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"Looking for good & quality genuine sites with english translations? I'm from Ireland.Used to get in UK(actually 70% of all Ireland online shopping was done in UK) but With Brexit too much hassle on excess payments and not discreet packaging! " Not sure about sex toys but its already cost me sales to France and germany, brexit is costing the uk dearly. | |||
"Looking for good & quality genuine sites with english translations? I'm from Ireland.Used to get in UK(actually 70% of all Ireland online shopping was done in UK) but With Brexit too much hassle on excess payments and not discreet packaging. Not sure about sex toys but its already cost me sales to France and germany, brexit is costing the uk dearly." Yeah, Brexit not good for businesses, it's okay MPs sat on there fat arses they still get paid what ever were as you have lost business and income not easy to claw back. But they say these new trade deals with countries am sure they will make up lost business what a load of bollocks. | |||
"Looking for good & quality genuine sites with english translations? I'm from Ireland.Used to get in UK(actually 70% of all Ireland online shopping was done in UK) but With Brexit too much hassle on excess payments and not discreet packaging! " So you are saying 4 days ago you was happy to buy stuff online from the UK but now your not because since the UK has left the EU the packaging is not discreet..! | |||
"Looking for good & quality genuine sites with english translations? I'm from Ireland.Used to get in UK(actually 70% of all Ireland online shopping was done in UK) but With Brexit too much hassle on excess payments and not discreet packaging! So you are saying 4 days ago you was happy to buy stuff online from the UK but now your not because since the UK has left the EU the packaging is not discreet..!" Lol. Can't see any UK supplier sending out a Dildo in a see-thru blister pack with no wrapping on! Maybe you are simply shopping in all the wrong places lol. | |||
"Looking for good & quality genuine sites with english translations? I'm from Ireland.Used to get in UK(actually 70% of all Ireland online shopping was done in UK) but With Brexit too much hassle on excess payments and not discreet packaging! So you are saying 4 days ago you was happy to buy stuff online from the UK but now your not because since the UK has left the EU the packaging is not discreet..!" amazing how much has changed in 4 days with it being a weekend and bank holiday too. | |||
"Looking for good & quality genuine sites with english translations? I'm from Ireland.Used to get in UK(actually 70% of all Ireland online shopping was done in UK) but With Brexit too much hassle on excess payments and not discreet packaging! So you are saying 4 days ago you was happy to buy stuff online from the UK but now your not because since the UK has left the EU the packaging is not discreet..!amazing how much has changed in 4 days with it being a weekend and bank holiday too. "Obiviously brexiteers dont know business now goes on 24/7, even weekends and holidays. | |||
"Looking for good & quality genuine sites with english translations? I'm from Ireland.Used to get in UK(actually 70% of all Ireland online shopping was done in UK) but With Brexit too much hassle on excess payments and not discreet packaging! " There is a lovehoney eu site, have you tried that? | |||
"Looking for good & quality genuine sites with english translations? I'm from Ireland.Used to get in UK(actually 70% of all Ireland online shopping was done in UK) but With Brexit too much hassle on excess payments and not discreet packaging! So you are saying 4 days ago you was happy to buy stuff online from the UK but now your not because since the UK has left the EU the packaging is not discreet..!" I think what he means is because of much higher import payments they will be switching to european sites, lost sales for the uk. I've lost sales already. | |||
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"I sell adult items abroad and its cost me already. I was told by a customer in Germany they will be charged a 20% import fee which they wont pay and so it will eventually get sent back to me. And my European sales have dropped considerably since the new year. Also to note is some eu companies are now refusing to sell to the uk. The torries have fucked the country." It's a shitshow here in NI so far. That moron Brandon Lewis had the nerve to say there is no 'irish sea border' But as long as the flag waving imbeciles think that Brexit is a good thing, reality will not be of any concern to them. | |||
"I sell adult items abroad and its cost me already. I was told by a customer in Germany they will be charged a 20% import fee which they wont pay and so it will eventually get sent back to me. And my European sales have dropped considerably since the new year. Also to note is some eu companies are now refusing to sell to the uk. The torries have fucked the country." Try explaining that to some of the brexit fanatics and they go full on trump, "IT'S FAKE NEWS" | |||
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"What is it in this example that Germans are buying from you that they are unable to buy from their own suppliers? Is it unique product? Are they buying from you because you are massively cheaper than the price charged for same product in Germany (unless it’s a unique product)" Not everything is down to price, better website, customer loyalty etc there can be a hundred ppl selling the same item at a similar price best sales pitch gets the order but if one site now has to charge a significant customs fee what do u think happens. Brexit is simply a pig. | |||
"I sell unique products." Eu customers can still buy from you without having the surprise of import vat to pay, if you switch to DDP - your retail selling price for Eu customers would need to be net of U.K. vat (zero vat as you are exporting outside of U.K.) - so when you add the DDP charges for the customer they are essentially paying the same price, but don’t have additional import fees to pay when the order is delivered to their address. | |||
"I sell adult items abroad and its cost me already. I was told by a customer in Germany they will be charged a 20% import fee which they wont pay and so it will eventually get sent back to me. And my European sales have dropped considerably since the new year. Also to note is some eu companies are now refusing to sell to the uk. The tories have fucked the country." You need to sell at 0% vat so reducing your price by 21%, the customer in EU is paying 20% (import fees you say) VAT so they actually buy it cheaper. It's all about getting used to the new system. | |||
"I sell unique products. Eu customers can still buy from you without having the surprise of import vat to pay, if you switch to DDP - your retail selling price for Eu customers would need to be net of U.K. vat (zero vat as you are exporting outside of U.K.) - so when you add the DDP charges for the customer they are essentially paying the same price, but don’t have additional import fees to pay when the order is delivered to their address. "  | |||
"Looking for good & quality genuine sites with english translations? I'm from Ireland.Used to get in UK(actually 70% of all Ireland online shopping was done in UK) but With Brexit too much hassle on excess payments and not discreet packaging! " UK businesses need to learn quickly how to sell at 0% VAT when sending to EU, and stop the extra charges. | |||
"Looking for good & quality genuine sites with english translations? I'm from Ireland.Used to get in UK(actually 70% of all Ireland online shopping was done in UK) but With Brexit too much hassle on excess payments and not discreet packaging. Not sure about sex toys but its already cost me sales to France and germany, brexit is costing the uk dearly. Yeah, Brexit not good for businesses, it's okay MPs sat on there fat arses they still get paid what ever were as you have lost business and income not easy to claw back. But they say these new trade deals with countries am sure they will make up lost business what a load of bollocks. " You know guys it's this sort of negativity that stops businesses from researching and finding out how to stop losing that business. E.g. why are businesses still charging UK VAT when exporting to EU, save your customers the money, zero rate your exports. | |||
"I sell unique products. Eu customers can still buy from you without having the surprise of import vat to pay, if you switch to DDP - your retail selling price for Eu customers would need to be net of U.K. vat (zero vat as you are exporting outside of U.K.) - so when you add the DDP charges for the customer they are essentially paying the same price, but don’t have additional import fees to pay when the order is delivered to their address. " DDP? Oh dear The risks to the seller are broad and include VAT charges, bribery, and storage costs if unexpected delays occur. A DDP benefits a buyer as the seller assumes all of the liabilities and costs. I thought this brexit thing was easy. | |||
"Looking for good & quality genuine sites with english translations? I'm from Ireland.Used to get in UK(actually 70% of all Ireland online shopping was done in UK) but With Brexit too much hassle on excess payments and not discreet packaging. Not sure about sex toys but its already cost me sales to France and germany, brexit is costing the uk dearly. Yeah, Brexit not good for businesses, it's okay MPs sat on there fat arses they still get paid what ever were as you have lost business and income not easy to claw back. But they say these new trade deals with countries am sure they will make up lost business what a load of bollocks. You know guys it's this sort of negativity that stops businesses from researching and finding out how to stop losing that business. E.g. why are businesses still charging UK VAT when exporting to EU, save your customers the money, zero rate your exports." Yes let's carry on like nothing's changed like we're still in the single market where 80% of our trade goes or rather did go. | |||
"I sell unique products. Eu customers can still buy from you without having the surprise of import vat to pay, if you switch to DDP - your retail selling price for Eu customers would need to be net of U.K. vat (zero vat as you are exporting outside of U.K.) - so when you add the DDP charges for the customer they are essentially paying the same price, but don’t have additional import fees to pay when the order is delivered to their address. DDP? Oh dear The risks to the seller are broad and include VAT charges, bribery, and storage costs if unexpected delays occur. A DDP benefits a buyer as the seller assumes all of the liabilities and costs. I thought this brexit thing was easy." Where is the risk if the buyer has paid you for the goods, and as the seller, and IOR, taken responsibility for and added these costs to the invoice the buyer has already paid you for. Where would the delay and storage cost be if the transit, duty and taxes have already been completed an cleared prior to the order reaching the receiving custom border . In the case of IfemNaughtyDesires they will need to look into how the OMP they are using will be handling this on their behalf (unless they operate their own website in which case they can easily do it themselves and not lose any sales) | |||
"I sell unique products. Eu customers can still buy from you without having the surprise of import vat to pay, if you switch to DDP - your retail selling price for Eu customers would need to be net of U.K. vat (zero vat as you are exporting outside of U.K.) - so when you add the DDP charges for the customer they are essentially paying the same price, but don’t have additional import fees to pay when the order is delivered to their address. DDP? Oh dear The risks to the seller are broad and include VAT charges, bribery, and storage costs if unexpected delays occur. A DDP benefits a buyer as the seller assumes all of the liabilities and costs. I thought this brexit thing was easy. Where is the risk if the buyer has paid you for the goods, and as the seller, and IOR, taken responsibility for and added these costs to the invoice the buyer has already paid you for. Where would the delay and storage cost be if the transit, duty and taxes have already been completed an cleared prior to the order reaching the receiving custom border . In the case of IfemNaughtyDesires they will need to look into how the OMP they are using will be handling this on their behalf (unless they operate their own website in which case they can easily do it themselves and not lose any sales)" All this extra hassle cost and red tape. DDP is used by carousel vat fraudsters. Oh to be able to trade with none of this expense with our biggest market, worrisome times for business. | |||
"I sell unique products. Eu customers can still buy from you without having the surprise of import vat to pay, if you switch to DDP - your retail selling price for Eu customers would need to be net of U.K. vat (zero vat as you are exporting outside of U.K.) - so when you add the DDP charges for the customer they are essentially paying the same price, but don’t have additional import fees to pay when the order is delivered to their address. DDP? Oh dear The risks to the seller are broad and include VAT charges, bribery, and storage costs if unexpected delays occur. A DDP benefits a buyer as the seller assumes all of the liabilities and costs. I thought this brexit thing was easy. Where is the risk if the buyer has paid you for the goods, and as the seller, and IOR, taken responsibility for and added these costs to the invoice the buyer has already paid you for. Where would the delay and storage cost be if the transit, duty and taxes have already been completed an cleared prior to the order reaching the receiving custom border . In the case of IfemNaughtyDesires they will need to look into how the OMP they are using will be handling this on their behalf (unless they operate their own website in which case they can easily do it themselves and not lose any sales) All this extra hassle cost and red tape. DDP is used by carousel vat fraudsters. Oh to be able to trade with none of this expense with our biggest market, worrisome times for business." Positive thinking will win the day  | |||
"I sell unique products. Eu customers can still buy from you without having the surprise of import vat to pay, if you switch to DDP - your retail selling price for Eu customers would need to be net of U.K. vat (zero vat as you are exporting outside of U.K.) - so when you add the DDP charges for the customer they are essentially paying the same price, but don’t have additional import fees to pay when the order is delivered to their address. DDP? Oh dear The risks to the seller are broad and include VAT charges, bribery, and storage costs if unexpected delays occur. A DDP benefits a buyer as the seller assumes all of the liabilities and costs. I thought this brexit thing was easy. Where is the risk if the buyer has paid you for the goods, and as the seller, and IOR, taken responsibility for and added these costs to the invoice the buyer has already paid you for. Where would the delay and storage cost be if the transit, duty and taxes have already been completed an cleared prior to the order reaching the receiving custom border . In the case of IfemNaughtyDesires they will need to look into how the OMP they are using will be handling this on their behalf (unless they operate their own website in which case they can easily do it themselves and not lose any sales) All this extra hassle cost and red tape. DDP is used by carousel vat fraudsters. Oh to be able to trade with none of this expense with our biggest market, worrisome times for business." There is a perfectly acceptable and safe route to market. You either want to get on board with it and continue to trade, or you don't - in which case, accept the choice you are making and don't waste energy moaning about it. As you mentioned earlier up the thread, it's not always about cost - service, website and of course, unique product are driving factors for a successful business. Customers will still buy from you If you are offering something they want. | |||
"I sell unique products. Eu customers can still buy from you without having the surprise of import vat to pay, if you switch to DDP - your retail selling price for Eu customers would need to be net of U.K. vat (zero vat as you are exporting outside of U.K.) - so when you add the DDP charges for the customer they are essentially paying the same price, but don’t have additional import fees to pay when the order is delivered to their address. DDP? Oh dear The risks to the seller are broad and include VAT charges, bribery, and storage costs if unexpected delays occur. A DDP benefits a buyer as the seller assumes all of the liabilities and costs. I thought this brexit thing was easy. Where is the risk if the buyer has paid you for the goods, and as the seller, and IOR, taken responsibility for and added these costs to the invoice the buyer has already paid you for. Where would the delay and storage cost be if the transit, duty and taxes have already been completed an cleared prior to the order reaching the receiving custom border . In the case of IfemNaughtyDesires they will need to look into how the OMP they are using will be handling this on their behalf (unless they operate their own website in which case they can easily do it themselves and not lose any sales) All this extra hassle cost and red tape. DDP is used by carousel vat fraudsters. Oh to be able to trade with none of this expense with our biggest market, worrisome times for business. There is a perfectly acceptable and safe route to market. You either want to get on board with it and continue to trade, or you don't - in which case, accept the choice you are making and don't waste energy moaning about it. As you mentioned earlier up the thread, it's not always about cost - service, website and of course, unique product are driving factors for a successful business. Customers will still buy from you If you are offering something they want. " | |||
"I sell unique products. Eu customers can still buy from you without having the surprise of import vat to pay, if you switch to DDP - your retail selling price for Eu customers would need to be net of U.K. vat (zero vat as you are exporting outside of U.K.) - so when you add the DDP charges for the customer they are essentially paying the same price, but don’t have additional import fees to pay when the order is delivered to their address. DDP? Oh dear The risks to the seller are broad and include VAT charges, bribery, and storage costs if unexpected delays occur. A DDP benefits a buyer as the seller assumes all of the liabilities and costs. I thought this brexit thing was easy. Where is the risk if the buyer has paid you for the goods, and as the seller, and IOR, taken responsibility for and added these costs to the invoice the buyer has already paid you for. Where would the delay and storage cost be if the transit, duty and taxes have already been completed an cleared prior to the order reaching the receiving custom border . In the case of IfemNaughtyDesires they will need to look into how the OMP they are using will be handling this on their behalf (unless they operate their own website in which case they can easily do it themselves and not lose any sales) All this extra hassle cost and red tape. DDP is used by carousel vat fraudsters. Oh to be able to trade with none of this expense with our biggest market, worrisome times for business. Positive thinking will win the day "That and the DDP will win the day | |||
