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"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal." The EU should shoud have the upper hand it's Boris and his bunch of moron cabinet little Englanders. Boris can't have his cake and eat it. | |||
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"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal. The EU should shoud have the upper hand it's Boris and his bunch of moron cabinet little Englanders. Boris can't have his cake and eat it. " How would you describe the people in Wales Scotland and Ireland who voted for Brexit? | |||
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"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal. The EU should shoud have the upper hand it's Boris and his bunch of moron cabinet little Englanders. Boris can't have his cake and eat it. How would you describe the people in Wales Scotland and Ireland who voted for Brexit? " They would probably call them little islanders | |||
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"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal. The EU should shoud have the upper hand it's Boris and his bunch of moron cabinet little Englanders. Boris can't have his cake and eat it. How would you describe the people in Wales Scotland and Ireland who voted for Brexit? " Duped.. Respect they voted that way and the result, if it comes good then hands up and will say yeah got that one wrong but I think the implications for the ordinary working man and woman will not be positive.. | |||
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"Wales heavily rely on eu subsidies..going to be interesting to see what happens post Brexit." Ditto parts of the West country.. Given the recent town centre funding debacle from this government I just don't see this wave of altruism in investing in areas they have not been interested in before.. No votes for them unlike the shires.. | |||
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"Wales heavily rely on eu subsidies..going to be interesting to see what happens post Brexit. Ditto parts of the West country.. Given the recent town centre funding debacle from this government I just don't see this wave of altruism in investing in areas they have not been interested in before.. No votes for them unlike the shires.." And they have to 'level up'the north Still I'm sure with all that money we are saving there will be plenty to go round. | |||
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"Frankly only the duped can believe that there is any such thing as EU money/subsidies " True We will all be much better off post Brexit | |||
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"I can’t see how there would be a deal unless the U.K. gives up rights to complete because the EU still want control over what we as a nation would be able to do. They want the so called level playing field to stop the U.K. growing " The EU are protecting their 27 members interests , anyway, I keep hearing a no deal is a good outcome so we don’t need a deal | |||
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"I can’t see how there would be a deal unless the U.K. gives up rights to complete because the EU still want control over what we as a nation would be able to do. They want the so called level playing field to stop the U.K. growing " Yep it makes absolute sense to damage your own close economic partner. | |||
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"Frankly only the duped can believe that there is any such thing as EU money/subsidies " In 2018 the U.K. paid the EU around 13 billion and the EU paid the U.K. 4 billion in so called subsidies Don’t sound like a subsidy to me | |||
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"Frankly only the duped can believe that there is any such thing as EU money/subsidies In 2018 the U.K. paid the EU around 13 billion and the EU paid the U.K. 4 billion in so called subsidies Don’t sound like a subsidy to me " How much has Brexit cost the UK? | |||
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"Frankly only the duped can believe that there is any such thing as EU money/subsidies In 2018 the U.K. paid the EU around 13 billion and the EU paid the U.K. 4 billion in so called subsidies Don’t sound like a subsidy to me How much has Brexit cost the UK? " It was always going to cost us more to get out no matter what we did because that’s the way it was set up slowly over time. The only other option would have been to stay trapped in the protectionist block/cartel | |||
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"Wales heavily rely on eu subsidies..going to be interesting to see what happens post Brexit. Ditto parts of the West country.. Given the recent town centre funding debacle from this government I just don't see this wave of altruism in investing in areas they have not been interested in before.. No votes for them unlike the shires.. And they have to 'level up'the north Still I'm sure with all that money we are saving there will be plenty to go round." will soon see like iv said before it’s going to be a bidding war at the next GE for the northern votes of blowjob doesn’t keep his promise to invest in the north labour will be in not that I have muck faith in starmer helping out the north | |||
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"Frankly only the duped can believe that there is any such thing as EU money/subsidies In 2018 the U.K. paid the EU around 13 billion and the EU paid the U.K. 4 billion in so called subsidies Don’t sound like a subsidy to me " And how much did we save in being part of a trading block? | |||
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"Frankly only the duped can believe that there is any such thing as EU money/subsidies In 2018 the U.K. paid the EU around 13 billion and the EU paid the U.K. 4 billion in so called subsidies Don’t sound like a subsidy to me How much has Brexit cost the UK? It was always going to cost us more to get out no matter what we did because that’s the way it was set up slowly over time. The only other option would have been to stay trapped in the protectionist block/cartel " How much has it cost? | |||
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"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal. The EU should shoud have the upper hand it's Boris and his bunch of moron cabinet little Englanders. Boris can't have his cake and eat it. " What is this cake and eat it wanting to be able to make your own rules for your own country? | |||
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"I can’t see how there would be a deal unless the U.K. gives up rights to complete because the EU still want control over what we as a nation would be able to do. They want the so called level playing field to stop the U.K. growing Yep it makes absolute sense to damage your own close economic partner." That works both ways we are the eu,s biggest market. | |||
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"I can’t see how there would be a deal unless the U.K. gives up rights to complete because the EU still want control over what we as a nation would be able to do. They want the so called level playing field to stop the U.K. growing Yep it makes absolute sense to damage your own close economic partner.That works both ways we are the eu,s biggest market." Course it does. Which makes one side damaging the other, nonsensical. | |||
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"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal. The EU should shoud have the upper hand it's Boris and his bunch of moron cabinet little Englanders. Boris can't have his cake and eat it. What is this cake and eat it wanting to be able to make your own rules for your own country? " If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has. | |||
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"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal. The EU should shoud have the upper hand it's Boris and his bunch of moron cabinet little Englanders. Boris can't have his cake and eat it. What is this cake and eat it wanting to be able to make your own rules for your own country? If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has. " True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ? | |||
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"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal. The EU should shoud have the upper hand it's Boris and his bunch of moron cabinet little Englanders. Boris can't have his cake and eat it. What is this cake and eat it wanting to be able to make your own rules for your own country? If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has. True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ? " What amazes me is that the EU haven’t buckled and given the UK everything they asked for , ‘we hold all the cards’ ‘easiest deal in history ‘ etc etc | |||
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"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal. The EU should shoud have the upper hand it's Boris and his bunch of moron cabinet little Englanders. Boris can't have his cake and eat it. What is this cake and eat it wanting to be able to make your own rules for your own country? If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has. True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ? What amazes me is that the EU haven’t buckled and given the UK everything they asked for , ‘we hold all the cards’ ‘easiest deal in history ‘ etc etc " i dont see the uk asking for anything its the eu asking the impossible. | |||
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"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal. The EU should shoud have the upper hand it's Boris and his bunch of moron cabinet little Englanders. Boris can't have his cake and eat it. What is this cake and eat it wanting to be able to make your own rules for your own country? If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has. True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ? " I dont know as I'm not privy to the meetings But surely If we were not bothered about the benefits we would happily leave with no deal? | |||
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"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal. The EU should shoud have the upper hand it's Boris and his bunch of moron cabinet little Englanders. Boris can't have his cake and eat it. What is this cake and eat it wanting to be able to make your own rules for your own country? If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has. True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ? What amazes me is that the EU haven’t buckled and given the UK everything they asked for , ‘we hold all the cards’ ‘easiest deal in history ‘ etc etc i dont see the uk asking for anything its the eu asking the impossible." Personally I thought the UK was actually asking for a free trade agreement lol | |||
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"Frankly only the duped can believe that there is any such thing as EU money/subsidies In 2018 the U.K. paid the EU around 13 billion and the EU paid the U.K. 4 billion in so called subsidies Don’t sound like a subsidy to me And how much did we save in being part of a trading block?" We saved a hell of a lot more billions in free trade than it ever cost us in "membership fees" but many will never acknowledge this. | |||
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"Frankly only the duped can believe that there is any such thing as EU money/subsidies In 2018 the U.K. paid the EU around 13 billion and the EU paid the U.K. 4 billion in so called subsidies Don’t sound like a subsidy to me And how much did we save in being part of a trading block? We saved a hell of a lot more billions in free trade than it ever cost us in "membership fees" but many will never acknowledge this. " So why doesn't the whole world 'free trade'? | |||
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"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal. The EU should shoud have the upper hand it's Boris and his bunch of moron cabinet little Englanders. Boris can't have his cake and eat it. What is this cake and eat it wanting to be able to make your own rules for your own country? If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has. True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ? I dont know as I'm not privy to the meetings But surely If we were not bothered about the benefits we would happily leave with no deal?" so you make a statement about entitlement to benifits and then you tell me you dont know what they are,bloody hell mate your arguments are getting worse. | |||
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"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal. The EU should shoud have the upper hand it's Boris and his bunch of moron cabinet little Englanders. Boris can't have his cake and eat it. What is this cake and eat it wanting to be able to make your own rules for your own country? If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has. True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ? What amazes me is that the EU haven’t buckled and given the UK everything they asked for , ‘we hold all the cards’ ‘easiest deal in history ‘ etc etc i dont see the uk asking for anything its the eu asking the impossible. Personally I thought the UK was actually asking for a free trade agreement lol" yes but can you tell me any other country that has a free trade agreement and has to accept them making their rules and access to their fishing rights.Just one country will do who,s govenment cant make its own rules. | |||
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"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal. The EU should shoud have the upper hand it's Boris and his bunch of moron cabinet little Englanders. Boris can't have his cake and eat it. What is this cake and eat it wanting to be able to make your own rules for your own country? If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has. True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ? What amazes me is that the EU haven’t buckled and given the UK everything they asked for , ‘we hold all the cards’ ‘easiest deal in history ‘ etc etc i dont see the uk asking for anything its the eu asking the impossible." Do you not think there is the tiniest possibility, that maybe,just maybe, that both sides take some responsibility here? | |||
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"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal. The EU should shoud have the upper hand it's Boris and his bunch of moron cabinet little Englanders. Boris can't have his cake and eat it. What is this cake and eat it wanting to be able to make your own rules for your own country? If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has. True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ? What amazes me is that the EU haven’t buckled and given the UK everything they asked for , ‘we hold all the cards’ ‘easiest deal in history ‘ etc etc " Almost like they didn't swallow the pie in the sky rhetoric from garage and Boris etc, how very selfish if them.. | |||
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"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal. The EU should shoud have the upper hand it's Boris and his bunch of moron cabinet little Englanders. Boris can't have his cake and eat it. What is this cake and eat it wanting to be able to make your own rules for your own country? If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has. True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ? What amazes me is that the EU haven’t buckled and given the UK everything they asked for , ‘we hold all the cards’ ‘easiest deal in history ‘ etc etc i dont see the uk asking for anything its the eu asking the impossible. Do you not think there is the tiniest possibility, that maybe,just maybe, that both sides take some responsibility here?" Tell me what demands the uk is making on the eu that is not in any other trade deal.Funny japan and canada didnt seem to have a problem maybe because they didnt want to make our laws too.I will ask again tell me a country that has sold its kids ,grandkids and so on, rights of its government to make rules out to a foreign power for a trade deal? | |||
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" So why doesn't the whole world 'free trade'? " That's the way the world is heading, if you paid any attention at all. The EU, NAFTA, ASPEAN, etc etc We are the only country going backwards and making it deliberately harder to trade because we're so weak minded that to us global co-operation looks like subjugation. | |||
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"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal. The EU should shoud have the upper hand it's Boris and his bunch of moron cabinet little Englanders. Boris can't have his cake and eat it. What is this cake and eat it wanting to be able to make your own rules for your own country? If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has. True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ? What amazes me is that the EU haven’t buckled and given the UK everything they asked for , ‘we hold all the cards’ ‘easiest deal in history ‘ etc etc i dont see the uk asking for anything its the eu asking the impossible. Do you not think there is the tiniest possibility, that maybe,just maybe, that both sides take some responsibility here?Tell me what demands the uk is making on the eu that is not in any other trade deal.Funny japan and canada didnt seem to have a problem maybe because they didnt want to make our laws too.I will ask again tell me a country that has sold its kids ,grandkids and so on, rights of its government to make rules out to a foreign power for a trade deal? " So you didnt answer my question The bullying eu and plucky old blighty standing upto it The kind of nonsense which leaves us where we are now. | |||
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" So why doesn't the whole world 'free trade'? That's the way the world is heading, if you paid any attention at all. The EU, NAFTA, ASPEAN, etc etc We are the only country going backwards and making it deliberately harder to trade because we're so weak minded that to us global co-operation looks like subjugation. " I thought we were trying to get free trade with the EU? Isn't that what all the talks are about? Duh | |||
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" So why doesn't the whole world 'free trade'? That's the way the world is heading, if you paid any attention at all. The EU, NAFTA, ASPEAN, etc etc We are the only country going backwards and making it deliberately harder to trade because we're so weak minded that to us global co-operation looks like subjugation. I thought we were trying to get free trade with the EU? Isn't that what all the talks are about? Duh" Trying to possibly get back what we already had, on worse terms. Duh indeed. | |||
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" So why doesn't the whole world 'free trade'? That's the way the world is heading, if you paid any attention at all. The EU, NAFTA, ASPEAN, etc etc We are the only country going backwards and making it deliberately harder to trade because we're so weak minded that to us global co-operation looks like subjugation. I thought we were trying to get free trade with the EU? Isn't that what all the talks are about? Duh Trying to possibly get back what we already had, on worse terms. Duh indeed. " No, trying to get back what we had with the EU and better terms with the rest of the world, get it right | |||
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" So why doesn't the whole world 'free trade'? That's the way the world is heading, if you paid any attention at all. The EU, NAFTA, ASPEAN, etc etc We are the only country going backwards and making it deliberately harder to trade because we're so weak minded that to us global co-operation looks like subjugation. I thought we were trying to get free trade with the EU? Isn't that what all the talks are about? Duh Trying to possibly get back what we already had, on worse terms. Duh indeed. No, trying to get back what we had with the EU and better terms with the rest of the world, get it right " But you were just questioning why we even need free trade, and now you're championing how great Brexit is going to be for free trade? Almost like you're just making up any old shit from moment to moment, isn't it. I can see why other people have stopped responding to you. | |||
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"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal. The EU should shoud have the upper hand it's Boris and his bunch of moron cabinet little Englanders. Boris can't have his cake and eat it. What is this cake and eat it wanting to be able to make your own rules for your own country? If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has. True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ? What amazes me is that the EU haven’t buckled and given the UK everything they asked for , ‘we hold all the cards’ ‘easiest deal in history ‘ etc etc i dont see the uk asking for anything its the eu asking the impossible. Do you not think there is the tiniest possibility, that maybe,just maybe, that both sides take some responsibility here?Tell me what demands the uk is making on the eu that is not in any other trade deal.Funny japan and canada didnt seem to have a problem maybe because they didnt want to make our laws too.I will ask again tell me a country that has sold its kids ,grandkids and so on, rights of its government to make rules out to a foreign power for a trade deal? " I don’t remember Canada & Japan ever being in the EU? | |||
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"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal. The EU should shoud have the upper hand it's Boris and his bunch of moron cabinet little Englanders. Boris can't have his cake and eat it. What is this cake and eat it wanting to be able to make your own rules for your own country? If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has. True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ? What amazes me is that the EU haven’t buckled and given the UK everything they asked for , ‘we hold all the cards’ ‘easiest deal in history ‘ etc etc Almost like they didn't swallow the pie in the sky rhetoric from garage and Boris etc, how very selfish if them.." I know, if only there was someone who could have predicted this was going to happen, did the leave campaign actually make a single accurate prediction? | |||
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" So why doesn't the whole world 'free trade'? That's the way the world is heading, if you paid any attention at all. The EU, NAFTA, ASPEAN, etc etc We are the only country going backwards and making it deliberately harder to trade because we're so weak minded that to us global co-operation looks like subjugation. I thought we were trying to get free trade with the EU? Isn't that what all the talks are about? Duh Trying to possibly get back what we already had, on worse terms. Duh indeed. No, trying to get back what we had with the EU and better terms with the rest of the world, get it right But you were just questioning why we even need free trade, and now you're championing how great Brexit is going to be for free trade? Almost like you're just making up any old shit from moment to moment, isn't it. I can see why other people have stopped responding to you. " Read and maybe comprehend properly, I never questioned why we need free trade at all | |||
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"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal. The EU should shoud have the upper hand it's Boris and his bunch of moron cabinet little Englanders. Boris can't have his cake and eat it. What is this cake and eat it wanting to be able to make your own rules for your own country? If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has. True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ? What amazes me is that the EU haven’t buckled and given the UK everything they asked for , ‘we hold all the cards’ ‘easiest deal in history ‘ etc etc i dont see the uk asking for anything its the eu asking the impossible. Do you not think there is the tiniest possibility, that maybe,just maybe, that both sides take some responsibility here?Tell me what demands the uk is making on the eu that is not in any other trade deal.Funny japan and canada didnt seem to have a problem maybe because they didnt want to make our laws too.I will ask again tell me a country that has sold its kids ,grandkids and so on, rights of its government to make rules out to a foreign power for a trade deal? I don’t remember Canada & Japan ever being in the EU? " what has that got to do with anything? fancy answering the question? | |||
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"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal. The EU should shoud have the upper hand it's Boris and his bunch of moron cabinet little Englanders. Boris can't have his cake and eat it. What is this cake and eat it wanting to be able to make your own rules for your own country? If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has. True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ? What amazes me is that the EU haven’t buckled and given the UK everything they asked for , ‘we hold all the cards’ ‘easiest deal in history ‘ etc etc i dont see the uk asking for anything its the eu asking the impossible. Do you not think there is the tiniest possibility, that maybe,just maybe, that both sides take some responsibility here?Tell me what demands the uk is making on the eu that is not in any other trade deal.Funny japan and canada didnt seem to have a problem maybe because they didnt want to make our laws too.I will ask again tell me a country that has sold its kids ,grandkids and so on, rights of its government to make rules out to a foreign power for a trade deal? I don’t remember Canada & Japan ever being in the EU? what has that got to do with anything? fancy answering the question?" It got everything to do with the question, why should the EU give the UK the same deal as Canada & Japan | |||
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"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal. The EU should shoud have the upper hand it's Boris and his bunch of moron cabinet little Englanders. Boris can't have his cake and eat it. What is this cake and eat it wanting to be able to make your own rules for your own country? If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has. True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ? What amazes me is that the EU haven’t buckled and given the UK everything they asked for , ‘we hold all the cards’ ‘easiest deal in history ‘ etc etc i dont see the uk asking for anything its the eu asking the impossible. Do you not think there is the tiniest possibility, that maybe,just maybe, that both sides take some responsibility here?Tell me what demands the uk is making on the eu that is not in any other trade deal.Funny japan and canada didnt seem to have a problem maybe because they didnt want to make our laws too.I will ask again tell me a country that has sold its kids ,grandkids and so on, rights of its government to make rules out to a foreign power for a trade deal? I don’t remember Canada & Japan ever being in the EU? what has that got to do with anything? fancy answering the question? It got everything to do with the question, why should the EU give the UK the same deal as Canada & Japan " come on now there are 195 countries to choose from stop trying to defect from the question and give me an answer. | |||
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"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal. The EU should shoud have the upper hand it's Boris and his bunch of moron cabinet little Englanders. Boris can't have his cake and eat it. What is this cake and eat it wanting to be able to make your own rules for your own country? If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has. True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ? What amazes me is that the EU haven’t buckled and given the UK everything they asked for , ‘we hold all the cards’ ‘easiest deal in history ‘ etc etc i dont see the uk asking for anything its the eu asking the impossible. Do you not think there is the tiniest possibility, that maybe,just maybe, that both sides take some responsibility here?Tell me what demands the uk is making on the eu that is not in any other trade deal.Funny japan and canada didnt seem to have a problem maybe because they didnt want to make our laws too.I will ask again tell me a country that has sold its kids ,grandkids and so on, rights of its government to make rules out to a foreign power for a trade deal? I don’t remember Canada & Japan ever being in the EU? what has that got to do with anything? fancy answering the question? It got everything to do with the question, why should the EU give the UK the same deal as Canada & Japan come on now there are 195 countries to choose from stop trying to defect from the question and give me an answer. " The answer is simple and obvious, the EU are protecting the interests of their members, giving the UK the same deal as Japan & Canada would not be fair on the EU nations. The funny thing about this is the fact that everyone with a brain knew this would happen, you can’t possible be surprised you knew what you were voting for | |||
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"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal. The EU should shoud have the upper hand it's Boris and his bunch of moron cabinet little Englanders. Boris can't have his cake and eat it. What is this cake and eat it wanting to be able to make your own rules for your own country? If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has. True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ? What amazes me is that the EU haven’t buckled and given the UK everything they asked for , ‘we hold all the cards’ ‘easiest deal in history ‘ etc etc i dont see the uk asking for anything its the eu asking the impossible. Do you not think there is the tiniest possibility, that maybe,just maybe, that both sides take some responsibility here?Tell me what demands the uk is making on the eu that is not in any other trade deal.Funny japan and canada didnt seem to have a problem maybe because they didnt want to make our laws too.I will ask again tell me a country that has sold its kids ,grandkids and so on, rights of its government to make rules out to a foreign power for a trade deal? I don’t remember Canada & Japan ever being in the EU? what has that got to do with anything? fancy answering the question? It got everything to do with the question, why should the EU give the UK the same deal as Canada & Japan come on now there are 195 countries to choose from stop trying to defect from the question and give me an answer. The answer is simple and obvious, the EU are protecting the interests of their members, giving the UK the same deal as Japan & Canada would not be fair on the EU nations. The funny thing about this is the fact that everyone with a brain knew this would happen, you can’t possible be surprised you knew what you were voting for " so whats the answer seems your mate has baled and left you to answer do you want a clue? | |||
