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"Truck drivers tell of long delays for checks at the eurotunnel as the trade barrier goes up between uk and eu, they are starting to feel the effects of brexit, how long do you think the waiting time will be and will there be enough of space for them to wait at calais? Roger arived in france at 2.30pm on tuesday with a truckload of hard cheese from somerset, it now will take some time for him to get to his destination. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jan/08/stuck-lorry-drivers-calais-effects-brexit-eurotunnel" “Just missing paperwork.” There is your answer . . . His company only had 4 years to get it right. | |||
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"But I thought brexit was going to reduce paperwork and red tape, or was that a lie? " That was never said. And remember MOST of the paperwork is set by the EU not the UK. And the UK have been banging on about the Access Permit (KAP) – being called the Brexit passport – which is issued electronically to trucks whose suppliers have to testify they have all their paperwork for the Channel crossing in order. And some companies still haven't done it | |||
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"Companies who have kept up to speed on the paperwork have kept going others have just thought it will be ok to just turn up and sort it on the day "In 9 days 18 Thousand correctly filled Electronic Passports have been filled out correctly and those trucks have gone through without delays. 700 have been turned away - and 150 fined for non-compliance. So by and large it's working. | |||
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"I'm no expert but considering that upto Christmas eve,we didn't know if we would have a deal or not,where this 4 years to prepare comes from." We already knew what the paperwork would involve either way. So all comapnies did know. Geezus My club even got one from DTI. Asking us whether we were prepared - twice. If you have driven on a motorway or stopped at a services in the last 4 years you will have seen it in 4 foot led lettering on every other above carriage way sign - Every toliet in every services had posters - every cafe had the light signs in . | |||
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"Meanwhile at the border they pretend doesn't exist https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-55586246 Didn't read? Food shortages and job loss warnings" and again . . . all about doing the paperwork . . . "After that they will have to comply with all the paperwork required to ship food in, or find suppliers on the island of Ireland or elsewhere in the EU". | |||
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"Meanwhile at the border they pretend doesn't exist https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-55586246 Didn't read? Food shortages and job loss warnings and again . . . all about doing the paperwork . . . "After that they will have to comply with all the paperwork required to ship food in, or find suppliers on the island of Ireland or elsewhere in the EU"." Paperwork and additional costs. | |||
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"Meanwhile at the border they pretend doesn't exist https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-55586246 Didn't read? Food shortages and job loss warnings and again . . . all about doing the paperwork . . . "After that they will have to comply with all the paperwork required to ship food in, or find suppliers on the island of Ireland or elsewhere in the EU"." Who was the guy with blonde hair who was filmed at a party telling the people of NI that they could throw their paperwork away if they voted for him in 2019? | |||
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"Meanwhile at the border they pretend doesn't exist https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-55586246 Didn't read? Food shortages and job loss warnings and again . . . all about doing the paperwork . . . "After that they will have to comply with all the paperwork required to ship food in, or find suppliers on the island of Ireland or elsewhere in the EU". Who was the guy with blonde hair who was filmed at a party telling the people of NI that they could throw their paperwork away if they voted for him in 2019? " Between UK and NI. | |||
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"Meanwhile at the border they pretend doesn't exist https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-55586246 Didn't read? Food shortages and job loss warnings and again . . . all about doing the paperwork . . . "After that they will have to comply with all the paperwork required to ship food in, or find suppliers on the island of Ireland or elsewhere in the EU". Who was the guy with blonde hair who was filmed at a party telling the people of NI that they could throw their paperwork away if they voted for him in 2019? " And then call him if they had any issues, that guy? Whatever happened to him? | |||
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"Meanwhile at the border they pretend doesn't exist https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-55586246 Didn't read? Food shortages and job loss warnings and again . . . all about doing the paperwork . . . "After that they will have to comply with all the paperwork required to ship food in, or find suppliers on the island of Ireland or elsewhere in the EU". Who was the guy with blonde hair who was filmed at a party telling the people of NI that they could throw their paperwork away if they voted for him in 2019? And then call him if they had any issues, that guy? Whatever happened to him?" I imagine he's busy on the phone dealing with those same "issues". | |||
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"Meanwhile at the border they pretend doesn't exist https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-55586246 Didn't read? Food shortages and job loss warnings and again . . . all about doing the paperwork . . . "After that they will have to comply with all the paperwork required to ship food in, or find suppliers on the island of Ireland or elsewhere in the EU". Who was the guy with blonde hair who was filmed at a party telling the people of NI that they could throw their paperwork away if they voted for him in 2019? And then call him if they had any issues, that guy? Whatever happened to him? I imagine he's busy on the phone dealing with those same "issues". " The phone signal must be terrible from inside a fridge. | |||
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"And the channel tunnel had millions (give or take) of signs everywhere. So I'm sure than Port of Dover had them too." And when you look into it there was just blank pages of saying this will be updated! A poster to show you how to run a business!, really? | |||
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"And the channel tunnel had millions (give or take) of signs everywhere. So I'm sure than Port of Dover had them too. And when you look into it there was just blank pages of saying this will be updated! A poster to show you how to run a business!, really? " it was pointing you to the places to find the info' Yes. Really. | |||
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"And the channel tunnel had millions (give or take) of signs everywhere. So I'm sure than Port of Dover had them too. And when you look into it there was just blank pages of saying this will be updated! A poster to show you how to run a business!, really? it was pointing you to the places to find the info' Yes. Really. " There was no information so then what. How do you prepare then? It was the government lining up to blame business just like making sure no queues in Dover. It’s bullshit central. | |||
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"Reading all this with interest.. We as a regular exporter along with every haulier and clearing house in the country have been asking daily for the last twelve months what are the processes? They were not ready and not published so please tell me what we were supposed to prepare with? Government did not have a fucking clue! The full operation for us, not everyone, was not released until after Christmas with T1 update processes being issued on the 23rd December just in time for everyone’s holiday. Not really issued just an update on a website so you had to be looking* for it! Drivers who need a T1 document are not allowed to go to the port until their client has started a clearance and been issued with an MRN . The haulier then registers with customs the vehicle then applies to attend a customs clearance post online or by text. He then waits for a text before he can travel to that post hopefully on route. . If the post is busy he is diverted elsewhere which could be 40 + miles off route. He then gets to attend and wait for the normal customs process which used to be done at the port. Governments own words when running normally “expect 1-2 hour delay at the site” The truck is then allowed to proceed to the port assuming he has a Kent pass and a Covid clear driver. The whole process is being slowed down because the IT doesn’t work and there aren’t enough staff to cope. Ask Gove how many of those 50K customs officers needed have been recruited? Btw more expense when they are. Another Brexit saving?. Do you have any idea how costly it is to divert and hold up £150k worth of truck on every load? It’s running into hundreds of euros each and every time. When the volumes lift I hope they can cope. Otherwise those costs will go through the roof. Absolute waste of everyone’s time and money. Btw until this moment all this for countries outside the EU was done electronically so who’s kidding who? " it would be interesting to know how much of what you have written about there, was necessary prior to 1st January | |||
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"Gove said it will be the fault of business if there are problems. " "In 9 days 18 Thousand correctly filled Electronic Passports have been filled out correctly and those trucks have gone through without delays. 700 have been turned away - and 150 fined for non-compliance". Seems it is . . . | |||
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"Reading all this with interest.. We as a regular exporter along with every haulier and clearing house in the country have been asking daily for the last twelve months what are the processes? They were not ready and not published so please tell me what we were supposed to prepare with? Government did not have a fucking clue! The full operation for us, not everyone, was not released until after Christmas with T1 update processes being issued on the 23rd December just in time for everyone’s holiday. Not really issued just an update on a website so you had to be looking* for it! Drivers who need a T1 document are not allowed to go to the port until their client has started a clearance and been issued with an MRN . The haulier then registers with customs the vehicle then applies to attend a customs clearance post online or by text. He then waits for a text before he can travel to that post hopefully on route. . If the post is busy he is diverted elsewhere which could be 40 + miles off route. He then gets to attend and wait for the normal customs process which used to be done at the port. Governments own words when running normally “expect 1-2 hour delay at the site” The truck is then allowed to proceed to the port assuming he has a Kent pass and a Covid clear driver. The whole process is being slowed down because the IT doesn’t work and there aren’t enough staff to cope. Ask Gove how many of those 50K customs officers needed have been recruited? Btw more expense when they are. Another Brexit saving?. Do you have any idea how costly it is to divert and hold up £150k worth of truck on every load? It’s running into hundreds of euros each and every time. When the volumes lift I hope they can cope. Otherwise those costs will go through the roof. Absolute waste of everyone’s time and money. Btw until this moment all this for countries outside the EU was done electronically so who’s kidding who? it would be interesting to know how much of what you have written about there, was necessary prior to 1st January" To Europe absolutely none of it. We only incurred costs previously with routes direct to Norway or on transits to Norway through Sweden. The rest was load and go then invoice. Some year long licences on some products but just sent in the truck for legal reasons not checked or submitted. To add to our woes some clients want discharge of the T1 and clearance in another transit country rather than the country of destination so we have additional divert there too. That’s our clients causing costs though not the U.K. so can’t blame the divert on U.K. . But the discharges are a direct result on DDP so additional costs directly attributable to Brexit. DAP we are paying by default on trade pricing so it’s another loss. | |||
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"Gove said it will be the fault of business if there are problems. "In 9 days 18 Thousand correctly filled Electronic Passports have been filled out correctly and those trucks have gone through without delays. 700 have been turned away - and 150 fined for non-compliance". Seems it is . . . " Can you explain the passport please? And gone through where without delays? | |||
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"Reading all this with interest.. We as a regular exporter along with every haulier and clearing house in the country have been asking daily for the last twelve months what are the processes? They were not ready and not published so please tell me what we were supposed to prepare with? Government did not have a fucking clue! The full operation for us, not everyone, was not released until after Christmas with T1 update processes being issued on the 23rd December just in time for everyone’s holiday. Not really issued just an update on a website so you had to be looking* for it! Drivers who need a T1 document are not allowed to go to the port until their client has started a clearance and been issued with an MRN . The haulier then registers with customs the vehicle then applies to attend a customs clearance post online or by text. He then waits for a text before he can travel to that post hopefully on route. . If the post is busy he is diverted elsewhere which could be 40 + miles off route. He then gets to attend and wait for the normal customs process which used to be done at the port. Governments own words when running normally “expect 1-2 hour delay at the site” The truck is then allowed to proceed to the port assuming he has a Kent pass and a Covid clear driver. The whole process is being slowed down because the IT doesn’t work and there aren’t enough staff to cope. Ask Gove how many of those 50K customs officers needed have been recruited? Btw more expense when they are. Another Brexit saving?. Do you have any idea how costly it is to divert and hold up £150k worth of truck on every load? It’s running into hundreds of euros each and every time. When the volumes lift I hope they can cope. Otherwise those costs will go through the roof. Absolute waste of everyone’s time and money. Btw until this moment all this for countries outside the EU was done electronically so who’s kidding who? it would be interesting to know how much of what you have written about there, was necessary prior to 1st January To Europe absolutely none of it. We only incurred costs previously with routes direct to Norway or on transits to Norway through Sweden. The rest was load and go then invoice. Some year long licences on some products but just sent in the truck for legal reasons not checked or submitted. To add to our woes some clients want discharge of the T1 and clearance in another transit country rather than the country of destination so we have additional divert there too. That’s our clients causing costs though not the U.K. so can’t blame the divert on U.K. . But the discharges are a direct result on DDP so additional costs directly attributable to Brexit. DAP we are paying by default on trade pricing so it’s another loss. " thankyou for your reply. it appears that this must be why an increasing amount of companies are stopping trading between the UK & EU since the new year. It seems a shame | |||
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"And the channel tunnel had millions (give or take) of signs everywhere. So I'm sure than Port of Dover had them too." I wonder who paid for those millions of signs ? Brexit the pig with lipstick. | |||
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"Gove said it will be the fault of business if there are problems. "In 9 days 18 Thousand correctly filled Electronic Passports have been filled out correctly and those trucks have gone through without delays. 700 have been turned away - and 150 fined for non-compliance". Seems it is . . . Can you explain the passport please? And gone through where without delays? " To follow the thread you have to read the thread . . . https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jan/08/stuck-lorry-drivers-calais-effects-brexit-eurotunnel | |||
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"And the channel tunnel had millions (give or take) of signs everywhere. So I'm sure than Port of Dover had them too. I wonder who paid for those millions of signs ? Brexit the pig with lipstick." yes you got your catch phase in again today well done you.   | |||
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"Gove said it will be the fault of business if there are problems. "In 9 days 18 Thousand correctly filled Electronic Passports have been filled out correctly and those trucks have gone through without delays. 700 have been turned away - and 150 fined for non-compliance". Seems it is . . . Can you explain the passport please? And gone through where without delays? To follow the thread you have to read the thread . . . https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jan/08/stuck-lorry-drivers-calais-effects-brexit-eurotunnel" Yes I was just wondering if you knew what you were talking about? The Kent Access Pass is issued after the export is submitted and cleared to proceed for non transit and for trucks to arrive at a customs inland post should it be Ashford for a T1 . The passport are issued when all is sorted so the fact that this is the green light towards the end of the process releasing the trucks for most shows you how bad it is if 700 still didn’t make it. These are given the governments go ahead and still don’t make it. FFS | |||
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"Reading all this with interest.. We as a regular exporter along with every haulier and clearing house in the country have been asking daily for the last twelve months what are the processes? They were not ready and not published so please tell me what we were supposed to prepare with? Government did not have a fucking clue! The full operation for us, not everyone, was not released until after Christmas with T1 update processes being issued on the 23rd December just in time for everyone’s holiday. Not really issued just an update on a website so you had to be looking* for it! Drivers who need a T1 document are not allowed to go to the port until their client has started a clearance and been issued with an MRN . The haulier then registers with customs the vehicle then applies to attend a customs clearance post online or by text. He then waits for a text before he can travel to that post hopefully on route. . If the post is busy he is diverted elsewhere which could be 40 + miles off route. He then gets to attend and wait for the normal customs process which used to be done at the port. Governments own words when running normally “expect 1-2 hour delay at the site” The truck is then allowed to proceed to the port assuming he has a Kent pass and a Covid clear driver. The whole process is being slowed down because the IT doesn’t work and there aren’t enough staff to cope. Ask Gove how many of those 50K customs officers needed have been recruited? Btw more expense when they are. Another Brexit saving?. Do you have any idea how costly it is to divert and hold up £150k worth of truck on every load? It’s running into hundreds of euros each and every time. When the volumes lift I hope they can cope. Otherwise those costs will go through the roof. Absolute waste of everyone’s time and money. Btw until this moment all this for countries outside the EU was done electronically so who’s kidding who? it would be interesting to know how much of what you have written about there, was necessary prior to 1st January To Europe absolutely none of it. We only incurred costs previously with routes direct to Norway or on transits to Norway through Sweden. The rest was load and go then invoice. Some year long licences on some products but just sent in the truck for legal reasons not checked or submitted. To add to our woes some clients want discharge of the T1 and clearance in another transit country rather than the country of destination so we have additional divert there too. That’s our clients causing costs though not the U.K. so can’t blame the divert on U.K. . But the discharges are a direct result on DDP so additional costs directly attributable to Brexit. DAP we are paying by default on trade pricing so it’s another loss. thankyou for your reply. it appears that this must be why an increasing amount of companies are stopping trading between the UK & EU since the new year. It seems a shame" If the margins are tight the business will be stopped which is bad for U.K. Plc | |||
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"Gove said it will be the fault of business if there are problems. "In 9 days 18 Thousand correctly filled Electronic Passports have been filled out correctly and those trucks have gone through without delays. 700 have been turned away - and 150 fined for non-compliance". Seems it is . . . Can you explain the passport please? And gone through where without delays? To follow the thread you have to read the thread . . . https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jan/08/stuck-lorry-drivers-calais-effects-brexit-eurotunnel Yes I was just wondering if you knew what you were talking about? The Kent Access Pass is issued after the export is submitted and cleared to proceed for non transit and for trucks to arrive at a customs inland post should it be Ashford for a T1 . The passport are issued when all is sorted so the fact that this is the green light towards the end of the process releasing the trucks for most shows you how bad it is if 700 still didn’t make it. These are given the governments go ahead and still don’t make it. FFS " Yup. Know that. It seems quite few companies still didn't. But 18 thousand did. Oh and thank you for checking my knowledge - glad I've passed. | |||
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"Gove said it will be the fault of business if there are problems. "In 9 days 18 Thousand correctly filled Electronic Passports have been filled out correctly and those trucks have gone through without delays. 700 have been turned away - and 150 fined for non-compliance". Seems it is . . . Can you explain the passport please? And gone through where without delays? To follow the thread you have to read the thread . . . https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jan/08/stuck-lorry-drivers-calais-effects-brexit-eurotunnel Yes I was just wondering if you knew what you were talking about? The Kent Access Pass is issued after the export is submitted and cleared to proceed for non transit and for trucks to arrive at a customs inland post should it be Ashford for a T1 . The passport are issued when all is sorted so the fact that this is the green light towards the end of the process releasing the trucks for most shows you how bad it is if 700 still didn’t make it. These are given the governments go ahead and still don’t make it. FFS Yup. Know that. It seems quite few companies still didn't. But 18 thousand did. Oh and thank you for checking my knowledge - glad I've passed. "The 18,000 made it after the trauma of the process and found their way through so probably leaned the hard way like us in the last minutes of 2020. 700 still fell over after the government said they were good to go! Always happy to pay you a compliment CatEvolution  | |||
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" The 18,000 made it after the trauma of the process and found their way through so probably leaned the hard way like us in the last minutes of 2020. 700 still fell over after the government said they were good to go! Always happy to pay you a compliment CatEvolution "See. When I do my tax return every year I have to it right, or it's a 1K fine. It's a pain in the arse, but it's never a trauma. Compliment gracefully accepted. | |||
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" The 18,000 made it after the trauma of the process and found their way through so probably leaned the hard way like us in the last minutes of 2020. 700 still fell over after the government said they were good to go! Always happy to pay you a compliment CatEvolution
See. When I do my tax return every year I have to it right, or it's a 1K fine. It's a pain in the arse, but it's never a trauma.
