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"Update - Nissan's chief operating officer Ashwani Gupta:
"The Brexit deal is positive for Nissan. Being the largest automaker in the UK we are taking this opportunity to redefine auto-making in the UK. It has created a competitive environment for Sunderland, not just inside the UK but outside as well.”
"We've decided to localise the manufacture of the 62KW battery in Sunderland so that all our products qualify [for tariff-free export to the EU]. We are committed to Sunderland for the long term under the business conditions that have been agreed." "
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By *atEvolutionCouple
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"Update - Nissan's chief operating officer Ashwani Gupta:
"The Brexit deal is positive for Nissan. Being the largest automaker in the UK we are taking this opportunity to redefine auto-making in the UK. It has created a competitive environment for Sunderland, not just inside the UK but outside as well.”
"We've decided to localise the manufacture of the 62KW battery in Sunderland so that all our products qualify [for tariff-free export to the EU]. We are committed to Sunderland for the long term under the business conditions that have been agreed."
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Todays News . . .
https://news.sky.com/story/nissan-boss-says-brexit-is-positive-and-claims-new-trade-deal-gives-carmaker-a-competitive-advantage-12194667
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"Update - Nissan's chief operating officer Ashwani Gupta:
"The Brexit deal is positive for Nissan. Being the largest automaker in the UK we are taking this opportunity to redefine auto-making in the UK. It has created a competitive environment for Sunderland, not just inside the UK but outside as well.”
"We've decided to localise the manufacture of the 62KW battery in Sunderland so that all our products qualify [for tariff-free export to the EU]. We are committed to Sunderland for the long term under the business conditions that have been agreed."
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Todays News . . .
https://news.sky.com/story/nissan-boss-says-brexit-is-positive-and-claims-new-trade-deal-gives-carmaker-a-competitive-advantage-12194667
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Lets hope he explains this to Honda then - Swindon workers might be a lot happier...  |
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"Update - Nissan's chief operating officer Ashwani Gupta:
"The Brexit deal is positive for Nissan. Being the largest automaker in the UK we are taking this opportunity to redefine auto-making in the UK. It has created a competitive environment for Sunderland, not just inside the UK but outside as well.”
"We've decided to localise the manufacture of the 62KW battery in Sunderland so that all our products qualify [for tariff-free export to the EU]. We are committed to Sunderland for the long term under the business conditions that have been agreed."
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Todays News . . .
https://news.sky.com/story/nissan-boss-says-brexit-is-positive-and-claims-new-trade-deal-gives-carmaker-a-competitive-advantage-12194667
Lets hope he explains this to Honda then - Swindon workers might be a lot happier... "
... published in 2020...
Honda will be closing its factory in Swindon in July next year, a date that has been "set in stone". It announced it was shutting the site with the loss of 3,500 jobs due to global changes in the car industry and the need to launch electric vehicles. ... Honda said it is "undertaking a strategic review" of the site. |
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"Update - Nissan's chief operating officer Ashwani Gupta:
"The Brexit deal is positive for Nissan. Being the largest automaker in the UK we are taking this opportunity to redefine auto-making in the UK. It has created a competitive environment for Sunderland, not just inside the UK but outside as well.”
"We've decided to localise the manufacture of the 62KW battery in Sunderland so that all our products qualify [for tariff-free export to the EU]. We are committed to Sunderland for the long term under the business conditions that have been agreed."
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Todays News . . .
https://news.sky.com/story/nissan-boss-says-brexit-is-positive-and-claims-new-trade-deal-gives-carmaker-a-competitive-advantage-12194667
Lets hope he explains this to Honda then - Swindon workers might be a lot happier...
... published in 2020...
Honda will be closing its factory in Swindon in July next year, a date that has been "set in stone". It announced it was shutting the site with the loss of 3,500 jobs due to global changes in the car industry and the need to launch electric vehicles. ... Honda said it is "undertaking a strategic review" of the site."
Honda make 1 car in Swindon and have said it is closing due to a downturn in global demand and unrelated to Brexit.
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By *ostafunMan
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"Update - Nissan's chief operating officer Ashwani Gupta:
"The Brexit deal is positive for Nissan. Being the largest automaker in the UK we are taking this opportunity to redefine auto-making in the UK. It has created a competitive environment for Sunderland, not just inside the UK but outside as well.”
"We've decided to localise the manufacture of the 62KW battery in Sunderland so that all our products qualify [for tariff-free export to the EU]. We are committed to Sunderland for the long term under the business conditions that have been agreed."
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Todays News . . .
https://news.sky.com/story/nissan-boss-says-brexit-is-positive-and-claims-new-trade-deal-gives-carmaker-a-competitive-advantage-12194667
Lets hope he explains this to Honda then - Swindon workers might be a lot happier...
... published in 2020...
Honda will be closing its factory in Swindon in July next year, a date that has been "set in stone". It announced it was shutting the site with the loss of 3,500 jobs due to global changes in the car industry and the need to launch electric vehicles. ... Honda said it is "undertaking a strategic review" of the site."
So all those remainers were wrong telling us it was due to brexit another remain lie. |
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"Update - Nissan's chief operating officer Ashwani Gupta:
"The Brexit deal is positive for Nissan. Being the largest automaker in the UK we are taking this opportunity to redefine auto-making in the UK. It has created a competitive environment for Sunderland, not just inside the UK but outside as well.”
"We've decided to localise the manufacture of the 62KW battery in Sunderland so that all our products qualify [for tariff-free export to the EU]. We are committed to Sunderland for the long term under the business conditions that have been agreed."
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Todays News . . .
https://news.sky.com/story/nissan-boss-says-brexit-is-positive-and-claims-new-trade-deal-gives-carmaker-a-competitive-advantage-12194667
Lets hope he explains this to Honda then - Swindon workers might be a lot happier...
... published in 2020...
Honda will be closing its factory in Swindon in July next year, a date that has been "set in stone". It announced it was shutting the site with the loss of 3,500 jobs due to global changes in the car industry and the need to launch electric vehicles. ... Honda said it is "undertaking a strategic review" of the site.So all those remainers were wrong telling us it was due to brexit another remain lie."
great positive news for the northeast and U.K. costa but it won’t be long before Lionel bursts this bubble can’t wait |
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"Update - Nissan's chief operating officer Ashwani Gupta:
"The Brexit deal is positive for Nissan. Being the largest automaker in the UK we are taking this opportunity to redefine auto-making in the UK. It has created a competitive environment for Sunderland, not just inside the UK but outside as well.”
"We've decided to localise the manufacture of the 62KW battery in Sunderland so that all our products qualify [for tariff-free export to the EU]. We are committed to Sunderland for the long term under the business conditions that have been agreed."
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Todays News . . .
https://news.sky.com/story/nissan-boss-says-brexit-is-positive-and-claims-new-trade-deal-gives-carmaker-a-competitive-advantage-12194667
Lets hope he explains this to Honda then - Swindon workers might be a lot happier...
... published in 2020...
Honda will be closing its factory in Swindon in July next year, a date that has been "set in stone". It announced it was shutting the site with the loss of 3,500 jobs due to global changes in the car industry and the need to launch electric vehicles. ... Honda said it is "undertaking a strategic review" of the site.So all those remainers were wrong telling us it was due to brexit another remain lie."
As Brexiteers know full well, (as well as being very adept at doing it themselves) what people say to justify doing things isn’t necessarily the truth. Honda were ‘bullied’ into disassociating the closure with Brexit. |
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"Update - Nissan's chief operating officer Ashwani Gupta:
"The Brexit deal is positive for Nissan. Being the largest automaker in the UK we are taking this opportunity to redefine auto-making in the UK. It has created a competitive environment for Sunderland, not just inside the UK but outside as well.”
"We've decided to localise the manufacture of the 62KW battery in Sunderland so that all our products qualify [for tariff-free export to the EU]. We are committed to Sunderland for the long term under the business conditions that have been agreed."
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Todays News . . .
https://news.sky.com/story/nissan-boss-says-brexit-is-positive-and-claims-new-trade-deal-gives-carmaker-a-competitive-advantage-12194667
Lets hope he explains this to Honda then - Swindon workers might be a lot happier...
... published in 2020...
Honda will be closing its factory in Swindon in July next year, a date that has been "set in stone". It announced it was shutting the site with the loss of 3,500 jobs due to global changes in the car industry and the need to launch electric vehicles. ... Honda said it is "undertaking a strategic review" of the site.So all those remainers were wrong telling us it was due to brexit another remain lie.
As Brexiteers know full well, (as well as being very adept at doing it themselves) what people say to justify doing things isn’t necessarily the truth. Honda were ‘bullied’ into disassociating the closure with Brexit. "
Nothing to do with the fact that the one model they do make there is coming to and end?? |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"Update - Nissan's chief operating officer Ashwani Gupta:
"The Brexit deal is positive for Nissan. Being the largest automaker in the UK we are taking this opportunity to redefine auto-making in the UK. It has created a competitive environment for Sunderland, not just inside the UK but outside as well.”
"We've decided to localise the manufacture of the 62KW battery in Sunderland so that all our products qualify [for tariff-free export to the EU]. We are committed to Sunderland for the long term under the business conditions that have been agreed."
...
Todays News . . .
https://news.sky.com/story/nissan-boss-says-brexit-is-positive-and-claims-new-trade-deal-gives-carmaker-a-competitive-advantage-12194667
Lets hope he explains this to Honda then - Swindon workers might be a lot happier...
... published in 2020...
Honda will be closing its factory in Swindon in July next year, a date that has been "set in stone". It announced it was shutting the site with the loss of 3,500 jobs due to global changes in the car industry and the need to launch electric vehicles. ... Honda said it is "undertaking a strategic review" of the site.So all those remainers were wrong telling us it was due to brexit another remain lie.
As Brexiteers know full well, (as well as being very adept at doing it themselves) what people say to justify doing things isn’t necessarily the truth. Honda were ‘bullied’ into disassociating the closure with Brexit. "
Bullied ? how does that work then  |
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Honda Closure - Evening Standard 19/2/19
“Business Secretary Greg Clark described the decision as “devastating” for the Wiltshire town and “deeply disappointing” given that the UK is a leader in electric vehicles which Honda stressed was the growing market.”
“However, ministers believe the closure is partly linked to Brexit, and particularly the recently signed new EU-Japan trade deal which will reduce the 10 per cent tariff on car imports into Europe to zero by 2027.”
...clearly UK Govt thought it was at least partly Brexit related... |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
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"Honda Closure - Evening Standard 19/2/19
“Business Secretary Greg Clark described the decision as “devastating” for the Wiltshire town and “deeply disappointing” given that the UK is a leader in electric vehicles which Honda stressed was the growing market.”
“However, ministers believe the closure is partly linked to Brexit, and particularly the recently signed new EU-Japan trade deal which will reduce the 10 per cent tariff on car imports into Europe to zero by 2027.”
...clearly UK Govt thought it was at least partly Brexit related... "
Ministers can believe what they like - just like you are choosing to do - But Honda said it WASN'T.
personally I'm going with what Honda said - I mean after all, it is what Honda said! |
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"Honda Closure - Evening Standard 19/2/19
“Business Secretary Greg Clark described the decision as “devastating” for the Wiltshire town and “deeply disappointing” given that the UK is a leader in electric vehicles which Honda stressed was the growing market.”
“However, ministers believe the closure is partly linked to Brexit, and particularly the recently signed new EU-Japan trade deal which will reduce the 10 per cent tariff on car imports into Europe to zero by 2027.”
...clearly UK Govt thought it was at least partly Brexit related...
Ministers can believe what they like - just like you are choosing to do - But Honda said it WASN'T.
personally I'm going with what Honda said - I mean after all, it is what Honda said!"
Yeah I'm going with the company in question.
They surely are the ones in the know  |
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It is so funny how people will deny the clarity in front of their eyes and only believe what they want to hear.
Honda have closed down partly due to Brexit, partly due to uncertainty caused by Brexit, partly caused by the EU/Japan trade deal and partly because they would have had to have invested for new models.
Being polite is Japanese, saying it isn’t due to Brexit saves face. It doesn’t mean the above facts aren’t true. So choosing to listen to a public statement, rather than open your eyes is amusing. It explains a lot. |
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"It is so funny how people will deny the clarity in front of their eyes and only believe what they want to hear.
Honda have closed down partly due to Brexit, partly due to uncertainty caused by Brexit, partly caused by the EU/Japan trade deal and partly because they would have had to have invested for new models.
Being polite is Japanese, saying it isn’t due to Brexit saves face. It doesn’t mean the above facts aren’t true. So choosing to listen to a public statement, rather than open your eyes is amusing. It explains a lot. "
'Ministers believe' is not fact |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
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"It is so funny how people will deny the clarity in front of their eyes and only believe what they want to hear.
Honda have closed down partly due to Brexit, partly due to uncertainty caused by Brexit, partly caused by the EU/Japan trade deal and partly because they would have had to have invested for new models.
Being polite is Japanese, saying it isn’t due to Brexit saves face. It doesn’t mean the above facts aren’t true. So choosing to listen to a public statement, rather than open your eyes is amusing. It explains a lot. "
Funny how people can't read
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Honda said it wasn't because of Brexit.
