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By *inn OP   Man  over a year ago

edinburgh

Mark the time.

Your right to travel freely across Europe and without limitations is gone.

Your right to reciprocal health care is gone.

You can no longer take your pets abroad.

Erasmus ends and your children’s rights to pursue reciprocal education arrangements is gone.

Your rights and your children’s rights to seek employment in Europe is gone.

You will face taxation and import duties on any goods you wish to purchase in Europe or take to Europe.

You no longer have any rights or legal protection in Europe - you are an alien and potentially an illegal migrant.

Welcome to your restricted small island life.

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By *ostafunMan  over a year ago

near ipswich


"Mark the time.

Your right to travel freely across Europe and without limitations is gone.

Your right to reciprocal health care is gone.

You can no longer take your pets abroad.

Erasmus ends and your children’s rights to pursue reciprocal education arrangements is gone.

Your rights and your children’s rights to seek employment in Europe is gone.

You will face taxation and import duties on any goods you wish to purchase in Europe or take to Europe.

You no longer have any rights or legal protection in Europe - you are an alien and potentially an illegal migrant.

Welcome to your restricted small island life. "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Mark the time.

Your right to travel freely across Europe and without limitations is gone.

Your right to reciprocal health care is gone.

You can no longer take your pets abroad.

Erasmus ends and your children’s rights to pursue reciprocal education arrangements is gone.

Your rights and your children’s rights to seek employment in Europe is gone.

You will face taxation and import duties on any goods you wish to purchase in Europe or take to Europe.

You no longer have any rights or legal protection in Europe - you are an alien and potentially an illegal migrant.

Welcome to your restricted small island life. "

Apart from Erasmus, which is being replaced anyway, you're wrong on every count

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By *ssexbloke72Man  over a year ago

Poplar


"Mark the time.

Your right to travel freely across Europe and without limitations is gone.

Your right to reciprocal health care is gone.

You can no longer take your pets abroad.

Erasmus ends and your children’s rights to pursue reciprocal education arrangements is gone.

Your rights and your children’s rights to seek employment in Europe is gone.

You will face taxation and import duties on any goods you wish to purchase in Europe or take to Europe.

You no longer have any rights or legal protection in Europe - you are an alien and potentially an illegal migrant.

Welcome to your restricted small island life. "

You do understand that the SNP voted for a No Deal?

It's strange how a party who love the EU so much voted not to have a trade deal at all.!

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By *ercuryMan  over a year ago

Grantham


"Mark the time.

Your right to travel freely across Europe and without limitations is gone.

Your right to reciprocal health care is gone.

You can no longer take your pets abroad.

Erasmus ends and your children’s rights to pursue reciprocal education arrangements is gone.

Your rights and your children’s rights to seek employment in Europe is gone.

You will face taxation and import duties on any goods you wish to purchase in Europe or take to Europe.

You no longer have any rights or legal protection in Europe - you are an alien and potentially an illegal migrant.

Welcome to your restricted small island life. "

So you've read the agreement then?

Because if you have, then you haven't understood a single word of it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Mark the time.

Your right to travel freely across Europe and without limitations is gone.

Your right to reciprocal health care is gone.

You can no longer take your pets abroad.

Erasmus ends and your children’s rights to pursue reciprocal education arrangements is gone.

Your rights and your children’s rights to seek employment in Europe is gone.

You will face taxation and import duties on any goods you wish to purchase in Europe or take to Europe.

You no longer have any rights or legal protection in Europe - you are an alien and potentially an illegal migrant.

Welcome to your restricted small island life.

So you've read the agreement then?

Because if you have, then you haven't understood a single word of it. "

Which of the points stated are incorrect?

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By *oxychick35Couple  over a year ago

thornaby


"Mark the time.

Your right to travel freely across Europe and without limitations is gone.

Your right to reciprocal health care is gone.

You can no longer take your pets abroad.

Erasmus ends and your children’s rights to pursue reciprocal education arrangements is gone.

Your rights and your children’s rights to seek employment in Europe is gone.

You will face taxation and import duties on any goods you wish to purchase in Europe or take to Europe.

You no longer have any rights or legal protection in Europe - you are an alien and potentially an illegal migrant.

Welcome to your restricted small island life. "

aw ffs no way I can’t take Fido me poodle to beni next yr what am I guna do can we pls hold another referendum Fido loves cafe Benidorm

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By *eroy1000Man  over a year ago

milton keynes


"Mark the time.

Your right to travel freely across Europe and without limitations is gone.

Your right to reciprocal health care is gone.

You can no longer take your pets abroad.

Erasmus ends and your children’s rights to pursue reciprocal education arrangements is gone.

Your rights and your children’s rights to seek employment in Europe is gone.

You will face taxation and import duties on any goods you wish to purchase in Europe or take to Europe.

You no longer have any rights or legal protection in Europe - you are an alien and potentially an illegal migrant.

Welcome to your restricted small island life.

You do understand that the SNP voted for a No Deal?

It's strange how a party who love the EU so much voted not to have a trade deal at all.! "

Gove summed up the SNP in parliament yesterday by saying in the indy ref they would not take No for an answer and now they won't take Yes for an answer

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By *armandwet50Couple  over a year ago

Leyland


"Mark the time.

Your right to travel freely across Europe and without limitations is gone.

Your right to reciprocal health care is gone.

You can no longer take your pets abroad.

Erasmus ends and your children’s rights to pursue reciprocal education arrangements is gone.

Your rights and your children’s rights to seek employment in Europe is gone.

You will face taxation and import duties on any goods you wish to purchase in Europe or take to Europe.

You no longer have any rights or legal protection in Europe - you are an alien and potentially an illegal migrant.

Welcome to your restricted small island life.

So you've read the agreement then?

Because if you have, then you haven't understood a single word of it.

Which of the points stated are incorrect? "

Lets start with the first 1, travel, what has changed exactly?

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool

Do the brexiteers have like a bat phone that alerts them,when someone says something negative about Brexit?

There was a great piece in the paper today about some brexiteer in lincs.

He said..in not a racist but there is too much immigration.. they have been here x amount of years and still cant speak English

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"Mark the time.

Your right to travel freely across Europe and without limitations is gone.

Your right to reciprocal health care is gone.

You can no longer take your pets abroad.

Erasmus ends and your children’s rights to pursue reciprocal education arrangements is gone.

Your rights and your children’s rights to seek employment in Europe is gone.

You will face taxation and import duties on any goods you wish to purchase in Europe or take to Europe.

You no longer have any rights or legal protection in Europe - you are an alien and potentially an illegal migrant.

Welcome to your restricted small island life.

You do understand that the SNP voted for a No Deal?

It's strange how a party who love the EU so much voted not to have a trade deal at all.!

Gove summed up the SNP in parliament yesterday by saying in the indy ref they would not take No for an answer and now they won't take Yes for an answer"

Gove is an odious slimy toad.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Do the brexiteers have like a bat phone that alerts them,when someone says something negative about Brexit?

There was a great piece in the paper today about some brexiteer in lincs.

He said..in not a racist but there is too much immigration.. they have been here x amount of years and still cant speak English

"

You must be a Brexiteer

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By *eroy1000Man  over a year ago

milton keynes


"Mark the time.

Your right to travel freely across Europe and without limitations is gone.

Your right to reciprocal health care is gone.

You can no longer take your pets abroad.

Erasmus ends and your children’s rights to pursue reciprocal education arrangements is gone.

Your rights and your children’s rights to seek employment in Europe is gone.

You will face taxation and import duties on any goods you wish to purchase in Europe or take to Europe.

You no longer have any rights or legal protection in Europe - you are an alien and potentially an illegal migrant.

Welcome to your restricted small island life.

You do understand that the SNP voted for a No Deal?

It's strange how a party who love the EU so much voted not to have a trade deal at all.!

Gove summed up the SNP in parliament yesterday by saying in the indy ref they would not take No for an answer and now they won't take Yes for an answer

Gove is an odious slimy toad."

Class

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By *armandwet50Couple  over a year ago

Leyland


"

Gove summed up the SNP in parliament yesterday by saying in the indy ref they would not take No for an answer and now they won't take Yes for an answer

Gove is an odious slimy toad."

This is way to technical a comment can you dumb it down for us please?

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"Mark the time.

Your right to travel freely across Europe and without limitations is gone.

Your right to reciprocal health care is gone.

You can no longer take your pets abroad.

Erasmus ends and your children’s rights to pursue reciprocal education arrangements is gone.

Your rights and your children’s rights to seek employment in Europe is gone.

You will face taxation and import duties on any goods you wish to purchase in Europe or take to Europe.

You no longer have any rights or legal protection in Europe - you are an alien and potentially an illegal migrant.

Welcome to your restricted small island life.

You do understand that the SNP voted for a No Deal?

It's strange how a party who love the EU so much voted not to have a trade deal at all.!

Gove summed up the SNP in parliament yesterday by saying in the indy ref they would not take No for an answer and now they won't take Yes for an answer

Gove is an odious slimy toad.

Class"

But true

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By *eroy1000Man  over a year ago

milton keynes


"Mark the time.

Your right to travel freely across Europe and without limitations is gone.

Your right to reciprocal health care is gone.

