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It's nearly 9am and we haven't had a single "is this a Brexit benefit" thread to josh about this morning.
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By *ild_oatsMan
over a year ago
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"It's nearly 9am and we haven't had a single "is this a Brexit benefit" thread to josh about this morning.
Has the debate finished then? Are we all on the same page looking forwards to a prosperous future? Great "
How about this as a Brexit benefit
Pages of paperwork to export 1 lorry load of fish
It works out like this.
Catch certification - 27 pages per lorry
Customs agent paperwork - 2 pages per lorry.
Export certificates - 20 pages per lorry plus vet visit and approval.
Statements of value and invoices - 22 pages
Plus the driver extra steps of customs declarations and board control chech.
Yes the brexit benefit all the people now employed to carry out this administration.
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"It's nearly 9am and we haven't had a single "is this a Brexit benefit" thread to josh about this morning.
Has the debate finished then? Are we all on the same page looking forwards to a prosperous future? Great "
What are you worried about Chris? |
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"It's nearly 9am and we haven't had a single "is this a Brexit benefit" thread to josh about this morning.
Has the debate finished then? Are we all on the same page looking forwards to a prosperous future? Great
How about this as a Brexit benefit
Pages of paperwork to export 1 lorry load of fish
It works out like this.
Catch certification - 27 pages per lorry
Customs agent paperwork - 2 pages per lorry.
Export certificates - 20 pages per lorry plus vet visit and approval.
Statements of value and invoices - 22 pages
Plus the driver extra steps of customs declarations and board control chech.
Yes the brexit benefit all the people now employed to carry out this administration.
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Pretty sure environmental health certifies consignments, don't think highly qualified vets are that interested in looking at dead fish. And I think some tracking paperwork is necessary from an h+s point of view so customers aren't poisoned.
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"It's nearly 9am and we haven't had a single "is this a Brexit benefit" thread to josh about this morning.
Has the debate finished then? Are we all on the same page looking forwards to a prosperous future? Great
What are you worried about Chris? "
I'm worried that some people thrive on negativity and if there's not enough to be negative about they might get despondent  |
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"It's nearly 9am and we haven't had a single "is this a Brexit benefit" thread to josh about this morning.
Has the debate finished then? Are we all on the same page looking forwards to a prosperous future? Great
What are you worried about Chris?
I'm worried that some people thrive on negativity and if there's not enough to be negative about they might get despondent "
That is very thoughtful of you but unnecessary, you stick to celebrating tiny fluctuations in the strength of the pound  |
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By *ild_oatsMan
over a year ago
the land of saints & sinners |
"It's nearly 9am and we haven't had a single "is this a Brexit benefit" thread to josh about this morning.
Has the debate finished then? Are we all on the same page looking forwards to a prosperous future? Great
How about this as a Brexit benefit
Pages of paperwork to export 1 lorry load of fish
It works out like this.
Catch certification - 27 pages per lorry
Customs agent paperwork - 2 pages per lorry.
Export certificates - 20 pages per lorry plus vet visit and approval.
Statements of value and invoices - 22 pages
Plus the driver extra steps of customs declarations and board control chech.
Yes the brexit benefit all the people now employed to carry out this administration.
Pretty sure environmental health certifies consignments, don't think highly qualified vets are that interested in looking at dead fish. And I think some tracking paperwork is necessary from an h+s point of view so customers aren't poisoned.
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What you think is irrelevant - these are now the requirements.
The vet has to watch the lorry being loaded and sealed.
Some of it was already there from a H&S perspective but only amounted to a one or two pages at most plus an invoice.
But the paperwork requirements have exploded.
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"Thank god we are shut of the eu and their pesky red tape
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55887043"
Most of that paperwork sounds eminently sensible to me to allow tracing of product in case of problems. I'm a bit horrified that within the EU apparently untraceable food is flowing freely (Findus horsemeat for example). |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"£1.2 billion trade deal signed with Ghana. Its all adding up.
Ghana? yep.
This deal must be much better than the one we already had? "
no idea not seen the details. duty free and quota free whats not to like? |
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"£1.2 billion trade deal signed with Ghana. Its all adding up.
Ghana? yep.
This deal must be much better than the one we already had? no idea not seen the details. duty free and quota free whats not to like?"
I just had a quick look, it’s a rollover deal, exactly the same as what we had with the EU? Is this a cause to celebrate ? I will get the lobsters out again |
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By *ild_oatsMan
over a year ago
the land of saints & sinners |
"Thank god we are shut of the eu and their pesky red tape
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55887043
Most of that paperwork sounds eminently sensible to me to allow tracing of product in case of problems. I'm a bit horrified that within the EU apparently untraceable food is flowing freely (Findus horsemeat for example). "
Rules of origin and traceability were already in existence prior to Brexit.
Clearly as a lobster party expert you knew about this already. |
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"£1.2 billion trade deal signed with Ghana. Its all adding up.
Ghana? yep.
This deal must be much better than the one we already had? "
It's an interim deal which is the same as we had in the EU.
So although not a brexit benefit. It's not yet, a brexit loss.
Wild celebrations.  |
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"£1.2 billion trade deal signed with Ghana. Its all adding up.
Ghana? yep.
This deal must be much better than the one we already had? "
Yep duty free and quota free and reduced tariffs. Great stuff. |
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"£1.2 billion trade deal signed with Ghana. Its all adding up.
Ghana? yep.
This deal must be much better than the one we already had?
Yep duty free and quota free and reduced tariffs. Great stuff. "
It is exactly the same Chris, the emotion you are feeling right now is relief, not joy |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"£1.2 billion trade deal signed with Ghana. Its all adding up.
Ghana? yep.
This deal must be much better than the one we already had? no idea not seen the details. duty free and quota free whats not to like?
I just had a quick look, it’s a rollover deal, exactly the same as what we had with the EU? Is this a cause to celebrate ? I will get the lobsters out again "
Wrong this is a tariff free deal.The EPA is a development-oriented free trade agreement. Under it, the EU provides duty-free, quota- free access for Ghana's exports to the EU from the first day of application. For its part side, Ghana will progressively reduce its tariffs to zero for 78% of its imports from the EU by 2029. 
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"£1.2 billion trade deal signed with Ghana. Its all adding up.
Ghana? yep.
This deal must be much better than the one we already had? no idea not seen the details. duty free and quota free whats not to like?
I just had a quick look, it’s a rollover deal, exactly the same as what we had with the EU? Is this a cause to celebrate ? I will get the lobsters out again Wrong this is a tariff free deal.The EPA is a development-oriented free trade agreement. Under it, the EU provides duty-free, quota- free access for Ghana's exports to the EU from the first day of application. For its part side, Ghana will progressively reduce its tariffs to zero for 78% of its imports from the EU by 2029.
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It is the exact same deal, btw, Ghana |
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"£1.2 billion trade deal signed with Ghana. Its all adding up.
Ghana? yep.
This deal must be much better than the one we already had? no idea not seen the details. duty free and quota free whats not to like?
I just had a quick look, it’s a rollover deal, exactly the same as what we had with the EU? Is this a cause to celebrate ? I will get the lobsters out again Wrong this is a tariff free deal.The EPA is a development-oriented free trade agreement. Under it, the EU provides duty-free, quota- free access for Ghana's exports to the EU from the first day of application. For its part side, Ghana will progressively reduce its tariffs to zero for 78% of its imports from the EU by 2029.
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Btw, are you happy with the UK doing a deal with Ghana due to their appalling human rights record? |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"£1.2 billion trade deal signed with Ghana. Its all adding up.
Ghana? yep.
This deal must be much better than the one we already had? no idea not seen the details. duty free and quota free whats not to like?
I just had a quick look, it’s a rollover deal, exactly the same as what we had with the EU? Is this a cause to celebrate ? I will get the lobsters out again Wrong this is a tariff free deal.The EPA is a development-oriented free trade agreement. Under it, the EU provides duty-free, quota- free access for Ghana's exports to the EU from the first day of application. For its part side, Ghana will progressively reduce its tariffs to zero for 78% of its imports from the EU by 2029.
It is the exact same deal, btw, Ghana "
How is it exactly the same deal when there are no tariffs on exports to Ghana from the uk but are from the eu as it stands? |
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"£1.2 billion trade deal signed with Ghana. Its all adding up.
Ghana? yep.
This deal must be much better than the one we already had? no idea not seen the details. duty free and quota free whats not to like?
I just had a quick look, it’s a rollover deal, exactly the same as what we had with the EU? Is this a cause to celebrate ? I will get the lobsters out again Wrong this is a tariff free deal.The EPA is a development-oriented free trade agreement. Under it, the EU provides duty-free, quota- free access for Ghana's exports to the EU from the first day of application. For its part side, Ghana will progressively reduce its tariffs to zero for 78% of its imports from the EU by 2029.
Btw, are you happy with the UK doing a deal with Ghana due to their appalling human rights record? "
are you happy with the deal ? |
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"£1.2 billion trade deal signed with Ghana. Its all adding up.
Ghana? yep.
This deal must be much better than the one we already had? no idea not seen the details. duty free and quota free whats not to like?
I just had a quick look, it’s a rollover deal, exactly the same as what we had with the EU? Is this a cause to celebrate ? I will get the lobsters out again Wrong this is a tariff free deal.The EPA is a development-oriented free trade agreement. Under it, the EU provides duty-free, quota- free access for Ghana's exports to the EU from the first day of application. For its part side, Ghana will progressively reduce its tariffs to zero for 78% of its imports from the EU by 2029.
It is the exact same deal, btw, Ghana How is it exactly the same deal when there are no tariffs on exports to Ghana from the uk but are from the eu as it stands? "
Potential tariff reductions is that the trade deal says between the UK and Ghana.
It's an interim deal.
Same as what we had in the EU. |
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"£1.2 billion trade deal signed with Ghana. Its all adding up.
Ghana? yep.
This deal must be much better than the one we already had? no idea not seen the details. duty free and quota free whats not to like?
I just had a quick look, it’s a rollover deal, exactly the same as what we had with the EU? Is this a cause to celebrate ? I will get the lobsters out again Wrong this is a tariff free deal.The EPA is a development-oriented free trade agreement. Under it, the EU provides duty-free, quota- free access for Ghana's exports to the EU from the first day of application. For its part side, Ghana will progressively reduce its tariffs to zero for 78% of its imports from the EU by 2029.
It is the exact same deal, btw, Ghana How is it exactly the same deal when there are no tariffs on exports to Ghana from the uk but are from the eu as it stands?
Potential tariff reductions is that the trade deal says between the UK and Ghana.
It's an interim deal.
Same as what we had in the EU."
do not worse then |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"£1.2 billion trade deal signed with Ghana. Its all adding up.
Ghana? yep.
This deal must be much better than the one we already had? no idea not seen the details. duty free and quota free whats not to like?
I just had a quick look, it’s a rollover deal, exactly the same as what we had with the EU? Is this a cause to celebrate ? I will get the lobsters out again Wrong this is a tariff free deal.The EPA is a development-oriented free trade agreement. Under it, the EU provides duty-free, quota- free access for Ghana's exports to the EU from the first day of application. For its part side, Ghana will progressively reduce its tariffs to zero for 78% of its imports from the EU by 2029.
It is the exact same deal, btw, Ghana How is it exactly the same deal when there are no tariffs on exports to Ghana from the uk but are from the eu as it stands? "
As it stands? As you seem to have detailed knowledge of this deal how much extra will this be worthy to our economy? |
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By *ild_oatsMan
over a year ago
the land of saints & sinners |
"It's nearly 9am and we haven't had a single "is this a Brexit benefit" thread to josh about this morning.
Has the debate finished then? Are we all on the same page looking forwards to a prosperous future? Great
How about this as a Brexit benefit
Pages of paperwork to export 1 lorry load of fish
It works out like this.
Catch certification - 27 pages per lorry
Customs agent paperwork - 2 pages per lorry.
Export certificates - 20 pages per lorry plus vet visit and approval.
Statements of value and invoices - 22 pages
Plus the driver extra steps of customs declarations and board control chech.
Yes the brexit benefit all the people now employed to carry out this administration.
Pretty sure environmental health certifies consignments, don't think highly qualified vets are that interested in looking at dead fish. And I think some tracking paperwork is necessary from an h+s point of view so customers aren't poisoned.
What you think is irrelevant - these are now the requirements.
The vet has to watch the lorry being loaded and sealed.
Some of it was already there from a H&S perspective but only amounted to a one or two pages at most plus an invoice.
But the paperwork requirements have exploded.
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In addition I expected Vets are going to be jumping for joy over this new requirement.....
7 years at veterinary school just to watch a lorry being loaded with fish and then sealed..... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"£1.2 billion trade deal signed with Ghana. Its all adding up.
Ghana? yep.
This deal must be much better than the one we already had? no idea not seen the details. duty free and quota free whats not to like?
I just had a quick look, it’s a rollover deal, exactly the same as what we had with the EU? Is this a cause to celebrate ? I will get the lobsters out again Wrong this is a tariff free deal.The EPA is a development-oriented free trade agreement. Under it, the EU provides duty-free, quota- free access for Ghana's exports to the EU from the first day of application. For its part side, Ghana will progressively reduce its tariffs to zero for 78% of its imports from the EU by 2029.
It is the exact same deal, btw, Ghana How is it exactly the same deal when there are no tariffs on exports to Ghana from the uk but are from the eu as it stands?
Potential tariff reductions is that the trade deal says between the UK and Ghana.
It's an interim deal.
Same as what we had in the EU. do not worse then "
No, did we leave the EU to get better or the same trade deals as we had before? |
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"£1.2 billion trade deal signed with Ghana. Its all adding up.
Ghana? yep.
This deal must be much better than the one we already had? no idea not seen the details. duty free and quota free whats not to like?
I just had a quick look, it’s a rollover deal, exactly the same as what we had with the EU? Is this a cause to celebrate ? I will get the lobsters out again Wrong this is a tariff free deal.The EPA is a development-oriented free trade agreement. Under it, the EU provides duty-free, quota- free access for Ghana's exports to the EU from the first day of application. For its part side, Ghana will progressively reduce its tariffs to zero for 78% of its imports from the EU by 2029.
It is the exact same deal, btw, Ghana How is it exactly the same deal when there are no tariffs on exports to Ghana from the uk but are from the eu as it stands?
Potential tariff reductions is that the trade deal says between the UK and Ghana.
It's an interim deal.
Same as what we had in the EU. do not worse then "
Not yet.
This is one of the many trade deals that we did have. That we've managed to hold on to. For now.
Think of it as losing all your money. Then finding 10p in the bottom of your pocket. |
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"£1.2 billion trade deal signed with Ghana. Its all adding up.
Ghana? yep.
This deal must be much better than the one we already had? no idea not seen the details. duty free and quota free whats not to like?
