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Unfair advantage

By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

The main problem around the Brexit talks seems to be that the EU are worried that if the UK leaves without following EU rules they will have an unfair trading advantage. So the question is, if we had never joined in the first place, would we have had this advantage all along and been more successful?

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By *ssexbloke72Man over a year ago

Poplar

Interesting question indeed, why would a little insignificant country (Remainers view) like the UK have an advantage over a mighty trading block of 27 countries who all have so many common values.!

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By *ust some cock suckerMan over a year ago

Preston

The advantage lays in both of market access and free trade AND the none conformation of market rules.

The advantage lays in having all 3.

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By *ust some cock suckerMan over a year ago

Preston

Interesting question indeed, why would a little insignificant country (Remainers view) like the UK have an advantage over a mighty trading block of 27 countries who all have so many common values.!"

Just answered it

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By *ssexbloke72Man over a year ago

Poplar

Interesting question indeed, why would a little insignificant country (Remainers view) like the UK have an advantage over a mighty trading block of 27 countries who all have so many common values.!

Just answered it

You wasn't quick enough

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By *ostafunMan over a year ago

near ipswich

Beats me that if the eu thinks we are so fucked why do they want to keep talking?

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By *ust some cock suckerMan over a year ago

Preston

Interesting question indeed, why would a little insignificant country (Remainers view) like the UK have an advantage over a mighty trading block of 27 countries who all have so many common values.!

Just answered it

You wasn't quick enough

Sorry

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By *ust some cock suckerMan over a year ago

Preston

"Beats me that if the eu thinks we are so fucked why do they want to keep talking?"

Maybe they are trying to minimise the damage Brexit will inflict across the EU while negotiating the best possible outcome for the EU because they ultimately know Brexit is far far more damaging for the UK than the effects spread across 27 EU individual states.

I believe the so called unpatriotic remoaners have been explaining this since 2016 but it's always fallen on deaf ears lol

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"Beats me that if the eu thinks we are so fucked why do they want to keep talking?

I believe the so called unpatriotic remoaners have been explaining this since 2016 but it's always fallen on deaf ears lol"

If they walked away they would blame the eu

They are trying to sort a deal and its still their fault.

It's what happens when you have a gmnt which considers account ability a foreign concept.

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By *ostafunMan over a year ago

near ipswich

"Beats me that if the eu thinks we are so fucked why do they want to keep talking?

I believe the so called unpatriotic remoaners have been explaining this since 2016 but it's always fallen on deaf ears lol"
It is going to hit some countries in the eu much harder than others but they dont seem to have a voice in this.But as long as the eu comes out of it with its political ideology in tack they dont give a fuck.They will lend them more money get their countries further indebted to them until they will be so happy when germany and france propose a federal europe they will roll over.The conquest of europe without a shot fired.

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"Beats me that if the eu thinks we are so fucked why do they want to keep talking?

I believe the so called unpatriotic remoaners have been explaining this since 2016 but it's always fallen on deaf ears lolIt is going to hit some countries in the eu much harder than others but they dont seem to have a voice in this.But as long as the eu comes out of it with its political ideology in tack they dont give a fuck.They will lend them more money get their countries further indebted to them until they will be so happy when germany and france propose a federal europe they will roll over.The conquest of europe without a shot fired.

Get help

Seriously.

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By *ercuryMan over a year ago

Grantham

I saw a report last week, that a "no deal" puts 700000 jobs at risk in the EU.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I saw a report last week, that a "no deal" puts 700000 jobs at risk in the EU.

So 2,000,000 less than will be at risk in the uk then .

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"I saw a report last week, that a "no deal" puts 700000 jobs at risk in the EU.

Saw that too, given its estimated to be about a 300,000 hit here and the other costs it's simply common sense to find compromise and get a deal sorted..

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By *ebbie69Couple over a year ago

milton keynes

"Beats me that if the eu thinks we are so fucked why do they want to keep talking?"

Many said the UK would have no choice but to roll over and sign to whatever the EU demands. If that was true they would have stopped negotiations ages ago and just said take it or leave it

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By *ovebjsMan over a year ago

Bristol

"Beats me that if the eu thinks we are so fucked why do they want to keep talking?

Many said the UK would have no choice but to roll over and sign to whatever the EU demands. If that was true they would have stopped negotiations ages ago and just said take it or leave it"

Exactly this it’s always the one with the biggest stick that gets it’s own way well this time it’s not working

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"Beats me that if the eu thinks we are so fucked why do they want to keep talking?

Many said the UK would have no choice but to roll over and sign to whatever the EU demands. If that was true they would have stopped negotiations ages ago and just said take it or leave it"

I could have sworn it was the brexiteers who were crowing about how easy the deal will be.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Beats me that if the eu thinks we are so fucked why do they want to keep talking?"

I think they have now realised that we hold all the cards and they need us more than we need them

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Beats me that if the eu thinks we are so fucked why do they want to keep talking?

Many said the UK would have no choice but to roll over and sign to whatever the EU demands. If that was true they would have stopped negotiations ages ago and just said take it or leave it"

I never heard any of the leaders of the EU ever saying that ? They have always wanted to get some kind of deal

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By *ovebjsMan over a year ago

Bristol

"Beats me that if the eu thinks we are so fucked why do they want to keep talking?

Many said the UK would have no choice but to roll over and sign to whatever the EU demands. If that was true they would have stopped negotiations ages ago and just said take it or leave it

I never heard any of the leaders of the EU ever saying that ? They have always wanted to get some kind of deal"

Of corse they want some kind of deal it’s just not what the U.K. wants! Because it means following their rules even after the fact.

So if the EU changes something they expect the U.K. to follow or suffer some kind of sanctions.

So we would be no different from staying in which again is not what was voted for.

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"Beats me that if the eu thinks we are so fucked why do they want to keep talking?

Many said the UK would have no choice but to roll over and sign to whatever the EU demands. If that was true they would have stopped negotiations ages ago and just said take it or leave it

I never heard any of the leaders of the EU ever saying that ? They have always wanted to get some kind of deal

Of corse they want some kind of deal it’s just not what the U.K. wants! Because it means following their rules even after the fact.

So if the EU changes something they expect the U.K. to follow or suffer some kind of sanctions.

So we would be no different from staying in which again is not what was voted for.

Their rules that we signed up and agreed too?