"I sell unique products. Eu customers can still buy from you without having the surprise of import vat to pay, if you switch to DDP - your retail selling price for Eu customers would need to be net of U.K. vat (zero vat as you are exporting outside of U.K.) - so when you add the DDP charges for the customer they are essentially paying the same price, but don’t have additional import fees to pay when the order is delivered to their address. DDP? Oh dear The risks to the seller are broad and include VAT charges, bribery, and storage costs if unexpected delays occur. A DDP benefits a buyer as the seller assumes all of the liabilities and costs. I thought this brexit thing was easy. Where is the risk if the buyer has paid you for the goods, and as the seller, and IOR, taken responsibility for and added these costs to the invoice the buyer has already paid you for. Where would the delay and storage cost be if the transit, duty and taxes have already been completed an cleared prior to the order reaching the receiving custom border . In the case of IfemNaughtyDesires they will need to look into how the OMP they are using will be handling this on their behalf (unless they operate their own website in which case they can easily do it themselves and not lose any sales) All this extra hassle cost and red tape. DDP is used by carousel vat fraudsters. Oh to be able to trade with none of this expense with our biggest market, worrisome times for business. Positive thinking will win the day
That and the DDP will win the day "0% VAT on your export products will help  | |||
"I sell unique products. Eu customers can still buy from you without having the surprise of import vat to pay, if you switch to DDP - your retail selling price for Eu customers would need to be net of U.K. vat (zero vat as you are exporting outside of U.K.) - so when you add the DDP charges for the customer they are essentially paying the same price, but don’t have additional import fees to pay when the order is delivered to their address. DDP? Oh dear The risks to the seller are broad and include VAT charges, bribery, and storage costs if unexpected delays occur. A DDP benefits a buyer as the seller assumes all of the liabilities and costs. I thought this brexit thing was easy. Where is the risk if the buyer has paid you for the goods, and as the seller, and IOR, taken responsibility for and added these costs to the invoice the buyer has already paid you for. Where would the delay and storage cost be if the transit, duty and taxes have already been completed an cleared prior to the order reaching the receiving custom border . In the case of IfemNaughtyDesires they will need to look into how the OMP they are using will be handling this on their behalf (unless they operate their own website in which case they can easily do it themselves and not lose any sales) All this extra hassle cost and red tape. DDP is used by carousel vat fraudsters. Oh to be able to trade with none of this expense with our biggest market, worrisome times for business. Positive thinking will win the day
That and the DDP will win the day
0% VAT on your export products will help "Why dont you order a machine or a container from china and see how that goes for you maybe get the chinese seller to do a DDP for u  | |||
"I sell unique products. Eu customers can still buy from you without having the surprise of import vat to pay, if you switch to DDP - your retail selling price for Eu customers would need to be net of U.K. vat (zero vat as you are exporting outside of U.K.) - so when you add the DDP charges for the customer they are essentially paying the same price, but don’t have additional import fees to pay when the order is delivered to their address. DDP? Oh dear The risks to the seller are broad and include VAT charges, bribery, and storage costs if unexpected delays occur. A DDP benefits a buyer as the seller assumes all of the liabilities and costs. I thought this brexit thing was easy. Where is the risk if the buyer has paid you for the goods, and as the seller, and IOR, taken responsibility for and added these costs to the invoice the buyer has already paid you for. Where would the delay and storage cost be if the transit, duty and taxes have already been completed an cleared prior to the order reaching the receiving custom border . In the case of IfemNaughtyDesires they will need to look into how the OMP they are using will be handling this on their behalf (unless they operate their own website in which case they can easily do it themselves and not lose any sales) All this extra hassle cost and red tape. DDP is used by carousel vat fraudsters. Oh to be able to trade with none of this expense with our biggest market, worrisome times for business. Positive thinking will win the day
That and the DDP will win the day
0% VAT on your export products will help
Why dont you order a machine or a container from china and see how that goes for you maybe get the chinese seller to do a DDP for u "Sounds like you've had your fingers burned doing this? | |||
"I sell unique products. Eu customers can still buy from you without having the surprise of import vat to pay, if you switch to DDP - your retail selling price for Eu customers would need to be net of U.K. vat (zero vat as you are exporting outside of U.K.) - so when you add the DDP charges for the customer they are essentially paying the same price, but don’t have additional import fees to pay when the order is delivered to their address. DDP? Oh dear The risks to the seller are broad and include VAT charges, bribery, and storage costs if unexpected delays occur. A DDP benefits a buyer as the seller assumes all of the liabilities and costs. I thought this brexit thing was easy. Where is the risk if the buyer has paid you for the goods, and as the seller, and IOR, taken responsibility for and added these costs to the invoice the buyer has already paid you for. Where would the delay and storage cost be if the transit, duty and taxes have already been completed an cleared prior to the order reaching the receiving custom border . In the case of IfemNaughtyDesires they will need to look into how the OMP they are using will be handling this on their behalf (unless they operate their own website in which case they can easily do it themselves and not lose any sales) All this extra hassle cost and red tape. DDP is used by carousel vat fraudsters. Oh to be able to trade with none of this expense with our biggest market, worrisome times for business. Positive thinking will win the day
That and the DDP will win the day
0% VAT on your export products will help
Why dont you order a machine or a container from china and see how that goes for you maybe get the chinese seller to do a DDP for u
Sounds like you've had your fingers burned doing this?
"Think about it , say you've a hundred customers you pay someone to do all the DDP forms that's more expense straight away, goods arrive overseas and foreign customs insist we need vat and some duty on this, can u see why there may be a risk ? | |||
"I sell unique products. Eu customers can still buy from you without having the surprise of import vat to pay, if you switch to DDP - your retail selling price for Eu customers would need to be net of U.K. vat (zero vat as you are exporting outside of U.K.) - so when you add the DDP charges for the customer they are essentially paying the same price, but don’t have additional import fees to pay when the order is delivered to their address. DDP? Oh dear The risks to the seller are broad and include VAT charges, bribery, and storage costs if unexpected delays occur. A DDP benefits a buyer as the seller assumes all of the liabilities and costs. I thought this brexit thing was easy. Where is the risk if the buyer has paid you for the goods, and as the seller, and IOR, taken responsibility for and added these costs to the invoice the buyer has already paid you for. Where would the delay and storage cost be if the transit, duty and taxes have already been completed an cleared prior to the order reaching the receiving custom border . In the case of IfemNaughtyDesires they will need to look into how the OMP they are using will be handling this on their behalf (unless they operate their own website in which case they can easily do it themselves and not lose any sales) All this extra hassle cost and red tape. DDP is used by carousel vat fraudsters. Oh to be able to trade with none of this expense with our biggest market, worrisome times for business. Positive thinking will win the day
That and the DDP will win the day
0% VAT on your export products will help
Why dont you order a machine or a container from china and see how that goes for you maybe get the chinese seller to do a DDP for u
Sounds like you've had your fingers burned doing this?
Think about it , say you've a hundred customers you pay someone to do all the DDP forms that's more expense straight away, goods arrive overseas and foreign customs insist we need vat and some duty on this, can u see why there may be a risk ?
"There is no risk, they will and should put VAT on the item, that's how it works. The VAT gets re-added at the border, effectively the product stay the same price the VAT moves to the correct government. | |||
"I sell unique products. Eu customers can still buy from you without having the surprise of import vat to pay, if you switch to DDP - your retail selling price for Eu customers would need to be net of U.K. vat (zero vat as you are exporting outside of U.K.) - so when you add the DDP charges for the customer they are essentially paying the same price, but don’t have additional import fees to pay when the order is delivered to their address. DDP? Oh dear The risks to the seller are broad and include VAT charges, bribery, and storage costs if unexpected delays occur. A DDP benefits a buyer as the seller assumes all of the liabilities and costs. I thought this brexit thing was easy. Where is the risk if the buyer has paid you for the goods, and as the seller, and IOR, taken responsibility for and added these costs to the invoice the buyer has already paid you for. Where would the delay and storage cost be if the transit, duty and taxes have already been completed an cleared prior to the order reaching the receiving custom border . In the case of IfemNaughtyDesires they will need to look into how the OMP they are using will be handling this on their behalf (unless they operate their own website in which case they can easily do it themselves and not lose any sales) All this extra hassle cost and red tape. DDP is used by carousel vat fraudsters. Oh to be able to trade with none of this expense with our biggest market, worrisome times for business. Positive thinking will win the day
That and the DDP will win the day
0% VAT on your export products will help
Why dont you order a machine or a container from china and see how that goes for you maybe get the chinese seller to do a DDP for u
Sounds like you've had your fingers burned doing this?
Think about it , say you've a hundred customers you pay someone to do all the DDP forms that's more expense straight away, goods arrive overseas and foreign customs insist we need vat and some duty on this, can u see why there may be a risk ?
"Oh I thought you actually had a bad experience of doing a FCL from China on DDP
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"I sell unique products. Eu customers can still buy from you without having the surprise of import vat to pay, if you switch to DDP - your retail selling price for Eu customers would need to be net of U.K. vat (zero vat as you are exporting outside of U.K.) - so when you add the DDP charges for the customer they are essentially paying the same price, but don’t have additional import fees to pay when the order is delivered to their address. DDP? Oh dear The risks to the seller are broad and include VAT charges, bribery, and storage costs if unexpected delays occur. A DDP benefits a buyer as the seller assumes all of the liabilities and costs. I thought this brexit thing was easy. Where is the risk if the buyer has paid you for the goods, and as the seller, and IOR, taken responsibility for and added these costs to the invoice the buyer has already paid you for. Where would the delay and storage cost be if the transit, duty and taxes have already been completed an cleared prior to the order reaching the receiving custom border . In the case of IfemNaughtyDesires they will need to look into how the OMP they are using will be handling this on their behalf (unless they operate their own website in which case they can easily do it themselves and not lose any sales) All this extra hassle cost and red tape. DDP is used by carousel vat fraudsters. Oh to be able to trade with none of this expense with our biggest market, worrisome times for business. Positive thinking will win the day
That and the DDP will win the day
0% VAT on your export products will help
Why dont you order a machine or a container from china and see how that goes for you maybe get the chinese seller to do a DDP for u
Sounds like you've had your fingers burned doing this?
Think about it , say you've a hundred customers you pay someone to do all the DDP forms that's more expense straight away, goods arrive overseas and foreign customs insist we need vat and some duty on this, can u see why there may be a risk ?
There is no risk, they will and should put VAT on the item, that's how it works. The VAT gets re-added at the border, effectively the product stay the same price the VAT moves to the correct government."Oh dear, unlike in a free market which we had and worked seamlessly once again with a DDP the seller (uk) agrees to assume ALL risk on costs and shipping any custom duty, import costs, clearance costs will be borne by the seller, I fail to see how any uk business would benefit from this brexit pig. | |||
"I sell unique products. Eu customers can still buy from you without having the surprise of import vat to pay, if you switch to DDP - your retail selling price for Eu customers would need to be net of U.K. vat (zero vat as you are exporting outside of U.K.) - so when you add the DDP charges for the customer they are essentially paying the same price, but don’t have additional import fees to pay when the order is delivered to their address. DDP? Oh dear The risks to the seller are broad and include VAT charges, bribery, and storage costs if unexpected delays occur. A DDP benefits a buyer as the seller assumes all of the liabilities and costs. I thought this brexit thing was easy. Where is the risk if the buyer has paid you for the goods, and as the seller, and IOR, taken responsibility for and added these costs to the invoice the buyer has already paid you for. Where would the delay and storage cost be if the transit, duty and taxes have already been completed an cleared prior to the order reaching the receiving custom border . In the case of IfemNaughtyDesires they will need to look into how the OMP they are using will be handling this on their behalf (unless they operate their own website in which case they can easily do it themselves and not lose any sales) All this extra hassle cost and red tape. DDP is used by carousel vat fraudsters. Oh to be able to trade with none of this expense with our biggest market, worrisome times for business. Positive thinking will win the day
That and the DDP will win the day
0% VAT on your export products will help
Why dont you order a machine or a container from china and see how that goes for you maybe get the chinese seller to do a DDP for u
Sounds like you've had your fingers burned doing this?
Think about it , say you've a hundred customers you pay someone to do all the DDP forms that's more expense straight away, goods arrive overseas and foreign customs insist we need vat and some duty on this, can u see why there may be a risk ?
Oh I thought you actually had a bad experience of doing a FCL from China on DDP
"I did take a couple of containers of antiques in and they attracted a lower vat rate. | |||
"I sell unique products. Eu customers can still buy from you without having the surprise of import vat to pay, if you switch to DDP - your retail selling price for Eu customers would need to be net of U.K. vat (zero vat as you are exporting outside of U.K.) - so when you add the DDP charges for the customer they are essentially paying the same price, but don’t have additional import fees to pay when the order is delivered to their address. DDP? Oh dear The risks to the seller are broad and include VAT charges, bribery, and storage costs if unexpected delays occur. A DDP benefits a buyer as the seller assumes all of the liabilities and costs. I thought this brexit thing was easy. Where is the risk if the buyer has paid you for the goods, and as the seller, and IOR, taken responsibility for and added these costs to the invoice the buyer has already paid you for. Where would the delay and storage cost be if the transit, duty and taxes have already been completed an cleared prior to the order reaching the receiving custom border . In the case of IfemNaughtyDesires they will need to look into how the OMP they are using will be handling this on their behalf (unless they operate their own website in which case they can easily do it themselves and not lose any sales) All this extra hassle cost and red tape. DDP is used by carousel vat fraudsters. Oh to be able to trade with none of this expense with our biggest market, worrisome times for business. Positive thinking will win the day
That and the DDP will win the day
0% VAT on your export products will help
Why dont you order a machine or a container from china and see how that goes for you maybe get the chinese seller to do a DDP for u
Sounds like you've had your fingers burned doing this?
Think about it , say you've a hundred customers you pay someone to do all the DDP forms that's more expense straight away, goods arrive overseas and foreign customs insist we need vat and some duty on this, can u see why there may be a risk ?
There is no risk, they will and should put VAT on the item, that's how it works. The VAT gets re-added at the border, effectively the product stay the same price the VAT moves to the correct government.