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"NISSAN see brexit as a positive where’s Fabio he was almost sure brexit would see Nissan close or move a lot of production overseas resulting in job loses as where a lot of remainers "
Fantastic new for Nissan abs it’s workers, I am glad they get to keep their jobs, but why are we celebrating ‘things staying the same ‘ I was always under the impression that Nissan would only leave the UK if there was a no deal |
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"NISSAN see brexit as a positive where’s Fabio he was almost sure brexit would see Nissan close or move a lot of production overseas resulting in job loses as where a lot of remainers
Fantastic new for Nissan abs it’s workers, I am glad they get to keep their jobs, but why are we celebrating ‘things staying the same ‘ I was always under the impression that Nissan would only leave the UK if there was a no deal "
they said it will create more jobs mate and there going to be useing British batteries just enjoy the good news for a change don’t do a Lionel amd end it on a sour note it’s great newsssss |
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"NISSAN see brexit as a positive where’s Fabio he was almost sure brexit would see Nissan close or move a lot of production overseas resulting in job loses as where a lot of remainers
Fantastic new for Nissan abs it’s workers, I am glad they get to keep their jobs, but why are we celebrating ‘things staying the same ‘ I was always under the impression that Nissan would only leave the UK if there was a no deal they said it will create more jobs mate and there going to be useing British batteries just enjoy the good news for a change don’t do a Lionel amd end it on a sour note it’s great newsssss"
Did you read the first part of my post? It is great news that they are keeping their jobs and Nissan have stated that it will ‘probably ‘ create new jobs, all good news and a much needed boost for the North East |
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"Update - Nissan's chief operating officer Ashwani Gupta:
"The Brexit deal is positive for Nissan. Being the largest automaker in the UK we are taking this opportunity to redefine auto-making in the UK. It has created a competitive environment for Sunderland, not just inside the UK but outside as well.”
"We've decided to localise the manufacture of the 62KW battery in Sunderland so that all our products qualify [for tariff-free export to the EU]. We are committed to Sunderland for the long term under the business conditions that have been agreed."
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Excellent news indeed. I tried to explain on the first thread how things work at Nissan but kept being told it was going to be shut even when Barcelona was shut instead. With battery production being moved from Japan to the UK its not the same as we had before. |
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"Update - Nissan's chief operating officer Ashwani Gupta:
"The Brexit deal is positive for Nissan. Being the largest automaker in the UK we are taking this opportunity to redefine auto-making in the UK. It has created a competitive environment for Sunderland, not just inside the UK but outside as well.”
"We've decided to localise the manufacture of the 62KW battery in Sunderland so that all our products qualify [for tariff-free export to the EU]. We are committed to Sunderland for the long term under the business conditions that have been agreed."
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Excellent news indeed. I tried to explain on the first thread how things work at Nissan but kept being told it was going to be shut even when Barcelona was shut instead. With battery production being moved from Japan to the UK its not the same as we had before. "
its fantastic news the opposite from what some said before |
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"The Government offered Nissan a "secret" grant of £80 Million to maintain production after Brexit. "
yeo I bet that’s a huge amount of money for Nissan no wonder they closed Barcelona plant and moving batterie from Japan to Sunderland lol |
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"The Government offered Nissan a "secret" grant of £80 Million to maintain production after Brexit. How do you know if its a "secret"? "
Because it was only known when a letter from the then-business secretary to Nissan was leaked.
Grants are normal in industry. But this particular grant was to mitigate the impacts of Brexit.
I would very much doubt Nissan would say Brexit is a success if they did not get this grant. |
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"The Government offered Nissan a "secret" grant of £80 Million to maintain production after Brexit. How do you know if its a "secret"?
Because it was only known when a letter from the then-business secretary to Nissan was leaked.
Grants are normal in industry. But this particular grant was to mitigate the impacts of Brexit.
I would very much doubt Nissan would say Brexit is a success if they did not get this grant."
They didn't get the grant though |
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"The Government offered Nissan a "secret" grant of £80 Million to maintain production after Brexit. How do you know if its a "secret"?
Because it was only known when a letter from the then-business secretary to Nissan was leaked.
Grants are normal in industry. But this particular grant was to mitigate the impacts of Brexit.
I would very much doubt Nissan would say Brexit is a success if they did not get this grant."
do you think 80 million is a lot of money to Nissan lol |
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"The Government offered Nissan a "secret" grant of £80 Million to maintain production after Brexit. How do you know if its a "secret"?
Because it was only known when a letter from the then-business secretary to Nissan was leaked.
Grants are normal in industry. But this particular grant was to mitigate the impacts of Brexit.
I would very much doubt Nissan would say Brexit is a success if they did not get this grant."
That was in 2016 and they did not get the money as it was linked to Nissan moving production of the X trail from Japan to Sunderland. |
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"Great news...
But it comes to something when a Company staying in the U.K. is seen as a success. It was the Chairman of Nissan who had made the threats to leave as I recall?"
it is a success in this climate with a pandemic and brexit don’t you think plus the extra jobs who doesn’t want that it’s a positive or am I wrong ? |
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"Great news...
But it comes to something when a Company staying in the U.K. is seen as a success. It was the Chairman of Nissan who had made the threats to leave as I recall?"
Yep before every important vote ect he said pretty much the same while pumping millions into the plant. It's a success as it was often held up as an example. In the end not only is the long term good but battery production moving from Japan to the UK. This also means the cars easily meet the country of origin rules in the EU |
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"I believe that Nissan got £2.6 million, to invest in new tooling. wow no wonder there doing so well that much eh lol"
Well, they did make loses of £6.6 billion in 2020 |
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"I believe that Nissan got £2.6 million, to invest in new tooling. wow no wonder there doing so well that much eh lol
Well, they did make loses of £6.6 billion in 2020 "
howay man sort ya self out now you any idea how ya come across last few weeks |
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"I believe that Nissan got £2.6 million, to invest in new tooling. wow no wonder there doing so well that much eh lol
Well, they did make loses of £6.6 billion in 2020 howay man sort ya self out now you any idea how ya come across last few weeks "
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"I believe that Nissan got £2.6 million, to invest in new tooling. wow no wonder there doing so well that much eh lol
Well, they did make loses of £6.6 billion in 2020 howay man sort ya self out now you any idea how ya come across last few weeks
Pardon "
just constant negativity everyday it’s got worse I since January 1st ffs Nissan is great news enjoy it there’s not much of it about at the minute |
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"I believe that Nissan got £2.6 million, to invest in new tooling. wow no wonder there doing so well that much eh lol
Well, they did make loses of £6.6 billion in 2020 howay man sort ya self out now you any idea how ya come across last few weeks
Pardon just constant negativity everyday it’s got worse I since January 1st ffs Nissan is great news enjoy it there’s not much of it about at the minute "
Why is stating facts being negative? Would you prefer people to tell lies? |
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"I believe that Nissan got £2.6 million, to invest in new tooling. wow no wonder there doing so well that much eh lol
Well, they did make loses of £6.6 billion in 2020 howay man sort ya self out now you any idea how ya come across last few weeks
Pardon just constant negativity everyday it’s got worse I since January 1st ffs Nissan is great news enjoy it there’s not much of it about at the minute
Why is stating facts being negative? Would you prefer people to tell lies? "
Renault posted 6.6 billion loss which was much expected as all auto manufacturing is suffering in the pandemic. |
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"I believe that Nissan got £2.6 million, to invest in new tooling. wow no wonder there doing so well that much eh lol
Well, they did make loses of £6.6 billion in 2020 howay man sort ya self out now you any idea how ya come across last few weeks
Pardon just constant negativity everyday it’s got worse I since January 1st ffs Nissan is great news enjoy it there’s not much of it about at the minute
Why is stating facts being negative? Would you prefer people to tell lies?
Renault posted 6.6 billion loss which was much expected as all auto manufacturing is suffering in the pandemic."
Yes, so my point is still valid , the car market is having a tough time |
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"I believe that Nissan got £2.6 million, to invest in new tooling. wow no wonder there doing so well that much eh lol
Well, they did make loses of £6.6 billion in 2020 howay man sort ya self out now you any idea how ya come across last few weeks
Pardon just constant negativity everyday it’s got worse I since January 1st ffs Nissan is great news enjoy it there’s not much of it about at the minute
Why is stating facts being negative? Would you prefer people to tell lies?
Renault posted 6.6 billion loss which was much expected as all auto manufacturing is suffering in the pandemic.
Yes, so my point is still valid , the car market is having a tough time "
yes it is so even more of a positive with the Nissan news |
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"I believe that Nissan got £2.6 million, to invest in new tooling. wow no wonder there doing so well that much eh lol
Well, they did make loses of £6.6 billion in 2020 howay man sort ya self out now you any idea how ya come across last few weeks
Pardon just constant negativity everyday it’s got worse I since January 1st ffs Nissan is great news enjoy it there’s not much of it about at the minute
Why is stating facts being negative? Would you prefer people to tell lies?
Renault posted 6.6 billion loss which was much expected as all auto manufacturing is suffering in the pandemic.
Yes, so my point is still valid , the car market is having a tough time yes it is so even more of a positive with the Nissan news "
Yes, and any money they receive from the UK
government will be more than welcome and not to be dismissed as insignificant?? |
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"I believe that Nissan got £2.6 million, to invest in new tooling. wow no wonder there doing so well that much eh lol
Well, they did make loses of £6.6 billion in 2020 howay man sort ya self out now you any idea how ya come across last few weeks
Pardon just constant negativity everyday it’s got worse I since January 1st ffs Nissan is great news enjoy it there’s not much of it about at the minute
Why is stating facts being negative? Would you prefer people to tell lies?
Renault posted 6.6 billion loss which was much expected as all auto manufacturing is suffering in the pandemic.
Yes, so my point is still valid , the car market is having a tough time yes it is so even more of a positive with the Nissan news
Yes, and any money they receive from the UK
government will be more than welcome and not to be dismissed as insignificant?? "
enjoy ya nite mate if ya know how to fucking hell I need a drink lol |
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"I believe that Nissan got £2.6 million, to invest in new tooling. wow no wonder there doing so well that much eh lol
Well, they did make loses of £6.6 billion in 2020 howay man sort ya self out now you any idea how ya come across last few weeks
Pardon just constant negativity everyday it’s got worse I since January 1st ffs Nissan is great news enjoy it there’s not much of it about at the minute
Why is stating facts being negative? Would you prefer people to tell lies?
Renault posted 6.6 billion loss which was much expected as all auto manufacturing is suffering in the pandemic.
Yes, so my point is still valid , the car market is having a tough time yes it is so even more of a positive with the Nissan news
Yes, and any money they receive from the UK
government will be more than welcome and not to be dismissed as insignificant?? enjoy ya nite mate if ya know how to fucking hell I need a drink lol"
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"I believe that Nissan got £2.6 million, to invest in new tooling. wow no wonder there doing so well that much eh lol
Well, they did make loses of £6.6 billion in 2020 howay man sort ya self out now you any idea how ya come across last few weeks
Pardon just constant negativity everyday it’s got worse I since January 1st ffs Nissan is great news enjoy it there’s not much of it about at the minute
Why is stating facts being negative? Would you prefer people to tell lies?
Renault posted 6.6 billion loss which was much expected as all auto manufacturing is suffering in the pandemic.
Yes, so my point is still valid , the car market is having a tough time "
Indeed having a tough time as my example of Renault posting the figures you quoted show. Sadly many industries are suffering during the pandemic. When it passes (sooner the better) it will be Sunderland plant along with the new battery place pressing ahead |
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"I believe that Nissan got £2.6 million, to invest in new tooling. wow no wonder there doing so well that much eh lol
Well, they did make loses of £6.6 billion in 2020 howay man sort ya self out now you any idea how ya come across last few weeks
Pardon just constant negativity everyday it’s got worse I since January 1st ffs Nissan is great news enjoy it there’s not much of it about at the minute
Why is stating facts being negative? Would you prefer people to tell lies?
Renault posted 6.6 billion loss which was much expected as all auto manufacturing is suffering in the pandemic.
Yes, so my point is still valid , the car market is having a tough time
Indeed having a tough time as my example of Renault posting the figures you quoted show. Sadly many industries are suffering during the pandemic. When it passes (sooner the better) it will be Sunderland plant along with the new battery place pressing ahead"
Hopefully, it is going to be testing times for all car manufacturers with the exception of Tesla, who are thriving |
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"I believe that Nissan got £2.6 million, to invest in new tooling. wow no wonder there doing so well that much eh lol
Well, they did make loses of £6.6 billion in 2020 howay man sort ya self out now you any idea how ya come across last few weeks
Pardon just constant negativity everyday it’s got worse I since January 1st ffs Nissan is great news enjoy it there’s not much of it about at the minute
Why is stating facts being negative? Would you prefer people to tell lies?
Renault posted 6.6 billion loss which was much expected as all auto manufacturing is suffering in the pandemic.