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"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal. The EU should shoud have the upper hand it's Boris and his bunch of moron cabinet little Englanders. Boris can't have his cake and eat it. What is this cake and eat it wanting to be able to make your own rules for your own country? If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has. True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ? What amazes me is that the EU haven’t buckled and given the UK everything they asked for , ‘we hold all the cards’ ‘easiest deal in history ‘ etc etc i dont see the uk asking for anything its the eu asking the impossible. Do you not think there is the tiniest possibility, that maybe,just maybe, that both sides take some responsibility here?Tell me what demands the uk is making on the eu that is not in any other trade deal.Funny japan and canada didnt seem to have a problem maybe because they didnt want to make our laws too.I will ask again tell me a country that has sold its kids ,grandkids and so on, rights of its government to make rules out to a foreign power for a trade deal? I don’t remember Canada & Japan ever being in the EU? what has that got to do with anything? fancy answering the question? It got everything to do with the question, why should the EU give the UK the same deal as Canada & Japan come on now there are 195 countries to choose from stop trying to defect from the question and give me an answer. The answer is simple and obvious, the EU are protecting the interests of their members, giving the UK the same deal as Japan & Canada would not be fair on the EU nations. The funny thing about this is the fact that everyone with a brain knew this would happen, you can’t possible be surprised you knew what you were voting for so whats the answer seems your mate has baled and left you to answer do you want a clue?" I have just given you the answer | |||
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"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal. The EU should shoud have the upper hand it's Boris and his bunch of moron cabinet little Englanders. Boris can't have his cake and eat it. What is this cake and eat it wanting to be able to make your own rules for your own country? If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has. True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ? What amazes me is that the EU haven’t buckled and given the UK everything they asked for , ‘we hold all the cards’ ‘easiest deal in history ‘ etc etc i dont see the uk asking for anything its the eu asking the impossible. Do you not think there is the tiniest possibility, that maybe,just maybe, that both sides take some responsibility here?Tell me what demands the uk is making on the eu that is not in any other trade deal.Funny japan and canada didnt seem to have a problem maybe because they didnt want to make our laws too.I will ask again tell me a country that has sold its kids ,grandkids and so on, rights of its government to make rules out to a foreign power for a trade deal? I don’t remember Canada & Japan ever being in the EU? what has that got to do with anything? fancy answering the question? It got everything to do with the question, why should the EU give the UK the same deal as Canada & Japan come on now there are 195 countries to choose from stop trying to defect from the question and give me an answer. The answer is simple and obvious, the EU are protecting the interests of their members, giving the UK the same deal as Japan & Canada would not be fair on the EU nations. The funny thing about this is the fact that everyone with a brain knew this would happen, you can’t possible be surprised you knew what you were voting for so whats the answer seems your mate has baled and left you to answer do you want a clue? I have just given you the answer " Its between minus one and one. | |||
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"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal. The EU should shoud have the upper hand it's Boris and his bunch of moron cabinet little Englanders. Boris can't have his cake and eat it. What is this cake and eat it wanting to be able to make your own rules for your own country? If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has. True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ? What amazes me is that the EU haven’t buckled and given the UK everything they asked for , ‘we hold all the cards’ ‘easiest deal in history ‘ etc etc i dont see the uk asking for anything its the eu asking the impossible. Do you not think there is the tiniest possibility, that maybe,just maybe, that both sides take some responsibility here?Tell me what demands the uk is making on the eu that is not in any other trade deal.Funny japan and canada didnt seem to have a problem maybe because they didnt want to make our laws too.I will ask again tell me a country that has sold its kids ,grandkids and so on, rights of its government to make rules out to a foreign power for a trade deal? I don’t remember Canada & Japan ever being in the EU? what has that got to do with anything? fancy answering the question? It got everything to do with the question, why should the EU give the UK the same deal as Canada & Japan come on now there are 195 countries to choose from stop trying to defect from the question and give me an answer. The answer is simple and obvious, the EU are protecting the interests of their members, giving the UK the same deal as Japan & Canada would not be fair on the EU nations. The funny thing about this is the fact that everyone with a brain knew this would happen, you can’t possible be surprised you knew what you were voting for so whats the answer seems your mate has baled and left you to answer do you want a clue? I have just given you the answer Its between minus one and one." I have just given you the answer, it is that simple , you knew we weren’t going to get a Canada or Japan deal | |||
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"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal. The EU should shoud have the upper hand it's Boris and his bunch of moron cabinet little Englanders. Boris can't have his cake and eat it. What is this cake and eat it wanting to be able to make your own rules for your own country? If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has. True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ? What amazes me is that the EU haven’t buckled and given the UK everything they asked for , ‘we hold all the cards’ ‘easiest deal in history ‘ etc etc i dont see the uk asking for anything its the eu asking the impossible. Do you not think there is the tiniest possibility, that maybe,just maybe, that both sides take some responsibility here?Tell me what demands the uk is making on the eu that is not in any other trade deal.Funny japan and canada didnt seem to have a problem maybe because they didnt want to make our laws too.I will ask again tell me a country that has sold its kids ,grandkids and so on, rights of its government to make rules out to a foreign power for a trade deal? I don’t remember Canada & Japan ever being in the EU? what has that got to do with anything? fancy answering the question? It got everything to do with the question, why should the EU give the UK the same deal as Canada & Japan come on now there are 195 countries to choose from stop trying to defect from the question and give me an answer. The answer is simple and obvious, the EU are protecting the interests of their members, giving the UK the same deal as Japan & Canada would not be fair on the EU nations. The funny thing about this is the fact that everyone with a brain knew this would happen, you can’t possible be surprised you knew what you were voting for so whats the answer seems your mate has baled and left you to answer do you want a clue? I have just given you the answer Its between minus one and one. I have just given you the answer, it is that simple , you knew we weren’t going to get a Canada or Japan deal " Right so we are at least in agreement we should not let the eu have control over some of our rules is that correct? | |||
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"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal. The EU should shoud have the upper hand it's Boris and his bunch of moron cabinet little Englanders. Boris can't have his cake and eat it. What is this cake and eat it wanting to be able to make your own rules for your own country? If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has. True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ? What amazes me is that the EU haven’t buckled and given the UK everything they asked for , ‘we hold all the cards’ ‘easiest deal in history ‘ etc etc i dont see the uk asking for anything its the eu asking the impossible. Do you not think there is the tiniest possibility, that maybe,just maybe, that both sides take some responsibility here?Tell me what demands the uk is making on the eu that is not in any other trade deal.Funny japan and canada didnt seem to have a problem maybe because they didnt want to make our laws too.I will ask again tell me a country that has sold its kids ,grandkids and so on, rights of its government to make rules out to a foreign power for a trade deal? I don’t remember Canada & Japan ever being in the EU? what has that got to do with anything? fancy answering the question? It got everything to do with the question, why should the EU give the UK the same deal as Canada & Japan come on now there are 195 countries to choose from stop trying to defect from the question and give me an answer. The answer is simple and obvious, the EU are protecting the interests of their members, giving the UK the same deal as Japan & Canada would not be fair on the EU nations. The funny thing about this is the fact that everyone with a brain knew this would happen, you can’t possible be surprised you knew what you were voting for so whats the answer seems your mate has baled and left you to answer do you want a clue? I have just given you the answer Its between minus one and one. I have just given you the answer, it is that simple , you knew we weren’t going to get a Canada or Japan deal Right so we are at least in agreement we should not let the eu have control over some of our rules is that correct?" Where did I say that? , the EU are trying to protect their members, they are trying to get the best deal for them, | |||
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"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal. The EU should shoud have the upper hand it's Boris and his bunch of moron cabinet little Englanders. Boris can't have his cake and eat it. What is this cake and eat it wanting to be able to make your own rules for your own country? If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has. True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ? What amazes me is that the EU haven’t buckled and given the UK everything they asked for , ‘we hold all the cards’ ‘easiest deal in history ‘ etc etc i dont see the uk asking for anything its the eu asking the impossible. Do you not think there is the tiniest possibility, that maybe,just maybe, that both sides take some responsibility here?Tell me what demands the uk is making on the eu that is not in any other trade deal.Funny japan and canada didnt seem to have a problem maybe because they didnt want to make our laws too.I will ask again tell me a country that has sold its kids ,grandkids and so on, rights of its government to make rules out to a foreign power for a trade deal? I don’t remember Canada & Japan ever being in the EU? what has that got to do with anything? fancy answering the question? It got everything to do with the question, why should the EU give the UK the same deal as Canada & Japan come on now there are 195 countries to choose from stop trying to defect from the question and give me an answer. The answer is simple and obvious, the EU are protecting the interests of their members, giving the UK the same deal as Japan & Canada would not be fair on the EU nations. The funny thing about this is the fact that everyone with a brain knew this would happen, you can’t possible be surprised you knew what you were voting for so whats the answer seems your mate has baled and left you to answer do you want a clue? I have just given you the answer Its between minus one and one. I have just given you the answer, it is that simple , you knew we weren’t going to get a Canada or Japan deal Right so we are at least in agreement we should not let the eu have control over some of our rules is that correct? Where did I say that? , the EU are trying to protect their members, they are trying to get the best deal for them, " so you think they should have control over some of our rules then? | |||
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"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal. The EU should shoud have the upper hand it's Boris and his bunch of moron cabinet little Englanders. Boris can't have his cake and eat it. What is this cake and eat it wanting to be able to make your own rules for your own country? If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has. True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ? What amazes me is that the EU haven’t buckled and given the UK everything they asked for , ‘we hold all the cards’ ‘easiest deal in history ‘ etc etc i dont see the uk asking for anything its the eu asking the impossible. Do you not think there is the tiniest possibility, that maybe,just maybe, that both sides take some responsibility here?Tell me what demands the uk is making on the eu that is not in any other trade deal.Funny japan and canada didnt seem to have a problem maybe because they didnt want to make our laws too.I will ask again tell me a country that has sold its kids ,grandkids and so on, rights of its government to make rules out to a foreign power for a trade deal? I don’t remember Canada & Japan ever being in the EU? what has that got to do with anything? fancy answering the question? It got everything to do with the question, why should the EU give the UK the same deal as Canada & Japan come on now there are 195 countries to choose from stop trying to defect from the question and give me an answer. The answer is simple and obvious, the EU are protecting the interests of their members, giving the UK the same deal as Japan & Canada would not be fair on the EU nations. The funny thing about this is the fact that everyone with a brain knew this would happen, you can’t possible be surprised you knew what you were voting for so whats the answer seems your mate has baled and left you to answer do you want a clue? I have just given you the answer Its between minus one and one. I have just given you the answer, it is that simple , you knew we weren’t going to get a Canada or Japan deal Right so we are at least in agreement we should not let the eu have control over some of our rules is that correct? Where did I say that? , the EU are trying to protect their members, they are trying to get the best deal for them, so you think they should have control over some of our rules then?" When it come to trading with the EU? Yes, it is in their best interests, you seem shocked that this is happening | |||
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"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal. The EU should shoud have the upper hand it's Boris and his bunch of moron cabinet little Englanders. Boris can't have his cake and eat it. What is this cake and eat it wanting to be able to make your own rules for your own country? If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has. True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ? What amazes me is that the EU haven’t buckled and given the UK everything they asked for , ‘we hold all the cards’ ‘easiest deal in history ‘ etc etc i dont see the uk asking for anything its the eu asking the impossible. Do you not think there is the tiniest possibility, that maybe,just maybe, that both sides take some responsibility here?Tell me what demands the uk is making on the eu that is not in any other trade deal.Funny japan and canada didnt seem to have a problem maybe because they didnt want to make our laws too.I will ask again tell me a country that has sold its kids ,grandkids and so on, rights of its government to make rules out to a foreign power for a trade deal? I don’t remember Canada & Japan ever being in the EU? what has that got to do with anything? fancy answering the question? It got everything to do with the question, why should the EU give the UK the same deal as Canada & Japan come on now there are 195 countries to choose from stop trying to defect from the question and give me an answer. The answer is simple and obvious, the EU are protecting the interests of their members, giving the UK the same deal as Japan & Canada would not be fair on the EU nations. The funny thing about this is the fact that everyone with a brain knew this would happen, you can’t possible be surprised you knew what you were voting for so whats the answer seems your mate has baled and left you to answer do you want a clue? I have just given you the answer Its between minus one and one. I have just given you the answer, it is that simple , you knew we weren’t going to get a Canada or Japan deal Right so we are at least in agreement we should not let the eu have control over some of our rules is that correct? Where did I say that? , the EU are trying to protect their members, they are trying to get the best deal for them, so you think they should have control over some of our rules then? When it come to trading with the EU? Yes, it is in their best interests, you seem shocked that this is happening " ok so your willing to sell out future generations rights for an eu trade deal fair enough im sure a lot of people would disagree but at least i know where you stand now. | |||
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"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal. The EU should shoud have the upper hand it's Boris and his bunch of moron cabinet little Englanders. Boris can't have his cake and eat it. What is this cake and eat it wanting to be able to make your own rules for your own country? If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has. True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ? What amazes me is that the EU haven’t buckled and given the UK everything they asked for , ‘we hold all the cards’ ‘easiest deal in history ‘ etc etc i dont see the uk asking for anything its the eu asking the impossible. Do you not think there is the tiniest possibility, that maybe,just maybe, that both sides take some responsibility here?Tell me what demands the uk is making on the eu that is not in any other trade deal.Funny japan and canada didnt seem to have a problem maybe because they didnt want to make our laws too.I will ask again tell me a country that has sold its kids ,grandkids and so on, rights of its government to make rules out to a foreign power for a trade deal? I don’t remember Canada & Japan ever being in the EU? what has that got to do with anything? fancy answering the question? It got everything to do with the question, why should the EU give the UK the same deal as Canada & Japan come on now there are 195 countries to choose from stop trying to defect from the question and give me an answer. The answer is simple and obvious, the EU are protecting the interests of their members, giving the UK the same deal as Japan & Canada would not be fair on the EU nations. The funny thing about this is the fact that everyone with a brain knew this would happen, you can’t possible be surprised you knew what you were voting for so whats the answer seems your mate has baled and left you to answer do you want a clue? I have just given you the answer Its between minus one and one. I have just given you the answer, it is that simple , you knew we weren’t going to get a Canada or Japan deal Right so we are at least in agreement we should not let the eu have control over some of our rules is that correct? Where did I say that? , the EU are trying to protect their members, they are trying to get the best deal for them, so you think they should have control over some of our rules then? When it come to trading with the EU? Yes, it is in their best interests, you seem shocked that this is happening ok so your willing to sell out future generations rights for an eu trade deal fair enough im sure a lot of people would disagree but at least i know where you stand now." Calm down, you seem a bit surprised this is happening? There won’t be a deal, apparently we don’t need one and a no deal is a good outcome ?? | |||
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"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal. The EU should shoud have the upper hand it's Boris and his bunch of moron cabinet little Englanders. Boris can't have his cake and eat it. What is this cake and eat it wanting to be able to make your own rules for your own country? If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has. True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ? What amazes me is that the EU haven’t buckled and given the UK everything they asked for , ‘we hold all the cards’ ‘easiest deal in history ‘ etc etc i dont see the uk asking for anything its the eu asking the impossible. Do you not think there is the tiniest possibility, that maybe,just maybe, that both sides take some responsibility here?Tell me what demands the uk is making on the eu that is not in any other trade deal.Funny japan and canada didnt seem to have a problem maybe because they didnt want to make our laws too.I will ask again tell me a country that has sold its kids ,grandkids and so on, rights of its government to make rules out to a foreign power for a trade deal? I don’t remember Canada & Japan ever being in the EU? what has that got to do with anything? fancy answering the question? It got everything to do with the question, why should the EU give the UK the same deal as Canada & Japan come on now there are 195 countries to choose from stop trying to defect from the question and give me an answer. The answer is simple and obvious, the EU are protecting the interests of their members, giving the UK the same deal as Japan & Canada would not be fair on the EU nations. The funny thing about this is the fact that everyone with a brain knew this would happen, you can’t possible be surprised you knew what you were voting for so whats the answer seems your mate has baled and left you to answer do you want a clue? I have just given you the answer Its between minus one and one. I have just given you the answer, it is that simple , you knew we weren’t going to get a Canada or Japan deal Right so we are at least in agreement we should not let the eu have control over some of our rules is that correct? Where did I say that? , the EU are trying to protect their members, they are trying to get the best deal for them, so you think they should have control over some of our rules then? When it come to trading with the EU? Yes, it is in their best interests, you seem shocked that this is happening ok so your willing to sell out future generations rights for an eu trade deal fair enough im sure a lot of people would disagree but at least i know where you stand now. Calm down, you seem a bit surprised this is happening? There won’t be a deal, apparently we don’t need one and a no deal is a good outcome ??" Well the eu have moved the goalposts the withdrawal agreement said they would reckonise uk sovereignty which that certainly isnt. anyway getting off track im trying to get to the bottom of your logic, so what is the eu superstate worried about that the uk can do that canada cant? as they dont want to have power over Canada,s government. | |||
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"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal. The EU should shoud have the upper hand it's Boris and his bunch of moron cabinet little Englanders. Boris can't have his cake and eat it. What is this cake and eat it wanting to be able to make your own rules for your own country? If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has. True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ? What amazes me is that the EU haven’t buckled and given the UK everything they asked for , ‘we hold all the cards’ ‘easiest deal in history ‘ etc etc i dont see the uk asking for anything its the eu asking the impossible. Do you not think there is the tiniest possibility, that maybe,just maybe, that both sides take some responsibility here?Tell me what demands the uk is making on the eu that is not in any other trade deal.Funny japan and canada didnt seem to have a problem maybe because they didnt want to make our laws too.I will ask again tell me a country that has sold its kids ,grandkids and so on, rights of its government to make rules out to a foreign power for a trade deal? I don’t remember Canada & Japan ever being in the EU? what has that got to do with anything? fancy answering the question? It got everything to do with the question, why should the EU give the UK the same deal as Canada & Japan come on now there are 195 countries to choose from stop trying to defect from the question and give me an answer. The answer is simple and obvious, the EU are protecting the interests of their members, giving the UK the same deal as Japan & Canada would not be fair on the EU nations. The funny thing about this is the fact that everyone with a brain knew this would happen, you can’t possible be surprised you knew what you were voting for so whats the answer seems your mate has baled and left you to answer do you want a clue? I have just given you the answer Its between minus one and one. I have just given you the answer, it is that simple , you knew we weren’t going to get a Canada or Japan deal Right so we are at least in agreement we should not let the eu have control over some of our rules is that correct? Where did I say that? , the EU are trying to protect their members, they are trying to get the best deal for them, so you think they should have control over some of our rules then? When it come to trading with the EU? Yes, it is in their best interests, you seem shocked that this is happening ok so your willing to sell out future generations rights for an eu trade deal fair enough im sure a lot of people would disagree but at least i know where you stand now. Calm down, you seem a bit surprised this is happening? There won’t be a deal, apparently we don’t need one and a no deal is a good outcome ??Well the eu have moved the goalposts the withdrawal agreement said they would reckonise uk sovereignty which that certainly isnt. anyway getting off track im trying to get to the bottom of your logic, so what is the eu superstate worried about that the uk can do that canada cant? as they dont want to have power over Canada,s government." A Canada deal was never an option, I am sure you realised this, just be happy that there will be a no deal, it is what you voted for | |||
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"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal. The EU should shoud have the upper hand it's Boris and his bunch of moron cabinet little Englanders. Boris can't have his cake and eat it. What is this cake and eat it wanting to be able to make your own rules for your own country? If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has. True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ? What amazes me is that the EU haven’t buckled and given the UK everything they asked for , ‘we hold all the cards’ ‘easiest deal in history ‘ etc etc i dont see the uk asking for anything its the eu asking the impossible. Do you not think there is the tiniest possibility, that maybe,just maybe, that both sides take some responsibility here?Tell me what demands the uk is making on the eu that is not in any other trade deal.Funny japan and canada didnt seem to have a problem maybe because they didnt want to make our laws too.I will ask again tell me a country that has sold its kids ,grandkids and so on, rights of its government to make rules out to a foreign power for a trade deal? I don’t remember Canada & Japan ever being in the EU? what has that got to do with anything? fancy answering the question? It got everything to do with the question, why should the EU give the UK the same deal as Canada & Japan come on now there are 195 countries to choose from stop trying to defect from the question and give me an answer. The answer is simple and obvious, the EU are protecting the interests of their members, giving the UK the same deal as Japan & Canada would not be fair on the EU nations. The funny thing about this is the fact that everyone with a brain knew this would happen, you can’t possible be surprised you knew what you were voting for so whats the answer seems your mate has baled and left you to answer do you want a clue? I have just given you the answer Its between minus one and one. I have just given you the answer, it is that simple , you knew we weren’t going to get a Canada or Japan deal Right so we are at least in agreement we should not let the eu have control over some of our rules is that correct? Where did I say that? , the EU are trying to protect their members, they are trying to get the best deal for them, so you think they should have control over some of our rules then? When it come to trading with the EU? Yes, it is in their best interests, you seem shocked that this is happening ok so your willing to sell out future generations rights for an eu trade deal fair enough im sure a lot of people would disagree but at least i know where you stand now. Calm down, you seem a bit surprised this is happening? There won’t be a deal, apparently we don’t need one and a no deal is a good outcome ??Well the eu have moved the goalposts the withdrawal agreement said they would reckonise uk sovereignty which that certainly isnt. anyway getting off track im trying to get to the bottom of your logic, so what is the eu superstate worried about that the uk can do that canada cant? as they dont want to have power over Canada,s government. A Canada deal was never an option, I am sure you realised this, just be happy that there will be a no deal, it is what you voted for " Thats not really answering my question,what is the reason? | |||
