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"How’s Portland getting on? Seemed to be kicking off on a nightly basis? " have freinds who live just outside of portland they reackon it was just a few blocks of downtown where it was icking off.they also say its not unusual for portland as they have a large number of the great unwashed and usefull idiots living there | |||
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"because the election is over give it four years and it will show up again.was a thing when it was trump v hillary then dissapeared even though people were still being killed by the police.same will happen this time people will still be killed but you will only get the protests in an election year" This is exactly what it was all about. Anybody with half a brain could see that. They were very selective about which black lives mattered too | |||
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"because the election is over give it four years and it will show up again.was a thing when it was trump v hillary then dissapeared even though people were still being killed by the police.same will happen this time people will still be killed but you will only get the protests in an election year This is exactly what it was all about. Anybody with half a brain could see that. They were very selective about which black lives mattered too" Presumably the ones murdered by police? | |||
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"Bit of a furore about millwall booing it yesterday " why a furore i shoud imagine tge more people they let in grounds the more it will happen.most go football to escape the real word for a cpl of hours | |||
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"Bit of a furore about millwall booing it yesterday " Sadly to be expected when you look at the likes of John Terry and Luis Suarez and the mediocre way the game has dealt with it over the years. The recent Anton Ferdinand documentary was difficult viewing. | |||
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"Bit of a furore about millwall booing it yesterday why a furore i shoud imagine tge more people they let in grounds the more it will happen.most go football to escape the real word for a cpl of hours" Should football matches be a safe space for race hate enthusiasts? | |||
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"Bit of a furore about millwall booing it yesterday why a furore i shoud imagine tge more people they let in grounds the more it will happen.most go football to escape the real word for a cpl of hours Should football matches be a safe space for race hate enthusiasts?" dunno should it?? personaly ive not wasted a penny of my money on football for the last 3 or 4 years.once it started costing more for a cpl of hours of football than i spend for a whole night out i lost intrest in te game.couldt even tell you where in the table my old team is now.just find it unbelivable people didnt expect it to happen once fans started being allowed in.the more they let in te more it will happen.it was pretty obvious.how often do you go to watch the football? | |||
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"Bit of a furore about millwall booing it yesterday why a furore i shoud imagine tge more people they let in grounds the more it will happen.most go football to escape the real word for a cpl of hours Should football matches be a safe space for race hate enthusiasts? dunno should it?? personaly ive not wasted a penny of my money on football for the last 3 or 4 years.once it started costing more for a cpl of hours of football than i spend for a whole night out i lost intrest in te game.couldt even tell you where in the table my old team is now.just find it unbelivable people didnt expect it to happen once fans started being allowed in.the more they let in te more it will happen.it was pretty obvious.how often do you go to watch the football?" I'm comfortable with racists feeling out of their comfort zone at football matches. I go to lower league games. I can't afford premier League of Champo tickets regularly. | |||
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"Bit of a furore about millwall booing it yesterday Sadly to be expected when you look at the likes of John Terry and Luis Suarez and the mediocre way the game has dealt with it over the years. The recent Anton Ferdinand documentary was difficult viewing. " I'm going off topic here but did you see what caviani posted last week? | |||
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"I don't think this is about racism, it's the fact that a lot of players feel obliged/forced to take the knee and only do so for fear of being ostracised by their peers even if they don't want to or don't understand who they are supporting or why they are doing it. It's an objection to this from the crowds. Public displays of virtue signalling doesn't mean you are not racist, it's how you act in real life, this needs to stop " Yep you would never associate racist issues with millwall. | |||
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"Bit of a furore about millwall booing it yesterday Sadly to be expected when you look at the likes of John Terry and Luis Suarez and the mediocre way the game has dealt with it over the years. The recent Anton Ferdinand documentary was difficult viewing. " As for racism it's now where near as it was in the 80s. | |||
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"I was just reading an article about a BBC special edition of the Vicar of Dibley to be shown at Christmas where the main character is supposedly going to be "taking the knee" and giving a speech regarding BLM and George Floyd. My point is, why should the main movement of BLM bother wasting their time and resources when the national TV station of the UK, whose citizens are forced to pay for it, spread their message for free?" Sounds about right for the eternally virtual signaling BBC As for the millions in donations BLM recieved - they were filtered into a company called Blue Act. The same company that handles all the Democratic party donations. Wonder who those millions went to | |||
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"because the election is over give it four years and it will show up again.was a thing when it was trump v hillary then dissapeared even though people were still being killed by the police.same will happen this time people will still be killed but you will only get the protests in an election year This is exactly what it was all about. Anybody with half a brain could see that. They were very selective about which black lives mattered too Presumably the ones murdered by police?" Specifically white police officers. It's easier to increase racial tensions that way you see. Those Marxists do like to divide and conquer | |||
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"I don't think this is about racism, it's the fact that a lot of players feel obliged/forced to take the knee and only do so for fear of being ostracised by their peers even if they don't want to or don't understand who they are supporting or why they are doing it. It's an objection to this from the crowds. Public displays of virtue signalling doesn't mean you are not racist, it's how you act in real life, this needs to stop " Is English football the only sport still taking the knee?. I watch all the cricket from around the world, and its not happening there. | |||
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"because the election is over give it four years and it will show up again.was a thing when it was trump v hillary then dissapeared even though people were still being killed by the police.same will happen this time people will still be killed but you will only get the protests in an election year This is exactly what it was all about. Anybody with half a brain could see that. They were very selective about which black lives mattered too Presumably the ones murdered by police? Specifically white police officers. It's easier to increase racial tensions that way you see. Those Marxists do like to divide and conquer " Those pesky American marxists  | |||
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"because the election is over give it four years and it will show up again.was a thing when it was trump v hillary then dissapeared even though people were still being killed by the police.same will happen this time people will still be killed but you will only get the protests in an election year This is exactly what it was all about. Anybody with half a brain could see that. They were very selective about which black lives mattered too Presumably the ones murdered by police? Specifically white police officers. It's easier to increase racial tensions that way you see. Those Marxists do like to divide and conquer Those pesky American marxists "Yuri Bezmenov gives an excellent talk about the tactics that he was trained to use. Find the cracks in western societies and do everything you can to make them bigger | |||
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"I don't think this is about racism, it's the fact that a lot of players feel obliged/forced to take the knee and only do so for fear of being ostracised by their peers even if they don't want to or don't understand who they are supporting or why they are doing it. It's an objection to this from the crowds. Public displays of virtue signalling doesn't mean you are not racist, it's how you act in real life, this needs to stop Yep you would never associate racist issues with millwall." racists no hooligans yes considering during the 80s one of there biggest nutters was a 6 ft black bloke | |||
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"I don't think this is about racism, it's the fact that a lot of players feel obliged/forced to take the knee and only do so for fear of being ostracised by their peers even if they don't want to or don't understand who they are supporting or why they are doing it. It's an objection to this from the crowds. Public displays of virtue signalling doesn't mean you are not racist, it's how you act in real life, this needs to stop Yep you would never associate racist issues with millwall. racists no hooligans yes considering during the 80s one of there biggest nutters was a 6 ft black bloke" Millwall.have decades long associations with the far right..like Chelsea. | |||
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"I don't think this is about racism, it's the fact that a lot of players feel obliged/forced to take the knee and only do so for fear of being ostracised by their peers even if they don't want to or don't understand who they are supporting or why they are doing it. It's an objection to this from the crowds. Public displays of virtue signalling doesn't mean you are not racist, it's how you act in real life, this needs to stop Yep you would never associate racist issues with millwall. racists no hooligans yes considering during the 80s one of there biggest nutters was a 6 ft black bloke" Exactly millwall have always had plenty of black supporters. | |||
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"I don't think this is about racism, it's the fact that a lot of players feel obliged/forced to take the knee and only do so for fear of being ostracised by their peers even if they don't want to or don't understand who they are supporting or why they are doing it. It's an objection to this from the crowds. Public displays of virtue signalling doesn't mean you are not racist, it's how you act in real life, this needs to stop Yep you would never associate racist issues with millwall. racists no hooligans yes considering during the 80s one of there biggest nutters was a 6 ft black bloke" Its just easier to accuse anybody that has seen through the political activists that are BLM of being racist. Its predictable and lazy | |||
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"I don't think this is about racism, it's the fact that a lot of players feel obliged/forced to take the knee and only do so for fear of being ostracised by their peers even if they don't want to or don't understand who they are supporting or why they are doing it. It's an objection to this from the crowds. Public displays of virtue signalling doesn't mean you are not racist, it's how you act in real life, this needs to stop Yep you would never associate racist issues with millwall. racists no hooligans yes considering during the 80s one of there biggest nutters was a 6 ft black bloke Its just easier to accuse anybody that has seen through the political activists that are BLM of being racist. Its predictable and lazy" So booing them taking them knee was millwall fans taking a stand against radical political American activism and nothing to do with racism. We are officially in the realms of surrealism | |||
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"I don't think this is about racism, it's the fact that a lot of players feel obliged/forced to take the knee and only do so for fear of being ostracised by their peers even if they don't want to or don't understand who they are supporting or why they are doing it. It's an objection to this from the crowds. Public displays of virtue signalling doesn't mean you are not racist, it's how you act in real life, this needs to stop Yep you would never associate racist issues with millwall. racists no hooligans yes considering during the 80s one of there biggest nutters was a 6 ft black blokeExactly millwall have always had plenty of black supporters." Are you suggesting millwall have never had an issue with racism? | |||