Yes, so my point is still valid , the car market is having a tough time
Indeed having a tough time as my example of Renault posting the figures you quoted show. Sadly many industries are suffering during the pandemic. When it passes (sooner the better) it will be Sunderland plant along with the new battery place pressing ahead
Hopefully, it is going to be testing times for all car manufacturers with the exception of Tesla, who are thriving "
Yes and believe they have finally made a profit. Electric is certainly the in thing and Nissan is well placed especially with its new battery production facilities |
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"I believe that Nissan got £2.6 million, to invest in new tooling. wow no wonder there doing so well that much eh lol
Well, they did make loses of £6.6 billion in 2020 howay man sort ya self out now you any idea how ya come across last few weeks
Pardon just constant negativity everyday it’s got worse I since January 1st ffs Nissan is great news enjoy it there’s not much of it about at the minute
Why is stating facts being negative? Would you prefer people to tell lies?
Renault posted 6.6 billion loss which was much expected as all auto manufacturing is suffering in the pandemic.
Yes, so my point is still valid , the car market is having a tough time yes it is so even more of a positive with the Nissan news
Yes, and any money they receive from the UK
government will be more than welcome and not to be dismissed as insignificant?? enjoy ya nite mate if ya know how to fucking hell I need a drink lol"
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It does not really matter what figure Nissan got from the Gov't.
I have read it could be £2.6m, £80m or even £450m so there are various stories going around.
The Gov't would have been more expensive in the long term paying benifits to all the workers from the plant plus the supporting industries therefore on a cost basis, the money is a drop in the ocean.
More worrying is the review into the employment legislation which could see working hours increasing or could see nothing but quite a coincidence that it is being reviewed at the same time as the Gov't is sweetening Nissan and other businesses.
The net result is not a win for Brexshit however as some Brexshiteers would proudly proclaim but a return to the status quo plus additional cost to the taxpayer.
The manufacturing of the batteries is a plus - of that there is no doubt.
Without Brexshit, that would have been an unlikely outcome.
Let's hope that the Gov't looks at all the other industries that have failed or are failing due to Brexshit and tries to do the same.
Too late for the ones that have already moved to other countries within the EU.
Too late for all the financial houses that have moved billions from London to Paris and Berlin.
However, if the Gov't can now offer financial incentives to bring new businesses to the UK legally within the trade agreement with the EU, fantastic.
As Reece Mogg rightly said - we will know in 50 years if Brexshit has been a success or not.
I am sure that all the Brexshiteers were all behind him as surely that is what they voted for.
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"Brexshit
Is it any wonder the leave vote won so easily
Remainers will never understand that those type of words do nothing but alienate people.
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And leavers never use derogatory terms or adopt a suck it up losers attitude.
The hilarious thing is,they are that deluded,they are think they are somehow immune to any downturn coming their way |
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"Brexshit
Is it any wonder the leave vote won so easily
Remainers will never understand that those type of words do nothing but alienate people.
And leavers never use derogatory terms or adopt a suck it up losers attitude.
The hilarious thing is,they are that deluded,they are think they are somehow immune to any downturn coming their way "
Now leave voters are all deluded too?
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"Brexshit
Is it any wonder the leave vote won so easily
Remainers will never understand that those type of words do nothing but alienate people.
And leavers never use derogatory terms or adopt a suck it up losers attitude.
The hilarious thing is,they are that deluded,they are think they are somehow immune to any downturn coming their way
Now leave voters are all deluded too?
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"It does not really matter what figure Nissan got from the Gov't.
I have read it could be £2.6m, £80m or even £450m so there are various stories going around.
The Gov't would have been more expensive in the long term paying benifits to all the workers from the plant plus the supporting industries therefore on a cost basis, the money is a drop in the ocean.
More worrying is the review into the employment legislation which could see working hours increasing or could see nothing but quite a coincidence that it is being reviewed at the same time as the Gov't is sweetening Nissan and other businesses.
The net result is not a win for Brexshit however as some Brexshiteers would proudly proclaim but a return to the status quo plus additional cost to the taxpayer.
The manufacturing of the batteries is a plus - of that there is no doubt.
Without Brexshit, that would have been an unlikely outcome.
Let's hope that the Gov't looks at all the other industries that have failed or are failing due to Brexshit and tries to do the same.
Too late for the ones that have already moved to other countries within the EU.
Too late for all the financial houses that have moved billions from London to Paris and Berlin.
However, if the Gov't can now offer financial incentives to bring new businesses to the UK legally within the trade agreement with the EU, fantastic.
As Reece Mogg rightly said - we will know in 50 years if Brexshit has been a success or not.
I am sure that all the Brexshiteers were all behind him as surely that is what they voted for.
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As mentioned before the money story dates back to 2016 and in the end never got paid. Meeting country of origin limits was always possible as this is how they are set up anyway and even more so now with the battery plant. |
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"Brexshit
Is it any wonder the leave vote won so easily
Remainers will never understand that those type of words do nothing but alienate people.
And leavers never use derogatory terms or adopt a suck it up losers attitude.
The hilarious thing is,they are that deluded,they are think they are somehow immune to any downturn coming their way
Now leave voters are all deluded too?
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No not at all. |
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"As mentioned before the money story dates back to 2016 and in the end never got paid. Meeting country of origin limits was always possible as this is how they are set up anyway and even more so now with the battery plant"
Hard to believe that Nissan have not been offered a sweetener after papers released over the last few years confirm that they had.
I can just imagine the discussion in the board room...
"They offered us £60m then £80m and now that they offer us nothing, it is the time to say yes, we will stay"
Anyone who believes that must also believe that Brexshit was a good thing for the UK. |
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Favourable trading arrangements with eu - tick
Opportunity for enhanced competitive edge -tick
highly efficient productive factory - tick
Skilled efficient quality workforce - tick
Why do Nissan need a sweetener to stay ?
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"Brexshit
Is it any wonder the leave vote won so easily
Remainers will never understand that those type of words do nothing but alienate people.
And leavers never use derogatory terms or adopt a suck it up losers attitude.
The hilarious thing is,they are that deluded,they are think they are somehow immune to any downturn coming their way "
no Lionel nothing like the shit we get from remainers and you know it see there you go again you made yr point then chucked in deluded ffs |
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"Favourable trading arrangements with eu - tick
Opportunity for enhanced competitive edge -tick
highly efficient productive factory - tick
Skilled efficient quality workforce - tick
Why do Nissan need a sweetener to stay ?
All car companies play the game. It’s why there’s a Kia factory in Slovakia and Hyundai in Czech - or other way round? Both close to border but a subsidy from both countries.
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"If this thread is an example of Remainers wanting Britain to succeed I’d hate to see a thread where they really stick the boot in."
Has anyone on here not been totally for Nissan keeping the Sunderland plant open?
I thought not - so your point being? |
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""If this thread is an example of Remainers wanting Britain to succeed I’d hate to see a thread where they really stick the boot in."
Has anyone on here not been totally for Nissan keeping the Sunderland plant open?
I thought not - so your point being?"
maybe read yr own posts what is it you like to say brexshitters |
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The only people who have caused job losses, an economic slump on top of Covid-19, businesses moving to mainland Europe, food shortages, fisherman to protest etc.etc.are those who voted to leave the EU.
None of the above would have happened had the UK not left the Union.
We would not even have this thread as Nissan would not have threatened to clear their plant.
Yes - pretty aptly name this Brexshit.
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""If this thread is an example of Remainers wanting Britain to succeed I’d hate to see a thread where they really stick the boot in."
Has anyone on here not been totally for Nissan keeping the Sunderland plant open?
I thought not - so your point being?"
Yet you were querying a 2 million quid grant and working hours legislation, others ITT have tried to link Honda to Brexit, just a relentless wave of negativity.
It’s as if the hatred keeps you all alive. |
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"The only people who have caused job losses, an economic slump on top of Covid-19, businesses moving to mainland Europe, food shortages, fisherman to protest etc.etc.are those who voted to leave the EU.
None of the above would have happened had the UK not left the Union.
We would not even have this thread as Nissan would not have threatened to clear their plant.
Yes - pretty aptly name this Brexshit.
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You really do hate those people don't you.
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""As mentioned before the money story dates back to 2016 and in the end never got paid. Meeting country of origin limits was always possible as this is how they are set up anyway and even more so now with the battery plant"
Hard to believe that Nissan have not been offered a sweetener after papers released over the last few years confirm that they had.
I can just imagine the discussion in the board room...
"They offered us £60m then £80m and now that they offer us nothing, it is the time to say yes, we will stay"
Anyone who believes that must also believe that Brexshit was a good thing for the UK."
As I say that was back in 2016 and was linked to the new XTail model. As they didn't go ahead with it they did not qualify for the money. The business decision is to remain in the UK for their most important models and invest even more |
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"The only people who have caused job losses, an economic slump on top of Covid-19, businesses moving to mainland Europe, food shortages, fisherman to protest etc.etc.are those who voted to leave the EU.
None of the above would have happened had the UK not left the Union.
We would not even have this thread as Nissan would not have threatened to clear their plant.
Yes - pretty aptly name this Brexshit.
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ok so would you like the U.K. to do away with democracy then maybe a dictator then you can live in a country where ppls opinions can all be the same will that do for you ? I mean to hate ppl who don’t share yr views what does that make you ? |
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Looking at the effects on fishing, the price rises,the red tape,the loss of erasmus and the effects on the shelves on northern Ireland..it takes some thing special to claim, even at this early stage, then Brexit is going well.
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"Looking at the effects on fishing, the price rises,the red tape,the loss of erasmus and the effects on the shelves on northern Ireland..it takes some thing special to claim, even at this early stage, then Brexit is going well.
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iv never claimed that Lionel but we are only 3 weeks in and in middle of a pandemic see were we are this time next yr eh |
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"Looking at the effects on fishing, the price rises,the red tape,the loss of erasmus and the effects on the shelves on northern Ireland..it takes some thing special to claim, even at this early stage, then Brexit is going well.
iv never claimed that Lionel but we are only 3 weeks in and in middle of a pandemic see were we are this time next yr eh "
It wasnt aimed at you tbf |
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"Looking at the effects on fishing, the price rises,the red tape,the loss of erasmus and the effects on the shelves on northern Ireland..it takes some thing special to claim, even at this early stage, then Brexit is going well.
iv never claimed that Lionel but we are only 3 weeks in and in middle of a pandemic see were we are this time next yr eh
It wasnt aimed at you tbf"
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"Looking at the effects on fishing, the price rises,the red tape,the loss of erasmus and the effects on the shelves on northern Ireland..it takes some thing special to claim, even at this early stage, then Brexit is going well.
iv never claimed that Lionel but we are only 3 weeks in and in middle of a pandemic see were we are this time next yr eh
It wasnt aimed at you tbfI know Lionel I was just saying that’s all bud "
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It's not going well, Nissan is the only one that's said Brexit is going well. How much have they been paid I wonder?
Read about a cheese firm who were going to invest 1 million over in the UK but have lost money over the last few weeks since 1st of Jan. So now finding it difficult with all the red tape Health checks etc to send good to the EU So now have decided to open premises in France and we employ about 25 French now.
Boris Johnson just seems to have lied about the deal the firm are saying it's just as bad as having no Deal. |
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"It's not going well, Nissan is the only one that's said Brexit is going well. How much have they been paid I wonder?
Read about a cheese firm who were going to invest 1 million over in the UK but have lost money over the last few weeks since 1st of Jan. So now finding it difficult with all the red tape Health checks etc to send good to the EU So now have decided to open premises in France and we employ about 25 French now.
Boris Johnson just seems to have lied about the deal the firm are saying it's just as bad as having no Deal. "
Not sure what that's got to do with the good news about Nissan which is what the thread is about |
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"It's not going well, Nissan is the only one that's said Brexit is going well. How much have they been paid I wonder?
Read about a cheese firm who were going to invest 1 million over in the UK but have lost money over the last few weeks since 1st of Jan. So now finding it difficult with all the red tape Health checks etc to send good to the EU So now have decided to open premises in France and we employ about 25 French now.
Boris Johnson just seems to have lied about the deal the firm are saying it's just as bad as having no Deal.
Not sure what that's got to do with the good news about Nissan which is what the thread is about"
Just saying Brexit might be good for Nissan but no other companies. |
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"It's not going well, Nissan is the only one that's said Brexit is going well. How much have they been paid I wonder?
Read about a cheese firm who were going to invest 1 million over in the UK but have lost money over the last few weeks since 1st of Jan. So now finding it difficult with all the red tape Health checks etc to send good to the EU So now have decided to open premises in France and we employ about 25 French now.
Boris Johnson just seems to have lied about the deal the firm are saying it's just as bad as having no Deal.
Not sure what that's got to do with the good news about Nissan which is what the thread is about
Just saying Brexit might be good for Nissan but no other companies. "
This particular company makes the headlines due to its size and being in the media before important votes like the referendum, triggering article 50, General elections, withdrawal agreement, ect ectopic. Also its suppliers of which there are many benefit with long term security and increased work |
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"Nissan will officially launch the new hybrid Quashqai on 18 February. This is the next generation SUV being built at the Sunderland plant "
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"It is so funny how people will deny the clarity in front of their eyes and only believe what they want to hear.
Honda have closed down partly due to Brexit, partly due to uncertainty caused by Brexit, partly caused by the EU/Japan trade deal and partly because they would have had to have invested for new models.
Being polite is Japanese, saying it isn’t due to Brexit saves face. It doesn’t mean the above facts aren’t true. So choosing to listen to a public statement, rather than open your eyes is amusing. It explains a lot. "
If people read back to what came out of Honda in 2018 regarding all the potential problems and additional costs Brexit could easily cause the company then it's impossible to say Brexit didn't have any impact on decision making around that time.
