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Why do so many other countries want to leave the EU?
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From 2019, maybe worse now with the EU delay in vaccine approval:
“The Swedish eurosceptic party Sweden Democrats (SW) has issued a dire warning to Brussels, suggesting the Scandinavian country could very well leave the bloc unless eurocrats accept to make substantial changes to its core institutions. A shocking poll in 2017 suggested more than half of The Netherlands would prefer to quit the EU.
Ms Fordwich continued: "There were rumours of Nexit, the Dutch leaving and The Netherlands, and Swexit after the right swing in Sweden.
"That’s the fear. The Dutch and the Swedish are two they fear might want to go."
Daily demonstrations in France and Spain, youngsters fleeing their countries in droves in search of work.
“Recent years have witnessed the emigration of young Spanish people searching for labor opportunities. A decade after the beginning of the worldwide economic crisis in 2007, the rapid deterioration of living conditions and lack of opportunities for personal development combined with the breakdown of professional expectations have led thousands of young people to emigrate from Spain, creating the so-called youth exodus.“ |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
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Oooh, light the blue touch paper and walk away!
To be fair, some of those reports are quite old. I do know of some discontent in Europe but never enough to actually want to leave.
The upcoming French elections could well be a good litmus test. |
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"From 2019, maybe worse now with the EU delay in vaccine approval:
“The Swedish eurosceptic party Sweden Democrats (SW) has issued a dire warning to Brussels, suggesting the Scandinavian country could very well leave the bloc unless eurocrats accept to make substantial changes to its core institutions. A shocking poll in 2017 suggested more than half of The Netherlands would prefer to quit the EU.
Ms Fordwich continued: "There were rumours of Nexit, the Dutch leaving and The Netherlands, and Swexit after the right swing in Sweden.
"That’s the fear. The Dutch and the Swedish are two they fear might want to go."
Daily demonstrations in France and Spain, youngsters fleeing their countries in droves in search of work.
“Recent years have witnessed the emigration of young Spanish people searching for labor opportunities. A decade after the beginning of the worldwide economic crisis in 2007, the rapid deterioration of living conditions and lack of opportunities for personal development combined with the breakdown of professional expectations have led thousands of young people to emigrate from Spain, creating the so-called youth exodus.“"
I've lived in Spain and witnessed that myself, it's tragic and torn families apart. The introduction of the the EURO has been a disaster for them |
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"From 2019, maybe worse now with the EU delay in vaccine approval:
“The Swedish eurosceptic party Sweden Democrats (SW) has issued a dire warning to Brussels, suggesting the Scandinavian country could very well leave the bloc unless eurocrats accept to make substantial changes to its core institutions. A shocking poll in 2017 suggested more than half of The Netherlands would prefer to quit the EU.
Ms Fordwich continued: "There were rumours of Nexit, the Dutch leaving and The Netherlands, and Swexit after the right swing in Sweden.
"That’s the fear. The Dutch and the Swedish are two they fear might want to go."
Daily demonstrations in France and Spain, youngsters fleeing their countries in droves in search of work.
“Recent years have witnessed the emigration of young Spanish people searching for labor opportunities. A decade after the beginning of the worldwide economic crisis in 2007, the rapid deterioration of living conditions and lack of opportunities for personal development combined with the breakdown of professional expectations have led thousands of young people to emigrate from Spain, creating the so-called youth exodus.“"
By So many you mean 2 and over 3 years ago, you should maybe use more relevant information. Not even here do people seem to think it was a good idea looking at polls since the referendum.
https://whatukthinks.org/eu/questions/in-highsight-do-you-think-britain-was-right-or-wrong-to-vote-to-leave-the-eu/
It's good to see you given up on economical arguments though. |
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"Several countries have been wanting to join for years
How many of those countries have actually left?"
https://www.statista.com/statistics/755369/opinions-on-having-a-referendum-about-eu-membership-in-the-netherlands/
The majority of Dutch people don't want a referendum.
A poll in June showed 57.2 % of Swedes view EU membership as poistive.
Also in June Spain showed a 60% positive view of membership.
These are literally the countries you cite only more recently...Stop kidding yourself. |
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"Several countries have been wanting to join for years
How many of those countries have actually left?
https://www.statista.com/statistics/755369/opinions-on-having-a-referendum-about-eu-membership-in-the-netherlands/
The majority of Dutch people don't want a referendum.
A poll in June showed 57.2 % of Swedes view EU membership as poistive.
Also in June Spain showed a 60% positive view of membership.
These are literally the countries you cite only more recently...Stop kidding yourself."
https://redfieldandwiltonstrategies.com/high-levels-of-support-for-eu-and-eurozone-across-the-spanish-political-spectrum/ |
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"Ipsos Morí UK poll 2014 -
Remain in the EU 56%
Leave the EU 36%
Just sayin like "
You guys like using old data don't you!
https://whatukthinks.org/eu/opinion-polls/euref2-poll-of-polls-2/
People actually have an idea of what is going to be like now, not sure old scare stories that worked in 2016 will hold much water although there's no doubt there would be underhand tactics again. |
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"Ipsos Morí UK poll 2014 -
Remain in the EU 56%
Leave the EU 36%
Just sayin like
You guys like using old data don't you!
https://whatukthinks.org/eu/opinion-polls/euref2-poll-of-polls-2/
People actually have an idea of what is going to be like now, not sure old scare stories that worked in 2016 will hold much water although there's no doubt there would be underhand tactics again."
https://www.businessinsider.com/brexit-poll-minority-believe-was-right-to-leave-the-eu-2020-9?r=US&IR=T |
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"Ipsos Morí UK poll 2014 -
Remain in the EU 56%
Leave the EU 36%
Just sayin like
You guys like using old data don't you!
https://whatukthinks.org/eu/opinion-polls/euref2-poll-of-polls-2/
People actually have an idea of what is going to be like now, not sure old scare stories that worked in 2016 will hold much water although there's no doubt there would be underhand tactics again.
https://www.businessinsider.com/brexit-poll-minority-believe-was-right-to-leave-the-eu-2020-9?r=US&IR=T"
You're just confirming my point thanks  |
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"Ipsos Morí UK poll 2014 -
Remain in the EU 56%
Leave the EU 36%
Just sayin like
You guys like using old data don't you!
https://whatukthinks.org/eu/opinion-polls/euref2-poll-of-polls-2/
People actually have an idea of what is going to be like now, not sure old scare stories that worked in 2016 will hold much water although there's no doubt there would be underhand tactics again.
https://www.businessinsider.com/brexit-poll-minority-believe-was-right-to-leave-the-eu-2020-9?r=US&IR=T
You're just confirming my point thanks "
Not really, anyway, given recent polls do you think Spain, Sweden or The Netherlands want to leave? |
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"Ipsos Morí UK poll 2014 -
Remain in the EU 56%
Leave the EU 36%
Just sayin like
You guys like using old data don't you!
https://whatukthinks.org/eu/opinion-polls/euref2-poll-of-polls-2/
People actually have an idea of what is going to be like now, not sure old scare stories that worked in 2016 will hold much water although there's no doubt there would be underhand tactics again.
https://www.businessinsider.com/brexit-poll-minority-believe-was-right-to-leave-the-eu-2020-9?r=US&IR=T
You're just confirming my point thanks
Not really, anyway, given recent polls do you think Spain, Sweden or The Netherlands want to leave?"
I don't think you can give polls the time of day that's the point. Polls in 2015 and 2016 also said that remain would win but I can give you some more up to date FACTS if you Like and not just opinions.
Leave won the referendum - FACT
The Brexit party became the biggest UK party in the EU parliament - FACT
The Tories won an 80 seat majority by promising the result of a democratic decision taken by the British people would be carried out - FACT
The UK left the EU in January of this year - FACT
Any opiniones now are mute and pointless really |
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"Ipsos Morí UK poll 2014 -
Remain in the EU 56%
Leave the EU 36%
Just sayin like
You guys like using old data don't you!
https://whatukthinks.org/eu/opinion-polls/euref2-poll-of-polls-2/
People actually have an idea of what is going to be like now, not sure old scare stories that worked in 2016 will hold much water although there's no doubt there would be underhand tactics again.
https://www.businessinsider.com/brexit-poll-minority-believe-was-right-to-leave-the-eu-2020-9?r=US&IR=T
You're just confirming my point thanks
Not really, anyway, given recent polls do you think Spain, Sweden or The Netherlands want to leave?
