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By *ackal1 OP Couple
over a year ago
Manchester |
Quotes from Boris prior to the referendum before he decided to go for his moment in the spotlight. Both early 2016
“ This is a market on our doorstep, ready for further exploitation by British firms. The membership fee seems rather small for all that access. Why are we so determined to turn our back on it?”
“ It is also true the single market is of considerable value to many UK companies and consumers: leaving would cause at least some business uncertainty, while embroiling Govt for several years in a fiddly process of negotiating new arrangements, diverting energy from the real problems – low skills, low social mobility, low investment etc – that have nothing to do with Europe.”
2013
“ If we left the EU, we would end this sterile debate, and we would have to recognise that most of our problems are not caused by ‘Brussels’, but by chronic British short-termism, inadequate management, sloth, low skills, a culture of easy gratification and underinvestment in both human and physical capital and infrastructure.”
Ernst and Young figures - 7500 high paid banking jobs have now moved to Europe. Along with the increasing job movement over £1trillion in funds has been moved with this figure expected to dramatically increase if a no deal is added to the pot. The U.K. is losing major listings on the FTSE 100 to Paris. This is all big tax losses to the U.K. government.
The SMMT a non political organisation representing the car industry is calling for a deal as the U.K. car industry calculates a £55Billion loss over 3 years without one.
Brexit keeps giving. Boris did tell you it was a bad idea. You just didn’t listen?
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"Quotes from Boris prior to the referendum before he decided to go for his moment in the spotlight. Both early 2016
“ This is a market on our doorstep, ready for further exploitation by British firms. The membership fee seems rather small for all that access. Why are we so determined to turn our back on it?”
“ It is also true the single market is of considerable value to many UK companies and consumers: leaving would cause at least some business uncertainty, while embroiling Govt for several years in a fiddly process of negotiating new arrangements, diverting energy from the real problems – low skills, low social mobility, low investment etc – that have nothing to do with Europe.”
2013
“ If we left the EU, we would end this sterile debate, and we would have to recognise that most of our problems are not caused by ‘Brussels’, but by chronic British short-termism, inadequate management, sloth, low skills, a culture of easy gratification and underinvestment in both human and physical capital and infrastructure.”
Ernst and Young figures - 7500 high paid banking jobs have now moved to Europe. Along with the increasing job movement over £1trillion in funds has been moved with this figure expected to dramatically increase if a no deal is added to the pot. The U.K. is losing major listings on the FTSE 100 to Paris. This is all big tax losses to the U.K. government.
The SMMT a non political organisation representing the car industry is calling for a deal as the U.K. car industry calculates a £55Billion loss over 3 years without one.
Brexit keeps giving. Boris did tell you it was a bad idea. You just didn’t listen?
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By *ackal1 OP Couple
over a year ago
Manchester |
"What's this......a politician saying one thing, then saying the exact opposite when a sniff of power comes along? Who would have thought this? Surely this is false news....as we all know, our politicians are chock full of integrity, loyalty and truthfulness.  "
Yes regardless of your views on Brexit this is an example of the type of man we have as our PM.
I don’t think he’s fit to run our country and that’s not being pro Tory or labour I’m just talking about the man himself.
We all deserve better left wing right wing, pro Brexit anti Brexit this man is not fit to be our leader. |
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"What's this......a politician saying one thing, then saying the exact opposite when a sniff of power comes along? Who would have thought this? Surely this is false news....as we all know, our politicians are chock full of integrity, loyalty and truthfulness.
Yes regardless of your views on Brexit this is an example of the type of man we have as our PM.
I don’t think he’s fit to run our country and that’s not being pro Tory or labour I’m just talking about the man himself.
We all deserve better left wing right wing, pro Brexit anti Brexit this man is not fit to be our leader. "
He is an opportunist, but people will dismiss this as ‘all politicians are same’ etc etc. On the plus side, he won’t be PM for much longer  |
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By *ackal1 OP Couple
over a year ago
Manchester |
"What's this......a politician saying one thing, then saying the exact opposite when a sniff of power comes along? Who would have thought this? Surely this is false news....as we all know, our politicians are chock full of integrity, loyalty and truthfulness.
Yes regardless of your views on Brexit this is an example of the type of man we have as our PM.
I don’t think he’s fit to run our country and that’s not being pro Tory or labour I’m just talking about the man himself.
We all deserve better left wing right wing, pro Brexit anti Brexit this man is not fit to be our leader.
He is an opportunist, but people will dismiss this as ‘all politicians are same’ etc etc. On the plus side, he won’t be PM for much longer "
He’ll be around until the summer I suspect then when the numbers start to get worse he’ll be away and leave it to some poor sap to try and clean up after him.
Hope I’m wrong for all our sakes but reading that the city are now starting to pile out in a bit more haste is very very concerning .
If he doesn’t get a deal of some sort I suspect we are fucked!
COVID means we have less funds to fight with.
Any business knows you makes changes when you have cash. If you wait until you run out of cash you can’t make the changes. They are made for you.
Our debt is scary. Sunak knows he can’t start a panic so I’m sure will be very careful .
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"What's this......a politician saying one thing, then saying the exact opposite when a sniff of power comes along? Who would have thought this? Surely this is false news....as we all know, our politicians are chock full of integrity, loyalty and truthfulness.
Yes regardless of your views on Brexit this is an example of the type of man we have as our PM.
I don’t think he’s fit to run our country and that’s not being pro Tory or labour I’m just talking about the man himself.
We all deserve better left wing right wing, pro Brexit anti Brexit this man is not fit to be our leader.
He is an opportunist, but people will dismiss this as ‘all politicians are same’ etc etc. On the plus side, he won’t be PM for much longer "
He will be PM for a long time yet |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"What's this......a politician saying one thing, then saying the exact opposite when a sniff of power comes along? Who would have thought this? Surely this is false news....as we all know, our politicians are chock full of integrity, loyalty and truthfulness.
Yes regardless of your views on Brexit this is an example of the type of man we have as our PM.
I don’t think he’s fit to run our country and that’s not being pro Tory or labour I’m just talking about the man himself.
We all deserve better left wing right wing, pro Brexit anti Brexit this man is not fit to be our leader.
He is an opportunist, but people will dismiss this as ‘all politicians are same’ etc etc. On the plus side, he won’t be PM for much longer He will be PM for a long time yet"
Not a chance, he will be gone at some point next year |
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By *ackal1 OP Couple
over a year ago
Manchester |
Notice no one defending the two faced arse.
He was against Brexit until he thought he could be prime minister. Get Brexit done is my watchword fuck the facts and my actual beliefs on how much damage it will cause.
This is the mark of the man we have unfortunately elected our leader. He is making us a joke as the political circles know who he really is. He claimed the Boris bike when it was actually a Ken Livingstone aide.
His own mayoral office said he never did the detail as mayor just the public rambling. They did say he was a good deflector. He’s a story teller but doesn’t care who suffers as long as he looks good. Yes vain was another criticism.
His belief in his own entitlement is overwhelming.
In the First World War the comment lions led by donkeys was the term that resonated.
No disrespect to the brave men and women of that war. But he is looking more and more like the biggest ass on the planet!
We as a country on all political sides deserve so much better.
Vent over .. carry on with perving everyone as not looking to debate just wanted to get it off my chest.
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"Quotes from Boris prior to the referendum before he decided to go for his moment in the spotlight. Both early 2016
“ This is a market on our doorstep, ready for further exploitation by British firms. The membership fee seems rather small for all that access. Why are we so determined to turn our back on it?”
“ It is also true the single market is of considerable value to many UK companies and consumers: leaving would cause at least some business uncertainty, while embroiling Govt for several years in a fiddly process of negotiating new arrangements, diverting energy from the real problems – low skills, low social mobility, low investment etc – that have nothing to do with Europe.”
2013
“ If we left the EU, we would end this sterile debate, and we would have to recognise that most of our problems are not caused by ‘Brussels’, but by chronic British short-termism, inadequate management, sloth, low skills, a culture of easy gratification and underinvestment in both human and physical capital and infrastructure.”
Ernst and Young figures - 7500 high paid banking jobs have now moved to Europe. Along with the increasing job movement over £1trillion in funds has been moved with this figure expected to dramatically increase if a no deal is added to the pot. The U.K. is losing major listings on the FTSE 100 to Paris. This is all big tax losses to the U.K. government.
The SMMT a non political organisation representing the car industry is calling for a deal as the U.K. car industry calculates a £55Billion loss over 3 years without one.
Brexit keeps giving. Boris did tell you it was a bad idea. You just didn’t listen?
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Let's assume the provided statements are true, and this was his position at the time.
The fact is once the vote to leave was made by a majority of the voting population, it then becomes the elected officials role/job to deliver the will of the people, like it or not.
Given the point you're trying to make i think he did well after all the bollox that went on in parliament, trying to overturn the vote. I also think it is safe to say if someone in power had, had that attitude from day 1, UK's position today would be a far better position. |
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"Boris went from dead against the idea of a Brexit due to the economic damage it would cause the UK to Brexits the best thing since sliced bread because he saw the potential personal gain. "
So he knew that Leave would win did he? |
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"Boris went from dead against the idea of a Brexit due to the economic damage it would cause the UK to Brexits the best thing since sliced bread because he saw the potential personal gain. "
Wow such negativity and major, even outrageous supposition on your part |
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By *andy 1Couple
over a year ago
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"Quotes from Boris prior to the referendum before he decided to go for his moment in the spotlight. Both early 2016
“ This is a market on our doorstep, ready for further exploitation by British firms. The membership fee seems rather small for all that access. Why are we so determined to turn our back on it?”
“ It is also true the single market is of considerable value to many UK companies and consumers: leaving would cause at least some business uncertainty, while embroiling Govt for several years in a fiddly process of negotiating new arrangements, diverting energy from the real problems – low skills, low social mobility, low investment etc – that have nothing to do with Europe.”
2013
“ If we left the EU, we would end this sterile debate, and we would have to recognise that most of our problems are not caused by ‘Brussels’, but by chronic British short-termism, inadequate management, sloth, low skills, a culture of easy gratification and underinvestment in both human and physical capital and infrastructure.”
Ernst and Young figures - 7500 high paid banking jobs have now moved to Europe. Along with the increasing job movement over £1trillion in funds has been moved with this figure expected to dramatically increase if a no deal is added to the pot. The U.K. is losing major listings on the FTSE 100 to Paris. This is all big tax losses to the U.K. government.
The SMMT a non political organisation representing the car industry is calling for a deal as the U.K. car industry calculates a £55Billion loss over 3 years without one.
Brexit keeps giving. Boris did tell you it was a bad idea. You just didn’t listen?
Let's assume the provided statements are true, and this was his position at the time.
The fact is once the vote to leave was made by a majority of the voting population, it then becomes the elected officials role/job to deliver the will of the people, like it or not.
Given the point you're trying to make i think he did well after all the bollox that went on in parliament, trying to overturn the vote. I also think it is safe to say if someone in power had, had that attitude from day 1, UK's position today would be a far better position. "
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By *ackal1 OP Couple
over a year ago
Manchester |
"Boris went from dead against the idea of a Brexit due to the economic damage it would cause the UK to Brexits the best thing since sliced bread because he saw the potential personal gain.
So he knew that Leave would win did he? "
These are his words a couple of months before he began to lead the leave campaign so did he suddenly change his mind? Did he fuck he put his own agenda over the U.K.
He didn’t know leave would win but he did know he kept fucking up every job he was given in government including extending that poor woman’s time in Iranian jails.
He knew his days at the top table were numbered and this was a slim chance to leap up into the top job. Remember even Gove said he wasn’t a fit person to be PM.
With Farage and Cummins leading the way he manoeuvred well and avoiding Andre Neil type scrutiny so I will compliment him on avoiding any details .
The three line slogans of Cummins and co ranted out over and over . The bus which 70% of the population believed to be true.
Turkey sending a million people .
I can’t knock him for pulling of the best bullshit job of all time . He did it very well. Especially with the help from the media.
Oh and did you see with our Turkey deal Erdogan wants special status for Turks application for entry into and migration to the U.K. .
Looks like they will be coming after all. |
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"Boris went from dead against the idea of a Brexit due to the economic damage it would cause the UK to Brexits the best thing since sliced bread because he saw the potential personal gain.
So he knew that Leave would win did he?
