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"Yes will be interesting and funny how our eu obsessives havent mentioned it, bet they would if boris did it. " You cannot defend the in defendable .I see the Taoiseach is not happy either so much for a united eu. | |||
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"Well it didn't take long they have invoked article 16 and now there is a boarder on the mainland of Ireland.I wonder what sleepy joe will make of that? " It is a mistake by the EU but it won’t effect the GFA, it is a ‘single issue and the rest of the protocol is protected’ . We aren’t in the EU club anymore and they are protecting their members | |||
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"Well it didn't take long they have invoked article 16 and now there is a boarder on the mainland of Ireland.I wonder what sleepy joe will make of that? It is a mistake by the EU but it won’t effect the GFA, it is a ‘single issue and the rest of the protocol is protected’ . We aren’t in the EU club anymore and they are protecting their members " What you mean like boris threatened to do and was heavily criticised for. There is now a border in Ireland | |||
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"Well it didn't take long they have invoked article 16 and now there is a boarder on the mainland of Ireland.I wonder what sleepy joe will make of that? " Why have they done this? | |||
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"Well it didn't take long they have invoked article 16 and now there is a boarder on the mainland of Ireland.I wonder what sleepy joe will make of that? It is a mistake by the EU but it won’t effect the GFA, it is a ‘single issue and the rest of the protocol is protected’ . We aren’t in the EU club anymore and they are protecting their members What you mean like boris threatened to do and was heavily criticised for. There is now a border in Ireland " Did you criticise Boris ? Yes there is a border on’a single issues ‘ it looks like an overreaction by the EU , I am sure all the details and reasons will become available soon | |||
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"Did the EU vote for Brexit? " What has that got to do with it? Did the eu insist on no boarder on ireland? Have after 29 days the eu created a boarder on ireland ? two simple questions to answer as nothing else really needed in this thread . | |||
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"There's alot of hypocrisy going on...." Where? It looks like the EU have over reacted, we aren’t in the club anymore, you don’t give a shit about the EU , they don’t give a shit about the UK, sounds fair ?? | |||
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"Did the EU vote for Brexit? What has that got to do with it? Did the eu insist on no boarder on ireland? Have after 29 days the eu created a boarder on ireland ? two simple questions to answer as nothing else really needed in this thread ." Yes they insisted on no border. Yes they then introduced a border. | |||
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"There's alot of hypocrisy going on.... Where? It looks like the EU have over reacted, we aren’t in the club anymore, you don’t give a shit about the EU , they don’t give a shit about the UK, sounds fair ??" EU has no respect for Ireland . They took this action, mistake or otherwise, without contacting and discussing with Dublin. | |||
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"Well it didn't take long they have invoked article 16 and now there is a boarder on the mainland of Ireland.I wonder what sleepy joe will make of that? Why have they done this?" The EU are worried that vaccines exported to NI, will end up in England, through the back door so to say. | |||
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"There's alot of hypocrisy going on.... Where? It looks like the EU have over reacted, we aren’t in the club anymore, you don’t give a shit about the EU , they don’t give a shit about the UK, sounds fair ??" They want to divert vaccine intended for the UK to the EU so I would say it does have something to do with us | |||
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"There's alot of hypocrisy going on.... Where? It looks like the EU have over reacted, we aren’t in the club anymore, you don’t give a shit about the EU , they don’t give a shit about the UK, sounds fair ??" No this is about the integrity of the N Ireland protocol something the eu were keen to maintain well for a month anyway. | |||
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"Well it didn't take long they have invoked article 16 and now there is a boarder on the mainland of Ireland.I wonder what sleepy joe will make of that? Why have they done this? The EU are worried that vaccines exported to NI, will end up in England, through the back door so to say. " So a customs border? Blimey. Can't see how they can implement this. There's 100 back roads over the border. | |||
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"There's alot of hypocrisy going on.... Where? It looks like the EU have over reacted, we aren’t in the club anymore, you don’t give a shit about the EU , they don’t give a shit about the UK, sounds fair ??" They are certainly not happy | |||
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"Well it didn't take long they have invoked article 16 and now there is a boarder on the mainland of Ireland.I wonder what sleepy joe will make of that? Why have they done this? The EU are worried that vaccines exported to NI, will end up in England, through the back door so to say. So a customs border? Blimey. Can't see how they can implement this. There's 100 back roads over the border." That's there problem | |||
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"There's alot of hypocrisy going on.... Where? It looks like the EU have over reacted, we aren’t in the club anymore, you don’t give a shit about the EU , they don’t give a shit about the UK, sounds fair ?? They are certainly not happy " We don’t know the reasons as yet? We aren’t trade allies anymore though , I know one thing for certain though, thins wouldn’t have happened if we hadn’t have left (this will trigger a few on here ) | |||
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"There's alot of hypocrisy going on.... Where? It looks like the EU have over reacted, we aren’t in the club anymore, you don’t give a shit about the EU , they don’t give a shit about the UK, sounds fair ??No this is about the integrity of the N Ireland protocol something the eu were keen to maintain well for a month anyway." I stand to be corrected but think NI have a vote on the current deal regarding the border position in a few years time. Doubt this treatment will be forgotten | |||
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"There's alot of hypocrisy going on.... Where? It looks like the EU have over reacted, we aren’t in the club anymore, you don’t give a shit about the EU , they don’t give a shit about the UK, sounds fair ?? They are certainly not happy We don’t know the reasons as yet? We aren’t trade allies anymore though , I know one thing for certain though, thins wouldn’t have happened if we hadn’t have left (this will trigger a few on here ) " It’s hard for some to understand that without Brexit none of this would happen. | |||
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"There's alot of hypocrisy going on.... Where? It looks like the EU have over reacted, we aren’t in the club anymore, you don’t give a shit about the EU , they don’t give a shit about the UK, sounds fair ?? They are certainly not happy We don’t know the reasons as yet? We aren’t trade allies anymore though , I know one thing for certain though, thins wouldn’t have happened if we hadn’t have left (this will trigger a few on here ) It’s hard for some to understand that without Brexit none of this would happen. " Shhh, let them have their moment , incoming rage predicted | |||
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"There's alot of hypocrisy going on.... Where? It looks like the EU have over reacted, we aren’t in the club anymore, you don’t give a shit about the EU , they don’t give a shit about the UK, sounds fair ?? They are certainly not happy We don’t know the reasons as yet? We aren’t trade allies anymore though , I know one thing for certain though, thins wouldn’t have happened if we hadn’t have left (this will trigger a few on here ) It’s hard for some to understand that without Brexit none of this would happen. " ... and no doubt waiting for the vaccines to be ordered, approved, allocated. | |||
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"... they don’t give a shit about the UK" Except they clearly do. The Commission has made a complete pigs ear of the vaccination programme by being slow, inept and overly bureaucratic and we are making them look bad, so we have to be punished. | |||
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"EU have dropped the ball on this one can’t help think it’s a thinly veiled deflection from being slow to the vaccine table. Make it look like someone else is to blame straight from the Uk politics playbook. " I agree with the last part of your comment. | |||
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"EU have dropped the ball on this one can’t help think it’s a thinly veiled deflection from being slow to the vaccine table. Make it look like someone else is to blame straight from the Uk politics playbook. I agree with the last part of your comment. " What you don’t think they fucked up vaccinations? | |||
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"EU have dropped the ball on this one can’t help think it’s a thinly veiled deflection from being slow to the vaccine table. Make it look like someone else is to blame straight from the Uk politics playbook. " UvdL coming under huge pressure from member states and the press. Macron now praising the USA and the way that its gone about vaccines, and saying EU far too slow. | |||
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"EU have dropped the ball on this one can’t help think it’s a thinly veiled deflection from being slow to the vaccine table. Make it look like someone else is to blame straight from the Uk politics playbook. UvdL coming under huge pressure from member states and the press. Macron now praising the USA and the way that its gone about vaccines, and saying EU far too slow. " Perhaps somebody needs to remind the plonked which country insisted on wanting the french vaccine to be the favoured one. Is he really now praising trump or has joe down it all in a week. | |||
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"There's alot of hypocrisy going on.... Where? It looks like the EU have over reacted, we aren’t in the club anymore, you don’t give a shit about the EU , they don’t give a shit about the UK, sounds fair ?? They are certainly not happy We don’t know the reasons as yet? We aren’t trade allies anymore though , I know one thing for certain though, thins wouldn’t have happened if we hadn’t have left (this will trigger a few on here ) " Was reading something where they think pfeizer have fucked them over..apparently isreal have had no problems. Certainly looks like an over reaction though. | |||
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"All this proves even more we are right to have left the EU they are a bunch of two faced lying bastards. We have kept the rules they break them load of dirty scumbags. " | |||
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"EU have dropped the ball on this one can’t help think it’s a thinly veiled deflection from being slow to the vaccine table. Make it look like someone else is to blame straight from the Uk politics playbook. I agree with the last part of your comment. What you don’t think they fucked up vaccinations? " Difficult to tell. The Brexiteers will blame the bureaucrats, the red tape etc.. I think they were more careful approving vaccines for a start. Even Fauci said the same at the time. They have ordered more than 2 billion doses though I think. | |||
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"EU have dropped the ball on this one can’t help think it’s a thinly veiled deflection from being slow to the vaccine table. Make it look like someone else is to blame straight from the Uk politics playbook. I agree with the last part of your comment. What you don’t think they fucked up vaccinations? " Even the WHO are critical of them. Wonder what Biden thinks of how they have treated Ireland | |||
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"EU have dropped the ball on this one can’t help think it’s a thinly veiled deflection from being slow to the vaccine table. Make it look like someone else is to blame straight from the Uk politics playbook. I agree with the last part of your comment. What you don’t think they fucked up vaccinations? Even the WHO are critical of them. Wonder what Biden thinks of how they have treated Ireland" The WHO have been critical of a lot of countries including the U.K. | |||
