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"Personally I wouldn't mind either way. If the Scottish people want independence that's fine by me and as I think someone else pointed out, if it means we get to see less of Ian Blackford on our TV screens then that is a bonus ![]() Good answer - thanks I’ve never known the politicians and Westminster to really care about the status of wealth of other nations - if anything they would see this as a economic or financial opportunity to exploit for profit or gain. But maybe you are right maybe they really like Scotland and don’t want to see us suffer and become poor - nah I don’t think so. I think they would be more upset with the concept of the Queen spending most of her time abroad. | |||
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"Because Tunnocks would inevitably become more expensive! " We could have a trade deal and if it’s agreed in advance we could offer every english swinger on fab a free one for Hogmanay! Thanks fo the idea | |||
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"Probably because no party wants the break up of the union on their cv,the boarder will become an issue too even though it would make economic sense to let scotland go its own way.just for the record im English and if the people of scotland want independence they should have it." True it would be on their watch, which I think will be Conservative party as Labour has very little chance of getting in without the Scottish vote. A good point. | |||
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"Let the Jocks have their independence on one condition. That they keep their wailing screeching cat bags outta ear shot. i.e. the bagbloodypipes!!" We could agree an exclusion zone on the border- say no closer than 15 miles from the border | |||
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"Let the Jocks have their independence on one condition. That they keep their wailing screeching cat bags outta ear shot. i.e. the bagbloodypipes!!" How offensive. Brexiter no doubt. | |||
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"Why and when I say England I mean the political parties, Westminster, you if your English. I want to know why (I’m not wanting Scottish opinions and I’m not asking the Welsh or the Irish as they have no say in Scotland becoming independent). So why would you as an English person stop Scotland from leaving the Union. " Our submarine base is in Scotland,there is still oil there to which we paid for and developed. Whatever they have is mostly paid for by us so why should we give it to them? | |||
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"Why and when I say England I mean the political parties, Westminster, you if your English. I want to know why (I’m not wanting Scottish opinions and I’m not asking the Welsh or the Irish as they have no say in Scotland becoming independent). So why would you as an English person stop Scotland from leaving the Union. Our submarine base is in Scotland,there is still oil there to which we paid for and developed. Whatever they have is mostly paid for by us so why should we give it to them? " ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Why and when I say England I mean the political parties, Westminster, you if your English. I want to know why (I’m not wanting Scottish opinions and I’m not asking the Welsh or the Irish as they have no say in Scotland becoming independent). So why would you as an English person stop Scotland from leaving the Union. Our submarine base is in Scotland,there is still oil there to which we paid for and developed. Whatever they have is mostly paid for by us so why should we give it to them? " It will have to move as wee nicola doesn't want nukes in Scotland more job losses. ![]() | |||
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"Why and when I say England I mean the political parties, Westminster, you if your English. I want to know why (I’m not wanting Scottish opinions and I’m not asking the Welsh or the Irish as they have no say in Scotland becoming independent). So why would you as an English person stop Scotland from leaving the Union. Our submarine base is in Scotland,there is still oil there to which we paid for and developed. Whatever they have is mostly paid for by us so why should we give it to them? It will have to move as wee nicola doesn't want nukes in Scotland more job losses. ![]() Probally not keen on seeing her country obliterated tbf | |||
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"Why and when I say England I mean the political parties, Westminster, you if your English. I want to know why (I’m not wanting Scottish opinions and I’m not asking the Welsh or the Irish as they have no say in Scotland becoming independent). So why would you as an English person stop Scotland from leaving the Union. Our submarine base is in Scotland,there is still oil there to which we paid for and developed. Whatever they have is mostly paid for by us so why should we give it to them? It will have to move as wee nicola doesn't want nukes in Scotland more job losses. ![]() “her country” ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Why and when I say England I mean the political parties, Westminster, you if your English. I want to know why (I’m not wanting Scottish opinions and I’m not asking the Welsh or the Irish as they have no say in Scotland becoming independent). So why would you as an English person stop Scotland from leaving the Union. Our submarine base is in Scotland,there is still oil there to which we paid for and developed. Whatever they have is mostly paid for by us so why should we give it to them? It will have to move as wee nicola doesn't want nukes in Scotland more job losses. ![]() ![]() ![]() Is she not from there? | |||
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"Why and when I say England I mean the political parties, Westminster, you if your English. I want to know why (I’m not wanting Scottish opinions and I’m not asking the Welsh or the Irish as they have no say in Scotland becoming independent). So why would you as an English person stop Scotland from leaving the Union. Our submarine base is in Scotland,there is still oil there to which we paid for and developed. Whatever they have is mostly paid for by us so why should we give it to them? It will have to move as wee nicola doesn't want nukes in Scotland more job losses. ![]() Yeah because that has happened how many times in the past exactly??????? | |||
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"Why and when I say England I mean the political parties, Westminster, you if your English. I want to know why (I’m not wanting Scottish opinions and I’m not asking the Welsh or the Irish as they have no say in Scotland becoming independent). So why would you as an English person stop Scotland from leaving the Union. Our submarine base is in Scotland,there is still oil there to which we paid for and developed. Whatever they have is mostly paid for by us so why should we give it to them? It will have to move as wee nicola doesn't want nukes in Scotland more job losses. ![]() ![]() ![]() I don't know; is that the criteria for being Scottish? | |||
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"Why and when I say England I mean the political parties, Westminster, you if your English. I want to know why (I’m not wanting Scottish opinions and I’m not asking the Welsh or the Irish as they have no say in Scotland becoming independent). So why would you as an English person stop Scotland from leaving the Union. Our submarine base is in Scotland,there is still oil there to which we paid for and developed. Whatever they have is mostly paid for by us so why should we give it to them? It will have to move as wee nicola doesn't want nukes in Scotland more job losses. ![]() Twice? | |||
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"Why and when I say England I mean the political parties, Westminster, you if your English. I want to know why (I’m not wanting Scottish opinions and I’m not asking the Welsh or the Irish as they have no say in Scotland becoming independent). So why would you as an English person stop Scotland from leaving the Union. Our submarine base is in Scotland,there is still oil there to which we paid for and developed. Whatever they have is mostly paid for by us so why should we give it to them? It will have to move as wee nicola doesn't want nukes in Scotland more job losses. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Why and when I say England I mean the political parties, Westminster, you if your English. I want to know why (I’m not wanting Scottish opinions and I’m not asking the Welsh or the Irish as they have no say in Scotland becoming independent). So why would you as an English person stop Scotland from leaving the Union. Our submarine base is in Scotland,there is still oil there to which we paid for and developed. Whatever they have is mostly paid for by us so why should we give it to them? It will have to move as wee nicola doesn't want nukes in Scotland more job losses. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() You also don't know if she isn't "from there", or if she is Scottish? | |||
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"Why and when I say England I mean the political parties, Westminster, you if your English. I want to know why (I’m not wanting Scottish opinions and I’m not asking the Welsh or the Irish as they have no say in Scotland becoming independent). So why would you as an English person stop Scotland from leaving the Union. Our submarine base is in Scotland,there is still oil there to which we paid for and developed. Whatever they have is mostly paid for by us so why should we give it to them? It will have to move as wee nicola doesn't want nukes in Scotland more job losses. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() You have lost me I'm assuming she is Scottish..which mean logically mean she is from there. | |||
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"Why and when I say England I mean the political parties, Westminster, you if your English. I want to know why (I’m not wanting Scottish opinions and I’m not asking the Welsh or the Irish as they have no say in Scotland becoming independent). So why would you as an English person stop Scotland from leaving the Union. Our submarine base is in Scotland,there is still oil there to which we paid for and developed. Whatever they have is mostly paid for by us so why should we give it to them? It will have to move as wee nicola doesn't want nukes in Scotland more job losses. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Good, glad we got that confirmed. | |||
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"Why and when I say England I mean the political parties, Westminster, you if your English. I want to know why (I’m not wanting Scottish opinions and I’m not asking the Welsh or the Irish as they have no say in Scotland becoming independent). So why would you as an English person stop Scotland from leaving the Union. Our submarine base is in Scotland,there is still oil there to which we paid for and developed. Whatever they have is mostly paid for by us so why should we give it to them? " Fair enough you can have your submarine base back ![]() | |||
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"I remember a time when those clamouring for independence were talking about " their" oil as being the source of funds. Seems that extracting it,using it and heating up the atmosphere maybe an unpopular rally cry now. I will have to update myself with how they propose to be self sufficient with money. " We are going to sell the submarines | |||
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"Why and when I say England I mean the political parties, Westminster, you if your English. I want to know why (I’m not wanting Scottish opinions and I’m not asking the Welsh or the Irish as they have no say in Scotland becoming independent). So why would you as an English person stop Scotland from leaving the Union. Our submarine base is in Scotland,there is still oil there to which we paid for and developed. Whatever they have is mostly paid for by us so why should we give it to them? It will have to move as wee nicola doesn't want nukes in Scotland more job losses. ![]() What japan had bombs dropped on them because Hiroshima and Nagasaki had nuclear bases ? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Why and when I say England I mean the political parties, Westminster, you if your English. I want to know why (I’m not wanting Scottish opinions and I’m not asking the Welsh or the Irish as they have no say in Scotland becoming independent). So why would you as an English person stop Scotland from leaving the Union. Our submarine base is in Scotland,there is still oil there to which we paid for and developed. Whatever they have is mostly paid for by us so why should we give it to them? It will have to move as wee nicola doesn't want nukes in Scotland more job losses. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I'm not sure saying because something has never happened in the past, it wont happen in the the future,is the most purseadive of arguments? Having a nuclear base would surely have you down as a military target. | |||
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"Since I have ancestry in Scotland, Ireland, and England, as well as my Native American ancestry, I feel Scotland has a right to their independence if they so desire. The Scotish people are just as smart and have just as much ingenuity as England, Ireland, or anywhere else for that matter. Like it or not, your all connected to one another in uncountable ways, upto and including on a genetic level for millenniums. It's far more than likely that most of the English people have direct ancestry links to Scotland, so they are your relatives, though distant, relatives non the less. So, with that being said, you should wish them the best regardless. As far as their independent economic stability, there would be a period of adjustment, just like any country would have trying to find a profitable balance. Just from the what I've read in this forum alone, the Scotish people could lease the submarine base back to England for a very sizable amount of money, and they could lease any oil fields or gas fields to England as well, not to mention the uncountable other opportunities that would be available to them to maintain economical stability. I have no doubt they could do it with the right leadership, but that's their choice. " Though I agree 100% with the rights of the Scots to do so, I would rather they didn't. It flies in the face of the history of Europe. Basically Europe has become more and more stable over the centuries, through the process of smaller countries joining together to form larger entities. You could argue the EU is the natural evolution of that. Even England was formed from smaller kingdoms. Italy, Germany, France etc. etc. If the UK had stayed in the EU this would probably not be happening. I think it's sad and probably to the detriment of both countries. | |||
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"Why and when I say England I mean the political parties, Westminster, you if your English. I want to know why (I’m not wanting Scottish opinions and I’m not asking the Welsh or the Irish as they have no say in Scotland becoming independent). So why would you as an English person stop Scotland from leaving the Union. Our submarine base is in Scotland,there is still oil there to which we paid for and developed. Whatever they have is mostly paid for by us so why should we give it to them? It will have to move as wee nicola doesn't want nukes in Scotland more job losses. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Thats true it could happen in the future but im sure not having nuclear weapons would make you more likely to get nucked than not.I know you wont agree because you will take corbyns stance on it,lets get back on topic. ![]() | |||
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"There was a small town called Dunoon. Back in the Cold War days it was classed as a high spot (world wide target number 5) to be bombed. Funny it never happened. War’s are not won on bombing anymore. So it’s more that fair to say it’s far , to say there will be any kind of targeted plot on a nuclear base. " No bombs were dropped anywhere in the west during the cold war. | |||
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"There was a small town called Dunoon. Back in the Cold War days it was classed as a high spot (world wide target number 5) to be bombed. Funny it never happened. War’s are not won on bombing anymore. So it’s more that fair to say it’s far , to say there will be any kind of targeted plot on a nuclear base. No bombs were dropped anywhere in the west during the cold war." Thanks for giving yourself the answer you were looking for... | |||