These are his words a couple of months before he began to lead the leave campaign so did he suddenly change his mind? Did he fuck he put his own agenda over the U.K.
He didn’t know leave would win but he did know he kept fucking up every job he was given in government including extending that poor woman’s time in Iranian jails.
He knew his days at the top table were numbered and this was a slim chance to leap up into the top job. Remember even Gove said he wasn’t a fit person to be PM.
With Farage and Cummins leading the way he manoeuvred well and avoiding Andre Neil type scrutiny so I will compliment him on avoiding any details .
The three line slogans of Cummins and co ranted out over and over . The bus which 70% of the population believed to be true.
Turkey sending a million people .
I can’t knock him for pulling of the best bullshit job of all time . He did it very well. Especially with the help from the media.
Oh and did you see with our Turkey deal Erdogan wants special status for Turks application for entry into and migration to the U.K. .
Looks like they will be coming after all. "
In your rush to berate him you're getting confused with the timing of events  |
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"Boris went from dead against the idea of a Brexit due to the economic damage it would cause the UK to Brexits the best thing since sliced bread because he saw the potential personal gain.
So he knew that Leave would win did he?
These are his words a couple of months before he began to lead the leave campaign so did he suddenly change his mind? Did he fuck he put his own agenda over the U.K.
He didn’t know leave would win but he did know he kept fucking up every job he was given in government including extending that poor woman’s time in Iranian jails.
He knew his days at the top table were numbered and this was a slim chance to leap up into the top job. Remember even Gove said he wasn’t a fit person to be PM.
With Farage and Cummins leading the way he manoeuvred well and avoiding Andre Neil type scrutiny so I will compliment him on avoiding any details .
The three line slogans of Cummins and co ranted out over and over . The bus which 70% of the population believed to be true.
Turkey sending a million people .
I can’t knock him for pulling of the best bullshit job of all time . He did it very well. Especially with the help from the media.
Oh and did you see with our Turkey deal Erdogan wants special status for Turks application for entry into and migration to the U.K. .
Looks like they will be coming after all. "
If you allow the figure (maybe correct may not) the bus is definitely not a lie. It says we send money to the EU. Lets fund the NHS instead. It does not say lets give it all to the NHS |
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By *ackal1 OP Couple
over a year ago
Manchester |
"Boris went from dead against the idea of a Brexit due to the economic damage it would cause the UK to Brexits the best thing since sliced bread because he saw the potential personal gain.
So he knew that Leave would win did he?
These are his words a couple of months before he began to lead the leave campaign so did he suddenly change his mind? Did he fuck he put his own agenda over the U.K.
He didn’t know leave would win but he did know he kept fucking up every job he was given in government including extending that poor woman’s time in Iranian jails.
He knew his days at the top table were numbered and this was a slim chance to leap up into the top job. Remember even Gove said he wasn’t a fit person to be PM.
With Farage and Cummins leading the way he manoeuvred well and avoiding Andre Neil type scrutiny so I will compliment him on avoiding any details .
The three line slogans of Cummins and co ranted out over and over . The bus which 70% of the population believed to be true.
Turkey sending a million people .
I can’t knock him for pulling of the best bullshit job of all time . He did it very well. Especially with the help from the media.
Oh and did you see with our Turkey deal Erdogan wants special status for Turks application for entry into and migration to the U.K. .
Looks like they will be coming after all.
If you allow the figure (maybe correct may not) the bus is definitely not a lie. It says we send money to the EU. Lets fund the NHS instead. It does not say lets give it all to the NHS "
The 70% figure is recorder by a Gallup pill asking if you believed the intention was to give the NHS £350 million . That poll was taken across both leave and remain supporters .
All the 70% said yes.
It worked a treat with its intention so classic misrepresentation. |
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"Boris went from dead against the idea of a Brexit due to the economic damage it would cause the UK to Brexits the best thing since sliced bread because he saw the potential personal gain.
So he knew that Leave would win did he?
These are his words a couple of months before he began to lead the leave campaign so did he suddenly change his mind? Did he fuck he put his own agenda over the U.K.
He didn’t know leave would win but he did know he kept fucking up every job he was given in government including extending that poor woman’s time in Iranian jails.
He knew his days at the top table were numbered and this was a slim chance to leap up into the top job. Remember even Gove said he wasn’t a fit person to be PM.
With Farage and Cummins leading the way he manoeuvred well and avoiding Andre Neil type scrutiny so I will compliment him on avoiding any details .
The three line slogans of Cummins and co ranted out over and over . The bus which 70% of the population believed to be true.
Turkey sending a million people .
I can’t knock him for pulling of the best bullshit job of all time . He did it very well. Especially with the help from the media.
Oh and did you see with our Turkey deal Erdogan wants special status for Turks application for entry into and migration to the U.K. .
Looks like they will be coming after all.
If you allow the figure (maybe correct may not) the bus is definitely not a lie. It says we send money to the EU. Lets fund the NHS instead. It does not say lets give it all to the NHS
The 70% figure is recorder by a Gallup pill asking if you believed the intention was to give the NHS £350 million . That poll was taken across both leave and remain supporters .
All the 70% said yes.
It worked a treat with its intention so classic misrepresentation. "
Disagree with the misrepresentation statement.
A poll eh, well i am impressed cos they ain't ever wrong is they???? Sometimes they even target people they want don't they? |
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"Boris went from dead against the idea of a Brexit due to the economic damage it would cause the UK to Brexits the best thing since sliced bread because he saw the potential personal gain.
So he knew that Leave would win did he?
These are his words a couple of months before he began to lead the leave campaign so did he suddenly change his mind? Did he fuck he put his own agenda over the U.K.
He didn’t know leave would win but he did know he kept fucking up every job he was given in government including extending that poor woman’s time in Iranian jails.
He knew his days at the top table were numbered and this was a slim chance to leap up into the top job. Remember even Gove said he wasn’t a fit person to be PM.
With Farage and Cummins leading the way he manoeuvred well and avoiding Andre Neil type scrutiny so I will compliment him on avoiding any details .
The three line slogans of Cummins and co ranted out over and over . The bus which 70% of the population believed to be true.
Turkey sending a million people .
I can’t knock him for pulling of the best bullshit job of all time . He did it very well. Especially with the help from the media.
Oh and did you see with our Turkey deal Erdogan wants special status for Turks application for entry into and migration to the U.K. .
Looks like they will be coming after all.
If you allow the figure (maybe correct may not) the bus is definitely not a lie. It says we send money to the EU. Lets fund the NHS instead. It does not say lets give it all to the NHS "
Exact words
We send the eu £350m a week
Lets fund the nhs instead
Definitely not a lie?
Ok and grass isnt green
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"Boris went from dead against the idea of a Brexit due to the economic damage it would cause the UK to Brexits the best thing since sliced bread because he saw the potential personal gain.
Wow such negativity and major, even outrageous supposition on your part"
Are you just rewriting history now?
It's a well known fact ge wrote 2 pieces for the spectator.
One pro eu.one against
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By *ackal1 OP Couple
over a year ago
Manchester |
"Boris went from dead against the idea of a Brexit due to the economic damage it would cause the UK to Brexits the best thing since sliced bread because he saw the potential personal gain.
So he knew that Leave would win did he?
These are his words a couple of months before he began to lead the leave campaign so did he suddenly change his mind? Did he fuck he put his own agenda over the U.K.
He didn’t know leave would win but he did know he kept fucking up every job he was given in government including extending that poor woman’s time in Iranian jails.
He knew his days at the top table were numbered and this was a slim chance to leap up into the top job. Remember even Gove said he wasn’t a fit person to be PM.
With Farage and Cummins leading the way he manoeuvred well and avoiding Andre Neil type scrutiny so I will compliment him on avoiding any details .
The three line slogans of Cummins and co ranted out over and over . The bus which 70% of the population believed to be true.
Turkey sending a million people .
I can’t knock him for pulling of the best bullshit job of all time . He did it very well. Especially with the help from the media.
Oh and did you see with our Turkey deal Erdogan wants special status for Turks application for entry into and migration to the U.K. .
Looks like they will be coming after all.
In your rush to berate him you're getting confused with the timing of events "
Happy to accept timing corrections but the intention and his words are quoted . Feel free to say they are not true! And weren’t stated in 2016.
I haven’t checked the dates on the Calendar of intentions in his head .
It’s the same intention whatever day you say it.
He’s a chancer and I fully admit done well with it.
I would love him to be interviewed by Andrew Neil and for him to answer in detail rather than three line slogans .
He never will because he knows he will fail.
I do actually admire Boris for his genuine belief in the bulldog spirit and if we could trade numbers and deals with that spirit great but in reality the numbers set the deal not how you feel about them.
He’s from a Victorian bygone age where Great Britain did actually hold all the cards . And if you said otherwise a grey gunboat would rock up to educate you in the error of your ways.
Sadly we are not that world power anymore .
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"Boris went from dead against the idea of a Brexit due to the economic damage it would cause the UK to Brexits the best thing since sliced bread because he saw the potential personal gain.
So he knew that Leave would win did he?
These are his words a couple of months before he began to lead the leave campaign so did he suddenly change his mind? Did he fuck he put his own agenda over the U.K.
He didn’t know leave would win but he did know he kept fucking up every job he was given in government including extending that poor woman’s time in Iranian jails.
He knew his days at the top table were numbered and this was a slim chance to leap up into the top job. Remember even Gove said he wasn’t a fit person to be PM.
With Farage and Cummins leading the way he manoeuvred well and avoiding Andre Neil type scrutiny so I will compliment him on avoiding any details .
The three line slogans of Cummins and co ranted out over and over . The bus which 70% of the population believed to be true.
Turkey sending a million people .
I can’t knock him for pulling of the best bullshit job of all time . He did it very well. Especially with the help from the media.
Oh and did you see with our Turkey deal Erdogan wants special status for Turks application for entry into and migration to the U.K. .
Looks like they will be coming after all.
If you allow the figure (maybe correct may not) the bus is definitely not a lie. It says we send money to the EU. Lets fund the NHS instead. It does not say lets give it all to the NHS
Exact words
We send the eu £350m a week
Lets fund the nhs instead
Definitely not a lie?
Ok and grass isnt green
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When did he ever say give ALL of it to the NHS? ..... i know never! |
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"Quotes from Boris prior to the referendum before he decided to go for his moment in the spotlight. Both early 2016
“ This is a market on our doorstep, ready for further exploitation by British firms. The membership fee seems rather small for all that access. Why are we so determined to turn our back on it?”
“ It is also true the single market is of considerable value to many UK companies and consumers: leaving would cause at least some business uncertainty, while embroiling Govt for several years in a fiddly process of negotiating new arrangements, diverting energy from the real problems – low skills, low social mobility, low investment etc – that have nothing to do with Europe.”
2013
“ If we left the EU, we would end this sterile debate, and we would have to recognise that most of our problems are not caused by ‘Brussels’, but by chronic British short-termism, inadequate management, sloth, low skills, a culture of easy gratification and underinvestment in both human and physical capital and infrastructure.”
Ernst and Young figures - 7500 high paid banking jobs have now moved to Europe. Along with the increasing job movement over £1trillion in funds has been moved with this figure expected to dramatically increase if a no deal is added to the pot. The U.K. is losing major listings on the FTSE 100 to Paris. This is all big tax losses to the U.K. government.
The SMMT a non political organisation representing the car industry is calling for a deal as the U.K. car industry calculates a £55Billion loss over 3 years without one.
Brexit keeps giving. Boris did tell you it was a bad idea. You just didn’t listen?
Let's assume the provided statements are true, and this was his position at the time.
The fact is once the vote to leave was made by a majority of the voting population, it then becomes the elected officials role/job to deliver the will of the people, like it or not.
Given the point you're trying to make i think he did well after all the bollox that went on in parliament, trying to overturn the vote. I also think it is safe to say if someone in power had, had that attitude from day 1, UK's position today would be a far better position.
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You do remember he voted twice against a very similar deal? So he was actually responsible for some of "the bollox in Parliament"? |
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"Quotes from Boris prior to the referendum before he decided to go for his moment in the spotlight. Both early 2016
“ This is a market on our doorstep, ready for further exploitation by British firms. The membership fee seems rather small for all that access. Why are we so determined to turn our back on it?”