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"EU have dropped the ball on this one can’t help think it’s a thinly veiled deflection from being slow to the vaccine table. Make it look like someone else is to blame straight from the Uk politics playbook. I agree with the last part of your comment. What you don’t think they fucked up vaccinations? Difficult to tell. The Brexiteers will blame the bureaucrats, the red tape etc.. I think they were more careful approving vaccines for a start. Even Fauci said the same at the time. They have ordered more than 2 billion doses though I think. " I don’t see Brexiteers come into to be honest certainly their blame is irrelevant. They ordered late and backed the wrong horse. They need a scapegoat. And I’m pro European. | |||
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"I don’t think will find any of the old remainers defending this... and to be honest it’s a move that can backfire big time.... If the EU stop Pfizer vaccines coming into the uk, the UK could basically do the same thing since the Oxford vaccine and the new Novamax vaccines are being made in the UK... to the point the uk could have a vaccine surplus Also because the Pfizer vaccine cost 10 times the production costs of the Oxford vaccine... it could cost them a lot more to get the entire continent vaccinated " Interesting situation for POTUS? EU interfering in American companies commercial contracts, not to mention the Irish border situation... | |||
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"All this proves even more we are right to have left the EU they are a bunch of two faced lying bastards. We have kept the rules they break them load of dirty scumbags. " Why would they give a shit what a leave voter thinks, in fact , why would they give a shit about what anyone in the UK thinks, we have left, get over it | |||
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"EU have dropped the ball on this one can’t help think it’s a thinly veiled deflection from being slow to the vaccine table. Make it look like someone else is to blame straight from the Uk politics playbook. I agree with the last part of your comment. What you don’t think they fucked up vaccinations? Difficult to tell. The Brexiteers will blame the bureaucrats, the red tape etc.. I think they were more careful approving vaccines for a start. Even Fauci said the same at the time. They have ordered more than 2 billion doses though I think. I don’t see Brexiteers come into to be honest certainly their blame is irrelevant. They ordered late and backed the wrong horse. They need a scapegoat. And I’m pro European. " Yes backing the back horse has also got to do with it. Sanofi has clearly been a bad choice. I understand Sanofi going to produce the Pfizer vaccine now. As for the way the EU are reacting there’s no question than 4 years of wrangling with the U.K. on Brexit combined to the populist buffoon we have as PM is not helping. | |||
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"I don’t think will find any of the old remainers defending this... and to be honest it’s a move that can backfire big time.... If the EU stop Pfizer vaccines coming into the uk, the UK could basically do the same thing since the Oxford vaccine and the new Novamax vaccines are being made in the UK... to the point the uk could have a vaccine surplus Also because the Pfizer vaccine cost 10 times the production costs of the Oxford vaccine... it could cost them a lot more to get the entire continent vaccinated " Many member states have not taken up their full allocation of the Pfizer vaccine, mainly due to cost. Whilst the EU places the orders and allocates vaccine shares, its upto member countries to pay. The AZ vaccine is a fifth of the cost of Pfzier. Basically, they all want the AZ vaccine. | |||
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"EU have dropped the ball on this one can’t help think it’s a thinly veiled deflection from being slow to the vaccine table. Make it look like someone else is to blame straight from the Uk politics playbook. I agree with the last part of your comment. What you don’t think they fucked up vaccinations? Difficult to tell. The Brexiteers will blame the bureaucrats, the red tape etc.. I think they were more careful approving vaccines for a start. Even Fauci said the same at the time. They have ordered more than 2 billion doses though I think. I don’t see Brexiteers come into to be honest certainly their blame is irrelevant. They ordered late and backed the wrong horse. They need a scapegoat. And I’m pro European. Yes backing the back horse has also got to do with it. Sanofi has clearly been a bad choice. I understand Sanofi going to produce the Pfizer vaccine now. As for the way the EU are reacting there’s no question than 4 years of wrangling with the U.K. on Brexit combined to the populist buffoon we have as PM is not helping. " Your view is crazy and is a discrace even by remoaner standards | |||
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"All this proves even more we are right to have left the EU they are a bunch of two faced lying bastards. We have kept the rules they break them load of dirty scumbags. Why would they give a shit what a leave voter thinks, in fact , why would they give a shit about what anyone in the UK thinks, we have left, get over it " Exactly, the U.K. has now become a third country. They don’t give a toss what our brexiters think. They defend their interests, full stop. It might be worth reminding a few people here that a few weeks ago, Bojo the saint threatened to use the Navy to deal with European fishermen. This will have not fallen on death ears on the other side of the Channel. Only one month since we completely left the EU and there are very serious tensions. It’s not as if people hadn’t been told before the referendum that one of the good things about the EU was to maintain peace and reasonable and fairly good relationships in Europe. Well, it didn’t take long for the people who were fearful to be proved right. | |||
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"EU have dropped the ball on this one can’t help think it’s a thinly veiled deflection from being slow to the vaccine table. Make it look like someone else is to blame straight from the Uk politics playbook. I agree with the last part of your comment. What you don’t think they fucked up vaccinations? Difficult to tell. The Brexiteers will blame the bureaucrats, the red tape etc.. I think they were more careful approving vaccines for a start. Even Fauci said the same at the time. They have ordered more than 2 billion doses though I think. I don’t see Brexiteers come into to be honest certainly their blame is irrelevant. They ordered late and backed the wrong horse. They need a scapegoat. And I’m pro European. Yes backing the back horse has also got to do with it. Sanofi has clearly been a bad choice. I understand Sanofi going to produce the Pfizer vaccine now. As for the way the EU are reacting there’s no question than 4 years of wrangling with the U.K. on Brexit combined to the populist buffoon we have as PM is not helping. Your view is crazy and is a discrace even by remoaner standards" I’d be worried if you agreed with me to be honest. It’s a badge of honour. | |||
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"I don’t think will find any of the old remainers defending this... and to be honest it’s a move that can backfire big time.... If the EU stop Pfizer vaccines coming into the uk, the UK could basically do the same thing since the Oxford vaccine and the new Novamax vaccines are being made in the UK... to the point the uk could have a vaccine surplus Also because the Pfizer vaccine cost 10 times the production costs of the Oxford vaccine... it could cost them a lot more to get the entire continent vaccinated Many member states have not taken up their full allocation of the Pfizer vaccine, mainly due to cost. Whilst the EU places the orders and allocates vaccine shares, its upto member countries to pay. The AZ vaccine is a fifth of the cost of Pfzier. Basically, they all want the AZ vaccine. " They would be better fixing the production problems in the EU rather than trying to take vaccines from the UK while at the same time denying anyone else. The news of the French company offering to produce phizer was a good sign I thought. Maybe they need more of that spirit | |||
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"I don’t think will find any of the old remainers defending this... and to be honest it’s a move that can backfire big time.... If the EU stop Pfizer vaccines coming into the uk, the UK could basically do the same thing since the Oxford vaccine and the new Novamax vaccines are being made in the UK... to the point the uk could have a vaccine surplus Also because the Pfizer vaccine cost 10 times the production costs of the Oxford vaccine... it could cost them a lot more to get the entire continent vaccinated " There was a spokesman on the news before trying to calm things down | |||
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"I don’t think will find any of the old remainers defending this... and to be honest it’s a move that can backfire big time.... If the EU stop Pfizer vaccines coming into the uk, the UK could basically do the same thing since the Oxford vaccine and the new Novamax vaccines are being made in the UK... to the point the uk could have a vaccine surplus Also because the Pfizer vaccine cost 10 times the production costs of the Oxford vaccine... it could cost them a lot more to get the entire continent vaccinated There was a spokesman on the news before trying to calm things down " There are also plenty of drugs coming from the EU which are not produced in the U.K. There were a lot of people in this country before Brexit who were dreading not getting life saving drugs. Nobody has got anything to gain from this. | |||
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"I don’t think will find any of the old remainers defending this... and to be honest it’s a move that can backfire big time.... If the EU stop Pfizer vaccines coming into the uk, the UK could basically do the same thing since the Oxford vaccine and the new Novamax vaccines are being made in the UK... to the point the uk could have a vaccine surplus Also because the Pfizer vaccine cost 10 times the production costs of the Oxford vaccine... it could cost them a lot more to get the entire continent vaccinated " I doubt the uk would do that we are not that petty. | |||
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"Looks like they are backtracking " Decision reversed..... right move | |||
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"I don’t think will find any of the old remainers defending this... and to be honest it’s a move that can backfire big time.... If the EU stop Pfizer vaccines coming into the uk, the UK could basically do the same thing since the Oxford vaccine and the new Novamax vaccines are being made in the UK... to the point the uk could have a vaccine surplus Also because the Pfizer vaccine cost 10 times the production costs of the Oxford vaccine... it could cost them a lot more to get the entire continent vaccinated I doubt the uk would do that we are not that petty." Of course we wouldn’t. We’re such nation full of Saints. Amazing how some people think that this country is beyond everybody morally. You only have to look at the morality of the guy in Downing Street to get the idea... | |||
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"Looks like they are backtracking Decision reversed..... right move " What the have done a U turn ? good decision. | |||
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"Looks like they are backtracking Decision reversed..... right move What the have done a U turn ? good decision. " Petty you said? | |||
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"Looks like they are backtracking Decision reversed..... right move What the have done a U turn ? good decision. Petty you said? " If they have they have been reading the forums lol | |||
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"... they don’t give a shit about the UK Except they clearly do. The Commission has made a complete pigs ear of the vaccination programme by being slow, inept and overly bureaucratic and we are making them look bad, so we have to be punished. " fully agree with you | |||
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"I don’t think will find any of the old remainers defending this... and to be honest it’s a move that can backfire big time.... If the EU stop Pfizer vaccines coming into the uk, the UK could basically do the same thing since the Oxford vaccine and the new Novamax vaccines are being made in the UK... to the point the uk could have a vaccine surplus Also because the Pfizer vaccine cost 10 times the production costs of the Oxford vaccine... it could cost them a lot more to get the entire continent vaccinated I doubt the uk would do that we are not that petty. Of course we wouldn’t. We’re such nation full of Saints. Amazing how some people think that this country is beyond everybody morally. You only have to look at the morality of the guy in Downing Street to get the idea... " We are in many ways a nation of children. A huge number of British people are absolutely devoted to the idea that Britain is always right 100% of the time, and that we are naturally superior at all times to silly foreigners. It's embarrassing. | |||