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"I don't think this is about racism, it's the fact that a lot of players feel obliged/forced to take the knee and only do so for fear of being ostracised by their peers even if they don't want to or don't understand who they are supporting or why they are doing it. It's an objection to this from the crowds. Public displays of virtue signalling doesn't mean you are not racist, it's how you act in real life, this needs to stop Yep you would never associate racist issues with millwall. racists no hooligans yes considering during the 80s one of there biggest nutters was a 6 ft black bloke Its just easier to accuse anybody that has seen through the political activists that are BLM of being racist. Its predictable and lazy So booing them taking them knee was millwall fans taking a stand against radical political American activism and nothing to do with racism. We are officially in the realms of surrealism " Some serious leaps of logic to try to pretend that racists aren't racist. | |||
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"I don't think this is about racism, it's the fact that a lot of players feel obliged/forced to take the knee and only do so for fear of being ostracised by their peers even if they don't want to or don't understand who they are supporting or why they are doing it. It's an objection to this from the crowds. Public displays of virtue signalling doesn't mean you are not racist, it's how you act in real life, this needs to stop Yep you would never associate racist issues with millwall. racists no hooligans yes considering during the 80s one of there biggest nutters was a 6 ft black bloke Its just easier to accuse anybody that has seen through the political activists that are BLM of being racist. Its predictable and lazy So booing them taking them knee was millwall fans taking a stand against radical political American activism and nothing to do with racism. We are officially in the realms of surrealism " They have clearly seen through the BLM bullshit tactics like most people now have. If you still choose to believe that they are an anti racist organisation then that is of course up to you chap | |||
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"I don't think this is about racism, it's the fact that a lot of players feel obliged/forced to take the knee and only do so for fear of being ostracised by their peers even if they don't want to or don't understand who they are supporting or why they are doing it. It's an objection to this from the crowds. Public displays of virtue signalling doesn't mean you are not racist, it's how you act in real life, this needs to stop Yep you would never associate racist issues with millwall. racists no hooligans yes considering during the 80s one of there biggest nutters was a 6 ft black bloke Its just easier to accuse anybody that has seen through the political activists that are BLM of being racist. Its predictable and lazy So booing them taking them knee was millwall fans taking a stand against radical political American activism and nothing to do with racism. We are officially in the realms of surrealism Some serious leaps of logic to try to pretend that racists aren't racist." The accusation is thrown around so much now that it means nothing anymore. Hence, lazy and predictable | |||
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"I don't think this is about racism, it's the fact that a lot of players feel obliged/forced to take the knee and only do so for fear of being ostracised by their peers even if they don't want to or don't understand who they are supporting or why they are doing it. It's an objection to this from the crowds. Public displays of virtue signalling doesn't mean you are not racist, it's how you act in real life, this needs to stop Yep you would never associate racist issues with millwall. racists no hooligans yes considering during the 80s one of there biggest nutters was a 6 ft black bloke Its just easier to accuse anybody that has seen through the political activists that are BLM of being racist. Its predictable and lazy So booing them taking them knee was millwall fans taking a stand against radical political American activism and nothing to do with racism. We are officially in the realms of surrealism Some serious leaps of logic to try to pretend that racists aren't racist." Have either of you two ever been to Bermondsey ?  | |||
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"I don't think this is about racism, it's the fact that a lot of players feel obliged/forced to take the knee and only do so for fear of being ostracised by their peers even if they don't want to or don't understand who they are supporting or why they are doing it. It's an objection to this from the crowds. Public displays of virtue signalling doesn't mean you are not racist, it's how you act in real life, this needs to stop Yep you would never associate racist issues with millwall. racists no hooligans yes considering during the 80s one of there biggest nutters was a 6 ft black bloke Its just easier to accuse anybody that has seen through the political activists that are BLM of being racist. Its predictable and lazy So booing them taking them knee was millwall fans taking a stand against radical political American activism and nothing to do with racism. We are officially in the realms of surrealism They have clearly seen through the BLM bullshit tactics like most people now have. If you still choose to believe that they are an anti racist organisation then that is of course up to you chap" Ha ha | |||
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"Dion Dublin came out yesterday and said that if you don't take the knee then you are a racist. Err no Dion, that's not how it works. This is the type of thing that will get people booing " Exactly. Agree with me or I'll accuse you of racism. He must've been on the Fab forums | |||
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"I don't think this is about racism, it's the fact that a lot of players feel obliged/forced to take the knee and only do so for fear of being ostracised by their peers even if they don't want to or don't understand who they are supporting or why they are doing it. It's an objection to this from the crowds. Public displays of virtue signalling doesn't mean you are not racist, it's how you act in real life, this needs to stop Yep you would never associate racist issues with millwall. racists no hooligans yes considering during the 80s one of there biggest nutters was a 6 ft black bloke Its just easier to accuse anybody that has seen through the political activists that are BLM of being racist. Its predictable and lazy So booing them taking them knee was millwall fans taking a stand against radical political American activism and nothing to do with racism. We are officially in the realms of surrealism Some serious leaps of logic to try to pretend that racists aren't racist.Have either of you two ever been to Bermondsey ? "You have a point? No one is saying everyone in that area is racist. However to deny millwall and a few other clubs have had a history of racism is bizarre. | |||
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"Dion Dublin came out yesterday and said that if you don't take the knee then you are a racist. Err no Dion, that's not how it works. This is the type of thing that will get people booing Exactly. Agree with me or I'll accuse you of racism. He must've been on the Fab forums " Who accused you of racism? | |||
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"I don't think this is about racism, it's the fact that a lot of players feel obliged/forced to take the knee and only do so for fear of being ostracised by their peers even if they don't want to or don't understand who they are supporting or why they are doing it. It's an objection to this from the crowds. Public displays of virtue signalling doesn't mean you are not racist, it's how you act in real life, this needs to stop Yep you would never associate racist issues with millwall. racists no hooligans yes considering during the 80s one of there biggest nutters was a 6 ft black bloke Its just easier to accuse anybody that has seen through the political activists that are BLM of being racist. Its predictable and lazy So booing them taking them knee was millwall fans taking a stand against radical political American activism and nothing to do with racism. We are officially in the realms of surrealism Some serious leaps of logic to try to pretend that racists aren't racist.Have either of you two ever been to Bermondsey ?
You have a point?
No one is saying everyone in that area is racist.
However to deny millwall and a few other clubs have had a history of racism is bizarre."Football hooligans yes was one myself when i was young until i grew up but nothing to with racism. | |||
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"I don't think this is about racism, it's the fact that a lot of players feel obliged/forced to take the knee and only do so for fear of being ostracised by their peers even if they don't want to or don't understand who they are supporting or why they are doing it. It's an objection to this from the crowds. Public displays of virtue signalling doesn't mean you are not racist, it's how you act in real life, this needs to stop Yep you would never associate racist issues with millwall. racists no hooligans yes considering during the 80s one of there biggest nutters was a 6 ft black bloke Its just easier to accuse anybody that has seen through the political activists that are BLM of being racist. Its predictable and lazy So booing them taking them knee was millwall fans taking a stand against radical political American activism and nothing to do with racism. We are officially in the realms of surrealism Some serious leaps of logic to try to pretend that racists aren't racist. The accusation is thrown around so much now that it means nothing anymore. Hence, lazy and predictable " In your view, how racist does someone need to be before we can call them out on it? | |||
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"Dion Dublin came out yesterday and said that if you don't take the knee then you are a racist. Err no Dion, that's not how it works. This is the type of thing that will get people booing Exactly. Agree with me or I'll accuse you of racism. He must've been on the Fab forums "  | |||
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"I don't think this is about racism, it's the fact that a lot of players feel obliged/forced to take the knee and only do so for fear of being ostracised by their peers even if they don't want to or don't understand who they are supporting or why they are doing it. It's an objection to this from the crowds. Public displays of virtue signalling doesn't mean you are not racist, it's how you act in real life, this needs to stop Yep you would never associate racist issues with millwall. racists no hooligans yes considering during the 80s one of there biggest nutters was a 6 ft black bloke Its just easier to accuse anybody that has seen through the political activists that are BLM of being racist. Its predictable and lazy So booing them taking them knee was millwall fans taking a stand against radical political American activism and nothing to do with racism. We are officially in the realms of surrealism Some serious leaps of logic to try to pretend that racists aren't racist. The accusation is thrown around so much now that it means nothing anymore. Hence, lazy and predictable In your view, how racist does someone need to be before we can call them out on it? " The burden of proof is on your shoulders. You are making the assumption Denouncing anyone that may think BLM have have only increased racial tensions as racists is, as I have said before, predictable and lazy | |||
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"I don't think this is about racism, it's the fact that a lot of players feel obliged/forced to take the knee and only do so for fear of being ostracised by their peers even if they don't want to or don't understand who they are supporting or why they are doing it. It's an objection to this from the crowds. Public displays of virtue signalling doesn't mean you are not racist, it's how you act in real life, this needs to stop Yep you would never associate racist issues with millwall. racists no hooligans yes considering during the 80s one of there biggest nutters was a 6 ft black bloke Its just easier to accuse anybody that has seen through the political activists that are BLM of being racist. Its predictable and lazy So booing them taking them knee was millwall fans taking a stand against radical political American activism and nothing to do with racism. We are officially in the realms of surrealism Some serious leaps of logic to try to pretend that racists aren't racist. The accusation is thrown around so much now that it means nothing anymore. Hence, lazy and predictable In your view, how racist does someone need to be before we can call them out on it? " Its a well worn tactic on the net accuse people of being racist and then ask them to defend it.You cant no more than you could defend it if i said you were anti gay. | |||
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"I don't think this is about racism, it's the fact that a lot of players feel obliged/forced to take the knee and only do so for fear of being ostracised by their peers even if they don't want to or don't understand who they are supporting or why they are doing it. It's an objection to this from the crowds. Public displays of virtue signalling doesn't mean you are not racist, it's how you act in real life, this needs to stop Yep you would never associate racist issues with millwall. racists no hooligans yes considering during the 80s one of there biggest nutters was a 6 ft black bloke Its just easier to accuse anybody that has seen through the political activists that are BLM of being racist. Its predictable and lazy So booing them taking them knee was millwall fans taking a stand against radical political American activism and nothing to do with racism. We are officially in the realms of surrealism Some serious leaps of logic to try to pretend that racists aren't racist.Have either of you two ever been to Bermondsey ?
You have a point?
No one is saying everyone in that area is racist.
