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Major argument going on in Brussels right now, Germany has been allocated far more vaccines where Poland, Czech Republic and Belgium don’t receive any:
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/germany-secures-bigger-share-of-covid-vaccines-than-other-eu-members-596z6tz0v?shareToken=2038c9ce2a9c7735c3ccfa110b1fe2cd
What a ridiculous dispute to be going on. |
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"Major argument going on in Brussels right now, Germany has been allocated far more vaccines where Poland, Czech Republic and Belgium don’t receive any:
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/germany-secures-bigger-share-of-covid-vaccines-than-other-eu-members-596z6tz0v?shareToken=2038c9ce2a9c7735c3ccfa110b1fe2cd
What a ridiculous dispute to be going on."
Your headline says that Germany have taken ‘all’ the vaccines? Is this true? |
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The EU and in particular Germany do appear to be having quite a torrid time with vaccine procurement and rollout...
"Germany secured 30 million doses of the BioNTech/Pfizer coronavirus vaccine in September.
But in doing so, it may have violated a legally binding pact that bans EU countries from signing separate vaccine deals."
Germany breaking international law by breaching a legally-binding treaty with the EU - EMA has been too slow at licensing vaccines and the failing EU joint-purchase of vaccines is failing.
I wonder if UK had opted to join the procurement programme how many doses we would have had at this point in time?
Less than Germany, more than France/Spain/Italy? who knows...
Anyway... looking forward
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"Major argument going on in Brussels right now, Germany has been allocated far more vaccines where Poland, Czech Republic and Belgium don’t receive any:
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/germany-secures-bigger-share-of-covid-vaccines-than-other-eu-members-596z6tz0v?shareToken=2038c9ce2a9c7735c3ccfa110b1fe2cd
What a ridiculous dispute to be going on.
Your headline says that Germany have taken ‘all’ the vaccines? Is this true? "
They’ve certainly taken ALL of the countries vaccines I listed plus four others are stated in the article, yes. Have a read, interesting. |
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"Major argument going on in Brussels right now, Germany has been allocated far more vaccines where Poland, Czech Republic and Belgium don’t receive any:
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/germany-secures-bigger-share-of-covid-vaccines-than-other-eu-members-596z6tz0v?shareToken=2038c9ce2a9c7735c3ccfa110b1fe2cd
What a ridiculous dispute to be going on.
Your headline says that Germany have taken ‘all’ the vaccines? Is this true?
They’ve certainly taken ALL of the countries vaccines I listed plus four others are stated in the article, yes. Have a read, interesting."
So they have ‘all of Europe’s’ vaccines? Wow, that is disgraceful |
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over a year ago
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"Why are brexiteers arsed?
Surely all your dreams have come true.
We have our freedom back.. we have took back control
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I thought you kept asking for Brexit benefits, surely this is one? |
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"Why are brexiteers arsed?
Surely all your dreams have come true.
We have our freedom back.. we have took back control
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Because they can’t let go, it wasn’t just about leaving the EU, they will only be truly fulfilled if the EU implodes. It’s a like a bad break up with an ex, you never want to see them be happy and content without you . I doubt anyone in the EU gives a shiny shit about the UK anymore  |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
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Seems that Germany broke a "legally binding" agreement not to purchase extra supplies outside of the EU agreement on vaccine procurement.
They may have another deal in the background for more supplies with another supplier.
There are also political machinations going on in Germany, with the speed of their programme. |
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"Why are brexiteers arsed?
Surely all your dreams have come true.
We have our freedom back.. we have took back control
I thought you kept asking for Brexit benefits, surely this is one? "
What exactly? |
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"Why are brexiteers arsed?
Surely all your dreams have come true.
We have our freedom back.. we have took back control
Because they can’t let go, it wasn’t just about leaving the EU, they will only be truly fulfilled if the EU implodes. It’s a like a bad break up with an ex, you never want to see them be happy and content without you . I doubt anyone in the EU gives a shiny shit about the UK anymore "
How many threads has their been in the last few days?
Surely they should be singing the praises of the likes of Farage and nuttall who have ushered in this brave new world full of hope and optimism? |
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"Why are brexiteers arsed?
Surely all your dreams have come true.
We have our freedom back.. we have took back control
Because they can’t let go, it wasn’t just about leaving the EU, they will only be truly fulfilled if the EU implodes. It’s a like a bad break up with an ex, you never want to see them be happy and content without you . I doubt anyone in the EU gives a shiny shit about the UK anymore
How many threads has their been in the last few days?
Surely they should be singing the praises of the likes of Farage and nuttall who have ushered in this brave new world full of hope and optimism?"
I know, some people will never be content. I would have thought the glory of Brexit and the endless list of benefits would have been enough, hopefully they will find happiness in the future |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
Grantham |
Richer EU countries now are buying up excess vaccines from the EU buying pot, after smaller EU countries declined to take up their full allocations.
Price and the temperature storage issues are putting many countries off.
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"Why are brexiteers arsed?
Surely all your dreams have come true.
We have our freedom back.. we have took back control
Because they can’t let go, it wasn’t just about leaving the EU, they will only be truly fulfilled if the EU implodes. It’s a like a bad break up with an ex, you never want to see them be happy and content without you . I doubt anyone in the EU gives a shiny shit about the UK anymore
How many threads has their been in the last few days?
Surely they should be singing the praises of the likes of Farage and nuttall who have ushered in this brave new world full of hope and optimism?
I know, some people will never be content. I would have thought the glory of Brexit and the endless list of benefits would have been enough, hopefully they will find happiness in the future "
They must still be waiting on those magic beans boris promised. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Why are brexiteers arsed?
Surely all your dreams have come true.
We have our freedom back.. we have took back control
Because they can’t let go, it wasn’t just about leaving the EU, they will only be truly fulfilled if the EU implodes. It’s a like a bad break up with an ex, you never want to see them be happy and content without you . I doubt anyone in the EU gives a shiny shit about the UK anymore
How many threads has their been in the last few days?
Surely they should be singing the praises of the likes of Farage and nuttall who have ushered in this brave new world full of hope and optimism?
I know, some people will never be content. I would have thought the glory of Brexit and the endless list of benefits would have been enough, hopefully they will find happiness in the future
They must still be waiting on those magic beans boris promised."
Maybe being in the EU wasn’t the real reason why they were so unhappy? |
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"Why are brexiteers arsed?
Surely all your dreams have come true.
We have our freedom back.. we have took back control
Because they can’t let go, it wasn’t just about leaving the EU, they will only be truly fulfilled if the EU implodes. It’s a like a bad break up with an ex, you never want to see them be happy and content without you . I doubt anyone in the EU gives a shiny shit about the UK anymore
How many threads has their been in the last few days?
Surely they should be singing the praises of the likes of Farage and nuttall who have ushered in this brave new world full of hope and optimism?
I know, some people will never be content. I would have thought the glory of Brexit and the endless list of benefits would have been enough, hopefully they will find happiness in the future
They must still be waiting on those magic beans boris promised.
Maybe being in the EU wasn’t the real reason why they were so unhappy? "
I think they are just so used to blaming the eu for everything, its 2nd nature? |
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"Why are brexiteers arsed?
Surely all your dreams have come true.
We have our freedom back.. we have took back control
Because they can’t let go, it wasn’t just about leaving the EU, they will only be truly fulfilled if the EU implodes. It’s a like a bad break up with an ex, you never want to see them be happy and content without you . I doubt anyone in the EU gives a shiny shit about the UK anymore
How many threads has their been in the last few days?
Surely they should be singing the praises of the likes of Farage and nuttall who have ushered in this brave new world full of hope and optimism?
I know, some people will never be content. I would have thought the glory of Brexit and the endless list of benefits would have been enough, hopefully they will find happiness in the future
They must still be waiting on those magic beans boris promised.
Maybe being in the EU wasn’t the real reason why they were so unhappy?
I think they are just so used to blaming the eu for everything, its 2nd nature?"
True, I wonder who they will start to blame next? |
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"Why are brexiteers arsed?
Surely all your dreams have come true.
We have our freedom back.. we have took back control
Because they can’t let go, it wasn’t just about leaving the EU, they will only be truly fulfilled if the EU implodes. It’s a like a bad break up with an ex, you never want to see them be happy and content without you . I doubt anyone in the EU gives a shiny shit about the UK anymore
How many threads has their been in the last few days?
Surely they should be singing the praises of the likes of Farage and nuttall who have ushered in this brave new world full of hope and optimism?
I know, some people will never be content. I would have thought the glory of Brexit and the endless list of benefits would have been enough, hopefully they will find happiness in the future
They must still be waiting on those magic beans boris promised.
Maybe being in the EU wasn’t the real reason why they were so unhappy? "
only unhappy ppl I see on here is you and Lionel |
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By *eroy1000Man
over a year ago
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"Major argument going on in Brussels right now, Germany has been allocated far more vaccines where Poland, Czech Republic and Belgium don’t receive any:
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/germany-secures-bigger-share-of-covid-vaccines-than-other-eu-members-596z6tz0v?shareToken=2038c9ce2a9c7735c3ccfa110b1fe2cd
What a ridiculous dispute to be going on."
If this is accurate how does Germany get away with doing this? Will the EU slap them with fines or just ignore it |
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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago
Manchester |
"Seems that Germany broke a "legally binding" agreement not to purchase extra supplies outside of the EU agreement on vaccine procurement.
They may have another deal in the background for more supplies with another supplier.
There are also political machinations going on in Germany, with the speed of their programme. "
Just a question.
During the transition period were we legally bound by that agreement? If so we must bought a lot vaccines last week to be able to be handing them out in their millions. Denmark must be at it too. They’re handed out more than us. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Why are brexiteers arsed?
Surely all your dreams have come true.
We have our freedom back.. we have took back control
Because they can’t let go, it wasn’t just about leaving the EU, they will only be truly fulfilled if the EU implodes. It’s a like a bad break up with an ex, you never want to see them be happy and content without you . I doubt anyone in the EU gives a shiny shit about the UK anymore
How many threads has their been in the last few days?
Surely they should be singing the praises of the likes of Farage and nuttall who have ushered in this brave new world full of hope and optimism?
I know, some people will never be content. I would have thought the glory of Brexit and the endless list of benefits would have been enough, hopefully they will find happiness in the future
They must still be waiting on those magic beans boris promised.
Maybe being in the EU wasn’t the real reason why they were so unhappy? only unhappy ppl I see on here is you and Lionel "
Your here now |
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"Why are brexiteers arsed?
Surely all your dreams have come true.