“ It is also true the single market is of considerable value to many UK companies and consumers: leaving would cause at least some business uncertainty, while embroiling Govt for several years in a fiddly process of negotiating new arrangements, diverting energy from the real problems – low skills, low social mobility, low investment etc – that have nothing to do with Europe.”
2013
“ If we left the EU, we would end this sterile debate, and we would have to recognise that most of our problems are not caused by ‘Brussels’, but by chronic British short-termism, inadequate management, sloth, low skills, a culture of easy gratification and underinvestment in both human and physical capital and infrastructure.”
Ernst and Young figures - 7500 high paid banking jobs have now moved to Europe. Along with the increasing job movement over £1trillion in funds has been moved with this figure expected to dramatically increase if a no deal is added to the pot. The U.K. is losing major listings on the FTSE 100 to Paris. This is all big tax losses to the U.K. government.
The SMMT a non political organisation representing the car industry is calling for a deal as the U.K. car industry calculates a £55Billion loss over 3 years without one.
Brexit keeps giving. Boris did tell you it was a bad idea. You just didn’t listen?
Let's assume the provided statements are true, and this was his position at the time.
The fact is once the vote to leave was made by a majority of the voting population, it then becomes the elected officials role/job to deliver the will of the people, like it or not.
Given the point you're trying to make i think he did well after all the bollox that went on in parliament, trying to overturn the vote. I also think it is safe to say if someone in power had, had that attitude from day 1, UK's position today would be a far better position.
You do remember he voted twice against a very similar deal? So he was actually responsible for some of "the bollox in Parliament"? "
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"Boris went from dead against the idea of a Brexit due to the economic damage it would cause the UK to Brexits the best thing since sliced bread because he saw the potential personal gain.
So he knew that Leave would win did he?
These are his words a couple of months before he began to lead the leave campaign so did he suddenly change his mind? Did he fuck he put his own agenda over the U.K.
He didn’t know leave would win but he did know he kept fucking up every job he was given in government including extending that poor woman’s time in Iranian jails.
He knew his days at the top table were numbered and this was a slim chance to leap up into the top job. Remember even Gove said he wasn’t a fit person to be PM.
With Farage and Cummins leading the way he manoeuvred well and avoiding Andre Neil type scrutiny so I will compliment him on avoiding any details .
The three line slogans of Cummins and co ranted out over and over . The bus which 70% of the population believed to be true.
Turkey sending a million people .
I can’t knock him for pulling of the best bullshit job of all time . He did it very well. Especially with the help from the media.
Oh and did you see with our Turkey deal Erdogan wants special status for Turks application for entry into and migration to the U.K. .
Looks like they will be coming after all.
If you allow the figure (maybe correct may not) the bus is definitely not a lie. It says we send money to the EU. Lets fund the NHS instead. It does not say lets give it all to the NHS
Exact words
We send the eu £350m a week
Lets fund the nhs instead
Definitely not a lie?
Ok and grass isnt green
When did he ever say give ALL of it to the NHS? ..... i know never!"
Wow
Just.
Wow |
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over a year ago
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"Quotes from Boris prior to the referendum before he decided to go for his moment in the spotlight. Both early 2016
“ This is a market on our doorstep, ready for further exploitation by British firms. The membership fee seems rather small for all that access. Why are we so determined to turn our back on it?”
“ It is also true the single market is of considerable value to many UK companies and consumers: leaving would cause at least some business uncertainty, while embroiling Govt for several years in a fiddly process of negotiating new arrangements, diverting energy from the real problems – low skills, low social mobility, low investment etc – that have nothing to do with Europe.”
2013
“ If we left the EU, we would end this sterile debate, and we would have to recognise that most of our problems are not caused by ‘Brussels’, but by chronic British short-termism, inadequate management, sloth, low skills, a culture of easy gratification and underinvestment in both human and physical capital and infrastructure.”
Ernst and Young figures - 7500 high paid banking jobs have now moved to Europe. Along with the increasing job movement over £1trillion in funds has been moved with this figure expected to dramatically increase if a no deal is added to the pot. The U.K. is losing major listings on the FTSE 100 to Paris. This is all big tax losses to the U.K. government.
The SMMT a non political organisation representing the car industry is calling for a deal as the U.K. car industry calculates a £55Billion loss over 3 years without one.
Brexit keeps giving. Boris did tell you it was a bad idea. You just didn’t listen?
Let's assume the provided statements are true, and this was his position at the time.
The fact is once the vote to leave was made by a majority of the voting population, it then becomes the elected officials role/job to deliver the will of the people, like it or not.
Given the point you're trying to make i think he did well after all the bollox that went on in parliament, trying to overturn the vote. I also think it is safe to say if someone in power had, had that attitude from day 1, UK's position today would be a far better position.
You do remember he voted twice against a very similar deal? So he was actually responsible for some of "the bollox in Parliament"? "
Yes a true example of the man. Fuck a good deal mine will be no better but I’ll be in charge when I get rid of her!
Sadly it wasn’t .
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"Quotes from Boris prior to the referendum before he decided to go for his moment in the spotlight. Both early 2016
“ This is a market on our doorstep, ready for further exploitation by British firms. The membership fee seems rather small for all that access. Why are we so determined to turn our back on it?”
“ It is also true the single market is of considerable value to many UK companies and consumers: leaving would cause at least some business uncertainty, while embroiling Govt for several years in a fiddly process of negotiating new arrangements, diverting energy from the real problems – low skills, low social mobility, low investment etc – that have nothing to do with Europe.”
2013
“ If we left the EU, we would end this sterile debate, and we would have to recognise that most of our problems are not caused by ‘Brussels’, but by chronic British short-termism, inadequate management, sloth, low skills, a culture of easy gratification and underinvestment in both human and physical capital and infrastructure.”
Ernst and Young figures - 7500 high paid banking jobs have now moved to Europe. Along with the increasing job movement over £1trillion in funds has been moved with this figure expected to dramatically increase if a no deal is added to the pot. The U.K. is losing major listings on the FTSE 100 to Paris. This is all big tax losses to the U.K. government.
The SMMT a non political organisation representing the car industry is calling for a deal as the U.K. car industry calculates a £55Billion loss over 3 years without one.
Brexit keeps giving. Boris did tell you it was a bad idea. You just didn’t listen?
Let's assume the provided statements are true, and this was his position at the time.
The fact is once the vote to leave was made by a majority of the voting population, it then becomes the elected officials role/job to deliver the will of the people, like it or not.
Given the point you're trying to make i think he did well after all the bollox that went on in parliament, trying to overturn the vote. I also think it is safe to say if someone in power had, had that attitude from day 1, UK's position today would be a far better position.
You do remember he voted twice against a very similar deal? So he was actually responsible for some of "the bollox in Parliament"? "
Nothing like the current deal was ever put before Parliament. |
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"Boris went from dead against the idea of a Brexit due to the economic damage it would cause the UK to Brexits the best thing since sliced bread because he saw the potential personal gain.
So he knew that Leave would win did he?
These are his words a couple of months before he began to lead the leave campaign so did he suddenly change his mind? Did he fuck he put his own agenda over the U.K.
He didn’t know leave would win but he did know he kept fucking up every job he was given in government including extending that poor woman’s time in Iranian jails.
He knew his days at the top table were numbered and this was a slim chance to leap up into the top job. Remember even Gove said he wasn’t a fit person to be PM.
With Farage and Cummins leading the way he manoeuvred well and avoiding Andre Neil type scrutiny so I will compliment him on avoiding any details .
The three line slogans of Cummins and co ranted out over and over . The bus which 70% of the population believed to be true.
Turkey sending a million people .
I can’t knock him for pulling of the best bullshit job of all time . He did it very well. Especially with the help from the media.
Oh and did you see with our Turkey deal Erdogan wants special status for Turks application for entry into and migration to the U.K. .
Looks like they will be coming after all.
If you allow the figure (maybe correct may not) the bus is definitely not a lie. It says we send money to the EU. Lets fund the NHS instead. It does not say lets give it all to the NHS
Exact words
We send the eu £350m a week
Lets fund the nhs instead
Definitely not a lie?
Ok and grass isnt green
When did he ever say give ALL of it to the NHS? ..... i know never!
Wow
Just.
Wow "
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"Boris went from dead against the idea of a Brexit due to the economic damage it would cause the UK to Brexits the best thing since sliced bread because he saw the potential personal gain.
So he knew that Leave would win did he?
These are his words a couple of months before he began to lead the leave campaign so did he suddenly change his mind? Did he fuck he put his own agenda over the U.K.
He didn’t know leave would win but he did know he kept fucking up every job he was given in government including extending that poor woman’s time in Iranian jails.
He knew his days at the top table were numbered and this was a slim chance to leap up into the top job. Remember even Gove said he wasn’t a fit person to be PM.
With Farage and Cummins leading the way he manoeuvred well and avoiding Andre Neil type scrutiny so I will compliment him on avoiding any details .
The three line slogans of Cummins and co ranted out over and over . The bus which 70% of the population believed to be true.
Turkey sending a million people .
I can’t knock him for pulling of the best bullshit job of all time . He did it very well. Especially with the help from the media.
Oh and did you see with our Turkey deal Erdogan wants special status for Turks application for entry into and migration to the U.K. .
Looks like they will be coming after all.
If you allow the figure (maybe correct may not) the bus is definitely not a lie. It says we send money to the EU. Lets fund the NHS instead. It does not say lets give it all to the NHS
Exact words
We send the eu £350m a week
Lets fund the nhs instead
Definitely not a lie?
Ok and grass isnt green
When did he ever say give ALL of it to the NHS? ..... i know never!
Wow
Just.
Wow
So you can spell WOW, can you answer the question, with a link of course "
It says if will be spent on The NHS
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"Quotes from Boris prior to the referendum before he decided to go for his moment in the spotlight. Both early 2016
“ This is a market on our doorstep, ready for further exploitation by British firms. The membership fee seems rather small for all that access. Why are we so determined to turn our back on it?”
“ It is also true the single market is of considerable value to many UK companies and consumers: leaving would cause at least some business uncertainty, while embroiling Govt for several years in a fiddly process of negotiating new arrangements, diverting energy from the real problems – low skills, low social mobility, low investment etc – that have nothing to do with Europe.”
2013
“ If we left the EU, we would end this sterile debate, and we would have to recognise that most of our problems are not caused by ‘Brussels’, but by chronic British short-termism, inadequate management, sloth, low skills, a culture of easy gratification and underinvestment in both human and physical capital and infrastructure.”
Ernst and Young figures - 7500 high paid banking jobs have now moved to Europe. Along with the increasing job movement over £1trillion in funds has been moved with this figure expected to dramatically increase if a no deal is added to the pot. The U.K. is losing major listings on the FTSE 100 to Paris. This is all big tax losses to the U.K. government.
The SMMT a non political organisation representing the car industry is calling for a deal as the U.K. car industry calculates a £55Billion loss over 3 years without one.
Brexit keeps giving. Boris did tell you it was a bad idea. You just didn’t listen?
Let's assume the provided statements are true, and this was his position at the time.
The fact is once the vote to leave was made by a majority of the voting population, it then becomes the elected officials role/job to deliver the will of the people, like it or not.
Given the point you're trying to make i think he did well after all the bollox that went on in parliament, trying to overturn the vote. I also think it is safe to say if someone in power had, had that attitude from day 1, UK's position today would be a far better position.
You do remember he voted twice against a very similar deal? So he was actually responsible for some of "the bollox in Parliament"?
Yes a true example of the man. Fuck a good deal mine will be no better but I’ll be in charge when I get rid of her!
Sadly it wasn’t .
"
Nonsense, the Theresa May “deal” (not actually a deal) had a temporary customs union preventing us doing our own trade deals, we would still be under the ECJ for disputes, and the divorce bill was at least 35 to 39 billion.
It all looks even more naive now than it seemed at the time. Thank goodness some MPs listened and voted against. |
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"Quotes from Boris prior to the referendum before he decided to go for his moment in the spotlight. Both early 2016
“ This is a market on our doorstep, ready for further exploitation by British firms. The membership fee seems rather small for all that access. Why are we so determined to turn our back on it?”
“ It is also true the single market is of considerable value to many UK companies and consumers: leaving would cause at least some business uncertainty, while embroiling Govt for several years in a fiddly process of negotiating new arrangements, diverting energy from the real problems – low skills, low social mobility, low investment etc – that have nothing to do with Europe.”