However to deny millwall and a few other clubs have had a history of racism is bizarre.Football hooligans yes was one myself when i was young until i grew up but nothing to with racism."Presumably you have heard of combat 18? | |||
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"I don't think this is about racism, it's the fact that a lot of players feel obliged/forced to take the knee and only do so for fear of being ostracised by their peers even if they don't want to or don't understand who they are supporting or why they are doing it. It's an objection to this from the crowds. Public displays of virtue signalling doesn't mean you are not racist, it's how you act in real life, this needs to stop Yep you would never associate racist issues with millwall. racists no hooligans yes considering during the 80s one of there biggest nutters was a 6 ft black bloke Its just easier to accuse anybody that has seen through the political activists that are BLM of being racist. Its predictable and lazy So booing them taking them knee was millwall fans taking a stand against radical political American activism and nothing to do with racism. We are officially in the realms of surrealism Some serious leaps of logic to try to pretend that racists aren't racist. The accusation is thrown around so much now that it means nothing anymore. Hence, lazy and predictable In your view, how racist does someone need to be before we can call them out on it? Its a well worn tactic on the net accuse people of being racist and then ask them to defend it.You cant no more than you could defend it if i said you were anti gay." No one accused you of being a racist | |||
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"I don't think this is about racism, it's the fact that a lot of players feel obliged/forced to take the knee and only do so for fear of being ostracised by their peers even if they don't want to or don't understand who they are supporting or why they are doing it. It's an objection to this from the crowds. Public displays of virtue signalling doesn't mean you are not racist, it's how you act in real life, this needs to stop Yep you would never associate racist issues with millwall. racists no hooligans yes considering during the 80s one of there biggest nutters was a 6 ft black bloke Its just easier to accuse anybody that has seen through the political activists that are BLM of being racist. Its predictable and lazy So booing them taking them knee was millwall fans taking a stand against radical political American activism and nothing to do with racism. We are officially in the realms of surrealism Some serious leaps of logic to try to pretend that racists aren't racist. The accusation is thrown around so much now that it means nothing anymore. Hence, lazy and predictable In your view, how racist does someone need to be before we can call them out on it? The burden of proof is on your shoulders. You are making the assumption Denouncing anyone that may think BLM have have only increased racial tensions as racists is, as I have said before, predictable and lazy" Burden of proof? I genuinely don't understand what you mean. | |||
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"Have a read. https://www.invernodreaming.com/black-millwall" https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2019/08/01/millwall-fined-forced-accept-12-point-action-plan-punishment/amp/ | |||
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"It was well known that Everton were the most racist club in the top flights. Happily, that has now been put right. " Really? | |||
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"I don't think this is about racism, it's the fact that a lot of players feel obliged/forced to take the knee and only do so for fear of being ostracised by their peers even if they don't want to or don't understand who they are supporting or why they are doing it. It's an objection to this from the crowds. Public displays of virtue signalling doesn't mean you are not racist, it's how you act in real life, this needs to stop Yep you would never associate racist issues with millwall. racists no hooligans yes considering during the 80s one of there biggest nutters was a 6 ft black bloke Its just easier to accuse anybody that has seen through the political activists that are BLM of being racist. Its predictable and lazy So booing them taking them knee was millwall fans taking a stand against radical political American activism and nothing to do with racism. We are officially in the realms of surrealism Some serious leaps of logic to try to pretend that racists aren't racist. The accusation is thrown around so much now that it means nothing anymore. Hence, lazy and predictable In your view, how racist does someone need to be before we can call them out on it? Its a well worn tactic on the net accuse people of being racist and then ask them to defend it.You cant no more than you could defend it if i said you were anti gay." Huh? I don't understand the point. I haven't accused anyone of being racist. | |||
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"I don't think this is about racism, it's the fact that a lot of players feel obliged/forced to take the knee and only do so for fear of being ostracised by their peers even if they don't want to or don't understand who they are supporting or why they are doing it. It's an objection to this from the crowds. Public displays of virtue signalling doesn't mean you are not racist, it's how you act in real life, this needs to stop Yep you would never associate racist issues with millwall. racists no hooligans yes considering during the 80s one of there biggest nutters was a 6 ft black bloke Its just easier to accuse anybody that has seen through the political activists that are BLM of being racist. Its predictable and lazy So booing them taking them knee was millwall fans taking a stand against radical political American activism and nothing to do with racism. We are officially in the realms of surrealism Some serious leaps of logic to try to pretend that racists aren't racist. The accusation is thrown around so much now that it means nothing anymore. Hence, lazy and predictable In your view, how racist does someone need to be before we can call them out on it? The burden of proof is on your shoulders. You are making the assumption Denouncing anyone that may think BLM have have only increased racial tensions as racists is, as I have said before, predictable and lazy Burden of proof? I genuinely don't understand what you mean. " I know you dont but to labour the point would be futile | |||
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"Dion Dublin came out yesterday and said that if you don't take the knee then you are a racist. Err no Dion, that's not how it works. This is the type of thing that will get people booing " It's quotes like that from Dion that sets anti racism back. Labelling people racist for not doing as you say is pure stupidity and its the average person that suffers the backslash | |||
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"I was just reading an article about a BBC special edition of the Vicar of Dibley to be shown at Christmas where the main character is supposedly going to be "taking the knee" and giving a speech regarding BLM and George Floyd. My point is, why should the main movement of BLM bother wasting their time and resources when the national TV station of the UK, whose citizens are forced to pay for it, spread their message for free?" i mean.... why on earth would dawn french, who was married to a black man, and has inter-racial children, be partial to a message about all people being treated the same, be stuck into a programme she is the star of.... hmmmm......................  | |||
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"I don't think this is about racism, it's the fact that a lot of players feel obliged/forced to take the knee and only do so for fear of being ostracised by their peers even if they don't want to or don't understand who they are supporting or why they are doing it. It's an objection to this from the crowds. Public displays of virtue signalling doesn't mean you are not racist, it's how you act in real life, this needs to stop Yep you would never associate racist issues with millwall. racists no hooligans yes considering during the 80s one of there biggest nutters was a 6 ft black bloke Its just easier to accuse anybody that has seen through the political activists that are BLM of being racist. Its predictable and lazy So booing them taking them knee was millwall fans taking a stand against radical political American activism and nothing to do with racism. We are officially in the realms of surrealism Some serious leaps of logic to try to pretend that racists aren't racist. The accusation is thrown around so much now that it means nothing anymore. Hence, lazy and predictable In your view, how racist does someone need to be before we can call them out on it? The burden of proof is on your shoulders. You are making the assumption Denouncing anyone that may think BLM have have only increased racial tensions as racists is, as I have said before, predictable and lazy Burden of proof? I genuinely don't understand what you mean. I know you dont but to labour the point would be futile " No one is talking about accusing anyone of anything. I just asked you a question. | |||
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"I was just reading an article about a BBC special edition of the Vicar of Dibley to be shown at Christmas where the main character is supposedly going to be "taking the knee" and giving a speech regarding BLM and George Floyd. My point is, why should the main movement of BLM bother wasting their time and resources when the national TV station of the UK, whose citizens are forced to pay for it, spread their message for free? i mean.... why on earth would dawn french, who was married to a black man, and has inter-racial children, be partial to a message about all people being treated the same, be stuck into a programme she is the star of.... hmmmm...................... "Ahh if only that was the intention of BLM. Fortunately most informed people have worked out what they are really about And the Millwall fans are clearly sick to death of paying to watch virtue signalling morons bowing down to an openly Marxist organisation without even realizing it | |||
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"I was just reading an article about a BBC special edition of the Vicar of Dibley to be shown at Christmas where the main character is supposedly going to be "taking the knee" and giving a speech regarding BLM and George Floyd. My point is, why should the main movement of BLM bother wasting their time and resources when the national TV station of the UK, whose citizens are forced to pay for it, spread their message for free? i mean.... why on earth would dawn french, who was married to a black man, and has inter-racial children, be partial to a message about all people being treated the same, be stuck into a programme she is the star of.... hmmmm......................
Ahh if only that was the intention of BLM. Fortunately most informed people have worked out what they are really about
And the Millwall fans are clearly sick to death of paying to watch virtue signalling morons bowing down to an openly Marxist organisation without even realizing it "The grounds have been empty for the last 6 months | |||
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"I was just reading an article about a BBC special edition of the Vicar of Dibley to be shown at Christmas where the main character is supposedly going to be "taking the knee" and giving a speech regarding BLM and George Floyd. My point is, why should the main movement of BLM bother wasting their time and resources when the national TV station of the UK, whose citizens are forced to pay for it, spread their message for free? i mean.... why on earth would dawn french, who was married to a black man, and has inter-racial children, be partial to a message about all people being treated the same, be stuck into a programme she is the star of.... hmmmm......................
Ahh if only that was the intention of BLM. Fortunately most informed people have worked out what they are really about
And the Millwall fans are clearly sick to death of paying to watch virtue signalling morons bowing down to an openly Marxist organisation without even realizing it "What upsets you so much about people standing up to racism? I don't get it. Seems like it would be considered as positive thing by most people. What's Marxism got to do with anything, are you suggesting that only Marxists are against racism? I'd suggest that's inaccurate. | |||
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"because the election is over give it four years and it will show up again.was a thing when it was trump v hillary then dissapeared even though people were still being killed by the police.same will happen this time people will still be killed but you will only get the protests in an election year" | |||
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"I was just reading an article about a BBC special edition of the Vicar of Dibley to be shown at Christmas where the main character is supposedly going to be "taking the knee" and giving a speech regarding BLM and George Floyd. My point is, why should the main movement of BLM bother wasting their time and resources when the national TV station of the UK, whose citizens are forced to pay for it, spread their message for free? i mean.... why on earth would dawn french, who was married to a black man, and has inter-racial children, be partial to a message about all people being treated the same, be stuck into a programme she is the star of.... hmmmm......................
Ahh if only that was the intention of BLM. Fortunately most informed people have worked out what they are really about
And the Millwall fans are clearly sick to death of paying to watch virtue signalling morons bowing down to an openly Marxist organisation without even realizing it
The grounds have been empty for the last 6 months"You don't have to have been at the ground to watch the games | |||
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"I was just reading an article about a BBC special edition of the Vicar of Dibley to be shown at Christmas where the main character is supposedly going to be "taking the knee" and giving a speech regarding BLM and George Floyd. My point is, why should the main movement of BLM bother wasting their time and resources when the national TV station of the UK, whose citizens are forced to pay for it, spread their message for free? i mean.... why on earth would dawn french, who was married to a black man, and has inter-racial children, be partial to a message about all people being treated the same, be stuck into a programme she is the star of.... hmmmm......................
Ahh if only that was the intention of BLM. Fortunately most informed people have worked out what they are really about
And the Millwall fans are clearly sick to death of paying to watch virtue signalling morons bowing down to an openly Marxist organisation without even realizing it "Presumably when they chanted racist chants against son at a fa cup tie a few years ago..that was also a protest against"virtie signalling.' | |||
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"I was just reading an article about a BBC special edition of the Vicar of Dibley to be shown at Christmas where the main character is supposedly going to be "taking the knee" and giving a speech regarding BLM and George Floyd. My point is, why should the main movement of BLM bother wasting their time and resources when the national TV station of the UK, whose citizens are forced to pay for it, spread their message for free? i mean.... why on earth would dawn french, who was married to a black man, and has inter-racial children, be partial to a message about all people being treated the same, be stuck into a programme she is the star of.... hmmmm......................
Ahh if only that was the intention of BLM. Fortunately most informed people have worked out what they are really about
And the Millwall fans are clearly sick to death of paying to watch virtue signalling morons bowing down to an openly Marxist organisation without even realizing it
What upsets you so much about people standing up to racism?
I don't get it. Seems like it would be considered as positive thing by most people.
What's Marxism got to do with anything, are you suggesting that only Marxists are against racism? I'd suggest that's inaccurate."You ask a lot of questions chap. Google BLM and Marxists. Thats the best advice I can offer you | |||
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"I was just reading an article about a BBC special edition of the Vicar of Dibley to be shown at Christmas where the main character is supposedly going to be "taking the knee" and giving a speech regarding BLM and George Floyd. My point is, why should the main movement of BLM bother wasting their time and resources when the national TV station of the UK, whose citizens are forced to pay for it, spread their message for free? i mean.... why on earth would dawn french, who was married to a black man, and has inter-racial children, be partial to a message about all people being treated the same, be stuck into a programme she is the star of.... hmmmm......................
Ahh if only that was the intention of BLM. Fortunately most informed people have worked out what they are really about
And the Millwall fans are clearly sick to death of paying to watch virtue signalling morons bowing down to an openly Marxist organisation without even realizing it
What upsets you so much about people standing up to racism?
I don't get it. Seems like it would be considered as positive thing by most people.
What's Marxism got to do with anything, are you suggesting that only Marxists are against racism? I'd suggest that's inaccurate.
You ask a lot of questions chap. Google BLM and Marxists. Thats the best advice I can offer you "I ask questions because you make a lot of bizarre points that you don't explain or back up. It's interesting. On the other hand I've no interest in reading some conspiracy nonsense about Marxists and BLM on Google. I'm interested in how you come about your opinions. | |||
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"I was just reading an article about a BBC special edition of the Vicar of Dibley to be shown at Christmas where the main character is supposedly going to be "taking the knee" and giving a speech regarding BLM and George Floyd. My point is, why should the main movement of BLM bother wasting their time and resources when the national TV station of the UK, whose citizens are forced to pay for it, spread their message for free? i mean.... why on earth would dawn french, who was married to a black man, and has inter-racial children, be partial to a message about all people being treated the same, be stuck into a programme she is the star of.... hmmmm......................