Oh dear, unlike in a free market which we had and worked seamlessly once again with a DDP the seller (uk) agrees to assume ALL risk on costs and shipping any custom duty, import costs, clearance costs will be borne by the seller, I fail to see how any uk business would benefit from this brexit pig."What do you think happens prior to the order leaving the sellers uk premises ? | |||
"I sell unique products. Eu customers can still buy from you without having the surprise of import vat to pay, if you switch to DDP - your retail selling price for Eu customers would need to be net of U.K. vat (zero vat as you are exporting outside of U.K.) - so when you add the DDP charges for the customer they are essentially paying the same price, but don’t have additional import fees to pay when the order is delivered to their address. DDP? Oh dear The risks to the seller are broad and include VAT charges, bribery, and storage costs if unexpected delays occur. A DDP benefits a buyer as the seller assumes all of the liabilities and costs. I thought this brexit thing was easy. Where is the risk if the buyer has paid you for the goods, and as the seller, and IOR, taken responsibility for and added these costs to the invoice the buyer has already paid you for. Where would the delay and storage cost be if the transit, duty and taxes have already been completed an cleared prior to the order reaching the receiving custom border . In the case of IfemNaughtyDesires they will need to look into how the OMP they are using will be handling this on their behalf (unless they operate their own website in which case they can easily do it themselves and not lose any sales) All this extra hassle cost and red tape. DDP is used by carousel vat fraudsters. Oh to be able to trade with none of this expense with our biggest market, worrisome times for business. Positive thinking will win the day
That and the DDP will win the day
0% VAT on your export products will help
Why dont you order a machine or a container from china and see how that goes for you maybe get the chinese seller to do a DDP for u
Sounds like you've had your fingers burned doing this?
Think about it , say you've a hundred customers you pay someone to do all the DDP forms that's more expense straight away, goods arrive overseas and foreign customs insist we need vat and some duty on this, can u see why there may be a risk ?
Oh I thought you actually had a bad experience of doing a FCL from China on DDP
I did take a couple of containers of antiques in and they attracted a lower vat rate."The incoterms from supplier were ddp? Why was there an issue? You ended up paying more than you expected? Some detail would help so anyone reading your bad experience can avoid the problem/issue you encountered | |||
"I sell unique products. Eu customers can still buy from you without having the surprise of import vat to pay, if you switch to DDP - your retail selling price for Eu customers would need to be net of U.K. vat (zero vat as you are exporting outside of U.K.) - so when you add the DDP charges for the customer they are essentially paying the same price, but don’t have additional import fees to pay when the order is delivered to their address. DDP? Oh dear The risks to the seller are broad and include VAT charges, bribery, and storage costs if unexpected delays occur. A DDP benefits a buyer as the seller assumes all of the liabilities and costs. I thought this brexit thing was easy. Where is the risk if the buyer has paid you for the goods, and as the seller, and IOR, taken responsibility for and added these costs to the invoice the buyer has already paid you for. Where would the delay and storage cost be if the transit, duty and taxes have already been completed an cleared prior to the order reaching the receiving custom border . In the case of IfemNaughtyDesires they will need to look into how the OMP they are using will be handling this on their behalf (unless they operate their own website in which case they can easily do it themselves and not lose any sales) All this extra hassle cost and red tape. DDP is used by carousel vat fraudsters. Oh to be able to trade with none of this expense with our biggest market, worrisome times for business. Positive thinking will win the day
That and the DDP will win the day
0% VAT on your export products will help
Why dont you order a machine or a container from china and see how that goes for you maybe get the chinese seller to do a DDP for u
Sounds like you've had your fingers burned doing this?
Think about it , say you've a hundred customers you pay someone to do all the DDP forms that's more expense straight away, goods arrive overseas and foreign customs insist we need vat and some duty on this, can u see why there may be a risk ?
There is no risk, they will and should put VAT on the item, that's how it works. The VAT gets re-added at the border, effectively the product stay the same price the VAT moves to the correct government.
Oh dear, unlike in a free market which we had and worked seamlessly once again with a DDP the seller (uk) agrees to assume ALL risk on costs and shipping any custom duty, import costs, clearance costs will be borne by the seller, I fail to see how any uk business would benefit from this brexit pig.
What do you think happens prior to the order leaving the sellers uk premises ?"Let me guess, the uk seller finds a free accountant who spends his time checking for hidden costs ? No amount of lipstick in the world will disguise this thing. | |||
"I sell unique products. Eu customers can still buy from you without having the surprise of import vat to pay, if you switch to DDP - your retail selling price for Eu customers would need to be net of U.K. vat (zero vat as you are exporting outside of U.K.) - so when you add the DDP charges for the customer they are essentially paying the same price, but don’t have additional import fees to pay when the order is delivered to their address. DDP? Oh dear The risks to the seller are broad and include VAT charges, bribery, and storage costs if unexpected delays occur. A DDP benefits a buyer as the seller assumes all of the liabilities and costs. I thought this brexit thing was easy. Where is the risk if the buyer has paid you for the goods, and as the seller, and IOR, taken responsibility for and added these costs to the invoice the buyer has already paid you for. Where would the delay and storage cost be if the transit, duty and taxes have already been completed an cleared prior to the order reaching the receiving custom border . In the case of IfemNaughtyDesires they will need to look into how the OMP they are using will be handling this on their behalf (unless they operate their own website in which case they can easily do it themselves and not lose any sales) All this extra hassle cost and red tape. DDP is used by carousel vat fraudsters. Oh to be able to trade with none of this expense with our biggest market, worrisome times for business. Positive thinking will win the day
That and the DDP will win the day
0% VAT on your export products will help
Why dont you order a machine or a container from china and see how that goes for you maybe get the chinese seller to do a DDP for u
Sounds like you've had your fingers burned doing this?
Think about it , say you've a hundred customers you pay someone to do all the DDP forms that's more expense straight away, goods arrive overseas and foreign customs insist we need vat and some duty on this, can u see why there may be a risk ?
Oh I thought you actually had a bad experience of doing a FCL from China on DDP
I did take a couple of containers of antiques in and they attracted a lower vat rate.
The incoterms from supplier were ddp? Why was there an issue? You ended up paying more than you expected?
Some detail would help so anyone reading your bad experience can avoid the problem/issue you encountered "Is this another brexit fantasy a world with no import vat. Any containers I've imported I've had no choice on paying vat and some other costs, but maybe u know better  | |||
"I sell unique products. Eu customers can still buy from you without having the surprise of import vat to pay, if you switch to DDP - your retail selling price for Eu customers would need to be net of U.K. vat (zero vat as you are exporting outside of U.K.) - so when you add the DDP charges for the customer they are essentially paying the same price, but don’t have additional import fees to pay when the order is delivered to their address. DDP? Oh dear The risks to the seller are broad and include VAT charges, bribery, and storage costs if unexpected delays occur. A DDP benefits a buyer as the seller assumes all of the liabilities and costs. I thought this brexit thing was easy. Where is the risk if the buyer has paid you for the goods, and as the seller, and IOR, taken responsibility for and added these costs to the invoice the buyer has already paid you for. Where would the delay and storage cost be if the transit, duty and taxes have already been completed an cleared prior to the order reaching the receiving custom border . In the case of IfemNaughtyDesires they will need to look into how the OMP they are using will be handling this on their behalf (unless they operate their own website in which case they can easily do it themselves and not lose any sales) All this extra hassle cost and red tape. DDP is used by carousel vat fraudsters. Oh to be able to trade with none of this expense with our biggest market, worrisome times for business. Positive thinking will win the day
That and the DDP will win the day
0% VAT on your export products will help
Why dont you order a machine or a container from china and see how that goes for you maybe get the chinese seller to do a DDP for u
Sounds like you've had your fingers burned doing this?
Think about it , say you've a hundred customers you pay someone to do all the DDP forms that's more expense straight away, goods arrive overseas and foreign customs insist we need vat and some duty on this, can u see why there may be a risk ?
Oh I thought you actually had a bad experience of doing a FCL from China on DDP
I did take a couple of containers of antiques in and they attracted a lower vat rate.
The incoterms from supplier were ddp? Why was there an issue? You ended up paying more than you expected?
Some detail would help so anyone reading your bad experience can avoid the problem/issue you encountered
Is this another brexit fantasy a world with no import vat. Any containers I've imported I've had no choice on paying vat and some other costs, but maybe u know better "Just asking for your experience of DDP (I haven't said anything about a fantasy of no vat on imports) - you have mentioned a few times why DDP is bad/risky and you mentioned buying a machine or container from China using ddp. Were you really expecting no further costs and vat on your containers from China? The seller you bought the containers of antiques from sold them to you with DDP terms? | |||
"I sell unique products. Eu customers can still buy from you without having the surprise of import vat to pay, if you switch to DDP - your retail selling price for Eu customers would need to be net of U.K. vat (zero vat as you are exporting outside of U.K.) - so when you add the DDP charges for the customer they are essentially paying the same price, but don’t have additional import fees to pay when the order is delivered to their address. DDP? Oh dear The risks to the seller are broad and include VAT charges, bribery, and storage costs if unexpected delays occur. A DDP benefits a buyer as the seller assumes all of the liabilities and costs. I thought this brexit thing was easy. Where is the risk if the buyer has paid you for the goods, and as the seller, and IOR, taken responsibility for and added these costs to the invoice the buyer has already paid you for. Where would the delay and storage cost be if the transit, duty and taxes have already been completed an cleared prior to the order reaching the receiving custom border . In the case of IfemNaughtyDesires they will need to look into how the OMP they are using will be handling this on their behalf (unless they operate their own website in which case they can easily do it themselves and not lose any sales) All this extra hassle cost and red tape. DDP is used by carousel vat fraudsters. Oh to be able to trade with none of this expense with our biggest market, worrisome times for business. Positive thinking will win the day
That and the DDP will win the day
0% VAT on your export products will help
Why dont you order a machine or a container from china and see how that goes for you maybe get the chinese seller to do a DDP for u
Sounds like you've had your fingers burned doing this?
Think about it , say you've a hundred customers you pay someone to do all the DDP forms that's more expense straight away, goods arrive overseas and foreign customs insist we need vat and some duty on this, can u see why there may be a risk ?
There is no risk, they will and should put VAT on the item, that's how it works. The VAT gets re-added at the border, effectively the product stay the same price the VAT moves to the correct government.
Oh dear, unlike in a free market which we had and worked seamlessly once again with a DDP the seller (uk) agrees to assume ALL risk on costs and shipping any custom duty, import costs, clearance costs will be borne by the seller, I fail to see how any uk business would benefit from this brexit pig."You may not believe this but Brexit was done for the "will of the people" business was just a close second | |||
"I sell unique products. Eu customers can still buy from you without having the surprise of import vat to pay, if you switch to DDP - your retail selling price for Eu customers would need to be net of U.K. vat (zero vat as you are exporting outside of U.K.) - so when you add the DDP charges for the customer they are essentially paying the same price, but don’t have additional import fees to pay when the order is delivered to their address. DDP? Oh dear The risks to the seller are broad and include VAT charges, bribery, and storage costs if unexpected delays occur. A DDP benefits a buyer as the seller assumes all of the liabilities and costs. I thought this brexit thing was easy. Where is the risk if the buyer has paid you for the goods, and as the seller, and IOR, taken responsibility for and added these costs to the invoice the buyer has already paid you for. Where would the delay and storage cost be if the transit, duty and taxes have already been completed an cleared prior to the order reaching the receiving custom border . In the case of IfemNaughtyDesires they will need to look into how the OMP they are using will be handling this on their behalf (unless they operate their own website in which case they can easily do it themselves and not lose any sales) All this extra hassle cost and red tape. DDP is used by carousel vat fraudsters. Oh to be able to trade with none of this expense with our biggest market, worrisome times for business. Positive thinking will win the day
That and the DDP will win the day
0% VAT on your export products will help
Why dont you order a machine or a container from china and see how that goes for you maybe get the chinese seller to do a DDP for u
Sounds like you've had your fingers burned doing this?
Think about it , say you've a hundred customers you pay someone to do all the DDP forms that's more expense straight away, goods arrive overseas and foreign customs insist we need vat and some duty on this, can u see why there may be a risk ?
There is no risk, they will and should put VAT on the item, that's how it works. The VAT gets re-added at the border, effectively the product stay the same price the VAT moves to the correct government.
Oh dear, unlike in a free market which we had and worked seamlessly once again with a DDP the seller (uk) agrees to assume ALL risk on costs and shipping any custom duty, import costs, clearance costs will be borne by the seller, I fail to see how any uk business would benefit from this brexit pig.
What do you think happens prior to the order leaving the sellers uk premises ?
Let me guess, the uk seller finds a free accountant who spends his time checking for hidden costs ? No amount of lipstick in the world will disguise this thing."Hey i've spent a life time polishing turds but you can only polish em so much  | |||
"I sell unique products. Eu customers can still buy from you without having the surprise of import vat to pay, if you switch to DDP - your retail selling price for Eu customers would need to be net of U.K. vat (zero vat as you are exporting outside of U.K.) - so when you add the DDP charges for the customer they are essentially paying the same price, but don’t have additional import fees to pay when the order is delivered to their address. DDP? Oh dear The risks to the seller are broad and include VAT charges, bribery, and storage costs if unexpected delays occur. A DDP benefits a buyer as the seller assumes all of the liabilities and costs. I thought this brexit thing was easy. Where is the risk if the buyer has paid you for the goods, and as the seller, and IOR, taken responsibility for and added these costs to the invoice the buyer has already paid you for. Where would the delay and storage cost be if the transit, duty and taxes have already been completed an cleared prior to the order reaching the receiving custom border . In the case of IfemNaughtyDesires they will need to look into how the OMP they are using will be handling this on their behalf (unless they operate their own website in which case they can easily do it themselves and not lose any sales) All this extra hassle cost and red tape. DDP is used by carousel vat fraudsters. Oh to be able to trade with none of this expense with our biggest market, worrisome times for business. Positive thinking will win the day
That and the DDP will win the day
0% VAT on your export products will help
Why dont you order a machine or a container from china and see how that goes for you maybe get the chinese seller to do a DDP for u
Sounds like you've had your fingers burned doing this?
Think about it , say you've a hundred customers you pay someone to do all the DDP forms that's more expense straight away, goods arrive overseas and foreign customs insist we need vat and some duty on this, can u see why there may be a risk ?
Oh I thought you actually had a bad experience of doing a FCL from China on DDP
I did take a couple of containers of antiques in and they attracted a lower vat rate.
The incoterms from supplier were ddp? Why was there an issue? You ended up paying more than you expected?
Some detail would help so anyone reading your bad experience can avoid the problem/issue you encountered
Is this another brexit fantasy a world with no import vat. Any containers I've imported I've had no choice on paying vat and some other costs, but maybe u know better
Just asking for your experience of DDP (I haven't said anything about a fantasy of no vat on imports) - you have mentioned a few times why DDP is bad/risky and you mentioned buying a machine or container from China using ddp.
Were you really expecting no further costs and vat on your containers from China? The seller you bought the containers of antiques from sold them to you with DDP terms?