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"There was a small town called Dunoon. Back in the Cold War days it was classed as a high spot (world wide target number 5) to be bombed. Funny it never happened. War’s are not won on bombing anymore. So it’s more that fair to say it’s far , to say there will be any kind of targeted plot on a nuclear base. No bombs were dropped anywhere in the west during the cold war. Thanks for giving yourself the answer you were looking for... " I've never broken my arm Ergo I'll never break my arm. Its an utterly ridiculous assumption. We live in a very unpredictable world. The fact is that we have been on the knife edge several times in the past,often only by good fortune has armageddon been averted. | |||
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"The amount of unemployment in the area if the sub bases were to move would be catastrophic, it would be akin to the mine closures in the north bk in the day. In my opinion I dont think an English gov would lease it from Scotland they would jus close them down and move the jobs to England." Forgot about the fall out from that. It’s a drop in the ocean when you look at how many public service jobs are in Scotland. No way will England keep them jobs in Scotland. 52% of jobs in Scotland are public service jobs. Mass unemployment in the 20+% Now add that oil is costing more to drill in the North Sea than it is selling for. Also remember they are keeping the £. So 0 control of it’s only value. So any companies that are still open will move. Remember RBS have now moved the head office to London now. It sounds a fantastic | |||
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"There was a small town called Dunoon. Back in the Cold War days it was classed as a high spot (world wide target number 5) to be bombed. Funny it never happened. War’s are not won on bombing anymore. So it’s more that fair to say it’s far , to say there will be any kind of targeted plot on a nuclear base. No bombs were dropped anywhere in the west during the cold war. Thanks for giving yourself the answer you were looking for... I've never broken my arm Ergo I'll never break my arm. Its an utterly ridiculous assumption. We live in a very unpredictable world. The fact is that we have been on the knife edge several times in the past,often only by good fortune has armageddon been averted." Not half as ridiculous are your post. But hey ho. Im surprised you have not packed your bags and moved to Scotland. | |||
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"The amount of unemployment in the area if the sub bases were to move would be catastrophic, it would be akin to the mine closures in the north bk in the day. In my opinion I dont think an English gov would lease it from Scotland they would jus close them down and move the jobs to England. Forgot about the fall out from that. It’s a drop in the ocean when you look at how many public service jobs are in Scotland. No way will England keep them jobs in Scotland. 52% of jobs in Scotland are public service jobs. Mass unemployment in the 20+% Now add that oil is costing more to drill in the North Sea than it is selling for. Also remember they are keeping the £. So 0 control of it’s only value. So any companies that are still open will move. Remember RBS have now moved the head office to London now. It sounds a fantastic " 21% actually. | |||
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"The amount of unemployment in the area if the sub bases were to move would be catastrophic, it would be akin to the mine closures in the north bk in the day. In my opinion I dont think an English gov would lease it from Scotland they would jus close them down and move the jobs to England. Forgot about the fall out from that. It’s a drop in the ocean when you look at how many public service jobs are in Scotland. No way will England keep them jobs in Scotland. 52% of jobs in Scotland are public service jobs. Mass unemployment in the 20+% Now add that oil is costing more to drill in the North Sea than it is selling for. Also remember they are keeping the £. So 0 control of it’s only value. So any companies that are still open will move. Remember RBS have now moved the head office to London now. It sounds a fantastic 21% actually. " No it’s not. It’s been over 50% for the past 20 years. But you’re an expert in everything. I wouldn’t say an expert anything. Apart from being on fab and talking shit. 100% of the time. ![]() | |||
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"The amount of unemployment in the area if the sub bases were to move would be catastrophic, it would be akin to the mine closures in the north bk in the day. In my opinion I dont think an English gov would lease it from Scotland they would jus close them down and move the jobs to England. Forgot about the fall out from that. It’s a drop in the ocean when you look at how many public service jobs are in Scotland. No way will England keep them jobs in Scotland. 52% of jobs in Scotland are public service jobs. Mass unemployment in the 20+% Now add that oil is costing more to drill in the North Sea than it is selling for. Also remember they are keeping the £. So 0 control of it’s only value. So any companies that are still open will move. Remember RBS have now moved the head office to London now. It sounds a fantastic " Oil will be as popular as stuffing kids up chimneys in the near future with the green revolution and greta so think that ship has sailed. | |||
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"The amount of unemployment in the area if the sub bases were to move would be catastrophic, it would be akin to the mine closures in the north bk in the day. In my opinion I dont think an English gov would lease it from Scotland they would jus close them down and move the jobs to England. Forgot about the fall out from that. It’s a drop in the ocean when you look at how many public service jobs are in Scotland. No way will England keep them jobs in Scotland. 52% of jobs in Scotland are public service jobs. Mass unemployment in the 20+% Now add that oil is costing more to drill in the North Sea than it is selling for. Also remember they are keeping the £. So 0 control of it’s only value. So any companies that are still open will move. Remember RBS have now moved the head office to London now. It sounds a fantastic 21% actually. No it’s not. It’s been over 50% for the past 20 years. But you’re an expert in everything. I wouldn’t say an expert anything. Apart from being on fab and talking shit. 100% of the time. ![]() Tut tut You lot just cant help with your personal insults can you? I'm almost offended According to the gov.scotland website its 21% | |||
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"The amount of unemployment in the area if the sub bases were to move would be catastrophic, it would be akin to the mine closures in the north bk in the day. In my opinion I dont think an English gov would lease it from Scotland they would jus close them down and move the jobs to England. Forgot about the fall out from that. It’s a drop in the ocean when you look at how many public service jobs are in Scotland. No way will England keep them jobs in Scotland. 52% of jobs in Scotland are public service jobs. Mass unemployment in the 20+% Now add that oil is costing more to drill in the North Sea than it is selling for. Also remember they are keeping the £. So 0 control of it’s only value. So any companies that are still open will move. Remember RBS have now moved the head office to London now. It sounds a fantastic 21% actually. No it’s not. It’s been over 50% for the past 20 years. But you’re an expert in everything. I wouldn’t say an expert anything. Apart from being on fab and talking shit. 100% of the time. ![]() That’s not an insult. It’s a fact you think you’re an expert in everything. Copy and paste off the internet... Amazing ![]() | |||
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"The amount of unemployment in the area if the sub bases were to move would be catastrophic, it would be akin to the mine closures in the north bk in the day. In my opinion I dont think an English gov would lease it from Scotland they would jus close them down and move the jobs to England. Forgot about the fall out from that. It’s a drop in the ocean when you look at how many public service jobs are in Scotland. No way will England keep them jobs in Scotland. 52% of jobs in Scotland are public service jobs. Mass unemployment in the 20+% Now add that oil is costing more to drill in the North Sea than it is selling for. Also remember they are keeping the £. So 0 control of it’s only value. So any companies that are still open will move. Remember RBS have now moved the head office to London now. It sounds a fantastic 21% actually. No it’s not. It’s been over 50% for the past 20 years. But you’re an expert in everything. I wouldn’t say an expert anything. Apart from being on fab and talking shit. 100% of the time. ![]() ![]() Dont reply to me then I'm sure I'll survive somehow | |||
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"The amount of unemployment in the area if the sub bases were to move would be catastrophic, it would be akin to the mine closures in the north bk in the day. In my opinion I dont think an English gov would lease it from Scotland they would jus close them down and move the jobs to England. Forgot about the fall out from that. It’s a drop in the ocean when you look at how many public service jobs are in Scotland. No way will England keep them jobs in Scotland. 52% of jobs in Scotland are public service jobs. Mass unemployment in the 20+% Now add that oil is costing more to drill in the North Sea than it is selling for. Also remember they are keeping the £. So 0 control of it’s only value. So any companies that are still open will move. Remember RBS have now moved the head office to London now. It sounds a fantastic 21% actually. No it’s not. It’s been over 50% for the past 20 years. But you’re an expert in everything. I wouldn’t say an expert anything. Apart from being on fab and talking shit. 100% of the time. ![]() ********************************* ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"The amount of unemployment in the area if the sub bases were to move would be catastrophic, it would be akin to the mine closures in the north bk in the day. In my opinion I dont think an English gov would lease it from Scotland they would jus close them down and move the jobs to England. Forgot about the fall out from that. It’s a drop in the ocean when you look at how many public service jobs are in Scotland. No way will England keep them jobs in Scotland. 52% of jobs in Scotland are public service jobs. Mass unemployment in the 20+% Now add that oil is costing more to drill in the North Sea than it is selling for. Also remember they are keeping the £. So 0 control of it’s only value. So any companies that are still open will move. Remember RBS have now moved the head office to London now. It sounds a fantastic 21% actually. No it’s not. It’s been over 50% for the past 20 years. But you’re an expert in everything. I wouldn’t say an expert anything. Apart from being on fab and talking shit. 100% of the time. ![]() ![]() Did you actually have a source for this unlikely 52% or was that just total bullshit? | |||
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"I think Silverhorn summed it up pretty well I just hope you guys dont cut your nose off to spite your face. In all honesty it's just not really something most English people care much about. If you want to leave you should, if you dont then dont" This is all very similar to my successful thread a couple of days ago lol. There’s more than few English people who are bored or disinterested in the whole thing and wish Scotland would get on with it if they’re going to do it one day anyway. | |||
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"I think Silverhorn summed it up pretty well I just hope you guys dont cut your nose off to spite your face. In all honesty it's just not really something most English people care much about. If you want to leave you should, if you dont then dont This is all very similar to my successful thread a couple of days ago lol. There’s more than few English people who are bored or disinterested in the whole thing and wish Scotland would get on with it if they’re going to do it one day anyway. " I would think it a shame to break the union but in all honesty we'd probably just wake up the next morning and carry on with our lives | |||
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"Why and when I say England I mean the political parties, Westminster, you if your English. I want to know why (I’m not wanting Scottish opinions and I’m not asking the Welsh or the Irish as they have no say in Scotland becoming independent). So why would you as an English person stop Scotland from leaving the Union. Our submarine base is in Scotland,there is still oil there to which we paid for and developed. Whatever they have is mostly paid for by us so why should we give it to them? It will have to move as wee nicola doesn't want nukes in Scotland more job losses. ![]() This a small island if England got nucked Scotland would not escape it anyway silly | |||
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"Without wishing to take any particular side... I fail to see how any person who was in favour of brexit dare say that Scotland should not be allowed independence. If you think it was a good idea for Britain to divorce itself from Europe, then you have disqualified yourself from any authority to prevent parts of the UK wanting their own sovereignty. Conversely, anybody who was against brexit and believes in European unity, you have no right to deny Scotland it's chance to break away from the stupidity of the English and rejoin the EU. So: brexiters - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last 5 years telling anybody pro-union that they are wrong. And remainers - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last five years trying to find any possible way to stay part of the EU." Cant argue with that I've got nothing against them going their own way if thats what they want. And they have to put up with the typical little englander 'world revolves around us'attitiude. | |||
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" Our submarine base is in Scotland,there is still oil there to which we paid for and developed. Whatever they have is mostly paid for by us so why should we give it to them? " Your submarine base ? is that the same one that no one wants in england. You also think that "you" paid for and developed the oil ? You really are clueless. A boris lover and brexiteer just about sums you up | |||
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"Without wishing to take any particular side... I fail to see how any person who was in favour of brexit dare say that Scotland should not be allowed independence. If you think it was a good idea for Britain to divorce itself from Europe, then you have disqualified yourself from any authority to prevent parts of the UK wanting their own sovereignty. Conversely, anybody who was against brexit and believes in European unity, you have no right to deny Scotland it's chance to break away from the stupidity of the English and rejoin the EU. So: brexiters - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last 5 years telling anybody pro-union that they are wrong. And remainers - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last five years trying to find any possible way to stay part of the EU. Cant argue with that I've got nothing against them going their own way if thats what they want. And they have to put up with the typical little englander 'world revolves around us'attitiude." I have seen you use the term “ little englander” several times in recent posts. Would you be so kind as to tell me your definition of the term please. | |||
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" Our submarine base is in Scotland,there is still oil there to which we paid for and developed. Whatever they have is mostly paid for by us so why should we give it to them? Your submarine base ? is that the same one that no one wants in england. You also think that "you" paid for and developed the oil ? You really are clueless. A boris lover and brexiteer just about sums you up" Bj and boris fan club are on here! | |||
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"Without wishing to take any particular side... I fail to see how any person who was in favour of brexit dare say that Scotland should not be allowed independence. If you think it was a good idea for Britain to divorce itself from Europe, then you have disqualified yourself from any authority to prevent parts of the UK wanting their own sovereignty. Conversely, anybody who was against brexit and believes in European unity, you have no right to deny Scotland it's chance to break away from the stupidity of the English and rejoin the EU. So: brexiters - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last 5 years telling anybody pro-union that they are wrong. And remainers - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last five years trying to find any possible way to stay part of the EU. Cant argue with that I've got nothing against them going their own way if thats what they want. And they have to put up with the typical little englander 'world revolves around us'attitiude. I have seen you use the term “ little englander” several times in recent posts. Would you be so kind as to tell me your definition of the term please." Well..if it was in the dictionary..it would probably be under a picture of mr nigel Farage. | |||