I don't think you can give polls the time of day that's the point. Polls in 2015 and 2016 also said that remain would win but I can give you some more up to date FACTS if you Like and not just opinions.
Leave won the referendum - FACT
The Brexit party became the biggest UK party in the EU parliament - FACT
The Tories won an 80 seat majority by promising the result of a democratic decision taken by the British people would be carried out - FACT
The UK left the EU in January of this year - FACT
Any opiniones now are mute and pointless really "
Parties standing on a Brexit agenda got less than 50% of the vote in 2019 FACT.
You gov are considered to be fairly accurate polls, you just treat them like anything you don't like. |
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"Ipsos Morí UK poll 2014 -
Remain in the EU 56%
Leave the EU 36%
Just sayin like
You guys like using old data don't you!
https://whatukthinks.org/eu/opinion-polls/euref2-poll-of-polls-2/
People actually have an idea of what is going to be like now, not sure old scare stories that worked in 2016 will hold much water although there's no doubt there would be underhand tactics again.
https://www.businessinsider.com/brexit-poll-minority-believe-was-right-to-leave-the-eu-2020-9?r=US&IR=T
You're just confirming my point thanks
Not really, anyway, given recent polls do you think Spain, Sweden or The Netherlands want to leave?
I don't think you can give polls the time of day that's the point. Polls in 2015 and 2016 also said that remain would win but I can give you some more up to date FACTS if you Like and not just opinions.
Leave won the referendum - FACT
The Brexit party became the biggest UK party in the EU parliament - FACT
The Tories won an 80 seat majority by promising the result of a democratic decision taken by the British people would be carried out - FACT
The UK left the EU in January of this year - FACT
Any opiniones now are mute and pointless really "
So what was the point of the thread then?
And presumably if Brexit is a disaster,god forbid, no one can have an opinion? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Ipsos Morí UK poll 2014 -
Remain in the EU 56%
Leave the EU 36%
Just sayin like
You guys like using old data don't you!
https://whatukthinks.org/eu/opinion-polls/euref2-poll-of-polls-2/
People actually have an idea of what is going to be like now, not sure old scare stories that worked in 2016 will hold much water although there's no doubt there would be underhand tactics again.
https://www.businessinsider.com/brexit-poll-minority-believe-was-right-to-leave-the-eu-2020-9?r=US&IR=T
You're just confirming my point thanks
Not really, anyway, given recent polls do you think Spain, Sweden or The Netherlands want to leave?
I don't think you can give polls the time of day that's the point. Polls in 2015 and 2016 also said that remain would win but I can give you some more up to date FACTS if you Like and not just opinions.
Leave won the referendum - FACT
The Brexit party became the biggest UK party in the EU parliament - FACT
The Tories won an 80 seat majority by promising the result of a democratic decision taken by the British people would be carried out - FACT
The UK left the EU in January of this year - FACT
Any opiniones now are mute and pointless really
So what was the point of the thread then?
And presumably if Brexit is a disaster,god forbid, no one can have an opinion?"
Maybe to point out that a lot of people are unhappy with the EU |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Ipsos Morí UK poll 2014 -
Remain in the EU 56%
Leave the EU 36%
Just sayin like
You guys like using old data don't you!
https://whatukthinks.org/eu/opinion-polls/euref2-poll-of-polls-2/
People actually have an idea of what is going to be like now, not sure old scare stories that worked in 2016 will hold much water although there's no doubt there would be underhand tactics again.
https://www.businessinsider.com/brexit-poll-minority-believe-was-right-to-leave-the-eu-2020-9?r=US&IR=T
You're just confirming my point thanks
Not really, anyway, given recent polls do you think Spain, Sweden or The Netherlands want to leave?
I don't think you can give polls the time of day that's the point. Polls in 2015 and 2016 also said that remain would win but I can give you some more up to date FACTS if you Like and not just opinions.
Leave won the referendum - FACT
The Brexit party became the biggest UK party in the EU parliament - FACT
The Tories won an 80 seat majority by promising the result of a democratic decision taken by the British people would be carried out - FACT
The UK left the EU in January of this year - FACT
Any opiniones now are mute and pointless really
So what was the point of the thread then?
And presumably if Brexit is a disaster,god forbid, no one can have an opinion?
Maybe to point out that a lot of people are unhappy with the EU"
I think he's on about polls (old ones) being used in the Op.
Why were you only upset when I started using them? |
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"Ipsos Morí UK poll 2014 -
Remain in the EU 56%
Leave the EU 36%
Just sayin like
You guys like using old data don't you!
https://whatukthinks.org/eu/opinion-polls/euref2-poll-of-polls-2/
People actually have an idea of what is going to be like now, not sure old scare stories that worked in 2016 will hold much water although there's no doubt there would be underhand tactics again.
https://www.businessinsider.com/brexit-poll-minority-believe-was-right-to-leave-the-eu-2020-9?r=US&IR=T
You're just confirming my point thanks
Not really, anyway, given recent polls do you think Spain, Sweden or The Netherlands want to leave?
I don't think you can give polls the time of day that's the point. Polls in 2015 and 2016 also said that remain would win but I can give you some more up to date FACTS if you Like and not just opinions.
Leave won the referendum - FACT
The Brexit party became the biggest UK party in the EU parliament - FACT
The Tories won an 80 seat majority by promising the result of a democratic decision taken by the British people would be carried out - FACT
The UK left the EU in January of this year - FACT
Any opiniones now are mute and pointless really
So what was the point of the thread then?
And presumably if Brexit is a disaster,god forbid, no one can have an opinion?
Maybe to point out that a lot of people are unhappy with the EU"
Right
So polls are ok as long as they agree with your view. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Ipsos Morí UK poll 2014 -
Remain in the EU 56%
Leave the EU 36%
Just sayin like
You guys like using old data don't you!
https://whatukthinks.org/eu/opinion-polls/euref2-poll-of-polls-2/
People actually have an idea of what is going to be like now, not sure old scare stories that worked in 2016 will hold much water although there's no doubt there would be underhand tactics again.
https://www.businessinsider.com/brexit-poll-minority-believe-was-right-to-leave-the-eu-2020-9?r=US&IR=T
You're just confirming my point thanks
Not really, anyway, given recent polls do you think Spain, Sweden or The Netherlands want to leave?
I don't think you can give polls the time of day that's the point. Polls in 2015 and 2016 also said that remain would win but I can give you some more up to date FACTS if you Like and not just opinions.
Leave won the referendum - FACT
The Brexit party became the biggest UK party in the EU parliament - FACT
The Tories won an 80 seat majority by promising the result of a democratic decision taken by the British people would be carried out - FACT
The UK left the EU in January of this year - FACT
Any opiniones now are mute and pointless really
So what was the point of the thread then?
And presumably if Brexit is a disaster,god forbid, no one can have an opinion?
Maybe to point out that a lot of people are unhappy with the EU
Right
So polls are ok as long as they agree with your view."
Not saying anything of the sort. If the OP had said 30% wanted to leave the EU that's still a lot of people. Why do you think so many people across Europe are so unhappy with it and want to leave? |
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"Ipsos Morí UK poll 2014 -
Remain in the EU 56%
Leave the EU 36%
Just sayin like
You guys like using old data don't you!
https://whatukthinks.org/eu/opinion-polls/euref2-poll-of-polls-2/
People actually have an idea of what is going to be like now, not sure old scare stories that worked in 2016 will hold much water although there's no doubt there would be underhand tactics again.
https://www.businessinsider.com/brexit-poll-minority-believe-was-right-to-leave-the-eu-2020-9?r=US&IR=T
You're just confirming my point thanks
Not really, anyway, given recent polls do you think Spain, Sweden or The Netherlands want to leave?
I don't think you can give polls the time of day that's the point. Polls in 2015 and 2016 also said that remain would win but I can give you some more up to date FACTS if you Like and not just opinions.
Leave won the referendum - FACT
The Brexit party became the biggest UK party in the EU parliament - FACT
The Tories won an 80 seat majority by promising the result of a democratic decision taken by the British people would be carried out - FACT
The UK left the EU in January of this year - FACT
Any opiniones now are mute and pointless really
So what was the point of the thread then?
And presumably if Brexit is a disaster,god forbid, no one can have an opinion?
