FabSwingers.com
 

FabSwingers.com > Forums > Politics > No Deal More Likely Than Not

No Deal More Likely Than Not

Jump to: Newest in thread

 

By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford

Hard cheese...let's just get on with it and prosper

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *oo hotCouple  over a year ago

North West

When will all the prospering and thriving begin? Are there countless investors just waiting for the U.K. to stick two fingers up at Brussels so they can invest in a 60,000,000 million instead of a 400,000,000 market?

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *hagTonightMan  over a year ago

From the land of haribos.

Yes it seems like a no deal brexit, they want the whole cake but not the cherry.

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yes it seems like a no deal brexit, they want the whole cake but not the cherry."

"Let then eat cake"

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *rystal DreamtimeTV/TS  over a year ago

horsham


"Hard cheese...let's just get on with it and prosper "

Have you got a date for the prospering . I’m busy filling out income / outgoing paperwork regarding my mortgage arrears ..might be helpful if I can give them a date for the money to come rolling in ..

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Hard cheese...let's just get on with it and prosper

Have you got a date for the prospering . I’m busy filling out income / outgoing paperwork regarding my mortgage arrears ..might be helpful if I can give them a date for the money to come rolling in .."

You've got arrears while in the EU? Maybe its not been so good for you then

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *rystal DreamtimeTV/TS  over a year ago

horsham


"Hard cheese...let's just get on with it and prosper

Have you got a date for the prospering . I’m busy filling out income / outgoing paperwork regarding my mortgage arrears ..might be helpful if I can give them a date for the money to come rolling in ..

You've got arrears while in the EU? Maybe its not been so good for you then"

I got arrears because I had to borrow heavily and well over the top because of the over inflated nature of the British housing and property market .. nothing to do with any EU membership ..

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Hard cheese...let's just get on with it and prosper

Have you got a date for the prospering . I’m busy filling out income / outgoing paperwork regarding my mortgage arrears ..might be helpful if I can give them a date for the money to come rolling in ..

You've got arrears while in the EU? Maybe its not been so good for you then

I got arrears because I had to borrow heavily and well over the top because of the over inflated nature of the British housing and property market .. nothing to do with any EU membership ..

"

Why is the housing market over inflated?

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Hard cheese...let's just get on with it and prosper "

What type of cheese ?

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ercuryMan  over a year ago

Grantham


"Hard cheese...let's just get on with it and prosper

What type of cheese ? "

English cheddar

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Hard cheese...let's just get on with it and prosper

What type of cheese ?

English cheddar "

Nice, I like cheddar,

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *estivalMan  over a year ago

borehamwood

no deal has besn the likley outcome since the vote and definatley since may got booted out of the p.m job

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *rystal DreamtimeTV/TS  over a year ago

horsham


"Hard cheese...let's just get on with it and prosper

Have you got a date for the prospering . I’m busy filling out income / outgoing paperwork regarding my mortgage arrears ..might be helpful if I can give them a date for the money to come rolling in ..

You've got arrears while in the EU? Maybe its not been so good for you then

I got arrears because I had to borrow heavily and well over the top because of the over inflated nature of the British housing and property market .. nothing to do with any EU membership ..

Why is the housing market over inflated? "

Well you tell me , why is the cost of housing so expensive in the Uk ? Why is it that a basic necessity such as a roof over ones head and that of my children that it takes up such a chunk of money every month ? I would be interested to know . Why is the cost of my business premises for ever on the increase , so I have to find that chunk of money so I can try to pay the other chunk of money that is my mortgage ..

Now I’m not really a clever bloke as far as politics or economics are concerned , I’m not an academic , I’m just a worker who took a chance to break out on there own , earn a few more quid than I was being employed by someone .. I’m still on the tools , grafting if you like .

All I really know when I started this venture I worked on the most basic of barrow boy principles , buy for one sell for two sort of thing , take your Xs out and that’s what your left with . Happy Days , it was always gonna be tight , but just about doable .. No one mentioned that in a few years time Brexshit was gonna come along and through some big barriers in my way , which would seriously fuck with my business model and my ability to pay the huge chunk of money I paid for a house .. And this remember is a house where I live as a home with the kids so they can be secure and have a childhood .. Now remember I’m not really a clever bloke , and also I’m a busy bloke with work , so keeping an eye on the housing market as well is tough going ..

Anyway it came to the crunch , needed to stick the house on the market ,, Sorry kids , it was valued , wow if that horse comes home we are all off to the pub !!

And there it’s sat since .. The analysis from the estate agent is as follows , Due to the large increase and development of new properties in your vicinity , house prices are being held high by generous bonus schemes and help with moving in costs making your property less attractive at that price . . So my house ain’t worth current market value ? , I ask naively. Well it is they say , kinda . Just no ones paying that much for second hand properties when new can be had for around the same money ..

So yeah it’s over inflated somewhat ..

Any advice greatly appreciated . But please no dickwad about don’t worry we will all soon prosper due to Brexshit

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"no deal has besn the likley outcome since the vote and definatley since may got booted out of the p.m job"

Then why did Boris and his Brexit A team keep promising a great deal?

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *mmabluTV/TS  over a year ago

upton wirral


"Hard cheese...let's just get on with it and prosper

Have you got a date for the prospering . I’m busy filling out income / outgoing paperwork regarding my mortgage arrears ..might be helpful if I can give them a date for the money to come rolling in ..

You've got arrears while in the EU? Maybe its not been so good for you then

I got arrears because I had to borrow heavily and well over the top because of the over inflated nature of the British housing and property market .. nothing to do with any EU membership ..

"

Your living above your means that is your problem simple

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Hard cheese...let's just get on with it and prosper

Have you got a date for the prospering . I’m busy filling out income / outgoing paperwork regarding my mortgage arrears ..might be helpful if I can give them a date for the money to come rolling in ..

You've got arrears while in the EU? Maybe its not been so good for you then

I got arrears because I had to borrow heavily and well over the top because of the over inflated nature of the British housing and property market .. nothing to do with any EU membership ..

Why is the housing market over inflated?

Well you tell me , why is the cost of housing so expensive in the Uk ? Why is it that a basic necessity such as a roof over ones head and that of my children that it takes up such a chunk of money every month ? I would be interested to know . Why is the cost of my business premises for ever on the increase , so I have to find that chunk of money so I can try to pay the other chunk of money that is my mortgage ..

Now I’m not really a clever bloke as far as politics or economics are concerned , I’m not an academic , I’m just a worker who took a chance to break out on there own , earn a few more quid than I was being employed by someone .. I’m still on the tools , grafting if you like .

All I really know when I started this venture I worked on the most basic of barrow boy principles , buy for one sell for two sort of thing , take your Xs out and that’s what your left with . Happy Days , it was always gonna be tight , but just about doable .. No one mentioned that in a few years time Brexshit was gonna come along and through some big barriers in my way , which would seriously fuck with my business model and my ability to pay the huge chunk of money I paid for a house .. And this remember is a house where I live as a home with the kids so they can be secure and have a childhood .. Now remember I’m not really a clever bloke , and also I’m a busy bloke with work , so keeping an eye on the housing market as well is tough going ..

Anyway it came to the crunch , needed to stick the house on the market ,, Sorry kids , it was valued , wow if that horse comes home we are all off to the pub !!

And there it’s sat since .. The analysis from the estate agent is as follows , Due to the large increase and development of new properties in your vicinity , house prices are being held high by generous bonus schemes and help with moving in costs making your property less attractive at that price . . So my house ain’t worth current market value ? , I ask naively. Well it is they say , kinda . Just no ones paying that much for second hand properties when new can be had for around the same money ..

So yeah it’s over inflated somewhat ..

Any advice greatly appreciated . But please no dickwad about don’t worry we will all soon prosper due to Brexshit

"

Supply and demand. With net migration of 200-250000 annually under EU free movement rules what did you expect?

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Hard cheese...let's just get on with it and prosper "

Hold on there Tom, we might not be getting a no deal after all, it looks like talks could be extended

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *estivalMan  over a year ago

borehamwood


"no deal has besn the likley outcome since the vote and definatley since may got booted out of the p.m job

Then why did Boris and his Brexit A team keep promising a great deal? "

how would i know? im not on boris a team.i was just posting something that was obvious to me from the start.they would of taken a deal if there was one on offer that they liked the look of but was pretty obvious they didnt care either way.and most peeps who voted leave as far as i can see only care about leaving the e.u they dont seem to fussed about anything else.but hey what do i know im just a bystander and these are just my thoughts.not an expert and never have claimed to be.just saying what i see

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *rystal DreamtimeTV/TS  over a year ago

horsham


"Hard cheese...let's just get on with it and prosper

Have you got a date for the prospering . I’m busy filling out income / outgoing paperwork regarding my mortgage arrears ..might be helpful if I can give them a date for the money to come rolling in ..

You've got arrears while in the EU? Maybe its not been so good for you then

I got arrears because I had to borrow heavily and well over the top because of the over inflated nature of the British housing and property market .. nothing to do with any EU membership ..

Why is the housing market over inflated?

Well you tell me , why is the cost of housing so expensive in the Uk ? Why is it that a basic necessity such as a roof over ones head and that of my children that it takes up such a chunk of money every month ? I would be interested to know . Why is the cost of my business premises for ever on the increase , so I have to find that chunk of money so I can try to pay the other chunk of money that is my mortgage ..

Now I’m not really a clever bloke as far as politics or economics are concerned , I’m not an academic , I’m just a worker who took a chance to break out on there own , earn a few more quid than I was being employed by someone .. I’m still on the tools , grafting if you like .

All I really know when I started this venture I worked on the most basic of barrow boy principles , buy for one sell for two sort of thing , take your Xs out and that’s what your left with . Happy Days , it was always gonna be tight , but just about doable .. No one mentioned that in a few years time Brexshit was gonna come along and through some big barriers in my way , which would seriously fuck with my business model and my ability to pay the huge chunk of money I paid for a house .. And this remember is a house where I live as a home with the kids so they can be secure and have a childhood .. Now remember I’m not really a clever bloke , and also I’m a busy bloke with work , so keeping an eye on the housing market as well is tough going ..

Anyway it came to the crunch , needed to stick the house on the market ,, Sorry kids , it was valued , wow if that horse comes home we are all off to the pub !!

And there it’s sat since .. The analysis from the estate agent is as follows , Due to the large increase and development of new properties in your vicinity , house prices are being held high by generous bonus schemes and help with moving in costs making your property less attractive at that price . . So my house ain’t worth current market value ? , I ask naively. Well it is they say , kinda . Just no ones paying that much for second hand properties when new can be had for around the same money ..

So yeah it’s over inflated somewhat ..

Any advice greatly appreciated . But please no dickwad about don’t worry we will all soon prosper due to Brexshit

Supply and demand. With net migration of 200-250000 annually under EU free movement rules what did you expect? "

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *rystal DreamtimeTV/TS  over a year ago

horsham

So that’s it is it , that simple . Throw out immigration and house prices will fall to an extent that is is affordable for everyone ? I take it we will be also kicking out the overseas investors whom buy large amounts of property to in the uk to prop up investor portfolios and the , especially on the business premises side so that side of me can flourish . Get square footage back to a affordable level ..

I’m not really swamped with immigration where I live , it’s predominantly white middle class been a Tory strong hold since the day dot .. There a few blokes washing cars in the supermarket car park , whom I must say are grafters and do a good job for 15 quid . And apparently there’s not one English person working in the Kentucky ( I wouldn’t know I can’t afford Kentucky at the moment ) I’m not sure how thease guys are keeping house prices high though eh ?

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"Hard cheese...let's just get on with it and prosper

Have you got a date for the prospering . I’m busy filling out income / outgoing paperwork regarding my mortgage arrears ..might be helpful if I can give them a date for the money to come rolling in .."

There should be a unicorn s######g gold bricks coming Any time now.

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"no deal has besn the likley outcome since the vote and definatley since may got booted out of the p.m job

Then why did Boris and his Brexit A team keep promising a great deal? "

I thought that's why he won the election?

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"Hard cheese...let's just get on with it and prosper

Have you got a date for the prospering . I’m busy filling out income / outgoing paperwork regarding my mortgage arrears ..might be helpful if I can give them a date for the money to come rolling in ..

You've got arrears while in the EU? Maybe its not been so good for you then

I got arrears because I had to borrow heavily and well over the top because of the over inflated nature of the British housing and property market .. nothing to do with any EU membership ..

Why is the housing market over inflated?

Well you tell me , why is the cost of housing so expensive in the Uk ? Why is it that a basic necessity such as a roof over ones head and that of my children that it takes up such a chunk of money every month ? I would be interested to know . Why is the cost of my business premises for ever on the increase , so I have to find that chunk of money so I can try to pay the other chunk of money that is my mortgage ..

Now I’m not really a clever bloke as far as politics or economics are concerned , I’m not an academic , I’m just a worker who took a chance to break out on there own , earn a few more quid than I was being employed by someone .. I’m still on the tools , grafting if you like .

