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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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For all the bluff and bluster, it’s appears things are going to the toilet quicker to than a lorry driver with a bad case of the runs in a portable chemical toilet at a lorry park in Kent waiting to cross the channel.
Just admit you got it all wrong, and you helped cause untold damage to our economy, and wasted taxpayers money on custom systems which barely cope and don’t work.
And to cap it, you accepted a deal which will destroy he very fabric of this great nation.
You were wrong, so wrong.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"For all the bluff and bluster, it’s appears things are going to the toilet quicker to than a lorry driver with a bad case of the runs in a portable chemical toilet at a lorry park in Kent waiting to cross the channel.
Just admit you got it all wrong, and you helped cause untold damage to our economy, and wasted taxpayers money on custom systems which barely cope and don’t work.
And to cap it, you accepted a deal which will destroy he very fabric of this great nation.
You were wrong, so wrong.
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Enjoy our chlorinated chicken  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It's like camping out in a woolworth's shop doorway. The remainers are waiting for the January sale 
Woolworths closed in 2015, Buck Exactly . "
I think you need to update your Metaphors, try and stay up to date, some of us weren’t born in the 1950s |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It's like camping out in a woolworth's shop doorway. The remainers are waiting for the January sale
Woolworths closed in 2015, Buck Exactly .
I think you need to update your Metaphors, try and stay up to date, some of us weren’t born in the 1950s You are missing the point i think mate maybe its a bit early for humour for you.Woolworths defunked eu defunked. "
Ah, I definitely missed the humour, maybe it’s an age thing? I am too young to get it |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke |
"For all the bluff and bluster, it’s appears things are going to the toilet quicker to than a lorry driver with a bad case of the runs in a portable chemical toilet at a lorry park in Kent waiting to cross the channel.
Just admit you got it all wrong, and you helped cause untold damage to our economy, and wasted taxpayers money on custom systems which barely cope and don’t work.
And to cap it, you accepted a deal which will destroy he very fabric of this great nation.
You were wrong, so wrong.
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Yet. You don't say how. So until you do. It's just your opinion. |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
upton wirral |
"For all the bluff and bluster, it’s appears things are going to the toilet quicker to than a lorry driver with a bad case of the runs in a portable chemical toilet at a lorry park in Kent waiting to cross the channel.
Just admit you got it all wrong, and you helped cause untold damage to our economy, and wasted taxpayers money on custom systems which barely cope and don’t work.
And to cap it, you accepted a deal which will destroy he very fabric of this great nation.
You were wrong, so wrong.
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The opposite all going well but you cannot bring yourself to admit.
Vaccine roll out all because we have left the EU or would you rather be in the EU with no vaccine?
You really need to grasp reality |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"For all the bluff and bluster, it’s appears things are going to the toilet quicker to than a lorry driver with a bad case of the runs in a portable chemical toilet at a lorry park in Kent waiting to cross the channel.
Just admit you got it all wrong, and you helped cause untold damage to our economy, and wasted taxpayers money on custom systems which barely cope and don’t work.
And to cap it, you accepted a deal which will destroy he very fabric of this great nation.
You were wrong, so wrong.
The opposite all going well but you cannot bring yourself to admit.
Vaccine roll out all because we have left the EU or would you rather be in the EU with no vaccine?
You really need to grasp reality"
The EU is vaccinating - albeit at a slower rate than us. So, your grasp on reality is clearly slipping.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"For all the bluff and bluster, it’s appears things are going to the toilet quicker to than a lorry driver with a bad case of the runs in a portable chemical toilet at a lorry park in Kent waiting to cross the channel.
Just admit you got it all wrong, and you helped cause untold damage to our economy, and wasted taxpayers money on custom systems which barely cope and don’t work.
And to cap it, you accepted a deal which will destroy he very fabric of this great nation.
You were wrong, so wrong.
The opposite all going well but you cannot bring yourself to admit.
Vaccine roll out all because we have left the EU or would you rather be in the EU with no vaccine?
You really need to grasp reality"
O dear, the vaccine roll out has nothing to do with leaving the EU |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
Grantham |
"For all the bluff and bluster, it’s appears things are going to the toilet quicker to than a lorry driver with a bad case of the runs in a portable chemical toilet at a lorry park in Kent waiting to cross the channel.
Just admit you got it all wrong, and you helped cause untold damage to our economy, and wasted taxpayers money on custom systems which barely cope and don’t work.
And to cap it, you accepted a deal which will destroy he very fabric of this great nation.
You were wrong, so wrong.
You need to get some help before your mental health deteriorates any more. It's done move on.
Well, that's the problem. The country can't move on because of the problems it's causing to the economy.
Leavers were robbed ...there was an assumption of governmental competence that underpinned the leave vote ... competence that is clearly absent from this Gov - populated with the chief protagonists of Brexit.
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Thats actually quite a good analysis. And one that I identify with. |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"For all the bluff and bluster, it’s appears things are going to the toilet quicker to than a lorry driver with a bad case of the runs in a portable chemical toilet at a lorry park in Kent waiting to cross the channel.
Just admit you got it all wrong, and you helped cause untold damage to our economy, and wasted taxpayers money on custom systems which barely cope and don’t work.
And to cap it, you accepted a deal which will destroy he very fabric of this great nation.
You were wrong, so wrong.
The opposite all going well but you cannot bring yourself to admit.
Vaccine roll out all because we have left the EU or would you rather be in the EU with no vaccine?
You really need to grasp reality
O dear, the vaccine roll out has nothing to do with leaving the EU "
Do you really believe if we had been in the eu that the uk would have broken the eu "we will do this as a union"? |
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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago
Bristol |
"For all the bluff and bluster, it’s appears things are going to the toilet quicker to than a lorry driver with a bad case of the runs in a portable chemical toilet at a lorry park in Kent waiting to cross the channel.
