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"Just a thought lived in London a few years back for a few years and it seems encouraged to be proud of where you are from... Jamaica, Ireland, New Zealand but from what ive seen the minute someone says they are proud or boast about Englishness its unacceptable? And why the hell dont the English celebrate St Georges day properly.. Seems the general public in my opinion regard the St Georges flag as a right wing symbol which is total ballix its like saying the IRA own the Irish flag... Thoughts? Oh aye just before someone says about well the British empire did this or that, we know this but that dosent really answer the question as anyone could give many examples from many nations on past mistakes... Thoughts? " Is it really unacceptable to be proud of being English ? | |||
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"Thats the feeling and opinion i got in London... Attitude changed around it. " I am proud to be English but I know the difference between being proud of your nationality and thinking that your nation is better than everyone else . | |||
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"As im sure most English would say or most nationalities would say. " The English are this millennium's losers they are out of Europe, a long gone Empire run by a bumbler and nothing to look forward to they have good reason not to have much pride in their country sop you cant blame them really. | |||
"As im sure most English would say or most nationalities would say. The English are this millennium's losers they are out of Europe, a long gone Empire run by a bumbler and nothing to look forward to they have good reason not to have much pride in their country sop you cant blame them really. " And you have Trump or Biden as your 2 best picks for president  | |||
"As im sure most English would say or most nationalities would say. The English are this millennium's losers they are out of Europe, a long gone Empire run by a bumbler and nothing to look forward to they have good reason not to have much pride in their country sop you cant blame them really. And you have Trump or Biden as your 2 best picks for president "Love it so funny you can't stick to the topic fuck more faces than big ben. The act of someone in a failing nation bitter about it thanks for proving my point.  | |||
"As im sure most English would say or most nationalities would say. The English are this millennium's losers they are out of Europe, a long gone Empire run by a bumbler and nothing to look forward to they have good reason not to have much pride in their country sop you cant blame them really. And you have Trump or Biden as your 2 best picks for president
Love it so funny you can't stick to the topic fuck more faces than big ben. The act of someone in a failing nation bitter about it thanks for proving my point. "Look at all those retarded Trump supporters at his rallies who still think he has won, it must be really embarrassing to be an American | |||
"As im sure most English would say or most nationalities would say. The English are this millennium's losers they are out of Europe, a long gone Empire run by a bumbler and nothing to look forward to they have good reason not to have much pride in their country sop you cant blame them really. And you have Trump or Biden as your 2 best picks for president
Love it so funny you can't stick to the topic fuck more faces than big ben. The act of someone in a failing nation bitter about it thanks for proving my point.
Look at all those retarded Trump supporters at his rallies who still think he has won, it must be really embarrassing to be an American "Under your skin under your skin! I hear the only thing more embarrassing than not being able to have pride in your country is admiring you are a manchurian that must be a bitter pill being both. Bite that hook boy bite bite bite.  | |||
"As im sure most English would say or most nationalities would say. The English are this millennium's losers they are out of Europe, a long gone Empire run by a bumbler and nothing to look forward to they have good reason not to have much pride in their country sop you cant blame them really. And you have Trump or Biden as your 2 best picks for president
Love it so funny you can't stick to the topic fuck more faces than big ben. The act of someone in a failing nation bitter about it thanks for proving my point.
Look at all those retarded Trump supporters at his rallies who still think he has won, it must be really embarrassing to be an American
Under your skin under your skin! I hear the only thing more embarrassing than not being able to have pride in your country is admiring you are a manchurian that must be a bitter pill being both.
Bite that hook boy bite bite bite. "I saw a clip of Donald’s ‘press conference’ earlier, omfg , was he really your president for the last 4 years, imagine having him in charge | |||
"As im sure most English would say or most nationalities would say. The English are this millennium's losers they are out of Europe, a long gone Empire run by a bumbler and nothing to look forward to they have good reason not to have much pride in their country sop you cant blame them really. And you have Trump or Biden as your 2 best picks for president
Love it so funny you can't stick to the topic fuck more faces than big ben. The act of someone in a failing nation bitter about it thanks for proving my point.
Look at all those retarded Trump supporters at his rallies who still think he has won, it must be really embarrassing to be an American
Under your skin under your skin! I hear the only thing more embarrassing than not being able to have pride in your country is admiring you are a manchurian that must be a bitter pill being both.
Bite that hook boy bite bite bite.
I saw a clip of Donald’s ‘press conference’ earlier, omfg , was he really your president for the last 4 years, imagine having him in charge "Bite that hook boy bite bite bite. | |||
Mate to be fair England has a door thats older than the constitution of America... Kinda feels like im telling you to respect your elders haha... But England has much to be proud off. | |||
"As im sure most English would say or most nationalities would say. The English are this millennium's losers they are out of Europe, a long gone Empire run by a bumbler and nothing to look forward to they have good reason not to have much pride in their country sop you cant blame them really. And you have Trump or Biden as your 2 best picks for president
Love it so funny you can't stick to the topic fuck more faces than big ben. The act of someone in a failing nation bitter about it thanks for proving my point.
Look at all those retarded Trump supporters at his rallies who still think he has won, it must be really embarrassing to be an American
Under your skin under your skin! I hear the only thing more embarrassing than not being able to have pride in your country is admiring you are a manchurian that must be a bitter pill being both.
Bite that hook boy bite bite bite. "What is a manchurian? is it similar to a Mandalorian? | |||
"As im sure most English would say or most nationalities would say. The English are this millennium's losers they are out of Europe, a long gone Empire run by a bumbler and nothing to look forward to they have good reason not to have much pride in their country sop you cant blame them really. And you have Trump or Biden as your 2 best picks for president
Love it so funny you can't stick to the topic fuck more faces than big ben. The act of someone in a failing nation bitter about it thanks for proving my point.
Look at all those retarded Trump supporters at his rallies who still think he has won, it must be really embarrassing to be an American
Under your skin under your skin! I hear the only thing more embarrassing than not being able to have pride in your country is admiring you are a manchurian that must be a bitter pill being both.
Bite that hook boy bite bite bite.
I saw a clip of Donald’s ‘press conference’ earlier, omfg , was he really your president for the last 4 years, imagine having him in charge
Bite that hook boy bite bite bite. "Has you president conceded yet? I hope he keep this going until January 21st, it is comedy gold | |||
"You went from zero to hero with both replies what happen there
Mate to be fair England has a door thats older than the constitution of America... Kinda feels like im telling you to respect your elders haha... But England has much to be proud off. "The Americas were populated long long before the British Isles you know. Surely you are not that lacking in knowledge? People lived here for thousands of years surly you are not introverted and bigoted not to realise people lived here before people arrived from Europe? It sure looks that way. | |||
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"Maybe you could actually read what i wrote the american constitution. Yes im well aware the natives were there well before your people came across from well... EUROPE lmao" Don’t be to harsh on him, he seems obsessed with any thread that mentions Brexit, he doesn’t actually contribute to the debate but just repeats the same trolling post , bless | |||
"Maybe you could actually read what i wrote the american constitution. Yes im well aware the natives were there well before your people came across from well... EUROPE lmao" Seems you can't read though maybe I s should refer to the UK as an infantile nation as you are exiting the EU I mean it all starts with solo trading in Jan 2021. Naaa people lived here for thousands of years only someone who is uneducated would think the nation started with the European invasion but then there are some people who are uneducated. | |||
"Just a thought lived in London a few years back for a few years and it seems encouraged to be proud of where you are from... Jamaica, Ireland, New Zealand but from what ive seen the minute someone says they are proud or boast about Englishness its unacceptable? And why the hell dont the English celebrate St Georges day properly.. Seems the general public in my opinion regard the St Georges flag as a right wing symbol which is total ballix its like saying the IRA own the Irish flag... Thoughts? Oh aye just before someone says about well the British empire did this or that, we know this but that dosent really answer the question as anyone could give many examples from many nations on past mistakes... Thoughts? " One issue is that the far right have taken the St George's cross as their banner. So if you see someone waving one. You generally assume they're going to some kind of BNP/EDL/UKIP foreigners out kind of march. As was mentioned, there's nothing wrong with appriciating the good things about where you're from, and it can foster a sense of community, IE when following national sports teams. But it gets silly sometimes and it's not good when it gets to the extent that you think you're superior for it. | |||
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"Mate you are hopelessly American lol " Don’t feed him and he will go away, he craves attention, bless | |||
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"Mate you are hopelessly American lol " Well it could be worse I could be hopelessly English.