You can no longer take your pets abroad.

Erasmus ends and your children’s rights to pursue reciprocal education arrangements is gone.

Your rights and your children’s rights to seek employment in Europe is gone.

You will face taxation and import duties on any goods you wish to purchase in Europe or take to Europe.

You no longer have any rights or legal protection in Europe - you are an alien and potentially an illegal migrant.

Welcome to your restricted small island life.

You do understand that the SNP voted for a No Deal?

It's strange how a party who love the EU so much voted not to have a trade deal at all.!

Gove summed up the SNP in parliament yesterday by saying in the indy ref they would not take No for an answer and now they won't take Yes for an answer

Gove is an odious slimy toad.

Class

But true"

Yes his statement was indeed true

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Mark the time.

Your right to travel freely across Europe and without limitations is gone.

Your right to reciprocal health care is gone.

You can no longer take your pets abroad.

Erasmus ends and your children’s rights to pursue reciprocal education arrangements is gone.

Your rights and your children’s rights to seek employment in Europe is gone.

You will face taxation and import duties on any goods you wish to purchase in Europe or take to Europe.

You no longer have any rights or legal protection in Europe - you are an alien and potentially an illegal migrant.

Welcome to your restricted small island life.

So you've read the agreement then?

Because if you have, then you haven't understood a single word of it.

Which of the points stated are incorrect?

Lets start with the first 1, travel, what has changed exactly?"

As it stands?

No EHICs

Duty free limits

No EU pet passports

Visas for more than 90 days

Only minor changes , but still changes

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By *atEvolutionCouple  over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION

[Removed by poster at 31/12/20 14:11:13]

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By *atEvolutionCouple  over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION


"Your right to travel freely across Europe and without limitations is gone."

90 days is enough for most people - if you want more then you would simply apply for more via a visa - plus this works both ways.


"Your right to reciprocal health care is gone."

Wrong we do have an ongoing right to reciprocal healthcare written clearly into the deal.


"You can no longer take your pets abroad."

Wrong. You apply for a pet passport within 60 days of visiting.


"Erasmus ends and your children’s rights to pursue reciprocal education arrangements is gone."

Correct. But to be replaced with the Turing Scheme.


"Your rights and your children’s rights to seek employment in Europe is gone."

Wrong. You would apply for work by applying for a work permit, like we do already with many other non European countries.


"You will face taxation and import duties on any goods you wish to purchase in Europe or take to Europe."

Only on goods valued at more than £390.


"You no longer have any rights or legal protection in Europe - you are an alien and potentially an illegal migrant"

Wrong. You will have the Legal rights of any citizen of the country you are in. Any legal rights that you would enjoy as a UK citizen that are 'greater' than the country you are in would not apply. (but then they never have anyway). If you passed through border control with proper documentation you are NOT an illegal migrant.

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"Mark the time.

Your right to travel freely across Europe and without limitations is gone.

Your right to reciprocal health care is gone.

You can no longer take your pets abroad.

Erasmus ends and your children’s rights to pursue reciprocal education arrangements is gone.

Your rights and your children’s rights to seek employment in Europe is gone.

You will face taxation and import duties on any goods you wish to purchase in Europe or take to Europe.

You no longer have any rights or legal protection in Europe - you are an alien and potentially an illegal migrant.

Welcome to your restricted small island life.

You do understand that the SNP voted for a No Deal?

It's strange how a party who love the EU so much voted not to have a trade deal at all.!

Gove summed up the SNP in parliament yesterday by saying in the indy ref they would not take No for an answer and now they won't take Yes for an answer

Gove is an odious slimy toad.

Class

But true

Yes his statement was indeed true"

Is he still encouraging people to scavenge whilst we have a whip round for a new boat for the queen?

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By *armandwet50Couple  over a year ago

Leyland


"

Your right to travel freely across Europe and without limitations is gone.

90 days is enough for most people - if you want more then you would simply apply for more via a visa - plus this works both ways.

Your right to reciprocal health care is gone.

Wrong we do have an ongoing right to reciprocal healthcare written clearly into the deal.

You can no longer take your pets abroad.

Wrong. You apply for a pet passport within 60 days of visiting.

Erasmus ends and your children’s rights to pursue reciprocal education arrangements is gone.

Correct. But to be replaced with the Turing Scheme.

Your rights and your children’s rights to seek employment in Europe is gone.

Wrong. You would apply for work by applying for a work permit, like we do already with many other non European countries.

You will face taxation and import duties on any goods you wish to purchase in Europe or take to Europe.

Only on goods valued at more than £390.

You no longer have any rights or legal protection in Europe - you are an alien and potentially an illegal migrant

Wrong. You will have the Legal rights of any citizen of the country you are in. Any legal rights that you would enjoy as a UK citizen that are 'greater' than the country you are in would not apply. (but then they never have anyway). If you passed through border control with proper documentation you are NOT an illegal migrant.

"

And let's not forget the EU is not Europe.

The 90 travel applies and has always applied to all EU citizens in all EU countries

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Your welcome and keep you smaller side of the wall enjoy

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By *oxychick35Couple  over a year ago

thornaby


"

Your right to travel freely across Europe and without limitations is gone.

90 days is enough for most people - if you want more then you would simply apply for more via a visa - plus this works both ways.

Your right to reciprocal health care is gone.

Wrong we do have an ongoing right to reciprocal healthcare written clearly into the deal.

You can no longer take your pets abroad.

Wrong. You apply for a pet passport within 60 days of visiting.

Erasmus ends and your children’s rights to pursue reciprocal education arrangements is gone.

Correct. But to be replaced with the Turing Scheme.

Your rights and your children’s rights to seek employment in Europe is gone.

Wrong. You would apply for work by applying for a work permit, like we do already with many other non European countries.

You will face taxation and import duties on any goods you wish to purchase in Europe or take to Europe.

Only on goods valued at more than £390.

You no longer have any rights or legal protection in Europe - you are an alien and potentially an illegal migrant

Wrong. You will have the Legal rights of any citizen of the country you are in. Any legal rights that you would enjoy as a UK citizen that are 'greater' than the country you are in would not apply. (but then they never have anyway). If you passed through border control with proper documentation you are NOT an illegal migrant.

"

so that’s that argument smashed then hey lol

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By *atEvolutionCouple  over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION

Yup. Lol.

When Facts are Facts we all should never have an argument against them. But when facts are just 'I said it so it's true' it adds nothing to who we are as humans.

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By *ovebjsMan  over a year ago

Bristol


"Mark the time.

Your right to travel freely across Europe and without limitations is gone.

Your right to reciprocal health care is gone.

You can no longer take your pets abroad.

Erasmus ends and your children’s rights to pursue reciprocal education arrangements is gone.

Your rights and your children’s rights to seek employment in Europe is gone.

You will face taxation and import duties on any goods you wish to purchase in Europe or take to Europe.

You no longer have any rights or legal protection in Europe - you are an alien and potentially an illegal migrant.

Welcome to your restricted small island life. "

Oh well!!!!

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By *atEvolutionCouple  over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION


"

And let's not forget the EU is not Europe.

The 90 travel applies and has always applied to all EU citizens in all EU countries"

True.

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By *rench letterCouple  over a year ago

Chorley,


"Mark the time.

Your right to travel freely across Europe and without limitations is gone.

Your right to reciprocal health care is gone.

You can no longer take your pets abroad.

Erasmus ends and your children’s rights to pursue reciprocal education arrangements is gone.

Your rights and your children’s rights to seek employment in Europe is gone.

You will face taxation and import duties on any goods you wish to purchase in Europe or take to Europe.

You no longer have any rights or legal protection in Europe - you are an alien and potentially an illegal migrant.

Welcome to your restricted small island life. "

We have stepped back in time thanks to Brexiters even Mr Stanley Johnson now has applied for a French passport.

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By *atEvolutionCouple  over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION


"Mark the time.

Your right to travel freely across Europe and without limitations is gone.

Your right to reciprocal health care is gone.

You can no longer take your pets abroad.

Erasmus ends and your children’s rights to pursue reciprocal education arrangements is gone.

Your rights and your children’s rights to seek employment in Europe is gone.

You will face taxation and import duties on any goods you wish to purchase in Europe or take to Europe.

You no longer have any rights or legal protection in Europe - you are an alien and potentially an illegal migrant.

Welcome to your restricted small island life.

We have stepped back in time thanks to Brexiters"

Except non of the above is true.

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By *armandwet50Couple  over a year ago

Leyland

[Removed by poster at 31/12/20 15:55:18]

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By *armandwet50Couple  over a year ago

Leyland


"

Your right to travel freely across Europe and without limitations is gone.

90 days is enough for most people - if you want more then you would simply apply for more via a visa - plus this works both ways.

Your right to reciprocal health care is gone.

Wrong we do have an ongoing right to reciprocal healthcare written clearly into the deal.

You can no longer take your pets abroad.

Wrong. You apply for a pet passport within 60 days of visiting.

Erasmus ends and your children’s rights to pursue reciprocal education arrangements is gone.

Correct. But to be replaced with the Turing Scheme.

Your rights and your children’s rights to seek employment in Europe is gone.

Wrong. You would apply for work by applying for a work permit, like we do already with many other non European countries.