All I really know when I started this venture I worked on the most basic of barrow boy principles , buy for one sell for two sort of thing , take your Xs out and that’s what your left with . Happy Days , it was always gonna be tight , but just about doable .. No one mentioned that in a few years time Brexshit was gonna come along and through some big barriers in my way , which would seriously fuck with my business model and my ability to pay the huge chunk of money I paid for a house .. And this remember is a house where I live as a home with the kids so they can be secure and have a childhood .. Now remember I’m not really a clever bloke , and also I’m a busy bloke with work , so keeping an eye on the housing market as well is tough going ..

Anyway it came to the crunch , needed to stick the house on the market ,, Sorry kids , it was valued , wow if that horse comes home we are all off to the pub !!

And there it’s sat since .. The analysis from the estate agent is as follows , Due to the large increase and development of new properties in your vicinity , house prices are being held high by generous bonus schemes and help with moving in costs making your property less attractive at that price . . So my house ain’t worth current market value ? , I ask naively. Well it is they say , kinda . Just no ones paying that much for second hand properties when new can be had for around the same money ..

So yeah it’s over inflated somewhat ..

Any advice greatly appreciated . But please no dickwad about don’t worry we will all soon prosper due to Brexshit

Supply and demand. With net migration of 200-250000 annually under EU free movement rules what did you expect? "

Out

Standing

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Hard cheese...let's just get on with it and prosper

Have you got a date for the prospering . I’m busy filling out income / outgoing paperwork regarding my mortgage arrears ..might be helpful if I can give them a date for the money to come rolling in ..

There should be a unicorn s######g gold bricks coming Any time now."

There is definitely an extremist element on here who don't think that Brexit is any good.

And then the more moderate people who know for sure that we will definitely have free unicorns and gold bars delivered daily to our door by a proper British person.

So hard cheese to the extremists.

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *estivalMan  over a year ago

borehamwood


"no deal has besn the likley outcome since the vote and definatley since may got booted out of the p.m job

Then why did Boris and his Brexit A team keep promising a great deal?

I thought that's why he won the election?"

he was trying to win an election all partys bullshit.do u think labour would of kept evert promise tey mad had they won.wow for someone who talks a lot about politics you seem blind to the fact that politicians bend the truth to get your vote.one of the main reasons i dont vote.why would i wana cast a vote for anyone i know is bullshitting

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ercuryMan  over a year ago

Grantham

Talks to go on beyond today

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ovebjsMan  over a year ago

Bristol


"Hard cheese...let's just get on with it and prosper

Have you got a date for the prospering . I’m busy filling out income / outgoing paperwork regarding my mortgage arrears ..might be helpful if I can give them a date for the money to come rolling in ..

You've got arrears while in the EU? Maybe its not been so good for you then

I got arrears because I had to borrow heavily and well over the top because of the over inflated nature of the British housing and property market .. nothing to do with any EU membership ..

Why is the housing market over inflated?

Well you tell me , why is the cost of housing so expensive in the Uk ? Why is it that a basic necessity such as a roof over ones head and that of my children that it takes up such a chunk of money every month ? I would be interested to know . Why is the cost of my business premises for ever on the increase , so I have to find that chunk of money so I can try to pay the other chunk of money that is my mortgage ..

Now I’m not really a clever bloke as far as politics or economics are concerned , I’m not an academic , I’m just a worker who took a chance to break out on there own , earn a few more quid than I was being employed by someone .. I’m still on the tools , grafting if you like .

All I really know when I started this venture I worked on the most basic of barrow boy principles , buy for one sell for two sort of thing , take your Xs out and that’s what your left with . Happy Days , it was always gonna be tight , but just about doable .. No one mentioned that in a few years time Brexshit was gonna come along and through some big barriers in my way , which would seriously fuck with my business model and my ability to pay the huge chunk of money I paid for a house .. And this remember is a house where I live as a home with the kids so they can be secure and have a childhood .. Now remember I’m not really a clever bloke , and also I’m a busy bloke with work , so keeping an eye on the housing market as well is tough going ..

Anyway it came to the crunch , needed to stick the house on the market ,, Sorry kids , it was valued , wow if that horse comes home we are all off to the pub !!

And there it’s sat since .. The analysis from the estate agent is as follows , Due to the large increase and development of new properties in your vicinity , house prices are being held high by generous bonus schemes and help with moving in costs making your property less attractive at that price . . So my house ain’t worth current market value ? , I ask naively. Well it is they say , kinda . Just no ones paying that much for second hand properties when new can be had for around the same money ..

So yeah it’s over inflated somewhat ..

Any advice greatly appreciated . But please no dickwad about don’t worry we will all soon prosper due to Brexshit

"

Let’s face it in or out you would be in the same boat

Stashing in the EU will not solve your problem

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"Talks to go on beyond today "

Said it yesterday.. I think some sort of deal will be struck.

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"no deal has besn the likley outcome since the vote and definatley since may got booted out of the p.m job

Then why did Boris and his Brexit A team keep promising a great deal?

I thought that's why he won the election?

he was trying to win an election all partys bullshit.do u think labour would of kept evert promise tey mad had they won.wow for someone who talks a lot about politics you seem blind to the fact that politicians bend the truth to get your vote.one of the main reasons i dont vote.why would i wana cast a vote for anyone i know is bullshitting"

It was hardly a minor pledge

It was the entire reason they got voted in

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ercuryMan  over a year ago

Grantham


"Talks to go on beyond today

Said it yesterday.. I think some sort of deal will be struck.

"

Neither side wants a "no deal" scenario.

Time for the politicians to blink.

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ovebjsMan  over a year ago

Bristol


"Talks to go on beyond today

Said it yesterday.. I think some sort of deal will be struck.

"

They are just kicking it down the road again because no side wants a no deal and no side wants to give in.

Even the Ireland agreement is timed for I think six months and the EU wants to extend the fishing for another 12 months so they can try and work things out.

Just more can kicking I think

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *estivalMan  over a year ago

borehamwood


"no deal has besn the likley outcome since the vote and definatley since may got booted out of the p.m job

Then why did Boris and his Brexit A team keep promising a great deal?

I thought that's why he won the election?

he was trying to win an election all partys bullshit.do u think labour would of kept evert promise tey mad had they won.wow for someone who talks a lot about politics you seem blind to the fact that politicians bend the truth to get your vote.one of the main reasons i dont vote.why would i wana cast a vote for anyone i know is bullshitting

It was hardly a minor pledge

It was the entire reason they got voted in

"

yup they know how to win elections tell a belivable lie people will vote for it thats what happend problem with labour was they promised so many things to so many people it was obvious most of it was bollocks.tell a believable lie and it will work on the majority of people.come on lionel you know how elections work.when was the last time any party kept a promise

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"no deal has besn the likley outcome since the vote and definatley since may got booted out of the p.m job

Then why did Boris and his Brexit A team keep promising a great deal?

how would i know? im not on boris a team.i was just posting something that was obvious to me from the start.they would of taken a deal if there was one on offer that they liked the look of but was pretty obvious they didnt care either way.and most peeps who voted leave as far as i can see only care about leaving the e.u they dont seem to fussed about anything else.but hey what do i know im just a bystander and these are just my thoughts.not an expert and never have claimed to be.just saying what i see"

I was asking for your opinion, you don’t have to know all the facts to have an opinion

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"no deal has besn the likley outcome since the vote and definatley since may got booted out of the p.m job

Then why did Boris and his Brexit A team keep promising a great deal?

I thought that's why he won the election?

he was trying to win an election all partys bullshit.do u think labour would of kept evert promise tey mad had they won.wow for someone who talks a lot about politics you seem blind to the fact that politicians bend the truth to get your vote.one of the main reasons i dont vote.why would i wana cast a vote for anyone i know is bullshitting

It was hardly a minor pledge

It was the entire reason they got voted in

yup they know how to win elections tell a belivable lie people will vote for it thats what happend problem with labour was they promised so many things to so many people it was obvious most of it was bollocks.tell a believable lie and it will work on the majority of people.come on lionel you know how elections work.when was the last time any party kept a promise"

So basically every single political party lies all the time?

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *estivalMan  over a year ago

borehamwood

yep with some truths thrown in to keep the masses happy

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *rystal DreamtimeTV/TS  over a year ago

horsham


"Hard cheese...let's just get on with it and prosper

Have you got a date for the prospering . I’m busy filling out income / outgoing paperwork regarding my mortgage arrears ..might be helpful if I can give them a date for the money to come rolling in ..

You've got arrears while in the EU? Maybe its not been so good for you then

I got arrears because I had to borrow heavily and well over the top because of the over inflated nature of the British housing and property market .. nothing to do with any EU membership ..

Why is the housing market over inflated?

Well you tell me , why is the cost of housing so expensive in the Uk ? Why is it that a basic necessity such as a roof over ones head and that of my children that it takes up such a chunk of money every month ? I would be interested to know . Why is the cost of my business premises for ever on the increase , so I have to find that chunk of money so I can try to pay the other chunk of money that is my mortgage ..

Now I’m not really a clever bloke as far as politics or economics are concerned , I’m not an academic , I’m just a worker who took a chance to break out on there own , earn a few more quid than I was being employed by someone .. I’m still on the tools , grafting if you like .

All I really know when I started this venture I worked on the most basic of barrow boy principles , buy for one sell for two sort of thing , take your Xs out and that’s what your left with . Happy Days , it was always gonna be tight , but just about doable .. No one mentioned that in a few years time Brexshit was gonna come along and through some big barriers in my way , which would seriously fuck with my business model and my ability to pay the huge chunk of money I paid for a house .. And this remember is a house where I live as a home with the kids so they can be secure and have a childhood .. Now remember I’m not really a clever bloke , and also I’m a busy bloke with work , so keeping an eye on the housing market as well is tough going ..

Anyway it came to the crunch , needed to stick the house on the market ,, Sorry kids , it was valued , wow if that horse comes home we are all off to the pub !!

And there it’s sat since .. The analysis from the estate agent is as follows , Due to the large increase and development of new properties in your vicinity , house prices are being held high by generous bonus schemes and help with moving in costs making your property less attractive at that price . . So my house ain’t worth current market value ? , I ask naively. Well it is they say , kinda . Just no ones paying that much for second hand properties when new can be had for around the same money ..

So yeah it’s over inflated somewhat ..

Any advice greatly appreciated . But please no dickwad about don’t worry we will all soon prosper due to Brexshit

Let’s face it in or out you would be in the same boat

Stashing in the EU will not solve your problem "

Well here’s the rub see and like I say I’m not clever I just know what I know and see what’s happening to me .

My business basically entails the supply and fit of machinery . We buy machines from an Italian manufacture ( for those that don’t know Italy has a lot of manufacturing of machinery , in fact it’s substantial ) We sell those machines to British customers not at any great profit on the product , mostly we make on the fitting , the labour if you like . It’s me the Governor and two blokes employed .. it’s not a huge concern by any means it’s relatively small but has enough overheads which does limit the size of the operation , unless one borrows heavily again to invest . It pays wages decent enough but not as much as some trades and vice versa .

Now the way manufacturing of heavy machinery works is like this . We must pre order how many machines we want that year , in fact there is a minimum we must take , to be a supplier .And that’s the world over , not just Europe every factory needs pre orders .

Because of the business uncertainty that Brexshit has brought , and of the fact that Today at this moment is proving impossible to finalise a total price for my customers , not knowing what the costs are to be and actually how long they will now take to get or even if any of my existing British customers are even planning to renew machines this year or for the foreseeable . Every phone call goes like this at the moment . “ want any machines this year ? “ “ Dunno we are gonna look at budgets see what’s happening “

Then to the factory “ Hey how many machines you want this year ? “ .. “ Dunno mate hard to say “

You see the uncertainty there don’t you ? How hard it is to call

So when someone says to me something daft like “ you would be in the same position if we hadn’t left Europe “ I get slightly angry inside .

No !!! because I could afford my mortgage before Brexshit , it was actually ok ..

And so could the two guys who work for me who coincidentally voted Brexshit and asked just 3 weeks ago if there was any more money available cause things were tight at home .. eh get that fucking shit man eh .. haha

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ostafunMan  over a year ago

near ipswich


"Hard cheese...let's just get on with it and prosper

Have you got a date for the prospering . I’m busy filling out income / outgoing paperwork regarding my mortgage arrears ..might be helpful if I can give them a date for the money to come rolling in ..

You've got arrears while in the EU? Maybe its not been so good for you then

I got arrears because I had to borrow heavily and well over the top because of the over inflated nature of the British housing and property market .. nothing to do with any EU membership ..

Why is the housing market over inflated?

Well you tell me , why is the cost of housing so expensive in the Uk ? Why is it that a basic necessity such as a roof over ones head and that of my children that it takes up such a chunk of money every month ? I would be interested to know . Why is the cost of my business premises for ever on the increase , so I have to find that chunk of money so I can try to pay the other chunk of money that is my mortgage ..