Ahh if only that was the intention of BLM. Fortunately most informed people have worked out what they are really about
And the Millwall fans are clearly sick to death of paying to watch virtue signalling morons bowing down to an openly Marxist organisation without even realizing it
Presumably when they chanted racist chants against son at a fa cup tie a few years ago..that was also a protest against"virtie signalling.'"Nope and let's all call out racism where it actually exists | |||
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"I was just reading an article about a BBC special edition of the Vicar of Dibley to be shown at Christmas where the main character is supposedly going to be "taking the knee" and giving a speech regarding BLM and George Floyd. My point is, why should the main movement of BLM bother wasting their time and resources when the national TV station of the UK, whose citizens are forced to pay for it, spread their message for free? i mean.... why on earth would dawn french, who was married to a black man, and has inter-racial children, be partial to a message about all people being treated the same, be stuck into a programme she is the star of.... hmmmm......................
Ahh if only that was the intention of BLM. Fortunately most informed people have worked out what they are really about
And the Millwall fans are clearly sick to death of paying to watch virtue signalling morons bowing down to an openly Marxist organisation without even realizing it
What upsets you so much about people standing up to racism?
I don't get it. Seems like it would be considered as positive thing by most people.
What's Marxism got to do with anything, are you suggesting that only Marxists are against racism? I'd suggest that's inaccurate.
You ask a lot of questions chap. Google BLM and Marxists. Thats the best advice I can offer you
I ask questions because you make a lot of bizarre points that you don't explain or back up. It's interesting.
On the other hand I've no interest in reading some conspiracy nonsense about Marxists and BLM on Google.
I'm interested in how you come about your opinions."Haha conspiracy theory. Just go to the BLM website. They are very clear about their intentions Or have you never even visited their page? Hmmm | |||
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"I was just reading an article about a BBC special edition of the Vicar of Dibley to be shown at Christmas where the main character is supposedly going to be "taking the knee" and giving a speech regarding BLM and George Floyd. My point is, why should the main movement of BLM bother wasting their time and resources when the national TV station of the UK, whose citizens are forced to pay for it, spread their message for free? i mean.... why on earth would dawn french, who was married to a black man, and has inter-racial children, be partial to a message about all people being treated the same, be stuck into a programme she is the star of.... hmmmm......................
Ahh if only that was the intention of BLM. Fortunately most informed people have worked out what they are really about
And the Millwall fans are clearly sick to death of paying to watch virtue signalling morons bowing down to an openly Marxist organisation without even realizing it
Presumably when they chanted racist chants against son at a fa cup tie a few years ago..that was also a protest against"virtie signalling.'
Nope and let's all call out racism where it actually exists"The club have condemned the booing How many marxists do they have on the board at millwall? | |||
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"I was just reading an article about a BBC special edition of the Vicar of Dibley to be shown at Christmas where the main character is supposedly going to be "taking the knee" and giving a speech regarding BLM and George Floyd. My point is, why should the main movement of BLM bother wasting their time and resources when the national TV station of the UK, whose citizens are forced to pay for it, spread their message for free? i mean.... why on earth would dawn french, who was married to a black man, and has inter-racial children, be partial to a message about all people being treated the same, be stuck into a programme she is the star of.... hmmmm......................
Ahh if only that was the intention of BLM. Fortunately most informed people have worked out what they are really about
And the Millwall fans are clearly sick to death of paying to watch virtue signalling morons bowing down to an openly Marxist organisation without even realizing it
Presumably when they chanted racist chants against son at a fa cup tie a few years ago..that was also a protest against"virtie signalling.'
Nope and let's all call out racism where it actually exists
The club have condemned the booing
How many marxists do they have on the board at millwall?"They wouldn't have to be Marxists of course. Just ill-informed hey Lionel | |||
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"wow.... tons of dog whistling going on in this thread..... rather than couch it... just say it.... " what do you mean by that? | |||
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"I don't think this is about racism, it's the fact that a lot of players feel obliged/forced to take the knee and only do so for fear of being ostracised by their peers even if they don't want to or don't understand who they are supporting or why they are doing it. It's an objection to this from the crowds. Public displays of virtue signalling doesn't mean you are not racist, it's how you act in real life, this needs to stop Is English football the only sport still taking the knee?. I watch all the cricket from around the world, and its not happening there. " Bearing in mind some people seem to think we have a lot in common with Europe. Can anyone tell me if football players are taking the knee in Ligue 1, bundesliga, La Liga & Serie a? | |||
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"wow.... tons of dog whistling going on in this thread..... rather than couch it... just say it.... " And as if to prove my point perfectly... | |||
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"I was just reading an article about a BBC special edition of the Vicar of Dibley to be shown at Christmas where the main character is supposedly going to be "taking the knee" and giving a speech regarding BLM and George Floyd. My point is, why should the main movement of BLM bother wasting their time and resources when the national TV station of the UK, whose citizens are forced to pay for it, spread their message for free? i mean.... why on earth would dawn french, who was married to a black man, and has inter-racial children, be partial to a message about all people being treated the same, be stuck into a programme she is the star of.... hmmmm......................
Ahh if only that was the intention of BLM. Fortunately most informed people have worked out what they are really about
And the Millwall fans are clearly sick to death of paying to watch virtue signalling morons bowing down to an openly Marxist organisation without even realizing it
Presumably when they chanted racist chants against son at a fa cup tie a few years ago..that was also a protest against"virtie signalling.'
Nope and let's all call out racism where it actually exists
The club have condemned the booing
How many marxists do they have on the board at millwall?
They wouldn't have to be Marxists of course. Just ill-informed hey Lionel "So the people who run millwall are less informed than the fans who booed? | |||
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"I don't think this is about racism, it's the fact that a lot of players feel obliged/forced to take the knee and only do so for fear of being ostracised by their peers even if they don't want to or don't understand who they are supporting or why they are doing it. It's an objection to this from the crowds. Public displays of virtue signalling doesn't mean you are not racist, it's how you act in real life, this needs to stop Is English football the only sport still taking the knee?. I watch all the cricket from around the world, and its not happening there. Bearing in mind some people seem to think we have a lot in common with Europe. Can anyone tell me if football players are taking the knee in Ligue 1, bundesliga, La Liga & Serie a?" Plenty according to Google | |||
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"I was just reading an article about a BBC special edition of the Vicar of Dibley to be shown at Christmas where the main character is supposedly going to be "taking the knee" and giving a speech regarding BLM and George Floyd. My point is, why should the main movement of BLM bother wasting their time and resources when the national TV station of the UK, whose citizens are forced to pay for it, spread their message for free? i mean.... why on earth would dawn french, who was married to a black man, and has inter-racial children, be partial to a message about all people being treated the same, be stuck into a programme she is the star of.... hmmmm......................
Ahh if only that was the intention of BLM. Fortunately most informed people have worked out what they are really about
And the Millwall fans are clearly sick to death of paying to watch virtue signalling morons bowing down to an openly Marxist organisation without even realizing it
What upsets you so much about people standing up to racism?
I don't get it. Seems like it would be considered as positive thing by most people.
What's Marxism got to do with anything, are you suggesting that only Marxists are against racism? I'd suggest that's inaccurate.
You ask a lot of questions chap. Google BLM and Marxists. Thats the best advice I can offer you
I ask questions because you make a lot of bizarre points that you don't explain or back up. It's interesting.
On the other hand I've no interest in reading some conspiracy nonsense about Marxists and BLM on Google.
I'm interested in how you come about your opinions."Because they are a political party. A notice of the application to register a UK-wide political party under the name Black Lives Matter was published by the Electoral Commission on Monday. | |||
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"I was just reading an article about a BBC special edition of the Vicar of Dibley to be shown at Christmas where the main character is supposedly going to be "taking the knee" and giving a speech regarding BLM and George Floyd. My point is, why should the main movement of BLM bother wasting their time and resources when the national TV station of the UK, whose citizens are forced to pay for it, spread their message for free? i mean.... why on earth would dawn french, who was married to a black man, and has inter-racial children, be partial to a message about all people being treated the same, be stuck into a programme she is the star of.... hmmmm......................
Ahh if only that was the intention of BLM. Fortunately most informed people have worked out what they are really about
And the Millwall fans are clearly sick to death of paying to watch virtue signalling morons bowing down to an openly Marxist organisation without even realizing it
What upsets you so much about people standing up to racism?
I don't get it. Seems like it would be considered as positive thing by most people.
What's Marxism got to do with anything, are you suggesting that only Marxists are against racism? I'd suggest that's inaccurate.
You ask a lot of questions chap. Google BLM and Marxists. Thats the best advice I can offer you
I ask questions because you make a lot of bizarre points that you don't explain or back up. It's interesting.
On the other hand I've no interest in reading some conspiracy nonsense about Marxists and BLM on Google.
I'm interested in how you come about your opinions.Because they are a political party.
A notice of the application to register a UK-wide political party under the name Black Lives Matter was published by the Electoral Commission on Monday."You think they should be banned? | |||
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"I was just reading an article about a BBC special edition of the Vicar of Dibley to be shown at Christmas where the main character is supposedly going to be "taking the knee" and giving a speech regarding BLM and George Floyd. My point is, why should the main movement of BLM bother wasting their time and resources when the national TV station of the UK, whose citizens are forced to pay for it, spread their message for free? i mean.... why on earth would dawn french, who was married to a black man, and has inter-racial children, be partial to a message about all people being treated the same, be stuck into a programme she is the star of.... hmmmm......................
Ahh if only that was the intention of BLM. Fortunately most informed people have worked out what they are really about
And the Millwall fans are clearly sick to death of paying to watch virtue signalling morons bowing down to an openly Marxist organisation without even realizing it
What upsets you so much about people standing up to racism?
I don't get it. Seems like it would be considered as positive thing by most people.
What's Marxism got to do with anything, are you suggesting that only Marxists are against racism? I'd suggest that's inaccurate.
You ask a lot of questions chap. Google BLM and Marxists. Thats the best advice I can offer you
I ask questions because you make a lot of bizarre points that you don't explain or back up. It's interesting.
On the other hand I've no interest in reading some conspiracy nonsense about Marxists and BLM on Google.
I'm interested in how you come about your opinions.
Haha conspiracy theory. Just go to the BLM website. They are very clear about their intentions
Or have you never even visited their page? Hmmm"I've browsed the BLM website. How does your accusation that they're Marxists (even if they were, why is that important?), relate to you being upset about people standing up to racism? And why are you so annoyed about people talking about the racists at the recent Millwall match? | |||
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"I was just reading an article about a BBC special edition of the Vicar of Dibley to be shown at Christmas where the main character is supposedly going to be "taking the knee" and giving a speech regarding BLM and George Floyd. My point is, why should the main movement of BLM bother wasting their time and resources when the national TV station of the UK, whose citizens are forced to pay for it, spread their message for free? i mean.... why on earth would dawn french, who was married to a black man, and has inter-racial children, be partial to a message about all people being treated the same, be stuck into a programme she is the star of.... hmmmm......................