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"Without wishing to take any particular side... I fail to see how any person who was in favour of brexit dare say that Scotland should not be allowed independence. If you think it was a good idea for Britain to divorce itself from Europe, then you have disqualified yourself from any authority to prevent parts of the UK wanting their own sovereignty. Conversely, anybody who was against brexit and believes in European unity, you have no right to deny Scotland it's chance to break away from the stupidity of the English and rejoin the EU. So: brexiters - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last 5 years telling anybody pro-union that they are wrong. And remainers - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last five years trying to find any possible way to stay part of the EU. Cant argue with that I've got nothing against them going their own way if thats what they want. And they have to put up with the typical little englander 'world revolves around us'attitiude. I have seen you use the term “ little englander” several times in recent posts. Would you be so kind as to tell me your definition of the term please. Well..if it was in the dictionary..it would probably be under a picture of mr nigel Farage." Who you must clearly work for. You seem so intent on making the left look daft. Come on, you're a Farage stooge aren't you ![]() | |||
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"Without wishing to take any particular side... I fail to see how any person who was in favour of brexit dare say that Scotland should not be allowed independence. If you think it was a good idea for Britain to divorce itself from Europe, then you have disqualified yourself from any authority to prevent parts of the UK wanting their own sovereignty. Conversely, anybody who was against brexit and believes in European unity, you have no right to deny Scotland it's chance to break away from the stupidity of the English and rejoin the EU. So: brexiters - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last 5 years telling anybody pro-union that they are wrong. And remainers - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last five years trying to find any possible way to stay part of the EU." that abouts sums it up perfectly | |||
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"Without wishing to take any particular side... I fail to see how any person who was in favour of brexit dare say that Scotland should not be allowed independence. If you think it was a good idea for Britain to divorce itself from Europe, then you have disqualified yourself from any authority to prevent parts of the UK wanting their own sovereignty. Conversely, anybody who was against brexit and believes in European unity, you have no right to deny Scotland it's chance to break away from the stupidity of the English and rejoin the EU. So: brexiters - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last 5 years telling anybody pro-union that they are wrong. And remainers - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last five years trying to find any possible way to stay part of the EU. Cant argue with that I've got nothing against them going their own way if thats what they want. And they have to put up with the typical little englander 'world revolves around us'attitiude. I have seen you use the term “ little englander” several times in recent posts. Would you be so kind as to tell me your definition of the term please. Well..if it was in the dictionary..it would probably be under a picture of mr nigel Farage." I don’t want a dictionary definition it was yours I was interested in. Is it as an insult? Just so I’m clear what you are calling people... | |||
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"Without wishing to take any particular side... I fail to see how any person who was in favour of brexit dare say that Scotland should not be allowed independence. If you think it was a good idea for Britain to divorce itself from Europe, then you have disqualified yourself from any authority to prevent parts of the UK wanting their own sovereignty. Conversely, anybody who was against brexit and believes in European unity, you have no right to deny Scotland it's chance to break away from the stupidity of the English and rejoin the EU. So: brexiters - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last 5 years telling anybody pro-union that they are wrong. And remainers - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last five years trying to find any possible way to stay part of the EU. Cant argue with that I've got nothing against them going their own way if thats what they want. And they have to put up with the typical little englander 'world revolves around us'attitiude. I have seen you use the term “ little englander” several times in recent posts. Would you be so kind as to tell me your definition of the term please. Well..if it was in the dictionary..it would probably be under a picture of mr nigel Farage. Who you must clearly work for. You seem so intent on making the left look daft. Come on, you're a Farage stooge aren't you ![]() Are you saying Farage is not the epitome of a little englander? | |||
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"Without wishing to take any particular side... I fail to see how any person who was in favour of brexit dare say that Scotland should not be allowed independence. If you think it was a good idea for Britain to divorce itself from Europe, then you have disqualified yourself from any authority to prevent parts of the UK wanting their own sovereignty. Conversely, anybody who was against brexit and believes in European unity, you have no right to deny Scotland it's chance to break away from the stupidity of the English and rejoin the EU. So: brexiters - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last 5 years telling anybody pro-union that they are wrong. And remainers - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last five years trying to find any possible way to stay part of the EU. Cant argue with that I've got nothing against them going their own way if thats what they want. And they have to put up with the typical little englander 'world revolves around us'attitiude. I have seen you use the term “ little englander” several times in recent posts. Would you be so kind as to tell me your definition of the term please. Well..if it was in the dictionary..it would probably be under a picture of mr nigel Farage." but it’s not howay Lionel I’d like to know aswell lol | |||
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"Without wishing to take any particular side... I fail to see how any person who was in favour of brexit dare say that Scotland should not be allowed independence. If you think it was a good idea for Britain to divorce itself from Europe, then you have disqualified yourself from any authority to prevent parts of the UK wanting their own sovereignty. Conversely, anybody who was against brexit and believes in European unity, you have no right to deny Scotland it's chance to break away from the stupidity of the English and rejoin the EU. So: brexiters - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last 5 years telling anybody pro-union that they are wrong. And remainers - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last five years trying to find any possible way to stay part of the EU. Cant argue with that I've got nothing against them going their own way if thats what they want. And they have to put up with the typical little englander 'world revolves around us'attitiude. I have seen you use the term “ little englander” several times in recent posts. Would you be so kind as to tell me your definition of the term please. Well..if it was in the dictionary..it would probably be under a picture of mr nigel Farage. I don’t want a dictionary definition it was yours I was interested in. Is it as an insult? Just so I’m clear what you are calling people..." Depends which way you look at it? Some people may be proud of the moniker Someone who basically thinks the world revolves around us. On the post about Scotland the other day,one of the 1st replies was to give us back all the money you owe us. Ignoring completely the money we have took from Scotland. To me..that is a clsssic litle englander attitude | |||
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"Without wishing to take any particular side... I fail to see how any person who was in favour of brexit dare say that Scotland should not be allowed independence. If you think it was a good idea for Britain to divorce itself from Europe, then you have disqualified yourself from any authority to prevent parts of the UK wanting their own sovereignty. Conversely, anybody who was against brexit and believes in European unity, you have no right to deny Scotland it's chance to break away from the stupidity of the English and rejoin the EU. So: brexiters - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last 5 years telling anybody pro-union that they are wrong. And remainers - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last five years trying to find any possible way to stay part of the EU. Cant argue with that I've got nothing against them going their own way if thats what they want. And they have to put up with the typical little englander 'world revolves around us'attitiude. I have seen you use the term “ little englander” several times in recent posts. Would you be so kind as to tell me your definition of the term please. Well..if it was in the dictionary..it would probably be under a picture of mr nigel Farage. Who you must clearly work for. You seem so intent on making the left look daft. Come on, you're a Farage stooge aren't you ![]() I’m not saying anything I asked you a question | |||
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"Without wishing to take any particular side... I fail to see how any person who was in favour of brexit dare say that Scotland should not be allowed independence. If you think it was a good idea for Britain to divorce itself from Europe, then you have disqualified yourself from any authority to prevent parts of the UK wanting their own sovereignty. Conversely, anybody who was against brexit and believes in European unity, you have no right to deny Scotland it's chance to break away from the stupidity of the English and rejoin the EU. So: brexiters - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last 5 years telling anybody pro-union that they are wrong. And remainers - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last five years trying to find any possible way to stay part of the EU. Cant argue with that I've got nothing against them going their own way if thats what they want. And they have to put up with the typical little englander 'world revolves around us'attitiude. I have seen you use the term “ little englander” several times in recent posts. Would you be so kind as to tell me your definition of the term please. Well..if it was in the dictionary..it would probably be under a picture of mr nigel Farage. Who you must clearly work for. You seem so intent on making the left look daft. Come on, you're a Farage stooge aren't you ![]() That wasn't directed at you. | |||
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"Without wishing to take any particular side... I fail to see how any person who was in favour of brexit dare say that Scotland should not be allowed independence. If you think it was a good idea for Britain to divorce itself from Europe, then you have disqualified yourself from any authority to prevent parts of the UK wanting their own sovereignty. Conversely, anybody who was against brexit and believes in European unity, you have no right to deny Scotland it's chance to break away from the stupidity of the English and rejoin the EU. So: brexiters - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last 5 years telling anybody pro-union that they are wrong. And remainers - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last five years trying to find any possible way to stay part of the EU. Cant argue with that I've got nothing against them going their own way if thats what they want. And they have to put up with the typical little englander 'world revolves around us'attitiude. I have seen you use the term “ little englander” several times in recent posts. Would you be so kind as to tell me your definition of the term please. Well..if it was in the dictionary..it would probably be under a picture of mr nigel Farage. I don’t want a dictionary definition it was yours I was interested in. Is it as an insult? Just so I’m clear what you are calling people... Depends which way you look at it? Some people may be proud of the moniker Someone who basically thinks the world revolves around us. On the post about Scotland the other day,one of the 1st replies was to give us back all the money you owe us. Ignoring completely the money we have took from Scotland. To me..that is a clsssic litle englander attitude " wtf is a moniker lol | |||
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"Without wishing to take any particular side... I fail to see how any person who was in favour of brexit dare say that Scotland should not be allowed independence. If you think it was a good idea for Britain to divorce itself from Europe, then you have disqualified yourself from any authority to prevent parts of the UK wanting their own sovereignty. Conversely, anybody who was against brexit and believes in European unity, you have no right to deny Scotland it's chance to break away from the stupidity of the English and rejoin the EU. So: brexiters - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last 5 years telling anybody pro-union that they are wrong. And remainers - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last five years trying to find any possible way to stay part of the EU. Cant argue with that I've got nothing against them going their own way if thats what they want. And they have to put up with the typical little englander 'world revolves around us'attitiude. I have seen you use the term “ little englander” several times in recent posts. Would you be so kind as to tell me your definition of the term please. Well..if it was in the dictionary..it would probably be under a picture of mr nigel Farage. I don’t want a dictionary definition it was yours I was interested in. Is it as an insult? Just so I’m clear what you are calling people... Depends which way you look at it? Some people may be proud of the moniker Someone who basically thinks the world revolves around us. On the post about Scotland the other day,one of the 1st replies was to give us back all the money you owe us. Ignoring completely the money we have took from Scotland. To me..that is a clsssic litle englander attitude wtf is a moniker lol" A nickname | |||
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"Without wishing to take any particular side... I fail to see how any person who was in favour of brexit dare say that Scotland should not be allowed independence. If you think it was a good idea for Britain to divorce itself from Europe, then you have disqualified yourself from any authority to prevent parts of the UK wanting their own sovereignty. Conversely, anybody who was against brexit and believes in European unity, you have no right to deny Scotland it's chance to break away from the stupidity of the English and rejoin the EU. So: brexiters - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last 5 years telling anybody pro-union that they are wrong. And remainers - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last five years trying to find any possible way to stay part of the EU. Cant argue with that I've got nothing against them going their own way if thats what they want. And they have to put up with the typical little englander 'world revolves around us'attitiude. I have seen you use the term “ little englander” several times in recent posts. Would you be so kind as to tell me your definition of the term please. Well..if it was in the dictionary..it would probably be under a picture of mr nigel Farage. Who you must clearly work for. You seem so intent on making the left look daft. Come on, you're a Farage stooge aren't you ![]() I remember the Republican Anne Coulter was accoused of being a Democrat stooge. I think the theory was that she sounded so silly it would damage the Republicans. You're becoming a little bit like that just the other way around | |||