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"EU have dropped the ball on this one can’t help think it’s a thinly veiled deflection from being slow to the vaccine table. Make it look like someone else is to blame straight from the Uk politics playbook. I agree with the last part of your comment. What you don’t think they fucked up vaccinations? Even the WHO are critical of them. Wonder what Biden thinks of how they have treated Ireland" Truly astonishing with the WHO being critical, Sleepy Joe can't really disagree with them now he has signed back in with them. Or was he only against the UK putting a border across his beloved Ireland. In all my years, I would have never thought the political parties of Ireland North and South would be united by an act of true incompetence of the the EU. Lorries and supplies are tracked and batches are coded, clearly they don't trust AZ either. clearly they don't like the UK. Sour grapes, and it seems to hurt them more than the UK. Having read the APA that the EU released today, where they claimed that the AZ production plant in the UK was considered inside the EU, seriously now needs a rethink after putting a hard border across Ireland. Clearly they have serious shortcomings in understanding Irelands politics. | |||
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"... they don’t give a shit about the UK Except they clearly do. The Commission has made a complete pigs ear of the vaccination programme by being slow, inept and overly bureaucratic and we are making them look bad, so we have to be punished. fully agree with you " What’s this idea of constantly being punished by the EU??!! What’s this victimisation mode? I mean wake up everyone, the world is large. Other countries live and make decisions without giving a toss about the U.K. I know that some Brexiteers think that the U.K. is the centre of the universe but it’s not the case. Our neighbours are defending their own interests and those of their citizens. The U.K. is the least of their worries. | |||
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"EU have dropped the ball on this one can’t help think it’s a thinly veiled deflection from being slow to the vaccine table. Make it look like someone else is to blame straight from the Uk politics playbook. I agree with the last part of your comment. What you don’t think they fucked up vaccinations? Difficult to tell. The Brexiteers will blame the bureaucrats, the red tape etc.. I think they were more careful approving vaccines for a start. Even Fauci said the same at the time. They have ordered more than 2 billion doses though I think. I don’t see Brexiteers come into to be honest certainly their blame is irrelevant. They ordered late and backed the wrong horse. They need a scapegoat. And I’m pro European. Yes backing the back horse has also got to do with it. Sanofi has clearly been a bad choice. I understand Sanofi going to produce the Pfizer vaccine now. As for the way the EU are reacting there’s no question than 4 years of wrangling with the U.K. on Brexit combined to the populist buffoon we have as PM is not helping. Your view is crazy and is a discrace even by remoaner standards I’d be worried if you agreed with me to be honest. It’s a badge of honour. " I can second that, | |||
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"There's alot of hypocrisy going on.... Where? It looks like the EU have over reacted, we aren’t in the club anymore, you don’t give a shit about the EU , they don’t give a shit about the UK, sounds fair ?? They are certainly not happy We don’t know the reasons as yet? We aren’t trade allies anymore though , I know one thing for certain though, thins wouldn’t have happened if we hadn’t have left (this will trigger a few on here ) " If the eu started bombing us I think you'd argue it was all part of the game, but if Boris farts hes a pollution hazard breaking global rules on methane pollution lol your opinions are starting to lose credibility | |||
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"I don’t think will find any of the old remainers defending this... and to be honest it’s a move that can backfire big time.... If the EU stop Pfizer vaccines coming into the uk, the UK could basically do the same thing since the Oxford vaccine and the new Novamax vaccines are being made in the UK... to the point the uk could have a vaccine surplus Also because the Pfizer vaccine cost 10 times the production costs of the Oxford vaccine... it could cost them a lot more to get the entire continent vaccinated I doubt the uk would do that we are not that petty. Of course we wouldn’t. We’re such nation full of Saints. Amazing how some people think that this country is beyond everybody morally. You only have to look at the morality of the guy in Downing Street to get the idea... We are in many ways a nation of children. A huge number of British people are absolutely devoted to the idea that Britain is always right 100% of the time, and that we are naturally superior at all times to silly foreigners. It's embarrassing. " Brexiteers are literally creaming their pants with i told you so's Nice to see them not making political capital out of a virus. Certainly a big fuck up by the EU though. | |||
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"Looks like they are backtracking Decision reversed..... right move " Yep, the angry Brexit supporters can calm down now, nothing wrong with a U turn ?? | |||
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"I don’t think will find any of the old remainers defending this... and to be honest it’s a move that can backfire big time.... If the EU stop Pfizer vaccines coming into the uk, the UK could basically do the same thing since the Oxford vaccine and the new Novamax vaccines are being made in the UK... to the point the uk could have a vaccine surplus Also because the Pfizer vaccine cost 10 times the production costs of the Oxford vaccine... it could cost them a lot more to get the entire continent vaccinated I doubt the uk would do that we are not that petty. Of course we wouldn’t. We’re such nation full of Saints. Amazing how some people think that this country is beyond everybody morally. You only have to look at the morality of the guy in Downing Street to get the idea... We are in many ways a nation of children. A huge number of British people are absolutely devoted to the idea that Britain is always right 100% of the time, and that we are naturally superior at all times to silly foreigners. It's embarrassing. Brexiteers are literally creaming their pants with i told you so's Nice to see them not making political capital out of a virus. Certainly a big fuck up by the EU though. " A huge mistake but it was worth it to see the likes of Farage and his followers nearly explode with rage | |||
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"There's alot of hypocrisy going on.... Where? It looks like the EU have over reacted, we aren’t in the club anymore, you don’t give a shit about the EU , they don’t give a shit about the UK, sounds fair ?? They are certainly not happy We don’t know the reasons as yet? We aren’t trade allies anymore though , I know one thing for certain though, thins wouldn’t have happened if we hadn’t have left (this will trigger a few on here ) If the eu started bombing us I think you'd argue it was all part of the game, but if Boris farts hes a pollution hazard breaking global rules on methane pollution lol your opinions are starting to lose credibility " Pot, kettle, black | |||
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"I don’t think will find any of the old remainers defending this... and to be honest it’s a move that can backfire big time.... If the EU stop Pfizer vaccines coming into the uk, the UK could basically do the same thing since the Oxford vaccine and the new Novamax vaccines are being made in the UK... to the point the uk could have a vaccine surplus Also because the Pfizer vaccine cost 10 times the production costs of the Oxford vaccine... it could cost them a lot more to get the entire continent vaccinated I doubt the uk would do that we are not that petty. Of course we wouldn’t. We’re such nation full of Saints. Amazing how some people think that this country is beyond everybody morally. You only have to look at the morality of the guy in Downing Street to get the idea... We are in many ways a nation of children. A huge number of British people are absolutely devoted to the idea that Britain is always right 100% of the time, and that we are naturally superior at all times to silly foreigners. It's embarrassing. Brexiteers are literally creaming their pants with i told you so's Nice to see them not making political capital out of a virus. Certainly a big fuck up by the EU though. A huge mistake but it was worth it to see the likes of Farage and his followers nearly explode with rage " If you know anything about Irish politics you wouldn't say this was worth it. This is a very serious issue. No one actually gives a fuck about Farage. | |||
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"Well its nice to see for a change everyone agreeing that the eu fucked up big time and their U turn was the right thing to do.Will anyone carry the can for this or will it be brushed under the carpet?" Well, just relax a bit will you. I’ve just had a look at German, French and Danish newspapers, there’s not even a line on all this. They all talk about the Astrazaneca vaccine approved by the EU today and the difficulties with supplies as well as a row with Astrazaneca but it’s not WW3... Remember the U.K. and what happens at our borders doesn’t really interest the average continental person. It’s fair to say that people there don’t even have a clue about the sensitivity of the Irish border and probably do t give a toss. Van der Leyen’s head is not going roll because the Brexiteers and the DUP have got their gussets all wet for 20 minutes. | |||
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"There's alot of hypocrisy going on.... Where? It looks like the EU have over reacted, we aren’t in the club anymore, you don’t give a shit about the EU , they don’t give a shit about the UK, sounds fair ?? They are certainly not happy We don’t know the reasons as yet? We aren’t trade allies anymore though , I know one thing for certain though, thins wouldn’t have happened if we hadn’t have left (this will trigger a few on here ) If the eu started bombing us I think you'd argue it was all part of the game, but if Boris farts hes a pollution hazard breaking global rules on methane pollution lol your opinions are starting to lose credibility Pot, kettle, black " Not really and you know it | |||
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"I don’t think will find any of the old remainers defending this... and to be honest it’s a move that can backfire big time.... If the EU stop Pfizer vaccines coming into the uk, the UK could basically do the same thing since the Oxford vaccine and the new Novamax vaccines are being made in the UK... to the point the uk could have a vaccine surplus Also because the Pfizer vaccine cost 10 times the production costs of the Oxford vaccine... it could cost them a lot more to get the entire continent vaccinated I doubt the uk would do that we are not that petty. Of course we wouldn’t. We’re such nation full of Saints. Amazing how some people think that this country is beyond everybody morally. You only have to look at the morality of the guy in Downing Street to get the idea... We are in many ways a nation of children. A huge number of British people are absolutely devoted to the idea that Britain is always right 100% of the time, and that we are naturally superior at all times to silly foreigners. It's embarrassing. Brexiteers are literally creaming their pants with i told you so's Nice to see them not making political capital out of a virus. Certainly a big fuck up by the EU though. A huge mistake but it was worth it to see the likes of Farage and his followers nearly explode with rage If you know anything about Irish politics you wouldn't say this was worth it. This is a very serious issue. No one actually gives a fuck about Farage." The idiots who voted for him do. The EU eventually made the right decision, a u turn Boris would be proud off, watching some of the Brexit voters lose their shit before anything was confirmed was a joy to behold | |||
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"Looks like they are backtracking Decision reversed..... right move What the have done a U turn ? good decision. " Yep looking like it. Woman on sky reported that NI leaders phoned Ursula to remind d her that NI still exists and she was about to impose the very thing she argue against. Also mentioned was that forcing companies to change due to the contract would be virtually impossible in law and banning exports could mean the EU having to pay compensation. Hopefully they Will wake up in a better mood tomorrow | |||
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"And the whole world watches as the EU spits its dummy out. Doesn't do them any favours. Clearly they ordered late, approved late and now want everyone else's supply to make up for their incompetence. Worryingly, they can decide that if a factory in the UK makes something they need then they can claim it is part of the EU. If AZ had a factory in the USA would they also claim that as being in the EU and thus should supply them. Out of all this, even Barnier has seen the light and error of the EU, now that I didn't see coming from him. " So much aggravation... That’s what decades of rags like the Daily Express does to a country, as well as giving people an overblown sense of superior morality that comes across as sheer arrogance as soon as you live these shores and talk to foreigners. | |||