Ahh if only that was the intention of BLM. Fortunately most informed people have worked out what they are really about
And the Millwall fans are clearly sick to death of paying to watch virtue signalling morons bowing down to an openly Marxist organisation without even realizing it
Presumably when they chanted racist chants against son at a fa cup tie a few years ago..that was also a protest against"virtie signalling.'
Nope and let's all call out racism where it actually exists"This is what I was trying to get at with my question earlier. So racist chants are too racist. Booing people who are making at public gesture to stand up to racism. Isn't racist enough to be allowed to be called out. Interesting. | |||
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"I was just reading an article about a BBC special edition of the Vicar of Dibley to be shown at Christmas where the main character is supposedly going to be "taking the knee" and giving a speech regarding BLM and George Floyd. My point is, why should the main movement of BLM bother wasting their time and resources when the national TV station of the UK, whose citizens are forced to pay for it, spread their message for free? i mean.... why on earth would dawn french, who was married to a black man, and has inter-racial children, be partial to a message about all people being treated the same, be stuck into a programme she is the star of.... hmmmm......................
Ahh if only that was the intention of BLM. Fortunately most informed people have worked out what they are really about
And the Millwall fans are clearly sick to death of paying to watch virtue signalling morons bowing down to an openly Marxist organisation without even realizing it
Presumably when they chanted racist chants against son at a fa cup tie a few years ago..that was also a protest against"virtie signalling.'
Nope and let's all call out racism where it actually exists
This is what I was trying to get at with my question earlier.
So racist chants are too racist.
Booing people who are making at public gesture to stand up to racism. Isn't racist enough to be allowed to be called out.
Interesting."If you don't know, I can't teach you | |||
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"I was just reading an article about a BBC special edition of the Vicar of Dibley to be shown at Christmas where the main character is supposedly going to be "taking the knee" and giving a speech regarding BLM and George Floyd. My point is, why should the main movement of BLM bother wasting their time and resources when the national TV station of the UK, whose citizens are forced to pay for it, spread their message for free? i mean.... why on earth would dawn french, who was married to a black man, and has inter-racial children, be partial to a message about all people being treated the same, be stuck into a programme she is the star of.... hmmmm......................
Ahh if only that was the intention of BLM. Fortunately most informed people have worked out what they are really about
And the Millwall fans are clearly sick to death of paying to watch virtue signalling morons bowing down to an openly Marxist organisation without even realizing it
Presumably when they chanted racist chants against son at a fa cup tie a few years ago..that was also a protest against"virtie signalling.'
Nope and let's all call out racism where it actually exists
This is what I was trying to get at with my question earlier.
So racist chants are too racist.
Booing people who are making at public gesture to stand up to racism. Isn't racist enough to be allowed to be called out.
Interesting.
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"I was just reading an article about a BBC special edition of the Vicar of Dibley to be shown at Christmas where the main character is supposedly going to be "taking the knee" and giving a speech regarding BLM and George Floyd. My point is, why should the main movement of BLM bother wasting their time and resources when the national TV station of the UK, whose citizens are forced to pay for it, spread their message for free? i mean.... why on earth would dawn french, who was married to a black man, and has inter-racial children, be partial to a message about all people being treated the same, be stuck into a programme she is the star of.... hmmmm......................
Ahh if only that was the intention of BLM. Fortunately most informed people have worked out what they are really about
And the Millwall fans are clearly sick to death of paying to watch virtue signalling morons bowing down to an openly Marxist organisation without even realizing it
Presumably when they chanted racist chants against son at a fa cup tie a few years ago..that was also a protest against"virtie signalling.'
Nope and let's all call out racism where it actually exists
This is what I was trying to get at with my question earlier.
So racist chants are too racist.
Booing people who are making at public gesture to stand up to racism. Isn't racist enough to be allowed to be called out.
Interesting.
If you don't know, I can't teach you
You did. I was telling you that you answered the question."I know you probably wont take my advice but I would really recommend a short interview on Youtube with Trevor Phillips and Andrew Neil Its only about 15 minutes long and I would be genuinely intrigued to see what you make of it | |||
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"I was just reading an article about a BBC special edition of the Vicar of Dibley to be shown at Christmas where the main character is supposedly going to be "taking the knee" and giving a speech regarding BLM and George Floyd. My point is, why should the main movement of BLM bother wasting their time and resources when the national TV station of the UK, whose citizens are forced to pay for it, spread their message for free? i mean.... why on earth would dawn french, who was married to a black man, and has inter-racial children, be partial to a message about all people being treated the same, be stuck into a programme she is the star of.... hmmmm......................
Ahh if only that was the intention of BLM. Fortunately most informed people have worked out what they are really about
And the Millwall fans are clearly sick to death of paying to watch virtue signalling morons bowing down to an openly Marxist organisation without even realizing it
Presumably when they chanted racist chants against son at a fa cup tie a few years ago..that was also a protest against"virtie signalling.'
Nope and let's all call out racism where it actually exists
This is what I was trying to get at with my question earlier.
So racist chants are too racist.
Booing people who are making at public gesture to stand up to racism. Isn't racist enough to be allowed to be called out.
Interesting.
If you don't know, I can't teach you
You did. I was telling you that you answered the question.
I know you probably wont take my advice but I would really recommend a short interview on Youtube with Trevor Phillips and Andrew Neil
Its only about 15 minutes long and I would be genuinely intrigued to see what you make of it"I'll check it out. | |||
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"I was just reading an article about a BBC special edition of the Vicar of Dibley to be shown at Christmas where the main character is supposedly going to be "taking the knee" and giving a speech regarding BLM and George Floyd. My point is, why should the main movement of BLM bother wasting their time and resources when the national TV station of the UK, whose citizens are forced to pay for it, spread their message for free? i mean.... why on earth would dawn french, who was married to a black man, and has inter-racial children, be partial to a message about all people being treated the same, be stuck into a programme she is the star of.... hmmmm......................
Ahh if only that was the intention of BLM. Fortunately most informed people have worked out what they are really about
And the Millwall fans are clearly sick to death of paying to watch virtue signalling morons bowing down to an openly Marxist organisation without even realizing it
Presumably when they chanted racist chants against son at a fa cup tie a few years ago..that was also a protest against"virtie signalling.'
Nope and let's all call out racism where it actually exists
This is what I was trying to get at with my question earlier.
So racist chants are too racist.
Booing people who are making at public gesture to stand up to racism. Isn't racist enough to be allowed to be called out.
Interesting.
If you don't know, I can't teach you
You did. I was telling you that you answered the question.
I know you probably wont take my advice but I would really recommend a short interview on Youtube with Trevor Phillips and Andrew Neil
Its only about 15 minutes long and I would be genuinely intrigued to see what you make of it
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"Why has everyone picked up the ball and run with the idea that those booing were just out and out racists at Millwall? Why can’t it be they’re just sick of the kneeling or the politicisation of their sport? They were booing at NBA games in America. They’ve been booing at cricket over here too. Are they all racists? " Did any other clubs boo? | |||
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"Why has everyone picked up the ball and run with the idea that those booing were just out and out racists at Millwall? Why can’t it be they’re just sick of the kneeling or the politicisation of their sport? They were booing at NBA games in America. They’ve been booing at cricket over here too. Are they all racists? Did any other clubs boo?" West Ham wolf has been told by a mate at the match | |||
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"There is probally a debate to be had about how long it continues,but the only thing those bone heads achieved know sat,was making sure its not ending any time soon. There is also the argument that should supporters have a say anyway?They arent being asked to.do anything. It's down to the players." When people say if you don't kneel you are a racist, what choice do these young lads have? | |||
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"Why has everyone picked up the ball and run with the idea that those booing were just out and out racists at Millwall? Why can’t it be they’re just sick of the kneeling or the politicisation of their sport? They were booing at NBA games in America. They’ve been booing at cricket over here too. Are they all racists? Did any other clubs boo? West Ham wolf has been told by a mate at the match " 1 other club and I'm guessing it wasmt as loud as millwall. Millwall have a history of racism | |||
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"There is probally a debate to be had about how long it continues,but the only thing those bone heads achieved know sat,was making sure its not ending any time soon. There is also the argument that should supporters have a say anyway?They arent being asked to.do anything. It's down to the players. When people say if you don't kneel you are a racist, what choice do these young lads have? " So you think the players are made to kneel? | |||
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"There is probally a debate to be had about how long it continues,but the only thing those bone heads achieved know sat,was making sure its not ending any time soon. There is also the argument that should supporters have a say anyway?They arent being asked to.do anything. It's down to the players. When people say if you don't kneel you are a racist, what choice do these young lads have? " Exactly. Loses all meaning or significance when you’re effectively coerced into doing something. Like Lewis Hamilton ‘demanding’ F1 drivers do more to show solidarity with BLM. | |||
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"There is probally a debate to be had about how long it continues,but the only thing those bone heads achieved know sat,was making sure its not ending any time soon. There is also the argument that should supporters have a say anyway?They arent being asked to.do anything. It's down to the players. When people say if you don't kneel you are a racist, what choice do these young lads have? So you think the players are made to kneel?" Why do you answer everything with a question? It would be a brave kid who didn't kneel | |||
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"Why has everyone picked up the ball and run with the idea that those booing were just out and out racists at Millwall? Why can’t it be they’re just sick of the kneeling or the politicisation of their sport? They were booing at NBA games in America. They’ve been booing at cricket over here too. Are they all racists? Did any other clubs boo? West Ham wolf has been told by a mate at the match 1 other club and I'm guessing it wasmt as loud as millwall. Millwall have a history of racism " All clubs have a history of racism. Racism was a part of football for decades. I’ve heard some of the worst racial abuse of my life at an Everton match I was dragged to just a couple of years ago. | |||
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"There is probally a debate to be had about how long it continues,but the only thing those bone heads achieved know sat,was making sure its not ending any time soon. There is also the argument that should supporters have a say anyway?They arent being asked to.do anything. It's down to the players. When people say if you don't kneel you are a racist, what choice do these young lads have? So you think the players are made to kneel? Why do you answer everything with a question? It would be a brave kid who didn't kneel " You made a statement that you are branded a racist if you domt kneel. I asked a question are they made to.kneel? | |||
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"Why has everyone picked up the ball and run with the idea that those booing were just out and out racists at Millwall? Why can’t it be they’re just sick of the kneeling or the politicisation of their sport? They were booing at NBA games in America. They’ve been booing at cricket over here too. Are they all racists? Did any other clubs boo? West Ham wolf has been told by a mate at the match 1 other club and I'm guessing it wasmt as loud as millwall. Millwall have a history of racism All clubs have a history of racism. Racism was a part of football for decades. I’ve heard some of the worst racial abuse of my life at an Everton match I was dragged to just a couple of years ago. " All clubs dont. Some do and some have a much worse reputation than others Millwall being one of them. | |||
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"There is probally a debate to be had about how long it continues,but the only thing those bone heads achieved know sat,was making sure its not ending any time soon. There is also the argument that should supporters have a say anyway?They arent being asked to.do anything. It's down to the players. When people say if you don't kneel you are a racist, what choice do these young lads have? So you think the players are made to kneel? Why do you answer everything with a question? It would be a brave kid who didn't kneel You made a statement that you are branded a racist if you domt kneel. I asked a question are they made to.kneel?" You’re deliberately obfuscating silverhorns point and you know it. Like has been said, it’s a brave lad who chooses not to kneel. | |||