So basically we should be allowed to continue to trade with the eu but not have to abide by the rules?

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"Beats me that if the eu thinks we are so fucked why do they want to keep talking?

Many said the UK would have no choice but to roll over and sign to whatever the EU demands. If that was true they would have stopped negotiations ages ago and just said take it or leave it

I never heard any of the leaders of the EU ever saying that ? They have always wanted to get some kind of deal"

They don't seem to recognise the opposite argument.

If the eu is such a burden, why are we desperate trying to get a deal?

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By *ovebjsMan over a year ago

Bristol

"Beats me that if the eu thinks we are so fucked why do they want to keep talking?

Many said the UK would have no choice but to roll over and sign to whatever the EU demands. If that was true they would have stopped negotiations ages ago and just said take it or leave it

I never heard any of the leaders of the EU ever saying that ? They have always wanted to get some kind of deal

Of corse they want some kind of deal it’s just not what the U.K. wants! Because it means following their rules even after the fact.

So if the EU changes something they expect the U.K. to follow or suffer some kind of sanctions.

So we would be no different from staying in which again is not what was voted for.

Their rules that we signed up and agreed too?

So basically we should be allowed to continue to trade with the eu but not have to abide by the rules?"

No because we are out of the club and so renegotiating a deal but the EU still want the U.K. to carry on as before which would hold the U.K. back from making a success for itself.

Even wit the argument over fishing rights is uneven and not a level field also they would stop the U.K. from being competitive in the open market place as they expect no competition from us.

Just like any big corporation they want to control the market and hold back any of independent country.

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"Beats me that if the eu thinks we are so fucked why do they want to keep talking?

Many said the UK would have no choice but to roll over and sign to whatever the EU demands. If that was true they would have stopped negotiations ages ago and just said take it or leave it

I never heard any of the leaders of the EU ever saying that ? They have always wanted to get some kind of deal

Of corse they want some kind of deal it’s just not what the U.K. wants! Because it means following their rules even after the fact.

So if the EU changes something they expect the U.K. to follow or suffer some kind of sanctions.

So we would be no different from staying in which again is not what was voted for.

Their rules that we signed up and agreed too?

So basically we should be allowed to continue to trade with the eu but not have to abide by the rules?

No because we are out of the club and so renegotiating a deal but the EU still want the U.K. to carry on as before which would hold the U.K. back from making a success for itself.

Even wit the argument over fishing rights is uneven and not a level field also they would stop the U.K. from being competitive in the open market place as they expect no competition from us.

Just like any big corporation they want to control the market and hold back any of independent country.

So post brexit we will not be doing any trade deals with europe whatsoever?

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By *ovebjsMan over a year ago

Bristol

"Beats me that if the eu thinks we are so fucked why do they want to keep talking?

Many said the UK would have no choice but to roll over and sign to whatever the EU demands. If that was true they would have stopped negotiations ages ago and just said take it or leave it

I never heard any of the leaders of the EU ever saying that ? They have always wanted to get some kind of deal

Of corse they want some kind of deal it’s just not what the U.K. wants! Because it means following their rules even after the fact.

So if the EU changes something they expect the U.K. to follow or suffer some kind of sanctions.

So we would be no different from staying in which again is not what was voted for.

Their rules that we signed up and agreed too?

So basically we should be allowed to continue to trade with the eu but not have to abide by the rules?

No because we are out of the club and so renegotiating a deal but the EU still want the U.K. to carry on as before which would hold the U.K. back from making a success for itself.

Even wit the argument over fishing rights is uneven and not a level field also they would stop the U.K. from being competitive in the open market place as they expect no competition from us.

Just like any big corporation they want to control the market and hold back any of independent country.

So post brexit we will not be doing any trade deals with europe whatsoever?"

Of core the U.K. will just not the deal they want to force the U.K. into maybe the U.K. will do a deal or it will rely on tariffs.

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By *ust some cock suckerMan over a year ago

Preston

"Beats me that if the eu thinks we are so fucked why do they want to keep talking?

That is your opinion

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Beats me that if the eu thinks we are so fucked why do they want to keep talking?

Many said the UK would have no choice but to roll over and sign to whatever the EU demands. If that was true they would have stopped negotiations ages ago and just said take it or leave it

I never heard any of the leaders of the EU ever saying that ? They have always wanted to get some kind of deal

Of corse they want some kind of deal it’s just not what the U.K. wants! Because it means following their rules even after the fact.

So if the EU changes something they expect the U.K. to follow or suffer some kind of sanctions.

So we would be no different from staying in which again is not what was voted for.

Unfortunately nobody can be sure what was voted for because there are so many different versions of Brexit . Some brexiteers claim a no deal is the best option, others what a Canada deal etc etc

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By *ostafunMan over a year ago

near ipswich

"Beats me that if the eu thinks we are so fucked why do they want to keep talking?

That is your opinion

"
What other explanation is there for creating presidents a parliament and judiciary? it certainly isn't just to trade as the rest of the world manage perfectly well to trad without any of those.

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"Beats me that if the eu thinks we are so fucked why do they want to keep talking?

Many said the UK would have no choice but to roll over and sign to whatever the EU demands. If that was true they would have stopped negotiations ages ago and just said take it or leave it

I never heard any of the leaders of the EU ever saying that ? They have always wanted to get some kind of deal

Of corse they want some kind of deal it’s just not what the U.K. wants! Because it means following their rules even after the fact.

So if the EU changes something they expect the U.K. to follow or suffer some kind of sanctions.

So we would be no different from staying in which again is not what was voted for.

Their rules that we signed up and agreed too?

So basically we should be allowed to continue to trade with the eu but not have to abide by the rules?

No because we are out of the club and so renegotiating a deal but the EU still want the U.K. to carry on as before which would hold the U.K. back from making a success for itself.

Even wit the argument over fishing rights is uneven and not a level field also they would stop the U.K. from being competitive in the open market place as they expect no competition from us.

Just like any big corporation they want to control the market and hold back any of independent country.

So post brexit we will not be doing any trade deals with europe whatsoever?

Of core the U.K. will just not the deal they want to force the U.K. into maybe the U.K. will do a deal or it will rely on tariffs.

So once again..you expect us to be able to trade with europe..but not be subject to their regulations.

I think I can spot a tiny flaw in that plan?

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"Beats me that if the eu thinks we are so fucked why do they want to keep talking?