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"And the whole world watches as the EU spits its dummy out. Doesn't do them any favours. Clearly they ordered late, approved late and now want everyone else's supply to make up for their incompetence. Worryingly, they can decide that if a factory in the UK makes something they need then they can claim it is part of the EU. If AZ had a factory in the USA would they also claim that as being in the EU and thus should supply them. Out of all this, even Barnier has seen the light and error of the EU, now that I didn't see coming from him. " Just to clarify, what have the EU done? | |||
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"And the whole world watches as the EU spits its dummy out. Doesn't do them any favours. Clearly they ordered late, approved late and now want everyone else's supply to make up for their incompetence. Worryingly, they can decide that if a factory in the UK makes something they need then they can claim it is part of the EU. If AZ had a factory in the USA would they also claim that as being in the EU and thus should supply them. Out of all this, even Barnier has seen the light and error of the EU, now that I didn't see coming from him. Just to clarify, what have the EU done? " If you're about to argue 'they didn't actually do anything' I wouldn't bother | |||
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"And the whole world watches as the EU spits its dummy out. Doesn't do them any favours. Clearly they ordered late, approved late and now want everyone else's supply to make up for their incompetence. Worryingly, they can decide that if a factory in the UK makes something they need then they can claim it is part of the EU. If AZ had a factory in the USA would they also claim that as being in the EU and thus should supply them. Out of all this, even Barnier has seen the light and error of the EU, now that I didn't see coming from him. Just to clarify, what have the EU done? If you're about to argue 'they didn't actually do anything' I wouldn't bother " I will ask again, what have the EU done? | |||
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"And the whole world watches as the EU spits its dummy out. Doesn't do them any favours. Clearly they ordered late, approved late and now want everyone else's supply to make up for their incompetence. Worryingly, they can decide that if a factory in the UK makes something they need then they can claim it is part of the EU. If AZ had a factory in the USA would they also claim that as being in the EU and thus should supply them. Out of all this, even Barnier has seen the light and error of the EU, now that I didn't see coming from him. Just to clarify, what have the EU done? If you're about to argue 'they didn't actually do anything' I wouldn't bother I will ask again, what have the EU done? " They’ve pull a brexiteers’s tight g string from the back. | |||
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"And the whole world watches as the EU spits its dummy out. Doesn't do them any favours. Clearly they ordered late, approved late and now want everyone else's supply to make up for their incompetence. Worryingly, they can decide that if a factory in the UK makes something they need then they can claim it is part of the EU. If AZ had a factory in the USA would they also claim that as being in the EU and thus should supply them. Out of all this, even Barnier has seen the light and error of the EU, now that I didn't see coming from him. Just to clarify, what have the EU done? If you're about to argue 'they didn't actually do anything' I wouldn't bother I will ask again, what have the EU done? They’ve pull a brexiteers’s tight g string from the back. " And then twisted it for an hour | |||
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"Not sure if it's been said but Newsnight just reported a statement that they have backed down from the article 16.. Tbh I think they are in a bit of a flap probably entirely of their own making and are not looking like they know what to do.. " Yep they have backed down now All a bit of a mess really. Still finally brexiteers have got something to celebrate | |||
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"Not sure if it's been said but Newsnight just reported a statement that they have backed down from the article 16.. Tbh I think they are in a bit of a flap probably entirely of their own making and are not looking like they know what to do.. Yep they have backed down now All a bit of a mess really. Still finally brexiteers have got something to celebrate " Sort off, I doubt the Boris fanboys on here can criticise a U turn | |||
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"Not sure if it's been said but Newsnight just reported a statement that they have backed down from the article 16.. Tbh I think they are in a bit of a flap probably entirely of their own making and are not looking like they know what to do.. Yep they have backed down now All a bit of a mess really. Still finally brexiteers have got something to celebrate Sort off, I doubt the Boris fanboys on here can criticise a U turn " There was one on five live before saying The eu is killing people and we are saving lives... | |||
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"Not sure if it's been said but Newsnight just reported a statement that they have backed down from the article 16.. Tbh I think they are in a bit of a flap probably entirely of their own making and are not looking like they know what to do.. Yep they have backed down now All a bit of a mess really. Still finally brexiteers have got something to celebrate Sort off, I doubt the Boris fanboys on here can criticise a U turn There was one on five live before saying The eu is killing people and we are saving lives..." Was it Farage? Seriously though, it would have been a Brexiters wet dream if they had gone ahead with it, secretly they are gutted they did a U turn | |||
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"Not sure if it's been said but Newsnight just reported a statement that they have backed down from the article 16.. Tbh I think they are in a bit of a flap probably entirely of their own making and are not looking like they know what to do.. " Spanish minister playing down article 16 as simply a mistake and has now been repaired. Not sure it's going to be that easy for it to be brushed under the carpet... And of course the Eu 27 still have a huge issue with a woeful lack of vaccine doses | |||
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"Not sure if it's been said but Newsnight just reported a statement that they have backed down from the article 16.. Tbh I think they are in a bit of a flap probably entirely of their own making and are not looking like they know what to do.. Spanish minister playing down article 16 as simply a mistake and has now been repaired. Not sure it's going to be that easy for it to be brushed under the carpet... And of course the Eu 27 still have a huge issue with a woeful lack of vaccine doses " Actually, if I'm honest I think the Irish are gonna have more of an issue with this than anybody else. | |||
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"Not sure if it's been said but Newsnight just reported a statement that they have backed down from the article 16.. Tbh I think they are in a bit of a flap probably entirely of their own making and are not looking like they know what to do.. Spanish minister playing down article 16 as simply a mistake and has now been repaired. Not sure it's going to be that easy for it to be brushed under the carpet... And of course the Eu 27 still have a huge issue with a woeful lack of vaccine doses " Yes, it’s a mess, not sure what the situation is with Astra Zeneca, I have read they were expecting 300 million doses of them | |||
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"Not sure if it's been said but Newsnight just reported a statement that they have backed down from the article 16.. Tbh I think they are in a bit of a flap probably entirely of their own making and are not looking like they know what to do.. Yep they have backed down now All a bit of a mess really. Still finally brexiteers have got something to celebrate Sort off, I doubt the Boris fanboys on here can criticise a U turn There was one on five live before saying The eu is killing people and we are saving lives... Was it Farage? Seriously though, it would have been a Brexiters wet dream if they had gone ahead with it, secretly they are gutted they did a U turn " Nah some tory mp..I though he was going to have an aneurysm at one point..this is why we came out of the eu(they have obviously developed time travel abilities ) Still gives them something to cling onto. They will probably be having street parties tomorrow. | |||
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"Not sure if it's been said but Newsnight just reported a statement that they have backed down from the article 16.. Tbh I think they are in a bit of a flap probably entirely of their own making and are not looking like they know what to do.. Spanish minister playing down article 16 as simply a mistake and has now been repaired. Not sure it's going to be that easy for it to be brushed under the carpet... And of course the Eu 27 still have a huge issue with a woeful lack of vaccine doses " Well, if they’ve admitted their mistake, that’s a good thing. It’s another thing to the list of frictions between the U.K. and its neighbours though. -The French closing their border to lorries before Christmas -The threat to send the navy to sort out fishermen. -And now this. No doubt that Brexit has made our country safer and everything is going very smoothly between countries who five years were strong allies. Putin is laughing his head off probably. | |||
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"Not sure if it's been said but Newsnight just reported a statement that they have backed down from the article 16.. Tbh I think they are in a bit of a flap probably entirely of their own making and are not looking like they know what to do.. Yep they have backed down now All a bit of a mess really. Still finally brexiteers have got something to celebrate Sort off, I doubt the Boris fanboys on here can criticise a U turn There was one on five live before saying The eu is killing people and we are saving lives... Was it Farage? Seriously though, it would have been a Brexiters wet dream if they had gone ahead with it, secretly they are gutted they did a U turn Nah some tory mp..I though he was going to have an aneurysm at one point..this is why we came out of the eu(they have obviously developed time travel abilities ) Still gives them something to cling onto. They will probably be having street parties tomorrow. " So close to a ‘victory ‘ , | |||
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"Not sure if it's been said but Newsnight just reported a statement that they have backed down from the article 16.. Tbh I think they are in a bit of a flap probably entirely of their own making and are not looking like they know what to do.. Spanish minister playing down article 16 as simply a mistake and has now been repaired. Not sure it's going to be that easy for it to be brushed under the carpet... And of course the Eu 27 still have a huge issue with a woeful lack of vaccine doses Yes, it’s a mess, not sure what the situation is with Astra Zeneca, I have read they were expecting 300 million doses of them " Expecting 100million in first quarter, however this may be as low as 40million due to the production issues at the Belgian site. | |||
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"And the whole world watches as the EU spits its dummy out. Doesn't do them any favours. Clearly they ordered late, approved late and now want everyone else's supply to make up for their incompetence. Worryingly, they can decide that if a factory in the UK makes something they need then they can claim it is part of the EU. If AZ had a factory in the USA would they also claim that as being in the EU and thus should supply them. Out of all this, even Barnier has seen the light and error of the EU, now that I didn't see coming from him. Just to clarify, what have the EU done? If you're about to argue 'they didn't actually do anything' I wouldn't bother " Incorrect, they accused the UK of 'diverting' vaccine components to the UK AZ plant that the EU believe was destined for them. And thus the delay to the Belgium plant. | |||
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"Not sure if it's been said but Newsnight just reported a statement that they have backed down from the article 16.. Tbh I think they are in a bit of a flap probably entirely of their own making and are not looking like they know what to do.. Spanish minister playing down article 16 as simply a mistake and has now been repaired. Not sure it's going to be that easy for it to be brushed under the carpet... And of course the Eu 27 still have a huge issue with a woeful lack of vaccine doses Actually, if I'm honest I think the Irish are gonna have more of an issue with this than anybody else." Yes, particularly the unionists but Biden and the Irish Taesoch will be equally not pleased.. | |||