Maybe to point out that a lot of people are unhappy with the EU
Right
So polls are ok as long as they agree with your view.
Not saying anything of the sort. If the OP had said 30% wanted to leave the EU that's still a lot of people. Why do you think so many people across Europe are so unhappy with it and want to leave? "
But you can't trust them! |
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"Ipsos Morí UK poll 2014 -
Remain in the EU 56%
Leave the EU 36%
Just sayin like
You guys like using old data don't you!
https://whatukthinks.org/eu/opinion-polls/euref2-poll-of-polls-2/
People actually have an idea of what is going to be like now, not sure old scare stories that worked in 2016 will hold much water although there's no doubt there would be underhand tactics again.
https://www.businessinsider.com/brexit-poll-minority-believe-was-right-to-leave-the-eu-2020-9?r=US&IR=T
You're just confirming my point thanks
Not really, anyway, given recent polls do you think Spain, Sweden or The Netherlands want to leave?
I don't think you can give polls the time of day that's the point. Polls in 2015 and 2016 also said that remain would win but I can give you some more up to date FACTS if you Like and not just opinions.
Leave won the referendum - FACT
The Brexit party became the biggest UK party in the EU parliament - FACT
The Tories won an 80 seat majority by promising the result of a democratic decision taken by the British people would be carried out - FACT
The UK left the EU in January of this year - FACT
Any opiniones now are mute and pointless really
Parties standing on a Brexit agenda got less than 50% of the vote in 2019 FACT.
You gov are considered to be fairly accurate polls, you just treat them like anything you don't like. "
What was the labour parties position on Brexit then at the last election? Nobody knows, so claiming the 50% figure is again ridiculous. |
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"Several countries have been wanting to join for years
How many of those countries have actually left?
https://www.statista.com/statistics/755369/opinions-on-having-a-referendum-about-eu-membership-in-the-netherlands/
The majority of Dutch people don't want a referendum.
A poll in June showed 57.2 % of Swedes view EU membership as poistive.
Also in June Spain showed a 60% positive view of membership.
These are literally the countries you cite only more recently...Stop kidding yourself."
57%..... So the EU is becoming dramatically less popular then. The direction of travel is only one way, millions of people across Europe waking up to the greed and corruption of Brussels. |
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"Several countries have been wanting to join for years
How many of those countries have actually left?
https://www.statista.com/statistics/755369/opinions-on-having-a-referendum-about-eu-membership-in-the-netherlands/
The majority of Dutch people don't want a referendum.
A poll in June showed 57.2 % of Swedes view EU membership as poistive.
Also in June Spain showed a 60% positive view of membership.
These are literally the countries you cite only more recently...Stop kidding yourself.
57%..... So the EU is becoming dramatically less popular then. The direction of travel is only one way, millions of people across Europe waking up to the greed and corruption of Brussels."
Sorry, we've all agreed polls don't counts sorry, but especially if they are 3 years out of date. |
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"From 2019, maybe worse now with the EU delay in vaccine approval:
“The Swedish eurosceptic party Sweden Democrats (SW) has issued a dire warning to Brussels, suggesting the Scandinavian country could very well leave the bloc unless eurocrats accept to make substantial changes to its core institutions. A shocking poll in 2017 suggested more than half of The Netherlands would prefer to quit the EU.
Ms Fordwich continued: "There were rumours of Nexit, the Dutch leaving and The Netherlands, and Swexit after the right swing in Sweden.
"That’s the fear. The Dutch and the Swedish are two they fear might want to go."
Daily demonstrations in France and Spain, youngsters fleeing their countries in droves in search of work.
“Recent years have witnessed the emigration of young Spanish people searching for labor opportunities. A decade after the beginning of the worldwide economic crisis in 2007, the rapid deterioration of living conditions and lack of opportunities for personal development combined with the breakdown of professional expectations have led thousands of young people to emigrate from Spain, creating the so-called youth exodus.“"
Why would you assume that only British people are easily fooled?
Sure there are people in every country that believe their equivalents of the Daily Mail. |
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"Several countries have been wanting to join for years
How many of those countries have actually left?
https://www.statista.com/statistics/755369/opinions-on-having-a-referendum-about-eu-membership-in-the-netherlands/
The majority of Dutch people don't want a referendum.
A poll in June showed 57.2 % of Swedes view EU membership as poistive.
Also in June Spain showed a 60% positive view of membership.
These are literally the countries you cite only more recently...Stop kidding yourself.
57%..... So the EU is becoming dramatically less popular then. The direction of travel is only one way, millions of people across Europe waking up to the greed and corruption of Brussels.
Sorry, we've all agreed polls don't counts sorry, but especially if they are 3 years out of date."
Lol the 57% was the figure you quoted above, you referred to June although according to the article it was done in 2019, which is... last year, not three years ago.
Your credibility has taken another nosedive unfortunately. |
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"Several countries have been wanting to join for years
How many of those countries have actually left?
https://www.statista.com/statistics/755369/opinions-on-having-a-referendum-about-eu-membership-in-the-netherlands/
The majority of Dutch people don't want a referendum.
A poll in June showed 57.2 % of Swedes view EU membership as poistive.
Also in June Spain showed a 60% positive view of membership.
These are literally the countries you cite only more recently...Stop kidding yourself.
57%..... So the EU is becoming dramatically less popular then. The direction of travel is only one way, millions of people across Europe waking up to the greed and corruption of Brussels.
Sorry, we've all agreed polls don't counts sorry, but especially if they are 3 years out of date.
Lol the 57% was the figure you quoted above, you referred to June although according to the article it was done in 2019, which is... last year, not three years ago.
Your credibility has taken another nosedive unfortunately."
See the 200bn bloomberg figure was just brought up in Parliment! |
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"Several countries have been wanting to join for years
How many of those countries have actually left?
https://www.statista.com/statistics/755369/opinions-on-having-a-referendum-about-eu-membership-in-the-netherlands/
The majority of Dutch people don't want a referendum.
A poll in June showed 57.2 % of Swedes view EU membership as poistive.
Also in June Spain showed a 60% positive view of membership.
These are literally the countries you cite only more recently...Stop kidding yourself.
57%..... So the EU is becoming dramatically less popular then. The direction of travel is only one way, millions of people across Europe waking up to the greed and corruption of Brussels.
Sorry, we've all agreed polls don't counts sorry, but especially if they are 3 years out of date.
Lol the 57% was the figure you quoted above, you referred to June although according to the article it was done in 2019, which is... last year, not three years ago.
Your credibility has taken another nosedive unfortunately."
We've agreed polls don't count, Silver said so I'm afraid, it's funny being told about credibility by someone who makes quotes up. |
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"From 2019, maybe worse now with the EU delay in vaccine approval:
“The Swedish eurosceptic party Sweden Democrats (SW) has issued a dire warning to Brussels, suggesting the Scandinavian country could very well leave the bloc unless eurocrats accept to make substantial changes to its core institutions. A shocking poll in 2017 suggested more than half of The Netherlands would prefer to quit the EU.
Ms Fordwich continued: "There were rumours of Nexit, the Dutch leaving and The Netherlands, and Swexit after the right swing in Sweden.
"That’s the fear. The Dutch and the Swedish are two they fear might want to go."
Daily demonstrations in France and Spain, youngsters fleeing their countries in droves in search of work.
“Recent years have witnessed the emigration of young Spanish people searching for labor opportunities. A decade after the beginning of the worldwide economic crisis in 2007, the rapid deterioration of living conditions and lack of opportunities for personal development combined with the breakdown of professional expectations have led thousands of young people to emigrate from Spain, creating the so-called youth exodus.“"
Do you know where these Spanish youths are emigrating to ? |
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"From 2019, maybe worse now with the EU delay in vaccine approval:
“The Swedish eurosceptic party Sweden Democrats (SW) has issued a dire warning to Brussels, suggesting the Scandinavian country could very well leave the bloc unless eurocrats accept to make substantial changes to its core institutions. A shocking poll in 2017 suggested more than half of The Netherlands would prefer to quit the EU.
Ms Fordwich continued: "There were rumours of Nexit, the Dutch leaving and The Netherlands, and Swexit after the right swing in Sweden.
"That’s the fear. The Dutch and the Swedish are two they fear might want to go."
Daily demonstrations in France and Spain, youngsters fleeing their countries in droves in search of work.