Just admit you got it all wrong, and you helped cause untold damage to our economy, and wasted taxpayers money on custom systems which barely cope and don’t work.
And to cap it, you accepted a deal which will destroy he very fabric of this great nation.
You were wrong, so wrong.
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“Yawn” |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"For all the bluff and bluster, it’s appears things are going to the toilet quicker to than a lorry driver with a bad case of the runs in a portable chemical toilet at a lorry park in Kent waiting to cross the channel.
Just admit you got it all wrong, and you helped cause untold damage to our economy, and wasted taxpayers money on custom systems which barely cope and don’t work.
And to cap it, you accepted a deal which will destroy he very fabric of this great nation.
You were wrong, so wrong.
The opposite all going well but you cannot bring yourself to admit.
Vaccine roll out all because we have left the EU or would you rather be in the EU with no vaccine?
You really need to grasp reality
O dear, the vaccine roll out has nothing to do with leaving the EU Do you really believe if we had been in the eu that the uk would have broken the eu "we will do this as a union"?"
Yes, why not? Here is an indisputable fact, the EU could not have prevented the way we have rolled out the vaccine, JRM lied to you |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
Grantham |
"For all the bluff and bluster, it’s appears things are going to the toilet quicker to than a lorry driver with a bad case of the runs in a portable chemical toilet at a lorry park in Kent waiting to cross the channel.
Just admit you got it all wrong, and you helped cause untold damage to our economy, and wasted taxpayers money on custom systems which barely cope and don’t work.
And to cap it, you accepted a deal which will destroy he very fabric of this great nation.
You were wrong, so wrong.
The opposite all going well but you cannot bring yourself to admit.
Vaccine roll out all because we have left the EU or would you rather be in the EU with no vaccine?
You really need to grasp reality
O dear, the vaccine roll out has nothing to do with leaving the EU Do you really believe if we had been in the eu that the uk would have broken the eu "we will do this as a union"?
Yes, why not? Here is an indisputable fact, the EU could not have prevented the way we have rolled out the vaccine, JRM lied to you "
Except that the EU agreed, and still agree, to act as a Bloc.
And that includes EMA approval and purchasing. |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"For all the bluff and bluster, it’s appears things are going to the toilet quicker to than a lorry driver with a bad case of the runs in a portable chemical toilet at a lorry park in Kent waiting to cross the channel.
Just admit you got it all wrong, and you helped cause untold damage to our economy, and wasted taxpayers money on custom systems which barely cope and don’t work.
And to cap it, you accepted a deal which will destroy he very fabric of this great nation.
You were wrong, so wrong.
The opposite all going well but you cannot bring yourself to admit.
Vaccine roll out all because we have left the EU or would you rather be in the EU with no vaccine?
You really need to grasp reality
O dear, the vaccine roll out has nothing to do with leaving the EU Do you really believe if we had been in the eu that the uk would have broken the eu "we will do this as a union"?
Yes, why not? Here is an indisputable fact, the EU could not have prevented the way we have rolled out the vaccine, JRM lied to you "
Not to me he didnt as dont know what he said.  Well we will never know but i think they would just have gone along with the block waited for the eu to approve it and joined the procurement scheme .But nice to see you having some faith in this government at last and that they would have seen the folly of the eu policy and gone their own way.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"For all the bluff and bluster, it’s appears things are going to the toilet quicker to than a lorry driver with a bad case of the runs in a portable chemical toilet at a lorry park in Kent waiting to cross the channel.
Just admit you got it all wrong, and you helped cause untold damage to our economy, and wasted taxpayers money on custom systems which barely cope and don’t work.
And to cap it, you accepted a deal which will destroy he very fabric of this great nation.
You were wrong, so wrong.
You need to get some help before your mental health deteriorates any more. It's done move on.
Mocking and questioning a persons mental health? Classy
I most certainly wasnt mocking, the OP has posted lots of times about something that's done, it's time to move on, he/she sounds like a dumped lover who wont accept facts, it often destroys their mental health, there is no going back now
There you go again? Questioning (someone you don’t know ) mental health? Classy howay mate it can’t be good for ppl tm be moaning about the same thing for almost 5yrs now it must be taking its toll on some
Farage and other leave voters moaned about it for 30 years??who too 30 yrs ago the most a working man could do was to his mate down the pub don’t think they where on internet 24/7 buddy lol"
They still moaned, wouldn’t accept the original referendum result , created and voted for a party that was anti EU etc |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"For all the bluff and bluster, it’s appears things are going to the toilet quicker to than a lorry driver with a bad case of the runs in a portable chemical toilet at a lorry park in Kent waiting to cross the channel.
Just admit you got it all wrong, and you helped cause untold damage to our economy, and wasted taxpayers money on custom systems which barely cope and don’t work.
And to cap it, you accepted a deal which will destroy he very fabric of this great nation.
You were wrong, so wrong.
The opposite all going well but you cannot bring yourself to admit.
Vaccine roll out all because we have left the EU or would you rather be in the EU with no vaccine?
You really need to grasp reality
O dear, the vaccine roll out has nothing to do with leaving the EU Do you really believe if we had been in the eu that the uk would have broken the eu "we will do this as a union"?