In reality we are a mixed nation that's the best thing about here we have people from all over and have welcomed others for century's. Granted we have had idiots like Trump who wants to exclude more but that's far fewer than people realise most welcome people coming here we even put up with the English lobsters coming to the theme parks over here you can't be any more patient as a nation than that. | |||
"I was proud to be British until that tw@ Johnson became PM" That shouldn't effect your national pride though its the country you should have pride in not your leader. | |||
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"Just a thought lived in London a few years back for a few years and it seems encouraged to be proud of where you are from... Jamaica, Ireland, New Zealand but from what ive seen the minute someone says they are proud or boast about Englishness its unacceptable? And why the hell dont the English celebrate St Georges day properly.. Seems the general public in my opinion regard the St Georges flag as a right wing symbol " Most of my friends are English & very proud to be Im not sure what it would say about them if they weren't. Most are against injustice though . A couple are closet bigots . I dont see many who think the Catholic St George's cross is an offensive flag at all. Nor the Union flag 3 beatified Catholic saints ( Andrew David George) & 1 who isnt a real catholic saint ( Patrick ) who is recognised as bringing catholicism to Ireland. St Georges day celebrations would very much go against a protestnat nations celebrations . Why would the Queen celebrate a Catholic as she isnt one ? | |||
"Agree but thats really not only an english pride thing irish scottish welsh even that american does it. As for the St Georges flag its funny as people in England see it as the right wing banner but in reality people that have had the issues with past colonialism take issue with the Union flag and not the St George flag. " Is more national pride a good thing, do we want US style patriotism in England? It can be used by the government to control and influence the government. | |||
" It can be used by the government to control and influence the government." Thats a Double Negative surely ? | |||
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"I just think patriotism is so small minded and sad. You were born on a particular bit of the earth, and therefore you have to think your bit of earth is superior, and see people born on other bits of earth as inferior? How about we recognise humans from everywhere are basically the same, and if we worked together the planet could be so much better. " And us small minded ones developed and advanced humanity by being patriots. | |||
"As im sure most English would say or most nationalities would say. The English are this millennium's losers they are out of Europe, a long gone Empire run by a bumbler and nothing to look forward to they have good reason not to have much pride in their country sop you cant blame them really. And you have Trump or Biden as your 2 best picks for president
Love it so funny you can't stick to the topic fuck more faces than big ben. The act of someone in a failing nation bitter about it thanks for proving my point. "I was glad Trump was president. While he was in office we didn't quite have the biggest bafoon in the world running our country. Population of 300 million and those were the best two candidates? Talk about scrapping the barrel? Thank goodness for the vice president elect, at least ther'll be some integrity brought back to the office with luck after the posturing of the present incumbent who is hanging on by the fingernails in a desperate attempt to stay out of jail | |||
"I just think patriotism is so small minded and sad. You were born on a particular bit of the earth, and therefore you have to think your bit of earth is superior, and see people born on other bits of earth as inferior? How about we recognise humans from everywhere are basically the same, and if we worked together the planet could be so much better. " Patriotism is not thinking that your piece of the earth is superior at all. This is the problem, so many people believe this kind of rubbish | |||
" And us small minded ones developed and advanced humanity by being patriots." | |||
"I just think patriotism is so small minded and sad. You were born on a particular bit of the earth, and therefore you have to think your bit of earth is superior, and see people born on other bits of earth as inferior? How about we recognise humans from everywhere are basically the same, and if we worked together the planet could be so much better. And us small minded ones developed and advanced humanity by being patriots." What does that actually mean?  | |||
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"As im sure most English would say or most nationalities would say. The English are this millennium's losers they are out of Europe, a long gone Empire run by a bumbler and nothing to look forward to they have good reason not to have much pride in their country sop you cant blame them really. And you have Trump or Biden as your 2 best picks for president
Love it so funny you can't stick to the topic fuck more faces than big ben. The act of someone in a failing nation bitter about it thanks for proving my point.
Look at all those retarded Trump supporters at his rallies who still think he has won, it must be really embarrassing to be an American
Under your skin under your skin! I hear the only thing more embarrassing than not being able to have pride in your country is admiring you are a manchurian that must be a bitter pill being both.
Bite that hook boy bite bite bite.
What is a manchurian? is it similar to a Mandalorian? "
I wandered that | |||
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" It can be used by the government to control and influence the government. Thats a Double Negative surely ?" Double fat thumbs. *By the government | |||
"I just think patriotism is so small minded and sad. You were born on a particular bit of the earth, and therefore you have to think your bit of earth is superior, and see people born on other bits of earth as inferior? How about we recognise humans from everywhere are basically the same, and if we worked together the planet could be so much better. And us small minded ones developed and advanced humanity by being patriots. What does that actually mean? "I'm interested in a further explaination of this point too. | |||
"I just think patriotism is so small minded and sad. You were born on a particular bit of the earth, and therefore you have to think your bit of earth is superior, and see people born on other bits of earth as inferior? How about we recognise humans from everywhere are basically the same, and if we worked together the planet could be so much better. "
I remember greta having trump off on Twitter when he was going on about being a patriot
And she said to achieve anything like climate change,we must work together. | |||
"I just think patriotism is so small minded and sad. You were born on a particular bit of the earth, and therefore you have to think your bit of earth is superior, and see people born on other bits of earth as inferior? How about we recognise humans from everywhere are basically the same, and if we worked together the planet could be so much better.
I remember greta having trump off on Twitter when he was going on about being a patriot
And she said to achieve anything like climate change,we must work together."What has working together got to do with being a patriot? If you actually knew the meaning of the word chances are you would probably realise that you are one too | |||
"I just think patriotism is so small minded and sad. You were born on a particular bit of the earth, and therefore you have to think your bit of earth is superior, and see people born on other bits of earth as inferior? How about we recognise humans from everywhere are basically the same, and if we worked together the planet could be so much better.
I remember greta having trump off on Twitter when he was going on about being a patriot
And she said to achieve anything like climate change,we must work together.
What has working together got to do with being a patriot? If you actually knew the meaning of the word chances are you would probably realise that you are one too"Because she said she was an internationalist not a patriot | |||
"I just think patriotism is so small minded and sad. You were born on a particular bit of the earth, and therefore you have to think your bit of earth is superior, and see people born on other bits of earth as inferior? How about we recognise humans from everywhere are basically the same, and if we worked together the planet could be so much better.
I remember greta having trump off on Twitter when he was going on about being a patriot
And she said to achieve anything like climate change,we must work together.
What has working together got to do with being a patriot? If you actually knew the meaning of the word chances are you would probably realise that you are one too
Because she said she was an internationalist not a patriot "You can be both  | |||
"I just think patriotism is so small minded and sad. You were born on a particular bit of the earth, and therefore you have to think your bit of earth is superior, and see people born on other bits of earth as inferior? How about we recognise humans from everywhere are basically the same, and if we worked together the planet could be so much better.
I remember greta having trump off on Twitter when he was going on about being a patriot
And she said to achieve anything like climate change,we must work together.
What has working together got to do with being a patriot? If you actually knew the meaning of the word chances are you would probably realise that you are one too
Because she said she was an internationalist not a patriot
You can be both "Is trump both? | |||
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"I just think patriotism is so small minded and sad. You were born on a particular bit of the earth, and therefore you have to think your bit of earth is superior, and see people born on other bits of earth as inferior? How about we recognise humans from everywhere are basically the same, and if we worked together the planet could be so much better.
I remember greta having trump off on Twitter when he was going on about being a patriot
And she said to achieve anything like climate change,we must work together.
What has working together got to do with being a patriot? If you actually knew the meaning of the word chances are you would probably realise that you are one too
Because she said she was an internationalist not a patriot
You can be both
Is trump both?"You'd have to ask him. But he works with other countries on some things doesn't he? So what do you think that makes him? | |||
"IT was about a speech at the in where he denounced globalism and said he was a patriot." He's right to denounce globalism and in particular unequal globalism. But that is not the same as internationalism and working together | |||
"I just think patriotism is so small minded and sad. You were born on a particular bit of the earth, and therefore you have to think your bit of earth is superior, and see people born on other bits of earth as inferior? How about we recognise humans from everywhere are basically the same, and if we worked together the planet could be so much better.
I remember greta having trump off on Twitter when he was going on about being a patriot
And she said to achieve anything like climate change,we must work together.
What has working together got to do with being a patriot? If you actually knew the meaning of the word chances are you would probably realise that you are one too
Because she said she was an internationalist not a patriot
You can be both
Is trump both?
You'd have to ask him. But he works with other countries on some things doesn't he? So what do you think that makes him? "I'd say someone like trump was the opposite of an internationalist hence his american 1st rhetoric. | |||
"I just think patriotism is so small minded and sad. You were born on a particular bit of the earth, and therefore you have to think your bit of earth is superior, and see people born on other bits of earth as inferior? How about we recognise humans from everywhere are basically the same, and if we worked together the planet could be so much better.
I remember greta having trump off on Twitter when he was going on about being a patriot
And she said to achieve anything like climate change,we must work together.
What has working together got to do with being a patriot? If you actually knew the meaning of the word chances are you would probably realise that you are one too
Because she said she was an internationalist not a patriot
You can be both
Is trump both?
You'd have to ask him. But he works with other countries on some things doesn't he? So what do you think that makes him?
I'd say someone like trump was the opposite of an internationalist hence his american 1st rhetoric."OK so I must have dreamt that the Pfizer vaccine was a joint American - German project | |||
"I just think patriotism is so small minded and sad. You were born on a particular bit of the earth, and therefore you have to think your bit of earth is superior, and see people born on other bits of earth as inferior? How about we recognise humans from everywhere are basically the same, and if we worked together the planet could be so much better.