I just had a quick look, it’s a rollover deal, exactly the same as what we had with the EU? Is this a cause to celebrate ? I will get the lobsters out again Wrong this is a tariff free deal.The EPA is a development-oriented free trade agreement. Under it, the EU provides duty-free, quota- free access for Ghana's exports to the EU from the first day of application. For its part side, Ghana will progressively reduce its tariffs to zero for 78% of its imports from the EU by 2029.
Btw, are you happy with the UK doing a deal with Ghana due to their appalling human rights record? are you happy with the deal ?"
I am ambiguous about it, I prefer to celebrate an improvement not a continuation of the same thing . |
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"£1.2 billion trade deal signed with Ghana. Its all adding up.
Ghana? yep.
This deal must be much better than the one we already had?
It's an interim deal which is the same as we had in the EU.
So although not a brexit benefit. It's not yet, a brexit loss.
Wild celebrations. "
No, as you well know the EU slaps tariffs on non EU products raising consumer prices artificially.
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"£1.2 billion trade deal signed with Ghana. Its all adding up.
Ghana? yep.
This deal must be much better than the one we already had? no idea not seen the details. duty free and quota free whats not to like?
I just had a quick look, it’s a rollover deal, exactly the same as what we had with the EU? Is this a cause to celebrate ? I will get the lobsters out again Wrong this is a tariff free deal.The EPA is a development-oriented free trade agreement. Under it, the EU provides duty-free, quota- free access for Ghana's exports to the EU from the first day of application. For its part side, Ghana will progressively reduce its tariffs to zero for 78% of its imports from the EU by 2029.
Btw, are you happy with the UK doing a deal with Ghana due to their appalling human rights record? "
Has it ? you not happy increasing jobs and the wealth of african countries ?
Personally i would like to see more deals with these smaller African nations creating jobs and wealth to the countries rather than just charity and help bring them into the 21st century but hey ho i guess you are happy just making french farmers even more wealthy.
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"£1.2 billion trade deal signed with Ghana. Its all adding up.
Ghana? yep.
This deal must be much better than the one we already had?
It's an interim deal which is the same as we had in the EU.
So although not a brexit benefit. It's not yet, a brexit loss.
Wild celebrations.
No, as you well know the EU slaps tariffs on non EU products raising consumer prices artificially.
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This trade deal currently has the same tariffs.
I'm happy that you're happy. But the reality is, we have held onto one deal that we did have before. |
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"£1.2 billion trade deal signed with Ghana. Its all adding up.
Ghana? yep.
This deal must be much better than the one we already had? no idea not seen the details. duty free and quota free whats not to like?
I just had a quick look, it’s a rollover deal, exactly the same as what we had with the EU? Is this a cause to celebrate ? I will get the lobsters out again Wrong this is a tariff free deal.The EPA is a development-oriented free trade agreement. Under it, the EU provides duty-free, quota- free access for Ghana's exports to the EU from the first day of application. For its part side, Ghana will progressively reduce its tariffs to zero for 78% of its imports from the EU by 2029.
Btw, are you happy with the UK doing a deal with Ghana due to their appalling human rights record? are you happy with the deal ?
I am ambiguous about it, I prefer to celebrate an improvement not a continuation of the same thing . "
you mention there human rights where you not worried about there human rights before then ? |
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"It's nearly 9am and we haven't had a single "is this a Brexit benefit" thread to josh about this morning.
Has the debate finished then? Are we all on the same page looking forwards to a prosperous future? Great
How about this as a Brexit benefit
Pages of paperwork to export 1 lorry load of fish
It works out like this.
Catch certification - 27 pages per lorry
Customs agent paperwork - 2 pages per lorry.
Export certificates - 20 pages per lorry plus vet visit and approval.
Statements of value and invoices - 22 pages
Plus the driver extra steps of customs declarations and board control chech.
Yes the brexit benefit all the people now employed to carry out this administration.
Pretty sure environmental health certifies consignments, don't think highly qualified vets are that interested in looking at dead fish. And I think some tracking paperwork is necessary from an h+s point of view so customers aren't poisoned.
What you think is irrelevant - these are now the requirements.
The vet has to watch the lorry being loaded and sealed.
Some of it was already there from a H&S perspective but only amounted to a one or two pages at most plus an invoice.
But the paperwork requirements have exploded.
In addition I expected Vets are going to be jumping for joy over this new requirement.....
7 years at veterinary school just to watch a lorry being loaded with fish and then sealed....."
I've read the actual regulation this morning as I like to work off factual information and it clearly says health inspectors can do it. Your credibility is at stake with me when you exaggerate. |
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"£1.2 billion trade deal signed with Ghana. Its all adding up.
Ghana? yep.
This deal must be much better than the one we already had? no idea not seen the details. duty free and quota free whats not to like?
I just had a quick look, it’s a rollover deal, exactly the same as what we had with the EU? Is this a cause to celebrate ? I will get the lobsters out again Wrong this is a tariff free deal.The EPA is a development-oriented free trade agreement. Under it, the EU provides duty-free, quota- free access for Ghana's exports to the EU from the first day of application. For its part side, Ghana will progressively reduce its tariffs to zero for 78% of its imports from the EU by 2029.
Btw, are you happy with the UK doing a deal with Ghana due to their appalling human rights record? Has it ? you not happy increasing jobs and the wealth of african countries ?
Personally i would like to see more deals with these smaller African nations creating jobs and wealth to the countries rather than just charity and help bring them into the 21st century but hey ho i guess you are happy just making french farmers even more wealthy.
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Why? What new wealth and jobs are we creating in Ghana? They have a very corrupt government, the money will just line the people in power pockets |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"£1.2 billion trade deal signed with Ghana. Its all adding up.
Ghana? yep.
This deal must be much better than the one we already had?
It's an interim deal which is the same as we had in the EU.
So although not a brexit benefit. It's not yet, a brexit loss.
Wild celebrations.
No, as you well know the EU slaps tariffs on non EU products raising consumer prices artificially.
This trade deal currently has the same tariffs.
I'm happy that you're happy. But the reality is, we have held onto one deal that we did have before."
Where did you find that information? |
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"£1.2 billion trade deal signed with Ghana. Its all adding up.
Ghana? yep.
This deal must be much better than the one we already had? no idea not seen the details. duty free and quota free whats not to like?
I just had a quick look, it’s a rollover deal, exactly the same as what we had with the EU? Is this a cause to celebrate ? I will get the lobsters out again Wrong this is a tariff free deal.The EPA is a development-oriented free trade agreement. Under it, the EU provides duty-free, quota- free access for Ghana's exports to the EU from the first day of application. For its part side, Ghana will progressively reduce its tariffs to zero for 78% of its imports from the EU by 2029.
Btw, are you happy with the UK doing a deal with Ghana due to their appalling human rights record? are you happy with the deal ?
I am ambiguous about it, I prefer to celebrate an improvement not a continuation of the same thing . you mention there human rights where you not worried about there human rights before then ?"
Nope, I only mentioned human rights because Costa was criticising the EU for getting a trade deal with China |
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"£1.2 billion trade deal signed with Ghana. Its all adding up.
Ghana? yep.
This deal must be much better than the one we already had? no idea not seen the details. duty free and quota free whats not to like?
I just had a quick look, it’s a rollover deal, exactly the same as what we had with the EU? Is this a cause to celebrate ? I will get the lobsters out again Wrong this is a tariff free deal.The EPA is a development-oriented free trade agreement. Under it, the EU provides duty-free, quota- free access for Ghana's exports to the EU from the first day of application. For its part side, Ghana will progressively reduce its tariffs to zero for 78% of its imports from the EU by 2029.
Btw, are you happy with the UK doing a deal with Ghana due to their appalling human rights record? Has it ? you not happy increasing jobs and the wealth of african countries ?
Personally i would like to see more deals with these smaller African nations creating jobs and wealth to the countries rather than just charity and help bring them into the 21st century but hey ho i guess you are happy just making french farmers even more wealthy.
Why? What new wealth and jobs are we creating in Ghana? They have a very corrupt government, the money will just line the people in power pockets "
is t that the case woth there deal with the eu then ? |
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"£1.2 billion trade deal signed with Ghana. Its all adding up.
Ghana? yep.
This deal must be much better than the one we already had?
It's an interim deal which is the same as we had in the EU.
So although not a brexit benefit. It's not yet, a brexit loss.
Wild celebrations.
No, as you well know the EU slaps tariffs on non EU products raising consumer prices artificially.
This trade deal currently has the same tariffs.
I'm happy that you're happy. But the reality is, we have held onto one deal that we did have before.Where did you find that information?"
It's on the UK gov trade and Investment site.
"Today Ghana and the UK are pleased to announce that they have finalised negotiations on a new Interim Ghana-UK Trade Partnership Agreement. This Agreement will provide for duty free and quota free access for Ghana to the UK market and preferential tariff reductions for UK exporters to the Ghanaian market" |
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"£1.2 billion trade deal signed with Ghana. Its all adding up.
Ghana? yep.
This deal must be much better than the one we already had? no idea not seen the details. duty free and quota free whats not to like?
I just had a quick look, it’s a rollover deal, exactly the same as what we had with the EU? Is this a cause to celebrate ? I will get the lobsters out again Wrong this is a tariff free deal.The EPA is a development-oriented free trade agreement. Under it, the EU provides duty-free, quota- free access for Ghana's exports to the EU from the first day of application. For its part side, Ghana will progressively reduce its tariffs to zero for 78% of its imports from the EU by 2029.
Btw, are you happy with the UK doing a deal with Ghana due to their appalling human rights record? are you happy with the deal ?
I am ambiguous about it, I prefer to celebrate an improvement not a continuation of the same thing . you mention there human rights where you not worried about there human rights before then ?
Nope, I only mentioned human rights because Costa was criticising the EU for getting a trade deal with China "
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"£1.2 billion trade deal signed with Ghana. Its all adding up.
Ghana? yep.
This deal must be much better than the one we already had?
It's an interim deal which is the same as we had in the EU.
So although not a brexit benefit. It's not yet, a brexit loss.
Wild celebrations.
No, as you well know the EU slaps tariffs on non EU products raising consumer prices artificially.
This trade deal currently has the same tariffs.
I'm happy that you're happy. But the reality is, we have held onto one deal that we did have before.Where did you find that information?
It's on the UK gov trade and Investment site.
"Today Ghana and the UK are pleased to announce that they have finalised negotiations on a new Interim Ghana-UK Trade Partnership Agreement. This Agreement will provide for duty free and quota free access for Ghana to the UK market and preferential tariff reductions for UK exporters to the Ghanaian market""
yes found it and you are right i totally read it wrong. |
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"£1.2 billion trade deal signed with Ghana. Its all adding up.
Ghana? yep.
This deal must be much better than the one we already had? no idea not seen the details. duty free and quota free whats not to like?
I just had a quick look, it’s a rollover deal, exactly the same as what we had with the EU? Is this a cause to celebrate ? I will get the lobsters out again Wrong this is a tariff free deal.The EPA is a development-oriented free trade agreement. Under it, the EU provides duty-free, quota- free access for Ghana's exports to the EU from the first day of application. For its part side, Ghana will progressively reduce its tariffs to zero for 78% of its imports from the EU by 2029.
Btw, are you happy with the UK doing a deal with Ghana due to their appalling human rights record? are you happy with the deal ?
I am ambiguous about it, I prefer to celebrate an improvement not a continuation of the same thing . you mention there human rights where you not worried about there human rights before then ?
Nope, I only mentioned human rights because Costa was criticising the EU for getting a trade deal with China you seem to be ok with there human rights and lining to pockets of corrupt government officials if it’s the eu deal but not the U.K. but weird don’t you think mate ?"
Your missing my point, it was in response to the moral outrage when the EU signed a deal with China . |
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"£1.2 billion trade deal signed with Ghana. Its all adding up.
Ghana? yep.
This deal must be much better than the one we already had? no idea not seen the details. duty free and quota free whats not to like?
I just had a quick look, it’s a rollover deal, exactly the same as what we had with the EU? Is this a cause to celebrate ? I will get the lobsters out again Wrong this is a tariff free deal.The EPA is a development-oriented free trade agreement. Under it, the EU provides duty-free, quota- free access for Ghana's exports to the EU from the first day of application. For its part side, Ghana will progressively reduce its tariffs to zero for 78% of its imports from the EU by 2029.
Btw, are you happy with the UK doing a deal with Ghana due to their appalling human rights record? are you happy with the deal ?
I am ambiguous about it, I prefer to celebrate an improvement not a continuation of the same thing . you mention there human rights where you not worried about there human rights before then ?
Nope, I only mentioned human rights because Costa was criticising the EU for getting a trade deal with China you seem to be ok with there human rights and lining to pockets of corrupt government officials if it’s the eu deal but not the U.K. but weird don’t you think mate ?
Your missing my point, it was in response to the moral outrage when the EU signed a deal with China . "
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"£1.2 billion trade deal signed with Ghana. Its all adding up.
Ghana? yep.
This deal must be much better than the one we already had? no idea not seen the details. duty free and quota free whats not to like?
I just had a quick look, it’s a rollover deal, exactly the same as what we had with the EU? Is this a cause to celebrate ? I will get the lobsters out again Wrong this is a tariff free deal.The EPA is a development-oriented free trade agreement. Under it, the EU provides duty-free, quota- free access for Ghana's exports to the EU from the first day of application. For its part side, Ghana will progressively reduce its tariffs to zero for 78% of its imports from the EU by 2029.
Btw, are you happy with the UK doing a deal with Ghana due to their appalling human rights record? are you happy with the deal ?
I am ambiguous about it, I prefer to celebrate an improvement not a continuation of the same thing . you mention there human rights where you not worried about there human rights before then ?
Nope, I only mentioned human rights because Costa was criticising the EU for getting a trade deal with China "
What i actually said was that if countries chose only to trade with countries that they agreed with ethically there would be no trade.The labour party seems to think this is what we should do. |
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"£1.2 billion trade deal signed with Ghana. Its all adding up.
Ghana? yep.
This deal must be much better than the one we already had? no idea not seen the details. duty free and quota free whats not to like?
I just had a quick look, it’s a rollover deal, exactly the same as what we had with the EU? Is this a cause to celebrate ? I will get the lobsters out again Wrong this is a tariff free deal.The EPA is a development-oriented free trade agreement. Under it, the EU provides duty-free, quota- free access for Ghana's exports to the EU from the first day of application. For its part side, Ghana will progressively reduce its tariffs to zero for 78% of its imports from the EU by 2029.
Btw, are you happy with the UK doing a deal with Ghana due to their appalling human rights record? are you happy with the deal ?
I am ambiguous about it, I prefer to celebrate an improvement not a continuation of the same thing . you mention there human rights where you not worried about there human rights before then ?
