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"it makes for a refreshing change from centuries of unionist nationalism." You haven’t answered the question or provided your prediction. | |||
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"it makes for a refreshing change from centuries of unionist nationalism. You haven’t answered the question or provided your prediction." and? | |||
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"it makes for a refreshing change from centuries of unionist nationalism. You haven’t answered the question or provided your prediction. and? " The question was .... How stable is the future of the union? | |||
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"Not sure how the GFA comes into play on Irish unification, but it won't end well going down tjat route. " The GFA outlines the process and the terms and conditions for a Irish unification. I don't see it as pessimistic as you do, times have changed and Brexit has worked in favour of a unification. | |||
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"The only union i could see existing in ten years time would be the United Countries of Scotland, Northern Ireland, Wales, Cornwall, Northumberland, Cumbria and Yorkshire. With a much diminished England full of bitter people mumbling "we won, get over it, stop being mean to us"." Well if it's good enough for Yorkshire then Lancashire would follow too I suggest.. Englandshire, bit of a ring to it.. | |||
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"Nobody knows the answer to the OPs question until there’s a vote, or two. I can say that I really don’t care if countries can’t see the benefits of being in the British Empire and want to leave. Fine, go. We are now free to forge new alliances more in line with our national interests. " Who are the members of the ‘British Empire ‘ ?  | |||
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"Nobody knows the answer to the OPs question until there’s a vote, or two. I can say that I really don’t care if countries can’t see the benefits of being in the British Empire and want to leave. Fine, go. We are now free to forge new alliances more in line with our national interests. Who are the members of the ‘British Empire ‘ ? "I believe they are remaking it ain't half hot mum (Showing my age there) | |||
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"There's an irony that Brexit as in 'leaving a union' has some sort of snowball effect, not on other European countries (like some predicted) but on uk countries. " V true  | |||
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"Nobody knows the answer to the OPs question until there’s a vote, or two. I can say that I really don’t care if countries can’t see the benefits of being in the British Empire and want to leave. Fine, go. We are now free to forge new alliances more in line with our national interests. Who are the members of the ‘British Empire ‘ ? "Anguilla Bermuda British Antarctic Territory British Indian Ocean Territory British Virgin Islands Cayman Islands Falkland Islands Gibraltar Montserrat Pitcairn Islands Saint Helena, Ascension and Tristan da Cunha Saint Helena Ascension Island Tristan da Cunha South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands Sovereign Base Areas of Akrotiri and Dhekelia Turks and Caicos Islands | |||
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"Nobody knows the answer to the OPs question until there’s a vote, or two. I can say that I really don’t care if countries can’t see the benefits of being in the British Empire and want to leave. Fine, go. We are now free to forge new alliances more in line with our national interests. Who are the members of the ‘British Empire ‘ ?
Anguilla
Bermuda
British Antarctic Territory
British Indian Ocean Territory
British Virgin Islands
Cayman Islands
Falkland Islands
Gibraltar
Montserrat
Pitcairn Islands
Saint Helena, Ascension and Tristan da Cunha
Saint Helena
Ascension Island
Tristan da Cunha
South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands
Sovereign Base Areas of Akrotiri and Dhekelia
Turks and Caicos Islands"South Sandwich Islands, | |||
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"Nobody knows the answer to the OPs question until there’s a vote, or two. I can say that I really don’t care if countries can’t see the benefits of being in the British Empire and want to leave. Fine, go. We are now free to forge new alliances more in line with our national interests. Who are the members of the ‘British Empire ‘ ?
Anguilla
Bermuda
British Antarctic Territory
British Indian Ocean Territory
British Virgin Islands
Cayman Islands
Falkland Islands
Gibraltar
Montserrat
Pitcairn Islands
Saint Helena, Ascension and Tristan da Cunha
Saint Helena
Ascension Island
Tristan da Cunha
South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands
Sovereign Base Areas of Akrotiri and Dhekelia
Turks and Caicos Islands
South Sandwich Islands, "It’s not the Jewell in the Empire, no, no one lives there | |||
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"Nobody knows the answer to the OPs question until there’s a vote, or two. I can say that I really don’t care if countries can’t see the benefits of being in the British Empire and want to leave. Fine, go. We are now free to forge new alliances more in line with our national interests. Who are the members of the ‘British Empire ‘ ?
Anguilla
Bermuda
British Antarctic Territory
British Indian Ocean Territory
British Virgin Islands
Cayman Islands
Falkland Islands
Gibraltar
Montserrat
Pitcairn Islands
Saint Helena, Ascension and Tristan da Cunha
Saint Helena
Ascension Island
Tristan da Cunha
South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands
Sovereign Base Areas of Akrotiri and Dhekelia
Turks and Caicos Islands
South Sandwich Islands,
It’s not the Jewell in the Empire, no, no one lives there "Except for some penguins, sea birds and seals. Though it does have its own country code top level domain .gs which also covers South Georgia. | |||
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"Nobody knows the answer to the OPs question until there’s a vote, or two. I can say that I really don’t care if countries can’t see the benefits of being in the British Empire and want to leave. Fine, go. We are now free to forge new alliances more in line with our national interests. Who are the members of the ‘British Empire ‘ ?
Anguilla
Bermuda
British Antarctic Territory
British Indian Ocean Territory
British Virgin Islands
Cayman Islands
Falkland Islands
Gibraltar
Montserrat
Pitcairn Islands
Saint Helena, Ascension and Tristan da Cunha
Saint Helena
Ascension Island
Tristan da Cunha
South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands
Sovereign Base Areas of Akrotiri and Dhekelia
Turks and Caicos Islands
South Sandwich Islands,
It’s not the Jewell in the Empire, no, no one lives there "It isn’t much of an Empire, just out of interest how much moment do these places contribute to the British economy? | |||
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"Nobody knows the answer to the OPs question until there’s a vote, or two. I can say that I really don’t care if countries can’t see the benefits of being in the British Empire and want to leave. Fine, go. We are now free to forge new alliances more in line with our national interests. Who are the members of the ‘British Empire ‘ ?
Anguilla
Bermuda
British Antarctic Territory
British Indian Ocean Territory
British Virgin Islands
Cayman Islands
Falkland Islands
Gibraltar
Montserrat
Pitcairn Islands
Saint Helena, Ascension and Tristan da Cunha
Saint Helena
Ascension Island
Tristan da Cunha
South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands
Sovereign Base Areas of Akrotiri and Dhekelia
Turks and Caicos Islands
South Sandwich Islands,
It’s not the Jewell in the Empire, no, no one lives there
It isn’t much of an Empire, just out of interest how much moment do these places contribute to the British economy? "Money  | |||
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"Nobody knows the answer to the OPs question until there’s a vote, or two. I can say that I really don’t care if countries can’t see the benefits of being in the British Empire and want to leave. Fine, go. We are now free to forge new alliances more in line with our national interests. Who are the members of the ‘British Empire ‘ ?
Anguilla
Bermuda
British Antarctic Territory
British Indian Ocean Territory
British Virgin Islands
Cayman Islands
Falkland Islands
Gibraltar
Montserrat
Pitcairn Islands
Saint Helena, Ascension and Tristan da Cunha
Saint Helena
Ascension Island
Tristan da Cunha
South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands
Sovereign Base Areas of Akrotiri and Dhekelia
Turks and Caicos Islands
South Sandwich Islands,
It’s not the Jewell in the Empire, no, no one lives there
It isn’t much of an Empire, just out of interest how much moment do these places contribute to the British economy? "Actually there’s a vast number of British and foreign Finance businesses registered in at least seven of those. We all know that whether it’s 3 or 33 percent of British GDP it will never be of sufficient “moment” to satisfy the whiners. | |||
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"Nobody knows the answer to the OPs question until there’s a vote, or two. I can say that I really don’t care if countries can’t see the benefits of being in the British Empire and want to leave. Fine, go. We are now free to forge new alliances more in line with our national interests. Who are the members of the ‘British Empire ‘ ?
Anguilla
Bermuda
British Antarctic Territory
British Indian Ocean Territory
British Virgin Islands
Cayman Islands
Falkland Islands
Gibraltar
Montserrat
Pitcairn Islands
Saint Helena, Ascension and Tristan da Cunha
Saint Helena
Ascension Island
Tristan da Cunha
South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands
Sovereign Base Areas of Akrotiri and Dhekelia
Turks and Caicos Islands
South Sandwich Islands,
It’s not the Jewell in the Empire, no, no one lives there
It isn’t much of an Empire, just out of interest how much moment do these places contribute to the British economy?
Actually there’s a vast number of British and foreign Finance businesses registered in at least seven of those. We all know that whether it’s 3 or 33 percent of British GDP it will never be of sufficient “moment” to satisfy the whiners."Wow, as high as that? Did you know it costs over 60 million a years to ‘defend ‘ the Falkland Islands, which works out at £20,000 per inhabitant  | |||
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"Nobody knows the answer to the OPs question until there’s a vote, or two. I can say that I really don’t care if countries can’t see the benefits of being in the British Empire and want to leave. Fine, go. We are now free to forge new alliances more in line with our national interests. Who are the members of the ‘British Empire ‘ ?
Anguilla
Bermuda
British Antarctic Territory
British Indian Ocean Territory
British Virgin Islands
Cayman Islands
Falkland Islands
Gibraltar
Montserrat
Pitcairn Islands
Saint Helena, Ascension and Tristan da Cunha
Saint Helena
Ascension Island
Tristan da Cunha
South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands
Sovereign Base Areas of Akrotiri and Dhekelia
Turks and Caicos Islands
South Sandwich Islands,
It’s not the Jewell in the Empire, no, no one lives there
It isn’t much of an Empire, just out of interest how much moment do these places contribute to the British economy?
Money "Actually “moment” was acceptable usage, it’s a synonym for importance. I’d have stuck with it, makes you look like you have a bigger vocabulary  | |||
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"Nobody knows the answer to the OPs question until there’s a vote, or two. I can say that I really don’t care if countries can’t see the benefits of being in the British Empire and want to leave. Fine, go. We are now free to forge new alliances more in line with our national interests. Who are the members of the ‘British Empire ‘ ?
Anguilla
Bermuda
British Antarctic Territory
British Indian Ocean Territory
British Virgin Islands
Cayman Islands
Falkland Islands
Gibraltar
Montserrat
Pitcairn Islands
Saint Helena, Ascension and Tristan da Cunha
Saint Helena
Ascension Island
Tristan da Cunha
South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands
Sovereign Base Areas of Akrotiri and Dhekelia
Turks and Caicos Islands
South Sandwich Islands,
It’s not the Jewell in the Empire, no, no one lives there
It isn’t much of an Empire, just out of interest how much moment do these places contribute to the British economy?
Money
Actually “moment” was acceptable usage, it’s a synonym for importance. I’d have stuck with it, makes you look like you have a bigger vocabulary "That makes no sense but I am glad you made the effort | |||
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"Nobody knows the answer to the OPs question until there’s a vote, or two. I can say that I really don’t care if countries can’t see the benefits of being in the British Empire and want to leave. Fine, go. We are now free to forge new alliances more in line with our national interests. Who are the members of the ‘British Empire ‘ ?
Anguilla
Bermuda
British Antarctic Territory
British Indian Ocean Territory
British Virgin Islands
Cayman Islands
Falkland Islands
Gibraltar
Montserrat
Pitcairn Islands
Saint Helena, Ascension and Tristan da Cunha
Saint Helena
Ascension Island
Tristan da Cunha
South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands
Sovereign Base Areas of Akrotiri and Dhekelia
Turks and Caicos Islands
South Sandwich Islands,
It’s not the Jewell in the Empire, no, no one lives there
It isn’t much of an Empire, just out of interest how much moment do these places contribute to the British economy?
Actually there’s a vast number of British and foreign Finance businesses registered in at least seven of those. We all know that whether it’s 3 or 33 percent of British GDP it will never be of sufficient “moment” to satisfy the whiners.
Wow, as high as that? Did you know it costs over 60 million a years to ‘defend ‘ the Falkland Islands, which works out at £20,000 per inhabitant "really that much ffs give it back to the argies who gives a fuck about a piece of rock thousands of miles away | |||
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"Nobody knows the answer to the OPs question until there’s a vote, or two. I can say that I really don’t care if countries can’t see the benefits of being in the British Empire and want to leave. Fine, go. We are now free to forge new alliances more in line with our national interests. Who are the members of the ‘British Empire ‘ ?
Anguilla
Bermuda
British Antarctic Territory
British Indian Ocean Territory
British Virgin Islands
Cayman Islands
Falkland Islands
Gibraltar
Montserrat
Pitcairn Islands
Saint Helena, Ascension and Tristan da Cunha
Saint Helena
Ascension Island
Tristan da Cunha
South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands
Sovereign Base Areas of Akrotiri and Dhekelia
Turks and Caicos Islands
South Sandwich Islands,
It’s not the Jewell in the Empire, no, no one lives there
It isn’t much of an Empire, just out of interest how much moment do these places contribute to the British economy?
Actually there’s a vast number of British and foreign Finance businesses registered in at least seven of those. We all know that whether it’s 3 or 33 percent of British GDP it will never be of sufficient “moment” to satisfy the whiners.
Wow, as high as that? Did you know it costs over 60 million a years to ‘defend ‘ the Falkland Islands, which works out at £20,000 per inhabitant "Money well spent there | |||
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"Nobody knows the answer to the OPs question until there’s a vote, or two. I can say that I really don’t care if countries can’t see the benefits of being in the British Empire and want to leave. Fine, go. We are now free to forge new alliances more in line with our national interests. Who are the members of the ‘British Empire ‘ ?
Anguilla
Bermuda
British Antarctic Territory
British Indian Ocean Territory
British Virgin Islands
Cayman Islands
Falkland Islands
Gibraltar
Montserrat
Pitcairn Islands
Saint Helena, Ascension and Tristan da Cunha
Saint Helena
Ascension Island
Tristan da Cunha
South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands
Sovereign Base Areas of Akrotiri and Dhekelia
Turks and Caicos Islands
South Sandwich Islands,
It’s not the Jewell in the Empire, no, no one lives there
It isn’t much of an Empire, just out of interest how much moment do these places contribute to the British economy?
Money
Actually “moment” was acceptable usage, it’s a synonym for importance. I’d have stuck with it, makes you look like you have a bigger vocabulary "Back to the question... How stable is the Union ? And what are your predictions for its future amid the rise in regional calls for independence. | |||
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"Nobody knows the answer to the OPs question until there’s a vote, or two. I can say that I really don’t care if countries can’t see the benefits of being in the British Empire and want to leave. Fine, go. We are now free to forge new alliances more in line with our national interests. Who are the members of the ‘British Empire ‘ ?
Anguilla
Bermuda
British Antarctic Territory
British Indian Ocean Territory
British Virgin Islands
Cayman Islands
Falkland Islands
Gibraltar
Montserrat
Pitcairn Islands
Saint Helena, Ascension and Tristan da Cunha
Saint Helena
Ascension Island
Tristan da Cunha
South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands
Sovereign Base Areas of Akrotiri and Dhekelia
Turks and Caicos Islands
South Sandwich Islands,
It’s not the Jewell in the Empire, no, no one lives there
It isn’t much of an Empire, just out of interest how much moment do these places contribute to the British economy?
Actually there’s a vast number of British and foreign Finance businesses registered in at least seven of those. We all know that whether it’s 3 or 33 percent of British GDP it will never be of sufficient “moment” to satisfy the whiners.
Wow, as high as that? Did you know it costs over 60 million a years to ‘defend ‘ the Falkland Islands, which works out at £20,000 per inhabitant really that much ffs give it back to the argies who gives a fuck about a piece of rock thousands of miles away "Exactly, a total waste of money, | |||
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"Nobody knows the answer to the OPs question until there’s a vote, or two. I can say that I really don’t care if countries can’t see the benefits of being in the British Empire and want to leave. Fine, go. We are now free to forge new alliances more in line with our national interests. Who are the members of the ‘British Empire ‘ ?
Anguilla
Bermuda
British Antarctic Territory
British Indian Ocean Territory
British Virgin Islands
Cayman Islands
Falkland Islands
Gibraltar
Montserrat
Pitcairn Islands
Saint Helena, Ascension and Tristan da Cunha
Saint Helena
Ascension Island
Tristan da Cunha
South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands
Sovereign Base Areas of Akrotiri and Dhekelia
Turks and Caicos Islands
South Sandwich Islands,
It’s not the Jewell in the Empire, no, no one lives there
It isn’t much of an Empire, just out of interest how much moment do these places contribute to the British economy?
Actually there’s a vast number of British and foreign Finance businesses registered in at least seven of those. We all know that whether it’s 3 or 33 percent of British GDP it will never be of sufficient “moment” to satisfy the whiners.
Wow, as high as that? Did you know it costs over 60 million a years to ‘defend ‘ the Falkland Islands, which works out at £20,000 per inhabitant really that much ffs give it back to the argies who gives a fuck about a piece of rock thousands of miles away
Exactly, a total waste of money, "You wouldnt say that if you considered yourself British like the falkland islanders do and was just left by your country to become homeless. | |||
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"Nobody knows the answer to the OPs question until there’s a vote, or two. I can say that I really don’t care if countries can’t see the benefits of being in the British Empire and want to leave. Fine, go. We are now free to forge new alliances more in line with our national interests. Who are the members of the ‘British Empire ‘ ?
Anguilla
Bermuda
British Antarctic Territory
British Indian Ocean Territory
British Virgin Islands
Cayman Islands
Falkland Islands
Gibraltar
Montserrat
Pitcairn Islands
Saint Helena, Ascension and Tristan da Cunha
Saint Helena
Ascension Island
Tristan da Cunha
South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands
Sovereign Base Areas of Akrotiri and Dhekelia
Turks and Caicos Islands
South Sandwich Islands,
It’s not the Jewell in the Empire, no, no one lives there
It isn’t much of an Empire, just out of interest how much moment do these places contribute to the British economy?