I remember greta having trump off on Twitter when he was going on about being a patriot
And she said to achieve anything like climate change,we must work together.
What has working together got to do with being a patriot? If you actually knew the meaning of the word chances are you would probably realise that you are one too
Because she said she was an internationalist not a patriot
You can be both
Is trump both?
You'd have to ask him. But he works with other countries on some things doesn't he? So what do you think that makes him?
I'd say someone like trump was the opposite of an internationalist hence his american 1st rhetoric.
OK so I must have dreamt that the Pfizer vaccine was a joint American - German project "You are giving credit for a vaccine to the man who continually denied the existence and then dangers of corona? And you think trump is an internationalist? | |||
"I just think patriotism is so small minded and sad. You were born on a particular bit of the earth, and therefore you have to think your bit of earth is superior, and see people born on other bits of earth as inferior? How about we recognise humans from everywhere are basically the same, and if we worked together the planet could be so much better.
I remember greta having trump off on Twitter when he was going on about being a patriot
And she said to achieve anything like climate change,we must work together.
What has working together got to do with being a patriot? If you actually knew the meaning of the word chances are you would probably realise that you are one too
Because she said she was an internationalist not a patriot
You can be both
Is trump both?
You'd have to ask him. But he works with other countries on some things doesn't he? So what do you think that makes him?
I'd say someone like trump was the opposite of an internationalist hence his american 1st rhetoric.
OK so I must have dreamt that the Pfizer vaccine was a joint American - German project
You are giving credit for a vaccine to the man who continually denied the existence and then dangers of corona?
And you think trump is an internationalist?"No I'm not giving him credit but he could have stopped them working together couldn't he? | |||
"I just think patriotism is so small minded and sad. You were born on a particular bit of the earth, and therefore you have to think your bit of earth is superior, and see people born on other bits of earth as inferior? How about we recognise humans from everywhere are basically the same, and if we worked together the planet could be so much better.
I remember greta having trump off on Twitter when he was going on about being a patriot
And she said to achieve anything like climate change,we must work together.
What has working together got to do with being a patriot? If you actually knew the meaning of the word chances are you would probably realise that you are one too
Because she said she was an internationalist not a patriot
You can be both
Is trump both?
You'd have to ask him. But he works with other countries on some things doesn't he? So what do you think that makes him?
I'd say someone like trump was the opposite of an internationalist hence his american 1st rhetoric.
OK so I must have dreamt that the Pfizer vaccine was a joint American - German project
You are giving credit for a vaccine to the man who continually denied the existence and then dangers of corona?
And you think trump is an internationalist?
No I'm not giving him credit but he could have stopped them working together couldn't he? "Its sounds like it. Is trump an internationalist? | |||
"I just think patriotism is so small minded and sad. You were born on a particular bit of the earth, and therefore you have to think your bit of earth is superior, and see people born on other bits of earth as inferior? How about we recognise humans from everywhere are basically the same, and if we worked together the planet could be so much better.
I remember greta having trump off on Twitter when he was going on about being a patriot
And she said to achieve anything like climate change,we must work together.
What has working together got to do with being a patriot? If you actually knew the meaning of the word chances are you would probably realise that you are one too
Because she said she was an internationalist not a patriot
You can be both
Is trump both?
You'd have to ask him. But he works with other countries on some things doesn't he? So what do you think that makes him?
I'd say someone like trump was the opposite of an internationalist hence his american 1st rhetoric.
OK so I must have dreamt that the Pfizer vaccine was a joint American - German project
You are giving credit for a vaccine to the man who continually denied the existence and then dangers of corona?
And you think trump is an internationalist?
No I'm not giving him credit but he could have stopped them working together couldn't he?
Its sounds like it.
Is trump an internationalist?"I said you'd have to ask him but considering that America works alongside other countries on certain issues you would have to say yes. I think you are confusing internationalism with globalism, which is just left wing thinking communist bollocks | |||
"I just think patriotism is so small minded and sad. You were born on a particular bit of the earth, and therefore you have to think your bit of earth is superior, and see people born on other bits of earth as inferior? How about we recognise humans from everywhere are basically the same, and if we worked together the planet could be so much better.
I remember greta having trump off on Twitter when he was going on about being a patriot
And she said to achieve anything like climate change,we must work together.
What has working together got to do with being a patriot? If you actually knew the meaning of the word chances are you would probably realise that you are one too
Because she said she was an internationalist not a patriot
You can be both
Is trump both?
You'd have to ask him. But he works with other countries on some things doesn't he? So what do you think that makes him?
I'd say someone like trump was the opposite of an internationalist hence his american 1st rhetoric.
OK so I must have dreamt that the Pfizer vaccine was a joint American - German project
You are giving credit for a vaccine to the man who continually denied the existence and then dangers of corona?
And you think trump is an internationalist?
No I'm not giving him credit but he could have stopped them working together couldn't he?
Its sounds like it.
Is trump an internationalist?
I said you'd have to ask him but considering that America works alongside other countries on certain issues you would have to say yes. I think you are confusing internationalism with globalism, which is just left wing thinking communist bollocks "Course it is. All of the great internatinionalists in history have built a wall to keep out people from its neighbouring country. | |||
"I just think patriotism is so small minded and sad. You were born on a particular bit of the earth, and therefore you have to think your bit of earth is superior, and see people born on other bits of earth as inferior? How about we recognise humans from everywhere are basically the same, and if we worked together the planet could be so much better.
I remember greta having trump off on Twitter when he was going on about being a patriot
And she said to achieve anything like climate change,we must work together.
What has working together got to do with being a patriot? If you actually knew the meaning of the word chances are you would probably realise that you are one too
Because she said she was an internationalist not a patriot
You can be both
Is trump both?
You'd have to ask him. But he works with other countries on some things doesn't he? So what do you think that makes him?
I'd say someone like trump was the opposite of an internationalist hence his american 1st rhetoric.
OK so I must have dreamt that the Pfizer vaccine was a joint American - German project
You are giving credit for a vaccine to the man who continually denied the existence and then dangers of corona?
And you think trump is an internationalist?
No I'm not giving him credit but he could have stopped them working together couldn't he?
Its sounds like it.
Is trump an internationalist?
I said you'd have to ask him but considering that America works alongside other countries on certain issues you would have to say yes. I think you are confusing internationalism with globalism, which is just left wing thinking communist bollocks
Course it is.
All of the great internatinionalists in history have built a wall to keep out people from its neighbouring country.
"And it is only the great globalists that have built a wall to keep their own people in | |||
"I just think patriotism is so small minded and sad. You were born on a particular bit of the earth, and therefore you have to think your bit of earth is superior, and see people born on other bits of earth as inferior? How about we recognise humans from everywhere are basically the same, and if we worked together the planet could be so much better.
I remember greta having trump off on Twitter when he was going on about being a patriot
And she said to achieve anything like climate change,we must work together.
What has working together got to do with being a patriot? If you actually knew the meaning of the word chances are you would probably realise that you are one too
Because she said she was an internationalist not a patriot
You can be both
Is trump both?
You'd have to ask him. But he works with other countries on some things doesn't he? So what do you think that makes him?
I'd say someone like trump was the opposite of an internationalist hence his american 1st rhetoric.
OK so I must have dreamt that the Pfizer vaccine was a joint American - German project
You are giving credit for a vaccine to the man who continually denied the existence and then dangers of corona?
And you think trump is an internationalist?
No I'm not giving him credit but he could have stopped them working together couldn't he?
Its sounds like it.
Is trump an internationalist?
I said you'd have to ask him but considering that America works alongside other countries on certain issues you would have to say yes. I think you are confusing internationalism with globalism, which is just left wing thinking communist bollocks
Course it is.
All of the great internatinionalists in history have built a wall to keep out people from its neighbouring country.
And it is only the great globalists that have built a wall to keep their own people in "Another bizarre argument | |||
"I just think patriotism is so small minded and sad. You were born on a particular bit of the earth, and therefore you have to think your bit of earth is superior, and see people born on other bits of earth as inferior? How about we recognise humans from everywhere are basically the same, and if we worked together the planet could be so much better.
I remember greta having trump off on Twitter when he was going on about being a patriot
And she said to achieve anything like climate change,we must work together.
What has working together got to do with being a patriot? If you actually knew the meaning of the word chances are you would probably realise that you are one too
Because she said she was an internationalist not a patriot
You can be both
Is trump both?
You'd have to ask him. But he works with other countries on some things doesn't he? So what do you think that makes him?
I'd say someone like trump was the opposite of an internationalist hence his american 1st rhetoric.
OK so I must have dreamt that the Pfizer vaccine was a joint American - German project
You are giving credit for a vaccine to the man who continually denied the existence and then dangers of corona?
And you think trump is an internationalist?
No I'm not giving him credit but he could have stopped them working together couldn't he?
Its sounds like it.
Is trump an internationalist?