“Recent years have witnessed the emigration of young Spanish people searching for labor opportunities. A decade after the beginning of the worldwide economic crisis in 2007, the rapid deterioration of living conditions and lack of opportunities for personal development combined with the breakdown of professional expectations have led thousands of young people to emigrate from Spain, creating the so-called youth exodus.“
Do you know where these Spanish youths are emigrating to ? "
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"Several countries have been wanting to join for years
How many of those countries have actually left?
https://www.statista.com/statistics/755369/opinions-on-having-a-referendum-about-eu-membership-in-the-netherlands/
The majority of Dutch people don't want a referendum.
A poll in June showed 57.2 % of Swedes view EU membership as poistive.
Also in June Spain showed a 60% positive view of membership.
These are literally the countries you cite only more recently...Stop kidding yourself.
57%..... So the EU is becoming dramatically less popular then. The direction of travel is only one way, millions of people across Europe waking up to the greed and corruption of Brussels.
Sorry, we've all agreed polls don't counts sorry, but especially if they are 3 years out of date.
Lol the 57% was the figure you quoted above, you referred to June although according to the article it was done in 2019, which is... last year, not three years ago.
Your credibility has taken another nosedive unfortunately.
See the 200bn bloomberg figure was just brought up in Parliment!"
Did they reference it accurately or did they get the amount and description out by a factor of 4 ? |
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"From 2019, maybe worse now with the EU delay in vaccine approval:
“The Swedish eurosceptic party Sweden Democrats (SW) has issued a dire warning to Brussels, suggesting the Scandinavian country could very well leave the bloc unless eurocrats accept to make substantial changes to its core institutions. A shocking poll in 2017 suggested more than half of The Netherlands would prefer to quit the EU.
Ms Fordwich continued: "There were rumours of Nexit, the Dutch leaving and The Netherlands, and Swexit after the right swing in Sweden.
"That’s the fear. The Dutch and the Swedish are two they fear might want to go."
Daily demonstrations in France and Spain, youngsters fleeing their countries in droves in search of work.
“Recent years have witnessed the emigration of young Spanish people searching for labor opportunities. A decade after the beginning of the worldwide economic crisis in 2007, the rapid deterioration of living conditions and lack of opportunities for personal development combined with the breakdown of professional expectations have led thousands of young people to emigrate from Spain, creating the so-called youth exodus.“
Do you know where these Spanish youths are emigrating to ?
Stow-on-the-Wold mainly "
I have heard it is the UKs equivalent of Ibiza , it is a bit like the Brits moving to a Benidorm |
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"Several countries have been wanting to join for years
How many of those countries have actually left?
https://www.statista.com/statistics/755369/opinions-on-having-a-referendum-about-eu-membership-in-the-netherlands/
The majority of Dutch people don't want a referendum.
A poll in June showed 57.2 % of Swedes view EU membership as poistive.
Also in June Spain showed a 60% positive view of membership.
These are literally the countries you cite only more recently...Stop kidding yourself.
57%..... So the EU is becoming dramatically less popular then. The direction of travel is only one way, millions of people across Europe waking up to the greed and corruption of Brussels.
Sorry, we've all agreed polls don't counts sorry, but especially if they are 3 years out of date.
Lol the 57% was the figure you quoted above, you referred to June although according to the article it was done in 2019, which is... last year, not three years ago.
Your credibility has taken another nosedive unfortunately.
See the 200bn bloomberg figure was just brought up in Parliment!
Did they reference it accurately or did they get the amount and description out by a factor of 4 ?"
A factor or 4? Where did you get that information from? |
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"Several countries have been wanting to join for years
How many of those countries have actually left?
https://www.statista.com/statistics/755369/opinions-on-having-a-referendum-about-eu-membership-in-the-netherlands/
The majority of Dutch people don't want a referendum.
A poll in June showed 57.2 % of Swedes view EU membership as poistive.
Also in June Spain showed a 60% positive view of membership.
These are literally the countries you cite only more recently...Stop kidding yourself.
57%..... So the EU is becoming dramatically less popular then. The direction of travel is only one way, millions of people across Europe waking up to the greed and corruption of Brussels.
Sorry, we've all agreed polls don't counts sorry, but especially if they are 3 years out of date.
Lol the 57% was the figure you quoted above, you referred to June although according to the article it was done in 2019, which is... last year, not three years ago.
Your credibility has taken another nosedive unfortunately.
See the 200bn bloomberg figure was just brought up in Parliment!
Did they reference it accurately or did they get the amount and description out by a factor of 4 ?
A factor or 4? Where did you get that information from? "
One of your fellow Remoaners keeps claiming on these threads it’s a calculated figure (according to full fact.org it’s an estimate) and it refers to this year (according to full fact.org it refers to the last four years).
Let me just double check, four, one..... yep out by a factor of four. |
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"Several countries have been wanting to join for years
How many of those countries have actually left?
https://www.statista.com/statistics/755369/opinions-on-having-a-referendum-about-eu-membership-in-the-netherlands/
The majority of Dutch people don't want a referendum.
A poll in June showed 57.2 % of Swedes view EU membership as poistive.
Also in June Spain showed a 60% positive view of membership.
These are literally the countries you cite only more recently...Stop kidding yourself.
57%..... So the EU is becoming dramatically less popular then. The direction of travel is only one way, millions of people across Europe waking up to the greed and corruption of Brussels.
Sorry, we've all agreed polls don't counts sorry, but especially if they are 3 years out of date.
Lol the 57% was the figure you quoted above, you referred to June although according to the article it was done in 2019, which is... last year, not three years ago.
Your credibility has taken another nosedive unfortunately.
See the 200bn bloomberg figure was just brought up in Parliment!
Did they reference it accurately or did they get the amount and description out by a factor of 4 ?
A factor or 4? Where did you get that information from?
One of your fellow Remoaners keeps claiming on these threads it’s a calculated figure (according to full fact.org it’s an estimate) and it refers to this year (according to full fact.org it refers to the last four years).
Let me just double check, four, one..... yep out by a factor of four. "
So it is only 50 billion? Wow, that is a result, another Brexit bonus  |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"From 2019, maybe worse now with the EU delay in vaccine approval:
“The Swedish eurosceptic party Sweden Democrats (SW) has issued a dire warning to Brussels, suggesting the Scandinavian country could very well leave the bloc unless eurocrats accept to make substantial changes to its core institutions. A shocking poll in 2017 suggested more than half of The Netherlands would prefer to quit the EU.
Ms Fordwich continued: "There were rumours of Nexit, the Dutch leaving and The Netherlands, and Swexit after the right swing in Sweden.
"That’s the fear. The Dutch and the Swedish are two they fear might want to go."
Daily demonstrations in France and Spain, youngsters fleeing their countries in droves in search of work.
“Recent years have witnessed the emigration of young Spanish people searching for labor opportunities. A decade after the beginning of the worldwide economic crisis in 2007, the rapid deterioration of living conditions and lack of opportunities for personal development combined with the breakdown of professional expectations have led thousands of young people to emigrate from Spain, creating the so-called youth exodus.“
Do you know where these Spanish youths are emigrating to ?
Stow-on-the-Wold mainly
I have heard it is the UKs equivalent of Ibiza , it is a bit like the Brits moving to a Benidorm "
Remember they are bad when these nasty immigrants move to the uk... but dare infringe on “ex pats” rights to move in the other direction and their will be hell to pay....
Is that about right?
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"From 2019, maybe worse now with the EU delay in vaccine approval:
“The Swedish eurosceptic party Sweden Democrats (SW) has issued a dire warning to Brussels, suggesting the Scandinavian country could very well leave the bloc unless eurocrats accept to make substantial changes to its core institutions. A shocking poll in 2017 suggested more than half of The Netherlands would prefer to quit the EU.
Ms Fordwich continued: "There were rumours of Nexit, the Dutch leaving and The Netherlands, and Swexit after the right swing in Sweden.
"That’s the fear. The Dutch and the Swedish are two they fear might want to go."
Daily demonstrations in France and Spain, youngsters fleeing their countries in droves in search of work.
“Recent years have witnessed the emigration of young Spanish people searching for labor opportunities. A decade after the beginning of the worldwide economic crisis in 2007, the rapid deterioration of living conditions and lack of opportunities for personal development combined with the breakdown of professional expectations have led thousands of young people to emigrate from Spain, creating the so-called youth exodus.“
Do you know where these Spanish youths are emigrating to ?
