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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/28/asia/china-journalist-zhang-zhan-intl-hnk/index.htm

Are they suppressing the origins of the virus to serve their own version of it ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/28/asia/china-journalist-zhang-zhan-intl-hnk/index.htm

Are they suppressing the origins of the virus to serve their own version of it ?"

Link didn't work for me

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/28/asia/china-journalist-zhang-zhan-intl-hnk/index.htm

Are they suppressing the origins of the virus to serve their own version of it ?

Link didn't work for me "

https://www.foxnews.com/world/citizen-journalist-in-china-who-reported-on-covid-19-sentenced-to-4-years

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Odd cnn took it down.

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By *adetMan  over a year ago

South of Ipswich

It was nice of the CCP to ground internal flights to stop the spread in China but then allow international flights to continue, ensuring it spread to the rest of the world

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

You can criticise the CCP for their suppression of the media etc, but China, South Korea, Taiwan and other East Asian countries have been exemplary in their management of Covid 19.

When you compare them to the total disaster of plans put in place I Europe, and in particular the most right wing horrendous regimes (USA, UK, Brazil etc) then there is no comparison. If only those countries had acted in the interests of their people, rather than the few at the top continuing to roll in their profits, then many many lives would have been saved.

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By *adetMan  over a year ago

South of Ipswich

Aaand that's enough internet for me today

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"You can criticise the CCP for their suppression of the media etc, but China, South Korea, Taiwan and other East Asian countries have been exemplary in their management of Covid 19.

When you compare them to the total disaster of plans put in place I Europe, and in particular the most right wing horrendous regimes (USA, UK, Brazil etc) then there is no comparison. If only those countries had acted in the interests of their people, rather than the few at the top continuing to roll in their profits, then many many lives would have been saved."

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/dhs-report-china-hid-coronavirus-severity-order-hoard-medical-supplies-n1199221

Yes CCP are your Savior.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"You can criticise the CCP for their suppression of the media etc, but China, South Korea, Taiwan and other East Asian countries have been exemplary in their management of Covid 19.

When you compare them to the total disaster of plans put in place I Europe, and in particular the most right wing horrendous regimes (USA, UK, Brazil etc) then there is no comparison. If only those countries had acted in the interests of their people, rather than the few at the top continuing to roll in their profits, then many many lives would have been saved.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/dhs-report-china-hid-coronavirus-severity-order-hoard-medical-supplies-n1199221

Yes CCP are your Savior. "

We what they are trying to do, they are trying to change narrative, but 2020 wouldn’t have happened if they were more open and honest about the situation. Instead of lying and suppressing the truth to save face.

In the past four years where have America been? Tearing itself apart, now China and Russia have got the upper hand.

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool

https://m.dw.com/en/saudi-arabia-jails-womens-rights-activist-loujain-al-hathloul/a-56071860

Just as well its just the Chinese who trample all over human rights.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"You can criticise the CCP for their suppression of the media etc, but China, South Korea, Taiwan and other East Asian countries have been exemplary in their management of Covid 19.

When you compare them to the total disaster of plans put in place I Europe, and in particular the most right wing horrendous regimes (USA, UK, Brazil etc) then there is no comparison. If only those countries had acted in the interests of their people, rather than the few at the top continuing to roll in their profits, then many many lives would have been saved.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/dhs-report-china-hid-coronavirus-severity-order-hoard-medical-supplies-n1199221

Yes CCP are your Savior.

We what they are trying to do, they are trying to change narrative, but 2020 wouldn’t have happened if they were more open and honest about the situation. Instead of lying and suppressing the truth to save face.

In the past four years where have America been? Tearing itself apart, now China and Russia have got the upper hand. "

We are tired of being world police let china take overr hence the past 4 years of trying to get the world to wake up to the threat.

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"You can criticise the CCP for their suppression of the media etc, but China, South Korea, Taiwan and other East Asian countries have been exemplary in their management of Covid 19.