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"Without wishing to take any particular side... I fail to see how any person who was in favour of brexit dare say that Scotland should not be allowed independence. If you think it was a good idea for Britain to divorce itself from Europe, then you have disqualified yourself from any authority to prevent parts of the UK wanting their own sovereignty. Conversely, anybody who was against brexit and believes in European unity, you have no right to deny Scotland it's chance to break away from the stupidity of the English and rejoin the EU. So: brexiters - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last 5 years telling anybody pro-union that they are wrong. And remainers - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last five years trying to find any possible way to stay part of the EU. Cant argue with that I've got nothing against them going their own way if thats what they want. And they have to put up with the typical little englander 'world revolves around us'attitiude. I have seen you use the term “ little englander” several times in recent posts. Would you be so kind as to tell me your definition of the term please. Well..if it was in the dictionary..it would probably be under a picture of mr nigel Farage. I don’t want a dictionary definition it was yours I was interested in. Is it as an insult? Just so I’m clear what you are calling people... Depends which way you look at it? Some people may be proud of the moniker Someone who basically thinks the world revolves around us. On the post about Scotland the other day,one of the 1st replies was to give us back all the money you owe us. Ignoring completely the money we have took from Scotland. To me..that is a clsssic litle englander attitude " You have given attitudes they display, what is a little englander..?? Someone who thinks the world resolves round us. Do you mean an English person?? And how do you know the nationality of someone making their point on here to label them as such Your definition is eagerly awaited | |||
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"Without wishing to take any particular side... I fail to see how any person who was in favour of brexit dare say that Scotland should not be allowed independence. If you think it was a good idea for Britain to divorce itself from Europe, then you have disqualified yourself from any authority to prevent parts of the UK wanting their own sovereignty. Conversely, anybody who was against brexit and believes in European unity, you have no right to deny Scotland it's chance to break away from the stupidity of the English and rejoin the EU. So: brexiters - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last 5 years telling anybody pro-union that they are wrong. And remainers - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last five years trying to find any possible way to stay part of the EU. Cant argue with that I've got nothing against them going their own way if thats what they want. And they have to put up with the typical little englander 'world revolves around us'attitiude. I have seen you use the term “ little englander” several times in recent posts. Would you be so kind as to tell me your definition of the term please. Well..if it was in the dictionary..it would probably be under a picture of mr nigel Farage. I don’t want a dictionary definition it was yours I was interested in. Is it as an insult? Just so I’m clear what you are calling people... Depends which way you look at it? Some people may be proud of the moniker Someone who basically thinks the world revolves around us. On the post about Scotland the other day,one of the 1st replies was to give us back all the money you owe us. Ignoring completely the money we have took from Scotland. To me..that is a clsssic litle englander attitude wtf is a moniker lol A nickname " for what tho ? | |||
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"Without wishing to take any particular side... I fail to see how any person who was in favour of brexit dare say that Scotland should not be allowed independence. If you think it was a good idea for Britain to divorce itself from Europe, then you have disqualified yourself from any authority to prevent parts of the UK wanting their own sovereignty. Conversely, anybody who was against brexit and believes in European unity, you have no right to deny Scotland it's chance to break away from the stupidity of the English and rejoin the EU. So: brexiters - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last 5 years telling anybody pro-union that they are wrong. And remainers - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last five years trying to find any possible way to stay part of the EU. Cant argue with that I've got nothing against them going their own way if thats what they want. And they have to put up with the typical little englander 'world revolves around us'attitiude. I have seen you use the term “ little englander” several times in recent posts. Would you be so kind as to tell me your definition of the term please. Well..if it was in the dictionary..it would probably be under a picture of mr nigel Farage. Who you must clearly work for. You seem so intent on making the left look daft. Come on, you're a Farage stooge aren't you ![]() You didn't answer my question. The phrase has been around for about 200 years,and the closest modern example I can think of is our nigel. I probally wouldnt even have boris down as one tbh. | |||
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"Without wishing to take any particular side... I fail to see how any person who was in favour of brexit dare say that Scotland should not be allowed independence. If you think it was a good idea for Britain to divorce itself from Europe, then you have disqualified yourself from any authority to prevent parts of the UK wanting their own sovereignty. Conversely, anybody who was against brexit and believes in European unity, you have no right to deny Scotland it's chance to break away from the stupidity of the English and rejoin the EU. So: brexiters - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last 5 years telling anybody pro-union that they are wrong. And remainers - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last five years trying to find any possible way to stay part of the EU. Cant argue with that I've got nothing against them going their own way if thats what they want. And they have to put up with the typical little englander 'world revolves around us'attitiude. I have seen you use the term “ little englander” several times in recent posts. Would you be so kind as to tell me your definition of the term please. Well..if it was in the dictionary..it would probably be under a picture of mr nigel Farage. I don’t want a dictionary definition it was yours I was interested in. Is it as an insult? Just so I’m clear what you are calling people... Depends which way you look at it? Some people may be proud of the moniker Someone who basically thinks the world revolves around us. On the post about Scotland the other day,one of the 1st replies was to give us back all the money you owe us. Ignoring completely the money we have took from Scotland. To me..that is a clsssic litle englander attitude You have given attitudes they display, what is a little englander..?? Someone who thinks the world resolves round us. Do you mean an English person?? And how do you know the nationality of someone making their point on here to label them as such Your definition is eagerly awaited" I'm from england and I certainly dont think the world revolves around us. Are you denying the term exists or just my interpretation? | |||
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"Without wishing to take any particular side... I fail to see how any person who was in favour of brexit dare say that Scotland should not be allowed independence. If you think it was a good idea for Britain to divorce itself from Europe, then you have disqualified yourself from any authority to prevent parts of the UK wanting their own sovereignty. Conversely, anybody who was against brexit and believes in European unity, you have no right to deny Scotland it's chance to break away from the stupidity of the English and rejoin the EU. So: brexiters - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last 5 years telling anybody pro-union that they are wrong. And remainers - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last five years trying to find any possible way to stay part of the EU. Cant argue with that I've got nothing against them going their own way if thats what they want. And they have to put up with the typical little englander 'world revolves around us'attitiude. I have seen you use the term “ little englander” several times in recent posts. Would you be so kind as to tell me your definition of the term please. Well..if it was in the dictionary..it would probably be under a picture of mr nigel Farage. I don’t want a dictionary definition it was yours I was interested in. Is it as an insult? Just so I’m clear what you are calling people... Depends which way you look at it? Some people may be proud of the moniker Someone who basically thinks the world revolves around us. On the post about Scotland the other day,one of the 1st replies was to give us back all the money you owe us. Ignoring completely the money we have took from Scotland. To me..that is a clsssic litle englander attitude wtf is a moniker lol A nickname for what tho ?" A little englander | |||
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"Without wishing to take any particular side... I fail to see how any person who was in favour of brexit dare say that Scotland should not be allowed independence. If you think it was a good idea for Britain to divorce itself from Europe, then you have disqualified yourself from any authority to prevent parts of the UK wanting their own sovereignty. Conversely, anybody who was against brexit and believes in European unity, you have no right to deny Scotland it's chance to break away from the stupidity of the English and rejoin the EU. So: brexiters - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last 5 years telling anybody pro-union that they are wrong. And remainers - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last five years trying to find any possible way to stay part of the EU. Cant argue with that I've got nothing against them going their own way if thats what they want. And they have to put up with the typical little englander 'world revolves around us'attitiude. I have seen you use the term “ little englander” several times in recent posts. Would you be so kind as to tell me your definition of the term please. Well..if it was in the dictionary..it would probably be under a picture of mr nigel Farage. Who you must clearly work for. You seem so intent on making the left look daft. Come on, you're a Farage stooge aren't you ![]() Yes but you always resort to asking a question instead addressing the point Anyway, I think you get my point. Enough said | |||
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"Without wishing to take any particular side... I fail to see how any person who was in favour of brexit dare say that Scotland should not be allowed independence. If you think it was a good idea for Britain to divorce itself from Europe, then you have disqualified yourself from any pauthority to prevent parts of the UK wanting their own sovereignty. Conversely, anybody who was against brexit and believes in European unity, you have no right to deny Scotland it's chance to break away from the stupidity of the English and rejoin the EU. So: brexiters - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last 5 years telling anybody pro-union that they are wrong. And remainers - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last five years trying to find any possible way to stay part of the EU. Cant argue with that I've got nothing against them going their own way if thats what they want. And they have to put up with the typical little englander 'world revolves around us'attitiude. I have seen you use the term “ little englander” several times in recent posts. Would you be so kind as to tell me your definition of the term please. Well..if it was in the dictionary..it would probably be under a picture of mr nigel Farage. Who you must clearly work for. You seem so intent on making the left look daft. Come on, you're a Farage stooge aren't you ![]() Your question stated “ are you saying” I answered pointing out “ I wasn’t saying anything... so I did answer your question. Are you now going to answer mine or just keep asking question after question. Something else you always do on here, try and change the subject as you have no answer... Answer the original question | |||
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"Though I agree 100% with the rights of the Scots to do so, I would rather they didn't. It flies in the face of the history of Europe. Basically Europe has become more and more stable over the centuries, through the process of smaller countries joining together to form larger entities. You could argue the EU is the natural evolution of that. Even England was formed from smaller kingdoms. Italy, Germany, France etc. etc. If the UK had stayed in the EU this would probably not be happening. I think it's sad and probably to the detriment of both countries." The SNP is built on the foundation of Scotland becoming independent from the UK. I doubt very much this primary goal would be rested had the UK remained in the EU. | |||
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"Without wishing to take any particular side... I fail to see how any person who was in favour of brexit dare say that Scotland should not be allowed independence. If you think it was a good idea for Britain to divorce itself from Europe, then you have disqualified yourself from any pauthority to prevent parts of the UK wanting their own sovereignty. Conversely, anybody who was against brexit and believes in European unity, you have no right to deny Scotland it's chance to break away from the stupidity of the English and rejoin the EU. So: brexiters - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last 5 years telling anybody pro-union that they are wrong. And remainers - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last five years trying to find any possible way to stay part of the EU. Cant argue with that I've got nothing against them going their own way if thats what they want. And they have to put up with the typical little englander 'world revolves around us'attitiude. I have seen you use the term “ little englander” several times in recent posts. Would you be so kind as to tell me your definition of the term please. Well..if it was in the dictionary..it would probably be under a picture of mr nigel Farage. Who you must clearly work for. You seem so intent on making the left look daft. Come on, you're a Farage stooge aren't you ![]() For the 2nd time The reply wasnt directed at you For the 2nd time Someone who thinks the world revolves around us I'll add someone who sees us as superior to other countries and is in many cases dismissive of them. They may have an lingering affection for the days we ruled the seas or at least when we won the war. | |||
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"Though I agree 100% with the rights of the Scots to do so, I would rather they didn't. It flies in the face of the history of Europe. Basically Europe has become more and more stable over the centuries, through the process of smaller countries joining together to form larger entities. You could argue the EU is the natural evolution of that. Even England was formed from smaller kingdoms. Italy, Germany, France etc. etc. If the UK had stayed in the EU this would probably not be happening. I think it's sad and probably to the detriment of both countries. The SNP is built on the foundation of Scotland becoming independent from the UK. I doubt very much this primary goal would be rested had the UK remained in the EU." You dont think Brexit has given the snp impetus? | |||
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"Without wishing to take any particular side... I fail to see how any person who was in favour of brexit dare say that Scotland should not be allowed independence. If you think it was a good idea for Britain to divorce itself from Europe, then you have disqualified yourself from any authority to prevent parts of the UK wanting their own sovereignty. Conversely, anybody who was against brexit and believes in European unity, you have no right to deny Scotland it's chance to break away from the stupidity of the English and rejoin the EU. So: brexiters - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last 5 years telling anybody pro-union that they are wrong. And remainers - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last five years trying to find any possible way to stay part of the EU. Cant argue with that I've got nothing against them going their own way if thats what they want. And they have to put up with the typical little englander 'world revolves around us'attitiude. I have seen you use the term “ little englander” several times in recent posts. Would you be so kind as to tell me your definition of the term please. Well..if it was in the dictionary..it would probably be under a picture of mr nigel Farage. Who you must clearly work for. You seem so intent on making the left look daft. Come on, you're a Farage stooge aren't you ![]() So you have given examples of people you think are and aren’t little englanders So tell me what makes one a little englander and not the other Your own definition in words please.. | |||