That is your opinion

What other explanation is there for creating presidents a parliament and judiciary? it certainly isn't just to trade as the rest of the world manage perfectly well to trad without any of those.

Thise pesky court of human rights

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Beats me that if the eu thinks we are so fucked why do they want to keep talking?

Many said the UK would have no choice but to roll over and sign to whatever the EU demands. If that was true they would have stopped negotiations ages ago and just said take it or leave it

I never heard any of the leaders of the EU ever saying that ? They have always wanted to get some kind of deal

Of corse they want some kind of deal it’s just not what the U.K. wants! Because it means following their rules even after the fact.

So if the EU changes something they expect the U.K. to follow or suffer some kind of sanctions.

So we would be no different from staying in which again is not what was voted for.

Their rules that we signed up and agreed too?

So basically we should be allowed to continue to trade with the eu but not have to abide by the rules?

No because we are out of the club and so renegotiating a deal but the EU still want the U.K. to carry on as before which would hold the U.K. back from making a success for itself.

Even wit the argument over fishing rights is uneven and not a level field also they would stop the U.K. from being competitive in the open market place as they expect no competition from us.

Just like any big corporation they want to control the market and hold back any of independent country.

So post brexit we will not be doing any trade deals with europe whatsoever?

Of core the U.K. will just not the deal they want to force the U.K. into maybe the U.K. will do a deal or it will rely on tariffs.

So once again..you expect us to be able to trade with europe..but not be subject to their regulations.

I think I can spot a tiny flaw in that plan?"

What flaw? Who else follows 'their' regulations?

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

Still in sure we can dispense those human rights now..I mean who needs them?

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By *ostafunMan over a year ago

near ipswich

"Beats me that if the eu thinks we are so fucked why do they want to keep talking?

Many said the UK would have no choice but to roll over and sign to whatever the EU demands. If that was true they would have stopped negotiations ages ago and just said take it or leave it

I never heard any of the leaders of the EU ever saying that ? They have always wanted to get some kind of deal

Of corse they want some kind of deal it’s just not what the U.K. wants! Because it means following their rules even after the fact.

So if the EU changes something they expect the U.K. to follow or suffer some kind of sanctions.

So we would be no different from staying in which again is not what was voted for.

Their rules that we signed up and agreed too?

So basically we should be allowed to continue to trade with the eu but not have to abide by the rules?

No because we are out of the club and so renegotiating a deal but the EU still want the U.K. to carry on as before which would hold the U.K. back from making a success for itself.

Even wit the argument over fishing rights is uneven and not a level field also they would stop the U.K. from being competitive in the open market place as they expect no competition from us.

Just like any big corporation they want to control the market and hold back any of independent country.

So post brexit we will not be doing any trade deals with europe whatsoever?

Of core the U.K. will just not the deal they want to force the U.K. into maybe the U.K. will do a deal or it will rely on tariffs.

So once again..you expect us to be able to trade with europe..but not be subject to their regulations.

I think I can spot a tiny flaw in that plan?

What flaw? Who else follows 'their' regulations? "
No one else has to apparently because they are not on their doorstep.Once you are out of an imaginary eu line (nobody knows where it is ) you dont have to.

ffs you couldnt make it up.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Beats me that if the eu thinks we are so fucked why do they want to keep talking?

That is your opinion

What other explanation is there for creating presidents a parliament and judiciary? it certainly isn't just to trade as the rest of the world manage perfectly well to trad without any of those.

Thise pesky court of human rights "

What’s the ECHR got to do with the EU?

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"Beats me that if the eu thinks we are so fucked why do they want to keep talking?

That is your opinion

What other explanation is there for creating presidents a parliament and judiciary? it certainly isn't just to trade as the rest of the world manage perfectly well to trad without any of those.

Thise pesky court of human rights

What’s the ECHR got to do with the EU? "

I'm assuming that's what Costa mean when he talked about the EU judiciary?

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By *ostafunMan over a year ago

near ipswich

"Beats me that if the eu thinks we are so fucked why do they want to keep talking?

That is your opinion

What other explanation is there for creating presidents a parliament and judiciary? it certainly isn't just to trade as the rest of the world manage perfectly well to trad without any of those.

Thise pesky court of human rights

What’s the ECHR got to do with the EU? "
Dont you know he gets confused.

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By *ostafunMan over a year ago

near ipswich

"Beats me that if the eu thinks we are so fucked why do they want to keep talking?

That is your opinion

What other explanation is there for creating presidents a parliament and judiciary? it certainly isn't just to trade as the rest of the world manage perfectly well to trad without any of those.

Thise pesky court of human rights

What’s the ECHR got to do with the EU?

I'm assuming that's what Costa mean when he talked about the EU judiciary?"
you assumed wrong again.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Beats me that if the eu thinks we are so fucked why do they want to keep talking?

That is your opinion

What other explanation is there for creating presidents a parliament and judiciary? it certainly isn't just to trade as the rest of the world manage perfectly well to trad without any of those.

Thise pesky court of human rights

What’s the ECHR got to do with the EU?

I'm assuming that's what Costa mean when he talked about the EU judiciary?"

I'm assuming that would be the ECJ

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By *ostafunMan over a year ago

near ipswich

"Beats me that if the eu thinks we are so fucked why do they want to keep talking?

That is your opinion

What other explanation is there for creating presidents a parliament and judiciary? it certainly isn't just to trade as the rest of the world manage perfectly well to trad without any of those.

Thise pesky court of human rights

What’s the ECHR got to do with the EU?

I'm assuming that's what Costa mean when he talked about the EU judiciary?

I'm assuming that would be the ECJ

"
correct 10 points to you.

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"Beats me that if the eu thinks we are so fucked why do they want to keep talking?

That is your opinion

What other explanation is there for creating presidents a parliament and judiciary? it certainly isn't just to trade as the rest of the world manage perfectly well to trad without any of those.

Thise pesky court of human rights

What’s the ECHR got to do with the EU?

I'm assuming that's what Costa mean when he talked about the EU judiciary?

I'm assuming that would be the ECJ

So we are staying in the ecj?

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"Beats me that if the eu thinks we are so fucked why do they want to keep talking?

That is your opinion

What other explanation is there for creating presidents a parliament and judiciary? it certainly isn't just to trade as the rest of the world manage perfectly well to trad without any of those.