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"So England dont want us and now the EU dont want us lol Heaven forbid theres nothing like feeling like a cheap hooker thats been used as a bargaining chip in the brexit deal. EU hypocrisy exposed AGAIN no surprise fuck em all TAL " Not England mate, just the swivel eyed loons in the tory party for whom anyone is collateral.. Your not really alone in that group either.. | |||
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"And the whole world watches as the EU spits its dummy out. Doesn't do them any favours. Clearly they ordered late, approved late and now want everyone else's supply to make up for their incompetence. Worryingly, they can decide that if a factory in the UK makes something they need then they can claim it is part of the EU. If AZ had a factory in the USA would they also claim that as being in the EU and thus should supply them. Out of all this, even Barnier has seen the light and error of the EU, now that I didn't see coming from him. Just to clarify, what have the EU done? If you're about to argue 'they didn't actually do anything' I wouldn't bother I will ask again, what have the EU done? They’ve pull a brexiteers’s tight g string from the back. " You obviously do not understand the importance of the GFA to the whole of Ireland . | |||
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"And the whole world watches as the EU spits its dummy out. Doesn't do them any favours. Clearly they ordered late, approved late and now want everyone else's supply to make up for their incompetence. Worryingly, they can decide that if a factory in the UK makes something they need then they can claim it is part of the EU. If AZ had a factory in the USA would they also claim that as being in the EU and thus should supply them. Out of all this, even Barnier has seen the light and error of the EU, now that I didn't see coming from him. Just to clarify, what have the EU done? If you're about to argue 'they didn't actually do anything' I wouldn't bother Incorrect, they accused the UK of 'diverting' vaccine components to the UK AZ plant that the EU believe was destined for them. And thus the delay to the Belgium plant. " Link? | |||
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"It's telling that individual EU countries had to wade in and tell the Commission that they were wrong. Maybe this will focus a few minds and they will ask themselves, what really is the point of it? " Because of 1 mess up, they will question the while institution? Somehow I doubt it. | |||
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"There have been a load of cock ups, from the Euro and its roll out, to austerity, to the migrant crisis and Schengen, to Cameron and Brexit, to the Ukraine, to trade deals, or the lack of... etc etc, that's off the top of my head, the list goes on " Meanwhile in the perfect nirvana of ? No mistakes are ever made.. If we're going to point the finger of look at them fucking up that is like some gross hypocrites.. Surely in this sceptered isle we would be less so one would think.. | |||
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"There have been a load of cock ups, from the Euro and its roll out, to austerity, to the migrant crisis and Schengen, to Cameron and Brexit, to the Ukraine, to trade deals, or the lack of... etc etc, that's off the top of my head, the list goes on " Same old, same old. As said before, some people are very perceptive when it comes to see mistakes made by the EU but they are completely oblivious about the mess ups we have had here. Top of my head I could mention at least 50 things the U.K. has got wrong in the past year. People see what they want to see. No cock up with Cameron by the way. after 40 years of having to make exceptions for the U.K., they decided that enough was enough so they told him to get lost. And rightly so. You are either part of the EU or you’re not. In that respect I’m pleased we are out. Why should the U.K. be given special treatment? The euro can also be seen as a success in many ways. | |||
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"There have been a load of cock ups, from the Euro and its roll out, to austerity, to the migrant crisis and Schengen, to Cameron and Brexit, to the Ukraine, to trade deals, or the lack of... etc etc, that's off the top of my head, the list goes on " Brexit,The migrant crises and austerity are the fault of the eu? | |||
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"There have been a load of cock ups, from the Euro and its roll out, to austerity, to the migrant crisis and Schengen, to Cameron and Brexit, to the Ukraine, to trade deals, or the lack of... etc etc, that's off the top of my head, the list goes on Brexit,The migrant crises and austerity are the fault of the eu?" Licking Trump’s back side, shutting Parliament illegally, chumocracy, waiting times for operations in the NHS being so bad so we scrapped targets, also the EU. Took me 20 seconds for those. | |||
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"I see Hungary have got fed up waiting for the eu and approved the Chinese vaccine." Nice to see that you’re keeping up with the news. Any news about Spain’s position on Scotland rejoining the EU? | |||
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"I see Hungary have got fed up waiting for the eu and approved the Chinese vaccine. Nice to see that you’re keeping up with the news. Any news about Spain’s position on Scotland rejoining the EU? " yes i replied to that keep up bob | |||
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"I see Hungary have got fed up waiting for the eu and approved the Chinese vaccine. Nice to see that you’re keeping up with the news. Any news about Spain’s position on Scotland rejoining the EU? yes i replied to that keep up bob " Ah yes. Took you a day to try to wriggle out of a silly statement saying that Spain would never let the Scots join. We’ve gone from Spain will never let the Scots join to ‘they never said they wouldn’t’. It was worth taking a day to answer. | |||
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"There have been a load of cock ups, from the Euro and its roll out, to austerity, to the migrant crisis and Schengen, to Cameron and Brexit, to the Ukraine, to trade deals, or the lack of... etc etc, that's off the top of my head, the list goes on Brexit,The migrant crises and austerity are the fault of the eu? Licking Trump’s back side, shutting Parliament illegally, chumocracy, waiting times for operations in the NHS being so bad so we scrapped targets, also the EU. Took me 20 seconds for those. " You're banging on about the UKs wrongs but Silver never said the UK didn't do wrong. Your mate over there in the corner said the EU made '1 fuck up', which isn't true. It's the same old shit with any EU fan. As soon as a Leave voter says anything the answer is 'well we've done bad too'. Yeah, we know. No one said the UK haven't | |||
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"I see Hungary have got fed up waiting for the eu and approved the Chinese vaccine. Nice to see that you’re keeping up with the news. Any news about Spain’s position on Scotland rejoining the EU? yes i replied to that keep up bob Ah yes. Took you a day to try to wriggle out of a silly statement saying that Spain would never let the Scots join. We’ve gone from Spain will never let the Scots join to ‘they never said they wouldn’t’. It was worth taking a day to answer. " Im not like you mate i have other things to do and what with the recent enforced holidays im receiving lately for no reason its not always possible, but it dos give me pleasure knowing people want to shut you down as they have no counter argument.Happy days. | |||
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"There have been a load of cock ups, from the Euro and its roll out, to austerity, to the migrant crisis and Schengen, to Cameron and Brexit, to the Ukraine, to trade deals, or the lack of... etc etc, that's off the top of my head, the list goes on Brexit,The migrant crises and austerity are the fault of the eu? Licking Trump’s back side, shutting Parliament illegally, chumocracy, waiting times for operations in the NHS being so bad so we scrapped targets, also the EU. Took me 20 seconds for those. You're banging on about the UKs wrongs but Silver never said the UK didn't do wrong. Your mate over there in the corner said the EU made '1 fuck up', which isn't true. It's the same old shit with any EU fan. As soon as a Leave voter says anything the answer is 'well we've done bad too'. Yeah, we know. No one said the UK haven't " Thanks I can't be arsed to reply to them any more | |||
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"There have been a load of cock ups, from the Euro and its roll out, to austerity, to the migrant crisis and Schengen, to Cameron and Brexit, to the Ukraine, to trade deals, or the lack of... etc etc, that's off the top of my head, the list goes on Brexit,The migrant crises and austerity are the fault of the eu? Licking Trump’s back side, shutting Parliament illegally, chumocracy, waiting times for operations in the NHS being so bad so we scrapped targets, also the EU. Took me 20 seconds for those. You're banging on about the UKs wrongs but Silver never said the UK didn't do wrong. Your mate over there in the corner said the EU made '1 fuck up', which isn't true. It's the same old shit with any EU fan. As soon as a Leave voter says anything the answer is 'well we've done bad too'. Yeah, we know. No one said the UK haven't " Interesting view. Personally when I teach other people lessons and tell them they’re crap, I make sure I’m credible and that I look at my own backyard first. I never said the EU was perfect personally but considering the clowns we’ve had for ten years and the countless shocking decisions they’ve made, I think it is worth reminding the leavers that things are not rosey here. | |||
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"There have been a load of cock ups, from the Euro and its roll out, to austerity, to the migrant crisis and Schengen, to Cameron and Brexit, to the Ukraine, to trade deals, or the lack of... etc etc, that's off the top of my head, the list goes on Brexit,The migrant crises and austerity are the fault of the eu? Licking Trump’s back side, shutting Parliament illegally, chumocracy, waiting times for operations in the NHS being so bad so we scrapped targets, also the EU. Took me 20 seconds for those. You're banging on about the UKs wrongs but Silver never said the UK didn't do wrong. Your mate over there in the corner said the EU made '1 fuck up', which isn't true. It's the same old shit with any EU fan. As soon as a Leave voter says anything the answer is 'well we've done bad too'. Yeah, we know. No one said the UK haven't Interesting view. Personally when I teach other people lessons and tell them they’re crap, I make sure I’m credible and that I look at my own backyard first. I never said the EU was perfect personally but considering the clowns we’ve had for ten years and the countless shocking decisions they’ve made, I think it is worth reminding the leavers that things are not rosey here. " As I said WE KNOW. I'm pretty sure I've never seen a leave voter in here say that the UK have never made mistakes. As I said, every single time without fail that the EU are criticised the go to comeback is 'UK aren't perfect' It's petulance at it's finest | |||
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"I see Hungary have got fed up waiting for the eu and approved the Chinese vaccine. Nice to see that you’re keeping up with the news. Any news about Spain’s position on Scotland rejoining the EU? yes i replied to that keep up bob Ah yes. Took you a day to try to wriggle out of a silly statement saying that Spain would never let the Scots join. We’ve gone from Spain will never let the Scots join to ‘they never said they wouldn’t’. It was worth taking a day to answer. Im not like you mate i have other things to do and what with the recent enforced holidays im receiving lately for no reason its not always possible, but it dos give me pleasure knowing people want to shut you down as they have no counter argument.Happy days. " We have missed you. Glad to see you’re busy and that the painful waiting is over. | |||
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"There have been a load of cock ups, from the Euro and its roll out, to austerity, to the migrant crisis and Schengen, to Cameron and Brexit, to the Ukraine, to trade deals, or the lack of... etc etc, that's off the top of my head, the list goes on Brexit,The migrant crises and austerity are the fault of the eu? Licking Trump’s back side, shutting Parliament illegally, chumocracy, waiting times for operations in the NHS being so bad so we scrapped targets, also the EU. Took me 20 seconds for those. You're banging on about the UKs wrongs but Silver never said the UK didn't do wrong. Your mate over there in the corner said the EU made '1 fuck up', which isn't true. It's the same old shit with any EU fan. As soon as a Leave voter says anything the answer is 'well we've done bad too'. Yeah, we know. No one said the UK haven't Interesting view. Personally when I teach other people lessons and tell them they’re crap, I make sure I’m credible and that I look at my own backyard first. I never said the EU was perfect personally but considering the clowns we’ve had for ten years and the countless shocking decisions they’ve made, I think it is worth reminding the leavers that things are not rosey here. As I said WE KNOW. I'm pretty sure I've never seen a leave voter in here say that the UK have never made mistakes. As I said, every single time without fail that the EU are criticised the go to comeback is 'UK aren't perfect' It's petulance at it's finest" It might be the case for you. but not the person I was responding to. Never has he admitted any mistakes made by his beloved tories. Shall we try to ask him what he thinks the tories have done wrong in the past ten years? | |||