When you compare them to the total disaster of plans put in place I Europe, and in particular the most right wing horrendous regimes (USA, UK, Brazil etc) then there is no comparison. If only those countries had acted in the interests of their people, rather than the few at the top continuing to roll in their profits, then many many lives would have been saved.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/dhs-report-china-hid-coronavirus-severity-order-hoard-medical-supplies-n1199221

Yes CCP are your Savior.

We what they are trying to do, they are trying to change narrative, but 2020 wouldn’t have happened if they were more open and honest about the situation. Instead of lying and suppressing the truth to save face.

In the past four years where have America been? Tearing itself apart, now China and Russia have got the upper hand.

We are tired of being world police let china take overr hence the past 4 years of trying to get the world to wake up to the threat. "

Yep you have done a bang up job in the middle east .

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"You can criticise the CCP for their suppression of the media etc, but China, South Korea, Taiwan and other East Asian countries have been exemplary in their management of Covid 19.

When you compare them to the total disaster of plans put in place I Europe, and in particular the most right wing horrendous regimes (USA, UK, Brazil etc) then there is no comparison. If only those countries had acted in the interests of their people, rather than the few at the top continuing to roll in their profits, then many many lives would have been saved.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/dhs-report-china-hid-coronavirus-severity-order-hoard-medical-supplies-n1199221

Yes CCP are your Savior.

We what they are trying to do, they are trying to change narrative, but 2020 wouldn’t have happened if they were more open and honest about the situation. Instead of lying and suppressing the truth to save face.

In the past four years where have America been? Tearing itself apart, now China and Russia have got the upper hand.

We are tired of being world police let china take overr hence the past 4 years of trying to get the world to wake up to the threat.

Yep you have done a bang up job in the middle east ."

Middle east too no sense in commiting troops anymore when we en energy independent since we back out of the paris climate accords.

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"You can criticise the CCP for their suppression of the media etc, but China, South Korea, Taiwan and other East Asian countries have been exemplary in their management of Covid 19.

When you compare them to the total disaster of plans put in place I Europe, and in particular the most right wing horrendous regimes (USA, UK, Brazil etc) then there is no comparison. If only those countries had acted in the interests of their people, rather than the few at the top continuing to roll in their profits, then many many lives would have been saved.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/dhs-report-china-hid-coronavirus-severity-order-hoard-medical-supplies-n1199221

Yes CCP are your Savior.

We what they are trying to do, they are trying to change narrative, but 2020 wouldn’t have happened if they were more open and honest about the situation. Instead of lying and suppressing the truth to save face.

In the past four years where have America been? Tearing itself apart, now China and Russia have got the upper hand.

We are tired of being world police let china take overr hence the past 4 years of trying to get the world to wake up to the threat. "

By "world police" do you mean the invasions of middle Eastern countries?

Because the rest of the world, apart from Israel, would also like you to stop that.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"You can criticise the CCP for their suppression of the media etc, but China, South Korea, Taiwan and other East Asian countries have been exemplary in their management of Covid 19.

When you compare them to the total disaster of plans put in place I Europe, and in particular the most right wing horrendous regimes (USA, UK, Brazil etc) then there is no comparison. If only those countries had acted in the interests of their people, rather than the few at the top continuing to roll in their profits, then many many lives would have been saved.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/dhs-report-china-hid-coronavirus-severity-order-hoard-medical-supplies-n1199221

Yes CCP are your Savior.

We what they are trying to do, they are trying to change narrative, but 2020 wouldn’t have happened if they were more open and honest about the situation. Instead of lying and suppressing the truth to save face.

In the past four years where have America been? Tearing itself apart, now China and Russia have got the upper hand.

We are tired of being world police let china take overr hence the past 4 years of trying to get the world to wake up to the threat.

By "world police" do you mean the invasions of middle Eastern countries?

Because the rest of the world, apart from Israel, would also like you to stop that. "

Yup agreed protect our own.

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By *dsindyTV/TS  over a year ago

East Lancashire

China bash again. From usual suspects again. Shortly to be followed on about militarization again.

Getting all deja vu.........again.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"China bash again. From usual suspects again. Shortly to be followed on about militarization again.