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"There is probally a debate to be had about how long it continues,but the only thing those bone heads achieved know sat,was making sure its not ending any time soon. There is also the argument that should supporters have a say anyway?They arent being asked to.do anything. It's down to the players. When people say if you don't kneel you are a racist, what choice do these young lads have? So you think the players are made to kneel? Why do you answer everything with a question? It would be a brave kid who didn't kneel You made a statement that you are branded a racist if you domt kneel. I asked a question are they made to.kneel? You’re deliberately obfuscating silverhorns point and you know it. Like has been said, it’s a brave lad who chooses not to kneel. " No I'm not. He said you are branded a racist if you dont kneel How does he know this? I posted a link earlier on which said the players themselves had made the decision. | |||
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"There is probally a debate to be had about how long it continues,but the only thing those bone heads achieved know sat,was making sure its not ending any time soon. There is also the argument that should supporters have a say anyway?They arent being asked to.do anything. It's down to the players. When people say if you don't kneel you are a racist, what choice do these young lads have? So you think the players are made to kneel? Why do you answer everything with a question? It would be a brave kid who didn't kneel You made a statement that you are branded a racist if you domt kneel. I asked a question are they made to.kneel? You’re deliberately obfuscating silverhorns point and you know it. Like has been said, it’s a brave lad who chooses not to kneel. No I'm not. He said you are branded a racist if you dont kneel How does he know this? I posted a link earlier on which said the players themselves had made the decision. " Again, you’re being naive or genuinely dishonest if you think a player would have much of a career left if they didn’t kneel. There’s a lunacy around BLM activism I've never seen before. Emma Watson got harassed for posting 3 black squares on blackout Tuesday instead of 1. It’s madness. That’s the level of mentalist behaviour surrounding this campaign. | |||
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"There is probally a debate to be had about how long it continues,but the only thing those bone heads achieved know sat,was making sure its not ending any time soon. There is also the argument that should supporters have a say anyway?They arent being asked to.do anything. It's down to the players. When people say if you don't kneel you are a racist, what choice do these young lads have? So you think the players are made to kneel? Why do you answer everything with a question? It would be a brave kid who didn't kneel You made a statement that you are branded a racist if you domt kneel. I asked a question are they made to.kneel? You’re deliberately obfuscating silverhorns point and you know it. Like has been said, it’s a brave lad who chooses not to kneel. No I'm not. He said you are branded a racist if you dont kneel How does he know this? I posted a link earlier on which said the players themselves had made the decision. Again, you’re being naive or genuinely dishonest if you think a player would have much of a career left if they didn’t kneel. There’s a lunacy around BLM activism I've never seen before. Emma Watson got harassed for posting 3 black squares on blackout Tuesday instead of 1. It’s madness. That’s the level of mentalist behaviour surrounding this campaign. " Using some crackpots on the internet as an example isnt the most convincing of arguments. I dont know what would happen if a player refused, but I cant see him being out of the game. | |||
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"There is probally a debate to be had about how long it continues,but the only thing those bone heads achieved know sat,was making sure its not ending any time soon. There is also the argument that should supporters have a say anyway?They arent being asked to.do anything. It's down to the players. When people say if you don't kneel you are a racist, what choice do these young lads have? So you think the players are made to kneel? Why do you answer everything with a question? It would be a brave kid who didn't kneel You made a statement that you are branded a racist if you domt kneel. I asked a question are they made to.kneel? You’re deliberately obfuscating silverhorns point and you know it. Like has been said, it’s a brave lad who chooses not to kneel. No I'm not. He said you are branded a racist if you dont kneel How does he know this? I posted a link earlier on which said the players themselves had made the decision. Again, you’re being naive or genuinely dishonest if you think a player would have much of a career left if they didn’t kneel. There’s a lunacy around BLM activism I've never seen before. Emma Watson got harassed for posting 3 black squares on blackout Tuesday instead of 1. It’s madness. That’s the level of mentalist behaviour surrounding this campaign. Using some crackpots on the internet as an example isnt the most convincing of arguments. I dont know what would happen if a player refused, but I cant see him being out of the game." Get real | |||
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"There is probally a debate to be had about how long it continues,but the only thing those bone heads achieved know sat,was making sure its not ending any time soon. There is also the argument that should supporters have a say anyway?They arent being asked to.do anything. It's down to the players. When people say if you don't kneel you are a racist, what choice do these young lads have? So you think the players are made to kneel? Why do you answer everything with a question? It would be a brave kid who didn't kneel You made a statement that you are branded a racist if you domt kneel. I asked a question are they made to.kneel? You’re deliberately obfuscating silverhorns point and you know it. Like has been said, it’s a brave lad who chooses not to kneel. No I'm not. He said you are branded a racist if you dont kneel How does he know this? I posted a link earlier on which said the players themselves had made the decision. Again, you’re being naive or genuinely dishonest if you think a player would have much of a career left if they didn’t kneel. There’s a lunacy around BLM activism I've never seen before. Emma Watson got harassed for posting 3 black squares on blackout Tuesday instead of 1. It’s madness. That’s the level of mentalist behaviour surrounding this campaign. Using some crackpots on the internet as an example isnt the most convincing of arguments. I dont know what would happen if a player refused, but I cant see him being out of the game." Deride and downplay them all you want, they’ve ended the careers of TV and movie stars, sports personalities and no end of people in academia. They’re a small minority of crackpots but they’re vocal and they’re active. And for some reason people in positions of power actually listen to them. Which means they have power. | |||
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"There is probally a debate to be had about how long it continues,but the only thing those bone heads achieved know sat,was making sure its not ending any time soon. There is also the argument that should supporters have a say anyway?They arent being asked to.do anything. It's down to the players. When people say if you don't kneel you are a racist, what choice do these young lads have? So you think the players are made to kneel? Why do you answer everything with a question? It would be a brave kid who didn't kneel You made a statement that you are branded a racist if you domt kneel. I asked a question are they made to.kneel? You’re deliberately obfuscating silverhorns point and you know it. Like has been said, it’s a brave lad who chooses not to kneel. No I'm not. He said you are branded a racist if you dont kneel How does he know this? I posted a link earlier on which said the players themselves had made the decision. Again, you’re being naive or genuinely dishonest if you think a player would have much of a career left if they didn’t kneel. There’s a lunacy around BLM activism I've never seen before. Emma Watson got harassed for posting 3 black squares on blackout Tuesday instead of 1. It’s madness. That’s the level of mentalist behaviour surrounding this campaign. Using some crackpots on the internet as an example isnt the most convincing of arguments. I dont know what would happen if a player refused, but I cant see him being out of the game. Deride and downplay them all you want, they’ve ended the careers of TV and movie stars, sports personalities and no end of people in academia. They’re a small minority of crackpots but they’re vocal and they’re active. And for some reason people in positions of power actually listen to them. Which means they have power. " Who's careers have been ended? | |||
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"There is probally a debate to be had about how long it continues,but the only thing those bone heads achieved know sat,was making sure its not ending any time soon. There is also the argument that should supporters have a say anyway?They arent being asked to.do anything. It's down to the players. When people say if you don't kneel you are a racist, what choice do these young lads have? So you think the players are made to kneel? Why do you answer everything with a question? It would be a brave kid who didn't kneel You made a statement that you are branded a racist if you domt kneel. I asked a question are they made to.kneel? You’re deliberately obfuscating silverhorns point and you know it. Like has been said, it’s a brave lad who chooses not to kneel. No I'm not. He said you are branded a racist if you dont kneel How does he know this? I posted a link earlier on which said the players themselves had made the decision. Again, you’re being naive or genuinely dishonest if you think a player would have much of a career left if they didn’t kneel. There’s a lunacy around BLM activism I've never seen before. Emma Watson got harassed for posting 3 black squares on blackout Tuesday instead of 1. It’s madness. That’s the level of mentalist behaviour surrounding this campaign. Using some crackpots on the internet as an example isnt the most convincing of arguments. I dont know what would happen if a player refused, but I cant see him being out of the game. Get real " James maclean has consistently refused to wear a poppy and his career hasn't ended. | |||
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"Lionel do you think there are no racist footballers? " I've absolutely no idea. By the law of averages there must be 1 or 2. | |||
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"Lionel do you think there are no racist footballers? I've absolutely no idea. By the law of averages there must be 1 or 2." So if they are why are they taking the knee? | |||
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"Lionel do you think there are no racist footballers? I've absolutely no idea. By the law of averages there must be 1 or 2. So if they are why are they taking the knee? " Maybe they dont want their teammates knowing they are bigots? | |||
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"Lionel do you think there are no racist footballers? I've absolutely no idea. By the law of averages there must be 1 or 2. So if they are why are they taking the knee? Maybe they dont want their teammates knowing they are bigots?" So what is the point of taking the knee | |||
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"Lionel do you think there are no racist footballers? I've absolutely no idea. By the law of averages there must be 1 or 2. So if they are why are they taking the knee? Maybe they dont want their teammates knowing they are bigots? So what is the point of taking the knee " It's the same here. Kneeling during the national anthem is a paradox. You kneel you are not a racist but you stand for what the anthem is and being a Patriotic you are labeled as a racist. Sports have a huge impact on society to the point that it's more of a political tool now instead of being what is. | |||
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"Lionel do you think there are no racist footballers? I've absolutely no idea. By the law of averages there must be 1 or 2. So if they are why are they taking the knee? Maybe they dont want their teammates knowing they are bigots? So what is the point of taking the knee " You would have to ask them | |||
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"Lionel do you think there are no racist footballers? I've absolutely no idea. By the law of averages there must be 1 or 2. So if they are why are they taking the knee? Maybe they dont want their teammates knowing they are bigots? So what is the point of taking the knee It's the same here. Kneeling during the national anthem is a paradox. You kneel you are not a racist but you stand for what the anthem is and being a Patriotic you are labeled as a racist. Sports have a huge impact on society to the point that it's more of a political tool now instead of being what is." So anyone who stands for the star spangled bamner is labelled a racist? | |||
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"Lionel do you think there are no racist footballers? I've absolutely no idea. By the law of averages there must be 1 or 2. So if they are why are they taking the knee? Maybe they dont want their teammates knowing they are bigots? So what is the point of taking the knee You would have to ask them " Who is them? I'm asking you. If racists are taking the knee to protect their jobs or to hide their racism then what is the point of it? | |||
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"Lionel do you think there are no racist footballers? I've absolutely no idea. By the law of averages there must be 1 or 2. So if they are why are they taking the knee? Maybe they dont want their teammates knowing they are bigots? So what is the point of taking the knee It's the same here. Kneeling during the national anthem is a paradox. You kneel you are not a racist but you stand for what the anthem is and being a Patriotic you are labeled as a racist. Sports have a huge impact on society to the point that it's more of a political tool now instead of being what is. So anyone who stands for the star spangled bamner is labelled a racist?" Yes because we disagree with that message "kneeling "is sending. Been called it BLACK people we served with been called it. Uncle Tom ect.... Sports are not a political arena. The kneeling and standing is just creating more divide just to make a point by so called social justice warriors who have everything. | |||