Now I’m not really a clever bloke as far as politics or economics are concerned , I’m not an academic , I’m just a worker who took a chance to break out on there own , earn a few more quid than I was being employed by someone .. I’m still on the tools , grafting if you like .

All I really know when I started this venture I worked on the most basic of barrow boy principles , buy for one sell for two sort of thing , take your Xs out and that’s what your left with . Happy Days , it was always gonna be tight , but just about doable .. No one mentioned that in a few years time Brexshit was gonna come along and through some big barriers in my way , which would seriously fuck with my business model and my ability to pay the huge chunk of money I paid for a house .. And this remember is a house where I live as a home with the kids so they can be secure and have a childhood .. Now remember I’m not really a clever bloke , and also I’m a busy bloke with work , so keeping an eye on the housing market as well is tough going ..

Anyway it came to the crunch , needed to stick the house on the market ,, Sorry kids , it was valued , wow if that horse comes home we are all off to the pub !!

And there it’s sat since .. The analysis from the estate agent is as follows , Due to the large increase and development of new properties in your vicinity , house prices are being held high by generous bonus schemes and help with moving in costs making your property less attractive at that price . . So my house ain’t worth current market value ? , I ask naively. Well it is they say , kinda . Just no ones paying that much for second hand properties when new can be had for around the same money ..

So yeah it’s over inflated somewhat ..

Any advice greatly appreciated . But please no dickwad about don’t worry we will all soon prosper due to Brexshit

Let’s face it in or out you would be in the same boat

Stashing in the EU will not solve your problem

Well here’s the rub see and like I say I’m not clever I just know what I know and see what’s happening to me .

My business basically entails the supply and fit of machinery . We buy machines from an Italian manufacture ( for those that don’t know Italy has a lot of manufacturing of machinery , in fact it’s substantial ) We sell those machines to British customers not at any great profit on the product , mostly we make on the fitting , the labour if you like . It’s me the Governor and two blokes employed .. it’s not a huge concern by any means it’s relatively small but has enough overheads which does limit the size of the operation , unless one borrows heavily again to invest . It pays wages decent enough but not as much as some trades and vice versa .

Now the way manufacturing of heavy machinery works is like this . We must pre order how many machines we want that year , in fact there is a minimum we must take , to be a supplier .And that’s the world over , not just Europe every factory needs pre orders .

Because of the business uncertainty that Brexshit has brought , and of the fact that Today at this moment is proving impossible to finalise a total price for my customers , not knowing what the costs are to be and actually how long they will now take to get or even if any of my existing British customers are even planning to renew machines this year or for the foreseeable . Every phone call goes like this at the moment . “ want any machines this year ? “ “ Dunno we are gonna look at budgets see what’s happening “

Then to the factory “ Hey how many machines you want this year ? “ .. “ Dunno mate hard to say “

You see the uncertainty there don’t you ? How hard it is to call

So when someone says to me something daft like “ you would be in the same position if we hadn’t left Europe “ I get slightly angry inside .

No !!! because I could afford my mortgage before Brexshit , it was actually ok ..

And so could the two guys who work for me who coincidentally voted Brexshit and asked just 3 weeks ago if there was any more money available cause things were tight at home .. eh get that fucking shit man eh .. haha "

Have you thought that covid could also be part of the problem?

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ust some cock suckerMan  over a year ago

Preston


"

Supply and demand. With net migration of 200-250000 annually under EU free movement rules what did you expect? "

I love how this all goes full mini circle every time....

There's a problem

It's the fucking foreigners fault

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Hard cheese...let's just get on with it and prosper

Have you got a date for the prospering . I’m busy filling out income / outgoing paperwork regarding my mortgage arrears ..might be helpful if I can give them a date for the money to come rolling in ..

You've got arrears while in the EU? Maybe its not been so good for you then

I got arrears because I had to borrow heavily and well over the top because of the over inflated nature of the British housing and property market .. nothing to do with any EU membership ..

Why is the housing market over inflated?

Well you tell me , why is the cost of housing so expensive in the Uk ? Why is it that a basic necessity such as a roof over ones head and that of my children that it takes up such a chunk of money every month ? I would be interested to know . Why is the cost of my business premises for ever on the increase , so I have to find that chunk of money so I can try to pay the other chunk of money that is my mortgage ..

Now I’m not really a clever bloke as far as politics or economics are concerned , I’m not an academic , I’m just a worker who took a chance to break out on there own , earn a few more quid than I was being employed by someone .. I’m still on the tools , grafting if you like .

All I really know when I started this venture I worked on the most basic of barrow boy principles , buy for one sell for two sort of thing , take your Xs out and that’s what your left with . Happy Days , it was always gonna be tight , but just about doable .. No one mentioned that in a few years time Brexshit was gonna come along and through some big barriers in my way , which would seriously fuck with my business model and my ability to pay the huge chunk of money I paid for a house .. And this remember is a house where I live as a home with the kids so they can be secure and have a childhood .. Now remember I’m not really a clever bloke , and also I’m a busy bloke with work , so keeping an eye on the housing market as well is tough going ..

Anyway it came to the crunch , needed to stick the house on the market ,, Sorry kids , it was valued , wow if that horse comes home we are all off to the pub !!

And there it’s sat since .. The analysis from the estate agent is as follows , Due to the large increase and development of new properties in your vicinity , house prices are being held high by generous bonus schemes and help with moving in costs making your property less attractive at that price . . So my house ain’t worth current market value ? , I ask naively. Well it is they say , kinda . Just no ones paying that much for second hand properties when new can be had for around the same money ..

So yeah it’s over inflated somewhat ..

Any advice greatly appreciated . But please no dickwad about don’t worry we will all soon prosper due to Brexshit

Let’s face it in or out you would be in the same boat

Stashing in the EU will not solve your problem

Well here’s the rub see and like I say I’m not clever I just know what I know and see what’s happening to me .

My business basically entails the supply and fit of machinery . We buy machines from an Italian manufacture ( for those that don’t know Italy has a lot of manufacturing of machinery , in fact it’s substantial ) We sell those machines to British customers not at any great profit on the product , mostly we make on the fitting , the labour if you like . It’s me the Governor and two blokes employed .. it’s not a huge concern by any means it’s relatively small but has enough overheads which does limit the size of the operation , unless one borrows heavily again to invest . It pays wages decent enough but not as much as some trades and vice versa .

Now the way manufacturing of heavy machinery works is like this . We must pre order how many machines we want that year , in fact there is a minimum we must take , to be a supplier .And that’s the world over , not just Europe every factory needs pre orders .

Because of the business uncertainty that Brexshit has brought , and of the fact that Today at this moment is proving impossible to finalise a total price for my customers , not knowing what the costs are to be and actually how long they will now take to get or even if any of my existing British customers are even planning to renew machines this year or for the foreseeable . Every phone call goes like this at the moment . “ want any machines this year ? “ “ Dunno we are gonna look at budgets see what’s happening “

Then to the factory “ Hey how many machines you want this year ? “ .. “ Dunno mate hard to say “

You see the uncertainty there don’t you ? How hard it is to call

So when someone says to me something daft like “ you would be in the same position if we hadn’t left Europe “ I get slightly angry inside .

No !!! because I could afford my mortgage before Brexshit , it was actually ok ..

And so could the two guys who work for me who coincidentally voted Brexshit and asked just 3 weeks ago if there was any more money available cause things were tight at home .. eh get that fucking shit man eh .. haha Have you thought that covid could also be part of the problem?"

I thought remainers or the EU was the problem.

Now you guys have another scapegoat huh!

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"

Supply and demand. With net migration of 200-250000 annually under EU free movement rules what did you expect?

I love how this all goes full mini circle every time....

There's a problem

It's the fucking foreigners fault

"

Outstanding isn't it.?

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Supply and demand. With net migration of 200-250000 annually under EU free movement rules what did you expect?

I love how this all goes full mini circle every time....

There's a problem

It's the fucking foreigners fault

"

No it's not it's the EU's fault. How do you accommodate so many people in such a short space of time and expect rents/House prices to remain the same? Please explain to me?

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"

Supply and demand. With net migration of 200-250000 annually under EU free movement rules what did you expect?

I love how this all goes full mini circle every time....

There's a problem

It's the fucking foreigners fault

No it's not it's the EU's fault. How do you accommodate so many people in such a short space of time and expect rents/House prices to remain the same? Please explain to me? "

Rent is high because there is very little social housing and landlords are making a as much money as they can,which is something I thought you would have approved off?

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool

Fear not.

The daily mail have said boris has took ownership of the situation

So all that stuff about a clueless buffoon comically out of his depth,desperately trying to salvage he deal,he repeatedly promised was even ready,are way of the mark

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ust some cock suckerMan  over a year ago

Preston


"

Supply and demand. With net migration of 200-250000 annually under EU free movement rules what did you expect?

I love how this all goes full mini circle every time....

There's a problem

It's the fucking foreigners fault

No it's not it's the EU's fault. How do you accommodate so many people in such a short space of time and expect rents/House prices to remain the same? Please explain to me? "

1: The EU has policies and procedures / rules in place for member states to use that can limit people's free movement but our esteemed Government had decided never to put them into practice.

2: Total lack of planning for a rising population especially evident if they are going to not do the above and limit freedom of movement by not using mechanisms available to them

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Supply and demand. With net migration of 200-250000 annually under EU free movement rules what did you expect?

I love how this all goes full mini circle every time....

There's a problem

It's the fucking foreigners fault

No it's not it's the EU's fault. How do you accommodate so many people in such a short space of time and expect rents/House prices to remain the same? Please explain to me?

Rent is high because there is very little social housing and landlords are making a as much money as they can,which is something I thought you would have approved off?"

Why would I? And you're quite right there is not enough so why allow so many people to move freely when there is nowhere for them to go? And it has the effect of pushing up rents. It ain't rocket science. And no amount of building could have kept up

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *rystal DreamtimeTV/TS  over a year ago

horsham


"Hard cheese...let's just get on with it and prosper

Have you got a date for the prospering . I’m busy filling out income / outgoing paperwork regarding my mortgage arrears ..might be helpful if I can give them a date for the money to come rolling in ..

You've got arrears while in the EU? Maybe its not been so good for you then

I got arrears because I had to borrow heavily and well over the top because of the over inflated nature of the British housing and property market .. nothing to do with any EU membership ..

Why is the housing market over inflated?

Well you tell me , why is the cost of housing so expensive in the Uk ? Why is it that a basic necessity such as a roof over ones head and that of my children that it takes up such a chunk of money every month ? I would be interested to know . Why is the cost of my business premises for ever on the increase , so I have to find that chunk of money so I can try to pay the other chunk of money that is my mortgage ..

Now I’m not really a clever bloke as far as politics or economics are concerned , I’m not an academic , I’m just a worker who took a chance to break out on there own , earn a few more quid than I was being employed by someone .. I’m still on the tools , grafting if you like .

All I really know when I started this venture I worked on the most basic of barrow boy principles , buy for one sell for two sort of thing , take your Xs out and that’s what your left with . Happy Days , it was always gonna be tight , but just about doable .. No one mentioned that in a few years time Brexshit was gonna come along and through some big barriers in my way , which would seriously fuck with my business model and my ability to pay the huge chunk of money I paid for a house .. And this remember is a house where I live as a home with the kids so they can be secure and have a childhood .. Now remember I’m not really a clever bloke , and also I’m a busy bloke with work , so keeping an eye on the housing market as well is tough going ..

Anyway it came to the crunch , needed to stick the house on the market ,, Sorry kids , it was valued , wow if that horse comes home we are all off to the pub !!

And there it’s sat since .. The analysis from the estate agent is as follows , Due to the large increase and development of new properties in your vicinity , house prices are being held high by generous bonus schemes and help with moving in costs making your property less attractive at that price . . So my house ain’t worth current market value ? , I ask naively. Well it is they say , kinda . Just no ones paying that much for second hand properties when new can be had for around the same money ..

So yeah it’s over inflated somewhat ..

Any advice greatly appreciated . But please no dickwad about don’t worry we will all soon prosper due to Brexshit

Let’s face it in or out you would be in the same boat

Stashing in the EU will not solve your problem

Well here’s the rub see and like I say I’m not clever I just know what I know and see what’s happening to me .

My business basically entails the supply and fit of machinery . We buy machines from an Italian manufacture ( for those that don’t know Italy has a lot of manufacturing of machinery , in fact it’s substantial ) We sell those machines to British customers not at any great profit on the product , mostly we make on the fitting , the labour if you like . It’s me the Governor and two blokes employed .. it’s not a huge concern by any means it’s relatively small but has enough overheads which does limit the size of the operation , unless one borrows heavily again to invest . It pays wages decent enough but not as much as some trades and vice versa .

Now the way manufacturing of heavy machinery works is like this . We must pre order how many machines we want that year , in fact there is a minimum we must take , to be a supplier .And that’s the world over , not just Europe every factory needs pre orders .

