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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Keith Starmer acting like a fool.. bemoans everything the Government do . He needs to support in a Crisis..
Lost all credibility ..
Another Bufoon "
That's not how being in opposition works.
It is honestly the easiest job on the planet. Get paid well for being a critic with no responsibility.
That said. BoJoke and co are royally fucking things up.
That said. It would be worse if the Corbyn/Abbott axis of stupidity were in charge.
That said.......yeah I'm out of defence for politicians. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Yes .. that fool needs to support in a time of crisis..
He is looking like a prat now"
Should he support the £20 billion Boris handed to his mates for sub par PPE?
Should he also support the 7th highest death rate in the world?
How bad do things need to get before he's allowed to question the government, (which is after all the opposition's duty to do so)? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"All he does is moan but do no different..
Another failure at the next election ..."
Are you joking he literally told him what to do during PMQs and Boris replied like a child crying "he wants to cancel Xmas" The Same happened with the last lock down.
I think you need to start actually looking at Boris and his abject failure before putting up crap like this. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Keith Starmer will fall to the left.. he is the fall guy to these lefties "
I hope for your own sake you are a troll, If not unlucky it must be hard being you. |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"Keith Starmer will fall to the left.. he is the fall guy to these lefties
I hope for your own sake you are a troll, If not unlucky it must be hard being you."
The unions.. Militant.. Momentum .. they will take back control.. Keith Starmer just a stooge for now and Corbyn will be reincarnated
Mark my words |
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"Keith Starmer will fall to the left.. he is the fall guy to these lefties
I hope for your own sake you are a troll, If not unlucky it must be hard being you.
The unions.. Militant.. Momentum .. they will take back control.. Keith Starmer just a stooge for now and Corbyn will be reincarnated
Mark my words "
I dont think he is dead Thomas. |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"Keith Starmer will fall to the left.. he is the fall guy to these lefties
I hope for your own sake you are a troll, If not unlucky it must be hard being you.
The unions.. Militant.. Momentum .. they will take back control.. Keith Starmer just a stooge for now and Corbyn will be reincarnated
Mark my words
I dont think he is dead Thomas. "
Politically he is .. for now..
But like all zombies ..
He will rise |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Keith Starmer will fall to the left.. he is the fall guy to these lefties
I hope for your own sake you are a troll, If not unlucky it must be hard being you.
The unions.. Militant.. Momentum .. they will take back control.. Keith Starmer just a stooge for now and Corbyn will be reincarnated
Mark my words "
Just a bunch of random unrelated words.
But I'll mark them and see what happens. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"Keith Starmer acting like a fool.. bemoans everything the Government do . He needs to support in a Crisis..
Lost all credibility ..
Another Bufoon "
You might want to go back and read the actual exchange at pmq’s on Wednesday.... because it’s johnson’s reply which was the dickish one
It’s Tory mps that johnson was pandering to.... it’s actually been Tory mp’s that have been voting against legislation |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"nd still Boris leads the polls.. "
Actually he's slumping in the polls.
But I agree that Starmer is useless. He's basically a Tory.
I assume you mean keir Starmer though? |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"I cant see him lasting until the next election and as for his cabinet where they all disappeared to?"
His cabinet will all be picked off or defect ..
Momentum and Militant will rule his nest to be fair |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"nd still Boris leads the polls..
This weeks field data will change that
And will fizzle out soon enough
Yes
The labours will fizzle out..keith starmer has descended into a joke..."
You are wanting to pin it on starmer.... he actually asked a reasonable question at pmq’s, have you actually read the answer?
Again... labour have been voting WITH the government on the tier legislation, even though they think the restrictions should be tougher and should have come in earlier ... it’s been conservative mp’s that have been voting against
So again Tom... have you actually bothered to read the exchange at Wednesdays PMQ’s |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"It's not all about the pointless PMQs...that is just peacocks fluffing feathers or in many cases fluffing their lines"
Well you are actually criticising Starmer for his response..... his response was to johnson reply to his question at PMQ’s on Wednesday !