Compliment gracefully accepted. "If the government t said you’ve done it right then fined you how would that go down?  | |||
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"But I thought brexit was going to reduce paperwork and red tape, or was that a lie? That was never said. And remember MOST of the paperwork is set by the EU not the UK. And the UK have been banging on about the Access Permit (KAP) – being called the Brexit passport – which is issued electronically to trucks whose suppliers have to testify they have all their paperwork for the Channel crossing in order. And some companies still haven't done it " Removing red tape was a line trotted out by all the leave campaigns, parties and media. Here's an example from prior to the referendum. www.express.co.uk/news/politics/665089/Brussels-red-tape-cost-EU-Brexit-Priti-Patel/amp&ved=2ahUKEwjKw523tI_uAhWsQEEAHT7RDkY4FBAWMAR6BAgAEAE&usg=AOvVaw2qWfSTwaL9NUysVPVEHj5I | |||
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" The 18,000 made it after the trauma of the process and found their way through so probably leaned the hard way like us in the last minutes of 2020. 700 still fell over after the government said they were good to go! Always happy to pay you a compliment CatEvolution
See. When I do my tax return every year I have to it right, or it's a 1K fine. It's a pain in the arse, but it's never a trauma.
Compliment gracefully accepted.
If the government t said you’ve done it right then fined you how would that go down? "I think the story reads that the firms had not done it right. | |||
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" The 18,000 made it after the trauma of the process and found their way through so probably leaned the hard way like us in the last minutes of 2020. 700 still fell over after the government said they were good to go! Always happy to pay you a compliment CatEvolution
See. When I do my tax return every year I have to it right, or it's a 1K fine. It's a pain in the arse, but it's never a trauma.
Compliment gracefully accepted.
If the government t said you’ve done it right then fined you how would that go down?
I think the story reads that the firms had not done it right."You only get a passport when you pass the process. Someone is fibbing somewhere in that fact. | |||
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"I agree some would have still failed though so not defending them all . Just 700 errors? Seems a lot. " Out of 19 thousand maybe not so. | |||
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"it appears from several articles in todays assorted press that an increasing amount of companies are stopping trading between the UK & EU as a result of the extra tariffs, taxes and governmental red tape outweighing the profitability of the transactions rather than failing to be able to understand the process. it seems a shame." I knew a guy taking advantage of cheap export trucking who could buy straw in the U.K. and sell it in The Netherlands undercutting the local supply because the haulage was so cheap compared to domestic trucking in Holland. I wonder if he still has that advantage. I’m thinking probably not. | |||
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"I agree some would have still failed though so not defending them all . Just 700 errors? Seems a lot. Out of 19 thousand maybe not so. " Given that the government said you’re good to go its hard apart from Covid to see how they could mess it up? | |||
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"it appears from several articles in todays assorted press that an increasing amount of companies are stopping trading between the UK & EU as a result of the extra tariffs, taxes and governmental red tape outweighing the profitability of the transactions rather than failing to be able to understand the process. it seems a shame. I knew a guy taking advantage of cheap export trucking who could buy straw in the U.K. and sell it in The Netherlands undercutting the local supply because the haulage was so cheap compared to domestic trucking in Holland. I wonder if he still has that advantage. I’m thinking probably not. " But Brexit is what we have now. The majority voted for it. And now we have to make it work. | |||
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".... or do as an ever increasing number of companies are doing and ceasing trade as new tariffs, taxes and governmental beaurocracy make import/export unprofitable" VAT is governmental. Tariff free. Paperwork mostly assigned by EU.  | |||
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"it appears from several articles in todays assorted press that an increasing amount of companies are stopping trading between the UK & EU as a result of the extra tariffs, taxes and governmental red tape outweighing the profitability of the transactions rather than failing to be able to understand the process. it seems a shame. I knew a guy taking advantage of cheap export trucking who could buy straw in the U.K. and sell it in The Netherlands undercutting the local supply because the haulage was so cheap compared to domestic trucking in Holland. I wonder if he still has that advantage. I’m thinking probably not. But Brexit is what we have now. The majority voted for it. And now we have to make it work. "Of course. But should we be celebrating the introduction of less efficient processes, more red tape, less opportunities for British businesses, less choice for the consumers? | |||
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" But should we be celebrating the introduction of less efficient processes, more red tape, less opportunities for British businesses, less choice for the consumers?" it would seem odd to when there is an ever increasing list of companies ceasing trading between the UK & EU due to the factors you have listed along with the new tariffs, taxes and governmental beaurocracy | |||
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"it appears from several articles in todays assorted press that an increasing amount of companies are stopping trading between the UK & EU as a result of the extra tariffs, taxes and governmental red tape outweighing the profitability of the transactions rather than failing to be able to understand the process. it seems a shame. I knew a guy taking advantage of cheap export trucking who could buy straw in the U.K. and sell it in The Netherlands undercutting the local supply because the haulage was so cheap compared to domestic trucking in Holland. I wonder if he still has that advantage. I’m thinking probably not. But Brexit is what we have now. The majority voted for it. And now we have to make it work. "Indeed the vote was for leave but did they know the cost of stopping immigrants would be so costly and damaging to business? Stopping 3000 benefit claimants from Bulgaria is not really worth it in my opinion. Sovereignty for what it’s worth doesn’t put food on tables it just waves cloth flags for the people facing backwards believing empire will be the future. Sadly the world is moving on without us. | |||
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"it appears from several articles in todays assorted press that an increasing amount of companies are stopping trading between the UK & EU as a result of the extra tariffs, taxes and governmental red tape outweighing the profitability of the transactions rather than failing to be able to understand the process. it seems a shame. I knew a guy taking advantage of cheap export trucking who could buy straw in the U.K. and sell it in The Netherlands undercutting the local supply because the haulage was so cheap compared to domestic trucking in Holland. I wonder if he still has that advantage. I’m thinking probably not. But Brexit is what we have now. The majority voted for it. And now we have to make it work.
Indeed the vote was for leave but did they know the cost of stopping immigrants would be so costly
and damaging to business?
Stopping 3000 benefit claimants from Bulgaria is not really worth it in my opinion. Sovereignty for what it’s worth doesn’t put food on tables it just waves cloth flags for the people facing backwards believing empire will be the future.
Sadly the world is moving on without us.
"jackal mate when you say shit like stopping imigrants you are stopping short of calling us racists mate very poor from you ya better than that | |||
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"it appears from several articles in todays assorted press that an increasing amount of companies are stopping trading between the UK & EU as a result of the extra tariffs, taxes and governmental red tape outweighing the profitability of the transactions rather than failing to be able to understand the process. it seems a shame. I knew a guy taking advantage of cheap export trucking who could buy straw in the U.K. and sell it in The Netherlands undercutting the local supply because the haulage was so cheap compared to domestic trucking in Holland. I wonder if he still has that advantage. I’m thinking probably not. But Brexit is what we have now. The majority voted for it. And now we have to make it work.
Indeed the vote was for leave but did they know the cost of stopping immigrants would be so costly
and damaging to business?
Stopping 3000 benefit claimants from Bulgaria is not really worth it in my opinion. Sovereignty for what it’s worth doesn’t put food on tables it just waves cloth flags for the people facing backwards believing empire will be the future.
Sadly the world is moving on without us.
jackal mate when you say shit like stopping imigrants you are stopping short of calling us racists mate very poor from you ya better than that "Lol u do love to make stuff up foxi  | |||
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"it appears from several articles in todays assorted press that an increasing amount of companies are stopping trading between the UK & EU as a result of the extra tariffs, taxes and governmental red tape outweighing the profitability of the transactions rather than failing to be able to understand the process. it seems a shame. I knew a guy taking advantage of cheap export trucking who could buy straw in the U.K. and sell it in The Netherlands undercutting the local supply because the haulage was so cheap compared to domestic trucking in Holland. I wonder if he still has that advantage. I’m thinking probably not. But Brexit is what we have now. The majority voted for it. And now we have to make it work.
Indeed the vote was for leave but did they know the cost of stopping immigrants would be so costly
and damaging to business?
Stopping 3000 benefit claimants from Bulgaria is not really worth it in my opinion. Sovereignty for what it’s worth doesn’t put food on tables it just waves cloth flags for the people facing backwards believing empire will be the future.
Sadly the world is moving on without us.
jackal mate when you say shit like stopping imigrants you are stopping short of calling us racists mate very poor from you ya better than that "Hi Foxy I’m not for one moment accusing everyone of racism so apologies if that’s the impression I gave. I have a personal friend who I’ve known for 30 years and he’s a Brexiteer. His only argument is to stop immigrants. He runs a business and all his argument has been stop the foreigners. My Opinion of him had fallen but he lives on the east coast inundated with seasonal farm workers so is his view skewered? The headlines claiming “how many more can we take?” or the fact that 75 percent of news articles stated illegal immigration rather than just immigration in the title have lead to a bias against foreign workers. Remember a million Turks? The fact that most immigration in the U.K. every year comes from outside of Europe has passed so many people by. So yes I have a biased view on the close our borders brigade as I suspect a great many are mislead by the media. I do not ever wish to accuse anyone of racism so please rest assured it’s the anti immigration I rile against. Immigration has made this country great and to blame hard worker Eastern European’s for our own countries problems is cheap and easy. Our own younger generation don’t want the jobs so why not offer them out? They all pay tax so that’s a good thing. My view on Brexit is it is lead by very rich people wanting to avoid the tax regime planned by the EU and it’s that simple. They would have been made to pay more or at least something. Those are the people who’s own vested interests have lead this country to such a nightmare position. | |||
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"it appears from several articles in todays assorted press that an increasing amount of companies are stopping trading between the UK & EU as a result of the extra tariffs, taxes and governmental red tape outweighing the profitability of the transactions rather than failing to be able to understand the process. it seems a shame. I knew a guy taking advantage of cheap export trucking who could buy straw in the U.K. and sell it in The Netherlands undercutting the local supply because the haulage was so cheap compared to domestic trucking in Holland. I wonder if he still has that advantage. I’m thinking probably not. But Brexit is what we have now. The majority voted for it. And now we have to make it work.
Indeed the vote was for leave but did they know the cost of stopping immigrants would be so costly
and damaging to business?
Stopping 3000 benefit claimants from Bulgaria is not really worth it in my opinion. Sovereignty for what it’s worth doesn’t put food on tables it just waves cloth flags for the people facing backwards believing empire will be the future.
Sadly the world is moving on without us.
jackal mate when you say shit like stopping imigrants you are stopping short of calling us racists mate very poor from you ya better than that
Hi Foxy
I’m not for one moment accusing everyone of racism so apologies if that’s the impression I gave.
I have a personal friend who I’ve known for 30 years and he’s a Brexiteer. His only argument is to stop immigrants. He runs a business and all his argument has been stop the foreigners. My Opinion of him had fallen but he lives on the east coast inundated with seasonal farm workers so is his view skewered?
The headlines claiming “how many more can we take?” or the fact that 75 percent of news articles stated illegal immigration rather than just immigration in the title have lead to a bias against foreign workers. Remember a million Turks?
The fact that most immigration in the U.K. every year comes from outside of Europe has passed so many people by.
So yes I have a biased view on the close our borders brigade as I suspect a great many are mislead by the media.
I do not ever wish to accuse anyone of racism so please rest assured it’s the anti immigration I rile against.
Immigration has made this country great and to blame hard worker Eastern European’s for our own countries problems is cheap and easy.
Our own younger generation don’t want the jobs so why not offer them out? They all pay tax so that’s a good thing.
My view on Brexit is it is lead by very rich people wanting to avoid the tax regime planned by the EU and it’s that simple. They would have been made to pay more or at least something. Those are the people who’s own vested interests have lead this country to such a nightmare position. "very rarely have I read anyone posting about stopping immigration me I just wanted it slowing down never stopped I don’t care if there Eastern European Asian African or from Mars if I was them I’d want to come here and do everything I could to get here I can’t fault them it was also the cloth wavering comment I trust yr word of you say wasn’t yr intention I know for a fact that wasn’t yr intention as iv read yr posts for a long time that’s why I said yr better than that I was suprrised that’s all of you knew me personally you would know being called racist is a joke considering my life and it’s the worst insult but I know it wasn’t yr intention bud cheers | |||
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"it appears from several articles in todays assorted press that an increasing amount of companies are stopping trading between the UK & EU as a result of the extra tariffs, taxes and governmental red tape outweighing the profitability of the transactions rather than failing to be able to understand the process. it seems a shame. I knew a guy taking advantage of cheap export trucking who could buy straw in the U.K. and sell it in The Netherlands undercutting the local supply because the haulage was so cheap compared to domestic trucking in Holland. I wonder if he still has that advantage. I’m thinking probably not. But Brexit is what we have now. The majority voted for it. And now we have to make it work.
Indeed the vote was for leave but did they know the cost of stopping immigrants would be so costly
and damaging to business?
Stopping 3000 benefit claimants from Bulgaria is not really worth it in my opinion. Sovereignty for what it’s worth doesn’t put food on tables it just waves cloth flags for the people facing backwards believing empire will be the future.
Sadly the world is moving on without us.
jackal mate when you say shit like stopping imigrants you are stopping short of calling us racists mate very poor from you ya better than that
Hi Foxy
I’m not for one moment accusing everyone of racism so apologies if that’s the impression I gave.
I have a personal friend who I’ve known for 30 years and he’s a Brexiteer. His only argument is to stop immigrants. He runs a business and all his argument has been stop the foreigners. My Opinion of him had fallen but he lives on the east coast inundated with seasonal farm workers so is his view skewered?
The headlines claiming “how many more can we take?” or the fact that 75 percent of news articles stated illegal immigration rather than just immigration in the title have lead to a bias against foreign workers. Remember a million Turks?
The fact that most immigration in the U.K. every year comes from outside of Europe has passed so many people by.
So yes I have a biased view on the close our borders brigade as I suspect a great many are mislead by the media.
I do not ever wish to accuse anyone of racism so please rest assured it’s the anti immigration I rile against.
Immigration has made this country great and to blame hard worker Eastern European’s for our own countries problems is cheap and easy.
Our own younger generation don’t want the jobs so why not offer them out? They all pay tax so that’s a good thing.
My view on Brexit is it is lead by very rich people wanting to avoid the tax regime planned by the EU and it’s that simple. They would have been made to pay more or at least something. Those are the people who’s own vested interests have lead this country to such a nightmare position. very rarely have I read anyone posting about stopping immigration me I just wanted it slowing down never stopped I don’t care if there Eastern European Asian African or from Mars if I was them I’d want to come here and do everything I could to get here I can’t fault them it was also the cloth wavering comment I trust yr word of you say wasn’t yr intention I know for a fact that wasn’t yr intention as iv read yr posts for a long time that’s why I said yr better than that I was suprrised that’s all of you knew me personally you would know being called racist is a joke considering my life and it’s the worst insult but I know it wasn’t yr intention bud cheers "Feel free to message privately so I can get to know you better!