Yes, why not? Here is an indisputable fact, the EU could not have prevented the way we have rolled out the vaccine, JRM lied to you Not to me he didnt as dont know what he said. Well we will never know but i think they would just have gone along with the block waited for the eu to approve it and joined the procurement scheme .But nice to see you having some faith in this government at last and that they would have seen the folly of the eu policy and gone their own way. "
You voted for Boris and the tories so why are you doubting them now? The uk have chosen the correct path (in regards to the vaccine ) but it is early days. Why are leave voters so concerned about comparing the UK with the EU? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"For all the bluff and bluster, it’s appears things are going to the toilet quicker to than a lorry driver with a bad case of the runs in a portable chemical toilet at a lorry park in Kent waiting to cross the channel.
Just admit you got it all wrong, and you helped cause untold damage to our economy, and wasted taxpayers money on custom systems which barely cope and don’t work.
And to cap it, you accepted a deal which will destroy he very fabric of this great nation.
You were wrong, so wrong.
The opposite all going well but you cannot bring yourself to admit.
Vaccine roll out all because we have left the EU or would you rather be in the EU with no vaccine?
You really need to grasp reality
O dear, the vaccine roll out has nothing to do with leaving the EU Do you really believe if we had been in the eu that the uk would have broken the eu "we will do this as a union"?
Yes, why not? Here is an indisputable fact, the EU could not have prevented the way we have rolled out the vaccine, JRM lied to you
Except that the EU agreed, and still agree, to act as a Bloc.
And that includes EMA approval and purchasing. "
All of them? Could the EU have prevented the UKs vaccine programme? |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"For all the bluff and bluster, it’s appears things are going to the toilet quicker to than a lorry driver with a bad case of the runs in a portable chemical toilet at a lorry park in Kent waiting to cross the channel.
Just admit you got it all wrong, and you helped cause untold damage to our economy, and wasted taxpayers money on custom systems which barely cope and don’t work.
And to cap it, you accepted a deal which will destroy he very fabric of this great nation.
You were wrong, so wrong.
The opposite all going well but you cannot bring yourself to admit.
Vaccine roll out all because we have left the EU or would you rather be in the EU with no vaccine?
You really need to grasp reality
O dear, the vaccine roll out has nothing to do with leaving the EU Do you really believe if we had been in the eu that the uk would have broken the eu "we will do this as a union"?
Yes, why not? Here is an indisputable fact, the EU could not have prevented the way we have rolled out the vaccine, JRM lied to you Not to me he didnt as dont know what he said. Well we will never know but i think they would just have gone along with the block waited for the eu to approve it and joined the procurement scheme .But nice to see you having some faith in this government at last and that they would have seen the folly of the eu policy and gone their own way.
You voted for Boris and the tories so why are you doubting them now? The uk have chosen the correct path (in regards to the vaccine ) but it is early days. Why are leave voters so concerned about comparing the UK with the EU? "
Im not doubting them at all, have a think about it would boris even be pm if we hadn't voted to leave ? and glad you now have seen the light and realize he has done the right thing. |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
Grantham |
"For all the bluff and bluster, it’s appears things are going to the toilet quicker to than a lorry driver with a bad case of the runs in a portable chemical toilet at a lorry park in Kent waiting to cross the channel.
Just admit you got it all wrong, and you helped cause untold damage to our economy, and wasted taxpayers money on custom systems which barely cope and don’t work.
And to cap it, you accepted a deal which will destroy he very fabric of this great nation.
You were wrong, so wrong.
The opposite all going well but you cannot bring yourself to admit.
Vaccine roll out all because we have left the EU or would you rather be in the EU with no vaccine?
You really need to grasp reality
O dear, the vaccine roll out has nothing to do with leaving the EU Do you really believe if we had been in the eu that the uk would have broken the eu "we will do this as a union"?
Yes, why not? Here is an indisputable fact, the EU could not have prevented the way we have rolled out the vaccine, JRM lied to you
Except that the EU agreed, and still agree, to act as a Bloc.
And that includes EMA approval and purchasing.
All of them? Could the EU have prevented the UKs vaccine programme? "
Yes, the other 27 members agreed on that course of action. The UK decided not to join, and go its seperate way |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"For all the bluff and bluster, it’s appears things are going to the toilet quicker to than a lorry driver with a bad case of the runs in a portable chemical toilet at a lorry park in Kent waiting to cross the channel.
Just admit you got it all wrong, and you helped cause untold damage to our economy, and wasted taxpayers money on custom systems which barely cope and don’t work.
And to cap it, you accepted a deal which will destroy he very fabric of this great nation.
You were wrong, so wrong.
The opposite all going well but you cannot bring yourself to admit.
Vaccine roll out all because we have left the EU or would you rather be in the EU with no vaccine?
You really need to grasp reality
O dear, the vaccine roll out has nothing to do with leaving the EU Do you really believe if we had been in the eu that the uk would have broken the eu "we will do this as a union"?
Yes, why not? Here is an indisputable fact, the EU could not have prevented the way we have rolled out the vaccine, JRM lied to you
Except that the EU agreed, and still agree, to act as a Bloc.
And that includes EMA approval and purchasing.
All of them? Could the EU have prevented the UKs vaccine programme?
Yes, the other 27 members agreed on that course of action. The UK decided not to join, and go its seperate way "
So the EU couldn’t have prevented the UK? It is early days but the UK have definitely made the right decision |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
Grantham |
"For all the bluff and bluster, it’s appears things are going to the toilet quicker to than a lorry driver with a bad case of the runs in a portable chemical toilet at a lorry park in Kent waiting to cross the channel.
Just admit you got it all wrong, and you helped cause untold damage to our economy, and wasted taxpayers money on custom systems which barely cope and don’t work.
And to cap it, you accepted a deal which will destroy he very fabric of this great nation.
You were wrong, so wrong.
The opposite all going well but you cannot bring yourself to admit.