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"Without wishing to take any particular side... I fail to see how any person who was in favour of brexit dare say that Scotland should not be allowed independence. If you think it was a good idea for Britain to divorce itself from Europe, then you have disqualified yourself from any authority to prevent parts of the UK wanting their own sovereignty. Conversely, anybody who was against brexit and believes in European unity, you have no right to deny Scotland it's chance to break away from the stupidity of the English and rejoin the EU. So: brexiters - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last 5 years telling anybody pro-union that they are wrong. And remainers - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last five years trying to find any possible way to stay part of the EU. Cant argue with that I've got nothing against them going their own way if thats what they want. And they have to put up with the typical little englander 'world revolves around us'attitiude. I have seen you use the term “ little englander” several times in recent posts. Would you be so kind as to tell me your definition of the term please. Well..if it was in the dictionary..it would probably be under a picture of mr nigel Farage. Who you must clearly work for. You seem so intent on making the left look daft. Come on, you're a Farage stooge aren't you ![]() See above Are you going to answer my question? | |||
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"Without wishing to take any particular side... I fail to see how any person who was in favour of brexit dare say that Scotland should not be allowed independence. If you think it was a good idea for Britain to divorce itself from Europe, then you have disqualified yourself from any pauthority to prevent parts of the UK wanting their own sovereignty. Conversely, anybody who was against brexit and believes in European unity, you have no right to deny Scotland it's chance to break away from the stupidity of the English and rejoin the EU. So: brexiters - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last 5 years telling anybody pro-union that they are wrong. And remainers - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last five years trying to find any possible way to stay part of the EU. Cant argue with that I've got nothing against them going their own way if thats what they want. And they have to put up with the typical little englander 'world revolves around us'attitiude. I have seen you use the term “ little englander” several times in recent posts. Would you be so kind as to tell me your definition of the term please. Well..if it was in the dictionary..it would probably be under a picture of mr nigel Farage. Who you must clearly work for. You seem so intent on making the left look daft. Come on, you're a Farage stooge aren't you ![]() You keeping using the term us, us who is us and we who are we..?? | |||
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"Though I agree 100% with the rights of the Scots to do so, I would rather they didn't. It flies in the face of the history of Europe. Basically Europe has become more and more stable over the centuries, through the process of smaller countries joining together to form larger entities. You could argue the EU is the natural evolution of that. Even England was formed from smaller kingdoms. Italy, Germany, France etc. etc. If the UK had stayed in the EU this would probably not be happening. I think it's sad and probably to the detriment of both countries. The SNP is built on the foundation of Scotland becoming independent from the UK. I doubt very much this primary goal would be rested had the UK remained in the EU. You dont think Brexit has given the snp impetus?" No. The EU issue is a lie. And just an excuse. They had a referendum in 2014 in the certain knowledge that had they won they would have been out of the EU | |||
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"Without wishing to take any particular side... I fail to see how any person who was in favour of brexit dare say that Scotland should not be allowed independence. If you think it was a good idea for Britain to divorce itself from Europe, then you have disqualified yourself from any pauthority to prevent parts of the UK wanting their own sovereignty. Conversely, anybody who was against brexit and believes in European unity, you have no right to deny Scotland it's chance to break away from the stupidity of the English and rejoin the EU. So: brexiters - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last 5 years telling anybody pro-union that they are wrong. And remainers - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last five years trying to find any possible way to stay part of the EU. Cant argue with that I've got nothing against them going their own way if thats what they want. And they have to put up with the typical little englander 'world revolves around us'attitiude. I have seen you use the term “ little englander” several times in recent posts. Would you be so kind as to tell me your definition of the term please. Well..if it was in the dictionary..it would probably be under a picture of mr nigel Farage. Who you must clearly work for. You seem so intent on making the left look daft. Come on, you're a Farage stooge aren't you ![]() This country. Who do you think I mean, | |||
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"Without wishing to take any particular side... I fail to see how any person who was in favour of brexit dare say that Scotland should not be allowed independence. If you think it was a good idea for Britain to divorce itself from Europe, then you have disqualified yourself from any authority to prevent parts of the UK wanting their own sovereignty. Conversely, anybody who was against brexit and believes in European unity, you have no right to deny Scotland it's chance to break away from the stupidity of the English and rejoin the EU. So: brexiters - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last 5 years telling anybody pro-union that they are wrong. And remainers - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last five years trying to find any possible way to stay part of the EU. Cant argue with that I've got nothing against them going their own way if thats what they want. And they have to put up with the typical little englander 'world revolves around us'attitiude. I have seen you use the term “ little englander” several times in recent posts. Would you be so kind as to tell me your definition of the term please. Well..if it was in the dictionary..it would probably be under a picture of mr nigel Farage. Who you must clearly work for. You seem so intent on making the left look daft. Come on, you're a Farage stooge aren't you ![]() Who is the are you going to answer my question directed at. You keep telling me it’s not directed at me then add it back on your replies to my posts.?? | |||
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"Without wishing to take any particular side... I fail to see how any person who was in favour of brexit dare say that Scotland should not be allowed independence. If you think it was a good idea for Britain to divorce itself from Europe, then you have disqualified yourself from any authority to prevent parts of the UK wanting their own sovereignty. Conversely, anybody who was against brexit and believes in European unity, you have no right to deny Scotland it's chance to break away from the stupidity of the English and rejoin the EU. So: brexiters - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last 5 years telling anybody pro-union that they are wrong. And remainers - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last five years trying to find any possible way to stay part of the EU. Cant argue with that I've got nothing against them going their own way if thats what they want. And they have to put up with the typical little englander 'world revolves around us'attitiude. I have seen you use the term “ little englander” several times in recent posts. Would you be so kind as to tell me your definition of the term please. Well..if it was in the dictionary..it would probably be under a picture of mr nigel Farage. Who you must clearly work for. You seem so intent on making the left look daft. Come on, you're a Farage stooge aren't you ![]() I asked do you think the concept of a little englander exists? | |||
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"Without wishing to take any particular side... I fail to see how any person who was in favour of brexit dare say that Scotland should not be allowed independence. If you think it was a good idea for Britain to divorce itself from Europe, then you have disqualified yourself from any pauthority to prevent parts of the UK wanting their own sovereignty. Conversely, anybody who was against brexit and believes in European unity, you have no right to deny Scotland it's chance to break away from the stupidity of the English and rejoin the EU. So: brexiters - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last 5 years telling anybody pro-union that they are wrong. And remainers - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last five years trying to find any possible way to stay part of the EU. Cant argue with that I've got nothing against them going their own way if thats what they want. And they have to put up with the typical little englander 'world revolves around us'attitiude. I have seen you use the term “ little englander” several times in recent posts. Would you be so kind as to tell me your definition of the term please. Well..if it was in the dictionary..it would probably be under a picture of mr nigel Farage. Who you must clearly work for. You seem so intent on making the left look daft. Come on, you're a Farage stooge aren't you ![]() This country... which country is that?? Is that you being a little englander assuming everyone on here is English That is who I mean, | |||
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"Though I agree 100% with the rights of the Scots to do so, I would rather they didn't. It flies in the face of the history of Europe. Basically Europe has become more and more stable over the centuries, through the process of smaller countries joining together to form larger entities. You could argue the EU is the natural evolution of that. Even England was formed from smaller kingdoms. Italy, Germany, France etc. etc. If the UK had stayed in the EU this would probably not be happening. I think it's sad and probably to the detriment of both countries. The SNP is built on the foundation of Scotland becoming independent from the UK. I doubt very much this primary goal would be rested had the UK remained in the EU. You dont think Brexit has given the snp impetus? No. The EU issue is a lie. And just an excuse. They had a referendum in 2014 in the certain knowledge that had they won they would have been out of the EU " There was no such knowledge at the time. Just claims and counter-claims ![]() | |||
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"Without wishing to take any particular side... I fail to see how any person who was in favour of brexit dare say that Scotland should not be allowed independence. If you think it was a good idea for Britain to divorce itself from Europe, then you have disqualified yourself from any pauthority to prevent parts of the UK wanting their own sovereignty. Conversely, anybody who was against brexit and believes in European unity, you have no right to deny Scotland it's chance to break away from the stupidity of the English and rejoin the EU. So: brexiters - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last 5 years telling anybody pro-union that they are wrong. And remainers - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last five years trying to find any possible way to stay part of the EU. Cant argue with that I've got nothing against them going their own way if thats what they want. And they have to put up with the typical little englander 'world revolves around us'attitiude. I have seen you use the term “ little englander” several times in recent posts. Would you be so kind as to tell me your definition of the term please. Well..if it was in the dictionary..it would probably be under a picture of mr nigel Farage. Who you must clearly work for. You seem so intent on making the left look daft. Come on, you're a Farage stooge aren't you ![]() Did I say everyone on here was a little englander? | |||
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"Without wishing to take any particular side... I fail to see how any person who was in favour of brexit dare say that Scotland should not be allowed independence. If you think it was a good idea for Britain to divorce itself from Europe, then you have disqualified yourself from any authority to prevent parts of the UK wanting their own sovereignty. Conversely, anybody who was against brexit and believes in European unity, you have no right to deny Scotland it's chance to break away from the stupidity of the English and rejoin the EU. So: brexiters - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last 5 years telling anybody pro-union that they are wrong. And remainers - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last five years trying to find any possible way to stay part of the EU. Cant argue with that I've got nothing against them going their own way if thats what they want. And they have to put up with the typical little englander 'world revolves around us'attitiude. I have seen you use the term “ little englander” several times in recent posts. Would you be so kind as to tell me your definition of the term please. Well..if it was in the dictionary..it would probably be under a picture of mr nigel Farage. Who you must clearly work for. You seem so intent on making the left look daft. Come on, you're a Farage stooge aren't you ![]() Yes I do, but that is not the issue. The issue was what is YOUR definition which you have spectacularly failed to give. Are you now going to give a definition or is it beyond you..?? | |||
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"Probably because no party wants the break up of the union on their cv,the boarder will become an issue too even though it would make economic sense to let scotland go its own way.just for the record im English and if the people of scotland want independence they should have it. True it would be on their watch, which I think will be Conservative party as Labour has very little chance of getting in without the Scottish vote. A good point." take care what you wish for Trump has his eye on Scotland, just look at his investments there | |||
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"Without wishing to take any particular side... I fail to see how any person who was in favour of brexit dare say that Scotland should not be allowed independence. If you think it was a good idea for Britain to divorce itself from Europe, then you have disqualified yourself from any authority to prevent parts of the UK wanting their own sovereignty. Conversely, anybody who was against brexit and believes in European unity, you have no right to deny Scotland it's chance to break away from the stupidity of the English and rejoin the EU. So: brexiters - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last 5 years telling anybody pro-union that they are wrong. And remainers - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last five years trying to find any possible way to stay part of the EU. Cant argue with that I've got nothing against them going their own way if thats what they want. And they have to put up with the typical little englander 'world revolves around us'attitiude. I have seen you use the term “ little englander” several times in recent posts. Would you be so kind as to tell me your definition of the term please. Well..if it was in the dictionary..it would probably be under a picture of mr nigel Farage. Who you must clearly work for. You seem so intent on making the left look daft. Come on, you're a Farage stooge aren't you ![]() You mean beyond the 2 definitions I have provided already? | |||
