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"https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jan/21/dominic-cummings-thinktank-called-for-end-of-bbc-in-current-form Not beyond the realms of possibility." Just more of their bollocks trying to pretend that the middle ground is left wing. They might succeed. What happened to their initiative to get more right wing comedians on? | |||
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"bbc ended for me end of december when my license ran out.rang them and told them i no longer watching t.v more than welcome to check anytime they like.laptop now connected to t.v anything i want to watch i can do online" Same here back in the summer. I didn't enjoy mainstream tv anyway so no loss whatsoever | |||
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"https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jan/21/dominic-cummings-thinktank-called-for-end-of-bbc-in-current-form Not beyond the realms of possibility." Blimey thats an old article | |||
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"I'd like to know what percentage is new content on the BBC. Their Christmas schedule was appalling. Commercial stations are wiping the floor with the BBC. I can't see it being missed by the younger generation! " Somebody on the radio said the other day that the BBC only makes program's now that people who work for the BBC want to watch | |||
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"I'd like to know what percentage is new content on the BBC. Their Christmas schedule was appalling. Commercial stations are wiping the floor with the BBC. I can't see it being missed by the younger generation! Somebody on the radio said the other day that the BBC only makes program's now that people who work for the BBC want to watch " Must be a lot of birmingham gypsy gangster fans at the beeb then | |||
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"Apparently the Christmas ratings were abysmal with the highest watched program being the queens speech. Apparently 4 million watched it on the BBC. Out of a country of 66 million that is truly dire " that’s how much we care about the queen then lol iv not watched her speech for yrs I also don’t pay the license either | |||
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"I'd like to know what percentage is new content on the BBC. Their Christmas schedule was appalling. Commercial stations are wiping the floor with the BBC. I can't see it being missed by the younger generation! Somebody on the radio said the other day that the BBC only makes program's now that people who work for the BBC want to watch Must be a lot of birmingham gypsy gangster fans at the beeb then" I gave up on them several years ago. Cancelled my licence and took the aerial cable out of the tv. Netflix is cheaper and YouTube is free  | |||
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"Apparently the Christmas ratings were abysmal with the highest watched program being the queens speech. Apparently 4 million watched it on the BBC. Out of a country of 66 million that is truly dire that’s how much we care about the queen then lol iv not watched her speech for yrs I also don’t pay the license either " I know right. And that was the highest rated program on Christmas day. I'd encourage everyone to cancel their licence. If you don't watch live tv then you don't have to pay | |||
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"Apparently the Christmas ratings were abysmal with the highest watched program being the queens speech. Apparently 4 million watched it on the BBC. Out of a country of 66 million that is truly dire that’s how much we care about the queen then lol iv not watched her speech for yrs I also don’t pay the license either I know right. And that was the highest rated program on Christmas day. I'd encourage everyone to cancel their licence. If you don't watch live tv then you don't have to pay " iv got a dodgy stick it as everything sky has and more tbh I don’t know anyone that does pay for it now | |||
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"That's what they have done in America though.. bought up all those radio stations and got their message across. I cant see it here,we are too apathetic. Unless some really bad happened like some huge crack but I cant see that happening. Cough." It nearly happened over Brexit and we tend to follow the States sadly.We did this first befoew the US.Remoaners are like Trump followers believing theres is the only way it all dangerous | |||
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"I'd like to know what percentage is new content on the BBC. Their Christmas schedule was appalling. Commercial stations are wiping the floor with the BBC. I can't see it being missed by the younger generation! Somebody on the radio said the other day that the BBC only makes program's now that people who work for the BBC want to watch " Its funny, I heard someone on the radio say the BBC was brilliant and great value. I guess it wasn’t the same person  | |||
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"I'd like to know what percentage is new content on the BBC. Their Christmas schedule was appalling. Commercial stations are wiping the floor with the BBC. I can't see it being missed by the younger generation! Somebody on the radio said the other day that the BBC only makes program's now that people who work for the BBC want to watch Its funny, I heard someone on the radio say the BBC was brilliant and great value. I guess it wasn’t the same person "Was it on BBC radio by any chance | |||
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"That's what they have done in America though.. bought up all those radio stations and got their message across. I cant see it here,we are too apathetic. Unless some really bad happened like some huge crack but I cant see that happening. Cough.It nearly happened over Brexit and we tend to follow the States sadly.We did this first befoew the US.Remoaners are like Trump followers believing theres is the only way it all dangerous"  | |||
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"I find myself questioning everything they report on too. That's probably why the recent Ofcom report showed them to be least trusted news outlet in the country " Some of their so called journalism is right at the bottom of the pile. I'm sure that the BBC only exists for the BBC. | |||
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"It is interesting how everyone attacks the BBC. It comesfrom the right, it comes from the left. If this is the case it must be getting it right by being impartial to either side "Above, you said you heard someone on the radio defending the BBC. ? But to take your point, using 'everyone' in a sentence is just plain silly. Clearly 'everyone' doesn't hate the BBC. Just as 'everyone' doesn't love the BBC. | |||
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"https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jan/21/dominic-cummings-thinktank-called-for-end-of-bbc-in-current-form Not beyond the realms of possibility. Just more of their bollocks trying to pretend that the middle ground is left wing. They might succeed. What happened to their initiative to get more right wing comedians on?" I think they realised that right wing comedians are very rare and aren’t funny | |||
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" I think they realised that right wing comedians are very rare and aren’t funny "Maybe in the age of everything PC, comedy will just become Dad Jokes. Because comedians are just plain old scared of being Twittered to the end of their careers with one poorly placed joke. | |||
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"https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jan/21/dominic-cummings-thinktank-called-for-end-of-bbc-in-current-form Not beyond the realms of possibility. Just more of their bollocks trying to pretend that the middle ground is left wing. They might succeed. What happened to their initiative to get more right wing comedians on? I think they realised that right wing comedians are very rare and aren’t funny "is there any right wing comedians ? | |||
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"I find myself questioning everything they report on too. That's probably why the recent Ofcom report showed them to be least trusted news outlet in the country " Wonder if that report showed lack of trust from both sides Right and Left wing? If it did then that’s maybe a good thing! | |||
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"That's what they have done in America though.. bought up all those radio stations and got their message across. I cant see it here,we are too apathetic. Unless some really bad happened like some huge crack but I cant see that happening. Cough.It nearly happened over Brexit and we tend to follow the States sadly.We did this first befoew the US.Remoaners are like Trump followers believing theres is the only way it all dangerous"  | |||
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"https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jan/21/dominic-cummings-thinktank-called-for-end-of-bbc-in-current-form Not beyond the realms of possibility. Just more of their bollocks trying to pretend that the middle ground is left wing. They might succeed. What happened to their initiative to get more right wing comedians on? I think they realised that right wing comedians are very rare and aren’t funny is there any right wing comedians ?"Jim Davidson | |||
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"I find myself questioning everything they report on too. That's probably why the recent Ofcom report showed them to be least trusted news outlet in the country Wonder if that report showed lack of trust from both sides Right and Left wing? If it did then that’s maybe a good thing! " That everyone distrusts the BBC? Ok | |||
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" I think they realised that right wing comedians are very rare and aren’t funny
Maybe in the age of everything PC, comedy will just become Dad Jokes. Because comedians are just plain old scared of being Twittered to the end of their careers with one poorly placed joke.
I hope not and it hasn’t happens yet, have you ever seen Frankie Boyle
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"https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jan/21/dominic-cummings-thinktank-called-for-end-of-bbc-in-current-form Not beyond the realms of possibility. Just more of their bollocks trying to pretend that the middle ground is left wing. They might succeed. What happened to their initiative to get more right wing comedians on? I think they realised that right wing comedians are very rare and aren’t funny is there any right wing comedians ?