You will face taxation and import duties on any goods you wish to purchase in Europe or take to Europe.

Only on goods valued at more than £390.

You no longer have any rights or legal protection in Europe - you are an alien and potentially an illegal migrant

Wrong. You will have the Legal rights of any citizen of the country you are in. Any legal rights that you would enjoy as a UK citizen that are 'greater' than the country you are in would not apply. (but then they never have anyway). If you passed through border control with proper documentation you are NOT an illegal migrant.

"

Only 2 real changes mentioned here, the Erasmus and a 2.5% tax on goods over £390. The rest has been EU law for some years. Makes you wonder if the remainers really understood what they voted for?

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By *ostafunMan  over a year ago

near ipswich


"

Your right to travel freely across Europe and without limitations is gone.

90 days is enough for most people - if you want more then you would simply apply for more via a visa - plus this works both ways.

Your right to reciprocal health care is gone.

Wrong we do have an ongoing right to reciprocal healthcare written clearly into the deal.

You can no longer take your pets abroad.

Wrong. You apply for a pet passport within 60 days of visiting.

Erasmus ends and your children’s rights to pursue reciprocal education arrangements is gone.

Correct. But to be replaced with the Turing Scheme.

Your rights and your children’s rights to seek employment in Europe is gone.

Wrong. You would apply for work by applying for a work permit, like we do already with many other non European countries.

You will face taxation and import duties on any goods you wish to purchase in Europe or take to Europe.

Only on goods valued at more than £390.

You no longer have any rights or legal protection in Europe - you are an alien and potentially an illegal migrant

Wrong. You will have the Legal rights of any citizen of the country you are in. Any legal rights that you would enjoy as a UK citizen that are 'greater' than the country you are in would not apply. (but then they never have anyway). If you passed through border control with proper documentation you are NOT an illegal migrant.

Only 2 real changes mentioned here, the Erasmus and a 2.5% tax on goods over £390. The rest has been EU law for some years. Makes you wonder if the remainers really understood what they voted for?"

Yeah and the erasmus is being replaced for the uk by the Turin scheme which means uk students will have a chance to study in better university's

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By *kstallionMan  over a year ago

milton keynes


"

Your right to travel freely across Europe and without limitations is gone.

90 days is enough for most people - if you want more then you would simply apply for more via a visa - plus this works both ways.

Your right to reciprocal health care is gone.

Wrong we do have an ongoing right to reciprocal healthcare written clearly into the deal.

You can no longer take your pets abroad.

Wrong. You apply for a pet passport within 60 days of visiting.

Erasmus ends and your children’s rights to pursue reciprocal education arrangements is gone.

Correct. But to be replaced with the Turing Scheme.

Your rights and your children’s rights to seek employment in Europe is gone.

Wrong. You would apply for work by applying for a work permit, like we do already with many other non European countries.

You will face taxation and import duties on any goods you wish to purchase in Europe or take to Europe.

Only on goods valued at more than £390.

You no longer have any rights or legal protection in Europe - you are an alien and potentially an illegal migrant

Wrong. You will have the Legal rights of any citizen of the country you are in. Any legal rights that you would enjoy as a UK citizen that are 'greater' than the country you are in would not apply. (but then they never have anyway). If you passed through border control with proper documentation you are NOT an illegal migrant.

Only 2 real changes mentioned here, the Erasmus and a 2.5% tax on goods over £390. The rest has been EU law for some years. Makes you wonder if the remainers really understood what they voted for?"

Even the tax on goods was incorrect as the OP said any goods not goods over £390. I expect that works both ways too

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

11 o clock 350 million for the NHS

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By *ostafunMan  over a year ago

near ipswich

looking forward to it maybe people will stop whinging then.

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By *armandwet50Couple  over a year ago

Leyland


"11 o clock 350 million for the NHS "

I feel you are gonna be disappointed, people really ought to learn to read. The bus clearly said to USE the 350 not give the 350, big difference.

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool

I suspect brexiteers may be quite busy in 2021.

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By *oxychick35Couple  over a year ago

thornaby


"looking forward to it maybe people will stop whinging then. "
costa mate are you on the pop already stop whinging if only eh lol

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By *ostafunMan  over a year ago

near ipswich


"looking forward to it maybe people will stop whinging then. costa mate are you on the pop already stop whinging if only eh lol"
i know i was pushing it a bit mate but its nye and you can only live in hope.

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By *oxychick35Couple  over a year ago

thornaby


"looking forward to it maybe people will stop whinging then. costa mate are you on the pop already stop whinging if only eh lol i know i was pushing it a bit mate but its nye and you can only live in hope. "
dam right ya can happy new yr buddy have a good one

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By *armandwet50Couple  over a year ago

Leyland


"I suspect brexiteers may be quite busy in 2021."

Picking up remainers slack ya mean?

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By *mmabluTV/TS  over a year ago

upton wirral


"Mark the time.

Your right to travel freely across Europe and without limitations is gone.

Your right to reciprocal health care is gone.

You can no longer take your pets abroad.

Erasmus ends and your children’s rights to pursue reciprocal education arrangements is gone.

Your rights and your children’s rights to seek employment in Europe is gone.

You will face taxation and import duties on any goods you wish to purchase in Europe or take to Europe.

You no longer have any rights or legal protection in Europe - you are an alien and potentially an illegal migrant.

Welcome to your restricted small island life. "

Rubbish check your facts.Free health care still valid,you still have legal protection in Europe etc.

typical sad remoaner no facts just lies and fake news.Get real we will be free

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By *mmabluTV/TS  over a year ago

upton wirral


"I suspect brexiteers may be quite busy in 2021."
why

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"I suspect brexiteers may be quite busy in 2021.

Picking up remainers slack ya mean?"

No idea what that means

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"I suspect brexiteers may be quite busy in 2021.why"

Coming up with new and inventive ways to defend the forthcoming shitstorm

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By *armandwet50Couple  over a year ago

Leyland


"I suspect brexiteers may be quite busy in 2021.

Picking up remainers slack ya mean?

No idea what that means"

why am i not surprised

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By *armandwet50Couple  over a year ago

Leyland


"I suspect brexiteers may be quite busy in 2021.why

Coming up with new and inventive ways to defend the forthcoming shitstorm"

By this are you implying the remainers have no intention of working hard and doing their bit to make the country better or will you if labour gets in power?

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By *al2001Man  over a year ago

kildare

Will residents of eu have to pay that 2.5 tax from goods from uk?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"You do understand that the SNP voted for a No Deal?

It's strange how a party who love the EU so much voted not to have a trade deal at all.!

Gove summed up the SNP in parliament yesterday by saying in the indy ref they would not take No for an answer and now they won't take Yes for an answer"

Sound bites from Gove are invariably nonsense and this is an example. The man is an unprincipled idiot.

The deal is a terrible one for Scotland. The SNP took ‘a principled stance’, knowing the bill would pass. They simply could not support something so damaging.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"You do understand that the SNP voted for a No Deal?

It's strange how a party who love the EU so much voted not to have a trade deal at all.!

Gove summed up the SNP in parliament yesterday by saying in the indy ref they would not take No for an answer and now they won't take Yes for an answer

Sound bites from Gove are invariably nonsense and this is an example. The man is an unprincipled idiot.

The deal is a terrible one for Scotland. The SNP took ‘a principled stance’, knowing the bill would pass. They simply could not support something so damaging. "

What would be more damaging to Scotland? Being out of the EU or out of the UK? Which one is your biggest customer and by how much?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"You do understand that the SNP voted for a No Deal?

It's strange how a party who love the EU so much voted not to have a trade deal at all.!

Gove summed up the SNP in parliament yesterday by saying in the indy ref they would not take No for an answer and now they won't take Yes for an answer

Sound bites from Gove are invariably nonsense and this is an example. The man is an unprincipled idiot.

The deal is a terrible one for Scotland. The SNP took ‘a principled stance’, knowing the bill would pass. They simply could not support something so damaging.

What would be more damaging to Scotland? Being out of the EU or out of the UK? Which one is your biggest customer and by how much? "

You mean Scotland’s biggest customer? I don’t live in Scotland, neither am I Scottish.

Being out of the EU is far more damaging.

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"You do understand that the SNP voted for a No Deal?

It's strange how a party who love the EU so much voted not to have a trade deal at all.!

Gove summed up the SNP in parliament yesterday by saying in the indy ref they would not take No for an answer and now they won't take Yes for an answer

Sound bites from Gove are invariably nonsense and this is an example. The man is an unprincipled idiot.

The deal is a terrible one for Scotland. The SNP took ‘a principled stance’, knowing the bill would pass. They simply could not support something so damaging.

What would be more damaging to Scotland? Being out of the EU or out of the UK? Which one is your biggest customer and by how much? "

Didnt Scotland vote to leave?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"You do understand that the SNP voted for a No Deal?

It's strange how a party who love the EU so much voted not to have a trade deal at all.!

Gove summed up the SNP in parliament yesterday by saying in the indy ref they would not take No for an answer and now they won't take Yes for an answer

Sound bites from Gove are invariably nonsense and this is an example. The man is an unprincipled idiot.