Vaccine roll out all because we have left the EU or would you rather be in the EU with no vaccine?
You really need to grasp reality
O dear, the vaccine roll out has nothing to do with leaving the EU Do you really believe if we had been in the eu that the uk would have broken the eu "we will do this as a union"?
Yes, why not? Here is an indisputable fact, the EU could not have prevented the way we have rolled out the vaccine, JRM lied to you
Except that the EU agreed, and still agree, to act as a Bloc.
And that includes EMA approval and purchasing.
All of them? Could the EU have prevented the UKs vaccine programme?
Yes, the other 27 members agreed on that course of action. The UK decided not to join, and go its seperate way
So the EU couldn’t have prevented the UK? It is early days but the UK have definitely made the right decision "
Yes, it looks like a very shrewd move by the UK.
As well as getting large vaccine orders in very early as well. |
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We are where we are now. There are manifestly problems. The UK has lost a lot of money and many businesses are struggling. Yes covid has made things worse, but a lot of the current difficulties are clearly linked to the exit from the EU and the way it has been implemented.
Can somebody from the leave side now please start giving constructive ideas about how the situation can be improved. Stop telling us that you won and that we have to get over it. Because: you won, I've accepted it, now can you get on with giving me all the good things that you promised? |
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"We are where we are now. There are manifestly problems. The UK has lost a lot of money and many businesses are struggling. Yes covid has made things worse, but a lot of the current difficulties are clearly linked to the exit from the EU and the way it has been implemented.
Can somebody from the leave side now please start giving constructive ideas about how the situation can be improved. Stop telling us that you won and that we have to get over it. Because: you won, I've accepted it, now can you get on with giving me all the good things that you promised?"
There was a lady on the radio who said farmers can now trim their hedges without being told by the eu.....yay. |
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"For all the bluff and bluster, it’s appears things are going to the toilet quicker to than a lorry driver with a bad case of the runs in a portable chemical toilet at a lorry park in Kent waiting to cross the channel.
Just admit you got it all wrong, and you helped cause untold damage to our economy, and wasted taxpayers money on custom systems which barely cope and don’t work.
And to cap it, you accepted a deal which will destroy he very fabric of this great nation.
You were wrong, so wrong.
The opposite all going well but you cannot bring yourself to admit.
Vaccine roll out all because we have left the EU or would you rather be in the EU with no vaccine?
You really need to grasp reality
O dear, the vaccine roll out has nothing to do with leaving the EU
Do you really believe if we had been in the eu that the uk would have broken the eu "we will do this as a union"?"
We'll never know but his point remains true, leaving the EU had nothing to do with how our vaccination programme has been delivered.
This was even major news on the day of the vaccine sign off that the timing had NOTHING to do with being out of the EU but some leavers are that desperate to have any form of Brexit win are just making up utter rubbish to promote Brexit.
Sounds a familiar trend |
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"For all the bluff and bluster, it’s appears things are going to the toilet quicker to than a lorry driver with a bad case of the runs in a portable chemical toilet at a lorry park in Kent waiting to cross the channel.
Just admit you got it all wrong, and you helped cause untold damage to our economy, and wasted taxpayers money on custom systems which barely cope and don’t work.
And to cap it, you accepted a deal which will destroy he very fabric of this great nation.
You were wrong, so wrong.
The opposite all going well but you cannot bring yourself to admit.
Vaccine roll out all because we have left the EU or would you rather be in the EU with no vaccine?
You really need to grasp reality
O dear, the vaccine roll out has nothing to do with leaving the EU Do you really believe if we had been in the eu that the uk would have broken the eu "we will do this as a union"?
Yes, why not? Here is an indisputable fact, the EU could not have prevented the way we have rolled out the vaccine, JRM lied to you
Except that the EU agreed, and still agree, to act as a Bloc.
And that includes EMA approval and purchasing. "
Not sure they all got that memo as some are not so impressed with it all |
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By *amish SMan
over a year ago
Eastleigh |
OP, do your homework, French bankers still coming to London to work, Macron refused his country a referendum, Italy and Spain anti EU political parties growing, the Dutch had already voted to leave. Global investors see the UK as secure, that is why the pound is worth more now. So what has been ruined.
If it is about the fact that shipping costs are more, well just wait until the current profiteering has finished. Not that it matters as of 1st July, you will be paying VAT again under EU MOSS and UK OSS. These are global schemes and nothing to do with leaving the EU.
The EU will be finished in 5 years time, it will be refashioned to that thing called an EEC - remember that. The only way it can continue as is, would be to have one government, and I really don't see the likes of Ireland, France and Spain disbanding their governments. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"OP, do your homework, French bankers still coming to London to work, Macron refused his country a referendum, Italy and Spain anti EU political parties growing, the Dutch had already voted to leave. Global investors see the UK as secure, that is why the pound is worth more now. So what has been ruined.
If it is about the fact that shipping costs are more, well just wait until the current profiteering has finished. Not that it matters as of 1st July, you will be paying VAT again under EU MOSS and UK OSS. These are global schemes and nothing to do with leaving the EU.
The EU will be finished in 5 years time, it will be refashioned to that thing called an EEC - remember that. The only way it can continue as is, would be to have one government, and I really don't see the likes of Ireland, France and Spain disbanding their governments. "
Want make a wager on the full dissoultion of the EU in jan 2026?
Really the pound is worth more than it was in 2016?
This fantasy that is the problem, that we are significantly better off, I don’t see nothing which supports that view. Only attempts by leave media outlets to put a positive spin with miniscule deals made in minor sectors of the economy.
Leavers are always clutching at straws and making them appear like steel pipes.