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"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal. The EU should shoud have the upper hand it's Boris and his bunch of moron cabinet little Englanders. Boris can't have his cake and eat it. What is this cake and eat it wanting to be able to make your own rules for your own country? If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has. True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ? What amazes me is that the EU haven’t buckled and given the UK everything they asked for , ‘we hold all the cards’ ‘easiest deal in history ‘ etc etc i dont see the uk asking for anything its the eu asking the impossible. Do you not think there is the tiniest possibility, that maybe,just maybe, that both sides take some responsibility here?Tell me what demands the uk is making on the eu that is not in any other trade deal.Funny japan and canada didnt seem to have a problem maybe because they didnt want to make our laws too.I will ask again tell me a country that has sold its kids ,grandkids and so on, rights of its government to make rules out to a foreign power for a trade deal? I don’t remember Canada & Japan ever being in the EU? what has that got to do with anything? fancy answering the question? It got everything to do with the question, why should the EU give the UK the same deal as Canada & Japan come on now there are 195 countries to choose from stop trying to defect from the question and give me an answer. The answer is simple and obvious, the EU are protecting the interests of their members, giving the UK the same deal as Japan & Canada would not be fair on the EU nations. The funny thing about this is the fact that everyone with a brain knew this would happen, you can’t possible be surprised you knew what you were voting for so whats the answer seems your mate has baled and left you to answer do you want a clue? I have just given you the answer Its between minus one and one. I have just given you the answer, it is that simple , you knew we weren’t going to get a Canada or Japan deal Right so we are at least in agreement we should not let the eu have control over some of our rules is that correct? Where did I say that? , the EU are trying to protect their members, they are trying to get the best deal for them, so you think they should have control over some of our rules then? When it come to trading with the EU? Yes, it is in their best interests, you seem shocked that this is happening ok so your willing to sell out future generations rights for an eu trade deal fair enough im sure a lot of people would disagree but at least i know where you stand now. Calm down, you seem a bit surprised this is happening? There won’t be a deal, apparently we don’t need one and a no deal is a good outcome ??Well the eu have moved the goalposts the withdrawal agreement said they would reckonise uk sovereignty which that certainly isnt. anyway getting off track im trying to get to the bottom of your logic, so what is the eu superstate worried about that the uk can do that canada cant? as they dont want to have power over Canada,s government. A Canada deal was never an option, I am sure you realised this, just be happy that there will be a no deal, it is what you voted for Thats not really answering my question,what is the reason?" I have given you the reasons, is a no deal a good outcome? | |||
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"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal. The EU should shoud have the upper hand it's Boris and his bunch of moron cabinet little Englanders. Boris can't have his cake and eat it. What is this cake and eat it wanting to be able to make your own rules for your own country? If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has. True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ? What amazes me is that the EU haven’t buckled and given the UK everything they asked for , ‘we hold all the cards’ ‘easiest deal in history ‘ etc etc i dont see the uk asking for anything its the eu asking the impossible. Do you not think there is the tiniest possibility, that maybe,just maybe, that both sides take some responsibility here?Tell me what demands the uk is making on the eu that is not in any other trade deal.Funny japan and canada didnt seem to have a problem maybe because they didnt want to make our laws too.I will ask again tell me a country that has sold its kids ,grandkids and so on, rights of its government to make rules out to a foreign power for a trade deal? I don’t remember Canada & Japan ever being in the EU? what has that got to do with anything? fancy answering the question? It got everything to do with the question, why should the EU give the UK the same deal as Canada & Japan come on now there are 195 countries to choose from stop trying to defect from the question and give me an answer. The answer is simple and obvious, the EU are protecting the interests of their members, giving the UK the same deal as Japan & Canada would not be fair on the EU nations. The funny thing about this is the fact that everyone with a brain knew this would happen, you can’t possible be surprised you knew what you were voting for so whats the answer seems your mate has baled and left you to answer do you want a clue? I have just given you the answer Its between minus one and one. I have just given you the answer, it is that simple , you knew we weren’t going to get a Canada or Japan deal Right so we are at least in agreement we should not let the eu have control over some of our rules is that correct? Where did I say that? , the EU are trying to protect their members, they are trying to get the best deal for them, so you think they should have control over some of our rules then? When it come to trading with the EU? Yes, it is in their best interests, you seem shocked that this is happening ok so your willing to sell out future generations rights for an eu trade deal fair enough im sure a lot of people would disagree but at least i know where you stand now. Calm down, you seem a bit surprised this is happening? There won’t be a deal, apparently we don’t need one and a no deal is a good outcome ??Well the eu have moved the goalposts the withdrawal agreement said they would reckonise uk sovereignty which that certainly isnt. anyway getting off track im trying to get to the bottom of your logic, so what is the eu superstate worried about that the uk can do that canada cant? as they dont want to have power over Canada,s government. A Canada deal was never an option, I am sure you realised this, just be happy that there will be a no deal, it is what you voted for Thats not really answering my question,what is the reason? I have given you the reasons, is a no deal a good outcome? " No you haven't ,not got an answer as to why? | |||
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"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal. The EU should shoud have the upper hand it's Boris and his bunch of moron cabinet little Englanders. Boris can't have his cake and eat it. What is this cake and eat it wanting to be able to make your own rules for your own country? If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has. True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ? What amazes me is that the EU haven’t buckled and given the UK everything they asked for , ‘we hold all the cards’ ‘easiest deal in history ‘ etc etc i dont see the uk asking for anything its the eu asking the impossible. Do you not think there is the tiniest possibility, that maybe,just maybe, that both sides take some responsibility here?Tell me what demands the uk is making on the eu that is not in any other trade deal.Funny japan and canada didnt seem to have a problem maybe because they didnt want to make our laws too.I will ask again tell me a country that has sold its kids ,grandkids and so on, rights of its government to make rules out to a foreign power for a trade deal? I don’t remember Canada & Japan ever being in the EU? what has that got to do with anything? fancy answering the question? It got everything to do with the question, why should the EU give the UK the same deal as Canada & Japan come on now there are 195 countries to choose from stop trying to defect from the question and give me an answer. The answer is simple and obvious, the EU are protecting the interests of their members, giving the UK the same deal as Japan & Canada would not be fair on the EU nations. The funny thing about this is the fact that everyone with a brain knew this would happen, you can’t possible be surprised you knew what you were voting for so whats the answer seems your mate has baled and left you to answer do you want a clue? I have just given you the answer Its between minus one and one. I have just given you the answer, it is that simple , you knew we weren’t going to get a Canada or Japan deal Right so we are at least in agreement we should not let the eu have control over some of our rules is that correct? Where did I say that? , the EU are trying to protect their members, they are trying to get the best deal for them, so you think they should have control over some of our rules then? When it come to trading with the EU? Yes, it is in their best interests, you seem shocked that this is happening ok so your willing to sell out future generations rights for an eu trade deal fair enough im sure a lot of people would disagree but at least i know where you stand now. Calm down, you seem a bit surprised this is happening? There won’t be a deal, apparently we don’t need one and a no deal is a good outcome ??Well the eu have moved the goalposts the withdrawal agreement said they would reckonise uk sovereignty which that certainly isnt. anyway getting off track im trying to get to the bottom of your logic, so what is the eu superstate worried about that the uk can do that canada cant? as they dont want to have power over Canada,s government. A Canada deal was never an option, I am sure you realised this, just be happy that there will be a no deal, it is what you voted for Thats not really answering my question,what is the reason? I have given you the reasons, is a no deal a good outcome? No you haven't ,not got an answer as to why? " Yes I have, it is all there . Don’t worry, a no deal is a good outcome ? | |||
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"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal. The EU should shoud have the upper hand it's Boris and his bunch of moron cabinet little Englanders. Boris can't have his cake and eat it. What is this cake and eat it wanting to be able to make your own rules for your own country? If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has. True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ? What amazes me is that the EU haven’t buckled and given the UK everything they asked for , ‘we hold all the cards’ ‘easiest deal in history ‘ etc etc i dont see the uk asking for anything its the eu asking the impossible. Do you not think there is the tiniest possibility, that maybe,just maybe, that both sides take some responsibility here?Tell me what demands the uk is making on the eu that is not in any other trade deal.Funny japan and canada didnt seem to have a problem maybe because they didnt want to make our laws too.I will ask again tell me a country that has sold its kids ,grandkids and so on, rights of its government to make rules out to a foreign power for a trade deal? I don’t remember Canada & Japan ever being in the EU? what has that got to do with anything? fancy answering the question? It got everything to do with the question, why should the EU give the UK the same deal as Canada & Japan come on now there are 195 countries to choose from stop trying to defect from the question and give me an answer. The answer is simple and obvious, the EU are protecting the interests of their members, giving the UK the same deal as Japan & Canada would not be fair on the EU nations. The funny thing about this is the fact that everyone with a brain knew this would happen, you can’t possible be surprised you knew what you were voting for so whats the answer seems your mate has baled and left you to answer do you want a clue? I have just given you the answer Its between minus one and one. I have just given you the answer, it is that simple , you knew we weren’t going to get a Canada or Japan deal Right so we are at least in agreement we should not let the eu have control over some of our rules is that correct? Where did I say that? , the EU are trying to protect their members, they are trying to get the best deal for them, so you think they should have control over some of our rules then? When it come to trading with the EU? Yes, it is in their best interests, you seem shocked that this is happening ok so your willing to sell out future generations rights for an eu trade deal fair enough im sure a lot of people would disagree but at least i know where you stand now. Calm down, you seem a bit surprised this is happening? There won’t be a deal, apparently we don’t need one and a no deal is a good outcome ??Well the eu have moved the goalposts the withdrawal agreement said they would reckonise uk sovereignty which that certainly isnt. anyway getting off track im trying to get to the bottom of your logic, so what is the eu superstate worried about that the uk can do that canada cant? as they dont want to have power over Canada,s government. A Canada deal was never an option, I am sure you realised this, just be happy that there will be a no deal, it is what you voted for Thats not really answering my question,what is the reason? I have given you the reasons, is a no deal a good outcome? No you haven't ,not got an answer as to why? Yes I have, it is all there . Don’t worry, a no deal is a good outcome ? " It was never an option is not an answer i would like to know what the uk can do that canada or japan for that matter cant?,its a simple enough question. | |||
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"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal. The EU should shoud have the upper hand it's Boris and his bunch of moron cabinet little Englanders. Boris can't have his cake and eat it. What is this cake and eat it wanting to be able to make your own rules for your own country? If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has. True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ? What amazes me is that the EU haven’t buckled and given the UK everything they asked for , ‘we hold all the cards’ ‘easiest deal in history ‘ etc etc i dont see the uk asking for anything its the eu asking the impossible. Do you not think there is the tiniest possibility, that maybe,just maybe, that both sides take some responsibility here?Tell me what demands the uk is making on the eu that is not in any other trade deal.Funny japan and canada didnt seem to have a problem maybe because they didnt want to make our laws too.I will ask again tell me a country that has sold its kids ,grandkids and so on, rights of its government to make rules out to a foreign power for a trade deal? I don’t remember Canada & Japan ever being in the EU? what has that got to do with anything? fancy answering the question? It got everything to do with the question, why should the EU give the UK the same deal as Canada & Japan come on now there are 195 countries to choose from stop trying to defect from the question and give me an answer. The answer is simple and obvious, the EU are protecting the interests of their members, giving the UK the same deal as Japan & Canada would not be fair on the EU nations. The funny thing about this is the fact that everyone with a brain knew this would happen, you can’t possible be surprised you knew what you were voting for so whats the answer seems your mate has baled and left you to answer do you want a clue? I have just given you the answer Its between minus one and one. I have just given you the answer, it is that simple , you knew we weren’t going to get a Canada or Japan deal Right so we are at least in agreement we should not let the eu have control over some of our rules is that correct? Where did I say that? , the EU are trying to protect their members, they are trying to get the best deal for them, so you think they should have control over some of our rules then? When it come to trading with the EU? Yes, it is in their best interests, you seem shocked that this is happening ok so your willing to sell out future generations rights for an eu trade deal fair enough im sure a lot of people would disagree but at least i know where you stand now. Calm down, you seem a bit surprised this is happening? There won’t be a deal, apparently we don’t need one and a no deal is a good outcome ??Well the eu have moved the goalposts the withdrawal agreement said they would reckonise uk sovereignty which that certainly isnt. anyway getting off track im trying to get to the bottom of your logic, so what is the eu superstate worried about that the uk can do that canada cant? as they dont want to have power over Canada,s government. A Canada deal was never an option, I am sure you realised this, just be happy that there will be a no deal, it is what you voted for Thats not really answering my question,what is the reason? I have given you the reasons, is a no deal a good outcome? No you haven't ,not got an answer as to why? Yes I have, it is all there . Don’t worry, a no deal is a good outcome ? It was never an option is not an answer i would like to know what the uk can do that canada or japan for that matter cant?,its a simple enough question." Have a read https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-politics-51549662 Btw, is a no deal a good outcome or not? | |||
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"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal. The EU should shoud have the upper hand it's Boris and his bunch of moron cabinet little Englanders. Boris can't have his cake and eat it. What is this cake and eat it wanting to be able to make your own rules for your own country? If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has. True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ? What amazes me is that the EU haven’t buckled and given the UK everything they asked for , ‘we hold all the cards’ ‘easiest deal in history ‘ etc etc i dont see the uk asking for anything its the eu asking the impossible. Do you not think there is the tiniest possibility, that maybe,just maybe, that both sides take some responsibility here?Tell me what demands the uk is making on the eu that is not in any other trade deal.Funny japan and canada didnt seem to have a problem maybe because they didnt want to make our laws too.I will ask again tell me a country that has sold its kids ,grandkids and so on, rights of its government to make rules out to a foreign power for a trade deal? I don’t remember Canada & Japan ever being in the EU? what has that got to do with anything? fancy answering the question? It got everything to do with the question, why should the EU give the UK the same deal as Canada & Japan come on now there are 195 countries to choose from stop trying to defect from the question and give me an answer. The answer is simple and obvious, the EU are protecting the interests of their members, giving the UK the same deal as Japan & Canada would not be fair on the EU nations. The funny thing about this is the fact that everyone with a brain knew this would happen, you can’t possible be surprised you knew what you were voting for so whats the answer seems your mate has baled and left you to answer do you want a clue? I have just given you the answer Its between minus one and one. I have just given you the answer, it is that simple , you knew we weren’t going to get a Canada or Japan deal Right so we are at least in agreement we should not let the eu have control over some of our rules is that correct? Where did I say that? , the EU are trying to protect their members, they are trying to get the best deal for them, so you think they should have control over some of our rules then? When it come to trading with the EU? Yes, it is in their best interests, you seem shocked that this is happening ok so your willing to sell out future generations rights for an eu trade deal fair enough im sure a lot of people would disagree but at least i know where you stand now. Calm down, you seem a bit surprised this is happening? There won’t be a deal, apparently we don’t need one and a no deal is a good outcome ??Well the eu have moved the goalposts the withdrawal agreement said they would reckonise uk sovereignty which that certainly isnt. anyway getting off track im trying to get to the bottom of your logic, so what is the eu superstate worried about that the uk can do that canada cant? as they dont want to have power over Canada,s government. A Canada deal was never an option, I am sure you realised this, just be happy that there will be a no deal, it is what you voted for Thats not really answering my question,what is the reason? I have given you the reasons, is a no deal a good outcome? No you haven't ,not got an answer as to why? Yes I have, it is all there . Don’t worry, a no deal is a good outcome ? It was never an option is not an answer i would like to know what the uk can do that canada or japan for that matter cant?,its a simple enough question. Have a read https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-politics-51549662 Btw, is a no deal a good outcome or not? " Im trying to get to why you think the way you do not bbc news.I already know that you believe the eu should be able to make uk rules even though we are not in it anymore. I now want to know why you think they should when no other country in the world would sign up to something like that and what possible reason do you think they want us to.Just an answer will sufice we can discuss other bits after. | |||
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"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal. The EU should shoud have the upper hand it's Boris and his bunch of moron cabinet little Englanders. Boris can't have his cake and eat it. What is this cake and eat it wanting to be able to make your own rules for your own country? If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has. True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ? What amazes me is that the EU haven’t buckled and given the UK everything they asked for , ‘we hold all the cards’ ‘easiest deal in history ‘ etc etc Almost like they didn't swallow the pie in the sky rhetoric from garage and Boris etc, how very selfish if them.. I know, if only there was someone who could have predicted this was going to happen, did the leave campaign actually make a single accurate prediction? " On many things they erred on the cautious side but yes the reality is no longer 'project fear'.. | |||
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"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal. The EU should shoud have the upper hand it's Boris and his bunch of moron cabinet little Englanders. Boris can't have his cake and eat it. What is this cake and eat it wanting to be able to make your own rules for your own country? If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has. True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ? What amazes me is that the EU haven’t buckled and given the UK everything they asked for , ‘we hold all the cards’ ‘easiest deal in history ‘ etc etc i dont see the uk asking for anything its the eu asking the impossible. Do you not think there is the tiniest possibility, that maybe,just maybe, that both sides take some responsibility here?Tell me what demands the uk is making on the eu that is not in any other trade deal.Funny japan and canada didnt seem to have a problem maybe because they didnt want to make our laws too.I will ask again tell me a country that has sold its kids ,grandkids and so on, rights of its government to make rules out to a foreign power for a trade deal? I don’t remember Canada & Japan ever being in the EU? what has that got to do with anything? fancy answering the question? It got everything to do with the question, why should the EU give the UK the same deal as Canada & Japan come on now there are 195 countries to choose from stop trying to defect from the question and give me an answer. The answer is simple and obvious, the EU are protecting the interests of their members, giving the UK the same deal as Japan & Canada would not be fair on the EU nations. The funny thing about this is the fact that everyone with a brain knew this would happen, you can’t possible be surprised you knew what you were voting for so whats the answer seems your mate has baled and left you to answer do you want a clue? I have just given you the answer Its between minus one and one. I have just given you the answer, it is that simple , you knew we weren’t going to get a Canada or Japan deal Right so we are at least in agreement we should not let the eu have control over some of our rules is that correct? Where did I say that? , the EU are trying to protect their members, they are trying to get the best deal for them, so you think they should have control over some of our rules then? When it come to trading with the EU? Yes, it is in their best interests, you seem shocked that this is happening ok so your willing to sell out future generations rights for an eu trade deal fair enough im sure a lot of people would disagree but at least i know where you stand now. Calm down, you seem a bit surprised this is happening? There won’t be a deal, apparently we don’t need one and a no deal is a good outcome ??Well the eu have moved the goalposts the withdrawal agreement said they would reckonise uk sovereignty which that certainly isnt. anyway getting off track im trying to get to the bottom of your logic, so what is the eu superstate worried about that the uk can do that canada cant? as they dont want to have power over Canada,s government. A Canada deal was never an option, I am sure you realised this, just be happy that there will be a no deal, it is what you voted for Thats not really answering my question,what is the reason? I have given you the reasons, is a no deal a good outcome? No you haven't ,not got an answer as to why? Yes I have, it is all there . Don’t worry, a no deal is a good outcome ? It was never an option is not an answer i would like to know what the uk can do that canada or japan for that matter cant?,its a simple enough question. Have a read https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-politics-51549662 Btw, is a no deal a good outcome or not? Im trying to get to why you think the way you do not bbc news.I already know that you believe the eu should be able to make uk rules even though we are not in it anymore. I now want to know why you think they should when no other country in the world would sign up to something like that and what possible reason do you think they want us to.Just an answer will sufice we can discuss other bits after." I will answer again, they are doing it to safe guard their members interests, it really is that simple. There was never any chance of a Canada deal, the EU repeatedly told us that . I can’t understand why you are so worried about this, a no deal is going to be a good outcome? | |||
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"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal. The EU should shoud have the upper hand it's Boris and his bunch of moron cabinet little Englanders. Boris can't have his cake and eat it. What is this cake and eat it wanting to be able to make your own rules for your own country? If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has. True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ? What amazes me is that the EU haven’t buckled and given the UK everything they asked for , ‘we hold all the cards’ ‘easiest deal in history ‘ etc etc i dont see the uk asking for anything its the eu asking the impossible. Do you not think there is the tiniest possibility, that maybe,just maybe, that both sides take some responsibility here?Tell me what demands the uk is making on the eu that is not in any other trade deal.Funny japan and canada didnt seem to have a problem maybe because they didnt want to make our laws too.I will ask again tell me a country that has sold its kids ,grandkids and so on, rights of its government to make rules out to a foreign power for a trade deal? I don’t remember Canada & Japan ever being in the EU? what has that got to do with anything? fancy answering the question? It got everything to do with the question, why should the EU give the UK the same deal as Canada & Japan come on now there are 195 countries to choose from stop trying to defect from the question and give me an answer. The answer is simple and obvious, the EU are protecting the interests of their members, giving the UK the same deal as Japan & Canada would not be fair on the EU nations. The funny thing about this is the fact that everyone with a brain knew this would happen, you can’t possible be surprised you knew what you were voting for so whats the answer seems your mate has baled and left you to answer do you want a clue? I have just given you the answer Its between minus one and one. I have just given you the answer, it is that simple , you knew we weren’t going to get a Canada or Japan deal Right so we are at least in agreement we should not let the eu have control over some of our rules is that correct? Where did I say that? , the EU are trying to protect their members, they are trying to get the best deal for them, so you think they should have control over some of our rules then? When it come to trading with the EU? Yes, it is in their best interests, you seem shocked that this is happening ok so your willing to sell out future generations rights for an eu trade deal fair enough im sure a lot of people would disagree but at least i know where you stand now. Calm down, you seem a bit surprised this is happening? There won’t be a deal, apparently we don’t need one and a no deal is a good outcome ??Well the eu have moved the goalposts the withdrawal agreement said they would reckonise uk sovereignty which that certainly isnt. anyway getting off track im trying to get to the bottom of your logic, so what is the eu superstate worried about that the uk can do that canada cant? as they dont want to have power over Canada,s government. A Canada deal was never an option, I am sure you realised this, just be happy that there will be a no deal, it is what you voted for Thats not really answering my question,what is the reason? I have given you the reasons, is a no deal a good outcome? No you haven't ,not got an answer as to why? Yes I have, it is all there . Don’t worry, a no deal is a good outcome ? It was never an option is not an answer i would like to know what the uk can do that canada or japan for that matter cant?,its a simple enough question. Have a read https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-politics-51549662 Btw, is a no deal a good outcome or not? Im trying to get to why you think the way you do not bbc news.I already know that you believe the eu should be able to make uk rules even though we are not in it anymore. I now want to know why you think they should when no other country in the world would sign up to something like that and what possible reason do you think they want us to.Just an answer will sufice we can discuss other bits after. I will answer again, they are doing it to safe guard their members interests, it really is that simple. There was never any chance of a Canada deal, the EU repeatedly told us that . I can’t understand why you are so worried about this, a no deal is going to be a good outcome? " But how is it safeguarding their interests explain what we can do that canada or japan cant? | |||