Jim Davidson "I never really thought as him been a comedian he was shite love chubby brown tho probs because he’s a Teessider lol | |||
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"The bbc is far from perfect. However I'm sure things will improve when its gone and we move to an American type system,where right wing crackpots can spew their vitriol 24 hrs a day and masquerade it as news." My devices have an on/off button! | |||
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"The bbc is far from perfect. However I'm sure things will improve when its gone and we move to an American type system,where right wing crackpots can spew their vitriol 24 hrs a day and masquerade it as news. My devices have an on/off button! "A tactic working wonders in anerica right now. | |||
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"The BBC are a commercial media organisation, here in the UK alone not only do they have the TV & radios stations everyone knows & www.bbc they also own the UKTV network including Dave, Yesterday & Drama amongst others all commercial based. They also own various world BBC TV stations such as BBC Canada either as joint ventures or on their own not to mention Britbox here with ITV, as well as other money generating commercial interest. Yet we are expected to pay the telly tax for a TV station that neither represents us or shows us what we want & at the same time as pushing us their elite bubble dwellers left wing liberal world opinions & views & agendas. Stop paying the telly tax. Xx" Can you provide 5 examples of this left wing bbc bias? Any 5 will do. | |||
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"That's probably why nearly half a million people cancelled their tv licence last year. Or maybe it was because they decided to go after pensioners even though they had promised they wouldn't. Or maybe it was the pay rises they gave to their presenters even as the viewing figures plummeted. I cant imagine how the BBC has made itself so despised " Despised? Why does it still have the highest viewing figures in the UK ? If you don’t want to watch it don’t pay your licence fee and tune into something else | |||
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"https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jan/21/dominic-cummings-thinktank-called-for-end-of-bbc-in-current-form Not beyond the realms of possibility." The Guardians biggest single customer under threat so they do a scare piece on it. Funny how the BBC use a lot of Guardian journalists on their shows xx | |||
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"This has been around the different media site for a few months following the Report: https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/bbc-left-wing-comedy-shows-tim-davie-reactions-conservatives-a9698521.html" The same former tory councillor and tory donor Tim davie? | |||
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"This has been around the different media site for a few months following the Report: https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/bbc-left-wing-comedy-shows-tim-davie-reactions-conservatives-a9698521.html The same former tory councillor and tory donor Tim davie?" Also. if you fancy a longer read . . . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_the_BBC | |||
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"https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jan/21/dominic-cummings-thinktank-called-for-end-of-bbc-in-current-form Not beyond the realms of possibility. The Guardians biggest single customer under threat so they do a scare piece on it. Funny how the BBC use a lot of Guardian journalists on their shows xx " Do they use them more than any other paper? | |||
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"That's probably why nearly half a million people cancelled their tv licence last year. Or maybe it was because they decided to go after pensioners even though they had promised they wouldn't. Or maybe it was the pay rises they gave to their presenters even as the viewing figures plummeted. I cant imagine how the BBC has made itself so despised Despised? Why does it still have the highest viewing figures in the UK ? If you don’t want to watch it don’t pay your licence fee and tune into something else " Right wingers have had it in for them ever since the tories decided it was too critical. | |||
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"That's probably why nearly half a million people cancelled their tv licence last year. Or maybe it was because they decided to go after pensioners even though they had promised they wouldn't. Or maybe it was the pay rises they gave to their presenters even as the viewing figures plummeted. I cant imagine how the BBC has made itself so despised Despised? Why does it still have the highest viewing figures in the UK ? If you don’t want to watch it don’t pay your licence fee and tune into something else " Even if you don’t watch the crap they put on & you watch any live tv you need to pay the telly tax, or granny faces going to prison. Let them stand on their own commercial feet instead of taxing the poor to pay the very average stars £1 million plus wages & encourage tax invasion of employees. What a fricking disgrace xx | |||
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"That's probably why nearly half a million people cancelled their tv licence last year. Or maybe it was because they decided to go after pensioners even though they had promised they wouldn't. Or maybe it was the pay rises they gave to their presenters even as the viewing figures plummeted. I cant imagine how the BBC has made itself so despised Despised? Why does it still have the highest viewing figures in the UK ? If you don’t want to watch it don’t pay your licence fee and tune into something else Even if you don’t watch the crap they put on & you watch any live tv you need to pay the telly tax, or granny faces going to prison. Let them stand on their own commercial feet instead of taxing the poor to pay the very average stars £1 million plus wages & encourage tax invasion of employees. What a fricking disgrace xx" Encourage tax evasion? | |||
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"https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jan/21/dominic-cummings-thinktank-called-for-end-of-bbc-in-current-form Not beyond the realms of possibility. The Guardians biggest single customer under threat so they do a scare piece on it. Funny how the BBC use a lot of Guardian journalists on their shows xx Do they use them more than any other paper?" don’t you mean do they use any other paper, a bit like you it’s their favoured source Lionel c | |||
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"That's probably why nearly half a million people cancelled their tv licence last year. Or maybe it was because they decided to go after pensioners even though they had promised they wouldn't. Or maybe it was the pay rises they gave to their presenters even as the viewing figures plummeted. I cant imagine how the BBC has made itself so despised Despised? Why does it still have the highest viewing figures in the UK ? If you don’t want to watch it don’t pay your licence fee and tune into something else Even if you don’t watch the crap they put on & you watch any live tv you need to pay the telly tax, or granny faces going to prison. Let them stand on their own commercial feet instead of taxing the poor to pay the very average stars £1 million plus wages & encourage tax invasion of employees. What a fricking disgrace xx Encourage tax evasion? " Yes. they did. | |||
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"https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jan/21/dominic-cummings-thinktank-called-for-end-of-bbc-in-current-form Not beyond the realms of possibility. The Guardians biggest single customer under threat so they do a scare piece on it. Funny how the BBC use a lot of Guardian journalists on their shows xx Do they use them more than any other paper? don’t you mean do they use any other paper, a bit like you it’s their favoured source Lionel c" Eh? | |||
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"That's probably why nearly half a million people cancelled their tv licence last year. Or maybe it was because they decided to go after pensioners even though they had promised they wouldn't. Or maybe it was the pay rises they gave to their presenters even as the viewing figures plummeted. I cant imagine how the BBC has made itself so despised Despised? Why does it still have the highest viewing figures in the UK ? If you don’t want to watch it don’t pay your licence fee and tune into something else Even if you don’t watch the crap they put on & you watch any live tv you need to pay the telly tax, or granny faces going to prison. Let them stand on their own commercial feet instead of taxing the poor to pay the very average stars £1 million plus wages & encourage tax invasion of employees. What a fricking disgrace xx Encourage tax evasion? Yes. they did. " When was this? | |||
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"Imagine paying a few quid a month and whinging about being forced to watch the following "crap' Fawlty towers Black adder The office Motd Line of duty Boys from the blackstuff Only fools and horses Peaky blinders Alan partridge Monty python And about a million others. " Most of those are now available on Netflix. | |||
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" & encourage tax invasion of employees. What a fricking disgrace xx Encourage tax evasion? Yes. they did. When was this?" "Off payroll" tax arrangements In October 2012, a Public Accounts Committee report found that the BBC had 25,000 "off payroll" contracts, 13,000 for people who were on air. The contracts enable people to make their own arrangements to pay tax and National Insurance, which could allow them to contribute less than employees on pay-as-you-earn tax. In response, the BBC said many of them were short-term contracts but that it was carrying out a detailed review of tax arrangements." | |||
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"Imagine paying a few quid a month and whinging about being forced to watch the following "crap' Fawlty towers Black adder The office Motd Line of duty Boys from the blackstuff Only fools and horses Peaky blinders Alan partridge Monty python And about a million others. Most of those are now available on Netflix." They would never have existed without the bbc in the 1st place. | |||
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" & encourage tax invasion of employees. What a fricking disgrace xx Encourage tax evasion? Yes. they did. When was this? "Off payroll" tax arrangements In October 2012, a Public Accounts Committee report found that the BBC had 25,000 "off payroll" contracts, 13,000 for people who were on air. The contracts enable people to make their own arrangements to pay tax and National Insurance, which could allow them to contribute less than employees on pay-as-you-earn tax. In response, the BBC said many of them were short-term contracts but that it was carrying out a detailed review of tax arrangements."" If they were carrying out a review how is that encouraging it? | |||
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"That's probably why nearly half a million people cancelled their tv licence last year. Or maybe it was because they decided to go after pensioners even though they had promised they wouldn't. Or maybe it was the pay rises they gave to their presenters even as the viewing figures plummeted. I cant imagine how the BBC has made itself so despised Despised? Why does it still have the highest viewing figures in the UK ? If you don’t want to watch it don’t pay your licence fee and tune into something else " Why does the British Broadcasting Corporation have the highest figures in Britain? Errr I pointed out above that it doesnt but even if it had it would be no surprise given the dominance they have. And as I also mentioned above I don't have a license because I dont need one | |||
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" & encourage tax invasion of employees. What a fricking disgrace xx Encourage tax evasion? Yes. they did. When was this? "Off payroll" tax arrangements In October 2012, a Public Accounts Committee report found that the BBC had 25,000 "off payroll" contracts, 13,000 for people who were on air. The contracts enable people to make their own arrangements to pay tax and National Insurance, which could allow them to contribute less than employees on pay-as-you-earn tax. In response, the BBC said many of them were short-term contracts but that it was carrying out a detailed review of tax arrangements." If they were carrying out a review how is that encouraging it?" Read it properly - they started the review after being caught at it. | |||
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"That's probably why nearly half a million people cancelled their tv licence last year. Or maybe it was because they decided to go after pensioners even though they had promised they wouldn't. Or maybe it was the pay rises they gave to their presenters even as the viewing figures plummeted. I cant imagine how the BBC has made itself so despised Despised? Why does it still have the highest viewing figures in the UK ? If you don’t want to watch it don’t pay your licence fee and tune into something else Even if you don’t watch the crap they put on & you watch any live tv you need to pay the telly tax, or granny faces going to prison. Let them stand on their own commercial feet instead of taxing the poor to pay the very average stars £1 million plus wages & encourage tax invasion of employees. What a fricking disgrace xx Encourage tax evasion? " Yes suggested to people the went self employed to save the employees paying tax, & saved them paying employer NI contributions. You must of heard of it Lionel most have had to pay it back. I love it when a plan falls apart for those rich tax dodging champagne socialist hypocrites lol xxx defund the BBC scrap the telly tax enforcement. Don’t let grandad go to jail just so the rich get richer xx | |||
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" & encourage tax invasion of employees. What a fricking disgrace xx Encourage tax evasion? Yes. they did. When was this? "Off payroll" tax arrangements In October 2012, a Public Accounts Committee report found that the BBC had 25,000 "off payroll" contracts, 13,000 for people who were on air. The contracts enable people to make their own arrangements to pay tax and National Insurance, which could allow them to contribute less than employees on pay-as-you-earn tax. In response, the BBC said many of them were short-term contracts but that it was carrying out a detailed review of tax arrangements." If they were carrying out a review how is that encouraging it? Read it properly - they started the review after being caught at it." Apparently it's not that straightforward. They employed a company to sort out the tax affairs. This meant the employees were actually responsible for their own affairs. | |||