Admit leave was wrong, it has caused more harm than good in this nation icluding our economy and the architects of this fiasco were nothing more that snake oil huxters. |
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"OP, do your homework, French bankers still coming to London to work, Macron refused his country a referendum, Italy and Spain anti EU political parties growing, the Dutch had already voted to leave. Global investors see the UK as secure, that is why the pound is worth more now. So what has been ruined.
If it is about the fact that shipping costs are more, well just wait until the current profiteering has finished. Not that it matters as of 1st July, you will be paying VAT again under EU MOSS and UK OSS. These are global schemes and nothing to do with leaving the EU.
The EU will be finished in 5 years time, it will be refashioned to that thing called an EEC - remember that. The only way it can continue as is, would be to have one government, and I really don't see the likes of Ireland, France and Spain disbanding their governments. "
Evidence of the French bankers please.
Pound is worth more now than when? Historically, it really is low now.
Dutch referendum?
Macron refusing?
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"OP, do your homework, French bankers still coming to London to work, Macron refused his country a referendum, Italy and Spain anti EU political parties growing, the Dutch had already voted to leave. Global investors see the UK as secure, that is why the pound is worth more now. So what has been ruined.
If it is about the fact that shipping costs are more, well just wait until the current profiteering has finished. Not that it matters as of 1st July, you will be paying VAT again under EU MOSS and UK OSS. These are global schemes and nothing to do with leaving the EU.
The EU will be finished in 5 years time, it will be refashioned to that thing called an EEC - remember that. The only way it can continue as is, would be to have one government, and I really don't see the likes of Ireland, France and Spain disbanding their governments. "
The EU finished in 5 years’ time? Lol. Is that your own ‘project wank’?
According to a recent poll 61% of the French are pleased to see the U.K. leaving the EU. They’re clearly distraught aren’t they? They don’t give a toss about your self proclaimed importance and the arrogant country Britain has become by trying to flex its tiny muscles. We’ve become a country obsessed with its own belly button. The tripe you believe in is not universal truth. Before dreaming of the EU collapsing, try to make your project unicorn work. Priority number one: some fishermen in this country need your attention right now. Forget about the EU collapse for a minute.
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"OP, do your homework, French bankers still coming to London to work, Macron refused his country a referendum, Italy and Spain anti EU political parties growing, the Dutch had already voted to leave. Global investors see the UK as secure, that is why the pound is worth more now. So what has been ruined.
If it is about the fact that shipping costs are more, well just wait until the current profiteering has finished. Not that it matters as of 1st July, you will be paying VAT again under EU MOSS and UK OSS. These are global schemes and nothing to do with leaving the EU.
The EU will be finished in 5 years time, it will be refashioned to that thing called an EEC - remember that. The only way it can continue as is, would be to have one government, and I really don't see the likes of Ireland, France and Spain disbanding their governments. "
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"OP, do your homework, French bankers still coming to London to work, Macron refused his country a referendum, Italy and Spain anti EU political parties growing, the Dutch had already voted to leave. Global investors see the UK as secure, that is why the pound is worth more now. So what has been ruined.
If it is about the fact that shipping costs are more, well just wait until the current profiteering has finished. Not that it matters as of 1st July, you will be paying VAT again under EU MOSS and UK OSS. These are global schemes and nothing to do with leaving the EU.
The EU will be finished in 5 years time, it will be refashioned to that thing called an EEC - remember that. The only way it can continue as is, would be to have one government, and I really don't see the likes of Ireland, France and Spain disbanding their governments. "
Yawn.
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No way the EU is collapsing and to wish for that is way of shooting ourselves in the other foot, given that the EU is our biggest and closest market. It would be near-term disaster for the UK economy if the EU collapses. But again, those wishing for it are only exposing their nativity to the complexities of Global economics and governance. One of the reasons Joe Public should never have been asked his opinion on membership in the first place.
Anyway, no the EU won't be collapsing anytime soon, but here's a prediction for 10 years time.
China at the top of the food chain, followed by a weakening, divided US and a strengthen more united EU.
The UK or what is left of it after the Scots leave and possibly the Irish, will be left trying to sweep up whatever crumbs fall from the top tier table.
I love this country, but it's been sold up the river to settle a debate that should have confined the dark, smoky rooms of the Bullingdon Club. |
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There are a lot of crystal balls on this site, I've just looked in one, the germans get sick of financing every small country that can't pay its way, the French go further to the right, the Greeks get sick of being debt encumbered whipping boys...Spain does a separate deal to keep British ex pats...etc etc. it just comes apart at seams and they all go back to old currencies which they liked. Not so hard to imagine? Scotland has become independent but to late as there is no eu and nicola goes down in its history as being a twat. The rest of uk now trades largely with Asia, no German cars here thanks.... and we all live happily ever after! Of course that is just wild speculation like lots of the posts on here!  |
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I don't see an EU in the future, just an EEC. There is massive resentment about associate members Norway and Denmark, and now I suspect the UK, many consider that the half in idea is not what the EU is about. Some above are confusing trade and governance, two very different things. A trade bloc of some sort (EEC) will always exist, but I don't see the current form of governance (EU) continuing as it is. |
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"I don't see an EU in the future, just an EEC. There is massive resentment about associate members Norway and Denmark, and now I suspect the UK, many consider that the half in idea is not what the EU is about. Some above are confusing trade and governance, two very different things. A trade bloc of some sort (EEC) will always exist, but I don't see the current form of governance (EU) continuing as it is. "
I do not accept the premise that in five years the EU will simply implode and roll back to the old EEC, what is the saying too big to fail. |
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"There are a lot of crystal balls on this site, I've just looked in one, the germans get sick of financing every small country that can't pay its way, the French go further to the right, the Greeks get sick of being debt encumbered whipping boys...Spain does a separate deal to keep British ex pats...etc etc. it just comes apart at seams and they all go back to old currencies which they liked. Not so hard to imagine? Scotland has become independent but to late as there is no eu and nicola goes down in its history as being a twat. The rest of uk now trades largely with Asia, no German cars here thanks.... and we all live happily ever after! Of course that is just wild speculation like lots of the posts on here! "
This is the problem with nationalism - it's short-sighted.