Thise pesky court of human rights

What’s the ECHR got to do with the EU?

I'm assuming that's what Costa mean when he talked about the EU judiciary?

I'm assuming that would be the ECJ

correct 10 points to you."

So you dont have an issue with the ecj?

That's nothing to do with the eu judiciary?

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By *ostafunMan over a year ago

near ipswich

"Beats me that if the eu thinks we are so fucked why do they want to keep talking?

That is your opinion

What other explanation is there for creating presidents a parliament and judiciary? it certainly isn't just to trade as the rest of the world manage perfectly well to trad without any of those.

Thise pesky court of human rights

What’s the ECHR got to do with the EU?

I'm assuming that's what Costa mean when he talked about the EU judiciary?

I'm assuming that would be the ECJ

correct 10 points to you.

So you dont have an issue with the ecj?

That's nothing to do with the eu judiciary?"
Are you d*unk ? read what i wrote and answer me why if they are not trying to create a federal state we need any of them.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

They do not want the Uk to do well once we have left the EU because they know others will want to follow suit and vote out too. They will be hit equally hard, Germany for instance if they can no longer sell all their cars here ( we buy more than any other nation). The French and Dutch fishing industry will be screwed. If we had had a PM who hadn’t taken no deal off the table like May did at the beginning then a decent deal would have been done by now. She took off our only bargaining tool. They believed they could bully us into whatever they wanted us to do. Now they are thinking we may actually walk without a deal things have changed.

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"Beats me that if the eu thinks we are so fucked why do they want to keep talking?

That is your opinion

What other explanation is there for creating presidents a parliament and judiciary? it certainly isn't just to trade as the rest of the world manage perfectly well to trad without any of those.

Thise pesky court of human rights

What’s the ECHR got to do with the EU?

I'm assuming that's what Costa mean when he talked about the EU judiciary?

I'm assuming that would be the ECJ

correct 10 points to you.

So you dont have an issue with the ecj?

That's nothing to do with the eu judiciary?Are you d*unk ? read what i wrote and answer me why if they are not trying to create a federal state we need any of them."

You said they were creating their own judiciary

I simply asked you to clarify this point.

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By *ostafunMan over a year ago

near ipswich

"Beats me that if the eu thinks we are so fucked why do they want to keep talking?

That is your opinion

What other explanation is there for creating presidents a parliament and judiciary? it certainly isn't just to trade as the rest of the world manage perfectly well to trad without any of those.

Thise pesky court of human rights

What’s the ECHR got to do with the EU?

I'm assuming that's what Costa mean when he talked about the EU judiciary?

I'm assuming that would be the ECJ

correct 10 points to you.

So you dont have an issue with the ecj?

That's nothing to do with the eu judiciary?Are you d*unk ? read what i wrote and answer me why if they are not trying to create a federal state we need any of them.

You said they were creating their own judiciary

I simply asked you to clarify this point."
who created the ecj , who pays for it?

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"They do not want the Uk to do well once we have left the EU because they know others will want to follow suit and vote out too. They will be hit equally hard, Germany for instance if they can no longer sell all their cars here ( we buy more than any other nation). The French and Dutch fishing industry will be screwed. If we had had a PM who hadn’t taken no deal off the table like May did at the beginning then a decent deal would have been done by now. She took off our only bargaining tool. They believed they could bully us into whatever they wanted us to do. Now they are thinking we may actually walk without a deal things have changed. "

Where exactly did you get this information from?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The EU can do whatever they like in order to protect their member states, the UK can do whatever it likes if they leave with a no deal , it really is that simple . The EU will survive , the UK will survive, both will be weaker, but I guess that is the price to pay for you voting to leave

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"Beats me that if the eu thinks we are so fucked why do they want to keep talking?

That is your opinion

What other explanation is there for creating presidents a parliament and judiciary? it certainly isn't just to trade as the rest of the world manage perfectly well to trad without any of those.

Thise pesky court of human rights

What’s the ECHR got to do with the EU?

I'm assuming that's what Costa mean when he talked about the EU judiciary?

I'm assuming that would be the ECJ

correct 10 points to you.

So you dont have an issue with the ecj?

That's nothing to do with the eu judiciary?Are you d*unk ? read what i wrote and answer me why if they are not trying to create a federal state we need any of them.

You said they were creating their own judiciary

I simply asked you to clarify this point.who created the ecj , who pays for it?"

Right..so I ask you a to clarify something and you ask me two questions?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

So we are going to get a great deal then? The EU are going to buckle and meet our demands?

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By *ostafunMan over a year ago

near ipswich

"Beats me that if the eu thinks we are so fucked why do they want to keep talking?

That is your opinion

What other explanation is there for creating presidents a parliament and judiciary? it certainly isn't just to trade as the rest of the world manage perfectly well to trad without any of those.

Thise pesky court of human rights

What’s the ECHR got to do with the EU?

I'm assuming that's what Costa mean when he talked about the EU judiciary?

I'm assuming that would be the ECJ

correct 10 points to you.

So you dont have an issue with the ecj?

That's nothing to do with the eu judiciary?Are you d*unk ? read what i wrote and answer me why if they are not trying to create a federal state we need any of them.

You said they were creating their own judiciary

I simply asked you to clarify this point."
So you dont disagree they are trying to create a federal europe its just the ecj you disagree with.

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"Beats me that if the eu thinks we are so fucked why do they want to keep talking?

That is your opinion

What other explanation is there for creating presidents a parliament and judiciary? it certainly isn't just to trade as the rest of the world manage perfectly well to trad without any of those.

Thise pesky court of human rights

What’s the ECHR got to do with the EU?

I'm assuming that's what Costa mean when he talked about the EU judiciary?

I'm assuming that would be the ECJ

correct 10 points to you.

So you dont have an issue with the ecj?

That's nothing to do with the eu judiciary?Are you d*unk ? read what i wrote and answer me why if they are not trying to create a federal state we need any of them.

You said they were creating their own judiciary

I simply asked you to clarify this point.So you dont disagree they are trying to create a federal europe its just the ecj you disagree with."

You seem to be evading this issue around the judiciary?

You think have a European court of justice is a bad thing?

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By *ostafunMan over a year ago

near ipswich

"Beats me that if the eu thinks we are so fucked why do they want to keep talking?

That is your opinion

What other explanation is there for creating presidents a parliament and judiciary? it certainly isn't just to trade as the rest of the world manage perfectly well to trad without any of those.

