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Boris has lowered the UK demands on fishing, says he will now accept 60% quota handback, previously the absolute red line was 80%. Meanwhile the EU is offering 16%....
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"Boris has lowered the UK demands on fishing, says he will now accept 60% quota handback, previously the absolute red line was 80%. Meanwhile the EU is offering 16%....
So how low will Boris go? Anyone up for a Fab sweepstake?"
50-50 |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"Boris has lowered the UK demands on fishing, says he will now accept 60% quota handback, previously the absolute red line was 80%. Meanwhile the EU is offering 16%....
So how low will Boris go? Anyone up for a Fab sweepstake?"
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"Boris has lowered the UK demands on fishing, says he will now accept 60% quota handback, previously the absolute red line was 80%. Meanwhile the EU is offering 16%....
So how low will Boris go? Anyone up for a Fab sweepstake?"
No it was always 60% british owned vessels, 60% british crewed and 60% of all catches landed in the uk not sure where your 80% came from.  |
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"Boris has lowered the UK demands on fishing, says he will now accept 60% quota handback, previously the absolute red line was 80%. Meanwhile the EU is offering 16%....
So how low will Boris go? Anyone up for a Fab sweepstake?No it was always 60% british owned vessels, 60% british crewed and 60% of all catches landed in the uk not sure where your 80% came from. "
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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This from the 16th may on the bbc, the gardian as usual trying to kick up shit.  Brexit trade deal: Who really owns UK fishing quotas? - BBC ...
www.bbc.co.uk › news
16 May 2020 — The EU's Common Fisheries Policy (CFP) sets quotas among EU member ... boats "are required to land more of their catch in UK ports, and return more ... 60% British-crewed; (and must) land, process and sell 60% of their ...
this is the bit you need to read Fishing for Leave wants to change the rules so all British fishing vessels must be "60% British-owned; 60% British-crewed; (and must) land, process and sell 60% of their catches in Britain".
this was reported in MAY.
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"This from the 16th may on the bbc, the gardian as usual trying to kick up shit. Brexit trade deal: Who really owns UK fishing quotas? - BBC ...
www.bbc.co.uk › news
16 May 2020 — The EU's Common Fisheries Policy (CFP) sets quotas among EU member ... boats "are required to land more of their catch in UK ports, and return more ... 60% British-crewed; (and must) land, process and sell 60% of their ...
this is the bit you need to read Fishing for Leave wants to change the rules so all British fishing vessels must be "60% British-owned; 60% British-crewed; (and must) land, process and sell 60% of their catches in Britain".
this was reported in MAY.
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By *ostafunMan
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"This from the 16th may on the bbc, the gardian as usual trying to kick up shit. Brexit trade deal: Who really owns UK fishing quotas? - BBC ...
www.bbc.co.uk › news
16 May 2020 — The EU's Common Fisheries Policy (CFP) sets quotas among EU member ... boats "are required to land more of their catch in UK ports, and return more ... 60% British-crewed; (and must) land, process and sell 60% of their ...
this is the bit you need to read Fishing for Leave wants to change the rules so all British fishing vessels must be "60% British-owned; 60% British-crewed; (and must) land, process and sell 60% of their catches in Britain".
this was reported in MAY.
So 60% is the red line, any lower and it’s a no deal? "
I have no idea mate im not part of fishing for Britain but thats what was reported by the bbc back in may,Barnier could be saying it was 80% and he has got it down to 60% to make it look like he won or the uk wanted 60% and told him it was 80% so they got what they wanted who knows but if they are both happy its a step nearer to a deal. |
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"This from the 16th may on the bbc, the gardian as usual trying to kick up shit. Brexit trade deal: Who really owns UK fishing quotas? - BBC ...
www.bbc.co.uk › news
16 May 2020 — The EU's Common Fisheries Policy (CFP) sets quotas among EU member ... boats "are required to land more of their catch in UK ports, and return more ... 60% British-crewed; (and must) land, process and sell 60% of their ...
this is the bit you need to read Fishing for Leave wants to change the rules so all British fishing vessels must be "60% British-owned; 60% British-crewed; (and must) land, process and sell 60% of their catches in Britain".
this was reported in MAY.