Nope, I only mentioned human rights because Costa was criticising the EU for getting a trade deal with China you seem to be ok with there human rights and lining to pockets of corrupt government officials if it’s the eu deal but not the U.K. but weird don’t you think mate ?"
I think we're starting to see the benefits of our soft power that stem from the days of the British Empire territory of the Gold Coast, now Ghana. |
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"£1.2 billion trade deal signed with Ghana. Its all adding up.
Ghana? yep.
This deal must be much better than the one we already had? no idea not seen the details. duty free and quota free whats not to like?
I just had a quick look, it’s a rollover deal, exactly the same as what we had with the EU? Is this a cause to celebrate ? I will get the lobsters out again Wrong this is a tariff free deal.The EPA is a development-oriented free trade agreement. Under it, the EU provides duty-free, quota- free access for Ghana's exports to the EU from the first day of application. For its part side, Ghana will progressively reduce its tariffs to zero for 78% of its imports from the EU by 2029.
Btw, are you happy with the UK doing a deal with Ghana due to their appalling human rights record? are you happy with the deal ?
I am ambiguous about it, I prefer to celebrate an improvement not a continuation of the same thing . you mention there human rights where you not worried about there human rights before then ?
Nope, I only mentioned human rights because Costa was criticising the EU for getting a trade deal with China What i actually said was that if countries chose only to trade with countries that they agreed with ethically there would be no trade.The labour party seems to think this is what we should do. "
So Ghana is ok, China is not ok? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"£1.2 billion trade deal signed with Ghana. Its all adding up.
Ghana? yep.
This deal must be much better than the one we already had? no idea not seen the details. duty free and quota free whats not to like?
I just had a quick look, it’s a rollover deal, exactly the same as what we had with the EU? Is this a cause to celebrate ? I will get the lobsters out again Wrong this is a tariff free deal.The EPA is a development-oriented free trade agreement. Under it, the EU provides duty-free, quota- free access for Ghana's exports to the EU from the first day of application. For its part side, Ghana will progressively reduce its tariffs to zero for 78% of its imports from the EU by 2029.
Btw, are you happy with the UK doing a deal with Ghana due to their appalling human rights record? are you happy with the deal ?
I am ambiguous about it, I prefer to celebrate an improvement not a continuation of the same thing . you mention there human rights where you not worried about there human rights before then ?
Nope, I only mentioned human rights because Costa was criticising the EU for getting a trade deal with China you seem to be ok with there human rights and lining to pockets of corrupt government officials if it’s the eu deal but not the U.K. but weird don’t you think mate ?
I think we're starting to see the benefits of our soft power that stem from the days of the British Empire territory of the Gold Coast, now Ghana. "
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"£1.2 billion trade deal signed with Ghana. Its all adding up.
Ghana? yep.
This deal must be much better than the one we already had? no idea not seen the details. duty free and quota free whats not to like?
I just had a quick look, it’s a rollover deal, exactly the same as what we had with the EU? Is this a cause to celebrate ? I will get the lobsters out again Wrong this is a tariff free deal.The EPA is a development-oriented free trade agreement. Under it, the EU provides duty-free, quota- free access for Ghana's exports to the EU from the first day of application. For its part side, Ghana will progressively reduce its tariffs to zero for 78% of its imports from the EU by 2029.
Btw, are you happy with the UK doing a deal with Ghana due to their appalling human rights record? are you happy with the deal ?
I am ambiguous about it, I prefer to celebrate an improvement not a continuation of the same thing . you mention there human rights where you not worried about there human rights before then ?
Nope, I only mentioned human rights because Costa was criticising the EU for getting a trade deal with China What i actually said was that if countries chose only to trade with countries that they agreed with ethically there would be no trade.The labour party seems to think this is what we should do. "
I don’t think remainers have an argument against the U.K. doing deals with country’s the eu has deals with it just doesn’t make sense |
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over a year ago
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"£1.2 billion trade deal signed with Ghana. Its all adding up.
Ghana? yep.
This deal must be much better than the one we already had? no idea not seen the details. duty free and quota free whats not to like?
I just had a quick look, it’s a rollover deal, exactly the same as what we had with the EU? Is this a cause to celebrate ? I will get the lobsters out again Wrong this is a tariff free deal.The EPA is a development-oriented free trade agreement. Under it, the EU provides duty-free, quota- free access for Ghana's exports to the EU from the first day of application. For its part side, Ghana will progressively reduce its tariffs to zero for 78% of its imports from the EU by 2029.
Btw, are you happy with the UK doing a deal with Ghana due to their appalling human rights record? are you happy with the deal ?
I am ambiguous about it, I prefer to celebrate an improvement not a continuation of the same thing . you mention there human rights where you not worried about there human rights before then ?
Nope, I only mentioned human rights because Costa was criticising the EU for getting a trade deal with China you seem to be ok with there human rights and lining to pockets of corrupt government officials if it’s the eu deal but not the U.K. but weird don’t you think mate ?
Your missing my point, it was in response to the moral outrage when the EU signed a deal with China . ok bud I was just asking the question but can I ask do you not want the U.K. to do the deal or not based on human rights and corrupt governments ?"
Do the deal, just don’t be hypocritical about it |
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"£1.2 billion trade deal signed with Ghana. Its all adding up.
Ghana? yep.
This deal must be much better than the one we already had? no idea not seen the details. duty free and quota free whats not to like?
I just had a quick look, it’s a rollover deal, exactly the same as what we had with the EU? Is this a cause to celebrate ? I will get the lobsters out again Wrong this is a tariff free deal.The EPA is a development-oriented free trade agreement. Under it, the EU provides duty-free, quota- free access for Ghana's exports to the EU from the first day of application. For its part side, Ghana will progressively reduce its tariffs to zero for 78% of its imports from the EU by 2029.
Btw, are you happy with the UK doing a deal with Ghana due to their appalling human rights record? are you happy with the deal ?
I am ambiguous about it, I prefer to celebrate an improvement not a continuation of the same thing . you mention there human rights where you not worried about there human rights before then ?
Nope, I only mentioned human rights because Costa was criticising the EU for getting a trade deal with China you seem to be ok with there human rights and lining to pockets of corrupt government officials if it’s the eu deal but not the U.K. but weird don’t you think mate ?
Your missing my point, it was in response to the moral outrage when the EU signed a deal with China . ok bud I was just asking the question but can I ask do you not want the U.K. to do the deal or not based on human rights and corrupt governments ?
Do the deal, just don’t be hypocritical about it "
im not iv never called out the eu for doing deals |
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over a year ago
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"£1.2 billion trade deal signed with Ghana. Its all adding up.
Ghana? yep.
This deal must be much better than the one we already had? no idea not seen the details. duty free and quota free whats not to like?
I just had a quick look, it’s a rollover deal, exactly the same as what we had with the EU? Is this a cause to celebrate ? I will get the lobsters out again Wrong this is a tariff free deal.The EPA is a development-oriented free trade agreement. Under it, the EU provides duty-free, quota- free access for Ghana's exports to the EU from the first day of application. For its part side, Ghana will progressively reduce its tariffs to zero for 78% of its imports from the EU by 2029.
Btw, are you happy with the UK doing a deal with Ghana due to their appalling human rights record? are you happy with the deal ?
I am ambiguous about it, I prefer to celebrate an improvement not a continuation of the same thing . you mention there human rights where you not worried about there human rights before then ?
Nope, I only mentioned human rights because Costa was criticising the EU for getting a trade deal with China you seem to be ok with there human rights and lining to pockets of corrupt government officials if it’s the eu deal but not the U.K. but weird don’t you think mate ?
Your missing my point, it was in response to the moral outrage when the EU signed a deal with China . ok bud I was just asking the question but can I ask do you not want the U.K. to do the deal or not based on human rights and corrupt governments ?
Do the deal, just don’t be hypocritical about it im not iv never called out the eu for doing deals "
Lol, I didn’t mean you |
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By *ild_oatsMan
over a year ago
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"Still no new remainer whinges today, must all be going well then "
Well you clearly did not read the post from earlier
Or is that goldfish memory stuck in a lorry not being able to be exported.
Or just standing around like a vet watching lorries be loaded up with fish and being sealed. |
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"Still no new remainer whinges today, must all be going well then
This is below the quality of your normal trolling.
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Well you've got to give me something to work with here.
Go on, just have one little new whinge. Just a little one. Then we can have a josh |
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By *ild_oatsMan
over a year ago
the land of saints & sinners |
"Still no new remainer whinges today, must all be going well then
This is below the quality of your normal trolling.
Well you've got to give me something to work with here.
Go on, just have one little new whinge. Just a little one. Then we can have a josh "
How’s your currency predictions going.... |
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"Still no new remainer whinges today, must all be going well then
This is below the quality of your normal trolling.
Well you've got to give me something to work with here.
Go on, just have one little new whinge. Just a little one. Then we can have a josh "
Nah, let’s have another lobster party, it’s Friday after all , what Brexit benefits are we celebrating tonight |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Still no new remainer whinges today, must all be going well then
This is below the quality of your normal trolling.
Well you've got to give me something to work with here.
Go on, just have one little new whinge. Just a little one. Then we can have a josh
Nah, let’s have another lobster party, it’s Friday after all , what Brexit benefits are we celebrating tonight "
So far the celebration seems to be based on a static low value for the pound, and not losing a trade deal with Ghana. |
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over a year ago
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"Still no new remainer whinges today, must all be going well then
This is below the quality of your normal trolling.
Well you've got to give me something to work with here.
Go on, just have one little new whinge. Just a little one. Then we can have a josh
Nah, let’s have another lobster party, it’s Friday after all , what Brexit benefits are we celebrating tonight
So far the celebration seems to be based on a static low value for the pound, and not losing a trade deal with Ghana."
Well that is the type of good news that needs celebrating. |
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"Still no new remainer whinges today, must all be going well then
This is below the quality of your normal trolling.
Well you've got to give me something to work with here.
Go on, just have one little new whinge. Just a little one. Then we can have a josh
Nah, let’s have another lobster party, it’s Friday after all , what Brexit benefits are we celebrating tonight
So far the celebration seems to be based on a static low value for the pound, and not losing a trade deal with Ghana.
Well that is the type of good news that needs celebrating. "
Dont forget the fact we have spent 200 billion on Brexit itself and that’s still rising!!! got the divorce payment as well to add on. Hardly worth trade deals rolling over with no more benefit.
Image what the NHS would look like if we had spent that money on that instead.
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"but blue passports
Made in France "
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation  |
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"but blue passports
Made in France
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation "
Ha ha they did!
Where’s all your benefits gone?
Oh and the £350 mill per week to the NHS!
Oh man we good go on and on with this lol |
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"but blue passports
Made in France
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation "
Sorry, stand corrected
Britain's new passport was designed in France and made in Poland — Quartz.23 Feb 2020 |
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"but blue passports
Made in France
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation
Ha ha they did!
Where’s all your benefits gone?
Oh and the £350 mill per week to the NHS!
Oh man we good go on and on with this lol"
What you banging on about? I'm just calling out your 'facts'. Neither of those statements are true.
There is no way we will know how much is the UK is spending on Brexit.
And the passports are made in Poland.
If you wanna have a stab at 'Brexit Benefits' at least come with the correct information |
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"but blue passports
Made in France
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation
Ha ha they did!
Where’s all your benefits gone?
Oh and the £350 mill per week to the NHS!
Oh man we good go on and on with this lol
What you banging on about? I'm just calling out your 'facts'. Neither of those statements are true.
There is no way we will know how much is the UK is spending on Brexit.
And the passports are made in Poland.
If you wanna have a stab at 'Brexit Benefits' at least come with the correct information "
Before I show my source here’s a task. You check and tell me how much you think it is? |
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over a year ago
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"but blue passports
Made in France
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation
Ha ha they did!
Where’s all your benefits gone?
Oh and the £350 mill per week to the NHS!
Oh man we good go on and on with this lol
What you banging on about? I'm just calling out your 'facts'. Neither of those statements are true.
There is no way we will know how much is the UK is spending on Brexit.
And the passports are made in Poland.
If you wanna have a stab at 'Brexit Benefits' at least come with the correct information
Before I show my source here’s a task. You check and tell me how much you think it is? "
You're likely quoting a forecast from Bloomberg. However, that's not what has been spent. That's their estimate as to how much it's cost our economy. And I didn't even need to go and check |
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"but blue passports
Made in France
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation
Ha ha they did!
Where’s all your benefits gone?
Oh and the £350 mill per week to the NHS!
Oh man we good go on and on with this lol
What you banging on about? I'm just calling out your 'facts'. Neither of those statements are true.
There is no way we will know how much is the UK is spending on Brexit.
And the passports are made in Poland.
If you wanna have a stab at 'Brexit Benefits' at least come with the correct information "
No chance, it’s a common tactic to make some particularly outrageous claim and when corrected go “nana nee nana” ah well that’s still rubbish lol.
A lot of people have lost a lot of credibility with me doing this. |
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"but blue passports
Made in France
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation
Ha ha they did!
Where’s all your benefits gone?
Oh and the £350 mill per week to the NHS!
Oh man we good go on and on with this lol
What you banging on about? I'm just calling out your 'facts'. Neither of those statements are true.
There is no way we will know how much is the UK is spending on Brexit.
And the passports are made in Poland.
If you wanna have a stab at 'Brexit Benefits' at least come with the correct information
Before I show my source here’s a task. You check and tell me how much you think it is? "
I answered that earlier in the thread. We are plus 9 billion a year, and that’s an accounted figure not an estimate. Simple. |
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over a year ago
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"but blue passports
Made in France
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation
Ha ha they did!
Where’s all your benefits gone?
Oh and the £350 mill per week to the NHS!
Oh man we good go on and on with this lol
What you banging on about? I'm just calling out your 'facts'. Neither of those statements are true.
There is no way we will know how much is the UK is spending on Brexit.
And the passports are made in Poland.
If you wanna have a stab at 'Brexit Benefits' at least come with the correct information
Before I show my source here’s a task. You check and tell me how much you think it is?
I answered that earlier in the thread. We are plus 9 billion a year, and that’s an accounted figure not an estimate. Simple. "
Incorrect, we still pay the EU £5 billion a year, good effort though |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"but blue passports
Made in France
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation "
How much have the UK spent/lost due to Brexit since 2016? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"but blue passports
Made in France
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation
Ha ha they did!
Where’s all your benefits gone?
Oh and the £350 mill per week to the NHS!
Oh man we good go on and on with this lol
What you banging on about? I'm just calling out your 'facts'. Neither of those statements are true.
There is no way we will know how much is the UK is spending on Brexit.
And the passports are made in Poland.
If you wanna have a stab at 'Brexit Benefits' at least come with the correct information
Before I show my source here’s a task. You check and tell me how much you think it is?