2013
“ If we left the EU, we would end this sterile debate, and we would have to recognise that most of our problems are not caused by ‘Brussels’, but by chronic British short-termism, inadequate management, sloth, low skills, a culture of easy gratification and underinvestment in both human and physical capital and infrastructure.”
Ernst and Young figures - 7500 high paid banking jobs have now moved to Europe. Along with the increasing job movement over £1trillion in funds has been moved with this figure expected to dramatically increase if a no deal is added to the pot. The U.K. is losing major listings on the FTSE 100 to Paris. This is all big tax losses to the U.K. government.
The SMMT a non political organisation representing the car industry is calling for a deal as the U.K. car industry calculates a £55Billion loss over 3 years without one.
Brexit keeps giving. Boris did tell you it was a bad idea. You just didn’t listen?
Let's assume the provided statements are true, and this was his position at the time.
The fact is once the vote to leave was made by a majority of the voting population, it then becomes the elected officials role/job to deliver the will of the people, like it or not.
Given the point you're trying to make i think he did well after all the bollox that went on in parliament, trying to overturn the vote. I also think it is safe to say if someone in power had, had that attitude from day 1, UK's position today would be a far better position.
You do remember he voted twice against a very similar deal? So he was actually responsible for some of "the bollox in Parliament"?
Yes a true example of the man. Fuck a good deal mine will be no better but I’ll be in charge when I get rid of her!
Sadly it wasn’t .
Nonsense, the Theresa May “deal” (not actually a deal) had a temporary customs union preventing us doing our own trade deals, we would still be under the ECJ for disputes, and the divorce bill was at least 35 to 39 billion.
It all looks even more naive now than it seemed at the time. Thank goodness some MPs listened and voted against."
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"Boris went from dead against the idea of a Brexit due to the economic damage it would cause the UK to Brexits the best thing since sliced bread because he saw the potential personal gain.
So he knew that Leave would win did he?
These are his words a couple of months before he began to lead the leave campaign so did he suddenly change his mind? Did he fuck he put his own agenda over the U.K.
He didn’t know leave would win but he did know he kept fucking up every job he was given in government including extending that poor woman’s time in Iranian jails.
He knew his days at the top table were numbered and this was a slim chance to leap up into the top job. Remember even Gove said he wasn’t a fit person to be PM.
With Farage and Cummins leading the way he manoeuvred well and avoiding Andre Neil type scrutiny so I will compliment him on avoiding any details .
The three line slogans of Cummins and co ranted out over and over . The bus which 70% of the population believed to be true.
Turkey sending a million people .
I can’t knock him for pulling of the best bullshit job of all time . He did it very well. Especially with the help from the media.
Oh and did you see with our Turkey deal Erdogan wants special status for Turks application for entry into and migration to the U.K. .
Looks like they will be coming after all.
If you allow the figure (maybe correct may not) the bus is definitely not a lie. It says we send money to the EU. Lets fund the NHS instead. It does not say lets give it all to the NHS
Exact words
We send the eu £350m a week
Lets fund the nhs instead
Definitely not a lie?
Ok and grass isnt green
When did he ever say give ALL of it to the NHS? ..... i know never!
Wow
Just.
Wow
So you can spell WOW, can you answer the question, with a link of course
It says if will be spent on The NHS
The lengths people will go to..to defend that clown is genuinly hilarious. "
It says "Let's fund the NHS instead" I knew scousers had funny accents didn't know they couldn't read.
No mention of all of it anywhere |
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"Boris went from dead against the idea of a Brexit due to the economic damage it would cause the UK to Brexits the best thing since sliced bread because he saw the potential personal gain.
So he knew that Leave would win did he?
These are his words a couple of months before he began to lead the leave campaign so did he suddenly change his mind? Did he fuck he put his own agenda over the U.K.
He didn’t know leave would win but he did know he kept fucking up every job he was given in government including extending that poor woman’s time in Iranian jails.
He knew his days at the top table were numbered and this was a slim chance to leap up into the top job. Remember even Gove said he wasn’t a fit person to be PM.
With Farage and Cummins leading the way he manoeuvred well and avoiding Andre Neil type scrutiny so I will compliment him on avoiding any details .
The three line slogans of Cummins and co ranted out over and over . The bus which 70% of the population believed to be true.
Turkey sending a million people .
I can’t knock him for pulling of the best bullshit job of all time . He did it very well. Especially with the help from the media.
Oh and did you see with our Turkey deal Erdogan wants special status for Turks application for entry into and migration to the U.K. .
Looks like they will be coming after all.
If you allow the figure (maybe correct may not) the bus is definitely not a lie. It says we send money to the EU. Lets fund the NHS instead. It does not say lets give it all to the NHS
Exact words
We send the eu £350m a week
Lets fund the nhs instead
Definitely not a lie?
Ok and grass isnt green
When did he ever say give ALL of it to the NHS? ..... i know never!
Wow
Just.
Wow
So you can spell WOW, can you answer the question, with a link of course
It says if will be spent on The NHS
The lengths people will go to..to defend that clown is genuinly hilarious.
It says "Let's fund the NHS instead" I knew scousers had funny accents didn't know they couldn't read.
No mention of all of it anywhere"
It's like an episode of the twighlight zone
Lets fund the NHS instead..bit it duesnt mention it anywhere. |
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"Boris went from dead against the idea of a Brexit due to the economic damage it would cause the UK to Brexits the best thing since sliced bread because he saw the potential personal gain.
So he knew that Leave would win did he?
These are his words a couple of months before he began to lead the leave campaign so did he suddenly change his mind? Did he fuck he put his own agenda over the U.K.
He didn’t know leave would win but he did know he kept fucking up every job he was given in government including extending that poor woman’s time in Iranian jails.
He knew his days at the top table were numbered and this was a slim chance to leap up into the top job. Remember even Gove said he wasn’t a fit person to be PM.
With Farage and Cummins leading the way he manoeuvred well and avoiding Andre Neil type scrutiny so I will compliment him on avoiding any details .
The three line slogans of Cummins and co ranted out over and over . The bus which 70% of the population believed to be true.
Turkey sending a million people .
I can’t knock him for pulling of the best bullshit job of all time . He did it very well. Especially with the help from the media.
Oh and did you see with our Turkey deal Erdogan wants special status for Turks application for entry into and migration to the U.K. .
Looks like they will be coming after all.
If you allow the figure (maybe correct may not) the bus is definitely not a lie. It says we send money to the EU. Lets fund the NHS instead. It does not say lets give it all to the NHS
Exact words
We send the eu £350m a week
Lets fund the nhs instead
Definitely not a lie?
Ok and grass isnt green
When did he ever say give ALL of it to the NHS? ..... i know never!
Wow
Just.
Wow
So you can spell WOW, can you answer the question, with a link of course
It says if will be spent on The NHS
The lengths people will go to..to defend that clown is genuinly hilarious.
It says "Let's fund the NHS instead" I knew scousers had funny accents didn't know they couldn't read.
No mention of all of it anywhere
It's like an episode of the twighlight zone
Lets fund the NHS instead..bit it duesnt mention it anywhere."
Does it say lets spend 350mil on the nhs? No it says it will be used to fund the NHS, if you can't understand the difference then we will just have to leave you all confused in the twilight zone.
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"Boris went from dead against the idea of a Brexit due to the economic damage it would cause the UK to Brexits the best thing since sliced bread because he saw the potential personal gain.
So he knew that Leave would win did he?
These are his words a couple of months before he began to lead the leave campaign so did he suddenly change his mind? Did he fuck he put his own agenda over the U.K.
He didn’t know leave would win but he did know he kept fucking up every job he was given in government including extending that poor woman’s time in Iranian jails.
He knew his days at the top table were numbered and this was a slim chance to leap up into the top job. Remember even Gove said he wasn’t a fit person to be PM.
With Farage and Cummins leading the way he manoeuvred well and avoiding Andre Neil type scrutiny so I will compliment him on avoiding any details .
The three line slogans of Cummins and co ranted out over and over . The bus which 70% of the population believed to be true.
Turkey sending a million people .
I can’t knock him for pulling of the best bullshit job of all time . He did it very well. Especially with the help from the media.
Oh and did you see with our Turkey deal Erdogan wants special status for Turks application for entry into and migration to the U.K. .
Looks like they will be coming after all.
If you allow the figure (maybe correct may not) the bus is definitely not a lie. It says we send money to the EU. Lets fund the NHS instead. It does not say lets give it all to the NHS
Exact words
We send the eu £350m a week
Lets fund the nhs instead
Definitely not a lie?
Ok and grass isnt green
When did he ever say give ALL of it to the NHS? ..... i know never!
Wow
Just.
Wow
So you can spell WOW, can you answer the question, with a link of course
It says if will be spent on The NHS
The lengths people will go to..to defend that clown is genuinly hilarious.
It says "Let's fund the NHS instead" I knew scousers had funny accents didn't know they couldn't read.
No mention of all of it anywhere
It's like an episode of the twighlight zone
Lets fund the NHS instead..bit it duesnt mention it anywhere.
Does it say lets spend 350mil on the nhs? No it says it will be used to fund the NHS, if you can't understand the difference then we will just have to leave you all confused in the twilight zone.
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"Boris went from dead against the idea of a Brexit due to the economic damage it would cause the UK to Brexits the best thing since sliced bread because he saw the potential personal gain.
So he knew that Leave would win did he?
These are his words a couple of months before he began to lead the leave campaign so did he suddenly change his mind? Did he fuck he put his own agenda over the U.K.
He didn’t know leave would win but he did know he kept fucking up every job he was given in government including extending that poor woman’s time in Iranian jails.
He knew his days at the top table were numbered and this was a slim chance to leap up into the top job. Remember even Gove said he wasn’t a fit person to be PM.
With Farage and Cummins leading the way he manoeuvred well and avoiding Andre Neil type scrutiny so I will compliment him on avoiding any details .
The three line slogans of Cummins and co ranted out over and over . The bus which 70% of the population believed to be true.
Turkey sending a million people .
I can’t knock him for pulling of the best bullshit job of all time . He did it very well. Especially with the help from the media.
Oh and did you see with our Turkey deal Erdogan wants special status for Turks application for entry into and migration to the U.K. .
Looks like they will be coming after all.
If you allow the figure (maybe correct may not) the bus is definitely not a lie. It says we send money to the EU. Lets fund the NHS instead. It does not say lets give it all to the NHS
Exact words
We send the eu £350m a week
Lets fund the nhs instead
Definitely not a lie?
Ok and grass isnt green
When did he ever say give ALL of it to the NHS? ..... i know never!
Wow
Just.
Wow
So you can spell WOW, can you answer the question, with a link of course
It says if will be spent on The NHS
The lengths people will go to..to defend that clown is genuinly hilarious.
It says "Let's fund the NHS instead" I knew scousers had funny accents didn't know they couldn't read.
No mention of all of it anywhere
It's like an episode of the twighlight zone
Lets fund the NHS instead..bit it duesnt mention it anywhere.
Does it say lets spend 350mil on the nhs? No it says it will be used to fund the NHS, if you can't understand the difference then we will just have to leave you all confused in the twilight zone.
So spend and fund are 2 different concepts?"
"Use" to fund;
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"Boris went from dead against the idea of a Brexit due to the economic damage it would cause the UK to Brexits the best thing since sliced bread because he saw the potential personal gain.
So he knew that Leave would win did he?
These are his words a couple of months before he began to lead the leave campaign so did he suddenly change his mind? Did he fuck he put his own agenda over the U.K.
He didn’t know leave would win but he did know he kept fucking up every job he was given in government including extending that poor woman’s time in Iranian jails.
He knew his days at the top table were numbered and this was a slim chance to leap up into the top job. Remember even Gove said he wasn’t a fit person to be PM.
With Farage and Cummins leading the way he manoeuvred well and avoiding Andre Neil type scrutiny so I will compliment him on avoiding any details .
The three line slogans of Cummins and co ranted out over and over . The bus which 70% of the population believed to be true.
Turkey sending a million people .
I can’t knock him for pulling of the best bullshit job of all time . He did it very well. Especially with the help from the media.
Oh and did you see with our Turkey deal Erdogan wants special status for Turks application for entry into and migration to the U.K. .
Looks like they will be coming after all. "
I refuse to believe any sentient human thought that they were voting for a government in the referendum, only a government can make spending decisions.