Because of the business uncertainty that Brexshit has brought , and of the fact that Today at this moment is proving impossible to finalise a total price for my customers , not knowing what the costs are to be and actually how long they will now take to get or even if any of my existing British customers are even planning to renew machines this year or for the foreseeable . Every phone call goes like this at the moment . “ want any machines this year ? “ “ Dunno we are gonna look at budgets see what’s happening “

Then to the factory “ Hey how many machines you want this year ? “ .. “ Dunno mate hard to say “

You see the uncertainty there don’t you ? How hard it is to call

So when someone says to me something daft like “ you would be in the same position if we hadn’t left Europe “ I get slightly angry inside .

No !!! because I could afford my mortgage before Brexshit , it was actually ok ..

And so could the two guys who work for me who coincidentally voted Brexshit and asked just 3 weeks ago if there was any more money available cause things were tight at home .. eh get that fucking shit man eh .. haha Have you thought that covid could also be part of the problem?"

Not one customer has said to me, we are not buying machines because of covid .. not one .. All have been because of the economic uncertainty surrounding Brexshit ..

So no I don’t think it’s because of covid . For sure it’s the cherry on the cake of the perfect shit storm it’s not the reason I can’t order machines with any degree certainty ..

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Supply and demand. With net migration of 200-250000 annually under EU free movement rules what did you expect?

I love how this all goes full mini circle every time....

There's a problem

It's the fucking foreigners fault

No it's not it's the EU's fault. How do you accommodate so many people in such a short space of time and expect rents/House prices to remain the same? Please explain to me?

1: The EU has policies and procedures / rules in place for member states to use that can limit people's free movement but our esteemed Government had decided never to put them into practice.

2: Total lack of planning for a rising population especially evident if they are going to not do the above and limit freedom of movement by not using mechanisms available to them "

What limits can they use. Please educate me

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ostafunMan  over a year ago

near ipswich


"

Supply and demand. With net migration of 200-250000 annually under EU free movement rules what did you expect?

I love how this all goes full mini circle every time....

There's a problem

It's the fucking foreigners fault

No it's not it's the EU's fault. How do you accommodate so many people in such a short space of time and expect rents/House prices to remain the same? Please explain to me?

Rent is high because there is very little social housing and landlords are making a as much money as they can,which is something I thought you would have approved off?"

Nothing to do with the influx of people then? the uk was expected to have the housing before they came? Demand drives the market.

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"

Supply and demand. With net migration of 200-250000 annually under EU free movement rules what did you expect?

I love how this all goes full mini circle every time....

There's a problem

It's the fucking foreigners fault

No it's not it's the EU's fault. How do you accommodate so many people in such a short space of time and expect rents/House prices to remain the same? Please explain to me?

Rent is high because there is very little social housing and landlords are making a as much money as they can,which is something I thought you would have approved off?Nothing to do with the influx of people then? the uk was expected to have the housing before they came? Demand drives the market."

Can you provide a link for the actual no of figs proving we are being swamped with immigrants?

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ostafunMan  over a year ago

near ipswich


"

Supply and demand. With net migration of 200-250000 annually under EU free movement rules what did you expect?

I love how this all goes full mini circle every time....

There's a problem

It's the fucking foreigners fault

No it's not it's the EU's fault. How do you accommodate so many people in such a short space of time and expect rents/House prices to remain the same? Please explain to me?

1: The EU has policies and procedures / rules in place for member states to use that can limit people's free movement but our esteemed Government had decided never to put them into practice.

2: Total lack of planning for a rising population especially evident if they are going to not do the above and limit freedom of movement by not using mechanisms available to them

What limits can they use. Please educate me "

Yeah i was wondering the same thing aren't all eu citizens treated the same and free to roam europe?

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ust some cock suckerMan  over a year ago

Preston


"

Supply and demand. With net migration of 200-250000 annually under EU free movement rules what did you expect?

I love how this all goes full mini circle every time....

There's a problem

It's the fucking foreigners fault

No it's not it's the EU's fault. How do you accommodate so many people in such a short space of time and expect rents/House prices to remain the same? Please explain to me?

1: The EU has policies and procedures / rules in place for member states to use that can limit people's free movement but our esteemed Government had decided never to put them into practice.

2: Total lack of planning for a rising population especially evident if they are going to not do the above and limit freedom of movement by not using mechanisms available to them

What limits can they use. Please educate me "

If you voted to leave in 2016 and yet you still don't know or understand the facts of what made you vote that way then it's a bit late now explaining it to you.

Look it up online, the facts are all there.

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Supply and demand. With net migration of 200-250000 annually under EU free movement rules what did you expect?

I love how this all goes full mini circle every time....

There's a problem

It's the fucking foreigners fault

No it's not it's the EU's fault. How do you accommodate so many people in such a short space of time and expect rents/House prices to remain the same? Please explain to me?

1: The EU has policies and procedures / rules in place for member states to use that can limit people's free movement but our esteemed Government had decided never to put them into practice.

2: Total lack of planning for a rising population especially evident if they are going to not do the above and limit freedom of movement by not using mechanisms available to them

What limits can they use. Please educate me

If you voted to leave in 2016 and yet you still don't know or understand the facts of what made you vote that way then it's a bit late now explaining it to you.

Look it up online, the facts are all there. "

I obviously did a lot more research than you, that's why I voted to leave. I'm asking you, what limits could the government put on free movement from the EU?

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *rystal DreamtimeTV/TS  over a year ago

horsham


"Hard cheese...let's just get on with it and prosper

Have you got a date for the prospering . I’m busy filling out income / outgoing paperwork regarding my mortgage arrears ..might be helpful if I can give them a date for the money to come rolling in ..

You've got arrears while in the EU? Maybe its not been so good for you then

I got arrears because I had to borrow heavily and well over the top because of the over inflated nature of the British housing and property market .. nothing to do with any EU membership ..

Your living above your means that is your problem simple"

I’ve just noticed this ...

No fucking shit Sherlock !!!!

Grow up !!!

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ust some cock suckerMan  over a year ago

Preston


"

Supply and demand. With net migration of 200-250000 annually under EU free movement rules what did you expect?

I love how this all goes full mini circle every time....

There's a problem

It's the fucking foreigners fault

No it's not it's the EU's fault. How do you accommodate so many people in such a short space of time and expect rents/House prices to remain the same? Please explain to me?

1: The EU has policies and procedures / rules in place for member states to use that can limit people's free movement but our esteemed Government had decided never to put them into practice.

2: Total lack of planning for a rising population especially evident if they are going to not do the above and limit freedom of movement by not using mechanisms available to them

What limits can they use. Please educate me

If you voted to leave in 2016 and yet you still don't know or understand the facts of what made you vote that way then it's a bit late now explaining it to you.

Look it up online, the facts are all there.

I obviously did a lot more research than you, that's why I voted to leave. I'm asking you, what limits could the government put on free movement from the EU? "

Ahh so you like to get personal do you when you lose an argument but won't accept it.

Just the nature of your questions and comments which I'm sure you'll think you have loaded clearly demonstrates the lack of facts that you speak from.

Anyway, I'll give you one mechanism our Government had in it's tool box for controlling immigration from the EU that it clearly failed to implement.


"

EU rules allow anyone to move, anytime, any place

True, and false. Anyone holding the nationality of a Member State of the EU can move to another Member State almost without restriction for three months. They cannot claim ‘social assistance’ (benefits for those who are very poor) nor can they claim access to student benefits (grants, loans).

However, after three months, everything changes. EU nationals can stay in the host state for the next five years only if they are economically active (as a ‘worker’, self-employed person or a temporary service provider) or they can provide for themselves (as a person of independent means or a student).

"

You may want to revise your claim to knowledge, just for future reference

I guess you're welcome

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Supply and demand. With net migration of 200-250000 annually under EU free movement rules what did you expect?

I love how this all goes full mini circle every time....

There's a problem

It's the fucking foreigners fault

No it's not it's the EU's fault. How do you accommodate so many people in such a short space of time and expect rents/House prices to remain the same? Please explain to me?

1: The EU has policies and procedures / rules in place for member states to use that can limit people's free movement but our esteemed Government had decided never to put them into practice.

2: Total lack of planning for a rising population especially evident if they are going to not do the above and limit freedom of movement by not using mechanisms available to them

What limits can they use. Please educate me

If you voted to leave in 2016 and yet you still don't know or understand the facts of what made you vote that way then it's a bit late now explaining it to you.

Look it up online, the facts are all there.

I obviously did a lot more research than you, that's why I voted to leave. I'm asking you, what limits could the government put on free movement from the EU?

Ahh so you like to get personal do you when you lose an argument but won't accept it.

Just the nature of your questions and comments which I'm sure you'll think you have loaded clearly demonstrates the lack of facts that you speak from.

Anyway, I'll give you one mechanism our Government had in it's tool box for controlling immigration from the EU that it clearly failed to implement.

EU rules allow anyone to move, anytime, any place

True, and false. Anyone holding the nationality of a Member State of the EU can move to another Member State almost without restriction for three months. They cannot claim ‘social assistance’ (benefits for those who are very poor) nor can they claim access to student benefits (grants, loans).

However, after three months, everything changes. EU nationals can stay in the host state for the next five years only if they are economically active (as a ‘worker’, self-employed person or a temporary service provider) or they can provide for themselves (as a person of independent means or a student).

You may want to revise your claim to knowledge, just for future reference

I guess you're welcome "

Thank you, you have just confirmed what I have been saying - anyone can move from one member state to another (the restrictions being on security or health grounds)

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool

Nice to know there is absolutely nothing brexiteers cannot blame immigrants or the eu for.

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford

I don't like the word deal.. there will be some sort of agreement ... Either now or in the future..

It's not just about the fishing rights. It's about oven ready fishing rights..

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I don't like the word deal.. there will be some sort of agreement ... Either now or in the future..

It's not just about the fishing rights. It's about oven ready fishing rights.. "

Oven ready fish. Yum.

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *obka3Couple  over a year ago

bournemouth


"Nice to know there is absolutely nothing brexiteers cannot blame immigrants or the eu for."

If more people move to a country and that country doesn't have enough housing then the price of that housing either the cost of buying or renting rises. That is not blaming immigration or the EU, it's an economic fact.

The UK simply has nor built enough housing for many years, now there are a few reasons for that, they are complex but to keep it simple they are, difficulty in gaining PP which has led to a very high cost of building land which makes the base cost of a plot very high, the current government is addressing that by making it easier to gain PP, however the greens and nimbys are up in arms. Secondly large developers dont want to build too many houses as that will reduce demand and thus prices thereby reducing their profits, mortgage companies dont want reduced house prices as that puts people into negative equity, house owners dont want lower prices as they will feel poorer.

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I don't like the word deal.. there will be some sort of agreement ... Either now or in the future..

It's not just about the fishing rights. It's about oven ready fishing rights.. "

Don’t worry Tom, the sun will rise tomorrow

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool

Tbh you can see why the brexiteers have got such a firm belief that it's going to be a glorious success.

I mean just look at the company they keep.

Nigel Farage

David Davies

Paul nuttall

Jacob Reece mogg

Mark Francois

The daily mail,the sun and the Express.

The fella who owns wethies

I mean,when you put faith in economic and intellectual heavyweights like that what can possibly go wrong?

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford


"Tbh you can see why the brexiteers have got such a firm belief that it's going to be a glorious success.

I mean just look at the company they keep.

Nigel Farage

David Davies

Paul nuttall

Jacob Reece mogg

Mark Francois

The daily mail,the sun and the Express.

The fella who owns wethies

I mean,when you put faith in economic and intellectual heavyweights like that what can possibly go wrong?"

Don't forget Essex_Tom

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"Tbh you can see why the brexiteers have got such a firm belief that it's going to be a glorious success.

I mean just look at the company they keep.

Nigel Farage

David Davies

Paul nuttall

Jacob Reece mogg

Mark Francois

The daily mail,the sun and the Express.

The fella who owns wethies

I mean,when you put faith in economic and intellectual heavyweights like that what can possibly go wrong?

Don't forget Essex_Tom"

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Tbh you can see why the brexiteers have got such a firm belief that it's going to be a glorious success.

I mean just look at the company they keep.

Nigel Farage

David Davies

Paul nuttall

Jacob Reece mogg

Mark Francois

The daily mail,the sun and the Express.

The fella who owns wethies

I mean,when you put faith in economic and intellectual heavyweights like that what can possibly go wrong?

Don't forget Essex_Tom"

That's some truly horrific company you're keeping there!

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *obka3Couple  over a year ago

bournemouth


"Tbh you can see why the brexiteers have got such a firm belief that it's going to be a glorious success.

I mean just look at the company they keep.

Nigel Farage

David Davies

Paul nuttall

Jacob Reece mogg

Mark Francois

The daily mail,the sun and the Express.

The fella who owns wethies

I mean,when you put faith in economic and intellectual heavyweights like that what can possibly go wrong?"

Whereas you rely on the guardian and that well know heavyweight mr jeremy Corbyn, comedy gold

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"Tbh you can see why the brexiteers have got such a firm belief that it's going to be a glorious success.

I mean just look at the company they keep.