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"Without wishing to take any particular side... I fail to see how any person who was in favour of brexit dare say that Scotland should not be allowed independence. If you think it was a good idea for Britain to divorce itself from Europe, then you have disqualified yourself from any pauthority to prevent parts of the UK wanting their own sovereignty. Conversely, anybody who was against brexit and believes in European unity, you have no right to deny Scotland it's chance to break away from the stupidity of the English and rejoin the EU. So: brexiters - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last 5 years telling anybody pro-union that they are wrong. And remainers - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last five years trying to find any possible way to stay part of the EU. Cant argue with that I've got nothing against them going their own way if thats what they want. And they have to put up with the typical little englander 'world revolves around us'attitiude. I have seen you use the term “ little englander” several times in recent posts. Would you be so kind as to tell me your definition of the term please. Well..if it was in the dictionary..it would probably be under a picture of mr nigel Farage. Who you must clearly work for. You seem so intent on making the left look daft. Come on, you're a Farage stooge aren't you ![]() We’ll simply explain who you mean by we and us.. You said this country.. Which country..?? | |||
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"Though I agree 100% with the rights of the Scots to do so, I would rather they didn't. It flies in the face of the history of Europe. Basically Europe has become more and more stable over the centuries, through the process of smaller countries joining together to form larger entities. You could argue the EU is the natural evolution of that. Even England was formed from smaller kingdoms. Italy, Germany, France etc. etc. If the UK had stayed in the EU this would probably not be happening. I think it's sad and probably to the detriment of both countries. The SNP is built on the foundation of Scotland becoming independent from the UK. I doubt very much this primary goal would be rested had the UK remained in the EU." No, certainly. They've been at it for a long time. But the EU question seemed to be something the last indyref turned on. And it has given them an excuse to raise the question again a bit sooner than the advertised once in a lifetime. | |||
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"Without wishing to take any particular side... I fail to see how any person who was in favour of brexit dare say that Scotland should not be allowed independence. If you think it was a good idea for Britain to divorce itself from Europe, then you have disqualified yourself from any pauthority to prevent parts of the UK wanting their own sovereignty. Conversely, anybody who was against brexit and believes in European unity, you have no right to deny Scotland it's chance to break away from the stupidity of the English and rejoin the EU. So: brexiters - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last 5 years telling anybody pro-union that they are wrong. And remainers - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last five years trying to find any possible way to stay part of the EU. Cant argue with that I've got nothing against them going their own way if thats what they want. And they have to put up with the typical little englander 'world revolves around us'attitiude. I have seen you use the term “ little englander” several times in recent posts. Would you be so kind as to tell me your definition of the term please. Well..if it was in the dictionary..it would probably be under a picture of mr nigel Farage. Who you must clearly work for. You seem so intent on making the left look daft. Come on, you're a Farage stooge aren't you ![]() Yep I'm done. | |||
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"Without wishing to take any particular side... I fail to see how any person who was in favour of brexit dare say that Scotland should not be allowed independence. If you think it was a good idea for Britain to divorce itself from Europe, then you have disqualified yourself from any authority to prevent parts of the UK wanting their own sovereignty. Conversely, anybody who was against brexit and believes in European unity, you have no right to deny Scotland it's chance to break away from the stupidity of the English and rejoin the EU. So: brexiters - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last 5 years telling anybody pro-union that they are wrong. And remainers - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last five years trying to find any possible way to stay part of the EU. Cant argue with that I've got nothing against them going their own way if thats what they want. And they have to put up with the typical little englander 'world revolves around us'attitiude. I have seen you use the term “ little englander” several times in recent posts. Would you be so kind as to tell me your definition of the term please. Well..if it was in the dictionary..it would probably be under a picture of mr nigel Farage. Who you must clearly work for. You seem so intent on making the left look daft. Come on, you're a Farage stooge aren't you ![]() You have given attitudes displayed and examples of who you think is and isn’t . You have utterly failed to provide any definition of your own which is all I asked... | |||
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"Without wishing to take any particular side... I fail to see how any person who was in favour of brexit dare say that Scotland should not be allowed independence. If you think it was a good idea for Britain to divorce itself from Europe, then you have disqualified yourself from any pauthority to prevent parts of the UK wanting their own sovereignty. Conversely, anybody who was against brexit and believes in European unity, you have no right to deny Scotland it's chance to break away from the stupidity of the English and rejoin the EU. So: brexiters - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last 5 years telling anybody pro-union that they are wrong. And remainers - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last five years trying to find any possible way to stay part of the EU. Cant argue with that I've got nothing against them going their own way if thats what they want. And they have to put up with the typical little englander 'world revolves around us'attitiude. I have seen you use the term “ little englander” several times in recent posts. Would you be so kind as to tell me your definition of the term please. Well..if it was in the dictionary..it would probably be under a picture of mr nigel Farage. Who you must clearly work for. You seem so intent on making the left look daft. Come on, you're a Farage stooge aren't you ![]() Your stock answer when you have no reasonable answer... | |||
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"Without wishing to take any particular side... I fail to see how any person who was in favour of brexit dare say that Scotland should not be allowed independence. If you think it was a good idea for Britain to divorce itself from Europe, then you have disqualified yourself from any authority to prevent parts of the UK wanting their own sovereignty. Conversely, anybody who was against brexit and believes in European unity, you have no right to deny Scotland it's chance to break away from the stupidity of the English and rejoin the EU. So: brexiters - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last 5 years telling anybody pro-union that they are wrong. And remainers - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last five years trying to find any possible way to stay part of the EU. Cant argue with that I've got nothing against them going their own way if thats what they want. And they have to put up with the typical little englander 'world revolves around us'attitiude. I have seen you use the term “ little englander” several times in recent posts. Would you be so kind as to tell me your definition of the term please. Well..if it was in the dictionary..it would probably be under a picture of mr nigel Farage. Who you must clearly work for. You seem so intent on making the left look daft. Come on, you're a Farage stooge aren't you ![]() So if you asked me to describe a racist I would say someone who is prejudiced to other races That wouldnt be a proper defeniton according to you..it would just be the attitudes they displayed? | |||
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"Without wishing to take any particular side... I fail to see how any person who was in favour of brexit dare say that Scotland should not be allowed independence. If you think it was a good idea for Britain to divorce itself from Europe, then you have disqualified yourself from any authority to prevent parts of the UK wanting their own sovereignty. Conversely, anybody who was against brexit and believes in European unity, you have no right to deny Scotland it's chance to break away from the stupidity of the English and rejoin the EU. So: brexiters - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last 5 years telling anybody pro-union that they are wrong. And remainers - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last five years trying to find any possible way to stay part of the EU. Cant argue with that I've got nothing against them going their own way if thats what they want. And they have to put up with the typical little englander 'world revolves around us'attitiude. I have seen you use the term “ little englander” several times in recent posts. Would you be so kind as to tell me your definition of the term please. Well..if it was in the dictionary..it would probably be under a picture of mr nigel Farage. Who you must clearly work for. You seem so intent on making the left look daft. Come on, you're a Farage stooge aren't you ![]() Can you answer the original question not ask another about another subject. Another of your favourite get out traits... A simple definition, your opinion not an opinion you ask me to form from a picture of someone you quote.... | |||
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"Without wishing to take any particular side... I fail to see how any person who was in favour of brexit dare say that Scotland should not be allowed independence. If you think it was a good idea for Britain to divorce itself from Europe, then you have disqualified yourself from any authority to prevent parts of the UK wanting their own sovereignty. Conversely, anybody who was against brexit and believes in European unity, you have no right to deny Scotland it's chance to break away from the stupidity of the English and rejoin the EU. So: brexiters - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last 5 years telling anybody pro-union that they are wrong. And remainers - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last five years trying to find any possible way to stay part of the EU. Cant argue with that I've got nothing against them going their own way if thats what they want. And they have to put up with the typical little englander 'world revolves around us'attitiude. I have seen you use the term “ little englander” several times in recent posts. Would you be so kind as to tell me your definition of the term please. Well..if it was in the dictionary..it would probably be under a picture of mr nigel Farage. Who you must clearly work for. You seem so intent on making the left look daft. Come on, you're a Farage stooge aren't you ![]() I have provided you with 2 definitions. According to you a defeniton is nothing to do with your attitude. The official defetion of a little englander is someone who opposes foreign policy. Perhaps you should contact them as by your reasoning..this isnt a proper definition . | |||
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"Without wishing to take any particular side... I fail to see how any person who was in favour of brexit dare say that Scotland should not be allowed independence. If you think it was a good idea for Britain to divorce itself from Europe, then you have disqualified yourself from any authority to prevent parts of the UK wanting their own sovereignty. Conversely, anybody who was against brexit and believes in European unity, you have no right to deny Scotland it's chance to break away from the stupidity of the English and rejoin the EU. So: brexiters - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last 5 years telling anybody pro-union that they are wrong. And remainers - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last five years trying to find any possible way to stay part of the EU. Cant argue with that I've got nothing against them going their own way if thats what they want. And they have to put up with the typical little englander 'world revolves around us'attitiude. I have seen you use the term “ little englander” several times in recent posts. Would you be so kind as to tell me your definition of the term please. Well..if it was in the dictionary..it would probably be under a picture of mr nigel Farage. Who you must clearly work for. You seem so intent on making the left look daft. Come on, you're a Farage stooge aren't you ![]() I didn’t want someone else definition I wanted yours.. You bandy the phrase around at will on here. Therefore it is not unreasonable to ask what YOU mean by it, And you have certainly not provided one definition let alone two( of your own) You quote we, us, this country I ask again who is we? Who is us? Which country or was I right that you are displaying what I think is a little englander attitude assuming all and sundry is English or England. | |||
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"Without wishing to take any particular side... I fail to see how any person who was in favour of brexit dare say that Scotland should not be allowed independence. If you think it was a good idea for Britain to divorce itself from Europe, then you have disqualified yourself from any authority to prevent parts of the UK wanting their own sovereignty. Conversely, anybody who was against brexit and believes in European unity, you have no right to deny Scotland it's chance to break away from the stupidity of the English and rejoin the EU. So: brexiters - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last 5 years telling anybody pro-union that they are wrong. And remainers - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last five years trying to find any possible way to stay part of the EU. Cant argue with that I've got nothing against them going their own way if thats what they want. And they have to put up with the typical little englander 'world revolves around us'attitiude. I have seen you use the term “ little englander” several times in recent posts. Would you be so kind as to tell me your definition of the term please. Well..if it was in the dictionary..it would probably be under a picture of mr nigel Farage. Who you must clearly work for. You seem so intent on making the left look daft. Come on, you're a Farage stooge aren't you ![]() You’re never going to get a straight answer out of him. He demands that others answer his questions but wriggles like a fish on a hook when anyone puts him on the spot and exposes his ignorance. | |||
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"Without wishing to take any particular side... I fail to see how any person who was in favour of brexit dare say that Scotland should not be allowed independence. If you think it was a good idea for Britain to divorce itself from Europe, then you have disqualified yourself from any pauthority to prevent parts of the UK wanting their own sovereignty. Conversely, anybody who was against brexit and believes in European unity, you have no right to deny Scotland it's chance to break away from the stupidity of the English and rejoin the EU. So: brexiters - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last 5 years telling anybody pro-union that they are wrong. And remainers - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last five years trying to find any possible way to stay part of the EU. Cant argue with that I've got nothing against them going their own way if thats what they want. And they have to put up with the typical little englander 'world revolves around us'attitiude. I have seen you use the term “ little englander” several times in recent posts. Would you be so kind as to tell me your definition of the term please. Well..if it was in the dictionary..it would probably be under a picture of mr nigel Farage. Who you must clearly work for. You seem so intent on making the left look daft. Come on, you're a Farage stooge aren't you ![]() 3rd and final time for you and your friend who seem incapable of reading. The definition is at the end Maybe I should highlight it in bold as you seem to be incapable of seeing it. This country is England. The clue is in the title. | |||
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"I've looked all over the net,and can't find an official meaning of the phrase "Little englander" There are many sites explaining the phrase "Little englander " But not official ones, Can you give the link to the official site ?" I'd try Google ![]() | |||
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"I have tried google,no official site though given meaning of it, Where's the link to the official site, Wikipedia doesn't really count as official" I found oxford languages quite helpful..try them ![]() | |||