So again..... let’s ask the question...
Did you bother to watch PMQ’s on Wednesday? If the answer is no, then just be honest rather than making yourself look more and more like an idiot.... |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"Yes...
And like a puff of a wind Stammer will be gone before the next election.. "
Then what part of starmer’s original question did you object to..... bearing in mind like I say, labour have actually voted WITH the government on all Covid tier legislation!
Look at the voting in the last round of Covid tier legislation in England.... 71 conservative mps did not vote with the government! 55 voted against, 16 abstained
Let’s not be blind.... how did your mp vote Tom, |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"Yes...
And like a puff of a wind Stammer will be gone before the next election..
Then what part of starmer’s original question did you object to..... bearing in mind like I say, labour have actually voted WITH the government on all Covid tier legislation!
Look at the voting in the last round of Covid tier legislation in England.... 71 conservative mps did not vote with the government! 55 voted against, 16 abstained
Let’s not be blind.... how did your mp vote Tom, "
Cleverley the clown ? He was too busy defending his speeding fine |
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"Yes...
And like a puff of a wind Stammer will be gone before the next election..
Then what part of starmer’s original question did you object to..... bearing in mind like I say, labour have actually voted WITH the government on all Covid tier legislation!
Look at the voting in the last round of Covid tier legislation in England.... 71 conservative mps did not vote with the government! 55 voted against, 16 abstained
Let’s not be blind.... how did your mp vote Tom, "
How many Labour MPs walked through the aye lobby WITH the government ? |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"All he does is moan but do no different..
Another failure at the next election ..." Jesus Christ will not appear to run the country so stop having a go at party leaders they did not cause covid this is not political.Starmer was exellent today |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"Yes...
And like a puff of a wind Stammer will be gone before the next election..
Then what part of starmer’s original question did you object to..... bearing in mind like I say, labour have actually voted WITH the government on all Covid tier legislation!
Look at the voting in the last round of Covid tier legislation in England.... 71 conservative mps did not vote with the government! 55 voted against, 16 abstained
Let’s not be blind.... how did your mp vote Tom,
Cleverley the clown ? He was too busy defending his speeding fine"
Then since he is a member of the government, maybe you ought to go to your local mp surgery next time.... after all.. would he not have an insight on policy!
All starmer has done is call for lockdown 2 before the government did a u turn and brought in lockdown 2, and say the government needed to relook at the relaxation at Xmas, before the government did a u turn on the Xmas relaxations.
And yet for all the reservations.. the Labour Party has not as a whole, voted against any of the government Covid restrictions... not once
Is this why you hate him? Because he actually looked at the actual medical advice and came to the conclusions before the conservative administration did |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"Yes...
And like a puff of a wind Stammer will be gone before the next election..
Then what part of starmer’s original question did you object to..... bearing in mind like I say, labour have actually voted WITH the government on all Covid tier legislation!
Look at the voting in the last round of Covid tier legislation in England.... 71 conservative mps did not vote with the government! 55 voted against, 16 abstained
Let’s not be blind.... how did your mp vote Tom,
How many Labour MPs walked through the aye lobby WITH the government ?"
They abstained on the grounds the legislation should have been tougher.... is that what those Tory mps who voted against did! Because if that was your reading.. we were watching 2 different debates |
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"Yes...
And like a puff of a wind Stammer will be gone before the next election..
Then what part of starmer’s original question did you object to..... bearing in mind like I say, labour have actually voted WITH the government on all Covid tier legislation!
Look at the voting in the last round of Covid tier legislation in England.... 71 conservative mps did not vote with the government! 55 voted against, 16 abstained
Let’s not be blind.... how did your mp vote Tom,
How many Labour MPs walked through the aye lobby WITH the government ?
They abstained on the grounds the legislation should have been tougher.... is that what those Tory mps who voted against did! Because if that was your reading.. we were watching 2 different debates "
Abstaining isn’t voting WITH the government.