Nigel Farage

David Davies

Paul nuttall

Jacob Reece mogg

Mark Francois

The daily mail,the sun and the Express.

The fella who owns wethies

I mean,when you put faith in economic and intellectual heavyweights like that what can possibly go wrong?

Whereas you rely on the guardian and that well know heavyweight mr jeremy Corbyn, comedy gold "

You lot are really obsessed.

He isnt leader any more.. let him go.

One of the most respected papers in the country or Paul nuttall

Yeah you got me there

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *obka3Couple  over a year ago

bournemouth

If you believe the guardian is respected you are more deluded than even your normal posts show.

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"If you believe the guardian is respected you are more deluded than even your normal posts show."

True.

It cant compare to the mail

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford


"Tbh you can see why the brexiteers have got such a firm belief that it's going to be a glorious success.

I mean just look at the company they keep.

Nigel Farage

David Davies

Paul nuttall

Jacob Reece mogg

Mark Francois

The daily mail,the sun and the Express.

The fella who owns wethies

I mean,when you put faith in economic and intellectual heavyweights like that what can possibly go wrong?

Whereas you rely on the guardian and that well know heavyweight mr jeremy Corbyn, comedy gold

You lot are really obsessed.

He isnt leader any more.. let him go.

One of the most respected papers in the country or Paul nuttall

Yeah you got me there "

Corbyn won the debate but lost the election he said.. deluded fool..

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The Mail, Express and Sun are not trusted as sources by wikipedia! That's right a website that lets you edit it see them as too unreliable.

The Human truth did a study on Newspapers based on the based on their quality and accuracy the 3 papers I mentioned were the bottom 3!

Look it up it's an interesting read.

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford


"The Mail, Express and Sun are not trusted as sources by wikipedia! That's right a website that lets you edit it see them as too unreliable.

The Human truth did a study on Newspapers based on the based on their quality and accuracy the 3 papers I mentioned were the bottom 3!

Look it up it's an interesting read."

Published in The Guardian no doubt..

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"The Mail, Express and Sun are not trusted as sources by wikipedia! That's right a website that lets you edit it see them as too unreliable.

The Human truth did a study on Newspapers based on the based on their quality and accuracy the 3 papers I mentioned were the bottom 3!

Look it up it's an interesting read."

Yet are probally the 3 most read papers In the country.

Explains a lot.

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The Mail, Express and Sun are not trusted as sources by wikipedia! That's right a website that lets you edit it see them as too unreliable.

The Human truth did a study on Newspapers based on the based on their quality and accuracy the 3 papers I mentioned were the bottom 3!

Did you even read what I put?

Look it up it's an interesting read.

Published in The Guardian no doubt.."

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The Mail, Express and Sun are not trusted as sources by wikipedia! That's right a website that lets you edit it see them as too unreliable.

The Human truth did a study on Newspapers based on the based on their quality and accuracy the 3 papers I mentioned were the bottom 3!

Look it up it's an interesting read.

Published in The Guardian no doubt.."

No, grow up.

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford


"The Mail, Express and Sun are not trusted as sources by wikipedia! That's right a website that lets you edit it see them as too unreliable.

The Human truth did a study on Newspapers based on the based on their quality and accuracy the 3 papers I mentioned were the bottom 3!

Look it up it's an interesting read.

Published in The Guardian no doubt..

No, grow up. "

Well today the Guardian has published an anti Brexit tirade by a former politician who reportedly claims on average 90k a year in subsidies from the EU.. no bias there then...

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The Mail, Express and Sun are not trusted as sources by wikipedia! That's right a website that lets you edit it see them as too unreliable.

The Human truth did a study on Newspapers based on the based on their quality and accuracy the 3 papers I mentioned were the bottom 3!

Look it up it's an interesting read.

Published in The Guardian no doubt..

No, grow up.

Well today the Guardian has published an anti Brexit tirade by a former politician who reportedly claims on average 90k a year in subsidies from the EU.. no bias there then..."

They might have political leanings but I'm talking about the quality and validity of the content. Are you not concerned that there are 4 papers deemed unreliable to publish by wikipedia because of past lies?

The Mirror is also deemed unreliable but has less marks against it's name.

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford

[Removed by poster at 13/12/20 19:37:55]

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford


"The Mail, Express and Sun are not trusted as sources by wikipedia! That's right a website that lets you edit it see them as too unreliable.

The Human truth did a study on Newspapers based on the based on their quality and accuracy the 3 papers I mentioned were the bottom 3!

Look it up it's an interesting read.

Published in The Guardian no doubt..

No, grow up.

Well today the Guardian has published an anti Brexit tirade by a former politician who reportedly claims on average 90k a year in subsidies from the EU.. no bias there then...

They might have political leanings but I'm talking about the quality and validity of the content. Are you not concerned that there are 4 papers deemed unreliable to publish by wikipedia because of past lies?

The Mirror is also deemed unreliable but has less marks against it's name.

"

By Wikipedia..

Hahahahahahaha

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The Mail, Express and Sun are not trusted as sources by wikipedia! That's right a website that lets you edit it see them as too unreliable.

The Human truth did a study on Newspapers based on the based on their quality and accuracy the 3 papers I mentioned were the bottom 3!

Look it up it's an interesting read.

Published in The Guardian no doubt..

No, grow up.

Well today the Guardian has published an anti Brexit tirade by a former politician who reportedly claims on average 90k a year in subsidies from the EU.. no bias there then...

They might have political leanings but I'm talking about the quality and validity of the content. Are you not concerned that there are 4 papers deemed unreliable to publish by wikipedia because of past lies?

The Mirror is also deemed unreliable but has less marks against it's name.

By Wikipedia..

Hahahahahahaha"

Why are you laughing? "In general, tabloid newspapers, such as The Sun, Daily Mirror, the Daily Mail (see also the February 2017 RFC discussing its validity), equivalent television shows, should be used with caution, especially if they are making sensational claims. The Daily Express and Sunday Express should be treated with even greater caution."

A site that literally lets anyone edit it doesn't trust the papers you read pal!!!

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"The Mail, Express and Sun are not trusted as sources by wikipedia! That's right a website that lets you edit it see them as too unreliable.

The Human truth did a study on Newspapers based on the based on their quality and accuracy the 3 papers I mentioned were the bottom 3!

Look it up it's an interesting read.

Published in The Guardian no doubt..

No, grow up.

Well today the Guardian has published an anti Brexit tirade by a former politician who reportedly claims on average 90k a year in subsidies from the EU.. no bias there then..."

As far as I can recall the guardian didnt tap the phones of murdered children

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford

There is only one truth comrades...

Perish any papers that disagree with the woke narrative...

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"There is only one truth comrades...

Perish any papers that disagree with the woke narrative..."

You will need a bigger rod.

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"There is only one truth comrades...

Perish any papers that disagree with the woke narrative..."

So publishing lies is to disagree?

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ackal1Couple  over a year ago

Manchester

The U.K’s wealth is very heavily based on property value.

No government wants the house bubble to burst as it will clearly show how tenuous our finances are. Nothing to do with Brexit as been around a long time.

Didn’t it raise your surprise when with all the Covid shit happening and money needed for PPE and furloughs etc the government gifted the housing market with stamp duty holidays.

That wasn’t needed to keep people in work but was needed to keep houses selling and the market buoyant.

Tony Blair knew this and made sure housing stayed up beat during his tenure . Every Tory Prime minister has done the same including in 2008.

Houses drive and underpin our economy because we only have a small manufacturing base and rely heavily on services.

If our house prices drop we are in probably danger of being declared insolvent .

We can’t afford for houses to be cheaper as it shows as our nations worth.

We don’t have asset wealth and have squandered the North Sea oil revenue so don’t have a capitol wealth fund to fall back on like Norway. We just keep borrowing on our assets.

It’s a bi party thing so my comments are not aimed at any political party.

So yes supply and demand does have local influence but it’s not the main driver.

If houses were cheap we wouldn’t invest in them as individuals or corporations.

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford


"The U.K’s wealth is very heavily based on property value.

No government wants the house bubble to burst as it will clearly show how tenuous our finances are. Nothing to do with Brexit as been around a long time.

Didn’t it raise your surprise when with all the Covid shit happening and money needed for PPE and furloughs etc the government gifted the housing market with stamp duty holidays.

That wasn’t needed to keep people in work but was needed to keep houses selling and the market buoyant.

Tony Blair knew this and made sure housing stayed up beat during his tenure . Every Tory Prime minister has done the same including in 2008.

Houses drive and underpin our economy because we only have a small manufacturing base and rely heavily on services.

If our house prices drop we are in probably danger of being declared insolvent .

We can’t afford for houses to be cheaper as it shows as our nations worth.

We don’t have asset wealth and have squandered the North Sea oil revenue so don’t have a capitol wealth fund to fall back on like Norway. We just keep borrowing on our assets.

It’s a bi party thing so my comments are not aimed at any political party.

So yes supply and demand does have local influence but it’s not the main driver.

If houses were cheap we wouldn’t invest in them as individuals or corporations.

"

Yes.. labour squandered the North Sea oil money...

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford


"There is only one truth comrades...

Perish any papers that disagree with the woke narrative...

You will need a bigger rod."

And you a bigger hook..

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The U.K’s wealth is very heavily based on property value.

No government wants the house bubble to burst as it will clearly show how tenuous our finances are. Nothing to do with Brexit as been around a long time.

Didn’t it raise your surprise when with all the Covid shit happening and money needed for PPE and furloughs etc the government gifted the housing market with stamp duty holidays.

That wasn’t needed to keep people in work but was needed to keep houses selling and the market buoyant.

Tony Blair knew this and made sure housing stayed up beat during his tenure . Every Tory Prime minister has done the same including in 2008.

Houses drive and underpin our economy because we only have a small manufacturing base and rely heavily on services.

If our house prices drop we are in probably danger of being declared insolvent .

We can’t afford for houses to be cheaper as it shows as our nations worth.

We don’t have asset wealth and have squandered the North Sea oil revenue so don’t have a capitol wealth fund to fall back on like Norway. We just keep borrowing on our assets.

It’s a bi party thing so my comments are not aimed at any political party.

So yes supply and demand does have local influence but it’s not the main driver.

If houses were cheap we wouldn’t invest in them as individuals or corporations.

Yes.. labour squandered the North Sea oil money... "

Funnily enough Michael Heseltine said Thatcher did???

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford


"The U.K’s wealth is very heavily based on property value.

No government wants the house bubble to burst as it will clearly show how tenuous our finances are. Nothing to do with Brexit as been around a long time.

Didn’t it raise your surprise when with all the Covid shit happening and money needed for PPE and furloughs etc the government gifted the housing market with stamp duty holidays.

That wasn’t needed to keep people in work but was needed to keep houses selling and the market buoyant.

Tony Blair knew this and made sure housing stayed up beat during his tenure . Every Tory Prime minister has done the same including in 2008.

Houses drive and underpin our economy because we only have a small manufacturing base and rely heavily on services.

If our house prices drop we are in probably danger of being declared insolvent .

We can’t afford for houses to be cheaper as it shows as our nations worth.

We don’t have asset wealth and have squandered the North Sea oil revenue so don’t have a capitol wealth fund to fall back on like Norway. We just keep borrowing on our assets.

It’s a bi party thing so my comments are not aimed at any political party.

So yes supply and demand does have local influence but it’s not the main driver.

If houses were cheap we wouldn’t invest in them as individuals or corporations.

Yes.. labour squandered the North Sea oil money...

Funnily enough Michael Heseltine said Thatcher did???"

And Bliar and Bufoon Brown the Prune Chancellor..

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The U.K’s wealth is very heavily based on property value.

No government wants the house bubble to burst as it will clearly show how tenuous our finances are. Nothing to do with Brexit as been around a long time.

Didn’t it raise your surprise when with all the Covid shit happening and money needed for PPE and furloughs etc the government gifted the housing market with stamp duty holidays.

That wasn’t needed to keep people in work but was needed to keep houses selling and the market buoyant.

Tony Blair knew this and made sure housing stayed up beat during his tenure . Every Tory Prime minister has done the same including in 2008.

Houses drive and underpin our economy because we only have a small manufacturing base and rely heavily on services.

If our house prices drop we are in probably danger of being declared insolvent .

We can’t afford for houses to be cheaper as it shows as our nations worth.

We don’t have asset wealth and have squandered the North Sea oil revenue so don’t have a capitol wealth fund to fall back on like Norway. We just keep borrowing on our assets.

It’s a bi party thing so my comments are not aimed at any political party.

So yes supply and demand does have local influence but it’s not the main driver.

If houses were cheap we wouldn’t invest in them as individuals or corporations.

Yes.. labour squandered the North Sea oil money...

Funnily enough Michael Heseltine said Thatcher did???

And Bliar and Bufoon Brown the Prune Chancellor.. "

You got a source for this? Because I just found plenty that seem to take a different view.

I suppose that Woke Leftie Hesletine is a liar too?

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The U.K’s wealth is very heavily based on property value.