Actually there’s a vast number of British and foreign Finance businesses registered in at least seven of those. We all know that whether it’s 3 or 33 percent of British GDP it will never be of sufficient “moment” to satisfy the whiners.
Wow, as high as that? Did you know it costs over 60 million a years to ‘defend ‘ the Falkland Islands, which works out at £20,000 per inhabitant really that much ffs give it back to the argies who gives a fuck about a piece of rock thousands of miles away
Exactly, a total waste of money, You wouldnt say that if you considered yourself British like the falkland islanders do and was just left by your country to become homeless."Are they very patriotic over there? | |||
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"Nobody knows the answer to the OPs question until there’s a vote, or two. I can say that I really don’t care if countries can’t see the benefits of being in the British Empire and want to leave. Fine, go. We are now free to forge new alliances more in line with our national interests. Who are the members of the ‘British Empire ‘ ?
Anguilla
Bermuda
British Antarctic Territory
British Indian Ocean Territory
British Virgin Islands
Cayman Islands
Falkland Islands
Gibraltar
Montserrat
Pitcairn Islands
Saint Helena, Ascension and Tristan da Cunha
Saint Helena
Ascension Island
Tristan da Cunha
South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands
Sovereign Base Areas of Akrotiri and Dhekelia
Turks and Caicos Islands
South Sandwich Islands,
It’s not the Jewell in the Empire, no, no one lives there
It isn’t much of an Empire, just out of interest how much moment do these places contribute to the British economy?
Actually there’s a vast number of British and foreign Finance businesses registered in at least seven of those. We all know that whether it’s 3 or 33 percent of British GDP it will never be of sufficient “moment” to satisfy the whiners.
Wow, as high as that? Did you know it costs over 60 million a years to ‘defend ‘ the Falkland Islands, which works out at £20,000 per inhabitant really that much ffs give it back to the argies who gives a fuck about a piece of rock thousands of miles away
Exactly, a total waste of money, You wouldnt say that if you considered yourself British like the falkland islanders do and was just left by your country to become homeless."not that many of them that we couldn’t offer them a home here it’s just not worth the money or the hassle for a piece of rock mate definitely wasn’t worth a war or the lives | |||
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"Nobody knows the answer to the OPs question until there’s a vote, or two. I can say that I really don’t care if countries can’t see the benefits of being in the British Empire and want to leave. Fine, go. We are now free to forge new alliances more in line with our national interests. Who are the members of the ‘British Empire ‘ ?
Anguilla
Bermuda
British Antarctic Territory
British Indian Ocean Territory
British Virgin Islands
Cayman Islands
Falkland Islands
Gibraltar
Montserrat
Pitcairn Islands
Saint Helena, Ascension and Tristan da Cunha
Saint Helena
Ascension Island
Tristan da Cunha
South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands
Sovereign Base Areas of Akrotiri and Dhekelia
Turks and Caicos Islands
South Sandwich Islands,
It’s not the Jewell in the Empire, no, no one lives there
It isn’t much of an Empire, just out of interest how much moment do these places contribute to the British economy?
Actually there’s a vast number of British and foreign Finance businesses registered in at least seven of those. We all know that whether it’s 3 or 33 percent of British GDP it will never be of sufficient “moment” to satisfy the whiners.
Wow, as high as that? Did you know it costs over 60 million a years to ‘defend ‘ the Falkland Islands, which works out at £20,000 per inhabitant really that much ffs give it back to the argies who gives a fuck about a piece of rock thousands of miles away
Exactly, a total waste of money, You wouldnt say that if you considered yourself British like the falkland islanders do and was just left by your country to become homeless.
Are they very patriotic over there?"seems so "Do you wish the Falkland Islands to retain their current political status as an Overseas Territory of the United Kingdom?" A referendum on political status was held in the Falkland Islands on 10–11 March 2013. ... On a turnout of 92%, 99.8% voted to remain a British territory, with only three votes against. | |||
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"My personal feelings are it won't happen.but I'd be happy for them all to have a referendum and if voted leave but it must mean leave no help no yrs before vote Thursday leave Friday." I’d be happy with that aswell | |||
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"Nobody knows the answer to the OPs question until there’s a vote, or two. I can say that I really don’t care if countries can’t see the benefits of being in the British Empire and want to leave. Fine, go. We are now free to forge new alliances more in line with our national interests. Who are the members of the ‘British Empire ‘ ?
Anguilla
Bermuda
British Antarctic Territory
British Indian Ocean Territory
British Virgin Islands
Cayman Islands
Falkland Islands
Gibraltar
Montserrat
Pitcairn Islands
Saint Helena, Ascension and Tristan da Cunha
Saint Helena
Ascension Island
Tristan da Cunha
South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands
Sovereign Base Areas of Akrotiri and Dhekelia
Turks and Caicos Islands
South Sandwich Islands,
It’s not the Jewell in the Empire, no, no one lives there
It isn’t much of an Empire, just out of interest how much moment do these places contribute to the British economy?
Money
Actually “moment” was acceptable usage, it’s a synonym for importance. I’d have stuck with it, makes you look like you have a bigger vocabulary
Back to the question...
How stable is the Union ?
And what are your predictions for its future amid the rise in regional calls for independence.
"Put us out of our misery OP, what’s the “right” answer? (Seeing as you’re one of those who can never ask a genuine open question.) | |||
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"Nobody knows the answer to the OPs question until there’s a vote, or two. I can say that I really don’t care if countries can’t see the benefits of being in the British Empire and want to leave. Fine, go. We are now free to forge new alliances more in line with our national interests. Who are the members of the ‘British Empire ‘ ?
Anguilla
Bermuda
British Antarctic Territory
British Indian Ocean Territory
British Virgin Islands
Cayman Islands
Falkland Islands
Gibraltar
Montserrat
Pitcairn Islands
Saint Helena, Ascension and Tristan da Cunha
Saint Helena
Ascension Island
Tristan da Cunha
South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands
Sovereign Base Areas of Akrotiri and Dhekelia
Turks and Caicos Islands
South Sandwich Islands,
It’s not the Jewell in the Empire, no, no one lives there
It isn’t much of an Empire, just out of interest how much moment do these places contribute to the British economy?
Actually there’s a vast number of British and foreign Finance businesses registered in at least seven of those. We all know that whether it’s 3 or 33 percent of British GDP it will never be of sufficient “moment” to satisfy the whiners.
Wow, as high as that? Did you know it costs over 60 million a years to ‘defend ‘ the Falkland Islands, which works out at £20,000 per inhabitant really that much ffs give it back to the argies who gives a fuck about a piece of rock thousands of miles away
Exactly, a total waste of money, You wouldnt say that if you considered yourself British like the falkland islanders do and was just left by your country to become homeless.
Are they very patriotic over there?seems so
"Do you wish the Falkland Islands to retain their current political status as an Overseas Territory of the United Kingdom?" A referendum on political status was held in the Falkland Islands on 10–11 March 2013. ... On a turnout of 92%, 99.8% voted to remain a British territory, with only three votes against."Irrelevant, the cost of ‘defending’ less than 3000 people is too much and not necessary. | |||
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"Nobody knows the answer to the OPs question until there’s a vote, or two. I can say that I really don’t care if countries can’t see the benefits of being in the British Empire and want to leave. Fine, go. We are now free to forge new alliances more in line with our national interests. Who are the members of the ‘British Empire ‘ ?
Anguilla
Bermuda
British Antarctic Territory
British Indian Ocean Territory
British Virgin Islands
Cayman Islands
Falkland Islands
Gibraltar
Montserrat
Pitcairn Islands
Saint Helena, Ascension and Tristan da Cunha
Saint Helena
Ascension Island
Tristan da Cunha
South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands
Sovereign Base Areas of Akrotiri and Dhekelia
Turks and Caicos Islands
South Sandwich Islands,
It’s not the Jewell in the Empire, no, no one lives there
It isn’t much of an Empire, just out of interest how much moment do these places contribute to the British economy?
Actually there’s a vast number of British and foreign Finance businesses registered in at least seven of those. We all know that whether it’s 3 or 33 percent of British GDP it will never be of sufficient “moment” to satisfy the whiners.
Wow, as high as that? Did you know it costs over 60 million a years to ‘defend ‘ the Falkland Islands, which works out at £20,000 per inhabitant really that much ffs give it back to the argies who gives a fuck about a piece of rock thousands of miles away
Exactly, a total waste of money, You wouldnt say that if you considered yourself British like the falkland islanders do and was just left by your country to become homeless."Why wound they become ‘homeless’ ? | |||
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"Nobody knows the answer to the OPs question until there’s a vote, or two. I can say that I really don’t care if countries can’t see the benefits of being in the British Empire and want to leave. Fine, go. We are now free to forge new alliances more in line with our national interests. Who are the members of the ‘British Empire ‘ ?
Anguilla
Bermuda
British Antarctic Territory
British Indian Ocean Territory
British Virgin Islands
Cayman Islands
Falkland Islands
Gibraltar
Montserrat
Pitcairn Islands
Saint Helena, Ascension and Tristan da Cunha
Saint Helena
Ascension Island
Tristan da Cunha
South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands
Sovereign Base Areas of Akrotiri and Dhekelia
Turks and Caicos Islands
South Sandwich Islands,
It’s not the Jewell in the Empire, no, no one lives there
It isn’t much of an Empire, just out of interest how much moment do these places contribute to the British economy?
Actually there’s a vast number of British and foreign Finance businesses registered in at least seven of those. We all know that whether it’s 3 or 33 percent of British GDP it will never be of sufficient “moment” to satisfy the whiners.
Wow, as high as that? Did you know it costs over 60 million a years to ‘defend ‘ the Falkland Islands, which works out at £20,000 per inhabitant really that much ffs give it back to the argies who gives a fuck about a piece of rock thousands of miles away
Exactly, a total waste of money, You wouldnt say that if you considered yourself British like the falkland islanders do and was just left by your country to become homeless.
Why wound they become ‘homeless’ ? "Was you not around during the falklands? no probably too young to remember. | |||
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"Nobody knows the answer to the OPs question until there’s a vote, or two. I can say that I really don’t care if countries can’t see the benefits of being in the British Empire and want to leave. Fine, go. We are now free to forge new alliances more in line with our national interests. Who are the members of the ‘British Empire ‘ ?
Anguilla
Bermuda
British Antarctic Territory
British Indian Ocean Territory
British Virgin Islands
Cayman Islands
Falkland Islands
Gibraltar
Montserrat
Pitcairn Islands
Saint Helena, Ascension and Tristan da Cunha
Saint Helena
Ascension Island
Tristan da Cunha
South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands
Sovereign Base Areas of Akrotiri and Dhekelia
Turks and Caicos Islands
South Sandwich Islands,
It’s not the Jewell in the Empire, no, no one lives there
It isn’t much of an Empire, just out of interest how much moment do these places contribute to the British economy?
Actually there’s a vast number of British and foreign Finance businesses registered in at least seven of those. We all know that whether it’s 3 or 33 percent of British GDP it will never be of sufficient “moment” to satisfy the whiners.
Wow, as high as that? Did you know it costs over 60 million a years to ‘defend ‘ the Falkland Islands, which works out at £20,000 per inhabitant really that much ffs give it back to the argies who gives a fuck about a piece of rock thousands of miles away
Exactly, a total waste of money, You wouldnt say that if you considered yourself British like the falkland islanders do and was just left by your country to become homeless.
Are they very patriotic over there?seems so
"Do you wish the Falkland Islands to retain their current political status as an Overseas Territory of the United Kingdom?" A referendum on political status was held in the Falkland Islands on 10–11 March 2013. ... On a turnout of 92%, 99.8% voted to remain a British territory, with only three votes against."They love the country that much they live 3000 miles away. | |||
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"Nobody knows the answer to the OPs question until there’s a vote, or two. I can say that I really don’t care if countries can’t see the benefits of being in the British Empire and want to leave. Fine, go. We are now free to forge new alliances more in line with our national interests. Who are the members of the ‘British Empire ‘ ?
Anguilla
Bermuda
British Antarctic Territory
British Indian Ocean Territory
British Virgin Islands
Cayman Islands
Falkland Islands
Gibraltar
Montserrat
Pitcairn Islands
Saint Helena, Ascension and Tristan da Cunha
Saint Helena
Ascension Island
Tristan da Cunha
South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands
Sovereign Base Areas of Akrotiri and Dhekelia
Turks and Caicos Islands
South Sandwich Islands,
It’s not the Jewell in the Empire, no, no one lives there
It isn’t much of an Empire, just out of interest how much moment do these places contribute to the British economy?
Actually there’s a vast number of British and foreign Finance businesses registered in at least seven of those. We all know that whether it’s 3 or 33 percent of British GDP it will never be of sufficient “moment” to satisfy the whiners.
Wow, as high as that? Did you know it costs over 60 million a years to ‘defend ‘ the Falkland Islands, which works out at £20,000 per inhabitant really that much ffs give it back to the argies who gives a fuck about a piece of rock thousands of miles away
Exactly, a total waste of money, You wouldnt say that if you considered yourself British like the falkland islanders do and was just left by your country to become homeless.
Are they very patriotic over there?seems so
"Do you wish the Falkland Islands to retain their current political status as an Overseas Territory of the United Kingdom?" A referendum on political status was held in the Falkland Islands on 10–11 March 2013. ... On a turnout of 92%, 99.8% voted to remain a British territory, with only three votes against.
They love the country that much they live 3000 miles away."a bit like Richard Branson then lol | |||
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"Nobody knows the answer to the OPs question until there’s a vote, or two. I can say that I really don’t care if countries can’t see the benefits of being in the British Empire and want to leave. Fine, go. We are now free to forge new alliances more in line with our national interests. Who are the members of the ‘British Empire ‘ ?
Anguilla
Bermuda
British Antarctic Territory
British Indian Ocean Territory
British Virgin Islands
Cayman Islands
Falkland Islands
Gibraltar
Montserrat
Pitcairn Islands
Saint Helena, Ascension and Tristan da Cunha
Saint Helena
Ascension Island
Tristan da Cunha
South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands
Sovereign Base Areas of Akrotiri and Dhekelia
Turks and Caicos Islands
South Sandwich Islands,
It’s not the Jewell in the Empire, no, no one lives there
It isn’t much of an Empire, just out of interest how much moment do these places contribute to the British economy?
Money
Actually “moment” was acceptable usage, it’s a synonym for importance. I’d have stuck with it, makes you look like you have a bigger vocabulary
Back to the question...
How stable is the Union ?
And what are your predictions for its future amid the rise in regional calls for independence.
Put us out of our misery OP, what’s the “right” answer?
(Seeing as you’re one of those who can never ask a genuine open question.)"There is no “right” answer ... The question is open .... How stable is the Union ? Is an open question inviting debate on if you believe the nations of the union will devolve into independent entities. Not a discussion on the contribution and upkeep of British Overseas Territories. How much more of an open question do you want ? | |||
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"Nobody knows the answer to the OPs question until there’s a vote, or two. I can say that I really don’t care if countries can’t see the benefits of being in the British Empire and want to leave. Fine, go. We are now free to forge new alliances more in line with our national interests. Who are the members of the ‘British Empire ‘ ?
Anguilla
Bermuda
British Antarctic Territory
British Indian Ocean Territory
British Virgin Islands
Cayman Islands
Falkland Islands
Gibraltar
Montserrat
Pitcairn Islands
Saint Helena, Ascension and Tristan da Cunha
Saint Helena
Ascension Island
Tristan da Cunha
South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands
Sovereign Base Areas of Akrotiri and Dhekelia
Turks and Caicos Islands
South Sandwich Islands,
It’s not the Jewell in the Empire, no, no one lives there
It isn’t much of an Empire, just out of interest how much moment do these places contribute to the British economy?
Actually there’s a vast number of British and foreign Finance businesses registered in at least seven of those. We all know that whether it’s 3 or 33 percent of British GDP it will never be of sufficient “moment” to satisfy the whiners.
Wow, as high as that? Did you know it costs over 60 million a years to ‘defend ‘ the Falkland Islands, which works out at £20,000 per inhabitant really that much ffs give it back to the argies who gives a fuck about a piece of rock thousands of miles away
Exactly, a total waste of money, You wouldnt say that if you considered yourself British like the falkland islanders do and was just left by your country to become homeless.
Are they very patriotic over there?seems so
"Do you wish the Falkland Islands to retain their current political status as an Overseas Territory of the United Kingdom?" A referendum on political status was held in the Falkland Islands on 10–11 March 2013. ... On a turnout of 92%, 99.8% voted to remain a British territory, with only three votes against.
They love the country that much they live 3000 miles away.a bit like Richard Branson then lol"Brandon's island has a toilet with glass walls. So he had poop and survey his lands at the same time. | |||
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"Nobody knows the answer to the OPs question until there’s a vote, or two. I can say that I really don’t care if countries can’t see the benefits of being in the British Empire and want to leave. Fine, go. We are now free to forge new alliances more in line with our national interests. Who are the members of the ‘British Empire ‘ ?
Anguilla
Bermuda
British Antarctic Territory
British Indian Ocean Territory
British Virgin Islands
Cayman Islands
Falkland Islands
Gibraltar
Montserrat
Pitcairn Islands
Saint Helena, Ascension and Tristan da Cunha
Saint Helena
Ascension Island
Tristan da Cunha
South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands
Sovereign Base Areas of Akrotiri and Dhekelia
Turks and Caicos Islands
South Sandwich Islands,
It’s not the Jewell in the Empire, no, no one lives there
It isn’t much of an Empire, just out of interest how much moment do these places contribute to the British economy?
Actually there’s a vast number of British and foreign Finance businesses registered in at least seven of those. We all know that whether it’s 3 or 33 percent of British GDP it will never be of sufficient “moment” to satisfy the whiners.