We have our freedom back.. we have took back control
Because they can’t let go, it wasn’t just about leaving the EU, they will only be truly fulfilled if the EU implodes. It’s a like a bad break up with an ex, you never want to see them be happy and content without you . I doubt anyone in the EU gives a shiny shit about the UK anymore
How many threads has their been in the last few days?
Surely they should be singing the praises of the likes of Farage and nuttall who have ushered in this brave new world full of hope and optimism?
I know, some people will never be content. I would have thought the glory of Brexit and the endless list of benefits would have been enough, hopefully they will find happiness in the future
They must still be waiting on those magic beans boris promised.
Maybe being in the EU wasn’t the real reason why they were so unhappy? only unhappy ppl I see on here is you and Lionel "
Not me mate
I'm sitting here waiting for my magical unicorn.
Not starting threads about the EU every 5 mins. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Seems that Germany broke a "legally binding" agreement not to purchase extra supplies outside of the EU agreement on vaccine procurement.
They may have another deal in the background for more supplies with another supplier.
There are also political machinations going on in Germany, with the speed of their programme.
Just a question.
During the transition period were we legally bound by that agreement? If so we must bought a lot vaccines last week to be able to be handing them out in their millions. Denmark must be at it too. They’re handed out more than us. "
No |
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By *eroy1000Man
over a year ago
milton keynes |
"Seems that Germany broke a "legally binding" agreement not to purchase extra supplies outside of the EU agreement on vaccine procurement.
They may have another deal in the background for more supplies with another supplier.
There are also political machinations going on in Germany, with the speed of their programme.
Just a question.
During the transition period were we legally bound by that agreement? If so we must bought a lot vaccines last week to be able to be handing them out in their millions. Denmark must be at it too. They’re handed out more than us. "
Everything I have read on it says the UK opted out of it so not legally bound at all. I am assuming this was possible as we had legally left before it happened but that is a guess |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"At least now theres a vaccine for covid, brexit will still rumble on like a disease we cant shake off or find a cure for .  "
True, I can’t understand why the Brexit voters aren’t happy with the outcome and keep harping on about the EU? As I have stated earlier, I doubt anyone in the EU gives a shit about the UK |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
Grantham |
"Seems that Germany broke a "legally binding" agreement not to purchase extra supplies outside of the EU agreement on vaccine procurement.
They may have another deal in the background for more supplies with another supplier.
There are also political machinations going on in Germany, with the speed of their programme.
Just a question.
During the transition period were we legally bound by that agreement? If so we must bought a lot vaccines last week to be able to be handing them out in their millions. Denmark must be at it too. They’re handed out more than us. "
Denmark is one of the countries buying up excess EU vaccines.
Looks like the Commision are going to "look the other way" on this. |
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"If some folks are anything like their online personalities, their curtains must be constantly twitching."
To be fair when you've invested so much negativity into something it takes time to wean off that and find something to else..
Lots of limes and lemons on sake for some to suck on.. |
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over a year ago
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"Meant back in Northern Ireland some shelves are empty, brexit bonus..  "
Well from what I gather many brexiteers want shot of NI. that's probably why they insisted on an irish sea border |
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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago
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"Meant back in Northern Ireland some shelves are empty, brexit bonus..
Well from what I gather many brexiteers want shot of NI. that's probably why they insisted on an irish sea border "
They didn't insist on it, they had to agree to it. The minister for NI denies it exists. Brexiteers ignored the issue of NI when they were campaigning before the referendum. Reality caught up with them eventually. The truth is Ireland was never going to accept a land border on the island so the UK has an internal customs border that leaves them a free trade area smaller than it's national borders. |
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"Meant back in Northern Ireland some shelves are empty, brexit bonus..
Well from what I gather many brexiteers want shot of NI. that's probably why they insisted on an irish sea border
They didn't insist on it, they had to agree to it. The minister for NI denies it exists. Brexiteers ignored the issue of NI when they were campaigning before the referendum. Reality caught up with them eventually. The truth is Ireland was never going to accept a land border on the island so the UK has an internal customs border that leaves them a free trade area smaller than it's national borders. "
I remember the days when we told those uppity irish what to do, amazing the benefits of being in a large club. |
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"If some folks are anything like their online personalities, their curtains must be constantly twitching.
To be fair when you've invested so much negativity into something it takes time to wean off that and find something to else..
Lots of limes and lemons on sake for some to suck on.."
The UK is a nation of curtain-twitchers - some might say they are just making sure the neighbours are safe, but it's more likely that many just enjoy a good gossip about the people down the road…
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"Major argument going on in Brussels right now, Germany has been allocated far more vaccines where Poland, Czech Republic and Belgium don’t receive any:
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/germany-secures-bigger-share-of-covid-vaccines-than-other-eu-members-596z6tz0v?shareToken=2038c9ce2a9c7735c3ccfa110b1fe2cd
What a ridiculous dispute to be going on."
thank god we are not in the EU more vacinations here so far than whole of the EU. |
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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago
Derry |
"If some folks are anything like their online personalities, their curtains must be constantly twitching.
To be fair when you've invested so much negativity into something it takes time to wean off that and find something to else..
Lots of limes and lemons on sake for some to suck on..
The UK is a nation of curtain-twitchers - some might say they are just making sure the neighbours are safe, but it's more likely that many just enjoy a good gossip about the people down the road…
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I don't it's reasonable to tar everyone with the same brush. Small minds discuss people. Average minds discuss events. Great minds discuss ideas. |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"Meant back in Northern Ireland some shelves are empty, brexit bonus..
Well from what I gather many brexiteers want shot of NI. that's probably why they insisted on an irish sea border "
Better tg have the vaccine than an apple |
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"If some folks are anything like their online personalities, their curtains must be constantly twitching.
To be fair when you've invested so much negativity into something it takes time to wean off that and find something to else..
Lots of limes and lemons on sake for some to suck on..
The UK is a nation of curtain-twitchers - some might say they are just making sure the neighbours are safe, but it's more likely that many just enjoy a good gossip about the people down the road…
I don't it's reasonable to tar everyone with the same brush. Small minds discuss people. Average minds discuss events. Great minds discuss ideas."
Kind of describes the forums, wouldn't you agree? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Meant back in Northern Ireland some shelves are empty, brexit bonus..
Well from what I gather many brexiteers want shot of NI. that's probably why they insisted on an irish sea border Better tg have the vaccine than an apple"
Lol I just love this guys little nuggets of wisdom. |
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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago
Manchester |
"Seems that Germany broke a "legally binding" agreement not to purchase extra supplies outside of the EU agreement on vaccine procurement.
They may have another deal in the background for more supplies with another supplier.
There are also political machinations going on in Germany, with the speed of their programme.
Just a question.
During the transition period were we legally bound by that agreement? If so we must bought a lot vaccines last week to be able to be handing them out in their millions. Denmark must be at it too. They’re handed out more than us.
Everything I have read on it says the UK opted out of it so not legally bound at all. I am assuming this was possible as we had legally left before it happened but that is a guess"
Turns out we were free to do as we like as were “all” other EU governments.
From the institute of government talking about the U.K. clearing the vaccines for use earlier.
“That said, none of these successes can be chalked up to Brexit. As the chief executive of the MHRA swiftly pointed out, Mr Hancock was wrong to say that the UK could approve the vaccine early because it was no longer subject to EU rules. The MHRA’s decision was taken in accordance with the relevant EU legislation, which allows member states to grant temporary authorisation for a medicinal product in response to the spread of infectious diseases (among others). [1] This legislation still applies to the UK until the end of the transition period. Any EU member state could have used the same provision of the legislation to approve the vaccine. They decided not to for political and technical reasons, not legal ones.
Similarly, the member states were in no way obliged to take part in the EU’s joint vaccine procurement scheme. The EU has very limited competences for public health under its founding treaties: it can take action only to “support, coordinate or supplement the actions of the Member States”. The EU member states in this case voluntarily decided to opt into the joint procurement scheme. If one or more of them had decided to follow the UK’s path and procure its own vaccines, no one would have stopped them.”
So not a Brexit win just a good timely buy. Like Denmark!, 
Hancock only had to keep quiet and take a pat on the back for doing well but he brings in Brexit and makes himself look at tit again.. |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"Seems that Germany broke a "legally binding" agreement not to purchase extra supplies outside of the EU agreement on vaccine procurement.
They may have another deal in the background for more supplies with another supplier.
There are also political machinations going on in Germany, with the speed of their programme.
Just a question.
During the transition period were we legally bound by that agreement? If so we must bought a lot vaccines last week to be able to be handing them out in their millions. Denmark must be at it too. They’re handed out more than us.
Everything I have read on it says the UK opted out of it so not legally bound at all. I am assuming this was possible as we had legally left before it happened but that is a guess
Turns out we were free to do as we like as were “all” other EU governments.
From the institute of government talking about the U.K. clearing the vaccines for use earlier.
“That said, none of these successes can be chalked up to Brexit. As the chief executive of the MHRA swiftly pointed out, Mr Hancock was wrong to say that the UK could approve the vaccine early because it was no longer subject to EU rules. The MHRA’s decision was taken in accordance with the relevant EU legislation, which allows member states to grant temporary authorisation for a medicinal product in response to the spread of infectious diseases (among others). [1] This legislation still applies to the UK until the end of the transition period. Any EU member state could have used the same provision of the legislation to approve the vaccine. They decided not to for political and technical reasons, not legal ones.
Similarly, the member states were in no way obliged to take part in the EU’s joint vaccine procurement scheme. The EU has very limited competences for public health under its founding treaties: it can take action only to “support, coordinate or supplement the actions of the Member States”. The EU member states in this case voluntarily decided to opt into the joint procurement scheme. If one or more of them had decided to follow the UK’s path and procure its own vaccines, no one would have stopped them.”
So not a Brexit win just a good timely buy. Like Denmark!,
Hancock only had to keep quiet and take a pat on the back for doing well but he brings in Brexit and makes himself look at tit again.. "
"Political reasons" there you go fuck the people who are going to die because they want to keep the political integrity of the eu.This is exactly why people voted to get out, they are not thinking of the people just maintaining their gravy train. |
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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago
Manchester |
"Seems that Germany broke a "legally binding" agreement not to purchase extra supplies outside of the EU agreement on vaccine procurement.
They may have another deal in the background for more supplies with another supplier.
There are also political machinations going on in Germany, with the speed of their programme.
Just a question.
During the transition period were we legally bound by that agreement? If so we must bought a lot vaccines last week to be able to be handing them out in their millions. Denmark must be at it too. They’re handed out more than us.
Everything I have read on it says the UK opted out of it so not legally bound at all. I am assuming this was possible as we had legally left before it happened but that is a guess
Turns out we were free to do as we like as were “all” other EU governments.
From the institute of government talking about the U.K. clearing the vaccines for use earlier.