If anyone did think that they need reporting and locking up as a danger to themselves and others. |
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"Boris went from dead against the idea of a Brexit due to the economic damage it would cause the UK to Brexits the best thing since sliced bread because he saw the potential personal gain.
So he knew that Leave would win did he?
These are his words a couple of months before he began to lead the leave campaign so did he suddenly change his mind? Did he fuck he put his own agenda over the U.K.
He didn’t know leave would win but he did know he kept fucking up every job he was given in government including extending that poor woman’s time in Iranian jails.
He knew his days at the top table were numbered and this was a slim chance to leap up into the top job. Remember even Gove said he wasn’t a fit person to be PM.
With Farage and Cummins leading the way he manoeuvred well and avoiding Andre Neil type scrutiny so I will compliment him on avoiding any details .
The three line slogans of Cummins and co ranted out over and over . The bus which 70% of the population believed to be true.
Turkey sending a million people .
I can’t knock him for pulling of the best bullshit job of all time . He did it very well. Especially with the help from the media.
Oh and did you see with our Turkey deal Erdogan wants special status for Turks application for entry into and migration to the U.K. .
Looks like they will be coming after all.
If you allow the figure (maybe correct may not) the bus is definitely not a lie. It says we send money to the EU. Lets fund the NHS instead. It does not say lets give it all to the NHS
Exact words
We send the eu £350m a week
Lets fund the nhs instead
Definitely not a lie?
Ok and grass isnt green
When did he ever say give ALL of it to the NHS? ..... i know never!
Wow
Just.
Wow
So you can spell WOW, can you answer the question, with a link of course
It says if will be spent on The NHS
The lengths people will go to..to defend that clown is genuinly hilarious.
It says "Let's fund the NHS instead" I knew scousers had funny accents didn't know they couldn't read.
No mention of all of it anywhere
It's like an episode of the twighlight zone
Lets fund the NHS instead..bit it duesnt mention it anywhere.
Does it say lets spend 350mil on the nhs? No it says it will be used to fund the NHS, if you can't understand the difference then we will just have to leave you all confused in the twilight zone.
So spend and fund are 2 different concepts?
"Use" to fund;
If you ride a donkey you get to "use" the donkey, you don't get the whole donkey "
That analogy simply doesn't work
You dont borrow the NHS
If what you are saying is true.. why didnt they stipulate how much would be spent on the nhs? |
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"Boris went from dead against the idea of a Brexit due to the economic damage it would cause the UK to Brexits the best thing since sliced bread because he saw the potential personal gain.
So he knew that Leave would win did he?
These are his words a couple of months before he began to lead the leave campaign so did he suddenly change his mind? Did he fuck he put his own agenda over the U.K.
He didn’t know leave would win but he did know he kept fucking up every job he was given in government including extending that poor woman’s time in Iranian jails.
He knew his days at the top table were numbered and this was a slim chance to leap up into the top job. Remember even Gove said he wasn’t a fit person to be PM.
With Farage and Cummins leading the way he manoeuvred well and avoiding Andre Neil type scrutiny so I will compliment him on avoiding any details .
The three line slogans of Cummins and co ranted out over and over . The bus which 70% of the population believed to be true.
Turkey sending a million people .
I can’t knock him for pulling of the best bullshit job of all time . He did it very well. Especially with the help from the media.
Oh and did you see with our Turkey deal Erdogan wants special status for Turks application for entry into and migration to the U.K. .
Looks like they will be coming after all.
If you allow the figure (maybe correct may not) the bus is definitely not a lie. It says we send money to the EU. Lets fund the NHS instead. It does not say lets give it all to the NHS
Exact words
We send the eu £350m a week
Lets fund the nhs instead
Definitely not a lie?
Ok and grass isnt green
When did he ever say give ALL of it to the NHS? ..... i know never!
Wow
Just.
Wow
So you can spell WOW, can you answer the question, with a link of course
It says if will be spent on The NHS
The lengths people will go to..to defend that clown is genuinly hilarious.
It says "Let's fund the NHS instead" I knew scousers had funny accents didn't know they couldn't read.
No mention of all of it anywhere
It's like an episode of the twighlight zone
Lets fund the NHS instead..bit it duesnt mention it anywhere.
Does it say lets spend 350mil on the nhs? No it says it will be used to fund the NHS, if you can't understand the difference then we will just have to leave you all confused in the twilight zone.
So spend and fund are 2 different concepts?
"Use" to fund;
If you ride a donkey you get to "use" the donkey, you don't get the whole donkey
That analogy simply doesn't work
You dont borrow the NHS
If what you are saying is true.. why didnt they stipulate how much would be spent on the nhs?"
Its the funds that get "used" You don't get the whole fund (cash cow) |
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"Boris went from dead against the idea of a Brexit due to the economic damage it would cause the UK to Brexits the best thing since sliced bread because he saw the potential personal gain.
So he knew that Leave would win did he?
These are his words a couple of months before he began to lead the leave campaign so did he suddenly change his mind? Did he fuck he put his own agenda over the U.K.
He didn’t know leave would win but he did know he kept fucking up every job he was given in government including extending that poor woman’s time in Iranian jails.
He knew his days at the top table were numbered and this was a slim chance to leap up into the top job. Remember even Gove said he wasn’t a fit person to be PM.
With Farage and Cummins leading the way he manoeuvred well and avoiding Andre Neil type scrutiny so I will compliment him on avoiding any details .
The three line slogans of Cummins and co ranted out over and over . The bus which 70% of the population believed to be true.
Turkey sending a million people .
I can’t knock him for pulling of the best bullshit job of all time . He did it very well. Especially with the help from the media.
Oh and did you see with our Turkey deal Erdogan wants special status for Turks application for entry into and migration to the U.K. .
Looks like they will be coming after all.
If you allow the figure (maybe correct may not) the bus is definitely not a lie. It says we send money to the EU. Lets fund the NHS instead. It does not say lets give it all to the NHS
Exact words
We send the eu £350m a week
Lets fund the nhs instead
Definitely not a lie?
Ok and grass isnt green
When did he ever say give ALL of it to the NHS? ..... i know never!
Wow
Just.
Wow
So you can spell WOW, can you answer the question, with a link of course
It says if will be spent on The NHS
The lengths people will go to..to defend that clown is genuinly hilarious.
It says "Let's fund the NHS instead" I knew scousers had funny accents didn't know they couldn't read.
No mention of all of it anywhere
It's like an episode of the twighlight zone
Lets fund the NHS instead..bit it duesnt mention it anywhere.
Does it say lets spend 350mil on the nhs? No it says it will be used to fund the NHS, if you can't understand the difference then we will just have to leave you all confused in the twilight zone.
So spend and fund are 2 different concepts?
"Use" to fund;
If you ride a donkey you get to "use" the donkey, you don't get the whole donkey
That analogy simply doesn't work
You dont borrow the NHS
If what you are saying is true.. why didnt they stipulate how much would be spent on the nhs?
Its the funds that get "used" You don't get the whole fund (cash cow)"
I'll ask again
Why didnt they say it wont all be used on the NHS?
Did they run out if space. |
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"Boris went from dead against the idea of a Brexit due to the economic damage it would cause the UK to Brexits the best thing since sliced bread because he saw the potential personal gain.
So he knew that Leave would win did he?
These are his words a couple of months before he began to lead the leave campaign so did he suddenly change his mind? Did he fuck he put his own agenda over the U.K.
He didn’t know leave would win but he did know he kept fucking up every job he was given in government including extending that poor woman’s time in Iranian jails.
He knew his days at the top table were numbered and this was a slim chance to leap up into the top job. Remember even Gove said he wasn’t a fit person to be PM.
With Farage and Cummins leading the way he manoeuvred well and avoiding Andre Neil type scrutiny so I will compliment him on avoiding any details .
The three line slogans of Cummins and co ranted out over and over . The bus which 70% of the population believed to be true.
Turkey sending a million people .
I can’t knock him for pulling of the best bullshit job of all time . He did it very well. Especially with the help from the media.
Oh and did you see with our Turkey deal Erdogan wants special status for Turks application for entry into and migration to the U.K. .
Looks like they will be coming after all.
If you allow the figure (maybe correct may not) the bus is definitely not a lie. It says we send money to the EU. Lets fund the NHS instead. It does not say lets give it all to the NHS
Exact words
We send the eu £350m a week
Lets fund the nhs instead
Definitely not a lie?
Ok and grass isnt green
When did he ever say give ALL of it to the NHS? ..... i know never!
Wow
Just.
Wow
So you can spell WOW, can you answer the question, with a link of course
It says if will be spent on The NHS
The lengths people will go to..to defend that clown is genuinly hilarious.
It says "Let's fund the NHS instead" I knew scousers had funny accents didn't know they couldn't read.
No mention of all of it anywhere
It's like an episode of the twighlight zone
Lets fund the NHS instead..bit it duesnt mention it anywhere.
Does it say lets spend 350mil on the nhs? No it says it will be used to fund the NHS, if you can't understand the difference then we will just have to leave you all confused in the twilight zone.
So spend and fund are 2 different concepts?
"Use" to fund;
If you ride a donkey you get to "use" the donkey, you don't get the whole donkey
That analogy simply doesn't work
You dont borrow the NHS
If what you are saying is true.. why didnt they stipulate how much would be spent on the nhs?
Its the funds that get "used" You don't get the whole fund (cash cow)
I'll ask again
Why didnt they say it wont all be used on the NHS?
Did they run out if space."
I'm still waiting for you to show me a link to where he said ALL of it would be used |
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"Boris went from dead against the idea of a Brexit due to the economic damage it would cause the UK to Brexits the best thing since sliced bread because he saw the potential personal gain.
So he knew that Leave would win did he?
These are his words a couple of months before he began to lead the leave campaign so did he suddenly change his mind? Did he fuck he put his own agenda over the U.K.
He didn’t know leave would win but he did know he kept fucking up every job he was given in government including extending that poor woman’s time in Iranian jails.
He knew his days at the top table were numbered and this was a slim chance to leap up into the top job. Remember even Gove said he wasn’t a fit person to be PM.
With Farage and Cummins leading the way he manoeuvred well and avoiding Andre Neil type scrutiny so I will compliment him on avoiding any details .
The three line slogans of Cummins and co ranted out over and over . The bus which 70% of the population believed to be true.
Turkey sending a million people .
I can’t knock him for pulling of the best bullshit job of all time . He did it very well. Especially with the help from the media.
Oh and did you see with our Turkey deal Erdogan wants special status for Turks application for entry into and migration to the U.K. .
Looks like they will be coming after all.
If you allow the figure (maybe correct may not) the bus is definitely not a lie. It says we send money to the EU. Lets fund the NHS instead. It does not say lets give it all to the NHS
Exact words
We send the eu £350m a week
Lets fund the nhs instead
Definitely not a lie?
Ok and grass isnt green
When did he ever say give ALL of it to the NHS? ..... i know never!
Wow
Just.
Wow
So you can spell WOW, can you answer the question, with a link of course
It says if will be spent on The NHS
The lengths people will go to..to defend that clown is genuinly hilarious.
It says "Let's fund the NHS instead" I knew scousers had funny accents didn't know they couldn't read.
No mention of all of it anywhere
It's like an episode of the twighlight zone
Lets fund the NHS instead..bit it duesnt mention it anywhere.
Does it say lets spend 350mil on the nhs? No it says it will be used to fund the NHS, if you can't understand the difference then we will just have to leave you all confused in the twilight zone.
So spend and fund are 2 different concepts?
"Use" to fund;
If you ride a donkey you get to "use" the donkey, you don't get the whole donkey
That analogy simply doesn't work
You dont borrow the NHS
If what you are saying is true.. why didnt they stipulate how much would be spent on the nhs?
Its the funds that get "used" You don't get the whole fund (cash cow)
I'll ask again
Why didnt they say it wont all be used on the NHS?
Did they run out if space.
I'm still waiting for you to show me a link to where he said ALL of it would be used"
When you ask a question twice and it doesnt get answered,you know it's a waste of time. |
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"Boris went from dead against the idea of a Brexit due to the economic damage it would cause the UK to Brexits the best thing since sliced bread because he saw the potential personal gain.
So he knew that Leave would win did he?
These are his words a couple of months before he began to lead the leave campaign so did he suddenly change his mind? Did he fuck he put his own agenda over the U.K.
He didn’t know leave would win but he did know he kept fucking up every job he was given in government including extending that poor woman’s time in Iranian jails.