I said you'd have to ask him but considering that America works alongside other countries on certain issues you would have to say yes. I think you are confusing internationalism with globalism, which is just left wing thinking communist bollocks
Course it is.
All of the great internatinionalists in history have built a wall to keep out people from its neighbouring country.
And it is only the great globalists that have built a wall to keep their own people in
Another bizarre argument "Globalism and Communism believe in free movement and a world without borders blah blah blah, yet it is only communists who had to build a wall to keep their own people in. Anyway, we are going off the point a bit. Are you patriotic? | |||
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"Back on topic people have a right to be patriotic. Just as people have a right to be unpatriotic,without being told to fuck off elsewhere. There is a fine line however between patriotism and xenophobia. " No, there isn't. If you don't want to answer the question that's fine | |||
"Back on topic people have a right to be patriotic. Just as people have a right to be unpatriotic,without being told to fuck off elsewhere. There is a fine line however between patriotism and xenophobia. No, there isn't. If you don't want to answer the question that's fine " Not particularly There are lots of things to be proud of in this country (ironically a lot of them ,some people have disdain for) But there is a lot of things I dislike. | |||
"Patriotism at times fine, objectively looking at what we do well and what we don't fine but Nationalism no.." patriotism can be being proud of the things we've achieved but more than that, as Wiki describes it, it is a feeling of love and devotion and sense of attachment to a homeland and an alliance with people who share the same sentiment and values etc. Nationalism no. Finally we agree on something  | |||
"Patriotism at times fine, objectively looking at what we do well and what we don't fine but Nationalism no.. patriotism can be being proud of the things we've achieved but more than that, as Wiki describes it, it is a feeling of love and devotion and sense of attachment to a homeland and an alliance with people who share the same sentiment and values etc. Nationalism no. Finally we agree on something "Could never live anywhere else.. See, common ground.. | |||
"Back on topic people have a right to be patriotic. Just as people have a right to be unpatriotic,without being told to fuck off elsewhere. There is a fine line however between patriotism and xenophobia. No, there isn't. If you don't want to answer the question that's fine Not particularly There are lots of things to be proud of in this country (ironically a lot of them ,some people have disdain for) But there is a lot of things I dislike." Most, but not all, of the things to be proud about this country are being dismantled or eroded by the Tories and/or Brexit. | |||
"I am not from the UK. I will never understand the seethe that some people feel about being from the UK. Yes it’s understandable that they may feel shame from the past but in some it goes beyond that. They are only happy when it rains. This Country despite its flaws is something to be proud of. Trust me it can be a lot worse. I love it here. " I don’t think they do feel ashamed they just like to claim they do it’s just fashionable at the moment and anyone who doesn’t see it there way are labelled a little englander I’m proud to be English and there’s fuck all wrong with that lol | |||
"Back on topic people have a right to be patriotic. Just as people have a right to be unpatriotic,without being told to fuck off elsewhere. There is a fine line however between patriotism and xenophobia. No, there isn't. If you don't want to answer the question that's fine Not particularly There are lots of things to be proud of in this country (ironically a lot of them ,some people have disdain for) But there is a lot of things I dislike. Most, but not all, of the things to be proud about this country are being dismantled or eroded by the Tories and/or Brexit. " | |||
"I am not from the UK. I will never understand the seethe that some people feel about being from the UK. Yes it’s understandable that they may feel shame from the past but in some it goes beyond that. They are only happy when it rains. This Country despite its flaws is something to be proud of. Trust me it can be a lot worse. I love it here. I don’t think they do feel ashamed they just like to claim they do it’s just fashionable at the moment and anyone who doesn’t see it there way are labelled a little englander I’m proud to be English and there’s fuck all wrong with that lol" I am proud to be English but it is important to celebrate what makes us great whilst acknowledging the mistakes we have made . | |||
"I am not from the UK. I will never understand the seethe that some people feel about being from the UK. Yes it’s understandable that they may feel shame from the past but in some it goes beyond that. They are only happy when it rains. This Country despite its flaws is something to be proud of. Trust me it can be a lot worse. I love it here. I don’t think they do feel ashamed they just like to claim they do it’s just fashionable at the moment and anyone who doesn’t see it there way are labelled a little englander I’m proud to be English and there’s fuck all wrong with that lol I am proud to be English but it is important to celebrate what makes us great whilst acknowledging the mistakes we have made . " when do we celebrate what makes us great ? What day is that then ? And how often should we acknowledge the mistakes of the past ? | |||
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"I am not from the UK. I will never understand the seethe that some people feel about being from the UK. Yes it’s understandable that they may feel shame from the past but in some it goes beyond that. They are only happy when it rains. This Country despite its flaws is something to be proud of. Trust me it can be a lot worse. I love it here. I don’t think they do feel ashamed they just like to claim they do it’s just fashionable at the moment and anyone who doesn’t see it there way are labelled a little englander I’m proud to be English and there’s fuck all wrong with that lol" Fair enough But if people think differently, that should be respected | |||
"I am not from the UK. I will never understand the seethe that some people feel about being from the UK. Yes it’s understandable that they may feel shame from the past but in some it goes beyond that. They are only happy when it rains. This Country despite its flaws is something to be proud of. Trust me it can be a lot worse. I love it here. I don’t think they do feel ashamed they just like to claim they do it’s just fashionable at the moment and anyone who doesn’t see it there way are labelled a little englander I’m proud to be English and there’s fuck all wrong with that lol I am proud to be English but it is important to celebrate what makes us great whilst acknowledging the mistakes we have made . when do we celebrate what makes us great ? What day is that then ? And how often should we acknowledge the mistakes of the past ?" Why do you need a ‘specific ‘ day? You can acknowledge the mistakes (past and present ) as often as you like there isn’t a minimum or maximum requirement | |||
"I only take issue when insincere people try to focus ONLY on our past when as we all know every nation has got things in it's past they could be ashamed of " Are there many of them about. Most people who are critical of the British Empire, are still able to be proud that the country has the NHS, as an example. | |||
"I am not from the UK. I will never understand the seethe that some people feel about being from the UK. Yes it’s understandable that they may feel shame from the past but in some it goes beyond that. They are only happy when it rains. This Country despite its flaws is something to be proud of. Trust me it can be a lot worse. I love it here. I don’t think they do feel ashamed they just like to claim they do it’s just fashionable at the moment and anyone who doesn’t see it there way are labelled a little englander I’m proud to be English and there’s fuck all wrong with that lol I am proud to be English but it is important to celebrate what makes us great whilst acknowledging the mistakes we have made . when do we celebrate what makes us great ? What day is that then ? And how often should we acknowledge the mistakes of the past ? Why do you need a ‘specific ‘ day? You can acknowledge the mistakes (past and present ) as often as you like there isn’t a minimum or maximum requirement "you said it’s important to celebrate it well if it’s important why don’t we have a bank holiday to celebrate it like other country’s the Irish do st Patrick’s say it’s all over the news it’s one of the best celebrations ever it’s something to be proud of wouldn’t you like to see the English do the same ? or should we hang our heads in Shame and acknowledge orur failings maybe have a bank holiday for that so we don’t upset anyone ? | |||
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"I will just sit back read your comments and shake my head. I am proud being a patriot. This thread is like beating a dead horse." Why is it a positive thing to be patriotic? (I'm not saying it's not, just interested in the reasoning). | |||
"I am not from the UK. I will never understand the seethe that some people feel about being from the UK. Yes it’s understandable that they may feel shame from the past but in some it goes beyond that. They are only happy when it rains. This Country despite its flaws is something to be proud of. Trust me it can be a lot worse. I love it here. I don’t think they do feel ashamed they just like to claim they do it’s just fashionable at the moment and anyone who doesn’t see it there way are labelled a little englander I’m proud to be English and there’s fuck all wrong with that lol I am proud to be English but it is important to celebrate what makes us great whilst acknowledging the mistakes we have made . when do we celebrate what makes us great ? What day is that then ? And how often should we acknowledge the mistakes of the past ? Why do you need a ‘specific ‘ day? You can acknowledge the mistakes (past and present ) as often as you like there isn’t a minimum or maximum requirement you said it’s important to celebrate it well if it’s important why don’t we have a bank holiday to celebrate it like other country’s the Irish do st Patrick’s say it’s all over the news it’s one of the best celebrations ever it’s something to be proud of wouldn’t you like to see the English do the same ? or should we hang our heads in Shame and acknowledge orur failings maybe have a bank holiday for that so we don’t upset anyone ?"I'm up for an extra bank holiday either way! | |||
"Just a thought lived in London a few years back for a few years and it seems encouraged to be proud of where you are from... Jamaica, Ireland, New Zealand but from what ive seen the minute someone says they are proud or boast about Englishness its unacceptable? " You're highlighting people who are immigrants celebrating their background. Worldwide where British/English ex-pats come together they happily do the same to celebrate their home country | |||
"I will just sit back read your comments and shake my head. I am proud being a patriot. This thread is like beating a dead horse. Why is it a positive thing to be patriotic? (I'm not saying it's not, just interested in the reasoning)." It's the glue that holds nations together. This election proved otherwise. Being "Patriotic" this year is being painted by the media as being evil. I don't mind being evil . We truly seen evil this is not it. So I will fly my flag and hope for the best. I watched friends die for that fabric everyone want to paint as a great evil. One person's concept on life can benefit by seeing true tyranny and evil. I like knowing if there was a hint a glimpse of making someone's life better at the cost of my life and the sacrafice of others it is well worth being a "Patriot". | |||