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" But should we be celebrating the introduction of less efficient processes, more red tape, less opportunities for British businesses, less choice for the consumers? it would seem odd to when there is an ever increasing list of companies ceasing trading between the UK & EU due to the factors you have listed along with the new tariffs, taxes and governmental beaurocracy" Can you list the new tariffs please | |||
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"Truck drivers tell of long delays for checks at the eurotunnel as the trade barrier goes up between uk and eu, they are starting to feel the effects of brexit, how long do you think the waiting time will be and will there be enough of space for them to wait at calais? Roger arived in france at 2.30pm on tuesday with a truckload of hard cheese from somerset, it now will take some time for him to get to his destination. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jan/08/stuck-lorry-drivers-calais-effects-brexit-eurotunnel “Just missing paperwork.” There is your answer . . . His company only had 4 years to get it right." Bollocks how can they prepare for paperwork when they did not know the outcome. And Boris as lied as usual saying the border would be frictionless. Brexit is bollocks don't need all the rubbish was all fine and easy before. | |||
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"Truck drivers tell of long delays for checks at the eurotunnel as the trade barrier goes up between uk and eu, they are starting to feel the effects of brexit, how long do you think the waiting time will be and will there be enough of space for them to wait at calais? Roger arived in france at 2.30pm on tuesday with a truckload of hard cheese from somerset, it now will take some time for him to get to his destination. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jan/08/stuck-lorry-drivers-calais-effects-brexit-eurotunnel “Just missing paperwork.” There is your answer . . . His company only had 4 years to get it right. Bollocks how can they prepare for paperwork when they did not know the outcome. And Boris as lied as usual saying the border would be frictionless. Brexit is bollocks don't need all the rubbish was all fine and easy before. " Read the rest of the thread above to find out. | |||
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"it appears from several articles in todays assorted press that an increasing amount of companies are stopping trading between the UK & EU as a result of the extra tariffs, taxes and governmental red tape outweighing the profitability of the transactions rather than failing to be able to understand the process. it seems a shame. I knew a guy taking advantage of cheap export trucking who could buy straw in the U.K. and sell it in The Netherlands undercutting the local supply because the haulage was so cheap compared to domestic trucking in Holland. I wonder if he still has that advantage. I’m thinking probably not. " I sell fruit and veg Dutch rhubarb not available now Had to buy English same price poorer quality but beneficial to English growers Already proving the benifits coming to the UK In a small way | |||
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"it appears that Johnson will need a new waste paper bin of monumental proportions ... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7664181/Remainer-fury-Boris-Johnson-promises-Northern-Ireland-free-movement.html" I think it will be a matter of time before they turn on him fully | |||
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"it appears from several articles in todays assorted press that an increasing amount of companies are stopping trading between the UK & EU as a result of the extra tariffs, taxes and governmental red tape outweighing the profitability of the transactions rather than failing to be able to understand the process. it seems a shame. I knew a guy taking advantage of cheap export trucking who could buy straw in the U.K. and sell it in The Netherlands undercutting the local supply because the haulage was so cheap compared to domestic trucking in Holland. I wonder if he still has that advantage. I’m thinking probably not. I sell fruit and veg Dutch rhubarb not available now Had to buy English same price poorer quality but beneficial to English growers Already proving the benifits coming to the UK In a small way " Bet you'll be over the moon with the hormone and steroid beef as well. | |||
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"it appears from several articles in todays assorted press that an increasing amount of companies are stopping trading between the UK & EU as a result of the extra tariffs, taxes and governmental red tape outweighing the profitability of the transactions rather than failing to be able to understand the process. it seems a shame. I knew a guy taking advantage of cheap export trucking who could buy straw in the U.K. and sell it in The Netherlands undercutting the local supply because the haulage was so cheap compared to domestic trucking in Holland. I wonder if he still has that advantage. I’m thinking probably not. I sell fruit and veg Dutch rhubarb not available now Had to buy English same price poorer quality but beneficial to English growers Already proving the benifits coming to the UK In a small way Bet you'll be over the moon with the hormone and steroid beef as well." As everyone saying harder to export so sell in UK instead of shipping round the world but British !! Go bj | |||
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"it appears from several articles in todays assorted press that an increasing amount of companies are stopping trading between the UK & EU as a result of the extra tariffs, taxes and governmental red tape outweighing the profitability of the transactions rather than failing to be able to understand the process. it seems a shame. I knew a guy taking advantage of cheap export trucking who could buy straw in the U.K. and sell it in The Netherlands undercutting the local supply because the haulage was so cheap compared to domestic trucking in Holland. I wonder if he still has that advantage. I’m thinking probably not. I sell fruit and veg Dutch rhubarb not available now Had to buy English same price poorer quality but beneficial to English growers Already proving the benifits coming to the UK In a small way Bet you'll be over the moon with the hormone and steroid beef as well. As everyone saying harder to export so sell in UK instead of shipping round the world but British !! Go bj" What about the coconuts ? | |||
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"it appears from several articles in todays assorted press that an increasing amount of companies are stopping trading between the UK & EU as a result of the extra tariffs, taxes and governmental red tape outweighing the profitability of the transactions rather than failing to be able to understand the process. it seems a shame. I knew a guy taking advantage of cheap export trucking who could buy straw in the U.K. and sell it in The Netherlands undercutting the local supply because the haulage was so cheap compared to domestic trucking in Holland. I wonder if he still has that advantage. I’m thinking probably not. I sell fruit and veg Dutch rhubarb not available now Had to buy English same price poorer quality but beneficial to English growers Already proving the benifits coming to the UK In a small way Bet you'll be over the moon with the hormone and steroid beef as well. As everyone saying harder to export so sell in UK instead of shipping round the world but British !! Go bj What about the coconuts ?" They’ve never been grown in eu No change there then | |||
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"it appears from several articles in todays assorted press that an increasing amount of companies are stopping trading between the UK & EU as a result of the extra tariffs, taxes and governmental red tape outweighing the profitability of the transactions rather than failing to be able to understand the process. it seems a shame. I knew a guy taking advantage of cheap export trucking who could buy straw in the U.K. and sell it in The Netherlands undercutting the local supply because the haulage was so cheap compared to domestic trucking in Holland. I wonder if he still has that advantage. I’m thinking probably not. I sell fruit and veg Dutch rhubarb not available now Had to buy English same price poorer quality but beneficial to English growers Already proving the benifits coming to the UK In a small way Bet you'll be over the moon with the hormone and steroid beef as well. As everyone saying harder to export so sell in UK instead of shipping round the world but British !! Go bj" Were we unable to buy British prior to Brexit? | |||
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"Meanwhile at the border they pretend doesn't exist https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-55586246 Didn't read? Food shortages and job loss warnings and again . . . all about doing the paperwork . . . "After that they will have to comply with all the paperwork required to ship food in, or find suppliers on the island of Ireland or elsewhere in the EU"." In the meantime Supermarkets in Northern Ireland have empty shelves. Should the CEOs of Sainsbury's and M&S resign? | |||
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"it appears from several articles in todays assorted press that an increasing amount of companies are stopping trading between the UK & EU as a result of the extra tariffs, taxes and governmental red tape outweighing the profitability of the transactions rather than failing to be able to understand the process. it seems a shame. I knew a guy taking advantage of cheap export trucking who could buy straw in the U.K. and sell it in The Netherlands undercutting the local supply because the haulage was so cheap compared to domestic trucking in Holland. I wonder if he still has that advantage. I’m thinking probably not. I sell fruit and veg Dutch rhubarb not available now Had to buy English same price poorer quality but beneficial to English growers Already proving the benifits coming to the UK In a small way Bet you'll be over the moon with the hormone and steroid beef as well. As everyone saying harder to export so sell in UK instead of shipping round the world but British !! Go bj What about the coconuts ? They’ve never been grown in eu No change there then " So it's just rhubarb, carrots potatoes and cabbage then all costing the same but poorer quality, the stuff we dont grow we cant get any more or will cost more. Wow this brexit pig is something else. | |||
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"it appears from several articles in todays assorted press that an increasing amount of companies are stopping trading between the UK & EU as a result of the extra tariffs, taxes and governmental red tape outweighing the profitability of the transactions rather than failing to be able to understand the process. it seems a shame. I knew a guy taking advantage of cheap export trucking who could buy straw in the U.K. and sell it in The Netherlands undercutting the local supply because the haulage was so cheap compared to domestic trucking in Holland. I wonder if he still has that advantage. I’m thinking probably not. I sell fruit and veg Dutch rhubarb not available now Had to buy English same price poorer quality but beneficial to English growers Already proving the benifits coming to the UK In a small way Bet you'll be over the moon with the hormone and steroid beef as well. As everyone saying harder to export so sell in UK instead of shipping round the world but British !! Go bj What about the coconuts ? They’ve never been grown in eu No change there then So it's just rhubarb, carrots potatoes and cabbage then all costing the same but poorer quality, the stuff we dont grow we cant get any more or will cost more. Wow this brexit pig is something else." Apparently less consumer choice is a brexit benefit for some people. | |||
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"it appears from several articles in todays assorted press that an increasing amount of companies are stopping trading between the UK & EU as a result of the extra tariffs, taxes and governmental red tape outweighing the profitability of the transactions rather than failing to be able to understand the process. it seems a shame. I knew a guy taking advantage of cheap export trucking who could buy straw in the U.K. and sell it in The Netherlands undercutting the local supply because the haulage was so cheap compared to domestic trucking in Holland. I wonder if he still has that advantage. I’m thinking probably not. I sell fruit and veg Dutch rhubarb not available now Had to buy English same price poorer quality but beneficial to English growers Already proving the benifits coming to the UK In a small way Bet you'll be over the moon with the hormone and steroid beef as well. As everyone saying harder to export so sell in UK instead of shipping round the world but British !! Go bj What about the coconuts ? They’ve never been grown in eu No change there then So it's just rhubarb, carrots potatoes and cabbage then all costing the same but poorer quality, the stuff we dont grow we cant get any more or will cost more. Wow this brexit pig is something else. Apparently less consumer choice is a brexit benefit for some people. "Tut, you're not being positive enough. | |||
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"it appears from several articles in todays assorted press that an increasing amount of companies are stopping trading between the UK & EU as a result of the extra tariffs, taxes and governmental red tape outweighing the profitability of the transactions rather than failing to be able to understand the process. it seems a shame. I knew a guy taking advantage of cheap export trucking who could buy straw in the U.K. and sell it in The Netherlands undercutting the local supply because the haulage was so cheap compared to domestic trucking in Holland. I wonder if he still has that advantage. I’m thinking probably not. I sell fruit and veg Dutch rhubarb not available now Had to buy English same price poorer quality but beneficial to English growers Already proving the benifits coming to the UK In a small way Bet you'll be over the moon with the hormone and steroid beef as well. As everyone saying harder to export so sell in UK instead of shipping round the world but British !! Go bj What about the coconuts ? They’ve never been grown in eu No change there then So it's just rhubarb, carrots potatoes and cabbage then all costing the same but poorer quality, the stuff we dont grow we cant get any more or will cost more. Wow this brexit pig is something else. Apparently less consumer choice is a brexit benefit for some people. "British growers chance to make a come back after being undercut by government supported suppliers from eu Dutch growers guaranteed a price from Dutch government if goes above that price they keep the extra if falls below get guaranteed price English growers sends stock to market gets market price could be £1 could be £10 that’s why there’s few British growers left Get behind your country buy British Or perhaps those guys running up the beach in France getting blown to bits new tony Blair would sign everything away as though he was giving away autographs After 40 years of being butt fucked by eu I am totally behind brexit | |||
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"it appears from several articles in todays assorted press that an increasing amount of companies are stopping trading between the UK & EU as a result of the extra tariffs, taxes and governmental red tape outweighing the profitability of the transactions rather than failing to be able to understand the process. it seems a shame. I knew a guy taking advantage of cheap export trucking who could buy straw in the U.K. and sell it in The Netherlands undercutting the local supply because the haulage was so cheap compared to domestic trucking in Holland. I wonder if he still has that advantage. I’m thinking probably not. I sell fruit and veg Dutch rhubarb not available now Had to buy English same price poorer quality but beneficial to English growers Already proving the benifits coming to the UK In a small way Bet you'll be over the moon with the hormone and steroid beef as well. As everyone saying harder to export so sell in UK instead of shipping round the world but British !! Go bj What about the coconuts ? They’ve never been grown in eu No change there then So it's just rhubarb, carrots potatoes and cabbage then all costing the same but poorer quality, the stuff we dont grow we cant get any more or will cost more. Wow this brexit pig is something else. Apparently less consumer choice is a brexit benefit for some people.
British growers chance to make a come back after being undercut by government supported suppliers from eu
Dutch growers guaranteed a price from Dutch government if goes above that price they keep the extra if falls below get guaranteed price
English growers sends stock to market gets market price could be £1 could be £10 that’s why there’s few British growers left
Get behind your country buy British
Or perhaps those guys running up the beach in France getting blown to bits new tony Blair would sign everything away as though he was giving away autographs
After 40 years of being butt fucked by eu
I am totally behind brexit "This level of confusion combined with misplaced blame is the stereotype for the average brexit voter. I'm sure this is how the rest of the world sees us all these days. | |||
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"it appears from several articles in todays assorted press that an increasing amount of companies are stopping trading between the UK & EU as a result of the extra tariffs, taxes and governmental red tape outweighing the profitability of the transactions rather than failing to be able to understand the process. it seems a shame. I knew a guy taking advantage of cheap export trucking who could buy straw in the U.K. and sell it in The Netherlands undercutting the local supply because the haulage was so cheap compared to domestic trucking in Holland. I wonder if he still has that advantage. I’m thinking probably not. I sell fruit and veg Dutch rhubarb not available now Had to buy English same price poorer quality but beneficial to English growers Already proving the benifits coming to the UK In a small way " So less choice and poor quality is a good thing?? This is the twilight zone . | |||
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"it appears from several articles in todays assorted press that an increasing amount of companies are stopping trading between the UK & EU as a result of the extra tariffs, taxes and governmental red tape outweighing the profitability of the transactions rather than failing to be able to understand the process. it seems a shame. I knew a guy taking advantage of cheap export trucking who could buy straw in the U.K. and sell it in The Netherlands undercutting the local supply because the haulage was so cheap compared to domestic trucking in Holland. I wonder if he still has that advantage. I’m thinking probably not. I sell fruit and veg Dutch rhubarb not available now Had to buy English same price poorer quality but beneficial to English growers Already proving the benifits coming to the UK In a small way Bet you'll be over the moon with the hormone and steroid beef as well. As everyone saying harder to export so sell in UK instead of shipping round the world but British !! Go bj What about the coconuts ? They’ve never been grown in eu No change there then So it's just rhubarb, carrots potatoes and cabbage then all costing the same but poorer quality, the stuff we dont grow we cant get any more or will cost more. Wow this brexit pig is something else. Apparently less consumer choice is a brexit benefit for some people.
British growers chance to make a come back after being undercut by government supported suppliers from eu
Dutch growers guaranteed a price from Dutch government if goes above that price they keep the extra if falls below get guaranteed price
English growers sends stock to market gets market price could be £1 could be £10 that’s why there’s few British growers left
Get behind your country buy British
Or perhaps those guys running up the beach in France getting blown to bits new tony Blair would sign everything away as though he was giving away autographs
After 40 years of being butt fucked by eu
I am totally behind brexit "So it's not just going to be poorer veg at the same price but poorer quality at a higher price...got it | |||
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"it appears from several articles in todays assorted press that an increasing amount of companies are stopping trading between the UK & EU as a result of the extra tariffs, taxes and governmental red tape outweighing the profitability of the transactions rather than failing to be able to understand the process. it seems a shame. I knew a guy taking advantage of cheap export trucking who could buy straw in the U.K. and sell it in The Netherlands undercutting the local supply because the haulage was so cheap compared to domestic trucking in Holland. I wonder if he still has that advantage. I’m thinking probably not. I sell fruit and veg Dutch rhubarb not available now Had to buy English same price poorer quality but beneficial to English growers Already proving the benifits coming to the UK In a small way Bet you'll be over the moon with the hormone and steroid beef as well. As everyone saying harder to export so sell in UK instead of shipping round the world but British !! Go bj What about the coconuts ? They’ve never been grown in eu No change there then So it's just rhubarb, carrots potatoes and cabbage then all costing the same but poorer quality, the stuff we dont grow we cant get any more or will cost more. Wow this brexit pig is something else. Apparently less consumer choice is a brexit benefit for some people.
British growers chance to make a come back after being undercut by government supported suppliers from eu
Dutch growers guaranteed a price from Dutch government if goes above that price they keep the extra if falls below get guaranteed price
English growers sends stock to market gets market price could be £1 could be £10 that’s why there’s few British growers left
Get behind your country buy British
Or perhaps those guys running up the beach in France getting blown to bits new tony Blair would sign everything away as though he was giving away autographs
After 40 years of being butt fucked by eu
I am totally behind brexit "And good luck with that | |||
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"it appears from several articles in todays assorted press that an increasing amount of companies are stopping trading between the UK & EU as a result of the extra tariffs, taxes and governmental red tape outweighing the profitability of the transactions rather than failing to be able to understand the process. it seems a shame. I knew a guy taking advantage of cheap export trucking who could buy straw in the U.K. and sell it in The Netherlands undercutting the local supply because the haulage was so cheap compared to domestic trucking in Holland. I wonder if he still has that advantage. I’m thinking probably not. I sell fruit and veg Dutch rhubarb not available now Had to buy English same price poorer quality but beneficial to English growers Already proving the benifits coming to the UK In a small way Bet you'll be over the moon with the hormone and steroid beef as well. As everyone saying harder to export so sell in UK instead of shipping round the world but British !! Go bj What about the coconuts ? They’ve never been grown in eu No change there then So it's just rhubarb, carrots potatoes and cabbage then all costing the same but poorer quality, the stuff we dont grow we cant get any more or will cost more. Wow this brexit pig is something else. Apparently less consumer choice is a brexit benefit for some people.