Wow, as high as that? Did you know it costs over 60 million a years to ‘defend ‘ the Falkland Islands, which works out at £20,000 per inhabitant really that much ffs give it back to the argies who gives a fuck about a piece of rock thousands of miles away
Exactly, a total waste of money, You wouldnt say that if you considered yourself British like the falkland islanders do and was just left by your country to become homeless.
Are they very patriotic over there?seems so
"Do you wish the Falkland Islands to retain their current political status as an Overseas Territory of the United Kingdom?" A referendum on political status was held in the Falkland Islands on 10–11 March 2013. ... On a turnout of 92%, 99.8% voted to remain a British territory, with only three votes against.
Irrelevant, the cost of ‘defending’ less than 3000 people is too much and not necessary. "You misunderstand the costs involved. That is a base level of military funding that treats the Falklands, much like Belize or in the old days Northern Ireland, as an ideal training ground for our troops, re convoys, landings, close air support etc. It is not an additional cost, training has to take place somewhere. 60 million is peanuts. | |||
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"Nobody knows the answer to the OPs question until there’s a vote, or two. I can say that I really don’t care if countries can’t see the benefits of being in the British Empire and want to leave. Fine, go. We are now free to forge new alliances more in line with our national interests. Who are the members of the ‘British Empire ‘ ?
Anguilla
Bermuda
British Antarctic Territory
British Indian Ocean Territory
British Virgin Islands
Cayman Islands
Falkland Islands
Gibraltar
Montserrat
Pitcairn Islands
Saint Helena, Ascension and Tristan da Cunha
Saint Helena
Ascension Island
Tristan da Cunha
South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands
Sovereign Base Areas of Akrotiri and Dhekelia
Turks and Caicos Islands
South Sandwich Islands,
It’s not the Jewell in the Empire, no, no one lives there
It isn’t much of an Empire, just out of interest how much moment do these places contribute to the British economy?
Money
Actually “moment” was acceptable usage, it’s a synonym for importance. I’d have stuck with it, makes you look like you have a bigger vocabulary
Back to the question...
How stable is the Union ?
And what are your predictions for its future amid the rise in regional calls for independence.
Put us out of our misery OP, what’s the “right” answer?
(Seeing as you’re one of those who can never ask a genuine open question.)
There is no “right” answer ...
The question is open .... How stable is the Union ? Is an open question inviting debate on if you believe the nations of the union will devolve into independent entities.
Not a discussion on the contribution and upkeep of British Overseas Territories.
How much more of an open question do you want ?
"Yes, 100% stable then. | |||
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"Nobody knows the answer to the OPs question until there’s a vote, or two. I can say that I really don’t care if countries can’t see the benefits of being in the British Empire and want to leave. Fine, go. We are now free to forge new alliances more in line with our national interests. Who are the members of the ‘British Empire ‘ ?
Anguilla
Bermuda
British Antarctic Territory
British Indian Ocean Territory
British Virgin Islands
Cayman Islands
Falkland Islands
Gibraltar
Montserrat
Pitcairn Islands
Saint Helena, Ascension and Tristan da Cunha
Saint Helena
Ascension Island
Tristan da Cunha
South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands
Sovereign Base Areas of Akrotiri and Dhekelia
Turks and Caicos Islands
South Sandwich Islands,
It’s not the Jewell in the Empire, no, no one lives there
It isn’t much of an Empire, just out of interest how much moment do these places contribute to the British economy?
Actually there’s a vast number of British and foreign Finance businesses registered in at least seven of those. We all know that whether it’s 3 or 33 percent of British GDP it will never be of sufficient “moment” to satisfy the whiners.
Wow, as high as that? Did you know it costs over 60 million a years to ‘defend ‘ the Falkland Islands, which works out at £20,000 per inhabitant really that much ffs give it back to the argies who gives a fuck about a piece of rock thousands of miles away
Exactly, a total waste of money, You wouldnt say that if you considered yourself British like the falkland islanders do and was just left by your country to become homeless.
Are they very patriotic over there?seems so
"Do you wish the Falkland Islands to retain their current political status as an Overseas Territory of the United Kingdom?" A referendum on political status was held in the Falkland Islands on 10–11 March 2013. ... On a turnout of 92%, 99.8% voted to remain a British territory, with only three votes against.
Irrelevant, the cost of ‘defending’ less than 3000 people is too much and not necessary.
You misunderstand the costs involved. That is a base level of military funding that treats the Falklands, much like Belize or in the old days Northern Ireland, as an ideal training ground for our troops, re convoys, landings, close air support etc.
It is not an additional cost, training has to take place somewhere. 60 million is peanuts."they could train of the islands off Scotland Hardly anyfucker lives there either | |||
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"Nobody knows the answer to the OPs question until there’s a vote, or two. I can say that I really don’t care if countries can’t see the benefits of being in the British Empire and want to leave. Fine, go. We are now free to forge new alliances more in line with our national interests. Who are the members of the ‘British Empire ‘ ?
Anguilla
Bermuda
British Antarctic Territory
British Indian Ocean Territory
British Virgin Islands
Cayman Islands
Falkland Islands
Gibraltar
Montserrat
Pitcairn Islands
Saint Helena, Ascension and Tristan da Cunha
Saint Helena
Ascension Island
Tristan da Cunha
South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands
Sovereign Base Areas of Akrotiri and Dhekelia
Turks and Caicos Islands
South Sandwich Islands,
It’s not the Jewell in the Empire, no, no one lives there
It isn’t much of an Empire, just out of interest how much moment do these places contribute to the British economy?
Actually there’s a vast number of British and foreign Finance businesses registered in at least seven of those. We all know that whether it’s 3 or 33 percent of British GDP it will never be of sufficient “moment” to satisfy the whiners.
Wow, as high as that? Did you know it costs over 60 million a years to ‘defend ‘ the Falkland Islands, which works out at £20,000 per inhabitant really that much ffs give it back to the argies who gives a fuck about a piece of rock thousands of miles away
Exactly, a total waste of money, You wouldnt say that if you considered yourself British like the falkland islanders do and was just left by your country to become homeless.
Are they very patriotic over there?seems so
"Do you wish the Falkland Islands to retain their current political status as an Overseas Territory of the United Kingdom?" A referendum on political status was held in the Falkland Islands on 10–11 March 2013. ... On a turnout of 92%, 99.8% voted to remain a British territory, with only three votes against.
Irrelevant, the cost of ‘defending’ less than 3000 people is too much and not necessary.
You misunderstand the costs involved. That is a base level of military funding that treats the Falklands, much like Belize or in the old days Northern Ireland, as an ideal training ground for our troops, re convoys, landings, close air support etc.
It is not an additional cost, training has to take place somewhere. 60 million is peanuts."Why do they have to travel 3,000 miles for training? As Foxi has stated, they could do all that in Scotland and why is £60 million pea nuts? | |||
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" It is not an additional cost, training has to take place somewhere. 60 million is peanuts.they could train of the islands off Scotland Hardly anyfucker lives there either " Discussion about the contribution and upkeep of British Overseas Territory is for another thread.. Keep on topic on the question posed. | |||
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"Nobody knows the answer to the OPs question until there’s a vote, or two. I can say that I really don’t care if countries can’t see the benefits of being in the British Empire and want to leave. Fine, go. We are now free to forge new alliances more in line with our national interests. Who are the members of the ‘British Empire ‘ ?
Anguilla
Bermuda
British Antarctic Territory
British Indian Ocean Territory
British Virgin Islands
Cayman Islands
Falkland Islands
Gibraltar
Montserrat
Pitcairn Islands
Saint Helena, Ascension and Tristan da Cunha
Saint Helena
Ascension Island
Tristan da Cunha
South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands
Sovereign Base Areas of Akrotiri and Dhekelia
Turks and Caicos Islands
South Sandwich Islands,
It’s not the Jewell in the Empire, no, no one lives there
It isn’t much of an Empire, just out of interest how much moment do these places contribute to the British economy?
Actually there’s a vast number of British and foreign Finance businesses registered in at least seven of those. We all know that whether it’s 3 or 33 percent of British GDP it will never be of sufficient “moment” to satisfy the whiners.
Wow, as high as that? Did you know it costs over 60 million a years to ‘defend ‘ the Falkland Islands, which works out at £20,000 per inhabitant really that much ffs give it back to the argies who gives a fuck about a piece of rock thousands of miles away
Exactly, a total waste of money, You wouldnt say that if you considered yourself British like the falkland islanders do and was just left by your country to become homeless.
Why wound they become ‘homeless’ ? Was you not around during the falklands? no probably too young to remember."No I wasn’t but I have read the book ‘The Battle for the Falklands’ interesting read . I will ask you again, at what point would the Falkland island inhabitants become homeless | |||
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" No I wasn’t but I have read the book ‘The Battle for the Falklands’ interesting read . I will ask you again, at what point would the Falkland island inhabitants become homeless " ENOUGH....!!! Stick to the question asked in the original post. | |||
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"It's quite surprising that the conservative and unionist party haven't got around to privatising the Falkland Islands yet." Stick to the original question... !!!! | |||
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"It's quite surprising that the conservative and unionist party haven't got around to privatising the Falkland Islands yet." I am sure they have given it some thought, | |||
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"It's quite surprising that the conservative and unionist party haven't got around to privatising the Falkland Islands yet. I am sure they have given it some thought, " Remain on topic and stick to the original question. ....!!! | |||
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"Nobody knows the answer to the OPs question until there’s a vote, or two. I can say that I really don’t care if countries can’t see the benefits of being in the British Empire and want to leave. Fine, go. We are now free to forge new alliances more in line with our national interests. Who are the members of the ‘British Empire ‘ ?
Anguilla
Bermuda
British Antarctic Territory
British Indian Ocean Territory
British Virgin Islands
Cayman Islands
Falkland Islands
Gibraltar
Montserrat
Pitcairn Islands
Saint Helena, Ascension and Tristan da Cunha
Saint Helena
Ascension Island
Tristan da Cunha
South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands
Sovereign Base Areas of Akrotiri and Dhekelia
Turks and Caicos Islands
South Sandwich Islands,
It’s not the Jewell in the Empire, no, no one lives there
It isn’t much of an Empire, just out of interest how much moment do these places contribute to the British economy?
Actually there’s a vast number of British and foreign Finance businesses registered in at least seven of those. We all know that whether it’s 3 or 33 percent of British GDP it will never be of sufficient “moment” to satisfy the whiners.
Wow, as high as that? Did you know it costs over 60 million a years to ‘defend ‘ the Falkland Islands, which works out at £20,000 per inhabitant really that much ffs give it back to the argies who gives a fuck about a piece of rock thousands of miles away
Exactly, a total waste of money, You wouldnt say that if you considered yourself British like the falkland islanders do and was just left by your country to become homeless.
Are they very patriotic over there?seems so
"Do you wish the Falkland Islands to retain their current political status as an Overseas Territory of the United Kingdom?" A referendum on political status was held in the Falkland Islands on 10–11 March 2013. ... On a turnout of 92%, 99.8% voted to remain a British territory, with only three votes against.
Irrelevant, the cost of ‘defending’ less than 3000 people is too much and not necessary.
You misunderstand the costs involved. That is a base level of military funding that treats the Falklands, much like Belize or in the old days Northern Ireland, as an ideal training ground for our troops, re convoys, landings, close air support etc.
It is not an additional cost, training has to take place somewhere. 60 million is peanuts.
Why do they have to travel 3,000 miles for training? As Foxi has stated, they could do all that in Scotland and why is £60 million pea nuts? "Do you want to volunteer to ask the Scots what they think about that? Can you film Nicola’s reaction, could do with a laugh? Do you have any concept of how much military equipment costs? One sidewinder missile retails at about 0.5 million quid. | |||
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"Nobody knows the answer to the OPs question until there’s a vote, or two. I can say that I really don’t care if countries can’t see the benefits of being in the British Empire and want to leave. Fine, go. We are now free to forge new alliances more in line with our national interests. Who are the members of the ‘British Empire ‘ ?
Anguilla
Bermuda
British Antarctic Territory
British Indian Ocean Territory
British Virgin Islands
Cayman Islands
Falkland Islands
Gibraltar
Montserrat
Pitcairn Islands
Saint Helena, Ascension and Tristan da Cunha
Saint Helena
Ascension Island
Tristan da Cunha
South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands
Sovereign Base Areas of Akrotiri and Dhekelia
Turks and Caicos Islands
South Sandwich Islands,
It’s not the Jewell in the Empire, no, no one lives there
It isn’t much of an Empire, just out of interest how much moment do these places contribute to the British economy?
Actually there’s a vast number of British and foreign Finance businesses registered in at least seven of those. We all know that whether it’s 3 or 33 percent of British GDP it will never be of sufficient “moment” to satisfy the whiners.
Wow, as high as that? Did you know it costs over 60 million a years to ‘defend ‘ the Falkland Islands, which works out at £20,000 per inhabitant really that much ffs give it back to the argies who gives a fuck about a piece of rock thousands of miles away
Exactly, a total waste of money, You wouldnt say that if you considered yourself British like the falkland islanders do and was just left by your country to become homeless.
Are they very patriotic over there?seems so
"Do you wish the Falkland Islands to retain their current political status as an Overseas Territory of the United Kingdom?" A referendum on political status was held in the Falkland Islands on 10–11 March 2013. ... On a turnout of 92%, 99.8% voted to remain a British territory, with only three votes against.
Irrelevant, the cost of ‘defending’ less than 3000 people is too much and not necessary.
You misunderstand the costs involved. That is a base level of military funding that treats the Falklands, much like Belize or in the old days Northern Ireland, as an ideal training ground for our troops, re convoys, landings, close air support etc.
It is not an additional cost, training has to take place somewhere. 60 million is peanuts.
Why do they have to travel 3,000 miles for training? As Foxi has stated, they could do all that in Scotland and why is £60 million pea nuts?
Do you want to volunteer to ask the Scots what they think about that? Can you film Nicola’s reaction, could do with a laugh?
Do you have any concept of how much military equipment costs? One sidewinder missile retails at about 0.5 million quid. "And? Ok, do it somewhere in England, do you realise the cost of transporting troops and military equipment over 3,000 miles for training? Your argument is non sensical | |||
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"Nobody knows the answer to the OPs question until there’s a vote, or two. I can say that I really don’t care if countries can’t see the benefits of being in the British Empire and want to leave. Fine, go. We are now free to forge new alliances more in line with our national interests. Who are the members of the ‘British Empire ‘ ?
Anguilla
Bermuda
British Antarctic Territory
British Indian Ocean Territory
British Virgin Islands
Cayman Islands
Falkland Islands
Gibraltar
Montserrat
Pitcairn Islands
Saint Helena, Ascension and Tristan da Cunha
Saint Helena
Ascension Island
Tristan da Cunha
South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands
Sovereign Base Areas of Akrotiri and Dhekelia
Turks and Caicos Islands
South Sandwich Islands,
It’s not the Jewell in the Empire, no, no one lives there
It isn’t much of an Empire, just out of interest how much moment do these places contribute to the British economy?
Actually there’s a vast number of British and foreign Finance businesses registered in at least seven of those. We all know that whether it’s 3 or 33 percent of British GDP it will never be of sufficient “moment” to satisfy the whiners.
Wow, as high as that? Did you know it costs over 60 million a years to ‘defend ‘ the Falkland Islands, which works out at £20,000 per inhabitant really that much ffs give it back to the argies who gives a fuck about a piece of rock thousands of miles away
Exactly, a total waste of money, You wouldnt say that if you considered yourself British like the falkland islanders do and was just left by your country to become homeless.
Are they very patriotic over there?seems so
"Do you wish the Falkland Islands to retain their current political status as an Overseas Territory of the United Kingdom?" A referendum on political status was held in the Falkland Islands on 10–11 March 2013. ... On a turnout of 92%, 99.8% voted to remain a British territory, with only three votes against.
Irrelevant, the cost of ‘defending’ less than 3000 people is too much and not necessary.
You misunderstand the costs involved. That is a base level of military funding that treats the Falklands, much like Belize or in the old days Northern Ireland, as an ideal training ground for our troops, re convoys, landings, close air support etc.
It is not an additional cost, training has to take place somewhere. 60 million is peanuts.
Why do they have to travel 3,000 miles for training? As Foxi has stated, they could do all that in Scotland and why is £60 million pea nuts?
Do you want to volunteer to ask the Scots what they think about that? Can you film Nicola’s reaction, could do with a laugh?
Do you have any concept of how much military equipment costs? One sidewinder missile retails at about 0.5 million quid.
And? Ok, do it somewhere in England, do you realise the cost of transporting troops and military equipment over 3,000 miles for training
? Your argument is non sensical "Fire sidewinders over Milton Keynes? Are you insane? | |||
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"Nobody knows the answer to the OPs question until there’s a vote, or two. I can say that I really don’t care if countries can’t see the benefits of being in the British Empire and want to leave. Fine, go. We are now free to forge new alliances more in line with our national interests. Who are the members of the ‘British Empire ‘ ?
Anguilla
Bermuda
British Antarctic Territory
British Indian Ocean Territory
British Virgin Islands
Cayman Islands
Falkland Islands
Gibraltar
Montserrat
Pitcairn Islands
Saint Helena, Ascension and Tristan da Cunha
Saint Helena
Ascension Island
Tristan da Cunha
South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands
Sovereign Base Areas of Akrotiri and Dhekelia
Turks and Caicos Islands
South Sandwich Islands,
It’s not the Jewell in the Empire, no, no one lives there
It isn’t much of an Empire, just out of interest how much moment do these places contribute to the British economy?
Actually there’s a vast number of British and foreign Finance businesses registered in at least seven of those. We all know that whether it’s 3 or 33 percent of British GDP it will never be of sufficient “moment” to satisfy the whiners.
Wow, as high as that? Did you know it costs over 60 million a years to ‘defend ‘ the Falkland Islands, which works out at £20,000 per inhabitant really that much ffs give it back to the argies who gives a fuck about a piece of rock thousands of miles away
Exactly, a total waste of money, You wouldnt say that if you considered yourself British like the falkland islanders do and was just left by your country to become homeless.