"I am not from the UK. I will never understand the seethe that some people feel about being from the UK. Yes it’s understandable that they may feel shame from the past but in some it goes beyond that. They are only happy when it rains. This Country despite its flaws is something to be proud of. Trust me it can be a lot worse. I love it here. I don’t think they do feel ashamed they just like to claim they do it’s just fashionable at the moment and anyone who doesn’t see it there way are labelled a little englander I’m proud to be English and there’s fuck all wrong with that lol I am proud to be English but it is important to celebrate what makes us great whilst acknowledging the mistakes we have made . when do we celebrate what makes us great ? What day is that then ? And how often should we acknowledge the mistakes of the past ?" Every day when I walk I celebrate the beauty all around, even on yukky days I am grateful to have been born here.. | |||
"I am not from the UK. I will never understand the seethe that some people feel about being from the UK. Yes it’s understandable that they may feel shame from the past but in some it goes beyond that. They are only happy when it rains. This Country despite its flaws is something to be proud of. Trust me it can be a lot worse. I love it here. I don’t think they do feel ashamed they just like to claim they do it’s just fashionable at the moment and anyone who doesn’t see it there way are labelled a little englander I’m proud to be English and there’s fuck all wrong with that lol I am proud to be English but it is important to celebrate what makes us great whilst acknowledging the mistakes we have made . when do we celebrate what makes us great ? What day is that then ? And how often should we acknowledge the mistakes of the past ? Every day when I walk I celebrate the beauty all around, even on yukky days I am grateful to have been born here.. "yep me too its a great country. | |||
"I am not from the UK. I will never understand the seethe that some people feel about being from the UK. Yes it’s understandable that they may feel shame from the past but in some it goes beyond that. They are only happy when it rains. This Country despite its flaws is something to be proud of. Trust me it can be a lot worse. I love it here. I don’t think they do feel ashamed they just like to claim they do it’s just fashionable at the moment and anyone who doesn’t see it there way are labelled a little englander I’m proud to be English and there’s fuck all wrong with that lol I am proud to be English but it is important to celebrate what makes us great whilst acknowledging the mistakes we have made . when do we celebrate what makes us great ? What day is that then ? And how often should we acknowledge the mistakes of the past ? Every day when I walk I celebrate the beauty all around, even on yukky days I am grateful to have been born here.. yep me too its a great country. "Like yourself I live in Suffolk and I love it here. Nowhere else I'd rather live | |||
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"I think most agree that Patriotism is a good thing and not sad at all. I think a lot of 'left' leaning people and media would do well to learn the difference between Patriotism and Chauvinism " I think it's important to not tar everyone of whatever political hue with generalized assumptions.. We can at times all be guilty of it.. | |||
"I think most agree that Patriotism is a good thing and not sad at all. I think a lot of 'left' leaning people and media would do well to learn the difference between Patriotism and Chauvinism I think it's important to not tar everyone of whatever political hue with generalized assumptions.. We can at times all be guilty of it.." Sorry true, not all. I've just never heard anyone on the right criticise patriotism | |||
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"I think most agree that Patriotism is a good thing and not sad at all. I think a lot of 'left' leaning people and media would do well to learn the difference between Patriotism and Chauvinism I think it's important to not tar everyone of whatever political hue with generalized assumptions.. We can at times all be guilty of it.. Sorry true, not all. I've just never heard anyone on the right criticise patriotism " My father in law did when he saw the thugs wearing the cross of St George kicking off during one of the Euros, called them mindless vermin soiling the cloth.. | |||
"So in the end run I choose patriotism over vanity. We becoming a nation that forgets what core values are when celebrities are worshiped is more important. No real hero's to lead or idolize. Just what is on tv." Think that's a global issue if it is an issue, the celebrity culture is a puzzle sometimes but let's be honest history tells us that some of those who were idolised or given hero status turned out to be at times pretty shit people or acted in a way that fell short of what was and is acceptable.. | |||
"So in the end run I choose patriotism over vanity. We becoming a nation that forgets what core values are when celebrities are worshiped is more important. No real hero's to lead or idolize. Just what is on tv. Think that's a global issue if it is an issue, the celebrity culture is a puzzle sometimes but let's be honest history tells us that some of those who were idolised or given hero status turned out to be at times pretty shit people or acted in a way that fell short of what was and is acceptable.." We from idolizing scientific achievements political achievements and humanity achievements to what are the Kardashians up to today. We will keep our patriotic pride intact to me it's for greater good. | |||
"I am not from the UK. I will never understand the seethe that some people feel about being from the UK. Yes it’s understandable that they may feel shame from the past but in some it goes beyond that. They are only happy when it rains. This Country despite its flaws is something to be proud of. Trust me it can be a lot worse. I love it here. I don’t think they do feel ashamed they just like to claim they do it’s just fashionable at the moment and anyone who doesn’t see it there way are labelled a little englander I’m proud to be English and there’s fuck all wrong with that lol I am proud to be English but it is important to celebrate what makes us great whilst acknowledging the mistakes we have made . when do we celebrate what makes us great ? What day is that then ? And how often should we acknowledge the mistakes of the past ? Every day when I walk I celebrate the beauty all around, even on yukky days I am grateful to have been born here.. yep me too its a great country.
Like yourself I live in Suffolk and I love it here. Nowhere else I'd rather live "I am talking about Britain as a whole,yes suffolk is ok but i would much prefer to live back in London unfortunately i burnt that bridge when i moved out long ago.  | |||
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"I am not from the UK. I will never understand the seethe that some people feel about being from the UK. Yes it’s understandable that they may feel shame from the past but in some it goes beyond that. They are only happy when it rains. This Country despite its flaws is something to be proud of. Trust me it can be a lot worse. I love it here. I don’t think they do feel ashamed they just like to claim they do it’s just fashionable at the moment and anyone who doesn’t see it there way are labelled a little englander I’m proud to be English and there’s fuck all wrong with that lol I am proud to be English but it is important to celebrate what makes us great whilst acknowledging the mistakes we have made . when do we celebrate what makes us great ? What day is that then ? And how often should we acknowledge the mistakes of the past ? Every day when I walk I celebrate the beauty all around, even on yukky days I am grateful to have been born here.. yep me too its a great country.
Like yourself I live in Suffolk and I love it here. Nowhere else I'd rather live I am talking about Britain as a whole,yes suffolk is ok but i would much prefer to live back in London unfortunately i burnt that bridge when i moved out long ago. "costa come north mate trust me when a southerner comes north they never go back ppl actually talk to each other up here you’ll love it lol | |||
"I will just sit back read your comments and shake my head. I am proud being a patriot. This thread is like beating a dead horse. Why is it a positive thing to be patriotic? (I'm not saying it's not, just interested in the reasoning). It's the glue that holds nations together. This election proved otherwise. Being "Patriotic" this year is being painted by the media as being evil. I don't mind being evil . We truly seen evil this is not it. So I will fly my flag and hope for the best. I watched friends die for that fabric everyone want to paint as a great evil. One person's concept on life can benefit by seeing true tyranny and evil. I like knowing if there was a hint a glimpse of making someone's life better at the cost of my life and the sacrafice of others it is well worth being a "Patriot"." hats of to ya | |||
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"Yes I am, what is nationalism? Is it about loving your country or believing that your country is the greatest on earth? Yes it is ok to have your flag up "Ours is always flying. | |||
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" And us small minded ones developed and advanced humanity by being patriots. "Operation warp speed paid brought to you by US government and american tax dollars. | |||
"Yes I am, what is nationalism? Is it about loving your country or believing that your country is the greatest on earth? Yes it is ok to have your flag up
Ours is always flying. "That is good | |||
"I am not from the UK. I will never understand the seethe that some people feel about being from the UK. Yes it’s understandable that they may feel shame from the past but in some it goes beyond that. They are only happy when it rains. This Country despite its flaws is something to be proud of. Trust me it can be a lot worse. I love it here. I don’t think they do feel ashamed they just like to claim they do it’s just fashionable at the moment and anyone who doesn’t see it there way are labelled a little englander I’m proud to be English and there’s fuck all wrong with that lol" Well put. I was born here but my parents were not. They always reminded me how poorer our lives would have been had they not been saved by this fabulous country. Sure there were difficult times but compared to many other places its heaven. Fly the flag, be proud, be patriotic and remember how lucky we all are | |||
"I am not from the UK. I will never understand the seethe that some people feel about being from the UK. Yes it’s understandable that they may feel shame from the past but in some it goes beyond that. They are only happy when it rains. This Country despite its flaws is something to be proud of. Trust me it can be a lot worse. I love it here. I don’t think they do feel ashamed they just like to claim they do it’s just fashionable at the moment and anyone who doesn’t see it there way are labelled a little englander I’m proud to be English and there’s fuck all wrong with that lol Well put. I was born here but my parents were not. They always reminded me how poorer our lives would have been had they not been saved by this fabulous country. Sure there were difficult times but compared to many other places its heaven. Fly the flag, be proud, be patriotic and remember how lucky we all are" | |||
" And us small minded ones developed and advanced humanity by being patriots.