Thise pesky court of human rights

What’s the ECHR got to do with the EU?

I'm assuming that's what Costa mean when he talked about the EU judiciary?

I'm assuming that would be the ECJ

correct 10 points to you.

So you dont have an issue with the ecj?

That's nothing to do with the eu judiciary?Are you d*unk ? read what i wrote and answer me why if they are not trying to create a federal state we need any of them.

You said they were creating their own judiciary

I simply asked you to clarify this point.who created the ecj , who pays for it?

Right..so I ask you a to clarify something and you ask me two questions?"
if you can answer the questions in your head you will then have the answer.

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By *ostafunMan over a year ago

near ipswich

"Beats me that if the eu thinks we are so fucked why do they want to keep talking?

That is your opinion

What other explanation is there for creating presidents a parliament and judiciary? it certainly isn't just to trade as the rest of the world manage perfectly well to trad without any of those.

Thise pesky court of human rights

What’s the ECHR got to do with the EU?

I'm assuming that's what Costa mean when he talked about the EU judiciary?

I'm assuming that would be the ECJ

correct 10 points to you.

So you dont have an issue with the ecj?

That's nothing to do with the eu judiciary?Are you d*unk ? read what i wrote and answer me why if they are not trying to create a federal state we need any of them.

You said they were creating their own judiciary

I simply asked you to clarify this point.So you dont disagree they are trying to create a federal europe its just the ecj you disagree with.

You seem to be evading this issue around the judiciary?

You think have a European court of justice is a bad thing?"
No im not saying that at all its necessary in a fedral europe that is my point.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

No I think there will be no deal now. I hope there is not now. I wanted one in the beginning but not now not at this stage. It will Be bumpy road initially but We will be fine

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"Beats me that if the eu thinks we are so fucked why do they want to keep talking?

That is your opinion

What other explanation is there for creating presidents a parliament and judiciary? it certainly isn't just to trade as the rest of the world manage perfectly well to trad without any of those.

Thise pesky court of human rights

What’s the ECHR got to do with the EU?

I'm assuming that's what Costa mean when he talked about the EU judiciary?

I'm assuming that would be the ECJ

correct 10 points to you.

So you dont have an issue with the ecj?

That's nothing to do with the eu judiciary?Are you d*unk ? read what i wrote and answer me why if they are not trying to create a federal state we need any of them.

You said they were creating their own judiciary

I simply asked you to clarify this point.So you dont disagree they are trying to create a federal europe its just the ecj you disagree with.

You seem to be evading this issue around the judiciary?

You think have a European court of justice is a bad thing?No im not saying that at all its necessary in a fedral europe that is my point."

Is the eu a federal state now?

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By *ostafunMan over a year ago

near ipswich

"Beats me that if the eu thinks we are so fucked why do they want to keep talking?

That is your opinion

What other explanation is there for creating presidents a parliament and judiciary? it certainly isn't just to trade as the rest of the world manage perfectly well to trad without any of those.

Thise pesky court of human rights

What’s the ECHR got to do with the EU?

I'm assuming that's what Costa mean when he talked about the EU judiciary?

I'm assuming that would be the ECJ

correct 10 points to you.

So you dont have an issue with the ecj?

That's nothing to do with the eu judiciary?Are you d*unk ? read what i wrote and answer me why if they are not trying to create a federal state we need any of them.

You said they were creating their own judiciary

I simply asked you to clarify this point.So you dont disagree they are trying to create a federal europe its just the ecj you disagree with.

You seem to be evading this issue around the judiciary?

You think have a European court of justice is a bad thing?No im not saying that at all its necessary in a fedral europe that is my point.

Is the eu a federal state now?"
ffs read what i wrote

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"Beats me that if the eu thinks we are so fucked why do they want to keep talking?

That is your opinion

What other explanation is there for creating presidents a parliament and judiciary? it certainly isn't just to trade as the rest of the world manage perfectly well to trad without any of those.

Thise pesky court of human rights

What’s the ECHR got to do with the EU?

I'm assuming that's what Costa mean when he talked about the EU judiciary?

I'm assuming that would be the ECJ

correct 10 points to you.

So you dont have an issue with the ecj?

That's nothing to do with the eu judiciary?Are you d*unk ? read what i wrote and answer me why if they are not trying to create a federal state we need any of them.

You said they were creating their own judiciary

I simply asked you to clarify this point.So you dont disagree they are trying to create a federal europe its just the ecj you disagree with.

You seem to be evading this issue around the judiciary?

You think have a European court of justice is a bad thing?No im not saying that at all its necessary in a fedral europe that is my point.

Is the eu a federal state now?ffs read what i wrote "

Which bit..the bit about Germany and France conquering Europe?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"No I think there will be no deal now. I hope there is not now. I wanted one in the beginning but not now not at this stage. It will Be bumpy road initially but We will be fine"

I think you will be right. I don’t understand why Brexit voters want a deal with the EU anyway, the only ‘true Brexit ‘ is a no deal ,

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By *ostafunMan over a year ago

near ipswich

"Beats me that if the eu thinks we are so fucked why do they want to keep talking?

That is your opinion

What other explanation is there for creating presidents a parliament and judiciary? it certainly isn't just to trade as the rest of the world manage perfectly well to trad without any of those.

Thise pesky court of human rights

What’s the ECHR got to do with the EU?

I'm assuming that's what Costa mean when he talked about the EU judiciary?

I'm assuming that would be the ECJ

correct 10 points to you.

So you dont have an issue with the ecj?

That's nothing to do with the eu judiciary?Are you d*unk ? read what i wrote and answer me why if they are not trying to create a federal state we need any of them.

You said they were creating their own judiciary

I simply asked you to clarify this point.So you dont disagree they are trying to create a federal europe its just the ecj you disagree with.

You seem to be evading this issue around the judiciary?

You think have a European court of justice is a bad thing?No im not saying that at all its necessary in a fedral europe that is my point.

Is the eu a federal state now?ffs read what i wrote

Which bit..the bit about Germany and France conquering Europe?"
no What other explanation is there for creating presidents a parliament and judiciary? it certainly isn't just to trade as the rest of the world manage perfectly well to trad without any of those. Care to answer that?

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"Beats me that if the eu thinks we are so fucked why do they want to keep talking?

