for" Remainers wanted to remain. If you think leavers all wanted a no deal. Then you should speak to them because at the time of the referendum, no one was suggesting a no deal brexit. | |||
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"I didn't vote leave! "Brexit unfolded exactly as expected" How can that be when leavers expected no deal and go to WTO rules, listening to all the whines and moans on here, who's to say that wouldn't have been better? We'll never know i suppose? Leave voters ‘expected a no deal and WTO rules’ ? Really? Why was it not a condition on the ballot paper? So all 17.4 million leave voters voted for a no deal? Read some of the comments on here you would believe everyone is talking in absolutes and 100% for everything, nut no i didn't say that but it wasn't a condition was it? What are you talking about? Did you see or read any of the leave campaigns claims, leaving without a deal was never considered . Did i mention the campaigns? I asked about the ballot paper This is hilarious, are you being serious? Simple question, was it on the ballot paper? Was what on the ballot paper ? How can you have made so many derogatory remarks without knowing what you had been talking about? Remain or "leave only with a deal"? It was a binary question, leave or remain. We have now left with this deal, can you explain what is your point ? My point was made earlier, leavers would have left sans Deal it's the remainers who wanted the deal that UK negotiated for Haha, so the leave voters wanted a no deal? They must be unhappy now ? So it’s the remain voters fault that we have this deal in place? Why didn’t Boris just go for a no deal to please the ‘will of the people’ " This also has been asked and answered, it was to try and bring the nation back together. | |||
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"you can get salmon 5 quid a kilo on Stockton market smoked who needs the eu The people who are seeing their livelihoods going down the Swanee? I'll say it again. No one cared when the EU, and yes it was the EU made changes to my industry in 2016. In fact most of you probably never even heard about the changes. What happened? We adapted and overcame. That's what businesses do And what changes did they make? We’re you given plenty of notice? We had to come up with a new product that didn't exist before to be within the law. We were given notice yes. MHRA gave us the maximum notice allowed How long was the notice and was the new rule specific in detail rather than just general idea with a specific update one week before the law was applied? Did you have to employ new outside contractors to continue your business ? Also did it affect 100% of your business like the fish company? I think you're all missing the point. The change was made and no one gave a fuck because they didn't even know about it. The sole reason this is news is because of the timing. Do you ‘give a fuck ‘ about the businesses that are now struggling due to Brexit? Why would that matter? Because ‘giving a fuck’ is the point of your post ? Well I'm not shouting and screaming about it. But I didn't in 2016 either. Maybe you should have, did the company you worked for go out of business? I didn't work for anyone. Haven't done for 15 years. No we didn't go out of business. We cleared our shelves and restocked with the new products. Ah right, doesn’t sound like it was such a big deal then and isn’t anywhere near as serious as the problems now facing certain businesses due to Brexit Any idea how much stock we had to get rid of and reinvest in the new product? Machinery that we had to invest in? New notifications to the EU which had to be paid for each individual product? Amongst a variety of other things. Who am I kidding? Of course you don't. But my point stands. The only reason this is news is because of the timing. Everyone failing now will blame Brexit. What about the thousands of businesses that close every year? Anyone give a fuck? Nah, didn't think so. Cause and effect These business are closing due to Brexit What sort of industry where you in that destroyed by legislation changes or was it just health and safety and you didn’t keep up? Businesses fail every day because they are badly run but if you are prevented from selling then you are not badly run you just can’t sell! So you’re fucked. Every exporter in tne country is affected by Brexit they are not the victims of random timing! It was nothing to do with H&S. It was a complete reg change on the products. 95% of products had to go to be replaced by new ones. And would you believe it, the new ones had a massive impact on the amount on waste we now produce as an industry
So why were the changes brought in if they are so damaging ? There must be a reason that’s understandable to us simple people .
There is no understandable reason.
Which is why the UK are now looking to change it back.
Please try to explain as it’s sounding like you just aren’t at the game where the others must have been. Or where just U.K. firms targeted?
It wasn't just UK businesses. It was the whole of the EU. Every single manufacturer.
Which industry?
The e-cigarette industry. Its considerably bigger than the fishing industry too
Are they know thriving again since Brexit ?
Now
All shops are closed and the UK governement are reviewing the regs.
The industry continue to thrive but had to massively adapt.
That's my whole point. Adapt and overcome.
The UK are a net importer on seafood so why can't we sell local? I'm far from an expert in the fishing industry obviously though
How long were you given to ‘adapt and overcome ‘
Long enough but you still fail to miss the point. The UK adapted fairly quickly, the rest of the EU slower and the rest of the world didn't adapt until after the regs kicked in meaning we couldn't get a lot of product that we were getting prior."Why did the rest of the world have to follow the EUs regulations? | |||
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"you can get salmon 5 quid a kilo on Stockton market smoked who needs the eu The people who are seeing their livelihoods going down the Swanee? I'll say it again. No one cared when the EU, and yes it was the EU made changes to my industry in 2016. In fact most of you probably never even heard about the changes. What happened? We adapted and overcame. That's what businesses do And what changes did they make? We’re you given plenty of notice? We had to come up with a new product that didn't exist before to be within the law. We were given notice yes. MHRA gave us the maximum notice allowed How long was the notice and was the new rule specific in detail rather than just general idea with a specific update one week before the law was applied? Did you have to employ new outside contractors to continue your business ? Also did it affect 100% of your business like the fish company? I think you're all missing the point. The change was made and no one gave a fuck because they didn't even know about it. The sole reason this is news is because of the timing. Do you ‘give a fuck ‘ about the businesses that are now struggling due to Brexit? Why would that matter? Because ‘giving a fuck’ is the point of your post ? Well I'm not shouting and screaming about it. But I didn't in 2016 either. Maybe you should have, did the company you worked for go out of business? I didn't work for anyone. Haven't done for 15 years. No we didn't go out of business. We cleared our shelves and restocked with the new products. Ah right, doesn’t sound like it was such a big deal then and isn’t anywhere near as serious as the problems now facing certain businesses due to Brexit Any idea how much stock we had to get rid of and reinvest in the new product? Machinery that we had to invest in? New notifications to the EU which had to be paid for each individual product? Amongst a variety of other things. Who am I kidding? Of course you don't. But my point stands. The only reason this is news is because of the timing. Everyone failing now will blame Brexit. What about the thousands of businesses that close every year? Anyone give a fuck? Nah, didn't think so. Cause and effect These business are closing due to Brexit What sort of industry where you in that destroyed by legislation changes or was it just health and safety and you didn’t keep up? Businesses fail every day because they are badly run but if you are prevented from selling then you are not badly run you just can’t sell! So you’re fucked. Every exporter in tne country is affected by Brexit they are not the victims of random timing! It was nothing to do with H&S. It was a complete reg change on the products. 95% of products had to go to be replaced by new ones. And would you believe it, the new ones had a massive impact on the amount on waste we now produce as an industry
So why were the changes brought in if they are so damaging ? There must be a reason that’s understandable to us simple people .
There is no understandable reason.
Which is why the UK are now looking to change it back.
Please try to explain as it’s sounding like you just aren’t at the game where the others must have been. Or where just U.K. firms targeted?