"Why would he do that ? Why would he take the costs it's your fantasy.The seller bears all the costs and risks involved in bringing the goods to the place of destination and has an obligation to clear the goods not only for export but also for import, to pay any duty for both export and import and to carry out all customs formalities, wake up. | |||
"I sell unique products. Eu customers can still buy from you without having the surprise of import vat to pay, if you switch to DDP - your retail selling price for Eu customers would need to be net of U.K. vat (zero vat as you are exporting outside of U.K.) - so when you add the DDP charges for the customer they are essentially paying the same price, but don’t have additional import fees to pay when the order is delivered to their address. DDP? Oh dear The risks to the seller are broad and include VAT charges, bribery, and storage costs if unexpected delays occur. A DDP benefits a buyer as the seller assumes all of the liabilities and costs. I thought this brexit thing was easy. Where is the risk if the buyer has paid you for the goods, and as the seller, and IOR, taken responsibility for and added these costs to the invoice the buyer has already paid you for. Where would the delay and storage cost be if the transit, duty and taxes have already been completed an cleared prior to the order reaching the receiving custom border . In the case of IfemNaughtyDesires they will need to look into how the OMP they are using will be handling this on their behalf (unless they operate their own website in which case they can easily do it themselves and not lose any sales) All this extra hassle cost and red tape. DDP is used by carousel vat fraudsters. Oh to be able to trade with none of this expense with our biggest market, worrisome times for business. Positive thinking will win the day
That and the DDP will win the day
0% VAT on your export products will help
Why dont you order a machine or a container from china and see how that goes for you maybe get the chinese seller to do a DDP for u
Sounds like you've had your fingers burned doing this?
Think about it , say you've a hundred customers you pay someone to do all the DDP forms that's more expense straight away, goods arrive overseas and foreign customs insist we need vat and some duty on this, can u see why there may be a risk ?
There is no risk, they will and should put VAT on the item, that's how it works. The VAT gets re-added at the border, effectively the product stay the same price the VAT moves to the correct government.
Oh dear, unlike in a free market which we had and worked seamlessly once again with a DDP the seller (uk) agrees to assume ALL risk on costs and shipping any custom duty, import costs, clearance costs will be borne by the seller, I fail to see how any uk business would benefit from this brexit pig.
You may not believe this but Brexit was done for the "will of the people" business was just a close second "The will of some people, no business in their right mind would want brexit it's just a pig that needs to be put down asap. | |||
"I sell unique products. Eu customers can still buy from you without having the surprise of import vat to pay, if you switch to DDP - your retail selling price for Eu customers would need to be net of U.K. vat (zero vat as you are exporting outside of U.K.) - so when you add the DDP charges for the customer they are essentially paying the same price, but don’t have additional import fees to pay when the order is delivered to their address. DDP? Oh dear The risks to the seller are broad and include VAT charges, bribery, and storage costs if unexpected delays occur. A DDP benefits a buyer as the seller assumes all of the liabilities and costs. I thought this brexit thing was easy. Where is the risk if the buyer has paid you for the goods, and as the seller, and IOR, taken responsibility for and added these costs to the invoice the buyer has already paid you for. Where would the delay and storage cost be if the transit, duty and taxes have already been completed an cleared prior to the order reaching the receiving custom border . In the case of IfemNaughtyDesires they will need to look into how the OMP they are using will be handling this on their behalf (unless they operate their own website in which case they can easily do it themselves and not lose any sales) All this extra hassle cost and red tape. DDP is used by carousel vat fraudsters. Oh to be able to trade with none of this expense with our biggest market, worrisome times for business. Positive thinking will win the day
That and the DDP will win the day
0% VAT on your export products will help
Why dont you order a machine or a container from china and see how that goes for you maybe get the chinese seller to do a DDP for u
Sounds like you've had your fingers burned doing this?
Think about it , say you've a hundred customers you pay someone to do all the DDP forms that's more expense straight away, goods arrive overseas and foreign customs insist we need vat and some duty on this, can u see why there may be a risk ?
There is no risk, they will and should put VAT on the item, that's how it works. The VAT gets re-added at the border, effectively the product stay the same price the VAT moves to the correct government.
Oh dear, unlike in a free market which we had and worked seamlessly once again with a DDP the seller (uk) agrees to assume ALL risk on costs and shipping any custom duty, import costs, clearance costs will be borne by the seller, I fail to see how any uk business would benefit from this brexit pig.
You may not believe this but Brexit was done for the "will of the people" business was just a close second
The will of some people, no business in their right mind would want brexit it's just a pig that needs to be put down asap."Its here to stay mate so i would get used to it if i was you.  | |||
"I sell unique products. Eu customers can still buy from you without having the surprise of import vat to pay, if you switch to DDP - your retail selling price for Eu customers would need to be net of U.K. vat (zero vat as you are exporting outside of U.K.) - so when you add the DDP charges for the customer they are essentially paying the same price, but don’t have additional import fees to pay when the order is delivered to their address. DDP? Oh dear The risks to the seller are broad and include VAT charges, bribery, and storage costs if unexpected delays occur. A DDP benefits a buyer as the seller assumes all of the liabilities and costs. I thought this brexit thing was easy. Where is the risk if the buyer has paid you for the goods, and as the seller, and IOR, taken responsibility for and added these costs to the invoice the buyer has already paid you for. Where would the delay and storage cost be if the transit, duty and taxes have already been completed an cleared prior to the order reaching the receiving custom border . In the case of IfemNaughtyDesires they will need to look into how the OMP they are using will be handling this on their behalf (unless they operate their own website in which case they can easily do it themselves and not lose any sales) All this extra hassle cost and red tape. DDP is used by carousel vat fraudsters. Oh to be able to trade with none of this expense with our biggest market, worrisome times for business. Positive thinking will win the day
That and the DDP will win the day
0% VAT on your export products will help
Why dont you order a machine or a container from china and see how that goes for you maybe get the chinese seller to do a DDP for u
Sounds like you've had your fingers burned doing this?
Think about it , say you've a hundred customers you pay someone to do all the DDP forms that's more expense straight away, goods arrive overseas and foreign customs insist we need vat and some duty on this, can u see why there may be a risk ?
There is no risk, they will and should put VAT on the item, that's how it works. The VAT gets re-added at the border, effectively the product stay the same price the VAT moves to the correct government.
Oh dear, unlike in a free market which we had and worked seamlessly once again with a DDP the seller (uk) agrees to assume ALL risk on costs and shipping any custom duty, import costs, clearance costs will be borne by the seller, I fail to see how any uk business would benefit from this brexit pig.
You may not believe this but Brexit was done for the "will of the people" business was just a close second
The will of some people, no business in their right mind would want brexit it's just a pig that needs to be put down asap."The will of the people. Time to move on. | |||
"I sell unique products. Eu customers can still buy from you without having the surprise of import vat to pay, if you switch to DDP - your retail selling price for Eu customers would need to be net of U.K. vat (zero vat as you are exporting outside of U.K.) - so when you add the DDP charges for the customer they are essentially paying the same price, but don’t have additional import fees to pay when the order is delivered to their address. DDP? Oh dear The risks to the seller are broad and include VAT charges, bribery, and storage costs if unexpected delays occur. A DDP benefits a buyer as the seller assumes all of the liabilities and costs. I thought this brexit thing was easy. Where is the risk if the buyer has paid you for the goods, and as the seller, and IOR, taken responsibility for and added these costs to the invoice the buyer has already paid you for. Where would the delay and storage cost be if the transit, duty and taxes have already been completed an cleared prior to the order reaching the receiving custom border . In the case of IfemNaughtyDesires they will need to look into how the OMP they are using will be handling this on their behalf (unless they operate their own website in which case they can easily do it themselves and not lose any sales) All this extra hassle cost and red tape. DDP is used by carousel vat fraudsters. Oh to be able to trade with none of this expense with our biggest market, worrisome times for business. Positive thinking will win the day
That and the DDP will win the day
0% VAT on your export products will help
Why dont you order a machine or a container from china and see how that goes for you maybe get the chinese seller to do a DDP for u
Sounds like you've had your fingers burned doing this?
Think about it , say you've a hundred customers you pay someone to do all the DDP forms that's more expense straight away, goods arrive overseas and foreign customs insist we need vat and some duty on this, can u see why there may be a risk ?
Oh I thought you actually had a bad experience of doing a FCL from China on DDP
I did take a couple of containers of antiques in and they attracted a lower vat rate.
The incoterms from supplier were ddp? Why was there an issue? You ended up paying more than you expected?
Some detail would help so anyone reading your bad experience can avoid the problem/issue you encountered
Is this another brexit fantasy a world with no import vat. Any containers I've imported I've had no choice on paying vat and some other costs, but maybe u know better
Just asking for your experience of DDP (I haven't said anything about a fantasy of no vat on imports) - you have mentioned a few times why DDP is bad/risky and you mentioned buying a machine or container from China using ddp.
Were you really expecting no further costs and vat on your containers from China? The seller you bought the containers of antiques from sold them to you with DDP terms?
Why would he do that ? Why would he take the costs it's your fantasy.The seller bears all the costs and risks involved in bringing the goods to the place of destination and has an obligation to clear the goods not only for export but also for import, to pay any duty for both export and import and to carry out all customs formalities, wake up."So just for curiosities sake, what were the incoterms for your import of the container of antiques? | |||
"I sell unique products. Eu customers can still buy from you without having the surprise of import vat to pay, if you switch to DDP - your retail selling price for Eu customers would need to be net of U.K. vat (zero vat as you are exporting outside of U.K.) - so when you add the DDP charges for the customer they are essentially paying the same price, but don’t have additional import fees to pay when the order is delivered to their address. DDP? Oh dear The risks to the seller are broad and include VAT charges, bribery, and storage costs if unexpected delays occur. A DDP benefits a buyer as the seller assumes all of the liabilities and costs. I thought this brexit thing was easy. Where is the risk if the buyer has paid you for the goods, and as the seller, and IOR, taken responsibility for and added these costs to the invoice the buyer has already paid you for. Where would the delay and storage cost be if the transit, duty and taxes have already been completed an cleared prior to the order reaching the receiving custom border . In the case of IfemNaughtyDesires they will need to look into how the OMP they are using will be handling this on their behalf (unless they operate their own website in which case they can easily do it themselves and not lose any sales) All this extra hassle cost and red tape. DDP is used by carousel vat fraudsters. Oh to be able to trade with none of this expense with our biggest market, worrisome times for business. Positive thinking will win the day
That and the DDP will win the day
0% VAT on your export products will help
Why dont you order a machine or a container from china and see how that goes for you maybe get the chinese seller to do a DDP for u
Sounds like you've had your fingers burned doing this?
Think about it , say you've a hundred customers you pay someone to do all the DDP forms that's more expense straight away, goods arrive overseas and foreign customs insist we need vat and some duty on this, can u see why there may be a risk ?
Oh I thought you actually had a bad experience of doing a FCL from China on DDP
I did take a couple of containers of antiques in and they attracted a lower vat rate.
The incoterms from supplier were ddp? Why was there an issue? You ended up paying more than you expected?
Some detail would help so anyone reading your bad experience can avoid the problem/issue you encountered
Is this another brexit fantasy a world with no import vat. Any containers I've imported I've had no choice on paying vat and some other costs, but maybe u know better
Just asking for your experience of DDP (I haven't said anything about a fantasy of no vat on imports) - you have mentioned a few times why DDP is bad/risky and you mentioned buying a machine or container from China using ddp.
Were you really expecting no further costs and vat on your containers from China? The seller you bought the containers of antiques from sold them to you with DDP terms?
Why would he do that ? Why would he take the costs it's your fantasy.The seller bears all the costs and risks involved in bringing the goods to the place of destination and has an obligation to clear the goods not only for export but also for import, to pay any duty for both export and import and to carry out all customs formalities, wake up.
So just for curiosities sake, what were the incoterms for your import of the container of antiques?"What do u mean. they were ex-works. | |||
"I sell unique products. Eu customers can still buy from you without having the surprise of import vat to pay, if you switch to DDP - your retail selling price for Eu customers would need to be net of U.K. vat (zero vat as you are exporting outside of U.K.) - so when you add the DDP charges for the customer they are essentially paying the same price, but don’t have additional import fees to pay when the order is delivered to their address. DDP? Oh dear The risks to the seller are broad and include VAT charges, bribery, and storage costs if unexpected delays occur. A DDP benefits a buyer as the seller assumes all of the liabilities and costs. I thought this brexit thing was easy. Where is the risk if the buyer has paid you for the goods, and as the seller, and IOR, taken responsibility for and added these costs to the invoice the buyer has already paid you for. Where would the delay and storage cost be if the transit, duty and taxes have already been completed an cleared prior to the order reaching the receiving custom border . In the case of IfemNaughtyDesires they will need to look into how the OMP they are using will be handling this on their behalf (unless they operate their own website in which case they can easily do it themselves and not lose any sales) All this extra hassle cost and red tape. DDP is used by carousel vat fraudsters. Oh to be able to trade with none of this expense with our biggest market, worrisome times for business. Positive thinking will win the day
That and the DDP will win the day
0% VAT on your export products will help
Why dont you order a machine or a container from china and see how that goes for you maybe get the chinese seller to do a DDP for u
Sounds like you've had your fingers burned doing this?
Think about it , say you've a hundred customers you pay someone to do all the DDP forms that's more expense straight away, goods arrive overseas and foreign customs insist we need vat and some duty on this, can u see why there may be a risk ?
Oh I thought you actually had a bad experience of doing a FCL from China on DDP
I did take a couple of containers of antiques in and they attracted a lower vat rate.
The incoterms from supplier were ddp? Why was there an issue? You ended up paying more than you expected?
Some detail would help so anyone reading your bad experience can avoid the problem/issue you encountered
Is this another brexit fantasy a world with no import vat. Any containers I've imported I've had no choice on paying vat and some other costs, but maybe u know better
Just asking for your experience of DDP (I haven't said anything about a fantasy of no vat on imports) - you have mentioned a few times why DDP is bad/risky and you mentioned buying a machine or container from China using ddp.
Were you really expecting no further costs and vat on your containers from China? The seller you bought the containers of antiques from sold them to you with DDP terms?
Why would he do that ? Why would he take the costs it's your fantasy.The seller bears all the costs and risks involved in bringing the goods to the place of destination and has an obligation to clear the goods not only for export but also for import, to pay any duty for both export and import and to carry out all customs formalities, wake up.
So just for curiosities sake, what were the incoterms for your import of the container of antiques?
What do u mean. they were ex-works."EXW So you've paid twice and left yourself (the buyer) open to all the responsibility and cost. All your seller had to do as make the goods available to you at their factory/warehouse. Seller most likely asked you to pay in advance, before they would let you move the goods? For the seller, you are the ideal buyer | |||
"I sell unique products. Eu customers can still buy from you without having the surprise of import vat to pay, if you switch to DDP - your retail selling price for Eu customers would need to be net of U.K. vat (zero vat as you are exporting outside of U.K.) - so when you add the DDP charges for the customer they are essentially paying the same price, but don’t have additional import fees to pay when the order is delivered to their address. DDP? Oh dear The risks to the seller are broad and include VAT charges, bribery, and storage costs if unexpected delays occur. A DDP benefits a buyer as the seller assumes all of the liabilities and costs. I thought this brexit thing was easy. Where is the risk if the buyer has paid you for the goods, and as the seller, and IOR, taken responsibility for and added these costs to the invoice the buyer has already paid you for. Where would the delay and storage cost be if the transit, duty and taxes have already been completed an cleared prior to the order reaching the receiving custom border . In the case of IfemNaughtyDesires they will need to look into how the OMP they are using will be handling this on their behalf (unless they operate their own website in which case they can easily do it themselves and not lose any sales) All this extra hassle cost and red tape. DDP is used by carousel vat fraudsters. Oh to be able to trade with none of this expense with our biggest market, worrisome times for business. Positive thinking will win the day
That and the DDP will win the day
0% VAT on your export products will help
Why dont you order a machine or a container from china and see how that goes for you maybe get the chinese seller to do a DDP for u
Sounds like you've had your fingers burned doing this?
