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Political extremism and conspiracy fantasies

By *ild_oats OP Man over a year ago

the land of saints & sinners

Does having extreme political beliefs (both let and right) make your more susceptible to believe in conspiracy fantasies

Does belief in conspiracy fantasies make you more politically extreme...

Discuss....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Does having extreme political beliefs (both let and right) make your more susceptible to believe in conspiracy fantasies

Does belief in conspiracy fantasies make you more politically extreme...

Discuss...."

It is a combination of both, it is no coincidence that a large percentage of COVID deniers, anti vaxers, lockdown protesters etc also voted for Brexit

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By *ostafunMan over a year ago

near ipswich

"Does having extreme political beliefs (both let and right) make your more susceptible to believe in conspiracy fantasies

Does belief in conspiracy fantasies make you more politically extreme...

Discuss....

It is a combination of both, it is no coincidence that a large percentage of COVID deniers, anti vaxers, lockdown protesters etc also voted for Brexit "
Do you have any data to back that claim up?

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By *ssexbloke72Man over a year ago

Poplar

"Does having extreme political beliefs (both let and right) make your more susceptible to believe in conspiracy fantasies

Does belief in conspiracy fantasies make you more politically extreme...

Discuss....

It is a combination of both, it is no coincidence that a large percentage of COVID deniers, anti vaxers, lockdown protesters etc also voted for Brexit "

What a load of BS, you really are talking out of your backside now.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Does having extreme political beliefs (both let and right) make your more susceptible to believe in conspiracy fantasies

Does belief in conspiracy fantasies make you more politically extreme...

Discuss....

It is a combination of both, it is no coincidence that a large percentage of COVID deniers, anti vaxers, lockdown protesters etc also voted for Brexit Do you have any data to back that claim up?"

Yeah I'd like to see this data too

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Does having extreme political beliefs (both let and right) make your more susceptible to believe in conspiracy fantasies

Does belief in conspiracy fantasies make you more politically extreme...

Discuss....

It is a combination of both, it is no coincidence that a large percentage of COVID deniers, anti vaxers, lockdown protesters etc also voted for Brexit Do you have any data to back that claim up?"

Yeah loads, do you have any data to dispute it

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Does having extreme political beliefs (both let and right) make your more susceptible to believe in conspiracy fantasies

Does belief in conspiracy fantasies make you more politically extreme...

Discuss....

It is a combination of both, it is no coincidence that a large percentage of COVID deniers, anti vaxers, lockdown protesters etc also voted for Brexit Do you have any data to back that claim up?

Yeah I'd like to see this data too

https://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/brexit-and-trump-voters-more-likely-to-believe-in-conspiracy-theories-survey-study-shows

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Does having extreme political beliefs (both let and right) make your more susceptible to believe in conspiracy fantasies

Does belief in conspiracy fantasies make you more politically extreme...

Discuss....

It is a combination of both, it is no coincidence that a large percentage of COVID deniers, anti vaxers, lockdown protesters etc also voted for Brexit Do you have any data to back that claim up?

Yeah loads, do you have any data to dispute it "

How can anyone dispute data without being shown it in the first place?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

They also don’t believe in climate change

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2016/06/never-mind-brexit-recession-leave-voters-dont-believe-climate-change

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Does having extreme political beliefs (both let and right) make your more susceptible to believe in conspiracy fantasies

Does belief in conspiracy fantasies make you more politically extreme...

Discuss....

It is a combination of both, it is no coincidence that a large percentage of COVID deniers, anti vaxers, lockdown protesters etc also voted for Brexit Do you have any data to back that claim up?

Yeah loads, do you have any data to dispute it

How can anyone dispute data without being shown it in the first place?"

Read above

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Does having extreme political beliefs (both let and right) make your more susceptible to believe in conspiracy fantasies

Does belief in conspiracy fantasies make you more politically extreme...

Discuss....

It is a combination of both, it is no coincidence that a large percentage of COVID deniers, anti vaxers, lockdown protesters etc also voted for Brexit Do you have any data to back that claim up?

Yeah loads, do you have any data to dispute it

How can anyone dispute data without being shown it in the first place?

Read above

Yeah my bad. You posted whilst inwas replying.

I seriously reject the notion that 'a large percentage' fall into these categories as a whole.

Did you read it and check the %?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Does having extreme political beliefs (both let and right) make your more susceptible to believe in conspiracy fantasies

Does belief in conspiracy fantasies make you more politically extreme...