Getting all deja vu.........again."

Nope cutbacks be fantastic pull back from every country. Protect our borders that is it. Let China Russia and Iran have at it. Why worry anymore it will the perfect solution.

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By *obka3Couple  over a year ago

bournemouth


"China bash again. From usual suspects again. Shortly to be followed on about militarization again.

Getting all deja vu.........again."

So you are happy to see the appalling human rights in China, their cyber attacks( alleged of course) their treatment of HK etc etc.

Remember people said hitler was only repairing Germany and turned a blind eye, when they opened them it was very nearly too late.

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"China bash again. From usual suspects again. Shortly to be followed on about militarization again.

Getting all deja vu.........again.

So you are happy to see the appalling human rights in China, their cyber attacks( alleged of course) their treatment of HK etc etc.

Remember people said hitler was only repairing Germany and turned a blind eye, when they opened them it was very nearly too late."

And no where else breaches human rights?

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By *obka3Couple  over a year ago

bournemouth


"China bash again. From usual suspects again. Shortly to be followed on about militarization again.

Getting all deja vu.........again.

So you are happy to see the appalling human rights in China, their cyber attacks( alleged of course) their treatment of HK etc etc.

Remember people said hitler was only repairing Germany and turned a blind eye, when they opened them it was very nearly too late.

And no where else breaches human rights?"

Whataboutery again.

We are discussing china, if you want to start a thread on other human rights issues then do so by all means

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By *wisted999Man  over a year ago

North Bucks

Let’s not forget the poor Uyghurs. Who are being subject to tyranny on an industrial scale not seen since the Second World War.

And the world sticks it’s fingers in its ears.

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"China bash again. From usual suspects again. Shortly to be followed on about militarization again.

Getting all deja vu.........again.

So you are happy to see the appalling human rights in China, their cyber attacks( alleged of course) their treatment of HK etc etc.

Remember people said hitler was only repairing Germany and turned a blind eye, when they opened them it was very nearly too late.

And no where else breaches human rights?

Whataboutery again.

We are discussing china, if you want to start a thread on other human rights issues then do so by all means"

It's whatabouttery when it suits you.

Its called hypocrisy.

Last time I looked isreal where bulldozing people out of their homes and shooting people on the street.

Here is a thought.. if you wanna take a stand against horrible regimes doing horrible things.. try applying it to everyone...not just who we decide are the enemy.

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By *wisted999Man  over a year ago

North Bucks


"China bash again. From usual suspects again. Shortly to be followed on about militarization again.

Getting all deja vu.........again.

So you are happy to see the appalling human rights in China, their cyber attacks( alleged of course) their treatment of HK etc etc.

Remember people said hitler was only repairing Germany and turned a blind eye, when they opened them it was very nearly too late.

And no where else breaches human rights?

Whataboutery again.

We are discussing china, if you want to start a thread on other human rights issues then do so by all means

It's whatabouttery when it suits you.

Its called hypocrisy.

Last time I looked isreal where bulldozing people out of their homes and shooting people on the street.

Here is a thought.. if you wanna take a stand against horrible regimes doing horrible things.. try applying it to everyone...not just who we decide are the enemy."

Layers of whataboutery.

The topic is China Lionel. So we need to now caveat every thread with what regimes we express outrage over first now?

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"China bash again. From usual suspects again. Shortly to be followed on about militarization again.

Getting all deja vu.........again.

So you are happy to see the appalling human rights in China, their cyber attacks( alleged of course) their treatment of HK etc etc.

Remember people said hitler was only repairing Germany and turned a blind eye, when they opened them it was very nearly too late.

And no where else breaches human rights?

Whataboutery again.

We are discussing china, if you want to start a thread on other human rights issues then do so by all means

It's whatabouttery when it suits you.

Its called hypocrisy.

Last time I looked isreal where bulldozing people out of their homes and shooting people on the street.

Here is a thought.. if you wanna take a stand against horrible regimes doing horrible things.. try applying it to everyone...not just who we decide are the enemy.