British growers chance to make a come back after being undercut by government supported suppliers from eu
Dutch growers guaranteed a price from Dutch government if goes above that price they keep the extra if falls below get guaranteed price
English growers sends stock to market gets market price could be £1 could be £10 that’s why there’s few British growers left
Get behind your country buy British
Or perhaps those guys running up the beach in France getting blown to bits new tony Blair would sign everything away as though he was giving away autographs
After 40 years of being butt fucked by eu
I am totally behind brexit
And good luck with that "It demonstrates how easy it was to convince people that everything wrong with the UK was down to the EU. In this lads example, Dutch domestic policy, is the EUs fault. | |||
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"The world is no much smaller Place now You can go into town and have a meal from dozens of countries around the world. We have become a multicultural country and people around the world live here. Shops sell food from across the globe. And what's the call from brexiteers.. buy British You couldmt make it up "Of course, we could have bought British all along.  | |||
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"it appears from several articles in todays assorted press that an increasing amount of companies are stopping trading between the UK & EU as a result of the extra tariffs, taxes and governmental red tape outweighing the profitability of the transactions rather than failing to be able to understand the process. it seems a shame. I knew a guy taking advantage of cheap export trucking who could buy straw in the U.K. and sell it in The Netherlands undercutting the local supply because the haulage was so cheap compared to domestic trucking in Holland. I wonder if he still has that advantage. I’m thinking probably not. I sell fruit and veg Dutch rhubarb not available now Had to buy English same price poorer quality but beneficial to English growers Already proving the benifits coming to the UK In a small way Bet you'll be over the moon with the hormone and steroid beef as well. As everyone saying harder to export so sell in UK instead of shipping round the world but British !! Go bj What about the coconuts ? They’ve never been grown in eu No change there then So it's just rhubarb, carrots potatoes and cabbage then all costing the same but poorer quality, the stuff we dont grow we cant get any more or will cost more. Wow this brexit pig is something else. Apparently less consumer choice is a brexit benefit for some people.
British growers chance to make a come back after being undercut by government supported suppliers from eu
Dutch growers guaranteed a price from Dutch government if goes above that price they keep the extra if falls below get guaranteed price
English growers sends stock to market gets market price could be £1 could be £10 that’s why there’s few British growers left
Get behind your country buy British
Or perhaps those guys running up the beach in France getting blown to bits new tony Blair would sign everything away as though he was giving away autographs
After 40 years of being butt fucked by eu
I am totally behind brexit
And good luck with that
It demonstrates how easy it was to convince people that everything wrong with the UK was down to the EU. In this lads example, Dutch domestic policy, is the EUs fault. "We have had 40 years of headlines about blaming the eu for everything..its worked a treat. | |||
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"The world is no much smaller Place now You can go into town and have a meal from dozens of countries around the world. We have become a multicultural country and people around the world live here. Shops sell food from across the globe. And what's the call from brexiteers.. buy British You couldmt make it up
Of course, we could have bought British all along.
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"Another problem with a poorer tasting rhubarb is the amount of sugar it's going to need probably foreign sugar at that to make the rhubarb pie edible, it's all like brexit no clue " It’s only poker in looks No body mention taste | |||
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"Another problem with a poorer tasting rhubarb is the amount of sugar it's going to need probably foreign sugar at that to make the rhubarb pie edible, it's all like brexit no clue It’s only poker in looks No body mention taste" Only having crappy looking rhubarb to buy. Can anyone top this? | |||
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"The world is no much smaller Place now You can go into town and have a meal from dozens of countries around the world. We have become a multicultural country and people around the world live here. Shops sell food from across the globe. It’s not a prison your free to leave at any time And what's the call from brexiteers.. buy British You couldmt make it up " | |||
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"Another problem with a poorer tasting rhubarb is the amount of sugar it's going to need probably foreign sugar at that to make the rhubarb pie edible, it's all like brexit no clue It’s only poker in looks No body mention taste" I smell bullshit, where has your patriotism been previously buying all that Dutch rhubarb when u could have supported british..a plastic brexit patriot . | |||
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"The world is no much smaller Place now You can go into town and have a meal from dozens of countries around the world. We have become a multicultural country and people around the world live here. Shops sell food from across the globe. And what's the call from brexiteers.. buy British You couldmt make it up It’s not a prison your free to leave at any time Close the door on way out " | |||
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"The world is no much smaller Place now You can go into town and have a meal from dozens of countries around the world. We have become a multicultural country and people around the world live here. Shops sell food from across the globe. And what's the call from brexiteers.. buy British You couldmt make it up It’s not a prison your free to leave at any time Close the door on way out "Ah this old chestnut. Should all remainers leave the UK? Would this be enforced or voluntary? Also. You guys voted away the freedom of movement within the EU. To you're telling us to get out, while removing our right to go elsewhere. | |||
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"The world is no much smaller Place now You can go into town and have a meal from dozens of countries around the world. We have become a multicultural country and people around the world live here. Shops sell food from across the globe. And what's the call from brexiteers.. buy British You couldmt make it up It’s not a prison your free to leave at any time Close the door on way out "Nah..it will be more fun watching the penny drop. | |||
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"The world is no much smaller Place now You can go into town and have a meal from dozens of countries around the world. We have become a multicultural country and people around the world live here. Shops sell food from across the globe. And what's the call from brexiteers.. buy British You couldmt make it up It’s not a prison your free to leave at any time Close the door on way out
Ah this old chestnut.
Should all remainers leave the UK? Would this be enforced or voluntary?
Also. You guys voted away the freedom of movement within the EU. To you're telling us to get out, while removing our right to go elsewhere."you don’t have to go to eu more countries that those 27 or perhaps you’d forgotten | |||
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"The world is no much smaller Place now You can go into town and have a meal from dozens of countries around the world. We have become a multicultural country and people around the world live here. Shops sell food from across the globe. And what's the call from brexiteers.. buy British You couldmt make it up It’s not a prison your free to leave at any time Close the door on way out
Ah this old chestnut.
Should all remainers leave the UK? Would this be enforced or voluntary?
Also. You guys voted away the freedom of movement within the EU. To you're telling us to get out, while removing our right to go elsewhere.you don’t have to go to eu more countries that those 27 or perhaps you’d forgotten "I don't meet the criteria to move to most of these places. Not rich enough. You're vote landed you stuck with me and other people who you would rather left the UK. Back to which, genuine question. Should all remainers be exiled from the UK? So only people who support brexit, or didn't vote, stay here. | |||
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"Another problem with a poorer tasting rhubarb is the amount of sugar it's going to need probably foreign sugar at that to make the rhubarb pie edible, it's all like brexit no clue It’s only poker in looks No body mention taste I smell bullshit, where has your patriotism been previously buying all that Dutch rhubarb when u could have supported british..a plastic brexit patriot ." Suppliers wouldn’t bring to market easier to get lorry full from Holland Don’t suppose you’ve ever tried to buy British tho Just wander round Aldi picking up bargains That’s the German shop with more union jacks than Buckingham palace | |||
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"The world is no much smaller Place now You can go into town and have a meal from dozens of countries around the world. We have become a multicultural country and people around the world live here. Shops sell food from across the globe. And what's the call from brexiteers.. buy British You couldmt make it up It’s not a prison your free to leave at any time Close the door on way out
Ah this old chestnut.
Should all remainers leave the UK? Would this be enforced or voluntary?
Also. You guys voted away the freedom of movement within the EU. To you're telling us to get out, while removing our right to go elsewhere.you don’t have to go to eu more countries that those 27 or perhaps you’d forgotten
I don't meet the criteria to move to most of these places.
Not rich enough.
You're vote landed you stuck with me and other people who you would rather left the UK.
Back to which, genuine question. Should all remainers be exiled from the UK? So only people who support brexit, or didn't vote, stay here. "God no the salty tears are hilarious | |||
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"The world is no much smaller Place now You can go into town and have a meal from dozens of countries around the world. We have become a multicultural country and people around the world live here. Shops sell food from across the globe. And what's the call from brexiteers.. buy British You couldmt make it up It’s not a prison your free to leave at any time Close the door on way out
Ah this old chestnut.
Should all remainers leave the UK? Would this be enforced or voluntary?
Also. You guys voted away the freedom of movement within the EU. To you're telling us to get out, while removing our right to go elsewhere.you don’t have to go to eu more countries that those 27 or perhaps you’d forgotten
I don't meet the criteria to move to most of these places.
Not rich enough.
You're vote landed you stuck with me and other people who you would rather left the UK.
Back to which, genuine question. Should all remainers be exiled from the UK? So only people who support brexit, or didn't vote, stay here. "Not at all but they should get behind it | |||
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"Another problem with a poorer tasting rhubarb is the amount of sugar it's going to need probably foreign sugar at that to make the rhubarb pie edible, it's all like brexit no clue It’s only poker in looks No body mention taste I smell bullshit, where has your patriotism been previously buying all that Dutch rhubarb when u could have supported british..a plastic brexit patriot . Suppliers wouldn’t bring to market easier to get lorry full from Holland Don’t suppose you’ve ever tried to buy British tho Just wander round Aldi picking up bargains That’s the German shop with more union jacks than Buckingham palace " Excellent stuff. I enjoy how you made up something about someone you don't know. Then got annoyed about it. Here's one for you. You could have bought British before brexit. | |||
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"The world is no much smaller Place now You can go into town and have a meal from dozens of countries around the world. We have become a multicultural country and people around the world live here. Shops sell food from across the globe. And what's the call from brexiteers.. buy British You couldmt make it up It’s not a prison your free to leave at any time Close the door on way out
Ah this old chestnut.
Should all remainers leave the UK? Would this be enforced or voluntary?
Also. You guys voted away the freedom of movement within the EU. To you're telling us to get out, while removing our right to go elsewhere.you don’t have to go to eu more countries that those 27 or perhaps you’d forgotten
I don't meet the criteria to move to most of these places.
Not rich enough.
You're vote landed you stuck with me and other people who you would rather left the UK.
Back to which, genuine question. Should all remainers be exiled from the UK? So only people who support brexit, or didn't vote, stay here.
Not at all but they should get behind it "How would you determine which remainers should be booted out? | |||
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"Another problem with a poorer tasting rhubarb is the amount of sugar it's going to need probably foreign sugar at that to make the rhubarb pie edible, it's all like brexit no clue It’s only poker in looks No body mention taste I smell bullshit, where has your patriotism been previously buying all that Dutch rhubarb when u could have supported british..a plastic brexit patriot . Suppliers wouldn’t bring to market easier to get lorry full from Holland Don’t suppose you’ve ever tried to buy British tho Just wander round Aldi picking up bargains That’s the German shop with more union jacks than Buckingham palace Excellent stuff. I enjoy how you made up something about someone you don't know. Then got annoyed about it. Here's one for you. You could have bought British before brexit. " Like I said ( perhaps your not good at digesting the written word) Suppliers wouldn’t bring to market as easier to buy lorry loads from Holland | |||
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"The world is no much smaller Place now You can go into town and have a meal from dozens of countries around the world. We have become a multicultural country and people around the world live here. Shops sell food from across the globe. And what's the call from brexiteers.. buy British You couldmt make it up It’s not a prison your free to leave at any time Close the door on way out
Ah this old chestnut.
Should all remainers leave the UK? Would this be enforced or voluntary?
Also. You guys voted away the freedom of movement within the EU. To you're telling us to get out, while removing our right to go elsewhere.you don’t have to go to eu more countries that those 27 or perhaps you’d forgotten
I don't meet the criteria to move to most of these places.
Not rich enough.
You're vote landed you stuck with me and other people who you would rather left the UK.
Back to which, genuine question. Should all remainers be exiled from the UK? So only people who support brexit, or didn't vote, stay here.
Not at all but they should get behind
How would you determine which remainers should be booted out?"I’ve never said any should be booted out However all are free to leave if they so wish | |||
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"Another problem with a poorer tasting rhubarb is the amount of sugar it's going to need probably foreign sugar at that to make the rhubarb pie edible, it's all like brexit no clue It’s only poker in looks No body mention taste I smell bullshit, where has your patriotism been previously buying all that Dutch rhubarb when u could have supported british..a plastic brexit patriot . Suppliers wouldn’t bring to market easier to get lorry full from Holland Don’t suppose you’ve ever tried to buy British tho Just wander round Aldi picking up bargains That’s the German shop with more union jacks than Buckingham palace Excellent stuff. I enjoy how you made up something about someone you don't know. Then got annoyed about it. Here's one for you. You could have bought British before brexit. Like I said ( perhaps your not good at digesting the written word) Suppliers wouldn’t bring to market as easier to buy lorry loads from Holland " Yeah I read that. I don't know how that's stopped you buying British prior to brexit. Many of us have been supporting local producers for years and years. | |||
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"The world is no much smaller Place now You can go into town and have a meal from dozens of countries around the world. We have become a multicultural country and people around the world live here. Shops sell food from across the globe. And what's the call from brexiteers.. buy British You couldmt make it up It’s not a prison your free to leave at any time Close the door on way out
Ah this old chestnut.
Should all remainers leave the UK? Would this be enforced or voluntary?
Also. You guys voted away the freedom of movement within the EU. To you're telling us to get out, while removing our right to go elsewhere.you don’t have to go to eu more countries that those 27 or perhaps you’d forgotten
I don't meet the criteria to move to most of these places.
Not rich enough.
You're vote landed you stuck with me and other people who you would rather left the UK.
Back to which, genuine question. Should all remainers be exiled from the UK? So only people who support brexit, or didn't vote, stay here.
Not at all but they should get behind
How would you determine which remainers should be booted out?
I’ve never said any should be booted out
However all are free to leave if they so wish"This is going around in circles. You voted away the freedom of movement within the EU. Many of us aren't rich enough to meet the criteria to relocate to another country. Let's knock this on the head now eh? I am interested in who you think should get out of the UK. And how this would help make a success of Brexit. | |||
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"Another problem with a poorer tasting rhubarb is the amount of sugar it's going to need probably foreign sugar at that to make the rhubarb pie edible, it's all like brexit no clue It’s only poker in looks No body mention taste I smell bullshit, where has your patriotism been previously buying all that Dutch rhubarb when u could have supported british..a plastic brexit patriot . Suppliers wouldn’t bring to market easier to get lorry full from Holland Don’t suppose you’ve ever tried to buy British tho Just wander round Aldi picking up bargains That’s the German shop with more union jacks than Buckingham palace " Do the royal family shop there? | |||
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"Another problem with a poorer tasting rhubarb is the amount of sugar it's going to need probably foreign sugar at that to make the rhubarb pie edible, it's all like brexit no clue It’s only poker in looks No body mention taste I smell bullshit, where has your patriotism been previously buying all that Dutch rhubarb when u could have supported british..a plastic brexit patriot . Suppliers wouldn’t bring to market easier to get lorry full from Holland Don’t suppose you’ve ever tried to buy British tho Just wander round Aldi picking up bargains That’s the German shop with more union jacks than Buckingham palace " So you've spent your whole life supporting those government subsidized Dutch farmers, well done, dont think the Patriots getting blown up on the beach would have been impressed tho. Plastic brexit patriot. | |||
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"Another problem with a poorer tasting rhubarb is the amount of sugar it's going to need probably foreign sugar at that to make the rhubarb pie edible, it's all like brexit no clue It’s only poker in looks No body mention taste I smell bullshit, where has your patriotism been previously buying all that Dutch rhubarb when u could have supported british..a plastic brexit patriot . Suppliers wouldn’t bring to market easier to get lorry full from Holland Don’t suppose you’ve ever tried to buy British tho Just wander round Aldi picking up bargains That’s the German shop with more union jacks than Buckingham palace Excellent stuff. I enjoy how you made up something about someone you don't know. Then got annoyed about it. Here's one for you. You could have bought British before brexit. Like I said ( perhaps your not good at digesting the written word) Suppliers wouldn’t bring to market as easier to buy lorry loads from Holland Yeah I read that. I don't know how that's stopped you buying British prior to brexit. Many of us have been supporting local producers for years and years. " If it’s not available on the market it can’t be bought | |||
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"The world is no much smaller Place now You can go into town and have a meal from dozens of countries around the world. We have become a multicultural country and people around the world live here. Shops sell food from across the globe. And what's the call from brexiteers.. buy British You couldmt make it up It’s not a prison your free to leave at any time Close the door on way out
Ah this old chestnut.
Should all remainers leave the UK? Would this be enforced or voluntary?
Also. You guys voted away the freedom of movement within the EU. To you're telling us to get out, while removing our right to go elsewhere.you don’t have to go to eu more countries that those 27 or perhaps you’d forgotten
I don't meet the criteria to move to most of these places.
Not rich enough.
You're vote landed you stuck with me and other people who you would rather left the UK.
Back to which, genuine question. Should all remainers be exiled from the UK? So only people who support brexit, or didn't vote, stay here.
Not at all but they should get behind
How would you determine which remainers should be booted out?
I’ve never said any should be booted out
However all are free to leave if they so wish
This is going around in circles. You voted away the freedom of movement within the EU. Many of us aren't rich enough to meet the criteria to relocate to another country. Let's knock this on the head now eh?
I am interested in who you think should get out of the UK. And how this would help make a success of Brexit.