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"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal. The EU should shoud have the upper hand it's Boris and his bunch of moron cabinet little Englanders. Boris can't have his cake and eat it. What is this cake and eat it wanting to be able to make your own rules for your own country? If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has. True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ? What amazes me is that the EU haven’t buckled and given the UK everything they asked for , ‘we hold all the cards’ ‘easiest deal in history ‘ etc etc i dont see the uk asking for anything its the eu asking the impossible. Do you not think there is the tiniest possibility, that maybe,just maybe, that both sides take some responsibility here?Tell me what demands the uk is making on the eu that is not in any other trade deal.Funny japan and canada didnt seem to have a problem maybe because they didnt want to make our laws too.I will ask again tell me a country that has sold its kids ,grandkids and so on, rights of its government to make rules out to a foreign power for a trade deal? I don’t remember Canada & Japan ever being in the EU? what has that got to do with anything? fancy answering the question? It got everything to do with the question, why should the EU give the UK the same deal as Canada & Japan come on now there are 195 countries to choose from stop trying to defect from the question and give me an answer. The answer is simple and obvious, the EU are protecting the interests of their members, giving the UK the same deal as Japan & Canada would not be fair on the EU nations. The funny thing about this is the fact that everyone with a brain knew this would happen, you can’t possible be surprised you knew what you were voting for so whats the answer seems your mate has baled and left you to answer do you want a clue? I have just given you the answer Its between minus one and one. I have just given you the answer, it is that simple , you knew we weren’t going to get a Canada or Japan deal Right so we are at least in agreement we should not let the eu have control over some of our rules is that correct? Where did I say that? , the EU are trying to protect their members, they are trying to get the best deal for them, so you think they should have control over some of our rules then? When it come to trading with the EU? Yes, it is in their best interests, you seem shocked that this is happening ok so your willing to sell out future generations rights for an eu trade deal fair enough im sure a lot of people would disagree but at least i know where you stand now. Calm down, you seem a bit surprised this is happening? There won’t be a deal, apparently we don’t need one and a no deal is a good outcome ??Well the eu have moved the goalposts the withdrawal agreement said they would reckonise uk sovereignty which that certainly isnt. anyway getting off track im trying to get to the bottom of your logic, so what is the eu superstate worried about that the uk can do that canada cant? as they dont want to have power over Canada,s government. A Canada deal was never an option, I am sure you realised this, just be happy that there will be a no deal, it is what you voted for Thats not really answering my question,what is the reason? I have given you the reasons, is a no deal a good outcome? No you haven't ,not got an answer as to why? Yes I have, it is all there . Don’t worry, a no deal is a good outcome ? It was never an option is not an answer i would like to know what the uk can do that canada or japan for that matter cant?,its a simple enough question. Have a read https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-politics-51549662 Btw, is a no deal a good outcome or not? Im trying to get to why you think the way you do not bbc news.I already know that you believe the eu should be able to make uk rules even though we are not in it anymore. I now want to know why you think they should when no other country in the world would sign up to something like that and what possible reason do you think they want us to.Just an answer will sufice we can discuss other bits after. I will answer again, they are doing it to safe guard their members interests, it really is that simple. There was never any chance of a Canada deal, the EU repeatedly told us that . I can’t understand why you are so worried about this, a no deal is going to be a good outcome? But how is it safeguarding their interests explain what we can do that canada or japan cant? " Proximity , the Uk are a bigger competitor than Canada, we dont trade the same things. Maybe Canada have better trade negotiators that the UK, maybe the EU like Canada better, Maybe the UKs negotiators are useless, take your pick. But don’t worry, a no deal is a good outcome ?? | |||
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"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal. The EU should shoud have the upper hand it's Boris and his bunch of moron cabinet little Englanders. Boris can't have his cake and eat it. What is this cake and eat it wanting to be able to make your own rules for your own country? If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has. True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ? What amazes me is that the EU haven’t buckled and given the UK everything they asked for , ‘we hold all the cards’ ‘easiest deal in history ‘ etc etc i dont see the uk asking for anything its the eu asking the impossible. Do you not think there is the tiniest possibility, that maybe,just maybe, that both sides take some responsibility here?Tell me what demands the uk is making on the eu that is not in any other trade deal.Funny japan and canada didnt seem to have a problem maybe because they didnt want to make our laws too.I will ask again tell me a country that has sold its kids ,grandkids and so on, rights of its government to make rules out to a foreign power for a trade deal? I don’t remember Canada & Japan ever being in the EU? what has that got to do with anything? fancy answering the question? It got everything to do with the question, why should the EU give the UK the same deal as Canada & Japan come on now there are 195 countries to choose from stop trying to defect from the question and give me an answer. The answer is simple and obvious, the EU are protecting the interests of their members, giving the UK the same deal as Japan & Canada would not be fair on the EU nations. The funny thing about this is the fact that everyone with a brain knew this would happen, you can’t possible be surprised you knew what you were voting for so whats the answer seems your mate has baled and left you to answer do you want a clue? I have just given you the answer Its between minus one and one. I have just given you the answer, it is that simple , you knew we weren’t going to get a Canada or Japan deal Right so we are at least in agreement we should not let the eu have control over some of our rules is that correct? Where did I say that? , the EU are trying to protect their members, they are trying to get the best deal for them, so you think they should have control over some of our rules then? When it come to trading with the EU? Yes, it is in their best interests, you seem shocked that this is happening ok so your willing to sell out future generations rights for an eu trade deal fair enough im sure a lot of people would disagree but at least i know where you stand now. Calm down, you seem a bit surprised this is happening? There won’t be a deal, apparently we don’t need one and a no deal is a good outcome ??Well the eu have moved the goalposts the withdrawal agreement said they would reckonise uk sovereignty which that certainly isnt. anyway getting off track im trying to get to the bottom of your logic, so what is the eu superstate worried about that the uk can do that canada cant? as they dont want to have power over Canada,s government. A Canada deal was never an option, I am sure you realised this, just be happy that there will be a no deal, it is what you voted for Thats not really answering my question,what is the reason? I have given you the reasons, is a no deal a good outcome? No you haven't ,not got an answer as to why? Yes I have, it is all there . Don’t worry, a no deal is a good outcome ? It was never an option is not an answer i would like to know what the uk can do that canada or japan for that matter cant?,its a simple enough question. Have a read https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-politics-51549662 Btw, is a no deal a good outcome or not? Im trying to get to why you think the way you do not bbc news.I already know that you believe the eu should be able to make uk rules even though we are not in it anymore. I now want to know why you think they should when no other country in the world would sign up to something like that and what possible reason do you think they want us to.Just an answer will sufice we can discuss other bits after. I will answer again, they are doing it to safe guard their members interests, it really is that simple. There was never any chance of a Canada deal, the EU repeatedly told us that . I can’t understand why you are so worried about this, a no deal is going to be a good outcome? But how is it safeguarding their interests explain what we can do that canada or japan cant? Proximity , the Uk are a bigger competitor than Canada, we dont trade the same things. Maybe Canada have better trade negotiators that the UK, maybe the EU like Canada better, Maybe the UKs negotiators are useless, take your pick. But don’t worry, a no deal is a good outcome ??" Proximity to who which countries are the uk closer to than the eu countries? | |||
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"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal. The EU should shoud have the upper hand it's Boris and his bunch of moron cabinet little Englanders. Boris can't have his cake and eat it. What is this cake and eat it wanting to be able to make your own rules for your own country? If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has. True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ? What amazes me is that the EU haven’t buckled and given the UK everything they asked for , ‘we hold all the cards’ ‘easiest deal in history ‘ etc etc i dont see the uk asking for anything its the eu asking the impossible. Do you not think there is the tiniest possibility, that maybe,just maybe, that both sides take some responsibility here?Tell me what demands the uk is making on the eu that is not in any other trade deal.Funny japan and canada didnt seem to have a problem maybe because they didnt want to make our laws too.I will ask again tell me a country that has sold its kids ,grandkids and so on, rights of its government to make rules out to a foreign power for a trade deal? I don’t remember Canada & Japan ever being in the EU? what has that got to do with anything? fancy answering the question? It got everything to do with the question, why should the EU give the UK the same deal as Canada & Japan come on now there are 195 countries to choose from stop trying to defect from the question and give me an answer. The answer is simple and obvious, the EU are protecting the interests of their members, giving the UK the same deal as Japan & Canada would not be fair on the EU nations. The funny thing about this is the fact that everyone with a brain knew this would happen, you can’t possible be surprised you knew what you were voting for so whats the answer seems your mate has baled and left you to answer do you want a clue? I have just given you the answer Its between minus one and one. I have just given you the answer, it is that simple , you knew we weren’t going to get a Canada or Japan deal Right so we are at least in agreement we should not let the eu have control over some of our rules is that correct? Where did I say that? , the EU are trying to protect their members, they are trying to get the best deal for them, so you think they should have control over some of our rules then? When it come to trading with the EU? Yes, it is in their best interests, you seem shocked that this is happening ok so your willing to sell out future generations rights for an eu trade deal fair enough im sure a lot of people would disagree but at least i know where you stand now. Calm down, you seem a bit surprised this is happening? There won’t be a deal, apparently we don’t need one and a no deal is a good outcome ??Well the eu have moved the goalposts the withdrawal agreement said they would reckonise uk sovereignty which that certainly isnt. anyway getting off track im trying to get to the bottom of your logic, so what is the eu superstate worried about that the uk can do that canada cant? as they dont want to have power over Canada,s government. A Canada deal was never an option, I am sure you realised this, just be happy that there will be a no deal, it is what you voted for Thats not really answering my question,what is the reason? I have given you the reasons, is a no deal a good outcome? No you haven't ,not got an answer as to why? Yes I have, it is all there . Don’t worry, a no deal is a good outcome ? It was never an option is not an answer i would like to know what the uk can do that canada or japan for that matter cant?,its a simple enough question. Have a read https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-politics-51549662 Btw, is a no deal a good outcome or not? Im trying to get to why you think the way you do not bbc news.I already know that you believe the eu should be able to make uk rules even though we are not in it anymore. I now want to know why you think they should when no other country in the world would sign up to something like that and what possible reason do you think they want us to.Just an answer will sufice we can discuss other bits after. I will answer again, they are doing it to safe guard their members interests, it really is that simple. There was never any chance of a Canada deal, the EU repeatedly told us that . I can’t understand why you are so worried about this, a no deal is going to be a good outcome? But how is it safeguarding their interests explain what we can do that canada or japan cant? Proximity , the Uk are a bigger competitor than Canada, we dont trade the same things. Maybe Canada have better trade negotiators that the UK, maybe the EU like Canada better, Maybe the UKs negotiators are useless, take your pick. But don’t worry, a no deal is a good outcome ??Proximity to who which countries are the uk closer to than the eu countries?" That is exactly my point, tbh I think the EU have realised that our government and their negotiating skills are pathetic , this was all so predictable, it’s looking like a no deal, so a good outcome ? | |||
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"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal. The EU should shoud have the upper hand it's Boris and his bunch of moron cabinet little Englanders. Boris can't have his cake and eat it. What is this cake and eat it wanting to be able to make your own rules for your own country? If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has. True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ? What amazes me is that the EU haven’t buckled and given the UK everything they asked for , ‘we hold all the cards’ ‘easiest deal in history ‘ etc etc i dont see the uk asking for anything its the eu asking the impossible. Do you not think there is the tiniest possibility, that maybe,just maybe, that both sides take some responsibility here?Tell me what demands the uk is making on the eu that is not in any other trade deal.Funny japan and canada didnt seem to have a problem maybe because they didnt want to make our laws too.I will ask again tell me a country that has sold its kids ,grandkids and so on, rights of its government to make rules out to a foreign power for a trade deal? I don’t remember Canada & Japan ever being in the EU? what has that got to do with anything? fancy answering the question? It got everything to do with the question, why should the EU give the UK the same deal as Canada & Japan come on now there are 195 countries to choose from stop trying to defect from the question and give me an answer. The answer is simple and obvious, the EU are protecting the interests of their members, giving the UK the same deal as Japan & Canada would not be fair on the EU nations. The funny thing about this is the fact that everyone with a brain knew this would happen, you can’t possible be surprised you knew what you were voting for so whats the answer seems your mate has baled and left you to answer do you want a clue? I have just given you the answer Its between minus one and one. I have just given you the answer, it is that simple , you knew we weren’t going to get a Canada or Japan deal Right so we are at least in agreement we should not let the eu have control over some of our rules is that correct? Where did I say that? , the EU are trying to protect their members, they are trying to get the best deal for them, so you think they should have control over some of our rules then? When it come to trading with the EU? Yes, it is in their best interests, you seem shocked that this is happening ok so your willing to sell out future generations rights for an eu trade deal fair enough im sure a lot of people would disagree but at least i know where you stand now. Calm down, you seem a bit surprised this is happening? There won’t be a deal, apparently we don’t need one and a no deal is a good outcome ??Well the eu have moved the goalposts the withdrawal agreement said they would reckonise uk sovereignty which that certainly isnt. anyway getting off track im trying to get to the bottom of your logic, so what is the eu superstate worried about that the uk can do that canada cant? as they dont want to have power over Canada,s government. A Canada deal was never an option, I am sure you realised this, just be happy that there will be a no deal, it is what you voted for Thats not really answering my question,what is the reason? I have given you the reasons, is a no deal a good outcome? No you haven't ,not got an answer as to why? Yes I have, it is all there . Don’t worry, a no deal is a good outcome ? It was never an option is not an answer i would like to know what the uk can do that canada or japan for that matter cant?,its a simple enough question. Have a read https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-politics-51549662 Btw, is a no deal a good outcome or not? Im trying to get to why you think the way you do not bbc news.I already know that you believe the eu should be able to make uk rules even though we are not in it anymore. I now want to know why you think they should when no other country in the world would sign up to something like that and what possible reason do you think they want us to.Just an answer will sufice we can discuss other bits after. I will answer again, they are doing it to safe guard their members interests, it really is that simple. There was never any chance of a Canada deal, the EU repeatedly told us that . I can’t understand why you are so worried about this, a no deal is going to be a good outcome? But how is it safeguarding their interests explain what we can do that canada or japan cant? Proximity , the Uk are a bigger competitor than Canada, we dont trade the same things. Maybe Canada have better trade negotiators that the UK, maybe the EU like Canada better, Maybe the UKs negotiators are useless, take your pick. But don’t worry, a no deal is a good outcome ??Proximity to who which countries are the uk closer to than the eu countries? That is exactly my point, tbh I think the EU have realised that our government and their negotiating skills are pathetic , this was all so predictable, it’s looking like a no deal, so a good outcome ? " You keep going off track you say proximity what does that mean There are no countries nearer the uk than the eu we can trade with so dont get that argument at all.I think by your lack of answers you are begining to see there is no reason apart from not wanting to let go of control just like a bitter person in a divorse. | |||
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"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal. The EU should shoud have the upper hand it's Boris and his bunch of moron cabinet little Englanders. Boris can't have his cake and eat it. What is this cake and eat it wanting to be able to make your own rules for your own country? If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has. True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ? What amazes me is that the EU haven’t buckled and given the UK everything they asked for , ‘we hold all the cards’ ‘easiest deal in history ‘ etc etc i dont see the uk asking for anything its the eu asking the impossible. Do you not think there is the tiniest possibility, that maybe,just maybe, that both sides take some responsibility here?Tell me what demands the uk is making on the eu that is not in any other trade deal.Funny japan and canada didnt seem to have a problem maybe because they didnt want to make our laws too.I will ask again tell me a country that has sold its kids ,grandkids and so on, rights of its government to make rules out to a foreign power for a trade deal? I don’t remember Canada & Japan ever being in the EU? what has that got to do with anything? fancy answering the question? It got everything to do with the question, why should the EU give the UK the same deal as Canada & Japan come on now there are 195 countries to choose from stop trying to defect from the question and give me an answer. The answer is simple and obvious, the EU are protecting the interests of their members, giving the UK the same deal as Japan & Canada would not be fair on the EU nations. The funny thing about this is the fact that everyone with a brain knew this would happen, you can’t possible be surprised you knew what you were voting for so whats the answer seems your mate has baled and left you to answer do you want a clue? I have just given you the answer Its between minus one and one. I have just given you the answer, it is that simple , you knew we weren’t going to get a Canada or Japan deal Right so we are at least in agreement we should not let the eu have control over some of our rules is that correct? Where did I say that? , the EU are trying to protect their members, they are trying to get the best deal for them, so you think they should have control over some of our rules then? When it come to trading with the EU? Yes, it is in their best interests, you seem shocked that this is happening ok so your willing to sell out future generations rights for an eu trade deal fair enough im sure a lot of people would disagree but at least i know where you stand now. Calm down, you seem a bit surprised this is happening? There won’t be a deal, apparently we don’t need one and a no deal is a good outcome ??Well the eu have moved the goalposts the withdrawal agreement said they would reckonise uk sovereignty which that certainly isnt. anyway getting off track im trying to get to the bottom of your logic, so what is the eu superstate worried about that the uk can do that canada cant? as they dont want to have power over Canada,s government. A Canada deal was never an option, I am sure you realised this, just be happy that there will be a no deal, it is what you voted for Thats not really answering my question,what is the reason? I have given you the reasons, is a no deal a good outcome? No you haven't ,not got an answer as to why? Yes I have, it is all there . Don’t worry, a no deal is a good outcome ? It was never an option is not an answer i would like to know what the uk can do that canada or japan for that matter cant?,its a simple enough question. Have a read https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-politics-51549662 Btw, is a no deal a good outcome or not? Im trying to get to why you think the way you do not bbc news.I already know that you believe the eu should be able to make uk rules even though we are not in it anymore. I now want to know why you think they should when no other country in the world would sign up to something like that and what possible reason do you think they want us to.Just an answer will sufice we can discuss other bits after. I will answer again, they are doing it to safe guard their members interests, it really is that simple. There was never any chance of a Canada deal, the EU repeatedly told us that . I can’t understand why you are so worried about this, a no deal is going to be a good outcome? But how is it safeguarding their interests explain what we can do that canada or japan cant? Proximity , the Uk are a bigger competitor than Canada, we dont trade the same things. Maybe Canada have better trade negotiators that the UK, maybe the EU like Canada better, Maybe the UKs negotiators are useless, take your pick. But don’t worry, a no deal is a good outcome ??" maybe th eu like Canada better ffs lol | |||
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"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal. The EU should shoud have the upper hand it's Boris and his bunch of moron cabinet little Englanders. Boris can't have his cake and eat it. What is this cake and eat it wanting to be able to make your own rules for your own country? If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has. True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ? What amazes me is that the EU haven’t buckled and given the UK everything they asked for , ‘we hold all the cards’ ‘easiest deal in history ‘ etc etc i dont see the uk asking for anything its the eu asking the impossible. Do you not think there is the tiniest possibility, that maybe,just maybe, that both sides take some responsibility here?Tell me what demands the uk is making on the eu that is not in any other trade deal.Funny japan and canada didnt seem to have a problem maybe because they didnt want to make our laws too.I will ask again tell me a country that has sold its kids ,grandkids and so on, rights of its government to make rules out to a foreign power for a trade deal? I don’t remember Canada & Japan ever being in the EU? what has that got to do with anything? fancy answering the question? It got everything to do with the question, why should the EU give the UK the same deal as Canada & Japan come on now there are 195 countries to choose from stop trying to defect from the question and give me an answer. The answer is simple and obvious, the EU are protecting the interests of their members, giving the UK the same deal as Japan & Canada would not be fair on the EU nations. The funny thing about this is the fact that everyone with a brain knew this would happen, you can’t possible be surprised you knew what you were voting for so whats the answer seems your mate has baled and left you to answer do you want a clue? I have just given you the answer Its between minus one and one. I have just given you the answer, it is that simple , you knew we weren’t going to get a Canada or Japan deal Right so we are at least in agreement we should not let the eu have control over some of our rules is that correct? Where did I say that? , the EU are trying to protect their members, they are trying to get the best deal for them, so you think they should have control over some of our rules then? When it come to trading with the EU? Yes, it is in their best interests, you seem shocked that this is happening ok so your willing to sell out future generations rights for an eu trade deal fair enough im sure a lot of people would disagree but at least i know where you stand now. Calm down, you seem a bit surprised this is happening? There won’t be a deal, apparently we don’t need one and a no deal is a good outcome ??Well the eu have moved the goalposts the withdrawal agreement said they would reckonise uk sovereignty which that certainly isnt. anyway getting off track im trying to get to the bottom of your logic, so what is the eu superstate worried about that the uk can do that canada cant? as they dont want to have power over Canada,s government. A Canada deal was never an option, I am sure you realised this, just be happy that there will be a no deal, it is what you voted for Thats not really answering my question,what is the reason? I have given you the reasons, is a no deal a good outcome? No you haven't ,not got an answer as to why? Yes I have, it is all there . Don’t worry, a no deal is a good outcome ? It was never an option is not an answer i would like to know what the uk can do that canada or japan for that matter cant?,its a simple enough question. Have a read https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-politics-51549662 Btw, is a no deal a good outcome or not? Im trying to get to why you think the way you do not bbc news.I already know that you believe the eu should be able to make uk rules even though we are not in it anymore. I now want to know why you think they should when no other country in the world would sign up to something like that and what possible reason do you think they want us to.Just an answer will sufice we can discuss other bits after. I will answer again, they are doing it to safe guard their members interests, it really is that simple. There was never any chance of a Canada deal, the EU repeatedly told us that . I can’t understand why you are so worried about this, a no deal is going to be a good outcome? But how is it safeguarding their interests explain what we can do that canada or japan cant? Proximity , the Uk are a bigger competitor than Canada, we dont trade the same things. Maybe Canada have better trade negotiators that the UK, maybe the EU like Canada better, Maybe the UKs negotiators are useless, take your pick. But don’t worry, a no deal is a good outcome ??Proximity to who which countries are the uk closer to than the eu countries? That is exactly my point, tbh I think the EU have realised that our government and their negotiating skills are pathetic , this was all so predictable, it’s looking like a no deal, so a good outcome ? You keep going off track you say proximity what does that mean There are no countries nearer the uk than the eu we can trade with so dont get that argument at all.I think by your lack of answers you are begining to see there is no reason apart from not wanting to let go of control just like a bitter person in a divorse. " I think it boils down to the fact that the EU doesn’t trust or rate our government and their negotiating skills. They have spectacularly fucked up the ‘easiest deal in history’ whilst ‘holding all the cards’ you have got your Brexit dream team at the helm, what a farce | |||