It wasn't just UK businesses. It was the whole of the EU. Every single manufacturer.
Which industry?
The e-cigarette industry. Its considerably bigger than the fishing industry too
Are they know thriving again since Brexit ?
Now
All shops are closed and the UK governement are reviewing the regs.
The industry continue to thrive but had to massively adapt.
That's my whole point. Adapt and overcome.
The UK are a net importer on seafood so why can't we sell local? I'm far from an expert in the fishing industry obviously though
How long were you given to ‘adapt and overcome ‘ "Long enough but you still fail to see the point. The UK adapted fairly quickly, the rest of the EU slower and the rest of the world didn't adapt until after the regs kicked in meaning we couldn't get a lot of product that we were getting prior. | |||
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"I didn't vote leave! "Brexit unfolded exactly as expected" How can that be when leavers expected no deal and go to WTO rules, listening to all the whines and moans on here, who's to say that wouldn't have been better? We'll never know i suppose? Leave voters ‘expected a no deal and WTO rules’ ? Really? Why was it not a condition on the ballot paper? So all 17.4 million leave voters voted for a no deal? Read some of the comments on here you would believe everyone is talking in absolutes and 100% for everything, nut no i didn't say that but it wasn't a condition was it? What are you talking about? Did you see or read any of the leave campaigns claims, leaving without a deal was never considered . Did i mention the campaigns? I asked about the ballot paper This is hilarious, are you being serious? Simple question, was it on the ballot paper? Was what on the ballot paper ? How can you have made so many derogatory remarks without knowing what you had been talking about? Remain or "leave only with a deal"? It was a binary question, leave or remain. We have now left with this deal, can you explain what is your point ? My point was made earlier, leavers would have left sans Deal it's the remainers who wanted the deal that UK negotiated for" Incredible | |||
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"you can get salmon 5 quid a kilo on Stockton market smoked who needs the eu The people who are seeing their livelihoods going down the Swanee? I'll say it again. No one cared when the EU, and yes it was the EU made changes to my industry in 2016. In fact most of you probably never even heard about the changes. What happened? We adapted and overcame. That's what businesses do And what changes did they make? We’re you given plenty of notice? We had to come up with a new product that didn't exist before to be within the law. We were given notice yes. MHRA gave us the maximum notice allowed How long was the notice and was the new rule specific in detail rather than just general idea with a specific update one week before the law was applied? Did you have to employ new outside contractors to continue your business ? Also did it affect 100% of your business like the fish company? I think you're all missing the point. The change was made and no one gave a fuck because they didn't even know about it. The sole reason this is news is because of the timing. Do you ‘give a fuck ‘ about the businesses that are now struggling due to Brexit? Why would that matter? Because ‘giving a fuck’ is the point of your post ? Well I'm not shouting and screaming about it. But I didn't in 2016 either. Maybe you should have, did the company you worked for go out of business? I didn't work for anyone. Haven't done for 15 years. No we didn't go out of business. We cleared our shelves and restocked with the new products. Ah right, doesn’t sound like it was such a big deal then and isn’t anywhere near as serious as the problems now facing certain businesses due to Brexit Any idea how much stock we had to get rid of and reinvest in the new product? Machinery that we had to invest in? New notifications to the EU which had to be paid for each individual product? Amongst a variety of other things. Who am I kidding? Of course you don't. But my point stands. The only reason this is news is because of the timing. Everyone failing now will blame Brexit. What about the thousands of businesses that close every year? Anyone give a fuck? Nah, didn't think so. Cause and effect These business are closing due to Brexit What sort of industry where you in that destroyed by legislation changes or was it just health and safety and you didn’t keep up? Businesses fail every day because they are badly run but if you are prevented from selling then you are not badly run you just can’t sell! So you’re fucked. Every exporter in tne country is affected by Brexit they are not the victims of random timing! It was nothing to do with H&S. It was a complete reg change on the products. 95% of products had to go to be replaced by new ones. And would you believe it, the new ones had a massive impact on the amount on waste we now produce as an industry
So why were the changes brought in if they are so damaging ? There must be a reason that’s understandable to us simple people .
There is no understandable reason.
Which is why the UK are now looking to change it back.
Please try to explain as it’s sounding like you just aren’t at the game where the others must have been. Or where just U.K. firms targeted?
It wasn't just UK businesses. It was the whole of the EU. Every single manufacturer.
Which industry?
The e-cigarette industry. Its considerably bigger than the fishing industry too
Are they know thriving again since Brexit ?
Now
All shops are closed and the UK governement are reviewing the regs.
The industry continue to thrive but had to massively adapt.
That's my whole point. Adapt and overcome.
The UK are a net importer on seafood so why can't we sell local? I'm far from an expert in the fishing industry obviously though
How long were you given to ‘adapt and overcome ‘
Long enough but you still fail to miss the point. The UK adapted fairly quickly, the rest of the EU slower and the rest of the world didn't adapt until after the regs kicked in meaning we couldn't get a lot of product that we were getting prior.
Why did the rest of the world have to follow the EUs regulations? "Because they wanted to sell into our market. Just like the fishermen have to adapt to sell into the EUs market. Isn't that the whole issue? | |||
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"I didn't vote leave! "Brexit unfolded exactly as expected" How can that be when leavers expected no deal and go to WTO rules, listening to all the whines and moans on here, who's to say that wouldn't have been better? We'll never know i suppose? Leave voters ‘expected a no deal and WTO rules’ ? Really? Why was it not a condition on the ballot paper? So all 17.4 million leave voters voted for a no deal? Read some of the comments on here you would believe everyone is talking in absolutes and 100% for everything, nut no i didn't say that but it wasn't a condition was it? What are you talking about? Did you see or read any of the leave campaigns claims, leaving without a deal was never considered . Did i mention the campaigns? I asked about the ballot paper This is hilarious, are you being serious? Simple question, was it on the ballot paper? Was what on the ballot paper ? How can you have made so many derogatory remarks without knowing what you had been talking about? Remain or "leave only with a deal"? It was a binary question, leave or remain. We have now left with this deal, can you explain what is your point ? My point was made earlier, leavers would have left sans Deal it's the remainers who wanted the deal that UK negotiated for Haha, so the leave voters wanted a no deal? They must be unhappy now ? So it’s the remain voters fault that we have this deal in place? Why didn’t Boris just go for a no deal to please the ‘will of the people’ This also has been asked and answered, it was to try and bring the nation back together." This is beyond hilarious. So we have a deal that leave and remain voters don’t want . Nice work Boris | |||
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"I didn't vote leave! "Brexit unfolded exactly as expected" How can that be when leavers expected no deal and go to WTO rules, listening to all the whines and moans on here, who's to say that wouldn't have been better? We'll never know i suppose? Leave voters ‘expected a no deal and WTO rules’ ? Really? Why was it not a condition on the ballot paper? So all 17.4 million leave voters voted for a no deal? Read some of the comments on here you would believe everyone is talking in absolutes and 100% for everything, nut no i didn't say that but it wasn't a condition was it? What are you talking about? Did you see or read any of the leave campaigns claims, leaving without a deal was never considered . Did i mention the campaigns? I asked about the ballot paper This is hilarious, are you being serious? Simple question, was it on the ballot paper? Was what on the ballot paper ? How can you have made so many derogatory remarks without knowing what you had been talking about? Remain or "leave only with a deal"? It was a binary question, leave or remain. We have now left with this deal, can you explain what is your point ? My point was made earlier, leavers would have left sans Deal it's the remainers who wanted the deal that UK negotiated for Haha, so the leave voters wanted a no deal? They must be unhappy now ? So it’s the remain voters fault that we have this deal in place? Why didn’t Boris just go for a no deal to please the ‘will of the people’ This also has been asked and answered, it was to try and bring the nation back together. This is beyond hilarious. So we have a deal that leave and remain voters don’t want . Nice work Boris "Not BoJo's fault, he played the cards he was dealt | |||