My Labour MP defied the Starmer sit on the fence order, and although I didn’t vote for them at the GE, I have more respect for them now than I did before - abstaining isn’t being an opposition- its lazy and a weak cop out to offering a credible alternative.
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"Yes...
And like a puff of a wind Stammer will be gone before the next election..
Then what part of starmer’s original question did you object to..... bearing in mind like I say, labour have actually voted WITH the government on all Covid tier legislation!
Look at the voting in the last round of Covid tier legislation in England.... 71 conservative mps did not vote with the government! 55 voted against, 16 abstained
Let’s not be blind.... how did your mp vote Tom,
How many Labour MPs walked through the aye lobby WITH the government ?
They abstained on the grounds the legislation should have been tougher.... is that what those Tory mps who voted against did! Because if that was your reading.. we were watching 2 different debates
Abstaining isn’t voting WITH the government.
My Labour MP defied the Starmer sit on the fence order, and although I didn’t vote for them at the GE, I have more respect for them now than I did before - abstaining isn’t being an opposition- its lazy and a weak cop out to offering a credible alternative.
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... I’m also not sure your reading of why they abstained is correct |
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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago
Manchester |
Stalin once ripped all the feathers off a live chicken as a lesson to his followers. He then put the chicken on the floor a few steps away from him. The chicken was bloodied and hurting terribly, however when the reached into his pocket and threw some wheat grains to the chicken it started to follow him around the room.
He said to his followers “this is how easy it is to govern stupid people. They will follow you no matter how much pain you cause them, as long as you throw them a worthless treat every now and again.
For the last 60 years despite who’s been in charge 99% of us have just worked and accepted our lot. A few have done well I agree.
In the 80s at the time of the financial Big Bang huge fortunes were made in London. Did any of you notice the benefit? With me tech revolution again a few made fortunes, Did our NHS suddenly have everything it needed. Did our society benefit as a whole? With our hard work we’ve slowly become a little better off but it’s slow and hard and people are still homeless.
Without being loyal to your colours or party do you suspect we are mostly that chicken?
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"Stalin once ripped all the feathers off a live chicken as a lesson to his followers. He then put the chicken on the floor a few steps away from him. The chicken was bloodied and hurting terribly, however when the reached into his pocket and threw some wheat grains to the chicken it started to follow him around the room.
He said to his followers “this is how easy it is to govern stupid people. They will follow you no matter how much pain you cause them, as long as you throw them a worthless treat every now and again.
For the last 60 years despite who’s been in charge 99% of us have just worked and accepted our lot. A few have done well I agree.
In the 80s at the time of the financial Big Bang huge fortunes were made in London. Did any of you notice the benefit? With me tech revolution again a few made fortunes, Did our NHS suddenly have everything it needed. Did our society benefit as a whole? With our hard work we’ve slowly become a little better off but it’s slow and hard and people are still homeless.
Without being loyal to your colours or party do you suspect we are mostly that chicken?
" I like that Stalin story it reminds me of the eu the few treats are roaming charges,air fare refunds etc and they make the companies pay for them which in turn is passed on to the customers it doesnt cost the eu a penny.Thats how easy it is to govern stupid people. |
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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago
Manchester |
"Stalin once ripped all the feathers off a live chicken as a lesson to his followers. He then put the chicken on the floor a few steps away from him. The chicken was bloodied and hurting terribly, however when the reached into his pocket and threw some wheat grains to the chicken it started to follow him around the room.
He said to his followers “this is how easy it is to govern stupid people. They will follow you no matter how much pain you cause them, as long as you throw them a worthless treat every now and again.
For the last 60 years despite who’s been in charge 99% of us have just worked and accepted our lot. A few have done well I agree.
In the 80s at the time of the financial Big Bang huge fortunes were made in London. Did any of you notice the benefit? With me tech revolution again a few made fortunes, Did our NHS suddenly have everything it needed. Did our society benefit as a whole? With our hard work we’ve slowly become a little better off but it’s slow and hard and people are still homeless.
Without being loyal to your colours or party do you suspect we are mostly that chicken?