Stow-on-the-Wold mainly
I have heard it is the UKs equivalent of Ibiza , it is a bit like the Brits moving to a Benidorm
Remember they are bad when these nasty immigrants move to the uk... but dare infringe on “ex pats” rights to move in the other direction and their will be hell to pay....
Is that about right?
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Spot on, 270,000 British citizens live in Spain full time and 1 million spend at least half the year there. |
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"From 2019, maybe worse now with the EU delay in vaccine approval:
“The Swedish eurosceptic party Sweden Democrats (SW) has issued a dire warning to Brussels, suggesting the Scandinavian country could very well leave the bloc unless eurocrats accept to make substantial changes to its core institutions. A shocking poll in 2017 suggested more than half of The Netherlands would prefer to quit the EU.
Ms Fordwich continued: "There were rumours of Nexit, the Dutch leaving and The Netherlands, and Swexit after the right swing in Sweden.
"That’s the fear. The Dutch and the Swedish are two they fear might want to go."
Daily demonstrations in France and Spain, youngsters fleeing their countries in droves in search of work.
“Recent years have witnessed the emigration of young Spanish people searching for labor opportunities. A decade after the beginning of the worldwide economic crisis in 2007, the rapid deterioration of living conditions and lack of opportunities for personal development combined with the breakdown of professional expectations have led thousands of young people to emigrate from Spain, creating the so-called youth exodus.“
Do you know where these Spanish youths are emigrating to ?
Stow-on-the-Wold mainly
I have heard it is the UKs equivalent of Ibiza , it is a bit like the Brits moving to a Benidorm
Remember they are bad when these nasty immigrants move to the uk... but dare infringe on “ex pats” rights to move in the other direction and their will be hell to pay....
Is that about right?
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Nobody blames immigrants, they blame the politicians and the rules. And why are you using the word nasty? |
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"From 2019, maybe worse now with the EU delay in vaccine approval:
“The Swedish eurosceptic party Sweden Democrats (SW) has issued a dire warning to Brussels, suggesting the Scandinavian country could very well leave the bloc unless eurocrats accept to make substantial changes to its core institutions. A shocking poll in 2017 suggested more than half of The Netherlands would prefer to quit the EU.
Ms Fordwich continued: "There were rumours of Nexit, the Dutch leaving and The Netherlands, and Swexit after the right swing in Sweden.
"That’s the fear. The Dutch and the Swedish are two they fear might want to go."
Daily demonstrations in France and Spain, youngsters fleeing their countries in droves in search of work.
“Recent years have witnessed the emigration of young Spanish people searching for labor opportunities. A decade after the beginning of the worldwide economic crisis in 2007, the rapid deterioration of living conditions and lack of opportunities for personal development combined with the breakdown of professional expectations have led thousands of young people to emigrate from Spain, creating the so-called youth exodus.“
Why would you assume that only British people are easily fooled?
Sure there are people in every country that believe their equivalents of the Daily Mail."
Are you a reader of the Mail? |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"From 2019, maybe worse now with the EU delay in vaccine approval:
“The Swedish eurosceptic party Sweden Democrats (SW) has issued a dire warning to Brussels, suggesting the Scandinavian country could very well leave the bloc unless eurocrats accept to make substantial changes to its core institutions. A shocking poll in 2017 suggested more than half of The Netherlands would prefer to quit the EU.
Ms Fordwich continued: "There were rumours of Nexit, the Dutch leaving and The Netherlands, and Swexit after the right swing in Sweden.
"That’s the fear. The Dutch and the Swedish are two they fear might want to go."
Daily demonstrations in France and Spain, youngsters fleeing their countries in droves in search of work.
“Recent years have witnessed the emigration of young Spanish people searching for labor opportunities. A decade after the beginning of the worldwide economic crisis in 2007, the rapid deterioration of living conditions and lack of opportunities for personal development combined with the breakdown of professional expectations have led thousands of young people to emigrate from Spain, creating the so-called youth exodus.“"
The EU is a failing body to large to function.
many countries now vaccinating against covid but they are still waiting for there cumbersome machine to aprove it.
900 a day dying in Germany yet they cannot save there own people,says a lot about the EU |
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"From 2019, maybe worse now with the EU delay in vaccine approval:
“The Swedish eurosceptic party Sweden Democrats (SW) has issued a dire warning to Brussels, suggesting the Scandinavian country could very well leave the bloc unless eurocrats accept to make substantial changes to its core institutions. A shocking poll in 2017 suggested more than half of The Netherlands would prefer to quit the EU.
Ms Fordwich continued: "There were rumours of Nexit, the Dutch leaving and The Netherlands, and Swexit after the right swing in Sweden.
"That’s the fear. The Dutch and the Swedish are two they fear might want to go."
Daily demonstrations in France and Spain, youngsters fleeing their countries in droves in search of work.
“Recent years have witnessed the emigration of young Spanish people searching for labor opportunities. A decade after the beginning of the worldwide economic crisis in 2007, the rapid deterioration of living conditions and lack of opportunities for personal development combined with the breakdown of professional expectations have led thousands of young people to emigrate from Spain, creating the so-called youth exodus.“The EU is a failing body to large to function.
many countries now vaccinating against covid but they are still waiting for there cumbersome machine to aprove it.
900 a day dying in Germany yet they cannot save there own people,says a lot about the EU"
Germany 23,500 COVID deaths
UK 64,900 COVID deaths  |
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"From 2019, maybe worse now with the EU delay in vaccine approval:
“The Swedish eurosceptic party Sweden Democrats (SW) has issued a dire warning to Brussels, suggesting the Scandinavian country could very well leave the bloc unless eurocrats accept to make substantial changes to its core institutions. A shocking poll in 2017 suggested more than half of The Netherlands would prefer to quit the EU.
Ms Fordwich continued: "There were rumours of Nexit, the Dutch leaving and The Netherlands, and Swexit after the right swing in Sweden.
"That’s the fear. The Dutch and the Swedish are two they fear might want to go."
Daily demonstrations in France and Spain, youngsters fleeing their countries in droves in search of work.
“Recent years have witnessed the emigration of young Spanish people searching for labor opportunities. A decade after the beginning of the worldwide economic crisis in 2007, the rapid deterioration of living conditions and lack of opportunities for personal development combined with the breakdown of professional expectations have led thousands of young people to emigrate from Spain, creating the so-called youth exodus.“The EU is a failing body to large to function.
many countries now vaccinating against covid but they are still waiting for there cumbersome machine to aprove it.
900 a day dying in Germany yet they cannot save there own people,says a lot about the EU"
900 day dying in Germany? Sure about that? Try WHO Dashboard Germany I think you will find the numbers you've cited, slightly hyperbolic  |
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And funnily enough those ex pats and visitors in Spain don't take jobs or compete for jobs, they create jobs and the Spanish I know are desperate for them to return |
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"If you think immigragration was nothing to do with Brexit, you havent been paying attention "
Of course it had something to do with Brexit but the rules not the people! I'll let my parents, who came from Italy in 1960 and voted for Brexit that they are racist or xenophobic shall I? |
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"And funnily enough those ex pats and visitors in Spain don't take jobs or compete for jobs, they create jobs and the Spanish I know are desperate for them to return "
I honestly wouldn't know where to start with that |
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"And funnily enough those ex pats and visitors in Spain don't take jobs or compete for jobs, they create jobs and the Spanish I know are desperate for them to return
I honestly wouldn't know where to start with that "
Try, amuse us |
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"If you think immigragration was nothing to do with Brexit, you havent been paying attention
Of course it had something to do with Brexit but the rules not the people! I'll let my parents, who came from Italy in 1960 and voted for Brexit that they are racist or xenophobic shall I? "
trust me there’s some on here that would call them racist lol |
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" Why do so many other countries want to leave the EU?"