I answered that earlier in the thread. We are plus 9 billion a year, and that’s an accounted figure not an estimate. Simple.
Incorrect, we still pay the EU £5 billion a year, good effort though "
Also incorrect, we will pay 18b over the next 5 years and then 7b before 2057.
Good try though |
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"but blue passports
Made in France
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation
How much have the UK spent/lost due to Brexit since 2016? "
There's no way to know. Everything that's available is an estimate. Who knows what would've happened if the vote went the other way |
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"but blue passports
Made in France
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation
Ha ha they did!
Where’s all your benefits gone?
Oh and the £350 mill per week to the NHS!
Oh man we good go on and on with this lol
What you banging on about? I'm just calling out your 'facts'. Neither of those statements are true.
There is no way we will know how much is the UK is spending on Brexit.
And the passports are made in Poland.
If you wanna have a stab at 'Brexit Benefits' at least come with the correct information
Before I show my source here’s a task. You check and tell me how much you think it is?
You're likely quoting a forecast from Bloomberg. However, that's not what has been spent. That's their estimate as to how much it's cost our economy. And I didn't even need to go and check"
Educate me, show me the source for your figures?
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over a year ago
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"but blue passports
Made in France
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation
Ha ha they did!
Where’s all your benefits gone?
Oh and the £350 mill per week to the NHS!
Oh man we good go on and on with this lol
What you banging on about? I'm just calling out your 'facts'. Neither of those statements are true.
There is no way we will know how much is the UK is spending on Brexit.
And the passports are made in Poland.
If you wanna have a stab at 'Brexit Benefits' at least come with the correct information
Before I show my source here’s a task. You check and tell me how much you think it is?
I answered that earlier in the thread. We are plus 9 billion a year, and that’s an accounted figure not an estimate. Simple.
Incorrect, we still pay the EU £5 billion a year, good effort though
Also incorrect, we will pay 18b over the next 5 years and then 7b before 2057.
Good try though "
Sorry, that will be £3.6 billion a year , |
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over a year ago
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"but blue passports
Made in France
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation
How much have the UK spent/lost due to Brexit since 2016?
There's no way to know. Everything that's available is an estimate. Who knows what would've happened if the vote went the other way "
Do we? How can you be sure what would have happened if we voted to remain? Why can’t the countries best economists estimate the cost of Brexit? |
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over a year ago
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"but blue passports
Made in France
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation
Ha ha they did!
Where’s all your benefits gone?
Oh and the £350 mill per week to the NHS!
Oh man we good go on and on with this lol
What you banging on about? I'm just calling out your 'facts'. Neither of those statements are true.
There is no way we will know how much is the UK is spending on Brexit.
And the passports are made in Poland.
If you wanna have a stab at 'Brexit Benefits' at least come with the correct information
Before I show my source here’s a task. You check and tell me how much you think it is?
You're likely quoting a forecast from Bloomberg. However, that's not what has been spent. That's their estimate as to how much it's cost our economy. And I didn't even need to go and check
Educate me, show me the source for your figures?
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I didn't give you any figures |
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over a year ago
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"but blue passports
Made in France
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation
How much have the UK spent/lost due to Brexit since 2016?
There's no way to know. Everything that's available is an estimate. Who knows what would've happened if the vote went the other way
Do we? How can you be sure what would have happened if we voted to remain? Why can’t the countries best economists estimate the cost of Brexit? "
I can't be sure. I just said that |
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over a year ago
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"but blue passports
Made in France
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation
How much have the UK spent/lost due to Brexit since 2016?
There's no way to know. Everything that's available is an estimate. Who knows what would've happened if the vote went the other way
Do we? How can you be sure what would have happened if we voted to remain? Why can’t the countries best economists estimate the cost of Brexit?
I can't be sure. I just said that "
Fair enough I miss read your reply . Who can we believe and trust when it comes to predicting the cost of Brexit? Boris? IMF? BOE? Economists? |
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"but blue passports
Made in France
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation
How much have the UK spent/lost due to Brexit since 2016?
There's no way to know. Everything that's available is an estimate. Who knows what would've happened if the vote went the other way
Do we? How can you be sure what would have happened if we voted to remain? Why can’t the countries best economists estimate the cost of Brexit?
I can't be sure. I just said that
Fair enough I miss read your reply . Who can we believe and trust when it comes to predicting the cost of Brexit? Boris? IMF? BOE? Economists? "
Personally I wouldn't trust any of them. We all know politicians lie and economists are very often wrong.
I'd prefer to ask why are we so bothered by the cost? We're not normally so obsessed by what the government spend on things. |
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over a year ago
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"but blue passports
Made in France
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation
How much have the UK spent/lost due to Brexit since 2016?
There's no way to know. Everything that's available is an estimate. Who knows what would've happened if the vote went the other way
Do we? How can you be sure what would have happened if we voted to remain? Why can’t the countries best economists estimate the cost of Brexit?
I can't be sure. I just said that
Fair enough I miss read your reply . Who can we believe and trust when it comes to predicting the cost of Brexit? Boris? IMF? BOE? Economists?
Personally I wouldn't trust any of them. We all know politicians lie and economists are very often wrong.
I'd prefer to ask why are we so bothered by the cost? We're not normally so obsessed by what the government spend on things. "
Ha, now I can see why you voted for Brexit. Ok, so the cost implications aren’t important, trade deals are irrelevant etc etc . Why did you vote to leave |
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over a year ago
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"but blue passports
Made in France
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation
How much have the UK spent/lost due to Brexit since 2016?
There's no way to know. Everything that's available is an estimate. Who knows what would've happened if the vote went the other way
Do we? How can you be sure what would have happened if we voted to remain? Why can’t the countries best economists estimate the cost of Brexit?
I can't be sure. I just said that
Fair enough I miss read your reply . Who can we believe and trust when it comes to predicting the cost of Brexit? Boris? IMF? BOE? Economists?
Personally I wouldn't trust any of them. We all know politicians lie and economists are very often wrong.
I'd prefer to ask why are we so bothered by the cost? We're not normally so obsessed by what the government spend on things.
Ha, now I can see why you voted for Brexit. Ok, so the cost implications aren’t important, trade deals are irrelevant etc etc . Why did you vote to leave "
Governments spend all sorts on a whole range of things that you have never even thought about. Why so obsessed with Brexit costs?
I have never said trade deals were irrelevant. We're getting into that territory again where you answer questions with your own questions? Usual tact of a remainer which doesn't interest me in the slightest. |
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over a year ago
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"but blue passports
Made in France
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation
How much have the UK spent/lost due to Brexit since 2016?
There's no way to know. Everything that's available is an estimate. Who knows what would've happened if the vote went the other way "
We would still be in the EU. And things would have been as they were instead of this clusterfuck. |
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over a year ago
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"but blue passports
Made in France
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation
How much have the UK spent/lost due to Brexit since 2016?
There's no way to know. Everything that's available is an estimate. Who knows what would've happened if the vote went the other way
Do we? How can you be sure what would have happened if we voted to remain? Why can’t the countries best economists estimate the cost of Brexit?
I can't be sure. I just said that
Fair enough I miss read your reply . Who can we believe and trust when it comes to predicting the cost of Brexit? Boris? IMF? BOE? Economists?
Personally I wouldn't trust any of them. We all know politicians lie and economists are very often wrong.
I'd prefer to ask why are we so bothered by the cost? We're not normally so obsessed by what the government spend on things.
Ha, now I can see why you voted for Brexit. Ok, so the cost implications aren’t important, trade deals are irrelevant etc etc . Why did you vote to leave "
Now you can see why I voted for Brexit? Why did I vote to leave? Or did i even vote to leave? |
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"but blue passports
Made in France
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation
How much have the UK spent/lost due to Brexit since 2016?
There's no way to know. Everything that's available is an estimate. Who knows what would've happened if the vote went the other way
We would still be in the EU. And things would have been as they were instead of this clusterfuck."
see there’s the problem with the U.K. too many people just can’t accept brexit and move on it’s ruining your lives dwelling on the negative it’s not good for any of you |
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over a year ago
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"but blue passports
Made in France
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation
How much have the UK spent/lost due to Brexit since 2016?
There's no way to know. Everything that's available is an estimate. Who knows what would've happened if the vote went the other way
We would still be in the EU. And things would have been as they were instead of this clusterfuck."
But over the last 10 years Glabal Finance have our GDP ahead of quite a lot of others inside the EU including Germany and France.
I mean, I'm not saying Brexit hasn't caused issues but finances isn't one of them. |
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"but blue passports
Made in France
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation
How much have the UK spent/lost due to Brexit since 2016?
There's no way to know. Everything that's available is an estimate. Who knows what would've happened if the vote went the other way
Do we? How can you be sure what would have happened if we voted to remain? Why can’t the countries best economists estimate the cost of Brexit?
I can't be sure. I just said that
Fair enough I miss read your reply . Who can we believe and trust when it comes to predicting the cost of Brexit? Boris? IMF? BOE? Economists?
Personally I wouldn't trust any of them. We all know politicians lie and economists are very often wrong.
I'd prefer to ask why are we so bothered by the cost? We're not normally so obsessed by what the government spend on things.
Ha, now I can see why you voted for Brexit. Ok, so the cost implications aren’t important, trade deals are irrelevant etc etc . Why did you vote to leave
Governments spend all sorts on a whole range of things that you have never even thought about. Why so obsessed with Brexit costs?
I have never said trade deals were irrelevant. We're getting into that territory again where you answer questions with your own questions? Usual tact of a remainer which doesn't interest me in the slightest."
Ah, so you don’t know why you voted to leave, I respect your honesty |
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over a year ago
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"but blue passports
Made in France
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation
How much have the UK spent/lost due to Brexit since 2016?
There's no way to know. Everything that's available is an estimate. Who knows what would've happened if the vote went the other way
We would still be in the EU. And things would have been as they were instead of this clusterfuck.see there’s the problem with the U.K. too many people just can’t accept brexit and move on it’s ruining your lives dwelling on the negative it’s not good for any of you "
People are highlighting the negatives because there aren’t any positives. Be totally honest , is Brexit turning out to be as you expected and hoped for ? |
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"but blue passports
Made in France
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation
How much have the UK spent/lost due to Brexit since 2016?
There's no way to know. Everything that's available is an estimate. Who knows what would've happened if the vote went the other way
We would still be in the EU. And things would have been as they were instead of this clusterfuck.see there’s the problem with the U.K. too many people just can’t accept brexit and move on it’s ruining your lives dwelling on the negative it’s not good for any of you
People are highlighting the negatives because there aren’t any positives. Be totally honest , is Brexit turning out to be as you expected and hoped for ? "
it probably is because I wasn’t stupid enough to think after just over a month it would be great iv told you plenty of times see where we are in a few yrs then atleast you have something to talk about now your turn you be honest wtf did you expect after a month really a month and don’t answer with a question |
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"but blue passports
Made in France
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation
How much have the UK spent/lost due to Brexit since 2016?
There's no way to know. Everything that's available is an estimate. Who knows what would've happened if the vote went the other way
We would still be in the EU. And things would have been as they were instead of this clusterfuck.see there’s the problem with the U.K. too many people just can’t accept brexit and move on it’s ruining your lives dwelling on the negative it’s not good for any of you
People are highlighting the negatives because there aren’t any positives. Be totally honest , is Brexit turning out to be as you expected and hoped for ? "
for me yes for others not but that's life |
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"but blue passports
Made in France
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation
How much have the UK spent/lost due to Brexit since 2016?
There's no way to know. Everything that's available is an estimate. Who knows what would've happened if the vote went the other way
We would still be in the EU. And things would have been as they were instead of this clusterfuck."
Well we wouldn’t have had any vaccines but heck we’d have had unity and solidarity and we could have listened to the taxpayer funded European Parliament orchestra.... if we survived Covid. |
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over a year ago
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"but blue passports
Made in France
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation
How much have the UK spent/lost due to Brexit since 2016?
There's no way to know. Everything that's available is an estimate. Who knows what would've happened if the vote went the other way
We would still be in the EU. And things would have been as they were instead of this clusterfuck.see there’s the problem with the U.K. too many people just can’t accept brexit and move on it’s ruining your lives dwelling on the negative it’s not good for any of you "
Ha ha it’s not about accepting it.... it’s trying to correct the shit this government has created.
I’m sure you will never accept you were lied to and that we will be paying for this for a generation! |
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"but blue passports
Made in France
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation
How much have the UK spent/lost due to Brexit since 2016?
There's no way to know. Everything that's available is an estimate. Who knows what would've happened if the vote went the other way
We would still be in the EU. And things would have been as they were instead of this clusterfuck.
Well we wouldn’t have had any vaccines but heck we’d have had unity and solidarity and we could have listened to the taxpayer funded European Parliament orchestra.... if we survived Covid."
Why wouldn’t we have had any vaccines? |
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over a year ago
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"but blue passports
Made in France
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation
Ha ha they did!
Where’s all your benefits gone?
Oh and the £350 mill per week to the NHS!
Oh man we good go on and on with this lol
What you banging on about? I'm just calling out your 'facts'. Neither of those statements are true.
There is no way we will know how much is the UK is spending on Brexit.
And the passports are made in Poland.
If you wanna have a stab at 'Brexit Benefits' at least come with the correct information
Before I show my source here’s a task. You check and tell me how much you think it is?
You're likely quoting a forecast from Bloomberg. However, that's not what has been spent. That's their estimate as to how much it's cost our economy. And I didn't even need to go and check
Educate me, show me the source for your figures?
I didn't give you any figures "
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"but blue passports
Made in France
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation
How much have the UK spent/lost due to Brexit since 2016?
There's no way to know. Everything that's available is an estimate. Who knows what would've happened if the vote went the other way
We would still be in the EU. And things would have been as they were instead of this clusterfuck.see there’s the problem with the U.K. too many people just can’t accept brexit and move on it’s ruining your lives dwelling on the negative it’s not good for any of you
People are highlighting the negatives because there aren’t any positives. Be totally honest , is Brexit turning out to be as you expected and hoped for ? for me yes for others not but that's life"
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"but blue passports
Made in France
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation
How much have the UK spent/lost due to Brexit since 2016?
There's no way to know. Everything that's available is an estimate. Who knows what would've happened if the vote went the other way
We would still be in the EU. And things would have been as they were instead of this clusterfuck.
But over the last 10 years Glabal Finance have our GDP ahead of quite a lot of others inside the EU including Germany and France.
I mean, I'm not saying Brexit hasn't caused issues but finances isn't one of them."
I think Rhys might said 50years lol
Can you show me that source? |
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"but blue passports
Made in France
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation
How much have the UK spent/lost due to Brexit since 2016?
There's no way to know. Everything that's available is an estimate. Who knows what would've happened if the vote went the other way
We would still be in the EU. And things would have been as they were instead of this clusterfuck.