I like that Stalin story it reminds me of the eu the few treats are roaming charges,air fare refunds etc and they make the companies pay for them which in turn is passed on to the customers it doesnt cost the eu a penny.Thats how easy it is to govern stupid people."
Cleaner water , beaches, air, food standards, easy trading, cheaper trading, security, etc etc ., but that’s not my point.
So back to my point on the U.K. governments do you think we are really being lead along like little kids ?
I can’t see any major improvements in the working man’s (women’s) life chances, The main parties always have a planned agenda that doesn’t ever seem to say what’s going to help us all.
Power corrupts, absolute power crorrupts absolutely. |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"Stalin once ripped all the feathers off a live chicken as a lesson to his followers. He then put the chicken on the floor a few steps away from him. The chicken was bloodied and hurting terribly, however when the reached into his pocket and threw some wheat grains to the chicken it started to follow him around the room.
He said to his followers “this is how easy it is to govern stupid people. They will follow you no matter how much pain you cause them, as long as you throw them a worthless treat every now and again.
For the last 60 years despite who’s been in charge 99% of us have just worked and accepted our lot. A few have done well I agree.
In the 80s at the time of the financial Big Bang huge fortunes were made in London. Did any of you notice the benefit? With me tech revolution again a few made fortunes, Did our NHS suddenly have everything it needed. Did our society benefit as a whole? With our hard work we’ve slowly become a little better off but it’s slow and hard and people are still homeless.
Without being loyal to your colours or party do you suspect we are mostly that chicken?
I like that Stalin story it reminds me of the eu the few treats are roaming charges,air fare refunds etc and they make the companies pay for them which in turn is passed on to the customers it doesnt cost the eu a penny.Thats how easy it is to govern stupid people.
Cleaner water , beaches, air, food standards, easy trading, cheaper trading, security, etc etc ., but that’s not my point.
So back to my point on the U.K. governments do you think we are really being lead along like little kids ?
I can’t see any major improvements in the working man’s (women’s) life chances, The main parties always have a planned agenda that doesn’t ever seem to say what’s going to help us all.
Power corrupts, absolute power crorrupts absolutely. " I see uk governments on par if not better than a lot of countries and we have the chance to change them every 5 years unlike stalin or the eu. |
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"Yes...
And like a puff of a wind Stammer will be gone before the next election..
Then what part of starmer’s original question did you object to..... bearing in mind like I say, labour have actually voted WITH the government on all Covid tier legislation!
Look at the voting in the last round of Covid tier legislation in England.... 71 conservative mps did not vote with the government! 55 voted against, 16 abstained
Let’s not be blind.... how did your mp vote Tom,
How many Labour MPs walked through the aye lobby WITH the government ?
They abstained on the grounds the legislation should have been tougher.... is that what those Tory mps who voted against did! Because if that was your reading.. we were watching 2 different debates
Abstaining isn’t voting WITH the government.
My Labour MP defied the Starmer sit on the fence order, and although I didn’t vote for them at the GE, I have more respect for them now than I did before - abstaining isn’t being an opposition- its lazy and a weak cop out to offering a credible alternative.
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Agreed
I dont see the point of abstaining.
You either agree or disagree
Didnt they abstain on that human rights bill? |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"Stalin once ripped all the feathers off a live chicken as a lesson to his followers. He then put the chicken on the floor a few steps away from him. The chicken was bloodied and hurting terribly, however when the reached into his pocket and threw some wheat grains to the chicken it started to follow him around the room.
He said to his followers “this is how easy it is to govern stupid people. They will follow you no matter how much pain you cause them, as long as you throw them a worthless treat every now and again.
For the last 60 years despite who’s been in charge 99% of us have just worked and accepted our lot. A few have done well I agree.
In the 80s at the time of the financial Big Bang huge fortunes were made in London. Did any of you notice the benefit? With me tech revolution again a few made fortunes, Did our NHS suddenly have everything it needed. Did our society benefit as a whole? With our hard work we’ve slowly become a little better off but it’s slow and hard and people are still homeless.