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"I see Hungary have got fed up waiting for the eu and approved the Chinese vaccine. Nice to see that you’re keeping up with the news. Any news about Spain’s position on Scotland rejoining the EU? yes i replied to that keep up bob Ah yes. Took you a day to try to wriggle out of a silly statement saying that Spain would never let the Scots join. We’ve gone from Spain will never let the Scots join to ‘they never said they wouldn’t’. It was worth taking a day to answer. Im not like you mate i have other things to do and what with the recent enforced holidays im receiving lately for no reason its not always possible, but it dos give me pleasure knowing people want to shut you down as they have no counter argument.Happy days. We have missed you. Glad to see you’re busy and that the painful waiting is over. " Painful you must have a very sad life if this forum is all you have.As i have said every time it happens i know i have won the argument bob. | |||
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"There have been a load of cock ups, from the Euro and its roll out, to austerity, to the migrant crisis and Schengen, to Cameron and Brexit, to the Ukraine, to trade deals, or the lack of... etc etc, that's off the top of my head, the list goes on Brexit,The migrant crises and austerity are the fault of the eu? Licking Trump’s back side, shutting Parliament illegally, chumocracy, waiting times for operations in the NHS being so bad so we scrapped targets, also the EU. Took me 20 seconds for those. You're banging on about the UKs wrongs but Silver never said the UK didn't do wrong. Your mate over there in the corner said the EU made '1 fuck up', which isn't true. It's the same old shit with any EU fan. As soon as a Leave voter says anything the answer is 'well we've done bad too'. Yeah, we know. No one said the UK haven't Interesting view. Personally when I teach other people lessons and tell them they’re crap, I make sure I’m credible and that I look at my own backyard first. I never said the EU was perfect personally but considering the clowns we’ve had for ten years and the countless shocking decisions they’ve made, I think it is worth reminding the leavers that things are not rosey here. As I said WE KNOW. I'm pretty sure I've never seen a leave voter in here say that the UK have never made mistakes. As I said, every single time without fail that the EU are criticised the go to comeback is 'UK aren't perfect' It's petulance at it's finest It might be the case for you. but not the person I was responding to. Never has he admitted any mistakes made by his beloved tories. Shall we try to ask him what he thinks the tories have done wrong in the past ten years? " What difference does it make that the Tories have made mistakes? Just as every single political party around the world has. The point stands anyway, I'm out | |||
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"In PMQs a fortnight ago Johnson threatened to invoke Article 16 himself in relation to the supermarket supply problems caused by brexit. Is it OK when we do it but not when the EU do it? " Ssshhhh You are ruining their moment of glory. | |||
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"There have been a load of cock ups, from the Euro and its roll out, to austerity, to the migrant crisis and Schengen, to Cameron and Brexit, to the Ukraine, to trade deals, or the lack of... etc etc, that's off the top of my head, the list goes on Brexit,The migrant crises and austerity are the fault of the eu? Licking Trump’s back side, shutting Parliament illegally, chumocracy, waiting times for operations in the NHS being so bad so we scrapped targets, also the EU. Took me 20 seconds for those. You're banging on about the UKs wrongs but Silver never said the UK didn't do wrong. Your mate over there in the corner said the EU made '1 fuck up', which isn't true. It's the same old shit with any EU fan. As soon as a Leave voter says anything the answer is 'well we've done bad too'. Yeah, we know. No one said the UK haven't Interesting view. Personally when I teach other people lessons and tell them they’re crap, I make sure I’m credible and that I look at my own backyard first. I never said the EU was perfect personally but considering the clowns we’ve had for ten years and the countless shocking decisions they’ve made, I think it is worth reminding the leavers that things are not rosey here. As I said WE KNOW. I'm pretty sure I've never seen a leave voter in here say that the UK have never made mistakes. As I said, every single time without fail that the EU are criticised the go to comeback is 'UK aren't perfect' It's petulance at it's finest" | |||
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"There have been a load of cock ups, from the Euro and its roll out, to austerity, to the migrant crisis and Schengen, to Cameron and Brexit, to the Ukraine, to trade deals, or the lack of... etc etc, that's off the top of my head, the list goes on Brexit,The migrant crises and austerity are the fault of the eu?" Yes, yes, partly. | |||
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"It's almost like the vaccine is being used to divert attention away from the utter car crash, that has preceded it." Dead right there: "However, the dispute is viewed by some critics as an attempt by Brussels to distract attention from its sluggish vaccination rollout as the UK races ahead". | |||
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"It's almost like the vaccine is being used to divert attention away from the utter car crash, that has preceded it. Dead right there: "However, the dispute is viewed by some critics as an attempt by Brussels to distract attention from its sluggish vaccination rollout as the UK races ahead"." | |||
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"I see Hungary have got fed up waiting for the eu and approved the Chinese vaccine." Which they are allowed to do ?? | |||
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"It's almost like the vaccine is being used to divert attention away from the utter car crash, that has preceded it. Dead right there: "However, the dispute is viewed by some critics as an attempt by Brussels to distract attention from its sluggish vaccination rollout as the UK races ahead"." its not a good look for them to see the UK doing so well on this. They know they have to push the blame elsewhere. | |||
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"It's almost like the vaccine is being used to divert attention away from the utter car crash, that has preceded it. Dead right there: "However, the dispute is viewed by some critics as an attempt by Brussels to distract attention from its sluggish vaccination rollout as the UK races ahead". its not a good look for them to see the UK doing so well on this. They know they have to push the blame elsewhere. " The people of the eu and various governments are not stupid they can see its a deflection from how the commission has dealt with being so slow.More ammunition for the likes of le penn and other anti eu politicians. | |||
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"It's almost like the vaccine is being used to divert attention away from the utter car crash, that has preceded it. Dead right there: "However, the dispute is viewed by some critics as an attempt by Brussels to distract attention from its sluggish vaccination rollout as the UK races ahead". its not a good look for them to see the UK doing so well on this. They know they have to push the blame elsewhere. " I doubt that's even crossed their mind. | |||
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"It's almost like the vaccine is being used to divert attention away from the utter car crash, that has preceded it. Dead right there: "However, the dispute is viewed by some critics as an attempt by Brussels to distract attention from its sluggish vaccination rollout as the UK races ahead". its not a good look for them to see the UK doing so well on this. They know they have to push the blame elsewhere. I doubt that's even crossed their mind." Oh, yes it is . . . "Ms von der Leyen tweeted late on Friday that she'd held "constructive talks" with Mr Johnson". | |||
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"It's almost like the vaccine is being used to divert attention away from the utter car crash, that has preceded it. Dead right there: "However, the dispute is viewed by some critics as an attempt by Brussels to distract attention from its sluggish vaccination rollout as the UK races ahead". its not a good look for them to see the UK doing so well on this. They know they have to push the blame elsewhere. I doubt that's even crossed their mind." It would of been one of the first things the EU thought to blame it on (the UK), but unlike yourself & others on here not all the people of Europe will fall for it Lionel x The EU can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all the time, but the EU cannot fool all the people all the time. x | |||
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"It's almost like the vaccine is being used to divert attention away from the utter car crash, that has preceded it. Dead right there: "However, the dispute is viewed by some critics as an attempt by Brussels to distract attention from its sluggish vaccination rollout as the UK races ahead". its not a good look for them to see the UK doing so well on this. They know they have to push the blame elsewhere. I doubt that's even crossed their mind. Oh, yes it is . . . "Ms von der Leyen tweeted late on Friday that she'd held "constructive talks" with Mr Johnson". " That hardly means they are blaming the uk Their ire is directed towards Pfizer. | |||
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"It's almost like the vaccine is being used to divert attention away from the utter car crash, that has preceded it. Dead right there: "However, the dispute is viewed by some critics as an attempt by Brussels to distract attention from its sluggish vaccination rollout as the UK races ahead". its not a good look for them to see the UK doing so well on this. They know they have to push the blame elsewhere. I doubt that's even crossed their mind. Oh, yes it is . . . "Ms von der Leyen tweeted late on Friday that she'd held "constructive talks" with Mr Johnson". " Maybe she was just asking his advice on how to draw up proper contracts. | |||
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"It's almost like the vaccine is being used to divert attention away from the utter car crash, that has preceded it. Dead right there: "However, the dispute is viewed by some critics as an attempt by Brussels to distract attention from its sluggish vaccination rollout as the UK races ahead". its not a good look for them to see the UK doing so well on this. They know they have to push the blame elsewhere. I doubt that's even crossed their mind. It would of been one of the first things the EU thought to blame it on (the UK), but unlike yourself & others on here not all the people of Europe will fall for it Lionel x The EU can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all the time, but the EU cannot fool all the people all the time. x" I think what has been quite noticeable that everyone has acknowledged the eu has fucked up. A far cry from when boris does | |||
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"It's almost like the vaccine is being used to divert attention away from the utter car crash, that has preceded it. Dead right there: "However, the dispute is viewed by some critics as an attempt by Brussels to distract attention from its sluggish vaccination rollout as the UK races ahead". its not a good look for them to see the UK doing so well on this. They know they have to push the blame elsewhere. " I think your putting to much emphasis on ‘how well the UK are doing ‘ the vaccine rollout is a marathon not a sprint. It is amazing how some of the anti EU posters are quick to compare the vaccine with the EU but totally ignore the number of deaths . | |||
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"It's almost like the vaccine is being used to divert attention away from the utter car crash, that has preceded it. Dead right there: "However, the dispute is viewed by some critics as an attempt by Brussels to distract attention from its sluggish vaccination rollout as the UK races ahead". its not a good look for them to see the UK doing so well on this. They know they have to push the blame elsewhere. I think your putting to much emphasis on ‘how well the UK are doing ‘ the vaccine rollout is a marathon not a sprint. It is amazing how some of the anti EU posters are quick to compare the vaccine with the EU but totally ignore the number of deaths . " It's almost like they are trying to get people to forget about that minor inconvenience. | |||