But over the last 10 years Glabal Finance have our GDP ahead of quite a lot of others inside the EU including Germany and France.
I mean, I'm not saying Brexit hasn't caused issues but finances isn't one of them."
Fact check states the cost to the economy is now around £180B GDP in their words rising towards the £200b stated by Bloomberg, which kind of destroys the loss of finance argument you’re making. . Add to this the loss stated by Earnest and Young that the money already moved out of the U.K. banks to Europe has resulted in a “net tax loss” to the revenue of between £7 and £11B per year.
Then let’s add the as yet to be published billions in Customs costs to U.K. business.
Looks like a bit of financial impact to me.
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"but blue passports
Made in France
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation
How much have the UK spent/lost due to Brexit since 2016?
There's no way to know. Everything that's available is an estimate. Who knows what would've happened if the vote went the other way
We would still be in the EU. And things would have been as they were instead of this clusterfuck.
Well we wouldn’t have had any vaccines but heck we’d have had unity and solidarity and we could have listened to the taxpayer funded European Parliament orchestra.... if we survived Covid.
Why wouldn’t we have had any vaccines? "
Interesting statement, I would like to know why as well. |
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"but blue passports
Made in France
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation
How much have the UK spent/lost due to Brexit since 2016?
There's no way to know. Everything that's available is an estimate. Who knows what would've happened if the vote went the other way
We would still be in the EU. And things would have been as they were instead of this clusterfuck.
Well we wouldn’t have had any vaccines but heck we’d have had unity and solidarity and we could have listened to the taxpayer funded European Parliament orchestra.... if we survived Covid.
Why wouldn’t we have had any vaccines? "
you asked me a question amd to be honest and I did then you avoid mine lol typical |
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"but blue passports
Made in France
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation
How much have the UK spent/lost due to Brexit since 2016?
There's no way to know. Everything that's available is an estimate. Who knows what would've happened if the vote went the other way
We would still be in the EU. And things would have been as they were instead of this clusterfuck.
But over the last 10 years Glabal Finance have our GDP ahead of quite a lot of others inside the EU including Germany and France.
I mean, I'm not saying Brexit hasn't caused issues but finances isn't one of them.
Fact check states the cost to the economy is now around £180B GDP in their words rising towards the £200b stated by Bloomberg, which kind of destroys the loss of finance argument you’re making. . Add to this the loss stated by Earnest and Young that the money already moved out of the U.K. banks to Europe has resulted in a “net tax loss” to the revenue of between £7 and £11B per year.
Then let’s add the as yet to be published billions in Customs costs to U.K. business.
Looks like a bit of financial impact to me.
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I think your wasting your time on that site mate . They don’t do facts !
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"but blue passports
Made in France
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation
How much have the UK spent/lost due to Brexit since 2016?
There's no way to know. Everything that's available is an estimate. Who knows what would've happened if the vote went the other way
We would still be in the EU. And things would have been as they were instead of this clusterfuck.see there’s the problem with the U.K. too many people just can’t accept brexit and move on it’s ruining your lives dwelling on the negative it’s not good for any of you
Ha ha it’s not about accepting it.... it’s trying to correct the shit this government has created.
I’m sure you will never accept you were lied to and that we will be paying for this for a generation! "
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"but blue passports
Made in France
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation
How much have the UK spent/lost due to Brexit since 2016?
There's no way to know. Everything that's available is an estimate. Who knows what would've happened if the vote went the other way
We would still be in the EU. And things would have been as they were instead of this clusterfuck.
Well we wouldn’t have had any vaccines but heck we’d have had unity and solidarity and we could have listened to the taxpayer funded European Parliament orchestra.... if we survived Covid.
Why wouldn’t we have had any vaccines? you asked me a question amd to be honest and I did then you avoid mine lol typical "
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"but blue passports
Made in France
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation
How much have the UK spent/lost due to Brexit since 2016?
There's no way to know. Everything that's available is an estimate. Who knows what would've happened if the vote went the other way
We would still be in the EU. And things would have been as they were instead of this clusterfuck.see there’s the problem with the U.K. too many people just can’t accept brexit and move on it’s ruining your lives dwelling on the negative it’s not good for any of you
Ha ha it’s not about accepting it.... it’s trying to correct the shit this government has created.
I’m sure you will never accept you were lied to and that we will be paying for this for a generation! so tell us how are you going about trying to correct the shit ?"
Put it this way,
I think it be a lot easier then making Brexit work! |
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"but blue passports
Made in France
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation
How much have the UK spent/lost due to Brexit since 2016?
There's no way to know. Everything that's available is an estimate. Who knows what would've happened if the vote went the other way
We would still be in the EU. And things would have been as they were instead of this clusterfuck.see there’s the problem with the U.K. too many people just can’t accept brexit and move on it’s ruining your lives dwelling on the negative it’s not good for any of you
People are highlighting the negatives because there aren’t any positives. Be totally honest , is Brexit turning out to be as you expected and hoped for ? it probably is because I wasn’t stupid enough to think after just over a month it would be great iv told you plenty of times see where we are in a few yrs then atleast you have something to talk about now your turn you be honest wtf did you expect after a month really a month and don’t answer with a question "
We voted to leave in 2016, the fact it has taken 5 years is one of my issues, we haven’t got a good deal with the EU it is far worse than one we had and the extra red tape will cost billions on top of the £120 billion we have spent to get to this point, we keep signing trade deals that are the same as the ones we had, I could go on. I keep getting told that you can’t rely on forecast from banks, IMF, economists but you are telling me everything might be ok in 5-10 years despite all the experts staying the opposite . |
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"but blue passports
Made in France
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation
How much have the UK spent/lost due to Brexit since 2016?
There's no way to know. Everything that's available is an estimate. Who knows what would've happened if the vote went the other way
We would still be in the EU. And things would have been as they were instead of this clusterfuck.
Well we wouldn’t have had any vaccines but heck we’d have had unity and solidarity and we could have listened to the taxpayer funded European Parliament orchestra.... if we survived Covid.
Why wouldn’t we have had any vaccines? you asked me a question amd to be honest and I did then you avoid mine lol typical
Wanna answer it for me then?"
answer what I asked fabtastick |
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"but blue passports
Made in France
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation
How much have the UK spent/lost due to Brexit since 2016?
There's no way to know. Everything that's available is an estimate. Who knows what would've happened if the vote went the other way
We would still be in the EU. And things would have been as they were instead of this clusterfuck.
Well we wouldn’t have had any vaccines but heck we’d have had unity and solidarity and we could have listened to the taxpayer funded European Parliament orchestra.... if we survived Covid.
Why wouldn’t we have had any vaccines? you asked me a question amd to be honest and I did then you avoid mine lol typical
Wanna answer it for me then?"
Without question a remainer vote would have meant we’d have been in the European Medicines Agency as was confirmed this week as official Keri Starmer policy. |
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"but blue passports
Made in France
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation
How much have the UK spent/lost due to Brexit since 2016?
There's no way to know. Everything that's available is an estimate. Who knows what would've happened if the vote went the other way
We would still be in the EU. And things would have been as they were instead of this clusterfuck.
Well we wouldn’t have had any vaccines but heck we’d have had unity and solidarity and we could have listened to the taxpayer funded European Parliament orchestra.... if we survived Covid.
Why wouldn’t we have had any vaccines? you asked me a question amd to be honest and I did then you avoid mine lol typical "
The question wasn’t directed at you |
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"but blue passports
Made in France
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation
How much have the UK spent/lost due to Brexit since 2016?
There's no way to know. Everything that's available is an estimate. Who knows what would've happened if the vote went the other way
We would still be in the EU. And things would have been as they were instead of this clusterfuck.
But over the last 10 years Glabal Finance have our GDP ahead of quite a lot of others inside the EU including Germany and France.
I mean, I'm not saying Brexit hasn't caused issues but finances isn't one of them.
Fact check states the cost to the economy is now around £180B GDP in their words rising towards the £200b stated by Bloomberg, which kind of destroys the loss of finance argument you’re making. . Add to this the loss stated by Earnest and Young that the money already moved out of the U.K. banks to Europe has resulted in a “net tax loss” to the revenue of between £7 and £11B per year.
Then let’s add the as yet to be published billions in Customs costs to U.K. business.
Looks like a bit of financial impact to me.
"
If you check the UKs GDP against other countries in the EU as I syated above you'll see that we're ahead of the big players. Maybe we would've been further ahead if the vote was the other way round though, who knows. |
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It’s hysterical quoting Bloomberg estimates (not calculations) when Michael Bloomberg is one of the most rabid anti brexiteers and flip flops his political allegiances every few years depending how the wind is blowing. |
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"but blue passports
Made in France
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation
How much have the UK spent/lost due to Brexit since 2016?
There's no way to know. Everything that's available is an estimate. Who knows what would've happened if the vote went the other way
We would still be in the EU. And things would have been as they were instead of this clusterfuck.see there’s the problem with the U.K. too many people just can’t accept brexit and move on it’s ruining your lives dwelling on the negative it’s not good for any of you
People are highlighting the negatives because there aren’t any positives. Be totally honest , is Brexit turning out to be as you expected and hoped for ? it probably is because I wasn’t stupid enough to think after just over a month it would be great iv told you plenty of times see where we are in a few yrs then atleast you have something to talk about now your turn you be honest wtf did you expect after a month really a month and don’t answer with a question
We voted to leave in 2016, the fact it has taken 5 years is one of my issues, we haven’t got a good deal with the EU it is far worse than one we had and the extra red tape will cost billions on top of the £120 billion we have spent to get to this point, we keep signing trade deals that are the same as the ones we had, I could go on. I keep getting told that you can’t rely on forecast from banks, IMF, economists but you are telling me everything might be ok in 5-10 years despite all the experts staying the opposite . "
but yr asking for benefits a month in in the middle of a world pandemic I’d understand if it was a year or two in and I never said 5-10 yrs |
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"but blue passports
Made in France
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation
How much have the UK spent/lost due to Brexit since 2016?
There's no way to know. Everything that's available is an estimate. Who knows what would've happened if the vote went the other way
We would still be in the EU. And things would have been as they were instead of this clusterfuck.
Well we wouldn’t have had any vaccines but heck we’d have had unity and solidarity and we could have listened to the taxpayer funded European Parliament orchestra.... if we survived Covid.
Why wouldn’t we have had any vaccines? you asked me a question amd to be honest and I did then you avoid mine lol typical
Wanna answer it for me then?
Without question a remainer vote would have meant we’d have been in the European Medicines Agency as was confirmed this week as official Keri Starmer policy. "
No it wasn’t, you have just told another lie, and kier Starmer isn’t the PM so it is irrelevant. We have the best scientists in the world, a world beating vaccine on our doorstep , these are the reasons why we have an amazing vaccine programme and why we would have declined to join the EUs programme. Come on Chris, you must have faith in the empires with beating scientists |
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"but blue passports
Made in France
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation
How much have the UK spent/lost due to Brexit since 2016?
There's no way to know. Everything that's available is an estimate. Who knows what would've happened if the vote went the other way
We would still be in the EU. And things would have been as they were instead of this clusterfuck.see there’s the problem with the U.K. too many people just can’t accept brexit and move on it’s ruining your lives dwelling on the negative it’s not good for any of you
People are highlighting the negatives because there aren’t any positives. Be totally honest , is Brexit turning out to be as you expected and hoped for ? it probably is because I wasn’t stupid enough to think after just over a month it would be great iv told you plenty of times see where we are in a few yrs then atleast you have something to talk about now your turn you be honest wtf did you expect after a month really a month and don’t answer with a question
We voted to leave in 2016, the fact it has taken 5 years is one of my issues, we haven’t got a good deal with the EU it is far worse than one we had and the extra red tape will cost billions on top of the £120 billion we have spent to get to this point, we keep signing trade deals that are the same as the ones we had, I could go on. I keep getting told that you can’t rely on forecast from banks, IMF, economists but you are telling me everything might be ok in 5-10 years despite all the experts staying the opposite . but yr asking for benefits a month in in the middle of a world pandemic I’d understand if it was a year or two in and I never said 5-10 yrs "
Show me your forecast? Show me which experts are predicting Brexit will be a success? It is 5 years since we voted to leave and no offence mate but I won’t be taking any notice of what you are predicting when experts are predicting the opposite |
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"but blue passports
Made in France
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation
How much have the UK spent/lost due to Brexit since 2016?
There's no way to know. Everything that's available is an estimate. Who knows what would've happened if the vote went the other way
We would still be in the EU. And things would have been as they were instead of this clusterfuck.
Well we wouldn’t have had any vaccines but heck we’d have had unity and solidarity and we could have listened to the taxpayer funded European Parliament orchestra.... if we survived Covid.
Why wouldn’t we have had any vaccines? you asked me a question amd to be honest and I did then you avoid mine lol typical
Wanna answer it for me then?
Without question a remainer vote would have meant we’d have been in the European Medicines Agency as was confirmed this week as official Keri Starmer policy.
No it wasn’t, you have just told another lie, and kier Starmer isn’t the PM so it is irrelevant. We have the best scientists in the world, a world beating vaccine on our doorstep , these are the reasons why we have an amazing vaccine programme and why we would have declined to join the EUs programme. Come on Chris, you must have faith in the empires with beating scientists "
World beating |
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" . Come on Chris, you must have faith in the empires with beating scientists
Just a facetious point of order if I may? We don't have an Empire. We do have a Commonwealth. "
Sorry, but Chris thinks we have an empire |
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"but blue passports
Made in France
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation
How much have the UK spent/lost due to Brexit since 2016?
There's no way to know. Everything that's available is an estimate. Who knows what would've happened if the vote went the other way
We would still be in the EU. And things would have been as they were instead of this clusterfuck.
Well we wouldn’t have had any vaccines but heck we’d have had unity and solidarity and we could have listened to the taxpayer funded European Parliament orchestra.... if we survived Covid.
Why wouldn’t we have had any vaccines? you asked me a question amd to be honest and I did then you avoid mine lol typical
Wanna answer it for me then?
Without question a remainer vote would have meant we’d have been in the European Medicines Agency as was confirmed this week as official Keri Starmer policy.
No it wasn’t, you have just told another lie, and kier Starmer isn’t the PM so it is irrelevant. We have the best scientists in the world, a world beating vaccine on our doorstep , these are the reasons why we have an amazing vaccine programme and why we would have declined to join the EUs programme. Come on Chris, you must have faith in the empires with beating scientists "
No lies here. Media played clips of Starmer saying it on four different occasions in 2017, as you know. |
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"but blue passports
Made in France
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation
How much have the UK spent/lost due to Brexit since 2016?