Without being loyal to your colours or party do you suspect we are mostly that chicken?
" Yes we have come a long way since the 80's |
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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago
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"Stalin once ripped all the feathers off a live chicken as a lesson to his followers. He then put the chicken on the floor a few steps away from him. The chicken was bloodied and hurting terribly, however when the reached into his pocket and threw some wheat grains to the chicken it started to follow him around the room.
He said to his followers “this is how easy it is to govern stupid people. They will follow you no matter how much pain you cause them, as long as you throw them a worthless treat every now and again.
For the last 60 years despite who’s been in charge 99% of us have just worked and accepted our lot. A few have done well I agree.
In the 80s at the time of the financial Big Bang huge fortunes were made in London. Did any of you notice the benefit? With me tech revolution again a few made fortunes, Did our NHS suddenly have everything it needed. Did our society benefit as a whole? With our hard work we’ve slowly become a little better off but it’s slow and hard and people are still homeless.
Without being loyal to your colours or party do you suspect we are mostly that chicken?
Yes we have come a long way since the 80's"
In what way ? |
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"Stalin once ripped all the feathers off a live chicken as a lesson to his followers. He then put the chicken on the floor a few steps away from him. The chicken was bloodied and hurting terribly, however when the reached into his pocket and threw some wheat grains to the chicken it started to follow him around the room.
He said to his followers “this is how easy it is to govern stupid people. They will follow you no matter how much pain you cause them, as long as you throw them a worthless treat every now and again.
For the last 60 years despite who’s been in charge 99% of us have just worked and accepted our lot. A few have done well I agree.
In the 80s at the time of the financial Big Bang huge fortunes were made in London. Did any of you notice the benefit? With me tech revolution again a few made fortunes, Did our NHS suddenly have everything it needed. Did our society benefit as a whole? With our hard work we’ve slowly become a little better off but it’s slow and hard and people are still homeless.
Without being loyal to your colours or party do you suspect we are mostly that chicken?
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It’s a made up story , first told 30 years after Stalin’s death by an anti Stalinist writer called Chingiz Aitmatove . The first ever reference to this story was published in the 1980s , Aitmatove wrote mainly in an elliptical allegorical ways to attack Stalinist/ Soviet supporters .. In layman’s terms it didn’t happen just a legend like St George or the fairies down the bottom of the garden
Indeed on its own merit of being nothing but a made up story , is proof how easy it is to rule stupid people |
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"Stalin once ripped all the feathers off a live chicken as a lesson to his followers. He then put the chicken on the floor a few steps away from him. The chicken was bloodied and hurting terribly, however when the reached into his pocket and threw some wheat grains to the chicken it started to follow him around the room.
He said to his followers “this is how easy it is to govern stupid people. They will follow you no matter how much pain you cause them, as long as you throw them a worthless treat every now and again.
For the last 60 years despite who’s been in charge 99% of us have just worked and accepted our lot. A few have done well I agree.
In the 80s at the time of the financial Big Bang huge fortunes were made in London. Did any of you notice the benefit? With me tech revolution again a few made fortunes, Did our NHS suddenly have everything it needed. Did our society benefit as a whole? With our hard work we’ve slowly become a little better off but it’s slow and hard and people are still homeless.
Without being loyal to your colours or party do you suspect we are mostly that chicken?
It’s a made up story , first told 30 years after Stalin’s death by an anti Stalinist writer called Chingiz Aitmatove . The first ever reference to this story was published in the 1980s , Aitmatove wrote mainly in an elliptical allegorical ways to attack Stalinist/ Soviet supporters .. In layman’s terms it didn’t happen just a legend like St George or the fairies down the bottom of the garden
Indeed on its own merit of being nothing but a made up story , is proof how easy it is to rule stupid people "
I was going to point this out too ^
End of the day, KS is the leader of the opposition. So he should fucking OPPOSE and not just arbitrarily agree with everything the government decides to do. The man has announced (several times now) that Labour will support whatever actions the government decides to take.....before those actions have even been announced. That’s not how opposition is supposed to work.