Operation warp speed paid brought to you by US government and american tax dollars. "So Donald had nothing to with it then ! You're welcome | |||
" And us small minded ones developed and advanced humanity by being patriots.
Operation warp speed paid brought to you by US government and american tax dollars.
So Donald had nothing to with it then !
You're welcome
". Scary right that the DOD is running the show. A US General.aka a Patriot. | |||
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"I am not from the UK. I will never understand the seethe that some people feel about being from the UK. Yes it’s understandable that they may feel shame from the past but in some it goes beyond that. They are only happy when it rains. This Country despite its flaws is something to be proud of. Trust me it can be a lot worse. I love it here. I don’t think they do feel ashamed they just like to claim they do it’s just fashionable at the moment and anyone who doesn’t see it there way are labelled a little englander I’m proud to be English and there’s fuck all wrong with that lol I am proud to be English but it is important to celebrate what makes us great whilst acknowledging the mistakes we have made . when do we celebrate what makes us great ? What day is that then ? And how often should we acknowledge the mistakes of the past ? Every day when I walk I celebrate the beauty all around, even on yukky days I am grateful to have been born here.. yep me too its a great country.
Like yourself I live in Suffolk and I love it here. Nowhere else I'd rather live I am talking about Britain as a whole,yes suffolk is ok but i would much prefer to live back in London unfortunately i burnt that bridge when i moved out long ago. costa come north mate trust me when a southerner comes north they never go back ppl actually talk to each other up here you’ll love it lol" | |||
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"As im sure most English would say or most nationalities would say. The English are this millennium's losers they are out of Europe, a long gone Empire run by a bumbler and nothing to look forward to they have good reason not to have much pride in their country sop you cant blame them really. And you have Trump or Biden as your 2 best picks for president " | |||
"Thats a debate for a whole other time about who is British and who is not "im not British | |||
"As im sure most English would say or most nationalities would say. The English are this millennium's losers they are out of Europe, a long gone Empire run by a bumbler and nothing to look forward to they have good reason not to have much pride in their country sop you cant blame them really. And you have Trump or Biden as your 2 best picks for president
Love it so funny you can't stick to the topic fuck more faces than big ben. The act of someone in a failing nation bitter about it thanks for proving my point. "Let's face it, Trump has made the US the laughing stock of the world. I would have preferred to stay in Europe but am confident that we be fine deal or no Deal. I don't see the signs of a failing nation that you talk about. Strangely I would say that although COVID has created a great deal of harm both on an economic and welfare front, as a country we have pulled together to get through and if anything patriotism has increased. I travel in Europe regularly and can tell you that without doubt most of my contacts there are more worried about the UK leaving than we are. As for the US I fear for you with the current COVID situation. Your only chance seems to be a vaccine and more than 40% of the population don't even want it. | |||
" And us small minded ones developed and advanced humanity by being patriots.
Operation warp speed paid brought to you by US government and american tax dollars.
So Donald had nothing to with it then !
You're welcome
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Scary right that the DOD is running the show. A US General.aka a Patriot. "Without Tom Brady the Patriots are Sh*te . No more needs to be Said about Ameakees Patriots . The dynasty is dead | |||
" And us small minded ones developed and advanced humanity by being patriots.
Operation warp speed paid brought to you by US government and american tax dollars.
So Donald had nothing to with it then !
You're welcome
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Scary right that the DOD is running the show. A US General.aka a Patriot.
Without Tom Brady the Patriots are Sh*te .
No more needs to be Said about Ameakees Patriots .
The dynasty is dead ". Steelers fans we have big ben | |||
"I am not from the UK. I will never understand the seethe that some people feel about being from the UK. Yes it’s understandable that they may feel shame from the past but in some it goes beyond that. They are only happy when it rains. This Country despite its flaws is something to be proud of. Trust me it can be a lot worse. I love it here. " I dont know why people feel shame about the UKs past. It wasnt our past, it was our forefathers. Dont blame the sons for the sins of the fathers. | |||
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"I am English & do get slightly annoyed that I cant put that on a form, it always says UK or British, I do not feel I identify as ether, I am English & live in Wales " To an extent I get your point, but you are British. Why not be able to put I’m from Powys, or Norwich instead. England is just a large construct of counties with differing histories. The same goes for Wales and others. I’d quite like to put I’m European, but some buggers screwed that up | |||
" And us small minded ones developed and advanced humanity by being patriots.
Operation warp speed paid brought to you by US government and american tax dollars.
So Donald had nothing to with it then !
You're welcome
.
Scary right that the DOD is running the show. A US General.aka a Patriot.
Without Tom Brady the Patriots are Sh*te .
No more needs to be Said about Ameakees Patriots .
The dynasty is dead .
Steelers fans we have big ben "WHO CARES ITS JUST MESSED UP THROW IT FORWARDS RUGBY !! | |||
" And us small minded ones developed and advanced humanity by being patriots.
Operation warp speed paid brought to you by US government and american tax dollars.
So Donald had nothing to with it then !
You're welcome
.
Scary right that the DOD is running the show. A US General.aka a Patriot.
Without Tom Brady the Patriots are Sh*te .
No more needs to be Said about Ameakees Patriots .
The dynasty is dead .
Steelers fans we have big ben
WHO CARES
ITS JUST MESSED UP THROW IT FORWARDS RUGBY !!"Hugs | |||
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" And us small minded ones developed and advanced humanity by being patriots.
Operation warp speed paid brought to you by US government and american tax dollars.
So Donald had nothing to with it then !
You're welcome
.
Scary right that the DOD is running the show. A US General.aka a Patriot.
Without Tom Brady the Patriots are Sh*te .
No more needs to be Said about Ameakees Patriots .
The dynasty is dead .
Steelers fans we have big ben
WHO CARES
ITS JUST MESSED UP THROW IT FORWARDS RUGBY !!
Hugs "la maith agat | |||
"I am English & do get slightly annoyed that I cant put that on a form, it always says UK or British, I do not feel I identify as ether, I am English & live in Wales " You can actually, I just applied for a new driving licence and I ticked the English box on the DVLA website. | |||
"I am English & do get slightly annoyed that I cant put that on a form, it always says UK or British, I do not feel I identify as ether, I am English & live in Wales To an extent I get your point, but you are British. Why not be able to put I’m from Powys, or Norwich instead. England is just a large construct of counties with differing histories. The same goes for Wales and others. I’d quite like to put I’m European, but some buggers screwed that up " no, they haven't, you're still European | |||
"I am not from the UK. I will never understand the seethe that some people feel about being from the UK. Yes it’s understandable that they may feel shame from the past but in some it goes beyond that. They are only happy when it rains. This Country despite its flaws is something to be proud of. Trust me it can be a lot worse. I love it here. I don’t think they do feel ashamed they just like to claim they do it’s just fashionable at the moment and anyone who doesn’t see it there way are labelled a little englander I’m proud to be English and there’s fuck all wrong with that lol Well put. I was born here but my parents were not. They always reminded me how poorer our lives would have been had they not been saved by this fabulous country. Sure there were difficult times but compared to many other places its heaven. Fly the flag, be proud, be patriotic and remember how lucky we all are" | |||
"I am not from the UK. I will never understand the seethe that some people feel about being from the UK. Yes it’s understandable that they may feel shame from the past but in some it goes beyond that. They are only happy when it rains. This Country despite its flaws is something to be proud of. Trust me it can be a lot worse. I love it here. I don’t think they do feel ashamed they just like to claim they do it’s just fashionable at the moment and anyone who doesn’t see it there way are labelled a little englander I’m proud to be English and there’s fuck all wrong with that lol Well put. I was born here but my parents were not. They always reminded me how poorer our lives would have been had they not been saved by this fabulous country. Sure there were difficult times but compared to many other places its heaven. Fly the flag, be proud, be patriotic and remember how lucky we all are "I have always thought of my nationality as Welsh and only questioned it when a friend pointed out that I had put Welsh instead of British on forms that I was filling in. I didnt change it though as when Im asked my nationality Welsh is what I automatically think. I presumed the Scots Irish and English thought the same but I could be wrong. | |||
"I am not from the UK. I will never understand the seethe that some people feel about being from the UK. Yes it’s understandable that they may feel shame from the past but in some it goes beyond that. They are only happy when it rains. This Country despite its flaws is something to be proud of. Trust me it can be a lot worse. I love it here. I don’t think they do feel ashamed they just like to claim they do it’s just fashionable at the moment and anyone who doesn’t see it there way are labelled a little englander I’m proud to be English and there’s fuck all wrong with that lol Well put. I was born here but my parents were not. They always reminded me how poorer our lives would have been had they not been saved by this fabulous country. Sure there were difficult times but compared to many other places its heaven. Fly the flag, be proud, be patriotic and remember how lucky we all are
I have always thought of my nationality as Welsh and only questioned it when a friend pointed out that I had put Welsh instead of British on forms that I was filling in. I didnt change it though as when Im asked my nationality Welsh is what I automatically think.