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"It's almost like the vaccine is being used to divert attention away from the utter car crash, that has preceded it. Dead right there: "However, the dispute is viewed by some critics as an attempt by Brussels to distract attention from its sluggish vaccination rollout as the UK races ahead". its not a good look for them to see the UK doing so well on this. They know they have to push the blame elsewhere. I think your putting to much emphasis on ‘how well the UK are doing ‘ the vaccine rollout is a marathon not a sprint. It is amazing how some of the anti EU posters are quick to compare the vaccine with the EU but totally ignore the number of deaths . It's almost like they are trying to get people to forget about that minor inconvenience. " Indeed, there is no excuse for what the EU tried to do last night and I think we can agree that revoking article 16 is a bad idea (something that Boris said he would have ‘no hesitation’ in doing, 2 weeks ago in parliament . | |||
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"It's almost like the vaccine is being used to divert attention away from the utter car crash, that has preceded it. Dead right there: "However, the dispute is viewed by some critics as an attempt by Brussels to distract attention from its sluggish vaccination rollout as the UK races ahead". its not a good look for them to see the UK doing so well on this. They know they have to push the blame elsewhere. I think your putting to much emphasis on ‘how well the UK are doing ‘ the vaccine rollout is a marathon not a sprint. It is amazing how some of the anti EU posters are quick to compare the vaccine with the EU but totally ignore the number of deaths . " Would help if the number of death figures were reliable for each country but they are far from it, our own figure is based on if they had a positive test in the last 28 days, so not all those deaths will be from covid in that 28 days but they are all counted as such. No idea how other countries are recording there figures but I would assume there's are also not 100% correct either. It will be a few years before any country can truly know how many died from this horrendous disease. | |||
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"It's almost like the vaccine is being used to divert attention away from the utter car crash, that has preceded it. Dead right there: "However, the dispute is viewed by some critics as an attempt by Brussels to distract attention from its sluggish vaccination rollout as the UK races ahead". its not a good look for them to see the UK doing so well on this. They know they have to push the blame elsewhere. I doubt that's even crossed their mind. Oh, yes it is . . . "Ms von der Leyen tweeted late on Friday that she'd held "constructive talks" with Mr Johnson". Maybe she was just asking his advice on how to draw up proper contracts. " lol - Could do with the practice. | |||
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"It's almost like the vaccine is being used to divert attention away from the utter car crash, that has preceded it. Dead right there: "However, the dispute is viewed by some critics as an attempt by Brussels to distract attention from its sluggish vaccination rollout as the UK races ahead". its not a good look for them to see the UK doing so well on this. They know they have to push the blame elsewhere. I think your putting to much emphasis on ‘how well the UK are doing ‘ the vaccine rollout is a marathon not a sprint. It is amazing how some of the anti EU posters are quick to compare the vaccine with the EU but totally ignore the number of deaths . Would help if the number of death figures were reliable for each country but they are far from it, our own figure is based on if they had a positive test in the last 28 days, so not all those deaths will be from covid in that 28 days but they are all counted as such. No idea how other countries are recording there figures but I would assume there's are also not 100% correct either. It will be a few years before any country can truly know how many died from this horrendous disease." It is a global pandemic and they are global vaccines, once every person in the world is vaccinated then we can start to relax, until then the comparisons between countries is pointless | |||
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"It's almost like the vaccine is being used to divert attention away from the utter car crash, that has preceded it. Dead right there: "However, the dispute is viewed by some critics as an attempt by Brussels to distract attention from its sluggish vaccination rollout as the UK races ahead". its not a good look for them to see the UK doing so well on this. They know they have to push the blame elsewhere. I doubt that's even crossed their mind. Oh, yes it is . . . "Ms von der Leyen tweeted late on Friday that she'd held "constructive talks" with Mr Johnson". " I think the UK doing well has been a catalyst for their actions. If the UK was in the same state or worse it would not be so much of a problem for them but to see the UK doing well is a red rag to a bull. I don't understand the argument that because the UK made mistakes it means others mistakes can't be pointed out. If that were true no one could ever discuss mistakes again | |||
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"It's almost like the vaccine is being used to divert attention away from the utter car crash, that has preceded it. Dead right there: "However, the dispute is viewed by some critics as an attempt by Brussels to distract attention from its sluggish vaccination rollout as the UK races ahead". its not a good look for them to see the UK doing so well on this. They know they have to push the blame elsewhere. I doubt that's even crossed their mind. Oh, yes it is . . . "Ms von der Leyen tweeted late on Friday that she'd held "constructive talks" with Mr Johnson". I think the UK doing well has been a catalyst for their actions. If the UK was in the same state or worse it would not be so much of a problem for them but to see the UK doing well is a red rag to a bull. I don't understand the argument that because the UK made mistakes it means others mistakes can't be pointed out. If that were true no one could ever discuss mistakes again" Where has the eu criticised the uk? | |||
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"It's almost like the vaccine is being used to divert attention away from the utter car crash, that has preceded it. Dead right there: "However, the dispute is viewed by some critics as an attempt by Brussels to distract attention from its sluggish vaccination rollout as the UK races ahead". its not a good look for them to see the UK doing so well on this. They know they have to push the blame elsewhere. I doubt that's even crossed their mind. Oh, yes it is . . . "Ms von der Leyen tweeted late on Friday that she'd held "constructive talks" with Mr Johnson". I think the UK doing well has been a catalyst for their actions. If the UK was in the same state or worse it would not be so much of a problem for them but to see the UK doing well is a red rag to a bull. I don't understand the argument that because the UK made mistakes it means others mistakes can't be pointed out. If that were true no one could ever discuss mistakes again Where has the eu criticised the uk?" Read it for yourself: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55865539 | |||
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"It's almost like the vaccine is being used to divert attention away from the utter car crash, that has preceded it. Dead right there: "However, the dispute is viewed by some critics as an attempt by Brussels to distract attention from its sluggish vaccination rollout as the UK races ahead". its not a good look for them to see the UK doing so well on this. They know they have to push the blame elsewhere. I doubt that's even crossed their mind. Oh, yes it is . . . "Ms von der Leyen tweeted late on Friday that she'd held "constructive talks" with Mr Johnson". I think the UK doing well has been a catalyst for their actions. If the UK was in the same state or worse it would not be so much of a problem for them but to see the UK doing well is a red rag to a bull. I don't understand the argument that because the UK made mistakes it means others mistakes can't be pointed out. If that were true no one could ever discuss mistakes again Where has the eu criticised the uk?" When did I say they had? | |||
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"It's almost like the vaccine is being used to divert attention away from the utter car crash, that has preceded it. Dead right there: "However, the dispute is viewed by some critics as an attempt by Brussels to distract attention from its sluggish vaccination rollout as the UK races ahead". its not a good look for them to see the UK doing so well on this. They know they have to push the blame elsewhere. I doubt that's even crossed their mind. Oh, yes it is . . . "Ms von der Leyen tweeted late on Friday that she'd held "constructive talks" with Mr Johnson". I think the UK doing well has been a catalyst for their actions. If the UK was in the same state or worse it would not be so much of a problem for them but to see the UK doing well is a red rag to a bull. I don't understand the argument that because the UK made mistakes it means others mistakes can't be pointed out. If that were true no one could ever discuss mistakes again Where has the eu criticised the uk? Read it for yourself: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55865539 " Are they still going ahead with that? | |||
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"It's almost like the vaccine is being used to divert attention away from the utter car crash, that has preceded it. Dead right there: "However, the dispute is viewed by some critics as an attempt by Brussels to distract attention from its sluggish vaccination rollout as the UK races ahead". its not a good look for them to see the UK doing so well on this. They know they have to push the blame elsewhere. I doubt that's even crossed their mind. Oh, yes it is . . . "Ms von der Leyen tweeted late on Friday that she'd held "constructive talks" with Mr Johnson". I think the UK doing well has been a catalyst for their actions. If the UK was in the same state or worse it would not be so much of a problem for them but to see the UK doing well is a red rag to a bull. I don't understand the argument that because the UK made mistakes it means others mistakes can't be pointed out. If that were true no one could ever discuss mistakes again Where has the eu criticised the uk? When did I say they had?" You said they had to push the blame somewhere else? | |||
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"It's almost like the vaccine is being used to divert attention away from the utter car crash, that has preceded it. Dead right there: "However, the dispute is viewed by some critics as an attempt by Brussels to distract attention from its sluggish vaccination rollout as the UK races ahead". its not a good look for them to see the UK doing so well on this. They know they have to push the blame elsewhere. I doubt that's even crossed their mind. Oh, yes it is . . . "Ms von der Leyen tweeted late on Friday that she'd held "constructive talks" with Mr Johnson". I think the UK doing well has been a catalyst for their actions. If the UK was in the same state or worse it would not be so much of a problem for them but to see the UK doing well is a red rag to a bull. I don't understand the argument that because the UK made mistakes it means others mistakes can't be pointed out. If that were true no one could ever discuss mistakes again" Ah. See mistakes are only to be pointed out when it's someone else making them. Doing well is never to be pointed out if your politics doesn't suit that frame of reference. | |||
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"The pm who hides in fridges to avoid answering questions and didnt know Wigan was in Lancashire is now a byword for attention to detail and organisation. " And the man who has made at least 11 U turns in the last 12 months | |||
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"It's almost like the vaccine is being used to divert attention away from the utter car crash, that has preceded it. Dead right there: "However, the dispute is viewed by some critics as an attempt by Brussels to distract attention from its sluggish vaccination rollout as the UK races ahead". its not a good look for them to see the UK doing so well on this. They know they have to push the blame elsewhere. I doubt that's even crossed their mind. Oh, yes it is . . . "Ms von der Leyen tweeted late on Friday that she'd held "constructive talks" with Mr Johnson". I think the UK doing well has been a catalyst for their actions. If the UK was in the same state or worse it would not be so much of a problem for them but to see the UK doing well is a red rag to a bull. I don't understand the argument that because the UK made mistakes it means others mistakes can't be pointed out. If that were true no one could ever discuss mistakes again Where has the eu criticised the uk? Read it for yourself: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55865539 Are they still going ahead with that?" Oh Okay then it's a non story - everybody back to bed. | |||