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"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal. The EU should shoud have the upper hand it's Boris and his bunch of moron cabinet little Englanders. Boris can't have his cake and eat it. What is this cake and eat it wanting to be able to make your own rules for your own country? If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has. True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ? What amazes me is that the EU haven’t buckled and given the UK everything they asked for , ‘we hold all the cards’ ‘easiest deal in history ‘ etc etc i dont see the uk asking for anything its the eu asking the impossible. Do you not think there is the tiniest possibility, that maybe,just maybe, that both sides take some responsibility here?Tell me what demands the uk is making on the eu that is not in any other trade deal.Funny japan and canada didnt seem to have a problem maybe because they didnt want to make our laws too.I will ask again tell me a country that has sold its kids ,grandkids and so on, rights of its government to make rules out to a foreign power for a trade deal? I don’t remember Canada & Japan ever being in the EU? what has that got to do with anything? fancy answering the question? It got everything to do with the question, why should the EU give the UK the same deal as Canada & Japan come on now there are 195 countries to choose from stop trying to defect from the question and give me an answer. The answer is simple and obvious, the EU are protecting the interests of their members, giving the UK the same deal as Japan & Canada would not be fair on the EU nations. The funny thing about this is the fact that everyone with a brain knew this would happen, you can’t possible be surprised you knew what you were voting for so whats the answer seems your mate has baled and left you to answer do you want a clue? I have just given you the answer Its between minus one and one. I have just given you the answer, it is that simple , you knew we weren’t going to get a Canada or Japan deal Right so we are at least in agreement we should not let the eu have control over some of our rules is that correct? Where did I say that? , the EU are trying to protect their members, they are trying to get the best deal for them, so you think they should have control over some of our rules then? When it come to trading with the EU? Yes, it is in their best interests, you seem shocked that this is happening ok so your willing to sell out future generations rights for an eu trade deal fair enough im sure a lot of people would disagree but at least i know where you stand now. Calm down, you seem a bit surprised this is happening? There won’t be a deal, apparently we don’t need one and a no deal is a good outcome ??Well the eu have moved the goalposts the withdrawal agreement said they would reckonise uk sovereignty which that certainly isnt. anyway getting off track im trying to get to the bottom of your logic, so what is the eu superstate worried about that the uk can do that canada cant? as they dont want to have power over Canada,s government. A Canada deal was never an option, I am sure you realised this, just be happy that there will be a no deal, it is what you voted for Thats not really answering my question,what is the reason? I have given you the reasons, is a no deal a good outcome? No you haven't ,not got an answer as to why? Yes I have, it is all there . Don’t worry, a no deal is a good outcome ? It was never an option is not an answer i would like to know what the uk can do that canada or japan for that matter cant?,its a simple enough question. Have a read https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-politics-51549662 Btw, is a no deal a good outcome or not? Im trying to get to why you think the way you do not bbc news.I already know that you believe the eu should be able to make uk rules even though we are not in it anymore. I now want to know why you think they should when no other country in the world would sign up to something like that and what possible reason do you think they want us to.Just an answer will sufice we can discuss other bits after. I will answer again, they are doing it to safe guard their members interests, it really is that simple. There was never any chance of a Canada deal, the EU repeatedly told us that . I can’t understand why you are so worried about this, a no deal is going to be a good outcome? But how is it safeguarding their interests explain what we can do that canada or japan cant? Proximity , the Uk are a bigger competitor than Canada, we dont trade the same things. Maybe Canada have better trade negotiators that the UK, maybe the EU like Canada better, Maybe the UKs negotiators are useless, take your pick. But don’t worry, a no deal is a good outcome ??maybe th eu like Canada better ffs lol" Maybe they trust and respect their government more than they do ours? Who knows? The fact is we won’t be getting a Canada deal, get over it, move on and embrace a glorious no deal Brexit, after all , it is what you voted for | |||
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"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal. The EU should shoud have the upper hand it's Boris and his bunch of moron cabinet little Englanders. Boris can't have his cake and eat it. What is this cake and eat it wanting to be able to make your own rules for your own country? If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has. True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ? What amazes me is that the EU haven’t buckled and given the UK everything they asked for , ‘we hold all the cards’ ‘easiest deal in history ‘ etc etc i dont see the uk asking for anything its the eu asking the impossible. Do you not think there is the tiniest possibility, that maybe,just maybe, that both sides take some responsibility here?Tell me what demands the uk is making on the eu that is not in any other trade deal.Funny japan and canada didnt seem to have a problem maybe because they didnt want to make our laws too.I will ask again tell me a country that has sold its kids ,grandkids and so on, rights of its government to make rules out to a foreign power for a trade deal? I don’t remember Canada & Japan ever being in the EU? what has that got to do with anything? fancy answering the question? It got everything to do with the question, why should the EU give the UK the same deal as Canada & Japan come on now there are 195 countries to choose from stop trying to defect from the question and give me an answer. The answer is simple and obvious, the EU are protecting the interests of their members, giving the UK the same deal as Japan & Canada would not be fair on the EU nations. The funny thing about this is the fact that everyone with a brain knew this would happen, you can’t possible be surprised you knew what you were voting for so whats the answer seems your mate has baled and left you to answer do you want a clue? I have just given you the answer Its between minus one and one. I have just given you the answer, it is that simple , you knew we weren’t going to get a Canada or Japan deal Right so we are at least in agreement we should not let the eu have control over some of our rules is that correct? Where did I say that? , the EU are trying to protect their members, they are trying to get the best deal for them, so you think they should have control over some of our rules then? When it come to trading with the EU? Yes, it is in their best interests, you seem shocked that this is happening ok so your willing to sell out future generations rights for an eu trade deal fair enough im sure a lot of people would disagree but at least i know where you stand now. Calm down, you seem a bit surprised this is happening? There won’t be a deal, apparently we don’t need one and a no deal is a good outcome ??Well the eu have moved the goalposts the withdrawal agreement said they would reckonise uk sovereignty which that certainly isnt. anyway getting off track im trying to get to the bottom of your logic, so what is the eu superstate worried about that the uk can do that canada cant? as they dont want to have power over Canada,s government. A Canada deal was never an option, I am sure you realised this, just be happy that there will be a no deal, it is what you voted for Thats not really answering my question,what is the reason? I have given you the reasons, is a no deal a good outcome? No you haven't ,not got an answer as to why? Yes I have, it is all there . Don’t worry, a no deal is a good outcome ? It was never an option is not an answer i would like to know what the uk can do that canada or japan for that matter cant?,its a simple enough question. Have a read https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-politics-51549662 Btw, is a no deal a good outcome or not? Im trying to get to why you think the way you do not bbc news.I already know that you believe the eu should be able to make uk rules even though we are not in it anymore. I now want to know why you think they should when no other country in the world would sign up to something like that and what possible reason do you think they want us to.Just an answer will sufice we can discuss other bits after. I will answer again, they are doing it to safe guard their members interests, it really is that simple. There was never any chance of a Canada deal, the EU repeatedly told us that . I can’t understand why you are so worried about this, a no deal is going to be a good outcome? But how is it safeguarding their interests explain what we can do that canada or japan cant? Proximity , the Uk are a bigger competitor than Canada, we dont trade the same things. Maybe Canada have better trade negotiators that the UK, maybe the EU like Canada better, Maybe the UKs negotiators are useless, take your pick. But don’t worry, a no deal is a good outcome ??maybe th eu like Canada better ffs lol Maybe they trust and respect their government more than they do ours? Who knows? The fact is we won’t be getting a Canada deal, get over it, move on and embrace a glorious no deal Brexit, after all , it is what you voted for " Or maybe they just cant stand losing control. I wouldnt knock our negotiators we have already established that you would give the eu control over our parliament for ever. | |||
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"I don’t think the drench have ever respected the U.K. do you ? amd your jumping the gun again sit back there still negotiating you’ve predicted a deal all along now yr saying it’s a no deal you know something we don’t bud ?" I know one thing, I never predicted a Canada deal. I thought a deal would be more likely when Biden won the US election, maybe there will be a last minute deal, but I keep hearing a no deal is a good outcome ? So does it matter if we get a deal or not? | |||
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"A Canada style deal was originally offered on the list of possibles by Mr Barnier but the EU then changed there minds. They are entitled to, " Yes they are entitled too change there minds, and so are we, works both ways after all , but you said a canada style deal was never offered which in fact it was. It was offered early on in 2017 and removed at the beginning of this year. | |||
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"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal. The EU should shoud have the upper hand it's Boris and his bunch of moron cabinet little Englanders. Boris can't have his cake and eat it. What is this cake and eat it wanting to be able to make your own rules for your own country? If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has. True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ? What amazes me is that the EU haven’t buckled and given the UK everything they asked for , ‘we hold all the cards’ ‘easiest deal in history ‘ etc etc i dont see the uk asking for anything its the eu asking the impossible. Do you not think there is the tiniest possibility, that maybe,just maybe, that both sides take some responsibility here?Tell me what demands the uk is making on the eu that is not in any other trade deal.Funny japan and canada didnt seem to have a problem maybe because they didnt want to make our laws too.I will ask again tell me a country that has sold its kids ,grandkids and so on, rights of its government to make rules out to a foreign power for a trade deal? I don’t remember Canada & Japan ever being in the EU? what has that got to do with anything? fancy answering the question? It got everything to do with the question, why should the EU give the UK the same deal as Canada & Japan come on now there are 195 countries to choose from stop trying to defect from the question and give me an answer. The answer is simple and obvious, the EU are protecting the interests of their members, giving the UK the same deal as Japan & Canada would not be fair on the EU nations. The funny thing about this is the fact that everyone with a brain knew this would happen, you can’t possible be surprised you knew what you were voting for so whats the answer seems your mate has baled and left you to answer do you want a clue? I have just given you the answer Its between minus one and one. I have just given you the answer, it is that simple , you knew we weren’t going to get a Canada or Japan deal Right so we are at least in agreement we should not let the eu have control over some of our rules is that correct? Where did I say that? , the EU are trying to protect their members, they are trying to get the best deal for them, so you think they should have control over some of our rules then? When it come to trading with the EU? Yes, it is in their best interests, you seem shocked that this is happening ok so your willing to sell out future generations rights for an eu trade deal fair enough im sure a lot of people would disagree but at least i know where you stand now. Calm down, you seem a bit surprised this is happening? There won’t be a deal, apparently we don’t need one and a no deal is a good outcome ??Well the eu have moved the goalposts the withdrawal agreement said they would reckonise uk sovereignty which that certainly isnt. anyway getting off track im trying to get to the bottom of your logic, so what is the eu superstate worried about that the uk can do that canada cant? as they dont want to have power over Canada,s government. A Canada deal was never an option, I am sure you realised this, just be happy that there will be a no deal, it is what you voted for Thats not really answering my question,what is the reason? I have given you the reasons, is a no deal a good outcome? No you haven't ,not got an answer as to why? Yes I have, it is all there . Don’t worry, a no deal is a good outcome ? It was never an option is not an answer i would like to know what the uk can do that canada or japan for that matter cant?,its a simple enough question. Have a read https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-politics-51549662 Btw, is a no deal a good outcome or not? Im trying to get to why you think the way you do not bbc news.I already know that you believe the eu should be able to make uk rules even though we are not in it anymore. I now want to know why you think they should when no other country in the world would sign up to something like that and what possible reason do you think they want us to.Just an answer will sufice we can discuss other bits after. I will answer again, they are doing it to safe guard their members interests, it really is that simple. There was never any chance of a Canada deal, the EU repeatedly told us that . I can’t understand why you are so worried about this, a no deal is going to be a good outcome? But how is it safeguarding their interests explain what we can do that canada or japan cant? Proximity , the Uk are a bigger competitor than Canada, we dont trade the same things. Maybe Canada have better trade negotiators that the UK, maybe the EU like Canada better, Maybe the UKs negotiators are useless, take your pick. But don’t worry, a no deal is a good outcome ??maybe th eu like Canada better ffs lol Maybe they trust and respect their government more than they do ours? Who knows? The fact is we won’t be getting a Canada deal, get over it, move on and embrace a glorious no deal Brexit, after all , it is what you voted for Or maybe they just cant stand losing control. I wouldnt knock our negotiators we have already established that you would give the eu control over our parliament for ever. " Then it’s a no deal . Our negotiators can’t be as good as Canada’s or Japans though | |||
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"A Canada style deal was originally offered on the list of possibles by Mr Barnier but the EU then changed there minds. They are entitled to, Yes they are entitled too change there minds, and so are we, works both ways after all , but you said a canada style deal was never offered which in fact it was. It was offered early on in 2017 and removed at the beginning of this year." Of course, then let’s have a no deal, you will be happy with that outcome? | |||
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"I don’t think the drench have ever respected the U.K. do you ? amd your jumping the gun again sit back there still negotiating you’ve predicted a deal all along now yr saying it’s a no deal you know something we don’t bud ? I know one thing, I never predicted a Canada deal. I thought a deal would be more likely when Biden won the US election, maybe there will be a last minute deal, but I keep hearing a no deal is a good outcome ? So does it matter if we get a deal or not? " Ask the eu they are the ones with a £93 million trade surplus or you could ask the french fishermen if they would like a quota of fish or none. | |||
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"I don’t think the drench have ever respected the U.K. do you ? amd your jumping the gun again sit back there still negotiating you’ve predicted a deal all along now yr saying it’s a no deal you know something we don’t bud ? I know one thing, I never predicted a Canada deal. I thought a deal would be more likely when Biden won the US election, maybe there will be a last minute deal, but I keep hearing a no deal is a good outcome ? So does it matter if we get a deal or not? Ask the eu they are the ones with a £93 million trade surplus or you could ask the french fishermen if they would like a quota of fish or none." I am asking a leave voter, is a no deal Brexit a good outcome ? | |||
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"A Canada style deal was originally offered on the list of possibles by Mr Barnier but the EU then changed there minds. They are entitled to, Yes they are entitled too change there minds, and so are we, works both ways after all , but you said a canada style deal was never offered which in fact it was. It was offered early on in 2017 and removed at the beginning of this year. Of course, then let’s have a no deal, you will be happy with that outcome? " Happy, no not particularly but then I don't believe the UK should just roll over and sign us up to something that's not good for the UK, so if its not possible to find some common ground at this time then I guess no deal is what it will have to be. I personally think even if its a no deal from January that in time a trade deal of some description will eventually happen when some of the acrimony has subsided. | |||
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"I don’t think the drench have ever respected the U.K. do you ? amd your jumping the gun again sit back there still negotiating you’ve predicted a deal all along now yr saying it’s a no deal you know something we don’t bud ? I know one thing, I never predicted a Canada deal. I thought a deal would be more likely when Biden won the US election, maybe there will be a last minute deal, but I keep hearing a no deal is a good outcome ? So does it matter if we get a deal or not? Ask the eu they are the ones with a £93 million trade surplus or you could ask the french fishermen if they would like a quota of fish or none. I am asking a leave voter, is a no deal Brexit a good outcome ? " As i said we can get to that when you finishing explaining yourself you keep trying to go off track,what has proximity got to do with it and who are we closer to than the eu is who we can compete against them with? | |||
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"I don’t think the drench have ever respected the U.K. do you ? amd your jumping the gun again sit back there still negotiating you’ve predicted a deal all along now yr saying it’s a no deal you know something we don’t bud ? I know one thing, I never predicted a Canada deal. I thought a deal would be more likely when Biden won the US election, maybe there will be a last minute deal, but I keep hearing a no deal is a good outcome ? So does it matter if we get a deal or not? Ask the eu they are the ones with a £93 million trade surplus or you could ask the french fishermen if they would like a quota of fish or none. I am asking a leave voter, is a no deal Brexit a good outcome ? As i said we can get to that when you finishing explaining yourself you keep trying to go off track,what has proximity got to do with it and who are we closer to than the eu is who we can compete against them with?" Ok, proximity has nothing to do with anything, I made it up for a laugh . Is a no deal a good outcome ? | |||
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"A Canada style deal was originally offered on the list of possibles by Mr Barnier but the EU then changed there minds. They are entitled to, Yes they are entitled too change there minds, and so are we, works both ways after all , but you said a canada style deal was never offered which in fact it was. It was offered early on in 2017 and removed at the beginning of this year. Of course, then let’s have a no deal, you will be happy with that outcome? Happy, no not particularly but then I don't believe the UK should just roll over and sign us up to something that's not good for the UK, so if its not possible to find some common ground at this time then I guess no deal is what it will have to be. I personally think even if its a no deal from January that in time a trade deal of some description will eventually happen when some of the acrimony has subsided." Possibly, would it be fair to say that what is happening now was predicted by many people who voted remain and called ‘project fear’ by some who campaigned to leave | |||
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"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal. The EU should shoud have the upper hand it's Boris and his bunch of moron cabinet little Englanders. Boris can't have his cake and eat it. " Yes eu should have the upper hand as well | |||
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"I don’t think the drench have ever respected the U.K. do you ? amd your jumping the gun again sit back there still negotiating you’ve predicted a deal all along now yr saying it’s a no deal you know something we don’t bud ? I know one thing, I never predicted a Canada deal. I thought a deal would be more likely when Biden won the US election, maybe there will be a last minute deal, but I keep hearing a no deal is a good outcome ? So does it matter if we get a deal or not? Ask the eu they are the ones with a £93 million trade surplus or you could ask the french fishermen if they would like a quota of fish or none. I am asking a leave voter, is a no deal Brexit a good outcome ? As i said we can get to that when you finishing explaining yourself you keep trying to go off track,what has proximity got to do with it and who are we closer to than the eu is who we can compete against them with? Ok, proximity has nothing to do with anything, I made it up for a laugh . Is a no deal a good outcome ? " It depends on the deal cant answer that at the moment but if its what the eu are offering at the moment control over uk powers and 10 years of continued recent fishing rights quotas i would say no deal. | |||
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"I don’t think the drench have ever respected the U.K. do you ? amd your jumping the gun again sit back there still negotiating you’ve predicted a deal all along now yr saying it’s a no deal you know something we don’t bud ? I know one thing, I never predicted a Canada deal. I thought a deal would be more likely when Biden won the US election, maybe there will be a last minute deal, but I keep hearing a no deal is a good outcome ? So does it matter if we get a deal or not? Ask the eu they are the ones with a £93 million trade surplus or you could ask the french fishermen if they would like a quota of fish or none. I am asking a leave voter, is a no deal Brexit a good outcome ? As i said we can get to that when you finishing explaining yourself you keep trying to go off track,what has proximity got to do with it and who are we closer to than the eu is who we can compete against them with? Ok, proximity has nothing to do with anything, I made it up for a laugh . Is a no deal a good outcome ? " Glad we are back on track so what is the real reason then? | |||
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"A Canada style deal was originally offered on the list of possibles by Mr Barnier but the EU then changed there minds. They are entitled to, Yes they are entitled too change there minds, and so are we, works both ways after all , but you said a canada style deal was never offered which in fact it was. It was offered early on in 2017 and removed at the beginning of this year. Of course, then let’s have a no deal, you will be happy with that outcome? Happy, no not particularly but then I don't believe the UK should just roll over and sign us up to something that's not good for the UK, so if its not possible to find some common ground at this time then I guess no deal is what it will have to be. I personally think even if its a no deal from January that in time a trade deal of some description will eventually happen when some of the acrimony has subsided. Possibly, would it be fair to say that what is happening now was predicted by many people who voted remain and called ‘project fear’ by some who campaigned to leave " Can't really answer that mate, I didnt really pay any attention to all that bollocks from both sides, I knew which way I would vote as I explained to you before, maastricht treaty and all that remember, I did my own research into the EU and what it is and stands for and its likely future position and concluded my choice from solid information and not sound bites by one side or the other. What was more of a disappointment for me was that the party who I had pretty much always voted for decided to back track on there 2017 manifesto promise to uphold the referendum but I guess thats another story. | |||
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"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal. The EU should shoud have the upper hand it's Boris and his bunch of moron cabinet little Englanders. Boris can't have his cake and eat it. What is this cake and eat it wanting to be able to make your own rules for your own country? If we want to make our own rules then we shoulnt entitled to any benefits.beimg in the eu has. True thats why we left, can you tell me what benefits the uk is asking for ? What amazes me is that the EU haven’t buckled and given the UK everything they asked for , ‘we hold all the cards’ ‘easiest deal in history ‘ etc etc i dont see the uk asking for anything its the eu asking the impossible. Personally I thought the UK was actually asking for a free trade agreement lol yes but can you tell me any other country that has a free trade agreement and has to accept them making their rules and access to their fishing rights.Just one country will do who,s govenment cant make its own rules. " You can't really compare a unique situation that the UK is in against other countries with totally different relationship dynamics. | |||
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"I don’t think the drench have ever respected the U.K. do you ? amd your jumping the gun again sit back there still negotiating you’ve predicted a deal all along now yr saying it’s a no deal you know something we don’t bud ? I know one thing, I never predicted a Canada deal. I thought a deal would be more likely when Biden won the US election, maybe there will be a last minute deal, but I keep hearing a no deal is a good outcome ? So does it matter if we get a deal or not? Ask the eu they are the ones with a £93 million trade surplus or you could ask the french fishermen if they would like a quota of fish or none. I am asking a leave voter, is a no deal Brexit a good outcome ? As i said we can get to that when you finishing explaining yourself you keep trying to go off track,what has proximity got to do with it and who are we closer to than the eu is who we can compete against them with? Ok, proximity has nothing to do with anything, I made it up for a laugh . Is a no deal a good outcome ? Glad we are back on track so what is the real reason then?" Omg , I have answered this , they don’t trust or rate our government and their pathetic negotiation skills, they think Boris is a lying clown and Gove is a weasel , | |||
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"See that Boris and his clowns will drop the clause they decided to put from the internal market bill now. Looks like Boris and his clowns are getting cold feet. Hope the EU make him sweat. " But but but that clause was apparently perfectly legal and was there as a safeguard, what a farce | |||
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"See that Boris and his clowns will drop the clause they decided to put from the internal market bill now. Looks like Boris and his clowns are getting cold feet. Hope the EU make him sweat. " There must be a deal then it was only insurance against a no deal. | |||
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"I don’t think the drench have ever respected the U.K. do you ? amd your jumping the gun again sit back there still negotiating you’ve predicted a deal all along now yr saying it’s a no deal you know something we don’t bud ? I know one thing, I never predicted a Canada deal. I thought a deal would be more likely when Biden won the US election, maybe there will be a last minute deal, but I keep hearing a no deal is a good outcome ? So does it matter if we get a deal or not? Ask the eu they are the ones with a £93 million trade surplus or you could ask the french fishermen if they would like a quota of fish or none. I am asking a leave voter, is a no deal Brexit a good outcome ? As i said we can get to that when you finishing explaining yourself you keep trying to go off track,what has proximity got to do with it and who are we closer to than the eu is who we can compete against them with? Ok, proximity has nothing to do with anything, I made it up for a laugh . Is a no deal a good outcome ? Glad we are back on track so what is the real reason then? Omg , I have answered this , they don’t trust or rate our government and their pathetic negotiation skills, they think Boris is a lying clown and Gove is a weasel , " Do you really believe that you are even more naïve than i took you for. | |||
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"I don’t think the drench have ever respected the U.K. do you ? amd your jumping the gun again sit back there still negotiating you’ve predicted a deal all along now yr saying it’s a no deal you know something we don’t bud ? I know one thing, I never predicted a Canada deal. I thought a deal would be more likely when Biden won the US election, maybe there will be a last minute deal, but I keep hearing a no deal is a good outcome ? So does it matter if we get a deal or not? Ask the eu they are the ones with a £93 million trade surplus or you could ask the french fishermen if they would like a quota of fish or none. I am asking a leave voter, is a no deal Brexit a good outcome ? As i said we can get to that when you finishing explaining yourself you keep trying to go off track,what has proximity got to do with it and who are we closer to than the eu is who we can compete against them with? Ok, proximity has nothing to do with anything, I made it up for a laugh . Is a no deal a good outcome ? Glad we are back on track so what is the real reason then? Omg , I have answered this , they don’t trust or rate our government and their pathetic negotiation skills, they think Boris is a lying clown and Gove is a weasel , Do you really believe that you are even more naïve than i took you for. " Yeah, I believe it, unless you have a reason? Btw, is a no deal a good outcome ? | |||
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"I don’t think the drench have ever respected the U.K. do you ? amd your jumping the gun again sit back there still negotiating you’ve predicted a deal all along now yr saying it’s a no deal you know something we don’t bud ? I know one thing, I never predicted a Canada deal. I thought a deal would be more likely when Biden won the US election, maybe there will be a last minute deal, but I keep hearing a no deal is a good outcome ? So does it matter if we get a deal or not? Ask the eu they are the ones with a £93 million trade surplus or you could ask the french fishermen if they would like a quota of fish or none. I am asking a leave voter, is a no deal Brexit a good outcome ? As i said we can get to that when you finishing explaining yourself you keep trying to go off track,what has proximity got to do with it and who are we closer to than the eu is who we can compete against them with? Ok, proximity has nothing to do with anything, I made it up for a laugh . Is a no deal a good outcome ? Glad we are back on track so what is the real reason then? Omg , I have answered this , they don’t trust or rate our government and their pathetic negotiation skills, they think Boris is a lying clown and Gove is a weasel , Do you really believe that you are even more naïve than i took you for. Yeah, I believe it, unless you have a reason? Btw, is a no deal a good outcome ? " Its like talking to a kid. i answered you in an earlier post scroll up. | |||