Discuss....

It is a combination of both, it is no coincidence that a large percentage of COVID deniers, anti vaxers, lockdown protesters etc also voted for Brexit Do you have any data to back that claim up?

Yeah loads, do you have any data to dispute it

How can anyone dispute data without being shown it in the first place?

Read above

Yeah my bad. You posted whilst inwas replying.

I seriously reject the notion that 'a large percentage' fall into these categories as a whole.

Did you read it and check the %?"

My bad, I should have said the ‘majority ‘ .

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"Does having extreme political beliefs (both let and right) make your more susceptible to believe in conspiracy fantasies

Does belief in conspiracy fantasies make you more politically extreme...

Discuss....

It is a combination of both, it is no coincidence that a large percentage of COVID deniers, anti vaxers, lockdown protesters etc also voted for Brexit "

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Does having extreme political beliefs (both let and right) make your more susceptible to believe in conspiracy fantasies

Does belief in conspiracy fantasies make you more politically extreme...

Discuss....

It is a combination of both, it is no coincidence that a large percentage of COVID deniers, anti vaxers, lockdown protesters etc also voted for Brexit Do you have any data to back that claim up?

Yeah loads, do you have any data to dispute it

How can anyone dispute data without being shown it in the first place?

Read above

Yeah my bad. You posted whilst inwas replying.

I seriously reject the notion that 'a large percentage' fall into these categories as a whole.

Did you read it and check the %?

My bad, I should have said the ‘majority ‘ . "

'Majority' would mean more than half/over 50%.

Please check the figures again. Unless I'm blind, you're telling lies.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Does having extreme political beliefs (both let and right) make your more susceptible to believe in conspiracy fantasies

Does belief in conspiracy fantasies make you more politically extreme...

Discuss....

It is a combination of both, it is no coincidence that a large percentage of COVID deniers, anti vaxers, lockdown protesters etc also voted for Brexit

What a load of BS, you really are talking out of your backside now."

Which one of those things seems out of place?

Didn't Farage move directly from brexit to anti-lockdown anti-science with his new party?

Ukip are also anti-science climate deniers.

If you're choosing to put your belief in non-science over science, wouldn't that inherently make you more susceptible to pro brexit propaganda?

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By *ostafunMan over a year ago

near ipswich

so this is what you are basing your theory on or did you just read the headlines?

Close to half of respondents who voted for Brexit (47%) and Trump (44%) believe their government is hiding the truth about immigration, compared with just 14% of Remain voters and 12% of Clinton voters.

so this is proof they they are more likely to believe conspiracy theories.

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By *ssexbloke72Man over a year ago

Poplar

"They also don’t believe in climate change

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2016/06/never-mind-brexit-recession-leave-voters-dont-believe-climate-change"

This was a poll of 1600 people.

17.5 million people voted to leave the EU.

To assume that poll represents the entire 17.5M is staggering to be quite honest.!

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney

my second youngest as part of their DProf has compiled a geographical map of brexit vote data and another of covid 19 incidence for the previous year. he showed me them as a series of overlays and the similarity between worst affected areas of covid and percentage of leave vote is striking.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"They also don’t believe in climate change

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2016/06/never-mind-brexit-recession-leave-voters-dont-believe-climate-change

This was a poll of 1600 people.

17.5 million people voted to leave the EU.

To assume that poll represents the entire 17.5M is staggering to be quite honest.!"

Just like any other poll, it makes interesting reading though

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"so this is what you are basing your theory on or did you just read the headlines?

so this is proof they they are more likely to believe conspiracy theories.

You must have some data that proves this incorrect ?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"so this is what you are basing your theory on or did you just read the headlines?

so this is proof they they are more likely to believe conspiracy theories.

You must have some data that proves this incorrect ?

I've already proved you incorrect

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"so this is what you are basing your theory on or did you just read the headlines?

so this is proof they they are more likely to believe conspiracy theories.

You must have some data that proves this incorrect ?

I've already proved you incorrect

My bad, leave voters are more likely to believe in conspiracy theories than remain voters, are you ok with that?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"my second youngest as part of their DProf has compiled a geographical map of brexit vote data and another of covid 19 incidence for the previous year. he showed me them as a series of overlays and the similarity between worst affected areas of covid and percentage of leave vote is striking."