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"I have tried google,no official site though given meaning of it, Where's the link to the official site, Wikipedia doesn't really count as official" According to Collins Dictionary, the term refers to a person opposed to the extension to the British Empire ( especially back in the 19th Century) By that definition, it would fit Linus Perfectly ?? which I’m sure I dare do you knows too ?? | |||
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"Oxford languages is not official, Try looking on Google what official means,that might help you" Is the cambridge dictionary not official? | |||
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"Without wishing to take any particular side... I fail to see how any person who was in favour of brexit dare say that Scotland should not be allowed independence. If you think it was a good idea for Britain to divorce itself from Europe, then you have disqualified yourself from any pauthority to prevent parts of the UK wanting their own sovereignty. Conversely, anybody who was against brexit and believes in European unity, you have no right to deny Scotland it's chance to break away from the stupidity of the English and rejoin the EU. So: brexiters - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last 5 years telling anybody pro-union that they are wrong. And remainers - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last five years trying to find any possible way to stay part of the EU. Cant argue with that I've got nothing against them going their own way if thats what they want. And they have to put up with the typical little englander 'world revolves around us'attitiude. I have seen you use the term “ little englander” several times in recent posts. Would you be so kind as to tell me your definition of the term please. Well..if it was in the dictionary..it would probably be under a picture of mr nigel Farage. Who you must clearly work for. You seem so intent on making the left look daft. Come on, you're a Farage stooge aren't you ![]() And maybe I should highlight in bold my original question as you seem to have been unable to read or understand it.. Someone and us... who is someone and us...??? And we again... who is we. Are you assuming everyone and everything here is English ?? Very little englander. If the clue was in the title wasn’t by your reckoning a clue in the question to actually say someone from England at the start of any answer or definition and then go on to detail why.. | |||
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"Without wishing to take any particular side... I fail to see how any person who was in favour of brexit dare say that Scotland should not be allowed independence. If you think it was a good idea for Britain to divorce itself from Europe, then you have disqualified yourself from any pauthority to prevent parts of the UK wanting their own sovereignty. Conversely, anybody who was against brexit and believes in European unity, you have no right to deny Scotland it's chance to break away from the stupidity of the English and rejoin the EU. So: brexiters - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last 5 years telling anybody pro-union that they are wrong. And remainers - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last five years trying to find any possible way to stay part of the EU. Cant argue with that I've got nothing against them going their own way if thats what they want. And they have to put up with the typical little englander 'world revolves around us'attitiude. I have seen you use the term “ little englander” several times in recent posts. Would you be so kind as to tell me your definition of the term please. Well..if it was in the dictionary..it would probably be under a picture of mr nigel Farage. Who you must clearly work for. You seem so intent on making the left look daft. Come on, you're a Farage stooge aren't you ![]() As I've never said everyone who is English is a little englander you would assume wrong ![]() | |||
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"The Cambridge dictionary is not official,did you not know that ? Try looking again" Riiiigght | |||
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"Well i mean the Scottish people stopped themselves from becoming independent at their last referendum lol. Lets clear something up a vote for the SNP does not mean that voter wants independence nor does a vote for Sinn Fein mean that voter wants a United Ireland. Its not that black amd white" But surely if you vote for the snp you must agree with their broad opinion? | |||
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"Without wishing to take any particular side... I fail to see how any person who was in favour of brexit dare say that Scotland should not be allowed independence. If you think it was a good idea for Britain to divorce itself from Europe, then you have disqualified yourself from any pauthority to prevent parts of the UK wanting their own sovereignty. Conversely, anybody who was against brexit and believes in European unity, you have no right to deny Scotland it's chance to break away from the stupidity of the English and rejoin the EU. So: brexiters - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last 5 years telling anybody pro-union that they are wrong. And remainers - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last five years trying to find any possible way to stay part of the EU. Cant argue with that I've got nothing against them going their own way if thats what they want. And they have to put up with the typical little englander 'world revolves around us'attitiude. I have seen you use the term “ little englander” several times in recent posts. Would you be so kind as to tell me your definition of the term please. Well..if it was in the dictionary..it would probably be under a picture of mr nigel Farage. Who you must clearly work for. You seem so intent on making the left look daft. Come on, you're a Farage stooge aren't you ![]() ![]() No one said you have. You really have missed the point my man, read it slowly and rationally and it all may make some sense to you.... Somehow I doubt it though..... | |||
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"Without wishing to take any particular side... I fail to see how any person who was in favour of brexit dare say that Scotland should not be allowed independence. If you think it was a good idea for Britain to divorce itself from Europe, then you have disqualified yourself from any pauthority to prevent parts of the UK wanting their own sovereignty. Conversely, anybody who was against brexit and believes in European unity, you have no right to deny Scotland it's chance to break away from the stupidity of the English and rejoin the EU. So: brexiters - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last 5 years telling anybody pro-union that they are wrong. And remainers - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last five years trying to find any possible way to stay part of the EU. Cant argue with that I've got nothing against them going their own way if thats what they want. And they have to put up with the typical little englander 'world revolves around us'attitiude. I have seen you use the term “ little englander” several times in recent posts. Would you be so kind as to tell me your definition of the term please. Well..if it was in the dictionary..it would probably be under a picture of mr nigel Farage. Who you must clearly work for. You seem so intent on making the left look daft. Come on, you're a Farage stooge aren't you ![]() ![]() Whoosh! It’s gone straight over his head! | |||
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"Without wishing to take any particular side... I fail to see how any person who was in favour of brexit dare say that Scotland should not be allowed independence. If you think it was a good idea for Britain to divorce itself from Europe, then you have disqualified yourself from any pauthority to prevent parts of the UK wanting their own sovereignty. Conversely, anybody who was against brexit and believes in European unity, you have no right to deny Scotland it's chance to break away from the stupidity of the English and rejoin the EU. So: brexiters - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last 5 years telling anybody pro-union that they are wrong. And remainers - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last five years trying to find any possible way to stay part of the EU. Cant argue with that I've got nothing against them going their own way if thats what they want. And they have to put up with the typical little englander 'world revolves around us'attitiude. I have seen you use the term “ little englander” several times in recent posts. Would you be so kind as to tell me your definition of the term please. Well..if it was in the dictionary..it would probably be under a picture of mr nigel Farage. Who you must clearly work for. You seem so intent on making the left look daft. Come on, you're a Farage stooge aren't you ![]() ![]() Do you often find people lose the will to lie when you engage them in conversation? | |||
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"Without wishing to take any particular side... I fail to see how any person who was in favour of brexit dare say that Scotland should not be allowed independence. If you think it was a good idea for Britain to divorce itself from Europe, then you have disqualified yourself from any pauthority to prevent parts of the UK wanting their own sovereignty. Conversely, anybody who was against brexit and believes in European unity, you have no right to deny Scotland it's chance to break away from the stupidity of the English and rejoin the EU. So: brexiters - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last 5 years telling anybody pro-union that they are wrong. And remainers - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last five years trying to find any possible way to stay part of the EU. Cant argue with that I've got nothing against them going their own way if thats what they want. And they have to put up with the typical little englander 'world revolves around us'attitiude. I have seen you use the term “ little englander” several times in recent posts. Would you be so kind as to tell me your definition of the term please. Well..if it was in the dictionary..it would probably be under a picture of mr nigel Farage. Who you must clearly work for. You seem so intent on making the left look daft. Come on, you're a Farage stooge aren't you ![]() ![]() Ask a grown up for some help... | |||
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"Without wishing to take any particular side... I fail to see how any person who was in favour of brexit dare say that Scotland should not be allowed independence. If you think it was a good idea for Britain to divorce itself from Europe, then you have disqualified yourself from any pauthority to prevent parts of the UK wanting their own sovereignty. Conversely, anybody who was against brexit and believes in European unity, you have no right to deny Scotland it's chance to break away from the stupidity of the English and rejoin the EU. So: brexiters - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last 5 years telling anybody pro-union that they are wrong. And remainers - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last five years trying to find any possible way to stay part of the EU. Cant argue with that I've got nothing against them going their own way if thats what they want. And they have to put up with the typical little englander 'world revolves around us'attitiude. I have seen you use the term “ little englander” several times in recent posts. Would you be so kind as to tell me your definition of the term please. Well..if it was in the dictionary..it would probably be under a picture of mr nigel Farage. Who you must clearly work for. You seem so intent on making the left look daft. Come on, you're a Farage stooge aren't you ![]() ![]() Must be just me ![]() | |||
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"Without wishing to take any particular side... I fail to see how any person who was in favour of brexit dare say that Scotland should not be allowed independence. If you think it was a good idea for Britain to divorce itself from Europe, then you have disqualified yourself from any pauthority to prevent parts of the UK wanting their own sovereignty. Conversely, anybody who was against brexit and believes in European unity, you have no right to deny Scotland it's chance to break away from the stupidity of the English and rejoin the EU. So: brexiters - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last 5 years telling anybody pro-union that they are wrong. And remainers - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last five years trying to find any possible way to stay part of the EU. Cant argue with that I've got nothing against them going their own way if thats what they want. And they have to put up with the typical little englander 'world revolves around us'attitiude. I have seen you use the term “ little englander” several times in recent posts. Would you be so kind as to tell me your definition of the term please. Well..if it was in the dictionary..it would probably be under a picture of mr nigel Farage. Who you must clearly work for. You seem so intent on making the left look daft. Come on, you're a Farage stooge aren't you ![]() ![]() ![]() At last, we finally agree on something! | |||
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"Without wishing to take any particular side... I fail to see how any person who was in favour of brexit dare say that Scotland should not be allowed independence. If you think it was a good idea for Britain to divorce itself from Europe, then you have disqualified yourself from any pauthority to prevent parts of the UK wanting their own sovereignty. Conversely, anybody who was against brexit and believes in European unity, you have no right to deny Scotland it's chance to break away from the stupidity of the English and rejoin the EU. So: brexiters - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last 5 years telling anybody pro-union that they are wrong. And remainers - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last five years trying to find any possible way to stay part of the EU. Cant argue with that I've got nothing against them going their own way if thats what they want. And they have to put up with the typical little englander 'world revolves around us'attitiude. I have seen you use the term “ little englander” several times in recent posts. Would you be so kind as to tell me your definition of the term please. Well..if it was in the dictionary..it would probably be under a picture of mr nigel Farage. Who you must clearly work for. You seem so intent on making the left look daft. Come on, you're a Farage stooge aren't you ![]() ![]() ![]() I thought it was a self directed question or statement you were making about yourself. but I would love it to have that affect on you.... no more inane drivel.... ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Without wishing to take any particular side... I fail to see how any person who was in favour of brexit dare say that Scotland should not be allowed independence. If you think it was a good idea for Britain to divorce itself from Europe, then you have disqualified yourself from any pauthority to prevent parts of the UK wanting their own sovereignty. Conversely, anybody who was against brexit and believes in European unity, you have no right to deny Scotland it's chance to break away from the stupidity of the English and rejoin the EU. So: brexiters - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last 5 years telling anybody pro-union that they are wrong. And remainers - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last five years trying to find any possible way to stay part of the EU. Cant argue with that I've got nothing against them going their own way if thats what they want. And they have to put up with the typical little englander 'world revolves around us'attitiude. I have seen you use the term “ little englander” several times in recent posts. Would you be so kind as to tell me your definition of the term please. Well..if it was in the dictionary..it would probably be under a picture of mr nigel Farage. Who you must clearly work for. You seem so intent on making the left look daft. Come on, you're a Farage stooge aren't you ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Dont be too hard on yourself Maybe next time try not to put everyone in a coma ![]() | |||