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"That's probably why nearly half a million people cancelled their tv licence last year. Or maybe it was because they decided to go after pensioners even though they had promised they wouldn't. Or maybe it was the pay rises they gave to their presenters even as the viewing figures plummeted. I cant imagine how the BBC has made itself so despised Despised? Why does it still have the highest viewing figures in the UK ? If you don’t want to watch it don’t pay your licence fee and tune into something else Even if you don’t watch the crap they put on & you watch any live tv you need to pay the telly tax, or granny faces going to prison. Let them stand on their own commercial feet instead of taxing the poor to pay the very average stars £1 million plus wages & encourage tax invasion of employees. What a fricking disgrace xx Encourage tax evasion? Yes suggested to people the went self employed to save the employees paying tax, & saved them paying employer NI contributions. You must of heard of it Lionel most have had to pay it back. I love it when a plan falls apart for those rich tax dodging champagne socialist hypocrites lol xxx defund the BBC scrap the telly tax enforcement. Don’t let grandad go to jail just so the rich get richer xx " So those 5 left wing examples? | |||
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"That's probably why nearly half a million people cancelled their tv licence last year. Or maybe it was because they decided to go after pensioners even though they had promised they wouldn't. Or maybe it was the pay rises they gave to their presenters even as the viewing figures plummeted. I cant imagine how the BBC has made itself so despised Despised? Why does it still have the highest viewing figures in the UK ? If you don’t want to watch it don’t pay your licence fee and tune into something else Even if you don’t watch the crap they put on & you watch any live tv you need to pay the telly tax, or granny faces going to prison. Let them stand on their own commercial feet instead of taxing the poor to pay the very average stars £1 million plus wages & encourage tax invasion of employees. What a fricking disgrace xx Encourage tax evasion? Yes suggested to people the went self employed to save the employees paying tax, & saved them paying employer NI contributions. You must of heard of it Lionel most have had to pay it back. I love it when a plan falls apart for those rich tax dodging champagne socialist hypocrites lol xxx defund the BBC scrap the telly tax enforcement. Don’t let grandad go to jail just so the rich get richer xx So those 5 left wing examples?" Lionel I thought you believed the BBC were too right wing? Why would you defend them if you really thought that? | |||
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"That's probably why nearly half a million people cancelled their tv licence last year. Or maybe it was because they decided to go after pensioners even though they had promised they wouldn't. Or maybe it was the pay rises they gave to their presenters even as the viewing figures plummeted. I cant imagine how the BBC has made itself so despised Despised? Why does it still have the highest viewing figures in the UK ? If you don’t want to watch it don’t pay your licence fee and tune into something else Even if you don’t watch the crap they put on & you watch any live tv you need to pay the telly tax, or granny faces going to prison. Let them stand on their own commercial feet instead of taxing the poor to pay the very average stars £1 million plus wages & encourage tax invasion of employees. What a fricking disgrace xx Encourage tax evasion? Yes suggested to people the went self employed to save the employees paying tax, & saved them paying employer NI contributions. You must of heard of it Lionel most have had to pay it back. I love it when a plan falls apart for those rich tax dodging champagne socialist hypocrites lol xxx defund the BBC scrap the telly tax enforcement. Don’t let grandad go to jail just so the rich get richer xx So those 5 left wing examples? Lionel I thought you believed the BBC were too right wing? Why would you defend them if you really thought that?" I'm just waiting to hear these numerous examples of blatant left wing bias. | |||
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"That's probably why nearly half a million people cancelled their tv licence last year. Or maybe it was because they decided to go after pensioners even though they had promised they wouldn't. Or maybe it was the pay rises they gave to their presenters even as the viewing figures plummeted. I cant imagine how the BBC has made itself so despised Despised? Why does it still have the highest viewing figures in the UK ? If you don’t want to watch it don’t pay your licence fee and tune into something else Even if you don’t watch the crap they put on & you watch any live tv you need to pay the telly tax, or granny faces going to prison. Let them stand on their own commercial feet instead of taxing the poor to pay the very average stars £1 million plus wages & encourage tax invasion of employees. What a fricking disgrace xx Encourage tax evasion? Yes suggested to people the went self employed to save the employees paying tax, & saved them paying employer NI contributions. You must of heard of it Lionel most have had to pay it back. I love it when a plan falls apart for those rich tax dodging champagne socialist hypocrites lol xxx defund the BBC scrap the telly tax enforcement. Don’t let grandad go to jail just so the rich get richer xx So those 5 left wing examples? Lionel I thought you believed the BBC were too right wing? Why would you defend them if you really thought that? I'm just waiting to hear these numerous examples of blatant left wing bias." If YOU believe that the BBC are impartial then anybody who knows you would question that | |||
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"That's probably why nearly half a million people cancelled their tv licence last year. Or maybe it was because they decided to go after pensioners even though they had promised they wouldn't. Or maybe it was the pay rises they gave to their presenters even as the viewing figures plummeted. I cant imagine how the BBC has made itself so despised Despised? Why does it still have the highest viewing figures in the UK ? If you don’t want to watch it don’t pay your licence fee and tune into something else Even if you don’t watch the crap they put on & you watch any live tv you need to pay the telly tax, or granny faces going to prison. Let them stand on their own commercial feet instead of taxing the poor to pay the very average stars £1 million plus wages & encourage tax invasion of employees. What a fricking disgrace xx Encourage tax evasion? Yes suggested to people the went self employed to save the employees paying tax, & saved them paying employer NI contributions. You must of heard of it Lionel most have had to pay it back. I love it when a plan falls apart for those rich tax dodging champagne socialist hypocrites lol xxx defund the BBC scrap the telly tax enforcement. Don’t let grandad go to jail just so the rich get richer xx So those 5 left wing examples? Lionel I thought you believed the BBC were too right wing? Why would you defend them if you really thought that? I'm just waiting to hear these numerous examples of blatant left wing bias. If YOU believe that the BBC are impartial then anybody who knows you would question that " I think they try to be but I'd just like some examples of this so called bias. Seeing as the dg is a tory donor. | |||
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"That's probably why nearly half a million people cancelled their tv licence last year. Or maybe it was because they decided to go after pensioners even though they had promised they wouldn't. Or maybe it was the pay rises they gave to their presenters even as the viewing figures plummeted. I cant imagine how the BBC has made itself so despised Despised? Why does it still have the highest viewing figures in the UK ? If you don’t want to watch it don’t pay your licence fee and tune into something else Even if you don’t watch the crap they put on & you watch any live tv you need to pay the telly tax, or granny faces going to prison. Let them stand on their own commercial feet instead of taxing the poor to pay the very average stars £1 million plus wages & encourage tax invasion of employees. What a fricking disgrace xx Encourage tax evasion? Yes suggested to people the went self employed to save the employees paying tax, & saved them paying employer NI contributions. You must of heard of it Lionel most have had to pay it back. I love it when a plan falls apart for those rich tax dodging champagne socialist hypocrites lol xxx defund the BBC scrap the telly tax enforcement. Don’t let grandad go to jail just so the rich get richer xx So those 5 left wing examples?" someone else put links up before, I don’t want to be accused of repeating stuff, I’m not the BBC x | |||
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"That's probably why nearly half a million people cancelled their tv licence last year. Or maybe it was because they decided to go after pensioners even though they had promised they wouldn't. Or maybe it was the pay rises they gave to their presenters even as the viewing figures plummeted. I cant imagine how the BBC has made itself so despised Despised? Why does it still have the highest viewing figures in the UK ? If you don’t want to watch it don’t pay your licence fee and tune into something else Even if you don’t watch the crap they put on & you watch any live tv you need to pay the telly tax, or granny faces going to prison. Let them stand on their own commercial feet instead of taxing the poor to pay the very average stars £1 million plus wages & encourage tax invasion of employees. What a fricking disgrace xx Encourage tax evasion? Yes suggested to people the went self employed to save the employees paying tax, & saved them paying employer NI contributions. You must of heard of it Lionel most have had to pay it back. I love it when a plan falls apart for those rich tax dodging champagne socialist hypocrites lol xxx defund the BBC scrap the telly tax enforcement. Don’t let grandad go to jail just so the rich get richer xx So those 5 left wing examples? someone else put links up before, I don’t want to be accused of repeating stuff, I’m not the BBC x"
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" & encourage tax invasion of employees. What a fricking disgrace xx Encourage tax evasion? Yes. they did. When was this? "Off payroll" tax arrangements In October 2012, a Public Accounts Committee report found that the BBC had 25,000 "off payroll" contracts, 13,000 for people who were on air. The contracts enable people to make their own arrangements to pay tax and National Insurance, which could allow them to contribute less than employees on pay-as-you-earn tax. In response, the BBC said many of them were short-term contracts but that it was carrying out a detailed review of tax arrangements." If they were carrying out a review how is that encouraging it? Read it properly - they started the review after being caught at it. Apparently it's not that straightforward. They employed a company to sort out the tax affairs. This meant the employees were actually responsible for their own affairs." What the BBC actually did was to ‘encourage’ their presenters etc to set up personal service companies that would employ said presenters and the BBC would then deal with these companies direct. The BBC would then not have to deal with PAYE and would save on the employers NIC. The benefit to the staff would be that they would take a minimal salary out of the company and the balance in dividends, which is both tax and NIC beneficial to the employee. There were also a lot more employees who were employed as freelancers and there | |||
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"That's probably why nearly half a million people cancelled their tv licence last year. Or maybe it was because they decided to go after pensioners even though they had promised they wouldn't. Or maybe it was the pay rises they gave to their presenters even as the viewing figures plummeted. I cant imagine how the BBC has made itself so despised Despised? Why does it still have the highest viewing figures in the UK ? If you don’t want to watch it don’t pay your licence fee and tune into something else Even if you don’t watch the crap they put on & you watch any live tv you need to pay the telly tax, or granny faces going to prison. Let them stand on their own commercial feet instead of taxing the poor to pay the very average stars £1 million plus wages & encourage tax invasion of employees. What a fricking disgrace xx Encourage tax evasion? Yes suggested to people the went self employed to save the employees paying tax, & saved them paying employer NI contributions. You must of heard of it Lionel most have had to pay it back. I love it when a plan falls apart for those rich tax dodging champagne socialist hypocrites lol xxx defund the BBC scrap the telly tax enforcement. Don’t let grandad go to jail just so the rich get richer xx So those 5 left wing examples? someone else put links up before, I don’t want to be accused of repeating stuff, I’m not the BBC x
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"https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jan/21/dominic-cummings-thinktank-called-for-end-of-bbc-in-current-form Not beyond the realms of possibility." It'll have to change, eventually. Roughly 2/3 of people don't want to pay the licence fee - and that's unsustainable. Personally, I get a lot out of the BBC; particularly their radio content - but the time is, inevitably, going to come when you pay for what you want, from what's on offer. No licence fee will, logically, reduce content - but it doesn't have to reduce quality. If, as I suspect, it goes subscription - available all over the world - I reckon it'll survive. | |||
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" & encourage tax invasion of employees. What a fricking disgrace xx Encourage tax evasion? Yes. they did. When was this? "Off payroll" tax arrangements In October 2012, a Public Accounts Committee report found that the BBC had 25,000 "off payroll" contracts, 13,000 for people who were on air. The contracts enable people to make their own arrangements to pay tax and National Insurance, which could allow them to contribute less than employees on pay-as-you-earn tax. In response, the BBC said many of them were short-term contracts but that it was carrying out a detailed review of tax arrangements." If they were carrying out a review how is that encouraging it? Read it properly - they started the review after being caught at it. Apparently it's not that straightforward. They employed a company to sort out the tax affairs. This meant the employees were actually responsible for their own affairs." Lionel. They encouraged staff 25 thousand of them, NOT to be on the regular pay-as-you-earn system that most employers pay their tax and NI through. This means that the BBC essential deprived HMRC of revenue. | |||