People / companies can say what they like at the current "now" point in time but they can't take back what they have already previously said.
Unless Honda lied about the potential negative consequences of Brexit back in 2018? which they may have done because we've experienced none ourselves yet
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"It is so funny how people will deny the clarity in front of their eyes and only believe what they want to hear.
Honda have closed down partly due to Brexit, partly due to uncertainty caused by Brexit, partly caused by the EU/Japan trade deal and partly because they would have had to have invested for new models.
Being polite is Japanese, saying it isn’t due to Brexit saves face. It doesn’t mean the above facts aren’t true. So choosing to listen to a public statement, rather than open your eyes is amusing. It explains a lot.
If people read back to what came out of Honda in 2018 regarding all the potential problems and additional costs Brexit could easily cause the company then it's impossible to say Brexit didn't have any impact on decision making around that time.
People / companies can say what they like at the current "now" point in time but they can't take back what they have already previously said.
Unless Honda lied about the potential negative consequences of Brexit back in 2018? which they may have done because we've experienced none ourselves yet
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and yet Nissan say the deal gives them a competitive advantage Honda should copy the Nissan model then |
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"It is so funny how people will deny the clarity in front of their eyes and only believe what they want to hear.
Honda have closed down partly due to Brexit, partly due to uncertainty caused by Brexit, partly caused by the EU/Japan trade deal and partly because they would have had to have invested for new models.
Being polite is Japanese, saying it isn’t due to Brexit saves face. It doesn’t mean the above facts aren’t true. So choosing to listen to a public statement, rather than open your eyes is amusing. It explains a lot.
If people read back to what came out of Honda in 2018 regarding all the potential problems and additional costs Brexit could easily cause the company then it's impossible to say Brexit didn't have any impact on decision making around that time.
People / companies can say what they like at the current "now" point in time but they can't take back what they have already previously said.
Unless Honda lied about the potential negative consequences of Brexit back in 2018? which they may have done because we've experienced none ourselves yet
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Honda like Vauxhall, like Peugeot, like Ford, was in trouble for years and years WHILE WE WERE IN EUROPE with no new models and a mostly diesel powered range. |
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"It is so funny how people will deny the clarity in front of their eyes and only believe what they want to hear.
Honda have closed down partly due to Brexit, partly due to uncertainty caused by Brexit, partly caused by the EU/Japan trade deal and partly because they would have had to have invested for new models.
Being polite is Japanese, saying it isn’t due to Brexit saves face. It doesn’t mean the above facts aren’t true. So choosing to listen to a public statement, rather than open your eyes is amusing. It explains a lot.
If people read back to what came out of Honda in 2018 regarding all the potential problems and additional costs Brexit could easily cause the company then it's impossible to say Brexit didn't have any impact on decision making around that time.
People / companies can say what they like at the current "now" point in time but they can't take back what they have already previously said.
Unless Honda lied about the potential negative consequences of Brexit back in 2018? which they may have done because we've experienced none ourselves yet
Honda like Vauxhall, like Peugeot, like Ford, was in trouble for years and years WHILE WE WERE IN EUROPE with no new models and a mostly diesel powered range. "
They all built their factories in the UK, WHILE WE WERE IN EUROPE |
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"It is so funny how people will deny the clarity in front of their eyes and only believe what they want to hear.
Honda have closed down partly due to Brexit, partly due to uncertainty caused by Brexit, partly caused by the EU/Japan trade deal and partly because they would have had to have invested for new models.
Being polite is Japanese, saying it isn’t due to Brexit saves face. It doesn’t mean the above facts aren’t true. So choosing to listen to a public statement, rather than open your eyes is amusing. It explains a lot.
If people read back to what came out of Honda in 2018 regarding all the potential problems and additional costs Brexit could easily cause the company then it's impossible to say Brexit didn't have any impact on decision making around that time.
People / companies can say what they like at the current "now" point in time but they can't take back what they have already previously said.
Unless Honda lied about the potential negative consequences of Brexit back in 2018? which they may have done because we've experienced none ourselves yet
Honda like Vauxhall, like Peugeot, like Ford, was in trouble for years and years WHILE WE WERE IN EUROPE with no new models and a mostly diesel powered range.
They all built their factories in the UK, WHILE WE WERE IN EUROPE "
Total rubbish. The Ryton factory was formed by the Rootes group in 1939 and developed from 1945 onwards, Ford Southampton opened in 1953.
We’ve discussed your credibility with me several times. |
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"It is so funny how people will deny the clarity in front of their eyes and only believe what they want to hear.
Honda have closed down partly due to Brexit, partly due to uncertainty caused by Brexit, partly caused by the EU/Japan trade deal and partly because they would have had to have invested for new models.
Being polite is Japanese, saying it isn’t due to Brexit saves face. It doesn’t mean the above facts aren’t true. So choosing to listen to a public statement, rather than open your eyes is amusing. It explains a lot.
If people read back to what came out of Honda in 2018 regarding all the potential problems and additional costs Brexit could easily cause the company then it's impossible to say Brexit didn't have any impact on decision making around that time.
People / companies can say what they like at the current "now" point in time but they can't take back what they have already previously said.
Unless Honda lied about the potential negative consequences of Brexit back in 2018? which they may have done because we've experienced none ourselves yet
Honda like Vauxhall, like Peugeot, like Ford, was in trouble for years and years WHILE WE WERE IN EUROPE with no new models and a mostly diesel powered range.
They all built their factories in the UK, WHILE WE WERE IN EUROPE
Total rubbish. The Ryton factory was formed by the Rootes group in 1939 and developed from 1945 onwards, Ford Southampton opened in 1953.
We’ve discussed your credibility with me several times."
Incorrect , Nissan Sunderland 1984, Peugeot ryton, taken over 1978, closed 2006c re opened 2007 . Nice try though Chris |
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"It is so funny how people will deny the clarity in front of their eyes and only believe what they want to hear.
Honda have closed down partly due to Brexit, partly due to uncertainty caused by Brexit, partly caused by the EU/Japan trade deal and partly because they would have had to have invested for new models.
Being polite is Japanese, saying it isn’t due to Brexit saves face. It doesn’t mean the above facts aren’t true. So choosing to listen to a public statement, rather than open your eyes is amusing. It explains a lot.
If people read back to what came out of Honda in 2018 regarding all the potential problems and additional costs Brexit could easily cause the company then it's impossible to say Brexit didn't have any impact on decision making around that time.
People / companies can say what they like at the current "now" point in time but they can't take back what they have already previously said.
Unless Honda lied about the potential negative consequences of Brexit back in 2018? which they may have done because we've experienced none ourselves yet
Honda like Vauxhall, like Peugeot, like Ford, was in trouble for years and years WHILE WE WERE IN EUROPE with no new models and a mostly diesel powered range.
They all built their factories in the UK, WHILE WE WERE IN EUROPE
Total rubbish. The Ryton factory was formed by the Rootes group in 1939 and developed from 1945 onwards, Ford Southampton opened in 1953.
We’ve discussed your credibility with me several times.
Incorrect , Nissan Sunderland 1984, Peugeot ryton, taken over 1978, closed 2006c re opened 2007 . Nice try though Chris "
Nissan Sunderland is very much open due to Brexit, Ryton was a car factory long before being in Europe as you well know. |
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"It is so funny how people will deny the clarity in front of their eyes and only believe what they want to hear.
Honda have closed down partly due to Brexit, partly due to uncertainty caused by Brexit, partly caused by the EU/Japan trade deal and partly because they would have had to have invested for new models.
Being polite is Japanese, saying it isn’t due to Brexit saves face. It doesn’t mean the above facts aren’t true. So choosing to listen to a public statement, rather than open your eyes is amusing. It explains a lot.
If people read back to what came out of Honda in 2018 regarding all the potential problems and additional costs Brexit could easily cause the company then it's impossible to say Brexit didn't have any impact on decision making around that time.
People / companies can say what they like at the current "now" point in time but they can't take back what they have already previously said.
Unless Honda lied about the potential negative consequences of Brexit back in 2018? which they may have done because we've experienced none ourselves yet
Honda like Vauxhall, like Peugeot, like Ford, was in trouble for years and years WHILE WE WERE IN EUROPE with no new models and a mostly diesel powered range.
They all built their factories in the UK, WHILE WE WERE IN EUROPE
Total rubbish. The Ryton factory was formed by the Rootes group in 1939 and developed from 1945 onwards, Ford Southampton opened in 1953.
We’ve discussed your credibility with me several times.
Incorrect , Nissan Sunderland 1984, Peugeot ryton, taken over 1978, closed 2006c re opened 2007 . Nice try though Chris "
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"It is so funny how people will deny the clarity in front of their eyes and only believe what they want to hear.
Honda have closed down partly due to Brexit, partly due to uncertainty caused by Brexit, partly caused by the EU/Japan trade deal and partly because they would have had to have invested for new models.
Being polite is Japanese, saying it isn’t due to Brexit saves face. It doesn’t mean the above facts aren’t true. So choosing to listen to a public statement, rather than open your eyes is amusing. It explains a lot.
If people read back to what came out of Honda in 2018 regarding all the potential problems and additional costs Brexit could easily cause the company then it's impossible to say Brexit didn't have any impact on decision making around that time.
People / companies can say what they like at the current "now" point in time but they can't take back what they have already previously said.
Unless Honda lied about the potential negative consequences of Brexit back in 2018? which they may have done because we've experienced none ourselves yet
Honda like Vauxhall, like Peugeot, like Ford, was in trouble for years and years WHILE WE WERE IN EUROPE with no new models and a mostly diesel powered range.
They all built their factories in the UK, WHILE WE WERE IN EUROPE
Total rubbish. The Ryton factory was formed by the Rootes group in 1939 and developed from 1945 onwards, Ford Southampton opened in 1953.
We’ve discussed your credibility with me several times.
Incorrect , Nissan Sunderland 1984, Peugeot ryton, taken over 1978, closed 2006c re opened 2007 . Nice try though Chris Nissan Sunderland is very much open due to Brexit, Ryton was a car factory long before being in Europe as you well know."
Haha, it opened in 1978 |
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"It is so funny how people will deny the clarity in front of their eyes and only believe what they want to hear.
Honda have closed down partly due to Brexit, partly due to uncertainty caused by Brexit, partly caused by the EU/Japan trade deal and partly because they would have had to have invested for new models.
Being polite is Japanese, saying it isn’t due to Brexit saves face. It doesn’t mean the above facts aren’t true. So choosing to listen to a public statement, rather than open your eyes is amusing. It explains a lot.
If people read back to what came out of Honda in 2018 regarding all the potential problems and additional costs Brexit could easily cause the company then it's impossible to say Brexit didn't have any impact on decision making around that time.
People / companies can say what they like at the current "now" point in time but they can't take back what they have already previously said.
Unless Honda lied about the potential negative consequences of Brexit back in 2018? which they may have done because we've experienced none ourselves yet
and yet Nissan say the deal gives them a competitive advantage Honda should copy the Nissan model then "
Nissan have backed Sunderland for the long term making the most important vehicle in their range and scaling back in Europe. It can be a fast moving industry and those that do not adapt have problems |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
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"It is so funny how people will deny the clarity in front of their eyes and only believe what they want to hear.
Honda have closed down partly due to Brexit, partly due to uncertainty caused by Brexit, partly caused by the EU/Japan trade deal and partly because they would have had to have invested for new models.
Being polite is Japanese, saying it isn’t due to Brexit saves face. It doesn’t mean the above facts aren’t true. So choosing to listen to a public statement, rather than open your eyes is amusing. It explains a lot.
If people read back to what came out of Honda in 2018 regarding all the potential problems and additional costs Brexit could easily cause the company then it's impossible to say Brexit didn't have any impact on decision making around that time.
People / companies can say what they like at the current "now" point in time but they can't take back what they have already previously said.
Unless Honda lied about the potential negative consequences of Brexit back in 2018? which they may have done because we've experienced none ourselves yet
Honda like Vauxhall, like Peugeot, like Ford, was in trouble for years and years WHILE WE WERE IN EUROPE with no new models and a mostly diesel powered range.
They all built their factories in the UK, WHILE WE WERE IN EUROPE
Total rubbish. The Ryton factory was formed by the Rootes group in 1939 and developed from 1945 onwards, Ford Southampton opened in 1953.
We’ve discussed your credibility with me several times.
Incorrect , Nissan Sunderland 1984, Peugeot ryton, taken over 1978, closed 2006c re opened 2007 . Nice try though Chris "
Nissan Sunderland began production in the summer of 1986, and since then, not one minute has been lost to industrial action. |
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By *ackal1Couple
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Nissan and Toyota both cited the U.K. being part of the EU as critical in their original investment in the UK.
Honda didn’t have a big enough scale to cope with leaving the EU so couldn’t adapt. Swindon voted 54% to leave. Nice move.
The free trade deal with the EU also meant they could take production back to Japan.
Ellesmere Vauxhall are waiting on grants before their decision on staying with the Astra .
BMW will stay while mini sells well I would think .
Tata have the ability to move anytime as they have capacity in Eastern Europe so those grants better be generous . |
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By *e CapCouple
over a year ago
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"Nissan and Toyota both cited the U.K. being part of the EU as critical in their original investment in the UK.