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"you can get salmon 5 quid a kilo on Stockton market smoked who needs the eu The people who are seeing their livelihoods going down the Swanee? I'll say it again. No one cared when the EU, and yes it was the EU made changes to my industry in 2016. In fact most of you probably never even heard about the changes. What happened? We adapted and overcame. That's what businesses do And what changes did they make? We’re you given plenty of notice? We had to come up with a new product that didn't exist before to be within the law. We were given notice yes. MHRA gave us the maximum notice allowed How long was the notice and was the new rule specific in detail rather than just general idea with a specific update one week before the law was applied? Did you have to employ new outside contractors to continue your business ? Also did it affect 100% of your business like the fish company? I think you're all missing the point. The change was made and no one gave a fuck because they didn't even know about it. The sole reason this is news is because of the timing. Do you ‘give a fuck ‘ about the businesses that are now struggling due to Brexit? Why would that matter? Because ‘giving a fuck’ is the point of your post ? Well I'm not shouting and screaming about it. But I didn't in 2016 either. Maybe you should have, did the company you worked for go out of business? I didn't work for anyone. Haven't done for 15 years. No we didn't go out of business. We cleared our shelves and restocked with the new products. Ah right, doesn’t sound like it was such a big deal then and isn’t anywhere near as serious as the problems now facing certain businesses due to Brexit Any idea how much stock we had to get rid of and reinvest in the new product? Machinery that we had to invest in? New notifications to the EU which had to be paid for each individual product? Amongst a variety of other things. Who am I kidding? Of course you don't. But my point stands. The only reason this is news is because of the timing. Everyone failing now will blame Brexit. What about the thousands of businesses that close every year? Anyone give a fuck? Nah, didn't think so. Cause and effect These business are closing due to Brexit What sort of industry where you in that destroyed by legislation changes or was it just health and safety and you didn’t keep up? Businesses fail every day because they are badly run but if you are prevented from selling then you are not badly run you just can’t sell! So you’re fucked. Every exporter in tne country is affected by Brexit they are not the victims of random timing! It was nothing to do with H&S. It was a complete reg change on the products. 95% of products had to go to be replaced by new ones. And would you believe it, the new ones had a massive impact on the amount on waste we now produce as an industry
So why were the changes brought in if they are so damaging ? There must be a reason that’s understandable to us simple people .
There is no understandable reason.
Which is why the UK are now looking to change it back.
Please try to explain as it’s sounding like you just aren’t at the game where the others must have been. Or where just U.K. firms targeted?
It wasn't just UK businesses. It was the whole of the EU. Every single manufacturer.
Which industry?
The e-cigarette industry. Its considerably bigger than the fishing industry too
Are they know thriving again since Brexit ?
Now
All shops are closed and the UK governement are reviewing the regs.
The industry continue to thrive but had to massively adapt.
That's my whole point. Adapt and overcome.
The UK are a net importer on seafood so why can't we sell local? I'm far from an expert in the fishing industry obviously though"You seem to be missing the point. I'm guessing most businesses need to adapt to a certain degree But Brexit was totally self inflicted 'The people 'voted for it because the country was promised 'sunny uplands' Whilst its early days ,it doesnt look very sunny. | |||
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"you can get salmon 5 quid a kilo on Stockton market smoked who needs the eu The people who are seeing their livelihoods going down the Swanee? I'll say it again. No one cared when the EU, and yes it was the EU made changes to my industry in 2016. In fact most of you probably never even heard about the changes. What happened? We adapted and overcame. That's what businesses do And what changes did they make? We’re you given plenty of notice? We had to come up with a new product that didn't exist before to be within the law. We were given notice yes. MHRA gave us the maximum notice allowed How long was the notice and was the new rule specific in detail rather than just general idea with a specific update one week before the law was applied? Did you have to employ new outside contractors to continue your business ? Also did it affect 100% of your business like the fish company? I think you're all missing the point. The change was made and no one gave a fuck because they didn't even know about it. The sole reason this is news is because of the timing. Do you ‘give a fuck ‘ about the businesses that are now struggling due to Brexit? Why would that matter? Because ‘giving a fuck’ is the point of your post ? Well I'm not shouting and screaming about it. But I didn't in 2016 either. Maybe you should have, did the company you worked for go out of business? I didn't work for anyone. Haven't done for 15 years. No we didn't go out of business. We cleared our shelves and restocked with the new products. Ah right, doesn’t sound like it was such a big deal then and isn’t anywhere near as serious as the problems now facing certain businesses due to Brexit Any idea how much stock we had to get rid of and reinvest in the new product? Machinery that we had to invest in? New notifications to the EU which had to be paid for each individual product? Amongst a variety of other things. Who am I kidding? Of course you don't. But my point stands. The only reason this is news is because of the timing. Everyone failing now will blame Brexit. What about the thousands of businesses that close every year? Anyone give a fuck? Nah, didn't think so. Cause and effect These business are closing due to Brexit What sort of industry where you in that destroyed by legislation changes or was it just health and safety and you didn’t keep up? Businesses fail every day because they are badly run but if you are prevented from selling then you are not badly run you just can’t sell! So you’re fucked. Every exporter in tne country is affected by Brexit they are not the victims of random timing! It was nothing to do with H&S. It was a complete reg change on the products. 95% of products had to go to be replaced by new ones. And would you believe it, the new ones had a massive impact on the amount on waste we now produce as an industry
So why were the changes brought in if they are so damaging ? There must be a reason that’s understandable to us simple people .
There is no understandable reason.
Which is why the UK are now looking to change it back.
Please try to explain as it’s sounding like you just aren’t at the game where the others must have been. Or where just U.K. firms targeted?
It wasn't just UK businesses. It was the whole of the EU. Every single manufacturer.
Which industry?
The e-cigarette industry. Its considerably bigger than the fishing industry too
Are they know thriving again since Brexit ?
Now
All shops are closed and the UK governement are reviewing the regs.
The industry continue to thrive but had to massively adapt.
That's my whole point. Adapt and overcome.
The UK are a net importer on seafood so why can't we sell local? I'm far from an expert in the fishing industry obviously though
How long were you given to ‘adapt and overcome ‘
Long enough but you still fail to miss the point. The UK adapted fairly quickly, the rest of the EU slower and the rest of the world didn't adapt until after the regs kicked in meaning we couldn't get a lot of product that we were getting prior.
Why did the rest of the world have to follow the EUs regulations?