“That said, none of these successes can be chalked up to Brexit. As the chief executive of the MHRA swiftly pointed out, Mr Hancock was wrong to say that the UK could approve the vaccine early because it was no longer subject to EU rules. The MHRA’s decision was taken in accordance with the relevant EU legislation, which allows member states to grant temporary authorisation for a medicinal product in response to the spread of infectious diseases (among others). [1] This legislation still applies to the UK until the end of the transition period. Any EU member state could have used the same provision of the legislation to approve the vaccine. They decided not to for political and technical reasons, not legal ones.
Similarly, the member states were in no way obliged to take part in the EU’s joint vaccine procurement scheme. The EU has very limited competences for public health under its founding treaties: it can take action only to “support, coordinate or supplement the actions of the Member States”. The EU member states in this case voluntarily decided to opt into the joint procurement scheme. If one or more of them had decided to follow the UK’s path and procure its own vaccines, no one would have stopped them.”
So not a Brexit win just a good timely buy. Like Denmark!,
Hancock only had to keep quiet and take a pat on the back for doing well but he brings in Brexit and makes himself look at tit again.. "Political reasons" there you go fuck the people who are going to die because they want to keep the political integrity of the eu.This is exactly why people voted to get out, they are not thinking of the people just maintaining their gravy train."
Each government did as they pleased. Nothing to blame the EU for. The EU blatantly didn’t dictate as they couldn’t they only offered support.
Remember some smaller and poorer countries would have very little chance of fighting alone to get the vaccine so actually it was us and Denmark saying fuck you lot and we don’t care if more of you you die. It’s every man for himself.
Let’s hope the government don’t decide to follow that mantra with the NHS. Fuck you if you can’t afford private health care you poor unemployed tosser. I’m alright Jack.
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"Seems that Germany broke a "legally binding" agreement not to purchase extra supplies outside of the EU agreement on vaccine procurement.
They may have another deal in the background for more supplies with another supplier.
There are also political machinations going on in Germany, with the speed of their programme.
Just a question.
During the transition period were we legally bound by that agreement? If so we must bought a lot vaccines last week to be able to be handing them out in their millions. Denmark must be at it too. They’re handed out more than us.
Denmark is one of the countries buying up excess EU vaccines.
Looks like the Commision are going to "look the other way" on this."
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"Seems that Germany broke a "legally binding" agreement not to purchase extra supplies outside of the EU agreement on vaccine procurement.
They may have another deal in the background for more supplies with another supplier.
There are also political machinations going on in Germany, with the speed of their programme.
Just a question.
During the transition period were we legally bound by that agreement? If so we must bought a lot vaccines last week to be able to be handing them out in their millions. Denmark must be at it too. They’re handed out more than us.
Everything I have read on it says the UK opted out of it so not legally bound at all. I am assuming this was possible as we had legally left before it happened but that is a guess
Turns out we were free to do as we like as were “all” other EU governments.
From the institute of government talking about the U.K. clearing the vaccines for use earlier.
“That said, none of these successes can be chalked up to Brexit. As the chief executive of the MHRA swiftly pointed out, Mr Hancock was wrong to say that the UK could approve the vaccine early because it was no longer subject to EU rules. The MHRA’s decision was taken in accordance with the relevant EU legislation, which allows member states to grant temporary authorisation for a medicinal product in response to the spread of infectious diseases (among others). [1] This legislation still applies to the UK until the end of the transition period. Any EU member state could have used the same provision of the legislation to approve the vaccine. They decided not to for political and technical reasons, not legal ones.
Similarly, the member states were in no way obliged to take part in the EU’s joint vaccine procurement scheme. The EU has very limited competences for public health under its founding treaties: it can take action only to “support, coordinate or supplement the actions of the Member States”. The EU member states in this case voluntarily decided to opt into the joint procurement scheme. If one or more of them had decided to follow the UK’s path and procure its own vaccines, no one would have stopped them.”
So not a Brexit win just a good timely buy. Like Denmark!,
Hancock only had to keep quiet and take a pat on the back for doing well but he brings in Brexit and makes himself look at tit again.. "Political reasons" there you go fuck the people who are going to die because they want to keep the political integrity of the eu.This is exactly why people voted to get out, they are not thinking of the people just maintaining their gravy train."
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"Seems that Germany broke a "legally binding" agreement not to purchase extra supplies outside of the EU agreement on vaccine procurement.
They may have another deal in the background for more supplies with another supplier.
There are also political machinations going on in Germany, with the speed of their programme.
Just a question.
During the transition period were we legally bound by that agreement? If so we must bought a lot vaccines last week to be able to be handing them out in their millions. Denmark must be at it too. They’re handed out more than us.
Everything I have read on it says the UK opted out of it so not legally bound at all. I am assuming this was possible as we had legally left before it happened but that is a guess
Turns out we were free to do as we like as were “all” other EU governments.
From the institute of government talking about the U.K. clearing the vaccines for use earlier.
“That said, none of these successes can be chalked up to Brexit. As the chief executive of the MHRA swiftly pointed out, Mr Hancock was wrong to say that the UK could approve the vaccine early because it was no longer subject to EU rules. The MHRA’s decision was taken in accordance with the relevant EU legislation, which allows member states to grant temporary authorisation for a medicinal product in response to the spread of infectious diseases (among others). [1] This legislation still applies to the UK until the end of the transition period. Any EU member state could have used the same provision of the legislation to approve the vaccine. They decided not to for political and technical reasons, not legal ones.
Similarly, the member states were in no way obliged to take part in the EU’s joint vaccine procurement scheme. The EU has very limited competences for public health under its founding treaties: it can take action only to “support, coordinate or supplement the actions of the Member States”. The EU member states in this case voluntarily decided to opt into the joint procurement scheme. If one or more of them had decided to follow the UK’s path and procure its own vaccines, no one would have stopped them.”
So not a Brexit win just a good timely buy. Like Denmark!,
Hancock only had to keep quiet and take a pat on the back for doing well but he brings in Brexit and makes himself look at tit again.. "Political reasons" there you go fuck the people who are going to die because they want to keep the political integrity of the eu.This is exactly why people voted to get out, they are not thinking of the people just maintaining their gravy train.
Each government did as they pleased. Nothing to blame the EU for. The EU blatantly didn’t dictate as they couldn’t they only offered support.
Remember some smaller and poorer countries would have very little chance of fighting alone to get the vaccine so actually it was us and Denmark saying fuck you lot and we don’t care if more of you you die. It’s every man for himself.
Let’s hope the government don’t decide to follow that mantra with the NHS. Fuck you if you can’t afford private health care you poor unemployed tosser. I’m alright Jack.
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Why would they ? still buying into the left wing claptrap i see.Yeah im sure all 27 countries governments said a big fuck you to their citizens without any eu influence. |
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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago
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"Seems that Germany broke a "legally binding" agreement not to purchase extra supplies outside of the EU agreement on vaccine procurement.
They may have another deal in the background for more supplies with another supplier.
There are also political machinations going on in Germany, with the speed of their programme.
Just a question.
During the transition period were we legally bound by that agreement? If so we must bought a lot vaccines last week to be able to be handing them out in their millions. Denmark must be at it too. They’re handed out more than us.
Everything I have read on it says the UK opted out of it so not legally bound at all. I am assuming this was possible as we had legally left before it happened but that is a guess
Turns out we were free to do as we like as were “all” other EU governments.
From the institute of government talking about the U.K. clearing the vaccines for use earlier.
“That said, none of these successes can be chalked up to Brexit. As the chief executive of the MHRA swiftly pointed out, Mr Hancock was wrong to say that the UK could approve the vaccine early because it was no longer subject to EU rules. The MHRA’s decision was taken in accordance with the relevant EU legislation, which allows member states to grant temporary authorisation for a medicinal product in response to the spread of infectious diseases (among others). [1] This legislation still applies to the UK until the end of the transition period. Any EU member state could have used the same provision of the legislation to approve the vaccine. They decided not to for political and technical reasons, not legal ones.
Similarly, the member states were in no way obliged to take part in the EU’s joint vaccine procurement scheme. The EU has very limited competences for public health under its founding treaties: it can take action only to “support, coordinate or supplement the actions of the Member States”. The EU member states in this case voluntarily decided to opt into the joint procurement scheme. If one or more of them had decided to follow the UK’s path and procure its own vaccines, no one would have stopped them.”
So not a Brexit win just a good timely buy. Like Denmark!,
Hancock only had to keep quiet and take a pat on the back for doing well but he brings in Brexit and makes himself look at tit again.. "Political reasons" there you go fuck the people who are going to die because they want to keep the political integrity of the eu.This is exactly why people voted to get out, they are not thinking of the people just maintaining their gravy train."
The actual reason was the European Medicines Agency thought it prudent to make sure that the quality, effectiveness and safety is guaranteed and matches EU standards. I don't think gravy or trains came into the decision. |
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"Major argument going on in Brussels right now, Germany has been allocated far more vaccines where Poland, Czech Republic and Belgium don’t receive any:
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/germany-secures-bigger-share-of-covid-vaccines-than-other-eu-members-596z6tz0v?shareToken=2038c9ce2a9c7735c3ccfa110b1fe2cd
What a ridiculous dispute to be going on.thank god we are not in the EU more vacinations here so far than whole of the EU."
Its mad how that clown trots out a line and is recited ad nauseam by his followers.
He didnt mention we got the vaccine weeks before the eu
He also didnt mention Israel's programme puts ours to shame. |
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"Seems that Germany broke a "legally binding" agreement not to purchase extra supplies outside of the EU agreement on vaccine procurement.
They may have another deal in the background for more supplies with another supplier.
There are also political machinations going on in Germany, with the speed of their programme.
Just a question.
During the transition period were we legally bound by that agreement? If so we must bought a lot vaccines last week to be able to be handing them out in their millions. Denmark must be at it too. They’re handed out more than us.
Everything I have read on it says the UK opted out of it so not legally bound at all. I am assuming this was possible as we had legally left before it happened but that is a guess
Turns out we were free to do as we like as were “all” other EU governments.
From the institute of government talking about the U.K. clearing the vaccines for use earlier.
“That said, none of these successes can be chalked up to Brexit. As the chief executive of the MHRA swiftly pointed out, Mr Hancock was wrong to say that the UK could approve the vaccine early because it was no longer subject to EU rules. The MHRA’s decision was taken in accordance with the relevant EU legislation, which allows member states to grant temporary authorisation for a medicinal product in response to the spread of infectious diseases (among others). [1] This legislation still applies to the UK until the end of the transition period. Any EU member state could have used the same provision of the legislation to approve the vaccine. They decided not to for political and technical reasons, not legal ones.