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"ok so your willing to sell out future generations rights for an eu trade deal fair enough im sure a lot of people would disagree but at least i know where you stand now." Forgive me if I'm wrong but going by your posts I'd say you're a leaver and if you are I do find it astonishing you could even talk about selling out future generations rights regarding a trade deal when Brexit has stripped the entire UK's current and future population and generations of their rights while also imposing harsh economic sanctions on our economy. | |||
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"ok so your willing to sell out future generations rights for an eu trade deal fair enough im sure a lot of people would disagree but at least i know where you stand now. Forgive me if I'm wrong but going by your posts I'd say you're a leaver and if you are I do find it astonishing you could even talk about selling out future generations rights regarding a trade deal when Brexit has stripped the entire UK's current and future population and generations of their rights while also imposing harsh economic sanctions on our economy. " That was the majority voted for and they certainly didnt vote to leave for a government to give away sovereignty to an eu state. | |||
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"I don’t think the drench have ever respected the U.K. do you ? amd your jumping the gun again sit back there still negotiating you’ve predicted a deal all along now yr saying it’s a no deal you know something we don’t bud ? I know one thing, I never predicted a Canada deal. I thought a deal would be more likely when Biden won the US election, maybe there will be a last minute deal, but I keep hearing a no deal is a good outcome ? So does it matter if we get a deal or not? Ask the eu they are the ones with a £93 million trade surplus or you could ask the french fishermen if they would like a quota of fish or none. I am asking a leave voter, is a no deal Brexit a good outcome ? As i said we can get to that when you finishing explaining yourself you keep trying to go off track,what has proximity got to do with it and who are we closer to than the eu is who we can compete against them with? Ok, proximity has nothing to do with anything, I made it up for a laugh . Is a no deal a good outcome ? Glad we are back on track so what is the real reason then? Omg , I have answered this , they don’t trust or rate our government and their pathetic negotiation skills, they think Boris is a lying clown and Gove is a weasel , Do you really believe that you are even more naïve than i took you for. Yeah, I believe it, unless you have a reason? Btw, is a no deal a good outcome ? Its like talking to a kid. i answered you in an earlier post scroll up." Sorry, I missed it. | |||
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"ok so your willing to sell out future generations rights for an eu trade deal fair enough im sure a lot of people would disagree but at least i know where you stand now. Forgive me if I'm wrong but going by your posts I'd say you're a leaver and if you are I do find it astonishing you could even talk about selling out future generations rights regarding a trade deal when Brexit has stripped the entire UK's current and future population and generations of their rights while also imposing harsh economic sanctions on our economy. That was the majority voted for and they certainly didnt vote to leave for a government to give away sovereignty to an eu state." I don’t remember seeing that written on the ballot paper | |||
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"ok so your willing to sell out future generations rights for an eu trade deal fair enough im sure a lot of people would disagree but at least i know where you stand now. Forgive me if I'm wrong but going by your posts I'd say you're a leaver and if you are I do find it astonishing you could even talk about selling out future generations rights regarding a trade deal when Brexit has stripped the entire UK's current and future population and generations of their rights while also imposing harsh economic sanctions on our economy. That was the majority voted for and they certainly didnt vote to leave for a government to give away sovereignty to an eu state." No they didn't but a lot voted on independence as they viewed it the reality was the ideal they were sold wasn't achievable. | |||
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"ok so your willing to sell out future generations rights for an eu trade deal fair enough im sure a lot of people would disagree but at least i know where you stand now. Forgive me if I'm wrong but going by your posts I'd say you're a leaver and if you are I do find it astonishing you could even talk about selling out future generations rights regarding a trade deal when Brexit has stripped the entire UK's current and future population and generations of their rights while also imposing harsh economic sanctions on our economy. That was the majority voted for and they certainly didnt vote to leave for a government to give away sovereignty to an eu state. No they didn't but a lot voted on independence as they viewed it the reality was the ideal they were sold wasn't achievable. " Well said and thought the Tory party were supposed to be the party for business. They don't need all the red tape the red tape that will be involved not just for business but for travel as well. Brexit is just a farce. | |||
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"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal. The EU should shoud have the upper hand it's Boris and his bunch of moron cabinet little Englanders. Boris can't have his cake and eat it. " Yes eu should have the upper hand as well | |||
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"To think that the EU has the upper hand is a joke " Keep telling the jokes. At present we're not helping ourselves. Our businesses, as well as partners around Europe, need time to prepare and yet with just days to go, the full information on trading is unavailable. We dragged out talks on an industry worth less than lawn mowers, holding thousands of businesses up. Anyone could be forgiven for thinking we're really stupid. | |||
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"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal." The EU have the biggest issue from where I stand. Too many players all wanting their slice. They have to negotiate amongst themselves and with the UK. I think too many think the EU holds the cards whereas I have less confidence in that idea. We no longer manufacturer mucch so import are a big prize for whoever seals the deal, and the EU will need to fight harder than you may be led to think for those. There are plenty of other options and the EU knows that. This brexit is the biggest crack the EU has had to face and no plasters will patch it. Greece was the awakening and there will be a few more or some big changes happen within the EU after Brexit. A few more smaller players are trying to join, but as smaller players it's benefits are attractive to them but this only increases the burden on the big players, what's going out to its members becomes more than what's feeding in. | |||
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"Well that all depends on the eu if they finally get in their head the uk will be an independent nation and accept nothing less then i think there is a chance if not it will be no deal. The EU have the biggest issue from where I stand. Too many players all wanting their slice. They have to negotiate amongst themselves and with the UK. I think too many think the EU holds the cards whereas I have less confidence in that idea. We no longer manufacturer mucch so import are a big prize for whoever seals the deal, and the EU will need to fight harder than you may be led to think for those. There are plenty of other options and the EU knows that. This brexit is the biggest crack the EU has had to face and no plasters will patch it. Greece was the awakening and there will be a few more or some big changes happen within the EU after Brexit. A few more smaller players are trying to join, but as smaller players it's benefits are attractive to them but this only increases the burden on the big players, what's going out to its members becomes more than what's feeding in." The EU needs to change and they will change. Once this Brexit shit show is over the UK will also have to change drastically otherwise we are fucked | |||
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"I love the way remainers all seem to know how or why leavers voted? It astounds me that they then know how it'll all turn out. I'm confused as to how Brexit apparently has crippled the country and economy. Or will they ignore the fact that covid has done that everywhere. Technically then it's going to be even far more difficult to get our economy up and running as a result. Let's watch this space. I remember remainers saying all the banks will move when leavers reminded then where the world banks were banks. Some of us are still waiting for that prophacy of mass exodus. Then it was, well they have moved millions/billions to the EU, Well duh banks are not risk takers so they are always moving money about, it's normal banking activity so no surprise, oh and they might move it back again. Then they forecasted the Sterling would drop well below the Euro. I could go on... All I'll say is it's happened, it's being negotiated and so far I've not seen anything that has surprised me or didn't think would happen to consider my vote was misplaced. " And the leave campaign was 100% honest. | |||
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"I love the way remainers all seem to know how or why leavers voted? It astounds me that they then know how it'll all turn out. I'm confused as to how Brexit apparently has crippled the country and economy. Or will they ignore the fact that covid has done that everywhere. Technically then it's going to be even far more difficult to get our economy up and running as a result. Let's watch this space. I remember remainers saying all the banks will move when leavers reminded then where the world banks were banks. Some of us are still waiting for that prophacy of mass exodus. Then it was, well they have moved millions/billions to the EU, Well duh banks are not risk takers so they are always moving money about, it's normal banking activity so no surprise, oh and they might move it back again. Then they forecasted the Sterling would drop well below the Euro. I could go on... All I'll say is it's happened, it's being negotiated and so far I've not seen anything that has surprised me or didn't think would happen to consider my vote was misplaced. " When do you think we will start to see the benefits of Brexit? | |||
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"I love the way remainers all seem to know how or why leavers voted? It astounds me that they then know how it'll all turn out. I'm confused as to how Brexit apparently has crippled the country and economy. Or will they ignore the fact that covid has done that everywhere. Technically then it's going to be even far more difficult to get our economy up and running as a result. Let's watch this space. I remember remainers saying all the banks will move when leavers reminded then where the world banks were banks. Some of us are still waiting for that prophacy of mass exodus. Then it was, well they have moved millions/billions to the EU, Well duh banks are not risk takers so they are always moving money about, it's normal banking activity so no surprise, oh and they might move it back again. Then they forecasted the Sterling would drop well below the Euro. I could go on... All I'll say is it's happened, it's being negotiated and so far I've not seen anything that has surprised me or didn't think would happen to consider my vote was misplaced. And the leave campaign was 100% honest." Nope, but neither was the remain camp. I know you will argue that the leave told more lies than remain, but to me they all lied, including the main parties, and to me a lie is a lie. As I said earlier i had always voted Labour until they back tracked on there 2017 manifesto promise, just like many others on here. Just goes to prove the old saying that you can't trust a politician really. | |||
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"I love the way remainers all seem to know how or why leavers voted? It astounds me that they then know how it'll all turn out. I'm confused as to how Brexit apparently has crippled the country and economy. Or will they ignore the fact that covid has done that everywhere. Technically then it's going to be even far more difficult to get our economy up and running as a result. Let's watch this space. I remember remainers saying all the banks will move when leavers reminded then where the world banks were banks. Some of us are still waiting for that prophacy of mass exodus. Then it was, well they have moved millions/billions to the EU, Well duh banks are not risk takers so they are always moving money about, it's normal banking activity so no surprise, oh and they might move it back again. Then they forecasted the Sterling would drop well below the Euro. I could go on... All I'll say is it's happened, it's being negotiated and so far I've not seen anything that has surprised me or didn't think would happen to consider my vote was misplaced. And the leave campaign was 100% honest. Nope, but neither was the remain camp. I know you will argue that the leave told more lies than remain, but to me they all lied, including the main parties, and to me a lie is a lie. As I said earlier i had always voted Labour until they back tracked on there 2017 manifesto promise, just like many others on here. Just goes to prove the old saying that you can't trust a politician really." The remain campaign predicted that leaving would be economically disadvantageous. Even the chancellor at the time said jobs and businesses will be hit. The leave campaign was based upon lie upon lie. | |||
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"I love the way remainers all seem to know how or why leavers voted? It astounds me that they then know how it'll all turn out. I'm confused as to how Brexit apparently has crippled the country and economy. Or will they ignore the fact that covid has done that everywhere. Technically then it's going to be even far more difficult to get our economy up and running as a result. Let's watch this space. I remember remainers saying all the banks will move when leavers reminded then where the world banks were banks. Some of us are still waiting for that prophacy of mass exodus. Then it was, well they have moved millions/billions to the EU, Well duh banks are not risk takers so they are always moving money about, it's normal banking activity so no surprise, oh and they might move it back again. Then they forecasted the Sterling would drop well below the Euro. I could go on... All I'll say is it's happened, it's being negotiated and so far I've not seen anything that has surprised me or didn't think would happen to consider my vote was misplaced. And the leave campaign was 100% honest. Nope, but neither was the remain camp. I know you will argue that the leave told more lies than remain, but to me they all lied, including the main parties, and to me a lie is a lie. As I said earlier i had always voted Labour until they back tracked on there 2017 manifesto promise, just like many others on here. Just goes to prove the old saying that you can't trust a politician really." ain’t that the truth bud | |||
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"I love the way remainers all seem to know how or why leavers voted? It astounds me that they then know how it'll all turn out. I'm confused as to how Brexit apparently has crippled the country and economy. Or will they ignore the fact that covid has done that everywhere. Technically then it's going to be even far more difficult to get our economy up and running as a result. Let's watch this space. I remember remainers saying all the banks will move when leavers reminded then where the world banks were banks. Some of us are still waiting for that prophacy of mass exodus. Then it was, well they have moved millions/billions to the EU, Well duh banks are not risk takers so they are always moving money about, it's normal banking activity so no surprise, oh and they might move it back again. Then they forecasted the Sterling would drop well below the Euro. I could go on... All I'll say is it's happened, it's being negotiated and so far I've not seen anything that has surprised me or didn't think would happen to consider my vote was misplaced. And the leave campaign was 100% honest. Nope, but neither was the remain camp. I know you will argue that the leave told more lies than remain, but to me they all lied, including the main parties, and to me a lie is a lie. As I said earlier i had always voted Labour until they back tracked on there 2017 manifesto promise, just like many others on here. Just goes to prove the old saying that you can't trust a politician really. The remain campaign predicted that leaving would be economically disadvantageous. Even the chancellor at the time said jobs and businesses will be hit. The leave campaign was based upon lie upon lie." Remain predicted and said many things just like leave did, I guess we will all see in time what actually comes true and what was just bollocks.You have your opinion of the campaign just as I have mine, they are just different. You were obviously pleased when labour changed there stance after the 2017 election and started to push to stay in but to me I felt like my party was no longer listening to me and many others like me that voted for them. | |||
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"I love the way remainers all seem to know how or why leavers voted? It astounds me that they then know how it'll all turn out. I'm confused as to how Brexit apparently has crippled the country and economy. Or will they ignore the fact that covid has done that everywhere. Technically then it's going to be even far more difficult to get our economy up and running as a result. Let's watch this space. I remember remainers saying all the banks will move when leavers reminded then where the world banks were banks. Some of us are still waiting for that prophacy of mass exodus. Then it was, well they have moved millions/billions to the EU, Well duh banks are not risk takers so they are always moving money about, it's normal banking activity so no surprise, oh and they might move it back again. Then they forecasted the Sterling would drop well below the Euro. I could go on... All I'll say is it's happened, it's being negotiated and so far I've not seen anything that has surprised me or didn't think would happen to consider my vote was misplaced. And the leave campaign was 100% honest. Nope, but neither was the remain camp. I know you will argue that the leave told more lies than remain, but to me they all lied, including the main parties, and to me a lie is a lie. As I said earlier i had always voted Labour until they back tracked on there 2017 manifesto promise, just like many others on here. Just goes to prove the old saying that you can't trust a politician really. The remain campaign predicted that leaving would be economically disadvantageous. Even the chancellor at the time said jobs and businesses will be hit. The leave campaign was based upon lie upon lie. Remain predicted and said many things just like leave did, I guess we will all see in time what actually comes true and what was just bollocks.You have your opinion of the campaign just as I have mine, they are just different. You were obviously pleased when labour changed there stance after the 2017 election and started to push to stay in but to me I felt like my party was no longer listening to me and many others like me that voted for them." and it ultimately cost them the GE | |||
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"I love the way remainers all seem to know how or why leavers voted? It astounds me that they then know how it'll all turn out. I'm confused as to how Brexit apparently has crippled the country and economy. Or will they ignore the fact that covid has done that everywhere. Technically then it's going to be even far more difficult to get our economy up and running as a result. Let's watch this space. I remember remainers saying all the banks will move when leavers reminded then where the world banks were banks. Some of us are still waiting for that prophacy of mass exodus. Then it was, well they have moved millions/billions to the EU, Well duh banks are not risk takers so they are always moving money about, it's normal banking activity so no surprise, oh and they might move it back again. Then they forecasted the Sterling would drop well below the Euro. I could go on... All I'll say is it's happened, it's being negotiated and so far I've not seen anything that has surprised me or didn't think would happen to consider my vote was misplaced. And the leave campaign was 100% honest. Nope, but neither was the remain camp. I know you will argue that the leave told more lies than remain, but to me they all lied, including the main parties, and to me a lie is a lie. As I said earlier i had always voted Labour until they back tracked on there 2017 manifesto promise, just like many others on here. Just goes to prove the old saying that you can't trust a politician really. The remain campaign predicted that leaving would be economically disadvantageous. Even the chancellor at the time said jobs and businesses will be hit. The leave campaign was based upon lie upon lie. Remain predicted and said many things just like leave did, I guess we will all see in time what actually comes true and what was just bollocks.You have your opinion of the campaign just as I have mine, they are just different. You were obviously pleased when labour changed there stance after the 2017 election and started to push to stay in but to me I felt like my party was no longer listening to me and many others like me that voted for them." I think labour were split on the issue as were most of the country. | |||
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"I love the way remainers all seem to know how or why leavers voted? It astounds me that they then know how it'll all turn out. I'm confused as to how Brexit apparently has crippled the country and economy. Or will they ignore the fact that covid has done that everywhere. Technically then it's going to be even far more difficult to get our economy up and running as a result. Let's watch this space. I remember remainers saying all the banks will move when leavers reminded then where the world banks were banks. Some of us are still waiting for that prophacy of mass exodus. Then it was, well they have moved millions/billions to the EU, Well duh banks are not risk takers so they are always moving money about, it's normal banking activity so no surprise, oh and they might move it back again. Then they forecasted the Sterling would drop well below the Euro. I could go on... All I'll say is it's happened, it's being negotiated and so far I've not seen anything that has surprised me or didn't think would happen to consider my vote was misplaced. And the leave campaign was 100% honest. Nope, but neither was the remain camp. I know you will argue that the leave told more lies than remain, but to me they all lied, including the main parties, and to me a lie is a lie. As I said earlier i had always voted Labour until they back tracked on there 2017 manifesto promise, just like many others on here. Just goes to prove the old saying that you can't trust a politician really. The remain campaign predicted that leaving would be economically disadvantageous. Even the chancellor at the time said jobs and businesses will be hit. The leave campaign was based upon lie upon lie. Remain predicted and said many things just like leave did, I guess we will all see in time what actually comes true and what was just bollocks.You have your opinion of the campaign just as I have mine, they are just different. You were obviously pleased when labour changed there stance after the 2017 election and started to push to stay in but to me I felt like my party was no longer listening to me and many others like me that voted for them." And there is a difference between predicting something and just outright lying on the side of a fuck off bus? | |||
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"I love the way remainers all seem to know how or why leavers voted? It astounds me that they then know how it'll all turn out. I'm confused as to how Brexit apparently has crippled the country and economy. Or will they ignore the fact that covid has done that everywhere. Technically then it's going to be even far more difficult to get our economy up and running as a result. Let's watch this space. I remember remainers saying all the banks will move when leavers reminded then where the world banks were banks. Some of us are still waiting for that prophacy of mass exodus. Then it was, well they have moved millions/billions to the EU, Well duh banks are not risk takers so they are always moving money about, it's normal banking activity so no surprise, oh and they might move it back again. Then they forecasted the Sterling would drop well below the Euro. I could go on... All I'll say is it's happened, it's being negotiated and so far I've not seen anything that has surprised me or didn't think would happen to consider my vote was misplaced. And the leave campaign was 100% honest. Nope, but neither was the remain camp. I know you will argue that the leave told more lies than remain, but to me they all lied, including the main parties, and to me a lie is a lie. As I said earlier i had always voted Labour until they back tracked on there 2017 manifesto promise, just like many others on here. Just goes to prove the old saying that you can't trust a politician really. The remain campaign predicted that leaving would be economically disadvantageous. Even the chancellor at the time said jobs and businesses will be hit. The leave campaign was based upon lie upon lie. Remain predicted and said many things just like leave did, I guess we will all see in time what actually comes true and what was just bollocks.You have your opinion of the campaign just as I have mine, they are just different. You were obviously pleased when labour changed there stance after the 2017 election and started to push to stay in but to me I felt like my party was no longer listening to me and many others like me that voted for them. And there is a difference between predicting something and just outright lying on the side of a fuck off bus?" omfg trust you to mention the bus pmsl | |||
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"I love the way remainers all seem to know how or why leavers voted? It astounds me that they then know how it'll all turn out. I'm confused as to how Brexit apparently has crippled the country and economy. Or will they ignore the fact that covid has done that everywhere. Technically then it's going to be even far more difficult to get our economy up and running as a result. Let's watch this space. I remember remainers saying all the banks will move when leavers reminded then where the world banks were banks. Some of us are still waiting for that prophacy of mass exodus. Then it was, well they have moved millions/billions to the EU, Well duh banks are not risk takers so they are always moving money about, it's normal banking activity so no surprise, oh and they might move it back again. Then they forecasted the Sterling would drop well below the Euro. I could go on... All I'll say is it's happened, it's being negotiated and so far I've not seen anything that has surprised me or didn't think would happen to consider my vote was misplaced. And the leave campaign was 100% honest. Nope, but neither was the remain camp. I know you will argue that the leave told more lies than remain, but to me they all lied, including the main parties, and to me a lie is a lie. As I said earlier i had always voted Labour until they back tracked on there 2017 manifesto promise, just like many others on here. Just goes to prove the old saying that you can't trust a politician really. The remain campaign predicted that leaving would be economically disadvantageous. Even the chancellor at the time said jobs and businesses will be hit. The leave campaign was based upon lie upon lie. Remain predicted and said many things just like leave did, I guess we will all see in time what actually comes true and what was just bollocks.You have your opinion of the campaign just as I have mine, they are just different. You were obviously pleased when labour changed there stance after the 2017 election and started to push to stay in but to me I felt like my party was no longer listening to me and many others like me that voted for them. And there is a difference between predicting something and just outright lying on the side of a fuck off bus?" Yeah there is a difference, but not all the remain predictions have come true have they, some are still to come to pass but some have already fell flat on there face so therefore they could also be classed as a lie depending on your piont of view and bias of course. We aint going to agree on this mate, like I already said you have your take on things and I have mine. I get Labour were split but they should not have said in there manifesto they would honour the result if they were not going to do so. Just more lies, which makes them no better than anyone else, a lie is a lie no matter how you dress it up. | |||
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"I love the way remainers all seem to know how or why leavers voted? It astounds me that they then know how it'll all turn out. I'm confused as to how Brexit apparently has crippled the country and economy. Or will they ignore the fact that covid has done that everywhere. Technically then it's going to be even far more difficult to get our economy up and running as a result. Let's watch this space. I remember remainers saying all the banks will move when leavers reminded then where the world banks were banks. Some of us are still waiting for that prophacy of mass exodus. Then it was, well they have moved millions/billions to the EU, Well duh banks are not risk takers so they are always moving money about, it's normal banking activity so no surprise, oh and they might move it back again. Then they forecasted the Sterling would drop well below the Euro. I could go on... All I'll say is it's happened, it's being negotiated and so far I've not seen anything that has surprised me or didn't think would happen to consider my vote was misplaced. And the leave campaign was 100% honest. Nope, but neither was the remain camp. I know you will argue that the leave told more lies than remain, but to me they all lied, including the main parties, and to me a lie is a lie. As I said earlier i had always voted Labour until they back tracked on there 2017 manifesto promise, just like many others on here. Just goes to prove the old saying that you can't trust a politician really. The remain campaign predicted that leaving would be economically disadvantageous. Even the chancellor at the time said jobs and businesses will be hit. The leave campaign was based upon lie upon lie. Remain predicted and said many things just like leave did, I guess we will all see in time what actually comes true and what was just bollocks.You have your opinion of the campaign just as I have mine, they are just different. You were obviously pleased when labour changed there stance after the 2017 election and started to push to stay in but to me I felt like my party was no longer listening to me and many others like me that voted for them. And there is a difference between predicting something and just outright lying on the side of a fuck off bus?omfg trust you to mention the bus pmsl " Makes me laugh too, that bus will go down in history lol, I really find it hard to believe people believed half the bollocks that was being spouted, but if they did its there own fault really, its so easy to research and find the truth nowadays anyone who didn't enlighten themselves on the whole situation has only got themselves to blame if they are now not happy. | |||