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" & encourage tax invasion of employees. What a fricking disgrace xx Encourage tax evasion? Yes. they did. When was this? "Off payroll" tax arrangements In October 2012, a Public Accounts Committee report found that the BBC had 25,000 "off payroll" contracts, 13,000 for people who were on air. The contracts enable people to make their own arrangements to pay tax and National Insurance, which could allow them to contribute less than employees on pay-as-you-earn tax. In response, the BBC said many of them were short-term contracts but that it was carrying out a detailed review of tax arrangements." If they were carrying out a review how is that encouraging it? Read it properly - they started the review after being caught at it. Apparently it's not that straightforward. They employed a company to sort out the tax affairs. This meant the employees were actually responsible for their own affairs. What the BBC actually did was to ‘encourage’ their presenters etc to set up personal service companies that would employ said presenters and the BBC would then deal with these companies direct. The BBC would then not have to deal with PAYE and would save on the employers NIC. The benefit to the staff would be that they would take a minimal salary out of the company and the balance in dividends, which is both tax and NIC beneficial to the employee. There were also a lot more employees who were employed as freelancers and there " Oops, pressed post message to soon! Freelancers and it is thought that they may have been involved in loan based tax avoidance schemes. BBC has set aside £40 Million in its accounts for tax and litigation provisions. | |||
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"That's probably why nearly half a million people cancelled their tv licence last year. Or maybe it was because they decided to go after pensioners even though they had promised they wouldn't. Or maybe it was the pay rises they gave to their presenters even as the viewing figures plummeted. I cant imagine how the BBC has made itself so despised Despised? Why does it still have the highest viewing figures in the UK ? If you don’t want to watch it don’t pay your licence fee and tune into something else Even if you don’t watch the crap they put on & you watch any live tv you need to pay the telly tax, or granny faces going to prison. Let them stand on their own commercial feet instead of taxing the poor to pay the very average stars £1 million plus wages & encourage tax invasion of employees. What a fricking disgrace xx Encourage tax evasion? Yes suggested to people the went self employed to save the employees paying tax, & saved them paying employer NI contributions. You must of heard of it Lionel most have had to pay it back. I love it when a plan falls apart for those rich tax dodging champagne socialist hypocrites lol xxx defund the BBC scrap the telly tax enforcement. Don’t let grandad go to jail just so the rich get richer xx So those 5 left wing examples? someone else put links up before, I don’t want to be accused of repeating stuff, I’m not the BBC x
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" & encourage tax invasion of employees. What a fricking disgrace xx Encourage tax evasion? Yes. they did. When was this? "Off payroll" tax arrangements In October 2012, a Public Accounts Committee report found that the BBC had 25,000 "off payroll" contracts, 13,000 for people who were on air. The contracts enable people to make their own arrangements to pay tax and National Insurance, which could allow them to contribute less than employees on pay-as-you-earn tax. In response, the BBC said many of them were short-term contracts but that it was carrying out a detailed review of tax arrangements." If they were carrying out a review how is that encouraging it? Read it properly - they started the review after being caught at it. Apparently it's not that straightforward. They employed a company to sort out the tax affairs. This meant the employees were actually responsible for their own affairs. Lionel. They encouraged staff 25 thousand of them, NOT to be on the regular pay-as-you-earn system that most employers pay their tax and NI through. This means that the BBC essential deprived HMRC of revenue. " I'm not gonna excuse highly paid people and who they work for to avoid paying tax. They are certainly not the only ones but it's no excuse. | |||
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"That's probably why nearly half a million people cancelled their tv licence last year. Or maybe it was because they decided to go after pensioners even though they had promised they wouldn't. Or maybe it was the pay rises they gave to their presenters even as the viewing figures plummeted. I cant imagine how the BBC has made itself so despised Despised? Why does it still have the highest viewing figures in the UK ? If you don’t want to watch it don’t pay your licence fee and tune into something else Even if you don’t watch the crap they put on & you watch any live tv you need to pay the telly tax, or granny faces going to prison. Let them stand on their own commercial feet instead of taxing the poor to pay the very average stars £1 million plus wages & encourage tax invasion of employees. What a fricking disgrace xx Encourage tax evasion? Yes suggested to people the went self employed to save the employees paying tax, & saved them paying employer NI contributions. You must of heard of it Lionel most have had to pay it back. I love it when a plan falls apart for those rich tax dodging champagne socialist hypocrites lol xxx defund the BBC scrap the telly tax enforcement. Don’t let grandad go to jail just so the rich get richer xx So those 5 left wing examples? someone else put links up before, I don’t want to be accused of repeating stuff, I’m not the BBC x
Obvs I want grandma & grandpa to put their heating on in there house not in Gary the goal hangers house. Talking of which I’d sooner have Ian Wright on MOTD as the main host."https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-49469337 | |||
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" & encourage tax invasion of employees. What a fricking disgrace xx Encourage tax evasion? Yes. they did. When was this? "Off payroll" tax arrangements In October 2012, a Public Accounts Committee report found that the BBC had 25,000 "off payroll" contracts, 13,000 for people who were on air. The contracts enable people to make their own arrangements to pay tax and National Insurance, which could allow them to contribute less than employees on pay-as-you-earn tax. In response, the BBC said many of them were short-term contracts but that it was carrying out a detailed review of tax arrangements." If they were carrying out a review how is that encouraging it? Read it properly - they started the review after being caught at it. Apparently it's not that straightforward. They employed a company to sort out the tax affairs. This meant the employees were actually responsible for their own affairs. Lionel. They encouraged staff 25 thousand of them, NOT to be on the regular pay-as-you-earn system that most employers pay their tax and NI through. This means that the BBC essential deprived HMRC of revenue. I'm not gonna excuse highly paid people and who they work for to avoid paying tax. They are certainly not the only ones but it's no excuse. "  | |||
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"4th Nov 2019 boris johnson pledges to keep licences free for over 75s. Shocked I am..I tells you." The government allowed the BBC to increase the licence fee in line with inflation if they promised to scrap it for pensioners. The BBC went back on that promise in August 2020. Still I'm sure Gary Lineker needs the money more than my grandmother | |||
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"4th Nov 2019 boris johnson pledges to keep licences free for over 75s. Shocked I am..I tells you. The government allowed the BBC to increase the licence fee in line with inflation if they promised to scrap it for pensioners. The BBC went back on that promise in August 2020. Still I'm sure Gary Lineker needs the money more than my grandmother " There are many more problems for or with the BBC they really aren’t representative of the general public, there does seem to be a big part of the license fee payer under represented in programming, employment & issues/agendas covered.x | |||
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"4th Nov 2019 boris johnson pledges to keep licences free for over 75s. Shocked I am..I tells you. The government allowed the BBC to increase the licence fee in line with inflation if they promised to scrap it for pensioners. The BBC went back on that promise in August 2020. Still I'm sure Gary Lineker needs the money more than my grandmother " The BBC agreed to fund free TV licences in 2015, in exchange for the Government allowing them to charge a licence fee for online services such as Iplayer. Over 75s on pension credits etc still qualify for a free tv licence. | |||
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"4th Nov 2019 boris johnson pledges to keep licences free for over 75s. Shocked I am..I tells you. The government allowed the BBC to increase the licence fee in line with inflation if they promised to scrap it for pensioners. The BBC went back on that promise in August 2020. Still I'm sure Gary Lineker needs the money more than my grandmother The BBC agreed to fund free TV licences in 2015, in exchange for the Government allowing them to charge a licence fee for online services such as Iplayer. Over 75s on pension credits etc still qualify for a free tv licence. " But how many will claim it, as I’ve said the BBC have a commercial tv service in the UK called UKTV they are using there strength to force out free competition whilst extorting the telly tax out of the people. No taxation without representation is what I say. Why should granny have to wait to go to jail to watch tv for free x | |||
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"It is interesting how everyone attacks the BBC. It comesfrom the right, it comes from the left. If this is the case it must be getting it right by being impartial to either side
Above, you said you heard someone on the radio defending the BBC. ?
But to take your point, using 'everyone' in a sentence is just plain silly. Clearly 'everyone' doesn't hate the BBC. Just as 'everyone' doesn't love the BBC."You make a good point, I was using hyperbole to express how ridiculous these comments become | |||
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"It is interesting how everyone attacks the BBC. It comesfrom the right, it comes from the left. If this is the case it must be getting it right by being impartial to either side
Above, you said you heard someone on the radio defending the BBC. ?
But to take your point, using 'everyone' in a sentence is just plain silly. Clearly 'everyone' doesn't hate the BBC. Just as 'everyone' doesn't love the BBC.
You make a good point, I was using hyperbole to express how ridiculous these comments become "https://www.sundaypost.com/fp/children-and-greed-charitys-average-salary-hits-42000/amp/ | |||
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"The remainers were like Trump supporter's, couldn't accept the result of a democratic vote. It makes me laugh to see the likes of Lionel condemning the scenes in America when he's been going on for year's that we shouldn't leave the EU even though the majority voted for it in the referendum. " Remind me again of the time I armed myself and mobbed up to begin an armed insurrection of parliament? My minds gone blank. Cheers  | |||
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"It is interesting how everyone attacks the BBC. It comesfrom the right, it comes from the left. If this is the case it must be getting it right by being impartial to either side
Above, you said you heard someone on the radio defending the BBC. ?
But to take your point, using 'everyone' in a sentence is just plain silly. Clearly 'everyone' doesn't hate the BBC. Just as 'everyone' doesn't love the BBC.
You make a good point, I was using hyperbole to express how ridiculous these comments become
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"The remainers were like Trump supporter's, couldn't accept the result of a democratic vote. It makes me laugh to see the likes of Lionel condemning the scenes in America when he's been going on for year's that we shouldn't leave the EU even though the majority voted for it in the referendum. Remind me again of the time I armed myself and mobbed up to begin an armed insurrection of parliament? My minds gone blank. Cheers "october I seen ya | |||
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"The remainers were like Trump supporter's, couldn't accept the result of a democratic vote. It makes me laugh to see the likes of Lionel condemning the scenes in America when he's been going on for year's that we shouldn't leave the EU even though the majority voted for it in the referendum. Remind me again of the time I armed myself and mobbed up to begin an armed insurrection of parliament? My minds gone blank. Cheers october I seen ya " | |||
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"The remainers were like Trump supporter's, couldn't accept the result of a democratic vote. It makes me laugh to see the likes of Lionel condemning the scenes in America when he's been going on for year's that we shouldn't leave the EU even though the majority voted for it in the referendum. " The Trump supporters are far more likely to be like Brexiteers to be fair, They were both targeted by Cambridge Analytica and Steve Bannon, they used Brexit as a dry run for the 2016 election so it likely they targeted the same sort of people! | |||
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"The bbc is far from perfect. However I'm sure things will improve when its gone and we move to an American type system,where right wing crackpots can spew their vitriol 24 hrs a day and masquerade it as news." There aren’t any right wing news outlets in America. | |||
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"The bbc is far from perfect. However I'm sure things will improve when its gone and we move to an American type system,where right wing crackpots can spew their vitriol 24 hrs a day and masquerade it as news. There aren’t any right wing news outlets in America." Is this a joke? | |||
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"The bbc is far from perfect. However I'm sure things will improve when its gone and we move to an American type system,where right wing crackpots can spew their vitriol 24 hrs a day and masquerade it as news. There aren’t any right wing news outlets in America." Fox, Newsmaxx, OAN, Breitbart, redstate, daily caller.....I could go on. | |||
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"The bbc is far from perfect. However I'm sure things will improve when its gone and we move to an American type system,where right wing crackpots can spew their vitriol 24 hrs a day and masquerade it as news. There aren’t any right wing news outlets in America."