No, comparatively, the UK doesn't do much trade with Asia and no people, in the main, don't want Toyotas rather than VWs, Mercs and BMWs.
The EU is the UK's biggest market by far ..nothing even comes close. It's also our closest... global trade 101, you have the strongest trading relationships with those closest to you and your values. That's the EU, not China.
So if it implodes as some here would like, it will be a disaster for the UK and for the global economy more broadly. The world is build on a system of integrated global trade, it would take decades to unpick and the fall out would be bad for those at the bottom.
Quite the opposite will happen in my opinion. China is about to ascend to the crown of biggest global economy, the US is divided to such an extent that it is becoming hard to govern. The EU block will become more tight-nit in order to either fend off and increasingly dominant China and to rival and increasingly fractured US.
The next decade will be dominated by this power struggle between 3 huge trading blocks. one only need read recent headlines to see how this is beginning to play out.
The UK is now on the sidelines and will become increasingly less important on the world stage.
What it needs to do now is learn how to thrive rather than simply survive. Sadly, that requires competence at the top...
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"There are a lot of crystal balls on this site, I've just looked in one, the germans get sick of financing every small country that can't pay its way, the French go further to the right, the Greeks get sick of being debt encumbered whipping boys...Spain does a separate deal to keep British ex pats...etc etc. it just comes apart at seams and they all go back to old currencies which they liked. Not so hard to imagine? Scotland has become independent but to late as there is no eu and nicola goes down in its history as being a twat. The rest of uk now trades largely with Asia, no German cars here thanks.... and we all live happily ever after! Of course that is just wild speculation like lots of the posts on here!
This is the problem with nationalism - it's short-sighted.
No, comparatively, the UK doesn't do much trade with Asia and no people, in the main, don't want Toyotas rather than VWs, Mercs and BMWs.
The EU is the UK's biggest market by far ..nothing even comes close. It's also our closest... global trade 101, you have the strongest trading relationships with those closest to you and your values. That's the EU, not China.
So if it implodes as some here would like, it will be a disaster for the UK and for the global economy more broadly. The world is build on a system of integrated global trade, it would take decades to unpick and the fall out would be bad for those at the bottom.
Quite the opposite will happen in my opinion. China is about to ascend to the crown of biggest global economy, the US is divided to such an extent that it is becoming hard to govern. The EU block will become more tight-nit in order to either fend off and increasingly dominant China and to rival and increasingly fractured US.
The next decade will be dominated by this power struggle between 3 huge trading blocks. one only need read recent headlines to see how this is beginning to play out.
The UK is now on the sidelines and will become increasingly less important on the world stage.
What it needs to do now is learn how to thrive rather than simply survive. Sadly, that requires competence at the top...
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I think your last paragraph highlights my biggest concern for the UK's future... |
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"For all the bluff and bluster, it’s appears things are going to the toilet quicker to than a lorry driver with a bad case of the runs in a portable chemical toilet at a lorry park in Kent waiting to cross the channel.
Just admit you got it all wrong, and you helped cause untold damage to our economy, and wasted taxpayers money on custom systems which barely cope and don’t work.
And to cap it, you accepted a deal which will destroy he very fabric of this great nation.
You were wrong, so wrong.
The opposite all going well but you cannot bring yourself to admit.
Vaccine roll out all because we have left the EU or would you rather be in the EU with no vaccine?
You really need to grasp reality
The EU is vaccinating - albeit at a slower rate than us. So, your grasp on reality is clearly slipping.
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The EU is now trying to steal are vaccine they are useless I think millions in Europe would laugh at your point you are desparate and cannot admit you are wrong that is the most pathetic thing |
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"For all the bluff and bluster, it’s appears things are going to the toilet quicker to than a lorry driver with a bad case of the runs in a portable chemical toilet at a lorry park in Kent waiting to cross the channel.
Just admit you got it all wrong, and you helped cause untold damage to our economy, and wasted taxpayers money on custom systems which barely cope and don’t work.
And to cap it, you accepted a deal which will destroy he very fabric of this great nation.
You were wrong, so wrong.
The opposite all going well but you cannot bring yourself to admit.
Vaccine roll out all because we have left the EU or would you rather be in the EU with no vaccine?
You really need to grasp reality
The EU is vaccinating - albeit at a slower rate than us. So, your grasp on reality is clearly slipping.
The EU is now trying to steal are vaccine they are useless I think millions in Europe would laugh at your point you are desparate and cannot admit you are wrong that is the most pathetic thing"
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"There are a lot of crystal balls on this site, I've just looked in one, the germans get sick of financing every small country that can't pay its way, the French go further to the right, the Greeks get sick of being debt encumbered whipping boys...Spain does a separate deal to keep British ex pats...etc etc. it just comes apart at seams and they all go back to old currencies which they liked. Not so hard to imagine? Scotland has become independent but to late as there is no eu and nicola goes down in its history as being a twat. The rest of uk now trades largely with Asia, no German cars here thanks.... and we all live happily ever after! Of course that is just wild speculation like lots of the posts on here!
This is the problem with nationalism - it's short-sighted.
No, comparatively, the UK doesn't do much trade with Asia and no people, in the main, don't want Toyotas rather than VWs, Mercs and BMWs.