So 60% is the red line, any lower and it’s a no deal? I have no idea mate im not part of fishing for Britain but thats what was reported by the bbc back in may,Barnier could be saying it was 80% and he has got it down to 60% to make it look like he won or the uk wanted 60% and told him it was 80% so they got what they wanted who knows but if they are both happy its a step nearer to a deal."
I agree, 60% seems a fair deal, where did the original 80% figure come from? |
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By *ostafunMan
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"This from the 16th may on the bbc, the gardian as usual trying to kick up shit. Brexit trade deal: Who really owns UK fishing quotas? - BBC ...
www.bbc.co.uk › news
16 May 2020 — The EU's Common Fisheries Policy (CFP) sets quotas among EU member ... boats "are required to land more of their catch in UK ports, and return more ... 60% British-crewed; (and must) land, process and sell 60% of their ...
this is the bit you need to read Fishing for Leave wants to change the rules so all British fishing vessels must be "60% British-owned; 60% British-crewed; (and must) land, process and sell 60% of their catches in Britain".
this was reported in MAY.
So 60% is the red line, any lower and it’s a no deal? I have no idea mate im not part of fishing for Britain but thats what was reported by the bbc back in may,Barnier could be saying it was 80% and he has got it down to 60% to make it look like he won or the uk wanted 60% and told him it was 80% so they got what they wanted who knows but if they are both happy its a step nearer to a deal.
I agree, 60% seems a fair deal, where did the original 80% figure come from? "
I have no idea. |
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over a year ago
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"This from the 16th may on the bbc, the gardian as usual trying to kick up shit. Brexit trade deal: Who really owns UK fishing quotas? - BBC ...
www.bbc.co.uk › news
16 May 2020 — The EU's Common Fisheries Policy (CFP) sets quotas among EU member ... boats "are required to land more of their catch in UK ports, and return more ... 60% British-crewed; (and must) land, process and sell 60% of their ...
this is the bit you need to read Fishing for Leave wants to change the rules so all British fishing vessels must be "60% British-owned; 60% British-crewed; (and must) land, process and sell 60% of their catches in Britain".
this was reported in MAY.
So 60% is the red line, any lower and it’s a no deal? I have no idea mate im not part of fishing for Britain but thats what was reported by the bbc back in may,Barnier could be saying it was 80% and he has got it down to 60% to make it look like he won or the uk wanted 60% and told him it was 80% so they got what they wanted who knows but if they are both happy its a step nearer to a deal.
I agree, 60% seems a fair deal, where did the original 80% figure come from? "
80% is what France is pushing for, that’s 80% to them 
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"This from the 16th may on the bbc, the gardian as usual trying to kick up shit. Brexit trade deal: Who really owns UK fishing quotas? - BBC ...
www.bbc.co.uk › news
16 May 2020 — The EU's Common Fisheries Policy (CFP) sets quotas among EU member ... boats "are required to land more of their catch in UK ports, and return more ... 60% British-crewed; (and must) land, process and sell 60% of their ...
this is the bit you need to read Fishing for Leave wants to change the rules so all British fishing vessels must be "60% British-owned; 60% British-crewed; (and must) land, process and sell 60% of their catches in Britain".
this was reported in MAY.
So 60% is the red line, any lower and it’s a no deal? I have no idea mate im not part of fishing for Britain but thats what was reported by the bbc back in may,Barnier could be saying it was 80% and he has got it down to 60% to make it look like he won or the uk wanted 60% and told him it was 80% so they got what they wanted who knows but if they are both happy its a step nearer to a deal.
I agree, 60% seems a fair deal, where did the original 80% figure come from?
80% is what France is pushing for, that’s 80% to them
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Guardian article read as if UK wanted back 80% of what EU currently has (which i guess might equate to 60% of the total). Boris has now said he will accept 60% back (maybe 45% of the total, but sounds a lot better). EU have said they are giving back no more than 18% of their current share.