How do you know "so many Countries want to leave the EU"? Have these Countries told you they want to leave?
and if "so many countries" do want to leave, why haven't they do so already? seen as they've told you
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"If you think immigragration was nothing to do with Brexit, you havent been paying attention
Of course it had something to do with Brexit but the rules not the people! I'll let my parents, who came from Italy in 1960 and voted for Brexit that they are racist or xenophobic shall I? trust me there’s some on here that would call them racist lol"
I'm sure mate, they really don't get it. And if not that, they will probably say it must be dementia lol |
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"If you think immigragration was nothing to do with Brexit, you havent been paying attention
Of course it had something to do with Brexit but the rules not the people! I'll let my parents, who came from Italy in 1960 and voted for Brexit that they are racist or xenophobic shall I? trust me there’s some on here that would call them racist lol
I'm sure mate, they really don't get it. And if not that, they will probably say it must be dementia lol"
exactly one things for sure it will be an insult the favourite at the moment is do they read the daily mail lol |
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"If you think immigragration was nothing to do with Brexit, you havent been paying attention
Of course it had something to do with Brexit but the rules not the people! I'll let my parents, who came from Italy in 1960 and voted for Brexit that they are racist or xenophobic shall I? trust me there’s some on here that would call them racist lol
I'm sure mate, they really don't get it. And if not that, they will probably say it must be dementia lolexactly one things for sure it will be an insult the favourite at the moment is do they read the daily mail lol"
funny how they all seem to know what's in it, I read it once donkeys years ago |
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"It's been rumoured to be about to collapse for years, some on here positively drool at the possibility which is a tad strange..
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I know, it is the only way that some leavers can vindicate their vote , strange and pathetic |
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"Several countries have been wanting to join for years
How many of those countries have actually left?
https://www.statista.com/statistics/755369/opinions-on-having-a-referendum-about-eu-membership-in-the-netherlands/
The majority of Dutch people don't want a referendum.
A poll in June showed 57.2 % of Swedes view EU membership as poistive.
Also in June Spain showed a 60% positive view of membership.
These are literally the countries you cite only more recently...Stop kidding yourself.
57%..... So the EU is becoming dramatically less popular then. The direction of travel is only one way, millions of people across Europe waking up to the greed and corruption of Brussels.
Sorry, we've all agreed polls don't counts sorry, but especially if they are 3 years out of date.
Lol the 57% was the figure you quoted above, you referred to June although according to the article it was done in 2019, which is... last year, not three years ago.
Your credibility has taken another nosedive unfortunately.
See the 200bn bloomberg figure was just brought up in Parliment!
Did they reference it accurately or did they get the amount and description out by a factor of 4 ?
A factor or 4? Where did you get that information from?
One of your fellow Remoaners keeps claiming on these threads it’s a calculated figure (according to full fact.org it’s an estimate) and it refers to this year (according to full fact.org it refers to the last four years).
Let me just double check, four, one..... yep out by a factor of four.
So it is only 50 billion? Wow, that is a result, another Brexit bonus "
Is that how it works then lol. Remoaners quote a ridiculous made up figure, we quote what was actually claimed, and you go Nahnanhdenahnah told you.
Ok let’s play.
Fraud in Brussels costs 174 million billion a year and Draghi spent 42 million hiring a private jet.
Now you correct me, go |
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"Several countries have been wanting to join for years
How many of those countries have actually left?
https://www.statista.com/statistics/755369/opinions-on-having-a-referendum-about-eu-membership-in-the-netherlands/
The majority of Dutch people don't want a referendum.
A poll in June showed 57.2 % of Swedes view EU membership as poistive.
Also in June Spain showed a 60% positive view of membership.
These are literally the countries you cite only more recently...Stop kidding yourself.
57%..... So the EU is becoming dramatically less popular then. The direction of travel is only one way, millions of people across Europe waking up to the greed and corruption of Brussels.
Sorry, we've all agreed polls don't counts sorry, but especially if they are 3 years out of date.
Lol the 57% was the figure you quoted above, you referred to June although according to the article it was done in 2019, which is... last year, not three years ago.
Your credibility has taken another nosedive unfortunately.
See the 200bn bloomberg figure was just brought up in Parliment!
Did they reference it accurately or did they get the amount and description out by a factor of 4 ?
A factor or 4? Where did you get that information from?
One of your fellow Remoaners keeps claiming on these threads it’s a calculated figure (according to full fact.org it’s an estimate) and it refers to this year (according to full fact.org it refers to the last four years).
Let me just double check, four, one..... yep out by a factor of four.
So it is only 50 billion? Wow, that is a result, another Brexit bonus
Is that how it works then lol. Remoaners quote a ridiculous made up figure, we quote what was actually claimed, and you go Nahnanhdenahnah told you.
Ok let’s play.
Fraud in Brussels costs 174 million billion a year and Draghi spent 42 million hiring a private jet.
Now you correct me, go"
Ok, let’s pretend that your £50 billion figure is correct . How long will it take the UK to recoup that money and start to out perform its nearest EU rivals (based on population and GDP , France & Germany ) ? |
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"Several countries have been wanting to join for years
How many of those countries have actually left?
https://www.statista.com/statistics/755369/opinions-on-having-a-referendum-about-eu-membership-in-the-netherlands/
The majority of Dutch people don't want a referendum.
A poll in June showed 57.2 % of Swedes view EU membership as poistive.
Also in June Spain showed a 60% positive view of membership.
These are literally the countries you cite only more recently...Stop kidding yourself.
57%..... So the EU is becoming dramatically less popular then. The direction of travel is only one way, millions of people across Europe waking up to the greed and corruption of Brussels.
Sorry, we've all agreed polls don't counts sorry, but especially if they are 3 years out of date.
Lol the 57% was the figure you quoted above, you referred to June although according to the article it was done in 2019, which is... last year, not three years ago.
Your credibility has taken another nosedive unfortunately.
See the 200bn bloomberg figure was just brought up in Parliment!
Did they reference it accurately or did they get the amount and description out by a factor of 4 ?
A factor or 4? Where did you get that information from?
One of your fellow Remoaners keeps claiming on these threads it’s a calculated figure (according to full fact.org it’s an estimate) and it refers to this year (according to full fact.org it refers to the last four years).
Let me just double check, four, one..... yep out by a factor of four.
So it is only 50 billion? Wow, that is a result, another Brexit bonus
Is that how it works then lol. Remoaners quote a ridiculous made up figure, we quote what was actually claimed, and you go Nahnanhdenahnah told you.
Ok let’s play.
Fraud in Brussels costs 174 million billion a year and Draghi spent 42 million hiring a private jet.
Now you correct me, go
Ok, let’s pretend that your £50 billion figure is correct . How long will it take the UK to recoup that money and start to out perform its nearest EU rivals (based on population and GDP , France & Germany ) ? "
Not my figure, it’s the Bloomberg figure that was debunked on Monday, do keep up |
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"Several countries have been wanting to join for years
How many of those countries have actually left?
https://www.statista.com/statistics/755369/opinions-on-having-a-referendum-about-eu-membership-in-the-netherlands/
The majority of Dutch people don't want a referendum.
A poll in June showed 57.2 % of Swedes view EU membership as poistive.
Also in June Spain showed a 60% positive view of membership.
These are literally the countries you cite only more recently...Stop kidding yourself.
57%..... So the EU is becoming dramatically less popular then. The direction of travel is only one way, millions of people across Europe waking up to the greed and corruption of Brussels.
Sorry, we've all agreed polls don't counts sorry, but especially if they are 3 years out of date.
Lol the 57% was the figure you quoted above, you referred to June although according to the article it was done in 2019, which is... last year, not three years ago.
Your credibility has taken another nosedive unfortunately.
See the 200bn bloomberg figure was just brought up in Parliment!
Did they reference it accurately or did they get the amount and description out by a factor of 4 ?
A factor or 4? Where did you get that information from?
One of your fellow Remoaners keeps claiming on these threads it’s a calculated figure (according to full fact.org it’s an estimate) and it refers to this year (according to full fact.org it refers to the last four years).
Let me just double check, four, one..... yep out by a factor of four.
So it is only 50 billion? Wow, that is a result, another Brexit bonus
Is that how it works then lol. Remoaners quote a ridiculous made up figure, we quote what was actually claimed, and you go Nahnanhdenahnah told you.
Ok let’s play.
Fraud in Brussels costs 174 million billion a year and Draghi spent 42 million hiring a private jet.
Now you correct me, go
Ok, let’s pretend that your £50 billion figure is correct . How long will it take the UK to recoup that money and start to out perform its nearest EU rivals (based on population and GDP , France & Germany ) ?