The EU is the UK's biggest market by far ..nothing even comes close. It's also our closest... global trade 101, you have the strongest trading relationships with those closest to you and your values. That's the EU, not China.
So if it implodes as some here would like, it will be a disaster for the UK and for the global economy more broadly. The world is build on a system of integrated global trade, it would take decades to unpick and the fall out would be bad for those at the bottom.
Quite the opposite will happen in my opinion. China is about to ascend to the crown of biggest global economy, the US is divided to such an extent that it is becoming hard to govern. The EU block will become more tight-nit in order to either fend off and increasingly dominant China and to rival and increasingly fractured US.
The next decade will be dominated by this power struggle between 3 huge trading blocks. one only need read recent headlines to see how this is beginning to play out.
The UK is now on the sidelines and will become increasingly less important on the world stage.
What it needs to do now is learn how to thrive rather than simply survive. Sadly, that requires competence at the top...
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Are you saying your crystal ball is better than mine! How very dare you! Nationalism? What are you on about? Deduct a point. Clairvoyant obviously!
Hyundai kia diahatsui beko were unknown brands in UK 20 years ago. I don't think eu will implode rather morph back to a slimmer beast, at which point the UK might even rejoin lol as China has grown so will India, a place the UK has strong links, but its all speculation, no one predicted covid kicking our arse in 2019... so why we think we know exactly what will or will not happen was the point of me posting. |
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"For all the bluff and bluster, it’s appears things are going to the toilet quicker to than a lorry driver with a bad case of the runs in a portable chemical toilet at a lorry park in Kent waiting to cross the channel.
Just admit you got it all wrong, and you helped cause untold damage to our economy, and wasted taxpayers money on custom systems which barely cope and don’t work.
And to cap it, you accepted a deal which will destroy he very fabric of this great nation.
You were wrong, so wrong.
The opposite all going well but you cannot bring yourself to admit.
Vaccine roll out all because we have left the EU or would you rather be in the EU with no vaccine?
You really need to grasp reality
The EU is vaccinating - albeit at a slower rate than us. So, your grasp on reality is clearly slipping.
The EU is now trying to steal are vaccine they are useless I think millions in Europe would laugh at your point you are desparate and cannot admit you are wrong that is the most pathetic thing
When you say steal?"
do you think the eu should get this vaccine before the U.K. then Lionel ??? |
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"For all the bluff and bluster, it’s appears things are going to the toilet quicker to than a lorry driver with a bad case of the runs in a portable chemical toilet at a lorry park in Kent waiting to cross the channel.
Just admit you got it all wrong, and you helped cause untold damage to our economy, and wasted taxpayers money on custom systems which barely cope and don’t work.
And to cap it, you accepted a deal which will destroy he very fabric of this great nation.
You were wrong, so wrong.
The opposite all going well but you cannot bring yourself to admit.
Vaccine roll out all because we have left the EU or would you rather be in the EU with no vaccine?
You really need to grasp reality
The EU is vaccinating - albeit at a slower rate than us. So, your grasp on reality is clearly slipping.
The EU is now trying to steal are vaccine they are useless I think millions in Europe would laugh at your point you are desparate and cannot admit you are wrong that is the most pathetic thing
When you say steal? do you think the eu should get this vaccine before the U.K. then Lionel ???"
Just asking how they are stealing it? |
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"For all the bluff and bluster, it’s appears things are going to the toilet quicker to than a lorry driver with a bad case of the runs in a portable chemical toilet at a lorry park in Kent waiting to cross the channel.
Just admit you got it all wrong, and you helped cause untold damage to our economy, and wasted taxpayers money on custom systems which barely cope and don’t work.
And to cap it, you accepted a deal which will destroy he very fabric of this great nation.
You were wrong, so wrong.
The opposite all going well but you cannot bring yourself to admit.
Vaccine roll out all because we have left the EU or would you rather be in the EU with no vaccine?
You really need to grasp reality
The EU is vaccinating - albeit at a slower rate than us. So, your grasp on reality is clearly slipping.
The EU is now trying to steal are vaccine they are useless I think millions in Europe would laugh at your point you are desparate and cannot admit you are wrong that is the most pathetic thing
When you say steal? do you think the eu should get this vaccine before the U.K. then Lionel ???
Just asking how they are stealing it?"
I know you are I don’t think they’ve stole any just trying to get more vaccines for there ppl fair play to them I don’t think they will tho I was just asking do you think they should get them before the U.K. ? |
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"For all the bluff and bluster, it’s appears things are going to the toilet quicker to than a lorry driver with a bad case of the runs in a portable chemical toilet at a lorry park in Kent waiting to cross the channel.
Just admit you got it all wrong, and you helped cause untold damage to our economy, and wasted taxpayers money on custom systems which barely cope and don’t work.
And to cap it, you accepted a deal which will destroy he very fabric of this great nation.
You were wrong, so wrong.
The opposite all going well but you cannot bring yourself to admit.
Vaccine roll out all because we have left the EU or would you rather be in the EU with no vaccine?
You really need to grasp reality
The EU is vaccinating - albeit at a slower rate than us. So, your grasp on reality is clearly slipping.
The EU is now trying to steal are vaccine they are useless I think millions in Europe would laugh at your point you are desparate and cannot admit you are wrong that is the most pathetic thing
When you say steal? do you think the eu should get this vaccine before the U.K. then Lionel ???
Just asking how they are stealing it?I know you are I don’t think they’ve stole any just trying to get more vaccines for there ppl fair play to them I don’t think they will tho I was just asking do you think they should get them before the U.K. ?"