I presumed the Scots Irish and English thought the same but I could be wrong.
"I always put British as that would be my nationality. I was born in England so I am English too. I think of myself as being English first tho | |||
"I am not from the UK. I will never understand the seethe that some people feel about being from the UK. Yes it’s understandable that they may feel shame from the past but in some it goes beyond that. They are only happy when it rains. This Country despite its flaws is something to be proud of. Trust me it can be a lot worse. I love it here. I dont know why people feel shame about the UKs past. It wasnt our past, it was our forefathers. Dont blame the sons for the sins of the fathers." Exactly mate people dont keep banging on about the germans and 2 world wars nobody blames the germans of today for that nor should they but brits have to put up with people blaming them for shit that happened hundreds of years ago. | |||
"I am not from the UK. I will never understand the seethe that some people feel about being from the UK. Yes it’s understandable that they may feel shame from the past but in some it goes beyond that. They are only happy when it rains. This Country despite its flaws is something to be proud of. Trust me it can be a lot worse. I love it here. I dont know why people feel shame about the UKs past. It wasnt our past, it was our forefathers. Dont blame the sons for the sins of the fathers.Exactly mate people dont keep banging on about the germans and 2 world wars nobody blames the germans of today for that nor should they but brits have to put up with people blaming them for shit that happened hundreds of years ago. "it’s the brits who keep going on about our evil past never ever mention the good in tne world Britain as done they remind me of the German guy Harry Enfield used to do lol | |||
"I am not from the UK. I will never understand the seethe that some people feel about being from the UK. Yes it’s understandable that they may feel shame from the past but in some it goes beyond that. They are only happy when it rains. This Country despite its flaws is something to be proud of. Trust me it can be a lot worse. I love it here. I dont know why people feel shame about the UKs past. It wasnt our past, it was our forefathers. Dont blame the sons for the sins of the fathers.Exactly mate people dont keep banging on about the germans and 2 world wars nobody blames the germans of today for that nor should they but brits have to put up with people blaming them for shit that happened hundreds of years ago. it’s the brits who keep going on about our evil past never ever mention the good in tne world Britain as done they remind me of the German guy Harry Enfield used to do lol"Try watching almost any documentary on the BBC and notice the hoops they jump through to try and drag slavery into the program The BBC have made it their aim to make the public feel guilty about being British | |||
"I am not from the UK. I will never understand the seethe that some people feel about being from the UK. Yes it’s understandable that they may feel shame from the past but in some it goes beyond that. They are only happy when it rains. This Country despite its flaws is something to be proud of. Trust me it can be a lot worse. I love it here. I dont know why people feel shame about the UKs past. It wasnt our past, it was our forefathers. Dont blame the sons for the sins of the fathers.Exactly mate people dont keep banging on about the germans and 2 world wars nobody blames the germans of today for that nor should they but brits have to put up with people blaming them for shit that happened hundreds of years ago. it’s the brits who keep going on about our evil past never ever mention the good in tne world Britain as done they remind me of the German guy Harry Enfield used to do lol
Try watching almost any documentary on the BBC and notice the hoops they jump through to try and drag slavery into the program
The BBC have made it their aim to make the public feel guilty about being British
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"I am proud to be British although sometimes ashamed of my fellow Britains. Going back my family came from Poland/Russia and the beginning of the 20th century. I was however brought up to be proud of being British and why I should be that has not changed. We are an eccentric nation but overall warm and welcoming we.Less racist than the rest of Europe maybe any nation in the world.We are not perfect and never will be,we do not allways get it right but no others do. There are a lot of anti british.english comments here these idiots should look round laugh at the stupidness of us but apreciate the wonderfull things. Being proud to be British is not about the empire that was these comments only show a lack of intelligence and gross stupidity " well said | |||
"I am not from the UK. I will never understand the seethe that some people feel about being from the UK. Yes it’s understandable that they may feel shame from the past but in some it goes beyond that. They are only happy when it rains. This Country despite its flaws is something to be proud of. Trust me it can be a lot worse. I love it here. I dont know why people feel shame about the UKs past. It wasnt our past, it was our forefathers. Dont blame the sons for the sins of the fathers.Exactly mate people dont keep banging on about the germans and 2 world wars nobody blames the germans of today for that nor should they but brits have to put up with people blaming them for shit that happened hundreds of years ago. it’s the brits who keep going on about our evil past never ever mention the good in tne world Britain as done they remind me of the German guy Harry Enfield used to do lol
Try watching almost any documentary on the BBC and notice the hoops they jump through to try and drag slavery into the program
The BBC have made it their aim to make the public feel guilty about being British
too true. "I actually cancelled my TV licence. Sick of being addressed by the BBC as if I'm some racist, homophobic, xenophobic, misogynist and that the BBC is here to rescue me from my ways | |||
"The way this country has ffone since 2016. I M.ashamed and disgusted of this country " yet you still live here ? | |||
"The way this country has ffone since 2016. I M.ashamed and disgusted of this country " Why what has the country done to make you feel that way? | |||
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"If you didn't like being Patriotic twords your nationality welsh Scot or british. What the point of having named military units to said areas? Tradition to ones nationality ?" Tradition doesn't have to be bound to being patriotic. But it's a good point. The army uses people's patriotism as a recruitment tool. | |||
"The way this country has ffone since 2016. I M.ashamed and disgusted of this country yet you still live here ?" This is a constant theme amongst Brexit supporters, asking why non-compliant type people who express dissent to the establishment still live here. As if people who aren't happy about Brexit should leave. (Which in itself is a paradox, as we removed the freedom of movement with the EU countries). But then what would be left? A country of people who are compliant and do what they're told, supporting the establishment no matter what the cost to themselves! Sounds bleak. | |||
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"The way this country has ffone since 2016. I M.ashamed and disgusted of this country yet you still live here ? This is a constant theme amongst Brexit supporters, asking why non-compliant type people who express dissent to the establishment still live here. As if people who aren't happy about Brexit should leave. (Which in itself is a paradox, as we removed the freedom of movement with the EU countries). But then what would be left? A country of people who are compliant and do what they're told, supporting the establishment no matter what the cost to themselves! Sounds bleak." Agreed it is hard to comprehend some times. That is one of the reasons I love these posts to try and grasp the reasoning. | |||
"The way this country has ffone since 2016. I M.ashamed and disgusted of this country yet you still live here ? This is a constant theme amongst Brexit supporters, asking why non-compliant type people who express dissent to the establishment still live here. As if people who aren't happy about Brexit should leave. (Which in itself is a paradox, as we removed the freedom of movement with the EU countries). But then what would be left? A country of people who are compliant and do what they're told, supporting the establishment no matter what the cost to themselves! Sounds bleak. Agreed it is hard to comprehend some times. That is one of the reasons I love these posts to try and grasp the reasoning." This section of the fab forum isn't necessarily a good cross section of British society. It feels like it's dominated by people to jump on anyone who criticises the government. That's certainly not the case where I live. | |||
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"If you didn't like being Patriotic twords your nationality welsh Scot or british. What the point of having named military units to said areas? Tradition to ones nationality ?" This doesn't really make any sense. I don't know who's said they don't like being patriotic but even if someone has said that I don't understand the correlation between someone not liking to be patriotic and named military units? | |||
"If you didn't like being Patriotic twords your nationality welsh Scot or british. What the point of having named military units to said areas? Tradition to ones nationality ? This doesn't really make any sense. I don't know who's said they don't like being patriotic but even if someone has said that I don't understand the correlation between someone not liking to be patriotic and named military units? " The Royal scots the Royal welsh units have no correlation to a proud heritage based on a different country ? If it wasn't surely it be named something else. | |||
"I am proud to be British although sometimes ashamed of my fellow Britains. Going back my family came from Poland/Russia and the beginning of the 20th century. I was however brought up to be proud of being British and why I should be that has not changed. We are an eccentric nation but overall warm and welcoming we.Less racist than the rest of Europe maybe any nation in the world.We are not perfect and never will be,we do not allways get it right but no others do. There are a lot of anti british.english comments here these idiots should look round laugh at the stupidness of us but apreciate the wonderfull things. Being proud to be British is not about the empire that was these comments only show a lack of intelligence and gross stupidity " | |||
"Patriotism - an outsider's view. Patriotism isn't about the patch of earth you're born on, or even its geographical location. It's about community spirit, whether it be for your street, your village, town, city or country. In the UK you have much to be proud of, things that many may just take for granted. You have the NHS, you have running water that won't kill you when you drink it, you have electricity in your homes for light and heat, you have the ability to march and protest when things aren't right, you have a vote to make things better. So many countries in the world don't have these things, but the UK does. Yes, the UK has much in its past and present that isn't so good - you should be mindful of these things but not ashamed. You have great community spirit - the stereotypical "queueing" is just an example of the politeness and decency the British have, as was the "blitz spirit". There are many countries that are far more racist then the UK who take so few steps to change. You don't have to wave a flag from your rooftops to be patriotic, you just have to be a good person, part of a community of good people and that's something to be proud of." | |||