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"That's probably why nearly half a million people cancelled their tv licence last year. Or maybe it was because they decided to go after pensioners even though they had promised they wouldn't. Or maybe it was the pay rises they gave to their presenters even as the viewing figures plummeted. I cant imagine how the BBC has made itself so despised " The government pulled the plug on those licences not the bbc | |||
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"It is interesting how everyone attacks the BBC. It comesfrom the right, it comes from the left. If this is the case it must be getting it right by being impartial to either side" That's not always the case. The media love BBC bashing stories because the big media bosses such as Murdoch would love the Beeb to go. But we'd really miss it: the standards would soon slip. | |||
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"The remainers were like Trump supporter's, couldn't accept the result of a democratic vote. It makes me laugh to see the likes of Lionel condemning the scenes in America when he's been going on for year's that we shouldn't leave the EU even though the majority voted for it in the referendum. The Trump supporters are far more likely to be like Brexiteers to be fair, They were both targeted by Cambridge Analytica and Steve Bannon, they used Brexit as a dry run for the 2016 election so it likely they targeted the same sort of people!" What sort of people? | |||
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"The remainers were like Trump supporter's, couldn't accept the result of a democratic vote. It makes me laugh to see the likes of Lionel condemning the scenes in America when he's been going on for year's that we shouldn't leave the EU even though the majority voted for it in the referendum. The Trump supporters are far more likely to be like Brexiteers to be fair, They were both targeted by Cambridge Analytica and Steve Bannon, they used Brexit as a dry run for the 2016 election so it likely they targeted the same sort of people! What sort of people? " Susceptible to misinform. | |||
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"The remainers were like Trump supporter's, couldn't accept the result of a democratic vote. It makes me laugh to see the likes of Lionel condemning the scenes in America when he's been going on for year's that we shouldn't leave the EU even though the majority voted for it in the referendum. The Trump supporters are far more likely to be like Brexiteers to be fair, They were both targeted by Cambridge Analytica and Steve Bannon, they used Brexit as a dry run for the 2016 election so it likely they targeted the same sort of people! What sort of people? " There's actually a lot of information about the demographics of brexit and trump voters. https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/politics/trump-brexit-vote-indicators This is one, but feel free to find your own and read up. This one is based on authoritarian leanings and education. | |||
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"The remainers were like Trump supporter's, couldn't accept the result of a democratic vote. It makes me laugh to see the likes of Lionel condemning the scenes in America when he's been going on for year's that we shouldn't leave the EU even though the majority voted for it in the referendum. The Trump supporters are far more likely to be like Brexiteers to be fair, They were both targeted by Cambridge Analytica and Steve Bannon, they used Brexit as a dry run for the 2016 election so it likely they targeted the same sort of people! What sort of people? Susceptible to misinform. " How do you know who they are? | |||
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"The remainers were like Trump supporter's, couldn't accept the result of a democratic vote. It makes me laugh to see the likes of Lionel condemning the scenes in America when he's been going on for year's that we shouldn't leave the EU even though the majority voted for it in the referendum. The Trump supporters are far more likely to be like Brexiteers to be fair, They were both targeted by Cambridge Analytica and Steve Bannon, they used Brexit as a dry run for the 2016 election so it likely they targeted the same sort of people! What sort of people? Susceptible to misinform. How do you know who they are? " How do I know who who are? | |||
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"The remainers were like Trump supporter's, couldn't accept the result of a democratic vote. It makes me laugh to see the likes of Lionel condemning the scenes in America when he's been going on for year's that we shouldn't leave the EU even though the majority voted for it in the referendum. The Trump supporters are far more likely to be like Brexiteers to be fair, They were both targeted by Cambridge Analytica and Steve Bannon, they used Brexit as a dry run for the 2016 election so it likely they targeted the same sort of people! What sort of people? Susceptible to misinform. How do you know who they are? How do I know who who are?" Exactly | |||
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"The remainers were like Trump supporter's, couldn't accept the result of a democratic vote. It makes me laugh to see the likes of Lionel condemning the scenes in America when he's been going on for year's that we shouldn't leave the EU even though the majority voted for it in the referendum. The Trump supporters are far more likely to be like Brexiteers to be fair, They were both targeted by Cambridge Analytica and Steve Bannon, they used Brexit as a dry run for the 2016 election so it likely they targeted the same sort of people! What sort of people? Susceptible to misinform. How do you know who they are? How do I know who who are?" You are just full of ridiculous excuses as to why the remain campaign lost. A bigger example of a typical Trump fanatic would be hard to find | |||
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"The remainers were like Trump supporter's, couldn't accept the result of a democratic vote. It makes me laugh to see the likes of Lionel condemning the scenes in America when he's been going on for year's that we shouldn't leave the EU even though the majority voted for it in the referendum. The Trump supporters are far more likely to be like Brexiteers to be fair, They were both targeted by Cambridge Analytica and Steve Bannon, they used Brexit as a dry run for the 2016 election so it likely they targeted the same sort of people! What sort of people? Susceptible to misinform. How do you know who they are? How do I know who who are? You are just full of ridiculous excuses as to why the remain campaign lost. A bigger example of a typical Trump fanatic would be hard to find " Everything okay this morning? What "excuses" are you talking about? We were discussing the similarities between the demographics that voted for Trump to those that voted for brexit. Just to remove doubt. I am not a leaver, and I am not a Trump supporter. Heres another article looking at how Brexit and Trump supporters are likely to believe conspiracy theories. As I said. If you're interested in this subject. There are lots of articles talking about this stuff, it's interesting. https://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/brexit-and-trump-voters-more-likely-to-believe-in-conspiracy-theories-survey-study-shows | |||
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"The remainers were like Trump supporter's, couldn't accept the result of a democratic vote. It makes me laugh to see the likes of Lionel condemning the scenes in America when he's been going on for year's that we shouldn't leave the EU even though the majority voted for it in the referendum. The Trump supporters are far more likely to be like Brexiteers to be fair, They were both targeted by Cambridge Analytica and Steve Bannon, they used Brexit as a dry run for the 2016 election so it likely they targeted the same sort of people! What sort of people? Susceptible to misinform. How do you know who they are? How do I know who who are? You are just full of ridiculous excuses as to why the remain campaign lost. A bigger example of a typical Trump fanatic would be hard to find Everything okay this morning? What "excuses" are you talking about? We were discussing the similarities between the demographics that voted for Trump to those that voted for brexit. Just to remove doubt. I am not a leaver, and I am not a Trump supporter. Heres another article looking at how Brexit and Trump supporters are likely to believe conspiracy theories. As I said. If you're interested in this subject. There are lots of articles talking about this stuff, it's interesting. https://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/brexit-and-trump-voters-more-likely-to-believe-in-conspiracy-theories-survey-study-shows" And the stuff is bollocks. You see where your argument falls down is that if people were susceptible to information/misinformation, then they would would have followed the government propoganda and 'advice' | |||
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"The remainers were like Trump supporter's, couldn't accept the result of a democratic vote. It makes me laugh to see the likes of Lionel condemning the scenes in America when he's been going on for year's that we shouldn't leave the EU even though the majority voted for it in the referendum. The Trump supporters are far more likely to be like Brexiteers to be fair, They were both targeted by Cambridge Analytica and Steve Bannon, they used Brexit as a dry run for the 2016 election so it likely they targeted the same sort of people! What sort of people? Susceptible to misinform. How do you know who they are? How do I know who who are? You are just full of ridiculous excuses as to why the remain campaign lost. A bigger example of a typical Trump fanatic would be hard to find Everything okay this morning? What "excuses" are you talking about? We were discussing the similarities between the demographics that voted for Trump to those that voted for brexit. Just to remove doubt. I am not a leaver, and I am not a Trump supporter. Heres another article looking at how Brexit and Trump supporters are likely to believe conspiracy theories. As I said. If you're interested in this subject. There are lots of articles talking about this stuff, it's interesting. https://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/brexit-and-trump-voters-more-likely-to-believe-in-conspiracy-theories-survey-study-shows And the stuff is bollocks. You see where your argument falls down is that if people were susceptible to information/misinformation, then they would would have followed the government propoganda and 'advice' " Here's an article discussing misinformation used by the leave campaigns and by Trump in 2016. https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/10999922.2017.1285540 | |||
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"The remainers were like Trump supporter's, couldn't accept the result of a democratic vote. It makes me laugh to see the likes of Lionel condemning the scenes in America when he's been going on for year's that we shouldn't leave the EU even though the majority voted for it in the referendum. The Trump supporters are far more likely to be like Brexiteers to be fair, They were both targeted by Cambridge Analytica and Steve Bannon, they used Brexit as a dry run for the 2016 election so it likely they targeted the same sort of people! What sort of people? Susceptible to misinform. How do you know who they are? How do I know who who are? You are just full of ridiculous excuses as to why the remain campaign lost. A bigger example of a typical Trump fanatic would be hard to find Everything okay this morning? What "excuses" are you talking about? We were discussing the similarities between the demographics that voted for Trump to those that voted for brexit. Just to remove doubt. I am not a leaver, and I am not a Trump supporter. Heres another article looking at how Brexit and Trump supporters are likely to believe conspiracy theories. As I said. If you're interested in this subject. There are lots of articles talking about this stuff, it's interesting. https://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/brexit-and-trump-voters-more-likely-to-believe-in-conspiracy-theories-survey-study-shows And the stuff is bollocks. You see where your argument falls down is that if people were susceptible to information/misinformation, then they would would have followed the government propoganda and 'advice' Here's an article discussing misinformation used by the leave campaigns and by Trump in 2016. https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/10999922.2017.1285540" You claim that Leave supporters were easy to misinform then keep referencing crap from the Internet hilarious | |||
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"The remainers were like Trump supporter's, couldn't accept the result of a democratic vote. It makes me laugh to see the likes of Lionel condemning the scenes in America when he's been going on for year's that we shouldn't leave the EU even though the majority voted for it in the referendum. The Trump supporters are far more likely to be like Brexiteers to be fair, They were both targeted by Cambridge Analytica and Steve Bannon, they used Brexit as a dry run for the 2016 election so it likely they targeted the same sort of people! What sort of people? Susceptible to misinform. How do you know who they are? How do I know who who are? You are just full of ridiculous excuses as to why the remain campaign lost. A bigger example of a typical Trump fanatic would be hard to find Everything okay this morning? What "excuses" are you talking about? We were discussing the similarities between the demographics that voted for Trump to those that voted for brexit. Just to remove doubt. I am not a leaver, and I am not a Trump supporter. Heres another article looking at how Brexit and Trump supporters are likely to believe conspiracy theories. As I said. If you're interested in this subject. There are lots of articles talking about this stuff, it's interesting. https://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/brexit-and-trump-voters-more-likely-to-believe-in-conspiracy-theories-survey-study-shows And the stuff is bollocks. You see where your argument falls down is that if people were susceptible to information/misinformation, then they would would have followed the government propoganda and 'advice' Here's an article discussing misinformation used by the leave campaigns and by Trump in 2016. https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/10999922.2017.1285540 You claim that Leave supporters were easy to misinform then keep referencing crap from the Internet hilarious "1. I'm not claiming anything. 2. These are articles from Cambridge university and other institutions that study what's going on in the world. 3. If you read some, or found your own. You might learn something interesting about the subject matter. https://oxford.universitypressscholarship.com/view/10.1093/oso/9780198823452.001.0001/oso-9780198823452-chapter-21 Feel free just to read the summary if you like. | |||