He knew his days at the top table were numbered and this was a slim chance to leap up into the top job. Remember even Gove said he wasn’t a fit person to be PM.
With Farage and Cummins leading the way he manoeuvred well and avoiding Andre Neil type scrutiny so I will compliment him on avoiding any details .
The three line slogans of Cummins and co ranted out over and over . The bus which 70% of the population believed to be true.
Turkey sending a million people .
I can’t knock him for pulling of the best bullshit job of all time . He did it very well. Especially with the help from the media.
Oh and did you see with our Turkey deal Erdogan wants special status for Turks application for entry into and migration to the U.K. .
Looks like they will be coming after all.
If you allow the figure (maybe correct may not) the bus is definitely not a lie. It says we send money to the EU. Lets fund the NHS instead. It does not say lets give it all to the NHS
Exact words
We send the eu £350m a week
Lets fund the nhs instead
Definitely not a lie?
Ok and grass isnt green
When did he ever say give ALL of it to the NHS? ..... i know never!
Wow
Just.
Wow
So you can spell WOW, can you answer the question, with a link of course
It says if will be spent on The NHS
The lengths people will go to..to defend that clown is genuinly hilarious.
It says "Let's fund the NHS instead" I knew scousers had funny accents didn't know they couldn't read.
No mention of all of it anywhere
It's like an episode of the twighlight zone
Lets fund the NHS instead..bit it duesnt mention it anywhere.
Does it say lets spend 350mil on the nhs? No it says it will be used to fund the NHS, if you can't understand the difference then we will just have to leave you all confused in the twilight zone.
So spend and fund are 2 different concepts?
"Use" to fund;
If you ride a donkey you get to "use" the donkey, you don't get the whole donkey
That analogy simply doesn't work
You dont borrow the NHS
If what you are saying is true.. why didnt they stipulate how much would be spent on the nhs?
Its the funds that get "used" You don't get the whole fund (cash cow)
I'll ask again
Why didnt they say it wont all be used on the NHS?
Did they run out if space.
I'm still waiting for you to show me a link to where he said ALL of it would be used
When you ask a question twice and it doesnt get answered,you know it's a waste of time."
Well i do now. As they say you learn something new everyday |
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"Boris went from dead against the idea of a Brexit due to the economic damage it would cause the UK to Brexits the best thing since sliced bread because he saw the potential personal gain.
So he knew that Leave would win did he?
These are his words a couple of months before he began to lead the leave campaign so did he suddenly change his mind? Did he fuck he put his own agenda over the U.K.
He didn’t know leave would win but he did know he kept fucking up every job he was given in government including extending that poor woman’s time in Iranian jails.
He knew his days at the top table were numbered and this was a slim chance to leap up into the top job. Remember even Gove said he wasn’t a fit person to be PM.
With Farage and Cummins leading the way he manoeuvred well and avoiding Andre Neil type scrutiny so I will compliment him on avoiding any details .
The three line slogans of Cummins and co ranted out over and over . The bus which 70% of the population believed to be true.
Turkey sending a million people .
I can’t knock him for pulling of the best bullshit job of all time . He did it very well. Especially with the help from the media.
Oh and did you see with our Turkey deal Erdogan wants special status for Turks application for entry into and migration to the U.K. .
Looks like they will be coming after all.
If you allow the figure (maybe correct may not) the bus is definitely not a lie. It says we send money to the EU. Lets fund the NHS instead. It does not say lets give it all to the NHS
Exact words
We send the eu £350m a week
Lets fund the nhs instead
Definitely not a lie?
Ok and grass isnt green
When did he ever say give ALL of it to the NHS? ..... i know never!
Wow
Just.
Wow
So you can spell WOW, can you answer the question, with a link of course
It says if will be spent on The NHS
The lengths people will go to..to defend that clown is genuinly hilarious.
It says "Let's fund the NHS instead" I knew scousers had funny accents didn't know they couldn't read.
No mention of all of it anywhere
It's like an episode of the twighlight zone
Lets fund the NHS instead..bit it duesnt mention it anywhere.
Does it say lets spend 350mil on the nhs? No it says it will be used to fund the NHS, if you can't understand the difference then we will just have to leave you all confused in the twilight zone.
So spend and fund are 2 different concepts?
"Use" to fund;
If you ride a donkey you get to "use" the donkey, you don't get the whole donkey
That analogy simply doesn't work
You dont borrow the NHS
If what you are saying is true.. why didnt they stipulate how much would be spent on the nhs?
Its the funds that get "used" You don't get the whole fund (cash cow)
I'll ask again
Why didnt they say it wont all be used on the NHS?
Did they run out if space.
I'm still waiting for you to show me a link to where he said ALL of it would be used
When you ask a question twice and it doesnt get answered,you know it's a waste of time.
Well i do now. As they say you learn something new everyday"
https://fullfact.org/europe/350-million-week-boris-johnson-statistics-authority-misuse/
Presumably just because it said £350m ,he didn't really mean £350m? |
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"Boris went from dead against the idea of a Brexit due to the economic damage it would cause the UK to Brexits the best thing since sliced bread because he saw the potential personal gain.
So he knew that Leave would win did he?
These are his words a couple of months before he began to lead the leave campaign so did he suddenly change his mind? Did he fuck he put his own agenda over the U.K.
He didn’t know leave would win but he did know he kept fucking up every job he was given in government including extending that poor woman’s time in Iranian jails.
He knew his days at the top table were numbered and this was a slim chance to leap up into the top job. Remember even Gove said he wasn’t a fit person to be PM.
With Farage and Cummins leading the way he manoeuvred well and avoiding Andre Neil type scrutiny so I will compliment him on avoiding any details .
The three line slogans of Cummins and co ranted out over and over . The bus which 70% of the population believed to be true.
Turkey sending a million people .
I can’t knock him for pulling of the best bullshit job of all time . He did it very well. Especially with the help from the media.
Oh and did you see with our Turkey deal Erdogan wants special status for Turks application for entry into and migration to the U.K. .
Looks like they will be coming after all.
If you allow the figure (maybe correct may not) the bus is definitely not a lie. It says we send money to the EU. Lets fund the NHS instead. It does not say lets give it all to the NHS
Exact words
We send the eu £350m a week
Lets fund the nhs instead
Definitely not a lie?
Ok and grass isnt green
When did he ever say give ALL of it to the NHS? ..... i know never!
Wow
Just.
Wow
So you can spell WOW, can you answer the question, with a link of course
It says if will be spent on The NHS
The lengths people will go to..to defend that clown is genuinly hilarious.
It says "Let's fund the NHS instead" I knew scousers had funny accents didn't know they couldn't read.
No mention of all of it anywhere
It's like an episode of the twighlight zone
Lets fund the NHS instead..bit it duesnt mention it anywhere.
Does it say lets spend 350mil on the nhs? No it says it will be used to fund the NHS, if you can't understand the difference then we will just have to leave you all confused in the twilight zone.
So spend and fund are 2 different concepts?
"Use" to fund;
If you ride a donkey you get to "use" the donkey, you don't get the whole donkey
That analogy simply doesn't work
You dont borrow the NHS
If what you are saying is true.. why didnt they stipulate how much would be spent on the nhs?
Its the funds that get "used" You don't get the whole fund (cash cow)
I'll ask again
Why didnt they say it wont all be used on the NHS?
Did they run out if space.
I'm still waiting for you to show me a link to where he said ALL of it would be used
When you ask a question twice and it doesnt get answered,you know it's a waste of time.
Well i do now. As they say you learn something new everyday
https://fullfact.org/europe/350-million-week-boris-johnson-statistics-authority-misuse/
Presumably just because it said £350m ,he didn't really mean £350m?"
How much top line, so before any rebate does the uk have to commit to the EU (did have to)? |
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"Boris went from dead against the idea of a Brexit due to the economic damage it would cause the UK to Brexits the best thing since sliced bread because he saw the potential personal gain.
So he knew that Leave would win did he?
These are his words a couple of months before he began to lead the leave campaign so did he suddenly change his mind? Did he fuck he put his own agenda over the U.K.
He didn’t know leave would win but he did know he kept fucking up every job he was given in government including extending that poor woman’s time in Iranian jails.
He knew his days at the top table were numbered and this was a slim chance to leap up into the top job. Remember even Gove said he wasn’t a fit person to be PM.
With Farage and Cummins leading the way he manoeuvred well and avoiding Andre Neil type scrutiny so I will compliment him on avoiding any details .
The three line slogans of Cummins and co ranted out over and over . The bus which 70% of the population believed to be true.
Turkey sending a million people .
I can’t knock him for pulling of the best bullshit job of all time . He did it very well. Especially with the help from the media.
Oh and did you see with our Turkey deal Erdogan wants special status for Turks application for entry into and migration to the U.K. .
Looks like they will be coming after all.
If you allow the figure (maybe correct may not) the bus is definitely not a lie. It says we send money to the EU. Lets fund the NHS instead. It does not say lets give it all to the NHS
Exact words
We send the eu £350m a week
Lets fund the nhs instead
Definitely not a lie?
Ok and grass isnt green
When did he ever say give ALL of it to the NHS? ..... i know never!
Wow
Just.
Wow
So you can spell WOW, can you answer the question, with a link of course
It says if will be spent on The NHS
The lengths people will go to..to defend that clown is genuinly hilarious.
It says "Let's fund the NHS instead" I knew scousers had funny accents didn't know they couldn't read.
No mention of all of it anywhere
It's like an episode of the twighlight zone
Lets fund the NHS instead..bit it duesnt mention it anywhere.
Does it say lets spend 350mil on the nhs? No it says it will be used to fund the NHS, if you can't understand the difference then we will just have to leave you all confused in the twilight zone.
So spend and fund are 2 different concepts?
"Use" to fund;
If you ride a donkey you get to "use" the donkey, you don't get the whole donkey
That analogy simply doesn't work
You dont borrow the NHS
If what you are saying is true.. why didnt they stipulate how much would be spent on the nhs?
Its the funds that get "used" You don't get the whole fund (cash cow)
I'll ask again
Why didnt they say it wont all be used on the NHS?
Did they run out if space.
I'm still waiting for you to show me a link to where he said ALL of it would be used
When you ask a question twice and it doesnt get answered,you know it's a waste of time.
Well i do now. As they say you learn something new everyday
https://fullfact.org/europe/350-million-week-boris-johnson-statistics-authority-misuse/
Presumably just because it said £350m ,he didn't really mean £350m?
How much top line, so before any rebate does the uk have to commit to the EU (did have to)?"
I didnt think you could do it.
Well done.
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"Boris went from dead against the idea of a Brexit due to the economic damage it would cause the UK to Brexits the best thing since sliced bread because he saw the potential personal gain.
So he knew that Leave would win did he?
These are his words a couple of months before he began to lead the leave campaign so did he suddenly change his mind? Did he fuck he put his own agenda over the U.K.
Well i do now. As they say you learn something new everyday
https://fullfact.org/europe/350-million-week-boris-johnson-statistics-authority-misuse/
Presumably just because it said £350m ,he didn't really mean £350m?
How much top line, so before any rebate does the uk have to commit to the EU (did have to)?
I didnt think you could do it.
Well done.
We do truly live in the post truth era."
could do what? |
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"Boris went from dead against the idea of a Brexit due to the economic damage it would cause the UK to Brexits the best thing since sliced bread because he saw the potential personal gain.
So he knew that Leave would win did he?
These are his words a couple of months before he began to lead the leave campaign so did he suddenly change his mind? Did he fuck he put his own agenda over the U.K.
Well i do now. As they say you learn something new everyday
https://fullfact.org/europe/350-million-week-boris-johnson-statistics-authority-misuse/
Presumably just because it said £350m ,he didn't really mean £350m?
How much top line, so before any rebate does the uk have to commit to the EU (did have to)?
I didnt think you could do it.
Well done.
We do truly live in the post truth era.
could do what?"
It's quite amazing.
A brazen slogan on the side of a bus and you just dismiss it altogether.
Why argue using facts when you just make shit up? |
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"Boris went from dead against the idea of a Brexit due to the economic damage it would cause the UK to Brexits the best thing since sliced bread because he saw the potential personal gain.
So he knew that Leave would win did he?
These are his words a couple of months before he began to lead the leave campaign so did he suddenly change his mind? Did he fuck he put his own agenda over the U.K.