Similarly, the member states were in no way obliged to take part in the EU’s joint vaccine procurement scheme. The EU has very limited competences for public health under its founding treaties: it can take action only to “support, coordinate or supplement the actions of the Member States”. The EU member states in this case voluntarily decided to opt into the joint procurement scheme. If one or more of them had decided to follow the UK’s path and procure its own vaccines, no one would have stopped them.”
So not a Brexit win just a good timely buy. Like Denmark!,
Hancock only had to keep quiet and take a pat on the back for doing well but he brings in Brexit and makes himself look at tit again.. "Political reasons" there you go fuck the people who are going to die because they want to keep the political integrity of the eu.This is exactly why people voted to get out, they are not thinking of the people just maintaining their gravy train.
The actual reason was the European Medicines Agency thought it prudent to make sure that the quality, effectiveness and safety is guaranteed and matches EU standards. I don't think gravy or trains came into the decision."
Correct..in fact that's the same agency that was based in london for many years but moved to europe because of brexit with the loss of almost 1000 highly paid jobs and thousands of supporting jobs. that damn pig. |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"Major argument going on in Brussels right now, Germany has been allocated far more vaccines where Poland, Czech Republic and Belgium don’t receive any:
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/germany-secures-bigger-share-of-covid-vaccines-than-other-eu-members-596z6tz0v?shareToken=2038c9ce2a9c7735c3ccfa110b1fe2cd
What a ridiculous dispute to be going on.thank god we are not in the EU more vacinations here so far than whole of the EU.
Its mad how that clown trots out a line and is recited ad nauseam by his followers.
He didnt mention we got the vaccine weeks before the eu
He also didnt mention Israel's programme puts ours to shame."
Of course it does they only have 8.8 million people the eu is so slow approving a vaccine of course we are ahead. |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"Seems that Germany broke a "legally binding" agreement not to purchase extra supplies outside of the EU agreement on vaccine procurement.
They may have another deal in the background for more supplies with another supplier.
There are also political machinations going on in Germany, with the speed of their programme.
Just a question.
During the transition period were we legally bound by that agreement? If so we must bought a lot vaccines last week to be able to be handing them out in their millions. Denmark must be at it too. They’re handed out more than us.
Everything I have read on it says the UK opted out of it so not legally bound at all. I am assuming this was possible as we had legally left before it happened but that is a guess
Turns out we were free to do as we like as were “all” other EU governments.
From the institute of government talking about the U.K. clearing the vaccines for use earlier.
“That said, none of these successes can be chalked up to Brexit. As the chief executive of the MHRA swiftly pointed out, Mr Hancock was wrong to say that the UK could approve the vaccine early because it was no longer subject to EU rules. The MHRA’s decision was taken in accordance with the relevant EU legislation, which allows member states to grant temporary authorisation for a medicinal product in response to the spread of infectious diseases (among others). [1] This legislation still applies to the UK until the end of the transition period. Any EU member state could have used the same provision of the legislation to approve the vaccine. They decided not to for political and technical reasons, not legal ones.
Similarly, the member states were in no way obliged to take part in the EU’s joint vaccine procurement scheme. The EU has very limited competences for public health under its founding treaties: it can take action only to “support, coordinate or supplement the actions of the Member States”. The EU member states in this case voluntarily decided to opt into the joint procurement scheme. If one or more of them had decided to follow the UK’s path and procure its own vaccines, no one would have stopped them.”
So not a Brexit win just a good timely buy. Like Denmark!,
Hancock only had to keep quiet and take a pat on the back for doing well but he brings in Brexit and makes himself look at tit again.. "Political reasons" there you go fuck the people who are going to die because they want to keep the political integrity of the eu.This is exactly why people voted to get out, they are not thinking of the people just maintaining their gravy train.
The actual reason was the European Medicines Agency thought it prudent to make sure that the quality, effectiveness and safety is guaranteed and matches EU standards. I don't think gravy or trains came into the decision.
Correct..in fact that's the same agency that was based in london for many years but moved to europe because of brexit with the loss of almost 1000 highly paid jobs and thousands of supporting jobs. that damn pig."
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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago
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"Seems that Germany broke a "legally binding" agreement not to purchase extra supplies outside of the EU agreement on vaccine procurement.
They may have another deal in the background for more supplies with another supplier.
There are also political machinations going on in Germany, with the speed of their programme.
Just a question.
During the transition period were we legally bound by that agreement? If so we must bought a lot vaccines last week to be able to be handing them out in their millions. Denmark must be at it too. They’re handed out more than us.
Everything I have read on it says the UK opted out of it so not legally bound at all. I am assuming this was possible as we had legally left before it happened but that is a guess
Turns out we were free to do as we like as were “all” other EU governments.
From the institute of government talking about the U.K. clearing the vaccines for use earlier.
“That said, none of these successes can be chalked up to Brexit. As the chief executive of the MHRA swiftly pointed out, Mr Hancock was wrong to say that the UK could approve the vaccine early because it was no longer subject to EU rules. The MHRA’s decision was taken in accordance with the relevant EU legislation, which allows member states to grant temporary authorisation for a medicinal product in response to the spread of infectious diseases (among others). [1] This legislation still applies to the UK until the end of the transition period. Any EU member state could have used the same provision of the legislation to approve the vaccine. They decided not to for political and technical reasons, not legal ones.
Similarly, the member states were in no way obliged to take part in the EU’s joint vaccine procurement scheme. The EU has very limited competences for public health under its founding treaties: it can take action only to “support, coordinate or supplement the actions of the Member States”. The EU member states in this case voluntarily decided to opt into the joint procurement scheme. If one or more of them had decided to follow the UK’s path and procure its own vaccines, no one would have stopped them.”
So not a Brexit win just a good timely buy. Like Denmark!,
Hancock only had to keep quiet and take a pat on the back for doing well but he brings in Brexit and makes himself look at tit again.. "Political reasons" there you go fuck the people who are going to die because they want to keep the political integrity of the eu.This is exactly why people voted to get out, they are not thinking of the people just maintaining their gravy train.
Each government did as they pleased. Nothing to blame the EU for. The EU blatantly didn’t dictate as they couldn’t they only offered support.
Remember some smaller and poorer countries would have very little chance of fighting alone to get the vaccine so actually it was us and Denmark saying fuck you lot and we don’t care if more of you you die. It’s every man for himself.
Let’s hope the government don’t decide to follow that mantra with the NHS. Fuck you if you can’t afford private health care you poor unemployed tosser. I’m alright Jack.
. Why would they ? still buying into the left wing claptrap i see.Yeah im sure all 27 countries governments said a big fuck you to their citizens without any eu influence. "
Costa the fact is the NHS is awash with cash but badly run. Sooner or later one government is going to bite the bullet and call a halt to the money pit. To do that they will privatise various parts of the service with cost savings as part of the deal. I personally agree they need to sort the money pit out so not left wing crap at all. But to cut the money they need to cut then private charges will inevitably increase a cross the NHS. Younger referred to a private hospital today for nhs treatment. It won’t be long before you will be asked to pay or wait.
I’m sure the smaller countries asked for help and got it. Not from us though eh!
The link above showed a lot of European countries vaccinating at the same rate so it must be organised and shared evenly to a point.
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"Seems that Germany broke a "legally binding" agreement not to purchase extra supplies outside of the EU agreement on vaccine procurement.
They may have another deal in the background for more supplies with another supplier.
There are also political machinations going on in Germany, with the speed of their programme.
Just a question.
During the transition period were we legally bound by that agreement? If so we must bought a lot vaccines last week to be able to be handing them out in their millions. Denmark must be at it too. They’re handed out more than us.
Everything I have read on it says the UK opted out of it so not legally bound at all. I am assuming this was possible as we had legally left before it happened but that is a guess
Turns out we were free to do as we like as were “all” other EU governments.
From the institute of government talking about the U.K. clearing the vaccines for use earlier.
“That said, none of these successes can be chalked up to Brexit. As the chief executive of the MHRA swiftly pointed out, Mr Hancock was wrong to say that the UK could approve the vaccine early because it was no longer subject to EU rules. The MHRA’s decision was taken in accordance with the relevant EU legislation, which allows member states to grant temporary authorisation for a medicinal product in response to the spread of infectious diseases (among others). [1] This legislation still applies to the UK until the end of the transition period. Any EU member state could have used the same provision of the legislation to approve the vaccine. They decided not to for political and technical reasons, not legal ones.
Similarly, the member states were in no way obliged to take part in the EU’s joint vaccine procurement scheme. The EU has very limited competences for public health under its founding treaties: it can take action only to “support, coordinate or supplement the actions of the Member States”. The EU member states in this case voluntarily decided to opt into the joint procurement scheme. If one or more of them had decided to follow the UK’s path and procure its own vaccines, no one would have stopped them.”
So not a Brexit win just a good timely buy. Like Denmark!,
Hancock only had to keep quiet and take a pat on the back for doing well but he brings in Brexit and makes himself look at tit again.. "Political reasons" there you go fuck the people who are going to die because they want to keep the political integrity of the eu.This is exactly why people voted to get out, they are not thinking of the people just maintaining their gravy train.
The actual reason was the European Medicines Agency thought it prudent to make sure that the quality, effectiveness and safety is guaranteed and matches EU standards. I don't think gravy or trains came into the decision.
Correct..in fact that's the same agency that was based in london for many years but moved to europe because of brexit with the loss of almost 1000 highly paid jobs and thousands of supporting jobs. that damn pig.nice one is it catching on yet? "
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"Major argument going on in Brussels right now, Germany has been allocated far more vaccines where Poland, Czech Republic and Belgium don’t receive any:
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/germany-secures-bigger-share-of-covid-vaccines-than-other-eu-members-596z6tz0v?shareToken=2038c9ce2a9c7735c3ccfa110b1fe2cd
What a ridiculous dispute to be going on.thank god we are not in the EU more vacinations here so far than whole of the EU.
Its mad how that clown trots out a line and is recited ad nauseam by his followers.
He didnt mention we got the vaccine weeks before the eu
He also didnt mention Israel's programme puts ours to shame.Of course it does they only have 8.8 million people the eu is so slow approving a vaccine of course we are ahead."
Right.
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"Seems that Germany broke a "legally binding" agreement not to purchase extra supplies outside of the EU agreement on vaccine procurement.
They may have another deal in the background for more supplies with another supplier.
There are also political machinations going on in Germany, with the speed of their programme.
Just a question.
During the transition period were we legally bound by that agreement? If so we must bought a lot vaccines last week to be able to be handing them out in their millions. Denmark must be at it too. They’re handed out more than us.