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"I love the way remainers all seem to know how or why leavers voted? It astounds me that they then know how it'll all turn out. I'm confused as to how Brexit apparently has crippled the country and economy. Or will they ignore the fact that covid has done that everywhere. Technically then it's going to be even far more difficult to get our economy up and running as a result. Let's watch this space. I remember remainers saying all the banks will move when leavers reminded then where the world banks were banks. Some of us are still waiting for that prophacy of mass exodus. Then it was, well they have moved millions/billions to the EU, Well duh banks are not risk takers so they are always moving money about, it's normal banking activity so no surprise, oh and they might move it back again. Then they forecasted the Sterling would drop well below the Euro. I could go on... All I'll say is it's happened, it's being negotiated and so far I've not seen anything that has surprised me or didn't think would happen to consider my vote was misplaced. And the leave campaign was 100% honest. Nope, but neither was the remain camp. I know you will argue that the leave told more lies than remain, but to me they all lied, including the main parties, and to me a lie is a lie. As I said earlier i had always voted Labour until they back tracked on there 2017 manifesto promise, just like many others on here. Just goes to prove the old saying that you can't trust a politician really. The remain campaign predicted that leaving would be economically disadvantageous. Even the chancellor at the time said jobs and businesses will be hit. The leave campaign was based upon lie upon lie. Remain predicted and said many things just like leave did, I guess we will all see in time what actually comes true and what was just bollocks.You have your opinion of the campaign just as I have mine, they are just different. You were obviously pleased when labour changed there stance after the 2017 election and started to push to stay in but to me I felt like my party was no longer listening to me and many others like me that voted for them. And there is a difference between predicting something and just outright lying on the side of a fuck off bus?omfg trust you to mention the bus pmsl Makes me laugh too, that bus will go down in history lol, I really find it hard to believe people believed half the bollocks that was being spouted, but if they did its there own fault really, its so easy to research and find the truth nowadays anyone who didn't enlighten themselves on the whole situation has only got themselves to blame if they are now not happy." im wait g for the other one the edge of the cliff it’s relentless I just can’t believe 4yrs as gone by and same shit spouting but to be fair does make me laugh it’s mainly only banter but it can get a bit nasty | |||
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"I love the way remainers all seem to know how or why leavers voted? It astounds me that they then know how it'll all turn out. I'm confused as to how Brexit apparently has crippled the country and economy. Or will they ignore the fact that covid has done that everywhere. Technically then it's going to be even far more difficult to get our economy up and running as a result. Let's watch this space. I remember remainers saying all the banks will move when leavers reminded then where the world banks were banks. Some of us are still waiting for that prophacy of mass exodus. Then it was, well they have moved millions/billions to the EU, Well duh banks are not risk takers so they are always moving money about, it's normal banking activity so no surprise, oh and they might move it back again. Then they forecasted the Sterling would drop well below the Euro. I could go on... All I'll say is it's happened, it's being negotiated and so far I've not seen anything that has surprised me or didn't think would happen to consider my vote was misplaced. And the leave campaign was 100% honest. Nope, but neither was the remain camp. I know you will argue that the leave told more lies than remain, but to me they all lied, including the main parties, and to me a lie is a lie. As I said earlier i had always voted Labour until they back tracked on there 2017 manifesto promise, just like many others on here. Just goes to prove the old saying that you can't trust a politician really. The remain campaign predicted that leaving would be economically disadvantageous. Even the chancellor at the time said jobs and businesses will be hit. The leave campaign was based upon lie upon lie. Remain predicted and said many things just like leave did, I guess we will all see in time what actually comes true and what was just bollocks.You have your opinion of the campaign just as I have mine, they are just different. You were obviously pleased when labour changed there stance after the 2017 election and started to push to stay in but to me I felt like my party was no longer listening to me and many others like me that voted for them. And there is a difference between predicting something and just outright lying on the side of a fuck off bus?omfg trust you to mention the bus pmsl Makes me laugh too, that bus will go down in history lol, I really find it hard to believe people believed half the bollocks that was being spouted, but if they did its there own fault really, its so easy to research and find the truth nowadays anyone who didn't enlighten themselves on the whole situation has only got themselves to blame if they are now not happy." Whilst I partly agree with you..its not a good advert for democracy than politicians can get away with bare faced lies. | |||
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"I cant believe the who lied the most convo is still going on.People had enough info about what would happen when they voted in the last election and it was quiet clear if you wanted to remain you only had to vote liberal.If you wanted to leave vote tory and if you couldnt care one way or the other vote labour.The tories romped it.everyone had around 3 years with enogh info to make their minds up." What did happen to that woman who was leader of the lib dems? | |||
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"I cant believe the who lied the most convo is still going on.People had enough info about what would happen when they voted in the last election and it was quiet clear if you wanted to remain you only had to vote liberal.If you wanted to leave vote tory and if you couldnt care one way or the other vote labour.The tories romped it.everyone had around 3 years with enogh info to make their minds up." So basically a second referendum with even more information and still the same winner | |||
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"I cant believe the who lied the most convo is still going on.People had enough info about what would happen when they voted in the last election and it was quiet clear if you wanted to remain you only had to vote liberal.If you wanted to leave vote tory and if you couldnt care one way or the other vote labour.The tories romped it.everyone had around 3 years with enogh info to make their minds up. What did happen to that woman who was leader of the lib dems? " Lost her seat? shows how popular staying in the eu became. | |||
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"I cant believe the who lied the most convo is still going on.People had enough info about what would happen when they voted in the last election and it was quiet clear if you wanted to remain you only had to vote liberal.If you wanted to leave vote tory and if you couldnt care one way or the other vote labour.The tories romped it.everyone had around 3 years with enogh info to make their minds up." Trying to make Boris a bigger lier than other polititions is fake news and bllshit nobody is interested he won twice get it | |||
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"I cant believe the who lied the most convo is still going on.People had enough info about what would happen when they voted in the last election and it was quiet clear if you wanted to remain you only had to vote liberal.If you wanted to leave vote tory and if you couldnt care one way or the other vote labour.The tories romped it.everyone had around 3 years with enogh info to make their minds up. What did happen to that woman who was leader of the lib dems? Lost her seat? shows how popular staying in the eu became. " Did ever remainer lose their seat? | |||
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"I cant believe the who lied the most convo is still going on.People had enough info about what would happen when they voted in the last election and it was quiet clear if you wanted to remain you only had to vote liberal.If you wanted to leave vote tory and if you couldnt care one way or the other vote labour.The tories romped it.everyone had around 3 years with enogh info to make their minds up. What did happen to that woman who was leader of the lib dems? Lost her seat? shows how popular staying in the eu became. Did ever remainer lose their seat?" Do you not understand people vote for policies not individuals. | |||
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"I cannot see there being a deal the attitude of the EU stinks we must make them pay in the long run. i hope we can have a half deal for now and continue after covid but the nasty French will allways be a problem. As far as I can tell we are asking for very little the EU are a load of shits. " We left the club thinking we can be out the club but still get all the benefits of being in the club - I suspect the EU think it is us who are the load of shits. | |||
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"I cant believe the who lied the most convo is still going on.People had enough info about what would happen when they voted in the last election and it was quiet clear if you wanted to remain you only had to vote liberal.If you wanted to leave vote tory and if you couldnt care one way or the other vote labour.The tories romped it.everyone had around 3 years with enogh info to make their minds up.Trying to make Boris a bigger lier than other polititions is fake news and bllshit nobody is interested he won twice get it" Twice? | |||
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"I cannot see there being a deal the attitude of the EU stinks we must make them pay in the long run. i hope we can have a half deal for now and continue after covid but the nasty French will allways be a problem. As far as I can tell we are asking for very little the EU are a load of shits. We left the club thinking we can be out the club but still get all the benefits of being in the club - I suspect the EU think it is us who are the load of shits. " Who thought that you may have but we all didnt. | |||
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"going back to why we cant have a canada deal. along with proximity, we deal way more with the eu than canada does. so if we start using state aid to subsidise our companies it unfairly outcompetes eu companies. if canada do the same thing it doesnt impact eu companies as much as it is a smaller amount of their trade. if we do it has bigger consequenses. a bit like what happens when china subsidises their steel to undercut everyone else. the eu want 'control of our rules' as you put it to prevent that happening to them. just as we want 'control of their rules' by trying to make them agree to that deal. its how trades work, we change some of our rules on how we trade and they change some of their rules on trading with us. they want to protect their interests just as much as we do ours." Exactly they put tariffs on ,they dont demand to have control over china's rules thats the way it works and always has.The eu could very easily say if you start applying state aid over what we already do there will be tariffs, it very simple to resolve its not about that its all about making it as hard as possible because once we make a success of it others will wonder why they haven't and the political dream will be over. The thing that makes it even crazier is we are and have been one of the countries that apply the least state aid in the eu.As a country we have never believed in massive state aid and the eu know that. tell me an industry in the uk that if we did it would impact on the eu? | |||
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"going back to why we cant have a canada deal. along with proximity, we deal way more with the eu than canada does. so if we start using state aid to subsidise our companies it unfairly outcompetes eu companies. if canada do the same thing it doesnt impact eu companies as much as it is a smaller amount of their trade. if we do it has bigger consequenses. a bit like what happens when china subsidises their steel to undercut everyone else. the eu want 'control of our rules' as you put it to prevent that happening to them. just as we want 'control of their rules' by trying to make them agree to that deal. its how trades work, we change some of our rules on how we trade and they change some of their rules on trading with us. they want to protect their interests just as much as we do ours.Exactly they put tariffs on ,they dont demand to have control over china's rules thats the way it works and always has.The eu could very easily say if you start applying state aid over what we already do there will be tariffs, it very simple to resolve its not about that its all about making it as hard as possible because once we make a success of it others will wonder why they haven't and the political dream will be over. The thing that makes it even crazier is we are and have been one of the countries that apply the least state aid in the eu.As a country we have never believed in massive state aid and the eu know that. tell me an industry in the uk that if we did it would impact on the eu? " The EU don’t trust this government to keep to their word , the Canada deal was never an option, it is time to move on from that fantasy | |||
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"going back to why we cant have a canada deal. along with proximity, we deal way more with the eu than canada does. so if we start using state aid to subsidise our companies it unfairly outcompetes eu companies. if canada do the same thing it doesnt impact eu companies as much as it is a smaller amount of their trade. if we do it has bigger consequenses. a bit like what happens when china subsidises their steel to undercut everyone else. the eu want 'control of our rules' as you put it to prevent that happening to them. just as we want 'control of their rules' by trying to make them agree to that deal. its how trades work, we change some of our rules on how we trade and they change some of their rules on trading with us. they want to protect their interests just as much as we do ours.Exactly they put tariffs on ,they dont demand to have control over china's rules thats the way it works and always has.The eu could very easily say if you start applying state aid over what we already do there will be tariffs, it very simple to resolve its not about that its all about making it as hard as possible because once we make a success of it others will wonder why they haven't and the political dream will be over. The thing that makes it even crazier is we are and have been one of the countries that apply the least state aid in the eu.As a country we have never believed in massive state aid and the eu know that. tell me an industry in the uk that if we did it would impact on the eu? The EU don’t trust this government to keep to their word , the Canada deal was never an option, it is time to move on from that fantasy" you keep stating this why wasnt it or is it just another of your random statements with nothing to back it up? | |||
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"going back to why we cant have a canada deal. along with proximity, we deal way more with the eu than canada does. so if we start using state aid to subsidise our companies it unfairly outcompetes eu companies. if canada do the same thing it doesnt impact eu companies as much as it is a smaller amount of their trade. if we do it has bigger consequenses. a bit like what happens when china subsidises their steel to undercut everyone else. the eu want 'control of our rules' as you put it to prevent that happening to them. just as we want 'control of their rules' by trying to make them agree to that deal. its how trades work, we change some of our rules on how we trade and they change some of their rules on trading with us. they want to protect their interests just as much as we do ours.Exactly they put tariffs on ,they dont demand to have control over china's rules thats the way it works and always has.The eu could very easily say if you start applying state aid over what we already do there will be tariffs, it very simple to resolve its not about that its all about making it as hard as possible because once we make a success of it others will wonder why they haven't and the political dream will be over. The thing that makes it even crazier is we are and have been one of the countries that apply the least state aid in the eu.As a country we have never believed in massive state aid and the eu know that. tell me an industry in the uk that if we did it would impact on the eu? The EU don’t trust this government to keep to their word , the Canada deal was never an option, it is time to move on from that fantasy you keep stating this why wasnt it or is it just another of your random statements with nothing to back it up?" It has been explained to you why it won’t happen, it was never going to happen, the UK is now a trade competitor to the EU not an ally, it’s time to move on and accept this | |||
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"going back to why we cant have a canada deal. along with proximity, we deal way more with the eu than canada does. so if we start using state aid to subsidise our companies it unfairly outcompetes eu companies. if canada do the same thing it doesnt impact eu companies as much as it is a smaller amount of their trade. if we do it has bigger consequenses. a bit like what happens when china subsidises their steel to undercut everyone else. the eu want 'control of our rules' as you put it to prevent that happening to them. just as we want 'control of their rules' by trying to make them agree to that deal. its how trades work, we change some of our rules on how we trade and they change some of their rules on trading with us. they want to protect their interests just as much as we do ours.Exactly they put tariffs on ,they dont demand to have control over china's rules thats the way it works and always has.The eu could very easily say if you start applying state aid over what we already do there will be tariffs, it very simple to resolve its not about that its all about making it as hard as possible because once we make a success of it others will wonder why they haven't and the political dream will be over. The thing that makes it even crazier is we are and have been one of the countries that apply the least state aid in the eu.As a country we have never believed in massive state aid and the eu know that. tell me an industry in the uk that if we did it would impact on the eu? The EU don’t trust this government to keep to their word , the Canada deal was never an option, it is time to move on from that fantasy you keep stating this why wasnt it or is it just another of your random statements with nothing to back it up? It has been explained to you why it won’t happen, it was never going to happen, the UK is now a trade competitor to the EU not an ally, it’s time to move on and accept this " Yes and ive explained why that is just a lame excuse . | |||
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"going back to why we cant have a canada deal. along with proximity, we deal way more with the eu than canada does. so if we start using state aid to subsidise our companies it unfairly outcompetes eu companies. if canada do the same thing it doesnt impact eu companies as much as it is a smaller amount of their trade. if we do it has bigger consequenses. a bit like what happens when china subsidises their steel to undercut everyone else. the eu want 'control of our rules' as you put it to prevent that happening to them. just as we want 'control of their rules' by trying to make them agree to that deal. its how trades work, we change some of our rules on how we trade and they change some of their rules on trading with us. they want to protect their interests just as much as we do ours.Exactly they put tariffs on ,they dont demand to have control over china's rules thats the way it works and always has.The eu could very easily say if you start applying state aid over what we already do there will be tariffs, it very simple to resolve its not about that its all about making it as hard as possible because once we make a success of it others will wonder why they haven't and the political dream will be over. The thing that makes it even crazier is we are and have been one of the countries that apply the least state aid in the eu.As a country we have never believed in massive state aid and the eu know that. tell me an industry in the uk that if we did it would impact on the eu? The EU don’t trust this government to keep to their word , the Canada deal was never an option, it is time to move on from that fantasy you keep stating this why wasnt it or is it just another of your random statements with nothing to back it up? It has been explained to you why it won’t happen, it was never going to happen, the UK is now a trade competitor to the EU not an ally, it’s time to move on and accept this Yes and ive explained why that is just a lame excuse ." That is your opinion, I am guessing the EU don’t care what you think? Your usually very level headed on here but your losing it a bit on this subject, I think your intelligent enough to realise a Canada deal was never an option | |||
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"going back to why we cant have a canada deal. along with proximity, we deal way more with the eu than canada does. so if we start using state aid to subsidise our companies it unfairly outcompetes eu companies. if canada do the same thing it doesnt impact eu companies as much as it is a smaller amount of their trade. if we do it has bigger consequenses. a bit like what happens when china subsidises their steel to undercut everyone else. the eu want 'control of our rules' as you put it to prevent that happening to them. just as we want 'control of their rules' by trying to make them agree to that deal. its how trades work, we change some of our rules on how we trade and they change some of their rules on trading with us. they want to protect their interests just as much as we do ours.Exactly they put tariffs on ,they dont demand to have control over china's rules thats the way it works and always has.The eu could very easily say if you start applying state aid over what we already do there will be tariffs, it very simple to resolve its not about that its all about making it as hard as possible because once we make a success of it others will wonder why they haven't and the political dream will be over. The thing that makes it even crazier is we are and have been one of the countries that apply the least state aid in the eu.As a country we have never believed in massive state aid and the eu know that. tell me an industry in the uk that if we did it would impact on the eu? The EU don’t trust this government to keep to their word , the Canada deal was never an option, it is time to move on from that fantasy you keep stating this why wasnt it or is it just another of your random statements with nothing to back it up? It has been explained to you why it won’t happen, it was never going to happen, the UK is now a trade competitor to the EU not an ally, it’s time to move on and accept this Yes and ive explained why that is just a lame excuse . That is your opinion, I am guessing the EU don’t care what you think? Your usually very level headed on here but your losing it a bit on this subject, I think your intelligent enough to realise a Canada deal was never an option " very good losing it do you think i really care enough what people post on here get a grip. you still havnt explained why you think a canada style deal was never an option what part of it would go against eu principles? lets get into the detail because all i see from you is random statements. You had to have someone else explain for you the principles of subsidies which however hard i pushed yesterday you could not explain. | |||
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"Once the UK leaves the single market and customs Union we will have to work on a deal that is closer to the Canada agreement - Michel Barnier " I was saving that for later. | |||
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"Once the UK leaves the single market and customs Union we will have to work on a deal that is closer to the Canada agreement - Michel Barnier I was saving that for later. " Sorry | |||
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"Once the UK leaves the single market and customs Union we will have to work on a deal that is closer to the Canada agreement - Michel Barnier I was saving that for later. " Maybe he was lying, you don’t mind politicians lying do you | |||
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"going back to why we cant have a canada deal. along with proximity, we deal way more with the eu than canada does. so if we start using state aid to subsidise our companies it unfairly outcompetes eu companies. if canada do the same thing it doesnt impact eu companies as much as it is a smaller amount of their trade. if we do it has bigger consequenses. a bit like what happens when china subsidises their steel to undercut everyone else. the eu want 'control of our rules' as you put it to prevent that happening to them. just as we want 'control of their rules' by trying to make them agree to that deal. its how trades work, we change some of our rules on how we trade and they change some of their rules on trading with us. they want to protect their interests just as much as we do ours.Exactly they put tariffs on ,they dont demand to have control over china's rules thats the way it works and always has.The eu could very easily say if you start applying state aid over what we already do there will be tariffs, it very simple to resolve its not about that its all about making it as hard as possible because once we make a success of it others will wonder why they haven't and the political dream will be over. The thing that makes it even crazier is we are and have been one of the countries that apply the least state aid in the eu.As a country we have never believed in massive state aid and the eu know that. tell me an industry in the uk that if we did it would impact on the eu? The EU don’t trust this government to keep to their word , the Canada deal was never an option, it is time to move on from that fantasy you keep stating this why wasnt it or is it just another of your random statements with nothing to back it up? It has been explained to you why it won’t happen, it was never going to happen, the UK is now a trade competitor to the EU not an ally, it’s time to move on and accept this Yes and ive explained why that is just a lame excuse . That is your opinion, I am guessing the EU don’t care what you think? Your usually very level headed on here but your losing it a bit on this subject, I think your intelligent enough to realise a Canada deal was never an option very good losing it do you think i really care enough what people post on here get a grip. you still havnt explained why you think a canada style deal was never an option what part of it would go against eu principles? lets get into the detail because all i see from you is random statements. You had to have someone else explain for you the principles of subsidies which however hard i pushed yesterday you could not explain." Calm down, the UK have absolutely no chance of getting a Canada deal, move on and accept it, Boris knows what he is doing | |||
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"going back to why we cant have a canada deal. along with proximity, we deal way more with the eu than canada does. so if we start using state aid to subsidise our companies it unfairly outcompetes eu companies. if canada do the same thing it doesnt impact eu companies as much as it is a smaller amount of their trade. if we do it has bigger consequenses. a bit like what happens when china subsidises their steel to undercut everyone else. the eu want 'control of our rules' as you put it to prevent that happening to them. just as we want 'control of their rules' by trying to make them agree to that deal. its how trades work, we change some of our rules on how we trade and they change some of their rules on trading with us. they want to protect their interests just as much as we do ours.Exactly they put tariffs on ,they dont demand to have control over china's rules thats the way it works and always has.The eu could very easily say if you start applying state aid over what we already do there will be tariffs, it very simple to resolve its not about that its all about making it as hard as possible because once we make a success of it others will wonder why they haven't and the political dream will be over. The thing that makes it even crazier is we are and have been one of the countries that apply the least state aid in the eu.As a country we have never believed in massive state aid and the eu know that. tell me an industry in the uk that if we did it would impact on the eu? " Some figures on the limited state aid that the EU allows. Measured as a proportion of GDP. Uk. 0.38% France. 0.76% Germany. 1.31% Poland. 1.59% | |||