No government wants the house bubble to burst as it will clearly show how tenuous our finances are. Nothing to do with Brexit as been around a long time.

Didn’t it raise your surprise when with all the Covid shit happening and money needed for PPE and furloughs etc the government gifted the housing market with stamp duty holidays.

That wasn’t needed to keep people in work but was needed to keep houses selling and the market buoyant.

Tony Blair knew this and made sure housing stayed up beat during his tenure . Every Tory Prime minister has done the same including in 2008.

Houses drive and underpin our economy because we only have a small manufacturing base and rely heavily on services.

If our house prices drop we are in probably danger of being declared insolvent .

We can’t afford for houses to be cheaper as it shows as our nations worth.

We don’t have asset wealth and have squandered the North Sea oil revenue so don’t have a capitol wealth fund to fall back on like Norway. We just keep borrowing on our assets.

It’s a bi party thing so my comments are not aimed at any political party.

So yes supply and demand does have local influence but it’s not the main driver.

If houses were cheap we wouldn’t invest in them as individuals or corporations.

Yes.. labour squandered the North Sea oil money...

Funnily enough Michael Heseltine said Thatcher did???

And Bliar and Bufoon Brown the Prune Chancellor.. "

Chill Tom, the sun will shine tomorrow

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford


"The U.K’s wealth is very heavily based on property value.

No government wants the house bubble to burst as it will clearly show how tenuous our finances are. Nothing to do with Brexit as been around a long time.

Didn’t it raise your surprise when with all the Covid shit happening and money needed for PPE and furloughs etc the government gifted the housing market with stamp duty holidays.

That wasn’t needed to keep people in work but was needed to keep houses selling and the market buoyant.

Tony Blair knew this and made sure housing stayed up beat during his tenure . Every Tory Prime minister has done the same including in 2008.

Houses drive and underpin our economy because we only have a small manufacturing base and rely heavily on services.

If our house prices drop we are in probably danger of being declared insolvent .

We can’t afford for houses to be cheaper as it shows as our nations worth.

We don’t have asset wealth and have squandered the North Sea oil revenue so don’t have a capitol wealth fund to fall back on like Norway. We just keep borrowing on our assets.

It’s a bi party thing so my comments are not aimed at any political party.

So yes supply and demand does have local influence but it’s not the main driver.

If houses were cheap we wouldn’t invest in them as individuals or corporations.

Yes.. labour squandered the North Sea oil money...

Funnily enough Michael Heseltine said Thatcher did???

And Bliar and Bufoon Brown the Prune Chancellor..

You got a source for this? Because I just found plenty that seem to take a different view.

I suppose that Woke Leftie Hesletine is a liar too?"

No. He just takes his agricultural subsidies and moans that they may no longer exist..

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The U.K’s wealth is very heavily based on property value.

No government wants the house bubble to burst as it will clearly show how tenuous our finances are. Nothing to do with Brexit as been around a long time.

Didn’t it raise your surprise when with all the Covid shit happening and money needed for PPE and furloughs etc the government gifted the housing market with stamp duty holidays.

That wasn’t needed to keep people in work but was needed to keep houses selling and the market buoyant.

Tony Blair knew this and made sure housing stayed up beat during his tenure . Every Tory Prime minister has done the same including in 2008.

Houses drive and underpin our economy because we only have a small manufacturing base and rely heavily on services.

If our house prices drop we are in probably danger of being declared insolvent .

We can’t afford for houses to be cheaper as it shows as our nations worth.

We don’t have asset wealth and have squandered the North Sea oil revenue so don’t have a capitol wealth fund to fall back on like Norway. We just keep borrowing on our assets.

It’s a bi party thing so my comments are not aimed at any political party.

So yes supply and demand does have local influence but it’s not the main driver.

If houses were cheap we wouldn’t invest in them as individuals or corporations.

Yes.. labour squandered the North Sea oil money...

Funnily enough Michael Heseltine said Thatcher did???

And Bliar and Bufoon Brown the Prune Chancellor..

You got a source for this? Because I just found plenty that seem to take a different view.

I suppose that Woke Leftie Hesletine is a liar too?

No. He just takes his agricultural subsidies and moans that they may no longer exist.."

So do you have a source you can quote? preferably not one banned by Wikipedia

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford


"The U.K’s wealth is very heavily based on property value.

No government wants the house bubble to burst as it will clearly show how tenuous our finances are. Nothing to do with Brexit as been around a long time.

Didn’t it raise your surprise when with all the Covid shit happening and money needed for PPE and furloughs etc the government gifted the housing market with stamp duty holidays.

That wasn’t needed to keep people in work but was needed to keep houses selling and the market buoyant.

Tony Blair knew this and made sure housing stayed up beat during his tenure . Every Tory Prime minister has done the same including in 2008.

Houses drive and underpin our economy because we only have a small manufacturing base and rely heavily on services.

If our house prices drop we are in probably danger of being declared insolvent .

We can’t afford for houses to be cheaper as it shows as our nations worth.

We don’t have asset wealth and have squandered the North Sea oil revenue so don’t have a capitol wealth fund to fall back on like Norway. We just keep borrowing on our assets.

It’s a bi party thing so my comments are not aimed at any political party.

So yes supply and demand does have local influence but it’s not the main driver.

If houses were cheap we wouldn’t invest in them as individuals or corporations.

Yes.. labour squandered the North Sea oil money...

Funnily enough Michael Heseltine said Thatcher did???

And Bliar and Bufoon Brown the Prune Chancellor..

You got a source for this? Because I just found plenty that seem to take a different view.

I suppose that Woke Leftie Hesletine is a liar too?

No. He just takes his agricultural subsidies and moans that they may no longer exist..

So do you have a source you can quote? preferably not one banned by Wikipedia"

Search engines are your friend my woke friend..

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The U.K’s wealth is very heavily based on property value.

No government wants the house bubble to burst as it will clearly show how tenuous our finances are. Nothing to do with Brexit as been around a long time.

Didn’t it raise your surprise when with all the Covid shit happening and money needed for PPE and furloughs etc the government gifted the housing market with stamp duty holidays.

That wasn’t needed to keep people in work but was needed to keep houses selling and the market buoyant.

Tony Blair knew this and made sure housing stayed up beat during his tenure . Every Tory Prime minister has done the same including in 2008.

Houses drive and underpin our economy because we only have a small manufacturing base and rely heavily on services.

If our house prices drop we are in probably danger of being declared insolvent .

We can’t afford for houses to be cheaper as it shows as our nations worth.

We don’t have asset wealth and have squandered the North Sea oil revenue so don’t have a capitol wealth fund to fall back on like Norway. We just keep borrowing on our assets.

It’s a bi party thing so my comments are not aimed at any political party.

So yes supply and demand does have local influence but it’s not the main driver.

If houses were cheap we wouldn’t invest in them as individuals or corporations.

Yes.. labour squandered the North Sea oil money...

Funnily enough Michael Heseltine said Thatcher did???

And Bliar and Bufoon Brown the Prune Chancellor..

You got a source for this? Because I just found plenty that seem to take a different view.

I suppose that Woke Leftie Hesletine is a liar too?

No. He just takes his agricultural subsidies and moans that they may no longer exist..

So do you have a source you can quote? preferably not one banned by Wikipedia

Search engines are your friend my woke friend.."

I'll just put it down as "your opinion" then.

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford


"The U.K’s wealth is very heavily based on property value.

No government wants the house bubble to burst as it will clearly show how tenuous our finances are. Nothing to do with Brexit as been around a long time.

Didn’t it raise your surprise when with all the Covid shit happening and money needed for PPE and furloughs etc the government gifted the housing market with stamp duty holidays.

That wasn’t needed to keep people in work but was needed to keep houses selling and the market buoyant.

Tony Blair knew this and made sure housing stayed up beat during his tenure . Every Tory Prime minister has done the same including in 2008.

Houses drive and underpin our economy because we only have a small manufacturing base and rely heavily on services.

If our house prices drop we are in probably danger of being declared insolvent .

We can’t afford for houses to be cheaper as it shows as our nations worth.

We don’t have asset wealth and have squandered the North Sea oil revenue so don’t have a capitol wealth fund to fall back on like Norway. We just keep borrowing on our assets.

It’s a bi party thing so my comments are not aimed at any political party.

So yes supply and demand does have local influence but it’s not the main driver.

If houses were cheap we wouldn’t invest in them as individuals or corporations.

Yes.. labour squandered the North Sea oil money...

Funnily enough Michael Heseltine said Thatcher did???

And Bliar and Bufoon Brown the Prune Chancellor..

You got a source for this? Because I just found plenty that seem to take a different view.

I suppose that Woke Leftie Hesletine is a liar too?

No. He just takes his agricultural subsidies and moans that they may no longer exist..

So do you have a source you can quote? preferably not one banned by Wikipedia

Search engines are your friend my woke friend..

I'll just put it down as "your opinion" then. "

And an experienced reader..

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The U.K’s wealth is very heavily based on property value.

No government wants the house bubble to burst as it will clearly show how tenuous our finances are. Nothing to do with Brexit as been around a long time.

Didn’t it raise your surprise when with all the Covid shit happening and money needed for PPE and furloughs etc the government gifted the housing market with stamp duty holidays.

That wasn’t needed to keep people in work but was needed to keep houses selling and the market buoyant.

Tony Blair knew this and made sure housing stayed up beat during his tenure . Every Tory Prime minister has done the same including in 2008.

Houses drive and underpin our economy because we only have a small manufacturing base and rely heavily on services.

If our house prices drop we are in probably danger of being declared insolvent .

We can’t afford for houses to be cheaper as it shows as our nations worth.

We don’t have asset wealth and have squandered the North Sea oil revenue so don’t have a capitol wealth fund to fall back on like Norway. We just keep borrowing on our assets.

It’s a bi party thing so my comments are not aimed at any political party.

So yes supply and demand does have local influence but it’s not the main driver.

If houses were cheap we wouldn’t invest in them as individuals or corporations.

Yes.. labour squandered the North Sea oil money...

Funnily enough Michael Heseltine said Thatcher did???

And Bliar and Bufoon Brown the Prune Chancellor..

You got a source for this? Because I just found plenty that seem to take a different view.

I suppose that Woke Leftie Hesletine is a liar too?

No. He just takes his agricultural subsidies and moans that they may no longer exist..

So do you have a source you can quote? preferably not one banned by Wikipedia

Search engines are your friend my woke friend..

I'll just put it down as "your opinion" then.

And an experienced reader.. "

I'm not sure The Express and the the Village with 3 corners makes you an experienced reader?

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford


"The U.K’s wealth is very heavily based on property value.

No government wants the house bubble to burst as it will clearly show how tenuous our finances are. Nothing to do with Brexit as been around a long time.

Didn’t it raise your surprise when with all the Covid shit happening and money needed for PPE and furloughs etc the government gifted the housing market with stamp duty holidays.

That wasn’t needed to keep people in work but was needed to keep houses selling and the market buoyant.

Tony Blair knew this and made sure housing stayed up beat during his tenure . Every Tory Prime minister has done the same including in 2008.

Houses drive and underpin our economy because we only have a small manufacturing base and rely heavily on services.

If our house prices drop we are in probably danger of being declared insolvent .

We can’t afford for houses to be cheaper as it shows as our nations worth.

We don’t have asset wealth and have squandered the North Sea oil revenue so don’t have a capitol wealth fund to fall back on like Norway. We just keep borrowing on our assets.

It’s a bi party thing so my comments are not aimed at any political party.

So yes supply and demand does have local influence but it’s not the main driver.

If houses were cheap we wouldn’t invest in them as individuals or corporations.

Yes.. labour squandered the North Sea oil money...

Funnily enough Michael Heseltine said Thatcher did???

And Bliar and Bufoon Brown the Prune Chancellor..

You got a source for this? Because I just found plenty that seem to take a different view.

I suppose that Woke Leftie Hesletine is a liar too?

No. He just takes his agricultural subsidies and moans that they may no longer exist..

So do you have a source you can quote? preferably not one banned by Wikipedia

Search engines are your friend my woke friend..

I'll just put it down as "your opinion" then.

And an experienced reader..

I'm not sure The Express and the the Village with 3 corners makes you an experienced reader?"

Well I read widely but the best to light fires is definitely the Guardian..

It lies like a cheap watch..

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The U.K’s wealth is very heavily based on property value.

No government wants the house bubble to burst as it will clearly show how tenuous our finances are. Nothing to do with Brexit as been around a long time.

Didn’t it raise your surprise when with all the Covid shit happening and money needed for PPE and furloughs etc the government gifted the housing market with stamp duty holidays.

That wasn’t needed to keep people in work but was needed to keep houses selling and the market buoyant.

Tony Blair knew this and made sure housing stayed up beat during his tenure . Every Tory Prime minister has done the same including in 2008.

Houses drive and underpin our economy because we only have a small manufacturing base and rely heavily on services.

If our house prices drop we are in probably danger of being declared insolvent .

We can’t afford for houses to be cheaper as it shows as our nations worth.