The deal is a terrible one for Scotland. The SNP took ‘a principled stance’, knowing the bill would pass. They simply could not support something so damaging.

What would be more damaging to Scotland? Being out of the EU or out of the UK? Which one is your biggest customer and by how much?

You mean Scotland’s biggest customer? I don’t live in Scotland, neither am I Scottish.

Being out of the EU is far more damaging."

Oh sorry, but errm, how?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The majority vote in Scotland was to stay in the EU as economically, socially and politically it was in its interests.

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By *lex46TV/TS  over a year ago

Near Wells

At 11.00 pm tonight I will be having a celebratory drink.

Exciting times ahead

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The majority vote in Scotland was to stay in the EU as economically, socially and politically it was in its interests."

Well over a million Scots thought differently but besides the point. How would they be better off economically?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"At 11.00 pm tonight I will be having a celebratory drink.

Exciting times ahead "

That's the spirit

Same here

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By *inn OP   Man  over a year ago

edinburgh

Where is the truth - so I used a Tory trick and just said what I want you to believe.

But then, we have nothing in common, not even commonwealth you thought would trade with you, the Japan deal is crap, the real truth of the Brexit deal is still to unravel, billions has been wasted on Brexit, secretly they admit it will take 50 years for the UK to recover, but that doesn’t worry them because they are rich.

NI has a special status and now Gibraltar.

Scotland will never settle. Many of those who voted to stay in the UK feel betrayed. The biggest block of NO voters was in the 55-90 age group - a lot of them are no longer with us. In those years since the Scottish referendum many young people have reached the voting age and they are causing the swing to independence.

These are facts - less no voters alive and many new young yes voters.

Westminster will fight tooth and nail to squash the Scottish uprising.

But it can’t be stopped. The right of a sovereign nation underpinned the Brexit argument, that and anti migration/immigration sentiments.

So you can’t deny the Scottish people their sovereign right and their true nature to be part of Europe.

European membership is over, Brexit is done, but the division remains. There is a new phase of political battles in 21.

See you on the other side.

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By *ess n BenCouple  over a year ago

Didcot


"At 11.00 pm tonight I will be having a celebratory drink.

Exciting times ahead "

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"The majority vote in Scotland was to stay in the EU as economically, socially and politically it was in its interests.

Well over a million Scots thought differently but besides the point. How would they be better off economically? "

Millions of people thought leave wasmt a great idea in the uk so you have a very selective view about democracy.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Where is the truth - so I used a Tory trick and just said what I want you to believe.

But then, we have nothing in common, not even commonwealth you thought would trade with you, the Japan deal is crap, the real truth of the Brexit deal is still to unravel, billions has been wasted on Brexit, secretly they admit it will take 50 years for the UK to recover, but that doesn’t worry them because they are rich.

NI has a special status and now Gibraltar.

Scotland will never settle. Many of those who voted to stay in the UK feel betrayed. The biggest block of NO voters was in the 55-90 age group - a lot of them are no longer with us. In those years since the Scottish referendum many young people have reached the voting age and they are causing the swing to independence.

These are facts - less no voters alive and many new young yes voters.

Westminster will fight tooth and nail to squash the Scottish uprising.

But it can’t be stopped. The right of a sovereign nation underpinned the Brexit argument, that and anti migration/immigration sentiments.

So you can’t deny the Scottish people their sovereign right and their true nature to be part of Europe.

European membership is over, Brexit is done, but the division remains. There is a new phase of political battles in 21.

See you on the other side. "

I'm all for Scottish independence if that's what the people want but I've said before, once they think about it properly and they are faced with the reality, there's not a chance in hell they will vote to break from the UK

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By *rench letterCouple  over a year ago

Chorley,


"Where is the truth - so I used a Tory trick and just said what I want you to believe.

But then, we have nothing in common, not even commonwealth you thought would trade with you, the Japan deal is crap, the real truth of the Brexit deal is still to unravel, billions has been wasted on Brexit, secretly they admit it will take 50 years for the UK to recover, but that doesn’t worry them because they are rich.

NI has a special status and now Gibraltar.

Scotland will never settle. Many of those who voted to stay in the UK feel betrayed. The biggest block of NO voters was in the 55-90 age group - a lot of them are no longer with us. In those years since the Scottish referendum many young people have reached the voting age and they are causing the swing to independence.

These are facts - less no voters alive and many new young yes voters.

Westminster will fight tooth and nail to squash the Scottish uprising.

But it can’t be stopped. The right of a sovereign nation underpinned the Brexit argument, that and anti migration/immigration sentiments.

So you can’t deny the Scottish people their sovereign right and their true nature to be part of Europe.

European membership is over, Brexit is done, but the division remains. There is a new phase of political battles in 21.

See you on the other side. "

I feel so sorry for Scotland as like you say Scotland wanted still be apart of the European union and have spoiled it for the younger generation as want to move freely around Europe to work and live.

I certainly won't be celebrating at 11pm it's a very safe time as be being part of the European union.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The majority vote in Scotland was to stay in the EU as economically, socially and politically it was in its interests.

Well over a million Scots thought differently but besides the point. How would they be better off economically?

Millions of people thought leave wasmt a great idea in the uk so you have a very selective view about democracy. "

What I'm saying is, if people think leaving the EU is going to be damaging for Scotland then leaving their biggest trading partner, the UK, is going to be even more damaging isn't it? Surely, by that measure, don't you think?

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"Where is the truth - so I used a Tory trick and just said what I want you to believe.

But then, we have nothing in common, not even commonwealth you thought would trade with you, the Japan deal is crap, the real truth of the Brexit deal is still to unravel, billions has been wasted on Brexit, secretly they admit it will take 50 years for the UK to recover, but that doesn’t worry them because they are rich.

NI has a special status and now Gibraltar.

Scotland will never settle. Many of those who voted to stay in the UK feel betrayed. The biggest block of NO voters was in the 55-90 age group - a lot of them are no longer with us. In those years since the Scottish referendum many young people have reached the voting age and they are causing the swing to independence.

These are facts - less no voters alive and many new young yes voters.

Westminster will fight tooth and nail to squash the Scottish uprising.

But it can’t be stopped. The right of a sovereign nation underpinned the Brexit argument, that and anti migration/immigration sentiments.

So you can’t deny the Scottish people their sovereign right and their true nature to be part of Europe.

European membership is over, Brexit is done, but the division remains. There is a new phase of political battles in 21.

See you on the other side.

I'm all for Scottish independence if that's what the people want but I've said before, once they think about it properly and they are faced with the reality, there's not a chance in hell they will vote to break from the UK "

Sounds a bit like the remain campaign

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"The majority vote in Scotland was to stay in the EU as economically, socially and politically it was in its interests.

Well over a million Scots thought differently but besides the point. How would they be better off economically?

Millions of people thought leave wasmt a great idea in the uk so you have a very selective view about democracy.

What I'm saying is, if people think leaving the EU is going to be damaging for Scotland then leaving their biggest trading partner, the UK, is going to be even more damaging isn't it? Surely, by that measure, don't you think? "

Not really..as they will prob join the eu

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By *ostafunMan  over a year ago

near ipswich


"The majority vote in Scotland was to stay in the EU as economically, socially and politically it was in its interests.

Well over a million Scots thought differently but besides the point. How would they be better off economically?

Millions of people thought leave wasmt a great idea in the uk so you have a very selective view about democracy.

What I'm saying is, if people think leaving the EU is going to be damaging for Scotland then leaving their biggest trading partner, the UK, is going to be even more damaging isn't it? Surely, by that measure, don't you think?

Not really..as they will prob join the eu"

do you think it will be that easy?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The majority vote in Scotland was to stay in the EU as economically, socially and politically it was in its interests.

Well over a million Scots thought differently but besides the point. How would they be better off economically?

Millions of people thought leave wasmt a great idea in the uk so you have a very selective view about democracy.

What I'm saying is, if people think leaving the EU is going to be damaging for Scotland then leaving their biggest trading partner, the UK, is going to be even more damaging isn't it? Surely, by that measure, don't you think?

Not really..as they will prob join the eu"

ye OK

So they'll leave their biggest customer/partner to join a smaller one? Yep, that makes sense

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By *ykmwyldTV/TS  over a year ago

Belpre

11:00pm - The UK finally gets it's independence back ; ) !

The UK should never have given up their independence to start with, it was a HUGE mistake !

Thank goodness wiser minds prevailed ; ) !

Now you can finally get back up and stand on your own feet once more ; ) !

Sincere Congratulations to the UK ; ) !

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"The majority vote in Scotland was to stay in the EU as economically, socially and politically it was in its interests.

Well over a million Scots thought differently but besides the point. How would they be better off economically?

Millions of people thought leave wasmt a great idea in the uk so you have a very selective view about democracy.

What I'm saying is, if people think leaving the EU is going to be damaging for Scotland then leaving their biggest trading partner, the UK, is going to be even more damaging isn't it? Surely, by that measure, don't you think?

Not really..as they will prob join the eu

ye OK

So they'll leave their biggest customer/partner to join a smaller one? Yep, that makes sense "

Someone has started drinking early

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By *oxychick35Couple  over a year ago

thornaby


"11:00pm - The UK finally gets it's independence back ; ) !