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"Lionel do you think there are no racist footballers? I've absolutely no idea. By the law of averages there must be 1 or 2. So if they are why are they taking the knee? Maybe they dont want their teammates knowing they are bigots? So what is the point of taking the knee You would have to ask them Who is them? I'm asking you. If racists are taking the knee to protect their jobs or to hide their racism then what is the point of it? " Ha ha how would I know? You are asking me why a theoretical group of people are doing something they dont too? My guess is if you come out as a racist in any type of job there will be issues. | |||
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"Lionel do you think there are no racist footballers? I've absolutely no idea. By the law of averages there must be 1 or 2. So if they are why are they taking the knee? Maybe they dont want their teammates knowing they are bigots? So what is the point of taking the knee It's the same here. Kneeling during the national anthem is a paradox. You kneel you are not a racist but you stand for what the anthem is and being a Patriotic you are labeled as a racist. Sports have a huge impact on society to the point that it's more of a political tool now instead of being what is. So anyone who stands for the star spangled bamner is labelled a racist? Yes because we disagree with that message "kneeling "is sending. Been called it BLACK people we served with been called it. Uncle Tom ect.... Sports are not a political arena. The kneeling and standing is just creating more divide just to make a point by so called social justice warriors who have everything. " Sports and politics have always been interlinked | |||
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"Lionel do you think there are no racist footballers? I've absolutely no idea. By the law of averages there must be 1 or 2. So if they are why are they taking the knee? Maybe they dont want their teammates knowing they are bigots? So what is the point of taking the knee You would have to ask them Who is them? I'm asking you. If racists are taking the knee to protect their jobs or to hide their racism then what is the point of it? Ha ha how would I know? You are asking me why a theoretical group of people are doing something they dont too? My guess is if you come out as a racist in any type of job there will be issues." So if you don't take the knee you are a racist? | |||
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"Lionel do you think there are no racist footballers? I've absolutely no idea. By the law of averages there must be 1 or 2. So if they are why are they taking the knee? Maybe they dont want their teammates knowing they are bigots? So what is the point of taking the knee You would have to ask them Who is them? I'm asking you. If racists are taking the knee to protect their jobs or to hide their racism then what is the point of it? Ha ha how would I know? You are asking me why a theoretical group of people are doing something they dont too? My guess is if you come out as a racist in any type of job there will be issues. So if you don't take the knee you are a racist? " Well as I said nothing of the sort no..but admirable attempt. | |||
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"Lionel do you think there are no racist footballers? I've absolutely no idea. By the law of averages there must be 1 or 2. So if they are why are they taking the knee? Maybe they dont want their teammates knowing they are bigots? So what is the point of taking the knee You would have to ask them Who is them? I'm asking you. If racists are taking the knee to protect their jobs or to hide their racism then what is the point of it? Ha ha how would I know? You are asking me why a theoretical group of people are doing something they dont too? My guess is if you come out as a racist in any type of job there will be issues. So if you don't take the knee you are a racist? Well as I said nothing of the sort no..but admirable attempt." Well what is it that you are actually saying? | |||
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"Lionel do you think there are no racist footballers? I've absolutely no idea. By the law of averages there must be 1 or 2. So if they are why are they taking the knee? Maybe they dont want their teammates knowing they are bigots? So what is the point of taking the knee You would have to ask them Who is them? I'm asking you. If racists are taking the knee to protect their jobs or to hide their racism then what is the point of it? Ha ha how would I know? You are asking me why a theoretical group of people are doing something they dont too? My guess is if you come out as a racist in any type of job there will be issues. So if you don't take the knee you are a racist? Well as I said nothing of the sort no..but admirable attempt. Well what is it that you are actually saying? " You are the one who is asking questions about theoretical racist footy players. | |||
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"Lionel do you think there are no racist footballers? I've absolutely no idea. By the law of averages there must be 1 or 2. So if they are why are they taking the knee? Maybe they dont want their teammates knowing they are bigots? So what is the point of taking the knee You would have to ask them Who is them? I'm asking you. If racists are taking the knee to protect their jobs or to hide their racism then what is the point of it? Ha ha how would I know? You are asking me why a theoretical group of people are doing something they dont too? My guess is if you come out as a racist in any type of job there will be issues. So if you don't take the knee you are a racist? " Sports were designed to bring everyone together for a common cause. Now sports are being utilized more as a huge political tool. One day everyone gets together as 1 race for a common bond to escape rigors of everyday life.But they can't escape now no matter what side you on. | |||
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"Lionel do you think there are no racist footballers? I've absolutely no idea. By the law of averages there must be 1 or 2. So if they are why are they taking the knee? Maybe they dont want their teammates knowing they are bigots? So what is the point of taking the knee You would have to ask them Who is them? I'm asking you. If racists are taking the knee to protect their jobs or to hide their racism then what is the point of it? Ha ha how would I know? You are asking me why a theoretical group of people are doing something they dont too? My guess is if you come out as a racist in any type of job there will be issues. So if you don't take the knee you are a racist? Sports were designed to bring everyone together for a common cause. Now sports are being utilized more as a huge political tool. One day everyone gets together as 1 race for a common bond to escape rigors of everyday life.But they can't escape now no matter what side you on." | |||
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"Lionel do you think there are no racist footballers? I've absolutely no idea. By the law of averages there must be 1 or 2. So if they are why are they taking the knee? Maybe they dont want their teammates knowing they are bigots? So what is the point of taking the knee You would have to ask them Who is them? I'm asking you. If racists are taking the knee to protect their jobs or to hide their racism then what is the point of it? Ha ha how would I know? You are asking me why a theoretical group of people are doing something they dont too? My guess is if you come out as a racist in any type of job there will be issues. So if you don't take the knee you are a racist? Well as I said nothing of the sort no..but admirable attempt. Well what is it that you are actually saying? You are the one who is asking questions about theoretical racist footy players. " And you are the one who said that coming out as racist in any kind of job has issues, equating not taking the knee with coming out as racist | |||
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"Lionel do you think there are no racist footballers? I've absolutely no idea. By the law of averages there must be 1 or 2. So if they are why are they taking the knee? Maybe they dont want their teammates knowing they are bigots? So what is the point of taking the knee You would have to ask them Who is them? I'm asking you. If racists are taking the knee to protect their jobs or to hide their racism then what is the point of it? Ha ha how would I know? You are asking me why a theoretical group of people are doing something they dont too? My guess is if you come out as a racist in any type of job there will be issues. So if you don't take the knee you are a racist? Well as I said nothing of the sort no..but admirable attempt. Well what is it that you are actually saying? You are the one who is asking questions about theoretical racist footy players. And you are the one who said that coming out as racist in any kind of job has issues, equating not taking the knee with coming out as racist " You dont think it will? If you announce to all and sundry, wherever you work,you are a racist, I'm guessing you may encounter a few issues. | |||
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"Lionel do you think there are no racist footballers? I've absolutely no idea. By the law of averages there must be 1 or 2. So if they are why are they taking the knee? Maybe they dont want their teammates knowing they are bigots? So what is the point of taking the knee You would have to ask them Who is them? I'm asking you. If racists are taking the knee to protect their jobs or to hide their racism then what is the point of it? Ha ha how would I know? You are asking me why a theoretical group of people are doing something they dont too? My guess is if you come out as a racist in any type of job there will be issues. So if you don't take the knee you are a racist? Well as I said nothing of the sort no..but admirable attempt. Well what is it that you are actually saying? You are the one who is asking questions about theoretical racist footy players. And you are the one who said that coming out as racist in any kind of job has issues, equating not taking the knee with coming out as racist You dont think it will? If you announce to all and sundry, wherever you work,you are a racist, I'm guessing you may encounter a few issues." So not taking the knee is announcing to all and sundry that you are racist. You are part of the race problem | |||
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"P.S.- Gary Rowett, Millwall manager, speaking before the match about his players - 'moving forward, like a lot of clubs, they would PREFER NOT TO TAKE THE KNEE and actually enact change. They want to be proactive rather than it being a gesture which a lot of clubs are now saying is perhaps empty. That's not my consideration, but they now feel that the gesture is in danger of being empty'. " Did he condone the booing? | |||
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"Welcome to the new world order. Media controlling all aspects of your life. Instead of personal choice and life experiences. You are made to believe that you are a racist no matter your convictions." So the likes of the sun and the mail and the express and the star and sky tv are so 'woke'they make me believe I am a racist? | |||
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"P.S.- Gary Rowett, Millwall manager, speaking before the match about his players - 'moving forward, like a lot of clubs, they would PREFER NOT TO TAKE THE KNEE and actually enact change. They want to be proactive rather than it being a gesture which a lot of clubs are now saying is perhaps empty. That's not my consideration, but they now feel that the gesture is in danger of being empty'. Did he condone the booing? " I don't know. But it begs the question if the players didn't want to do it, who were they booing? | |||
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"P.S.- Gary Rowett, Millwall manager, speaking before the match about his players - 'moving forward, like a lot of clubs, they would PREFER NOT TO TAKE THE KNEE and actually enact change. They want to be proactive rather than it being a gesture which a lot of clubs are now saying is perhaps empty. That's not my consideration, but they now feel that the gesture is in danger of being empty'. " That doesn't support you though, does it. That supports the idea that the players want to see more happen than just kneeling. You and other right wing babies can't even stand the kneeling, imagine your reaction if actual real world changes happened! | |||
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"P.S.- Gary Rowett, Millwall manager, speaking before the match about his players - 'moving forward, like a lot of clubs, they would PREFER NOT TO TAKE THE KNEE and actually enact change. They want to be proactive rather than it being a gesture which a lot of clubs are now saying is perhaps empty. That's not my consideration, but they now feel that the gesture is in danger of being empty'. That doesn't support you though, does it. That supports the idea that the players want to see more happen than just kneeling. You and other right wing babies can't even stand the kneeling, imagine your reaction if actual real world changes happened! " | |||
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"P.S.- Gary Rowett, Millwall manager, speaking before the match about his players - 'moving forward, like a lot of clubs, they would PREFER NOT TO TAKE THE KNEE and actually enact change. They want to be proactive rather than it being a gesture which a lot of clubs are now saying is perhaps empty. That's not my consideration, but they now feel that the gesture is in danger of being empty'. Did he condone the booing? I don't know. But it begs the question if the players didn't want to do it, who were they booing? " They were booing the gesture and their actions have been condemned by the club and the players. | |||
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"P.S.- Gary Rowett, Millwall manager, speaking before the match about his players - 'moving forward, like a lot of clubs, they would PREFER NOT TO TAKE THE KNEE and actually enact change. They want to be proactive rather than it being a gesture which a lot of clubs are now saying is perhaps empty. That's not my consideration, but they now feel that the gesture is in danger of being empty'. Did he condone the booing? I don't know. But it begs the question if the players didn't want to do it, who were they booing? They were booing the gesture and their actions have been condemned by the club and the players." Of course they were booing the gesture! Who told them to do the gesture when they didn't want to???? | |||