Honda didn’t have a big enough scale to cope with leaving the EU so couldn’t adapt. Swindon voted 54% to leave. Nice move.
The free trade deal with the EU also meant they could take production back to Japan.
Ellesmere Vauxhall are waiting on grants before their decision on staying with the Astra .
BMW will stay while mini sells well I would think .
Tata have the ability to move anytime as they have capacity in Eastern Europe so those grants better be generous . "
I guess is the same for Nissan. Being a rebadged Renault or nearly same car they will stay here as long as they will sell enough or as long as UK government will cover some expenses. In the end of the day the french government has the last word. |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
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"Nissan and Toyota both cited the U.K. being part of the EU as critical in their original investment in the UK.
Honda didn’t have a big enough scale to cope with leaving the EU so couldn’t adapt. Swindon voted 54% to leave. Nice move.
The free trade deal with the EU also meant they could take production back to Japan.
Ellesmere Vauxhall are waiting on grants before their decision on staying with the Astra .
BMW will stay while mini sells well I would think .
Tata have the ability to move anytime as they have capacity in Eastern Europe so those grants better be generous . "
Its not Brexit thats going to do for Ellesmere Port. The owners are reluctant to invest, stating the Goverment's stance on banning diesel cars from 2030, as their reasons. |
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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago
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"Nissan and Toyota both cited the U.K. being part of the EU as critical in their original investment in the UK.
Honda didn’t have a big enough scale to cope with leaving the EU so couldn’t adapt. Swindon voted 54% to leave. Nice move.
The free trade deal with the EU also meant they could take production back to Japan.
Ellesmere Vauxhall are waiting on grants before their decision on staying with the Astra .
BMW will stay while mini sells well I would think .
Tata have the ability to move anytime as they have capacity in Eastern Europe so those grants better be generous .
Its not Brexit thats going to do for Ellesmere Port. The owners are reluctant to invest, stating the Goverment's stance on banning diesel cars from 2030, as their reasons. "
I didn’t mention Brexit with Ellesmere.
There are plans for battery factories here but Vauxhall’s owners will be risk averse if the money is tight. They know they can make Astra’s inside the EU. in Poland to be precise and as most Astra’s are exported to Europe it would make sense, on top of that their parts are mostly imported from the EU. Add customs to the pot and it’s stacking against Ellesmere without government intervention.
Boris and his 2030 deadline seems to be great if your green focused and a wonderful headline. Seems yet again when the detail is looked at he’s fucked his own country over yet again,
The man is a buffoon.
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It’s a Battery folks it’s a single component .. that’s all , just one solitary item ..
Just imagine will you a car factory .. 20.000 separate components to be assembled .A complex task requiring a factory bursting with technology , employees at every station .. Imagine if you will a tour through that factory amazed at what you see .
Then imagine stepping through the door to the battery production department .. Its 3 fucking blokes and a dog in comparison ! Making electrical charge storage units which is basically a box and not much else , oh the glamour of Battery production eh .
And what is this favourable competitive edge ? Battery production is hazardous shit with a whole load of toxic waste , so maybe that competitive edge is , that now out the EU that waste can be poured down the drain once again like in the old days .Hey it’s not like we can even sell the fish anymore !
Also have a look at Hydrogen filling stations in the UK .. Shell have just opened one near me . Check the Shell website . In total there are about 15 various owned filling points in the UK ..
Why is this of interest to Sunderland.?
Because Battery powered vehicles are limited , Charge time being the most limiting factor ..
Hydrogen powered vehicles refuel in very much the same way we do now with petrol / diesel . The existing network of filling stations can be relatively cheaply converted .
Bye bye battery powered vehicle ..
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over a year ago
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"It’s a Battery folks it’s a single component .. that’s all , just one solitary item ..
Just imagine will you a car factory .. 20.000 separate components to be assembled .A complex task requiring a factory bursting with technology , employees at every station .. Imagine if you will a tour through that factory amazed at what you see .
Then imagine stepping through the door to the battery production department .. Its 3 fucking blokes and a dog in comparison ! Making electrical charge storage units which is basically a box and not much else , oh the glamour of Battery production eh .
And what is this favourable competitive edge ? Battery production is hazardous shit with a whole load of toxic waste , so maybe that competitive edge is , that now out the EU that waste can be poured down the drain once again like in the old days .Hey it’s not like we can even sell the fish anymore !
Also have a look at Hydrogen filling stations in the UK .. Shell have just opened one near me . Check the Shell website . In total there are about 15 various owned filling points in the UK ..
Why is this of interest to Sunderland.?
Because Battery powered vehicles are limited , Charge time being the most limiting factor ..
Hydrogen powered vehicles refuel in very much the same way we do now with petrol / diesel . The existing network of filling stations can be relatively cheaply converted .
Bye bye battery powered vehicle ..
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You make an interesting point about batteries. The disposal is an issue .
Used Lithium batteries are slowly being banned by ferry companies. At the moment recycling in tne U.K. is limited but increasing so up to this year export was the only real option. If the major car manufacturers switch to batteries then thats.a huge uplift in disposal or recycling.
The capacity to deal with the used batteries is critical in the planning so it’s not just make them and forget them .
Hydrogen is a growing fuel source in industry so why not cars . |
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"It’s a Battery folks it’s a single component .. that’s all , just one solitary item ..
Just imagine will you a car factory .. 20.000 separate components to be assembled .A complex task requiring a factory bursting with technology , employees at every station .. Imagine if you will a tour through that factory amazed at what you see .
Then imagine stepping through the door to the battery production department .. Its 3 fucking blokes and a dog in comparison ! Making electrical charge storage units which is basically a box and not much else , oh the glamour of Battery production eh .
And what is this favourable competitive edge ? Battery production is hazardous shit with a whole load of toxic waste , so maybe that competitive edge is , that now out the EU that waste can be poured down the drain once again like in the old days .Hey it’s not like we can even sell the fish anymore !
Also have a look at Hydrogen filling stations in the UK .. Shell have just opened one near me . Check the Shell website . In total there are about 15 various owned filling points in the UK ..
Why is this of interest to Sunderland.?
Because Battery powered vehicles are limited , Charge time being the most limiting factor ..
Hydrogen powered vehicles refuel in very much the same way we do now with petrol / diesel . The existing network of filling stations can be relatively cheaply converted .
Bye bye battery powered vehicle ..
You make an interesting point about batteries. The disposal is an issue .
Used Lithium batteries are slowly being banned by ferry companies. At the moment recycling in tne U.K. is limited but increasing so up to this year export was the only real option. If the major car manufacturers switch to batteries then thats.a huge uplift in disposal or recycling.
The capacity to deal with the used batteries is critical in the planning so it’s not just make them and forget them .
Hydrogen is a growing fuel source in industry so why not cars . "
Hydrogen is not a natural fuel source, it has to be extracted then compressed for use.
I know there are hydrogen powered busses so there is no reason it can't be adopted for cars.
A quick search shows only a handful of hydrogen fuel points in the UK. The infrastructure to support vehicles would need to be put in place first.
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over a year ago
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"It’s a Battery folks it’s a single component .. that’s all , just one solitary item ..
Just imagine will you a car factory .. 20.000 separate components to be assembled .A complex task requiring a factory bursting with technology , employees at every station .. Imagine if you will a tour through that factory amazed at what you see .
Then imagine stepping through the door to the battery production department .. Its 3 fucking blokes and a dog in comparison ! Making electrical charge storage units which is basically a box and not much else , oh the glamour of Battery production eh .
And what is this favourable competitive edge ? Battery production is hazardous shit with a whole load of toxic waste , so maybe that competitive edge is , that now out the EU that waste can be poured down the drain once again like in the old days .Hey it’s not like we can even sell the fish anymore !
Also have a look at Hydrogen filling stations in the UK .. Shell have just opened one near me . Check the Shell website . In total there are about 15 various owned filling points in the UK ..
Why is this of interest to Sunderland.?
Because Battery powered vehicles are limited , Charge time being the most limiting factor ..
Hydrogen powered vehicles refuel in very much the same way we do now with petrol / diesel . The existing network of filling stations can be relatively cheaply converted .
Bye bye battery powered vehicle ..
You make an interesting point about batteries. The disposal is an issue .
Used Lithium batteries are slowly being banned by ferry companies. At the moment recycling in tne U.K. is limited but increasing so up to this year export was the only real option. If the major car manufacturers switch to batteries then thats.a huge uplift in disposal or recycling.
The capacity to deal with the used batteries is critical in the planning so it’s not just make them and forget them .
Hydrogen is a growing fuel source in industry so why not cars . "
Battery technology won the initial “arms race” to market with its on the surface green credentials.
The race to move away from hydrocarbons should been seen as a marathon rather than a sprint.
Hydrogen will in the longer term will be norm as it has the capacity to do the “heavy lifting” that current battery technology struggles with due to capacity and weight burden. |
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I’ve been watching Hydrogen technology for a good few years , I’m involved in the motor industry as a grade A technician . A very close relative is a lot higher up the food chain as a designer in said industry so we talk about the future a great deal .. Hydrogen has always been one of those topics .. The oil companies have always been a barrier to Hydrogen especially at the beginning and for good reason .. With Shell now stepping in with 3 ( at present ) and placing one in full public view at Gatwick , how long before the public start to ask “ Hey what’s this “
I do know the Met police have been testing Hydrogen powered vehicles in the form of 2 Suzuki super scooters ( the Bergman if anyone is interested) converted to use Hydrogen and so far results have been favourable ..
Fuel of the future ?? .. If the oil companies are now coming on board and allowing their network of filling stations to be used / finding profit in its supply .. most definitely |
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"I’ve been watching Hydrogen technology for a good few years , I’m involved in the motor industry as a grade A technician . A very close relative is a lot higher up the food chain as a designer in said industry so we talk about the future a great deal .. Hydrogen has always been one of those topics .. The oil companies have always been a barrier to Hydrogen especially at the beginning and for good reason .. With Shell now stepping in with 3 ( at present ) and placing one in full public view at Gatwick , how long before the public start to ask “ Hey what’s this “
I do know the Met police have been testing Hydrogen powered vehicles in the form of 2 Suzuki super scooters ( the Bergman if anyone is interested) converted to use Hydrogen and so far results have been favourable ..
Fuel of the future ?? .. If the oil companies are now coming on board and allowing their network of filling stations to be used / finding profit in its supply .. most definitely "
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"hydrogen fuel cell technology is already begining to lose ground to carbon battery technology. "
And you can back that statement up with ??
I’m suggesting major oil company investing heavily in Hydrogen .. |
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over a year ago
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"hydrogen fuel cell technology is already begining to lose ground to carbon battery technology.
And you can back that statement up with ??
I’m suggesting major oil company investing heavily in Hydrogen .. "
Hydrogen is a great idea for storing power use solar to compress it and release when the sun don’t shine
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"hydrogen fuel cell technology is already begining to lose ground to carbon battery technology.
And you can back that statement up with ??
I’m suggesting major oil company investing heavily in Hydrogen .. "
i was just highlighting the pace of technology and the battle for dominance. betamax v VHS as it were |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
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"hydrogen fuel cell technology is already begining to lose ground to carbon battery technology.
And you can back that statement up with ??
I’m suggesting major oil company investing heavily in Hydrogen .. "
The Goverment are investing heavily in green carbon neutral fuels, made from waste.
Building a plant at Immingham in North Lincolnshire. |
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"Nissan and Toyota both cited the U.K. being part of the EU as critical in their original investment in the UK.
Honda didn’t have a big enough scale to cope with leaving the EU so couldn’t adapt. Swindon voted 54% to leave. Nice move.
The free trade deal with the EU also meant they could take production back to Japan.
Ellesmere Vauxhall are waiting on grants before their decision on staying with the Astra .
BMW will stay while mini sells well I would think .
Tata have the ability to move anytime as they have capacity in Eastern Europe so those grants better be generous .
I guess is the same for Nissan. Being a rebadged Renault or nearly same car they will stay here as long as they will sell enough or as long as UK government will cover some expenses. In the end of the day the french government has the last word."
Incorrect. The Nissan and Renault are in an alliance along with Mitsubishi. They share common platforms that are neither Nissan or Renault but a combination. Nissan also use some Renault parts and Renault use some Nissan parts to keep the cost of development down. they also produce each others vehicles some times though nissan got their fingers burnt when they allowed renault to build the micra.The french government do not decide where Nissan builds cars. |
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By *e CapCouple
over a year ago
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Renault is the biggest shareholder in Nissan. The French government keeps shares in Renault exactly for this reason, to be able to move, shut, open, keep whatever factories they want as long as it is in the interest of French nation. They don’t have 100% control but they have the power to intervene when necessary. |
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"Renault is the biggest shareholder in Nissan. The French government keeps shares in Renault exactly for this reason, to be able to move, shut, open, keep whatever factories they want as long as it is in the interest of French nation. They don’t have 100% control but they have the power to intervene when necessary."