The UK should never have given up their independence to start with, it was a HUGE mistake !

Thank goodness wiser minds prevailed ; ) !

Now you can finally get back up and stand on your own feet once more ; ) !

Sincere Congratulations to the UK ; ) !"

THANK YOU

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"11:00pm - The UK finally gets it's independence back ; ) !

The UK should never have given up their independence to start with, it was a HUGE mistake !

Thank goodness wiser minds prevailed ; ) !

Now you can finally get back up and stand on your own feet once more ; ) !

Sincere Congratulations to the UK ; ) !"

Nigel Farage

Paul nuttall

An widdincome

=wiser minds

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By *ackal1Couple  over a year ago

Manchester

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Manchester

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"

Your right to travel freely across Europe and without limitations is gone.

90 days is enough for most people - if you want more then you would simply apply for more via a visa - plus this works both ways.

Your right to reciprocal health care is gone.

Wrong we do have an ongoing right to reciprocal healthcare written clearly into the deal.

You can no longer take your pets abroad.

Wrong. You apply for a pet passport within 60 days of visiting.

Erasmus ends and your children’s rights to pursue reciprocal education arrangements is gone.

Correct. But to be replaced with the Turing Scheme.

Your rights and your children’s rights to seek employment in Europe is gone.

Wrong. You would apply for work by applying for a work permit, like we do already with many other non European countries.

You will face taxation and import duties on any goods you wish to purchase in Europe or take to Europe.

Only on goods valued at more than £390.

You no longer have any rights or legal protection in Europe - you are an alien and potentially an illegal migrant

Wrong. You will have the Legal rights of any citizen of the country you are in. Any legal rights that you would enjoy as a UK citizen that are 'greater' than the country you are in would not apply. (but then they never have anyway). If you passed through border control with proper documentation you are NOT an illegal migrant.

Just for balance

Your right to travel freely across Europe and without limitations is gone."

90 days is enough for most people - if you want more then you would simply apply for more via a visa - plus this works both ways.

A.

A lot of U.K. citizens used to spend 6 months wintering in Spain or France . They now can’t as they have to apply for residency. Not sure of what JK rights they lose if they do this.

"Your right to reciprocal health care is gone."

Wrong we do have an ongoing right to reciprocal healthcare written clearly into the deal.

A.

Full details are not issued on actual coverage of new card but fact , Norway, Switzerland , Lichtenstein , Iceland no longer included.

Whilst the new card says Global think that a little bit of an exaggeration as the countries are limited to a couple of U.K. dominions in the Caribbean New Zealand, Australia oh and that big tourist destination St Helena

Btw This isn’t a point to argue just make sure you have insurance as both the old and new schemes don’t cover very much when it gets serious.

"You can no longer take your pets abroad."

Wrong. You apply for a pet passport within 60 days of visiting.

A.

No idea and don’t care as my dog died years ago.

"Erasmus ends and your children’s rights to pursue reciprocal education arrangements is gone."

Correct. But to be replaced with the Turing Scheme.

A.

According to Boris the fund will be £2800 per student. Hope you’ve got rich parents because that won’t buy diddly. US universities can be $40k per term.

"Your rights and your children’s rights to seek employment in Europe is gone."

Wrong. You would apply for work by applying for a work permit, like we do already with many other non European countries.

A

Before you used to just turn up and apply for a job without having to prove you had one or apply for a visa.

Btw the U.K. wasn’t part of this truly as we opted out of the full freedom of movement so even though our kids could freely travel not all Europe could feely travel to us as we were also not part of the Schengen area.

Who on here knew we had a veto on immigrants?

Just as an irritant we are now in the slow lane at the airports.

"You will face taxation and import duties on any goods you wish to purchase in Europe or take to Europe."

Only on goods valued at more than £390.

A.

We also have customs costs and associated admin costs including 27 new VAT arrangements to somehow come to terms with. This may mean a lot of companies have to have fiscal representation in the relevant countries to recover vat and in some cases actually trade in that country to qualify for the vat refunds. This is all very costly.

"You no longer have any rights or legal protection in Europe - you are an alien and potentially an illegal migrant"

Wrong. You will have the Legal rights of any citizen of the country you are in. Any legal rights that you would enjoy as a UK citizen that are 'greater' than the country you are in would not apply. (but then they never have anyway). If you passed through border control with proper documentation you are NOT an illegal migrant.

A.

We are governed by each country’s laws as with the rest of the world now. We no longer have the over arching safety of EU protections including goods and services. Good luck with some Eastern European laws if you travel or if you purchase something faulty.

You can no longer claim your EU rights of redress and have to claim directly on your own.

Most large manufacturers Im sure will still stand by warranties though."

Re the new student scheme,they have refused to committ to any further payment beyond the 1st year.

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By *ackal1Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"

Your right to travel freely across Europe and without limitations is gone.

90 days is enough for most people - if you want more then you would simply apply for more via a visa - plus this works both ways.

Your right to reciprocal health care is gone.

Wrong we do have an ongoing right to reciprocal healthcare written clearly into the deal.

You can no longer take your pets abroad.

Wrong. You apply for a pet passport within 60 days of visiting.

Erasmus ends and your children’s rights to pursue reciprocal education arrangements is gone.

Correct. But to be replaced with the Turing Scheme.

Your rights and your children’s rights to seek employment in Europe is gone.

Wrong. You would apply for work by applying for a work permit, like we do already with many other non European countries.

You will face taxation and import duties on any goods you wish to purchase in Europe or take to Europe.

Only on goods valued at more than £390.

You no longer have any rights or legal protection in Europe - you are an alien and potentially an illegal migrant

Wrong. You will have the Legal rights of any citizen of the country you are in. Any legal rights that you would enjoy as a UK citizen that are 'greater' than the country you are in would not apply. (but then they never have anyway). If you passed through border control with proper documentation you are NOT an illegal migrant.

"

Just for balance and hope this is now legible.

Point

Your right to travel freely across Europe and without limitations is gone."

90 days is enough for most people - if you want more then you would simply apply for more via a visa - plus this works both ways.

A.

A lot of U.K. citizens used to spend 6 months wintering in Spain or France . They now can’t as they have to apply for residency. Not sure of what UK rights they lose if they do this.

Point

"Your right to reciprocal health care is gone."

Wrong we do have an ongoing right to reciprocal healthcare written clearly into the deal.

A.

Full details are not issued on actual coverage of new card but fact , Norway, Switzerland , Lichtenstein , Iceland no longer included.

Whilst the new card says Global think that a little bit of an exaggeration as the countries are limited to a couple of U.K. dominions in the Caribbean New Zealand, Australia oh and that big tourist destination St Helena

Btw This isn’t a point to argue just make sure you have insurance as both the old and new schemes don’t cover very much when it gets serious.

Point

"You can no longer take your pets abroad."

Wrong. You apply for a pet passport within 60 days of visiting.

A.

No idea and don’t care as my dog died years ago.

Point

"Erasmus ends and your children’s rights to pursue reciprocal education arrangements is gone."

Correct. But to be replaced with the Turing Scheme.

A.

According to Boris the fund will be £2800 per student. Hope you’ve got rich parents because that won’t buy diddly. US universities can be $40k per term.

Point

"Your rights and your children’s rights to seek employment in Europe is gone."

Wrong. You would apply for work by applying for a work permit, like we do already with many other non European countries.

A

Before you used to just turn up and apply for a job without having to prove you had one or apply for a visa.

Btw the U.K. wasn’t part of this truly as we opted out of the full freedom of movement so even though our kids could freely travel not all Europe could feely travel to us as we were also not part of the Schengen area.

Who on here knew we had a veto on immigrants?

Just as an irritant we are now in the slow lane at the airports.

Point

"You will face taxation and import duties on any goods you wish to purchase in Europe or take to Europe."

Only on goods valued at more than £390.

A.

We also have customs costs and associated admin costs including 27 new VAT arrangements to somehow come to terms with. This may mean a lot of companies have to have fiscal representation in the relevant countries to recover vat and in some cases actually trade in that country to qualify for the vat refunds. This is all very costly.

Point

"You no longer have any rights or legal protection in Europe - you are an alien and potentially an illegal migrant"

Wrong. You will have the Legal rights of any citizen of the country you are in. Any legal rights that you would enjoy as a UK citizen that are 'greater' than the country you are in would not apply. (but then they never have anyway). If you passed through border control with proper documentation you are NOT an illegal migrant.

A.

We are governed by each country’s laws as with the rest of the world now. We no longer have the over arching safety of EU protections including goods and services. Good luck with some Eastern European laws if you travel or if you purchase something faulty.

You can no longer claim your EU rights of redress and have to claim directly on your own.

Most large manufacturers Im sure will still stand by warranties though.

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By *ackal1Couple  over a year ago

Manchester

Sorry for the constant attempt

For some reason spacing on my phone isn’t matching on the post.

Have a good evening everyone.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So you can’t deny the Scottish people their sovereign right and their true nature to be part of Europe.

European membership is over, Brexit is done, but the division remains. There is a new phase of political battles in 21.

See you on the other side.