Everything I have read on it says the UK opted out of it so not legally bound at all. I am assuming this was possible as we had legally left before it happened but that is a guess
Turns out we were free to do as we like as were “all” other EU governments.
From the institute of government talking about the U.K. clearing the vaccines for use earlier.
“That said, none of these successes can be chalked up to Brexit. As the chief executive of the MHRA swiftly pointed out, Mr Hancock was wrong to say that the UK could approve the vaccine early because it was no longer subject to EU rules. The MHRA’s decision was taken in accordance with the relevant EU legislation, which allows member states to grant temporary authorisation for a medicinal product in response to the spread of infectious diseases (among others). [1] This legislation still applies to the UK until the end of the transition period. Any EU member state could have used the same provision of the legislation to approve the vaccine. They decided not to for political and technical reasons, not legal ones.
Similarly, the member states were in no way obliged to take part in the EU’s joint vaccine procurement scheme. The EU has very limited competences for public health under its founding treaties: it can take action only to “support, coordinate or supplement the actions of the Member States”. The EU member states in this case voluntarily decided to opt into the joint procurement scheme. If one or more of them had decided to follow the UK’s path and procure its own vaccines, no one would have stopped them.”
So not a Brexit win just a good timely buy. Like Denmark!,
Hancock only had to keep quiet and take a pat on the back for doing well but he brings in Brexit and makes himself look at tit again.. "Political reasons" there you go fuck the people who are going to die because they want to keep the political integrity of the eu.This is exactly why people voted to get out, they are not thinking of the people just maintaining their gravy train.
The actual reason was the European Medicines Agency thought it prudent to make sure that the quality, effectiveness and safety is guaranteed and matches EU standards. I don't think gravy or trains came into the decision.
Correct..in fact that's the same agency that was based in london for many years but moved to europe because of brexit with the loss of almost 1000 highly paid jobs and thousands of supporting jobs. that damn pig.nice one is it catching on yet?
Another year or two "
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over a year ago
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"Major argument going on in Brussels right now, Germany has been allocated far more vaccines where Poland, Czech Republic and Belgium don’t receive any:
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/germany-secures-bigger-share-of-covid-vaccines-than-other-eu-members-596z6tz0v?shareToken=2038c9ce2a9c7735c3ccfa110b1fe2cd
What a ridiculous dispute to be going on.thank god we are not in the EU more vacinations here so far than whole of the EU.
Its mad how that clown trots out a line and is recited ad nauseam by his followers.
He didnt mention we got the vaccine weeks before the eu
He also didnt mention Israel's programme puts ours to shame.Of course it does they only have 8.8 million people the eu is so slow approving a vaccine of course we are ahead.
Right.
And every eu country has a big population than us?"
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"Seems that Germany broke a "legally binding" agreement not to purchase extra supplies outside of the EU agreement on vaccine procurement.
They may have another deal in the background for more supplies with another supplier.
There are also political machinations going on in Germany, with the speed of their programme.
Just a question.
During the transition period were we legally bound by that agreement? If so we must bought a lot vaccines last week to be able to be handing them out in their millions. Denmark must be at it too. They’re handed out more than us.
Everything I have read on it says the UK opted out of it so not legally bound at all. I am assuming this was possible as we had legally left before it happened but that is a guess
Turns out we were free to do as we like as were “all” other EU governments.
From the institute of government talking about the U.K. clearing the vaccines for use earlier.
“That said, none of these successes can be chalked up to Brexit. As the chief executive of the MHRA swiftly pointed out, Mr Hancock was wrong to say that the UK could approve the vaccine early because it was no longer subject to EU rules. The MHRA’s decision was taken in accordance with the relevant EU legislation, which allows member states to grant temporary authorisation for a medicinal product in response to the spread of infectious diseases (among others). [1] This legislation still applies to the UK until the end of the transition period. Any EU member state could have used the same provision of the legislation to approve the vaccine. They decided not to for political and technical reasons, not legal ones.
Similarly, the member states were in no way obliged to take part in the EU’s joint vaccine procurement scheme. The EU has very limited competences for public health under its founding treaties: it can take action only to “support, coordinate or supplement the actions of the Member States”. The EU member states in this case voluntarily decided to opt into the joint procurement scheme. If one or more of them had decided to follow the UK’s path and procure its own vaccines, no one would have stopped them.”
So not a Brexit win just a good timely buy. Like Denmark!,
Hancock only had to keep quiet and take a pat on the back for doing well but he brings in Brexit and makes himself look at tit again.. "Political reasons" there you go fuck the people who are going to die because they want to keep the political integrity of the eu.This is exactly why people voted to get out, they are not thinking of the people just maintaining their gravy train.
The actual reason was the European Medicines Agency thought it prudent to make sure that the quality, effectiveness and safety is guaranteed and matches EU standards. I don't think gravy or trains came into the decision.
Correct..in fact that's the same agency that was based in london for many years but moved to europe because of brexit with the loss of almost 1000 highly paid jobs and thousands of supporting jobs. that damn pig.nice one is it catching on yet?
Another year or two you will have a different profile by then so you wont get the credit. "
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"Seems that Germany broke a "legally binding" agreement not to purchase extra supplies outside of the EU agreement on vaccine procurement.
They may have another deal in the background for more supplies with another supplier.
There are also political machinations going on in Germany, with the speed of their programme.
Just a question.
During the transition period were we legally bound by that agreement? If so we must bought a lot vaccines last week to be able to be handing them out in their millions. Denmark must be at it too. They’re handed out more than us.
Everything I have read on it says the UK opted out of it so not legally bound at all. I am assuming this was possible as we had legally left before it happened but that is a guess
Turns out we were free to do as we like as were “all” other EU governments.
From the institute of government talking about the U.K. clearing the vaccines for use earlier.
“That said, none of these successes can be chalked up to Brexit. As the chief executive of the MHRA swiftly pointed out, Mr Hancock was wrong to say that the UK could approve the vaccine early because it was no longer subject to EU rules. The MHRA’s decision was taken in accordance with the relevant EU legislation, which allows member states to grant temporary authorisation for a medicinal product in response to the spread of infectious diseases (among others). [1] This legislation still applies to the UK until the end of the transition period. Any EU member state could have used the same provision of the legislation to approve the vaccine. They decided not to for political and technical reasons, not legal ones.
Similarly, the member states were in no way obliged to take part in the EU’s joint vaccine procurement scheme. The EU has very limited competences for public health under its founding treaties: it can take action only to “support, coordinate or supplement the actions of the Member States”. The EU member states in this case voluntarily decided to opt into the joint procurement scheme. If one or more of them had decided to follow the UK’s path and procure its own vaccines, no one would have stopped them.”
So not a Brexit win just a good timely buy. Like Denmark!,
Hancock only had to keep quiet and take a pat on the back for doing well but he brings in Brexit and makes himself look at tit again.. "Political reasons" there you go fuck the people who are going to die because they want to keep the political integrity of the eu.This is exactly why people voted to get out, they are not thinking of the people just maintaining their gravy train.
The actual reason was the European Medicines Agency thought it prudent to make sure that the quality, effectiveness and safety is guaranteed and matches EU standards. I don't think gravy or trains came into the decision.
Correct..in fact that's the same agency that was based in london for many years but moved to europe because of brexit with the loss of almost 1000 highly paid jobs and thousands of supporting jobs. that damn pig.nice one is it catching on yet?
Another year or two you will have a different profile by then so you wont get the credit.
Why would I change profiles? "
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"Seems that Germany broke a "legally binding" agreement not to purchase extra supplies outside of the EU agreement on vaccine procurement.
They may have another deal in the background for more supplies with another supplier.
There are also political machinations going on in Germany, with the speed of their programme.
Just a question.
During the transition period were we legally bound by that agreement? If so we must bought a lot vaccines last week to be able to be handing them out in their millions. Denmark must be at it too. They’re handed out more than us.
Everything I have read on it says the UK opted out of it so not legally bound at all. I am assuming this was possible as we had legally left before it happened but that is a guess
Turns out we were free to do as we like as were “all” other EU governments.
From the institute of government talking about the U.K. clearing the vaccines for use earlier.
“That said, none of these successes can be chalked up to Brexit. As the chief executive of the MHRA swiftly pointed out, Mr Hancock was wrong to say that the UK could approve the vaccine early because it was no longer subject to EU rules. The MHRA’s decision was taken in accordance with the relevant EU legislation, which allows member states to grant temporary authorisation for a medicinal product in response to the spread of infectious diseases (among others). [1] This legislation still applies to the UK until the end of the transition period. Any EU member state could have used the same provision of the legislation to approve the vaccine. They decided not to for political and technical reasons, not legal ones.
Similarly, the member states were in no way obliged to take part in the EU’s joint vaccine procurement scheme. The EU has very limited competences for public health under its founding treaties: it can take action only to “support, coordinate or supplement the actions of the Member States”. The EU member states in this case voluntarily decided to opt into the joint procurement scheme. If one or more of them had decided to follow the UK’s path and procure its own vaccines, no one would have stopped them.”
So not a Brexit win just a good timely buy. Like Denmark!,
Hancock only had to keep quiet and take a pat on the back for doing well but he brings in Brexit and makes himself look at tit again.. "Political reasons" there you go fuck the people who are going to die because they want to keep the political integrity of the eu.This is exactly why people voted to get out, they are not thinking of the people just maintaining their gravy train.
The actual reason was the European Medicines Agency thought it prudent to make sure that the quality, effectiveness and safety is guaranteed and matches EU standards. I don't think gravy or trains came into the decision.
Correct..in fact that's the same agency that was based in london for many years but moved to europe because of brexit with the loss of almost 1000 highly paid jobs and thousands of supporting jobs. that damn pig.nice one is it catching on yet?
Another year or two you will have a different profile by then so you wont get the credit.
Why would I change profiles? "
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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago
Derry |
"Seems that Germany broke a "legally binding" agreement not to purchase extra supplies outside of the EU agreement on vaccine procurement.
They may have another deal in the background for more supplies with another supplier.
There are also political machinations going on in Germany, with the speed of their programme.
Just a question.
During the transition period were we legally bound by that agreement? If so we must bought a lot vaccines last week to be able to be handing them out in their millions. Denmark must be at it too. They’re handed out more than us.
Everything I have read on it says the UK opted out of it so not legally bound at all. I am assuming this was possible as we had legally left before it happened but that is a guess
Turns out we were free to do as we like as were “all” other EU governments.
From the institute of government talking about the U.K. clearing the vaccines for use earlier.