And my biggest worry is the vacuum left behind. Who’s going to fill it? Expect upset at local elections come May. |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"Stalin once ripped all the feathers off a live chicken as a lesson to his followers. He then put the chicken on the floor a few steps away from him. The chicken was bloodied and hurting terribly, however when the reached into his pocket and threw some wheat grains to the chicken it started to follow him around the room.
He said to his followers “this is how easy it is to govern stupid people. They will follow you no matter how much pain you cause them, as long as you throw them a worthless treat every now and again.
For the last 60 years despite who’s been in charge 99% of us have just worked and accepted our lot. A few have done well I agree.
In the 80s at the time of the financial Big Bang huge fortunes were made in London. Did any of you notice the benefit? With me tech revolution again a few made fortunes, Did our NHS suddenly have everything it needed. Did our society benefit as a whole? With our hard work we’ve slowly become a little better off but it’s slow and hard and people are still homeless.
Without being loyal to your colours or party do you suspect we are mostly that chicken?
It’s a made up story , first told 30 years after Stalin’s death by an anti Stalinist writer called Chingiz Aitmatove . The first ever reference to this story was published in the 1980s , Aitmatove wrote mainly in an elliptical allegorical ways to attack Stalinist/ Soviet supporters .. In layman’s terms it didn’t happen just a legend like St George or the fairies down the bottom of the garden
Indeed on its own merit of being nothing but a made up story , is proof how easy it is to rule stupid people " Made up or not its still a good analogy for the eu. |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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I was fortunate to live through the 80s. I made my fortune then as did many others. Has it changed anything for the country as a whole no? Has it cushioned me? Totally.. I remember mortgage rates at 13%. It did not affect me as the following mini recessions never affected me and Brexit will not affect me. Houses cost peanuts in comparison to today. Most of my colleagues and friends invested in domestic property portfolios for rental income. It was so easy. Did I work hard. Hell yes. I worked 12 hours a day and many many weekends. Was it worth it? I enjoyed the rollercoaster. Can people do what I did ? Hell yes but it's much harder.
Do I work hard now. No. I just clown around on here...
I have seen politicians come and go. Everyone gets too carried away with Starmer in PMQs. He is trained as a barrister/solicitor.. I would be amazed if couldn't perform but opposing and leading are two different things. The left will run with him until he is no longer useful.
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"Stalin once ripped all the feathers off a live chicken as a lesson to his followers. He then put the chicken on the floor a few steps away from him. The chicken was bloodied and hurting terribly, however when the reached into his pocket and threw some wheat grains to the chicken it started to follow him around the room.
He said to his followers “this is how easy it is to govern stupid people. They will follow you no matter how much pain you cause them, as long as you throw them a worthless treat every now and again.
For the last 60 years despite who’s been in charge 99% of us have just worked and accepted our lot. A few have done well I agree.
In the 80s at the time of the financial Big Bang huge fortunes were made in London. Did any of you notice the benefit? With me tech revolution again a few made fortunes, Did our NHS suddenly have everything it needed. Did our society benefit as a whole? With our hard work we’ve slowly become a little better off but it’s slow and hard and people are still homeless.
Without being loyal to your colours or party do you suspect we are mostly that chicken?
It’s a made up story , first told 30 years after Stalin’s death by an anti Stalinist writer called Chingiz Aitmatove . The first ever reference to this story was published in the 1980s , Aitmatove wrote mainly in an elliptical allegorical ways to attack Stalinist/ Soviet supporters .. In layman’s terms it didn’t happen just a legend like St George or the fairies down the bottom of the garden
Indeed on its own merit of being nothing but a made up story , is proof how easy it is to rule stupid people Made up or not its still a good analogy for the eu."
Not when it’s made up it’s not a good analogy . In fact one could argue that by using a known made up analogy to draw a comparison on the incompetence of the EU . Then there is no incompetence within the EU and is all made up as the said analogy is also fictitious . One must use a “ true analogy if one wants portray something as Factual ..
In layman’s terms “ Have another go Einstein “ |
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