The alliance is a 50/50 split. Renault have 43 percent in Nissan so not a majority. The French government have shares in Renault only and can influence Renault plans only. If they could have influenced Nissan they would move production of the most important vehicles away from the UK to the continent. As we know the opposite happened and plants closed on the continent instead |
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By *e CapCouple
over a year ago
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"Renault is the biggest shareholder in Nissan. The French government keeps shares in Renault exactly for this reason, to be able to move, shut, open, keep whatever factories they want as long as it is in the interest of French nation. They don’t have 100% control but they have the power to intervene when necessary.
The alliance is a 50/50 split. Renault have 43 percent in Nissan so not a majority. The French government have shares in Renault only and can influence Renault plans only. If they could have influenced Nissan they would move production of the most important vehicles away from the UK to the continent. As we know the opposite happened and plants closed on the continent instead"
In theory you are right. The reality is a little bit more complex though. |
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"It’s a Battery folks it’s a single component .. that’s all , just one solitary item ..
Just imagine will you a car factory .. 20.000 separate components to be assembled .A complex task requiring a factory bursting with technology , employees at every station .. Imagine if you will a tour through that factory amazed at what you see .
Then imagine stepping through the door to the battery production department .. Its 3 fucking blokes and a dog in comparison ! Making electrical charge storage units which is basically a box and not much else , oh the glamour of Battery production eh .
And what is this favourable competitive edge ? Battery production is hazardous shit with a whole load of toxic waste , so maybe that competitive edge is , that now out the EU that waste can be poured down the drain once again like in the old days .Hey it’s not like we can even sell the fish anymore !
Also have a look at Hydrogen filling stations in the UK .. Shell have just opened one near me . Check the Shell website . In total there are about 15 various owned filling points in the UK ..
Why is this of interest to Sunderland.?
Because Battery powered vehicles are limited , Charge time being the most limiting factor ..
Hydrogen powered vehicles refuel in very much the same way we do now with petrol / diesel . The existing network of filling stations can be relatively cheaply converted .
Bye bye battery powered vehicle ..
You make an interesting point about batteries. The disposal is an issue .
Used Lithium batteries are slowly being banned by ferry companies. At the moment recycling in tne U.K. is limited but increasing so up to this year export was the only real option. If the major car manufacturers switch to batteries then thats.a huge uplift in disposal or recycling.
The capacity to deal with the used batteries is critical in the planning so it’s not just make them and forget them .
Hydrogen is a growing fuel source in industry so why not cars . "
batterie recycling plant opening on Teesside and hoping to do work with Nissan more good news and jobs |
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"It’s a Battery folks it’s a single component .. that’s all , just one solitary item ..
Just imagine will you a car factory .. 20.000 separate components to be assembled .A complex task requiring a factory bursting with technology , employees at every station .. Imagine if you will a tour through that factory amazed at what you see .
Then imagine stepping through the door to the battery production department .. Its 3 fucking blokes and a dog in comparison ! Making electrical charge storage units which is basically a box and not much else , oh the glamour of Battery production eh .
And what is this favourable competitive edge ? Battery production is hazardous shit with a whole load of toxic waste , so maybe that competitive edge is , that now out the EU that waste can be poured down the drain once again like in the old days .Hey it’s not like we can even sell the fish anymore !
Also have a look at Hydrogen filling stations in the UK .. Shell have just opened one near me . Check the Shell website . In total there are about 15 various owned filling points in the UK ..
Why is this of interest to Sunderland.?
Because Battery powered vehicles are limited , Charge time being the most limiting factor ..
Hydrogen powered vehicles refuel in very much the same way we do now with petrol / diesel . The existing network of filling stations can be relatively cheaply converted .
Bye bye battery powered vehicle ..
You make an interesting point about batteries. The disposal is an issue .
Used Lithium batteries are slowly being banned by ferry companies. At the moment recycling in tne U.K. is limited but increasing so up to this year export was the only real option. If the major car manufacturers switch to batteries then thats.a huge uplift in disposal or recycling.
The capacity to deal with the used batteries is critical in the planning so it’s not just make them and forget them .
Hydrogen is a growing fuel source in industry so why not cars . batterie recycling plant opening on Teesside and hoping to do work with Nissan more good news and jobs "
More chemical waste in Teeside ..excellent .. Maybe they can stick it with all that Nuclear waste in Billingham |
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"It’s a Battery folks it’s a single component .. that’s all , just one solitary item ..
Just imagine will you a car factory .. 20.000 separate components to be assembled .A complex task requiring a factory bursting with technology , employees at every station .. Imagine if you will a tour through that factory amazed at what you see .
Then imagine stepping through the door to the battery production department .. Its 3 fucking blokes and a dog in comparison ! Making electrical charge storage units which is basically a box and not much else , oh the glamour of Battery production eh .
And what is this favourable competitive edge ? Battery production is hazardous shit with a whole load of toxic waste , so maybe that competitive edge is , that now out the EU that waste can be poured down the drain once again like in the old days .Hey it’s not like we can even sell the fish anymore !
Also have a look at Hydrogen filling stations in the UK .. Shell have just opened one near me . Check the Shell website . In total there are about 15 various owned filling points in the UK ..
Why is this of interest to Sunderland.?
Because Battery powered vehicles are limited , Charge time being the most limiting factor ..
Hydrogen powered vehicles refuel in very much the same way we do now with petrol / diesel . The existing network of filling stations can be relatively cheaply converted .
Bye bye battery powered vehicle ..
You make an interesting point about batteries. The disposal is an issue .
Used Lithium batteries are slowly being banned by ferry companies. At the moment recycling in tne U.K. is limited but increasing so up to this year export was the only real option. If the major car manufacturers switch to batteries then thats.a huge uplift in disposal or recycling.
The capacity to deal with the used batteries is critical in the planning so it’s not just make them and forget them .
Hydrogen is a growing fuel source in industry so why not cars . batterie recycling plant opening on Teesside and hoping to do work with Nissan more good news and jobs
More chemical waste in Teeside ..excellent .. Maybe they can stick it with all that Nuclear waste in Billingham "
no sorry it’s recycling huni they are trying to use the old batteries so no waste hats of to them hope it works easy to knock rather than praise eh |
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"It’s a Battery folks it’s a single component .. that’s all , just one solitary item ..
Just imagine will you a car factory .. 20.000 separate components to be assembled .A complex task requiring a factory bursting with technology , employees at every station .. Imagine if you will a tour through that factory amazed at what you see .
Then imagine stepping through the door to the battery production department .. Its 3 fucking blokes and a dog in comparison ! Making electrical charge storage units which is basically a box and not much else , oh the glamour of Battery production eh .
And what is this favourable competitive edge ? Battery production is hazardous shit with a whole load of toxic waste , so maybe that competitive edge is , that now out the EU that waste can be poured down the drain once again like in the old days .Hey it’s not like we can even sell the fish anymore !
Also have a look at Hydrogen filling stations in the UK .. Shell have just opened one near me . Check the Shell website . In total there are about 15 various owned filling points in the UK ..
Why is this of interest to Sunderland.?
Because Battery powered vehicles are limited , Charge time being the most limiting factor ..
Hydrogen powered vehicles refuel in very much the same way we do now with petrol / diesel . The existing network of filling stations can be relatively cheaply converted .
Bye bye battery powered vehicle ..
You make an interesting point about batteries. The disposal is an issue .
Used Lithium batteries are slowly being banned by ferry companies. At the moment recycling in tne U.K. is limited but increasing so up to this year export was the only real option. If the major car manufacturers switch to batteries then thats.a huge uplift in disposal or recycling.
The capacity to deal with the used batteries is critical in the planning so it’s not just make them and forget them .
Hydrogen is a growing fuel source in industry so why not cars . batterie recycling plant opening on Teesside and hoping to do work with Nissan more good news and jobs
More chemical waste in Teeside ..excellent .. Maybe they can stick it with all that Nuclear waste in Billingham no sorry it’s recycling huni they are trying to use the old batteries so no waste hats of to them hope it works easy to knock rather than praise eh "
Recycling ? Into what .. it doesn’t really work like that . Recycling is never 100% . There’s always tons of waste left over , especially with batteries . Its far from waste paper ..
However perhaps Teeside is the best place to handle dangerous waste .. In years gone by its had massive experience dealing with toxic waste produced by ICI and other industries. It’s Fire Brigade were trained up and above any Brigade in the country to deal with emergencies such as chemical spillage ..
Your right though it is jobs , and I can understand the excitement in the area ,
I spent the first 25 years of my life in Teeside right in the heart of it .. At the end of the day though its just just a scrappy .. I wish Teeside well , I truly do .. |
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"It’s a Battery folks it’s a single component .. that’s all , just one solitary item ..
Just imagine will you a car factory .. 20.000 separate components to be assembled .A complex task requiring a factory bursting with technology , employees at every station .. Imagine if you will a tour through that factory amazed at what you see .
Then imagine stepping through the door to the battery production department .. Its 3 fucking blokes and a dog in comparison ! Making electrical charge storage units which is basically a box and not much else , oh the glamour of Battery production eh .
And what is this favourable competitive edge ? Battery production is hazardous shit with a whole load of toxic waste , so maybe that competitive edge is , that now out the EU that waste can be poured down the drain once again like in the old days .Hey it’s not like we can even sell the fish anymore !
Also have a look at Hydrogen filling stations in the UK .. Shell have just opened one near me . Check the Shell website . In total there are about 15 various owned filling points in the UK ..
Why is this of interest to Sunderland.?
Because Battery powered vehicles are limited , Charge time being the most limiting factor ..
Hydrogen powered vehicles refuel in very much the same way we do now with petrol / diesel . The existing network of filling stations can be relatively cheaply converted .
Bye bye battery powered vehicle ..
You make an interesting point about batteries. The disposal is an issue .
Used Lithium batteries are slowly being banned by ferry companies. At the moment recycling in tne U.K. is limited but increasing so up to this year export was the only real option. If the major car manufacturers switch to batteries then thats.a huge uplift in disposal or recycling.
The capacity to deal with the used batteries is critical in the planning so it’s not just make them and forget them .
Hydrogen is a growing fuel source in industry so why not cars . batterie recycling plant opening on Teesside and hoping to do work with Nissan more good news and jobs
More chemical waste in Teeside ..excellent .. Maybe they can stick it with all that Nuclear waste in Billingham no sorry it’s recycling huni they are trying to use the old batteries so no waste hats of to them hope it works easy to knock rather than praise eh
Recycling ? Into what .. it doesn’t really work like that . Recycling is never 100% . There’s always tons of waste left over , especially with batteries . Its far from waste paper ..
However perhaps Teeside is the best place to handle dangerous waste .. In years gone by its had massive experience dealing with toxic waste produced by ICI and other industries. It’s Fire Brigade were trained up and above any Brigade in the country to deal with emergencies such as chemical spillage ..
Your right though it is jobs , and I can understand the excitement in the area ,
I spent the first 25 years of my life in Teeside right in the heart of it .. At the end of the day though its just just a scrappy .. I wish Teeside well , I truly do .."
that’s the thing there turning them into new batteries and hoping for no waste if it can be done it’s great better than sticking them in the ground eh amd yes Teesside as a lot of experience with this type of thing can I ask where snouts you lived up here then ? |
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"It’s a Battery folks it’s a single component .. that’s all , just one solitary item ..
Just imagine will you a car factory .. 20.000 separate components to be assembled .A complex task requiring a factory bursting with technology , employees at every station .. Imagine if you will a tour through that factory amazed at what you see .
Then imagine stepping through the door to the battery production department .. Its 3 fucking blokes and a dog in comparison ! Making electrical charge storage units which is basically a box and not much else , oh the glamour of Battery production eh .
And what is this favourable competitive edge ? Battery production is hazardous shit with a whole load of toxic waste , so maybe that competitive edge is , that now out the EU that waste can be poured down the drain once again like in the old days .Hey it’s not like we can even sell the fish anymore !
Also have a look at Hydrogen filling stations in the UK .. Shell have just opened one near me . Check the Shell website . In total there are about 15 various owned filling points in the UK ..
Why is this of interest to Sunderland.?
Because Battery powered vehicles are limited , Charge time being the most limiting factor ..
Hydrogen powered vehicles refuel in very much the same way we do now with petrol / diesel . The existing network of filling stations can be relatively cheaply converted .
Bye bye battery powered vehicle ..
You make an interesting point about batteries. The disposal is an issue .
Used Lithium batteries are slowly being banned by ferry companies. At the moment recycling in tne U.K. is limited but increasing so up to this year export was the only real option. If the major car manufacturers switch to batteries then thats.a huge uplift in disposal or recycling.
The capacity to deal with the used batteries is critical in the planning so it’s not just make them and forget them .
Hydrogen is a growing fuel source in industry so why not cars . batterie recycling plant opening on Teesside and hoping to do work with Nissan more good news and jobs
More chemical waste in Teeside ..excellent .. Maybe they can stick it with all that Nuclear waste in Billingham no sorry it’s recycling huni they are trying to use the old batteries so no waste hats of to them hope it works easy to knock rather than praise eh
Recycling ? Into what .. it doesn’t really work like that . Recycling is never 100% . There’s always tons of waste left over , especially with batteries . Its far from waste paper ..
However perhaps Teeside is the best place to handle dangerous waste .. In years gone by its had massive experience dealing with toxic waste produced by ICI and other industries. It’s Fire Brigade were trained up and above any Brigade in the country to deal with emergencies such as chemical spillage ..