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"Anyway, back to the BBC - We don’t watch live tv like many others these days, so yes the market has changed. The public face of the BBC is very pro European and left wing. And many of those who work in broadcasting say that the BBC wastes huge amounts of money employing far more people than necessary considering its output. I’ve been to a few BBC sites for work and seen this myself. " How is the bbc left wing when there are countless examples of right wing bias? | |||
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"Academics reckon extremists on both sides are equally susceptible to conspiracy theories: Journal of social and political psychology: “A large volume of academic research has demonstrated that individuals who profess radical political ideology, both left- and right-wing, tend to share similar underlying psychological patterns. By utilizing data collected through a voting advice application in Sweden, this study aims to assess whether extreme leftists and rightists share similarities in the psychological and political understanding of how society functions. We propose three hypotheses to test this pattern: Extreme left and right individuals are more inclined to believe in conspiracy theories than moderates.” From the LSE, pretty left wing as it goes: “Conspiracy theories are a feature of political discourse across the United States and Europe, but are some types of voters more likely to believe in conspiracy theories than others? Jan-Willem van Prooijen presents findings from a study of belief in conspiracy theories among individuals in the Netherlands and the U.S. He writes that those on the extreme left and right of the political spectrum, together with those who are more likely to have faith in there being simple solutions to complex political problems, are substantially more likely to also believe in conspiracy theories.”" Are you implying that leavers and trump supporters are extremists? | |||
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"Anyway, back to the BBC - We don’t watch live tv like many others these days, so yes the market has changed. The public face of the BBC is very pro European and left wing. And many of those who work in broadcasting say that the BBC wastes huge amounts of money employing far more people than necessary considering its output. I’ve been to a few BBC sites for work and seen this myself. " If your personal political viewpoint is quite far to the right. Anything left of you looks left wing. | |||
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"Academics reckon extremists on both sides are equally susceptible to conspiracy theories: Journal of social and political psychology: “A large volume of academic research has demonstrated that individuals who profess radical political ideology, both left- and right-wing, tend to share similar underlying psychological patterns. By utilizing data collected through a voting advice application in Sweden, this study aims to assess whether extreme leftists and rightists share similarities in the psychological and political understanding of how society functions. We propose three hypotheses to test this pattern: Extreme left and right individuals are more inclined to believe in conspiracy theories than moderates.” From the LSE, pretty left wing as it goes: “Conspiracy theories are a feature of political discourse across the United States and Europe, but are some types of voters more likely to believe in conspiracy theories than others? Jan-Willem van Prooijen presents findings from a study of belief in conspiracy theories among individuals in the Netherlands and the U.S. He writes that those on the extreme left and right of the political spectrum, together with those who are more likely to have faith in there being simple solutions to complex political problems, are substantially more likely to also believe in conspiracy theories.” Are you implying that leavers and trump supporters are extremists? " Let me check... 2.4% of them and 2.7% of remoaners are extremists apparently. | |||
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"Anyway, back to the BBC - We don’t watch live tv like many others these days, so yes the market has changed. The public face of the BBC is very pro European and left wing. And many of those who work in broadcasting say that the BBC wastes huge amounts of money employing far more people than necessary considering its output. I’ve been to a few BBC sites for work and seen this myself. If your personal political viewpoint is quite far to the right. Anything left of you looks left wing. " And in your mind, do you think the converse must therefore be true? | |||
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"Anyway, back to the BBC - We don’t watch live tv like many others these days, so yes the market has changed. The public face of the BBC is very pro European and left wing. And many of those who work in broadcasting say that the BBC wastes huge amounts of money employing far more people than necessary considering its output. I’ve been to a few BBC sites for work and seen this myself. If your personal political viewpoint is quite far to the right. Anything left of you looks left wing. And in your mind, do you think the converse must therefore be true?" Of course. This is why the BBC argument goes nowhere. In reality. The BBC has always leaned in favour of the current government. Claiming it's left or right leaning doesn't make for a strong argument. | |||
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"Anyway, back to the BBC - We don’t watch live tv like many others these days, so yes the market has changed. The public face of the BBC is very pro European and left wing. And many of those who work in broadcasting say that the BBC wastes huge amounts of money employing far more people than necessary considering its output. I’ve been to a few BBC sites for work and seen this myself. How is the bbc left wing when there are countless examples of right wing bias?" It’s my opinion based on its output and that it’s publicly funded. I can get past that however. The waste I’ve seen first hand and is the reason I want my money to go elsewhere. | |||
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"Anyway, back to the BBC - We don’t watch live tv like many others these days, so yes the market has changed. The public face of the BBC is very pro European and left wing. And many of those who work in broadcasting say that the BBC wastes huge amounts of money employing far more people than necessary considering its output. I’ve been to a few BBC sites for work and seen this myself. How is the bbc left wing when there are countless examples of right wing bias? It’s my opinion based on its output and that it’s publicly funded. I can get past that however. The waste I’ve seen first hand and is the reason I want my money to go elsewhere." Robin Aitken's book 'Can We Trust The BBC' was damning of their institutional bias There are some eye opening interviews with him on YouTube | |||
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"Anyway, back to the BBC - We don’t watch live tv like many others these days, so yes the market has changed. The public face of the BBC is very pro European and left wing. And many of those who work in broadcasting say that the BBC wastes huge amounts of money employing far more people than necessary considering its output. I’ve been to a few BBC sites for work and seen this myself. How is the bbc left wing when there are countless examples of right wing bias? It’s my opinion based on its output and that it’s publicly funded. I can get past that however. The waste I’ve seen first hand and is the reason I want my money to go elsewhere. Robin Aitken's book 'Can We Trust The BBC' was damning of their institutional bias There are some eye opening interviews with him on YouTube " What bias was this? | |||
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"Anyway, back to the BBC - We don’t watch live tv like many others these days, so yes the market has changed. The public face of the BBC is very pro European and left wing. And many of those who work in broadcasting say that the BBC wastes huge amounts of money employing far more people than necessary considering its output. I’ve been to a few BBC sites for work and seen this myself. How is the bbc left wing when there are countless examples of right wing bias? It’s my opinion based on its output and that it’s publicly funded. I can get past that however. The waste I’ve seen first hand and is the reason I want my money to go elsewhere. Robin Aitken's book 'Can We Trust The BBC' was damning of their institutional bias There are some eye opening interviews with him on YouTube What bias was this?" Even if you wouldn't buy the book I assume you have access to YouTube | |||
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"Anyway, back to the BBC - We don’t watch live tv like many others these days, so yes the market has changed. The public face of the BBC is very pro European and left wing. And many of those who work in broadcasting say that the BBC wastes huge amounts of money employing far more people than necessary considering its output. I’ve been to a few BBC sites for work and seen this myself. How is the bbc left wing when there are countless examples of right wing bias? It’s my opinion based on its output and that it’s publicly funded. I can get past that however. The waste I’ve seen first hand and is the reason I want my money to go elsewhere. Robin Aitken's book 'Can We Trust The BBC' was damning of their institutional bias There are some eye opening interviews with him on YouTube What bias was this? Even if you wouldn't buy the book I assume you have access to YouTube " You have watched it..what examples..considering there are countless examples of tory bias. | |||
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"Anyway, back to the BBC - We don’t watch live tv like many others these days, so yes the market has changed. The public face of the BBC is very pro European and left wing. And many of those who work in broadcasting say that the BBC wastes huge amounts of money employing far more people than necessary considering its output. I’ve been to a few BBC sites for work and seen this myself. How is the bbc left wing when there are countless examples of right wing bias? It’s my opinion based on its output and that it’s publicly funded. I can get past that however. The waste I’ve seen first hand and is the reason I want my money to go elsewhere. Robin Aitken's book 'Can We Trust The BBC' was damning of their institutional bias There are some eye opening interviews with him on YouTube What bias was this? Even if you wouldn't buy the book I assume you have access to YouTube You have watched it..what examples..considering there are countless examples of tory bias." And yet you're here defending them? | |||
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"Anyway, back to the BBC - We don’t watch live tv like many others these days, so yes the market has changed. The public face of the BBC is very pro European and left wing. And many of those who work in broadcasting say that the BBC wastes huge amounts of money employing far more people than necessary considering its output. I’ve been to a few BBC sites for work and seen this myself. How is the bbc left wing when there are countless examples of right wing bias? It’s my opinion based on its output and that it’s publicly funded. I can get past that however. The waste I’ve seen first hand and is the reason I want my money to go elsewhere. Robin Aitken's book 'Can We Trust The BBC' was damning of their institutional bias There are some eye opening interviews with him on YouTube What bias was this? Even if you wouldn't buy the book I assume you have access to YouTube You have watched it..what examples..considering there are countless examples of tory bias. And yet you're here defending them? " No..I'm asking for examples of this so called bias I asked for 5 the other day and didnt get 1 | |||
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"I love the way people trot out this left wing bias but are unable even 1 example." Oh come on lol, cancelling Andrew Neil, woke Lineker on 2 million quid, blue haired loons on every Question Time, Meet the Kumars (almost as unfunny as Mrs Brown) with a script that would never be allowed if it was a white family, 90% left wing comedians on panel shows, Jo Brand, kill whitey....... | |||
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"I love the way people trot out this left wing bias but are unable even 1 example. Oh come on lol, cancelling Andrew Neil, woke Lineker on 2 million quid, blue haired loons on every Question Time, Meet the Kumars (almost as unfunny as Mrs Brown) with a script that would never be allowed if it was a white family, 90% left wing comedians on panel shows, Jo Brand, kill whitey......." This list of things and people you don't like. Isn't left wing bias. Using Lineker as an example is silly. He has the experience and knowledge to present football based shows. Just because you don't like him speaking out against racism and not pandering to the anti immigrant narrative, doesn't mean the BBC are displaying left wing bias. Do better. Give some real life examples so we can see what you guys mean. | |||