My guess is that it will go to the wire before boris finally caves and ends up with 10% or less - worse than the original offer from them. After all he does have form - the much vaunted, so masterfully negotiated "oven ready" deal was considerably crapper than where T May had started from over a year earlier... |
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"This from the 16th may on the bbc, the gardian as usual trying to kick up shit. Brexit trade deal: Who really owns UK fishing quotas? - BBC ...
www.bbc.co.uk › news
16 May 2020 — The EU's Common Fisheries Policy (CFP) sets quotas among EU member ... boats "are required to land more of their catch in UK ports, and return more ... 60% British-crewed; (and must) land, process and sell 60% of their ...
this is the bit you need to read Fishing for Leave wants to change the rules so all British fishing vessels must be "60% British-owned; 60% British-crewed; (and must) land, process and sell 60% of their catches in Britain".
this was reported in MAY.
So 60% is the red line, any lower and it’s a no deal? I have no idea mate im not part of fishing for Britain but thats what was reported by the bbc back in may,Barnier could be saying it was 80% and he has got it down to 60% to make it look like he won or the uk wanted 60% and told him it was 80% so they got what they wanted who knows but if they are both happy its a step nearer to a deal.
I agree, 60% seems a fair deal, where did the original 80% figure come from?
80% is what France is pushing for, that’s 80% to them
Guardian article read as if UK wanted back 80% of what EU currently has (which i guess might equate to 60% of the total). Boris has now said he will accept 60% back (maybe 45% of the total, but sounds a lot better). EU have said they are giving back no more than 18% of their current share.
My guess is that it will go to the wire before boris finally caves and ends up with 10% or less - worse than the original offer from them. After all he does have form - the much vaunted, so masterfully negotiated "oven ready" deal was considerably crapper than where T May had started from over a year earlier..."
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The guardian article is fact of what the guardian has reported. Whether it is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth i have no way of knowing - i am neither the government or the EU negotiator. All i can say is that the guardian is a widely respected newspaper which on more than one occasion has proved itself more truthful than the prime minister.
The 10% figure is nothing but my speculation at what the final settlement might be, suggesting only half in jest that the UK negotiating team and boris in particular are so weak that they will end up with less than they were offered at the start.
If you read the OP, it invites all to take part in a sweepstake ie. give me your (calculated or merely humerous) guess at what the final result might be.
Prize list to be published, or not, after the event. Opinions of the judges are final.
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"The guardian article is fact of what the guardian has reported. Whether it is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth i have no way of knowing - i am neither the government or the EU negotiator. All i can say is that the guardian is a widely respected newspaper which on more than one occasion has proved itself more truthful than the prime minister.
The 10% figure is nothing but my speculation at what the final settlement might be, suggesting only half in jest that the UK negotiating team and boris in particular are so weak that they will end up with less than they were offered at the start.
If you read the OP, it invites all to take part in a sweepstake ie. give me your (calculated or merely humerous) guess at what the final result might be.
Prize list to be published, or not, after the event. Opinions of the judges are final.
*Competition not open to employees or their relatives, void where prohibited by law, prizes may not be exchanged for equivalent cash benefit."
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"The guardian article is fact of what the guardian has reported. Whether it is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth i have no way of knowing - i am neither the government or the EU negotiator. All i can say is that the guardian is a widely respected newspaper which on more than one occasion has proved itself more truthful than the prime minister.
The 10% figure is nothing but my speculation at what the final settlement might be, suggesting only half in jest that the UK negotiating team and boris in particular are so weak that they will end up with less than they were offered at the start.
If you read the OP, it invites all to take part in a sweepstake ie. give me your (calculated or merely humerous) guess at what the final result might be.
Prize list to be published, or not, after the event. Opinions of the judges are final.
*Competition not open to employees or their relatives, void where prohibited by law, prizes may not be exchanged for equivalent cash benefit."
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"This from the 16th may on the bbc, the gardian as usual trying to kick up shit. Brexit trade deal: Who really owns UK fishing quotas? - BBC ...
www.bbc.co.uk › news
16 May 2020 — The EU's Common Fisheries Policy (CFP) sets quotas among EU member ... boats "are required to land more of their catch in UK ports, and return more ... 60% British-crewed; (and must) land, process and sell 60% of their ...
this is the bit you need to read Fishing for Leave wants to change the rules so all British fishing vessels must be "60% British-owned; 60% British-crewed; (and must) land, process and sell 60% of their catches in Britain".
this was reported in MAY.