Are they very patriotic over there?seems so
"Do you wish the Falkland Islands to retain their current political status as an Overseas Territory of the United Kingdom?" A referendum on political status was held in the Falkland Islands on 10–11 March 2013. ... On a turnout of 92%, 99.8% voted to remain a British territory, with only three votes against.
Irrelevant, the cost of ‘defending’ less than 3000 people is too much and not necessary.
You misunderstand the costs involved. That is a base level of military funding that treats the Falklands, much like Belize or in the old days Northern Ireland, as an ideal training ground for our troops, re convoys, landings, close air support etc.
It is not an additional cost, training has to take place somewhere. 60 million is peanuts.
Why do they have to travel 3,000 miles for training? As Foxi has stated, they could do all that in Scotland and why is £60 million pea nuts?
Do you want to volunteer to ask the Scots what they think about that? Can you film Nicola’s reaction, could do with a laugh?
Do you have any concept of how much military equipment costs? One sidewinder missile retails at about 0.5 million quid.
And? Ok, do it somewhere in England, do you realise the cost of transporting troops and military equipment over 3,000 miles for training
? Your argument is non sensical
Fire sidewinders over Milton Keynes? Are you insane?"Is Milton Keynes the only option ? | |||
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Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) | |||
"Nobody knows the answer to the OPs question until there’s a vote, or two. I can say that I really don’t care if countries can’t see the benefits of being in the British Empire and want to leave. Fine, go. We are now free to forge new alliances more in line with our national interests. Who are the members of the ‘British Empire ‘ ?
Anguilla
Bermuda
British Antarctic Territory
British Indian Ocean Territory
British Virgin Islands
Cayman Islands
Falkland Islands
Gibraltar
Montserrat
Pitcairn Islands
Saint Helena, Ascension and Tristan da Cunha
Saint Helena
Ascension Island
Tristan da Cunha
South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands
Sovereign Base Areas of Akrotiri and Dhekelia
Turks and Caicos Islands
South Sandwich Islands,
It’s not the Jewell in the Empire, no, no one lives there
It isn’t much of an Empire, just out of interest how much moment do these places contribute to the British economy?
Actually there’s a vast number of British and foreign Finance businesses registered in at least seven of those. We all know that whether it’s 3 or 33 percent of British GDP it will never be of sufficient “moment” to satisfy the whiners.
Wow, as high as that? Did you know it costs over 60 million a years to ‘defend ‘ the Falkland Islands, which works out at £20,000 per inhabitant really that much ffs give it back to the argies who gives a fuck about a piece of rock thousands of miles away
Exactly, a total waste of money, You wouldnt say that if you considered yourself British like the falkland islanders do and was just left by your country to become homeless.
Are they very patriotic over there?seems so
"Do you wish the Falkland Islands to retain their current political status as an Overseas Territory of the United Kingdom?" A referendum on political status was held in the Falkland Islands on 10–11 March 2013. ... On a turnout of 92%, 99.8% voted to remain a British territory, with only three votes against.
Irrelevant, the cost of ‘defending’ less than 3000 people is too much and not necessary.
You misunderstand the costs involved. That is a base level of military funding that treats the Falklands, much like Belize or in the old days Northern Ireland, as an ideal training ground for our troops, re convoys, landings, close air support etc.
It is not an additional cost, training has to take place somewhere. 60 million is peanuts.
Why do they have to travel 3,000 miles for training? As Foxi has stated, they could do all that in Scotland and why is £60 million pea nuts?
Do you want to volunteer to ask the Scots what they think about that? Can you film Nicola’s reaction, could do with a laugh?
Do you have any concept of how much military equipment costs? One sidewinder missile retails at about 0.5 million quid.
And? Ok, do it somewhere in England, do you realise the cost of transporting troops and military equipment over 3,000 miles for training
? Your argument is non sensical
Fire sidewinders over Milton Keynes? Are you insane?
Is Milton Keynes the only option ? "It’s not a bad option TBF now I think about it. | |||
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"Nobody knows the answer to the OPs question until there’s a vote, or two. I can say that I really don’t care if countries can’t see the benefits of being in the British Empire and want to leave. Fine, go. We are now free to forge new alliances more in line with our national interests. Who are the members of the ‘British Empire ‘ ?
Anguilla
Bermuda
British Antarctic Territory
British Indian Ocean Territory
British Virgin Islands
Cayman Islands
Falkland Islands
Gibraltar
Montserrat
Pitcairn Islands
Saint Helena, Ascension and Tristan da Cunha
Saint Helena
Ascension Island
Tristan da Cunha
South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands
Sovereign Base Areas of Akrotiri and Dhekelia
Turks and Caicos Islands
South Sandwich Islands,
It’s not the Jewell in the Empire, no, no one lives there
It isn’t much of an Empire, just out of interest how much moment do these places contribute to the British economy?
Actually there’s a vast number of British and foreign Finance businesses registered in at least seven of those. We all know that whether it’s 3 or 33 percent of British GDP it will never be of sufficient “moment” to satisfy the whiners.
Wow, as high as that? Did you know it costs over 60 million a years to ‘defend ‘ the Falkland Islands, which works out at £20,000 per inhabitant really that much ffs give it back to the argies who gives a fuck about a piece of rock thousands of miles away
Exactly, a total waste of money, You wouldnt say that if you considered yourself British like the falkland islanders do and was just left by your country to become homeless.
Are they very patriotic over there?seems so
"Do you wish the Falkland Islands to retain their current political status as an Overseas Territory of the United Kingdom?" A referendum on political status was held in the Falkland Islands on 10–11 March 2013. ... On a turnout of 92%, 99.8% voted to remain a British territory, with only three votes against.
Irrelevant, the cost of ‘defending’ less than 3000 people is too much and not necessary.
You misunderstand the costs involved. That is a base level of military funding that treats the Falklands, much like Belize or in the old days Northern Ireland, as an ideal training ground for our troops, re convoys, landings, close air support etc.
It is not an additional cost, training has to take place somewhere. 60 million is peanuts.
Why do they have to travel 3,000 miles for training? As Foxi has stated, they could do all that in Scotland and why is £60 million pea nuts?
Do you want to volunteer to ask the Scots what they think about that? Can you film Nicola’s reaction, could do with a laugh?
Do you have any concept of how much military equipment costs? One sidewinder missile retails at about 0.5 million quid.
And? Ok, do it somewhere in England, do you realise the cost of transporting troops and military equipment over 3,000 miles for training
? Your argument is non sensical
Fire sidewinders over Milton Keynes? Are you insane?
Is Milton Keynes the only option ?
It’s not a bad option TBF now I think about it."There are over 136 uninhabited islands that are part of the British Isles | |||
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"Nobody knows the answer to the OPs question until there’s a vote, or two. I can say that I really don’t care if countries can’t see the benefits of being in the British Empire and want to leave. Fine, go. We are now free to forge new alliances more in line with our national interests. Who are the members of the ‘British Empire ‘ ?
Anguilla
Bermuda
British Antarctic Territory
British Indian Ocean Territory
British Virgin Islands
Cayman Islands
Falkland Islands
Gibraltar
Montserrat
Pitcairn Islands
Saint Helena, Ascension and Tristan da Cunha
Saint Helena
Ascension Island
Tristan da Cunha
South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands
Sovereign Base Areas of Akrotiri and Dhekelia
Turks and Caicos Islands
South Sandwich Islands,
It’s not the Jewell in the Empire, no, no one lives there
It isn’t much of an Empire, just out of interest how much moment do these places contribute to the British economy?
Actually there’s a vast number of British and foreign Finance businesses registered in at least seven of those. We all know that whether it’s 3 or 33 percent of British GDP it will never be of sufficient “moment” to satisfy the whiners.
Wow, as high as that? Did you know it costs over 60 million a years to ‘defend ‘ the Falkland Islands, which works out at £20,000 per inhabitant really that much ffs give it back to the argies who gives a fuck about a piece of rock thousands of miles away
Exactly, a total waste of money, You wouldnt say that if you considered yourself British like the falkland islanders do and was just left by your country to become homeless.
Are they very patriotic over there?seems so
"Do you wish the Falkland Islands to retain their current political status as an Overseas Territory of the United Kingdom?" A referendum on political status was held in the Falkland Islands on 10–11 March 2013. ... On a turnout of 92%, 99.8% voted to remain a British territory, with only three votes against.
Irrelevant, the cost of ‘defending’ less than 3000 people is too much and not necessary.
You misunderstand the costs involved. That is a base level of military funding that treats the Falklands, much like Belize or in the old days Northern Ireland, as an ideal training ground for our troops, re convoys, landings, close air support etc.
It is not an additional cost, training has to take place somewhere. 60 million is peanuts.
Why do they have to travel 3,000 miles for training? As Foxi has stated, they could do all that in Scotland and why is £60 million pea nuts?
Do you want to volunteer to ask the Scots what they think about that? Can you film Nicola’s reaction, could do with a laugh?
Do you have any concept of how much military equipment costs? One sidewinder missile retails at about 0.5 million quid.
And? Ok, do it somewhere in England, do you realise the cost of transporting troops and military equipment over 3,000 miles for training
? Your argument is non sensical
Fire sidewinders over Milton Keynes? Are you insane?
Is Milton Keynes the only option ?
It’s not a bad option TBF now I think about it.
There are over 136 uninhabited islands that are part of the British Isles "How many of those are not protected by the RSPB, EH, NT, etc etc ? | |||
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"Nobody knows the answer to the OPs question until there’s a vote, or two. I can say that I really don’t care if countries can’t see the benefits of being in the British Empire and want to leave. Fine, go. We are now free to forge new alliances more in line with our national interests. Who are the members of the ‘British Empire ‘ ?
Anguilla
Bermuda
British Antarctic Territory
British Indian Ocean Territory
British Virgin Islands
Cayman Islands
Falkland Islands
Gibraltar
Montserrat
Pitcairn Islands
Saint Helena, Ascension and Tristan da Cunha
Saint Helena
Ascension Island
Tristan da Cunha
South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands
Sovereign Base Areas of Akrotiri and Dhekelia
Turks and Caicos Islands
South Sandwich Islands,
It’s not the Jewell in the Empire, no, no one lives there
It isn’t much of an Empire, just out of interest how much moment do these places contribute to the British economy?
Actually there’s a vast number of British and foreign Finance businesses registered in at least seven of those. We all know that whether it’s 3 or 33 percent of British GDP it will never be of sufficient “moment” to satisfy the whiners.
Wow, as high as that? Did you know it costs over 60 million a years to ‘defend ‘ the Falkland Islands, which works out at £20,000 per inhabitant really that much ffs give it back to the argies who gives a fuck about a piece of rock thousands of miles away
Exactly, a total waste of money, You wouldnt say that if you considered yourself British like the falkland islanders do and was just left by your country to become homeless.
Are they very patriotic over there?seems so
"Do you wish the Falkland Islands to retain their current political status as an Overseas Territory of the United Kingdom?" A referendum on political status was held in the Falkland Islands on 10–11 March 2013. ... On a turnout of 92%, 99.8% voted to remain a British territory, with only three votes against.
Irrelevant, the cost of ‘defending’ less than 3000 people is too much and not necessary.
You misunderstand the costs involved. That is a base level of military funding that treats the Falklands, much like Belize or in the old days Northern Ireland, as an ideal training ground for our troops, re convoys, landings, close air support etc.
It is not an additional cost, training has to take place somewhere. 60 million is peanuts.
Why do they have to travel 3,000 miles for training? As Foxi has stated, they could do all that in Scotland and why is £60 million pea nuts?
Do you want to volunteer to ask the Scots what they think about that? Can you film Nicola’s reaction, could do with a laugh?
Do you have any concept of how much military equipment costs? One sidewinder missile retails at about 0.5 million quid.
And? Ok, do it somewhere in England, do you realise the cost of transporting troops and military equipment over 3,000 miles for training
? Your argument is non sensical
Fire sidewinders over Milton Keynes? Are you insane?
Is Milton Keynes the only option ?
It’s not a bad option TBF now I think about it.
There are over 136 uninhabited islands that are part of the British Isles
How many of those are not protected by the RSPB, EH, NT, etc etc ?"I don’t know, why don’t you find out? Let me know when you do | |||
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"Nobody knows the answer to the OPs question until there’s a vote, or two. I can say that I really don’t care if countries can’t see the benefits of being in the British Empire and want to leave. Fine, go. We are now free to forge new alliances more in line with our national interests. Who are the members of the ‘British Empire ‘ ?
Anguilla
Bermuda
British Antarctic Territory
British Indian Ocean Territory
British Virgin Islands
Cayman Islands
Falkland Islands
Gibraltar
Montserrat
Pitcairn Islands
Saint Helena, Ascension and Tristan da Cunha
Saint Helena
Ascension Island
Tristan da Cunha
South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands
Sovereign Base Areas of Akrotiri and Dhekelia
Turks and Caicos Islands
South Sandwich Islands,
It’s not the Jewell in the Empire, no, no one lives there
It isn’t much of an Empire, just out of interest how much moment do these places contribute to the British economy?
Actually there’s a vast number of British and foreign Finance businesses registered in at least seven of those. We all know that whether it’s 3 or 33 percent of British GDP it will never be of sufficient “moment” to satisfy the whiners.
Wow, as high as that? Did you know it costs over 60 million a years to ‘defend ‘ the Falkland Islands, which works out at £20,000 per inhabitant really that much ffs give it back to the argies who gives a fuck about a piece of rock thousands of miles away
Exactly, a total waste of money, You wouldnt say that if you considered yourself British like the falkland islanders do and was just left by your country to become homeless.
Are they very patriotic over there?seems so
"Do you wish the Falkland Islands to retain their current political status as an Overseas Territory of the United Kingdom?" A referendum on political status was held in the Falkland Islands on 10–11 March 2013. ... On a turnout of 92%, 99.8% voted to remain a British territory, with only three votes against.
Irrelevant, the cost of ‘defending’ less than 3000 people is too much and not necessary.
You misunderstand the costs involved. That is a base level of military funding that treats the Falklands, much like Belize or in the old days Northern Ireland, as an ideal training ground for our troops, re convoys, landings, close air support etc.
It is not an additional cost, training has to take place somewhere. 60 million is peanuts.
Why do they have to travel 3,000 miles for training? As Foxi has stated, they could do all that in Scotland and why is £60 million pea nuts?
Do you want to volunteer to ask the Scots what they think about that? Can you film Nicola’s reaction, could do with a laugh?
Do you have any concept of how much military equipment costs? One sidewinder missile retails at about 0.5 million quid.
And? Ok, do it somewhere in England, do you realise the cost of transporting troops and military equipment over 3,000 miles for training
? Your argument is non sensical
Fire sidewinders over Milton Keynes? Are you insane?
Is Milton Keynes the only option ?
It’s not a bad option TBF now I think about it.
There are over 136 uninhabited islands that are part of the British Isles
How many of those are not protected by the RSPB, EH, NT, etc etc ?
I don’t know, why don’t you find out? Let me know when you do "Yep, I’ve checked, they’re all protected by people on badger patrol. We don’t really have a history of blowing up our own land, have a look at what we did to Heligoland at the end of war | |||
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"Nobody knows the answer to the OPs question until there’s a vote, or two. I can say that I really don’t care if countries can’t see the benefits of being in the British Empire and want to leave. Fine, go. We are now free to forge new alliances more in line with our national interests. Who are the members of the ‘British Empire ‘ ?
Anguilla
Bermuda
British Antarctic Territory
British Indian Ocean Territory
British Virgin Islands
Cayman Islands
Falkland Islands
Gibraltar
Montserrat
Pitcairn Islands
Saint Helena, Ascension and Tristan da Cunha
Saint Helena
Ascension Island
Tristan da Cunha
South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands
Sovereign Base Areas of Akrotiri and Dhekelia
Turks and Caicos Islands
South Sandwich Islands,
It’s not the Jewell in the Empire, no, no one lives there
It isn’t much of an Empire, just out of interest how much moment do these places contribute to the British economy?
Actually there’s a vast number of British and foreign Finance businesses registered in at least seven of those. We all know that whether it’s 3 or 33 percent of British GDP it will never be of sufficient “moment” to satisfy the whiners.
Wow, as high as that? Did you know it costs over 60 million a years to ‘defend ‘ the Falkland Islands, which works out at £20,000 per inhabitant really that much ffs give it back to the argies who gives a fuck about a piece of rock thousands of miles away
Exactly, a total waste of money, You wouldnt say that if you considered yourself British like the falkland islanders do and was just left by your country to become homeless.
Are they very patriotic over there?seems so
"Do you wish the Falkland Islands to retain their current political status as an Overseas Territory of the United Kingdom?" A referendum on political status was held in the Falkland Islands on 10–11 March 2013. ... On a turnout of 92%, 99.8% voted to remain a British territory, with only three votes against.
Irrelevant, the cost of ‘defending’ less than 3000 people is too much and not necessary.
You misunderstand the costs involved. That is a base level of military funding that treats the Falklands, much like Belize or in the old days Northern Ireland, as an ideal training ground for our troops, re convoys, landings, close air support etc.
It is not an additional cost, training has to take place somewhere. 60 million is peanuts.
Why do they have to travel 3,000 miles for training? As Foxi has stated, they could do all that in Scotland and why is £60 million pea nuts?
Do you want to volunteer to ask the Scots what they think about that? Can you film Nicola’s reaction, could do with a laugh?
Do you have any concept of how much military equipment costs? One sidewinder missile retails at about 0.5 million quid.
And? Ok, do it somewhere in England, do you realise the cost of transporting troops and military equipment over 3,000 miles for training
? Your argument is non sensical
Fire sidewinders over Milton Keynes? Are you insane?
Is Milton Keynes the only option ?
It’s not a bad option TBF now I think about it.
There are over 136 uninhabited islands that are part of the British Isles
How many of those are not protected by the RSPB, EH, NT, etc etc ?