Your right though it is jobs , and I can understand the excitement in the area ,
I spent the first 25 years of my life in Teeside right in the heart of it .. At the end of the day though its just just a scrappy .. I wish Teeside well , I truly do ..that’s the thing there turning them into new batteries and hoping for no waste if it can be done it’s great better than sticking them in the ground eh amd yes Teesside as a lot of experience with this type of thing can I ask where snouts you lived up here then ?"
I was born old Billingham Cowper right in the middle of ICI .. Mam was from Boro , Northern Road just over Newport Bridge . That was late 60s 70s .. Then I lived in Stockton for a while when I moved from Home .. Got into a load of trouble cause there was not much work , in fact most work involved demolition at the time as it was Thatcher and the Tories .. Moved to London mid 80s looking for something better and never looked back really .. Still got rellies up there .. Dad died 4 years ago last time I was up .. |
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"It’s a Battery folks it’s a single component .. that’s all , just one solitary item ..
Just imagine will you a car factory .. 20.000 separate components to be assembled .A complex task requiring a factory bursting with technology , employees at every station .. Imagine if you will a tour through that factory amazed at what you see .
Then imagine stepping through the door to the battery production department .. Its 3 fucking blokes and a dog in comparison ! Making electrical charge storage units which is basically a box and not much else , oh the glamour of Battery production eh .
And what is this favourable competitive edge ? Battery production is hazardous shit with a whole load of toxic waste , so maybe that competitive edge is , that now out the EU that waste can be poured down the drain once again like in the old days .Hey it’s not like we can even sell the fish anymore !
Also have a look at Hydrogen filling stations in the UK .. Shell have just opened one near me . Check the Shell website . In total there are about 15 various owned filling points in the UK ..
Why is this of interest to Sunderland.?
Because Battery powered vehicles are limited , Charge time being the most limiting factor ..
Hydrogen powered vehicles refuel in very much the same way we do now with petrol / diesel . The existing network of filling stations can be relatively cheaply converted .
Bye bye battery powered vehicle ..
You make an interesting point about batteries. The disposal is an issue .
Used Lithium batteries are slowly being banned by ferry companies. At the moment recycling in tne U.K. is limited but increasing so up to this year export was the only real option. If the major car manufacturers switch to batteries then thats.a huge uplift in disposal or recycling.
The capacity to deal with the used batteries is critical in the planning so it’s not just make them and forget them .
Hydrogen is a growing fuel source in industry so why not cars . batterie recycling plant opening on Teesside and hoping to do work with Nissan more good news and jobs
More chemical waste in Teeside ..excellent .. Maybe they can stick it with all that Nuclear waste in Billingham no sorry it’s recycling huni they are trying to use the old batteries so no waste hats of to them hope it works easy to knock rather than praise eh
Recycling ? Into what .. it doesn’t really work like that . Recycling is never 100% . There’s always tons of waste left over , especially with batteries . Its far from waste paper ..
However perhaps Teeside is the best place to handle dangerous waste .. In years gone by its had massive experience dealing with toxic waste produced by ICI and other industries. It’s Fire Brigade were trained up and above any Brigade in the country to deal with emergencies such as chemical spillage ..
Your right though it is jobs , and I can understand the excitement in the area ,
I spent the first 25 years of my life in Teeside right in the heart of it .. At the end of the day though its just just a scrappy .. I wish Teeside well , I truly do ..that’s the thing there turning them into new batteries and hoping for no waste if it can be done it’s great better than sticking them in the ground eh amd yes Teesside as a lot of experience with this type of thing can I ask where snouts you lived up here then ?
I was born old Billingham Cowper right in the middle of ICI .. Mam was from Boro , Northern Road just over Newport Bridge . That was late 60s 70s .. Then I lived in Stockton for a while when I moved from Home .. Got into a load of trouble cause there was not much work , in fact most work involved demolition at the time as it was Thatcher and the Tories .. Moved to London mid 80s looking for something better and never looked back really .. Still got rellies up there .. Dad died 4 years ago last time I was up .. "
the wife’s a billingh lass Cowpen bewly I think I’m boro worked London for few months couldn’t stand the place couldn’t wait to get home glad it’s worked for you tho and when you miss a friendly face there’s half a million of them In Teesside lol |
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"Renault is the biggest shareholder in Nissan. The French government keeps shares in Renault exactly for this reason, to be able to move, shut, open, keep whatever factories they want as long as it is in the interest of French nation. They don’t have 100% control but they have the power to intervene when necessary.
The alliance is a 50/50 split. Renault have 43 percent in Nissan so not a majority. The French government have shares in Renault only and can influence Renault plans only. If they could have influenced Nissan they would move production of the most important vehicles away from the UK to the continent. As we know the opposite happened and plants closed on the continent instead
In theory you are right. The reality is a little bit more complex though."
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"It’s a Battery folks it’s a single component .. that’s all , just one solitary item ..
Just imagine will you a car factory .. 20.000 separate components to be assembled .A complex task requiring a factory bursting with technology , employees at every station .. Imagine if you will a tour through that factory amazed at what you see .
Then imagine stepping through the door to the battery production department .. Its 3 fucking blokes and a dog in comparison ! Making electrical charge storage units which is basically a box and not much else , oh the glamour of Battery production eh .
And what is this favourable competitive edge ? Battery production is hazardous shit with a whole load of toxic waste , so maybe that competitive edge is , that now out the EU that waste can be poured down the drain once again like in the old days .Hey it’s not like we can even sell the fish anymore !
Also have a look at Hydrogen filling stations in the UK .. Shell have just opened one near me . Check the Shell website . In total there are about 15 various owned filling points in the UK ..
Why is this of interest to Sunderland.?
Because Battery powered vehicles are limited , Charge time being the most limiting factor ..
Hydrogen powered vehicles refuel in very much the same way we do now with petrol / diesel . The existing network of filling stations can be relatively cheaply converted .
Bye bye battery powered vehicle ..
You make an interesting point about batteries. The disposal is an issue .
Used Lithium batteries are slowly being banned by ferry companies. At the moment recycling in tne U.K. is limited but increasing so up to this year export was the only real option. If the major car manufacturers switch to batteries then thats.a huge uplift in disposal or recycling.
The capacity to deal with the used batteries is critical in the planning so it’s not just make them and forget them .
Hydrogen is a growing fuel source in industry so why not cars . batterie recycling plant opening on Teesside and hoping to do work with Nissan more good news and jobs
More chemical waste in Teeside ..excellent .. Maybe they can stick it with all that Nuclear waste in Billingham no sorry it’s recycling huni they are trying to use the old batteries so no waste hats of to them hope it works easy to knock rather than praise eh
Recycling ? Into what .. it doesn’t really work like that . Recycling is never 100% . There’s always tons of waste left over , especially with batteries . Its far from waste paper ..
However perhaps Teeside is the best place to handle dangerous waste .. In years gone by its had massive experience dealing with toxic waste produced by ICI and other industries. It’s Fire Brigade were trained up and above any Brigade in the country to deal with emergencies such as chemical spillage ..
Your right though it is jobs , and I can understand the excitement in the area ,
I spent the first 25 years of my life in Teeside right in the heart of it .. At the end of the day though its just just a scrappy .. I wish Teeside well , I truly do ..that’s the thing there turning them into new batteries and hoping for no waste if it can be done it’s great better than sticking them in the ground eh amd yes Teesside as a lot of experience with this type of thing can I ask where snouts you lived up here then ?
I was born old Billingham Cowper right in the middle of ICI .. Mam was from Boro , Northern Road just over Newport Bridge . That was late 60s 70s .. Then I lived in Stockton for a while when I moved from Home .. Got into a load of trouble cause there was not much work , in fact most work involved demolition at the time as it was Thatcher and the Tories .. Moved to London mid 80s looking for something better and never looked back really .. Still got rellies up there .. Dad died 4 years ago last time I was up .. the wife’s a billingh lass Cowpen bewly I think I’m boro worked London for few months couldn’t stand the place couldn’t wait to get home glad it’s worked for you tho and when you miss a friendly face there’s half a million of them In Teesside lol"
A lot of lads came down to London back then for the work on the sites . Nearly all of them couldn’t wait to get back on the coach at Victoria to go home at the end of the week .. I fell in love with the place though , they went back I stayed down .. It changed me being down here though changed my way of thinking a lot both politically and spiritually ..
I still follow the “ Boro “ you never loose your roots in football , I’m Ayresome Park , Holgate End .. never been the Riverside . So I do understand the heart of Teeside . |
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"It’s a Battery folks it’s a single component .. that’s all , just one solitary item ..
Just imagine will you a car factory .. 20.000 separate components to be assembled .A complex task requiring a factory bursting with technology , employees at every station .. Imagine if you will a tour through that factory amazed at what you see .
Then imagine stepping through the door to the battery production department .. Its 3 fucking blokes and a dog in comparison ! Making electrical charge storage units which is basically a box and not much else , oh the glamour of Battery production eh .
And what is this favourable competitive edge ? Battery production is hazardous shit with a whole load of toxic waste , so maybe that competitive edge is , that now out the EU that waste can be poured down the drain once again like in the old days .Hey it’s not like we can even sell the fish anymore !
Also have a look at Hydrogen filling stations in the UK .. Shell have just opened one near me . Check the Shell website . In total there are about 15 various owned filling points in the UK ..
Why is this of interest to Sunderland.?
Because Battery powered vehicles are limited , Charge time being the most limiting factor ..
Hydrogen powered vehicles refuel in very much the same way we do now with petrol / diesel . The existing network of filling stations can be relatively cheaply converted .
Bye bye battery powered vehicle ..
You make an interesting point about batteries. The disposal is an issue .
Used Lithium batteries are slowly being banned by ferry companies. At the moment recycling in tne U.K. is limited but increasing so up to this year export was the only real option. If the major car manufacturers switch to batteries then thats.a huge uplift in disposal or recycling.
The capacity to deal with the used batteries is critical in the planning so it’s not just make them and forget them .
Hydrogen is a growing fuel source in industry so why not cars . batterie recycling plant opening on Teesside and hoping to do work with Nissan more good news and jobs
More chemical waste in Teeside ..excellent .. Maybe they can stick it with all that Nuclear waste in Billingham no sorry it’s recycling huni they are trying to use the old batteries so no waste hats of to them hope it works easy to knock rather than praise eh
Recycling ? Into what .. it doesn’t really work like that . Recycling is never 100% . There’s always tons of waste left over , especially with batteries . Its far from waste paper ..
However perhaps Teeside is the best place to handle dangerous waste .. In years gone by its had massive experience dealing with toxic waste produced by ICI and other industries. It’s Fire Brigade were trained up and above any Brigade in the country to deal with emergencies such as chemical spillage ..
Your right though it is jobs , and I can understand the excitement in the area ,
I spent the first 25 years of my life in Teeside right in the heart of it .. At the end of the day though its just just a scrappy .. I wish Teeside well , I truly do ..that’s the thing there turning them into new batteries and hoping for no waste if it can be done it’s great better than sticking them in the ground eh amd yes Teesside as a lot of experience with this type of thing can I ask where snouts you lived up here then ?"
Nissan have a battery second life schemes in Japan and hope here soon too if a success. The batteries are very powerful so when not good enough for a cars they use them as power storage for homes and businesses. |
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"It’s a Battery folks it’s a single component .. that’s all , just one solitary item ..
Just imagine will you a car factory .. 20.000 separate components to be assembled .A complex task requiring a factory bursting with technology , employees at every station .. Imagine if you will a tour through that factory amazed at what you see .
Then imagine stepping through the door to the battery production department .. Its 3 fucking blokes and a dog in comparison ! Making electrical charge storage units which is basically a box and not much else , oh the glamour of Battery production eh .
And what is this favourable competitive edge ? Battery production is hazardous shit with a whole load of toxic waste , so maybe that competitive edge is , that now out the EU that waste can be poured down the drain once again like in the old days .Hey it’s not like we can even sell the fish anymore !
Also have a look at Hydrogen filling stations in the UK .. Shell have just opened one near me . Check the Shell website . In total there are about 15 various owned filling points in the UK ..
Why is this of interest to Sunderland.?
Because Battery powered vehicles are limited , Charge time being the most limiting factor ..
Hydrogen powered vehicles refuel in very much the same way we do now with petrol / diesel . The existing network of filling stations can be relatively cheaply converted .
Bye bye battery powered vehicle ..
You make an interesting point about batteries. The disposal is an issue .
Used Lithium batteries are slowly being banned by ferry companies. At the moment recycling in tne U.K. is limited but increasing so up to this year export was the only real option. If the major car manufacturers switch to batteries then thats.a huge uplift in disposal or recycling.
The capacity to deal with the used batteries is critical in the planning so it’s not just make them and forget them .
Hydrogen is a growing fuel source in industry so why not cars . batterie recycling plant opening on Teesside and hoping to do work with Nissan more good news and jobs
More chemical waste in Teeside ..excellent .. Maybe they can stick it with all that Nuclear waste in Billingham no sorry it’s recycling huni they are trying to use the old batteries so no waste hats of to them hope it works easy to knock rather than praise eh
Recycling ? Into what .. it doesn’t really work like that . Recycling is never 100% . There’s always tons of waste left over , especially with batteries . Its far from waste paper ..