I don’t think anyone should get out I think everyone should get behind the majority
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"Another problem with a poorer tasting rhubarb is the amount of sugar it's going to need probably foreign sugar at that to make the rhubarb pie edible, it's all like brexit no clue It’s only poker in looks No body mention taste I smell bullshit, where has your patriotism been previously buying all that Dutch rhubarb when u could have supported british..a plastic brexit patriot . Suppliers wouldn’t bring to market easier to get lorry full from Holland Don’t suppose you’ve ever tried to buy British tho Just wander round Aldi picking up bargains That’s the German shop with more union jacks than Buckingham palace Excellent stuff. I enjoy how you made up something about someone you don't know. Then got annoyed about it. Here's one for you. You could have bought British before brexit. Like I said ( perhaps your not good at digesting the written word) Suppliers wouldn’t bring to market as easier to buy lorry loads from Holland Yeah I read that. I don't know how that's stopped you buying British prior to brexit. Many of us have been supporting local producers for years and years. If it’s not available on the market it can’t be bought " Honestly. You just haven't been looking very hard. Every supermarket I go to has ample British products. Failing that my local greengrocers support local producers. There's always British fruit and veg. So have we nailed it?!? Did you vote for brexit because you weren't looking closely enough for British produce on the shelves? If only we could have sorted that out before the referendum. | |||
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"Another problem with a poorer tasting rhubarb is the amount of sugar it's going to need probably foreign sugar at that to make the rhubarb pie edible, it's all like brexit no clue It’s only poker in looks No body mention taste I smell bullshit, where has your patriotism been previously buying all that Dutch rhubarb when u could have supported british..a plastic brexit patriot . Suppliers wouldn’t bring to market easier to get lorry full from Holland Don’t suppose you’ve ever tried to buy British tho Just wander round Aldi picking up bargains That’s the German shop with more union jacks than Buckingham palace So you've spent your whole life supporting those government subsidized Dutch farmers, well done, dont think the Patriots getting blown up on the beach would have been impressed tho. Plastic brexit patriot." The growers that weren’t there because put out of business by said Dutch growers the Dutch fucked us polish fucked Dutch every new country that joined had lower production cost so fucked those already in | |||
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"The world is no much smaller Place now You can go into town and have a meal from dozens of countries around the world. We have become a multicultural country and people around the world live here. Shops sell food from across the globe. And what's the call from brexiteers.. buy British You couldmt make it up It’s not a prison your free to leave at any time Close the door on way out
Ah this old chestnut.
Should all remainers leave the UK? Would this be enforced or voluntary?
Also. You guys voted away the freedom of movement within the EU. To you're telling us to get out, while removing our right to go elsewhere.you don’t have to go to eu more countries that those 27 or perhaps you’d forgotten
I don't meet the criteria to move to most of these places.
Not rich enough.
You're vote landed you stuck with me and other people who you would rather left the UK.
Back to which, genuine question. Should all remainers be exiled from the UK? So only people who support brexit, or didn't vote, stay here.
Not at all but they should get behind
How would you determine which remainers should be booted out?
I’ve never said any should be booted out
However all are free to leave if they so wish
This is going around in circles. You voted away the freedom of movement within the EU. Many of us aren't rich enough to meet the criteria to relocate to another country. Let's knock this on the head now eh?
I am interested in who you think should get out of the UK. And how this would help make a success of Brexit.
I don’t think anyone should get out I think everyone should get behind the majority
"Can you give us some advice how to get behind the majority. Just to refresh you. The majority didn't vote in the referendum. How do we get behind the non-voters? | |||
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"Another problem with a poorer tasting rhubarb is the amount of sugar it's going to need probably foreign sugar at that to make the rhubarb pie edible, it's all like brexit no clue It’s only poker in looks No body mention taste I smell bullshit, where has your patriotism been previously buying all that Dutch rhubarb when u could have supported british..a plastic brexit patriot . Suppliers wouldn’t bring to market easier to get lorry full from Holland Don’t suppose you’ve ever tried to buy British tho Just wander round Aldi picking up bargains That’s the German shop with more union jacks than Buckingham palace Excellent stuff. I enjoy how you made up something about someone you don't know. Then got annoyed about it. Here's one for you. You could have bought British before brexit. Like I said ( perhaps your not good at digesting the written word) Suppliers wouldn’t bring to market as easier to buy lorry loads from Holland Yeah I read that. I don't know how that's stopped you buying British prior to brexit. Many of us have been supporting local producers for years and years. If it’s not available on the market it can’t be bought Honestly. You just haven't been looking very hard. Every supermarket I go to has ample British products. Failing that my local greengrocers support local producers. There's always British fruit and veg. So have we nailed it?!? Did you vote for brexit because you weren't looking closely enough for British produce on the shelves? If only we could have sorted that out before the referendum." I’ve sold fruit n veg for 35 yrs so I know what’s available and not Try and buy a British tomato | |||
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"Another problem with a poorer tasting rhubarb is the amount of sugar it's going to need probably foreign sugar at that to make the rhubarb pie edible, it's all like brexit no clue It’s only poker in looks No body mention taste I smell bullshit, where has your patriotism been previously buying all that Dutch rhubarb when u could have supported british..a plastic brexit patriot . Suppliers wouldn’t bring to market easier to get lorry full from Holland Don’t suppose you’ve ever tried to buy British tho Just wander round Aldi picking up bargains That’s the German shop with more union jacks than Buckingham palace So you've spent your whole life supporting those government subsidized Dutch farmers, well done, dont think the Patriots getting blown up on the beach would have been impressed tho. Plastic brexit patriot. The growers that weren’t there because put out of business by said Dutch growers the Dutch fucked us polish fucked Dutch every new country that joined had lower production cost so fucked those already in " Isnt that capitalism? | |||
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"Another problem with a poorer tasting rhubarb is the amount of sugar it's going to need probably foreign sugar at that to make the rhubarb pie edible, it's all like brexit no clue It’s only poker in looks No body mention taste I smell bullshit, where has your patriotism been previously buying all that Dutch rhubarb when u could have supported british..a plastic brexit patriot . Suppliers wouldn’t bring to market easier to get lorry full from Holland Don’t suppose you’ve ever tried to buy British tho Just wander round Aldi picking up bargains That’s the German shop with more union jacks than Buckingham palace Excellent stuff. I enjoy how you made up something about someone you don't know. Then got annoyed about it. Here's one for you. You could have bought British before brexit. Like I said ( perhaps your not good at digesting the written word) Suppliers wouldn’t bring to market as easier to buy lorry loads from Holland Yeah I read that. I don't know how that's stopped you buying British prior to brexit. Many of us have been supporting local producers for years and years. If it’s not available on the market it can’t be bought Honestly. You just haven't been looking very hard. Every supermarket I go to has ample British products. Failing that my local greengrocers support local producers. There's always British fruit and veg. So have we nailed it?!? Did you vote for brexit because you weren't looking closely enough for British produce on the shelves? If only we could have sorted that out before the referendum. I’ve sold fruit n veg for 35 yrs so I know what’s available and not Try and buy a British tomato " British tomatoes aren't in season. When they are, my local greengrocers has them. I'm not sure how tomato growing seasons are impacted by brexit. This seems to be a new claim. | |||
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"Another problem with a poorer tasting rhubarb is the amount of sugar it's going to need probably foreign sugar at that to make the rhubarb pie edible, it's all like brexit no clue It’s only poker in looks No body mention taste I smell bullshit, where has your patriotism been previously buying all that Dutch rhubarb when u could have supported british..a plastic brexit patriot . Suppliers wouldn’t bring to market easier to get lorry full from Holland Don’t suppose you’ve ever tried to buy British tho Just wander round Aldi picking up bargains That’s the German shop with more union jacks than Buckingham palace Excellent stuff. I enjoy how you made up something about someone you don't know. Then got annoyed about it. Here's one for you. You could have bought British before brexit. Like I said ( perhaps your not good at digesting the written word) Suppliers wouldn’t bring to market as easier to buy lorry loads from Holland Yeah I read that. I don't know how that's stopped you buying British prior to brexit. Many of us have been supporting local producers for years and years. If it’s not available on the market it can’t be bought Honestly. You just haven't been looking very hard. Every supermarket I go to has ample British products. Failing that my local greengrocers support local producers. There's always British fruit and veg. So have we nailed it?!? Did you vote for brexit because you weren't looking closely enough for British produce on the shelves? If only we could have sorted that out before the referendum. I’ve sold fruit n veg for 35 yrs so I know what’s available and not Try and buy a British tomato British tomatoes aren't in season. When they are, my local greengrocers has them. I'm not sure how tomato growing seasons are impacted by brexit. This seems to be a new claim. " Put virtually all British tomato growers out of business for same reasons guaranteed set prices for products produced | |||
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"Another problem with a poorer tasting rhubarb is the amount of sugar it's going to need probably foreign sugar at that to make the rhubarb pie edible, it's all like brexit no clue It’s only poker in looks No body mention taste I smell bullshit, where has your patriotism been previously buying all that Dutch rhubarb when u could have supported british..a plastic brexit patriot . Suppliers wouldn’t bring to market easier to get lorry full from Holland Don’t suppose you’ve ever tried to buy British tho Just wander round Aldi picking up bargains That’s the German shop with more union jacks than Buckingham palace So you've spent your whole life supporting those government subsidized Dutch farmers, well done, dont think the Patriots getting blown up on the beach would have been impressed tho. Plastic brexit patriot. The growers that weren’t there because put out of business by said Dutch growers the Dutch fucked us polish fucked Dutch every new country that joined had lower production cost so fucked those already in " And yet suddenly a week after Christmas theres British supplies lol a brexiter complaining about people shopping in aldi yet spent a lifetime buying Dutch figure that one out. | |||
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"Another problem with a poorer tasting rhubarb is the amount of sugar it's going to need probably foreign sugar at that to make the rhubarb pie edible, it's all like brexit no clue It’s only poker in looks No body mention taste I smell bullshit, where has your patriotism been previously buying all that Dutch rhubarb when u could have supported british..a plastic brexit patriot . Suppliers wouldn’t bring to market easier to get lorry full from Holland Don’t suppose you’ve ever tried to buy British tho Just wander round Aldi picking up bargains That’s the German shop with more union jacks than Buckingham palace Excellent stuff. I enjoy how you made up something about someone you don't know. Then got annoyed about it. Here's one for you. You could have bought British before brexit. Like I said ( perhaps your not good at digesting the written word) Suppliers wouldn’t bring to market as easier to buy lorry loads from Holland Yeah I read that. I don't know how that's stopped you buying British prior to brexit. Many of us have been supporting local producers for years and years. If it’s not available on the market it can’t be bought Honestly. You just haven't been looking very hard. Every supermarket I go to has ample British products. Failing that my local greengrocers support local producers. There's always British fruit and veg. So have we nailed it?!? Did you vote for brexit because you weren't looking closely enough for British produce on the shelves? If only we could have sorted that out before the referendum. I’ve sold fruit n veg for 35 yrs so I know what’s available and not Try and buy a British tomato British tomatoes aren't in season. When they are, my local greengrocers has them. I'm not sure how tomato growing seasons are impacted by brexit. This seems to be a new claim. Put virtually all British tomato growers out of business for same reasons guaranteed set prices for products produced " Your local green grocer of which I am one deals with the last few small time growers left Supermarkets buy from Holland buy the artic | |||
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"Another problem with a poorer tasting rhubarb is the amount of sugar it's going to need probably foreign sugar at that to make the rhubarb pie edible, it's all like brexit no clue It’s only poker in looks No body mention taste I smell bullshit, where has your patriotism been previously buying all that Dutch rhubarb when u could have supported british..a plastic brexit patriot . Suppliers wouldn’t bring to market easier to get lorry full from Holland Don’t suppose you’ve ever tried to buy British tho Just wander round Aldi picking up bargains That’s the German shop with more union jacks than Buckingham palace So you've spent your whole life supporting those government subsidized Dutch farmers, well done, dont think the Patriots getting blown up on the beach would have been impressed tho. Plastic brexit patriot. The growers that weren’t there because put out of business by said Dutch growers the Dutch fucked us polish fucked Dutch every new country that joined had lower production cost so fucked those already in And yet suddenly a week after Christmas theres British supplies lol a brexiter complaining about people shopping in aldi yet spent a lifetime buying Dutch figure that one out." A small time grower who now has the opportunity due to wholesaler not bringing in Dutch products That’s a light bulb moment for you Your seeing the benefits I believe that’s where I came in took 2 weeks to make a difference to the British grower | |||
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"Another problem with a poorer tasting rhubarb is the amount of sugar it's going to need probably foreign sugar at that to make the rhubarb pie edible, it's all like brexit no clue It’s only poker in looks No body mention taste I smell bullshit, where has your patriotism been previously buying all that Dutch rhubarb when u could have supported british..a plastic brexit patriot . Suppliers wouldn’t bring to market easier to get lorry full from Holland Don’t suppose you’ve ever tried to buy British tho Just wander round Aldi picking up bargains That’s the German shop with more union jacks than Buckingham palace So you've spent your whole life supporting those government subsidized Dutch farmers, well done, dont think the Patriots getting blown up on the beach would have been impressed tho. Plastic brexit patriot. The growers that weren’t there because put out of business by said Dutch growers the Dutch fucked us polish fucked Dutch every new country that joined had lower production cost so fucked those already in And yet suddenly a week after Christmas theres British supplies lol a brexiter complaining about people shopping in aldi yet spent a lifetime buying Dutch figure that one out. A small time grower who now has the opportunity due to wholesaler not bringing in Dutch products That’s a light bulb moment for you Your seeing the benefits I believe that’s where I came in took 2 weeks to make a difference to the British grower " On that note I wish you and yours all the best and enjoy your pies | |||
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"Another problem with a poorer tasting rhubarb is the amount of sugar it's going to need probably foreign sugar at that to make the rhubarb pie edible, it's all like brexit no clue It’s only poker in looks No body mention taste I smell bullshit, where has your patriotism been previously buying all that Dutch rhubarb when u could have supported british..a plastic brexit patriot . Suppliers wouldn’t bring to market easier to get lorry full from Holland Don’t suppose you’ve ever tried to buy British tho Just wander round Aldi picking up bargains That’s the German shop with more union jacks than Buckingham palace So you've spent your whole life supporting those government subsidized Dutch farmers, well done, dont think the Patriots getting blown up on the beach would have been impressed tho. Plastic brexit patriot. The growers that weren’t there because put out of business by said Dutch growers the Dutch fucked us polish fucked Dutch every new country that joined had lower production cost so fucked those already in And yet suddenly a week after Christmas theres British supplies lol a brexiter complaining about people shopping in aldi yet spent a lifetime buying Dutch figure that one out. A small time grower who now has the opportunity due to wholesaler not bringing in Dutch products That’s a light bulb moment for you Your seeing the benefits I believe that’s where I came in took 2 weeks to make a difference to the British grower " So what is the reason the Dutch stopped sending rhubarb may I ask ? | |||
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"Another problem with a poorer tasting rhubarb is the amount of sugar it's going to need probably foreign sugar at that to make the rhubarb pie edible, it's all like brexit no clue It’s only poker in looks No body mention taste I smell bullshit, where has your patriotism been previously buying all that Dutch rhubarb when u could have supported british..a plastic brexit patriot . Suppliers wouldn’t bring to market easier to get lorry full from Holland Don’t suppose you’ve ever tried to buy British tho Just wander round Aldi picking up bargains That’s the German shop with more union jacks than Buckingham palace So you've spent your whole life supporting those government subsidized Dutch farmers, well done, dont think the Patriots getting blown up on the beach would have been impressed tho. Plastic brexit patriot. The growers that weren’t there because put out of business by said Dutch growers the Dutch fucked us polish fucked Dutch every new country that joined had lower production cost so fucked those already in And yet suddenly a week after Christmas theres British supplies lol a brexiter complaining about people shopping in aldi yet spent a lifetime buying Dutch figure that one out. A small time grower who now has the opportunity due to wholesaler not bringing in Dutch products That’s a light bulb moment for you Your seeing the benefits I believe that’s where I came in took 2 weeks to make a difference to the British grower On that note I wish you and yours all the best and enjoy your pies " Pies aren't very British. http://www.piecouncil.org/Events/NationalPieDay/HistoryOfPies#:~:text=Pie%20has%20been%20around%20since,for%20eating%20with%20the%20filling. | |||
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"And can you imagine the Mountains of red tape that we used to do every single day in the EU parliament in: The European Council. The Council of the European Union. The European Parliament. The European Commission. Each with its own subsection of commissions and committees of Presidents and members and journals and minutes and secretariat directives that are printed every day and need to be signed in to each day. The Budget committees. The Oversight committees. The Defence committees. The humanitarian committees. The Court of Justice. The Development partnership. The monetary Union and financial services department. The department for Trade. The Energy committee. Infrastructure. Telecommunications and space. Agriculture and fisheries. Competition. Labour market. Social policy and equality. Regional and local policy. Environment and climate. Education and research. Health care and food safety - Committees & directorate . . . . The Treaty Concordats and additions and rationalisations and presentations to the Parliament for discussion and voting - the voting lobbies . . . and that isn't even close to being what is done each day with direct regard to paperwork and red-tape. It was never just bits of border crossing paperwork that was being talked about. "Lol another confused brexiteer we're talking about reducing uk red tape, we've taken on thousands of civil servants to cope with extra red tape | |||
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"And can you imagine the Mountains of red tape that we used to do every single day in the EU parliament in: The European Council. The Council of the European Union. The European Parliament. The European Commission. Each with its own subsection of commissions and committees of Presidents and members and journals and minutes and secretariat directives that are printed every day and need to be signed in to each day. The Budget committees. The Oversight committees. The Defence committees. The humanitarian committees. The Court of Justice. The Development partnership. The monetary Union and financial services department. The department for Trade. The Energy committee. Infrastructure. Telecommunications and space. Agriculture and fisheries. Competition. Labour market. Social policy and equality. Regional and local policy. Environment and climate. Education and research. Health care and food safety - Committees & directorate . . . . The Treaty Concordats and additions and rationalisations and presentations to the Parliament for discussion and voting - the voting lobbies . . . and that isn't even close to being what is done each day with direct regard to paperwork and red-tape. It was never just bits of border crossing paperwork that was being talked about.