I don’t know, why don’t you find out? Let me know when you do
Yep, I’ve checked, they’re all protected by people on badger patrol.
We don’t really have a history of blowing up our own land, have a look at what we did to Heligoland at the end of war "No there not. Btw, I thought the Falklands are part of our ‘own land’ ?? | |||
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"Nobody knows the answer to the OPs question until there’s a vote, or two. I can say that I really don’t care if countries can’t see the benefits of being in the British Empire and want to leave. Fine, go. We are now free to forge new alliances more in line with our national interests. Who are the members of the ‘British Empire ‘ ?
Anguilla
Bermuda
British Antarctic Territory
British Indian Ocean Territory
British Virgin Islands
Cayman Islands
Falkland Islands
Gibraltar
Montserrat
Pitcairn Islands
Saint Helena, Ascension and Tristan da Cunha
Saint Helena
Ascension Island
Tristan da Cunha
South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands
Sovereign Base Areas of Akrotiri and Dhekelia
Turks and Caicos Islands
South Sandwich Islands,
It’s not the Jewell in the Empire, no, no one lives there
It isn’t much of an Empire, just out of interest how much moment do these places contribute to the British economy?
Actually there’s a vast number of British and foreign Finance businesses registered in at least seven of those. We all know that whether it’s 3 or 33 percent of British GDP it will never be of sufficient “moment” to satisfy the whiners.
Wow, as high as that? Did you know it costs over 60 million a years to ‘defend ‘ the Falkland Islands, which works out at £20,000 per inhabitant really that much ffs give it back to the argies who gives a fuck about a piece of rock thousands of miles away
Exactly, a total waste of money, You wouldnt say that if you considered yourself British like the falkland islanders do and was just left by your country to become homeless.
Are they very patriotic over there?seems so
"Do you wish the Falkland Islands to retain their current political status as an Overseas Territory of the United Kingdom?" A referendum on political status was held in the Falkland Islands on 10–11 March 2013. ... On a turnout of 92%, 99.8% voted to remain a British territory, with only three votes against.
Irrelevant, the cost of ‘defending’ less than 3000 people is too much and not necessary.
You misunderstand the costs involved. That is a base level of military funding that treats the Falklands, much like Belize or in the old days Northern Ireland, as an ideal training ground for our troops, re convoys, landings, close air support etc.
It is not an additional cost, training has to take place somewhere. 60 million is peanuts.
Why do they have to travel 3,000 miles for training? As Foxi has stated, they could do all that in Scotland and why is £60 million pea nuts?
Do you want to volunteer to ask the Scots what they think about that? Can you film Nicola’s reaction, could do with a laugh?
Do you have any concept of how much military equipment costs? One sidewinder missile retails at about 0.5 million quid.
And? Ok, do it somewhere in England, do you realise the cost of transporting troops and military equipment over 3,000 miles for training
? Your argument is non sensical
Fire sidewinders over Milton Keynes? Are you insane?
Is Milton Keynes the only option ?
It’s not a bad option TBF now I think about it.
There are over 136 uninhabited islands that are part of the British Isles
How many of those are not protected by the RSPB, EH, NT, etc etc ?
I don’t know, why don’t you find out? Let me know when you do
Yep, I’ve checked, they’re all protected by people on badger patrol.
We don’t really have a history of blowing up our own land, have a look at what we did to Heligoland at the end of war
No there not. Btw, I thought the Falklands are part of our ‘own land’ ?? "You specifically asked about the British Isles, hence I answered about the British Isles. I agree, particularly post oil, that the Falklands is not particularly useful or productive, but I could say that about a lot of places. We still need it and we a duty to it. | |||
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"If you want to have a discussion about British Overseas Territories and the costs of military equipment and troop movements do in a separate thread. This is about ... How stable the you think the union is given the rise in call for independence from the uk regions and the Unions future. " | |||
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"Nobody knows the answer to the OPs question until there’s a vote, or two. I can say that I really don’t care if countries can’t see the benefits of being in the British Empire and want to leave. Fine, go. We are now free to forge new alliances more in line with our national interests. Who are the members of the ‘British Empire ‘ ?
Anguilla
Bermuda
British Antarctic Territory
British Indian Ocean Territory
British Virgin Islands
Cayman Islands
Falkland Islands
Gibraltar
Montserrat
Pitcairn Islands
Saint Helena, Ascension and Tristan da Cunha
Saint Helena
Ascension Island
Tristan da Cunha
South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands
Sovereign Base Areas of Akrotiri and Dhekelia
Turks and Caicos Islands
South Sandwich Islands,
It’s not the Jewell in the Empire, no, no one lives there
It isn’t much of an Empire, just out of interest how much moment do these places contribute to the British economy?
Actually there’s a vast number of British and foreign Finance businesses registered in at least seven of those. We all know that whether it’s 3 or 33 percent of British GDP it will never be of sufficient “moment” to satisfy the whiners.
Wow, as high as that? Did you know it costs over 60 million a years to ‘defend ‘ the Falkland Islands, which works out at £20,000 per inhabitant really that much ffs give it back to the argies who gives a fuck about a piece of rock thousands of miles away
Exactly, a total waste of money, You wouldnt say that if you considered yourself British like the falkland islanders do and was just left by your country to become homeless.
Are they very patriotic over there?seems so
"Do you wish the Falkland Islands to retain their current political status as an Overseas Territory of the United Kingdom?" A referendum on political status was held in the Falkland Islands on 10–11 March 2013. ... On a turnout of 92%, 99.8% voted to remain a British territory, with only three votes against.
Irrelevant, the cost of ‘defending’ less than 3000 people is too much and not necessary.
You misunderstand the costs involved. That is a base level of military funding that treats the Falklands, much like Belize or in the old days Northern Ireland, as an ideal training ground for our troops, re convoys, landings, close air support etc.
It is not an additional cost, training has to take place somewhere. 60 million is peanuts.
Why do they have to travel 3,000 miles for training? As Foxi has stated, they could do all that in Scotland and why is £60 million pea nuts?
Do you want to volunteer to ask the Scots what they think about that? Can you film Nicola’s reaction, could do with a laugh?
Do you have any concept of how much military equipment costs? One sidewinder missile retails at about 0.5 million quid.
And? Ok, do it somewhere in England, do you realise the cost of transporting troops and military equipment over 3,000 miles for training
? Your argument is non sensical
Fire sidewinders over Milton Keynes? Are you insane?
Is Milton Keynes the only option ?
It’s not a bad option TBF now I think about it.
There are over 136 uninhabited islands that are part of the British Isles
How many of those are not protected by the RSPB, EH, NT, etc etc ?
I don’t know, why don’t you find out? Let me know when you do
Yep, I’ve checked, they’re all protected by people on badger patrol.
We don’t really have a history of blowing up our own land, have a look at what we did to Heligoland at the end of war
No there not. Btw, I thought the Falklands are part of our ‘own land’ ??
You specifically asked about the British Isles, hence I answered about the British Isles.
I agree, particularly post oil, that the Falklands is not particularly useful or productive, but I could say that about a lot of places. We still need it and we a duty to it."£60 million a year, over £20,000 per inhabitant to defend? A waste of time and money. | |||
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"Nobody knows the answer to the OPs question until there’s a vote, or two. I can say that I really don’t care if countries can’t see the benefits of being in the British Empire and want to leave. Fine, go. We are now free to forge new alliances more in line with our national interests. Who are the members of the ‘British Empire ‘ ?
Anguilla
Bermuda
British Antarctic Territory
British Indian Ocean Territory
British Virgin Islands
Cayman Islands
Falkland Islands
Gibraltar
Montserrat
Pitcairn Islands
Saint Helena, Ascension and Tristan da Cunha
Saint Helena
Ascension Island
Tristan da Cunha
South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands
Sovereign Base Areas of Akrotiri and Dhekelia
Turks and Caicos Islands
South Sandwich Islands,
It’s not the Jewell in the Empire, no, no one lives there
It isn’t much of an Empire, just out of interest how much moment do these places contribute to the British economy?
Actually there’s a vast number of British and foreign Finance businesses registered in at least seven of those. We all know that whether it’s 3 or 33 percent of British GDP it will never be of sufficient “moment” to satisfy the whiners.
Wow, as high as that? Did you know it costs over 60 million a years to ‘defend ‘ the Falkland Islands, which works out at £20,000 per inhabitant really that much ffs give it back to the argies who gives a fuck about a piece of rock thousands of miles away
Exactly, a total waste of money, You wouldnt say that if you considered yourself British like the falkland islanders do and was just left by your country to become homeless.
Are they very patriotic over there?seems so
"Do you wish the Falkland Islands to retain their current political status as an Overseas Territory of the United Kingdom?" A referendum on political status was held in the Falkland Islands on 10–11 March 2013. ... On a turnout of 92%, 99.8% voted to remain a British territory, with only three votes against.
Irrelevant, the cost of ‘defending’ less than 3000 people is too much and not necessary.
You misunderstand the costs involved. That is a base level of military funding that treats the Falklands, much like Belize or in the old days Northern Ireland, as an ideal training ground for our troops, re convoys, landings, close air support etc.
It is not an additional cost, training has to take place somewhere. 60 million is peanuts.
Why do they have to travel 3,000 miles for training? As Foxi has stated, they could do all that in Scotland and why is £60 million pea nuts?
Do you want to volunteer to ask the Scots what they think about that? Can you film Nicola’s reaction, could do with a laugh?
Do you have any concept of how much military equipment costs? One sidewinder missile retails at about 0.5 million quid.
And? Ok, do it somewhere in England, do you realise the cost of transporting troops and military equipment over 3,000 miles for training
? Your argument is non sensical
Fire sidewinders over Milton Keynes? Are you insane?
Is Milton Keynes the only option ?
It’s not a bad option TBF now I think about it.
There are over 136 uninhabited islands that are part of the British Isles
How many of those are not protected by the RSPB, EH, NT, etc etc ?
I don’t know, why don’t you find out? Let me know when you do
Yep, I’ve checked, they’re all protected by people on badger patrol.
We don’t really have a history of blowing up our own land, have a look at what we did to Heligoland at the end of war
No there not. Btw, I thought the Falklands are part of our ‘own land’ ??
You specifically asked about the British Isles, hence I answered about the British Isles.
I agree, particularly post oil, that the Falklands is not particularly useful or productive, but I could say that about a lot of places. We still need it and we a duty to it.
£60 million a year, over £20,000 per inhabitant to defend? A waste of time and money. "I’ve explained that it’s not a cost to defend the Falklands, it’s a training and readiness cost. | |||
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"Nobody knows the answer to the OPs question until there’s a vote, or two. I can say that I really don’t care if countries can’t see the benefits of being in the British Empire and want to leave. Fine, go. We are now free to forge new alliances more in line with our national interests. Who are the members of the ‘British Empire ‘ ?
Anguilla
Bermuda
British Antarctic Territory
British Indian Ocean Territory
British Virgin Islands
Cayman Islands
Falkland Islands
Gibraltar
Montserrat
Pitcairn Islands
Saint Helena, Ascension and Tristan da Cunha
Saint Helena
Ascension Island
Tristan da Cunha
South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands
Sovereign Base Areas of Akrotiri and Dhekelia
Turks and Caicos Islands
South Sandwich Islands,
It’s not the Jewell in the Empire, no, no one lives there
It isn’t much of an Empire, just out of interest how much moment do these places contribute to the British economy?
Actually there’s a vast number of British and foreign Finance businesses registered in at least seven of those. We all know that whether it’s 3 or 33 percent of British GDP it will never be of sufficient “moment” to satisfy the whiners.
Wow, as high as that? Did you know it costs over 60 million a years to ‘defend ‘ the Falkland Islands, which works out at £20,000 per inhabitant really that much ffs give it back to the argies who gives a fuck about a piece of rock thousands of miles away
Exactly, a total waste of money, You wouldnt say that if you considered yourself British like the falkland islanders do and was just left by your country to become homeless.
Are they very patriotic over there?seems so
"Do you wish the Falkland Islands to retain their current political status as an Overseas Territory of the United Kingdom?" A referendum on political status was held in the Falkland Islands on 10–11 March 2013. ... On a turnout of 92%, 99.8% voted to remain a British territory, with only three votes against.
Irrelevant, the cost of ‘defending’ less than 3000 people is too much and not necessary.
You misunderstand the costs involved. That is a base level of military funding that treats the Falklands, much like Belize or in the old days Northern Ireland, as an ideal training ground for our troops, re convoys, landings, close air support etc.
It is not an additional cost, training has to take place somewhere. 60 million is peanuts.
Why do they have to travel 3,000 miles for training? As Foxi has stated, they could do all that in Scotland and why is £60 million pea nuts?
Do you want to volunteer to ask the Scots what they think about that? Can you film Nicola’s reaction, could do with a laugh?
Do you have any concept of how much military equipment costs? One sidewinder missile retails at about 0.5 million quid.
And? Ok, do it somewhere in England, do you realise the cost of transporting troops and military equipment over 3,000 miles for training
? Your argument is non sensical
Fire sidewinders over Milton Keynes? Are you insane?
Is Milton Keynes the only option ?
It’s not a bad option TBF now I think about it.
There are over 136 uninhabited islands that are part of the British Isles
How many of those are not protected by the RSPB, EH, NT, etc etc ?
I don’t know, why don’t you find out? Let me know when you do
Yep, I’ve checked, they’re all protected by people on badger patrol.
We don’t really have a history of blowing up our own land, have a look at what we did to Heligoland at the end of war
No there not. Btw, I thought the Falklands are part of our ‘own land’ ??
You specifically asked about the British Isles, hence I answered about the British Isles.
I agree, particularly post oil, that the Falklands is not particularly useful or productive, but I could say that about a lot of places. We still need it and we a duty to it.
£60 million a year, over £20,000 per inhabitant to defend? A waste of time and money.
I’ve explained that it’s not a cost to defend the Falklands, it’s a training and readiness cost. "And I have explained that isn’t true and not necessary. | |||
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"Personally i think Scotland have a chance of independence, Wales know they cant make it on their own without England and NI will stay in the union as it would have to be a very large majority in a referendum to leave. I cant see it just being a majority vote again like it was for brexit it would be a recipe for a return to violence if it was not an overwhelming majority. " GFA says simple majority, a super majority would breach the agreement. | |||
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"Nobody knows the answer to the OPs question until there’s a vote, or two. I can say that I really don’t care if countries can’t see the benefits of being in the British Empire and want to leave. Fine, go. We are now free to forge new alliances more in line with our national interests. Who are the members of the ‘British Empire ‘ ?
Anguilla
Bermuda
British Antarctic Territory
British Indian Ocean Territory
British Virgin Islands
Cayman Islands
Falkland Islands
Gibraltar
Montserrat
Pitcairn Islands
Saint Helena, Ascension and Tristan da Cunha
Saint Helena
Ascension Island
Tristan da Cunha
South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands
Sovereign Base Areas of Akrotiri and Dhekelia
Turks and Caicos Islands
South Sandwich Islands,
It’s not the Jewell in the Empire, no, no one lives there
It isn’t much of an Empire, just out of interest how much moment do these places contribute to the British economy?
Actually there’s a vast number of British and foreign Finance businesses registered in at least seven of those. We all know that whether it’s 3 or 33 percent of British GDP it will never be of sufficient “moment” to satisfy the whiners.
Wow, as high as that? Did you know it costs over 60 million a years to ‘defend ‘ the Falkland Islands, which works out at £20,000 per inhabitant really that much ffs give it back to the argies who gives a fuck about a piece of rock thousands of miles away
Exactly, a total waste of money, You wouldnt say that if you considered yourself British like the falkland islanders do and was just left by your country to become homeless.
Are they very patriotic over there?seems so
"Do you wish the Falkland Islands to retain their current political status as an Overseas Territory of the United Kingdom?" A referendum on political status was held in the Falkland Islands on 10–11 March 2013. ... On a turnout of 92%, 99.8% voted to remain a British territory, with only three votes against.
Irrelevant, the cost of ‘defending’ less than 3000 people is too much and not necessary.
You misunderstand the costs involved. That is a base level of military funding that treats the Falklands, much like Belize or in the old days Northern Ireland, as an ideal training ground for our troops, re convoys, landings, close air support etc.
It is not an additional cost, training has to take place somewhere. 60 million is peanuts.
Why do they have to travel 3,000 miles for training? As Foxi has stated, they could do all that in Scotland and why is £60 million pea nuts?
Do you want to volunteer to ask the Scots what they think about that? Can you film Nicola’s reaction, could do with a laugh?
Do you have any concept of how much military equipment costs? One sidewinder missile retails at about 0.5 million quid.
And? Ok, do it somewhere in England, do you realise the cost of transporting troops and military equipment over 3,000 miles for training
? Your argument is non sensical
Fire sidewinders over Milton Keynes? Are you insane?
Is Milton Keynes the only option ?
It’s not a bad option TBF now I think about it.
There are over 136 uninhabited islands that are part of the British Isles
How many of those are not protected by the RSPB, EH, NT, etc etc ?
I don’t know, why don’t you find out? Let me know when you do
Yep, I’ve checked, they’re all protected by people on badger patrol.
We don’t really have a history of blowing up our own land, have a look at what we did to Heligoland at the end of war
No there not. Btw, I thought the Falklands are part of our ‘own land’ ??
You specifically asked about the British Isles, hence I answered about the British Isles.
I agree, particularly post oil, that the Falklands is not particularly useful or productive, but I could say that about a lot of places. We still need it and we a duty to it.
£60 million a year, over £20,000 per inhabitant to defend? A waste of time and money.
I’ve explained that it’s not a cost to defend the Falklands, it’s a training and readiness cost.