"Patriotism - an outsider's view. Patriotism isn't about the patch of earth you're born on, or even its geographical location. It's about community spirit, whether it be for your street, your village, town, city or country. In the UK you have much to be proud of, things that many may just take for granted. You have the NHS, you have running water that won't kill you when you drink it, you have electricity in your homes for light and heat, you have the ability to march and protest when things aren't right, you have a vote to make things better. So many countries in the world don't have these things, but the UK does. Yes, the UK has much in its past and present that isn't so good - you should be mindful of these things but not ashamed. You have great community spirit - the stereotypical "queueing" is just an example of the politeness and decency the British have, as was the "blitz spirit". There are many countries that are far more racist then the UK who take so few steps to change. You don't have to wave a flag from your rooftops to be patriotic, you just have to be a good person, part of a community of good people and that's something to be proud of." Well made post and points. | |||
"Patriotism - an outsider's view. Patriotism isn't about the patch of earth you're born on, or even its geographical location. It's about community spirit, whether it be for your street, your village, town, city or country. In the UK you have much to be proud of, things that many may just take for granted. You have the NHS, you have running water that won't kill you when you drink it, you have electricity in your homes for light and heat, you have the ability to march and protest when things aren't right, you have a vote to make things better. So many countries in the world don't have these things, but the UK does. Yes, the UK has much in its past and present that isn't so good - you should be mindful of these things but not ashamed. You have great community spirit - the stereotypical "queueing" is just an example of the politeness and decency the British have, as was the "blitz spirit". There are many countries that are far more racist then the UK who take so few steps to change. You don't have to wave a flag from your rooftops to be patriotic, you just have to be a good person, part of a community of good people and that's something to be proud of." | |||
"Patriotism - an outsider's view. Patriotism isn't about the patch of earth you're born on, or even its geographical location. It's about community spirit, whether it be for your street, your village, town, city or country. In the UK you have much to be proud of, things that many may just take for granted. You have the NHS, you have running water that won't kill you when you drink it, you have electricity in your homes for light and heat, you have the ability to march and protest when things aren't right, you have a vote to make things better. So many countries in the world don't have these things, but the UK does. Yes, the UK has much in its past and present that isn't so good - you should be mindful of these things but not ashamed. You have great community spirit - the stereotypical "queueing" is just an example of the politeness and decency the British have, as was the "blitz spirit". There are many countries that are far more racist then the UK who take so few steps to change. You don't have to wave a flag from your rooftops to be patriotic, you just have to be a good person, part of a community of good people and that's something to be proud of." Great post . Thank you . | |||
"Patriotism - an outsider's view. Patriotism isn't about the patch of earth you're born on, or even its geographical location. It's about community spirit, whether it be for your street, your village, town, city or country. In the UK you have much to be proud of, things that many may just take for granted. You have the NHS, you have running water that won't kill you when you drink it, you have electricity in your homes for light and heat, you have the ability to march and protest when things aren't right, you have a vote to make things better. So many countries in the world don't have these things, but the UK does. Yes, the UK has much in its past and present that isn't so good - you should be mindful of these things but not ashamed. You have great community spirit - the stereotypical "queueing" is just an example of the politeness and decency the British have, as was the "blitz spirit". There are many countries that are far more racist then the UK who take so few steps to change. You don't have to wave a flag from your rooftops to be patriotic, you just have to be a good person, part of a community of good people and that's something to be proud of." | |||
"Patriotism - an outsider's view. Patriotism isn't about the patch of earth you're born on, or even its geographical location. It's about community spirit, whether it be for your street, your village, town, city or country. In the UK you have much to be proud of, things that many may just take for granted. You have the NHS, you have running water that won't kill you when you drink it, you have electricity in your homes for light and heat, you have the ability to march and protest when things aren't right, you have a vote to make things better. So many countries in the world don't have these things, but the UK does. Yes, the UK has much in its past and present that isn't so good - you should be mindful of these things but not ashamed. You have great community spirit - the stereotypical "queueing" is just an example of the politeness and decency the British have, as was the "blitz spirit". There are many countries that are far more racist then the UK who take so few steps to change. You don't have to wave a flag from your rooftops to be patriotic, you just have to be a good person, part of a community of good people and that's something to be proud of. " | |||
"The way this country has ffone since 2016. I M.ashamed and disgusted of this country yet you still live here ? This is a constant theme amongst Brexit supporters, asking why non-compliant type people who express dissent to the establishment still live here. As if people who aren't happy about Brexit should leave. (Which in itself is a paradox, as we removed the freedom of movement with the EU countries). But then what would be left? A country of people who are compliant and do what they're told, supporting the establishment no matter what the cost to themselves! Sounds bleak." wow mate yr normally better than this it wasn’t dissent he said ashamed and disgusted I said yet yr still here if I lived somewhere that made me feel that way I’d be in me bike I said yet yr still here didn’t tell him to do one was waiting for his reply but hey Chuck Brexit into it eh | |||
"Patriotism - an outsider's view. Patriotism isn't about the patch of earth you're born on, or even its geographical location. It's about community spirit, whether it be for your street, your village, town, city or country. In the UK you have much to be proud of, things that many may just take for granted. You have the NHS, you have running water that won't kill you when you drink it, you have electricity in your homes for light and heat, you have the ability to march and protest when things aren't right, you have a vote to make things better. So many countries in the world don't have these things, but the UK does. Yes, the UK has much in its past and present that isn't so good - you should be mindful of these things but not ashamed. You have great community spirit - the stereotypical "queueing" is just an example of the politeness and decency the British have, as was the "blitz spirit". There are many countries that are far more racist then the UK who take so few steps to change. You don't have to wave a flag from your rooftops to be patriotic, you just have to be a good person, part of a community of good people and that's something to be proud of." class | |||
"The way this country has ffone since 2016. I M.ashamed and disgusted of this country yet you still live here ? This is a constant theme amongst Brexit supporters, asking why non-compliant type people who express dissent to the establishment still live here. As if people who aren't happy about Brexit should leave. (Which in itself is a paradox, as we removed the freedom of movement with the EU countries). But then what would be left? A country of people who are compliant and do what they're told, supporting the establishment no matter what the cost to themselves! Sounds bleak.wow mate yr normally better than this it wasn’t dissent he said ashamed and disgusted I said yet yr still here if I lived somewhere that made me feel that way I’d be in me bike I said yet yr still here didn’t tell him to do one was waiting for his reply but hey Chuck Brexit into it eh " The 2016 reference was to Brexit no? As rediculous as brexit is. I don't feel ashamed or disgusted. I just object to the idea that people who don't lie down should bugger off. But yeah fair enough I changed the point to suit something I wanted to say. | |||
"Pride in being English has become a bit embarrassing because of a media stereotype. The white van man in an England football top with St. George's flag outside his house, next to his UKIP banner, yelling 'in-ger-land' at people. It's Bollox but it has become how English pride is portrayed on comedy shows on the telly "Further to my previous post about stereotypes, have you seen the picture of Brexit Man on the Daily Mash? It's Johnson in a string vest with union flag shorts carrying a four pack of special brew and a knotted hanky on his head. | |||
"Pride in being English has become a bit embarrassing because of a media stereotype. The white van man in an England football top with St. George's flag outside his house, next to his UKIP banner, yelling 'in-ger-land' at people. It's Bollox but it has become how English pride is portrayed on comedy shows on the telly
Further to my previous post about stereotypes, have you seen the picture of Brexit Man on the Daily Mash? It's Johnson in a string vest with union flag shorts carrying a four pack of special brew and a knotted hanky on his head."Sounds about right | |||
"Pride in being English has become a bit embarrassing because of a media stereotype. The white van man in an England football top with St. George's flag outside his house, next to his UKIP banner, yelling 'in-ger-land' at people. It's Bollox but it has become how English pride is portrayed on comedy shows on the telly
Further to my previous post about stereotypes, have you seen the picture of Brexit Man on the Daily Mash? It's Johnson in a string vest with union flag shorts carrying a four pack of special brew and a knotted hanky on his head."Did they take that photo when he was on holiday ? | |||
"Pride in being English has become a bit embarrassing because of a media stereotype. The white van man in an England football top with St. George's flag outside his house, next to his UKIP banner, yelling 'in-ger-land' at people. It's Bollox but it has become how English pride is portrayed on comedy shows on the telly
Further to my previous post about stereotypes, have you seen the picture of Brexit Man on the Daily Mash? It's Johnson in a string vest with union flag shorts carrying a four pack of special brew and a knotted hanky on his head.
Did they take that photo when he was on holiday ? " | |||