There's no way to know. Everything that's available is an estimate. Who knows what would've happened if the vote went the other way
We would still be in the EU. And things would have been as they were instead of this clusterfuck.see there’s the problem with the U.K. too many people just can’t accept brexit and move on it’s ruining your lives dwelling on the negative it’s not good for any of you
People are highlighting the negatives because there aren’t any positives. Be totally honest , is Brexit turning out to be as you expected and hoped for ? it probably is because I wasn’t stupid enough to think after just over a month it would be great iv told you plenty of times see where we are in a few yrs then atleast you have something to talk about now your turn you be honest wtf did you expect after a month really a month and don’t answer with a question
We voted to leave in 2016, the fact it has taken 5 years is one of my issues, we haven’t got a good deal with the EU it is far worse than one we had and the extra red tape will cost billions on top of the £120 billion we have spent to get to this point, we keep signing trade deals that are the same as the ones we had, I could go on. I keep getting told that you can’t rely on forecast from banks, IMF, economists but you are telling me everything might be ok in 5-10 years despite all the experts staying the opposite . but yr asking for benefits a month in in the middle of a world pandemic I’d understand if it was a year or two in and I never said 5-10 yrs
Show me your forecast? Show me which experts are predicting Brexit will be a success? It is 5 years since we voted to leave and no offence mate but I won’t be taking any notice of what you are predicting when experts are predicting the opposite "
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"but blue passports
Made in France
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation
How much have the UK spent/lost due to Brexit since 2016?
There's no way to know. Everything that's available is an estimate. Who knows what would've happened if the vote went the other way
We would still be in the EU. And things would have been as they were instead of this clusterfuck.see there’s the problem with the U.K. too many people just can’t accept brexit and move on it’s ruining your lives dwelling on the negative it’s not good for any of you "
I don't really get this bury-your-head-in-the-sand and pretend everything is okay argument.
In my opinion, this is what's wrong with the UK. Too much apathy. |
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"but blue passports
Made in France
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation
How much have the UK spent/lost due to Brexit since 2016?
There's no way to know. Everything that's available is an estimate. Who knows what would've happened if the vote went the other way
We would still be in the EU. And things would have been as they were instead of this clusterfuck.
Well we wouldn’t have had any vaccines but heck we’d have had unity and solidarity and we could have listened to the taxpayer funded European Parliament orchestra.... if we survived Covid.
Why wouldn’t we have had any vaccines? you asked me a question amd to be honest and I did then you avoid mine lol typical
Wanna answer it for me then?
Without question a remainer vote would have meant we’d have been in the European Medicines Agency as was confirmed this week as official Keri Starmer policy.
No it wasn’t, you have just told another lie, and kier Starmer isn’t the PM so it is irrelevant. We have the best scientists in the world, a world beating vaccine on our doorstep , these are the reasons why we have an amazing vaccine programme and why we would have declined to join the EUs programme. Come on Chris, you must have faith in the empires with beating scientists
No lies here. Media played clips of Starmer saying it on four different occasions in 2017, as you know. "
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over a year ago
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"but blue passports
Made in France
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation
How much have the UK spent/lost due to Brexit since 2016?
There's no way to know. Everything that's available is an estimate. Who knows what would've happened if the vote went the other way
We would still be in the EU. And things would have been as they were instead of this clusterfuck.
But over the last 10 years Glabal Finance have our GDP ahead of quite a lot of others inside the EU including Germany and France.
I mean, I'm not saying Brexit hasn't caused issues but finances isn't one of them.
Fact check states the cost to the economy is now around £180B GDP in their words rising towards the £200b stated by Bloomberg, which kind of destroys the loss of finance argument you’re making. . Add to this the loss stated by Earnest and Young that the money already moved out of the U.K. banks to Europe has resulted in a “net tax loss” to the revenue of between £7 and £11B per year.
Then let’s add the as yet to be published billions in Customs costs to U.K. business.
Looks like a bit of financial impact to me.
If you check the UKs GDP against other countries in the EU as I syated above you'll see that we're ahead of the big players. Maybe we would've been further ahead if the vote was the other way round though, who knows."
I believe it’s Irrelevant point as to where we are to others . It’s not a race of GDPs it’s how is GB doing in reference to our own financial position in 2016 and it’s a fact we are very much worse off due to Brexit.
It’s not hard to calculate that from any point of reference you chose
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"but blue passports
Made in France
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation
How much have the UK spent/lost due to Brexit since 2016?
There's no way to know. Everything that's available is an estimate. Who knows what would've happened if the vote went the other way
We would still be in the EU. And things would have been as they were instead of this clusterfuck.
Well we wouldn’t have had any vaccines but heck we’d have had unity and solidarity and we could have listened to the taxpayer funded European Parliament orchestra.... if we survived Covid.
Why wouldn’t we have had any vaccines? you asked me a question amd to be honest and I did then you avoid mine lol typical
Wanna answer it for me then?
Without question a remainer vote would have meant we’d have been in the European Medicines Agency as was confirmed this week as official Keri Starmer policy.
No it wasn’t, you have just told another lie, and kier Starmer isn’t the PM so it is irrelevant. We have the best scientists in the world, a world beating vaccine on our doorstep , these are the reasons why we have an amazing vaccine programme and why we would have declined to join the EUs programme. Come on Chris, you must have faith in the empires with beating scientists "
The irony that is lost on you is that our vaccine programme came about because of the nepotistic appointment of the wife of a treasury minister to head the task force. Educational article for you here mate:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/nov/09/uk-vaccine-taskforce-chief-kate-bingham-expected-to-quit |
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"but blue passports
Made in France
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation
How much have the UK spent/lost due to Brexit since 2016?
There's no way to know. Everything that's available is an estimate. Who knows what would've happened if the vote went the other way
We would still be in the EU. And things would have been as they were instead of this clusterfuck.see there’s the problem with the U.K. too many people just can’t accept brexit and move on it’s ruining your lives dwelling on the negative it’s not good for any of you
People are highlighting the negatives because there aren’t any positives. Be totally honest , is Brexit turning out to be as you expected and hoped for ? it probably is because I wasn’t stupid enough to think after just over a month it would be great iv told you plenty of times see where we are in a few yrs then atleast you have something to talk about now your turn you be honest wtf did you expect after a month really a month and don’t answer with a question
We voted to leave in 2016, the fact it has taken 5 years is one of my issues, we haven’t got a good deal with the EU it is far worse than one we had and the extra red tape will cost billions on top of the £120 billion we have spent to get to this point, we keep signing trade deals that are the same as the ones we had, I could go on. I keep getting told that you can’t rely on forecast from banks, IMF, economists but you are telling me everything might be ok in 5-10 years despite all the experts staying the opposite . but yr asking for benefits a month in in the middle of a world pandemic I’d understand if it was a year or two in and I never said 5-10 yrs
Show me your forecast? Show me which experts are predicting Brexit will be a success? It is 5 years since we voted to leave and no offence mate but I won’t be taking any notice of what you are predicting when experts are predicting the opposite then why ask for me to show me my forecasts are you onit all ready a bit early isn’t it lol"
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"but blue passports
Made in France
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation
How much have the UK spent/lost due to Brexit since 2016?
There's no way to know. Everything that's available is an estimate. Who knows what would've happened if the vote went the other way
We would still be in the EU. And things would have been as they were instead of this clusterfuck.
Well we wouldn’t have had any vaccines but heck we’d have had unity and solidarity and we could have listened to the taxpayer funded European Parliament orchestra.... if we survived Covid.
Why wouldn’t we have had any vaccines? you asked me a question amd to be honest and I did then you avoid mine lol typical
Wanna answer it for me then?
Without question a remainer vote would have meant we’d have been in the European Medicines Agency as was confirmed this week as official Keri Starmer policy.
No it wasn’t, you have just told another lie, and kier Starmer isn’t the PM so it is irrelevant. We have the best scientists in the world, a world beating vaccine on our doorstep , these are the reasons why we have an amazing vaccine programme and why we would have declined to join the EUs programme. Come on Chris, you must have faith in the empires with beating scientists
The irony that is lost on you is that our vaccine programme came about because of the nepotistic appointment of the wife of a treasury minister to head the task force. Educational article for you here mate:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/nov/09/uk-vaccine-taskforce-chief-kate-bingham-expected-to-quit"
Nothing to do with K Starmer then? What is the point you are trying to make, do you have faith in the empires world bearing scientist to advise and do the right thing regarding the vaccine or not? At what point did the EU try and force us to follow their programme |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
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"but blue passports
Made in France
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation
How much have the UK spent/lost due to Brexit since 2016?
There's no way to know. Everything that's available is an estimate. Who knows what would've happened if the vote went the other way
We would still be in the EU. And things would have been as they were instead of this clusterfuck.see there’s the problem with the U.K. too many people just can’t accept brexit and move on it’s ruining your lives dwelling on the negative it’s not good for any of you
People are highlighting the negatives because there aren’t any positives. Be totally honest , is Brexit turning out to be as you expected and hoped for ? it probably is because I wasn’t stupid enough to think after just over a month it would be great iv told you plenty of times see where we are in a few yrs then atleast you have something to talk about now your turn you be honest wtf did you expect after a month really a month and don’t answer with a question
We voted to leave in 2016, the fact it has taken 5 years is one of my issues, we haven’t got a good deal with the EU it is far worse than one we had and the extra red tape will cost billions on top of the £120 billion we have spent to get to this point, we keep signing trade deals that are the same as the ones we had, I could go on. I keep getting told that you can’t rely on forecast from banks, IMF, economists but you are telling me everything might be ok in 5-10 years despite all the experts staying the opposite . but yr asking for benefits a month in in the middle of a world pandemic I’d understand if it was a year or two in and I never said 5-10 yrs
Show me your forecast? Show me which experts are predicting Brexit will be a success? It is 5 years since we voted to leave and no offence mate but I won’t be taking any notice of what you are predicting when experts are predicting the opposite then why ask for me to show me my forecasts are you onit all ready a bit early isn’t it lol
Any forecasts that show that Brexit will be a success? "
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"but blue passports
Made in France
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation
How much have the UK spent/lost due to Brexit since 2016?
There's no way to know. Everything that's available is an estimate. Who knows what would've happened if the vote went the other way
We would still be in the EU. And things would have been as they were instead of this clusterfuck.see there’s the problem with the U.K. too many people just can’t accept brexit and move on it’s ruining your lives dwelling on the negative it’s not good for any of you
People are highlighting the negatives because there aren’t any positives. Be totally honest , is Brexit turning out to be as you expected and hoped for ? it probably is because I wasn’t stupid enough to think after just over a month it would be great iv told you plenty of times see where we are in a few yrs then atleast you have something to talk about now your turn you be honest wtf did you expect after a month really a month and don’t answer with a question
We voted to leave in 2016, the fact it has taken 5 years is one of my issues, we haven’t got a good deal with the EU it is far worse than one we had and the extra red tape will cost billions on top of the £120 billion we have spent to get to this point, we keep signing trade deals that are the same as the ones we had, I could go on. I keep getting told that you can’t rely on forecast from banks, IMF, economists but you are telling me everything might be ok in 5-10 years despite all the experts staying the opposite . but yr asking for benefits a month in in the middle of a world pandemic I’d understand if it was a year or two in and I never said 5-10 yrs
Show me your forecast? Show me which experts are predicting Brexit will be a success? It is 5 years since we voted to leave and no offence mate but I won’t be taking any notice of what you are predicting when experts are predicting the opposite then why ask for me to show me my forecasts are you onit all ready a bit early isn’t it lol
Any forecasts that show that Brexit will be a success?
Read my new post "
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The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation
How much have the UK spent/lost due to Brexit since 2016?
There's no way to know. Everything that's available is an estimate. Who knows what would've happened if the vote went the other way
We would still be in the EU. And things would have been as they were instead of this clusterfuck.see there’s the problem with the U.K. too many people just can’t accept brexit and move on it’s ruining your lives dwelling on the negative it’s not good for any of you
I don't really get this bury-your-head-in-the-sand and pretend everything is okay argument.
In my opinion, this is what's wrong with the UK. Too much apathy. "
so just talking the country down complianing day in day out for yrs is a good thing then I’m not talking about you talking about the others we all know on here I’m not having a pop at them but it can’t be good surely |
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"but blue passports
Made in France
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation
How much have the UK spent/lost due to Brexit since 2016?
There's no way to know. Everything that's available is an estimate. Who knows what would've happened if the vote went the other way
We would still be in the EU. And things would have been as they were instead of this clusterfuck.
Well we wouldn’t have had any vaccines but heck we’d have had unity and solidarity and we could have listened to the taxpayer funded European Parliament orchestra.... if we survived Covid.
Why wouldn’t we have had any vaccines? you asked me a question amd to be honest and I did then you avoid mine lol typical
Wanna answer it for me then?
Without question a remainer vote would have meant we’d have been in the European Medicines Agency as was confirmed this week as official Keri Starmer policy. "
And? Why couldn’t we order our own if we didn’t want to?
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke |
"but blue passports
Made in France
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation
How much have the UK spent/lost due to Brexit since 2016?
There's no way to know. Everything that's available is an estimate. Who knows what would've happened if the vote went the other way
We would still be in the EU. And things would have been as they were instead of this clusterfuck.see there’s the problem with the U.K. too many people just can’t accept brexit and move on it’s ruining your lives dwelling on the negative it’s not good for any of you
People are highlighting the negatives because there aren’t any positives. Be totally honest , is Brexit turning out to be as you expected and hoped for ? it probably is because I wasn’t stupid enough to think after just over a month it would be great iv told you plenty of times see where we are in a few yrs then atleast you have something to talk about now your turn you be honest wtf did you expect after a month really a month and don’t answer with a question
We voted to leave in 2016, the fact it has taken 5 years is one of my issues, we haven’t got a good deal with the EU it is far worse than one we had and the extra red tape will cost billions on top of the £120 billion we have spent to get to this point, we keep signing trade deals that are the same as the ones we had, I could go on. I keep getting told that you can’t rely on forecast from banks, IMF, economists but you are telling me everything might be ok in 5-10 years despite all the experts staying the opposite . but yr asking for benefits a month in in the middle of a world pandemic I’d understand if it was a year or two in and I never said 5-10 yrs
Show me your forecast? Show me which experts are predicting Brexit will be a success? It is 5 years since we voted to leave and no offence mate but I won’t be taking any notice of what you are predicting when experts are predicting the opposite then why ask for me to show me my forecasts are you onit all ready a bit early isn’t it lol
Any forecasts that show that Brexit will be a success?
Read my new post
This should be good, are we now allowed to believe and use forecasts and estimates "
But it's not a forecast it's a fact that those applications have been made.
Whether they make of successful operation once here you can forecast or not. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It’s hysterical quoting Bloomberg estimates (not calculations) when Michael Bloomberg is one of the most rabid anti brexiteers and flip flops his political allegiances every few years depending how the wind is blowing. "
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"but blue passports
Made in France
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation
How much have the UK spent/lost due to Brexit since 2016?