Think about it , say you've a hundred customers you pay someone to do all the DDP forms that's more expense straight away, goods arrive overseas and foreign customs insist we need vat and some duty on this, can u see why there may be a risk ?
Oh I thought you actually had a bad experience of doing a FCL from China on DDP
I did take a couple of containers of antiques in and they attracted a lower vat rate.
The incoterms from supplier were ddp? Why was there an issue? You ended up paying more than you expected?
Some detail would help so anyone reading your bad experience can avoid the problem/issue you encountered
Is this another brexit fantasy a world with no import vat. Any containers I've imported I've had no choice on paying vat and some other costs, but maybe u know better
Just asking for your experience of DDP (I haven't said anything about a fantasy of no vat on imports) - you have mentioned a few times why DDP is bad/risky and you mentioned buying a machine or container from China using ddp.
Were you really expecting no further costs and vat on your containers from China? The seller you bought the containers of antiques from sold them to you with DDP terms?
Why would he do that ? Why would he take the costs it's your fantasy.The seller bears all the costs and risks involved in bringing the goods to the place of destination and has an obligation to clear the goods not only for export but also for import, to pay any duty for both export and import and to carry out all customs formalities, wake up.
So just for curiosities sake, what were the incoterms for your import of the container of antiques?
What do u mean. they were ex-works.
EXW
So you've paid twice and left yourself (the buyer) open to all the responsibility and cost. All your seller had to do as make the goods available to you at their factory/warehouse.
Seller most likely asked you to pay in advance, before they would let you move the goods?
For the seller, you are the ideal buyer "Paid twice ? ? It's usually 30% up front and the balance when the bol is released surely u know that much ? I notice you've gone quiet on the DDP brainfart u had | |||
"I sell unique products. Eu customers can still buy from you without having the surprise of import vat to pay, if you switch to DDP - your retail selling price for Eu customers would need to be net of U.K. vat (zero vat as you are exporting outside of U.K.) - so when you add the DDP charges for the customer they are essentially paying the same price, but don’t have additional import fees to pay when the order is delivered to their address. DDP? Oh dear The risks to the seller are broad and include VAT charges, bribery, and storage costs if unexpected delays occur. A DDP benefits a buyer as the seller assumes all of the liabilities and costs. I thought this brexit thing was easy. Where is the risk if the buyer has paid you for the goods, and as the seller, and IOR, taken responsibility for and added these costs to the invoice the buyer has already paid you for. Where would the delay and storage cost be if the transit, duty and taxes have already been completed an cleared prior to the order reaching the receiving custom border . In the case of IfemNaughtyDesires they will need to look into how the OMP they are using will be handling this on their behalf (unless they operate their own website in which case they can easily do it themselves and not lose any sales) All this extra hassle cost and red tape. DDP is used by carousel vat fraudsters. Oh to be able to trade with none of this expense with our biggest market, worrisome times for business. Positive thinking will win the day
That and the DDP will win the day
0% VAT on your export products will help
Why dont you order a machine or a container from china and see how that goes for you maybe get the chinese seller to do a DDP for u
Sounds like you've had your fingers burned doing this?
Think about it , say you've a hundred customers you pay someone to do all the DDP forms that's more expense straight away, goods arrive overseas and foreign customs insist we need vat and some duty on this, can u see why there may be a risk ?
There is no risk, they will and should put VAT on the item, that's how it works. The VAT gets re-added at the border, effectively the product stay the same price the VAT moves to the correct government.
Oh dear, unlike in a free market which we had and worked seamlessly once again with a DDP the seller (uk) agrees to assume ALL risk on costs and shipping any custom duty, import costs, clearance costs will be borne by the seller, I fail to see how any uk business would benefit from this brexit pig.
You may not believe this but Brexit was done for the "will of the people" business was just a close second
The will of some people, no business in their right mind would want brexit it's just a pig that needs to be put down asap."That is your right in a democracy, fill yer boots it will mean a lot less "pain" for me. | |||
"I sell unique products. Eu customers can still buy from you without having the surprise of import vat to pay, if you switch to DDP - your retail selling price for Eu customers would need to be net of U.K. vat (zero vat as you are exporting outside of U.K.) - so when you add the DDP charges for the customer they are essentially paying the same price, but don’t have additional import fees to pay when the order is delivered to their address. DDP? Oh dear The risks to the seller are broad and include VAT charges, bribery, and storage costs if unexpected delays occur. A DDP benefits a buyer as the seller assumes all of the liabilities and costs. I thought this brexit thing was easy. Where is the risk if the buyer has paid you for the goods, and as the seller, and IOR, taken responsibility for and added these costs to the invoice the buyer has already paid you for. Where would the delay and storage cost be if the transit, duty and taxes have already been completed an cleared prior to the order reaching the receiving custom border . In the case of IfemNaughtyDesires they will need to look into how the OMP they are using will be handling this on their behalf (unless they operate their own website in which case they can easily do it themselves and not lose any sales) All this extra hassle cost and red tape. DDP is used by carousel vat fraudsters. Oh to be able to trade with none of this expense with our biggest market, worrisome times for business. Positive thinking will win the day
That and the DDP will win the day
0% VAT on your export products will help
Why dont you order a machine or a container from china and see how that goes for you maybe get the chinese seller to do a DDP for u
Sounds like you've had your fingers burned doing this?
Think about it , say you've a hundred customers you pay someone to do all the DDP forms that's more expense straight away, goods arrive overseas and foreign customs insist we need vat and some duty on this, can u see why there may be a risk ?
There is no risk, they will and should put VAT on the item, that's how it works. The VAT gets re-added at the border, effectively the product stay the same price the VAT moves to the correct government.
Oh dear, unlike in a free market which we had and worked seamlessly once again with a DDP the seller (uk) agrees to assume ALL risk on costs and shipping any custom duty, import costs, clearance costs will be borne by the seller, I fail to see how any uk business would benefit from this brexit pig.
You may not believe this but Brexit was done for the "will of the people" business was just a close second
The will of some people, no business in their right mind would want brexit it's just a pig that needs to be put down asap.
That is your right in a democracy, fill yer boots it will mean a lot less "pain" for me."At your age u may not have as much pain as the younger generation but it's a rather selfish attitude. | |||
"I sell unique products. Eu customers can still buy from you without having the surprise of import vat to pay, if you switch to DDP - your retail selling price for Eu customers would need to be net of U.K. vat (zero vat as you are exporting outside of U.K.) - so when you add the DDP charges for the customer they are essentially paying the same price, but don’t have additional import fees to pay when the order is delivered to their address. DDP? Oh dear The risks to the seller are broad and include VAT charges, bribery, and storage costs if unexpected delays occur. A DDP benefits a buyer as the seller assumes all of the liabilities and costs. I thought this brexit thing was easy. Where is the risk if the buyer has paid you for the goods, and as the seller, and IOR, taken responsibility for and added these costs to the invoice the buyer has already paid you for. Where would the delay and storage cost be if the transit, duty and taxes have already been completed an cleared prior to the order reaching the receiving custom border . In the case of IfemNaughtyDesires they will need to look into how the OMP they are using will be handling this on their behalf (unless they operate their own website in which case they can easily do it themselves and not lose any sales) All this extra hassle cost and red tape. DDP is used by carousel vat fraudsters. Oh to be able to trade with none of this expense with our biggest market, worrisome times for business. Positive thinking will win the day
That and the DDP will win the day
0% VAT on your export products will help
Why dont you order a machine or a container from china and see how that goes for you maybe get the chinese seller to do a DDP for u
Sounds like you've had your fingers burned doing this?
Think about it , say you've a hundred customers you pay someone to do all the DDP forms that's more expense straight away, goods arrive overseas and foreign customs insist we need vat and some duty on this, can u see why there may be a risk ?
Oh I thought you actually had a bad experience of doing a FCL from China on DDP
I did take a couple of containers of antiques in and they attracted a lower vat rate.
The incoterms from supplier were ddp? Why was there an issue? You ended up paying more than you expected?
Some detail would help so anyone reading your bad experience can avoid the problem/issue you encountered
Is this another brexit fantasy a world with no import vat. Any containers I've imported I've had no choice on paying vat and some other costs, but maybe u know better
Just asking for your experience of DDP (I haven't said anything about a fantasy of no vat on imports) - you have mentioned a few times why DDP is bad/risky and you mentioned buying a machine or container from China using ddp.
Were you really expecting no further costs and vat on your containers from China? The seller you bought the containers of antiques from sold them to you with DDP terms?
Why would he do that ? Why would he take the costs it's your fantasy.The seller bears all the costs and risks involved in bringing the goods to the place of destination and has an obligation to clear the goods not only for export but also for import, to pay any duty for both export and import and to carry out all customs formalities, wake up.
So just for curiosities sake, what were the incoterms for your import of the container of antiques?
What do u mean. they were ex-works.
EXW
So you've paid twice and left yourself (the buyer) open to all the responsibility and cost. All your seller had to do as make the goods available to you at their factory/warehouse.
Seller most likely asked you to pay in advance, before they would let you move the goods?
For the seller, you are the ideal buyer
Paid twice ? ? It's usually 30% up front and the balance when the bol is released surely u know that much ? I notice you've gone quiet on the DDP brainfart u had
"For B2C, DDP is a recognised method at the moment of maintaining sales to eu customers The discussion about your container import - exw means you have paid the local costs in China as well as the the arrival costs in the uk. More expensive for you but does give you more control over the goods you are buying. How did your supplier hold on to the B/L, awaiting your balance payment, if the goods were made available to you exw at their factory/warehouse? | |||
"I sell unique products. Eu customers can still buy from you without having the surprise of import vat to pay, if you switch to DDP - your retail selling price for Eu customers would need to be net of U.K. vat (zero vat as you are exporting outside of U.K.) - so when you add the DDP charges for the customer they are essentially paying the same price, but don’t have additional import fees to pay when the order is delivered to their address. DDP? Oh dear The risks to the seller are broad and include VAT charges, bribery, and storage costs if unexpected delays occur. A DDP benefits a buyer as the seller assumes all of the liabilities and costs. I thought this brexit thing was easy. Where is the risk if the buyer has paid you for the goods, and as the seller, and IOR, taken responsibility for and added these costs to the invoice the buyer has already paid you for. Where would the delay and storage cost be if the transit, duty and taxes have already been completed an cleared prior to the order reaching the receiving custom border . In the case of IfemNaughtyDesires they will need to look into how the OMP they are using will be handling this on their behalf (unless they operate their own website in which case they can easily do it themselves and not lose any sales) All this extra hassle cost and red tape. DDP is used by carousel vat fraudsters. Oh to be able to trade with none of this expense with our biggest market, worrisome times for business. Positive thinking will win the day
That and the DDP will win the day
0% VAT on your export products will help
Why dont you order a machine or a container from china and see how that goes for you maybe get the chinese seller to do a DDP for u
Sounds like you've had your fingers burned doing this?
Think about it , say you've a hundred customers you pay someone to do all the DDP forms that's more expense straight away, goods arrive overseas and foreign customs insist we need vat and some duty on this, can u see why there may be a risk ?
Oh I thought you actually had a bad experience of doing a FCL from China on DDP
I did take a couple of containers of antiques in and they attracted a lower vat rate.
The incoterms from supplier were ddp? Why was there an issue? You ended up paying more than you expected?
Some detail would help so anyone reading your bad experience can avoid the problem/issue you encountered
Is this another brexit fantasy a world with no import vat. Any containers I've imported I've had no choice on paying vat and some other costs, but maybe u know better
Just asking for your experience of DDP (I haven't said anything about a fantasy of no vat on imports) - you have mentioned a few times why DDP is bad/risky and you mentioned buying a machine or container from China using ddp.
Were you really expecting no further costs and vat on your containers from China? The seller you bought the containers of antiques from sold them to you with DDP terms?
Why would he do that ? Why would he take the costs it's your fantasy.The seller bears all the costs and risks involved in bringing the goods to the place of destination and has an obligation to clear the goods not only for export but also for import, to pay any duty for both export and import and to carry out all customs formalities, wake up.
So just for curiosities sake, what were the incoterms for your import of the container of antiques?
What do u mean. they were ex-works.
EXW
So you've paid twice and left yourself (the buyer) open to all the responsibility and cost. All your seller had to do as make the goods available to you at their factory/warehouse.
Seller most likely asked you to pay in advance, before they would let you move the goods?
For the seller, you are the ideal buyer
Paid twice ? ? It's usually 30% up front and the balance when the bol is released surely u know that much ? I notice you've gone quiet on the DDP brainfart u had
For B2C, DDP is a recognised method at the moment of maintaining sales to eu customers
The discussion about your container import - exw means you have paid the local costs in China as well as the the arrival costs in the uk.
More expensive for you but does give you more control over the goods you are buying.
How did your supplier hold on to the B/L, awaiting your balance payment, if the goods were made available to you exw at their factory/warehouse?
"when u say local costs in china what specifically are u referring to ? As for the B.o.l. I'm surprised you dont know how that works ? Anyway I'll enlighten u, 30% deposit up front,when the container is loaded the B.o.l. is released to the captain or shipping line as proof it's on board myself or my agent gets the B.o.l. and can proceed to organize vat and clearance , P.s glad you've gone quiet on the DDP idea I think u realise how deft that was | |||
"I sell unique products. Eu customers can still buy from you without having the surprise of import vat to pay, if you switch to DDP - your retail selling price for Eu customers would need to be net of U.K. vat (zero vat as you are exporting outside of U.K.) - so when you add the DDP charges for the customer they are essentially paying the same price, but don’t have additional import fees to pay when the order is delivered to their address. DDP? Oh dear The risks to the seller are broad and include VAT charges, bribery, and storage costs if unexpected delays occur. A DDP benefits a buyer as the seller assumes all of the liabilities and costs. I thought this brexit thing was easy. Where is the risk if the buyer has paid you for the goods, and as the seller, and IOR, taken responsibility for and added these costs to the invoice the buyer has already paid you for. Where would the delay and storage cost be if the transit, duty and taxes have already been completed an cleared prior to the order reaching the receiving custom border . In the case of IfemNaughtyDesires they will need to look into how the OMP they are using will be handling this on their behalf (unless they operate their own website in which case they can easily do it themselves and not lose any sales) All this extra hassle cost and red tape. DDP is used by carousel vat fraudsters. Oh to be able to trade with none of this expense with our biggest market, worrisome times for business. Positive thinking will win the day
That and the DDP will win the day
0% VAT on your export products will help
Why dont you order a machine or a container from china and see how that goes for you maybe get the chinese seller to do a DDP for u
Sounds like you've had your fingers burned doing this?