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"And can you imagine the Mountains of red tape that we used to do every single day in the EU parliament in: The European Council. The Council of the European Union. The European Parliament. The European Commission. Each with its own subsection of commissions and committees of Presidents and members and journals and minutes and secretariat directives that are printed every day and need to be signed in to each day. The Budget committees. The Oversight committees. The Defence committees. The humanitarian committees. The Court of Justice. The Development partnership. The monetary Union and financial services department. The department for Trade. The Energy committee. Infrastructure. Telecommunications and space. Agriculture and fisheries. Competition. Labour market. Social policy and equality. Regional and local policy. Environment and climate. Education and research. Health care and food safety - Committees & directorate . . . . The Treaty Concordats and additions and rationalisations and presentations to the Parliament for discussion and voting - the voting lobbies . . . and that isn't even close to being what is done each day with direct regard to paperwork and red-tape. It was never just bits of border crossing paperwork that was being talked about.
Lol another confused brexiteer we're talking about reducing uk red tape, we've taken on thousands of civil servants to cope with extra red tape
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"Yup helps me understand why the Majority voted to Leave and the remoaners just can't accept democracy in action. "But no cut in uk red tape lol. | |||
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"Yup helps me understand why the Majority voted to Leave and the remoaners just can't accept democracy in action.
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"Yup helps me understand why the Majority voted to Leave and the remoaners just can't accept democracy in action.
But no cut in uk red tape lol.
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"it appears from several articles in todays assorted press that an increasing amount of companies are stopping trading between the UK & EU as a result of the extra tariffs, taxes and governmental red tape outweighing the profitability of the transactions rather than failing to be able to understand the process. it seems a shame. I knew a guy taking advantage of cheap export trucking who could buy straw in the U.K. and sell it in The Netherlands undercutting the local supply because the haulage was so cheap compared to domestic trucking in Holland. I wonder if he still has that advantage. I’m thinking probably not. I sell fruit and veg Dutch rhubarb not available now Had to buy English same price poorer quality but beneficial to English growers Already proving the benifits coming to the UK In a small way Bet you'll be over the moon with the hormone and steroid beef as well." Hormones and steroids have been banned in the UK for many years. Animal husbandry in the UK has always been far healthier than its EU counterparts. BSE was labelled a UK only 'disease' but talking to a Min of Ag vet at the time it was also on the continent but they managed to get round the bans etc by saying it was rabies. Animal foodstuffs were imported and exported. I also remember the EU standing by as French farmers hijacked lorries of UK lamb and burning the carcasses in the street as well as pouring tankers of Italian wine down the drain. Unity only seems to work if self interest is put aside or you're not France or Germany. I've stood and watched milk being poured down the drain because of quota's that were introduced but tankers of milk were coming across from Holland and the like. Where's the sense in that? Fishing quotas have also been a huge mistake. Not because of the limits that are put on, conservationally that's a good thing, but throwing dead fish back? Conservation goes out the window. Stupid idea, not very well thought out. As for fruit and veg, we are more than capable of growing a lot of it ourselves. Seasonally. If you want fresh strawberries in December, why shouldn't you pay a premium for them? They've probably been imported from Spain or the like, now the opportunity has been opened up to other countries, perhaps South Africa or the Americas? Further away but competition for the Spanish etc for fruit may actually be a good thing. As for chlorinated chicken, you've been eating food that has been chlorinated for many years. Lettuce for example and I'm sure there will be others. If food is labelled with its origin then surely the housewife or husband can make their own choice on what to buy? | |||
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"it appears from several articles in todays assorted press that an increasing amount of companies are stopping trading between the UK & EU as a result of the extra tariffs, taxes and governmental red tape outweighing the profitability of the transactions rather than failing to be able to understand the process. it seems a shame. I knew a guy taking advantage of cheap export trucking who could buy straw in the U.K. and sell it in The Netherlands undercutting the local supply because the haulage was so cheap compared to domestic trucking in Holland. I wonder if he still has that advantage. I’m thinking probably not. I sell fruit and veg Dutch rhubarb not available now Had to buy English same price poorer quality but beneficial to English growers Already proving the benifits coming to the UK In a small way Bet you'll be over the moon with the hormone and steroid beef as well. Hormones and steroids have been banned in the UK for many years. Animal husbandry in the UK has always been far healthier than its EU counterparts. BSE was labelled a UK only 'disease' but talking to a Min of Ag vet at the time it was also on the continent but they managed to get round the bans etc by saying it was rabies. Animal foodstuffs were imported and exported. I also remember the EU standing by as French farmers hijacked lorries of UK lamb and burning the carcasses in the street as well as pouring tankers of Italian wine down the drain. Unity only seems to work if self interest is put aside or you're not France or Germany. I've stood and watched milk being poured down the drain because of quota's that were introduced but tankers of milk were coming across from Holland and the like. Where's the sense in that? Fishing quotas have also been a huge mistake. Not because of the limits that are put on, conservationally that's a good thing, but throwing dead fish back? Conservation goes out the window. Stupid idea, not very well thought out. As for fruit and veg, we are more than capable of growing a lot of it ourselves. Seasonally. If you want fresh strawberries in December, why shouldn't you pay a premium for them? They've probably been imported from Spain or the like, now the opportunity has been opened up to other countries, perhaps South Africa or the Americas? Further away but competition for the Spanish etc for fruit may actually be a good thing. As for chlorinated chicken, you've been eating food that has been chlorinated for many years. Lettuce for example and I'm sure there will be others. If food is labelled with its origin then surely the housewife or husband can make their own choice on what to buy? " So you're saying that brexit is about helping our the Americas and South Africa? Interesting perspective. I hope you're right that our government doesn't crumble to the US demands to remove food origin labelling. | |||
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"it appears from several articles in todays assorted press that an increasing amount of companies are stopping trading between the UK & EU as a result of the extra tariffs, taxes and governmental red tape outweighing the profitability of the transactions rather than failing to be able to understand the process. it seems a shame. I knew a guy taking advantage of cheap export trucking who could buy straw in the U.K. and sell it in The Netherlands undercutting the local supply because the haulage was so cheap compared to domestic trucking in Holland. I wonder if he still has that advantage. I’m thinking probably not. I sell fruit and veg Dutch rhubarb not available now Had to buy English same price poorer quality but beneficial to English growers Already proving the benifits coming to the UK In a small way Bet you'll be over the moon with the hormone and steroid beef as well. Hormones and steroids have been banned in the UK for many years. Animal husbandry in the UK has always been far healthier than its EU counterparts. BSE was labelled a UK only 'disease' but talking to a Min of Ag vet at the time it was also on the continent but they managed to get round the bans etc by saying it was rabies. Animal foodstuffs were imported and exported. I also remember the EU standing by as French farmers hijacked lorries of UK lamb and burning the carcasses in the street as well as pouring tankers of Italian wine down the drain. Unity only seems to work if self interest is put aside or you're not France or Germany. I've stood and watched milk being poured down the drain because of quota's that were introduced but tankers of milk were coming across from Holland and the like. Where's the sense in that? Fishing quotas have also been a huge mistake. Not because of the limits that are put on, conservationally that's a good thing, but throwing dead fish back? Conservation goes out the window. Stupid idea, not very well thought out. As for fruit and veg, we are more than capable of growing a lot of it ourselves. Seasonally. If you want fresh strawberries in December, why shouldn't you pay a premium for them? They've probably been imported from Spain or the like, now the opportunity has been opened up to other countries, perhaps South Africa or the Americas? Further away but competition for the Spanish etc for fruit may actually be a good thing. As for chlorinated chicken, you've been eating food that has been chlorinated for many years. Lettuce for example and I'm sure there will be others. If food is labelled with its origin then surely the housewife or husband can make their own choice on what to buy? So you're saying that brexit is about helping our the Americas and South Africa? Interesting perspective. I hope you're right that our government doesn't crumble to the US demands to remove food origin labelling. " Deliberately misquoting is a pretty poor show tbh. The post above clearly says opening up the market to competition. It often seems that the remainers are far more inward looking and parochial than the Brexiteers forging the new British Empire. | |||
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"it appears from several articles in todays assorted press that an increasing amount of companies are stopping trading between the UK & EU as a result of the extra tariffs, taxes and governmental red tape outweighing the profitability of the transactions rather than failing to be able to understand the process. it seems a shame. I knew a guy taking advantage of cheap export trucking who could buy straw in the U.K. and sell it in The Netherlands undercutting the local supply because the haulage was so cheap compared to domestic trucking in Holland. I wonder if he still has that advantage. I’m thinking probably not. I sell fruit and veg Dutch rhubarb not available now Had to buy English same price poorer quality but beneficial to English growers Already proving the benifits coming to the UK In a small way Bet you'll be over the moon with the hormone and steroid beef as well. Hormones and steroids have been banned in the UK for many years. Animal husbandry in the UK has always been far healthier than its EU counterparts. BSE was labelled a UK only 'disease' but talking to a Min of Ag vet at the time it was also on the continent but they managed to get round the bans etc by saying it was rabies. Animal foodstuffs were imported and exported. I also remember the EU standing by as French farmers hijacked lorries of UK lamb and burning the carcasses in the street as well as pouring tankers of Italian wine down the drain. Unity only seems to work if self interest is put aside or you're not France or Germany. I've stood and watched milk being poured down the drain because of quota's that were introduced but tankers of milk were coming across from Holland and the like. Where's the sense in that? Fishing quotas have also been a huge mistake. Not because of the limits that are put on, conservationally that's a good thing, but throwing dead fish back? Conservation goes out the window. Stupid idea, not very well thought out. As for fruit and veg, we are more than capable of growing a lot of it ourselves. Seasonally. If you want fresh strawberries in December, why shouldn't you pay a premium for them? They've probably been imported from Spain or the like, now the opportunity has been opened up to other countries, perhaps South Africa or the Americas? Further away but competition for the Spanish etc for fruit may actually be a good thing. As for chlorinated chicken, you've been eating food that has been chlorinated for many years. Lettuce for example and I'm sure there will be others. If food is labelled with its origin then surely the housewife or husband can make their own choice on what to buy? So you're saying that brexit is about helping our the Americas and South Africa? Interesting perspective. I hope you're right that our government doesn't crumble to the US demands to remove food origin labelling. Deliberately misquoting is a pretty poor show tbh. The post above clearly says opening up the market to competition. It often seems that the remainers are far more inward looking and parochial than the Brexiteers forging the new British Empire. " I'm not interested in your bizarre calls for a new British empire. Making imported food more expensive is a weird brexit benefit. | |||
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"Lol a container from Spain probably couple of thousand a container from south America must be 4 or 5 times as expensive. Just so many brexit financial wizards about "That's why everything is so much more expensive when it comes from China. | |||
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That's why everything is so much more expensive when it comes from China. "I don't see much food produce from China in my local shops. What I do see is electrics and other such products made in china which are less expand due to labour and materials being cheaper | |||
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"it appears from several articles in todays assorted press that an increasing amount of companies are stopping trading between the UK & EU as a result of the extra tariffs, taxes and governmental red tape outweighing the profitability of the transactions rather than failing to be able to understand the process. it seems a shame. I knew a guy taking advantage of cheap export trucking who could buy straw in the U.K. and sell it in The Netherlands undercutting the local supply because the haulage was so cheap compared to domestic trucking in Holland. I wonder if he still has that advantage. I’m thinking probably not. I sell fruit and veg Dutch rhubarb not available now Had to buy English same price poorer quality but beneficial to English growers Already proving the benifits coming to the UK In a small way Bet you'll be over the moon with the hormone and steroid beef as well. Hormones and steroids have been banned in the UK for many years. Animal husbandry in the UK has always been far healthier than its EU counterparts. BSE was labelled a UK only 'disease' but talking to a Min of Ag vet at the time it was also on the continent but they managed to get round the bans etc by saying it was rabies. Animal foodstuffs were imported and exported. I also remember the EU standing by as French farmers hijacked lorries of UK lamb and burning the carcasses in the street as well as pouring tankers of Italian wine down the drain. Unity only seems to work if self interest is put aside or you're not France or Germany. I've stood and watched milk being poured down the drain because of quota's that were introduced but tankers of milk were coming across from Holland and the like. Where's the sense in that? Fishing quotas have also been a huge mistake. Not because of the limits that are put on, conservationally that's a good thing, but throwing dead fish back? Conservation goes out the window. Stupid idea, not very well thought out. As for fruit and veg, we are more than capable of growing a lot of it ourselves. Seasonally. If you want fresh strawberries in December, why shouldn't you pay a premium for them? They've probably been imported from Spain or the like, now the opportunity has been opened up to other countries, perhaps South Africa or the Americas? Further away but competition for the Spanish etc for fruit may actually be a good thing. As for chlorinated chicken, you've been eating food that has been chlorinated for many years. Lettuce for example and I'm sure there will be others. If food is labelled with its origin then surely the housewife or husband can make their own choice on what to buy? So you're saying that brexit is about helping our the Americas and South Africa? Interesting perspective. I hope you're right that our government doesn't crumble to the US demands to remove food origin labelling. Deliberately misquoting is a pretty poor show tbh. The post above clearly says opening up the market to competition. It often seems that the remainers are far more inward looking and parochial than the Brexiteers forging the new British Empire. I'm not interested in your bizarre calls for a new British empire. Making imported food more expensive is a weird brexit benefit. " The empire thing is in reverse for now, the UK can't trade freely within it's national borders. | |||
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"Lol a container from Spain probably couple of thousand a container from south America must be 4 or 5 times as expensive. Just so many brexit financial wizards about
That's why everything is so much more expensive when it comes from China.
I don't see much food produce from China in my local shops.
What I do see is electrics and other such products made in china which are less expand due to labour and materials being cheaper "*Less expensive. | |||
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"it appears from several articles in todays assorted press that an increasing amount of companies are stopping trading between the UK & EU as a result of the extra tariffs, taxes and governmental red tape outweighing the profitability of the transactions rather than failing to be able to understand the process. it seems a shame. I knew a guy taking advantage of cheap export trucking who could buy straw in the U.K. and sell it in The Netherlands undercutting the local supply because the haulage was so cheap compared to domestic trucking in Holland. I wonder if he still has that advantage. I’m thinking probably not. I sell fruit and veg Dutch rhubarb not available now Had to buy English same price poorer quality but beneficial to English growers Already proving the benifits coming to the UK In a small way Bet you'll be over the moon with the hormone and steroid beef as well. Hormones and steroids have been banned in the UK for many years. Animal husbandry in the UK has always been far healthier than its EU counterparts. BSE was labelled a UK only 'disease' but talking to a Min of Ag vet at the time it was also on the continent but they managed to get round the bans etc by saying it was rabies. Animal foodstuffs were imported and exported. I also remember the EU standing by as French farmers hijacked lorries of UK lamb and burning the carcasses in the street as well as pouring tankers of Italian wine down the drain. Unity only seems to work if self interest is put aside or you're not France or Germany. I've stood and watched milk being poured down the drain because of quota's that were introduced but tankers of milk were coming across from Holland and the like. Where's the sense in that? Fishing quotas have also been a huge mistake. Not because of the limits that are put on, conservationally that's a good thing, but throwing dead fish back? Conservation goes out the window. Stupid idea, not very well thought out. As for fruit and veg, we are more than capable of growing a lot of it ourselves. Seasonally. If you want fresh strawberries in December, why shouldn't you pay a premium for them? They've probably been imported from Spain or the like, now the opportunity has been opened up to other countries, perhaps South Africa or the Americas? Further away but competition for the Spanish etc for fruit may actually be a good thing. As for chlorinated chicken, you've been eating food that has been chlorinated for many years. Lettuce for example and I'm sure there will be others. If food is labelled with its origin then surely the housewife or husband can make their own choice on what to buy? So you're saying that brexit is about helping our the Americas and South Africa? Interesting perspective. I hope you're right that our government doesn't crumble to the US demands to remove food origin labelling. Deliberately misquoting is a pretty poor show tbh. The post above clearly says opening up the market to competition. It often seems that the remainers are far more inward looking and parochial than the Brexiteers forging the new British Empire. I'm not interested in your bizarre calls for a new British empire. Making imported food more expensive is a weird brexit benefit. The empire thing is in reverse for now, the UK can't trade freely within it's national borders." and 26 NEW world trade agreements already in place. | |||
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"it appears from several articles in todays assorted press that an increasing amount of companies are stopping trading between the UK & EU as a result of the extra tariffs, taxes and governmental red tape outweighing the profitability of the transactions rather than failing to be able to understand the process. it seems a shame. I knew a guy taking advantage of cheap export trucking who could buy straw in the U.K. and sell it in The Netherlands undercutting the local supply because the haulage was so cheap compared to domestic trucking in Holland. I wonder if he still has that advantage. I’m thinking probably not. I sell fruit and veg Dutch rhubarb not available now Had to buy English same price poorer quality but beneficial to English growers Already proving the benifits coming to the UK In a small way Bet you'll be over the moon with the hormone and steroid beef as well. Hormones and steroids have been banned in the UK for many years. Animal husbandry in the UK has always been far healthier than its EU counterparts. BSE was labelled a UK only 'disease' but talking to a Min of Ag vet at the time it was also on the continent but they managed to get round the bans etc by saying it was rabies. Animal foodstuffs were imported and exported. I also remember the EU standing by as French farmers hijacked lorries of UK lamb and burning the carcasses in the street as well as pouring tankers of Italian wine down the drain. Unity only seems to work if self interest is put aside or you're not France or Germany. I've stood and watched milk being poured down the drain because of quota's that were introduced but tankers of milk were coming across from Holland and the like. Where's the sense in that? Fishing quotas have also been a huge mistake. Not because of the limits that are put on, conservationally that's a good thing, but throwing dead fish back? Conservation goes out the window. Stupid idea, not very well thought out. As for fruit and veg, we are more than capable of growing a lot of it ourselves. Seasonally. If you want fresh strawberries in December, why shouldn't you pay a premium for them? They've probably been imported from Spain or the like, now the opportunity has been opened up to other countries, perhaps South Africa or the Americas? Further away but competition for the Spanish etc for fruit may actually be a good thing. As for chlorinated chicken, you've been eating food that has been chlorinated for many years. Lettuce for example and I'm sure there will be others. If food is labelled with its origin then surely the housewife or husband can make their own choice on what to buy? So you're saying that brexit is about helping our the Americas and South Africa? Interesting perspective. I hope you're right that our government doesn't crumble to the US demands to remove food origin labelling. Deliberately misquoting is a pretty poor show tbh. The post above clearly says opening up the market to competition. It often seems that the remainers are far more inward looking and parochial than the Brexiteers forging the new British Empire. I'm not interested in your bizarre calls for a new British empire. Making imported food more expensive is a weird brexit benefit. The empire thing is in reverse for now, the UK can't trade freely within it's national borders. and 26 NEW world trade agreements already in place. " Any that we didn't have as part of the EU? | |||
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"Lol a container from Spain probably couple of thousand a container from south America must be 4 or 5 times as expensive. Just so many brexit financial wizards about
That's why everything is so much more expensive when it comes from China.