I'm all for Scottish independence if that's what the people want but I've said before, once they think about it properly and they are faced with the reality, there's not a chance in hell they will vote to break from the UK "

Ooh I think they might have enough intelligence to weigh up the pros and cons for their own country’s independence. I’m not sure they’ll welcome an outsider’s view, particularly one that’s out of touch with the politics and has little understanding of the country at this moment.

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By *oxychick35Couple  over a year ago

thornaby

Aw lichtenstein is a big tourist hotspot aswell isn’t it lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Oh, and Pet Passports are no longer valid.

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By *inn OP   Man  over a year ago

edinburgh


"Where is the truth - so I used a Tory trick and just said what I want you to believe.

But then, we have nothing in common, not even commonwealth you thought would trade with you, the Japan deal is crap, the real truth of the Brexit deal is still to unravel, billions has been wasted on Brexit, secretly they admit it will take 50 years for the UK to recover, but that doesn’t worry them because they are rich.

NI has a special status and now Gibraltar.

Scotland will never settle. Many of those who voted to stay in the UK feel betrayed. The biggest block of NO voters was in the 55-90 age group - a lot of them are no longer with us. In those years since the Scottish referendum many young people have reached the voting age and they are causing the swing to independence.

These are facts - less no voters alive and many new young yes voters.

Westminster will fight tooth and nail to squash the Scottish uprising.

But it can’t be stopped. The right of a sovereign nation underpinned the Brexit argument, that and anti migration/immigration sentiments.

So you can’t deny the Scottish people their sovereign right and their true nature to be part of Europe.

European membership is over, Brexit is done, but the division remains. There is a new phase of political battles in 21.

See you on the other side.

I'm all for Scottish independence if that's what the people want but I've said before, once they think about it properly and they are faced with the reality, there's not a chance in hell they will vote to break from the UK "

I’m confident they will because it’s not just the issues that were evident in the Brexit debate it’s also the treatment of Scotland by the English MPs. Dismissive and derisory. The Scottish voice is ignored in Westminster and that is the decisive point for Scotland - you can’t stop this as your politicians ignore Scotland.

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By *ackal1Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"Aw lichtenstein is a big tourist hotspot aswell isn’t it lol"

They have fantastic toy soldiers that March and bang drums like Brexiteers I’ve been told

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By *our LamourCouple  over a year ago

'near that London'


"The majority vote in Scotland was to stay in the EU as economically, socially and politically it was in its interests.

Well over a million Scots thought differently but besides the point. How would they be better off economically?

Millions of people thought leave wasmt a great idea in the uk so you have a very selective view about democracy.

What I'm saying is, if people think leaving the EU is going to be damaging for Scotland then leaving their biggest trading partner, the UK, is going to be even more damaging isn't it? Surely, by that measure, don't you think?

Not really..as they will prob join the eu"

Scotland will never be allowed to join the EU . Any membership application if independence happens will be vetoed for internal political reasons by ( 1) Spain - to avoid a Catalan breakaway (2) France - to avoid a Basque breakaway (3) Belgium - to avoid a Walloon breakaway .....I could go on .. it’s Realpolitik (s)

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By *ssexbloke72Man  over a year ago

Poplar


"Where is the truth - so I used a Tory trick and just said what I want you to believe.

But then, we have nothing in common, not even commonwealth you thought would trade with you, the Japan deal is crap, the real truth of the Brexit deal is still to unravel, billions has been wasted on Brexit, secretly they admit it will take 50 years for the UK to recover, but that doesn’t worry them because they are rich.

NI has a special status and now Gibraltar.

Scotland will never settle. Many of those who voted to stay in the UK feel betrayed. The biggest block of NO voters was in the 55-90 age group - a lot of them are no longer with us. In those years since the Scottish referendum many young people have reached the voting age and they are causing the swing to independence.

These are facts - less no voters alive and many new young yes voters.

Westminster will fight tooth and nail to squash the Scottish uprising.

But it can’t be stopped. The right of a sovereign nation underpinned the Brexit argument, that and anti migration/immigration sentiments.

So you can’t deny the Scottish people their sovereign right and their true nature to be part of Europe.

European membership is over, Brexit is done, but the division remains. There is a new phase of political battles in 21.

See you on the other side.

I'm all for Scottish independence if that's what the people want but I've said before, once they think about it properly and they are faced with the reality, there's not a chance in hell they will vote to break from the UK

I’m confident they will because it’s not just the issues that were evident in the Brexit debate it’s also the treatment of Scotland by the English MPs. Dismissive and derisory. The Scottish voice is ignored in Westminster and that is the decisive point for Scotland - you can’t stop this as your politicians ignore Scotland. "

Did somebody say something.!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So you can’t deny the Scottish people their sovereign right and their true nature to be part of Europe.

European membership is over, Brexit is done, but the division remains. There is a new phase of political battles in 21.

See you on the other side.

I'm all for Scottish independence if that's what the people want but I've said before, once they think about it properly and they are faced with the reality, there's not a chance in hell they will vote to break from the UK

Ooh I think they might have enough intelligence to weigh up the pros and cons for their own country’s independence. I’m not sure they’ll welcome an outsider’s view, particularly one that’s out of touch with the politics and has little understanding of the country at this moment."

Yes that's what I said.

And as another outsider you do I suppose

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By *oi_LucyCouple  over a year ago

Barbados


"

Your right to travel freely across Europe and without limitations is gone.

90 days is enough for most people - if you want more then you would simply apply for more via a visa - plus this works both ways.

Your right to reciprocal health care is gone.

Wrong we do have an ongoing right to reciprocal healthcare written clearly into the deal.

You can no longer take your pets abroad.

Wrong. You apply for a pet passport within 60 days of visiting.

Erasmus ends and your children’s rights to pursue reciprocal education arrangements is gone.

Correct. But to be replaced with the Turing Scheme.

Your rights and your children’s rights to seek employment in Europe is gone.

Wrong. You would apply for work by applying for a work permit, like we do already with many other non European countries.

You will face taxation and import duties on any goods you wish to purchase in Europe or take to Europe.

Only on goods valued at more than £390.

You no longer have any rights or legal protection in Europe - you are an alien and potentially an illegal migrant

Wrong. You will have the Legal rights of any citizen of the country you are in. Any legal rights that you would enjoy as a UK citizen that are 'greater' than the country you are in would not apply. (but then they never have anyway). If you passed through border control with proper documentation you are NOT an illegal migrant.

Only 2 real changes mentioned here, the Erasmus and a 2.5% tax on goods over £390. The rest has been EU law for some years. Makes you wonder if the remainers really understood what they voted for?"

It funny how leave voters keep banging on about things like “sovereignty” and yet have the hardest time trying to understand the concept of “rights”.

“I have the right to travel and work in the EU” is different to “I can apply for a visa and permission to travel and work in the EU”.

If you want to try and pretend those two statements are equal then you will have to come to terms that Brexit was meaningless in that regards then. As you haven’t stopped immigration coming here.

-Matt

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Your right to travel freely across Europe and without limitations is gone.

90 days is enough for most people - if you want more then you would simply apply for more via a visa - plus this works both ways.

Your right to reciprocal health care is gone.

Wrong we do have an ongoing right to reciprocal healthcare written clearly into the deal.

You can no longer take your pets abroad.

Wrong. You apply for a pet passport within 60 days of visiting.

Erasmus ends and your children’s rights to pursue reciprocal education arrangements is gone.

Correct. But to be replaced with the Turing Scheme.

Your rights and your children’s rights to seek employment in Europe is gone.

Wrong. You would apply for work by applying for a work permit, like we do already with many other non European countries.

You will face taxation and import duties on any goods you wish to purchase in Europe or take to Europe.

Only on goods valued at more than £390.

You no longer have any rights or legal protection in Europe - you are an alien and potentially an illegal migrant

Wrong. You will have the Legal rights of any citizen of the country you are in. Any legal rights that you would enjoy as a UK citizen that are 'greater' than the country you are in would not apply. (but then they never have anyway). If you passed through border control with proper documentation you are NOT an illegal migrant.

Only 2 real changes mentioned here, the Erasmus and a 2.5% tax on goods over £390. The rest has been EU law for some years. Makes you wonder if the remainers really understood what they voted for?

It funny how leave voters keep banging on about things like “sovereignty” and yet have the hardest time trying to understand the concept of “rights”.

“I have the right to travel and work in the EU” is different to “I can apply for a visa and permission to travel and work in the EU”.

If you want to try and pretend those two statements are equal then you will have to come to terms that Brexit was meaningless in that regards then. As you haven’t stopped immigration coming here.

-Matt"

Another one who doesn't understand what right we had while in the EU

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By *ucianpoundCouple  over a year ago

Cap d’Agde, France


"Mark the time.

Your right to travel freely across Europe and without limitations is gone.

Your right to reciprocal health care is gone.

You can no longer take your pets abroad.

Erasmus ends and your children’s rights to pursue reciprocal education arrangements is gone.

Your rights and your children’s rights to seek employment in Europe is gone.

You will face taxation and import duties on any goods you wish to purchase in Europe or take to Europe.

You no longer have any rights or legal protection in Europe - you are an alien and potentially an illegal migrant.

Welcome to your restricted small island life. "

‘Not if you’re Irish’

and if you live in N. Ireland you have the best of both worlds.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"11:00pm - The UK finally gets it's independence back ; ) !