Think about it , say you've a hundred customers you pay someone to do all the DDP forms that's more expense straight away, goods arrive overseas and foreign customs insist we need vat and some duty on this, can u see why there may be a risk ?
There is no risk, they will and should put VAT on the item, that's how it works. The VAT gets re-added at the border, effectively the product stay the same price the VAT moves to the correct government.
Oh dear, unlike in a free market which we had and worked seamlessly once again with a DDP the seller (uk) agrees to assume ALL risk on costs and shipping any custom duty, import costs, clearance costs will be borne by the seller, I fail to see how any uk business would benefit from this brexit pig.
You may not believe this but Brexit was done for the "will of the people" business was just a close second
The will of some people, no business in their right mind would want brexit it's just a pig that needs to be put down asap.
That is your right in a democracy, fill yer boots it will mean a lot less "pain" for me.
At your age u may not have as much pain as the younger generation but it's a rather selfish attitude. "Yeah but i was young, when the UK joined and we all said it was the wrong thing to do, the vote didn't change then either, just got to adapt | |||
"I sell unique products. Eu customers can still buy from you without having the surprise of import vat to pay, if you switch to DDP - your retail selling price for Eu customers would need to be net of U.K. vat (zero vat as you are exporting outside of U.K.) - so when you add the DDP charges for the customer they are essentially paying the same price, but don’t have additional import fees to pay when the order is delivered to their address. DDP? Oh dear The risks to the seller are broad and include VAT charges, bribery, and storage costs if unexpected delays occur. A DDP benefits a buyer as the seller assumes all of the liabilities and costs. I thought this brexit thing was easy. Where is the risk if the buyer has paid you for the goods, and as the seller, and IOR, taken responsibility for and added these costs to the invoice the buyer has already paid you for. Where would the delay and storage cost be if the transit, duty and taxes have already been completed an cleared prior to the order reaching the receiving custom border . In the case of IfemNaughtyDesires they will need to look into how the OMP they are using will be handling this on their behalf (unless they operate their own website in which case they can easily do it themselves and not lose any sales) All this extra hassle cost and red tape. DDP is used by carousel vat fraudsters. Oh to be able to trade with none of this expense with our biggest market, worrisome times for business. Positive thinking will win the day
That and the DDP will win the day
0% VAT on your export products will help
Why dont you order a machine or a container from china and see how that goes for you maybe get the chinese seller to do a DDP for u
Sounds like you've had your fingers burned doing this?
Think about it , say you've a hundred customers you pay someone to do all the DDP forms that's more expense straight away, goods arrive overseas and foreign customs insist we need vat and some duty on this, can u see why there may be a risk ?
There is no risk, they will and should put VAT on the item, that's how it works. The VAT gets re-added at the border, effectively the product stay the same price the VAT moves to the correct government.
Oh dear, unlike in a free market which we had and worked seamlessly once again with a DDP the seller (uk) agrees to assume ALL risk on costs and shipping any custom duty, import costs, clearance costs will be borne by the seller, I fail to see how any uk business would benefit from this brexit pig.
You may not believe this but Brexit was done for the "will of the people" business was just a close second
The will of some people, no business in their right mind would want brexit it's just a pig that needs to be put down asap.
That is your right in a democracy, fill yer boots it will mean a lot less "pain" for me.
At your age u may not have as much pain as the younger generation but it's a rather selfish attitude.
Yeah but i was young, when the UK joined and we all said it was the wrong thing to do, the vote didn't change then either, just got to adapt"It may take the younger generation some time to adapt to higher prices less choice and lower living standards. | |||
"I sell unique products. Eu customers can still buy from you without having the surprise of import vat to pay, if you switch to DDP - your retail selling price for Eu customers would need to be net of U.K. vat (zero vat as you are exporting outside of U.K.) - so when you add the DDP charges for the customer they are essentially paying the same price, but don’t have additional import fees to pay when the order is delivered to their address. DDP? Oh dear The risks to the seller are broad and include VAT charges, bribery, and storage costs if unexpected delays occur. A DDP benefits a buyer as the seller assumes all of the liabilities and costs. I thought this brexit thing was easy. Where is the risk if the buyer has paid you for the goods, and as the seller, and IOR, taken responsibility for and added these costs to the invoice the buyer has already paid you for. Where would the delay and storage cost be if the transit, duty and taxes have already been completed an cleared prior to the order reaching the receiving custom border . In the case of IfemNaughtyDesires they will need to look into how the OMP they are using will be handling this on their behalf (unless they operate their own website in which case they can easily do it themselves and not lose any sales) All this extra hassle cost and red tape. DDP is used by carousel vat fraudsters. Oh to be able to trade with none of this expense with our biggest market, worrisome times for business. Positive thinking will win the day
That and the DDP will win the day
0% VAT on your export products will help
Why dont you order a machine or a container from china and see how that goes for you maybe get the chinese seller to do a DDP for u
Sounds like you've had your fingers burned doing this?
Think about it , say you've a hundred customers you pay someone to do all the DDP forms that's more expense straight away, goods arrive overseas and foreign customs insist we need vat and some duty on this, can u see why there may be a risk ?
There is no risk, they will and should put VAT on the item, that's how it works. The VAT gets re-added at the border, effectively the product stay the same price the VAT moves to the correct government.
Oh dear, unlike in a free market which we had and worked seamlessly once again with a DDP the seller (uk) agrees to assume ALL risk on costs and shipping any custom duty, import costs, clearance costs will be borne by the seller, I fail to see how any uk business would benefit from this brexit pig.
You may not believe this but Brexit was done for the "will of the people" business was just a close second
The will of some people, no business in their right mind would want brexit it's just a pig that needs to be put down asap.
That is your right in a democracy, fill yer boots it will mean a lot less "pain" for me.
At your age u may not have as much pain as the younger generation but it's a rather selfish attitude.
Yeah but i was young, when the UK joined and we all said it was the wrong thing to do, the vote didn't change then either, just got to adapt
It may take the younger generation some time to adapt to higher prices less choice and lower living standards."There might be a little pain at first for those still stuck inside the EU I agree but a prosperous UK will benefit them all eventually | |||
"I sell unique products. Eu customers can still buy from you without having the surprise of import vat to pay, if you switch to DDP - your retail selling price for Eu customers would need to be net of U.K. vat (zero vat as you are exporting outside of U.K.) - so when you add the DDP charges for the customer they are essentially paying the same price, but don’t have additional import fees to pay when the order is delivered to their address. DDP? Oh dear The risks to the seller are broad and include VAT charges, bribery, and storage costs if unexpected delays occur. A DDP benefits a buyer as the seller assumes all of the liabilities and costs. I thought this brexit thing was easy. Where is the risk if the buyer has paid you for the goods, and as the seller, and IOR, taken responsibility for and added these costs to the invoice the buyer has already paid you for. Where would the delay and storage cost be if the transit, duty and taxes have already been completed an cleared prior to the order reaching the receiving custom border . In the case of IfemNaughtyDesires they will need to look into how the OMP they are using will be handling this on their behalf (unless they operate their own website in which case they can easily do it themselves and not lose any sales) All this extra hassle cost and red tape. DDP is used by carousel vat fraudsters. Oh to be able to trade with none of this expense with our biggest market, worrisome times for business. Positive thinking will win the day
That and the DDP will win the day
0% VAT on your export products will help
Why dont you order a machine or a container from china and see how that goes for you maybe get the chinese seller to do a DDP for u
Sounds like you've had your fingers burned doing this?
Think about it , say you've a hundred customers you pay someone to do all the DDP forms that's more expense straight away, goods arrive overseas and foreign customs insist we need vat and some duty on this, can u see why there may be a risk ?
Oh I thought you actually had a bad experience of doing a FCL from China on DDP
I did take a couple of containers of antiques in and they attracted a lower vat rate.
The incoterms from supplier were ddp? Why was there an issue? You ended up paying more than you expected?
Some detail would help so anyone reading your bad experience can avoid the problem/issue you encountered
Is this another brexit fantasy a world with no import vat. Any containers I've imported I've had no choice on paying vat and some other costs, but maybe u know better
Just asking for your experience of DDP (I haven't said anything about a fantasy of no vat on imports) - you have mentioned a few times why DDP is bad/risky and you mentioned buying a machine or container from China using ddp.
Were you really expecting no further costs and vat on your containers from China? The seller you bought the containers of antiques from sold them to you with DDP terms?
Why would he do that ? Why would he take the costs it's your fantasy.The seller bears all the costs and risks involved in bringing the goods to the place of destination and has an obligation to clear the goods not only for export but also for import, to pay any duty for both export and import and to carry out all customs formalities, wake up.
So just for curiosities sake, what were the incoterms for your import of the container of antiques?
What do u mean. they were ex-works.
EXW
So you've paid twice and left yourself (the buyer) open to all the responsibility and cost. All your seller had to do as make the goods available to you at their factory/warehouse.
Seller most likely asked you to pay in advance, before they would let you move the goods?
For the seller, you are the ideal buyer
Paid twice ? ? It's usually 30% up front and the balance when the bol is released surely u know that much ? I notice you've gone quiet on the DDP brainfart u had
For B2C, DDP is a recognised method at the moment of maintaining sales to eu customers
The discussion about your container import - exw means you have paid the local costs in China as well as the the arrival costs in the uk.
More expensive for you but does give you more control over the goods you are buying.
How did your supplier hold on to the B/L, awaiting your balance payment, if the goods were made available to you exw at their factory/warehouse?
when u say local costs in china what specifically are u referring to ? As for the B.o.l. I'm surprised you dont know how that works ? Anyway I'll enlighten u, 30% deposit up front,when the container is loaded the B.o.l. is released to the captain or shipping line as proof it's on board myself or my agent gets the B.o.l. and can proceed to organize vat and clearance ,
P.s glad you've gone quiet on the DDP idea I think u realise how deft that was "You missed my comment about DDP for B2C - it's widely talked about on tax and businesses forums . For your container - if you've got the bol from the captain once it's loaded, and you have only paid the supplier 30%, what's to stop you not paying the 70% balance to the supplier? I mean, going by the your “explanation”, you have the bol so you have ownership of the goods - so you can clear and deliver the goods in the uk. At what point did you pay the 70% balance to the supplier? | |||
"I sell unique products. Eu customers can still buy from you without having the surprise of import vat to pay, if you switch to DDP - your retail selling price for Eu customers would need to be net of U.K. vat (zero vat as you are exporting outside of U.K.) - so when you add the DDP charges for the customer they are essentially paying the same price, but don’t have additional import fees to pay when the order is delivered to their address. DDP? Oh dear The risks to the seller are broad and include VAT charges, bribery, and storage costs if unexpected delays occur. A DDP benefits a buyer as the seller assumes all of the liabilities and costs. I thought this brexit thing was easy. Where is the risk if the buyer has paid you for the goods, and as the seller, and IOR, taken responsibility for and added these costs to the invoice the buyer has already paid you for. Where would the delay and storage cost be if the transit, duty and taxes have already been completed an cleared prior to the order reaching the receiving custom border . In the case of IfemNaughtyDesires they will need to look into how the OMP they are using will be handling this on their behalf (unless they operate their own website in which case they can easily do it themselves and not lose any sales) All this extra hassle cost and red tape. DDP is used by carousel vat fraudsters. Oh to be able to trade with none of this expense with our biggest market, worrisome times for business. Positive thinking will win the day
That and the DDP will win the day
0% VAT on your export products will help
Why dont you order a machine or a container from china and see how that goes for you maybe get the chinese seller to do a DDP for u
Sounds like you've had your fingers burned doing this?
Think about it , say you've a hundred customers you pay someone to do all the DDP forms that's more expense straight away, goods arrive overseas and foreign customs insist we need vat and some duty on this, can u see why there may be a risk ?
Oh I thought you actually had a bad experience of doing a FCL from China on DDP
I did take a couple of containers of antiques in and they attracted a lower vat rate.
The incoterms from supplier were ddp? Why was there an issue? You ended up paying more than you expected?
Some detail would help so anyone reading your bad experience can avoid the problem/issue you encountered
Is this another brexit fantasy a world with no import vat. Any containers I've imported I've had no choice on paying vat and some other costs, but maybe u know better
Just asking for your experience of DDP (I haven't said anything about a fantasy of no vat on imports) - you have mentioned a few times why DDP is bad/risky and you mentioned buying a machine or container from China using ddp.
Were you really expecting no further costs and vat on your containers from China? The seller you bought the containers of antiques from sold them to you with DDP terms?
Why would he do that ? Why would he take the costs it's your fantasy.The seller bears all the costs and risks involved in bringing the goods to the place of destination and has an obligation to clear the goods not only for export but also for import, to pay any duty for both export and import and to carry out all customs formalities, wake up.
So just for curiosities sake, what were the incoterms for your import of the container of antiques?
What do u mean. they were ex-works.
EXW
So you've paid twice and left yourself (the buyer) open to all the responsibility and cost. All your seller had to do as make the goods available to you at their factory/warehouse.
Seller most likely asked you to pay in advance, before they would let you move the goods?
For the seller, you are the ideal buyer
Paid twice ? ? It's usually 30% up front and the balance when the bol is released surely u know that much ? I notice you've gone quiet on the DDP brainfart u had
For B2C, DDP is a recognised method at the moment of maintaining sales to eu customers
The discussion about your container import - exw means you have paid the local costs in China as well as the the arrival costs in the uk.
More expensive for you but does give you more control over the goods you are buying.
How did your supplier hold on to the B/L, awaiting your balance payment, if the goods were made available to you exw at their factory/warehouse?
when u say local costs in china what specifically are u referring to ? As for the B.o.l. I'm surprised you dont know how that works ? Anyway I'll enlighten u, 30% deposit up front,when the container is loaded the B.o.l. is released to the captain or shipping line as proof it's on board myself or my agent gets the B.o.l. and can proceed to organize vat and clearance ,
P.s glad you've gone quiet on the DDP idea I think u realise how deft that was
You missed my comment about DDP for B2C - it's widely talked about on tax and businesses forums .