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"going back to why we cant have a canada deal. along with proximity, we deal way more with the eu than canada does. so if we start using state aid to subsidise our companies it unfairly outcompetes eu companies. if canada do the same thing it doesnt impact eu companies as much as it is a smaller amount of their trade. if we do it has bigger consequenses. a bit like what happens when china subsidises their steel to undercut everyone else. the eu want 'control of our rules' as you put it to prevent that happening to them. just as we want 'control of their rules' by trying to make them agree to that deal. its how trades work, we change some of our rules on how we trade and they change some of their rules on trading with us. they want to protect their interests just as much as we do ours.Exactly they put tariffs on ,they dont demand to have control over china's rules thats the way it works and always has.The eu could very easily say if you start applying state aid over what we already do there will be tariffs, it very simple to resolve its not about that its all about making it as hard as possible because once we make a success of it others will wonder why they haven't and the political dream will be over. The thing that makes it even crazier is we are and have been one of the countries that apply the least state aid in the eu.As a country we have never believed in massive state aid and the eu know that. tell me an industry in the uk that if we did it would impact on the eu? Some figures on the limited state aid that the EU allows. Measured as a proportion of GDP. Uk. 0.38% France. 0.76% Germany. 1.31% Poland. 1.59% " That just proves my point. | |||
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"going back to why we cant have a canada deal. along with proximity, we deal way more with the eu than canada does. so if we start using state aid to subsidise our companies it unfairly outcompetes eu companies. if canada do the same thing it doesnt impact eu companies as much as it is a smaller amount of their trade. if we do it has bigger consequenses. a bit like what happens when china subsidises their steel to undercut everyone else. the eu want 'control of our rules' as you put it to prevent that happening to them. just as we want 'control of their rules' by trying to make them agree to that deal. its how trades work, we change some of our rules on how we trade and they change some of their rules on trading with us. they want to protect their interests just as much as we do ours.Exactly they put tariffs on ,they dont demand to have control over china's rules thats the way it works and always has.The eu could very easily say if you start applying state aid over what we already do there will be tariffs, it very simple to resolve its not about that its all about making it as hard as possible because once we make a success of it others will wonder why they haven't and the political dream will be over. The thing that makes it even crazier is we are and have been one of the countries that apply the least state aid in the eu.As a country we have never believed in massive state aid and the eu know that. tell me an industry in the uk that if we did it would impact on the eu? The EU don’t trust this government to keep to their word , the Canada deal was never an option, it is time to move on from that fantasy you keep stating this why wasnt it or is it just another of your random statements with nothing to back it up? It has been explained to you why it won’t happen, it was never going to happen, the UK is now a trade competitor to the EU not an ally, it’s time to move on and accept this Yes and ive explained why that is just a lame excuse . That is your opinion, I am guessing the EU don’t care what you think? Your usually very level headed on here but your losing it a bit on this subject, I think your intelligent enough to realise a Canada deal was never an option very good losing it do you think i really care enough what people post on here get a grip. you still havnt explained why you think a canada style deal was never an option what part of it would go against eu principles? lets get into the detail because all i see from you is random statements. You had to have someone else explain for you the principles of subsidies which however hard i pushed yesterday you could not explain. Calm down, the UK have absolutely no chance of getting a Canada deal, move on and accept it, Boris knows what he is doing " Ah back to the childish posts again its like talking to my grandson. | |||
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"going back to why we cant have a canada deal. along with proximity, we deal way more with the eu than canada does. so if we start using state aid to subsidise our companies it unfairly outcompetes eu companies. if canada do the same thing it doesnt impact eu companies as much as it is a smaller amount of their trade. if we do it has bigger consequenses. a bit like what happens when china subsidises their steel to undercut everyone else. the eu want 'control of our rules' as you put it to prevent that happening to them. just as we want 'control of their rules' by trying to make them agree to that deal. its how trades work, we change some of our rules on how we trade and they change some of their rules on trading with us. they want to protect their interests just as much as we do ours.Exactly they put tariffs on ,they dont demand to have control over china's rules thats the way it works and always has.The eu could very easily say if you start applying state aid over what we already do there will be tariffs, it very simple to resolve its not about that its all about making it as hard as possible because once we make a success of it others will wonder why they haven't and the political dream will be over. The thing that makes it even crazier is we are and have been one of the countries that apply the least state aid in the eu.As a country we have never believed in massive state aid and the eu know that. tell me an industry in the uk that if we did it would impact on the eu? The EU don’t trust this government to keep to their word , the Canada deal was never an option, it is time to move on from that fantasy you keep stating this why wasnt it or is it just another of your random statements with nothing to back it up? It has been explained to you why it won’t happen, it was never going to happen, the UK is now a trade competitor to the EU not an ally, it’s time to move on and accept this Yes and ive explained why that is just a lame excuse . That is your opinion, I am guessing the EU don’t care what you think? Your usually very level headed on here but your losing it a bit on this subject, I think your intelligent enough to realise a Canada deal was never an option very good losing it do you think i really care enough what people post on here get a grip. you still havnt explained why you think a canada style deal was never an option what part of it would go against eu principles? lets get into the detail because all i see from you is random statements. You had to have someone else explain for you the principles of subsidies which however hard i pushed yesterday you could not explain. Calm down, the UK have absolutely no chance of getting a Canada deal, move on and accept it, Boris knows what he is doing Ah back to the childish posts again its like talking to my grandson. " Haha, you seem rattled, don’t worry , Brexit is in good hands, you will get what you voted for | |||
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"going back to why we cant have a canada deal. along with proximity, we deal way more with the eu than canada does. so if we start using state aid to subsidise our companies it unfairly outcompetes eu companies. if canada do the same thing it doesnt impact eu companies as much as it is a smaller amount of their trade. if we do it has bigger consequenses. a bit like what happens when china subsidises their steel to undercut everyone else. the eu want 'control of our rules' as you put it to prevent that happening to them. just as we want 'control of their rules' by trying to make them agree to that deal. its how trades work, we change some of our rules on how we trade and they change some of their rules on trading with us. they want to protect their interests just as much as we do ours.Exactly they put tariffs on ,they dont demand to have control over china's rules thats the way it works and always has.The eu could very easily say if you start applying state aid over what we already do there will be tariffs, it very simple to resolve its not about that its all about making it as hard as possible because once we make a success of it others will wonder why they haven't and the political dream will be over. The thing that makes it even crazier is we are and have been one of the countries that apply the least state aid in the eu.As a country we have never believed in massive state aid and the eu know that. tell me an industry in the uk that if we did it would impact on the eu? The EU don’t trust this government to keep to their word , the Canada deal was never an option, it is time to move on from that fantasy you keep stating this why wasnt it or is it just another of your random statements with nothing to back it up? It has been explained to you why it won’t happen, it was never going to happen, the UK is now a trade competitor to the EU not an ally, it’s time to move on and accept this Yes and ive explained why that is just a lame excuse . That is your opinion, I am guessing the EU don’t care what you think? Your usually very level headed on here but your losing it a bit on this subject, I think your intelligent enough to realise a Canada deal was never an option very good losing it do you think i really care enough what people post on here get a grip. you still havnt explained why you think a canada style deal was never an option what part of it would go against eu principles? lets get into the detail because all i see from you is random statements. You had to have someone else explain for you the principles of subsidies which however hard i pushed yesterday you could not explain. Calm down, the UK have absolutely no chance of getting a Canada deal, move on and accept it, Boris knows what he is doing Ah back to the childish posts again its like talking to my grandson. Haha, you seem rattled, don’t worry , Brexit is in good hands, you will get what you voted for " You would like to think so but no,ive told you before when you come out with these childish posts it makes you look like an idiot. you are a grown man try to debate like one and if you dont know the answer its ok to say so no one will hold it against you. Anyway what part of the canada deal is the eu worried about giving to the uk? if you can answer that bit 1st we can then move on to the why. | |||
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"going back to why we cant have a canada deal. along with proximity, we deal way more with the eu than canada does. so if we start using state aid to subsidise our companies it unfairly outcompetes eu companies. if canada do the same thing it doesnt impact eu companies as much as it is a smaller amount of their trade. if we do it has bigger consequenses. a bit like what happens when china subsidises their steel to undercut everyone else. the eu want 'control of our rules' as you put it to prevent that happening to them. just as we want 'control of their rules' by trying to make them agree to that deal. its how trades work, we change some of our rules on how we trade and they change some of their rules on trading with us. they want to protect their interests just as much as we do ours.Exactly they put tariffs on ,they dont demand to have control over china's rules thats the way it works and always has.The eu could very easily say if you start applying state aid over what we already do there will be tariffs, it very simple to resolve its not about that its all about making it as hard as possible because once we make a success of it others will wonder why they haven't and the political dream will be over. The thing that makes it even crazier is we are and have been one of the countries that apply the least state aid in the eu.As a country we have never believed in massive state aid and the eu know that. tell me an industry in the uk that if we did it would impact on the eu? The EU don’t trust this government to keep to their word , the Canada deal was never an option, it is time to move on from that fantasy you keep stating this why wasnt it or is it just another of your random statements with nothing to back it up? It has been explained to you why it won’t happen, it was never going to happen, the UK is now a trade competitor to the EU not an ally, it’s time to move on and accept this Yes and ive explained why that is just a lame excuse . That is your opinion, I am guessing the EU don’t care what you think? Your usually very level headed on here but your losing it a bit on this subject, I think your intelligent enough to realise a Canada deal was never an option very good losing it do you think i really care enough what people post on here get a grip. you still havnt explained why you think a canada style deal was never an option what part of it would go against eu principles? lets get into the detail because all i see from you is random statements. You had to have someone else explain for you the principles of subsidies which however hard i pushed yesterday you could not explain. Calm down, the UK have absolutely no chance of getting a Canada deal, move on and accept it, Boris knows what he is doing Ah back to the childish posts again its like talking to my grandson. Haha, you seem rattled, don’t worry , Brexit is in good hands, you will get what you voted for You would like to think so but no,ive told you before when you come out with these childish posts it makes you look like an idiot. you are a grown man try to debate like one and if you dont know the answer its ok to say so no one will hold it against you. Anyway what part of the canada deal is the eu worried about giving to the uk? if you can answer that bit 1st we can then move on to the why." Chill my friend, it doesn’t matter what you or I think, I have given you the reasons but at the end of the day a Canada deal isn’t an option, what are you hoping for instead | |||
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"going back to why we cant have a canada deal. along with proximity, we deal way more with the eu than canada does. so if we start using state aid to subsidise our companies it unfairly outcompetes eu companies. if canada do the same thing it doesnt impact eu companies as much as it is a smaller amount of their trade. if we do it has bigger consequenses. a bit like what happens when china subsidises their steel to undercut everyone else. the eu want 'control of our rules' as you put it to prevent that happening to them. just as we want 'control of their rules' by trying to make them agree to that deal. its how trades work, we change some of our rules on how we trade and they change some of their rules on trading with us. they want to protect their interests just as much as we do ours.Exactly they put tariffs on ,they dont demand to have control over china's rules thats the way it works and always has.The eu could very easily say if you start applying state aid over what we already do there will be tariffs, it very simple to resolve its not about that its all about making it as hard as possible because once we make a success of it others will wonder why they haven't and the political dream will be over. The thing that makes it even crazier is we are and have been one of the countries that apply the least state aid in the eu.As a country we have never believed in massive state aid and the eu know that. tell me an industry in the uk that if we did it would impact on the eu? The EU don’t trust this government to keep to their word , the Canada deal was never an option, it is time to move on from that fantasy you keep stating this why wasnt it or is it just another of your random statements with nothing to back it up? It has been explained to you why it won’t happen, it was never going to happen, the UK is now a trade competitor to the EU not an ally, it’s time to move on and accept this Yes and ive explained why that is just a lame excuse . That is your opinion, I am guessing the EU don’t care what you think? Your usually very level headed on here but your losing it a bit on this subject, I think your intelligent enough to realise a Canada deal was never an option very good losing it do you think i really care enough what people post on here get a grip. you still havnt explained why you think a canada style deal was never an option what part of it would go against eu principles? lets get into the detail because all i see from you is random statements. You had to have someone else explain for you the principles of subsidies which however hard i pushed yesterday you could not explain. Calm down, the UK have absolutely no chance of getting a Canada deal, move on and accept it, Boris knows what he is doing Ah back to the childish posts again its like talking to my grandson. Haha, you seem rattled, don’t worry , Brexit is in good hands, you will get what you voted for You would like to think so but no,ive told you before when you come out with these childish posts it makes you look like an idiot. you are a grown man try to debate like one and if you dont know the answer its ok to say so no one will hold it against you. Anyway what part of the canada deal is the eu worried about giving to the uk? if you can answer that bit 1st we can then move on to the why. Chill my friend, it doesn’t matter what you or I think, I have given you the reasons but at the end of the day a Canada deal isn’t an option, what are you hoping for instead " so you really dont want to discuss it then,thats ok too, if you just want to make random remarks which you think in your head might wind someone up just say so.I would prefer to have a discussion as to why people think the way they do personally. | |||
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"going back to why we cant have a canada deal. along with proximity, we deal way more with the eu than canada does. so if we start using state aid to subsidise our companies it unfairly outcompetes eu companies. if canada do the same thing it doesnt impact eu companies as much as it is a smaller amount of their trade. if we do it has bigger consequenses. a bit like what happens when china subsidises their steel to undercut everyone else. the eu want 'control of our rules' as you put it to prevent that happening to them. just as we want 'control of their rules' by trying to make them agree to that deal. its how trades work, we change some of our rules on how we trade and they change some of their rules on trading with us. they want to protect their interests just as much as we do ours.Exactly they put tariffs on ,they dont demand to have control over china's rules thats the way it works and always has.The eu could very easily say if you start applying state aid over what we already do there will be tariffs, it very simple to resolve its not about that its all about making it as hard as possible because once we make a success of it others will wonder why they haven't and the political dream will be over. The thing that makes it even crazier is we are and have been one of the countries that apply the least state aid in the eu.As a country we have never believed in massive state aid and the eu know that. tell me an industry in the uk that if we did it would impact on the eu? The EU don’t trust this government to keep to their word , the Canada deal was never an option, it is time to move on from that fantasy you keep stating this why wasnt it or is it just another of your random statements with nothing to back it up? It has been explained to you why it won’t happen, it was never going to happen, the UK is now a trade competitor to the EU not an ally, it’s time to move on and accept this Yes and ive explained why that is just a lame excuse . That is your opinion, I am guessing the EU don’t care what you think? Your usually very level headed on here but your losing it a bit on this subject, I think your intelligent enough to realise a Canada deal was never an option very good losing it do you think i really care enough what people post on here get a grip. you still havnt explained why you think a canada style deal was never an option what part of it would go against eu principles? lets get into the detail because all i see from you is random statements. You had to have someone else explain for you the principles of subsidies which however hard i pushed yesterday you could not explain. Calm down, the UK have absolutely no chance of getting a Canada deal, move on and accept it, Boris knows what he is doing Ah back to the childish posts again its like talking to my grandson. Haha, you seem rattled, don’t worry , Brexit is in good hands, you will get what you voted for You would like to think so but no,ive told you before when you come out with these childish posts it makes you look like an idiot. you are a grown man try to debate like one and if you dont know the answer its ok to say so no one will hold it against you. Anyway what part of the canada deal is the eu worried about giving to the uk? if you can answer that bit 1st we can then move on to the why. Chill my friend, it doesn’t matter what you or I think, I have given you the reasons but at the end of the day a Canada deal isn’t an option, what are you hoping for instead so you really dont want to discuss it then,thats ok too, if you just want to make random remarks which you think in your head might wind someone up just say so.I would prefer to have a discussion as to why people think the way they do personally." You won’t accept my explanation, that’s fine . As a leave voter you must have a preference for what happens next, the options are limited now, but maybe some kind of deal can be found | |||
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"going back to why we cant have a canada deal. along with proximity, we deal way more with the eu than canada does. so if we start using state aid to subsidise our companies it unfairly outcompetes eu companies. if canada do the same thing it doesnt impact eu companies as much as it is a smaller amount of their trade. if we do it has bigger consequenses. a bit like what happens when china subsidises their steel to undercut everyone else. the eu want 'control of our rules' as you put it to prevent that happening to them. just as we want 'control of their rules' by trying to make them agree to that deal. its how trades work, we change some of our rules on how we trade and they change some of their rules on trading with us. they want to protect their interests just as much as we do ours.Exactly they put tariffs on ,they dont demand to have control over china's rules thats the way it works and always has.The eu could very easily say if you start applying state aid over what we already do there will be tariffs, it very simple to resolve its not about that its all about making it as hard as possible because once we make a success of it others will wonder why they haven't and the political dream will be over. The thing that makes it even crazier is we are and have been one of the countries that apply the least state aid in the eu.As a country we have never believed in massive state aid and the eu know that. tell me an industry in the uk that if we did it would impact on the eu? The EU don’t trust this government to keep to their word , the Canada deal was never an option, it is time to move on from that fantasy you keep stating this why wasnt it or is it just another of your random statements with nothing to back it up? It has been explained to you why it won’t happen, it was never going to happen, the UK is now a trade competitor to the EU not an ally, it’s time to move on and accept this Yes and ive explained why that is just a lame excuse . That is your opinion, I am guessing the EU don’t care what you think? Your usually very level headed on here but your losing it a bit on this subject, I think your intelligent enough to realise a Canada deal was never an option very good losing it do you think i really care enough what people post on here get a grip. you still havnt explained why you think a canada style deal was never an option what part of it would go against eu principles? lets get into the detail because all i see from you is random statements. You had to have someone else explain for you the principles of subsidies which however hard i pushed yesterday you could not explain. Calm down, the UK have absolutely no chance of getting a Canada deal, move on and accept it, Boris knows what he is doing Ah back to the childish posts again its like talking to my grandson. Haha, you seem rattled, don’t worry , Brexit is in good hands, you will get what you voted for You would like to think so but no,ive told you before when you come out with these childish posts it makes you look like an idiot. you are a grown man try to debate like one and if you dont know the answer its ok to say so no one will hold it against you. Anyway what part of the canada deal is the eu worried about giving to the uk? if you can answer that bit 1st we can then move on to the why. Chill my friend, it doesn’t matter what you or I think, I have given you the reasons but at the end of the day a Canada deal isn’t an option, what are you hoping for instead so you really dont want to discuss it then,thats ok too, if you just want to make random remarks which you think in your head might wind someone up just say so.I would prefer to have a discussion as to why people think the way they do personally. You won’t accept my explanation, that’s fine . As a leave voter you must have a preference for what happens next, the options are limited now, but maybe some kind of deal can be found " It doesn't bother me personally one way or the other as i dont trade with the eu.If the uk trades on wto terms after the 1st i can see disruption but that was always going to happen and will only help to speed up businesses to find trade outside the eu.As we are their biggest customer it proves to me that the eu is a political project as they cant be that stupid to drive their biggest customer away. | |||
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"going back to why we cant have a canada deal. along with proximity, we deal way more with the eu than canada does. so if we start using state aid to subsidise our companies it unfairly outcompetes eu companies. if canada do the same thing it doesnt impact eu companies as much as it is a smaller amount of their trade. if we do it has bigger consequenses. a bit like what happens when china subsidises their steel to undercut everyone else. the eu want 'control of our rules' as you put it to prevent that happening to them. just as we want 'control of their rules' by trying to make them agree to that deal. its how trades work, we change some of our rules on how we trade and they change some of their rules on trading with us. they want to protect their interests just as much as we do ours.Exactly they put tariffs on ,they dont demand to have control over china's rules thats the way it works and always has.The eu could very easily say if you start applying state aid over what we already do there will be tariffs, it very simple to resolve its not about that its all about making it as hard as possible because once we make a success of it others will wonder why they haven't and the political dream will be over. The thing that makes it even crazier is we are and have been one of the countries that apply the least state aid in the eu.As a country we have never believed in massive state aid and the eu know that. tell me an industry in the uk that if we did it would impact on the eu? The EU don’t trust this government to keep to their word , the Canada deal was never an option, it is time to move on from that fantasy you keep stating this why wasnt it or is it just another of your random statements with nothing to back it up? It has been explained to you why it won’t happen, it was never going to happen, the UK is now a trade competitor to the EU not an ally, it’s time to move on and accept this Yes and ive explained why that is just a lame excuse . That is your opinion, I am guessing the EU don’t care what you think? Your usually very level headed on here but your losing it a bit on this subject, I think your intelligent enough to realise a Canada deal was never an option very good losing it do you think i really care enough what people post on here get a grip. you still havnt explained why you think a canada style deal was never an option what part of it would go against eu principles? lets get into the detail because all i see from you is random statements. You had to have someone else explain for you the principles of subsidies which however hard i pushed yesterday you could not explain. Calm down, the UK have absolutely no chance of getting a Canada deal, move on and accept it, Boris knows what he is doing Ah back to the childish posts again its like talking to my grandson. Haha, you seem rattled, don’t worry , Brexit is in good hands, you will get what you voted for You would like to think so but no,ive told you before when you come out with these childish posts it makes you look like an idiot. you are a grown man try to debate like one and if you dont know the answer its ok to say so no one will hold it against you. Anyway what part of the canada deal is the eu worried about giving to the uk? if you can answer that bit 1st we can then move on to the why. Chill my friend, it doesn’t matter what you or I think, I have given you the reasons but at the end of the day a Canada deal isn’t an option, what are you hoping for instead so you really dont want to discuss it then,thats ok too, if you just want to make random remarks which you think in your head might wind someone up just say so.I would prefer to have a discussion as to why people think the way they do personally. You won’t accept my explanation, that’s fine . As a leave voter you must have a preference for what happens next, the options are limited now, but maybe some kind of deal can be found It doesn't bother me personally one way or the other as i dont trade with the eu.If the uk trades on wto terms after the 1st i can see disruption but that was always going to happen and will only help to speed up businesses to find trade outside the eu.As we are their biggest customer it proves to me that the eu is a political project as they cant be that stupid to drive their biggest customer away. " But you can’t be surprised at how the EU are acting, you must have known this would happen? At this stage it is increasingly unlikely that we are going to get a deal, I hope we do because a no deal will be a disaster | |||
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"One of the sticking points apparently is workers rights So you have got people actually calling for working people to have less rights. You genuinely couldn't make it up." I was waiting for you to chip in with that,we have some of the best holiday pay,sick pay and one of the highest minimum wages in the eu,which btw is going up again in april so why would the uk go backwards? any political party that tried would not get in again for decades. Just another excuse. | |||
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"One of the sticking points apparently is workers rights So you have got people actually calling for working people to have less rights. You genuinely couldn't make it up." No it isn't and no you haven't. And even if we did end up with less workers rights then we are free to elect a government who would replace them aren't we? You never know, you might end up with a Labour government eh | |||
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"One of the sticking points apparently is workers rights So you have got people actually calling for working people to have less rights. You genuinely couldn't make it up.I was waiting for you to chip in with that,we have some of the best holiday pay,sick pay and one of the highest minimum wages in the eu,which btw is going up again in april so why would the uk go backwards? any political party that tried would not get in again for decades. Just another excuse. " Can you provide a link to those facts please? | |||
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