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"It's almost like the vaccine is being used to divert attention away from the utter car crash, that has preceded it. Dead right there: "However, the dispute is viewed by some critics as an attempt by Brussels to distract attention from its sluggish vaccination rollout as the UK races ahead". its not a good look for them to see the UK doing so well on this. They know they have to push the blame elsewhere. I doubt that's even crossed their mind. Oh, yes it is . . . "Ms von der Leyen tweeted late on Friday that she'd held "constructive talks" with Mr Johnson". I think the UK doing well has been a catalyst for their actions. If the UK was in the same state or worse it would not be so much of a problem for them but to see the UK doing well is a red rag to a bull. I don't understand the argument that because the UK made mistakes it means others mistakes can't be pointed out. If that were true no one could ever discuss mistakes again Where has the eu criticised the uk? When did I say they had? You said they had to push the blame somewhere else?" Did I say the UK | |||
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"It's almost like the vaccine is being used to divert attention away from the utter car crash, that has preceded it. Dead right there: "However, the dispute is viewed by some critics as an attempt by Brussels to distract attention from its sluggish vaccination rollout as the UK races ahead". its not a good look for them to see the UK doing so well on this. They know they have to push the blame elsewhere. I think your putting to much emphasis on ‘how well the UK are doing ‘ the vaccine rollout is a marathon not a sprint. It is amazing how some of the anti EU posters are quick to compare the vaccine with the EU but totally ignore the number of deaths . It's almost like they are trying to get people to forget about that minor inconvenience. Indeed, there is no excuse for what the EU tried to do last night and I think we can agree that revoking article 16 is a bad idea (something that Boris said he would have ‘no hesitation’ in doing, 2 weeks ago in parliament . " Again, this would be an appropriate time for remainers to make a rather fuller apology to the country than they’ve managed so far. | |||
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"It's almost like the vaccine is being used to divert attention away from the utter car crash, that has preceded it. Dead right there: "However, the dispute is viewed by some critics as an attempt by Brussels to distract attention from its sluggish vaccination rollout as the UK races ahead". its not a good look for them to see the UK doing so well on this. They know they have to push the blame elsewhere. I doubt that's even crossed their mind. Oh, yes it is . . . "Ms von der Leyen tweeted late on Friday that she'd held "constructive talks" with Mr Johnson". I think the UK doing well has been a catalyst for their actions. If the UK was in the same state or worse it would not be so much of a problem for them but to see the UK doing well is a red rag to a bull. I don't understand the argument that because the UK made mistakes it means others mistakes can't be pointed out. If that were true no one could ever discuss mistakes again Where has the eu criticised the uk? Read it for yourself: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55865539 Are they still going ahead with that? Oh Okay then it's a non story - everybody back to bed. " It was a serious mistake and an immediate U turn, at least it wasn’t prolonged for a while . I am sure the Tory and Boris supporters can sympathise with what happened?? | |||
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"It's almost like the vaccine is being used to divert attention away from the utter car crash, that has preceded it. Dead right there: "However, the dispute is viewed by some critics as an attempt by Brussels to distract attention from its sluggish vaccination rollout as the UK races ahead". its not a good look for them to see the UK doing so well on this. They know they have to push the blame elsewhere. I think your putting to much emphasis on ‘how well the UK are doing ‘ the vaccine rollout is a marathon not a sprint. It is amazing how some of the anti EU posters are quick to compare the vaccine with the EU but totally ignore the number of deaths . It's almost like they are trying to get people to forget about that minor inconvenience. Indeed, there is no excuse for what the EU tried to do last night and I think we can agree that revoking article 16 is a bad idea (something that Boris said he would have ‘no hesitation’ in doing, 2 weeks ago in parliament . Again, this would be an appropriate time for remainers to make a rather fuller apology to the country than they’ve managed so far. " What are they apologising for and who are they apologising to? | |||
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"It's almost like the vaccine is being used to divert attention away from the utter car crash, that has preceded it. Dead right there: "However, the dispute is viewed by some critics as an attempt by Brussels to distract attention from its sluggish vaccination rollout as the UK races ahead". its not a good look for them to see the UK doing so well on this. They know they have to push the blame elsewhere. I think your putting to much emphasis on ‘how well the UK are doing ‘ the vaccine rollout is a marathon not a sprint. It is amazing how some of the anti EU posters are quick to compare the vaccine with the EU but totally ignore the number of deaths . It's almost like they are trying to get people to forget about that minor inconvenience. Indeed, there is no excuse for what the EU tried to do last night and I think we can agree that revoking article 16 is a bad idea (something that Boris said he would have ‘no hesitation’ in doing, 2 weeks ago in parliament . Again, this would be an appropriate time for remainers to make a rather fuller apology to the country than they’ve managed so far. What are they apologising for and who are they apologising to? " For continuing to support the obvious corruption and waste of Brussels despite all the evidence. | |||
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"It's almost like the vaccine is being used to divert attention away from the utter car crash, that has preceded it. Dead right there: "However, the dispute is viewed by some critics as an attempt by Brussels to distract attention from its sluggish vaccination rollout as the UK races ahead". its not a good look for them to see the UK doing so well on this. They know they have to push the blame elsewhere. I think your putting to much emphasis on ‘how well the UK are doing ‘ the vaccine rollout is a marathon not a sprint. It is amazing how some of the anti EU posters are quick to compare the vaccine with the EU but totally ignore the number of deaths . It's almost like they are trying to get people to forget about that minor inconvenience. Indeed, there is no excuse for what the EU tried to do last night and I think we can agree that revoking article 16 is a bad idea (something that Boris said he would have ‘no hesitation’ in doing, 2 weeks ago in parliament . Again, this would be an appropriate time for remainers to make a rather fuller apology to the country than they’ve managed so far. What are they apologising for and who are they apologising to? For continuing to support the obvious corruption and waste of Brussels despite all the evidence." What evidence? Have you apologised for the obvious corruption and waste of the current government in Westminster? | |||
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"It's almost like the vaccine is being used to divert attention away from the utter car crash, that has preceded it. Dead right there: "However, the dispute is viewed by some critics as an attempt by Brussels to distract attention from its sluggish vaccination rollout as the UK races ahead". its not a good look for them to see the UK doing so well on this. They know they have to push the blame elsewhere. I doubt that's even crossed their mind. Oh, yes it is . . . "Ms von der Leyen tweeted late on Friday that she'd held "constructive talks" with Mr Johnson". I think the UK doing well has been a catalyst for their actions. If the UK was in the same state or worse it would not be so much of a problem for them but to see the UK doing well is a red rag to a bull. I don't understand the argument that because the UK made mistakes it means others mistakes can't be pointed out. If that were true no one could ever discuss mistakes again Where has the eu criticised the uk? When did I say they had? You said they had to push the blame somewhere else? Did I say the UK" Who then..the company? | |||
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"It's almost like the vaccine is being used to divert attention away from the utter car crash, that has preceded it. Dead right there: "However, the dispute is viewed by some critics as an attempt by Brussels to distract attention from its sluggish vaccination rollout as the UK races ahead". its not a good look for them to see the UK doing so well on this. They know they have to push the blame elsewhere. I doubt that's even crossed their mind. Oh, yes it is . . . "Ms von der Leyen tweeted late on Friday that she'd held "constructive talks" with Mr Johnson". I think the UK doing well has been a catalyst for their actions. If the UK was in the same state or worse it would not be so much of a problem for them but to see the UK doing well is a red rag to a bull. I don't understand the argument that because the UK made mistakes it means others mistakes can't be pointed out. If that were true no one could ever discuss mistakes again Where has the eu criticised the uk? Read it for yourself: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55865539 Are they still going ahead with that? Oh Okay then it's a non story - everybody back to bed. " Of course it's a story They have made a mistake and acknowledged it. The tories do it every other day | |||
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"Have non eu countries and countries who have ordered more paid extra?" Yes they have in some cases but surely what matters more is that the most vulnerable and highest risk in there populations are being vaccinated, saving lives an putting less pressure on there health systems and the rest of the population. The EU getting the price down is part of the reason they are so far behind many other countries, personally I think peoples lives are more important than saving a pound, euro or a dollar on a dose. | |||
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" What are they apologising for and who are they apologising to? For continuing to support the obvious corruption and waste of Brussels despite all the evidence. What evidence? Have you apologised for the obvious corruption and waste of the current government in Westminster? " This . . . "The extent of corruption in Europe is "breathtaking" and it costs the EU economy at least 120bn euros (£99bn) annually, the European Commission says." And it's their own Commission that are saying it. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26014387 | |||
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" What are they apologising for and who are they apologising to? For continuing to support the obvious corruption and waste of Brussels despite all the evidence. What evidence? Have you apologised for the obvious corruption and waste of the current government in Westminster? This . . . "The extent of corruption in Europe is "breathtaking" and it costs the EU economy at least 120bn euros (£99bn) annually, the European Commission says." And it's their own Commission that are saying it. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26014387 " How does that compared to the corruption / cronyism that has been happening in the past twelve months on the U.K. with Boris and Dom’s mates cashing in contracts awarded without tendering? | |||
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"It's almost like the vaccine is being used to divert attention away from the utter car crash, that has preceded it. Dead right there: "However, the dispute is viewed by some critics as an attempt by Brussels to distract attention from its sluggish vaccination rollout as the UK races ahead". its not a good look for them to see the UK doing so well on this. They know they have to push the blame elsewhere. I doubt that's even crossed their mind. Oh, yes it is . . . "Ms von der Leyen tweeted late on Friday that she'd held "constructive talks" with Mr Johnson". I think the UK doing well has been a catalyst for their actions. If the UK was in the same state or worse it would not be so much of a problem for them but to see the UK doing well is a red rag to a bull. I don't understand the argument that because the UK made mistakes it means others mistakes can't be pointed out. If that were true no one could ever discuss mistakes again Where has the eu criticised the uk? When did I say they had? You said they had to push the blame somewhere else? Did I say the UK Who then..the company?" They are getting the brunt of it. As I say the UK success is just highlighting their mistakes. They can't admit they messed up so have to shift the blame. Many reporters from all sides and around the world are saying the same thing I including from member States. The last thing the EU wants to see is an individual country out performing it especially one that's just left | |||
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