Because they wanted to sell into our market. Just like the fishermen have to adapt to sell into the EUs market. Isn't that the whole issue?"No, the whole issue is about promises being broken , at no point we’re the e cigarette industry asked to vote in a referendum that would ultimately ruin their industry . The fishing industry were promised Brexit would be an advantage, it isn’t . | |||
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"I didn't vote leave! "Brexit unfolded exactly as expected" How can that be when leavers expected no deal and go to WTO rules, listening to all the whines and moans on here, who's to say that wouldn't have been better? We'll never know i suppose? Leave voters ‘expected a no deal and WTO rules’ ? Really? Why was it not a condition on the ballot paper? So all 17.4 million leave voters voted for a no deal? Read some of the comments on here you would believe everyone is talking in absolutes and 100% for everything, nut no i didn't say that but it wasn't a condition was it? What are you talking about? Did you see or read any of the leave campaigns claims, leaving without a deal was never considered . Did i mention the campaigns? I asked about the ballot paper This is hilarious, are you being serious? Simple question, was it on the ballot paper? Was what on the ballot paper ? How can you have made so many derogatory remarks without knowing what you had been talking about? Remain or "leave only with a deal"? It was a binary question, leave or remain. We have now left with this deal, can you explain what is your point ? My point was made earlier, leavers would have left sans Deal it's the remainers who wanted the deal that UK negotiated for Haha, so the leave voters wanted a no deal? They must be unhappy now ? So it’s the remain voters fault that we have this deal in place? Why didn’t Boris just go for a no deal to please the ‘will of the people’ This also has been asked and answered, it was to try and bring the nation back together. This is beyond hilarious. So we have a deal that leave and remain voters don’t want . Nice work Boris
Not BoJo's fault, he played the cards he was dealt"He dealt his own cards! He was the one who campaigned for brexit. He can hardly complain that he then has to deal with brexit. | |||
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"I didn't vote leave! "Brexit unfolded exactly as expected" How can that be when leavers expected no deal and go to WTO rules, listening to all the whines and moans on here, who's to say that wouldn't have been better? We'll never know i suppose? Leave voters ‘expected a no deal and WTO rules’ ? Really? Why was it not a condition on the ballot paper? So all 17.4 million leave voters voted for a no deal? Read some of the comments on here you would believe everyone is talking in absolutes and 100% for everything, nut no i didn't say that but it wasn't a condition was it? What are you talking about? Did you see or read any of the leave campaigns claims, leaving without a deal was never considered . Did i mention the campaigns? I asked about the ballot paper This is hilarious, are you being serious? Simple question, was it on the ballot paper? Was what on the ballot paper ? How can you have made so many derogatory remarks without knowing what you had been talking about? Remain or "leave only with a deal"? It was a binary question, leave or remain. We have now left with this deal, can you explain what is your point ? My point was made earlier, leavers would have left sans Deal it's the remainers who wanted the deal that UK negotiated for Haha, so the leave voters wanted a no deal? They must be unhappy now ? So it’s the remain voters fault that we have this deal in place? Why didn’t Boris just go for a no deal to please the ‘will of the people’ This also has been asked and answered, it was to try and bring the nation back together. This is beyond hilarious. So we have a deal that leave and remain voters don’t want . Nice work Boris
Not BoJo's fault, he played the cards he was dealt"Ah, so who is to blame ? Nobody has got what they wanted, what a shit show | |||
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"I didn't vote leave! "Brexit unfolded exactly as expected" How can that be when leavers expected no deal and go to WTO rules, listening to all the whines and moans on here, who's to say that wouldn't have been better? We'll never know i suppose? Leave voters ‘expected a no deal and WTO rules’ ? Really? Why was it not a condition on the ballot paper? So all 17.4 million leave voters voted for a no deal? Read some of the comments on here you would believe everyone is talking in absolutes and 100% for everything, nut no i didn't say that but it wasn't a condition was it? What are you talking about? Did you see or read any of the leave campaigns claims, leaving without a deal was never considered . Did i mention the campaigns? I asked about the ballot paper This is hilarious, are you being serious? Simple question, was it on the ballot paper? Was what on the ballot paper ? How can you have made so many derogatory remarks without knowing what you had been talking about? Remain or "leave only with a deal"? It was a binary question, leave or remain. We have now left with this deal, can you explain what is your point ? My point was made earlier, leavers would have left sans Deal it's the remainers who wanted the deal that UK negotiated for Haha, so the leave voters wanted a no deal? They must be unhappy now ? So it’s the remain voters fault that we have this deal in place? Why didn’t Boris just go for a no deal to please the ‘will of the people’ This also has been asked and answered, it was to try and bring the nation back together. This is beyond hilarious. So we have a deal that leave and remain voters don’t want . Nice work Boris
Not BoJo's fault, he played the cards he was dealt"Boris campaigned for Brexit He won the election on The promise that he would get Brexit done. He was personally involved in the negotiations But because it's gone to shit ,he is absolved of any responsibility | |||
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"I didn't vote leave! "Brexit unfolded exactly as expected" How can that be when leavers expected no deal and go to WTO rules, listening to all the whines and moans on here, who's to say that wouldn't have been better? We'll never know i suppose? Leave voters ‘expected a no deal and WTO rules’ ? Really? Why was it not a condition on the ballot paper? So all 17.4 million leave voters voted for a no deal? Read some of the comments on here you would believe everyone is talking in absolutes and 100% for everything, nut no i didn't say that but it wasn't a condition was it? What are you talking about? Did you see or read any of the leave campaigns claims, leaving without a deal was never considered . Did i mention the campaigns? I asked about the ballot paper This is hilarious, are you being serious? Simple question, was it on the ballot paper? Was what on the ballot paper ? How can you have made so many derogatory remarks without knowing what you had been talking about? Remain or "leave only with a deal"? It was a binary question, leave or remain. We have now left with this deal, can you explain what is your point ? My point was made earlier, leavers would have left sans Deal it's the remainers who wanted the deal that UK negotiated for Haha, so the leave voters wanted a no deal? They must be unhappy now ? So it’s the remain voters fault that we have this deal in place? Why didn’t Boris just go for a no deal to please the ‘will of the people’ This also has been asked and answered, it was to try and bring the nation back together. This is beyond hilarious. So we have a deal that leave and remain voters don’t want . Nice work Boris
Not BoJo's fault, he played the cards he was dealt
He dealt his own cards! He was the one who campaigned for brexit.