Well i do now. As they say you learn something new everyday
https://fullfact.org/europe/350-million-week-boris-johnson-statistics-authority-misuse/
Presumably just because it said £350m ,he didn't really mean £350m?
How much top line, so before any rebate does the uk have to commit to the EU (did have to)?
I didnt think you could do it.
Well done.
We do truly live in the post truth era.
could do what?
It's quite amazing.
A brazen slogan on the side of a bus and you just dismiss it altogether.
Why argue using facts when you just make shit up?"
What are you talking about? i have never denied the figure of 350mil i am saying he never committed all of it to the NHS |
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"Boris went from dead against the idea of a Brexit due to the economic damage it would cause the UK to Brexits the best thing since sliced bread because he saw the potential personal gain.
So he knew that Leave would win did he?
These are his words a couple of months before he began to lead the leave campaign so did he suddenly change his mind? Did he fuck he put his own agenda over the U.K.
Well i do now. As they say you learn something new everyday
https://fullfact.org/europe/350-million-week-boris-johnson-statistics-authority-misuse/
Presumably just because it said £350m ,he didn't really mean £350m?
How much top line, so before any rebate does the uk have to commit to the EU (did have to)?
I didnt think you could do it.
Well done.
We do truly live in the post truth era.
could do what?
It's quite amazing.
A brazen slogan on the side of a bus and you just dismiss it altogether.
Why argue using facts when you just make shit up?
What are you talking about? i have never denied the figure of 350mil i am saying he never committed all of it to the NHS"
You literally started talking about top lines and rebates.
The bus thing was a lie.
The world and his wife knows it was a fuck of lie.
I'll ask for the 3rd and final time..if it wasnt all going to be spent on the nhs..why didn't they say?
We all know the answer..bit lets see if you can answer. |
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"Boris went from dead against the idea of a Brexit due to the economic damage it would cause the UK to Brexits the best thing since sliced bread because he saw the potential personal gain.
So he knew that Leave would win did he?
These are his words a couple of months before he began to lead the leave campaign so did he suddenly change his mind? Did he fuck he put his own agenda over the U.K.
Well i do now. As they say you learn something new everyday
https://fullfact.org/europe/350-million-week-boris-johnson-statistics-authority-misuse/
Presumably just because it said £350m ,he didn't really mean £350m?
How much top line, so before any rebate does the uk have to commit to the EU (did have to)?
I didnt think you could do it.
Well done.
We do truly live in the post truth era.
could do what?
It's quite amazing.
A brazen slogan on the side of a bus and you just dismiss it altogether.
Why argue using facts when you just make shit up?
What are you talking about? i have never denied the figure of 350mil i am saying he never committed all of it to the NHS
You literally started talking about top lines and rebates.
The bus thing was a lie.
The world and his wife knows it was a fuck of lie.
I'll ask for the 3rd and final time..if it wasnt all going to be spent on the nhs..why didn't they say?
We all know the answer..bit lets see if you can answer."
I assumed the question, why he did not say, was hypothetical, how would i know why?
The article you linked me to syas he misused not lied the UK back in 2015-16 had to commit 17.6bil to the EU, which works out at around 322mil per week, add in increases for the next budget 350mil per week would not be far wrong.
look at page 3
http://urbis.europarl.europa.eu/urbis/sites/default/files/generated/document/en/CBP-7886.pdf
then google the meaning of the word "rebate" |
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"Boris went from dead against the idea of a Brexit due to the economic damage it would cause the UK to Brexits the best thing since sliced bread because he saw the potential personal gain.
So he knew that Leave would win did he?
These are his words a couple of months before he began to lead the leave campaign so did he suddenly change his mind? Did he fuck he put his own agenda over the U.K.
Well i do now. As they say you learn something new everyday
https://fullfact.org/europe/350-million-week-boris-johnson-statistics-authority-misuse/
Presumably just because it said £350m ,he didn't really mean £350m?
How much top line, so before any rebate does the uk have to commit to the EU (did have to)?
I didnt think you could do it.
Well done.
We do truly live in the post truth era.
could do what?
It's quite amazing.
A brazen slogan on the side of a bus and you just dismiss it altogether.
Why argue using facts when you just make shit up?
What are you talking about? i have never denied the figure of 350mil i am saying he never committed all of it to the NHS
You literally started talking about top lines and rebates.
The bus thing was a lie.
The world and his wife knows it was a fuck of lie.
I'll ask for the 3rd and final time..if it wasnt all going to be spent on the nhs..why didn't they say?
We all know the answer..bit lets see if you can answer.
I assumed the question, why he did not say, was hypothetical, how would i know why?
The article you linked me to syas he misused not lied the UK back in 2015-16 had to commit 17.6bil to the EU, which works out at around 322mil per week, add in increases for the next budget 350mil per week would not be far wrong.
look at page 3
http://urbis.europarl.europa.eu/urbis/sites/default/files/generated/document/en/CBP-7886.pdf
then google the meaning of the word "rebate""
You know the reason why you just wont answer it.
The inference was clear..the money would be spent on the nhs.
The fact that the majority if people,even know,still think this is the case.is proof of this.
The €350 m was comprehensively debunked in the fact check.
It was a total lie.. even tories are now admitting it.
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"Boris went from dead against the idea of a Brexit due to the economic damage it would cause the UK to Brexits the best thing since sliced bread because he saw the potential personal gain.
So he knew that Leave would win did he?
These are his words a couple of months before he began to lead the leave campaign so did he suddenly change his mind? Did he fuck he put his own agenda over the U.K.
Well i do now. As they say you learn something new everyday
https://fullfact.org/europe/350-million-week-boris-johnson-statistics-authority-misuse/
Presumably just because it said £350m ,he didn't really mean £350m?
How much top line, so before any rebate does the uk have to commit to the EU (did have to)?
I didnt think you could do it.
Well done.
We do truly live in the post truth era.
could do what?
It's quite amazing.
A brazen slogan on the side of a bus and you just dismiss it altogether.
Why argue using facts when you just make shit up?
What are you talking about? i have never denied the figure of 350mil i am saying he never committed all of it to the NHS
You literally started talking about top lines and rebates.
The bus thing was a lie.
The world and his wife knows it was a fuck of lie.
I'll ask for the 3rd and final time..if it wasnt all going to be spent on the nhs..why didn't they say?
We all know the answer..bit lets see if you can answer.
I assumed the question, why he did not say, was hypothetical, how would i know why?
The article you linked me to syas he misused not lied the UK back in 2015-16 had to commit 17.6bil to the EU, which works out at around 322mil per week, add in increases for the next budget 350mil per week would not be far wrong.
look at page 3
http://urbis.europarl.europa.eu/urbis/sites/default/files/generated/document/en/CBP-7886.pdf
then google the meaning of the word "rebate"
You know the reason why you just wont answer it.
The inference was clear..the money would be spent on the nhs.
The fact that the majority if people,even know,still think this is the case.is proof of this.
The €350 m was comprehensively debunked in the fact check.
It was a total lie.. even tories are now admitting it.
"
All the remainers would say that.
But as you say stats and facts as i have presented prove otherwise.
Rebate; a partial refund to someone who has paid too much e.g. for tax, rent, or a utility.
You have to give it, in order to get it.
Therefore to take control of c350mil is the correct statement of fact
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By *ackal1 OP Couple
over a year ago
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Interestingly HMRC estimate new customs costs for U.K. business to run at £20 Billion a year . Of which it’s reasonable to expect two thirds of those charges will be paid into the EU. T1s and clearance / discharge costs.
That two thirds equates to £256Million per week.
More than the net payment we used to make to the EU.
This doesn’t include the actual admin costs to U.K. business. Which will also run into billions.
We definitely won’t be giving that to the NHS.
But I bet we won’t see a bus telling us all this either,
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"Boris went from dead against the idea of a Brexit due to the economic damage it would cause the UK to Brexits the best thing since sliced bread because he saw the potential personal gain.
So he knew that Leave would win did he?
These are his words a couple of months before he began to lead the leave campaign so did he suddenly change his mind? Did he fuck he put his own agenda over the U.K.
Well i do now. As they say you learn something new everyday
https://fullfact.org/europe/350-million-week-boris-johnson-statistics-authority-misuse/
Presumably just because it said £350m ,he didn't really mean £350m?
How much top line, so before any rebate does the uk have to commit to the EU (did have to)?
I didnt think you could do it.
Well done.
We do truly live in the post truth era.
could do what?
It's quite amazing.
A brazen slogan on the side of a bus and you just dismiss it altogether.
Why argue using facts when you just make shit up?
What are you talking about? i have never denied the figure of 350mil i am saying he never committed all of it to the NHS
You literally started talking about top lines and rebates.
The bus thing was a lie.
The world and his wife knows it was a fuck of lie.
I'll ask for the 3rd and final time..if it wasnt all going to be spent on the nhs..why didn't they say?
We all know the answer..bit lets see if you can answer.
I assumed the question, why he did not say, was hypothetical, how would i know why?
The article you linked me to syas he misused not lied the UK back in 2015-16 had to commit 17.6bil to the EU, which works out at around 322mil per week, add in increases for the next budget 350mil per week would not be far wrong.
look at page 3
http://urbis.europarl.europa.eu/urbis/sites/default/files/generated/document/en/CBP-7886.pdf
then google the meaning of the word "rebate"
You know the reason why you just wont answer it.
The inference was clear..the money would be spent on the nhs.
The fact that the majority if people,even know,still think this is the case.is proof of this.
The €350 m was comprehensively debunked in the fact check.
It was a total lie.. even tories are now admitting it.
All the remainers would say that.
But as you say stats and facts as i have presented prove otherwise.
Rebate; a partial refund to someone who has paid too much e.g. for tax, rent, or a utility.
You have to give it, in order to get it.
Therefore to take control of c350mil is the correct statement of fact
"
https://www.google.com/amp/s/metro.co.uk/2017/04/27/heres-how-spectacularly-wrong-the-brexit-bus-350million-lie-was-6600987/amp/ |
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By *ackal1 OP Couple
over a year ago
Manchester |
"Boris went from dead against the idea of a Brexit due to the economic damage it would cause the UK to Brexits the best thing since sliced bread because he saw the potential personal gain.
So he knew that Leave would win did he?
These are his words a couple of months before he began to lead the leave campaign so did he suddenly change his mind? Did he fuck he put his own agenda over the U.K.
Well i do now. As they say you learn something new everyday
https://fullfact.org/europe/350-million-week-boris-johnson-statistics-authority-misuse/
Presumably just because it said £350m ,he didn't really mean £350m?
How much top line, so before any rebate does the uk have to commit to the EU (did have to)?
I didnt think you could do it.
Well done.
We do truly live in the post truth era.
could do what?
It's quite amazing.
A brazen slogan on the side of a bus and you just dismiss it altogether.
Why argue using facts when you just make shit up?
What are you talking about? i have never denied the figure of 350mil i am saying he never committed all of it to the NHS
You literally started talking about top lines and rebates.
The bus thing was a lie.
The world and his wife knows it was a fuck of lie.
I'll ask for the 3rd and final time..if it wasnt all going to be spent on the nhs..why didn't they say?
We all know the answer..bit lets see if you can answer.
I assumed the question, why he did not say, was hypothetical, how would i know why?
The article you linked me to syas he misused not lied the UK back in 2015-16 had to commit 17.6bil to the EU, which works out at around 322mil per week, add in increases for the next budget 350mil per week would not be far wrong.
look at page 3
http://urbis.europarl.europa.eu/urbis/sites/default/files/generated/document/en/CBP-7886.pdf
then google the meaning of the word "rebate"
You know the reason why you just wont answer it.
The inference was clear..the money would be spent on the nhs.
The fact that the majority if people,even know,still think this is the case.is proof of this.
The €350 m was comprehensively debunked in the fact check.
It was a total lie.. even tories are now admitting it.
All the remainers would say that.
But as you say stats and facts as i have presented prove otherwise.
Rebate; a partial refund to someone who has paid too much e.g. for tax, rent, or a utility.
You have to give it, in order to get it.
Therefore to take control of c350mil is the correct statement of fact
"
But give a lot more back to the EU in custom costs and loss of tax revenue due to banking funds of an estimated £1.6Trillion being moved to the EU .
The tax take on that is greater than our EU contribution .