There's no way to know. Everything that's available is an estimate. Who knows what would've happened if the vote went the other way
We would still be in the EU. And things would have been as they were instead of this clusterfuck.see there’s the problem with the U.K. too many people just can’t accept brexit and move on it’s ruining your lives dwelling on the negative it’s not good for any of you
I don't really get this bury-your-head-in-the-sand and pretend everything is okay argument.
In my opinion, this is what's wrong with the UK. Too much apathy. so just talking the country down complianing day in day out for yrs is a good thing then I’m not talking about you talking about the others we all know on here I’m not having a pop at them but it can’t be good surely "
You might want to raise that point with our fisherman . |
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"but blue passports
Made in France
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation
How much have the UK spent/lost due to Brexit since 2016?
There's no way to know. Everything that's available is an estimate. Who knows what would've happened if the vote went the other way
We would still be in the EU. And things would have been as they were instead of this clusterfuck.see there’s the problem with the U.K. too many people just can’t accept brexit and move on it’s ruining your lives dwelling on the negative it’s not good for any of you
People are highlighting the negatives because there aren’t any positives. Be totally honest , is Brexit turning out to be as you expected and hoped for ? it probably is because I wasn’t stupid enough to think after just over a month it would be great iv told you plenty of times see where we are in a few yrs then atleast you have something to talk about now your turn you be honest wtf did you expect after a month really a month and don’t answer with a question
We voted to leave in 2016, the fact it has taken 5 years is one of my issues, we haven’t got a good deal with the EU it is far worse than one we had and the extra red tape will cost billions on top of the £120 billion we have spent to get to this point, we keep signing trade deals that are the same as the ones we had, I could go on. I keep getting told that you can’t rely on forecast from banks, IMF, economists but you are telling me everything might be ok in 5-10 years despite all the experts staying the opposite . but yr asking for benefits a month in in the middle of a world pandemic I’d understand if it was a year or two in and I never said 5-10 yrs
Show me your forecast? Show me which experts are predicting Brexit will be a success? It is 5 years since we voted to leave and no offence mate but I won’t be taking any notice of what you are predicting when experts are predicting the opposite then why ask for me to show me my forecasts are you onit all ready a bit early isn’t it lol
Any forecasts that show that Brexit will be a success?
Read my new post
This should be good, are we now allowed to believe and use forecasts and estimates
But it's not a forecast it's a fact that those applications have been made.
Whether they make of successful operation once here you can forecast or not."
Ah, good news, are they just applying at this stage |
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"but blue passports
Made in France
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation
How much have the UK spent/lost due to Brexit since 2016?
There's no way to know. Everything that's available is an estimate. Who knows what would've happened if the vote went the other way
We would still be in the EU. And things would have been as they were instead of this clusterfuck.see there’s the problem with the U.K. too many people just can’t accept brexit and move on it’s ruining your lives dwelling on the negative it’s not good for any of you
People are highlighting the negatives because there aren’t any positives. Be totally honest , is Brexit turning out to be as you expected and hoped for ? for me yes for others not but that's life
Fair enough, I guess you didn’t vote for financial benefits either? "
no I never did as my life want change if there was or wasn't. I voted to leave for my own reasons not because someone says this or that and im happy some aren't. |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke |
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Ah, good news, are they just applying at this stage "
They have submitted applications is what the FOI says.
Unless they fall foul of DTI standards I can't see that they would fail. |
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over a year ago
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"but blue passports
Made in France
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation
How much have the UK spent/lost due to Brexit since 2016?
There's no way to know. Everything that's available is an estimate. Who knows what would've happened if the vote went the other way
We would still be in the EU. And things would have been as they were instead of this clusterfuck.see there’s the problem with the U.K. too many people just can’t accept brexit and move on it’s ruining your lives dwelling on the negative it’s not good for any of you
People are highlighting the negatives because there aren’t any positives. Be totally honest , is Brexit turning out to be as you expected and hoped for ? for me yes for others not but that's life
Fair enough, I guess you didn’t vote for financial benefits either? no I never did as my life want change if there was or wasn't. I voted to leave for my own reasons not because someone says this or that and im happy some aren't."
You can’t say fairer than that, if you are happy with the outcome then fair play to you |
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Ah, good news, are they just applying at this stage
They have submitted applications is what the FOI says.
Unless they fall foul of DTI standards I can't see that they would fail. "
Looks good, plenty more bankers in London. |
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over a year ago
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"but blue passports
Made in France
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation
How much have the UK spent/lost due to Brexit since 2016?
There's no way to know. Everything that's available is an estimate. Who knows what would've happened if the vote went the other way
We would still be in the EU. And things would have been as they were instead of this clusterfuck.see there’s the problem with the U.K. too many people just can’t accept brexit and move on it’s ruining your lives dwelling on the negative it’s not good for any of you
People are highlighting the negatives because there aren’t any positives. Be totally honest , is Brexit turning out to be as you expected and hoped for ? for me yes for others not but that's life
Fair enough, I guess you didn’t vote for financial benefits either? no I never did as my life want change if there was or wasn't. I voted to leave for my own reasons not because someone says this or that and im happy some aren't.
You can’t say fairer than that, if you are happy with the outcome then fair play to you "
yep but I do agree this government are fuckwits with most things just couldn't trust labour to see it through |
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"but blue passports
Made in France
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation
How much have the UK spent/lost due to Brexit since 2016?
There's no way to know. Everything that's available is an estimate. Who knows what would've happened if the vote went the other way
We would still be in the EU. And things would have been as they were instead of this clusterfuck.see there’s the problem with the U.K. too many people just can’t accept brexit and move on it’s ruining your lives dwelling on the negative it’s not good for any of you
People are highlighting the negatives because there aren’t any positives. Be totally honest , is Brexit turning out to be as you expected and hoped for ? for me yes for others not but that's life
Fair enough, I guess you didn’t vote for financial benefits either? no I never did as my life want change if there was or wasn't. I voted to leave for my own reasons not because someone says this or that and im happy some aren't."
Well... there’s logic for ya  |
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"but blue passports
Made in France
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation
How much have the UK spent/lost due to Brexit since 2016?
There's no way to know. Everything that's available is an estimate. Who knows what would've happened if the vote went the other way
We would still be in the EU. And things would have been as they were instead of this clusterfuck.see there’s the problem with the U.K. too many people just can’t accept brexit and move on it’s ruining your lives dwelling on the negative it’s not good for any of you
I don't really get this bury-your-head-in-the-sand and pretend everything is okay argument.
In my opinion, this is what's wrong with the UK. Too much apathy. so just talking the country down complianing day in day out for yrs is a good thing then I’m not talking about you talking about the others we all know on here I’m not having a pop at them but it can’t be good surely "
Where you see "talking the country down". I see political dissent and a desire for things to be better for all of us.
I get what you're saying. But pretending everything is fine, when things are getting worse and worse, doesn't seem healthy to me. |
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"but blue passports
Made in France
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation
How much have the UK spent/lost due to Brexit since 2016?
There's no way to know. Everything that's available is an estimate. Who knows what would've happened if the vote went the other way
We would still be in the EU. And things would have been as they were instead of this clusterfuck.see there’s the problem with the U.K. too many people just can’t accept brexit and move on it’s ruining your lives dwelling on the negative it’s not good for any of you
People are highlighting the negatives because there aren’t any positives. Be totally honest , is Brexit turning out to be as you expected and hoped for ? for me yes for others not but that's life
Fair enough, I guess you didn’t vote for financial benefits either? no I never did as my life want change if there was or wasn't. I voted to leave for my own reasons not because someone says this or that and im happy some aren't."
The problem is, it's not only leave voters who are suffering because of your vote. It's everyone. |
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"but blue passports
Made in France
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation
How much have the UK spent/lost due to Brexit since 2016?
There's no way to know. Everything that's available is an estimate. Who knows what would've happened if the vote went the other way
We would still be in the EU. And things would have been as they were instead of this clusterfuck.see there’s the problem with the U.K. too many people just can’t accept brexit and move on it’s ruining your lives dwelling on the negative it’s not good for any of you
People are highlighting the negatives because there aren’t any positives. Be totally honest , is Brexit turning out to be as you expected and hoped for ? for me yes for others not but that's life
Fair enough, I guess you didn’t vote for financial benefits either? no I never did as my life want change if there was or wasn't. I voted to leave for my own reasons not because someone says this or that and im happy some aren't.
The problem is, it's not only leave voters who are suffering because of your vote. It's everyone. "
Couldn’t agree more
No more brexiteers or remainers. That ship has sailed.
We now need some bloody common sense ! |
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"but blue passports
Made in France
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation
How much have the UK spent/lost due to Brexit since 2016?
There's no way to know. Everything that's available is an estimate. Who knows what would've happened if the vote went the other way
We would still be in the EU. And things would have been as they were instead of this clusterfuck.see there’s the problem with the U.K. too many people just can’t accept brexit and move on it’s ruining your lives dwelling on the negative it’s not good for any of you
People are highlighting the negatives because there aren’t any positives. Be totally honest , is Brexit turning out to be as you expected and hoped for ? for me yes for others not but that's life
Fair enough, I guess you didn’t vote for financial benefits either? no I never did as my life want change if there was or wasn't. I voted to leave for my own reasons not because someone says this or that and im happy some aren't.
The problem is, it's not only leave voters who are suffering because of your vote. It's everyone.
Couldn’t agree more
No more brexiteers or remainers. That ship has sailed.
We now need some bloody common sense ! "
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"but blue passports
Made in France
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation
How much have the UK spent/lost due to Brexit since 2016?
There's no way to know. Everything that's available is an estimate. Who knows what would've happened if the vote went the other way
We would still be in the EU. And things would have been as they were instead of this clusterfuck.see there’s the problem with the U.K.
too many people just can’t accept brexit and move on it’s ruining your lives dwelling on the negative it’s not good for any of you "
Now this is progress, finally facing up to the reality of the Brexit negatives.
Well done |
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By *ild_oatsMan
over a year ago
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"It's nearly 9am and we haven't had a single "is this a Brexit benefit" thread to josh about this morning.
Has the debate finished then? Are we all on the same page looking forwards to a prosperous future? Great
How about this as a Brexit benefit
Pages of paperwork to export 1 lorry load of fish
It works out like this.
Catch certification - 27 pages per lorry
Customs agent paperwork - 2 pages per lorry.
Export certificates - 20 pages per lorry plus vet visit and approval.
Statements of value and invoices - 22 pages
Plus the driver extra steps of customs declarations and board control chech.
Yes the brexit benefit all the people now employed to carry out this administration.
Pretty sure environmental health certifies consignments, don't think highly qualified vets are that interested in looking at dead fish. And I think some tracking paperwork is necessary from an h+s point of view so customers aren't poisoned.
What you think is irrelevant - these are now the requirements.
The vet has to watch the lorry being loaded and sealed.
Some of it was already there from a H&S perspective but only amounted to a one or two pages at most plus an invoice.
But the paperwork requirements have exploded.
In addition I expected Vets are going to be jumping for joy over this new requirement.....
7 years at veterinary school just to watch a lorry being loaded with fish and then sealed.....
I've read the actual regulation this morning as I like to work off factual information and it clearly says health inspectors can do it. Your credibility is at stake with me when you exaggerate. "
The French part of the Export Health Certificate requires a Vet to add page numbers on one page and the Vets stamp and signature in pen but using black ink on another page.
I must have been exaggerating the number of years someone spends at veterinary school.... |
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"but blue passports
Made in France
The UK haven't spent £200b on Brexit. And UK passports aren't made in France.
And the say the Leave campaign was made up of misinformation
How much have the UK spent/lost due to Brexit since 2016?
There's no way to know. Everything that's available is an estimate. Who knows what would've happened if the vote went the other way
We would still be in the EU. And things would have been as they were instead of this clusterfuck.see there’s the problem with the U.K.
too many people just can’t accept brexit and move on it’s ruining your lives dwelling on the negative it’s not good for any of you
Now this is progress, finally facing up to the reality of the Brexit negatives.
Well done "
Great people are realising this “boosterism” that the Brexit leaders shoved down Brexiteers was a load of lies!
Just admit it, it was wrong! Wrong for the country wrong for the nation as a whole!
Liars all of them, and they continue to lie all the time! |
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"£1.2 billion trade deal signed with Ghana. Its all adding up.
Ghana? yep.
This deal must be much better than the one we already had? no idea not seen the details. duty free and quota free whats not to like?
I just had a quick look, it’s a rollover deal, exactly the same as what we had with the EU? Is this a cause to celebrate ? I will get the lobsters out again Wrong this is a tariff free deal.The EPA is a development-oriented free trade agreement. Under it, the EU provides duty-free, quota- free access for Ghana's exports to the EU from the first day of application. For its part side, Ghana will progressively reduce its tariffs to zero for 78% of its imports from the EU by 2029.
Btw, are you happy with the UK doing a deal with Ghana due to their appalling human rights record? Has it ? you not happy increasing jobs and the wealth of african countries ?
Personally i would like to see more deals with these smaller African nations creating jobs and wealth to the countries rather than just charity and help bring them into the 21st century but hey ho i guess you are happy just making french farmers even more wealthy.
Why? What new wealth and jobs are we creating in Ghana? They have a very corrupt government, the money will just line the people in power pockets "
So is that human rights abuse & corruption there because of the EU trade agreement that’s already in place? Surely the EU are supporting it by agreeing a trade deal with Ghana in the first instance, are you happy for the EU to support such government corruption & abuse of human rights? Are you saying if we are in the EU then it’s ok to deal with such governments, but if not we should adhere to a fairer set of rules than your mates on the continent? If you where a member of a club that supported government corruption & human rights abuse, would you stay in that club or want to leave it? x |
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I can understand with meat exports & other foodstuff or goods made in the UK having checks, but which fish are the EU fishermen catching & where are they catching them? How do you prove a fishes place of origin, surely if the fish are from UK waters then that’s the origin not the place their landed? Are the EU treating fish caught in UK waters differently to fish caught in EU waters? Surely they should be doing the same safety checks & paperwork for UK caught fish landed on the continent, as exported from the UK where often the food safety & hygiene standards are equal to most & even higher than others within the EU. x |
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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago
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"I can understand with meat exports & other foodstuff or goods made in the UK having checks, but which fish are the EU fishermen catching & where are they catching them? How do you prove a fishes place of origin, surely if the fish are from UK waters then that’s the origin not the place their landed? Are the EU treating fish caught in UK waters differently to fish caught in EU waters? Surely they should be doing the same safety checks & paperwork for UK caught fish landed on the continent, as exported from the UK where often the food safety & hygiene standards are equal to most & even higher than others within the EU. x"
But Boris thoroughly read the terms and said that’s fine. I agree with you but as ever attention to the truth and reality just doesn’t happen with this government. It’s just headlines deep politics. |
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By *ackal1Couple
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"£1.2 billion trade deal signed with Ghana. Its all adding up.
