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over a year ago
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"It seems Boris is set to reverse Cameron-clegg reforms to the NHS this could be intresting.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55960355"
Very interesting. Thanks for sharing.
Something to keep an eye on. |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke |
To be frank it really does need to change.
Slimming down bureaucracy has to be the first order.
And the Integrated Care System needs to work properly.
The NHS has been a mess for one reason or another under every colour of governance since its inception.
The problem is that more often than not reform bring a new mess with it. |
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"Well apparently the left saw it a means at the time because of the introduction of competitive tendering which was seen as a vehicle for private companies to undermine the NHS.  "
If, by "the left" you mean the Blair government; it wasn't. It (and he) was Tory-lite all the way; and PPI couldn't have been less of a left wing policy if it tried.
That said, it's good that - yet again - Boris and his government are in favour of left wing policy.
Borrowing shitloads of money, the furlough scheme, putting human life before profit - all very non-Tory. Maybe there's hope for them yet?
Despite farting about so badly that they're directly responsible for at least 50,000 deaths; and trying to gloss over it with the fact they got the vaccine issue right.
They could go even further by telling the likes of Graham Brady and Rees-Mogg to go and fuck themselves; then appoint competent ministers to replace Raab, Patel, Hancock and Williamson.
Still, baby steps, eh? Better than nothing.  |
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"Well apparently the left saw it a means at the time because of the introduction of competitive tendering which was seen as a vehicle for private companies to undermine the NHS.
If, by "the left" you mean the Blair government; it wasn't. It (and he) was Tory-lite all the way; and PPI couldn't have been less of a left wing policy if it tried.
That said, it's good that - yet again - Boris and his government are in favour of left wing policy.
Borrowing shitloads of money, the furlough scheme, putting human life before profit - all very non-Tory. Maybe there's hope for them yet?
Despite farting about so badly that they're directly responsible for at least 50,000 deaths; and trying to gloss over it with the fact they got the vaccine issue right.
They could go even further by telling the likes of Graham Brady and Rees-Mogg to go and fuck themselves; then appoint competent ministers to replace Raab, Patel, Hancock and Williamson.
Still, baby steps, eh? Better than nothing. "
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"Well apparently the left saw it a means at the time because of the introduction of competitive tendering which was seen as a vehicle for private companies to undermine the NHS.
If, by "the left" you mean the Blair government; it wasn't. It (and he) was Tory-lite all the way; and PPI couldn't have been less of a left wing policy if it tried.
That said, it's good that - yet again - Boris and his government are in favour of left wing policy.
Borrowing shitloads of money, the furlough scheme, putting human life before profit - all very non-Tory. Maybe there's hope for them yet?
Despite farting about so badly that they're directly responsible for at least 50,000 deaths; and trying to gloss over it with the fact they got the vaccine issue right.
They could go even further by telling the likes of Graham Brady and Rees-Mogg to go and fuck themselves; then appoint competent ministers to replace Raab, Patel, Hancock and Williamson.
Still, baby steps, eh? Better than nothing. "
Believing Tony Blair to be left wing says it all tbh. |
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By *renzMan
over a year ago
Between Chichester and Havant |
The NHS needs a good sort out from top to bottom, it's a big black hole for money. Unfortunately no government of any shade will try to do so, because they know they will be criticised from all sides. It's now a sacred cow. It needs someone brave to do something about it. No one ever will.
However the staff are having to do an amazing job at present and come in for no criticism from me, but once this, if this pandemic is ever over the NHS needs something other than just money thrown at it.
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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago
Manchester |
"The NHS needs a good sort out from top to bottom, it's a big black hole for money. Unfortunately no government of any shade will try to do so, because they know they will be criticised from all sides. It's now a sacred cow. It needs someone brave to do something about it. No one ever will.
However the staff are having to do an amazing job at present and come in for no criticism from me, but once this, if this pandemic is ever over the NHS needs something other than just money thrown at it.
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I agree it’s a poisoned chalice but needs doing. Can’t blame the front end staff whether they work hard or not. Some do some don’t.
The money pit is totally mismanaged from the top. Too many Directors too many managers managing each other and an IT system that after years of trying still isn’t fit enough.
One front line staff member to one admin. No sane business could survive that ratio. Even two to one would save hundreds of millions.
Give the CQC business experts to have the power to restructure and cut waste.
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By *ostafun OP Man
over a year ago
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"Well apparently the left saw it a means at the time because of the introduction of competitive tendering which was seen as a vehicle for private companies to undermine the NHS.
If, by "the left" you mean the Blair government; it wasn't. It (and he) was Tory-lite all the way; and PPI couldn't have been less of a left wing policy if it tried.
That said, it's good that - yet again - Boris and his government are in favour of left wing policy.
Borrowing shitloads of money, the furlough scheme, putting human life before profit - all very non-Tory. Maybe there's hope for them yet?
Despite farting about so badly that they're directly responsible for at least 50,000 deaths; and trying to gloss over it with the fact they got the vaccine issue right.
They could go even further by telling the likes of Graham Brady and Rees-Mogg to go and fuck themselves; then appoint competent ministers to replace Raab, Patel, Hancock and Williamson.