That is your opinion

What other explanation is there for creating presidents a parliament and judiciary? it certainly isn't just to trade as the rest of the world manage perfectly well to trad without any of those.

Thise pesky court of human rights

What’s the ECHR got to do with the EU?

I'm assuming that's what Costa mean when he talked about the EU judiciary?

I'm assuming that would be the ECJ

correct 10 points to you.

So you dont have an issue with the ecj?

That's nothing to do with the eu judiciary?Are you d*unk ? read what i wrote and answer me why if they are not trying to create a federal state we need any of them.

You said they were creating their own judiciary

I simply asked you to clarify this point.So you dont disagree they are trying to create a federal europe its just the ecj you disagree with.

You seem to be evading this issue around the judiciary?

You think have a European court of justice is a bad thing?No im not saying that at all its necessary in a fedral europe that is my point.

Is the eu a federal state now?ffs read what i wrote

Which bit..the bit about Germany and France conquering Europe?no What other explanation is there for creating presidents a parliament and judiciary? it certainly isn't just to trade as the rest of the world manage perfectly well to trad without any of those. Care to answer that?"

Surely if you have a collection of 27 countries you need some sort of political process?

Because I'm guessing if you dont brexiteers will be screaming about a dictatorship.

As for the judiciary..as far as I'm aware we still make our own laws in this country and have our own courts etc.

You seem to not have a problem with the ecj protecting peoples human rights.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Yeahs defo initially I think I may have wanted to see what they were offering but not now. Out and get on with it

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By *ostafunMan over a year ago

near ipswich

"Beats me that if the eu thinks we are so fucked why do they want to keep talking?

That is your opinion

What other explanation is there for creating presidents a parliament and judiciary? it certainly isn't just to trade as the rest of the world manage perfectly well to trad without any of those.

Thise pesky court of human rights

What’s the ECHR got to do with the EU?

I'm assuming that's what Costa mean when he talked about the EU judiciary?

I'm assuming that would be the ECJ

correct 10 points to you.

So you dont have an issue with the ecj?

That's nothing to do with the eu judiciary?Are you d*unk ? read what i wrote and answer me why if they are not trying to create a federal state we need any of them.

You said they were creating their own judiciary

I simply asked you to clarify this point.So you dont disagree they are trying to create a federal europe its just the ecj you disagree with.

You seem to be evading this issue around the judiciary?

You think have a European court of justice is a bad thing?No im not saying that at all its necessary in a fedral europe that is my point.

Is the eu a federal state now?ffs read what i wrote

Surely if you have a collection of 27 countries you need some sort of political process?

Because I'm guessing if you dont brexiteers will be screaming about a dictatorship.

As for the judiciary..as far as I'm aware we still make our own laws in this country and have our own courts etc.

You seem to not have a problem with the ecj protecting peoples human rights."
so why does every other country outside the eu manage to have trade deals but dont need all that baggage? .I will answer that for you because they just want to trade nothing else and it seems to work perfectly well.

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By *ostafunMan over a year ago

near ipswich

the ecj doesnt protect peoples human rights thats echr .

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By *ust some cock suckerMan over a year ago

Preston

"Beats me that if the eu thinks we are so fucked why do they want to keep talking?

I believe the so called unpatriotic remoaners have been explaining this since 2016 but it's always fallen on deaf ears lol

It is going to hit some countries in the eu much harder than others but they dont seem to have a voice in this.But as long as the eu comes out of it with its political ideology in tack they dont give a fuck.They will lend them more money get their countries further indebted to them until they will be so happy when germany and france propose a federal europe they will roll over.The conquest of europe without a shot fired.

That is your opinion

What other explanation is there for creating presidents a parliament and judiciary? it certainly isn't just to trade as the rest of the world manage perfectly well to trad without any of those.

We all know it's more than just trade, it always has been and you don't need to act as if no-one knows and your the only one to break the news lol

The methods and rationale are of course just your opinions.

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"Beats me that if the eu thinks we are so fucked why do they want to keep talking?

That is your opinion

What other explanation is there for creating presidents a parliament and judiciary? it certainly isn't just to trade as the rest of the world manage perfectly well to trad without any of those.

Thise pesky court of human rights

What’s the ECHR got to do with the EU?

I'm assuming that's what Costa mean when he talked about the EU judiciary?

I'm assuming that would be the ECJ

correct 10 points to you.

So you dont have an issue with the ecj?

That's nothing to do with the eu judiciary?Are you d*unk ? read what i wrote and answer me why if they are not trying to create a federal state we need any of them.

You said they were creating their own judiciary

I simply asked you to clarify this point.So you dont disagree they are trying to create a federal europe its just the ecj you disagree with.

You seem to be evading this issue around the judiciary?

You think have a European court of justice is a bad thing?No im not saying that at all its necessary in a fedral europe that is my point.

Is the eu a federal state now?ffs read what i wrote

Surely if you have a collection of 27 countries you need some sort of political process?

Because I'm guessing if you dont brexiteers will be screaming about a dictatorship.

As for the judiciary..as far as I'm aware we still make our own laws in this country and have our own courts etc.

You seem to not have a problem with the ecj protecting peoples human rights.so why does every other country outside the eu manage to have trade deals but dont need all that baggage? .I will answer that for you because they just want to trade nothing else and it seems to work perfectly well."

So a trade block which contains 27 countries..with more wanting to join

And has been in existence for over 40 years..is..according to you.. a failure.?

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

What is your opinion of this?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-england-cornwall-55279468

How exactly will the people of Cornwall be better off?

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By *ust some cock suckerMan over a year ago

Preston

"Beats me that if the eu thinks we are so fucked why do they want to keep talking?

That is your opinion

What other explanation is there for creating presidents a parliament and judiciary? it certainly isn't just to trade as the rest of the world manage perfectly well to trad without any of those.

Thise pesky court of human rights

What’s the ECHR got to do with the EU?

I'm assuming that's what Costa mean when he talked about the EU judiciary?

I'm assuming that would be the ECJ

correct 10 points to you.

So you dont have an issue with the ecj?

That's nothing to do with the eu judiciary?Are you d*unk ? read what i wrote and answer me why if they are not trying to create a federal state we need any of them.

You said they were creating their own judiciary

I simply asked you to clarify this point.So you dont disagree they are trying to create a federal europe its just the ecj you disagree with.

You seem to be evading this issue around the judiciary?