However perhaps Teeside is the best place to handle dangerous waste .. In years gone by its had massive experience dealing with toxic waste produced by ICI and other industries. It’s Fire Brigade were trained up and above any Brigade in the country to deal with emergencies such as chemical spillage ..
Your right though it is jobs , and I can understand the excitement in the area ,
I spent the first 25 years of my life in Teeside right in the heart of it .. At the end of the day though its just just a scrappy .. I wish Teeside well , I truly do ..that’s the thing there turning them into new batteries and hoping for no waste if it can be done it’s great better than sticking them in the ground eh amd yes Teesside as a lot of experience with this type of thing can I ask where snouts you lived up here then ?
I was born old Billingham Cowper right in the middle of ICI .. Mam was from Boro , Northern Road just over Newport Bridge . That was late 60s 70s .. Then I lived in Stockton for a while when I moved from Home .. Got into a load of trouble cause there was not much work , in fact most work involved demolition at the time as it was Thatcher and the Tories .. Moved to London mid 80s looking for something better and never looked back really .. Still got rellies up there .. Dad died 4 years ago last time I was up .. the wife’s a billingh lass Cowpen bewly I think I’m boro worked London for few months couldn’t stand the place couldn’t wait to get home glad it’s worked for you tho and when you miss a friendly face there’s half a million of them In Teesside lol
A lot of lads came down to London back then for the work on the sites . Nearly all of them couldn’t wait to get back on the coach at Victoria to go home at the end of the week .. I fell in love with the place though , they went back I stayed down .. It changed me being down here though changed my way of thinking a lot both politically and spiritually ..
I still follow the “ Boro “ you never loose your roots in football , I’m Ayresome Park , Holgate End .. never been the Riverside . So I do understand the heart of Teeside . "
yep I was one of them lads who couldn’t wait just wanted a decent Saturday nite out I couldn’t understand the capital having a shit nightlife but everyone to there own and really glad you found your happiness it’s the least we all deserve |
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"It’s a Battery folks it’s a single component .. that’s all , just one solitary item ..
Just imagine will you a car factory .. 20.000 separate components to be assembled .A complex task requiring a factory bursting with technology , employees at every station .. Imagine if you will a tour through that factory amazed at what you see .
Then imagine stepping through the door to the battery production department .. Its 3 fucking blokes and a dog in comparison ! Making electrical charge storage units which is basically a box and not much else , oh the glamour of Battery production eh .
And what is this favourable competitive edge ? Battery production is hazardous shit with a whole load of toxic waste , so maybe that competitive edge is , that now out the EU that waste can be poured down the drain once again like in the old days .Hey it’s not like we can even sell the fish anymore !
Also have a look at Hydrogen filling stations in the UK .. Shell have just opened one near me . Check the Shell website . In total there are about 15 various owned filling points in the UK ..
Why is this of interest to Sunderland.?
Because Battery powered vehicles are limited , Charge time being the most limiting factor ..
Hydrogen powered vehicles refuel in very much the same way we do now with petrol / diesel . The existing network of filling stations can be relatively cheaply converted .
Bye bye battery powered vehicle ..
You make an interesting point about batteries. The disposal is an issue .
Used Lithium batteries are slowly being banned by ferry companies. At the moment recycling in tne U.K. is limited but increasing so up to this year export was the only real option. If the major car manufacturers switch to batteries then thats.a huge uplift in disposal or recycling.
The capacity to deal with the used batteries is critical in the planning so it’s not just make them and forget them .
Hydrogen is a growing fuel source in industry so why not cars . batterie recycling plant opening on Teesside and hoping to do work with Nissan more good news and jobs
More chemical waste in Teeside ..excellent .. Maybe they can stick it with all that Nuclear waste in Billingham no sorry it’s recycling huni they are trying to use the old batteries so no waste hats of to them hope it works easy to knock rather than praise eh
Recycling ? Into what .. it doesn’t really work like that . Recycling is never 100% . There’s always tons of waste left over , especially with batteries . Its far from waste paper ..
However perhaps Teeside is the best place to handle dangerous waste .. In years gone by its had massive experience dealing with toxic waste produced by ICI and other industries. It’s Fire Brigade were trained up and above any Brigade in the country to deal with emergencies such as chemical spillage ..
Your right though it is jobs , and I can understand the excitement in the area ,
I spent the first 25 years of my life in Teeside right in the heart of it .. At the end of the day though its just just a scrappy .. I wish Teeside well , I truly do ..that’s the thing there turning them into new batteries and hoping for no waste if it can be done it’s great better than sticking them in the ground eh amd yes Teesside as a lot of experience with this type of thing can I ask where snouts you lived up here then ?
I was born old Billingham Cowper right in the middle of ICI .. Mam was from Boro , Northern Road just over Newport Bridge . That was late 60s 70s .. Then I lived in Stockton for a while when I moved from Home .. Got into a load of trouble cause there was not much work , in fact most work involved demolition at the time as it was Thatcher and the Tories .. Moved to London mid 80s looking for something better and never looked back really .. Still got rellies up there .. Dad died 4 years ago last time I was up .. the wife’s a billingh lass Cowpen bewly I think I’m boro worked London for few months couldn’t stand the place couldn’t wait to get home glad it’s worked for you tho and when you miss a friendly face there’s half a million of them In Teesside lol
A lot of lads came down to London back then for the work on the sites . Nearly all of them couldn’t wait to get back on the coach at Victoria to go home at the end of the week .. I fell in love with the place though , they went back I stayed down .. It changed me being down here though changed my way of thinking a lot both politically and spiritually ..
I still follow the “ Boro “ you never loose your roots in football , I’m Ayresome Park , Holgate End .. never been the Riverside . So I do understand the heart of Teeside . yep I was one of them lads who couldn’t wait just wanted a decent Saturday nite out I couldn’t understand the capital having a shit nightlife but everyone to there own and really glad you found your happiness it’s the least we all deserve "
i worked in London during the Thatcher years, the Irish ran the construction industry at the time and if you arrived from the north without any Irish contacts it was very hard to get construction work, i met dozens of jordies in the pubs and on the street and always gave them the phone numbers of Irish contractors and told them how the system worked, they were all sound men the jordies and all they wanted was a break that none of the stuck up,"south of watford" wankers were prepared to give them, as the southern English really looked down on northern people during the 80s,i wonder do they still have that attitude today |
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"It’s a Battery folks it’s a single component .. that’s all , just one solitary item ..
Just imagine will you a car factory .. 20.000 separate components to be assembled .A complex task requiring a factory bursting with technology , employees at every station .. Imagine if you will a tour through that factory amazed at what you see .
Then imagine stepping through the door to the battery production department .. Its 3 fucking blokes and a dog in comparison ! Making electrical charge storage units which is basically a box and not much else , oh the glamour of Battery production eh .
And what is this favourable competitive edge ? Battery production is hazardous shit with a whole load of toxic waste , so maybe that competitive edge is , that now out the EU that waste can be poured down the drain once again like in the old days .Hey it’s not like we can even sell the fish anymore !
Also have a look at Hydrogen filling stations in the UK .. Shell have just opened one near me . Check the Shell website . In total there are about 15 various owned filling points in the UK ..
Why is this of interest to Sunderland.?
Because Battery powered vehicles are limited , Charge time being the most limiting factor ..
Hydrogen powered vehicles refuel in very much the same way we do now with petrol / diesel . The existing network of filling stations can be relatively cheaply converted .
Bye bye battery powered vehicle ..
You make an interesting point about batteries. The disposal is an issue .
Used Lithium batteries are slowly being banned by ferry companies. At the moment recycling in tne U.K. is limited but increasing so up to this year export was the only real option. If the major car manufacturers switch to batteries then thats.a huge uplift in disposal or recycling.
The capacity to deal with the used batteries is critical in the planning so it’s not just make them and forget them .
Hydrogen is a growing fuel source in industry so why not cars . batterie recycling plant opening on Teesside and hoping to do work with Nissan more good news and jobs
More chemical waste in Teeside ..excellent .. Maybe they can stick it with all that Nuclear waste in Billingham no sorry it’s recycling huni they are trying to use the old batteries so no waste hats of to them hope it works easy to knock rather than praise eh
Recycling ? Into what .. it doesn’t really work like that . Recycling is never 100% . There’s always tons of waste left over , especially with batteries . Its far from waste paper ..
However perhaps Teeside is the best place to handle dangerous waste .. In years gone by its had massive experience dealing with toxic waste produced by ICI and other industries. It’s Fire Brigade were trained up and above any Brigade in the country to deal with emergencies such as chemical spillage ..
Your right though it is jobs , and I can understand the excitement in the area ,
I spent the first 25 years of my life in Teeside right in the heart of it .. At the end of the day though its just just a scrappy .. I wish Teeside well , I truly do ..that’s the thing there turning them into new batteries and hoping for no waste if it can be done it’s great better than sticking them in the ground eh amd yes Teesside as a lot of experience with this type of thing can I ask where snouts you lived up here then ?
I was born old Billingham Cowper right in the middle of ICI .. Mam was from Boro , Northern Road just over Newport Bridge . That was late 60s 70s .. Then I lived in Stockton for a while when I moved from Home .. Got into a load of trouble cause there was not much work , in fact most work involved demolition at the time as it was Thatcher and the Tories .. Moved to London mid 80s looking for something better and never looked back really .. Still got rellies up there .. Dad died 4 years ago last time I was up .. the wife’s a billingh lass Cowpen bewly I think I’m boro worked London for few months couldn’t stand the place couldn’t wait to get home glad it’s worked for you tho and when you miss a friendly face there’s half a million of them In Teesside lol
A lot of lads came down to London back then for the work on the sites . Nearly all of them couldn’t wait to get back on the coach at Victoria to go home at the end of the week .. I fell in love with the place though , they went back I stayed down .. It changed me being down here though changed my way of thinking a lot both politically and spiritually ..
I still follow the “ Boro “ you never loose your roots in football , I’m Ayresome Park , Holgate End .. never been the Riverside . So I do understand the heart of Teeside . yep I was one of them lads who couldn’t wait just wanted a decent Saturday nite out I couldn’t understand the capital having a shit nightlife but everyone to there own and really glad you found your happiness it’s the least we all deserve i worked in London during the Thatcher years, the Irish ran the construction industry at the time and if you arrived from the north without any Irish contacts it was very hard to get construction work, i met dozens of jordies in the pubs and on the street and always gave them the phone numbers of Irish contractors and told them how the system worked, they were all sound men the jordies and all they wanted was a break that none of the stuck up,"south of watford" wankers were prepared to give them, as the southern English really looked down on northern people during the 80s,i wonder do they still have that attitude today "
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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago
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"I’ve been watching Hydrogen technology for a good few years , I’m involved in the motor industry as a grade A technician . A very close relative is a lot higher up the food chain as a designer in said industry so we talk about the future a great deal .. Hydrogen has always been one of those topics .. The oil companies have always been a barrier to Hydrogen especially at the beginning and for good reason .. With Shell now stepping in with 3 ( at present ) and placing one in full public view at Gatwick , how long before the public start to ask “ Hey what’s this “
I do know the Met police have been testing Hydrogen powered vehicles in the form of 2 Suzuki super scooters ( the Bergman if anyone is interested) converted to use Hydrogen and so far results have been favourable ..
Fuel of the future ?? .. If the oil companies are now coming on board and allowing their network of filling stations to be used / finding profit in its supply .. most definitely "
Good post and from my own experience big business is very interested and further along than is publicly known. Amazing carbon credits are swinging it that way. |
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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago
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"It’s a Battery folks it’s a single component .. that’s all , just one solitary item ..
Just imagine will you a car factory .. 20.000 separate components to be assembled .A complex task requiring a factory bursting with technology , employees at every station .. Imagine if you will a tour through that factory amazed at what you see .
Then imagine stepping through the door to the battery production department .. Its 3 fucking blokes and a dog in comparison ! Making electrical charge storage units which is basically a box and not much else , oh the glamour of Battery production eh .
And what is this favourable competitive edge ? Battery production is hazardous shit with a whole load of toxic waste , so maybe that competitive edge is , that now out the EU that waste can be poured down the drain once again like in the old days .Hey it’s not like we can even sell the fish anymore !
Also have a look at Hydrogen filling stations in the UK .. Shell have just opened one near me . Check the Shell website . In total there are about 15 various owned filling points in the UK ..
Why is this of interest to Sunderland.?
Because Battery powered vehicles are limited , Charge time being the most limiting factor ..
Hydrogen powered vehicles refuel in very much the same way we do now with petrol / diesel . The existing network of filling stations can be relatively cheaply converted .
Bye bye battery powered vehicle ..
You make an interesting point about batteries. The disposal is an issue .
Used Lithium batteries are slowly being banned by ferry companies. At the moment recycling in tne U.K. is limited but increasing so up to this year export was the only real option. If the major car manufacturers switch to batteries then thats.a huge uplift in disposal or recycling.
The capacity to deal with the used batteries is critical in the planning so it’s not just make them and forget them .
Hydrogen is a growing fuel source in industry so why not cars . batterie recycling plant opening on Teesside and hoping to do work with Nissan more good news and jobs "
yes progress is good to a point, it takes more people to make the internal combustion engine which, when they’re no longer needed will mean unemployment for a lot of people.
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