So 60% is the red line, any lower and it’s a no deal? I have no idea mate im not part of fishing for Britain but thats what was reported by the bbc back in may,Barnier could be saying it was 80% and he has got it down to 60% to make it look like he won or the uk wanted 60% and told him it was 80% so they got what they wanted who knows but if they are both happy its a step nearer to a deal.
I agree, 60% seems a fair deal, where did the original 80% figure come from?
80% is what France is pushing for, that’s 80% to them
Guardian article read as if UK wanted back 80% of what EU currently has (which i guess might equate to 60% of the total). Boris has now said he will accept 60% back (maybe 45% of the total, but sounds a lot better). EU have said they are giving back no more than 18% of their current share.
My guess is that it will go to the wire before boris finally caves and ends up with 10% or less - worse than the original offer from them. After all he does have form - the much vaunted, so masterfully negotiated "oven ready" deal was considerably crapper than where T May had started from over a year earlier..."
If there is no deal the EU will get zero percent, the fishing grounds of the UK are ours and the eu will have no right whatever to catch any fish in them. They are not giving anything back, its not theirs |
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"This from the 16th may on the bbc, the gardian as usual trying to kick up shit. Brexit trade deal: Who really owns UK fishing quotas? - BBC ...
www.bbc.co.uk › news
16 May 2020 — The EU's Common Fisheries Policy (CFP) sets quotas among EU member ... boats "are required to land more of their catch in UK ports, and return more ... 60% British-crewed; (and must) land, process and sell 60% of their ...
this is the bit you need to read Fishing for Leave wants to change the rules so all British fishing vessels must be "60% British-owned; 60% British-crewed; (and must) land, process and sell 60% of their catches in Britain".
this was reported in MAY.
So 60% is the red line, any lower and it’s a no deal? I have no idea mate im not part of fishing for Britain but thats what was reported by the bbc back in may,Barnier could be saying it was 80% and he has got it down to 60% to make it look like he won or the uk wanted 60% and told him it was 80% so they got what they wanted who knows but if they are both happy its a step nearer to a deal.
I agree, 60% seems a fair deal, where did the original 80% figure come from?
80% is what France is pushing for, that’s 80% to them
Guardian article read as if UK wanted back 80% of what EU currently has (which i guess might equate to 60% of the total). Boris has now said he will accept 60% back (maybe 45% of the total, but sounds a lot better). EU have said they are giving back no more than 18% of their current share.
My guess is that it will go to the wire before boris finally caves and ends up with 10% or less - worse than the original offer from them. After all he does have form - the much vaunted, so masterfully negotiated "oven ready" deal was considerably crapper than where T May had started from over a year earlier...
If there is no deal the EU will get zero percent, the fishing grounds of the UK are ours and the eu will have no right whatever to catch any fish in them. They are not giving anything back, its not theirs"
Zero per cent of what? |
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"Of our fish from our fishing grounds.
The ones that we have to export because hardly anyone in the UK likes to eat them ?
That has nothing to do with who owns the fishing grounds"
So, we leave the EU without a deal because it’s is vitally important that we keep hold of our fishing grounds despite the fact it is full of fish we don’t eat and that we sell to the EU ? Who is the winner here? |
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"Of our fish from our fishing grounds.
The ones that we have to export because hardly anyone in the UK likes to eat them ?
That has nothing to do with who owns the fishing grounds
So, we leave the EU without a deal because it’s is vitally important that we keep hold of our fishing grounds despite the fact it is full of fish we don’t eat and that we sell to the EU ? Who is the winner here? "
9 more years of Boris you are going to love it 3000 days plus you can wake up with him your top dog making you follow the line  |
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"Of our fish from our fishing grounds.
The ones that we have to export because hardly anyone in the UK likes to eat them ?
That has nothing to do with who owns the fishing grounds
So, we leave the EU without a deal because it’s is vitally important that we keep hold of our fishing grounds despite the fact it is full of fish we don’t eat and that we sell to the EU ? Who is the winner here?
9 more years of Boris you are going to love it 3000 days plus you can wake up with him your top dog making you follow the line "
4 more years of sleepy joe, has your bat shit crazy president conceded yet |
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"Of our fish from our fishing grounds.