The UK should never have given up their independence to start with, it was a HUGE mistake !

Thank goodness wiser minds prevailed ; ) !

Now you can finally get back up and stand on your own feet once more ; ) !

Sincere Congratulations to the UK ; ) !"

Just like labour warned 48 years ago, the end of neo liberalism here, this right wing project is over.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The majority vote in Scotland was to stay in the EU as economically, socially and politically it was in its interests.

Well over a million Scots thought differently but besides the point. How would they be better off economically?

Millions of people thought leave wasmt a great idea in the uk so you have a very selective view about democracy.

What I'm saying is, if people think leaving the EU is going to be damaging for Scotland then leaving their biggest trading partner, the UK, is going to be even more damaging isn't it? Surely, by that measure, don't you think?

Not really..as they will prob join the eu

Scotland will never be allowed to join the EU . Any membership application if independence happens will be vetoed for internal political reasons by ( 1) Spain - to avoid a Catalan breakaway (2) France - to avoid a Basque breakaway (3) Belgium - to avoid a Walloon breakaway .....I could go on .. it’s Realpolitik (s) "

Oooh you are so out of touch lol

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By *oxychick35Couple  over a year ago

thornaby


"Aw lichtenstein is a big tourist hotspot aswell isn’t it lol

They have fantastic toy soldiers that March and bang drums like Brexiteers I’ve been told "

been told lol you know you have a collection bud lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So you can’t deny the Scottish people their sovereign right and their true nature to be part of Europe.

European membership is over, Brexit is done, but the division remains. There is a new phase of political battles in 21.

See you on the other side.

I'm all for Scottish independence if that's what the people want but I've said before, once they think about it properly and they are faced with the reality, there's not a chance in hell they will vote to break from the UK

Ooh I think they might have enough intelligence to weigh up the pros and cons for their own country’s independence. I’m not sure they’ll welcome an outsider’s view, particularly one that’s out of touch with the politics and has little understanding of the country at this moment.

Yes that's what I said.

And as another outsider you do I suppose "

There’s every chance in hell they’ll vote to leave. That’s where you are out of touch.

The Scots have enough political savvy to work if out for themselves but to understand the mood, you really need to be either in the country or have strong ties to it. I’m an observer, tied to no part of the UK

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By *ust some cock suckerMan  over a year ago

Preston


"Mark the time.

Your right to travel freely across Europe and without limitations is gone.

Your right to reciprocal health care is gone.

You can no longer take your pets abroad.

Erasmus ends and your children’s rights to pursue reciprocal education arrangements is gone.

Your rights and your children’s rights to seek employment in Europe is gone.

You will face taxation and import duties on any goods you wish to purchase in Europe or take to Europe.

You no longer have any rights or legal protection in Europe - you are an alien and potentially an illegal migrant.

Welcome to your restricted small island life. "

As a remainer I don't give any of that any weight to be honest

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So you can’t deny the Scottish people their sovereign right and their true nature to be part of Europe.

European membership is over, Brexit is done, but the division remains. There is a new phase of political battles in 21.

See you on the other side.

I'm all for Scottish independence if that's what the people want but I've said before, once they think about it properly and they are faced with the reality, there's not a chance in hell they will vote to break from the UK

Ooh I think they might have enough intelligence to weigh up the pros and cons for their own country’s independence. I’m not sure they’ll welcome an outsider’s view, particularly one that’s out of touch with the politics and has little understanding of the country at this moment.

Yes that's what I said.

And as another outsider you do I suppose

There’s every chance in hell they’ll vote to leave. That’s where you are out of touch.

The Scots have enough political savvy to work if out for themselves but to understand the mood, you really need to be either in the country or have strong ties to it. I’m an observer, tied to no part of the UK"

We'll see

And I'm Batman

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By *ackal1Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"Aw lichtenstein is a big tourist hotspot aswell isn’t it lol

They have fantastic toy soldiers that March and bang drums like Brexiteers I’ve been told been told lol you know you have a collection bud lol "

Ha ha

Many years ago and miss playing with my airfix 1/32 scale.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan  over a year ago

here

Transition ends

We did it

Welcome to a new era for the United Kingdom

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By *uliaChrisCouple  over a year ago

westerham


"Transition ends

We did it

Welcome to a new era for the United Kingdom

"

And the worlds still turning with Britain at the centre

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan  over a year ago

here

“What we call the beginning is often the end. And to make an end is to make a beginning. The end is where we start from.”

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By *hagTonightMan  over a year ago

From the land of haribos.

I can travel anywhere still, as sweden are in the eu, but eu is now saying goodbye to britain.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Mark the time.

Your right to travel freely across Europe and without limitations is gone.

Your right to reciprocal health care is gone.

You can no longer take your pets abroad.

Erasmus ends and your children’s rights to pursue reciprocal education arrangements is gone.

Your rights and your children’s rights to seek employment in Europe is gone.

You will face taxation and import duties on any goods you wish to purchase in Europe or take to Europe.

You no longer have any rights or legal protection in Europe - you are an alien and potentially an illegal migrant.

Welcome to your restricted small island life. "

Lol

Absolutely none of these points affect me or my partner in the slightest.....am I supposed to be upset?

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By *uliaChrisCouple  over a year ago

westerham


"Mark the time.

Your right to travel freely across Europe and without limitations is gone.

Your right to reciprocal health care is gone.

You can no longer take your pets abroad.

Erasmus ends and your children’s rights to pursue reciprocal education arrangements is gone.

Your rights and your children’s rights to seek employment in Europe is gone.

You will face taxation and import duties on any goods you wish to purchase in Europe or take to Europe.

You no longer have any rights or legal protection in Europe - you are an alien and potentially an illegal migrant.

Welcome to your restricted small island life.

Lol

Absolutely none of these points affect me or my partner in the slightest.....am I supposed to be upset? "

It’s probably already been answered but for example you can still take your pet abroad with a passport.

I’m all for a good bit of joshing between us but at least start off with some factual statements then add your own opinions. You can’t just make stuff up.

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By *rench letterCouple  over a year ago

Chorley,


"Transition ends

We did it

Welcome to a new era for the United Kingdom

"

You mean step back in time and ruin it for the future generations.

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By *ackal1Couple  over a year ago

Manchester

It used to be that the U.K. was at the centre of every world map. Just lately feels like we are in the crease in the middle!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

And I'm proud to live in a country where once the people have spoken their wishes are carried out. Happy New year to all

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By *uliaChrisCouple  over a year ago

westerham


"It used to be that the U.K. was at the centre of every world map. Just lately feels like we are in the crease in the middle! "

Rule Britannia

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By *mmmMaybeCouple  over a year ago

West Wales


"Mark the time.

Your right to travel freely across Europe and without limitations is gone.

Your right to reciprocal health care is gone.

You can no longer take your pets abroad.

Erasmus ends and your children’s rights to pursue reciprocal education arrangements is gone.

Your rights and your children’s rights to seek employment in Europe is gone.

You will face taxation and import duties on any goods you wish to purchase in Europe or take to Europe.

You no longer have any rights or legal protection in Europe - you are an alien and potentially an illegal migrant.

Welcome to your restricted small island life. "

Ffs where have you been for the past few days on the virus & Brexit threads?

Thought we’d put most of these to bed as BS?

S

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"And I'm proud to live in a country where once the people have spoken their wishes are carried out. Happy New year to all "

Another few more years and the People will speak again and the Tory filth will ejected from power, soooo happy!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"And I'm proud to live in a country where once the people have spoken their wishes are carried out. Happy New year to all

Another few more years and the People will speak again and the Tory filth will ejected from power, soooo happy! "

If you're an example of the opposition, no, they won't, not a chance

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By *mmmMaybeCouple  over a year ago

West Wales


"And I'm proud to live in a country where once the people have spoken their wishes are carried out. Happy New year to all

Another few more years and the People will speak again and the Tory filth will ejected from power, soooo happy! "

Not with KS in charge they won’t! Blokes got more faces than the Sgt Pepper album cover!!

S

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Mark the time.

Your right to travel freely across Europe and without limitations is gone.

Your right to reciprocal health care is gone.

You can no longer take your pets abroad.

Erasmus ends and your children’s rights to pursue reciprocal education arrangements is gone.

Your rights and your children’s rights to seek employment in Europe is gone.

You will face taxation and import duties on any goods you wish to purchase in Europe or take to Europe.

You no longer have any rights or legal protection in Europe - you are an alien and potentially an illegal migrant.

Welcome to your restricted small island life.

Lol

Absolutely none of these points affect me or my partner in the slightest.....am I supposed to be upset?

It’s probably already been answered but for example you can still take your pet abroad with a passport.

I’m all for a good bit of joshing between us but at least start off with some factual statements then add your own opinions. You can’t just make stuff up."

No you can’t. They are now invalid.

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By *uliaChrisCouple  over a year ago

westerham


"Mark the time.

Your right to travel freely across Europe and without limitations is gone.

Your right to reciprocal health care is gone.

You can no longer take your pets abroad.

Erasmus ends and your children’s rights to pursue reciprocal education arrangements is gone.

Your rights and your children’s rights to seek employment in Europe is gone.

You will face taxation and import duties on any goods you wish to purchase in Europe or take to Europe.