Still, baby steps, eh? Better than nothing. "
Blair had left by then brown resigned after the election and milliband was opposition leader so start by getting your facts right first.  |
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"Well apparently the left saw it a means at the time because of the introduction of competitive tendering which was seen as a vehicle for private companies to undermine the NHS.
If, by "the left" you mean the Blair government; it wasn't. It (and he) was Tory-lite all the way; and PPI couldn't have been less of a left wing policy if it tried.
That said, it's good that - yet again - Boris and his government are in favour of left wing policy.
Borrowing shitloads of money, the furlough scheme, putting human life before profit - all very non-Tory. Maybe there's hope for them yet?
Despite farting about so badly that they're directly responsible for at least 50,000 deaths; and trying to gloss over it with the fact they got the vaccine issue right.
They could go even further by telling the likes of Graham Brady and Rees-Mogg to go and fuck themselves; then appoint competent ministers to replace Raab, Patel, Hancock and Williamson.
Still, baby steps, eh? Better than nothing.
Believing Tony Blair to be left wing says it all tbh."
Tony Blair was left of centre on some policy but overall he was very central, you can’t say the tax grab & demolishing of the final salary pension scheme for the millions of ordinary private sector works to give out in tax credits wasn’t anything but socialist. But he knew if he was to gain power he had to win centre ground. It’s just a shame we ended up with Blair & not the late John Smith, now that was a great loss to British politics x |
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it seems doubtless that many nhs experts will feel they have something to say about the workings of the NHS without ever actually having worked in the NHS. not least of all the ex-computer software salesman and housing economist that is in charge of health currently. |
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As with most things with boris Johnson.. the reality is slightly different to the headlines.
The draft specifically states there will no changes to the procurement of non clinical services.
There is stuff about integrated care systems being opened up which means more private investment (most notable American it firms)
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"As with most things with boris Johnson.. the reality is slightly different to the headlines.
The draft specifically states there will no changes to the procurement of non clinical services.
There is stuff about integrated care systems being opened up which means more private investment (most notable American it firms)
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Can you link is to this draft? Be interesting to read. |
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"As with most things with boris Johnson.. the reality is slightly different to the headlines.
The draft specifically states there will no changes to the procurement of non clinical services.
There is stuff about integrated care systems being opened up which means more private investment (most notable American it firms)
Can you link is to this draft? Be interesting to read."
It's on the keep our NHS public website |
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"As with most things with boris Johnson.. the reality is slightly different to the headlines.
The draft specifically states there will no changes to the procurement of non clinical services.
There is stuff about integrated care systems being opened up which means more private investment (most notable American it firms)
Can you link is to this draft? Be interesting to read.
It's on the keep our NHS public website "
There is no draft there. |
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"As with most things with boris Johnson.. the reality is slightly different to the headlines.
The draft specifically states there will no changes to the procurement of non clinical services.
There is stuff about integrated care systems being opened up which means more private investment (most notable American it firms)
Can you link is to this draft? Be interesting to read.
It's on the keep our NHS public website
There is no draft there."
I'll see it I can copy and paste the article.
It was on there last night. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"As with most things with boris Johnson.. the reality is slightly different to the headlines.
The draft specifically states there will no changes to the procurement of non clinical services.
There is stuff about integrated care systems being opened up which means more private investment (most notable American it firms)
Can you link is to this draft? Be interesting to read.
It's on the keep our NHS public website
There is no draft there.
I'll see it I can copy and paste the article.
It was on there last night."
I found the article but that's no a draft. I was hoping to see the actual document |
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"As with most things with boris Johnson.. the reality is slightly different to the headlines.
The draft specifically states there will no changes to the procurement of non clinical services.
There is stuff about integrated care systems being opened up which means more private investment (most notable American it firms)
Can you link is to this draft? Be interesting to read.
It's on the keep our NHS public website
There is no draft there.
I'll see it I can copy and paste the article.
It was on there last night.
I found the article but that's no a draft. I was hoping to see the actual document "
The full document I found another forum
I was reading it last night but on the link today its saying page not found.
Not sure if they have took it down or some sort of technical issue. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"As with most things with boris Johnson.. the reality is slightly different to the headlines.
The draft specifically states there will no changes to the procurement of non clinical services.
There is stuff about integrated care systems being opened up which means more private investment (most notable American it firms)
Can you link is to this draft? Be interesting to read.
It's on the keep our NHS public website
There is no draft there.
I'll see it I can copy and paste the article.
It was on there last night.
I found the article but that's no a draft. I was hoping to see the actual document
The full document I found another forum
I was reading it last night but on the link today its saying page not found.
Not sure if they have took it down or some sort of technical issue."
No probs. Cheers for looking anyway |
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"The NHS needs a good sort out from top to bottom, it's a big black hole for money. Unfortunately no government of any shade will try to do so, because they know they will be criticised from all sides. It's now a sacred cow. It needs someone brave to do something about it. No one ever will.
However the staff are having to do an amazing job at present and come in for no criticism from me, but once this, if this pandemic is ever over the NHS needs something other than just money thrown at it.
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Completely agree, but the measure and the political debate for all public services is always how much money is spent not the output.
If one trust spends 20p on nitrile gloves and another trust spends 10p, (they do), the trust spending 20p is doing better... cos they’re spending more..... |
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