I don't know..it seems to have escalated into a row..I'm not sure who is at fault..The company by the looks of it.
I do know those vulnerable groups should be vaccinated 1st. |
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"For all the bluff and bluster, it’s appears things are going to the toilet quicker to than a lorry driver with a bad case of the runs in a portable chemical toilet at a lorry park in Kent waiting to cross the channel.
Just admit you got it all wrong, and you helped cause untold damage to our economy, and wasted taxpayers money on custom systems which barely cope and don’t work.
And to cap it, you accepted a deal which will destroy he very fabric of this great nation.
You were wrong, so wrong.
The opposite all going well but you cannot bring yourself to admit.
Vaccine roll out all because we have left the EU or would you rather be in the EU with no vaccine?
You really need to grasp reality
The EU is vaccinating - albeit at a slower rate than us. So, your grasp on reality is clearly slipping.
The EU is now trying to steal are vaccine they are useless I think millions in Europe would laugh at your point you are desparate and cannot admit you are wrong that is the most pathetic thing
When you say steal? do you think the eu should get this vaccine before the U.K. then Lionel ???
Just asking how they are stealing it?I know you are I don’t think they’ve stole any just trying to get more vaccines for there ppl fair play to them I don’t think they will tho I was just asking do you think they should get them before the U.K. ?
I don't know..it seems to have escalated into a row..I'm not sure who is at fault..The company by the looks of it.
I do know those vulnerable groups should be vaccinated 1st."
as the U.K. booked ours 3months earlier than the eu and ours are signed of amd there’s isn’t I’d say the U.K. should get ours first but I would wouldn’t I lol which vulnerable groups do you mean Lionel the U.K. or EU ? |
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When politics gets emotional, know that the rulers are laughing because it is then that the ruled lose all sense and reason.
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"How much is made for China in the UK, you would be very surprised, most is then shipped into the EU.
How many German cars are made in Germany or elsewhere in the EU, very few models actually.
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sooooo do you think the eu should get the vaccines before the U.K. then simple question ? |
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When politics gets emotional, know that the rulers are laughing because it is then that the ruled lose all sense and reason.
Me: 2021."
Absolutely .. and I hope your words are not entirely wasted .. However I wouldn’t give to much credence to the term “ politics “ most of what’s written is opinion based .. |
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When politics gets emotional, know that the rulers are laughing because it is then that the ruled lose all sense and reason.
Me: 2021.
Absolutely .. and I hope your words are not entirely wasted .. However I wouldn’t give to much credence to the term “ politics “ most of what’s written is opinion based .. "
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When politics gets emotional, know that the rulers are laughing because it is then that the ruled lose all sense and reason.
Me: 2021.
Absolutely .. and I hope your words are not entirely wasted .. However I wouldn’t give to much credence to the term “ politics “ most of what’s written is opinion based .. Politics start with an opinion"
wow so mystical and deep lol politics is politics, it cant be assigned emotions... the people might get emotional and storm parliament.. but once in a while thats not a bad thing, think french revolution,
lucy loo having a pooh 2021 |
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When politics gets emotional, know that the rulers are laughing because it is then that the ruled lose all sense and reason.
Me: 2021.
Absolutely .. and I hope your words are not entirely wasted .. However I wouldn’t give to much credence to the term “ politics “ most of what’s written is opinion based .. Politics start with an opinion
wow so mystical and deep lol politics is politics, it cant be assigned emotions... the people might get emotional and storm parliament.. but once in a while thats not a bad thing, think french revolution,
lucy loo having a pooh 2021 "
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When politics gets emotional, know that the rulers are laughing because it is then that the ruled lose all sense and reason.
Me: 2021.
Absolutely .. and I hope your words are not entirely wasted .. However I wouldn’t give to much credence to the term “ politics “ most of what’s written is opinion based .. Politics start with an opinion
wow so mystical and deep lol politics is politics, it cant be assigned emotions... the people might get emotional and storm parliament.. but once in a while thats not a bad thing, think french revolution,
lucy loo having a pooh 2021 "
Burke’s address to the electorate of Bristol ..
If I carry out your instructions without giving you the benefit of my judgement , I am not serving you I am failing you ..
It may be the popular opinion of the gang to raid the pub and smash every trannies face in .. however you and I would both hope for a more political solution could be found .. We would hope you and I that a politician could broker a deal between those whom carried the opinion that you and I where nothing more than a queer bunch of cxxts and needed exterminating , even though that view was his own opinion . One would hope , wouldn’t one that opinion did not cloud his political judgement |
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When politics gets emotional, know that the rulers are laughing because it is then that the ruled lose all sense and reason.
Me: 2021.
Absolutely .. and I hope your words are not entirely wasted .. However I wouldn’t give to much credence to the term “ politics “ most of what’s written is opinion based .. Politics start with an opinion
wow so mystical and deep lol politics is politics, it cant be assigned emotions... the people might get emotional and storm parliament.. but once in a while thats not a bad thing, think french revolution,
lucy loo having a pooh 2021
Burke’s address to the electorate of Bristol ..
If I carry out your instructions without giving you the benefit of my judgement , I am not serving you I am failing you ..
It may be the popular opinion of the gang to raid the pub and smash every trannies face in .. however you and I would both hope for a more political solution could be found .. We would hope you and I that a politician could broker a deal between those whom carried the opinion that you and I where nothing more than a queer bunch of cxxts and needed exterminating , even though that view was his own opinion . One would hope , wouldn’t one that opinion did not cloud his political judgement "
Is that Edmund Burke or another one? I'm not sure they had tranny pubs in 1700? Ale houses and ladies of the night perhaps? Oooo matron have politicians hijacked common sense..... no! |
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