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"P.S.- Gary Rowett, Millwall manager, speaking before the match about his players - 'moving forward, like a lot of clubs, they would PREFER NOT TO TAKE THE KNEE and actually enact change. They want to be proactive rather than it being a gesture which a lot of clubs are now saying is perhaps empty. That's not my consideration, but they now feel that the gesture is in danger of being empty'. Did he condone the booing? I don't know. But it begs the question if the players didn't want to do it, who were they booing? They were booing the gesture and their actions have been condemned by the club and the players. Of course they were booing the gesture! Who told them to do the gesture when they didn't want to???? " Completely ignoring the fact that the club as a whole have criticised the booing. | |||
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"Welcome to the new world order. Media controlling all aspects of your life. Instead of personal choice and life experiences. You are made to believe that you are a racist no matter your convictions. So the likes of the sun and the mail and the express and the star and sky tv are so 'woke'they make me believe I am a racist?" So the likes of cnn msn abc nbc because I will refuse to take a knee makes us racists. According to your "woke"media. | |||
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"P.S.- Gary Rowett, Millwall manager, speaking before the match about his players - 'moving forward, like a lot of clubs, they would PREFER NOT TO TAKE THE KNEE and actually enact change. They want to be proactive rather than it being a gesture which a lot of clubs are now saying is perhaps empty. That's not my consideration, but they now feel that the gesture is in danger of being empty'. Did he condone the booing? I don't know. But it begs the question if the players didn't want to do it, who were they booing? They were booing the gesture and their actions have been condemned by the club and the players. Of course they were booing the gesture! Who told them to do the gesture when they didn't want to???? Completely ignoring the fact that the club as a whole have criticised the booing." Well they would do if they were the ones who told the players to kneel wouldn't they | |||
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"P.S.- Gary Rowett, Millwall manager, speaking before the match about his players - 'moving forward, like a lot of clubs, they would PREFER NOT TO TAKE THE KNEE and actually enact change. They want to be proactive rather than it being a gesture which a lot of clubs are now saying is perhaps empty. That's not my consideration, but they now feel that the gesture is in danger of being empty'. Did he condone the booing? I don't know. But it begs the question if the players didn't want to do it, who were they booing? They were booing the gesture and their actions have been condemned by the club and the players. Of course they were booing the gesture! Who told them to do the gesture when they didn't want to???? Completely ignoring the fact that the club as a whole have criticised the booing. Well they would do if they were the ones who told the players to kneel wouldn't they "Making people do these things detracts from the issue. 1 volunteer is worth a thousand being forced | |||
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"P.S.- Gary Rowett, Millwall manager, speaking before the match about his players - 'moving forward, like a lot of clubs, they would PREFER NOT TO TAKE THE KNEE and actually enact change. They want to be proactive rather than it being a gesture which a lot of clubs are now saying is perhaps empty. That's not my consideration, but they now feel that the gesture is in danger of being empty'. Did he condone the booing? I don't know. But it begs the question if the players didn't want to do it, who were they booing? They were booing the gesture and their actions have been condemned by the club and the players. Of course they were booing the gesture! Who told them to do the gesture when they didn't want to???? Completely ignoring the fact that the club as a whole have criticised the booing. Well they would do if they were the ones who told the players to kneel wouldn't they "So what you are saying is..those millwall fans were booing as they want the club to be more proactive in combating racism? | |||
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"P.S.- Gary Rowett, Millwall manager, speaking before the match about his players - 'moving forward, like a lot of clubs, they would PREFER NOT TO TAKE THE KNEE and actually enact change. They want to be proactive rather than it being a gesture which a lot of clubs are now saying is perhaps empty. That's not my consideration, but they now feel that the gesture is in danger of being empty'. Did he condone the booing? I don't know. But it begs the question if the players didn't want to do it, who were they booing? They were booing the gesture and their actions have been condemned by the club and the players. Of course they were booing the gesture! Who told them to do the gesture when they didn't want to???? Completely ignoring the fact that the club as a whole have criticised the booing. Well they would do if they were the ones who told the players to kneel wouldn't they
Making people do these things detracts from the issue. 1 volunteer is worth a thousand being forced"The players initially volunteered to do it. | |||
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"P.S.- Gary Rowett, Millwall manager, speaking before the match about his players - 'moving forward, like a lot of clubs, they would PREFER NOT TO TAKE THE KNEE and actually enact change. They want to be proactive rather than it being a gesture which a lot of clubs are now saying is perhaps empty. That's not my consideration, but they now feel that the gesture is in danger of being empty'. Did he condone the booing? I don't know. But it begs the question if the players didn't want to do it, who were they booing? They were booing the gesture and their actions have been condemned by the club and the players. Of course they were booing the gesture! Who told them to do the gesture when they didn't want to???? Completely ignoring the fact that the club as a whole have criticised the booing. Well they would do if they were the ones who told the players to kneel wouldn't they
So what you are saying is..those millwall fans were booing as they want the club to be more proactive in combating racism?"I would imagine they were booing because they want politics kept out of sport, don't pay to watch players making empty gestures and possibly feel uncomfortable about young players being coerced into doing something they don't want to do. But if you think they are all racist crack on | |||
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"P.S.- Gary Rowett, Millwall manager, speaking before the match about his players - 'moving forward, like a lot of clubs, they would PREFER NOT TO TAKE THE KNEE and actually enact change. They want to be proactive rather than it being a gesture which a lot of clubs are now saying is perhaps empty. That's not my consideration, but they now feel that the gesture is in danger of being empty'. Did he condone the booing? I don't know. But it begs the question if the players didn't want to do it, who were they booing? They were booing the gesture and their actions have been condemned by the club and the players. Of course they were booing the gesture! Who told them to do the gesture when they didn't want to???? Completely ignoring the fact that the club as a whole have criticised the booing. Well they would do if they were the ones who told the players to kneel wouldn't they
So what you are saying is..those millwall fans were booing as they want the club to be more proactive in combating racism?
I would imagine they were booing because they want politics kept out of sport, don't pay to watch players making empty gestures and possibly feel uncomfortable about young players being coerced into doing something they don't want to do. But if you think they are all racist crack on"There was racist motive behind it. If you cant see that you are either naive or condoning what they did. | |||
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"Millwall Supporters Trust have said that the booing was not racially motivated but was in response to the political views of the BLM movement. " Well they rather would wouldnt they? | |||
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"Millwall players will not take the knee in their next home game. Instead they will stand arm in arm with their opponents QPR, and have an anti-racism logo on their shirts. The FA are also investigating a similar incident that happened over the weekend, at Colchester Utds home game. "
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"And west ham too. This is just a start to all the booing" What 3 out of 92? | |||
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"And west ham too. This is just a start to all the booing What 3 out of 92?" Yes 3 out of 92 counts as a start. | |||
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"And west ham too. This is just a start to all the booing What 3 out of 92? Yes 3 out of 92 counts as a start." Only a fraction of games had fans attending at the weekend. Notice that the three games mentioned are South and East of the London area. | |||
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"And west ham too. This is just a start to all the booing What 3 out of 92? Yes 3 out of 92 counts as a start." A start to what exactly? Racist booing? | |||
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"And west ham too. This is just a start to all the booing What 3 out of 92? Yes 3 out of 92 counts as a start. A start to what exactly? Racist booing?" Booing to players taking the knee Keep up! | |||
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"And west ham too. This is just a start to all the booing What 3 out of 92? Yes 3 out of 92 counts as a start. A start to what exactly? Racist booing? Booing to players taking the knee Keep up!" So there was no racist malice there? | |||
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"Millwall players will not take the knee in their next home game. Instead they will stand arm in arm with their opponents QPR, and have an anti-racism logo on their shirts. The FA are also investigating a similar incident that happened over the weekend, at Colchester Utds home game.
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"Why has everyone picked up the ball and run with the idea that those booing were just out and out racists at Millwall? Why can’t it be they’re just sick of the kneeling or the politicisation of their sport? They were booing at NBA games in America. They’ve been booing at cricket over here too. Are they all racists? Did any other clubs boo? West Ham wolf has been told by a mate at the match 1 other club and I'm guessing it wasmt as loud as millwall. Millwall have a history of racism All clubs have a history of racism. Racism was a part of football for decades. I’ve heard some of the worst racial abuse of my life at an Everton match I was dragged to just a couple of years ago. " I agree with this. Which is why more needs to be done about racism in the game. The FA are a joke. Pointing fingers towards Eastern Europe while being quiet about affairs on our own doorstep. If taking the knee has done anything, it's encouraged the conversation which needs to had. | |||
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"Millwall Supporters Trust have said that the booing was not racially motivated but was in response to the political views of the BLM movement. " They're suggesting there is a fine line between booing people who are making a gesture in support of those who are fighting institutional racism, and a more direct form of racism? The political view of the BLM movement is that racism is bad. | |||
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"Millwall Supporters Trust have said that the booing was not racially motivated but was in response to the political views of the BLM movement. They're suggesting there is a fine line between booing people who are making a gesture in support of those who are fighting institutional racism, and a more direct form of racism? The political view of the BLM movement is that racism is bad." And what else? | |||
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"Lets see what the aftermath is of the PSG game in Paris tonight. " they should refuse to pay only when it’s costing money will something be done about it | |||
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"A racist lineman "Believe its actually the Romanian fourth official. When asked by the referee on who to book, replied with "the n****r" All alleged at the moment. | |||
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"A racist lineman
Believe its actually the Romanian fourth official.
When asked by the referee on who to book, replied with "the n****r"
All alleged at the moment. "The daft racist. The utd game is much more entertaining | |||
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"A racist lineman
Believe its actually the Romanian fourth official.
When asked by the referee on who to book, replied with "the n****r"
All alleged at the moment. "One report said he'd said "the black guy" when referring to the coach. Have to wait and see what actually happened. | |||
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"A racist lineman
Believe its actually the Romanian fourth official.
When asked by the referee on who to book, replied with "the n****r"
All alleged at the moment.
One report said he'd said "the black guy" when referring to the coach.
Have to wait and see what actually happened. "Thats more likely. Plenty doing the rounds on the news channels at the moment, and I can't believe that anyone could be that stupid. | |||
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"A racist lineman
Believe its actually the Romanian fourth official.
When asked by the referee on who to book, replied with "the n****r"
All alleged at the moment.
One report said he'd said "the black guy" when referring to the coach.
Have to wait and see what actually happened.
Thats more likely. Plenty doing the rounds on the news channels at the moment, and I can't believe that anyone could be that stupid. "The Romanian for black is negru | |||
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"A racist lineman
Believe its actually the Romanian fourth official.
When asked by the referee on who to book, replied with "the n****r"
All alleged at the moment.
One report said he'd said "the black guy" when referring to the coach.
Have to wait and see what actually happened.
Thats more likely. Plenty doing the rounds on the news channels at the moment, and I can't believe that anyone could be that stupid.
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"A racist lineman
Believe its actually the Romanian fourth official.
When asked by the referee on who to book, replied with "the n****r"
All alleged at the moment. "Could have said the player's name or number. Name on the shirt, number usually on shirt and shorts... Just saying... | |||
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