And I have explained that isn’t true and not necessary. "It is absolute peanuts | |||
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"The UK is as good as dead. The Celtic Nations have had enough of little Angerland. It is time for four normal nation/states to emerge. Scotland is halfway out already. We all win. England gets to do whatever they want and the rest of us can work together as equals. " well have the vote amd make sure you leave this time then | |||
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"The UK is as good as dead. The Celtic Nations have had enough of little Angerland. It is time for four normal nation/states to emerge. Scotland is halfway out already. We all win. England gets to do whatever they want and the rest of us can work together as equals. " I wish you luck We have boris leading us into our glorious future . | |||
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"The UK is as good as dead. The Celtic Nations have had enough of little Angerland. It is time for four normal nation/states to emerge. Scotland is halfway out already. We all win. England gets to do whatever they want and the rest of us can work together as equals. I wish you luck We have boris leading us into our glorious future ." You can keep your glorious Boris to yourself, we don't want him | |||
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"The UK is as good as dead. The Celtic Nations have had enough of little Angerland. It is time for four normal nation/states to emerge. Scotland is halfway out already. We all win. England gets to do whatever they want and the rest of us can work together as equals. I wish you luck We have boris leading us into our glorious future . You can keep your glorious Boris to yourself, we don't want him" Why..surely he is the best man for the job? | |||
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"The UK is as good as dead. The Celtic Nations have had enough of little Angerland. It is time for four normal nation/states to emerge. Scotland is halfway out already. We all win. England gets to do whatever they want and the rest of us can work together as equals. I wish you luck We have boris leading us into our glorious future . You can keep your glorious Boris to yourself, we don't want him Why..surely he is the best man for the job?" You can have him for your blow jobs, the rest of the country know he's an incompetent baffoon. | |||
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"Of course he is any leader would struggle at the moment he is without the best person that we could have in the seat " Course he is..what are his best skills do you think? | |||
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"Of course he is any leader would struggle at the moment he is without the best person that we could have in the seat Course he is..what are his best skills do you think?" Respecting the wishes of Labour voters and getting them to vote Tory | |||
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"Of course he is any leader would struggle at the moment he is without the best person that we could have in the seat Course he is..what are his best skills do you think? Respecting the wishes of Labour voters and getting them to vote Tory " So lying. Yes we know all about that. Any others? | |||
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"Of course he is any leader would struggle at the moment he is without the best person that we could have in the seat Course he is..what are his best skills do you think? Respecting the wishes of Labour voters and getting them to vote Tory So lying. Yes we know all about that. Any others?" That's funny, I could have sworn we'd left the EU  | |||
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"He's a leader weather you agree or not he's led us out of the EU weather you agree or not were on course to vaccinate what he said would be done by when weather you agree or not he's given many many thousands of people a chance to exist with furlough schemes during this pandemic weather you agree or not what restrictions he's put in place is to protect our population weather you agree or not our children our workers our elderly so please until you've walked a mile in his shoes you have no God given right to slag him off I'm not a political person and don't really care who's in charge but I do believe we'd be in a lot worse position without him " , | |||
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"He's a leader weather you agree or not he's led us out of the EU weather you agree or not were on course to vaccinate what he said would be done by when weather you agree or not he's given many many thousands of people a chance to exist with furlough schemes during this pandemic weather you agree or not what restrictions he's put in place is to protect our population weather you agree or not our children our workers our elderly so please until you've walked a mile in his shoes you have no God given right to slag him off I'm not a political person and don't really care who's in charge but I do believe we'd be in a lot worse position without him " What skills of his do you admire the most? | |||
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"Of course he is any leader would struggle at the moment he is without the best person that we could have in the seat Course he is..what are his best skills do you think? Respecting the wishes of Labour voters and getting them to vote Tory So lying. Yes we know all about that. Any others? That's funny, I could have sworn we'd left the EU "What are his 5 best strengths as a pm? | |||
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"He's a leader weather you agree or not he's led us out of the EU weather you agree or not were on course to vaccinate what he said would be done by when weather you agree or not he's given many many thousands of people a chance to exist with furlough schemes during this pandemic weather you agree or not what restrictions he's put in place is to protect our population weather you agree or not our children our workers our elderly so please until you've walked a mile in his shoes you have no God given right to slag him off I'm not a political person and don't really care who's in charge but I do believe we'd be in a lot worse position without him What skills of his do you admire the most?" My most admired skill of his is being able to turn Labour voters into Tories. I think that's probably his most valuable skill
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"He's a leader weather you agree or not he's led us out of the EU weather you agree or not were on course to vaccinate what he said would be done by when weather you agree or not he's given many many thousands of people a chance to exist with furlough schemes during this pandemic weather you agree or not what restrictions he's put in place is to protect our population weather you agree or not our children our workers our elderly so please until you've walked a mile in his shoes you have no God given right to slag him off I'm not a political person and don't really care who's in charge but I do believe we'd be in a lot worse position without him " Firstly, god is a fictional character. Secondly Boris's response to the pandemic has been woeful, by any measure. Our death rate is ridiculous. Thirdly, under his reign the Tories have handed over £20 billion to their pals and neighbors for PPE, much of which was unusable. Fourthly, as soon as we put our leaders beyond critisim, and don't allow them to be held accountable for their actions, we're left in a dictatorship. Fithly, his government had to be shamed into feeding starving children by UNICEF and a footballer. Hardly something Boris should be commended for. So while you may not wish to question any of this. The rest of us absolutely need to retain the right to express dissent. | |||
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"Of course he is any leader would struggle at the moment he is without the best person that we could have in the seat Course he is..what are his best skills do you think? Respecting the wishes of Labour voters and getting them to vote Tory So lying. Yes we know all about that. Any others? That's funny, I could have sworn we'd left the EU
What are his 5 best strengths as a pm?"What does that even mean? | |||
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"Like I said weather you agree or not choice is yours I personally don't give to shits weather you do or don't " You specifically said "you have no god given right to slag him off". This is the point where I disagree. | |||
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"Of course he is any leader would struggle at the moment he is without the best person that we could have in the seat Course he is..what are his best skills do you think? Respecting the wishes of Labour voters and getting them to vote Tory So lying. Yes we know all about that. Any others? That's funny, I could have sworn we'd left the EU
What are his 5 best strengths as a pm?
What does that even mean? "What are his 5 best attributes as a pm? I'm sorry if it's too confusing | |||
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"Like I said weather you agree or not choice is yours I personally don't give to shits weather you do or don't " Simply asking what do you most admire? | |||
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"Clearly 5 was asking too much" 1. He was sometimes funny on HIGNFY 2. He made the most of his extremely privileged position in society that he was born into. 3. He's excellent at avoiding scrutiny. (Eg the time reporters were outside his house to ask him about the racist remarks about women in burkas, and he made them tea, and they didn't bother questioning him). 4. He's a good liar, he's so brazen about it that people seem to believe him. Has no sense of shame. 5. He will make the next PM look good by simply not being him. In the same way Biden is winning purely because he's not Trump. How's that? | |||
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"Clearly 5 was asking too much 1. He was sometimes funny on HIGNFY 2. He made the most of his extremely privileged position in society that he was born into. 3. He's excellent at avoiding scrutiny. (Eg the time reporters were outside his house to ask him about the racist remarks about women in burkas, and he made them tea, and they didn't bother questioning him). 4. He's a good liar, he's so brazen about it that people seem to believe him. Has no sense of shame. 5. He will make the next PM look good by simply not being him. In the same way Biden is winning purely because he's not Trump. How's that? " Come now be serous. They wax lyrical about him daily..I'm sure they are just deciding which of the many he has got,to go in the top 5. Any time now. | |||
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"Clearly 5 was asking too much 1. He was sometimes funny on HIGNFY 2. He made the most of his extremely privileged position in society that he was born into. 3. He's excellent at avoiding scrutiny. (Eg the time reporters were outside his house to ask him about the racist remarks about women in burkas, and he made them tea, and they didn't bother questioning him). 4. He's a good liar, he's so brazen about it that people seem to believe him. Has no sense of shame. 5. He will make the next PM look good by simply not being him. In the same way Biden is winning purely because he's not Trump. How's that? " fucking hell lionel should of tried the tea trick then he missed a trick there pmsl | |||
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"With the SNP looking to take an overwhelming majority in th Scottish parliament. A recent poll in N.I. favouring a border referendum. Yes Cymru have seen it ranks swell from 2000 at the beginning of 2020 to now over 17000 with Plaid Cymru promising a independence referendum if they win the next Senedd election. Have years of mismanagement of the regions by successive governments caused this rise or has Brexit sharpened these fault lines. How stable is the future of the Union? Not a blame game just your predictions. BTW - Back in 2016 I’m on record stating that Brexit would cause a rise in regional nationalism and a greater clamour independence. " Judging by how this thread has panned out, the union is fucked! Some of the things I'm reading...  | |||
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"He's a leader weather you agree or not he's led us out of the EU weather you agree or not were on course to vaccinate what he said would be done by when weather you agree or not he's given many many thousands of people a chance to exist with furlough schemes during this pandemic weather you agree or not what restrictions he's put in place is to protect our population weather you agree or not our children our workers our elderly so please until you've walked a mile in his shoes you have no God given right to slag him off I'm not a political person and don't really care who's in charge but I do believe we'd be in a lot worse position without him " This is funny! | |||
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"The UK is as good as dead. The Celtic Nations have had enough of little Angerland. It is time for four normal nation/states to emerge. Scotland is halfway out already. We all win. England gets to do whatever they want and the rest of us can work together as equals. well have the vote amd make sure you leave this time then " If they put forward a decent economic plan then I think they will get there. Last time this was one of the main problems. | |||
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"With the SNP looking to take an overwhelming majority in th Scottish parliament. A recent poll in N.I. favouring a border referendum. Yes Cymru have seen it ranks swell from 2000 at the beginning of 2020 to now over 17000 with Plaid Cymru promising a independence referendum if they win the next Senedd election. Have years of mismanagement of the regions by successive governments caused this rise or has Brexit sharpened these fault lines. How stable is the future of the Union? Not a blame game just your predictions. BTW - Back in 2016 I’m on record stating that Brexit would cause a rise in regional nationalism and a greater clamour independence. Judging by how this thread has panned out, the union is fucked! Some of the things I'm reading... "It's not worth talking to a wall  | |||
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"I personally can't see it happening except for NI. That's been on the cards for the last 15 years. The problem there is I don't think Ireland can afford it and the North doesn't have the financial input needed to keep it afloat. 62% of the workforce are in governance, that shows it cannot sustain itself. Scotland had its chance, lost it but Sturgeon won't accept it. They don't have the oil resources they said they did in the first referendum. The oil market is slowly collapsing with climate change being addressed. Wales may vote but won't actually go again nothing to really sustain itself independently with. They each have to declare independence for two years, have their independent currency from the UK. I read Sturgeon was looking into buying into another currency but that is a massive risk as they have no control over what happens with that currency on their own economy. If that currency takes a dive then it's all hell breaks loose. Coupled with the recession that the pandemic is having the timing couldn't be worse. After the two years and only after it can they then apply to the EU as an independent state to join, and there is still no guarantee they will be admitted. Just some of my thinking on it " Well it's intelligent thinking | |||
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"I personally can't see it happening except for NI. That's been on the cards for the last 15 years. The problem there is I don't think Ireland can afford it and the North doesn't have the financial input needed to keep it afloat. 62% of the workforce are in governance, that shows it cannot sustain itself. Scotland had its chance, lost it but Sturgeon won't accept it. They don't have the oil resources they said they did in the first referendum. The oil market is slowly collapsing with climate change being addressed. Wales may vote but won't actually go again nothing to really sustain itself independently with. They each have to declare independence for two years, have their independent currency from the UK. I read Sturgeon was looking into buying into another currency but that is a massive risk as they have no control over what happens with that currency on their own economy. If that currency takes a dive then it's all hell breaks loose. Coupled with the recession that the pandemic is having the timing couldn't be worse. After the two years and only after it can they then apply to the EU as an independent state to join, and there is still no guarantee they will be admitted. Just some of my thinking on it " | |||
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"I personally can't see it happening except for NI. That's been on the cards for the last 15 years. The problem there is I don't think Ireland can afford it and the North doesn't have the financial input needed to keep it afloat. 62% of the workforce are in governance, that shows it cannot sustain itself. Scotland had its chance, lost it but Sturgeon won't accept it. They don't have the oil resources they said they did in the first referendum. The oil market is slowly collapsing with climate change being addressed. Wales may vote but won't actually go again nothing to really sustain itself independently with. They each have to declare independence for two years, have their independent currency from the UK. I read Sturgeon was looking into buying into another currency but that is a massive risk as they have no control over what happens with that currency on their own economy. If that currency takes a dive then it's all hell breaks loose. Coupled with the recession that the pandemic is having the timing couldn't be worse. After the two years and only after it can they then apply to the EU as an independent state to join, and there is still no guarantee they will be admitted. Just some of my thinking on it Well it's intelligent thinking "Oh I'm sure someone will be along shortly to pick holes in it and I'm sure there's a few holes. | |||
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"I personally can't see it happening except for NI. That's been on the cards for the last 15 years. The problem there is I don't think Ireland can afford it and the North doesn't have the financial input needed to keep it afloat. 62% of the workforce are in governance, that shows it cannot sustain itself. Scotland had its chance, lost it but Sturgeon won't accept it. They don't have the oil resources they said they did in the first referendum. The oil market is slowly collapsing with climate change being addressed. Wales may vote but won't actually go again nothing to really sustain itself independently with. They each have to declare independence for two years, have their independent currency from the UK. I read Sturgeon was looking into buying into another currency but that is a massive risk as they have no control over what happens with that currency on their own economy. If that currency takes a dive then it's all hell breaks loose. Coupled with the recession that the pandemic is having the timing couldn't be worse. After the two years and only after it can they then apply to the EU as an independent state to join, and there is still no guarantee they will be admitted. Just some of my thinking on it Well it's intelligent thinking
Oh I'm sure someone will be along shortly to pick holes in it and I'm sure there's a few holes. "It's easy to pick fault and just harangue people lol but valid points seem few and far between. I actually know people in ni and they are a pretty loyal bunch. But ballot papers aren't pubs! Lol | |||
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"I personally can't see it happening except for NI. That's been on the cards for the last 15 years. The problem there is I don't think Ireland can afford it and the North doesn't have the financial input needed to keep it afloat. 62% of the workforce are in governance, that shows it cannot sustain itself. Scotland had its chance, lost it but Sturgeon won't accept it. They don't have the oil resources they said they did in the first referendum. The oil market is slowly collapsing with climate change being addressed. Wales may vote but won't actually go again nothing to really sustain itself independently with. They each have to declare independence for two years, have their independent currency from the UK. I read Sturgeon was looking into buying into another currency but that is a massive risk as they have no control over what happens with that currency on their own economy. If that currency takes a dive then it's all hell breaks loose. Coupled with the recession that the pandemic is having the timing couldn't be worse. After the two years and only after it can they then apply to the EU as an independent state to join, and there is still no guarantee they will be admitted. Just some of my thinking on it " East Germany was also deadweight - and then Germany was re-unified. | |||
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"The United Kingdom is over. Let’s just say it the way that it is. It’s just a matter of time. The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland is the final scene of a British Empire that was forged on Exceptionalism and subjugation. Everything evolves, everything changes and the ironic “domino” claim of Brexiters is now highly likely to come to fruition in our lifetimes - just not in the way that they intended. It truly makes me sad that so many English people are still unable to see that the English exceptionalist attitude has not only lost the Empire, but will also lose the United Kingdom. " There is a certain irony to it. | |||
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"With the SNP looking to take an overwhelming majority in th Scottish parliament. A recent poll in N.I. favouring a border referendum. Yes Cymru have seen it ranks swell from 2000 at the beginning of 2020 to now over 17000 with Plaid Cymru promising a independence referendum if they win the next Senedd election. Have years of mismanagement of the regions by successive governments caused this rise or has Brexit sharpened these fault lines. How stable is the future of the Union? Not a blame game just your predictions. BTW - Back in 2016 I’m on record stating that Brexit would cause a rise in regional nationalism and a greater clamour independence. " Unless the UK abandons the FPTP system for electing the Westminster Parliament, then the Union has no future. | |||
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"The only union i could see existing in ten years time would be the United Countries of Scotland, Northern Ireland, Wales, Cornwall, Northumberland, Cumbria and Yorkshire. With a much diminished England full of bitter people mumbling "we won, get over it, stop being mean to us". Well if it's good enough for Yorkshire then Lancashire would follow too I suggest.. Englandshire, bit of a ring to it.." Lancashire very welcome to join. | |||
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"The only union i could see existing in ten years time would be the United Countries of Scotland, Northern Ireland, Wales, Cornwall, Northumberland, Cumbria and Yorkshire. With a much diminished England full of bitter people mumbling "we won, get over it, stop being mean to us". Well if it's good enough for Yorkshire then Lancashire would follow too I suggest.. Englandshire, bit of a ring to it.. Lancashire very welcome to join. " south yorkshire is all ready a republic don't drag us into your wars again | |||
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"I always find it funny when Brexiteers point out how Scotland, Wales or NI couldn’t cope without England. You just voted to leave the EU for no good reason - why can’t everybody else not have the chance of leaving you? Hypocrites "And how’s the Welsh NHS coming along? Frankly, it’s for your own good until your institutions can display some vague level of competence, | |||
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"I always find it funny when Brexiteers point out how Scotland, Wales or NI couldn’t cope without England. You just voted to leave the EU for no good reason - why can’t everybody else not have the chance of leaving you? Hypocrites
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"Narrow-minded ..... a person or persons with a limited outlook who is unwilling to consider alternative ideas, perspectives or thoughts. They are right and there's no discussion because they have no real argument." Horseshit, brexiteers were not looking outwards, they were looking inwards, terrified by lies fed by its leaders, the hordes of immigrants invading and taking jobs, the bullshit of being a new empire to rule the waves. We have become a diminished nation, not just financially, but spiritually. Our strength lays in our unity, together we do great things, our innovation our ability to create and prosper, not for individuals but for everyone. How the hell are we going to be called Great Britain without the home nations? If brexiteers are content with OK England, that is something which is frankly sickening. | |||
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"I always find it funny when Brexiteers point out how Scotland, Wales or NI couldn’t cope without England. You just voted to leave the EU for no good reason - why can’t everybody else not have the chance of leaving you? Hypocrites "Erm.... wales voted to leave too | |||
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"Narrow-minded ..... a person or persons with a limited outlook who is unwilling to consider alternative ideas, perspectives or thoughts. They are right and there's no discussion because they have no real argument. Horseshit, brexiteers were not looking outwards, they were looking inwards, terrified by lies fed by its leaders, the hordes of immigrants invading and taking jobs, the bullshit of being a new empire to rule the waves. We have become a diminished nation, not just financially, but spiritually. Our strength lays in our unity, together we do great things, our innovation our ability to create and prosper, not for individuals but for everyone. How the hell are we going to be called Great Britain without the home nations? If brexiteers are content with OK England, that is something which is frankly sickening. " why do you assume that Wales would want to break away from the UK and also Scotland.Last time Scotland voted some thought they would leave but did they no simple | |||
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"Narrow-minded ..... a person or persons with a limited outlook who is unwilling to consider alternative ideas, perspectives or thoughts. They are right and there's no discussion because they have no real argument. Horseshit, brexiteers were not looking outwards, they were looking inwards, terrified by lies fed by its leaders, the hordes of immigrants invading and taking jobs, the bullshit of being a new empire to rule the waves. We have become a diminished nation, not just financially, but spiritually. Our strength lays in our unity, together we do great things, our innovation our ability to create and prosper, not for individuals but for everyone. How the hell are we going to be called Great Britain without the home nations? If brexiteers are content with OK England, that is something which is frankly sickening. why do you assume that Wales would want to break away from the UK and also Scotland.Last time Scotland voted some thought they would leave but did they no simple" This is a presumption now, the SNP have the impetus to because brexiteers couldn’t understand the woven nature of our union and how our bonds made us invincible. Brexit caused this, and I don’t want to see our nation breakup like the balkans did in the 90’s. | |||
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"yes that is a total guess unless you can read every ones mind! "To divine the future, look to the past, and the past teaches us valuable lessons. It’s human nature to ignore the past and this their situation is totally different to the situations which have happened before. It’s especially true of brexiteers | |||
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"It’s been 5 years since the Brexit referendum. The collapse of the Union is not going to happen in a year or two. Give it another 2-3 years and people will start talking about rejoining the EU. The economic struggle, lack of any perspective, generation change etc.... UK will rejoin the EU before the Union will collapse. Just my opinion." In my opinion you are talking rubbish  In another 2-3 years we will have joined cptpp have a free trade deal with India (she is there today to get it started) and be far less dependent on the eu and their red tape. Business will always find the best and easiest way to make money something the eu will find out in the future when their sales to the uk diminish.Just my opinion. | |||
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"I always find it funny when Brexiteers point out how Scotland, Wales or NI couldn’t cope without England. You just voted to leave the EU for no good reason - why can’t everybody else not have the chance of leaving you? Hypocrites
Erm.... wales voted to leave too "We didn’t have the opportunity to vote to leave England though! If an English Party can decide to have a vote on a British issue, then the Welsh should be able to have a vote on a Welsh issue. Arguing that we are better off out of the EU just allows Wales now to argue we are better off out of the UK. It is a patent lie that we are better off out of the UK, we are just out’ish. I don’t think Wales will be better off out of the UK, but it will be ‘sovereign’ and we can have red oassports! | |||
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"I always find it funny when Brexiteers point out how Scotland, Wales or NI couldn’t cope without England. You just voted to leave the EU for no good reason - why can’t everybody else not have the chance of leaving you? Hypocrites
Erm.... wales voted to leave too
We didn’t have the opportunity to vote to leave England though! If an English Party can decide to have a vote on a British issue, then the Welsh should be able to have a vote on a Welsh issue.