Ghana? yep.
This deal must be much better than the one we already had? no idea not seen the details. duty free and quota free whats not to like?
I just had a quick look, it’s a rollover deal, exactly the same as what we had with the EU? Is this a cause to celebrate ? I will get the lobsters out again Wrong this is a tariff free deal.The EPA is a development-oriented free trade agreement. Under it, the EU provides duty-free, quota- free access for Ghana's exports to the EU from the first day of application. For its part side, Ghana will progressively reduce its tariffs to zero for 78% of its imports from the EU by 2029.
Btw, are you happy with the UK doing a deal with Ghana due to their appalling human rights record? Has it ? you not happy increasing jobs and the wealth of african countries ?
Personally i would like to see more deals with these smaller African nations creating jobs and wealth to the countries rather than just charity and help bring them into the 21st century but hey ho i guess you are happy just making french farmers even more wealthy.
Why? What new wealth and jobs are we creating in Ghana? They have a very corrupt government, the money will just line the people in power pockets
So is that human rights abuse & corruption there because of the EU trade agreement that’s already in place? Surely the EU are supporting it by agreeing a trade deal with Ghana in the first instance, are you happy for the EU to support such government corruption & abuse of human rights? Are you saying if we are in the EU then it’s ok to deal with such governments, but if not we should adhere to a fairer set of rules than your mates on the continent? If you where a member of a club that supported government corruption & human rights abuse, would you stay in that club or want to leave it? x"
We supposedly took back control to be able to have higher standards.
If I trade with a guy I know is a thief and stealing from others I’m prosecuted for various offences related to that.
The president of Sudan has an international arrest warrant out for him at the moment for corruption and theft. We are inviting his government to London to a forum discussing more trade with Sudan re-enforcing his power.
No one is stopping us and the trade is minuscule . Where is the moral ground on this?
The government narrowly defeated an amendment to a trade deal on the 19th January to stop us dealing with countries guilty or accused of genocide. Our own non EU government rejected the amendment. Again where is the so called higher moral ground promised? Genocide is very much higher up than civil rights league tables in the shit end of some people’s life and mostly death.
Looks like a deal at any price for that headline again. |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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i think you will find that the uk still has sanctions on sudan.
The Sudan (Sanctions) (EU Exit) Regulations 2020 came fully into force on 31 December 2020. They put in place sanctions measures to ensure the UK continues to meet its obligations under the United Nations sanctions regime relating to Sudan, to encourage the resolution of the armed conflicts in and the stabilisation of Sudan. |
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it's all very well that our MP's are demanding that athlete's boycott beijing olympics next year on account of the persecution of the Uighur population. yet it appears that our government still aprove weapons etc sales to china which are then doubtless used as tools in the persecution. then there's the infrastructure projects that the uk is paying china grossly excessive amounts of money for. it's the usual conservative and unionist short-termist hypocricy decrying human rights on one hand while trying to make a buck off the perpetrators under the table with the other hand. |
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"£1.2 billion trade deal signed with Ghana. Its all adding up.
Ghana? yep.
This deal must be much better than the one we already had? no idea not seen the details. duty free and quota free whats not to like?
I just had a quick look, it’s a rollover deal, exactly the same as what we had with the EU? Is this a cause to celebrate ? I will get the lobsters out again Wrong this is a tariff free deal.The EPA is a development-oriented free trade agreement. Under it, the EU provides duty-free, quota- free access for Ghana's exports to the EU from the first day of application. For its part side, Ghana will progressively reduce its tariffs to zero for 78% of its imports from the EU by 2029.
Btw, are you happy with the UK doing a deal with Ghana due to their appalling human rights record? Has it ? you not happy increasing jobs and the wealth of african countries ?
Personally i would like to see more deals with these smaller African nations creating jobs and wealth to the countries rather than just charity and help bring them into the 21st century but hey ho i guess you are happy just making french farmers even more wealthy.
Why? What new wealth and jobs are we creating in Ghana? They have a very corrupt government, the money will just line the people in power pockets
So is that human rights abuse & corruption there because of the EU trade agreement that’s already in place? Surely the EU are supporting it by agreeing a trade deal with Ghana in the first instance, are you happy for the EU to support such government corruption & abuse of human rights? Are you saying if we are in the EU then it’s ok to deal with such governments, but if not we should adhere to a fairer set of rules than your mates on the continent? If you where a member of a club that supported government corruption & human rights abuse, would you stay in that club or want to leave it? x
We supposedly took back control to be able to have higher standards.
If I trade with a guy I know is a thief and stealing from others I’m prosecuted for various offences related to that.
The president of Sudan has an international arrest warrant out for him at the moment for corruption and theft. We are inviting his government to London to a forum discussing more trade with Sudan re-enforcing his power.
No one is stopping us and the trade is minuscule . Where is the moral ground on this?
The government narrowly defeated an amendment to a trade deal on the 19th January to stop us dealing with countries guilty or accused of genocide. Our own non EU government rejected the amendment. Again where is the so called higher moral ground promised? Genocide is very much higher up than civil rights league tables in the shit end of some people’s life and mostly death.
Looks like a deal at any price for that headline again. "
And yet France arguably caused far more wars in the Middle East whilst part of the EU with the sale of nuclear technology to Iran in the 1970s and as of 2019 was negotiating nuclear power with the UAE. |
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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago
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"£1.2 billion trade deal signed with Ghana. Its all adding up.
Ghana? yep.
This deal must be much better than the one we already had? no idea not seen the details. duty free and quota free whats not to like?
I just had a quick look, it’s a rollover deal, exactly the same as what we had with the EU? Is this a cause to celebrate ? I will get the lobsters out again Wrong this is a tariff free deal.The EPA is a development-oriented free trade agreement. Under it, the EU provides duty-free, quota- free access for Ghana's exports to the EU from the first day of application. For its part side, Ghana will progressively reduce its tariffs to zero for 78% of its imports from the EU by 2029.
Btw, are you happy with the UK doing a deal with Ghana due to their appalling human rights record? Has it ? you not happy increasing jobs and the wealth of african countries ?
Personally i would like to see more deals with these smaller African nations creating jobs and wealth to the countries rather than just charity and help bring them into the 21st century but hey ho i guess you are happy just making french farmers even more wealthy.
Why? What new wealth and jobs are we creating in Ghana? They have a very corrupt government, the money will just line the people in power pockets
So is that human rights abuse & corruption there because of the EU trade agreement that’s already in place? Surely the EU are supporting it by agreeing a trade deal with Ghana in the first instance, are you happy for the EU to support such government corruption & abuse of human rights? Are you saying if we are in the EU then it’s ok to deal with such governments, but if not we should adhere to a fairer set of rules than your mates on the continent? If you where a member of a club that supported government corruption & human rights abuse, would you stay in that club or want to leave it? x
We supposedly took back control to be able to have higher standards.
If I trade with a guy I know is a thief and stealing from others I’m prosecuted for various offences related to that.
The president of Sudan has an international arrest warrant out for him at the moment for corruption and theft. We are inviting his government to London to a forum discussing more trade with Sudan re-enforcing his power.
No one is stopping us and the trade is minuscule . Where is the moral ground on this?
The government narrowly defeated an amendment to a trade deal on the 19th January to stop us dealing with countries guilty or accused of genocide. Our own non EU government rejected the amendment. Again where is the so called higher moral ground promised? Genocide is very much higher up than civil rights league tables in the shit end of some people’s life and mostly death.
Looks like a deal at any price for that headline again.
And yet France arguably caused far more wars in the Middle East whilst part of the EU with the sale of nuclear technology to Iran in the 1970s and as of 2019 was negotiating nuclear power with the UAE. "
You do know Saudi is one of our biggest arms export countries. The country that chops off peoples heads if they disagree with the king!
We also backed and armed Saddam Hussain for years until we decided he was the enemy therefore starting a war and creating years of chaos and death both in the middle east and around the world.
We went in against Gadaffi to create chaos in Lybia too. Lots more deaths there. .
We shouldn’t throw stones living in our glass house!
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By *ackal1Couple
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"i think you will find that the uk still has sanctions on sudan.
The Sudan (Sanctions) (EU Exit) Regulations 2020 came fully into force on 31 December 2020. They put in place sanctions measures to ensure the UK continues to meet its obligations under the United Nations sanctions regime relating to Sudan, to encourage the resolution of the armed conflicts in and the stabilisation of Sudan."
We do and the forum is shortly to take place in London to look at increasing trade .
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"i think you will find that the uk still has sanctions on sudan.
The Sudan (Sanctions) (EU Exit) Regulations 2020 came fully into force on 31 December 2020. They put in place sanctions measures to ensure the UK continues to meet its obligations under the United Nations sanctions regime relating to Sudan, to encourage the resolution of the armed conflicts in and the stabilisation of Sudan.
We do and the forum is shortly to take place in London to look at increasing trade .
Why have a forum if we’re not looking to do more trade ? "
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"£1.2 billion trade deal signed with Ghana. Its all adding up.
Ghana? yep.
This deal must be much better than the one we already had? no idea not seen the details. duty free and quota free whats not to like?
I just had a quick look, it’s a rollover deal, exactly the same as what we had with the EU? Is this a cause to celebrate ? I will get the lobsters out again Wrong this is a tariff free deal.The EPA is a development-oriented free trade agreement. Under it, the EU provides duty-free, quota- free access for Ghana's exports to the EU from the first day of application. For its part side, Ghana will progressively reduce its tariffs to zero for 78% of its imports from the EU by 2029.
Btw, are you happy with the UK doing a deal with Ghana due to their appalling human rights record? Has it ? you not happy increasing jobs and the wealth of african countries ?
Personally i would like to see more deals with these smaller African nations creating jobs and wealth to the countries rather than just charity and help bring them into the 21st century but hey ho i guess you are happy just making french farmers even more wealthy.
Why? What new wealth and jobs are we creating in Ghana? They have a very corrupt government, the money will just line the people in power pockets
So is that human rights abuse & corruption there because of the EU trade agreement that’s already in place? Surely the EU are supporting it by agreeing a trade deal with Ghana in the first instance, are you happy for the EU to support such government corruption & abuse of human rights? Are you saying if we are in the EU then it’s ok to deal with such governments, but if not we should adhere to a fairer set of rules than your mates on the continent? If you where a member of a club that supported government corruption & human rights abuse, would you stay in that club or want to leave it? x
We supposedly took back control to be able to have higher standards.
If I trade with a guy I know is a thief and stealing from others I’m prosecuted for various offences related to that.
The president of Sudan has an international arrest warrant out for him at the moment for corruption and theft. We are inviting his government to London to a forum discussing more trade with Sudan re-enforcing his power.
No one is stopping us and the trade is minuscule . Where is the moral ground on this?
The government narrowly defeated an amendment to a trade deal on the 19th January to stop us dealing with countries guilty or accused of genocide. Our own non EU government rejected the amendment. Again where is the so called higher moral ground promised? Genocide is very much higher up than civil rights league tables in the shit end of some people’s life and mostly death.
Looks like a deal at any price for that headline again.
And yet France arguably caused far more wars in the Middle East whilst part of the EU with the sale of nuclear technology to Iran in the 1970s and as of 2019 was negotiating nuclear power with the UAE.
You do know Saudi is one of our biggest arms export countries. The country that chops off peoples heads if they disagree with the king!
We also backed and armed Saddam Hussain for years until we decided he was the enemy therefore starting a war and creating years of chaos and death both in the middle east and around the world.
We went in against Gadaffi to create chaos in Lybia too. Lots more deaths there. .
We shouldn’t throw stones living in our glass house!
"
Going to be interesting too.see what we do now as Biden has pulled away from them |
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"£1.2 billion trade deal signed with Ghana. Its all adding up.
Ghana? yep.
This deal must be much better than the one we already had? no idea not seen the details. duty free and quota free whats not to like?
I just had a quick look, it’s a rollover deal, exactly the same as what we had with the EU? Is this a cause to celebrate ? I will get the lobsters out again Wrong this is a tariff free deal.The EPA is a development-oriented free trade agreement. Under it, the EU provides duty-free, quota- free access for Ghana's exports to the EU from the first day of application. For its part side, Ghana will progressively reduce its tariffs to zero for 78% of its imports from the EU by 2029.
Btw, are you happy with the UK doing a deal with Ghana due to their appalling human rights record? Has it ? you not happy increasing jobs and the wealth of african countries ?
Personally i would like to see more deals with these smaller African nations creating jobs and wealth to the countries rather than just charity and help bring them into the 21st century but hey ho i guess you are happy just making french farmers even more wealthy.
Why? What new wealth and jobs are we creating in Ghana? They have a very corrupt government, the money will just line the people in power pockets
So is that human rights abuse & corruption there because of the EU trade agreement that’s already in place? Surely the EU are supporting it by agreeing a trade deal with Ghana in the first instance, are you happy for the EU to support such government corruption & abuse of human rights? Are you saying if we are in the EU then it’s ok to deal with such governments, but if not we should adhere to a fairer set of rules than your mates on the continent? If you where a member of a club that supported government corruption & human rights abuse, would you stay in that club or want to leave it? x
We supposedly took back control to be able to have higher standards.
If I trade with a guy I know is a thief and stealing from others I’m prosecuted for various offences related to that.
The president of Sudan has an international arrest warrant out for him at the moment for corruption and theft. We are inviting his government to London to a forum discussing more trade with Sudan re-enforcing his power.
No one is stopping us and the trade is minuscule . Where is the moral ground on this?
The government narrowly defeated an amendment to a trade deal on the 19th January to stop us dealing with countries guilty or accused of genocide. Our own non EU government rejected the amendment. Again where is the so called higher moral ground promised? Genocide is very much higher up than civil rights league tables in the shit end of some people’s life and mostly death.
Looks like a deal at any price for that headline again.
And yet France arguably caused far more wars in the Middle East whilst part of the EU with the sale of nuclear technology to Iran in the 1970s and as of 2019 was negotiating nuclear power with the UAE.
You do know Saudi is one of our biggest arms export countries. The country that chops off peoples heads if they disagree with the king!
We also backed and armed Saddam Hussain for years until we decided he was the enemy therefore starting a war and creating years of chaos and death both in the middle east and around the world.
We went in against Gadaffi to create chaos in Lybia too. Lots more deaths there. .
We shouldn’t throw stones living in our glass house!
"
The Middle East was fucked from the moment France started their dealing with the Ayatollahs in the seventies, yes I blame the EU for that.
I didn’t agree with getting involved at all but there was a huge number of bleeding heart liberals begging us to intervene in Libya. |
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