He can hardly complain that he then has to deal with brexit."Had he been in charge from the beginning maybe but he wasn't. Mrs May has more of the blame to carry than BoJo | |||
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"I didn't vote leave! "Brexit unfolded exactly as expected" How can that be when leavers expected no deal and go to WTO rules, listening to all the whines and moans on here, who's to say that wouldn't have been better? We'll never know i suppose? Leave voters ‘expected a no deal and WTO rules’ ? Really? Why was it not a condition on the ballot paper? So all 17.4 million leave voters voted for a no deal? Read some of the comments on here you would believe everyone is talking in absolutes and 100% for everything, nut no i didn't say that but it wasn't a condition was it? What are you talking about? Did you see or read any of the leave campaigns claims, leaving without a deal was never considered . Did i mention the campaigns? I asked about the ballot paper This is hilarious, are you being serious? Simple question, was it on the ballot paper? Was what on the ballot paper ? How can you have made so many derogatory remarks without knowing what you had been talking about? Remain or "leave only with a deal"? It was a binary question, leave or remain. We have now left with this deal, can you explain what is your point ? My point was made earlier, leavers would have left sans Deal it's the remainers who wanted the deal that UK negotiated for Haha, so the leave voters wanted a no deal? They must be unhappy now ? So it’s the remain voters fault that we have this deal in place? Why didn’t Boris just go for a no deal to please the ‘will of the people’ This also has been asked and answered, it was to try and bring the nation back together. This is beyond hilarious. So we have a deal that leave and remain voters don’t want . Nice work Boris
Not BoJo's fault, he played the cards he was dealt
Ah, so who is to blame ? Nobody has got what they wanted, what a shit show "If only there had been some way of predicting this before 2016. | |||
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"I didn't vote leave! "Brexit unfolded exactly as expected" How can that be when leavers expected no deal and go to WTO rules, listening to all the whines and moans on here, who's to say that wouldn't have been better? We'll never know i suppose? Leave voters ‘expected a no deal and WTO rules’ ? Really? Why was it not a condition on the ballot paper? So all 17.4 million leave voters voted for a no deal? Read some of the comments on here you would believe everyone is talking in absolutes and 100% for everything, nut no i didn't say that but it wasn't a condition was it? What are you talking about? Did you see or read any of the leave campaigns claims, leaving without a deal was never considered . Did i mention the campaigns? I asked about the ballot paper This is hilarious, are you being serious? Simple question, was it on the ballot paper? Was what on the ballot paper ? How can you have made so many derogatory remarks without knowing what you had been talking about? Remain or "leave only with a deal"? It was a binary question, leave or remain. We have now left with this deal, can you explain what is your point ? My point was made earlier, leavers would have left sans Deal it's the remainers who wanted the deal that UK negotiated for Haha, so the leave voters wanted a no deal? They must be unhappy now ? So it’s the remain voters fault that we have this deal in place? Why didn’t Boris just go for a no deal to please the ‘will of the people’ This also has been asked and answered, it was to try and bring the nation back together. This is beyond hilarious. So we have a deal that leave and remain voters don’t want . Nice work Boris
Not BoJo's fault, he played the cards he was dealt
He dealt his own cards! He was the one who campaigned for brexit.
He can hardly complain that he then has to deal with brexit.
Had he been in charge from the beginning maybe but he wasn't. Mrs May has more of the blame to carry than BoJo"Boris voted against Mays deal. Then became PM. And pushed the exact same deal. | |||
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"I didn't vote leave! "Brexit unfolded exactly as expected" How can that be when leavers expected no deal and go to WTO rules, listening to all the whines and moans on here, who's to say that wouldn't have been better? We'll never know i suppose? Leave voters ‘expected a no deal and WTO rules’ ? Really? Why was it not a condition on the ballot paper? So all 17.4 million leave voters voted for a no deal? Read some of the comments on here you would believe everyone is talking in absolutes and 100% for everything, nut no i didn't say that but it wasn't a condition was it? What are you talking about? Did you see or read any of the leave campaigns claims, leaving without a deal was never considered . Did i mention the campaigns? I asked about the ballot paper This is hilarious, are you being serious? Simple question, was it on the ballot paper? Was what on the ballot paper ? How can you have made so many derogatory remarks without knowing what you had been talking about? Remain or "leave only with a deal"? It was a binary question, leave or remain. We have now left with this deal, can you explain what is your point ? My point was made earlier, leavers would have left sans Deal it's the remainers who wanted the deal that UK negotiated for Haha, so the leave voters wanted a no deal? They must be unhappy now ? So it’s the remain voters fault that we have this deal in place? Why didn’t Boris just go for a no deal to please the ‘will of the people’ This also has been asked and answered, it was to try and bring the nation back together. This is beyond hilarious. So we have a deal that leave and remain voters don’t want . Nice work Boris
Not BoJo's fault, he played the cards he was dealt
Boris campaigned for Brexit
He won the election on The promise that he would get Brexit done.
He was personally involved in the negotiations
But because it's gone to shit ,he is absolved of any responsibility
"Had he been in charge from the beginning maybe but he wasn't. Mrs May has more of the blame to carry than BoJo. May should have handled it very differently | |||
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"I didn't vote leave! "Brexit unfolded exactly as expected" How can that be when leavers expected no deal and go to WTO rules, listening to all the whines and moans on here, who's to say that wouldn't have been better? We'll never know i suppose? Leave voters ‘expected a no deal and WTO rules’ ? Really? Why was it not a condition on the ballot paper? So all 17.4 million leave voters voted for a no deal? Read some of the comments on here you would believe everyone is talking in absolutes and 100% for everything, nut no i didn't say that but it wasn't a condition was it? What are you talking about? Did you see or read any of the leave campaigns claims, leaving without a deal was never considered . Did i mention the campaigns? I asked about the ballot paper This is hilarious, are you being serious? Simple question, was it on the ballot paper? Was what on the ballot paper ? How can you have made so many derogatory remarks without knowing what you had been talking about? Remain or "leave only with a deal"? It was a binary question, leave or remain. We have now left with this deal, can you explain what is your point ? My point was made earlier, leavers would have left sans Deal it's the remainers who wanted the deal that UK negotiated for Haha, so the leave voters wanted a no deal? They must be unhappy now ? So it’s the remain voters fault that we have this deal in place? Why didn’t Boris just go for a no deal to please the ‘will of the people’ This also has been asked and answered, it was to try and bring the nation back together. This is beyond hilarious. So we have a deal that leave and remain voters don’t want . Nice work Boris
Not BoJo's fault, he played the cards he was dealt
He dealt his own cards! He was the one who campaigned for brexit.
He can hardly complain that he then has to deal with brexit.
Had he been in charge from the beginning maybe but he wasn't. Mrs May has more of the blame to carry than BoJo
Boris voted against Mays deal.
Then became PM. And pushed the exact same deal."May's deal was $hite but the die had been cast long before that. | |||
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"I didn't vote leave! "Brexit unfolded exactly as expected" How can that be when leavers expected no deal and go to WTO rules, listening to all the whines and moans on here, who's to say that wouldn't have been better? We'll never know i suppose? Leave voters ‘expected a no deal and WTO rules’ ? Really? Why was it not a condition on the ballot paper? So all 17.4 million leave voters voted for a no deal? Read some of the comments on here you would believe everyone is talking in absolutes and 100% for everything, nut no i didn't say that but it wasn't a condition was it? What are you talking about? Did you see or read any of the leave campaigns claims, leaving without a deal was never considered . Did i mention the campaigns? I asked about the ballot paper This is hilarious, are you being serious? Simple question, was it on the ballot paper? Was what on the ballot paper ? How can you have made so many derogatory remarks without knowing what you had been talking about? Remain or "leave only with a deal"? It was a binary question, leave or remain. We have now left with this deal, can you explain what is your point ? My point was made earlier, leavers would have left sans Deal it's the remainers who wanted the deal that UK negotiated for Haha, so the leave voters wanted a no deal? They must be unhappy now ? So it’s the remain voters fault that we have this deal in place? Why didn’t Boris just go for a no deal to please the ‘will of the people’ This also has been asked and answered, it was to try and bring the nation back together. This is beyond hilarious. So we have a deal that leave and remain voters don’t want . Nice work Boris
Not BoJo's fault, he played the cards he was dealt
Boris campaigned for Brexit
He won the election on The promise that he would get Brexit done.