You think have a European court of justice is a bad thing?No im not saying that at all its necessary in a fedral europe that is my point.

Is the eu a federal state now?

ffs read what i wrote "

Nigel Farage has really done a scare job on you mate

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By *ssexbloke72Man over a year ago

Poplar

"Beats me that if the eu thinks we are so fucked why do they want to keep talking?

That is your opinion

What other explanation is there for creating presidents a parliament and judiciary? it certainly isn't just to trade as the rest of the world manage perfectly well to trad without any of those.

Thise pesky court of human rights

What’s the ECHR got to do with the EU?

I'm assuming that's what Costa mean when he talked about the EU judiciary?

I'm assuming that would be the ECJ

correct 10 points to you.

So you dont have an issue with the ecj?

That's nothing to do with the eu judiciary?Are you d*unk ? read what i wrote and answer me why if they are not trying to create a federal state we need any of them.

You said they were creating their own judiciary

I simply asked you to clarify this point.So you dont disagree they are trying to create a federal europe its just the ecj you disagree with.

You seem to be evading this issue around the judiciary?

You think have a European court of justice is a bad thing?No im not saying that at all its necessary in a fedral europe that is my point.

Is the eu a federal state now?ffs read what i wrote

Surely if you have a collection of 27 countries you need some sort of political process?

Because I'm guessing if you dont brexiteers will be screaming about a dictatorship.

As for the judiciary..as far as I'm aware we still make our own laws in this country and have our own courts etc.

So a trade block which contains 27 countries..with more wanting to join

And has been in existence for over 40 years..is..according to you.. a failure.?"

Taps fingers!

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By *ostafunMan over a year ago

near ipswich

"Beats me that if the eu thinks we are so fucked why do they want to keep talking?

I believe the so called unpatriotic remoaners have been explaining this since 2016 but it's always fallen on deaf ears lol

That is your opinion

What other explanation is there for creating presidents a parliament and judiciary? it certainly isn't just to trade as the rest of the world manage perfectly well to trad without any of those.

We all know it's more than just trade, it always has been and you don't need to act as if no-one knows and your the only one to break the news lol

The methods and rationale are of course just your opinions. "
Of course they are my opinions nothing more but just wait now the uk has left a european army will be the next proposal.Macron is already making noises in that direction saying the eu cannot rely on the usa anymore.

As france is now the biggest military power in the eu he will be wanting the eu to pay their way,so the next step is an eu army where all the countries commit a % of gdp to it .Just my opinion but watch this space.

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By *ostafunMan over a year ago

near ipswich

"Beats me that if the eu thinks we are so fucked why do they want to keep talking?

That is your opinion

What other explanation is there for creating presidents a parliament and judiciary? it certainly isn't just to trade as the rest of the world manage perfectly well to trad without any of those.

Thise pesky court of human rights

What’s the ECHR got to do with the EU?

I'm assuming that's what Costa mean when he talked about the EU judiciary?

I'm assuming that would be the ECJ

correct 10 points to you.

So you dont have an issue with the ecj?

That's nothing to do with the eu judiciary?Are you d*unk ? read what i wrote and answer me why if they are not trying to create a federal state we need any of them.

You said they were creating their own judiciary

I simply asked you to clarify this point.So you dont disagree they are trying to create a federal europe its just the ecj you disagree with.

You seem to be evading this issue around the judiciary?

You think have a European court of justice is a bad thing?No im not saying that at all its necessary in a fedral europe that is my point.

Is the eu a federal state now?

ffs read what i wrote

Nigel Farage has really done a scare job on you mate

"
I dont need farage mate i have a brain for myself.

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5078157/amp/EU-army-moves-step-closer-23-nations-sign-pact.html

Gospel

Obvs

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By *ostafunMan over a year ago

near ipswich

"https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5078157/amp/EU-army-moves-step-closer-23-nations-sign-pact.html

Gospel

Obvs "
Try you favourite source

Merkel joins Macron in calling for a 'real, true European army ...

www.theguardian.com › world › nov › merkel-joins-m...

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5078157/amp/EU-army-moves-step-closer-23-nations-sign-pact.html

Gospel

Obvs Try you favourite source

Merkel joins Macron in calling for a 'real, true European army ...

www.theguardian.com › world › nov › merkel-joins-m...

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5078157/amp/EU-army-moves-step-closer-23-nations-sign-pact.html

Gospel

Obvs Try you favourite source

Merkel joins Macron in calling for a 'real, true European army ...

www.theguardian.com › world › nov › merkel-joins-m...

I thought it wasnt a reliable source?

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By *ostafunMan over a year ago

near ipswich

"https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5078157/amp/EU-army-moves-step-closer-23-nations-sign-pact.html

Gospel

Obvs Try you favourite source

Merkel joins Macron in calling for a 'real, true European army ...

www.theguardian.com › world › nov › merkel-joins-m...

"
So you agree then thats the next step.

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By *ssexbloke72Man over a year ago

Poplar

"https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5078157/amp/EU-army-moves-step-closer-23-nations-sign-pact.html

Gospel

Obvs "

For someone who says he doesn't read the mail you seem very good at finding links to use.

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By *ovebjsMan over a year ago

Bristol

"Beats me that if the eu thinks we are so fucked why do they want to keep talking?

Many said the UK would have no choice but to roll over and sign to whatever the EU demands. If that was true they would have stopped negotiations ages ago and just said take it or leave it

I never heard any of the leaders of the EU ever saying that ? They have always wanted to get some kind of deal

Of corse they want some kind of deal it’s just not what the U.K. wants! Because it means following their rules even after the fact.

So if the EU changes something they expect the U.K. to follow or suffer some kind of sanctions.

So we would be no different from staying in which again is not what was voted for.

Their rules that we signed up and agreed too?

So basically we should be allowed to continue to trade with the eu but not have to abide by the rules?

No because we are out of the club and so renegotiating a deal but the EU still want the U.K. to carry on as before which would hold the U.K. back from making a success for itself.

Even wit the argument over fishing rights is uneven and not a level field also they would stop the U.K. from being competitive in the open market place as they expect no competition from us.

Just like any big corporation they want to control the market and hold back any of independent country.

So post brexit we will not be doing any trade deals with europe whatsoever?

Of core the U.K. will just not the deal they want to force the U.K. into maybe the U.K. will do a deal or it will rely on tariffs.