I don't see much food produce from China in my local shops.
What I do see is electrics and other such products made in china which are less expand due to labour and materials being cheaper
*Less expensive."In 2018, China's food exports to the United Kingdom amounted to around 451.94 million U.S. dollars, increasing from about 399.22 million U.S. dollars in the previous year. | |||
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"and 26 NEW world trade agreements already in place. " maybe they'll get one with northern ireland sometime | |||
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"Lol a container from Spain probably couple of thousand a container from south America must be 4 or 5 times as expensive. Just so many brexit financial wizards about "You won't find much food in containers. Certainly not perishable food anyway. Frozen yes. A lot comes in on commercial airlines in the hold. No more expensive. Flowers for example, from South Africa or South America will be transported in this way, so I see no reason that perishable food shouldn't either and probably has been. | |||
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"Lol a container from Spain probably couple of thousand a container from south America must be 4 or 5 times as expensive. Just so many brexit financial wizards about
That's why everything is so much more expensive when it comes from China. "Well done you | |||
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"Lol a container from Spain probably couple of thousand a container from south America must be 4 or 5 times as expensive. Just so many brexit financial wizards about
You won't find much food in containers. Certainly not perishable food anyway. Frozen yes. A lot comes in on commercial airlines in the hold. No more expensive. Flowers for example, from South Africa or South America will be transported in this way, so I see no reason that perishable food shouldn't either and probably has been."Sounds expensive and CO2 intensive. | |||
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"it appears from several articles in todays assorted press that an increasing amount of companies are stopping trading between the UK & EU as a result of the extra tariffs, taxes and governmental red tape outweighing the profitability of the transactions rather than failing to be able to understand the process. it seems a shame. I knew a guy taking advantage of cheap export trucking who could buy straw in the U.K. and sell it in The Netherlands undercutting the local supply because the haulage was so cheap compared to domestic trucking in Holland. I wonder if he still has that advantage. I’m thinking probably not. I sell fruit and veg Dutch rhubarb not available now Had to buy English same price poorer quality but beneficial to English growers Already proving the benifits coming to the UK In a small way Bet you'll be over the moon with the hormone and steroid beef as well. Hormones and steroids have been banned in the UK for many years. Animal husbandry in the UK has always been far healthier than its EU counterparts. BSE was labelled a UK only 'disease' but talking to a Min of Ag vet at the time it was also on the continent but they managed to get round the bans etc by saying it was rabies. Animal foodstuffs were imported and exported. I also remember the EU standing by as French farmers hijacked lorries of UK lamb and burning the carcasses in the street as well as pouring tankers of Italian wine down the drain. Unity only seems to work if self interest is put aside or you're not France or Germany. I've stood and watched milk being poured down the drain because of quota's that were introduced but tankers of milk were coming across from Holland and the like. Where's the sense in that? Fishing quotas have also been a huge mistake. Not because of the limits that are put on, conservationally that's a good thing, but throwing dead fish back? Conservation goes out the window. Stupid idea, not very well thought out. As for fruit and veg, we are more than capable of growing a lot of it ourselves. Seasonally. If you want fresh strawberries in December, why shouldn't you pay a premium for them? They've probably been imported from Spain or the like, now the opportunity has been opened up to other countries, perhaps South Africa or the Americas? Further away but competition for the Spanish etc for fruit may actually be a good thing. As for chlorinated chicken, you've been eating food that has been chlorinated for many years. Lettuce for example and I'm sure there will be others. If food is labelled with its origin then surely the housewife or husband can make their own choice on what to buy? So you're saying that brexit is about helping our the Americas and South Africa? Interesting perspective. I hope you're right that our government doesn't crumble to the US demands to remove food origin labelling. Deliberately misquoting is a pretty poor show tbh. The post above clearly says opening up the market to competition. It often seems that the remainers are far more inward looking and parochial than the Brexiteers forging the new British Empire. I'm not interested in your bizarre calls for a new British empire. Making imported food more expensive is a weird brexit benefit. The empire thing is in reverse for now, the UK can't trade freely within it's national borders. and 26 NEW world trade agreements already in place. Any that we didn't have as part of the EU?" Yes. 25 of them. Any many more in various stages of negotiation. The EU is at £640 million continuance deal, we never lost it and it is resigned. Plus many more in late stage negotiations it's all easy to find. | |||
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"Lol a container from Spain probably couple of thousand a container from south America must be 4 or 5 times as expensive. Just so many brexit financial wizards about
That's why everything is so much more expensive when it comes from China.
I don't see much food produce from China in my local shops.
What I do see is electrics and other such products made in china which are less expand due to labour and materials being cheaper
*Less expensive.
In 2018, China's food exports to the United Kingdom amounted to around 451.94 million U.S. dollars, increasing from about 399.22 million U.S. dollars in the previous year."I have no concept of how much this is compared to EU countries. Did your source put it into perspective? | |||
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"it appears from several articles in todays assorted press that an increasing amount of companies are stopping trading between the UK & EU as a result of the extra tariffs, taxes and governmental red tape outweighing the profitability of the transactions rather than failing to be able to understand the process. it seems a shame. I knew a guy taking advantage of cheap export trucking who could buy straw in the U.K. and sell it in The Netherlands undercutting the local supply because the haulage was so cheap compared to domestic trucking in Holland. I wonder if he still has that advantage. I’m thinking probably not. I sell fruit and veg Dutch rhubarb not available now Had to buy English same price poorer quality but beneficial to English growers Already proving the benifits coming to the UK In a small way Bet you'll be over the moon with the hormone and steroid beef as well. Hormones and steroids have been banned in the UK for many years. Animal husbandry in the UK has always been far healthier than its EU counterparts. BSE was labelled a UK only 'disease' but talking to a Min of Ag vet at the time it was also on the continent but they managed to get round the bans etc by saying it was rabies. Animal foodstuffs were imported and exported. I also remember the EU standing by as French farmers hijacked lorries of UK lamb and burning the carcasses in the street as well as pouring tankers of Italian wine down the drain. Unity only seems to work if self interest is put aside or you're not France or Germany. I've stood and watched milk being poured down the drain because of quota's that were introduced but tankers of milk were coming across from Holland and the like. Where's the sense in that? Fishing quotas have also been a huge mistake. Not because of the limits that are put on, conservationally that's a good thing, but throwing dead fish back? Conservation goes out the window. Stupid idea, not very well thought out. As for fruit and veg, we are more than capable of growing a lot of it ourselves. Seasonally. If you want fresh strawberries in December, why shouldn't you pay a premium for them? They've probably been imported from Spain or the like, now the opportunity has been opened up to other countries, perhaps South Africa or the Americas? Further away but competition for the Spanish etc for fruit may actually be a good thing. As for chlorinated chicken, you've been eating food that has been chlorinated for many years. Lettuce for example and I'm sure there will be others. If food is labelled with its origin then surely the housewife or husband can make their own choice on what to buy? So you're saying that brexit is about helping our the Americas and South Africa? Interesting perspective. I hope you're right that our government doesn't crumble to the US demands to remove food origin labelling. Deliberately misquoting is a pretty poor show tbh. The post above clearly says opening up the market to competition. It often seems that the remainers are far more inward looking and parochial than the Brexiteers forging the new British Empire. I'm not interested in your bizarre calls for a new British empire. Making imported food more expensive is a weird brexit benefit. The empire thing is in reverse for now, the UK can't trade freely within it's national borders. and 26 NEW world trade agreements already in place. Any that we didn't have as part of the EU? Yes. 25 of them. Any many more in various stages of negotiation. The EU is at £640 million continuance deal, we never lost it and it is resigned. Plus many more in late stage negotiations it's all easy to find." Can you give an example, so I can look. Because this is news to me. | |||
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"it appears from several articles in todays assorted press that an increasing amount of companies are stopping trading between the UK & EU as a result of the extra tariffs, taxes and governmental red tape outweighing the profitability of the transactions rather than failing to be able to understand the process. it seems a shame. I knew a guy taking advantage of cheap export trucking who could buy straw in the U.K. and sell it in The Netherlands undercutting the local supply because the haulage was so cheap compared to domestic trucking in Holland. I wonder if he still has that advantage. I’m thinking probably not. I sell fruit and veg Dutch rhubarb not available now Had to buy English same price poorer quality but beneficial to English growers Already proving the benifits coming to the UK In a small way Bet you'll be over the moon with the hormone and steroid beef as well. Hormones and steroids have been banned in the UK for many years. Animal husbandry in the UK has always been far healthier than its EU counterparts. BSE was labelled a UK only 'disease' but talking to a Min of Ag vet at the time it was also on the continent but they managed to get round the bans etc by saying it was rabies. Animal foodstuffs were imported and exported. I also remember the EU standing by as French farmers hijacked lorries of UK lamb and burning the carcasses in the street as well as pouring tankers of Italian wine down the drain. Unity only seems to work if self interest is put aside or you're not France or Germany. I've stood and watched milk being poured down the drain because of quota's that were introduced but tankers of milk were coming across from Holland and the like. Where's the sense in that? Fishing quotas have also been a huge mistake. Not because of the limits that are put on, conservationally that's a good thing, but throwing dead fish back? Conservation goes out the window. Stupid idea, not very well thought out. As for fruit and veg, we are more than capable of growing a lot of it ourselves. Seasonally. If you want fresh strawberries in December, why shouldn't you pay a premium for them? They've probably been imported from Spain or the like, now the opportunity has been opened up to other countries, perhaps South Africa or the Americas? Further away but competition for the Spanish etc for fruit may actually be a good thing. As for chlorinated chicken, you've been eating food that has been chlorinated for many years. Lettuce for example and I'm sure there will be others. If food is labelled with its origin then surely the housewife or husband can make their own choice on what to buy? So you're saying that brexit is about helping our the Americas and South Africa? Interesting perspective. I hope you're right that our government doesn't crumble to the US demands to remove food origin labelling. Deliberately misquoting is a pretty poor show tbh. The post above clearly says opening up the market to competition. It often seems that the remainers are far more inward looking and parochial than the Brexiteers forging the new British Empire. I'm not interested in your bizarre calls for a new British empire. Making imported food more expensive is a weird brexit benefit. The empire thing is in reverse for now, the UK can't trade freely within it's national borders. and 26 NEW world trade agreements already in place. Any that we didn't have as part of the EU? Yes. 25 of them. Any many more in various stages of negotiation. The EU is at £640 million continuance deal, we never lost it and it is resigned. Plus many more in late stage negotiations it's all easy to find. Can you give an example, so I can look. Because this is news to me." Geezus Ive have been posting them for days! | |||
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"Lol a container from Spain probably couple of thousand a container from south America must be 4 or 5 times as expensive. Just so many brexit financial wizards about
That's why everything is so much more expensive when it comes from China.
I don't see much food produce from China in my local shops.
What I do see is electrics and other such products made in china which are less expand due to labour and materials being cheaper
*Less expensive.
In 2018, China's food exports to the United Kingdom amounted to around 451.94 million U.S. dollars, increasing from about 399.22 million U.S. dollars in the previous year."So we all spent another 60 or 70 pence each ? Lol | |||
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"it appears from several articles in todays assorted press that an increasing amount of companies are stopping trading between the UK & EU as a result of the extra tariffs, taxes and governmental red tape outweighing the profitability of the transactions rather than failing to be able to understand the process. it seems a shame. I knew a guy taking advantage of cheap export trucking who could buy straw in the U.K. and sell it in The Netherlands undercutting the local supply because the haulage was so cheap compared to domestic trucking in Holland. I wonder if he still has that advantage. I’m thinking probably not. I sell fruit and veg Dutch rhubarb not available now Had to buy English same price poorer quality but beneficial to English growers Already proving the benifits coming to the UK In a small way Bet you'll be over the moon with the hormone and steroid beef as well. Hormones and steroids have been banned in the UK for many years. Animal husbandry in the UK has always been far healthier than its EU counterparts. BSE was labelled a UK only 'disease' but talking to a Min of Ag vet at the time it was also on the continent but they managed to get round the bans etc by saying it was rabies. Animal foodstuffs were imported and exported. I also remember the EU standing by as French farmers hijacked lorries of UK lamb and burning the carcasses in the street as well as pouring tankers of Italian wine down the drain. Unity only seems to work if self interest is put aside or you're not France or Germany. I've stood and watched milk being poured down the drain because of quota's that were introduced but tankers of milk were coming across from Holland and the like. Where's the sense in that? Fishing quotas have also been a huge mistake. Not because of the limits that are put on, conservationally that's a good thing, but throwing dead fish back? Conservation goes out the window. Stupid idea, not very well thought out. As for fruit and veg, we are more than capable of growing a lot of it ourselves. Seasonally. If you want fresh strawberries in December, why shouldn't you pay a premium for them? They've probably been imported from Spain or the like, now the opportunity has been opened up to other countries, perhaps South Africa or the Americas? Further away but competition for the Spanish etc for fruit may actually be a good thing. As for chlorinated chicken, you've been eating food that has been chlorinated for many years. Lettuce for example and I'm sure there will be others. If food is labelled with its origin then surely the housewife or husband can make their own choice on what to buy? So you're saying that brexit is about helping our the Americas and South Africa? Interesting perspective. I hope you're right that our government doesn't crumble to the US demands to remove food origin labelling. Deliberately misquoting is a pretty poor show tbh. The post above clearly says opening up the market to competition. It often seems that the remainers are far more inward looking and parochial than the Brexiteers forging the new British Empire. I'm not interested in your bizarre calls for a new British empire. Making imported food more expensive is a weird brexit benefit. The empire thing is in reverse for now, the UK can't trade freely within it's national borders. and 26 NEW world trade agreements already in place. Any that we didn't have as part of the EU? Yes. 25 of them. Any many more in various stages of negotiation. The EU is at £640 million continuance deal, we never lost it and it is resigned. Plus many more in late stage negotiations it's all easy to find. Can you give an example, so I can look. Because this is news to me. Geezus Ive have been posting them for days! " I don't read all the brexit threads. They're depressing as fuck. But if we do have a trade deal with 25 countries we didn't have deals with as part of the EU. I would gladly read about them. | |||
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"it appears from several articles in todays assorted press that an increasing amount of companies are stopping trading between the UK & EU as a result of the extra tariffs, taxes and governmental red tape outweighing the profitability of the transactions rather than failing to be able to understand the process. it seems a shame. I knew a guy taking advantage of cheap export trucking who could buy straw in the U.K. and sell it in The Netherlands undercutting the local supply because the haulage was so cheap compared to domestic trucking in Holland. I wonder if he still has that advantage. I’m thinking probably not. I sell fruit and veg Dutch rhubarb not available now Had to buy English same price poorer quality but beneficial to English growers Already proving the benifits coming to the UK In a small way Bet you'll be over the moon with the hormone and steroid beef as well. Hormones and steroids have been banned in the UK for many years. Animal husbandry in the UK has always been far healthier than its EU counterparts. BSE was labelled a UK only 'disease' but talking to a Min of Ag vet at the time it was also on the continent but they managed to get round the bans etc by saying it was rabies. Animal foodstuffs were imported and exported. I also remember the EU standing by as French farmers hijacked lorries of UK lamb and burning the carcasses in the street as well as pouring tankers of Italian wine down the drain. Unity only seems to work if self interest is put aside or you're not France or Germany. I've stood and watched milk being poured down the drain because of quota's that were introduced but tankers of milk were coming across from Holland and the like. Where's the sense in that? Fishing quotas have also been a huge mistake. Not because of the limits that are put on, conservationally that's a good thing, but throwing dead fish back? Conservation goes out the window. Stupid idea, not very well thought out. As for fruit and veg, we are more than capable of growing a lot of it ourselves. Seasonally. If you want fresh strawberries in December, why shouldn't you pay a premium for them? They've probably been imported from Spain or the like, now the opportunity has been opened up to other countries, perhaps South Africa or the Americas? Further away but competition for the Spanish etc for fruit may actually be a good thing. As for chlorinated chicken, you've been eating food that has been chlorinated for many years. Lettuce for example and I'm sure there will be others. If food is labelled with its origin then surely the housewife or husband can make their own choice on what to buy? So you're saying that brexit is about helping our the Americas and South Africa? Interesting perspective. I hope you're right that our government doesn't crumble to the US demands to remove food origin labelling. Deliberately misquoting is a pretty poor show tbh. The post above clearly says opening up the market to competition. It often seems that the remainers are far more inward looking and parochial than the Brexiteers forging the new British Empire. I'm not interested in your bizarre calls for a new British empire. Making imported food more expensive is a weird brexit benefit. The empire thing is in reverse for now, the UK can't trade freely within it's national borders. and 26 NEW world trade agreements already in place. Any that we didn't have as part of the EU? Yes. 25 of them. Any many more in various stages of negotiation. The EU is at £640 million continuance deal, we never lost it and it is resigned. Plus many more in late stage negotiations it's all easy to find. Can you give an example, so I can look. Because this is news to me." Late stage negiotions lol may be a while before we see some news . | |||
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"Lol a container from Spain probably couple of thousand a container from south America must be 4 or 5 times as expensive. Just so many brexit financial wizards about
You won't find much food in containers. Certainly not perishable food anyway. Frozen yes. A lot comes in on commercial airlines in the hold. No more expensive. Flowers for example, from South Africa or South America will be transported in this way, so I see no reason that perishable food shouldn't either and probably has been.