“That said, none of these successes can be chalked up to Brexit. As the chief executive of the MHRA swiftly pointed out, Mr Hancock was wrong to say that the UK could approve the vaccine early because it was no longer subject to EU rules. The MHRA’s decision was taken in accordance with the relevant EU legislation, which allows member states to grant temporary authorisation for a medicinal product in response to the spread of infectious diseases (among others). [1] This legislation still applies to the UK until the end of the transition period. Any EU member state could have used the same provision of the legislation to approve the vaccine. They decided not to for political and technical reasons, not legal ones.
Similarly, the member states were in no way obliged to take part in the EU’s joint vaccine procurement scheme. The EU has very limited competences for public health under its founding treaties: it can take action only to “support, coordinate or supplement the actions of the Member States”. The EU member states in this case voluntarily decided to opt into the joint procurement scheme. If one or more of them had decided to follow the UK’s path and procure its own vaccines, no one would have stopped them.”
So not a Brexit win just a good timely buy. Like Denmark!,
Hancock only had to keep quiet and take a pat on the back for doing well but he brings in Brexit and makes himself look at tit again.. "Political reasons" there you go fuck the people who are going to die because they want to keep the political integrity of the eu.This is exactly why people voted to get out, they are not thinking of the people just maintaining their gravy train.
The actual reason was the European Medicines Agency thought it prudent to make sure that the quality, effectiveness and safety is guaranteed and matches EU standards. I don't think gravy or trains came into the decision.
Correct..in fact that's the same agency that was based in london for many years but moved to europe because of brexit with the loss of almost 1000 highly paid jobs and thousands of supporting jobs. that damn pig.nice one is it catching on yet?
Another year or two you will have a different profile by then so you wont get the credit. "
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"Seems that Germany broke a "legally binding" agreement not to purchase extra supplies outside of the EU agreement on vaccine procurement.
They may have another deal in the background for more supplies with another supplier.
There are also political machinations going on in Germany, with the speed of their programme.
Just a question.
During the transition period were we legally bound by that agreement? If so we must bought a lot vaccines last week to be able to be handing them out in their millions. Denmark must be at it too. They’re handed out more than us.
Everything I have read on it says the UK opted out of it so not legally bound at all. I am assuming this was possible as we had legally left before it happened but that is a guess
Turns out we were free to do as we like as were “all” other EU governments.
From the institute of government talking about the U.K. clearing the vaccines for use earlier.
“That said, none of these successes can be chalked up to Brexit. As the chief executive of the MHRA swiftly pointed out, Mr Hancock was wrong to say that the UK could approve the vaccine early because it was no longer subject to EU rules. The MHRA’s decision was taken in accordance with the relevant EU legislation, which allows member states to grant temporary authorisation for a medicinal product in response to the spread of infectious diseases (among others). [1] This legislation still applies to the UK until the end of the transition period. Any EU member state could have used the same provision of the legislation to approve the vaccine. They decided not to for political and technical reasons, not legal ones.
Similarly, the member states were in no way obliged to take part in the EU’s joint vaccine procurement scheme. The EU has very limited competences for public health under its founding treaties: it can take action only to “support, coordinate or supplement the actions of the Member States”. The EU member states in this case voluntarily decided to opt into the joint procurement scheme. If one or more of them had decided to follow the UK’s path and procure its own vaccines, no one would have stopped them.”
So not a Brexit win just a good timely buy. Like Denmark!,
Hancock only had to keep quiet and take a pat on the back for doing well but he brings in Brexit and makes himself look at tit again.. "Political reasons" there you go fuck the people who are going to die because they want to keep the political integrity of the eu.This is exactly why people voted to get out, they are not thinking of the people just maintaining their gravy train.
The actual reason was the European Medicines Agency thought it prudent to make sure that the quality, effectiveness and safety is guaranteed and matches EU standards. I don't think gravy or trains came into the decision.
Correct..in fact that's the same agency that was based in london for many years but moved to europe because of brexit with the loss of almost 1000 highly paid jobs and thousands of supporting jobs. that damn pig.nice one is it catching on yet?
Another year or two you will have a different profile by then so you wont get the credit.
Why would I change profiles?
No reply ? Cat got your tongue.."
you know, i know no need to go over this again. |
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over a year ago
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"Seems that Germany broke a "legally binding" agreement not to purchase extra supplies outside of the EU agreement on vaccine procurement.
They may have another deal in the background for more supplies with another supplier.
There are also political machinations going on in Germany, with the speed of their programme.
Just a question.
During the transition period were we legally bound by that agreement? If so we must bought a lot vaccines last week to be able to be handing them out in their millions. Denmark must be at it too. They’re handed out more than us.
Everything I have read on it says the UK opted out of it so not legally bound at all. I am assuming this was possible as we had legally left before it happened but that is a guess
Turns out we were free to do as we like as were “all” other EU governments.
From the institute of government talking about the U.K. clearing the vaccines for use earlier.
“That said, none of these successes can be chalked up to Brexit. As the chief executive of the MHRA swiftly pointed out, Mr Hancock was wrong to say that the UK could approve the vaccine early because it was no longer subject to EU rules. The MHRA’s decision was taken in accordance with the relevant EU legislation, which allows member states to grant temporary authorisation for a medicinal product in response to the spread of infectious diseases (among others). [1] This legislation still applies to the UK until the end of the transition period. Any EU member state could have used the same provision of the legislation to approve the vaccine. They decided not to for political and technical reasons, not legal ones.
Similarly, the member states were in no way obliged to take part in the EU’s joint vaccine procurement scheme. The EU has very limited competences for public health under its founding treaties: it can take action only to “support, coordinate or supplement the actions of the Member States”. The EU member states in this case voluntarily decided to opt into the joint procurement scheme. If one or more of them had decided to follow the UK’s path and procure its own vaccines, no one would have stopped them.”
So not a Brexit win just a good timely buy. Like Denmark!,
Hancock only had to keep quiet and take a pat on the back for doing well but he brings in Brexit and makes himself look at tit again.. "Political reasons" there you go fuck the people who are going to die because they want to keep the political integrity of the eu.This is exactly why people voted to get out, they are not thinking of the people just maintaining their gravy train.
The actual reason was the European Medicines Agency thought it prudent to make sure that the quality, effectiveness and safety is guaranteed and matches EU standards. I don't think gravy or trains came into the decision.
Correct..in fact that's the same agency that was based in london for many years but moved to europe because of brexit with the loss of almost 1000 highly paid jobs and thousands of supporting jobs. that damn pig.nice one is it catching on yet?
Another year or two you will have a different profile by then so you wont get the credit.
Why would I change profiles?
No reply ? Cat got your tongue..you know, i know no need to go over this again. "
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"At least now theres a vaccine for covid, brexit will still rumble on like a disease we cant shake off or find a cure for .
True, I can’t understand why the Brexit voters aren’t happy with the outcome and keep harping on about the EU? As I have stated earlier, I doubt anyone in the EU gives a shit about the UK "
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
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EU member countries could not approve a vaccine or buy supplies, because back in June, they decided unilaterally to stick together and operate as a bloc.
UvdL said....
"we have all agreed that there will be no parallel negotiations or parallel contracts"
"EU negotiations are the only binding legal framework when it comes to vaccine purchases"
Then we find out that Germany has gone against that, by placing additional orders with Pfizer BNT and Curevac, another German pharma company.
There are now accusations that the French vaccine rollout is slow, as the French goverment had hoped for their own vaccine, developed by French pharma Sanofi, would be available. Unfortunately, this
vaccine could be months away.
Reading the European press, there does seem to be a lot of finger pointing going on with our European friends.
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"EU member countries could not approve a vaccine or buy supplies, because back in June, they decided unilaterally to stick together and operate as a bloc.
UvdL said....
"we have all agreed that there will be no parallel negotiations or parallel contracts"
"EU negotiations are the only binding legal framework when it comes to vaccine purchases"
Then we find out that Germany has gone against that, by placing additional orders with Pfizer BNT and Curevac, another German pharma company.
There are now accusations that the French vaccine rollout is slow, as the French goverment had hoped for their own vaccine, developed by French pharma Sanofi, would be available. Unfortunately, this
vaccine could be months away.
Reading the European press, there does seem to be a lot of finger pointing going on with our European friends.
"
Yep think we dodged a bullet there, got out just in time. Some of Europe’s most vulnerable are going to pay for this dispute with their lives. |
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"EU member countries could not approve a vaccine or buy supplies, because back in June, they decided unilaterally to stick together and operate as a bloc.
UvdL said....
"we have all agreed that there will be no parallel negotiations or parallel contracts"
"EU negotiations are the only binding legal framework when it comes to vaccine purchases"
Then we find out that Germany has gone against that, by placing additional orders with Pfizer BNT and Curevac, another German pharma company.
There are now accusations that the French vaccine rollout is slow, as the French goverment had hoped for their own vaccine, developed by French pharma Sanofi, would be available. Unfortunately, this
vaccine could be months away.
Reading the European press, there does seem to be a lot of finger pointing going on with our European friends.
Yep think we dodged a bullet there, got out just in time. Some of Europe’s most vulnerable are going to pay for this dispute with their lives."
Just to clarify, has Germany taken ‘all Europe’s vaccines’ ? |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"EU member countries could not approve a vaccine or buy supplies, because back in June, they decided unilaterally to stick together and operate as a bloc.
UvdL said....
"we have all agreed that there will be no parallel negotiations or parallel contracts"
"EU negotiations are the only binding legal framework when it comes to vaccine purchases"
Then we find out that Germany has gone against that, by placing additional orders with Pfizer BNT and Curevac, another German pharma company.
There are now accusations that the French vaccine rollout is slow, as the French goverment had hoped for their own vaccine, developed by French pharma Sanofi, would be available. Unfortunately, this
vaccine could be months away.
Reading the European press, there does seem to be a lot of finger pointing going on with our European friends.
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As usual the eu putting politics before people.  |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
Grantham |
"EU member countries could not approve a vaccine or buy supplies, because back in June, they decided unilaterally to stick together and operate as a bloc.
UvdL said....
"we have all agreed that there will be no parallel negotiations or parallel contracts"
"EU negotiations are the only binding legal framework when it comes to vaccine purchases"
Then we find out that Germany has gone against that, by placing additional orders with Pfizer BNT and Curevac, another German pharma company.
There are now accusations that the French vaccine rollout is slow, as the French goverment had hoped for their own vaccine, developed by French pharma Sanofi, would be available. Unfortunately, this
vaccine could be months away.
Reading the European press, there does seem to be a lot of finger pointing going on with our European friends.
Yep think we dodged a bullet there, got out just in time. Some of Europe’s most vulnerable are going to pay for this dispute with their lives.
Just to clarify, has Germany taken ‘all Europe’s vaccines’ ? "
No, they got their allocated share as per the EU quota.