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"The bbc is far from perfect. However I'm sure things will improve when its gone and we move to an American type system,where right wing crackpots can spew their vitriol 24 hrs a day and masquerade it as news. There aren’t any right wing news outlets in America. Fox, Newsmaxx, OAN, Breitbart, redstate, daily caller.....I could go on." Only Fox News is readily available in the USA. You guys must know this? | |||
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"I love the way people trot out this left wing bias but are unable even 1 example. Oh come on lol, cancelling Andrew Neil, woke Lineker on 2 million quid, blue haired loons on every Question Time, Meet the Kumars (almost as unfunny as Mrs Brown) with a script that would never be allowed if it was a white family, 90% left wing comedians on panel shows, Jo Brand, kill whitey....... This list of things and people you don't like. Isn't left wing bias. Using Lineker as an example is silly. He has the experience and knowledge to present football based shows. Just because you don't like him speaking out against racism and not pandering to the anti immigrant narrative, doesn't mean the BBC are displaying left wing bias. Do better. Give some real life examples so we can see what you guys mean." Real life examples? Ok: Cancelling Andrew Neil, woke Lineker on 2 million quid, blue haired loons on every Question Time, Meet the Kumars (almost as unfunny as Mrs Brown) with a script that would never be allowed if it was a white family, 90% left wing comedians on panel shows, Jo Brand, kill whitey....... | |||
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"The bbc is far from perfect. However I'm sure things will improve when its gone and we move to an American type system,where right wing crackpots can spew their vitriol 24 hrs a day and masquerade it as news. There aren’t any right wing news outlets in America. Fox, Newsmaxx, OAN, Breitbart, redstate, daily caller.....I could go on. Only Fox News is readily available in the USA. You guys must know this? " Does being on line, not count as "readily available"? | |||
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"I love the way people trot out this left wing bias but are unable even 1 example. Oh come on lol, cancelling Andrew Neil, woke Lineker on 2 million quid, blue haired loons on every Question Time, Meet the Kumars (almost as unfunny as Mrs Brown) with a script that would never be allowed if it was a white family, 90% left wing comedians on panel shows, Jo Brand, kill whitey....... This list of things and people you don't like. Isn't left wing bias. Using Lineker as an example is silly. He has the experience and knowledge to present football based shows. Just because you don't like him speaking out against racism and not pandering to the anti immigrant narrative, doesn't mean the BBC are displaying left wing bias. Do better. Give some real life examples so we can see what you guys mean. Real life examples? Ok: Cancelling Andrew Neil, woke Lineker on 2 million quid, blue haired loons on every Question Time, Meet the Kumars (almost as unfunny as Mrs Brown) with a script that would never be allowed if it was a white family, 90% left wing comedians on panel shows, Jo Brand, kill whitey......." I'm really trying here. But just putting a list of people you don't like. Or people who speak out against racism (on their own platforms, not on the BBC) isn't let wing bias. | |||
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"I love the way people trot out this left wing bias but are unable even 1 example. Oh come on lol, cancelling Andrew Neil, woke Lineker on 2 million quid, blue haired loons on every Question Time, Meet the Kumars (almost as unfunny as Mrs Brown) with a script that would never be allowed if it was a white family, 90% left wing comedians on panel shows, Jo Brand, kill whitey......." Andrew neill was cancelled because of budget cuts..he was on the bbc for years Before that I'll have to watch motd for one of linekars left wing rants The same qt which has Farage on ever week and an audience made up of tories? Can a sit com be left wing? | |||
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"“.....programs looked at included flagship ones such as Have I Got News for You with Ian Hislop and Paul Merton; the Graham Norton Show; Richard Osman’s House of Games Night; and Would I Lie to You with David Mitchell on BBC1. On BBC2 the controversial Mini Mash Report with Nish Kumar and Mock the Week with Dara O’Briain; while on Radio 4 programs included Just a Minute and the Now Show. The research, published today, reveals that over the previous month the three channels aired comedy by 141 comedians on 364 different slots on shows. Of those slots: 268 (74 percent) were given to 99 comedians with publicly pronounced left-leaning, anti-Brexit or ‘woke’ views.”" The same have I got news for you which was guested johnson,reece mogg and countless Tory mps Are you just listing people you dont like? Should peep show be banned? | |||
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"“.....programs looked at included flagship ones such as Have I Got News for You with Ian Hislop and Paul Merton; the Graham Norton Show; Richard Osman’s House of Games Night; and Would I Lie to You with David Mitchell on BBC1. On BBC2 the controversial Mini Mash Report with Nish Kumar and Mock the Week with Dara O’Briain; while on Radio 4 programs included Just a Minute and the Now Show. The research, published today, reveals that over the previous month the three channels aired comedy by 141 comedians on 364 different slots on shows. Of those slots: 268 (74 percent) were given to 99 comedians with publicly pronounced left-leaning, anti-Brexit or ‘woke’ views.”" Copying and pasting bollocks from the Daily Express weakens your argument. The Daily Express is so far to the right, that of course the BBC is left to them. | |||
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"“.....programs looked at included flagship ones such as Have I Got News for You with Ian Hislop and Paul Merton; the Graham Norton Show; Richard Osman’s House of Games Night; and Would I Lie to You with David Mitchell on BBC1. On BBC2 the controversial Mini Mash Report with Nish Kumar and Mock the Week with Dara O’Briain; while on Radio 4 programs included Just a Minute and the Now Show. The research, published today, reveals that over the previous month the three channels aired comedy by 141 comedians on 364 different slots on shows. Of those slots: 268 (74 percent) were given to 99 comedians with publicly pronounced left-leaning, anti-Brexit or ‘woke’ views.” Copying and pasting bollocks from the Daily Express weakens your argument. The Daily Express is so far to the right, that of course the BBC is left to them." They covered the story but it’s not their research | |||
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"“.....programs looked at included flagship ones such as Have I Got News for You with Ian Hislop and Paul Merton; the Graham Norton Show; Richard Osman’s House of Games Night; and Would I Lie to You with David Mitchell on BBC1. On BBC2 the controversial Mini Mash Report with Nish Kumar and Mock the Week with Dara O’Briain; while on Radio 4 programs included Just a Minute and the Now Show. The research, published today, reveals that over the previous month the three channels aired comedy by 141 comedians on 364 different slots on shows. Of those slots: 268 (74 percent) were given to 99 comedians with publicly pronounced left-leaning, anti-Brexit or ‘woke’ views.” Copying and pasting bollocks from the Daily Express weakens your argument. The Daily Express is so far to the right, that of course the BBC is left to them. They covered the story but it’s not their research " And put there extreme far right viewpoint on it. And why are they suggesting that only left wingers are against racism (WOKE)? I don't consider myself left wing, my views on different issues sit all over the political spectrum. And I am absolutely against racism. | |||
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"Anyway, back to the BBC - We don’t watch live tv like many others these days, so yes the market has changed. The public face of the BBC is very pro European and left wing. And many of those who work in broadcasting say that the BBC wastes huge amounts of money employing far more people than necessary considering its output. I’ve been to a few BBC sites for work and seen this myself. How is the bbc left wing when there are countless examples of right wing bias? It’s my opinion based on its output and that it’s publicly funded. I can get past that however. The waste I’ve seen first hand and is the reason I want my money to go elsewhere. Robin Aitken's book 'Can We Trust The BBC' was damning of their institutional bias There are some eye opening interviews with him on YouTube What bias was this? Even if you wouldn't buy the book I assume you have access to YouTube You have watched it..what examples..considering there are countless examples of tory bias." Give me an example of your claim please Lionel & please don’t use your normal sources of bias or that of ofcom the organisation where ex BBC employees go to work x show me one say from a reliable source please xx | |||
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"The dg Tory donor Corbyn mocked up as a Russian on newsnight Rlb doing an interview for free broadband under the headline..communism Nick Robinson Farage in qt The audience on qt Kunsberg tweeting a false story about Hancock being attacked Johnson swerving Andrew Neill Johnson cenotaph story Left wing my arse." Farage with the 9th most appearances on QT. Despite not being an MP, and being the leader of a party with no MPS. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Question_Time_episodes | |||
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"The dg Tory donor Corbyn mocked up as a Russian on newsnight Rlb doing an interview for free broadband under the headline..communism Nick Robinson Farage in qt The audience on qt Kunsberg tweeting a false story about Hancock being attacked Johnson swerving Andrew Neill Johnson cenotaph story Left wing my arse. Farage with the 9th most appearances on QT. Despite not being an MP, and being the leader of a party with no MPS. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Question_Time_episodes" Glad you found that reference, number 1 is remainer Kenneth Clark, and 2 through 8 are all labour and liberal MPs. Just lol. | |||
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"The dg Tory donor Corbyn mocked up as a Russian on newsnight Rlb doing an interview for free broadband under the headline..communism Nick Robinson Farage in qt The audience on qt Kunsberg tweeting a false story about Hancock being attacked Johnson swerving Andrew Neill Johnson cenotaph story Left wing my arse. Farage with the 9th most appearances on QT. Despite not being an MP, and being the leader of a party with no MPS. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Question_Time_episodes Glad you found that reference, number 1 is remainer Kenneth Clark, and 2 through 8 are all labour and liberal MPs. Just lol. " Kenneth Clark on QT is evidence of BBCs left wing bias. You are leaving the bounds of reality. | |||
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"Anyway, back to the BBC - We don’t watch live tv like many others these days, so yes the market has changed. The public face of the BBC is very pro European and left wing. And many of those who work in broadcasting say that the BBC wastes huge amounts of money employing far more people than necessary considering its output. I’ve been to a few BBC sites for work and seen this myself. How is the bbc left wing when there are countless examples of right wing bias? It’s my opinion based on its output and that it’s publicly funded. I can get past that however. The waste I’ve seen first hand and is the reason I want my money to go elsewhere. Robin Aitken's book 'Can We Trust The BBC' was damning of their institutional bias There are some eye opening interviews with him on YouTube What bias was this? Even if you wouldn't buy the book I assume you have access to YouTube You have watched it..what examples..considering there are countless examples of tory bias. Give me an example of your claim please Lionel & please don’t use your normal sources of bias or that of ofcom the organisation where ex BBC employees go to work x show me one say from a reliable source please xx" See above | |||
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"The dg Tory donor Corbyn mocked up as a Russian on newsnight Rlb doing an interview for free broadband under the headline..communism Nick Robinson Farage in qt The audience on qt Kunsberg tweeting a false story about Hancock being attacked Johnson swerving Andrew Neill Johnson cenotaph story Left wing my arse. Farage with the 9th most appearances on QT. Despite not being an MP, and being the leader of a party with no MPS. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Question_Time_episodes Glad you found that reference, number 1 is remainer Kenneth Clark, and 2 through 8 are all labour and liberal MPs. Just lol. " | |||
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"The dg Tory donor Corbyn mocked up as a Russian on newsnight Rlb doing an interview for free broadband under the headline..communism Nick Robinson Farage in qt The audience on qt Kunsberg tweeting a false story about Hancock being attacked Johnson swerving Andrew Neill Johnson cenotaph story Left wing my arse. Farage with the 9th most appearances on QT. Despite not being an MP, and being the leader of a party with no MPS. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Question_Time_episodes Glad you found that reference, number 1 is remainer Kenneth Clark, and 2 through 8 are all labour and liberal MPs. Just lol. Kenneth Clark on QT is evidence of BBCs left wing bias. You are leaving the bounds of reality. " Clark was one of the biggest wets, can’t really see how he managed to stay in the tories. And let’s just ignore numbers 2 through 8 then haha. | |||