He was personally involved in the negotiations
But because it's gone to shit ,he is absolved of any responsibility
Had he been in charge from the beginning maybe but he wasn't. Mrs May has more of the blame to carry than BoJo.
May should have handled it very differently"She was voted into government by the ‘will of the people’ and that’s all that matters | |||
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"I didn't vote leave! "Brexit unfolded exactly as expected" How can that be when leavers expected no deal and go to WTO rules, listening to all the whines and moans on here, who's to say that wouldn't have been better? We'll never know i suppose? Leave voters ‘expected a no deal and WTO rules’ ? Really? Why was it not a condition on the ballot paper? So all 17.4 million leave voters voted for a no deal? Read some of the comments on here you would believe everyone is talking in absolutes and 100% for everything, nut no i didn't say that but it wasn't a condition was it? What are you talking about? Did you see or read any of the leave campaigns claims, leaving without a deal was never considered . Did i mention the campaigns? I asked about the ballot paper This is hilarious, are you being serious? Simple question, was it on the ballot paper? Was what on the ballot paper ? How can you have made so many derogatory remarks without knowing what you had been talking about? Remain or "leave only with a deal"? It was a binary question, leave or remain. We have now left with this deal, can you explain what is your point ? My point was made earlier, leavers would have left sans Deal it's the remainers who wanted the deal that UK negotiated for Haha, so the leave voters wanted a no deal? They must be unhappy now ? So it’s the remain voters fault that we have this deal in place? Why didn’t Boris just go for a no deal to please the ‘will of the people’ This also has been asked and answered, it was to try and bring the nation back together. This is beyond hilarious. So we have a deal that leave and remain voters don’t want . Nice work Boris
Not BoJo's fault, he played the cards he was dealt
He dealt his own cards! He was the one who campaigned for brexit.
He can hardly complain that he then has to deal with brexit.
Had he been in charge from the beginning maybe but he wasn't. Mrs May has more of the blame to carry than BoJo"I suspect this is some sort of wind up | |||
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"I didn't vote leave! "Brexit unfolded exactly as expected" How can that be when leavers expected no deal and go to WTO rules, listening to all the whines and moans on here, who's to say that wouldn't have been better? We'll never know i suppose? Leave voters ‘expected a no deal and WTO rules’ ? Really? Why was it not a condition on the ballot paper? So all 17.4 million leave voters voted for a no deal? Read some of the comments on here you would believe everyone is talking in absolutes and 100% for everything, nut no i didn't say that but it wasn't a condition was it? What are you talking about? Did you see or read any of the leave campaigns claims, leaving without a deal was never considered . Did i mention the campaigns? I asked about the ballot paper This is hilarious, are you being serious? Simple question, was it on the ballot paper? Was what on the ballot paper ? How can you have made so many derogatory remarks without knowing what you had been talking about? Remain or "leave only with a deal"? It was a binary question, leave or remain. We have now left with this deal, can you explain what is your point ? My point was made earlier, leavers would have left sans Deal it's the remainers who wanted the deal that UK negotiated for Haha, so the leave voters wanted a no deal? They must be unhappy now ? So it’s the remain voters fault that we have this deal in place? Why didn’t Boris just go for a no deal to please the ‘will of the people’ This also has been asked and answered, it was to try and bring the nation back together. This is beyond hilarious. So we have a deal that leave and remain voters don’t want . Nice work Boris
Not BoJo's fault, he played the cards he was dealt
He dealt his own cards! He was the one who campaigned for brexit.
He can hardly complain that he then has to deal with brexit.
Had he been in charge from the beginning maybe but he wasn't. Mrs May has more of the blame to carry than BoJo
Boris voted against Mays deal.
Then became PM. And pushed the exact same deal.
May's deal was $hite but the die had been cast long before that."Well I agree to this part. Any deal was a bag of shit. But Boris and co did campaign on the ticket that they would get a deal. | |||
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"you can get salmon 5 quid a kilo on Stockton market smoked who needs the eu The people who are seeing their livelihoods going down the Swanee? I'll say it again. No one cared when the EU, and yes it was the EU made changes to my industry in 2016. In fact most of you probably never even heard about the changes. What happened? We adapted and overcame. That's what businesses do And what changes did they make? We’re you given plenty of notice? We had to come up with a new product that didn't exist before to be within the law. We were given notice yes. MHRA gave us the maximum notice allowed How long was the notice and was the new rule specific in detail rather than just general idea with a specific update one week before the law was applied? Did you have to employ new outside contractors to continue your business ? Also did it affect 100% of your business like the fish company? I think you're all missing the point. The change was made and no one gave a fuck because they didn't even know about it. The sole reason this is news is because of the timing. Do you ‘give a fuck ‘ about the businesses that are now struggling due to Brexit? Why would that matter? Because ‘giving a fuck’ is the point of your post ? Well I'm not shouting and screaming about it. But I didn't in 2016 either. Maybe you should have, did the company you worked for go out of business? I didn't work for anyone. Haven't done for 15 years. No we didn't go out of business. We cleared our shelves and restocked with the new products. Ah right, doesn’t sound like it was such a big deal then and isn’t anywhere near as serious as the problems now facing certain businesses due to Brexit Any idea how much stock we had to get rid of and reinvest in the new product? Machinery that we had to invest in? New notifications to the EU which had to be paid for each individual product? Amongst a variety of other things. Who am I kidding? Of course you don't. But my point stands. The only reason this is news is because of the timing. Everyone failing now will blame Brexit. What about the thousands of businesses that close every year? Anyone give a fuck? Nah, didn't think so. Cause and effect These business are closing due to Brexit What sort of industry where you in that destroyed by legislation changes or was it just health and safety and you didn’t keep up? Businesses fail every day because they are badly run but if you are prevented from selling then you are not badly run you just can’t sell! So you’re fucked. Every exporter in tne country is affected by Brexit they are not the victims of random timing! It was nothing to do with H&S. It was a complete reg change on the products. 95% of products had to go to be replaced by new ones. And would you believe it, the new ones had a massive impact on the amount on waste we now produce as an industry
So why were the changes brought in if they are so damaging ? There must be a reason that’s understandable to us simple people .
There is no understandable reason.
Which is why the UK are now looking to change it back.
Please try to explain as it’s sounding like you just aren’t at the game where the others must have been. Or where just U.K. firms targeted?
It wasn't just UK businesses. It was the whole of the EU. Every single manufacturer.
Which industry?
The e-cigarette industry. Its considerably bigger than the fishing industry too
Are they know thriving again since Brexit ?
Now
All shops are closed and the UK governement are reviewing the regs.
The industry continue to thrive but had to massively adapt.
That's my whole point. Adapt and overcome.