For your container - if you've got the bol from the captain once it's loaded, and you have only paid the supplier 30%, what's to stop you not paying the 70% balance to the supplier? I mean, going by the your “explanation”, you have the bol so you have ownership of the goods - so you can clear and deliver the goods in the uk. At what point did you pay the 70% balance to the supplier? "The captain has a copy, proves it's on board, Customs need the original bill of lading and invoice which the chinese send once payment is made, sounds like your going importing something and I'm glad I was able to offer some advice to a novice. Ok let's not mention DDP anymore we all realise it wasn't your finest moment | |||
"I sell unique products. Eu customers can still buy from you without having the surprise of import vat to pay, if you switch to DDP - your retail selling price for Eu customers would need to be net of U.K. vat (zero vat as you are exporting outside of U.K.) - so when you add the DDP charges for the customer they are essentially paying the same price, but don’t have additional import fees to pay when the order is delivered to their address. DDP? Oh dear The risks to the seller are broad and include VAT charges, bribery, and storage costs if unexpected delays occur. A DDP benefits a buyer as the seller assumes all of the liabilities and costs. I thought this brexit thing was easy. Where is the risk if the buyer has paid you for the goods, and as the seller, and IOR, taken responsibility for and added these costs to the invoice the buyer has already paid you for. Where would the delay and storage cost be if the transit, duty and taxes have already been completed an cleared prior to the order reaching the receiving custom border . In the case of IfemNaughtyDesires they will need to look into how the OMP they are using will be handling this on their behalf (unless they operate their own website in which case they can easily do it themselves and not lose any sales) All this extra hassle cost and red tape. DDP is used by carousel vat fraudsters. Oh to be able to trade with none of this expense with our biggest market, worrisome times for business. Positive thinking will win the day
That and the DDP will win the day
0% VAT on your export products will help
Why dont you order a machine or a container from china and see how that goes for you maybe get the chinese seller to do a DDP for u
Sounds like you've had your fingers burned doing this?
Think about it , say you've a hundred customers you pay someone to do all the DDP forms that's more expense straight away, goods arrive overseas and foreign customs insist we need vat and some duty on this, can u see why there may be a risk ?
Oh I thought you actually had a bad experience of doing a FCL from China on DDP
I did take a couple of containers of antiques in and they attracted a lower vat rate.
The incoterms from supplier were ddp? Why was there an issue? You ended up paying more than you expected?
Some detail would help so anyone reading your bad experience can avoid the problem/issue you encountered
Is this another brexit fantasy a world with no import vat. Any containers I've imported I've had no choice on paying vat and some other costs, but maybe u know better
Just asking for your experience of DDP (I haven't said anything about a fantasy of no vat on imports) - you have mentioned a few times why DDP is bad/risky and you mentioned buying a machine or container from China using ddp.
Were you really expecting no further costs and vat on your containers from China? The seller you bought the containers of antiques from sold them to you with DDP terms?
Why would he do that ? Why would he take the costs it's your fantasy.The seller bears all the costs and risks involved in bringing the goods to the place of destination and has an obligation to clear the goods not only for export but also for import, to pay any duty for both export and import and to carry out all customs formalities, wake up.
So just for curiosities sake, what were the incoterms for your import of the container of antiques?
What do u mean. they were ex-works.
EXW
So you've paid twice and left yourself (the buyer) open to all the responsibility and cost. All your seller had to do as make the goods available to you at their factory/warehouse.
Seller most likely asked you to pay in advance, before they would let you move the goods?
For the seller, you are the ideal buyer
Paid twice ? ? It's usually 30% up front and the balance when the bol is released surely u know that much ? I notice you've gone quiet on the DDP brainfart u had
For B2C, DDP is a recognised method at the moment of maintaining sales to eu customers
The discussion about your container import - exw means you have paid the local costs in China as well as the the arrival costs in the uk.
More expensive for you but does give you more control over the goods you are buying.
How did your supplier hold on to the B/L, awaiting your balance payment, if the goods were made available to you exw at their factory/warehouse?
when u say local costs in china what specifically are u referring to ? As for the B.o.l. I'm surprised you dont know how that works ? Anyway I'll enlighten u, 30% deposit up front,when the container is loaded the B.o.l. is released to the captain or shipping line as proof it's on board myself or my agent gets the B.o.l. and can proceed to organize vat and clearance ,
P.s glad you've gone quiet on the DDP idea I think u realise how deft that was
You missed my comment about DDP for B2C - it's widely talked about on tax and businesses forums .
For your container - if you've got the bol from the captain once it's loaded, and you have only paid the supplier 30%, what's to stop you not paying the 70% balance to the supplier? I mean, going by the your “explanation”, you have the bol so you have ownership of the goods - so you can clear and deliver the goods in the uk. At what point did you pay the 70% balance to the supplier?
The captain has a copy, proves it's on board, Customs need the original bill of lading and invoice which the chinese send once payment is made, sounds like your going importing something and I'm glad I was able to offer some advice to a novice. Ok let's not mention DDP anymore we all realise it wasn't your finest moment "All my imports are done on FOB and credit payment terms with the factory - no deposit and consignment telex released after vessel sails. 100% tt to factory 90 days after the vessel arrives uk port. Goods are landed and often sold on (and payment received from my customer) before I have to pay the factory - cash flow heaven
So which part of DDP are you struggling with? Happy to help
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"I sell unique products. Eu customers can still buy from you without having the surprise of import vat to pay, if you switch to DDP - your retail selling price for Eu customers would need to be net of U.K. vat (zero vat as you are exporting outside of U.K.) - so when you add the DDP charges for the customer they are essentially paying the same price, but don’t have additional import fees to pay when the order is delivered to their address. DDP? Oh dear The risks to the seller are broad and include VAT charges, bribery, and storage costs if unexpected delays occur. A DDP benefits a buyer as the seller assumes all of the liabilities and costs. I thought this brexit thing was easy. Where is the risk if the buyer has paid you for the goods, and as the seller, and IOR, taken responsibility for and added these costs to the invoice the buyer has already paid you for. Where would the delay and storage cost be if the transit, duty and taxes have already been completed an cleared prior to the order reaching the receiving custom border . In the case of IfemNaughtyDesires they will need to look into how the OMP they are using will be handling this on their behalf (unless they operate their own website in which case they can easily do it themselves and not lose any sales) All this extra hassle cost and red tape. DDP is used by carousel vat fraudsters. Oh to be able to trade with none of this expense with our biggest market, worrisome times for business. Positive thinking will win the day
That and the DDP will win the day
0% VAT on your export products will help
Why dont you order a machine or a container from china and see how that goes for you maybe get the chinese seller to do a DDP for u
Sounds like you've had your fingers burned doing this?
Think about it , say you've a hundred customers you pay someone to do all the DDP forms that's more expense straight away, goods arrive overseas and foreign customs insist we need vat and some duty on this, can u see why there may be a risk ?
There is no risk, they will and should put VAT on the item, that's how it works. The VAT gets re-added at the border, effectively the product stay the same price the VAT moves to the correct government.
Oh dear, unlike in a free market which we had and worked seamlessly once again with a DDP the seller (uk) agrees to assume ALL risk on costs and shipping any custom duty, import costs, clearance costs will be borne by the seller, I fail to see how any uk business would benefit from this brexit pig.
You may not believe this but Brexit was done for the "will of the people" business was just a close second
The will of some people, no business in their right mind would want brexit it's just a pig that needs to be put down asap.
That is your right in a democracy, fill yer boots it will mean a lot less "pain" for me.
At your age u may not have as much pain as the younger generation but it's a rather selfish attitude.
Yeah but i was young, when the UK joined and we all said it was the wrong thing to do, the vote didn't change then either, just got to adapt
It may take the younger generation some time to adapt to higher prices less choice and lower living standards."If that happens so be it, the young had the same concerns back then | |||
"I sell unique products. Eu customers can still buy from you without having the surprise of import vat to pay, if you switch to DDP - your retail selling price for Eu customers would need to be net of U.K. vat (zero vat as you are exporting outside of U.K.) - so when you add the DDP charges for the customer they are essentially paying the same price, but don’t have additional import fees to pay when the order is delivered to their address. DDP? Oh dear The risks to the seller are broad and include VAT charges, bribery, and storage costs if unexpected delays occur. A DDP benefits a buyer as the seller assumes all of the liabilities and costs. I thought this brexit thing was easy. Where is the risk if the buyer has paid you for the goods, and as the seller, and IOR, taken responsibility for and added these costs to the invoice the buyer has already paid you for. Where would the delay and storage cost be if the transit, duty and taxes have already been completed an cleared prior to the order reaching the receiving custom border . In the case of IfemNaughtyDesires they will need to look into how the OMP they are using will be handling this on their behalf (unless they operate their own website in which case they can easily do it themselves and not lose any sales) All this extra hassle cost and red tape. DDP is used by carousel vat fraudsters. Oh to be able to trade with none of this expense with our biggest market, worrisome times for business. Positive thinking will win the day
That and the DDP will win the day
0% VAT on your export products will help
Why dont you order a machine or a container from china and see how that goes for you maybe get the chinese seller to do a DDP for u
Sounds like you've had your fingers burned doing this?
Think about it , say you've a hundred customers you pay someone to do all the DDP forms that's more expense straight away, goods arrive overseas and foreign customs insist we need vat and some duty on this, can u see why there may be a risk ?
Oh I thought you actually had a bad experience of doing a FCL from China on DDP
I did take a couple of containers of antiques in and they attracted a lower vat rate.
The incoterms from supplier were ddp? Why was there an issue? You ended up paying more than you expected?
Some detail would help so anyone reading your bad experience can avoid the problem/issue you encountered
Is this another brexit fantasy a world with no import vat. Any containers I've imported I've had no choice on paying vat and some other costs, but maybe u know better
Just asking for your experience of DDP (I haven't said anything about a fantasy of no vat on imports) - you have mentioned a few times why DDP is bad/risky and you mentioned buying a machine or container from China using ddp.
Were you really expecting no further costs and vat on your containers from China? The seller you bought the containers of antiques from sold them to you with DDP terms?
Why would he do that ? Why would he take the costs it's your fantasy.The seller bears all the costs and risks involved in bringing the goods to the place of destination and has an obligation to clear the goods not only for export but also for import, to pay any duty for both export and import and to carry out all customs formalities, wake up.
So just for curiosities sake, what were the incoterms for your import of the container of antiques?
What do u mean. they were ex-works.
EXW
So you've paid twice and left yourself (the buyer) open to all the responsibility and cost. All your seller had to do as make the goods available to you at their factory/warehouse.
Seller most likely asked you to pay in advance, before they would let you move the goods?
For the seller, you are the ideal buyer
Paid twice ? ? It's usually 30% up front and the balance when the bol is released surely u know that much ? I notice you've gone quiet on the DDP brainfart u had
For B2C, DDP is a recognised method at the moment of maintaining sales to eu customers
The discussion about your container import - exw means you have paid the local costs in China as well as the the arrival costs in the uk.
More expensive for you but does give you more control over the goods you are buying.
How did your supplier hold on to the B/L, awaiting your balance payment, if the goods were made available to you exw at their factory/warehouse?
when u say local costs in china what specifically are u referring to ? As for the B.o.l. I'm surprised you dont know how that works ? Anyway I'll enlighten u, 30% deposit up front,when the container is loaded the B.o.l. is released to the captain or shipping line as proof it's on board myself or my agent gets the B.o.l. and can proceed to organize vat and clearance ,
P.s glad you've gone quiet on the DDP idea I think u realise how deft that was
You missed my comment about DDP for B2C - it's widely talked about on tax and businesses forums .
For your container - if you've got the bol from the captain once it's loaded, and you have only paid the supplier 30%, what's to stop you not paying the 70% balance to the supplier? I mean, going by the your “explanation”, you have the bol so you have ownership of the goods - so you can clear and deliver the goods in the uk. At what point did you pay the 70% balance to the supplier?
The captain has a copy, proves it's on board, Customs need the original bill of lading and invoice which the chinese send once payment is made, sounds like your going importing something and I'm glad I was able to offer some advice to a novice. Ok let's not mention DDP anymore we all realise it wasn't your finest moment
All my imports are done on FOB and credit payment terms with the factory - no deposit and consignment telex released after vessel sails. 100% tt to factory 90 days after the vessel arrives uk port. Goods are landed and often sold on (and payment received from my customer) before I have to pay the factory - cash flow heaven
So which part of DDP are you struggling with? Happy to help
"That's ok dealing with the same factory I deal with a lot of new places each year so credit wouldn't be a thing but anyway I much prefer to pay up front. I'll try again with DDP. The uk seller pays up front not only his own costs but ANY and EVERY cost for the foreign importer, in other words VERY RISKY for the uk seller brilliant for foreign buyer, you would need to be exceptionally dim to go down this route I'm sure you'll agree. I've highlighted a few important words for you.  | |||
" That's ok dealing with the same factory I deal with a lot of new places each year so credit wouldn't be a thing but anyway I much prefer to pay up front. I'll try again with DDP. The uk seller pays up front not only his own costs but ANY and EVERY cost for the foreign importer, in other words VERY RISKY for the uk seller brilliant for foreign buyer, you would need to be exceptionally dim to go down this route I'm sure you'll agree. I've highlighted a few important words for you. " I hope before you pay up front to your supplier you qc and check your goods at factory and prior to loading - wouldn't be the first time someone has opened a container to find weighted boxes  .
Ddp - customer goes to your website and buys an item - for you to dispatch the order to the customer they have to pay you!
How much do they pay you ? - The charges in the shopping cart will show the item price (ex vat as you don't add vat for an export), the standard cost of delivery you charge anyway for that country AND the vat and import costs /fees for the country.
After customer pays the total, you arrange shipping with your courier under DDP terms - where they handle the delivery/import to the country etc... customer receives order without having to pay any additional fees.
So where is the risk?
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" That's ok dealing with the same factory I deal with a lot of new places each year so credit wouldn't be a thing but anyway I much prefer to pay up front. I'll try again with DDP. The uk seller pays up front not only his own costs but ANY and EVERY cost for the foreign importer, in other words VERY RISKY for the uk seller brilliant for foreign buyer, you would need to be exceptionally dim to go down this route I'm sure you'll agree. I've highlighted a few important words for you. I hope before you pay up front to your supplier you qc and check your goods at factory and prior to loading - wouldn't be the first time someone has opened a container to find weighted boxes .
Ddp - customer goes to your website and buys an item - for you to dispatch the order to the customer they have to pay you!
How much do they pay you ? - The charges in the shopping cart will show the item price (ex vat as you don't add vat for an export), the standard cost of delivery you charge anyway for that country AND the vat and import costs /fees for the country.
After customer pays the total, you arrange shipping with your courier under DDP terms - where they handle the delivery/import to the country etc... customer receives order without having to pay any additional fees.
So where is the risk?
"I remember getting 12 tv units from india one time instead of sideboards but other than that no problems. With DDP last week foreign customer has smooth transition with no import duty/fees/charges this week uk seller having to fork up to try and make the same sale do u genuinely not get that ? Many sellers work on tiny margins putting these costs on will mean customer switching to another country in the EU. Brexit is a pig. | |||
" That's ok dealing with the same factory I deal with a lot of new places each year so credit wouldn't be a thing but anyway I much prefer to pay up front. I'll try again with DDP. The uk seller pays up front not only his own costs but ANY and EVERY cost for the foreign importer, in other words VERY RISKY for the uk seller brilliant for foreign buyer, you would need to be exceptionally dim to go down this route I'm sure you'll agree. I've highlighted a few important words for you. I hope before you pay up front to your supplier you qc and check your goods at factory and prior to loading - wouldn't be the first time someone has opened a container to find weighted boxes .