So once again..you expect us to be able to trade with europe..but not be subject to their regulations.

I think I can spot a tiny flaw in that plan?"

No flaw they either deal with us or they don’t if not then we just look elsewhere and spend U.K. money in other countries

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By *ostafunMan over a year ago

near ipswich

But you can see them both making speeches on you tube if you want straight from the horses mouth.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Why are Brexit voters so concerned about getting a deal with the EU? Surely the best option is a no deal, I haven’t got a clue why Boris (we hold all the cards, they need us more than we need them ) hasn’t just walked away, what is to gained by getting a deal ?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"But you can see them both making speeches on you tube if you want straight from the horses mouth.

I saw a talking dog on YouTube, it was amazing, not sure it was real though

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By *ovebjsMan over a year ago

Bristol

"Why are Brexit voters so concerned about getting a deal with the EU? Surely the best option is a no deal, I haven’t got a clue why Boris (we hold all the cards, they need us more than we need them ) hasn’t just walked away, what is to gained by getting a deal ? "

It’s just another finger in the pie, they would prefer some kind of deal but if the EU want too much for the deal then we look elsewhere

It’s plain to see the EU want too much so we will probably walk away

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By *ostafunMan over a year ago

near ipswich

"But you can see them both making speeches on you tube if you want straight from the horses mouth.

I saw a talking dog on YouTube, it was amazing, not sure it was real though

"
so someone has posed as them and the world media has fallen for it ,are you one of these covid conspiracy theory believer too.

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5078157/amp/EU-army-moves-step-closer-23-nations-sign-pact.html

Gospel

Obvs Try you favourite source

Merkel joins Macron in calling for a 'real, true European army ...

www.theguardian.com › world › nov › merkel-joins-m...

So you agree then thats the next step."

Ive no idea.

What I do know that the eu has brought peace to eurpe for the first time in centuries.

A fact brexiteers conveniently seem to overlook

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By *ostafunMan over a year ago

near ipswich

Anyway shouldn't all you worried remainers be out panic buying like the other idiots before the 31st instead of being on here.

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

It’s just another finger in the pie, they would prefer some kind of deal but if the EU want too much for the deal then we look elsewhere

It’s plain to see the EU want too much so we will probably walk away "

I find it hilrous that every tiny thing is The EU'sfault..they are bullying us.. they want too much..we want out sovereignty.

The fact that we have a pm who literally makes it up as he goes along and lies through his teeth on a daily basis.. is presumably of no consequence.

It's almost like people believe what they read in the right wing rags

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"Anyway shouldn't all you worried remainers be out panic buying like the other idiots before the 31st instead of being on here."

Tried..I need to get the popcorn in whilst I watch boris try to worm himself of his latest disaster.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Anyway shouldn't all you worried remainers be out panic buying like the other idiots before the 31st instead of being on here."

Why, what is happening on the 31st?

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By *ssexbloke72Man over a year ago

Poplar

"https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5078157/amp/EU-army-moves-step-closer-23-nations-sign-pact.html

Gospel

Obvs Try you favourite source

Merkel joins Macron in calling for a 'real, true European army ...

www.theguardian.com › world › nov › merkel-joins-m...

So you agree then thats the next step.

Ive no idea.

What I do know that the eu has brought peace to eurpe for the first time in centuries.

A fact brexiteers conveniently seem to overlook

Tell that to the people of Kosovo.

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5078157/amp/EU-army-moves-step-closer-23-nations-sign-pact.html

Gospel

Obvs Try you favourite source

Merkel joins Macron in calling for a 'real, true European army ...

www.theguardian.com › world › nov › merkel-joins-m...

So you agree then thats the next step.

Ive no idea.

What I do know that the eu has brought peace to eurpe for the first time in centuries.

A fact brexiteers conveniently seem to overlook

Tell that to the people of Kosovo."

And when did they join the eu again?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5078157/amp/EU-army-moves-step-closer-23-nations-sign-pact.html

Gospel

Obvs Try you favourite source

Merkel joins Macron in calling for a 'real, true European army ...

www.theguardian.com › world › nov › merkel-joins-m...

So you agree then thats the next step.

Ive no idea.

What I do know that the eu has brought peace to eurpe for the first time in centuries.

A fact brexiteers conveniently seem to overlook

Tell that to the people of Kosovo."

They are trying to join the EU at the moment doesn't look like they blame the EU!

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By *ovebjsMan over a year ago

Bristol

It’s just another finger in the pie, they would prefer some kind of deal but if the EU want too much for the deal then we look elsewhere

It’s plain to see the EU want too much so we will probably walk away

I find it hilrous that every tiny thing is The EU'sfault..they are bullying us.. they want too much..we want out sovereignty.

The fact that we have a pm who literally makes it up as he goes along and lies through his teeth on a daily basis.. is presumably of no consequence.

It's almost like people believe what they read in the right wing rags"

Where have I said the EU is bullying us ? I have just said they are asking too much for us to have any kind of deal so as I would in real life just walk away and look elsewhere.

I’m self employed and work on price so if the customer wants to pay less I don’t deal wit them simple

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It’s just another finger in the pie, they would prefer some kind of deal but if the EU want too much for the deal then we look elsewhere

It’s plain to see the EU want too much so we will probably walk away

I find it hilrous that every tiny thing is The EU'sfault..they are bullying us.. they want too much..we want out sovereignty.

The fact that we have a pm who literally makes it up as he goes along and lies through his teeth on a daily basis.. is presumably of no consequence.

It's almost like people believe what they read in the right wing rags

Where have I said the EU is bullying us ? I have just said they are asking too much for us to have any kind of deal so as I would in real life just walk away and look elsewhere.

I’m self employed and work on price so if the customer wants to pay less I don’t deal wit them simple

Promising all benefits and no drawbacks was always going to lead to this sort of situation.

What if the customer had used you for years, said they weren't going to use you and went another worker then expected you to still do maintenance for free?

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By *ebbie69Couple over a year ago

milton keynes

"Beats me that if the eu thinks we are so fucked why do they want to keep talking?

Many said the UK would have no choice but to roll over and sign to whatever the EU demands. If that was true they would have stopped negotiations ages ago and just said take it or leave it

I never heard any of the leaders of the EU ever saying that ? They have always wanted to get some kind of deal"

I maybe should have been clearer I was referring to people on the forums