The UK are a net importer on seafood so why can't we sell local? I'm far from an expert in the fishing industry obviously though
How long were you given to ‘adapt and overcome ‘
Long enough but you still fail to miss the point. The UK adapted fairly quickly, the rest of the EU slower and the rest of the world didn't adapt until after the regs kicked in meaning we couldn't get a lot of product that we were getting prior.
Why did the rest of the world have to follow the EUs regulations?
Because they wanted to sell into our market. Just like the fishermen have to adapt to sell into the EUs market. Isn't that the whole issue?
No, the whole issue is about promises being broken , at no point we’re the e cigarette industry asked to vote in a referendum that would ultimately ruin their industry . The fishing industry were promised Brexit would be an advantage, it isn’t . "No we weren't asked to vote. We didn't get a choice full stop. | |||
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"I didn't vote leave! "Brexit unfolded exactly as expected" How can that be when leavers expected no deal and go to WTO rules, listening to all the whines and moans on here, who's to say that wouldn't have been better? We'll never know i suppose? Leave voters ‘expected a no deal and WTO rules’ ? Really? Why was it not a condition on the ballot paper? So all 17.4 million leave voters voted for a no deal? Read some of the comments on here you would believe everyone is talking in absolutes and 100% for everything, nut no i didn't say that but it wasn't a condition was it? What are you talking about? Did you see or read any of the leave campaigns claims, leaving without a deal was never considered . Did i mention the campaigns? I asked about the ballot paper This is hilarious, are you being serious? Simple question, was it on the ballot paper? Was what on the ballot paper ? How can you have made so many derogatory remarks without knowing what you had been talking about? Remain or "leave only with a deal"? It was a binary question, leave or remain. We have now left with this deal, can you explain what is your point ? My point was made earlier, leavers would have left sans Deal it's the remainers who wanted the deal that UK negotiated for Haha, so the leave voters wanted a no deal? They must be unhappy now ? So it’s the remain voters fault that we have this deal in place? Why didn’t Boris just go for a no deal to please the ‘will of the people’ This also has been asked and answered, it was to try and bring the nation back together. This is beyond hilarious. So we have a deal that leave and remain voters don’t want . Nice work Boris
Not BoJo's fault, he played the cards he was dealt
Boris campaigned for Brexit
He won the election on The promise that he would get Brexit done.
He was personally involved in the negotiations
But because it's gone to shit ,he is absolved of any responsibility
Had he been in charge from the beginning maybe but he wasn't. Mrs May has more of the blame to carry than BoJo.
May should have handled it very differently
She was voted into government by the ‘will of the people’ and that’s all that matters "True and she got it wrong | |||
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"I didn't vote leave! "Brexit unfolded exactly as expected" How can that be when leavers expected no deal and go to WTO rules, listening to all the whines and moans on here, who's to say that wouldn't have been better? We'll never know i suppose? Leave voters ‘expected a no deal and WTO rules’ ? Really? Why was it not a condition on the ballot paper? So all 17.4 million leave voters voted for a no deal? Read some of the comments on here you would believe everyone is talking in absolutes and 100% for everything, nut no i didn't say that but it wasn't a condition was it? What are you talking about? Did you see or read any of the leave campaigns claims, leaving without a deal was never considered . Did i mention the campaigns? I asked about the ballot paper This is hilarious, are you being serious? Simple question, was it on the ballot paper? Was what on the ballot paper ? How can you have made so many derogatory remarks without knowing what you had been talking about? Remain or "leave only with a deal"? It was a binary question, leave or remain. We have now left with this deal, can you explain what is your point ? My point was made earlier, leavers would have left sans Deal it's the remainers who wanted the deal that UK negotiated for Haha, so the leave voters wanted a no deal? They must be unhappy now ? So it’s the remain voters fault that we have this deal in place? Why didn’t Boris just go for a no deal to please the ‘will of the people’ This also has been asked and answered, it was to try and bring the nation back together. This is beyond hilarious. So we have a deal that leave and remain voters don’t want . Nice work Boris
Not BoJo's fault, he played the cards he was dealt
He dealt his own cards! He was the one who campaigned for brexit.
He can hardly complain that he then has to deal with brexit.
Had he been in charge from the beginning maybe but he wasn't. Mrs May has more of the blame to carry than BoJo
I suspect this is some sort of wind up"Definitely , it has a ‘lobster party to celebrate the euro to the pound’ feel about it | |||
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"I didn't vote leave! "Brexit unfolded exactly as expected" How can that be when leavers expected no deal and go to WTO rules, listening to all the whines and moans on here, who's to say that wouldn't have been better? We'll never know i suppose? Leave voters ‘expected a no deal and WTO rules’ ? Really? Why was it not a condition on the ballot paper? So all 17.4 million leave voters voted for a no deal? Read some of the comments on here you would believe everyone is talking in absolutes and 100% for everything, nut no i didn't say that but it wasn't a condition was it? What are you talking about? Did you see or read any of the leave campaigns claims, leaving without a deal was never considered . Did i mention the campaigns? I asked about the ballot paper This is hilarious, are you being serious? Simple question, was it on the ballot paper? Was what on the ballot paper ? How can you have made so many derogatory remarks without knowing what you had been talking about? Remain or "leave only with a deal"? It was a binary question, leave or remain. We have now left with this deal, can you explain what is your point ? My point was made earlier, leavers would have left sans Deal it's the remainers who wanted the deal that UK negotiated for Haha, so the leave voters wanted a no deal? They must be unhappy now ? So it’s the remain voters fault that we have this deal in place? Why didn’t Boris just go for a no deal to please the ‘will of the people’ This also has been asked and answered, it was to try and bring the nation back together. This is beyond hilarious. So we have a deal that leave and remain voters don’t want . Nice work Boris
Not BoJo's fault, he played the cards he was dealt
Boris campaigned for Brexit
He won the election on The promise that he would get Brexit done.
He was personally involved in the negotiations
But because it's gone to shit ,he is absolved of any responsibility
Had he been in charge from the beginning maybe but he wasn't. Mrs May has more of the blame to carry than BoJo.
May should have handled it very differently
She was voted into government by the ‘will of the people’ and that’s all that matters
True and she got it wrong"It was the will of the people, are you saying their decision to vote her in place was wrong | |||
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"I didn't vote leave! "Brexit unfolded exactly as expected" How can that be when leavers expected no deal and go to WTO rules, listening to all the whines and moans on here, who's to say that wouldn't have been better? We'll never know i suppose? Leave voters ‘expected a no deal and WTO rules’ ? Really? Why was it not a condition on the ballot paper? So all 17.4 million leave voters voted for a no deal? Read some of the comments on here you would believe everyone is talking in absolutes and 100% for everything, nut no i didn't say that but it wasn't a condition was it? What are you talking about? Did you see or read any of the leave campaigns claims, leaving without a deal was never considered . Did i mention the campaigns? I asked about the ballot paper This is hilarious, are you being serious? Simple question, was it on the ballot paper? Was what on the ballot paper ? How can you have made so many derogatory remarks without knowing what you had been talking about? Remain or "leave only with a deal"? It was a binary question, leave or remain. We have now left with this deal, can you explain what is your point ? My point was made earlier, leavers would have left sans Deal it's the remainers who wanted the deal that UK negotiated for Haha, so the leave voters wanted a no deal? They must be unhappy now ? So it’s the remain voters fault that we have this deal in place? Why didn’t Boris just go for a no deal to please the ‘will of the people’ This also has been asked and answered, it was to try and bring the nation back together. This is beyond hilarious. So we have a deal that leave and remain voters don’t want . Nice work Boris
Not BoJo's fault, he played the cards he was dealt
Boris campaigned for Brexit
He won the election on The promise that he would get Brexit done.