Interesting but not surprising

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"They also don’t believe in climate change

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2016/06/never-mind-brexit-recession-leave-voters-dont-believe-climate-change

This was a poll of 1600 people.

17.5 million people voted to leave the EU.

To assume that poll represents the entire 17.5M is staggering to be quite honest.!"

17.4 million

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"so this is what you are basing your theory on or did you just read the headlines?

so this is proof they they are more likely to believe conspiracy theories.

You must have some data that proves this incorrect ?

I've already proved you incorrect

My bad, leave voters are more likely to believe in conspiracy theories than remain voters, are you ok with that?

Of course I'm ok with that but it's a far cry from your first statement

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"so this is what you are basing your theory on or did you just read the headlines?

so this is proof they they are more likely to believe conspiracy theories.

You must have some data that proves this incorrect ?

I've already proved you incorrect

My bad, leave voters are more likely to believe in conspiracy theories than remain voters, are you ok with that?

Of course I'm ok with that but it's a far cry from your first statement

Yes, but leave voters are more likely to believe in conspiracy theories than remain voters, interesting

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"so this is what you are basing your theory on or did you just read the headlines?

so this is proof they they are more likely to believe conspiracy theories.

You must have some data that proves this incorrect ?

I've already proved you incorrect

My bad, leave voters are more likely to believe in conspiracy theories than remain voters, are you ok with that?

Of course I'm ok with that but it's a far cry from your first statement

Yes, but leave voters are more likely to believe in conspiracy theories than remain voters, interesting "

I don't particularly find one poll taken in isolation interesting. There's surely more/better data available

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"so this is what you are basing your theory on or did you just read the headlines?

so this is proof they they are more likely to believe conspiracy theories.

You must have some data that proves this incorrect ?

I've already proved you incorrect

My bad, leave voters are more likely to believe in conspiracy theories than remain voters, are you ok with that?

Of course I'm ok with that but it's a far cry from your first statement

Yes, but leave voters are more likely to believe in conspiracy theories than remain voters, interesting

I don't particularly find one poll taken in isolation interesting. There's surely more/better data available"

Possibly, do you have any better data that refutes this? There’s surely more/better data available

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

It will be mostly those towns in the north wont it?

Think it's already been proved there is a link with inequality and covid.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"so this is what you are basing your theory on or did you just read the headlines?

so this is proof they they are more likely to believe conspiracy theories.

You must have some data that proves this incorrect ?

I've already proved you incorrect

My bad, leave voters are more likely to believe in conspiracy theories than remain voters, are you ok with that?

Of course I'm ok with that but it's a far cry from your first statement

Yes, but leave voters are more likely to believe in conspiracy theories than remain voters, interesting

I don't particularly find one poll taken in isolation interesting. There's surely more/better data available

Possibly, do you have any better data that refutes this? There’s surely more/better data available

I'm not trying to refute it. Simply saying that I don't find one poll all that interesting.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"so this is what you are basing your theory on or did you just read the headlines?

so this is proof they they are more likely to believe conspiracy theories.

You must have some data that proves this incorrect ?

I've already proved you incorrect

My bad, leave voters are more likely to believe in conspiracy theories than remain voters, are you ok with that?

Of course I'm ok with that but it's a far cry from your first statement

Yes, but leave voters are more likely to believe in conspiracy theories than remain voters, interesting

I don't particularly find one poll taken in isolation interesting. There's surely more/better data available

Possibly, do you have any better data that refutes this? There’s surely more/better data available

I'm not trying to refute it. Simply saying that I don't find one poll all that interesting."

I see, you read it though

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"so this is what you are basing your theory on or did you just read the headlines?

so this is proof they they are more likely to believe conspiracy theories.

You must have some data that proves this incorrect ?

I've already proved you incorrect

My bad, leave voters are more likely to believe in conspiracy theories than remain voters, are you ok with that?

Of course I'm ok with that but it's a far cry from your first statement

Yes, but leave voters are more likely to believe in conspiracy theories than remain voters, interesting

I don't particularly find one poll taken in isolation interesting. There's surely more/better data available

Possibly, do you have any better data that refutes this? There’s surely more/better data available

I'm not trying to refute it. Simply saying that I don't find one poll all that interesting.

I see, you read it though

Of course I read it. I wouldn't be able to comment on it if I hadn't

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By *ax777Man over a year ago

Not here

The only region in England to return a majority vote to remain is also the region with the highest number Covid-19 cases, ie London.