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"The dg Tory donor Corbyn mocked up as a Russian on newsnight Rlb doing an interview for free broadband under the headline..communism Nick Robinson Farage in qt The audience on qt Kunsberg tweeting a false story about Hancock being attacked Johnson swerving Andrew Neill Johnson cenotaph story Left wing my arse. Farage with the 9th most appearances on QT. Despite not being an MP, and being the leader of a party with no MPS. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Question_Time_episodes Glad you found that reference, number 1 is remainer Kenneth Clark, and 2 through 8 are all labour and liberal MPs. Just lol. Kenneth Clark on QT is evidence of BBCs left wing bias. You are leaving the bounds of reality. Clark was one of the biggest wets, can’t really see how he managed to stay in the tories. And let’s just ignore numbers 2 through 8 then haha. " So you are saying a life long tory on a panel show is an example of left wing bias? Seriously? | |||
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"That's what they have done in America though.. bought up all those radio stations and got their message across. I cant see it here,we are too apathetic. Unless some really bad happened like some huge crack but I cant see that happening. Cough.It nearly happened over Brexit and we tend to follow the States sadly.We did this first befoew the US.Remoaners are like Trump followers believing theres is the only way it all dangerous" | |||
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"The dg Tory donor Corbyn mocked up as a Russian on newsnight Rlb doing an interview for free broadband under the headline..communism Nick Robinson Farage in qt The audience on qt Kunsberg tweeting a false story about Hancock being attacked Johnson swerving Andrew Neill Johnson cenotaph story Left wing my arse. Farage with the 9th most appearances on QT. Despite not being an MP, and being the leader of a party with no MPS. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Question_Time_episodes Glad you found that reference, number 1 is remainer Kenneth Clark, and 2 through 8 are all labour and liberal MPs. Just lol. Kenneth Clark on QT is evidence of BBCs left wing bias. You are leaving the bounds of reality. Clark was one of the biggest wets, can’t really see how he managed to stay in the tories. And let’s just ignore numbers 2 through 8 then haha. " Like you're ignoring the Farage point? So the others. This is only significant if more Labour or Lib dem MPs than conservative MPs have been on. This data looks at individuals. | |||
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"The dg Tory donor Corbyn mocked up as a Russian on newsnight Rlb doing an interview for free broadband under the headline..communism Nick Robinson Farage in qt The audience on qt Kunsberg tweeting a false story about Hancock being attacked Johnson swerving Andrew Neill Johnson cenotaph story Left wing my arse. Farage with the 9th most appearances on QT. Despite not being an MP, and being the leader of a party with no MPS. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Question_Time_episodes Glad you found that reference, number 1 is remainer Kenneth Clark, and 2 through 8 are all labour and liberal MPs. Just lol. Kenneth Clark on QT is evidence of BBCs left wing bias. You are leaving the bounds of reality. Clark was one of the biggest wets, can’t really see how he managed to stay in the tories. And let’s just ignore numbers 2 through 8 then haha. So you are saying a life long tory on a panel show is an example of left wing bias? Seriously?" One of the most ridiculous arguments. I dunno. Maybe I need to avoid picking the low hanging fruit and just reply to people making genuine points. Time to ignore the trolls. | |||
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"The dg Tory donor Corbyn mocked up as a Russian on newsnight Rlb doing an interview for free broadband under the headline..communism Nick Robinson Farage in qt The audience on qt Kunsberg tweeting a false story about Hancock being attacked Johnson swerving Andrew Neill Johnson cenotaph story Left wing my arse. Farage with the 9th most appearances on QT. Despite not being an MP, and being the leader of a party with no MPS. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Question_Time_episodes Glad you found that reference, number 1 is remainer Kenneth Clark, and 2 through 8 are all labour and liberal MPs. Just lol. Kenneth Clark on QT is evidence of BBCs left wing bias. You are leaving the bounds of reality. Clark was one of the biggest wets, can’t really see how he managed to stay in the tories. And let’s just ignore numbers 2 through 8 then haha. Like you're ignoring the Farage point? So the others. This is only significant if more Labour or Lib dem MPs than conservative MPs have been on. This data looks at individuals. " You can’t really have it both ways my friend. Either you want to look at total numbers, or you look at the individuals. It was you quoted the individuals with most appearance list. And when it turned out all the top 8 were remainers and 7 of them left wing you didn’t like your list any more. It’s your credibility on the line when you keep referencing things then backtracking when someone actually reads it. | |||
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"I love when people claim something (ie the bbc is left wing)provide no credible whatsoever.. and when presented with alternative facts.. completely ignore it. "(Alternative facts.... wasn’t that a Trump quote? Lol) I’m struggling a little to place many of the examples you quoted. Johnson swerving Neil doesn’t sound particularly biased Neil is a great interviewer. Nick Robinson is less woke for sure but don’t know how he votes. | |||
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"I love when people claim something (ie the bbc is left wing)provide no credible whatsoever.. and when presented with alternative facts.. completely ignore it. "What facts have you proved? When you listen to the bbc you never notice the way they ask a Tory a gotcha question & before they answered they’ start the next or start pulling them because they didn’t say what they wanted. Yet Labour get an easy question & time to respond & never cross questioned. It’s like when you see the look of disdain when interviewing a Tory they can’t help themselves. Its like with Trump how many years did they go on about Russian interference yet none proven & every other story they could come up with to satisfy their hatred of the cretin, yet straight away with Biden no signs of voter fraud without even investigating it (& I’m not saying there was). The same with the way they reported the what I hope we agree disgusting attack on Washington compared to the riots of a few months back, burning luting & many more deaths described as mainly peaceful you could see the flames burning yet described as mainly peaceful by the BBC yet equally as disgusting so you can see why people can see the bias & call it out xx | |||
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"The dg Tory donor Corbyn mocked up as a Russian on newsnight Rlb doing an interview for free broadband under the headline..communism Nick Robinson Farage in qt The audience on qt Kunsberg tweeting a false story about Hancock being attacked Johnson swerving Andrew Neill Johnson cenotaph story Left wing my arse. Farage with the 9th most appearances on QT. Despite not being an MP, and being the leader of a party with no MPS. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Question_Time_episodes Glad you found that reference, number 1 is remainer Kenneth Clark, and 2 through 8 are all labour and liberal MPs. Just lol. Kenneth Clark on QT is evidence of BBCs left wing bias. You are leaving the bounds of reality. Clark was one of the biggest wets, can’t really see how he managed to stay in the tories. And let’s just ignore numbers 2 through 8 then haha. Like you're ignoring the Farage point? So the others. This is only significant if more Labour or Lib dem MPs than conservative MPs have been on. This data looks at individuals. You can’t really have it both ways my friend. Either you want to look at total numbers, or you look at the individuals. It was you quoted the individuals with most appearance list. And when it turned out all the top 8 were remainers and 7 of them left wing you didn’t like your list any more. It’s your credibility on the line when you keep referencing things then backtracking when someone actually reads it." | |||
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"I love when people claim something (ie the bbc is left wing)provide no credible whatsoever.. and when presented with alternative facts.. completely ignore it.
What facts have you proved? When you listen to the bbc you never notice the way they ask a Tory a gotcha question & before they answered they’ start the next or start pulling them because they didn’t say what they wanted. Yet Labour get an easy question & time to respond & never cross questioned. It’s like when you see the look of disdain when interviewing a Tory they can’t help themselves. Its like with Trump how many years did they go on about Russian interference yet none proven & every other story they could come up with to satisfy their hatred of the cretin, yet straight away with Biden no signs of voter fraud without even investigating it (& I’m not saying there was). The same with the way they reported the what I hope we agree disgusting attack on Washington compared to the riots of a few months back, burning luting & many more deaths described as mainly peaceful you could see the flames burning yet described as mainly peaceful by the BBC yet equally as disgusting so you can see why people can see the bias & call it out xx"I have noticed that with Andrew Marr. I like his program but he has a habit of asking a question and not allowing the person to answer. First I thought it was only when politicians started waffling as they do but even when they attempt to give a straight explanation he interrupts. What's the point in asking questions and not listening to the answers | |||
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"I love when people claim something (ie the bbc is left wing)provide no credible whatsoever.. and when presented with alternative facts.. completely ignore it.
What facts have you proved? When you listen to the bbc you never notice the way they ask a Tory a gotcha question & before they answered they’ start the next or start pulling them because they didn’t say what they wanted. Yet Labour get an easy question & time to respond & never cross questioned. It’s like when you see the look of disdain when interviewing a Tory they can’t help themselves. Its like with Trump how many years did they go on about Russian interference yet none proven & every other story they could come up with to satisfy their hatred of the cretin, yet straight away with Biden no signs of voter fraud without even investigating it (& I’m not saying there was). The same with the way they reported the what I hope we agree disgusting attack on Washington compared to the riots of a few months back, burning luting & many more deaths described as mainly peaceful you could see the flames burning yet described as mainly peaceful by the BBC yet equally as disgusting so you can see why people can see the bias & call it out xx"Ive listed about 8 things that actually happened. Just because a presenter Is on a wedge doesn't mean its left wing. The examples you are given are simply your interpretation of something. To be honest I cant recall a time when Johnson has actually been asked difficult questions. And when he does..he just blisters and says something in Latin. | |||
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"I love when people claim something (ie the bbc is left wing)provide no credible whatsoever.. and when presented with alternative facts.. completely ignore it.
What facts have you proved? When you listen to the bbc you never notice the way they ask a Tory a gotcha question & before they answered they’ start the next or start pulling them because they didn’t say what they wanted. Yet Labour get an easy question & time to respond & never cross questioned. It’s like when you see the look of disdain when interviewing a Tory they can’t help themselves. Its like with Trump how many years did they go on about Russian interference yet none proven & every other story they could come up with to satisfy their hatred of the cretin, yet straight away with Biden no signs of voter fraud without even investigating it (& I’m not saying there was). The same with the way they reported the what I hope we agree disgusting attack on Washington compared to the riots of a few months back, burning luting & many more deaths described as mainly peaceful you could see the flames burning yet described as mainly peaceful by the BBC yet equally as disgusting so you can see why people can see the bias & call it out xx
I have noticed that with Andrew Marr. I like his program but he has a habit of asking a question and not allowing the person to answer. First I thought it was only when politicians started waffling as they do but even when they attempt to give a straight explanation he interrupts. What's the point in asking questions and not listening to the answers"I'm surprised Johnson actually turned up this time. I thought he had one scheduled with sooty. | |||
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"To be honest I cant recall a time when Johnson has actually been asked difficult questions. " clearly every wednesday when there has been PMQ's involving Sir Kier Starmer, when Johnson 'gets his arse handed to him' on every occassion. | |||
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