We don’t have asset wealth and have squandered the North Sea oil revenue so don’t have a capitol wealth fund to fall back on like Norway. We just keep borrowing on our assets.

It’s a bi party thing so my comments are not aimed at any political party.

So yes supply and demand does have local influence but it’s not the main driver.

If houses were cheap we wouldn’t invest in them as individuals or corporations.

Yes.. labour squandered the North Sea oil money...

Funnily enough Michael Heseltine said Thatcher did???

And Bliar and Bufoon Brown the Prune Chancellor..

You got a source for this? Because I just found plenty that seem to take a different view.

I suppose that Woke Leftie Hesletine is a liar too?

No. He just takes his agricultural subsidies and moans that they may no longer exist..

So do you have a source you can quote? preferably not one banned by Wikipedia

Search engines are your friend my woke friend..

I'll just put it down as "your opinion" then.

And an experienced reader..

I'm not sure The Express and the the Village with 3 corners makes you an experienced reader?

Well I read widely but the best to light fires is definitely the Guardian..

It lies like a cheap watch.."

Can you back that up with a source? What's your favourite paper?

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford


"The U.K’s wealth is very heavily based on property value.

No government wants the house bubble to burst as it will clearly show how tenuous our finances are. Nothing to do with Brexit as been around a long time.

Didn’t it raise your surprise when with all the Covid shit happening and money needed for PPE and furloughs etc the government gifted the housing market with stamp duty holidays.

That wasn’t needed to keep people in work but was needed to keep houses selling and the market buoyant.

Tony Blair knew this and made sure housing stayed up beat during his tenure . Every Tory Prime minister has done the same including in 2008.

Houses drive and underpin our economy because we only have a small manufacturing base and rely heavily on services.

If our house prices drop we are in probably danger of being declared insolvent .

We can’t afford for houses to be cheaper as it shows as our nations worth.

We don’t have asset wealth and have squandered the North Sea oil revenue so don’t have a capitol wealth fund to fall back on like Norway. We just keep borrowing on our assets.

It’s a bi party thing so my comments are not aimed at any political party.

So yes supply and demand does have local influence but it’s not the main driver.

If houses were cheap we wouldn’t invest in them as individuals or corporations.

Yes.. labour squandered the North Sea oil money...

Funnily enough Michael Heseltine said Thatcher did???

And Bliar and Bufoon Brown the Prune Chancellor..

You got a source for this? Because I just found plenty that seem to take a different view.

I suppose that Woke Leftie Hesletine is a liar too?

No. He just takes his agricultural subsidies and moans that they may no longer exist..

So do you have a source you can quote? preferably not one banned by Wikipedia

Search engines are your friend my woke friend..

I'll just put it down as "your opinion" then.

And an experienced reader..

I'm not sure The Express and the the Village with 3 corners makes you an experienced reader?

Well I read widely but the best to light fires is definitely the Guardian..

It lies like a cheap watch..

Can you back that up with a source? What's your favourite paper? "

Toilet paper.. I tend to cut the Guardian into 4 inch squares..

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The U.K’s wealth is very heavily based on property value.

No government wants the house bubble to burst as it will clearly show how tenuous our finances are. Nothing to do with Brexit as been around a long time.

Didn’t it raise your surprise when with all the Covid shit happening and money needed for PPE and furloughs etc the government gifted the housing market with stamp duty holidays.

That wasn’t needed to keep people in work but was needed to keep houses selling and the market buoyant.

Tony Blair knew this and made sure housing stayed up beat during his tenure . Every Tory Prime minister has done the same including in 2008.

Houses drive and underpin our economy because we only have a small manufacturing base and rely heavily on services.

If our house prices drop we are in probably danger of being declared insolvent .

We can’t afford for houses to be cheaper as it shows as our nations worth.

We don’t have asset wealth and have squandered the North Sea oil revenue so don’t have a capitol wealth fund to fall back on like Norway. We just keep borrowing on our assets.

It’s a bi party thing so my comments are not aimed at any political party.

So yes supply and demand does have local influence but it’s not the main driver.

If houses were cheap we wouldn’t invest in them as individuals or corporations.

Yes.. labour squandered the North Sea oil money...

Funnily enough Michael Heseltine said Thatcher did???

And Bliar and Bufoon Brown the Prune Chancellor..

You got a source for this? Because I just found plenty that seem to take a different view.

I suppose that Woke Leftie Hesletine is a liar too?

No. He just takes his agricultural subsidies and moans that they may no longer exist..

So do you have a source you can quote? preferably not one banned by Wikipedia

Search engines are your friend my woke friend..

I'll just put it down as "your opinion" then.

And an experienced reader..

I'm not sure The Express and the the Village with 3 corners makes you an experienced reader?

Well I read widely but the best to light fires is definitely the Guardian..

It lies like a cheap watch..

Can you back that up with a source? What's your favourite paper?

Toilet paper.. I tend to cut the Guardian into 4 inch squares.."

I don't read the Guardian pal, I'm just pointing out it's far more valid than most papers....once again: What's your favourite paper and also do you have a source for the Guardian telling lies?

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The U.K’s wealth is very heavily based on property value.

No government wants the house bubble to burst as it will clearly show how tenuous our finances are. Nothing to do with Brexit as been around a long time.

Didn’t it raise your surprise when with all the Covid shit happening and money needed for PPE and furloughs etc the government gifted the housing market with stamp duty holidays.

That wasn’t needed to keep people in work but was needed to keep houses selling and the market buoyant.

Tony Blair knew this and made sure housing stayed up beat during his tenure . Every Tory Prime minister has done the same including in 2008.

Houses drive and underpin our economy because we only have a small manufacturing base and rely heavily on services.

If our house prices drop we are in probably danger of being declared insolvent .

We can’t afford for houses to be cheaper as it shows as our nations worth.

We don’t have asset wealth and have squandered the North Sea oil revenue so don’t have a capitol wealth fund to fall back on like Norway. We just keep borrowing on our assets.

It’s a bi party thing so my comments are not aimed at any political party.

So yes supply and demand does have local influence but it’s not the main driver.

If houses were cheap we wouldn’t invest in them as individuals or corporations.

Yes.. labour squandered the North Sea oil money...

Funnily enough Michael Heseltine said Thatcher did???

And Bliar and Bufoon Brown the Prune Chancellor..

You got a source for this? Because I just found plenty that seem to take a different view.

I suppose that Woke Leftie Hesletine is a liar too?

No. He just takes his agricultural subsidies and moans that they may no longer exist..

So do you have a source you can quote? preferably not one banned by Wikipedia

Search engines are your friend my woke friend..

I'll just put it down as "your opinion" then.

And an experienced reader..

I'm not sure The Express and the the Village with 3 corners makes you an experienced reader?

Well I read widely but the best to light fires is definitely the Guardian..

It lies like a cheap watch..

Can you back that up with a source? What's your favourite paper?

Toilet paper.. I tend to cut the Guardian into 4 inch squares.."

It seems a bit moronic to fund a paper you clearly hate! Or was that your attempt at humour?

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ackal1Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"The U.K’s wealth is very heavily based on property value.

No government wants the house bubble to burst as it will clearly show how tenuous our finances are. Nothing to do with Brexit as been around a long time.

Didn’t it raise your surprise when with all the Covid shit happening and money needed for PPE and furloughs etc the government gifted the housing market with stamp duty holidays.

That wasn’t needed to keep people in work but was needed to keep houses selling and the market buoyant.

Tony Blair knew this and made sure housing stayed up beat during his tenure . Every Tory Prime minister has done the same including in 2008.

Houses drive and underpin our economy because we only have a small manufacturing base and rely heavily on services.

If our house prices drop we are in probably danger of being declared insolvent .

We can’t afford for houses to be cheaper as it shows as our nations worth.

We don’t have asset wealth and have squandered the North Sea oil revenue so don’t have a capitol wealth fund to fall back on like Norway. We just keep borrowing on our assets.

It’s a bi party thing so my comments are not aimed at any political party.

So yes supply and demand does have local influence but it’s not the main driver.

If houses were cheap we wouldn’t invest in them as individuals or corporations.

Yes.. labour squandered the North Sea oil money... "

The first four years of North Sea oil revenue was under Ted Heath

Since oil was first produced 1969 The Conservative party has been mostly in charge so you're talking rubbish.

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The U.K’s wealth is very heavily based on property value.

No government wants the house bubble to burst as it will clearly show how tenuous our finances are. Nothing to do with Brexit as been around a long time.

Didn’t it raise your surprise when with all the Covid shit happening and money needed for PPE and furloughs etc the government gifted the housing market with stamp duty holidays.

That wasn’t needed to keep people in work but was needed to keep houses selling and the market buoyant.

Tony Blair knew this and made sure housing stayed up beat during his tenure . Every Tory Prime minister has done the same including in 2008.

Houses drive and underpin our economy because we only have a small manufacturing base and rely heavily on services.

If our house prices drop we are in probably danger of being declared insolvent .

We can’t afford for houses to be cheaper as it shows as our nations worth.

We don’t have asset wealth and have squandered the North Sea oil revenue so don’t have a capitol wealth fund to fall back on like Norway. We just keep borrowing on our assets.

It’s a bi party thing so my comments are not aimed at any political party.

So yes supply and demand does have local influence but it’s not the main driver.

If houses were cheap we wouldn’t invest in them as individuals or corporations.

Yes.. labour squandered the North Sea oil money...

The first four years of North Sea oil revenue was under Ted Heath

Since oil was first produced 1969 The Conservative party has been mostly in charge so you're talking rubbish. "

I'm not sure he'll accept that! he didn't even accept Heseltine Blaming Thatcher for the problem.

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford


"The U.K’s wealth is very heavily based on property value.

No government wants the house bubble to burst as it will clearly show how tenuous our finances are. Nothing to do with Brexit as been around a long time.

Didn’t it raise your surprise when with all the Covid shit happening and money needed for PPE and furloughs etc the government gifted the housing market with stamp duty holidays.

That wasn’t needed to keep people in work but was needed to keep houses selling and the market buoyant.

Tony Blair knew this and made sure housing stayed up beat during his tenure . Every Tory Prime minister has done the same including in 2008.

Houses drive and underpin our economy because we only have a small manufacturing base and rely heavily on services.

If our house prices drop we are in probably danger of being declared insolvent .

We can’t afford for houses to be cheaper as it shows as our nations worth.

We don’t have asset wealth and have squandered the North Sea oil revenue so don’t have a capitol wealth fund to fall back on like Norway. We just keep borrowing on our assets.

It’s a bi party thing so my comments are not aimed at any political party.

So yes supply and demand does have local influence but it’s not the main driver.

If houses were cheap we wouldn’t invest in them as individuals or corporations.

Yes.. labour squandered the North Sea oil money...

Funnily enough Michael Heseltine said Thatcher did???

And Bliar and Bufoon Brown the Prune Chancellor..

You got a source for this? Because I just found plenty that seem to take a different view.

I suppose that Woke Leftie Hesletine is a liar too?

No. He just takes his agricultural subsidies and moans that they may no longer exist..

So do you have a source you can quote? preferably not one banned by Wikipedia

Search engines are your friend my woke friend..

I'll just put it down as "your opinion" then.

And an experienced reader..

I'm not sure The Express and the the Village with 3 corners makes you an experienced reader?

Well I read widely but the best to light fires is definitely the Guardian..

It lies like a cheap watch..

Can you back that up with a source? What's your favourite paper?

Toilet paper.. I tend to cut the Guardian into 4 inch squares..

It seems a bit moronic to fund a paper you clearly hate! Or was that your attempt at humour?"

Fund a paper...

Not on your Nellie and certainly not the Guardian.

Not fit to wrap my chips in

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The U.K’s wealth is very heavily based on property value.

No government wants the house bubble to burst as it will clearly show how tenuous our finances are. Nothing to do with Brexit as been around a long time.

Didn’t it raise your surprise when with all the Covid shit happening and money needed for PPE and furloughs etc the government gifted the housing market with stamp duty holidays.

That wasn’t needed to keep people in work but was needed to keep houses selling and the market buoyant.

Tony Blair knew this and made sure housing stayed up beat during his tenure . Every Tory Prime minister has done the same including in 2008.

Houses drive and underpin our economy because we only have a small manufacturing base and rely heavily on services.

If our house prices drop we are in probably danger of being declared insolvent .

We can’t afford for houses to be cheaper as it shows as our nations worth.

We don’t have asset wealth and have squandered the North Sea oil revenue so don’t have a capitol wealth fund to fall back on like Norway. We just keep borrowing on our assets.

It’s a bi party thing so my comments are not aimed at any political party.

So yes supply and demand does have local influence but it’s not the main driver.

If houses were cheap we wouldn’t invest in them as individuals or corporations.

Yes.. labour squandered the North Sea oil money...

Funnily enough Michael Heseltine said Thatcher did???

And Bliar and Bufoon Brown the Prune Chancellor..

You got a source for this? Because I just found plenty that seem to take a different view.