Layers of whataboutery.

The topic is China Lionel. So we need to now caveat every thread with what regimes we express outrage over first now? "

No I just find it kinda ironic that we get annoyed at some countries whilst turn a blind eye to others..like I said its whataboutery when it suits you

But yeah..be my guest.

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By *obka3Couple  over a year ago

bournemouth

Start a topic about Israel then.

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By *dsindyTV/TS  over a year ago

East Lancashire

Yeah yeah yeah.....China, human rights abuse, exploitation...yadda yadda yadda.

What about Nigeria? What about Saudi Arabia? What about The Philippines? What about these and other countries?

People come on here and go all mental on China's abuses but say nothing of others.

Condemn ALL human rights abuses (as I do), otherwise you sound like a hypocritical apologist for the right wing China bashers out there.

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By *wisted999Man  over a year ago

North Bucks


"China bash again. From usual suspects again. Shortly to be followed on about militarization again.

Getting all deja vu.........again.

So you are happy to see the appalling human rights in China, their cyber attacks( alleged of course) their treatment of HK etc etc.

Remember people said hitler was only repairing Germany and turned a blind eye, when they opened them it was very nearly too late.

And no where else breaches human rights?

Whataboutery again.

We are discussing china, if you want to start a thread on other human rights issues then do so by all means

It's whatabouttery when it suits you.

Its called hypocrisy.

Last time I looked isreal where bulldozing people out of their homes and shooting people on the street.

Here is a thought.. if you wanna take a stand against horrible regimes doing horrible things.. try applying it to everyone...not just who we decide are the enemy.

Layers of whataboutery.

The topic is China Lionel. So we need to now caveat every thread with what regimes we express outrage over first now?

No I just find it kinda ironic that we get annoyed at some countries whilst turn a blind eye to others..like I said its whataboutery when it suits you

But yeah..be my guest."

As has been explained before why not start a thread about those countries when the subjects arise?

I would certainly pile in on something like that.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"China bash again. From usual suspects again. Shortly to be followed on about militarization again.

Getting all deja vu.........again.

So you are happy to see the appalling human rights in China, their cyber attacks( alleged of course) their treatment of HK etc etc.

Remember people said hitler was only repairing Germany and turned a blind eye, when they opened them it was very nearly too late.

And no where else breaches human rights?

Whataboutery again.

We are discussing china, if you want to start a thread on other human rights issues then do so by all means

It's whatabouttery when it suits you.

Its called hypocrisy.

Last time I looked isreal where bulldozing people out of their homes and shooting people on the street.

Here is a thought.. if you wanna take a stand against horrible regimes doing horrible things.. try applying it to everyone...not just who we decide are the enemy.

Layers of whataboutery.

The topic is China Lionel. So we need to now caveat every thread with what regimes we express outrage over first now?

No I just find it kinda ironic that we get annoyed at some countries whilst turn a blind eye to others..like I said its whataboutery when it suits you

But yeah..be my guest.

As has been explained before why not start a thread about those countries when the subjects arise?

I would certainly pile in on something like that.

"

Me too

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"Start a topic about Israel then."

Funny enough there is not a huge about it here ..in the mainstream media.

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By *ackal1Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"Yeah yeah yeah.....China, human rights abuse, exploitation...yadda yadda yadda.

What about Nigeria? What about Saudi Arabia? What about The Philippines? What about these and other countries?

People come on here and go all mental on China's abuses but say nothing of others.

Condemn ALL human rights abuses (as I do), otherwise you sound like a hypocritical apologist for the right wing China bashers out there."

Just my opinion but I think we are scared of China so like to raise it whilst trying not to offend.

We as a nation don’t stand up to abuse. Look at how many goods we buy from China.

Nigeria would be the richest country in Africa if it wasn’t for corruption.

The greed of the few means bad education and poverty for most and easy hunting grounds to recruit illiterate religious fighters.

Saudi keep our banks liquid and our arms sales up so we won’t say boo to them.

I think we are too weak these days to shout too loud.

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