Not my figure, it’s the Bloomberg figure that was debunked on Monday, do keep up "
Like I said, let’s pretend it’s accurate, now you can answer my question, after all , you voted for this, you must have an idea ?? |
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over a year ago
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"From 2019, maybe worse now with the EU delay in vaccine approval:
“The Swedish eurosceptic party Sweden Democrats (SW) has issued a dire warning to Brussels, suggesting the Scandinavian country could very well leave the bloc unless eurocrats accept to make substantial changes to its core institutions. A shocking poll in 2017 suggested more than half of The Netherlands would prefer to quit the EU.
Ms Fordwich continued: "There were rumours of Nexit, the Dutch leaving and The Netherlands, and Swexit after the right swing in Sweden.
"That’s the fear. The Dutch and the Swedish are two they fear might want to go."
Daily demonstrations in France and Spain, youngsters fleeing their countries in droves in search of work.
“Recent years have witnessed the emigration of young Spanish people searching for labor opportunities. A decade after the beginning of the worldwide economic crisis in 2007, the rapid deterioration of living conditions and lack of opportunities for personal development combined with the breakdown of professional expectations have led thousands of young people to emigrate from Spain, creating the so-called youth exodus.“The EU is a failing body to large to function.
many countries now vaccinating against covid but they are still waiting for there cumbersome machine to aprove it.
900 a day dying in Germany yet they cannot save there own people,says a lot about the EU
900 day dying in Germany? Sure about that? Try WHO Dashboard Germany I think you will find the numbers you've cited, slightly hyperbolic "
They are true so look at facts not your built in head fantasy |
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"From 2019, maybe worse now with the EU delay in vaccine approval:
“The Swedish eurosceptic party Sweden Democrats (SW) has issued a dire warning to Brussels, suggesting the Scandinavian country could very well leave the bloc unless eurocrats accept to make substantial changes to its core institutions. A shocking poll in 2017 suggested more than half of The Netherlands would prefer to quit the EU.
Ms Fordwich continued: "There were rumours of Nexit, the Dutch leaving and The Netherlands, and Swexit after the right swing in Sweden.
"That’s the fear. The Dutch and the Swedish are two they fear might want to go."
Daily demonstrations in France and Spain, youngsters fleeing their countries in droves in search of work.
“Recent years have witnessed the emigration of young Spanish people searching for labor opportunities. A decade after the beginning of the worldwide economic crisis in 2007, the rapid deterioration of living conditions and lack of opportunities for personal development combined with the breakdown of professional expectations have led thousands of young people to emigrate from Spain, creating the so-called youth exodus.“The EU is a failing body to large to function.
many countries now vaccinating against covid but they are still waiting for there cumbersome machine to aprove it.
900 a day dying in Germany yet they cannot save there own people,says a lot about the EU
900 day dying in Germany? Sure about that? Try WHO Dashboard Germany I think you will find the numbers you've cited, slightly hyperbolic They are true so look at facts not your built in head fantasy"
Germany 23,500 COVID deaths
UK 64,900 COVID deaths |
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"From 2019, maybe worse now with the EU delay in vaccine approval:
“The Swedish eurosceptic party Sweden Democrats (SW) has issued a dire warning to Brussels, suggesting the Scandinavian country could very well leave the bloc unless eurocrats accept to make substantial changes to its core institutions. A shocking poll in 2017 suggested more than half of The Netherlands would prefer to quit the EU.
Ms Fordwich continued: "There were rumours of Nexit, the Dutch leaving and The Netherlands, and Swexit after the right swing in Sweden.
"That’s the fear. The Dutch and the Swedish are two they fear might want to go."
Daily demonstrations in France and Spain, youngsters fleeing their countries in droves in search of work.
“Recent years have witnessed the emigration of young Spanish people searching for labor opportunities. A decade after the beginning of the worldwide economic crisis in 2007, the rapid deterioration of living conditions and lack of opportunities for personal development combined with the breakdown of professional expectations have led thousands of young people to emigrate from Spain, creating the so-called youth exodus.“The EU is a failing body to large to function.
many countries now vaccinating against covid but they are still waiting for there cumbersome machine to aprove it.
900 a day dying in Germany yet they cannot save there own people,says a lot about the EU
900 day dying in Germany? Sure about that? Try WHO Dashboard Germany I think you will find the numbers you've cited, slightly hyperbolic They are true so look at facts not your built in head fantasy"
I will stick to WHO Dashboard Germany deaths showed a resurgence around October but December 9th was the worst day 590 deaths, nowhere before or after ever came close to the figures you cited, sorry WHO Dashboard is very reliable.  |
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"It's been rumoured to be about to collapse for years, some on here positively drool at the possibility which is a tad strange..
Indeed as it'd take us down with them. "
Thus..
It's like being in a row of terraced houses and wanting the ones next door to burn down.. |
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"Several countries have been wanting to join for years
How many of those countries have actually left?
https://www.statista.com/statistics/755369/opinions-on-having-a-referendum-about-eu-membership-in-the-netherlands/
The majority of Dutch people don't want a referendum.
A poll in June showed 57.2 % of Swedes view EU membership as poistive.
Also in June Spain showed a 60% positive view of membership.
These are literally the countries you cite only more recently...Stop kidding yourself.
57%..... So the EU is becoming dramatically less popular then. The direction of travel is only one way, millions of people across Europe waking up to the greed and corruption of Brussels.
Sorry, we've all agreed polls don't counts sorry, but especially if they are 3 years out of date.
Lol the 57% was the figure you quoted above, you referred to June although according to the article it was done in 2019, which is... last year, not three years ago.
Your credibility has taken another nosedive unfortunately.
See the 200bn bloomberg figure was just brought up in Parliment!
Did they reference it accurately or did they get the amount and description out by a factor of 4 ?
A factor or 4? Where did you get that information from?
One of your fellow Remoaners keeps claiming on these threads it’s a calculated figure (according to full fact.org it’s an estimate) and it refers to this year (according to full fact.org it refers to the last four years).
Let me just double check, four, one..... yep out by a factor of four.
So it is only 50 billion? Wow, that is a result, another Brexit bonus
Is that how it works then lol. Remoaners quote a ridiculous made up figure, we quote what was actually claimed, and you go Nahnanhdenahnah told you.
Ok let’s play.
Fraud in Brussels costs 174 million billion a year and Draghi spent 42 million hiring a private jet.
Now you correct me, go
Ok, let’s pretend that your £50 billion figure is correct . How long will it take the UK to recoup that money and start to out perform its nearest EU rivals (based on population and GDP , France & Germany ) ?
Not my figure, it’s the Bloomberg figure that was debunked on Monday, do keep up
Like I said, let’s pretend it’s accurate, now you can answer my question, after all , you voted for this, you must have an idea ?? "
I tried this approach. Apparently only being £50 billion a year down is a huge success. |
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"From 2019, maybe worse now with the EU delay in vaccine approval:
“The Swedish eurosceptic party Sweden Democrats (SW) has issued a dire warning to Brussels, suggesting the Scandinavian country could very well leave the bloc unless eurocrats accept to make substantial changes to its core institutions. A shocking poll in 2017 suggested more than half of The Netherlands would prefer to quit the EU.
Ms Fordwich continued: "There were rumours of Nexit, the Dutch leaving and The Netherlands, and Swexit after the right swing in Sweden.
"That’s the fear. The Dutch and the Swedish are two they fear might want to go."
Daily demonstrations in France and Spain, youngsters fleeing their countries in droves in search of work.
“Recent years have witnessed the emigration of young Spanish people searching for labor opportunities. A decade after the beginning of the worldwide economic crisis in 2007, the rapid deterioration of living conditions and lack of opportunities for personal development combined with the breakdown of professional expectations have led thousands of young people to emigrate from Spain, creating the so-called youth exodus.“
Why would you assume that only British people are easily fooled?
Sure there are people in every country that believe their equivalents of the Daily Mail.
Are you a reader of the Mail?"
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"From 2019, maybe worse now with the EU delay in vaccine approval:
“The Swedish eurosceptic party Sweden Democrats (SW) has issued a dire warning to Brussels, suggesting the Scandinavian country could very well leave the bloc unless eurocrats accept to make substantial changes to its core institutions. A shocking poll in 2017 suggested more than half of The Netherlands would prefer to quit the EU.
Ms Fordwich continued: "There were rumours of Nexit, the Dutch leaving and The Netherlands, and Swexit after the right swing in Sweden.
"That’s the fear. The Dutch and the Swedish are two they fear might want to go."
Daily demonstrations in France and Spain, youngsters fleeing their countries in droves in search of work.