The ones that we have to export because hardly anyone in the UK likes to eat them ?
That has nothing to do with who owns the fishing grounds
So, we leave the EU without a deal because it’s is vitally important that we keep hold of our fishing grounds despite the fact it is full of fish we don’t eat and that we sell to the EU ? Who is the winner here?
9 more years of Boris you are going to love it 3000 days plus you can wake up with him your top dog making you follow the line
4 more years of sleepy joe, has your bat shit crazy president conceded yet "
The thread isn't about Joe isn't that what you usually say on a thread? Off topic?
3000 days plus of Boris you might even get to give him a blowie in the next 9 years 
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"Of our fish from our fishing grounds.
The ones that we have to export because hardly anyone in the UK likes to eat them ?
That has nothing to do with who owns the fishing grounds
So, we leave the EU without a deal because it’s is vitally important that we keep hold of our fishing grounds despite the fact it is full of fish we don’t eat and that we sell to the EU ? Who is the winner here?
9 more years of Boris you are going to love it 3000 days plus you can wake up with him your top dog making you follow the line
4 more years of sleepy joe, has your bat shit crazy president conceded yet
The thread isn't about Joe isn't that what you usually say on a thread? Off topic?
3000 days plus of Boris you might even get to give him a blowie in the next 9 years
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"Of our fish from our fishing grounds.
The ones that we have to export because hardly anyone in the UK likes to eat them ?
That has nothing to do with who owns the fishing grounds
So, we leave the EU without a deal because it’s is vitally important that we keep hold of our fishing grounds despite the fact it is full of fish we don’t eat and that we sell to the EU ? Who is the winner here?
9 more years of Boris you are going to love it 3000 days plus you can wake up with him your top dog making you follow the line
4 more years of sleepy joe, has your bat shit crazy president conceded yet
The thread isn't about Joe isn't that what you usually say on a thread? Off topic?
3000 days plus of Boris you might even get to give him a blowie in the next 9 years
4 years of Trump then 4 years of Biden, you must be loving every second of it , God bless America "
It really gets to you doesn't it Arrrr kid so frikin funny that it gets to you. 9 years of hate and loathing of your leader to come and you can do nothing about it |
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"Of our fish from our fishing grounds.
The ones that we have to export because hardly anyone in the UK likes to eat them ?
That has nothing to do with who owns the fishing grounds
So, we leave the EU without a deal because it’s is vitally important that we keep hold of our fishing grounds despite the fact it is full of fish we don’t eat and that we sell to the EU ? Who is the winner here?
9 more years of Boris you are going to love it 3000 days plus you can wake up with him your top dog making you follow the line
4 more years of sleepy joe, has your bat shit crazy president conceded yet
The thread isn't about Joe isn't that what you usually say on a thread? Off topic?
3000 days plus of Boris you might even get to give him a blowie in the next 9 years
4 years of Trump then 4 years of Biden, you must be loving every second of it , God bless America
It really gets to you doesn't it Arrrr kid so frikin funny that it gets to you. 9 years of hate and loathing of your leader to come and you can do nothing about it "
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"Of our fish from our fishing grounds.
The ones that we have to export because hardly anyone in the UK likes to eat them ?
That has nothing to do with who owns the fishing grounds
So, we leave the EU without a deal because it’s is vitally important that we keep hold of our fishing grounds despite the fact it is full of fish we don’t eat and that we sell to the EU ? Who is the winner here?
9 more years of Boris you are going to love it 3000 days plus you can wake up with him your top dog making you follow the line
4 more years of sleepy joe, has your bat shit crazy president conceded yet
The thread isn't about Joe isn't that what you usually say on a thread? Off topic?
3000 days plus of Boris you might even get to give him a blowie in the next 9 years
4 years of Trump then 4 years of Biden, you must be loving every second of it , God bless America
It really gets to you doesn't it Arrrr kid so frikin funny that it gets to you. 9 years of hate and loathing of your leader to come and you can do nothing about it
Sleepy Joe "
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By *dsindyTV/TS
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The thread isn't about Joe isn't that what you usually say on a thread? Off topic?
3000 days plus of Boris you might even get to give him a blowie in the next 9 years
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