They were then also able to buy spare vaccines, returned to the EU central pot, from other members that didn't take up their allocation. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"EU member countries could not approve a vaccine or buy supplies, because back in June, they decided unilaterally to stick together and operate as a bloc.
UvdL said....
"we have all agreed that there will be no parallel negotiations or parallel contracts"
"EU negotiations are the only binding legal framework when it comes to vaccine purchases"
Then we find out that Germany has gone against that, by placing additional orders with Pfizer BNT and Curevac, another German pharma company.
There are now accusations that the French vaccine rollout is slow, as the French goverment had hoped for their own vaccine, developed by French pharma Sanofi, would be available. Unfortunately, this
vaccine could be months away.
Reading the European press, there does seem to be a lot of finger pointing going on with our European friends.
Yep think we dodged a bullet there, got out just in time. Some of Europe’s most vulnerable are going to pay for this dispute with their lives.
Just to clarify, has Germany taken ‘all Europe’s vaccines’ ?
No, they got their allocated share as per the EU quota.
They were then also able to buy spare vaccines, returned to the EU central pot, from other members that didn't take up their allocation. "
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By (user no longer on site)
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"EU member countries could not approve a vaccine or buy supplies, because back in June, they decided unilaterally to stick together and operate as a bloc.
UvdL said....
"we have all agreed that there will be no parallel negotiations or parallel contracts"
"EU negotiations are the only binding legal framework when it comes to vaccine purchases"
Then we find out that Germany has gone against that, by placing additional orders with Pfizer BNT and Curevac, another German pharma company.
There are now accusations that the French vaccine rollout is slow, as the French goverment had hoped for their own vaccine, developed by French pharma Sanofi, would be available. Unfortunately, this
vaccine could be months away.
Reading the European press, there does seem to be a lot of finger pointing going on with our European friends.
Yep think we dodged a bullet there, got out just in time. Some of Europe’s most vulnerable are going to pay for this dispute with their lives.
Just to clarify, has Germany taken ‘all Europe’s vaccines’ ?
No, they got their allocated share as per the EU quota.
They were then also able to buy spare vaccines, returned to the EU central pot, from other members that didn't take up their allocation.
Ah right, so the OPs headline is incorrect . "
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By *andy 1Couple
over a year ago
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"Why are brexiteers arsed?
Surely all your dreams have come true.
We have our freedom back.. we have took back control
Because they can’t let go, it wasn’t just about leaving the EU, they will only be truly fulfilled if the EU implodes. It’s a like a bad break up with an ex, you never want to see them be happy and content without you . I doubt anyone in the EU gives a shiny shit about the UK anymore
How many threads has their been in the last few days?
Surely they should be singing the praises of the likes of Farage and nuttall who have ushered in this brave new world full of hope and optimism?
I know, some people will never be content. I would have thought the glory of Brexit and the endless list of benefits would have been enough, hopefully they will find happiness in the future
They must still be waiting on those magic beans boris promised.
Maybe being in the EU wasn’t the real reason why they were so unhappy? only unhappy ppl I see on here is you and Lionel "
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By (user no longer on site)
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"EU member countries could not approve a vaccine or buy supplies, because back in June, they decided unilaterally to stick together and operate as a bloc.
UvdL said....
"we have all agreed that there will be no parallel negotiations or parallel contracts"
"EU negotiations are the only binding legal framework when it comes to vaccine purchases"
Then we find out that Germany has gone against that, by placing additional orders with Pfizer BNT and Curevac, another German pharma company.
There are now accusations that the French vaccine rollout is slow, as the French goverment had hoped for their own vaccine, developed by French pharma Sanofi, would be available. Unfortunately, this
vaccine could be months away.
Reading the European press, there does seem to be a lot of finger pointing going on with our European friends.
Yep think we dodged a bullet there, got out just in time. Some of Europe’s most vulnerable are going to pay for this dispute with their lives.
Just to clarify, has Germany taken ‘all Europe’s vaccines’ ?
No, they got their allocated share as per the EU quota.
They were then also able to buy spare vaccines, returned to the EU central pot, from other members that didn't take up their allocation.
Ah right, so the OPs headline is incorrect .
Or as I call it the brexit waffle. "
Maybe it was an error or maybe it was misleading for a reason |
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"EU member countries could not approve a vaccine or buy supplies, because back in June, they decided unilaterally to stick together and operate as a bloc.
UvdL said....
"we have all agreed that there will be no parallel negotiations or parallel contracts"
"EU negotiations are the only binding legal framework when it comes to vaccine purchases"
Then we find out that Germany has gone against that, by placing additional orders with Pfizer BNT and Curevac, another German pharma company.
There are now accusations that the French vaccine rollout is slow, as the French goverment had hoped for their own vaccine, developed by French pharma Sanofi, would be available. Unfortunately, this
vaccine could be months away.
Reading the European press, there does seem to be a lot of finger pointing going on with our European friends.
Yep think we dodged a bullet there, got out just in time. Some of Europe’s most vulnerable are going to pay for this dispute with their lives.
Just to clarify, has Germany taken ‘all Europe’s vaccines’ ?
No, they got their allocated share as per the EU quota.
They were then also able to buy spare vaccines, returned to the EU central pot, from other members that didn't take up their allocation.
Ah right, so the OPs headline is incorrect .
Or as I call it the brexit waffle.
Maybe it was an error or maybe it was misleading for a reason "
I've given you the article if you're scared to read it because it will confront your prejudices just say so |
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over a year ago
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"EU member countries could not approve a vaccine or buy supplies, because back in June, they decided unilaterally to stick together and operate as a bloc.
UvdL said....
"we have all agreed that there will be no parallel negotiations or parallel contracts"
"EU negotiations are the only binding legal framework when it comes to vaccine purchases"
Then we find out that Germany has gone against that, by placing additional orders with Pfizer BNT and Curevac, another German pharma company.
There are now accusations that the French vaccine rollout is slow, as the French goverment had hoped for their own vaccine, developed by French pharma Sanofi, would be available. Unfortunately, this
vaccine could be months away.
Reading the European press, there does seem to be a lot of finger pointing going on with our European friends.
Yep think we dodged a bullet there, got out just in time. Some of Europe’s most vulnerable are going to pay for this dispute with their lives.
Just to clarify, has Germany taken ‘all Europe’s vaccines’ ?
No, they got their allocated share as per the EU quota.
They were then also able to buy spare vaccines, returned to the EU central pot, from other members that didn't take up their allocation.
Ah right, so the OPs headline is incorrect .
Or as I call it the brexit waffle.
Maybe it was an error or maybe it was misleading for a reason
I've given you the article if you're scared to read it because it will confront your prejudices just say so "
Keep repeating it in your head...brexit very good europe very bad and who knows some day u might even convince yourself and your own prejudices |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"EU member countries could not approve a vaccine or buy supplies, because back in June, they decided unilaterally to stick together and operate as a bloc.
UvdL said....
"we have all agreed that there will be no parallel negotiations or parallel contracts"
"EU negotiations are the only binding legal framework when it comes to vaccine purchases"
Then we find out that Germany has gone against that, by placing additional orders with Pfizer BNT and Curevac, another German pharma company.
There are now accusations that the French vaccine rollout is slow, as the French goverment had hoped for their own vaccine, developed by French pharma Sanofi, would be available. Unfortunately, this
vaccine could be months away.
Reading the European press, there does seem to be a lot of finger pointing going on with our European friends.
Yep think we dodged a bullet there, got out just in time. Some of Europe’s most vulnerable are going to pay for this dispute with their lives.
Just to clarify, has Germany taken ‘all Europe’s vaccines’ ?
No, they got their allocated share as per the EU quota.
They were then also able to buy spare vaccines, returned to the EU central pot, from other members that didn't take up their allocation.
Ah right, so the OPs headline is incorrect .
Or as I call it the brexit waffle.
Maybe it was an error or maybe it was misleading for a reason
I've given you the article if you're scared to read it because it will confront your prejudices just say so "
I have read the article, I can’t see the part where it states ‘Germany has taken all of Europe’s vaccines ‘ |
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"EU member countries could not approve a vaccine or buy supplies, because back in June, they decided unilaterally to stick together and operate as a bloc.
UvdL said....
"we have all agreed that there will be no parallel negotiations or parallel contracts"
"EU negotiations are the only binding legal framework when it comes to vaccine purchases"
Then we find out that Germany has gone against that, by placing additional orders with Pfizer BNT and Curevac, another German pharma company.
There are now accusations that the French vaccine rollout is slow, as the French goverment had hoped for their own vaccine, developed by French pharma Sanofi, would be available. Unfortunately, this
vaccine could be months away.
Reading the European press, there does seem to be a lot of finger pointing going on with our European friends.
Yep think we dodged a bullet there, got out just in time. Some of Europe’s most vulnerable are going to pay for this dispute with their lives.
Just to clarify, has Germany taken ‘all Europe’s vaccines’ ?
No, they got their allocated share as per the EU quota.
They were then also able to buy spare vaccines, returned to the EU central pot, from other members that didn't take up their allocation.
Ah right, so the OPs headline is incorrect .
Or as I call it the brexit waffle.
Maybe it was an error or maybe it was misleading for a reason
I've given you the article if you're scared to read it because it will confront your prejudices just say so
I have read the article, I can’t see the part where it states ‘Germany has taken all of Europe’s vaccines ‘ "
Maybe if you just put on the biasedview glasses all will become clear..
Sure I heard that Specsavers will be bringing out some rise tinted ones in a 1950's fashion style for when all the lovely brexit benefits of the land of milk and honey and the sunny uplands of mightily prospering becomes evident.. |
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"EU member countries could not approve a vaccine or buy supplies, because back in June, they decided unilaterally to stick together and operate as a bloc.
UvdL said....
"we have all agreed that there will be no parallel negotiations or parallel contracts"
"EU negotiations are the only binding legal framework when it comes to vaccine purchases"
Then we find out that Germany has gone against that, by placing additional orders with Pfizer BNT and Curevac, another German pharma company.
There are now accusations that the French vaccine rollout is slow, as the French goverment had hoped for their own vaccine, developed by French pharma Sanofi, would be available. Unfortunately, this
vaccine could be months away.
Reading the European press, there does seem to be a lot of finger pointing going on with our European friends.
Yep think we dodged a bullet there, got out just in time. Some of Europe’s most vulnerable are going to pay for this dispute with their lives.
Just to clarify, has Germany taken ‘all Europe’s vaccines’ ?
No, they got their allocated share as per the EU quota.
They were then also able to buy spare vaccines, returned to the EU central pot, from other members that didn't take up their allocation.
Ah right, so the OPs headline is incorrect .
Or as I call it the brexit waffle.