I suppose that Woke Leftie Hesletine is a liar too?

No. He just takes his agricultural subsidies and moans that they may no longer exist..

So do you have a source you can quote? preferably not one banned by Wikipedia

Search engines are your friend my woke friend..

I'll just put it down as "your opinion" then.

And an experienced reader..

I'm not sure The Express and the the Village with 3 corners makes you an experienced reader?

Well I read widely but the best to light fires is definitely the Guardian..

It lies like a cheap watch..

Can you back that up with a source? What's your favourite paper?

Toilet paper.. I tend to cut the Guardian into 4 inch squares..

It seems a bit moronic to fund a paper you clearly hate! Or was that your attempt at humour?

Fund a paper...

Not on your Nellie and certainly not the Guardian.

Not fit to wrap my chips in"

"The Daily Mail transgressed the press regulator rules no fewer than 50 times in 2017, making it by far the biggest offender of the year out of the publications monitored by IPSO.

This was more than the combined total of the next three worst offenders (Daily Express, The Sun and the Daily Telegraph) and far in excess of its 2016 total, when the paper also topped the charts.

The 2017 figures show an overall rise in IPSO sanctions compared to 2016, which could be due to worsening press standards or greater vigilance among those monitoring and reporting transgressions to IPSO.

In terms of overall figures, the Daily Mail chalked up 50 offences. The Daily Express was second worst with 19, then The Sun with 17, the Daily Telegraph with 10, The Times with 8, the Daily Star with 6 and the Daily Mirror with 5."

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford


"The U.K’s wealth is very heavily based on property value.

No government wants the house bubble to burst as it will clearly show how tenuous our finances are. Nothing to do with Brexit as been around a long time.

Didn’t it raise your surprise when with all the Covid shit happening and money needed for PPE and furloughs etc the government gifted the housing market with stamp duty holidays.

That wasn’t needed to keep people in work but was needed to keep houses selling and the market buoyant.

Tony Blair knew this and made sure housing stayed up beat during his tenure . Every Tory Prime minister has done the same including in 2008.

Houses drive and underpin our economy because we only have a small manufacturing base and rely heavily on services.

If our house prices drop we are in probably danger of being declared insolvent .

We can’t afford for houses to be cheaper as it shows as our nations worth.

We don’t have asset wealth and have squandered the North Sea oil revenue so don’t have a capitol wealth fund to fall back on like Norway. We just keep borrowing on our assets.

It’s a bi party thing so my comments are not aimed at any political party.

So yes supply and demand does have local influence but it’s not the main driver.

If houses were cheap we wouldn’t invest in them as individuals or corporations.

Yes.. labour squandered the North Sea oil money...

Funnily enough Michael Heseltine said Thatcher did???

And Bliar and Bufoon Brown the Prune Chancellor..

You got a source for this? Because I just found plenty that seem to take a different view.

I suppose that Woke Leftie Hesletine is a liar too?

No. He just takes his agricultural subsidies and moans that they may no longer exist..

So do you have a source you can quote? preferably not one banned by Wikipedia

Search engines are your friend my woke friend..

I'll just put it down as "your opinion" then.

And an experienced reader..

I'm not sure The Express and the the Village with 3 corners makes you an experienced reader?

Well I read widely but the best to light fires is definitely the Guardian..

It lies like a cheap watch..

Can you back that up with a source? What's your favourite paper?

Toilet paper.. I tend to cut the Guardian into 4 inch squares..

It seems a bit moronic to fund a paper you clearly hate! Or was that your attempt at humour?

Fund a paper...

Not on your Nellie and certainly not the Guardian.

Not fit to wrap my chips in

"The Daily Mail transgressed the press regulator rules no fewer than 50 times in 2017, making it by far the biggest offender of the year out of the publications monitored by IPSO.

This was more than the combined total of the next three worst offenders (Daily Express, The Sun and the Daily Telegraph) and far in excess of its 2016 total, when the paper also topped the charts.

The 2017 figures show an overall rise in IPSO sanctions compared to 2016, which could be due to worsening press standards or greater vigilance among those monitoring and reporting transgressions to IPSO.

In terms of overall figures, the Daily Mail chalked up 50 offences. The Daily Express was second worst with 19, then The Sun with 17, the Daily Telegraph with 10, The Times with 8, the Daily Star with 6 and the Daily Mirror with 5.""

You are really boring me now..

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The U.K’s wealth is very heavily based on property value.

No government wants the house bubble to burst as it will clearly show how tenuous our finances are. Nothing to do with Brexit as been around a long time.

Didn’t it raise your surprise when with all the Covid shit happening and money needed for PPE and furloughs etc the government gifted the housing market with stamp duty holidays.

That wasn’t needed to keep people in work but was needed to keep houses selling and the market buoyant.

Tony Blair knew this and made sure housing stayed up beat during his tenure . Every Tory Prime minister has done the same including in 2008.

Houses drive and underpin our economy because we only have a small manufacturing base and rely heavily on services.

If our house prices drop we are in probably danger of being declared insolvent .

We can’t afford for houses to be cheaper as it shows as our nations worth.

We don’t have asset wealth and have squandered the North Sea oil revenue so don’t have a capitol wealth fund to fall back on like Norway. We just keep borrowing on our assets.

It’s a bi party thing so my comments are not aimed at any political party.

So yes supply and demand does have local influence but it’s not the main driver.

If houses were cheap we wouldn’t invest in them as individuals or corporations.

Yes.. labour squandered the North Sea oil money...

Funnily enough Michael Heseltine said Thatcher did???

And Bliar and Bufoon Brown the Prune Chancellor..

You got a source for this? Because I just found plenty that seem to take a different view.

I suppose that Woke Leftie Hesletine is a liar too?

No. He just takes his agricultural subsidies and moans that they may no longer exist..

So do you have a source you can quote? preferably not one banned by Wikipedia

Search engines are your friend my woke friend..

I'll just put it down as "your opinion" then.

And an experienced reader..

I'm not sure The Express and the the Village with 3 corners makes you an experienced reader?

Well I read widely but the best to light fires is definitely the Guardian..

It lies like a cheap watch..

Can you back that up with a source? What's your favourite paper?

Toilet paper.. I tend to cut the Guardian into 4 inch squares..

It seems a bit moronic to fund a paper you clearly hate! Or was that your attempt at humour?

Fund a paper...

Not on your Nellie and certainly not the Guardian.

Not fit to wrap my chips in

"The Daily Mail transgressed the press regulator rules no fewer than 50 times in 2017, making it by far the biggest offender of the year out of the publications monitored by IPSO.

This was more than the combined total of the next three worst offenders (Daily Express, The Sun and the Daily Telegraph) and far in excess of its 2016 total, when the paper also topped the charts.

The 2017 figures show an overall rise in IPSO sanctions compared to 2016, which could be due to worsening press standards or greater vigilance among those monitoring and reporting transgressions to IPSO.

In terms of overall figures, the Daily Mail chalked up 50 offences. The Daily Express was second worst with 19, then The Sun with 17, the Daily Telegraph with 10, The Times with 8, the Daily Star with 6 and the Daily Mirror with 5."

You are really boring me now.."

But, I thought you liked reading pal?

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

 

By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford


"The U.K’s wealth is very heavily based on property value.

No government wants the house bubble to burst as it will clearly show how tenuous our finances are. Nothing to do with Brexit as been around a long time.

Didn’t it raise your surprise when with all the Covid shit happening and money needed for PPE and furloughs etc the government gifted the housing market with stamp duty holidays.

That wasn’t needed to keep people in work but was needed to keep houses selling and the market buoyant.

Tony Blair knew this and made sure housing stayed up beat during his tenure . Every Tory Prime minister has done the same including in 2008.

Houses drive and underpin our economy because we only have a small manufacturing base and rely heavily on services.

If our house prices drop we are in probably danger of being declared insolvent .

We can’t afford for houses to be cheaper as it shows as our nations worth.

We don’t have asset wealth and have squandered the North Sea oil revenue so don’t have a capitol wealth fund to fall back on like Norway. We just keep borrowing on our assets.

It’s a bi party thing so my comments are not aimed at any political party.

So yes supply and demand does have local influence but it’s not the main driver.

If houses were cheap we wouldn’t invest in them as individuals or corporations.

Yes.. labour squandered the North Sea oil money...

Funnily enough Michael Heseltine said Thatcher did???

And Bliar and Bufoon Brown the Prune Chancellor..

You got a source for this? Because I just found plenty that seem to take a different view.

I suppose that Woke Leftie Hesletine is a liar too?

No. He just takes his agricultural subsidies and moans that they may no longer exist..

So do you have a source you can quote? preferably not one banned by Wikipedia

Search engines are your friend my woke friend..

I'll just put it down as "your opinion" then.

And an experienced reader..

I'm not sure The Express and the the Village with 3 corners makes you an experienced reader?

Well I read widely but the best to light fires is definitely the Guardian..

It lies like a cheap watch..

Can you back that up with a source? What's your favourite paper?

Toilet paper.. I tend to cut the Guardian into 4 inch squares..

It seems a bit moronic to fund a paper you clearly hate! Or was that your attempt at humour?

Fund a paper...

Not on your Nellie and certainly not the Guardian.

Not fit to wrap my chips in

"The Daily Mail transgressed the press regulator rules no fewer than 50 times in 2017, making it by far the biggest offender of the year out of the publications monitored by IPSO.

This was more than the combined total of the next three worst offenders (Daily Express, The Sun and the Daily Telegraph) and far in excess of its 2016 total, when the paper also topped the charts.

The 2017 figures show an overall rise in IPSO sanctions compared to 2016, which could be due to worsening press standards or greater vigilance among those monitoring and reporting transgressions to IPSO.

In terms of overall figures, the Daily Mail chalked up 50 offences. The Daily Express was second worst with 19, then The Sun with 17, the Daily Telegraph with 10, The Times with 8, the Daily Star with 6 and the Daily Mirror with 5."

You are really boring me now..

But, I thought you liked reading pal?"

Well I like reading interesting things.. your long winded posts on the other hand...

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

  

By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The U.K’s wealth is very heavily based on property value.

No government wants the house bubble to burst as it will clearly show how tenuous our finances are. Nothing to do with Brexit as been around a long time.

Didn’t it raise your surprise when with all the Covid shit happening and money needed for PPE and furloughs etc the government gifted the housing market with stamp duty holidays.

That wasn’t needed to keep people in work but was needed to keep houses selling and the market buoyant.

Tony Blair knew this and made sure housing stayed up beat during his tenure . Every Tory Prime minister has done the same including in 2008.

Houses drive and underpin our economy because we only have a small manufacturing base and rely heavily on services.

If our house prices drop we are in probably danger of being declared insolvent .

We can’t afford for houses to be cheaper as it shows as our nations worth.

We don’t have asset wealth and have squandered the North Sea oil revenue so don’t have a capitol wealth fund to fall back on like Norway. We just keep borrowing on our assets.

It’s a bi party thing so my comments are not aimed at any political party.

So yes supply and demand does have local influence but it’s not the main driver.

If houses were cheap we wouldn’t invest in them as individuals or corporations.

Yes.. labour squandered the North Sea oil money...

Funnily enough Michael Heseltine said Thatcher did???

And Bliar and Bufoon Brown the Prune Chancellor..

You got a source for this? Because I just found plenty that seem to take a different view.

I suppose that Woke Leftie Hesletine is a liar too?

No. He just takes his agricultural subsidies and moans that they may no longer exist..

So do you have a source you can quote? preferably not one banned by Wikipedia

Search engines are your friend my woke friend..

I'll just put it down as "your opinion" then.

And an experienced reader..

I'm not sure The Express and the the Village with 3 corners makes you an experienced reader?

Well I read widely but the best to light fires is definitely the Guardian..

It lies like a cheap watch..

Can you back that up with a source? What's your favourite paper?

Toilet paper.. I tend to cut the Guardian into 4 inch squares..

It seems a bit moronic to fund a paper you clearly hate! Or was that your attempt at humour?

Fund a paper...

Not on your Nellie and certainly not the Guardian.

Not fit to wrap my chips in

"The Daily Mail transgressed the press regulator rules no fewer than 50 times in 2017, making it by far the biggest offender of the year out of the publications monitored by IPSO.

This was more than the combined total of the next three worst offenders (Daily Express, The Sun and the Daily Telegraph) and far in excess of its 2016 total, when the paper also topped the charts.

The 2017 figures show an overall rise in IPSO sanctions compared to 2016, which could be due to worsening press standards or greater vigilance among those monitoring and reporting transgressions to IPSO.

In terms of overall figures, the Daily Mail chalked up 50 offences. The Daily Express was second worst with 19, then The Sun with 17, the Daily Telegraph with 10, The Times with 8, the Daily Star with 6 and the Daily Mirror with 5."

You are really boring me now..

But, I thought you liked reading pal?

Well I like reading interesting things.. your long winded posts on the other hand..."

So, you're a lazy reader! that explains a lot.

Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote or View forums list

» Add a new message to this topic

0.2656

0