All other regions returned a majority leave vote and currently the 3 regions with the lowest infection rates are, in descending order, North East, South West and Yorkshire and Humber.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The only region in England to return a majority vote to remain is also the region with the highest number Covid-19 cases, ie London.

All other regions returned a majority leave vote and currently the 3 regions with the lowest infection rates are, in descending order, North East, South West and Yorkshire and Humber.

Try breaking up the regions to give a more accurate picture.

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By *ax777Man over a year ago

Not here

The only region in England to return a majority vote to remain is also the region with the highest number Covid-19 cases, ie London.

All other regions returned a majority leave vote and currently the 3 regions with the lowest infection rates are, in descending order, North East, South West and Yorkshire and Humber.

Try breaking up the regions to give a more accurate picture.

You do it!

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

The only region in England to return a majority vote to remain is also the region with the highest number Covid-19 cases, ie London.

All other regions returned a majority leave vote and currently the 3 regions with the lowest infection rates are, in descending order, North East, South West and Yorkshire and Humber.

Only 1 region voted to remain?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The only region in England to return a majority vote to remain is also the region with the highest number Covid-19 cases, ie London.

All other regions returned a majority leave vote and currently the 3 regions with the lowest infection rates are, in descending order, North East, South West and Yorkshire and Humber.

There are more humans in London. So you'd expect more cases.

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By *ax777Man over a year ago

Not here

The only region in England to return a majority vote to remain is also the region with the highest number Covid-19 cases, ie London.

All other regions returned a majority leave vote and currently the 3 regions with the lowest infection rates are, in descending order, North East, South West and Yorkshire and Humber.

Only 1 region voted to remain?"

In England, yes

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By *ax777Man over a year ago

Not here

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The only region in England to return a majority vote to remain is also the region with the highest number Covid-19 cases, ie London.

All other regions returned a majority leave vote and currently the 3 regions with the lowest infection rates are, in descending order, North East, South West and Yorkshire and Humber.

Try breaking up the regions to give a more accurate picture.

You do it!"

I have, using regions is vague ,

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By *ax777Man over a year ago

Not here

The only region in England to return a majority vote to remain is also the region with the highest number Covid-19 cases, ie London.

All other regions returned a majority leave vote and currently the 3 regions with the lowest infection rates are, in descending order, North East, South West and Yorkshire and Humber.

There are more humans in London. So you'd expect more cases. "

Not disputing that but the figures are cases per 100K of population and London currently stands at 702, next highest region is West Midlands at 574

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By *ax777Man over a year ago

Not here

The only region in England to return a majority vote to remain is also the region with the highest number Covid-19 cases, ie London.

All other regions returned a majority leave vote and currently the 3 regions with the lowest infection rates are, in descending order, North East, South West and Yorkshire and Humber.

Try breaking up the regions to give a more accurate picture.

You do it!

I have, using regions is vague ,

If it’s vague enough for the electoral commission then its vague enough for me.

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

The only region in England to return a majority vote to remain is also the region with the highest number Covid-19 cases, ie London.

All other regions returned a majority leave vote and currently the 3 regions with the lowest infection rates are, in descending order, North East, South West and Yorkshire and Humber.

Only 1 region voted to remain?

In England, yes"

Depends on how you define region

Liverpool city region voted overwhelmingly to stay.

The wider area voted to leave

So I'd say the area was split.

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By *ild_oats OP Man over a year ago

the land of saints & sinners

Back to the original question, a couple of studies and a poll posted so far appears to show a correlation between belief in political extremism and conspiracy fantasies.

Ignoring brexit for the moment does anyone have a counter argument that goes against the premise of the posed question?

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By *ax777Man over a year ago

Not here

The only region in England to return a majority vote to remain is also the region with the highest number Covid-19 cases, ie London.

All other regions returned a majority leave vote and currently the 3 regions with the lowest infection rates are, in descending order, North East, South West and Yorkshire and Humber.

Only 1 region voted to remain?

In England, yes

Depends on how you define region

Liverpool city region voted overwhelmingly to stay.

The wider area voted to leave

So I'd say the area was split."

Newcastle upon Tyne voted to remain but it isn’t a region, the North East is the region, as is the North West.