Maybe it was an error or maybe it was misleading for a reason
I've given you the article if you're scared to read it because it will confront your prejudices just say so
I have read the article, I can’t see the part where it states ‘Germany has taken all of Europe’s vaccines ‘
Maybe if you just put on the biasedview glasses all will become clear..
Sure I heard that Specsavers will be bringing out some rise tinted ones in a 1950's fashion style for when all the lovely brexit benefits of the land of milk and honey and the sunny uplands of mightily prospering becomes evident.."
Ha, obviously these glasses will be made in Britain? |
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"EU member countries could not approve a vaccine or buy supplies, because back in June, they decided unilaterally to stick together and operate as a bloc.
UvdL said....
"we have all agreed that there will be no parallel negotiations or parallel contracts"
"EU negotiations are the only binding legal framework when it comes to vaccine purchases"
Then we find out that Germany has gone against that, by placing additional orders with Pfizer BNT and Curevac, another German pharma company.
There are now accusations that the French vaccine rollout is slow, as the French goverment had hoped for their own vaccine, developed by French pharma Sanofi, would be available. Unfortunately, this
vaccine could be months away.
Reading the European press, there does seem to be a lot of finger pointing going on with our European friends.
Yep think we dodged a bullet there, got out just in time. Some of Europe’s most vulnerable are going to pay for this dispute with their lives.
Just to clarify, has Germany taken ‘all Europe’s vaccines’ ?
No, they got their allocated share as per the EU quota.
They were then also able to buy spare vaccines, returned to the EU central pot, from other members that didn't take up their allocation.
Ah right, so the OPs headline is incorrect .
Or as I call it the brexit waffle.
Maybe it was an error or maybe it was misleading for a reason
I've given you the article if you're scared to read it because it will confront your prejudices just say so
I have read the article, I can’t see the part where it states ‘Germany has taken all of Europe’s vaccines ‘
Maybe if you just put on the biasedview glasses all will become clear..
Sure I heard that Specsavers will be bringing out some rise tinted ones in a 1950's fashion style for when all the lovely brexit benefits of the land of milk and honey and the sunny uplands of mightily prospering becomes evident..
Ha, obviously these glasses will be made in Britain? "
No sorry..
They have to be made in the EU to facilitate selling them there without the need for tariffs..
Them's the rules our world beating experts agreed to..
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"EU member countries could not approve a vaccine or buy supplies, because back in June, they decided unilaterally to stick together and operate as a bloc.
UvdL said....
"we have all agreed that there will be no parallel negotiations or parallel contracts"
"EU negotiations are the only binding legal framework when it comes to vaccine purchases"
Then we find out that Germany has gone against that, by placing additional orders with Pfizer BNT and Curevac, another German pharma company.
There are now accusations that the French vaccine rollout is slow, as the French goverment had hoped for their own vaccine, developed by French pharma Sanofi, would be available. Unfortunately, this
vaccine could be months away.
Reading the European press, there does seem to be a lot of finger pointing going on with our European friends.
Yep think we dodged a bullet there, got out just in time. Some of Europe’s most vulnerable are going to pay for this dispute with their lives.
Just to clarify, has Germany taken ‘all Europe’s vaccines’ ?
No, they got their allocated share as per the EU quota.
They were then also able to buy spare vaccines, returned to the EU central pot, from other members that didn't take up their allocation.
Ah right, so the OPs headline is incorrect .
Or as I call it the brexit waffle.
Maybe it was an error or maybe it was misleading for a reason
I've given you the article if you're scared to read it because it will confront your prejudices just say so
I have read the article, I can’t see the part where it states ‘Germany has taken all of Europe’s vaccines ‘
Maybe if you just put on the biasedview glasses all will become clear..
Sure I heard that Specsavers will be bringing out some rise tinted ones in a 1950's fashion style for when all the lovely brexit benefits of the land of milk and honey and the sunny uplands of mightily prospering becomes evident..
Ha, obviously these glasses will be made in Britain?
No sorry..
They have to be made in the EU to facilitate selling them there without the need for tariffs..
Them's the rules our world beating experts agreed to..
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By *uietbloke67Man
over a year ago
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"Why are brexiteers arsed?
Surely all your dreams have come true.
We have our freedom back.. we have took back control
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«««Checking control I have now.
Nope still the same as 10 years ago....feck all |
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"Why are brexiteers arsed?
Surely all your dreams have come true.
We have our freedom back.. we have took back control
«««Checking control I have now.
Nope still the same as 10 years ago....feck all "
But we are free from eu tyranny! |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"Why are brexiteers arsed?
Surely all your dreams have come true.
We have our freedom back.. we have took back control
«««Checking control I have now.
Nope still the same as 10 years ago....feck all
But we are free from eu tyranny!"
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"EU member countries could not approve a vaccine or buy supplies, because back in June, they decided unilaterally to stick together and operate as a bloc.
UvdL said....
"we have all agreed that there will be no parallel negotiations or parallel contracts"
"EU negotiations are the only binding legal framework when it comes to vaccine purchases"
Then we find out that Germany has gone against that, by placing additional orders with Pfizer BNT and Curevac, another German pharma company.
There are now accusations that the French vaccine rollout is slow, as the French goverment had hoped for their own vaccine, developed by French pharma Sanofi, would be available. Unfortunately, this
vaccine could be months away.
Reading the European press, there does seem to be a lot of finger pointing going on with our European friends.
Yep think we dodged a bullet there, got out just in time. Some of Europe’s most vulnerable are going to pay for this dispute with their lives.
Just to clarify, has Germany taken ‘all Europe’s vaccines’ ?
No, they got their allocated share as per the EU quota.
They were then also able to buy spare vaccines, returned to the EU central pot, from other members that didn't take up their allocation.
Ah right, so the OPs headline is incorrect .
Or as I call it the brexit waffle.
Maybe it was an error or maybe it was misleading for a reason
I've given you the article if you're scared to read it because it will confront your prejudices just say so
I have read the article, I can’t see the part where it states ‘Germany has taken all of Europe’s vaccines ‘
Maybe if you just put on the biasedview glasses all will become clear..
Sure I heard that Specsavers will be bringing out some rise tinted ones in a 1950's fashion style for when all the lovely brexit benefits of the land of milk and honey and the sunny uplands of mightily prospering becomes evident..
Ha, obviously these glasses will be made in Britain?
No sorry..
They have to be made in the EU to facilitate selling them there without the need for tariffs..
Them's the rules our world beating experts agreed to..
Of course, that makes more sense "
It's kind of a shame really when you've got the opportunity to discuss and learn from knowledgeable people on this board that you just put them off contributing by continually repeating silly fallacies like tariffs between the UK and Europe when you know full well there isn't any.
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"EU member countries could not approve a vaccine or buy supplies, because back in June, they decided unilaterally to stick together and operate as a bloc.
UvdL said....
"we have all agreed that there will be no parallel negotiations or parallel contracts"
"EU negotiations are the only binding legal framework when it comes to vaccine purchases"
Then we find out that Germany has gone against that, by placing additional orders with Pfizer BNT and Curevac, another German pharma company.
There are now accusations that the French vaccine rollout is slow, as the French goverment had hoped for their own vaccine, developed by French pharma Sanofi, would be available. Unfortunately, this
vaccine could be months away.
Reading the European press, there does seem to be a lot of finger pointing going on with our European friends.
Yep think we dodged a bullet there, got out just in time. Some of Europe’s most vulnerable are going to pay for this dispute with their lives.
Just to clarify, has Germany taken ‘all Europe’s vaccines’ ?
No, they got their allocated share as per the EU quota.
They were then also able to buy spare vaccines, returned to the EU central pot, from other members that didn't take up their allocation.
Ah right, so the OPs headline is incorrect .
Or as I call it the brexit waffle.
Maybe it was an error or maybe it was misleading for a reason
I've given you the article if you're scared to read it because it will confront your prejudices just say so
I have read the article, I can’t see the part where it states ‘Germany has taken all of Europe’s vaccines ‘
Maybe if you just put on the biasedview glasses all will become clear..
Sure I heard that Specsavers will be bringing out some rise tinted ones in a 1950's fashion style for when all the lovely brexit benefits of the land of milk and honey and the sunny uplands of mightily prospering becomes evident..
Ha, obviously these glasses will be made in Britain?
No sorry..
They have to be made in the EU to facilitate selling them there without the need for tariffs..
Them's the rules our world beating experts agreed to..
Of course, that makes more sense
It's kind of a shame really when you've got the opportunity to discuss and learn from knowledgeable people on this board that you just put them off contributing by continually repeating silly fallacies like tariffs between the UK and Europe when you know full well there isn't any.
"
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"Fancy those people in the EU falling out with each other? "
I know, it’s just like the English the Welsh , Scottish and the Irish , we need harmony here before we start to criticise what happens in the EU?? |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
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"Fancy those people in the EU falling out with each other?
I know, it’s just like the English the Welsh , Scottish and the Irish , we need harmony here before we start to criticise what happens in the EU?? "
We should take our ball and . . . oh wait! |
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"Fancy those people in the EU falling out with each other?
I know, it’s just like the English the Welsh , Scottish and the Irish , we need harmony here before we start to criticise what happens in the EU??
We should take our ball and . . . oh wait!"
What ball? |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke |
"Fancy those people in the EU falling out with each other?
I know, it’s just like the English the Welsh , Scottish and the Irish , we need harmony here before we start to criticise what happens in the EU??
We should take our ball and . . . oh wait!
What ball? "
The Mirror-ball we are having a party. |
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"Fancy those people in the EU falling out with each other?
I know, it’s just like the English the Welsh , Scottish and the Irish , we need harmony here before we start to criticise what happens in the EU??
We should take our ball and . . . oh wait!
What ball?
The Mirror-ball we are having a party."
Who is? What are you celebrating? |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke |
I have been to a billion parties in my life and had such a good time. Afterwards I found out what they were for and realised I wouldn't have gone had I known beforehand . . .
Just what is it that you want to do?
We wanna be free
We wanna be free to do what we wanna do
And we wanna get loaded
And we wanna have a good time
That's what we're gonna do
(No way, baby, let's go!)
We're gonna have a good time
We're gonna have a party
Cue Lead guitar riff . . .
Loaded Primal Scream. |
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"I have been to a billion parties in my life and had such a good time. Afterwards I found out what they were for and realised I wouldn't have gone had I known beforehand . . .
Just what is it that you want to do?
We wanna be free
We wanna be free to do what we wanna do
And we wanna get loaded
And we wanna have a good time
That's what we're gonna do
(No way, baby, let's go!)
We're gonna have a good time
We're gonna have a party
Cue Lead guitar riff . . .
Loaded Primal Scream."
Copied from Wild Angels, good film
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