You no longer have any rights or legal protection in Europe - you are an alien and potentially an illegal migrant.

Welcome to your restricted small island life.

Lol

Absolutely none of these points affect me or my partner in the slightest.....am I supposed to be upset?

It’s probably already been answered but for example you can still take your pet abroad with a passport.

I’m all for a good bit of joshing between us but at least start off with some factual statements then add your own opinions. You can’t just make stuff up.

No you can’t. They are now invalid."

You claimed you can’t now take your pet abroad

From gov.uk this morning:

“When travelling to an EU country or Northern Ireland, your pet needs:

a microchip

a valid rabies vaccination

an animal health certificate unless you have a pet passport issued in an EU country or Northern Ireland

tapeworm treatment for dogs if you’re travelling directly to Finland, Ireland, Northern Ireland, Norway or Malta”

Project fear is dead. We are laughing at ridiculous scare stories, you damage your credibility by making stuff up.

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By *atEvolutionCouple  over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION

Port of Dover Twitter and Eurotunnel Twitter are reporting NO freight delays on the first day of Brexit.

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By *atEvolutionCouple  over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION


"Do the brexiteers have like a bat phone that alerts them,when someone says something negative about Brexit?

"

No. We have you.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Mark the time.

Your right to travel freely across Europe and without limitations is gone.

Your right to reciprocal health care is gone.

You can no longer take your pets abroad.

Erasmus ends and your children’s rights to pursue reciprocal education arrangements is gone.

Your rights and your children’s rights to seek employment in Europe is gone.

You will face taxation and import duties on any goods you wish to purchase in Europe or take to Europe.

You no longer have any rights or legal protection in Europe - you are an alien and potentially an illegal migrant.

Welcome to your restricted small island life.

Lol

Absolutely none of these points affect me or my partner in the slightest.....am I supposed to be upset?

It’s probably already been answered but for example you can still take your pet abroad with a passport.

I’m all for a good bit of joshing between us but at least start off with some factual statements then add your own opinions. You can’t just make stuff up.

No you can’t. They are now invalid.

You claimed you can’t now take your pet abroad

From gov.uk this morning:

“When travelling to an EU country or Northern Ireland, your pet needs:

a microchip

a valid rabies vaccination

an animal health certificate unless you have a pet passport issued in an EU country or Northern Ireland

tapeworm treatment for dogs if you’re travelling directly to Finland, Ireland, Northern Ireland, Norway or Malta”

Project fear is dead. We are laughing at ridiculous scare stories, you damage your credibility by making stuff up.

"

No.....I wrote ‘they are invalid’. You cannot use a Pet Passport as they are invalid.

In your haste to categorise the correction, you’ve made a huge assumption that’s made you blind to the words I wrote.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Also, that’s outward journeys. An AHS wouldn’t allow the animal back into the U.K.

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By *inn OP   Man  over a year ago

edinburgh


"Port of Dover Twitter and Eurotunnel Twitter are reporting NO freight delays on the first day of Brexit.

"

Well it’s been a big success then - seriously most truck drivers wouldn’t pass a breathalyser test never mind have the right paperwork in their hands ??????

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By *atEvolutionCouple  over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION

Pet travel documents

Your pet must have one of the following documents when entering or returning to GB:

An EU 'pet passport' issued in the EU (or in GB if issued before 1 January 2021), or a 'pet passport' from another Part 1 listed third country the animal health certificate (AHC) issued in GB used to travel to the EU – which you can use to re-enter GB for up to 4 months after it was issued

a GB pet health certificate (for travel into GB only)

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/pet-travel-to-and-from-great-britain

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By *uliaChrisCouple  over a year ago

westerham

[Removed by poster at 01/01/21 11:39:55]

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By *uliaChrisCouple  over a year ago

westerham


"Mark the time.

Your right to travel freely across Europe and without limitations is gone.

Your right to reciprocal health care is gone.

You can no longer take your pets abroad.

Erasmus ends and your children’s rights to pursue reciprocal education arrangements is gone.

Your rights and your children’s rights to seek employment in Europe is gone.

You will face taxation and import duties on any goods you wish to purchase in Europe or take to Europe.

You no longer have any rights or legal protection in Europe - you are an alien and potentially an illegal migrant.

Welcome to your restricted small island life.

Lol

Absolutely none of these points affect me or my partner in the slightest.....am I supposed to be upset?

It’s probably already been answered but for example you can still take your pet abroad with a passport.

I’m all for a good bit of joshing between us but at least start off with some factual statements then add your own opinions. You can’t just make stuff up.

No you can’t. They are now invalid.

You claimed you can’t now take your pet abroad

From gov.uk this morning:

“When travelling to an EU country or Northern Ireland, your pet needs:

a microchip

a valid rabies vaccination

an animal health certificate unless you have a pet passport issued in an EU country or Northern Ireland

tapeworm treatment for dogs if you’re travelling directly to Finland, Ireland, Northern Ireland, Norway or Malta”

Project fear is dead. We are laughing at ridiculous scare stories, you damage your credibility by making stuff up.

No.....I wrote ‘they are invalid’. You cannot use a Pet Passport as they are invalid.

In your haste to categorise the correction, you’ve made a huge assumption that’s made you blind to the words I wrote."

Categorise the correction? What does that even mean?

OP says you can’t take your pets abroad, which is clearly rubbish. Very simple concept really.

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By *rench letterCouple  over a year ago

Chorley,


"Mark the time.

Your right to travel freely across Europe and without limitations is gone.

Your right to reciprocal health care is gone.

You can no longer take your pets abroad.

Erasmus ends and your children’s rights to pursue reciprocal education arrangements is gone.

Your rights and your children’s rights to seek employment in Europe is gone.

You will face taxation and import duties on any goods you wish to purchase in Europe or take to Europe.

You no longer have any rights or legal protection in Europe - you are an alien and potentially an illegal migrant.

Welcome to your restricted small island life.

Lol

Absolutely none of these points affect me or my partner in the slightest.....am I supposed to be upset?

It’s probably already been answered but for example you can still take your pet abroad with a passport.

I’m all for a good bit of joshing between us but at least start off with some factual statements then add your own opinions. You can’t just make stuff up.

No you can’t. They are now invalid.

You claimed you can’t now take your pet abroad

From gov.uk this morning:

“When travelling to an EU country or Northern Ireland, your pet needs:

a microchip

a valid rabies vaccination

an animal health certificate unless you have a pet passport issued in an EU country or Northern Ireland

tapeworm treatment for dogs if you’re travelling directly to Finland, Ireland, Northern Ireland, Norway or Malta”

Project fear is dead. We are laughing at ridiculous scare stories, you damage your credibility by making stuff up.

"

More red tape now than we used to have just to please brexiters.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Pet travel documents

Your pet must have one of the following documents when entering or returning to GB:

An EU 'pet passport' issued in the EU (or in GB if issued before 1 January 2021), or a 'pet passport' from another Part 1 listed third country the animal health certificate (AHC) issued in GB used to travel to the EU – which you can use to re-enter GB for up to 4 months after it was issued

a GB pet health certificate (for travel into GB only)

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/pet-travel-to-and-from-great-britain"

An AHS on its own will not allow travel in or out to NI or the EU. All departures have to be from a designated TPE, which they mostly were anyway.

You can no longer use a Pet Passport issued in Great Britain ie. England, Wales or Scotland. You can no longer take a dog, cat or ferret to NI without the necessary paperwork.

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool

[Removed by poster at 01/01/21 11:42:27]

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"Pet travel documents

Your pet must have one of the following documents when entering or returning to GB:

An EU 'pet passport' issued in the EU (or in GB if issued before 1 January 2021), or a 'pet passport' from another Part 1 listed third country the animal health certificate (AHC) issued in GB used to travel to the EU – which you can use to re-enter GB for up to 4 months after it was issued

a GB pet health certificate (for travel into GB only)

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/pet-travel-to-and-from-great-britain

An AHS on its own will not allow travel in or out to NI or the EU. All departures have to be from a designated TPE, which they mostly were anyway.

You can no longer use a Pet Passport issued in Great Britain ie. England, Wales or Scotland. You can no longer take a dog, cat or ferret to NI without the necessary paperwork. "

Ferrret

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By *olly_chromaticTV/TS  over a year ago

Stockport


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Gove is an odious slimy toad."

No need to be insulting to toads...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

35 people took ferrets on holiday to the EU in 2017......

The designated ports and airports for taking a pet, as opposed to using commercial or with assistance dogs, all are in England. There are no direct routes anywhere from anywhere else in GB.

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By *uliaChrisCouple  over a year ago

westerham


"35 people took ferrets on holiday to the EU in 2017......

The designated ports and airports for taking a pet, as opposed to using commercial or with assistance dogs, all are in England. There are no direct routes anywhere from anywhere else in GB.

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Glad we’re agreeing that the OP was talking rubbish

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I made no comment about the OP’s post.

I have neither agreed nor disagreed with anything.

Please don’t add me to your agenda. I have no interest in your squabbles.

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By *inn OP   Man  over a year ago

edinburgh

I’m thinking of getting chipped and an AHC the freedom of movement laws don’t apply to an AHC holder.

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