Sounds expensive and CO2 intensive. "Not if the flight is already happening due to holiday makers and business or the other reasons people fly across the world every day. A separate argument for me. Holidays abroad are a luxury not a right, which many in this country with their holidays to Spain or Florida, seem to forget. | |||
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"Lol a container from Spain probably couple of thousand a container from south America must be 4 or 5 times as expensive. Just so many brexit financial wizards about
You won't find much food in containers. Certainly not perishable food anyway. Frozen yes. A lot comes in on commercial airlines in the hold. No more expensive. Flowers for example, from South Africa or South America will be transported in this way, so I see no reason that perishable food shouldn't either and probably has been.
Sounds expensive and CO2 intensive.
Not if the flight is already happening due to holiday makers and business or the other reasons people fly across the world every day. A separate argument for me. Holidays abroad are a luxury not a right, which many in this country with their holidays to Spain or Florida, seem to forget.
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"it appears from several articles in todays assorted press that an increasing amount of companies are stopping trading between the UK & EU as a result of the extra tariffs, taxes and governmental red tape outweighing the profitability of the transactions rather than failing to be able to understand the process. it seems a shame. I knew a guy taking advantage of cheap export trucking who could buy straw in the U.K. and sell it in The Netherlands undercutting the local supply because the haulage was so cheap compared to domestic trucking in Holland. I wonder if he still has that advantage. I’m thinking probably not. I sell fruit and veg Dutch rhubarb not available now Had to buy English same price poorer quality but beneficial to English growers Already proving the benifits coming to the UK In a small way Bet you'll be over the moon with the hormone and steroid beef as well. Hormones and steroids have been banned in the UK for many years. Animal husbandry in the UK has always been far healthier than its EU counterparts. BSE was labelled a UK only 'disease' but talking to a Min of Ag vet at the time it was also on the continent but they managed to get round the bans etc by saying it was rabies. Animal foodstuffs were imported and exported. I also remember the EU standing by as French farmers hijacked lorries of UK lamb and burning the carcasses in the street as well as pouring tankers of Italian wine down the drain. Unity only seems to work if self interest is put aside or you're not France or Germany. I've stood and watched milk being poured down the drain because of quota's that were introduced but tankers of milk were coming across from Holland and the like. Where's the sense in that? Fishing quotas have also been a huge mistake. Not because of the limits that are put on, conservationally that's a good thing, but throwing dead fish back? Conservation goes out the window. Stupid idea, not very well thought out. As for fruit and veg, we are more than capable of growing a lot of it ourselves. Seasonally. If you want fresh strawberries in December, why shouldn't you pay a premium for them? They've probably been imported from Spain or the like, now the opportunity has been opened up to other countries, perhaps South Africa or the Americas? Further away but competition for the Spanish etc for fruit may actually be a good thing. As for chlorinated chicken, you've been eating food that has been chlorinated for many years. Lettuce for example and I'm sure there will be others. If food is labelled with its origin then surely the housewife or husband can make their own choice on what to buy? So you're saying that brexit is about helping our the Americas and South Africa? Interesting perspective. I hope you're right that our government doesn't crumble to the US demands to remove food origin labelling. Deliberately misquoting is a pretty poor show tbh. The post above clearly says opening up the market to competition. It often seems that the remainers are far more inward looking and parochial than the Brexiteers forging the new British Empire. I'm not interested in your bizarre calls for a new British empire. Making imported food more expensive is a weird brexit benefit. The empire thing is in reverse for now, the UK can't trade freely within it's national borders. and 26 NEW world trade agreements already in place. Any that we didn't have as part of the EU? Yes. 25 of them. Any many more in various stages of negotiation. The EU is at £640 million continuance deal, we never lost it and it is resigned. Plus many more in late stage negotiations it's all easy to find. Can you give an example, so I can look. Because this is news to me. Late stage negiotions lol may be a while before we see some news ." The sky is falling the sky is falling: The Remoaner: "is a person who wants to change the results of Thursday 23 June 2016 EU Referendum in the UK. Behaviour is typified by muttering under their breath about things that may or may not happen in the future. Oh and taking their ball home, when reminded that the Election was Democratically undertaken. is over, or we now need to get on with it, no matter what residual feelings they have left about how it was so derived." | |||
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"Lol a container from Spain probably couple of thousand a container from south America must be 4 or 5 times as expensive. Just so many brexit financial wizards about
You won't find much food in containers. Certainly not perishable food anyway. Frozen yes. A lot comes in on commercial airlines in the hold. No more expensive. Flowers for example, from South Africa or South America will be transported in this way, so I see no reason that perishable food shouldn't either and probably has been.
Sounds expensive and CO2 intensive.
Not if the flight is already happening due to holiday makers and business or the other reasons people fly across the world every day. A separate argument for me. Holidays abroad are a luxury not a right, which many in this country with their holidays to Spain or Florida, seem to forget.
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"it appears from several articles in todays assorted press that an increasing amount of companies are stopping trading between the UK & EU as a result of the extra tariffs, taxes and governmental red tape outweighing the profitability of the transactions rather than failing to be able to understand the process. it seems a shame. I knew a guy taking advantage of cheap export trucking who could buy straw in the U.K. and sell it in The Netherlands undercutting the local supply because the haulage was so cheap compared to domestic trucking in Holland. I wonder if he still has that advantage. I’m thinking probably not. I sell fruit and veg Dutch rhubarb not available now Had to buy English same price poorer quality but beneficial to English growers Already proving the benifits coming to the UK In a small way Bet you'll be over the moon with the hormone and steroid beef as well. Hormones and steroids have been banned in the UK for many years. Animal husbandry in the UK has always been far healthier than its EU counterparts. BSE was labelled a UK only 'disease' but talking to a Min of Ag vet at the time it was also on the continent but they managed to get round the bans etc by saying it was rabies. Animal foodstuffs were imported and exported. I also remember the EU standing by as French farmers hijacked lorries of UK lamb and burning the carcasses in the street as well as pouring tankers of Italian wine down the drain. Unity only seems to work if self interest is put aside or you're not France or Germany. I've stood and watched milk being poured down the drain because of quota's that were introduced but tankers of milk were coming across from Holland and the like. Where's the sense in that? Fishing quotas have also been a huge mistake. Not because of the limits that are put on, conservationally that's a good thing, but throwing dead fish back? Conservation goes out the window. Stupid idea, not very well thought out. As for fruit and veg, we are more than capable of growing a lot of it ourselves. Seasonally. If you want fresh strawberries in December, why shouldn't you pay a premium for them? They've probably been imported from Spain or the like, now the opportunity has been opened up to other countries, perhaps South Africa or the Americas? Further away but competition for the Spanish etc for fruit may actually be a good thing. As for chlorinated chicken, you've been eating food that has been chlorinated for many years. Lettuce for example and I'm sure there will be others. If food is labelled with its origin then surely the housewife or husband can make their own choice on what to buy? So you're saying that brexit is about helping our the Americas and South Africa? Interesting perspective. I hope you're right that our government doesn't crumble to the US demands to remove food origin labelling. Deliberately misquoting is a pretty poor show tbh. The post above clearly says opening up the market to competition. It often seems that the remainers are far more inward looking and parochial than the Brexiteers forging the new British Empire. I'm not interested in your bizarre calls for a new British empire. Making imported food more expensive is a weird brexit benefit. The empire thing is in reverse for now, the UK can't trade freely within it's national borders. and 26 NEW world trade agreements already in place. Any that we didn't have as part of the EU? Yes. 25 of them. Any many more in various stages of negotiation. The EU is at £640 million continuance deal, we never lost it and it is resigned. Plus many more in late stage negotiations it's all easy to find. Can you give an example, so I can look. Because this is news to me. Late stage negiotions lol may be a while before we see some news . The sky is falling the sky is falling: The Remoaner: "is a person who wants to change the results of Thursday 23 June 2016 EU Referendum in the UK. Behaviour is typified by muttering under their breath about things that may or may not happen in the future. Oh and taking their ball home, when reminded that the Election was Democratically undertaken. is over, or we now need to get on with it, no matter what residual feelings they have left about how it was so derived." " As expected lol...its what I call "the Brexit waffle" | |||
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"it appears from several articles in todays assorted press that an increasing amount of companies are stopping trading between the UK & EU as a result of the extra tariffs, taxes and governmental red tape outweighing the profitability of the transactions rather than failing to be able to understand the process. it seems a shame. I knew a guy taking advantage of cheap export trucking who could buy straw in the U.K. and sell it in The Netherlands undercutting the local supply because the haulage was so cheap compared to domestic trucking in Holland. I wonder if he still has that advantage. I’m thinking probably not. I sell fruit and veg Dutch rhubarb not available now Had to buy English same price poorer quality but beneficial to English growers Already proving the benifits coming to the UK In a small way Bet you'll be over the moon with the hormone and steroid beef as well. Hormones and steroids have been banned in the UK for many years. Animal husbandry in the UK has always been far healthier than its EU counterparts. BSE was labelled a UK only 'disease' but talking to a Min of Ag vet at the time it was also on the continent but they managed to get round the bans etc by saying it was rabies. Animal foodstuffs were imported and exported. I also remember the EU standing by as French farmers hijacked lorries of UK lamb and burning the carcasses in the street as well as pouring tankers of Italian wine down the drain. Unity only seems to work if self interest is put aside or you're not France or Germany. I've stood and watched milk being poured down the drain because of quota's that were introduced but tankers of milk were coming across from Holland and the like. Where's the sense in that? Fishing quotas have also been a huge mistake. Not because of the limits that are put on, conservationally that's a good thing, but throwing dead fish back? Conservation goes out the window. Stupid idea, not very well thought out. As for fruit and veg, we are more than capable of growing a lot of it ourselves. Seasonally. If you want fresh strawberries in December, why shouldn't you pay a premium for them? They've probably been imported from Spain or the like, now the opportunity has been opened up to other countries, perhaps South Africa or the Americas? Further away but competition for the Spanish etc for fruit may actually be a good thing. As for chlorinated chicken, you've been eating food that has been chlorinated for many years. Lettuce for example and I'm sure there will be others. If food is labelled with its origin then surely the housewife or husband can make their own choice on what to buy? So you're saying that brexit is about helping our the Americas and South Africa? Interesting perspective. I hope you're right that our government doesn't crumble to the US demands to remove food origin labelling. Deliberately misquoting is a pretty poor show tbh. The post above clearly says opening up the market to competition. It often seems that the remainers are far more inward looking and parochial than the Brexiteers forging the new British Empire. I'm not interested in your bizarre calls for a new British empire. Making imported food more expensive is a weird brexit benefit. The empire thing is in reverse for now, the UK can't trade freely within it's national borders. and 26 NEW world trade agreements already in place. Any that we didn't have as part of the EU? Yes. 25 of them. Any many more in various stages of negotiation. The EU is at £640 million continuance deal, we never lost it and it is resigned. Plus many more in late stage negotiations it's all easy to find. Can you give an example, so I can look. Because this is news to me. Late stage negiotions lol may be a while before we see some news . The sky is falling the sky is falling: The Remoaner: "is a person who wants to change the results of Thursday 23 June 2016 EU Referendum in the UK. Behaviour is typified by muttering under their breath about things that may or may not happen in the future. Oh and taking their ball home, when reminded that the Election was Democratically undertaken. is over, or we now need to get on with it, no matter what residual feelings they have left about how it was so derived." " I asked for information. And you just throw out lame insults like this. Pointless. | |||
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"Lol a container from Spain probably couple of thousand a container from south America must be 4 or 5 times as expensive. Just so many brexit financial wizards about
You won't find much food in containers. Certainly not perishable food anyway. Frozen yes. A lot comes in on commercial airlines in the hold. No more expensive. Flowers for example, from South Africa or South America will be transported in this way, so I see no reason that perishable food shouldn't either and probably has been.
Sounds expensive and CO2 intensive.
Not if the flight is already happening due to holiday makers and business or the other reasons people fly across the world every day. A separate argument for me. Holidays abroad are a luxury not a right, which many in this country with their holidays to Spain or Florida, seem to forget.
So sticking some frozen veg on a tourist plane?
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"I see the Dutch have stooped so low as to confiscate drivers sandwiches now "Nasty foreigners eh. | |||
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"Lol a container from Spain probably couple of thousand a container from south America must be 4 or 5 times as expensive. Just so many brexit financial wizards about
You won't find much food in containers. Certainly not perishable food anyway. Frozen yes. A lot comes in on commercial airlines in the hold. No more expensive. Flowers for example, from South Africa or South America will be transported in this way, so I see no reason that perishable food shouldn't either and probably has been.
Sounds expensive and CO2 intensive.
Not if the flight is already happening due to holiday makers and business or the other reasons people fly across the world every day. A separate argument for me. Holidays abroad are a luxury not a right, which many in this country with their holidays to Spain or Florida, seem to forget.
So sticking some frozen veg on a tourist plane?
"Do you misunderstand purposely? I didn't say frozen. Read again, you'll see I said perishable. Which already happens! | |||
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"I see the Dutch have stooped so low as to confiscate drivers sandwiches now
Nasty foreigners eh."If the cap fits | |||
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"Lol a container from Spain probably couple of thousand a container from south America must be 4 or 5 times as expensive. Just so many brexit financial wizards about
You won't find much food in containers. Certainly not perishable food anyway. Frozen yes. A lot comes in on commercial airlines in the hold. No more expensive. Flowers for example, from South Africa or South America will be transported in this way, so I see no reason that perishable food shouldn't either and probably has been.
Sounds expensive and CO2 intensive.
Not if the flight is already happening due to holiday makers and business or the other reasons people fly across the world every day. A separate argument for me. Holidays abroad are a luxury not a right, which many in this country with their holidays to Spain or Florida, seem to forget.
So sticking some frozen veg on a tourist plane?
Hope there isn't a pandemic.....oh hold on..."Look in the sky on a clear day and tell me how many contrails you can see. Probably as many as pre-pandemic. | |||
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"Lol a container from Spain probably couple of thousand a container from south America must be 4 or 5 times as expensive. Just so many brexit financial wizards about
You won't find much food in containers. Certainly not perishable food anyway. Frozen yes. A lot comes in on commercial airlines in the hold. No more expensive. Flowers for example, from South Africa or South America will be transported in this way, so I see no reason that perishable food shouldn't either and probably has been.
Sounds expensive and CO2 intensive.
Not if the flight is already happening due to holiday makers and business or the other reasons people fly across the world every day. A separate argument for me. Holidays abroad are a luxury not a right, which many in this country with their holidays to Spain or Florida, seem to forget.
So sticking some frozen veg on a tourist plane?
Do you misunderstand purposely? I didn't say frozen. Read again, you'll see I said perishable. Which already happens! "Okay. Chuck some produce on a tourist flight from South Africa or america? What's the suggestion for the food safety standard issues? And how does this benefit us when we previously had access to produce that didn't have to travel as far? | |||
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