Ddp - customer goes to your website and buys an item - for you to dispatch the order to the customer they have to pay you!
How much do they pay you ? - The charges in the shopping cart will show the item price (ex vat as you don't add vat for an export), the standard cost of delivery you charge anyway for that country AND the vat and import costs /fees for the country.
After customer pays the total, you arrange shipping with your courier under DDP terms - where they handle the delivery/import to the country etc... customer receives order without having to pay any additional fees.
So where is the risk?
I remember getting 12 tv units from india one time instead of sideboards but other than that no problems.
With DDP last week foreign customer has smooth transition with no import duty/fees/charges this week uk seller having to fork up to try and make the same sale do u genuinely not get that ? Many sellers work on tiny margins putting these costs on will mean customer switching to another country in the EU.
Brexit is a pig.
"Foreign customer still gets the item without paying anything extra when it arrives in their country (Same as before) What is the uk seller forking up front - they have already been paid by the customer. Lol Ul | |||
" That's ok dealing with the same factory I deal with a lot of new places each year so credit wouldn't be a thing but anyway I much prefer to pay up front. I'll try again with DDP. The uk seller pays up front not only his own costs but ANY and EVERY cost for the foreign importer, in other words VERY RISKY for the uk seller brilliant for foreign buyer, you would need to be exceptionally dim to go down this route I'm sure you'll agree. I've highlighted a few important words for you. I hope before you pay up front to your supplier you qc and check your goods at factory and prior to loading - wouldn't be the first time someone has opened a container to find weighted boxes .
Ddp - customer goes to your website and buys an item - for you to dispatch the order to the customer they have to pay you!
How much do they pay you ? - The charges in the shopping cart will show the item price (ex vat as you don't add vat for an export), the standard cost of delivery you charge anyway for that country AND the vat and import costs /fees for the country.
After customer pays the total, you arrange shipping with your courier under DDP terms - where they handle the delivery/import to the country etc... customer receives order without having to pay any additional fees.
So where is the risk?
I remember getting 12 tv units from india one time instead of sideboards but other than that no problems.
With DDP last week foreign customer has smooth transition with no import duty/fees/charges this week uk seller having to fork up to try and make the same sale do u genuinely not get that ? Many sellers work on tiny margins putting these costs on will mean customer switching to another country in the EU.
Brexit is a pig.
Foreign customer still gets the item without paying anything extra when it arrives in their country (Same as before)
What is the uk seller forking up front - they have already been paid by the customer. Lol
Ul"It wont cost the uk seller anything because the customer abroad wont be buying, why fork out more when they can get same item from a euro country without those charges, you must get it now, now wheres that pig it needs a slap. | |||
" That's ok dealing with the same factory I deal with a lot of new places each year so credit wouldn't be a thing but anyway I much prefer to pay up front. I'll try again with DDP. The uk seller pays up front not only his own costs but ANY and EVERY cost for the foreign importer, in other words VERY RISKY for the uk seller brilliant for foreign buyer, you would need to be exceptionally dim to go down this route I'm sure you'll agree. I've highlighted a few important words for you. I hope before you pay up front to your supplier you qc and check your goods at factory and prior to loading - wouldn't be the first time someone has opened a container to find weighted boxes .
Ddp - customer goes to your website and buys an item - for you to dispatch the order to the customer they have to pay you!
How much do they pay you ? - The charges in the shopping cart will show the item price (ex vat as you don't add vat for an export), the standard cost of delivery you charge anyway for that country AND the vat and import costs /fees for the country.
After customer pays the total, you arrange shipping with your courier under DDP terms - where they handle the delivery/import to the country etc... customer receives order without having to pay any additional fees.
So where is the risk?
I remember getting 12 tv units from india one time instead of sideboards but other than that no problems.
With DDP last week foreign customer has smooth transition with no import duty/fees/charges this week uk seller having to fork up to try and make the same sale do u genuinely not get that ? Many sellers work on tiny margins putting these costs on will mean customer switching to another country in the EU.
Brexit is a pig.
Foreign customer still gets the item without paying anything extra when it arrives in their country (Same as before)
What is the uk seller forking up front - they have already been paid by the customer. Lol
Ul It wont cost the uk seller anything because the customer abroad wont be buying, why fork out more when they can get same item from a euro country without those charges, you must get it now, now wheres that pig it needs a slap. "“ Not everything is down to price“ | |||
"Looking for good & quality genuine sites with english translations? I'm from Ireland.Used to get in UK(actually 70% of all Ireland online shopping was done in UK) but With Brexit too much hassle on excess payments and not discreet packaging! " Meo in Germany have some interesting kinky products as long as your comfortable with a gay orientated supplier. The few bit I have ordered from them came nice and discreetly packaged. | |||
" Meo in Germany have some interesting kinky products as long as your comfortable with a gay orientated supplier. The few bit I have ordered from them came nice and discreetly packaged." Sorry I should have added that they are on a .de domain. | |||
" That's ok dealing with the same factory I deal with a lot of new places each year so credit wouldn't be a thing but anyway I much prefer to pay up front. I'll try again with DDP. The uk seller pays up front not only his own costs but ANY and EVERY cost for the foreign importer, in other words VERY RISKY for the uk seller brilliant for foreign buyer, you would need to be exceptionally dim to go down this route I'm sure you'll agree. I've highlighted a few important words for you. I hope before you pay up front to your supplier you qc and check your goods at factory and prior to loading - wouldn't be the first time someone has opened a container to find weighted boxes .
Ddp - customer goes to your website and buys an item - for you to dispatch the order to the customer they have to pay you!
How much do they pay you ? - The charges in the shopping cart will show the item price (ex vat as you don't add vat for an export), the standard cost of delivery you charge anyway for that country AND the vat and import costs /fees for the country.
After customer pays the total, you arrange shipping with your courier under DDP terms - where they handle the delivery/import to the country etc... customer receives order without having to pay any additional fees.
So where is the risk?
I remember getting 12 tv units from india one time instead of sideboards but other than that no problems.
With DDP last week foreign customer has smooth transition with no import duty/fees/charges this week uk seller having to fork up to try and make the same sale do u genuinely not get that ? Many sellers work on tiny margins putting these costs on will mean customer switching to another country in the EU.
Brexit is a pig.
Foreign customer still gets the item without paying anything extra when it arrives in their country (Same as before)
What is the uk seller forking up front - they have already been paid by the customer. Lol
Ul It wont cost the uk seller anything because the customer abroad wont be buying, why fork out more when they can get same item from a euro country without those charges, you must get it now, now wheres that pig it needs a slap. "Not a logical argument really, if a product is better then the cost isn’t necessary the main reason you buy it, if price was the only issue no body would buy a BMW when they could buy a fiat. | |||
" That's ok dealing with the same factory I deal with a lot of new places each year so credit wouldn't be a thing but anyway I much prefer to pay up front. I'll try again with DDP. The uk seller pays up front not only his own costs but ANY and EVERY cost for the foreign importer, in other words VERY RISKY for the uk seller brilliant for foreign buyer, you would need to be exceptionally dim to go down this route I'm sure you'll agree. I've highlighted a few important words for you. I hope before you pay up front to your supplier you qc and check your goods at factory and prior to loading - wouldn't be the first time someone has opened a container to find weighted boxes .
Ddp - customer goes to your website and buys an item - for you to dispatch the order to the customer they have to pay you!
How much do they pay you ? - The charges in the shopping cart will show the item price (ex vat as you don't add vat for an export), the standard cost of delivery you charge anyway for that country AND the vat and import costs /fees for the country.
After customer pays the total, you arrange shipping with your courier under DDP terms - where they handle the delivery/import to the country etc... customer receives order without having to pay any additional fees.
So where is the risk?
I remember getting 12 tv units from india one time instead of sideboards but other than that no problems.
With DDP last week foreign customer has smooth transition with no import duty/fees/charges this week uk seller having to fork up to try and make the same sale do u genuinely not get that ? Many sellers work on tiny margins putting these costs on will mean customer switching to another country in the EU.
Brexit is a pig.
Foreign customer still gets the item without paying anything extra when it arrives in their country (Same as before)
What is the uk seller forking up front - they have already been paid by the customer. Lol
Ul It wont cost the uk seller anything because the customer abroad wont be buying, why fork out more when they can get same item from a euro country without those charges, you must get it now, now wheres that pig it needs a slap. "so couldn’t they get the same item from a euro country before Brexit and if they could why didn’t they ? | |||
" That's ok dealing with the same factory I deal with a lot of new places each year so credit wouldn't be a thing but anyway I much prefer to pay up front. I'll try again with DDP. The uk seller pays up front not only his own costs but ANY and EVERY cost for the foreign importer, in other words VERY RISKY for the uk seller brilliant for foreign buyer, you would need to be exceptionally dim to go down this route I'm sure you'll agree. I've highlighted a few important words for you. I hope before you pay up front to your supplier you qc and check your goods at factory and prior to loading - wouldn't be the first time someone has opened a container to find weighted boxes .
Ddp - customer goes to your website and buys an item - for you to dispatch the order to the customer they have to pay you!
How much do they pay you ? - The charges in the shopping cart will show the item price (ex vat as you don't add vat for an export), the standard cost of delivery you charge anyway for that country AND the vat and import costs /fees for the country.
After customer pays the total, you arrange shipping with your courier under DDP terms - where they handle the delivery/import to the country etc... customer receives order without having to pay any additional fees.
So where is the risk?
I remember getting 12 tv units from india one time instead of sideboards but other than that no problems.
With DDP last week foreign customer has smooth transition with no import duty/fees/charges this week uk seller having to fork up to try and make the same sale do u genuinely not get that ? Many sellers work on tiny margins putting these costs on will mean customer switching to another country in the EU.
Brexit is a pig.
Foreign customer still gets the item without paying anything extra when it arrives in their country (Same as before)
What is the uk seller forking up front - they have already been paid by the customer. Lol
Ul It wont cost the uk seller anything because the customer abroad wont be buying, why fork out more when they can get same item from a euro country without those charges, you must get it now, now wheres that pig it needs a slap. Not a logical argument really, if a product is better then the cost isn’t necessary the main reason you buy it, if price was the only issue no body would buy a BMW when they could buy a fiat. "I dont think u can compare a BMW and a dildo. | |||
" That's ok dealing with the same factory I deal with a lot of new places each year so credit wouldn't be a thing but anyway I much prefer to pay up front. I'll try again with DDP. The uk seller pays up front not only his own costs but ANY and EVERY cost for the foreign importer, in other words VERY RISKY for the uk seller brilliant for foreign buyer, you would need to be exceptionally dim to go down this route I'm sure you'll agree. I've highlighted a few important words for you. I hope before you pay up front to your supplier you qc and check your goods at factory and prior to loading - wouldn't be the first time someone has opened a container to find weighted boxes .
Ddp - customer goes to your website and buys an item - for you to dispatch the order to the customer they have to pay you!
How much do they pay you ? - The charges in the shopping cart will show the item price (ex vat as you don't add vat for an export), the standard cost of delivery you charge anyway for that country AND the vat and import costs /fees for the country.
After customer pays the total, you arrange shipping with your courier under DDP terms - where they handle the delivery/import to the country etc... customer receives order without having to pay any additional fees.
So where is the risk?
I remember getting 12 tv units from india one time instead of sideboards but other than that no problems.
With DDP last week foreign customer has smooth transition with no import duty/fees/charges this week uk seller having to fork up to try and make the same sale do u genuinely not get that ? Many sellers work on tiny margins putting these costs on will mean customer switching to another country in the EU.
Brexit is a pig.
Foreign customer still gets the item without paying anything extra when it arrives in their country (Same as before)
What is the uk seller forking up front - they have already been paid by the customer. Lol
Ul It wont cost the uk seller anything because the customer abroad wont be buying, why fork out more when they can get same item from a euro country without those charges, you must get it now, now wheres that pig it needs a slap. Not a logical argument really, if a product is better then the cost isn’t necessary the main reason you buy it, if price was the only issue no body would buy a BMW when they could buy a fiat.
I dont think u can compare a BMW and a dildo."BMW's are rubbish. Built without indicators, and the speedo is always calibrated under. Must have holes in the roof, as it seems you have to wear a baseball cap when driving one. | |||
" That's ok dealing with the same factory I deal with a lot of new places each year so credit wouldn't be a thing but anyway I much prefer to pay up front. I'll try again with DDP. The uk seller pays up front not only his own costs but ANY and EVERY cost for the foreign importer, in other words VERY RISKY for the uk seller brilliant for foreign buyer, you would need to be exceptionally dim to go down this route I'm sure you'll agree. I've highlighted a few important words for you. I hope before you pay up front to your supplier you qc and check your goods at factory and prior to loading - wouldn't be the first time someone has opened a container to find weighted boxes .
Ddp - customer goes to your website and buys an item - for you to dispatch the order to the customer they have to pay you!
How much do they pay you ? - The charges in the shopping cart will show the item price (ex vat as you don't add vat for an export), the standard cost of delivery you charge anyway for that country AND the vat and import costs /fees for the country.
After customer pays the total, you arrange shipping with your courier under DDP terms - where they handle the delivery/import to the country etc... customer receives order without having to pay any additional fees.
So where is the risk?
I remember getting 12 tv units from india one time instead of sideboards but other than that no problems.
With DDP last week foreign customer has smooth transition with no import duty/fees/charges this week uk seller having to fork up to try and make the same sale do u genuinely not get that ? Many sellers work on tiny margins putting these costs on will mean customer switching to another country in the EU.
Brexit is a pig.
"Is this your new catch phrase ? you seem to use it a lot are you hoping it will catch on? | |||
" That's ok dealing with the same factory I deal with a lot of new places each year so credit wouldn't be a thing but anyway I much prefer to pay up front. I'll try again with DDP. The uk seller pays up front not only his own costs but ANY and EVERY cost for the foreign importer, in other words VERY RISKY for the uk seller brilliant for foreign buyer, you would need to be exceptionally dim to go down this route I'm sure you'll agree. I've highlighted a few important words for you. I hope before you pay up front to your supplier you qc and check your goods at factory and prior to loading - wouldn't be the first time someone has opened a container to find weighted boxes .
Ddp - customer goes to your website and buys an item - for you to dispatch the order to the customer they have to pay you!
How much do they pay you ? - The charges in the shopping cart will show the item price (ex vat as you don't add vat for an export), the standard cost of delivery you charge anyway for that country AND the vat and import costs /fees for the country.
After customer pays the total, you arrange shipping with your courier under DDP terms - where they handle the delivery/import to the country etc... customer receives order without having to pay any additional fees.
So where is the risk?
I remember getting 12 tv units from india one time instead of sideboards but other than that no problems.
With DDP last week foreign customer has smooth transition with no import duty/fees/charges this week uk seller having to fork up to try and make the same sale do u genuinely not get that ? Many sellers work on tiny margins putting these costs on will mean customer switching to another country in the EU.
Brexit is a pig.
Is this your new catch phrase ? you seem to use it a lot are you hoping it will catch on? "You prefer the pig with lipstick one ? | |||