I’m not defining these regions, they are the accepted regional make up of England and both the EU Referendum results and the Covid-19 infection rates are released by those regions.

https://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/who-we-are-and-what-we-do/elections-and-referendums/past-elections-and-referendums/eu-referendum/results-and-turnout-eu-referendum

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The only region in England to return a majority vote to remain is also the region with the highest number Covid-19 cases, ie London.

All other regions returned a majority leave vote and currently the 3 regions with the lowest infection rates are, in descending order, North East, South West and Yorkshire and Humber.

Try breaking up the regions to give a more accurate picture.

You do it!

I have, using regions is vague ,

If it’s vague enough for the electoral commission then its vague enough for me."

Yes, it’s vague, glad you agree

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By *ax777Man over a year ago

Not here

The only region in England to return a majority vote to remain is also the region with the highest number Covid-19 cases, ie London.

All other regions returned a majority leave vote and currently the 3 regions with the lowest infection rates are, in descending order, North East, South West and Yorkshire and Humber.

Try breaking up the regions to give a more accurate picture.

You do it!

I have, using regions is vague ,

If it’s vague enough for the electoral commission then its vague enough for me.

Yes, it’s vague, glad you agree

You obviously missed the sarcasm

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The only region in England to return a majority vote to remain is also the region with the highest number Covid-19 cases, ie London.

All other regions returned a majority leave vote and currently the 3 regions with the lowest infection rates are, in descending order, North East, South West and Yorkshire and Humber.

Try breaking up the regions to give a more accurate picture.

You do it!

I have, using regions is vague ,

If it’s vague enough for the electoral commission then its vague enough for me.

Yes, it’s vague, glad you agree

You obviously missed the sarcasm "

You were being sarcastic? Really ???

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By *ax777Man over a year ago

Not here

"Back to the original question, a couple of studies and a poll posted so far appears to show a correlation between belief in political extremism and conspiracy fantasies.

Ignoring brexit for the moment does anyone have a counter argument that goes against the premise of the posed question?"

TBH, after reading some of the nonsense that gets posted in these fora, I would say that there is probably some truth in the survey findings.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Back to the original question, a couple of studies and a poll posted so far appears to show a correlation between belief in political extremism and conspiracy fantasies.

Ignoring brexit for the moment does anyone have a counter argument that goes against the premise of the posed question?"

What is your definition of "political extremism" in the context of this question?

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By *ild_oats OP Man over a year ago

the land of saints & sinners

"Back to the original question, a couple of studies and a poll posted so far appears to show a correlation between belief in political extremism and conspiracy fantasies.

Ignoring brexit for the moment does anyone have a counter argument that goes against the premise of the posed question?

What is your definition of "political extremism" in the context of this question?

That is kind of a subjective question depending on your viewpoint

But normally politically extremism is defined as an ideology that is considered to be outside of the mainstream policies.

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney

was it gove who said leave voters had had enough of highly qualified experts in their field

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"Back to the original question, a couple of studies and a poll posted so far appears to show a correlation between belief in political extremism and conspiracy fantasies.

Ignoring brexit for the moment does anyone have a counter argument that goes against the premise of the posed question?"

It's a difficult one as trump has changed the Landscape that much.Truth and reality simply dont exist anymore as he simply denied it,and people believed it.

And of course when reality sinks in,the only explanation is the conspiracy theory.

It happens here to a much lesser event.The bbc were reporting yesterday that the gmnt had never supported trump.

It's almost like a stalinist revision of history which the media didn't question.

Maybe not directly linked to conspiracy theories but when the past is rewritten, is it any wonder people look for explanations.

Maybe when politicians just lie on a daily basis it give credence to such theories..left or right?

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"was it gove who said leave voters had had enough of highly qualified experts in their field"

Yep I think so.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Back to the original question, a couple of studies and a poll posted so far appears to show a correlation between belief in political extremism and conspiracy fantasies.

Ignoring brexit for the moment does anyone have a counter argument that goes against the premise of the posed question?

What is your definition of "political extremism" in the context of this question?

That is kind of a subjective question depending on your viewpoint

But normally politically extremism is defined as an ideology that is considered to be outside of the mainstream policies."

It's easier to answer with specifics.

There's plenty of overlap of conspiracy theories and politics. Such as with climate change denial.

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By *V-AliceTV/TS over a year ago

Ayr

"Does having extreme political beliefs (both let and right) make your more susceptible to believe in conspiracy fantasies

Does belief in conspiracy fantasies make you more politically extreme...