So losing control of more then, by this measurement. |
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"Interestingly HMRC estimate new customs costs for U.K. business to run at £20 Billion a year . Of which it’s reasonable to expect two thirds of those charges will be paid into the EU. T1s and clearance / discharge costs.
That two thirds equates to £256Million per week.
More than the net payment we used to make to the EU.
This doesn’t include the actual admin costs to U.K. business. Which will also run into billions.
We definitely won’t be giving that to the NHS.
But I bet we won’t see a bus telling us all this either,
"
No. That was from a very broad estimate done two and a half years ago, with no idea what the deal would be, from the BBC article at the time:
“It is based on what officials know of the costs businesses actually face today, but HMRC has not revealed its precise methodology.“
Do we really have to fact check every single one of your statements, it doesn’t half waste time. Why not post credible recent sources that are worth discussing. |
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"Boris went from dead against the idea of a Brexit due to the economic damage it would cause the UK to Brexits the best thing since sliced bread because he saw the potential personal gain.
So he knew that Leave would win did he?
These are his words a couple of months before he began to lead the leave campaign so did he suddenly change his mind? Did he fuck he put his own agenda over the U.K.
Well i do now. As they say you learn something new everyday
https://fullfact.org/europe/350-million-week-boris-johnson-statistics-authority-misuse/
Presumably just because it said £350m ,he didn't really mean £350m?
How much top line, so before any rebate does the uk have to commit to the EU (did have to)?
I didnt think you could do it.
Well done.
We do truly live in the post truth era.
could do what?
It's quite amazing.
A brazen slogan on the side of a bus and you just dismiss it altogether.
Why argue using facts when you just make shit up?
What are you talking about? i have never denied the figure of 350mil i am saying he never committed all of it to the NHS
You literally started talking about top lines and rebates.
The bus thing was a lie.
The world and his wife knows it was a fuck of lie.
I'll ask for the 3rd and final time..if it wasnt all going to be spent on the nhs..why didn't they say?
We all know the answer..bit lets see if you can answer.
I assumed the question, why he did not say, was hypothetical, how would i know why?
The article you linked me to syas he misused not lied the UK back in 2015-16 had to commit 17.6bil to the EU, which works out at around 322mil per week, add in increases for the next budget 350mil per week would not be far wrong.
look at page 3
http://urbis.europarl.europa.eu/urbis/sites/default/files/generated/document/en/CBP-7886.pdf
then google the meaning of the word "rebate"
You know the reason why you just wont answer it.
The inference was clear..the money would be spent on the nhs.
The fact that the majority if people,even know,still think this is the case.is proof of this.
The €350 m was comprehensively debunked in the fact check.
It was a total lie.. even tories are now admitting it.
All the remainers would say that.
But as you say stats and facts as i have presented prove otherwise.
Rebate; a partial refund to someone who has paid too much e.g. for tax, rent, or a utility.
You have to give it, in order to get it.
Therefore to take control of c350mil is the correct statement of fact
But give a lot more back to the EU in custom costs and loss of tax revenue due to banking funds of an estimated £1.6Trillion being moved to the EU .
The tax take on that is greater than our EU contribution .
So losing control of more then, by this measurement. "
Based on your recent track record, I’m not even going to bother looking that claim up. Probably came from Karen on Facebook four years ago. |
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"Boris went from dead against the idea of a Brexit due to the economic damage it would cause the UK to Brexits the best thing since sliced bread because he saw the potential personal gain.
So he knew that Leave would win did he?
These are his words a couple of months before he began to lead the leave campaign so did he suddenly change his mind? Did he fuck he put his own agenda over the U.K.
Well i do now. As they say you learn something new everyday
https://fullfact.org/europe/350-million-week-boris-johnson-statistics-authority-misuse/
Presumably just because it said £350m ,he didn't really mean £350m?
How much top line, so before any rebate does the uk have to commit to the EU (did have to)?
I didnt think you could do it.
Well done.
We do truly live in the post truth era.
could do what?
It's quite amazing.
A brazen slogan on the side of a bus and you just dismiss it altogether.
Why argue using facts when you just make shit up?
What are you talking about? i have never denied the figure of 350mil i am saying he never committed all of it to the NHS
You literally started talking about top lines and rebates.
The bus thing was a lie.
The world and his wife knows it was a fuck of lie.
I'll ask for the 3rd and final time..if it wasnt all going to be spent on the nhs..why didn't they say?
We all know the answer..bit lets see if you can answer.
I assumed the question, why he did not say, was hypothetical, how would i know why?
The article you linked me to syas he misused not lied the UK back in 2015-16 had to commit 17.6bil to the EU, which works out at around 322mil per week, add in increases for the next budget 350mil per week would not be far wrong.
look at page 3
http://urbis.europarl.europa.eu/urbis/sites/default/files/generated/document/en/CBP-7886.pdf
then google the meaning of the word "rebate"
You know the reason why you just wont answer it.
The inference was clear..the money would be spent on the nhs.
The fact that the majority if people,even know,still think this is the case.is proof of this.
The €350 m was comprehensively debunked in the fact check.
It was a total lie.. even tories are now admitting it.
All the remainers would say that.
But as you say stats and facts as i have presented prove otherwise.
Rebate; a partial refund to someone who has paid too much e.g. for tax, rent, or a utility.
You have to give it, in order to get it.
Therefore to take control of c350mil is the correct statement of fact
https://www.google.com/amp/s/metro.co.uk/2017/04/27/heres-how-spectacularly-wrong-the-brexit-bus-350million-lie-was-6600987/amp/"
Once again the link proves my point in order to try and make the 350mil look incorrect they have moved the goal post to talk about Net figures when the 350mil is the gross figure.
The EU in their controlling of UK funds deigned to REBATE to the UK 78.8mil per week, means they still controlled UK monies.
Not a single remain supporter article will discuss gross figure. |
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"Interestingly HMRC estimate new customs costs for U.K. business to run at £20 Billion a year . Of which it’s reasonable to expect two thirds of those charges will be paid into the EU. T1s and clearance / discharge costs.
That two thirds equates to £256Million per week. "
If "it’s reasonable to expect two thirds of those charges will be paid into the EU" then surely the same will work for from the EU side into UK, as the controls do go both ways, do they not? I'm sure i've read somewhere, the EU send more to us than we do to them, so we should actual be better off, no? |
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By *ackal1 OP Couple
over a year ago
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"Interestingly HMRC estimate new customs costs for U.K. business to run at £20 Billion a year . Of which it’s reasonable to expect two thirds of those charges will be paid into the EU. T1s and clearance / discharge costs.
That two thirds equates to £256Million per week.
If "it’s reasonable to expect two thirds of those charges will be paid into the EU" then surely the same will work for from the EU side into UK, as the controls do go both ways, do they not? I'm sure i've read somewhere, the EU send more to us than we do to them, so we should actual be better off, no?"
In theory you are correct, however commercial needs will override that.
So for example The Co-op have told their suppliers they will not be paying any costs for customs and suppliers have to pay. So eroding the U.K. suppliers margin if he can’t pass it on.
Equally the majority of clients on the continent will say actually this is a cost brought on by the U.K. so your paying it or we will look elsewhere. The EU is a big customer and supply area.
I can vouch for this actually happening.
The Europeans do sell more to us but ultimately they won’t be taking the cost of Brexit. We will.
It will show over time. Tesco have said there will be a marginal impact after the deal was agreed rather than a large impact. That marginal is the Customs and VAT funding issues with maybe some increase in logistics thrown in. It will be small 2-3% increases is my guess.
The deal has reduced the massive impact on goods from a no deal we were all worried about but the costs to trade have gone up. |
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"Interestingly HMRC estimate new customs costs for U.K. business to run at £20 Billion a year . Of which it’s reasonable to expect two thirds of those charges will be paid into the EU. T1s and clearance / discharge costs.
That two thirds equates to £256Million per week.
If "it’s reasonable to expect two thirds of those charges will be paid into the EU" then surely the same will work for from the EU side into UK, as the controls do go both ways, do they not? I'm sure i've read somewhere, the EU send more to us than we do to them, so we should actual be better off, no?
In theory you are correct, however commercial needs will override that.
So for example The Co-op have told their suppliers they will not be paying any costs for customs and suppliers have to pay. So eroding the U.K. suppliers margin if he can’t pass it on.
Equally the majority of clients on the continent will say actually this is a cost brought on by the U.K. so your paying it or we will look elsewhere. The EU is a big customer and supply area.
I can vouch for this actually happening.
The Europeans do sell more to us but ultimately they won’t be taking the cost of Brexit. We will.
It will show over time. Tesco have said there will be a marginal impact after the deal was agreed rather than a large impact. That marginal is the Customs and VAT funding issues with maybe some increase in logistics thrown in. It will be small 2-3% increases is my guess.
The deal has reduced the massive impact on goods from a no deal we were all worried about but the costs to trade have gone up. "
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2018 bj addressing the dup party conference
No British conservative gmnt could or would ever agree to an Irish sea border as it would leave ni behind..damaging the whole fabric of the union.
The gift that keeps on giving. |
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"2018 bj addressing the dup party conference
No British conservative gmnt could or would ever agree to an Irish sea border as it would leave ni behind..damaging the whole fabric of the union.
The gift that keeps on giving."
Root cause of the new “border” is not Brexit but the good Friday agreement that turned a deliberate blind eye to smuggling from South to North in order to give former terrorists an occupation and keep them quiet. |
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"2018 bj addressing the dup party conference
No British conservative gmnt could or would ever agree to an Irish sea border as it would leave ni behind..damaging the whole fabric of the union.
The gift that keeps on giving.
Root cause of the new “border” is not Brexit but the good Friday agreement that turned a deliberate blind eye to smuggling from South to North in order to give former terrorists an occupation and keep them quiet. "
It's still another lie he has told..still he has made a career out of it. |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"2018 bj addressing the dup party conference
No British conservative gmnt could or would ever agree to an Irish sea border as it would leave ni behind..damaging the whole fabric of the union.
The gift that keeps on giving.
Root cause of the new “border” is not Brexit but the good Friday agreement that turned a deliberate blind eye to smuggling from South to North in order to give former terrorists an occupation and keep them quiet.
It's still another lie he has told..still he has made a career out of it."
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It's a new dawn "
I’ve not seen that link specifically but I did actually read a fair bit of the deal and noticed that a lot of the language (like fit and proper licence holders etc) is carried over from existing UK and European primary and trade approval legislation.
Also that the page numbers didn’t match the index lol.
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"Boris went from dead against the idea of a Brexit due to the economic damage it would cause the UK to Brexits the best thing since sliced bread because he saw the potential personal gain.
Wow such negativity and major, even outrageous supposition on your part"
OK, let's take the negativity aspect with Boris going from dead against a Brexit to avid champion of it...
Please explain how it's negative to speak the truth?
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"Boris went from dead against the idea of a Brexit due to the economic damage it would cause the UK to Brexits the best thing since sliced bread because he saw the potential personal gain.
So he knew that Leave would win did he? "
I think he saw that the issue would fracture the Conservative party yes and knew the country would be closely divided so he exploited the situation that ended up with him getting his life's ambition of being PM. |
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By *hagTonightMan
over a year ago
From the land of haribos. |
"You cant really just blame boris for brexit, he did what the people wanted, for better or worse and it seems it wasnt a good idea.
He is going to carry the can..he pushed for it."
Yes, he will do that as well. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"You cant really just blame boris for brexit, he did what the people wanted, for better or worse and it seems it wasnt a good idea.
He is going to carry the can..he pushed for it."
Correction -
Take the credit |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"You cant really just blame boris for brexit, he did what the people wanted, for better or worse and it seems it wasnt a good idea."
He lied to the people to get what he wanted.
Then did what he wanted.
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By *hagTonightMan
over a year ago
From the land of haribos. |
"You cant really just blame boris for brexit, he did what the people wanted, for better or worse and it seems it wasnt a good idea.
He lied to the people to get what he wanted.
Then did what he wanted.
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That is right, he did that too, brexit is the product of false promises. |
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"Boris went from dead against the idea of a Brexit due to the economic damage it would cause the UK to Brexits the best thing since sliced bread because he saw the potential personal gain.
So he knew that Leave would win did he?
I think he saw that the issue would fracture the Conservative party yes and knew the country would be closely divided so he exploited the situation that ended up with him getting his life's ambition of being PM. "
Why not just wait for Cameron to step down? |
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