“Recent years have witnessed the emigration of young Spanish people searching for labor opportunities. A decade after the beginning of the worldwide economic crisis in 2007, the rapid deterioration of living conditions and lack of opportunities for personal development combined with the breakdown of professional expectations have led thousands of young people to emigrate from Spain, creating the so-called youth exodus.“
Why would you assume that only British people are easily fooled?
Sure there are people in every country that believe their equivalents of the Daily Mail.
Are you a reader of the Mail?
Come on now! What kind of question is that ?!?"
A straightforward one - do you?
I find it funny that people like to blame so much on a newspaper, and use it as a veiled attack on those that do. What’s really funny is those that think it clever so say ‘Daily Fail’. Other than fail rhymes with Mail, what’s the relevance?
I like to read a selection of papers. I don’t particularly like the Sun but I know some lovely people that do. If / when in my local cafe I will read it- will that skew / corrupt my political thinking? I doubt it.
“The daily fail”. Dear oh dear.
It’s just a newspaper for fucks sake. One that every now and then I enjoy reading, especially if Chelsea have had a good win as I’m sure the main footie guy is a fan. |
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"From 2019, maybe worse now with the EU delay in vaccine approval:
“The Swedish eurosceptic party Sweden Democrats (SW) has issued a dire warning to Brussels, suggesting the Scandinavian country could very well leave the bloc unless eurocrats accept to make substantial changes to its core institutions. A shocking poll in 2017 suggested more than half of The Netherlands would prefer to quit the EU.
Ms Fordwich continued: "There were rumours of Nexit, the Dutch leaving and The Netherlands, and Swexit after the right swing in Sweden.
"That’s the fear. The Dutch and the Swedish are two they fear might want to go."
Daily demonstrations in France and Spain, youngsters fleeing their countries in droves in search of work.
“Recent years have witnessed the emigration of young Spanish people searching for labor opportunities. A decade after the beginning of the worldwide economic crisis in 2007, the rapid deterioration of living conditions and lack of opportunities for personal development combined with the breakdown of professional expectations have led thousands of young people to emigrate from Spain, creating the so-called youth exodus.“
Why would you assume that only British people are easily fooled?
Sure there are people in every country that believe their equivalents of the Daily Mail.
Are you a reader of the Mail?
Come on now! What kind of question is that ?!?
A straightforward one - do you?
I find it funny that people like to blame so much on a newspaper, and use it as a veiled attack on those that do. What’s really funny is those that think it clever so say ‘Daily Fail’. Other than fail rhymes with Mail, what’s the relevance?
I like to read a selection of papers. I don’t particularly like the Sun but I know some lovely people that do. If / when in my local cafe I will read it- will that skew / corrupt my political thinking? I doubt it.
“The daily fail”. Dear oh dear.
It’s just a newspaper for fucks sake. One that every now and then I enjoy reading, especially if Chelsea have had a good win as I’m sure the main footie guy is a fan."
It's just an example used to demonstrate the point. I could have said Daily Express.
The point is, every country has their right wing media elements that work hard to convince working class people that their problems are caused by foreigners instead of their own government. |
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Glad to see someone else pointing out the EU has been crumbling.
Anyone who says it's old material and you must use new material misses the key point that it's not something new and it was going on years and years before this too. Brexit started 4 years ago... The EU have been the main stalkers in the process for obvious reasons too.
What many remoaners and EU members want is for Britain to fail for the simple reason to stop others from exiting. They succeeded with Greece through bl*ck m*il and holding back billions which they should have returned and by holding it back caused economic hardship and prevention of success to leave. They succeeded there, not with the UK and others will undoubtedly follow. Not necessarily in the same manor but their relationship with the EU will change. Maybe the E U will change as a result. This might be a better answer, but they have demonstrated its not something they want to do. |
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"Glad to see someone else pointing out the EU has been crumbling.
Anyone who says it's old material and you must use new material misses the key point that it's not something new and it was going on years and years before this too. Brexit started 4 years ago... The EU have been the main stalkers in the process for obvious reasons too.
What many remoaners and EU members want is for Britain to fail for the simple reason to stop others from exiting. They succeeded with Greece through bl*ck m*il and holding back billions which they should have returned and by holding it back caused economic hardship and prevention of success to leave. They succeeded there, not with the UK and others will undoubtedly follow. Not necessarily in the same manor but their relationship with the EU will change. Maybe the E U will change as a result. This might be a better answer, but they have demonstrated its not something they want to do."
Where do you get these bizarre notions from?
This is so out of touch with reality, have to question if you genuinely believe this kind of stuff. |
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"It's been rumoured to be about to collapse for years, some on here positively drool at the possibility which is a tad strange..
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Makes you wonder why we are trying to do a trade deal with a failing bloc. |
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"It's been rumoured to be about to collapse for years, some on here positively drool at the possibility which is a tad strange..
Makes you wonder why we are trying to do a trade deal with a failing bloc."
Because it’s a market nothing more |
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"It's been rumoured to be about to collapse for years, some on here positively drool at the possibility which is a tad strange..
Makes you wonder why we are trying to do a trade deal with a failing bloc.
Because it’s a market nothing more "
And for the unencumbered border free travel and right to work anywhere in Europe. Something I’ve enjoyed all my adult life and something that’s being taken away from my kids.
Yes I know we have to show our passport to get out of the UK and that won’t change. I also remember the painful queue to get from France to Spain. |
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I read the Daily Mail and see that the EU is a nasty, vindictive, self centred organisation hell bent on removing sovereignty from its members and in particular the UK.
The UK (according to the Daily Mail) has been downtrodden, its demands ignored and its laws and sovereignty rebuked.
Why just send in gunships- we should nuke them all and become the only trading entity around.
To hell with everyone else - the Daily Mail has made me realise that we can be great again, prior to WW2 (which the UK won - according to the Daily Mail) - we ruled the World. Without all those immigrants, we will once again.
I recommend you read this wonderful source and finally see the truth. |
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"I read the Daily Mail and see that the EU is a nasty, vindictive, self centred organisation hell bent on removing sovereignty from its members and in particular the UK.
The UK (according to the Daily Mail) has been downtrodden, its demands ignored and its laws and sovereignty rebuked.
Why just send in gunships- we should nuke them all and become the only trading entity around.
To hell with everyone else - the Daily Mail has made me realise that we can be great again, prior to WW2 (which the UK won - according to the Daily Mail) - we ruled the World. Without all those immigrants, we will once again.
I recommend you read this wonderful source and finally see the truth."
the good aul daily mail eh ! Your getting your daily fix of facts off snap chat so ! Won’t knock it i take wat the daily mail says !
But wats this about nuking the fuck out of them ?
Who is them ? I’m interested |
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"I read the Daily Mail and see that the EU is a nasty, vindictive, self centred organisation hell bent on removing sovereignty from its members and in particular the UK.
The UK (according to the Daily Mail) has been downtrodden, its demands ignored and its laws and sovereignty rebuked.
Why just send in gunships- we should nuke them all and become the only trading entity around.
To hell with everyone else - the Daily Mail has made me realise that we can be great again, prior to WW2 (which the UK won - according to the Daily Mail) - we ruled the World. Without all those immigrants, we will once again.
I recommend you read this wonderful source and finally see the truth. the good aul daily mail eh ! Your getting your daily fix of facts off snap chat so ! Won’t knock it i take wat the daily mail says !
But wats this about nuking the fuck out of them ?
Who is them ? I’m interested "
I'm thinking the post is slightly tongue in cheek
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"I read the Daily Mail and see that the EU is a nasty, vindictive, self centred organisation hell bent on removing sovereignty from its members and in particular the UK.
The UK (according to the Daily Mail) has been downtrodden, its demands ignored and its laws and sovereignty rebuked.
Why just send in gunships- we should nuke them all and become the only trading entity around.
To hell with everyone else - the Daily Mail has made me realise that we can be great again, prior to WW2 (which the UK won - according to the Daily Mail) - we ruled the World. Without all those immigrants, we will once again.
I recommend you read this wonderful source and finally see the truth. the good aul daily mail eh ! Your getting your daily fix of facts off snap chat so ! Won’t knock it i take wat the daily mail says !
But wats this about nuking the fuck out of them ?
Who is them ? I’m interested
I'm thinking the post is slightly tongue in cheek
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you reckon ?
Funny if it is  if not please tell us who them are ! On tender hooks here |
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