Arguing that we are better off out of the EU just allows Wales now to argue we are better off out of the UK. It is a patent lie that we are better off out of the UK, we are just out’ish. I don’t think Wales will be better off out of the UK, but it will be ‘sovereign’ and we can have red oassports! "Who said the Welsh can't have a vote? You said 'you just voted to leave the EU' meaning the English voted to leave and no one else. If the devolved Welsh administration want a vote to leave the UK then it has to start there. Honestly, I'm not entirely sure what your point is. | |||
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"It’s been 5 years since the Brexit referendum. The collapse of the Union is not going to happen in a year or two. Give it another 2-3 years and people will start talking about rejoining the EU. The economic struggle, lack of any perspective, generation change etc.... UK will rejoin the EU before the Union will collapse. Just my opinion.In my opinion you are talking rubbish In another 2-3 years we will have joined cptpp have a free trade deal with India (she is there today to get it started) and be far less dependent on the eu and their red tape. Business will always find the best and easiest way to make money something the eu will find out in the future when their sales to the uk diminish.Just my opinion. "Why will it take 2-3 years to join the CPTPP, | |||
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"It’s been 5 years since the Brexit referendum. The collapse of the Union is not going to happen in a year or two. Give it another 2-3 years and people will start talking about rejoining the EU. The economic struggle, lack of any perspective, generation change etc.... UK will rejoin the EU before the Union will collapse. Just my opinion.In my opinion you are talking rubbish In another 2-3 years we will have joined cptpp have a free trade deal with India (she is there today to get it started) and be far less dependent on the eu and their red tape. Business will always find the best and easiest way to make money something the eu will find out in the future when their sales to the uk diminish.Just my opinion.
Why will it take 2-3 years to join the CPTPP, "I think it was the previous poster who mentioned 2-3 years. The average trade deal takes 1.5 years according to a quick google. | |||
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"It’s been 5 years since the Brexit referendum. The collapse of the Union is not going to happen in a year or two. Give it another 2-3 years and people will start talking about rejoining the EU. The economic struggle, lack of any perspective, generation change etc.... UK will rejoin the EU before the Union will collapse. Just my opinion.In my opinion you are talking rubbish In another 2-3 years we will have joined cptpp have a free trade deal with India (she is there today to get it started) and be far less dependent on the eu and their red tape. Business will always find the best and easiest way to make money something the eu will find out in the future when their sales to the uk diminish.Just my opinion.
Why will it take 2-3 years to join the CPTPP,
I think it was the previous poster who mentioned 2-3 years. The average trade deal takes 1.5 years according to a quick google."I see, then we will have a deal in place with CPTPP in 2 years. Why did Farage say that CPTPP was following ‘the EUs prototype for world governance ‘? And why are we joining another trade bloc when I thought we were going for ‘bespoke trade deals’ ? | |||
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"I always find it funny when Brexiteers point out how Scotland, Wales or NI couldn’t cope without England. You just voted to leave the EU for no good reason - why can’t everybody else not have the chance of leaving you? Hypocrites
Erm.... wales voted to leave too
We didn’t have the opportunity to vote to leave England though! If an English Party can decide to have a vote on a British issue, then the Welsh should be able to have a vote on a Welsh issue.
Arguing that we are better off out of the EU just allows Wales now to argue we are better off out of the UK. It is a patent lie that we are better off out of the UK, we are just out’ish. I don’t think Wales will be better off out of the UK, but it will be ‘sovereign’ and we can have red oassports!
Who said the Welsh can't have a vote?
You said 'you just voted to leave the EU' meaning the English voted to leave and no one else.
If the devolved Welsh administration want a vote to leave the UK then it has to start there.
Honestly, I'm not entirely sure what your point is."I find it strange that Brexiteers are not promoting the opportunity for each of the UK’s 4 nations to seek independence. After all, as I understand it, we should all have the choice to be sovereign and decide our own future. So whilst I will declare myself pro Europe and Pro UK, I also feel strongly that as we have “thrown of the shackles” of Europe, the same choice should be available to “throw off the shackles” of England. If you live in Cardiff, Belfast or Edinburgh then Westminster is at least as bad as Strasbourg. At least the EU used to invest in the Regions... | |||
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"I always find it funny when Brexiteers point out how Scotland, Wales or NI couldn’t cope without England. You just voted to leave the EU for no good reason - why can’t everybody else not have the chance of leaving you? Hypocrites
Erm.... wales voted to leave too
We didn’t have the opportunity to vote to leave England though! If an English Party can decide to have a vote on a British issue, then the Welsh should be able to have a vote on a Welsh issue.
Arguing that we are better off out of the EU just allows Wales now to argue we are better off out of the UK. It is a patent lie that we are better off out of the UK, we are just out’ish. I don’t think Wales will be better off out of the UK, but it will be ‘sovereign’ and we can have red oassports!
Who said the Welsh can't have a vote?
You said 'you just voted to leave the EU' meaning the English voted to leave and no one else.
If the devolved Welsh administration want a vote to leave the UK then it has to start there.
Honestly, I'm not entirely sure what your point is.
I find it strange that Brexiteers are not promoting the opportunity for each of the UK’s 4 nations to seek independence. After all, as I understand it, we should all have the choice to be sovereign and decide our own future.
So whilst I will declare myself pro Europe and Pro UK, I also feel strongly that as we have “thrown of the shackles” of Europe, the same choice should be available to “throw off the shackles” of England.
If you live in Cardiff, Belfast or Edinburgh then Westminster is at least as bad as Strasbourg. At least the EU used to invest in the Regions...
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"Narrow-minded ..... a person or persons with a limited outlook who is unwilling to consider alternative ideas, perspectives or thoughts. They are right and there's no discussion because they have no real argument. Horseshit, brexiteers were not looking outwards, they were looking inwards, terrified by lies fed by its leaders, the hordes of immigrants invading and taking jobs, the bullshit of being a new empire to rule the waves. We have become a diminished nation, not just financially, but spiritually. Our strength lays in our unity, together we do great things, our innovation our ability to create and prosper, not for individuals but for everyone. How the hell are we going to be called Great Britain without the home nations? If brexiteers are content with OK England, that is something which is frankly sickening. why do you assume that Wales would want to break away from the UK and also Scotland.Last time Scotland voted some thought they would leave but did they no simple This is a presumption now, the SNP have the impetus to because brexiteers couldn’t understand the woven nature of our union and how our bonds made us invincible. Brexit caused this, and I don’t want to see our nation breakup like the balkans did in the 90’s. " Sorry to say Brexit caused this shy on stupid. The factions were there long ago. I personally felt it was being eroded due to the EU removing identities over decades. One reason I voted Brexit was to try to give opportunity to galvanise our strength. SNP got a no vote even after reducing the voting age to 16 to try and gain the young voters and they still got a no, yet not happy they want to continue and ignore a democratic vote. Sadly they are not representing the people, but a smaller minority who voted to leave. They have lied about their value of natural resources and thankfully many have seen that, coupled with the collapse in oil as alternatives are being push it's weaken it even more. I raised this before before Christmas but they have to link their economy to another currency and there little choice but which ever one they can, they then become at the mercy of that other economy for a minimum of two years, after which they can make application to the EU. There are a lot of boxes they have to tick before consideration and there's no guarantee they will be accepted. Burn their bridges and they could be floating alone. I can't see the EU bringing any more on board unless they can get a large contributing member to join to help prop up what's been lost. There's going to be big changes ahead in the EU for it to consolidate itself. | |||
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"I always find it funny when Brexiteers point out how Scotland, Wales or NI couldn’t cope without England. You just voted to leave the EU for no good reason - why can’t everybody else not have the chance of leaving you? Hypocrites
Erm.... wales voted to leave too
We didn’t have the opportunity to vote to leave England though! If an English Party can decide to have a vote on a British issue, then the Welsh should be able to have a vote on a Welsh issue.
Arguing that we are better off out of the EU just allows Wales now to argue we are better off out of the UK. It is a patent lie that we are better off out of the UK, we are just out’ish. I don’t think Wales will be better off out of the UK, but it will be ‘sovereign’ and we can have red oassports!
Who said the Welsh can't have a vote?
You said 'you just voted to leave the EU' meaning the English voted to leave and no one else.
If the devolved Welsh administration want a vote to leave the UK then it has to start there.
Honestly, I'm not entirely sure what your point is.
I find it strange that Brexiteers are not promoting the opportunity for each of the UK’s 4 nations to seek independence. After all, as I understand it, we should all have the choice to be sovereign and decide our own future.
So whilst I will declare myself pro Europe and Pro UK, I also feel strongly that as we have “thrown of the shackles” of Europe, the same choice should be available to “throw off the shackles” of England.
If you live in Cardiff, Belfast or Edinburgh then Westminster is at least as bad as Strasbourg. At least the EU used to invest in the Regions...
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"I always find it funny when Brexiteers point out how Scotland, Wales or NI couldn’t cope without England. You just voted to leave the EU for no good reason - why can’t everybody else not have the chance of leaving you? Hypocrites
Erm.... wales voted to leave too
We didn’t have the opportunity to vote to leave England though! If an English Party can decide to have a vote on a British issue, then the Welsh should be able to have a vote on a Welsh issue.
Arguing that we are better off out of the EU just allows Wales now to argue we are better off out of the UK. It is a patent lie that we are better off out of the UK, we are just out’ish. I don’t think Wales will be better off out of the UK, but it will be ‘sovereign’ and we can have red oassports!
Who said the Welsh can't have a vote?
You said 'you just voted to leave the EU' meaning the English voted to leave and no one else.
If the devolved Welsh administration want a vote to leave the UK then it has to start there.
Honestly, I'm not entirely sure what your point is.
I find it strange that Brexiteers are not promoting the opportunity for each of the UK’s 4 nations to seek independence. After all, as I understand it, we should all have the choice to be sovereign and decide our own future.
So whilst I will declare myself pro Europe and Pro UK, I also feel strongly that as we have “thrown of the shackles” of Europe, the same choice should be available to “throw off the shackles” of England.
If you live in Cardiff, Belfast or Edinburgh then Westminster is at least as bad as Strasbourg. At least the EU used to invest in the Regions...
"I've never seen one Brexiteer on here say that Scotland shouldn't get independence if that's what the people want. Can you name one? All that Brexiteers are saying is that Sturgeon and the SNP are talking crap. As they did during the EU referendum when they pretended that they wanted to remain. EU membership means nothing to them, it's about independence and that's it. End of | |||
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"I always find it funny when Brexiteers point out how Scotland, Wales or NI couldn’t cope without England. You just voted to leave the EU for no good reason - why can’t everybody else not have the chance of leaving you? Hypocrites
Erm.... wales voted to leave too
We didn’t have the opportunity to vote to leave England though! If an English Party can decide to have a vote on a British issue, then the Welsh should be able to have a vote on a Welsh issue.
Arguing that we are better off out of the EU just allows Wales now to argue we are better off out of the UK. It is a patent lie that we are better off out of the UK, we are just out’ish. I don’t think Wales will be better off out of the UK, but it will be ‘sovereign’ and we can have red oassports!
Who said the Welsh can't have a vote?
You said 'you just voted to leave the EU' meaning the English voted to leave and no one else.
If the devolved Welsh administration want a vote to leave the UK then it has to start there.
Honestly, I'm not entirely sure what your point is.
I find it strange that Brexiteers are not promoting the opportunity for each of the UK’s 4 nations to seek independence. After all, as I understand it, we should all have the choice to be sovereign and decide our own future.
So whilst I will declare myself pro Europe and Pro UK, I also feel strongly that as we have “thrown of the shackles” of Europe, the same choice should be available to “throw off the shackles” of England.
If you live in Cardiff, Belfast or Edinburgh then Westminster is at least as bad as Strasbourg. At least the EU used to invest in the Regions...
Maybe your understanding is incorrect and assumptions are askew. I find it funny how so many remoaner tells leavers what they should think now that they lost their choice. "Maybe my understanding is incorrect. But you haven’t helped me by pointing out which bit! Westminster is effectively an English Parliament now. If England had its own devolved Govt and then a super Parliament existed that sat above all 4, looking after Foreign Policy, Defence, etc then it might make sense - but I think this isn’t what Brexiteers want... | |||
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"yes that is a total guess unless you can read every ones mind!
To divine the future, look to the past, and the past teaches us valuable lessons.
It’s human nature to ignore the past and this their situation is totally different to the situations which have happened before.
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"west minister is not an english parliament controlled by english people.... this seems to be some sort of myth on this site! What is Parliament? Parliament is there to represent our interests and make sure they are taken into account by the Government. The Government cannot make new laws or raise new taxes without Parliament's agreement. Parliament is made up of people we have elected and people who have been appointed. They sit in two separate Houses: The House of Commons, where all the people we have elected at the General Election work, as MPs, for the next five years. This includes people in other political parties, as well as those in the winning party who were not chosen to be ministers. hope that helps "Because only England doesn’t have a ‘devolved parliament’, Westminster has become the defacto English Parliament. As a consequence Government policy is dominated by England. It does not step up from England to look at what is best for Britain. In many ways this is what Brexiteers complained about the EU. I really think that Westminster should be the UK Parliament, but England needs its own devolved government. At present having Mayors with Power is not the right answer, it creates ‘robber barons’ for those that have them, but leaves those unrepresented, well unrepresented. So how about an English Parliament in England - could be anywhere, but not London or the Home Counties? Then reduce the size of both the House of Commons and Lords. Ideally bring in PR for electing MPs rather than FPtP. I mean what could go wrong? | |||
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"west minister is not an english parliament controlled by english people.... this seems to be some sort of myth on this site! What is Parliament? Parliament is there to represent our interests and make sure they are taken into account by the Government. The Government cannot make new laws or raise new taxes without Parliament's agreement. Parliament is made up of people we have elected and people who have been appointed. They sit in two separate Houses: The House of Commons, where all the people we have elected at the General Election work, as MPs, for the next five years. This includes people in other political parties, as well as those in the winning party who were not chosen to be ministers. hope that helps
Because only England doesn’t have a ‘devolved parliament’, Westminster has become the defacto English Parliament. As a consequence Government policy is dominated by England. It does not step up from England to look at what is best for Britain. In many ways this is what Brexiteers complained about the EU. I really think that Westminster should be the UK Parliament, but England needs its own devolved government. At present having Mayors with Power is not the right answer, it creates ‘robber barons’ for those that have them, but leaves those unrepresented, well unrepresented.