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"Without wishing to take any particular side... I fail to see how any person who was in favour of brexit dare say that Scotland should not be allowed independence. If you think it was a good idea for Britain to divorce itself from Europe, then you have disqualified yourself from any pauthority to prevent parts of the UK wanting their own sovereignty. Conversely, anybody who was against brexit and believes in European unity, you have no right to deny Scotland it's chance to break away from the stupidity of the English and rejoin the EU. So: brexiters - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last 5 years telling anybody pro-union that they are wrong. And remainers - you can't protest against scottish independence, you have spent the last five years trying to find any possible way to stay part of the EU. Cant argue with that I've got nothing against them going their own way if thats what they want. And they have to put up with the typical little englander 'world revolves around us'attitiude. I have seen you use the term “ little englander” several times in recent posts. Would you be so kind as to tell me your definition of the term please. Well..if it was in the dictionary..it would probably be under a picture of mr nigel Farage. Who you must clearly work for. You seem so intent on making the left look daft. Come on, you're a Farage stooge aren't you ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() FFS you’ve just been played but your too stupid to realise it! | |||
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"Not necessarily, im sure whomever you vote for you probably cant agree on every policy they have. Be it left wing or right wing if you truley have an interest in politics you will know niether ideologies will have every policy that will fit well or for the benefit of society. Real politics come from the centre. Scotland should be independent is is one assertion in a long list of what the SNP represent. " I agree. I get that with sein fein but I would have thought most of there support would be from people in favour of indy? I'm no expert though. I know nicola gets some stick on here but I quite admire her | |||
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"Anyone else on here find if you ignore the obsessive little weirdos,they go and pester someone else at some point?" You wish ?? | |||
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"Anyone else on here find if you ignore the obsessive little weirdos,they go and pester someone else at some point?" Another of your favourite get outs.. The only obsessive on here is your self obsessed being.. | |||
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"Not necessarily here in Belfast voting mentality is very much different to many places. Ofcourse the party will have its hardcore band of tagged followers but the general population swing haha forgive the pun " Is there an appetite for independence there? | |||
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"Anyone else on here find if you ignore the obsessive little weirdos,they go and pester someone else at some point? Another of your favourite get outs.. The only obsessive on here is your self obsessed being.." Pot and kettle. For someone that has about half a dozen words on their 3 wk old profile, you sure make up for it with all this BS | |||
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" Romanticism about it is strong but not logical for many " I liked this comment. Would also befit the call for an independent Scotland. | |||
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"Well depends on who you ask lol.. Sinn feiners will tell you yes, DUP, British Govt and even Irish government will say no. Id say its growing,support for a united Ireland is growing simply because of Brexit, i do predict it will dye away its simply down to the uncertainty of Brexit. Fact is if we had a referendum for a UI tomorrow it would lose hands down. Id be a united Irelander myself but not a sinn fein supporter.. A united Irelander with the right set of conditions.. Romanticism about it is strong but not logical for many " Maybe you have just got your heads screwed on and are waiting to see how much of a cock up brexit is going to be.? Be proper historic if it did happen though. | |||
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"Anyone else on here find if you ignore the obsessive little weirdos,they go and pester someone else at some point? Another of your favourite get outs.. The only obsessive on here is your self obsessed being.. Pot and kettle. For someone that has about half a dozen words on their 3 wk old profile, you sure make up for it with all this BS" What has the length of time served on here got to do with it? Does time here make you something special? I think not. You know jack all about me or my past so you are in no position to comment And what has length of profile got to do with it.. Bore off | |||
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"Anyone else on here find if you ignore the obsessive little weirdos,they go and pester someone else at some point? Another of your favourite get outs.. The only obsessive on here is your self obsessed being.. Pot and kettle. For someone that has about half a dozen words on their 3 wk old profile, you sure make up for it with all this BS What has the length of time served on here got to do with it? Does time here make you something special? I think not. You know jack all about me or my past so you are in no position to comment And what has length of profile got to do with it.. Bore off " Did we hit a nerve ? The only bore is you trying to bore the whole forum with your ranting | |||
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"Anyone else on here find if you ignore the obsessive little weirdos,they go and pester someone else at some point? Another of your favourite get outs.. The only obsessive on here is your self obsessed Pot and kettle. For someone that has about half a dozen words on their 3 wk old profile, you sure make up for it with all this BS What has the length of time served on here got to do with it? Does time here make you something special? I think not. You know jack all about me or my past so you are in no position to comment And what has length of profile got to do with it.. Bore off Did we hit a nerve ? The only bore is you trying to bore the whole forum with your ranting" Far from it.... You sneaking around peoples profiles whilst hiding yourself say all I need to know about you... as I said bore off.. | |||
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"I’m not from the Uk but I like the concept of a union if it’s harmonious. I’m a great believer also in self determination so if Scotland wish to break away democratically then so be it. Same with Wales and NI. " Yes that's so important that's its a democratic vote and the vote is respected instead of being told to vote again and again | |||
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"Well many predictions can be made about Brexit but until it happens then it is only hot air. Would be very historic, British colonisation goes back many many hundreds of years, Republic of Ireland is 100 years old next year as is the North of ireland. With the border thats being out in the Irish sea for trade it pushes the UI higher up an agenda and show how better we can work together on this small island rather than not. Make no mistake about it many Republicans want out of the EU also this isnt only a Brexit thing but for Ireland as a whole. " After what's happened in the past a united Ireland would be something that many people never thought would happen. I think it would be amazing. | |||
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"Well we do deserve a referendum at some point but under the terms of the GFA agreement its a triple lock mechanism, if all three locks can be opened then a referendum should be had but i believe its not the right time for it. We have almost have of the population broadly classed as Protestant/Unionist/Loyalist that still feel a UI is a doomsday scenario for them and there for i do believe violence would erupt again. We are still deeply divided here, peacewalls seperate housing estates and integration education hasnt really come on a whole lot in my knowledge. Its hard to debate it with the recent troubles coming up in conversation and its a mentality we need to get out of. " Wouldnt the younger generation of loyalists be a bit more open to progress? | |||
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"Most English people do not realise that organisations such as UDA, UVF, and offshoots of the IRA and INLA still operate and for the most part control working class communites although their influence in loyaliat areas would be much stronger. When people are in a siege mentality tbey back into a corner and will trust the hand that wont feed them. Middle class areas perhaps but most middle class protestants are unionists not loyalists partly why most loyalist group do well in controlling their communites they dont have a politcal mirage to keep up with " I think a lot of english people dont understand the complexities of the situation. | |||
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"I’m not from the Uk but I like the concept of a union if it’s harmonious. I’m a great believer also in self determination so if Scotland wish to break away democratically then so be it. Same with Wales and NI. " Wales' time will come I hope ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I’m not from the Uk but I like the concept of a union if it’s harmonious. I’m a great believer also in self determination so if Scotland wish to break away democratically then so be it. Same with Wales and NI. Wales' time will come I hope ![]() ![]() Think so? I better still be able to get over to llandudno ![]() | |||
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"Most English people do not realise that organisations such as UDA, UVF, and offshoots of the IRA and INLA still operate and for the most part control working class communites although their influence in loyaliat areas would be much stronger. When people are in a siege mentality tbey back into a corner and will trust the hand that wont feed them. Middle class areas perhaps but most middle class protestants are unionists not loyalists partly why most loyalist group do well in controlling their communites they dont have a politcal mirage to keep up with I think a lot of english people dont understand the complexities of the situation. " Little point over complicating this things | |||
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"Let the Jocks have their independence on one condition. That they keep their wailing screeching cat bags outta ear shot. i.e. the bagbloodypipes!! How offensive. Brexiter no doubt." ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I would cast them adrift. I don't like shortcake or marmalade or the way they say worrrrld instead of word. We could make our own whiskey and continue to fish and take oil from their water. If they don't like that they can deploy their Armed Forces.....whoops they don't have any armed forces! I just wish they would stop winging..." Can they fly? | |||
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"You had a wall you can rebuilt it and throw stones at each other over it. ![]() The Donald is unemployed shortly. He can come over and help build a nice high wall like his US/Mexico one and then bugger off to play golf at his course. ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I would cast them adrift. I don't like shortcake or marmalade or the way they say worrrrld instead of word. We could make our own whiskey and continue to fish and take oil from their water. If they don't like that they can deploy their Armed Forces.....whoops they don't have any armed forces! I just wish they would stop winging... Can they fly?" Sorry ...meant to say whinging. | |||
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"As a woman who is English born but lived here for 30yrs I am disappointed in the level of debate surrounding independence. It is all based on faith no hard facts,just a "it will be alright on the night " attitude . I still have an English accent and unfortunately this has caused me to receive a different level of banter these last few years. So disappointed as I still believe the Scots are fair minded people. To divide is to conquer and ask yourself this post independence who will gain ? It won't be you or me or the man in the street for sure. ![]() I used work with several Scots and despite living in England, having English wives and English children they couldn't help but run England and the English down at every opportunity. If England were playing they even used to make a point of supporting the opposing team. It seemed to have been ingrained in them that they should just dislike the English I'm sure its not all Scottish people but that's been my experience anyway | |||
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" If England were playing they even used to make a point of supporting the opposing team " Always ![]() ![]() | |||
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" If England were playing they even used to make a point of supporting the opposing team Always ![]() ![]() The thing is, myself and most people I know have gone from being indifferent about Scottish independence to wishing they'd just get on with it | |||
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" If England were playing they even used to make a point of supporting the opposing team Always ![]() ![]() There is a big difference between the very patriotic Scots who won’t “support” an English sports team and the Scottish nationalists who believe Scotland can be independent. Despite what the polls may suggest, I think more Scots fall in to patriotic “won’t support England sports teams” than there are actual true nationalists. | |||
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" If England were playing they even used to make a point of supporting the opposing team Always ![]() ![]() Oh yes and I acknowledge the difference ![]() | |||
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"Why and when I say England I mean the political parties, Westminster, you if your English. I want to know why (I’m not wanting Scottish opinions and I’m not asking the Welsh or the Irish as they have no say in Scotland becoming independent). So why would you as an English person stop Scotland from leaving the Union. " Scottish people were given a promise that to vote to remain in the UK was to remain in the European Union. That's now changed so I don't see why they shouldn't be given the option of another referendum on their continued UK partnership. There's no credible argument against not doing so. | |||
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"Why and when I say England I mean the political parties, Westminster, you if your English. I want to know why (I’m not wanting Scottish opinions and I’m not asking the Welsh or the Irish as they have no say in Scotland becoming independent). So why would you as an English person stop Scotland from leaving the Union. Scottish people were given a promise that to vote to remain in the UK was to remain in the European Union. That's now changed so I don't see why they shouldn't be given the option of another referendum on their continued UK partnership. There's no credible argument against not doing so. " “Promise” ![]() | |||
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"Why and when I say England I mean the political parties, Westminster, you if your English. I want to know why (I’m not wanting Scottish opinions and I’m not asking the Welsh or the Irish as they have no say in Scotland becoming independent). So why would you as an English person stop Scotland from leaving the Union. Scottish people were given a promise that to vote to remain in the UK was to remain in the European Union. That's now changed so I don't see why they shouldn't be given the option of another referendum on their continued UK partnership. There's no credible argument against not doing so. “Promise” ![]() What other word do you want to use? I notice you're not denying the fact though which is good. Do you think the Scottish should be able to have a referendum on the subject next year? | |||
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"If they want independence let them have it just as long as there is no subsidy and its not a burden financially on the rest of the UK. " It should just be like Brexit, have the vote with no forward planning then try and guess what to do if they return a leave conclusion ![]() | |||
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"Why and when I say England I mean the political parties, Westminster, you if your English. I want to know why (I’m not wanting Scottish opinions and I’m not asking the Welsh or the Irish as they have no say in Scotland becoming independent). So why would you as an English person stop Scotland from leaving the Union. Scottish people were given a promise that to vote to remain in the UK was to remain in the European Union. That's now changed so I don't see why they shouldn't be given the option of another referendum on their continued UK partnership. There's no credible argument against not doing so. “Promise” ![]() No I don’t believe there should be a referendum | |||
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