Discuss...."

The answer to both of those questions, in reality, is no.

Oddly enough, though, if you're politically extreme and/or a lover of conspiracy theories; there's a higher than 50% chance that you're some sort of cunt.

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By *oggoneMan over a year ago

Derry

Conspiracy theories and disinformation have been a feature of those with authoritarian leanings for nearly 100 years now. You can still see this happening in the USA, Poland and Hungary. We saw President Obama being undermined with questions about his birth and religion. Hillary was damaged with Pizzagate and now a frightening level of Americans believe that Biden stole the election. Qanon unfortunately has a willing audience with the right wing.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Conspiracy theories and disinformation have been a feature of those with authoritarian leanings for nearly 100 years now. You can still see this happening in the USA, Poland and Hungary. We saw President Obama being undermined with questions about his birth and religion. Hillary was damaged with Pizzagate and now a frightening level of Americans believe that Biden stole the election. Qanon unfortunately has a willing audience with the right wing.

Didn't Pelosi say Trump stole the election last time?

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By *oxychick35Couple over a year ago

thornaby

"Does having extreme political beliefs (both let and right) make your more susceptible to believe in conspiracy fantasies

Does belief in conspiracy fantasies make you more politically extreme...

Discuss....

It is a combination of both, it is no coincidence that a large percentage of COVID deniers, anti vaxers, lockdown protesters etc also voted for Brexit Do you have any data to back that claim up?

Yeah I'd like to see this data too

https://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/brexit-and-trump-voters-more-likely-to-believe-in-conspiracy-theories-survey-study-shows"
since January the 1st you’ve sounded more like the ppl you’ve slain on here lol your getting worse

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By *oggoneMan over a year ago

Derry

Didn't Pelosi say Trump stole the election last time? "

No she didn't. She did say that Trump tried to corrupt the election. Given what we now know about russian interference and assisting Trump's election, she's not wrong.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Didn't Pelosi say Trump stole the election last time?

No she didn't. She did say that Trump tried to corrupt the election. Given what we now know about russian interference and assisting Trump's election, she's not wrong. "

Yes, apparently Trump is a Russian agent

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By *oggoneMan over a year ago

Derry

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By *oggoneMan over a year ago

Derry

Didn't Pelosi say Trump stole the election last time?

No she didn't. She did say that Trump tried to corrupt the election. Given what we now know about russian interference and assisting Trump's election, she's not wrong.

Yes, apparently Trump is a Russian agent

I have doubts that I have the patience or ability to continue this conversation in a form that you can comprehend so I'll dip out for now.

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

Thst press conference with Putin and trump was astonishing.

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By *mmabluTV/TS over a year ago

upton wirral

"Does having extreme political beliefs (both let and right) make your more susceptible to believe in conspiracy fantasies

Does belief in conspiracy fantasies make you more politically extreme...

Discuss....

It is a combination of both, it is no coincidence that a large percentage of COVID deniers, anti vaxers, lockdown protesters etc also voted for Brexit "
Rubbish you just come up with this crap brexiteers are NOT extreme you are an extreme racist

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"Does having extreme political beliefs (both let and right) make your more susceptible to believe in conspiracy fantasies

Does belief in conspiracy fantasies make you more politically extreme...

Discuss....

It is a combination of both, it is no coincidence that a large percentage of COVID deniers, anti vaxers, lockdown protesters etc also voted for Brexit Rubbish you just come up with this crap brexiteers are NOT extreme you are an extreme racist"

Outstanding

Is an extreme racist worse than a middle of the road one?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Does having extreme political beliefs (both let and right) make your more susceptible to believe in conspiracy fantasies

Does belief in conspiracy fantasies make you more politically extreme...

Discuss....

I would imagine some anti-vaxxers would be as annoyed at being associated with brexiteers.

But just to be clear, so we can understand you correctly, what makes the person who said this a "racist". He didn't appear to mention ethnicity, race, skin colour etc.

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By *L RogueMan over a year ago

London

"Does having extreme political beliefs (both let and right) make your more susceptible to believe in conspiracy fantasies

Does belief in conspiracy fantasies make you more politically extreme...

Discuss...."

I think conspiracy theories pull people further away from politics to be honest. It's ideology that draws people to conspiracies. They are usually the first to shout "fake news." Reminds me of someone here.

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