So how about an English Parliament in England - could be anywhere, but not London or the Home Counties? Then reduce the size of both the House of Commons and Lords. Ideally bring in PR for electing MPs rather than FPtP.
I mean what could go wrong? "So the United States of Britain? | |||
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"west minister is not an english parliament controlled by english people.... this seems to be some sort of myth on this site! What is Parliament? Parliament is there to represent our interests and make sure they are taken into account by the Government. The Government cannot make new laws or raise new taxes without Parliament's agreement. Parliament is made up of people we have elected and people who have been appointed. They sit in two separate Houses: The House of Commons, where all the people we have elected at the General Election work, as MPs, for the next five years. This includes people in other political parties, as well as those in the winning party who were not chosen to be ministers. hope that helps
Because only England doesn’t have a ‘devolved parliament’, Westminster has become the defacto English Parliament. As a consequence Government policy is dominated by England. It does not step up from England to look at what is best for Britain. In many ways this is what Brexiteers complained about the EU. I really think that Westminster should be the UK Parliament, but England needs its own devolved government. At present having Mayors with Power is not the right answer, it creates ‘robber barons’ for those that have them, but leaves those unrepresented, well unrepresented.
So how about an English Parliament in England - could be anywhere, but not London or the Home Counties? Then reduce the size of both the House of Commons and Lords. Ideally bring in PR for electing MPs rather than FPtP.
I mean what could go wrong?
So the United States of Britain?"I haven’t suggested losing the monarch, so UK can still stand. But devolution needs to apply equally to all regions. It can’t apply more or less in each one. | |||
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"west minister is not an english parliament controlled by english people.... this seems to be some sort of myth on this site! What is Parliament? Parliament is there to represent our interests and make sure they are taken into account by the Government. The Government cannot make new laws or raise new taxes without Parliament's agreement. Parliament is made up of people we have elected and people who have been appointed. They sit in two separate Houses: The House of Commons, where all the people we have elected at the General Election work, as MPs, for the next five years. This includes people in other political parties, as well as those in the winning party who were not chosen to be ministers. hope that helps
Because only England doesn’t have a ‘devolved parliament’, Westminster has become the defacto English Parliament. As a consequence Government policy is dominated by England. It does not step up from England to look at what is best for Britain. In many ways this is what Brexiteers complained about the EU. I really think that Westminster should be the UK Parliament, but England needs its own devolved government. At present having Mayors with Power is not the right answer, it creates ‘robber barons’ for those that have them, but leaves those unrepresented, well unrepresented.
So how about an English Parliament in England - could be anywhere, but not London or the Home Counties? Then reduce the size of both the House of Commons and Lords. Ideally bring in PR for electing MPs rather than FPtP.
I mean what could go wrong?
So the United States of Britain?
I haven’t suggested losing the monarch, so UK can still stand. But devolution needs to apply equally to all regions. It can’t apply more or less in each one. "It's certainly an interesting concept. How would you make up the government of the UK though? Eqchbof the 4 countries get the same amount of reps? Or do we work it out per capita? Per GDP? | |||
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"west minister is not an english parliament controlled by english people.... this seems to be some sort of myth on this site! What is Parliament? Parliament is there to represent our interests and make sure they are taken into account by the Government. The Government cannot make new laws or raise new taxes without Parliament's agreement. Parliament is made up of people we have elected and people who have been appointed. They sit in two separate Houses: The House of Commons, where all the people we have elected at the General Election work, as MPs, for the next five years. This includes people in other political parties, as well as those in the winning party who were not chosen to be ministers. hope that helps
Because only England doesn’t have a ‘devolved parliament’, Westminster has become the defacto English Parliament. As a consequence Government policy is dominated by England. It does not step up from England to look at what is best for Britain. In many ways this is what Brexiteers complained about the EU. I really think that Westminster should be the UK Parliament, but England needs its own devolved government. At present having Mayors with Power is not the right answer, it creates ‘robber barons’ for those that have them, but leaves those unrepresented, well unrepresented.
So how about an English Parliament in England - could be anywhere, but not London or the Home Counties? Then reduce the size of both the House of Commons and Lords. Ideally bring in PR for electing MPs rather than FPtP.
I mean what could go wrong?
So the United States of Britain?
I haven’t suggested losing the monarch, so UK can still stand. But devolution needs to apply equally to all regions. It can’t apply more or less in each one.
It's certainly an interesting concept.
How would you make up the government of the UK though? Eqchbof the 4 countries get the same amount of reps? Or do we work it out per capita? Per GDP?"I would probably suggest per capita as that seems more equitable. The key thing is that each region is fairly represented. I think PR is needed rather than FOtP for Westminster as only this way will the votes in each region matter equally. | |||
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"west minister is not an english parliament controlled by english people.... this seems to be some sort of myth on this site! What is Parliament? Parliament is there to represent our interests and make sure they are taken into account by the Government. The Government cannot make new laws or raise new taxes without Parliament's agreement. Parliament is made up of people we have elected and people who have been appointed. They sit in two separate Houses: The House of Commons, where all the people we have elected at the General Election work, as MPs, for the next five years. This includes people in other political parties, as well as those in the winning party who were not chosen to be ministers. hope that helps
Because only England doesn’t have a ‘devolved parliament’, Westminster has become the defacto English Parliament. As a consequence Government policy is dominated by England. It does not step up from England to look at what is best for Britain. In many ways this is what Brexiteers complained about the EU. I really think that Westminster should be the UK Parliament, but England needs its own devolved government. At present having Mayors with Power is not the right answer, it creates ‘robber barons’ for those that have them, but leaves those unrepresented, well unrepresented.
So how about an English Parliament in England - could be anywhere, but not London or the Home Counties? Then reduce the size of both the House of Commons and Lords. Ideally bring in PR for electing MPs rather than FPtP.
I mean what could go wrong?
So the United States of Britain?
I haven’t suggested losing the monarch, so UK can still stand. But devolution needs to apply equally to all regions. It can’t apply more or less in each one.
It's certainly an interesting concept.
How would you make up the government of the UK though? Eqchbof the 4 countries get the same amount of reps? Or do we work it out per capita? Per GDP?
I would probably suggest per capita as that seems more equitable. The key thing is that each region is fairly represented. I think PR is needed rather than FOtP for Westminster as only this way will the votes in each region matter equally."See, the issue with Per Capita is that it will still be in your eyes 'English' because England outlays the other 3 countries in terms of capita. | |||
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"west minister is not an english parliament controlled by english people.... this seems to be some sort of myth on this site! What is Parliament? Parliament is there to represent our interests and make sure they are taken into account by the Government. The Government cannot make new laws or raise new taxes without Parliament's agreement. Parliament is made up of people we have elected and people who have been appointed. They sit in two separate Houses: The House of Commons, where all the people we have elected at the General Election work, as MPs, for the next five years. This includes people in other political parties, as well as those in the winning party who were not chosen to be ministers. hope that helps
Because only England doesn’t have a ‘devolved parliament’, Westminster has become the defacto English Parliament. As a consequence Government policy is dominated by England. It does not step up from England to look at what is best for Britain. In many ways this is what Brexiteers complained about the EU. I really think that Westminster should be the UK Parliament, but England needs its own devolved government. At present having Mayors with Power is not the right answer, it creates ‘robber barons’ for those that have them, but leaves those unrepresented, well unrepresented.
So how about an English Parliament in England - could be anywhere, but not London or the Home Counties? Then reduce the size of both the House of Commons and Lords. Ideally bring in PR for electing MPs rather than FPtP.
I mean what could go wrong?
So the United States of Britain?
I haven’t suggested losing the monarch, so UK can still stand. But devolution needs to apply equally to all regions. It can’t apply more or less in each one.
It's certainly an interesting concept.
How would you make up the government of the UK though? Eqchbof the 4 countries get the same amount of reps? Or do we work it out per capita? Per GDP?
I would probably suggest per capita as that seems more equitable. The key thing is that each region is fairly represented. I think PR is needed rather than FOtP for Westminster as only this way will the votes in each region matter equally.
See, the issue with Per Capita is that it will still be in your eyes 'English' because England outlays the other 3 countries in terms of capita."What does ‘See’ mean? Do you think London should have more power than Cumbria? | |||
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"west minister is not an english parliament controlled by english people.... this seems to be some sort of myth on this site! What is Parliament? Parliament is there to represent our interests and make sure they are taken into account by the Government. The Government cannot make new laws or raise new taxes without Parliament's agreement. Parliament is made up of people we have elected and people who have been appointed. They sit in two separate Houses: The House of Commons, where all the people we have elected at the General Election work, as MPs, for the next five years. This includes people in other political parties, as well as those in the winning party who were not chosen to be ministers. hope that helps
Because only England doesn’t have a ‘devolved parliament’, Westminster has become the defacto English Parliament. As a consequence Government policy is dominated by England. It does not step up from England to look at what is best for Britain. In many ways this is what Brexiteers complained about the EU. I really think that Westminster should be the UK Parliament, but England needs its own devolved government. At present having Mayors with Power is not the right answer, it creates ‘robber barons’ for those that have them, but leaves those unrepresented, well unrepresented.
So how about an English Parliament in England - could be anywhere, but not London or the Home Counties? Then reduce the size of both the House of Commons and Lords. Ideally bring in PR for electing MPs rather than FPtP.
I mean what could go wrong?
So the United States of Britain?
I haven’t suggested losing the monarch, so UK can still stand. But devolution needs to apply equally to all regions. It can’t apply more or less in each one.
It's certainly an interesting concept.
How would you make up the government of the UK though? Eqchbof the 4 countries get the same amount of reps? Or do we work it out per capita? Per GDP?
I would probably suggest per capita as that seems more equitable. The key thing is that each region is fairly represented. I think PR is needed rather than FOtP for Westminster as only this way will the votes in each region matter equally.
See, the issue with Per Capita is that it will still be in your eyes 'English' because England outlays the other 3 countries in terms of capita.
What does ‘See’ mean? Do you think London should have more power than Cumbria? "No I don't. I personally don't think any region should have anymore power than others. But, how do you get around the issue of people thinking a central government will be skewed one way or the other? As I said, I think it's an interesting concept but I don't feel it's as simple as you may believe | |||
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"Labour are pushing for increased devolution and certain cities in the north are done with being shafted by Westminster. Scotland will at some point go there own way and and a united ireland isnt beyond the realms of possibility. Far from unifying the country Brexit could very well splinter it permanently. "so this would never of happened without Brexit really Lionel lol | |||
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"Labour are pushing for increased devolution and certain cities in the north are done with being shafted by Westminster. Scotland will at some point go there own way and and a united ireland isnt beyond the realms of possibility. Far from unifying the country Brexit could very well splinter it permanently. so this would never of happened without Brexit really Lionel lol"Scotland..we dont know.. maybe..but Brexit certainly put the final nail in the coffin. I've said it before..brexit ripped open wounds that will be there for years . | |||
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"west minister is not an english parliament controlled by english people.... this seems to be some sort of myth on this site! What is Parliament? Parliament is there to represent our interests and make sure they are taken into account by the Government. The Government cannot make new laws or raise new taxes without Parliament's agreement. Parliament is made up of people we have elected and people who have been appointed. They sit in two separate Houses: The House of Commons, where all the people we have elected at the General Election work, as MPs, for the next five years. This includes people in other political parties, as well as those in the winning party who were not chosen to be ministers. hope that helps
Because only England doesn’t have a ‘devolved parliament’, Westminster has become the defacto English Parliament. As a consequence Government policy is dominated by England. It does not step up from England to look at what is best for Britain. In many ways this is what Brexiteers complained about the EU. I really think that Westminster should be the UK Parliament, but England needs its own devolved government. At present having Mayors with Power is not the right answer, it creates ‘robber barons’ for those that have them, but leaves those unrepresented, well unrepresented.
So how about an English Parliament in England - could be anywhere, but not London or the Home Counties? Then reduce the size of both the House of Commons and Lords. Ideally bring in PR for electing MPs rather than FPtP.
I mean what could go wrong?
So the United States of Britain?
I haven’t suggested losing the monarch, so UK can still stand. But devolution needs to apply equally to all regions. It can’t apply more or less in each one.
It's certainly an interesting concept.
How would you make up the government of the UK though? Eqchbof the 4 countries get the same amount of reps? Or do we work it out per capita? Per GDP?
I would probably suggest per capita as that seems more equitable. The key thing is that each region is fairly represented. I think PR is needed rather than FOtP for Westminster as only this way will the votes in each region matter equally.
See, the issue with Per Capita is that it will still be in your eyes 'English' because England outlays the other 3 countries in terms of capita.
What does ‘See’ mean? Do you think London should have more power than Cumbria?
No I don't. I personally don't think any region should have anymore power than others.
But, how do you get around the issue of people thinking a central government will be skewed one way or the other?
As I said, I think it's an interesting concept but I don't feel it's as simple as you may believe "I certainly don’t think this is simple. As Politics is ultimately about power, it means getting those in Power to vote to allow that Power to be diluted - given their lack of altruism, I wonder how that will go
I genuinely am a fan of the Union. I don’t like unbalanced devolution, it leads to real and perceived inequalities. I’d rather no devolved government as it feels worse than we used to have. But Pandora’s box is open, so I think England, Scotland, Wales and NI should have an equal local parliament in terms of what they cover and govern. | |||
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"Labour are pushing for increased devolution and certain cities in the north are done with being shafted by Westminster. Scotland will at some point go there own way and and a united ireland isnt beyond the realms of possibility. Far from unifying the country Brexit could very well splinter it permanently. so this would never of happened without Brexit really Lionel lol
Scotland..we dont know.. maybe..but Brexit certainly put the final nail in the coffin.
I've said it before..brexit ripped open wounds that will be there for years ."ripped open wounds that where already there Lionel that’s the point of countries wamt to leave that’s there choice it’s upto the people of wales NI. and Scotland or don’t you agree ? | |||
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"Labour are pushing for increased devolution and certain cities in the north are done with being shafted by Westminster. Scotland will at some point go there own way and and a united ireland isnt beyond the realms of possibility. Far from unifying the country Brexit could very well splinter it permanently. so this would never of happened without Brexit really Lionel lol
Scotland..we dont know.. maybe..but Brexit certainly put the final nail in the coffin.
I've said it before..brexit ripped open wounds that will be there for years .ripped open wounds that where already there Lionel that’s the point of countries wamt to leave that’s there choice it’s upto the people of wales NI. and Scotland or don’t you agree ?"Ireland have been arguing for years, Scotland had a referendum before Brexit and Wales voted for Brexit. So basically it's f_ck all to do with Brexit | |||
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"Labour are pushing for increased devolution and certain cities in the north are done with being shafted by Westminster. Scotland will at some point go there own way and and a united ireland isnt beyond the realms of possibility. Far from unifying the country Brexit could very well splinter it permanently. so this would never of happened without Brexit really Lionel lol
Scotland..we dont know.. maybe..but Brexit certainly put the final nail in the coffin.
I've said it before..brexit ripped open wounds that will be there for years .ripped open wounds that where already there Lionel that’s the point of countries wamt to leave that’s there choice it’s upto the people of wales NI. and Scotland or don’t you agree ?
Ireland have been arguing for years, Scotland had a referendum before Brexit and Wales voted for Brexit. So basically it's f_ck all to do with Brexit "don’t tell Lionel pmsl | |||
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"Labour are pushing for increased devolution and certain cities in the north are done with being shafted by Westminster. Scotland will at some point go there own way and and a united ireland isnt beyond the realms of possibility. Far from unifying the country Brexit could very well splinter it permanently. so this would never of happened without Brexit really Lionel lol
Scotland..we dont know.. maybe..but Brexit certainly put the final nail in the coffin.
I've said it before..brexit ripped open wounds that will be there for years .ripped open wounds that where already there Lionel that’s the point of countries wamt to leave that’s there choice it’s upto the people of wales NI. and Scotland or don’t you agree ?"Course I agree | |||
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"Labour are pushing for increased devolution and certain cities in the north are done with being shafted by Westminster. Scotland will at some point go there own way and and a united ireland isnt beyond the realms of possibility. Far from unifying the country Brexit could very well splinter it permanently. so this would never of happened without Brexit really Lionel lol
Scotland..we dont know.. maybe..but Brexit certainly put the final nail in the coffin.
I've said it before..brexit ripped open wounds that will be there for years .ripped open wounds that where already there Lionel that’s the point of countries wamt to leave that’s there choice it’s upto the people of wales NI. and Scotland or don’t you agree ?"Scotland voted to stay What would happen if they voted now? | |||
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"Labour are pushing for increased devolution and certain cities in the north are done with being shafted by Westminster. Scotland will at some point go there own way and and a united ireland isnt beyond the realms of possibility. Far from unifying the country Brexit could very well splinter it permanently. so this would never of happened without Brexit really Lionel lol
Scotland..we dont know.. maybe..but Brexit certainly put the final nail in the coffin.
I've said it before..brexit ripped open wounds that will be there for years .ripped open wounds that where already there Lionel that’s the point of countries wamt to leave that’s there choice it’s upto the people of wales NI. and Scotland or don’t you agree ?
Course I agree "eh you agree so what is your point then ? | |||
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"Labour are pushing for increased devolution and certain cities in the north are done with being shafted by Westminster. Scotland will at some point go there own way and and a united ireland isnt beyond the realms of possibility. Far from unifying the country Brexit could very well splinter it permanently. so this would never of happened without Brexit really Lionel lol
Scotland..we dont know.. maybe..but Brexit certainly put the final nail in the coffin.
I've said it before..brexit ripped open wounds that will be there for years .ripped open wounds that where already there Lionel that’s the point of countries wamt to leave that’s there choice it’s upto the people of wales NI. and Scotland or don’t you agree ?
Scotland voted to stay
What would happen if they voted now?"what ever would happen would be upto the Scots it’s there bastard country not the English | |||
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