He was personally involved in the negotiations
But because it's gone to shit ,he is absolved of any responsibility
Had he been in charge from the beginning maybe but he wasn't. Mrs May has more of the blame to carry than BoJo.
May should have handled it very differently
She was voted into government by the ‘will of the people’ and that’s all that matters
True and she got it wrong
It was the will of the people, are you saying their decision to vote her in place was wrong "She got the negotiations wrong. | |||
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"I didn't vote leave! "Brexit unfolded exactly as expected" How can that be when leavers expected no deal and go to WTO rules, listening to all the whines and moans on here, who's to say that wouldn't have been better? We'll never know i suppose? Leave voters ‘expected a no deal and WTO rules’ ? Really? Why was it not a condition on the ballot paper? So all 17.4 million leave voters voted for a no deal? Read some of the comments on here you would believe everyone is talking in absolutes and 100% for everything, nut no i didn't say that but it wasn't a condition was it? What are you talking about? Did you see or read any of the leave campaigns claims, leaving without a deal was never considered . Did i mention the campaigns? I asked about the ballot paper This is hilarious, are you being serious? Simple question, was it on the ballot paper? Was what on the ballot paper ? How can you have made so many derogatory remarks without knowing what you had been talking about? Remain or "leave only with a deal"? It was a binary question, leave or remain. We have now left with this deal, can you explain what is your point ? My point was made earlier, leavers would have left sans Deal it's the remainers who wanted the deal that UK negotiated for Haha, so the leave voters wanted a no deal? They must be unhappy now ? So it’s the remain voters fault that we have this deal in place? Why didn’t Boris just go for a no deal to please the ‘will of the people’ This also has been asked and answered, it was to try and bring the nation back together. This is beyond hilarious. So we have a deal that leave and remain voters don’t want . Nice work Boris
Not BoJo's fault, he played the cards he was dealt
Boris campaigned for Brexit
He won the election on The promise that he would get Brexit done.
He was personally involved in the negotiations
But because it's gone to shit ,he is absolved of any responsibility
Had he been in charge from the beginning maybe but he wasn't. Mrs May has more of the blame to carry than BoJo.
May should have handled it very differently
She was voted into government by the ‘will of the people’ and that’s all that matters
True and she got it wrong
It was the will of the people, are you saying their decision to vote her in place was wrong
She got the negotiations wrong."And Boris got them right? Can you remind which of the political leaders were pushing for a no deal? | |||
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"I didn't vote leave! "Brexit unfolded exactly as expected" How can that be when leavers expected no deal and go to WTO rules, listening to all the whines and moans on here, who's to say that wouldn't have been better? We'll never know i suppose? Leave voters ‘expected a no deal and WTO rules’ ? Really? Why was it not a condition on the ballot paper? So all 17.4 million leave voters voted for a no deal? Read some of the comments on here you would believe everyone is talking in absolutes and 100% for everything, nut no i didn't say that but it wasn't a condition was it? What are you talking about? Did you see or read any of the leave campaigns claims, leaving without a deal was never considered . Did i mention the campaigns? I asked about the ballot paper This is hilarious, are you being serious? Simple question, was it on the ballot paper? Was what on the ballot paper ? How can you have made so many derogatory remarks without knowing what you had been talking about? Remain or "leave only with a deal"? It was a binary question, leave or remain. We have now left with this deal, can you explain what is your point ? My point was made earlier, leavers would have left sans Deal it's the remainers who wanted the deal that UK negotiated for Haha, so the leave voters wanted a no deal? They must be unhappy now ? So it’s the remain voters fault that we have this deal in place? Why didn’t Boris just go for a no deal to please the ‘will of the people’ This also has been asked and answered, it was to try and bring the nation back together. This is beyond hilarious. So we have a deal that leave and remain voters don’t want . Nice work Boris
Not BoJo's fault, he played the cards he was dealt
Boris campaigned for Brexit
He won the election on The promise that he would get Brexit done.
He was personally involved in the negotiations
But because it's gone to shit ,he is absolved of any responsibility
Had he been in charge from the beginning maybe but he wasn't. Mrs May has more of the blame to carry than BoJo.
May should have handled it very differently
She was voted into government by the ‘will of the people’ and that’s all that matters
True and she got it wrong
It was the will of the people, are you saying their decision to vote her in place was wrong
She got the negotiations wrong."Again. I'm agreeing with this point. However she was in a shitty situation with a very weak hand. And the EU knew she had a weak hand. | |||
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"I didn't vote leave! "Brexit unfolded exactly as expected" How can that be when leavers expected no deal and go to WTO rules, listening to all the whines and moans on here, who's to say that wouldn't have been better? We'll never know i suppose? Leave voters ‘expected a no deal and WTO rules’ ? Really? Why was it not a condition on the ballot paper? So all 17.4 million leave voters voted for a no deal? Read some of the comments on here you would believe everyone is talking in absolutes and 100% for everything, nut no i didn't say that but it wasn't a condition was it? What are you talking about? Did you see or read any of the leave campaigns claims, leaving without a deal was never considered . Did i mention the campaigns? I asked about the ballot paper This is hilarious, are you being serious? Simple question, was it on the ballot paper? Was what on the ballot paper ? How can you have made so many derogatory remarks without knowing what you had been talking about? Remain or "leave only with a deal"? It was a binary question, leave or remain. We have now left with this deal, can you explain what is your point ? My point was made earlier, leavers would have left sans Deal it's the remainers who wanted the deal that UK negotiated for Haha, so the leave voters wanted a no deal? They must be unhappy now ? So it’s the remain voters fault that we have this deal in place? Why didn’t Boris just go for a no deal to please the ‘will of the people’ This also has been asked and answered, it was to try and bring the nation back together. This is beyond hilarious. So we have a deal that leave and remain voters don’t want . Nice work Boris
Not BoJo's fault, he played the cards he was dealt
Boris campaigned for Brexit
He won the election on The promise that he would get Brexit done.
He was personally involved in the negotiations
But because it's gone to shit ,he is absolved of any responsibility
Had he been in charge from the beginning maybe but he wasn't. Mrs May has more of the blame to carry than BoJo.
May should have handled it very differently
She was voted into government by the ‘will of the people’ and that’s all that matters
True and she got it wrong
It was the will of the people, are you saying their decision to vote her in place was wrong
She got the negotiations wrong.
And Boris got them right? Can you remind which of the political leaders were pushing for a no deal? "Why do you keep "putting words in my mouth"? You never send in someone to negotiate who obviously doesn't believe in what they are fighting for, May just rolled over and let the EU push her around. It should have been handled very differently | |||
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