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Nothing will happen to her. That's how low this government has sunk. If Boris sacked her, he'd have to appoint someone competent to replace her - and he can't do that because there are hardly any competent Tories; and the few there are voted Remain.
If there's anything good to come out of the report - if it ever actually sees the light of day - it will be that she will now have to behave herself when talking to her staff.
Although, I wouldn't want to bet on her doing that. It's in her nature to be a nasty little shite. |
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"Staying or going?
I reckon she’ll stay. I wonder what ministers need to do in this shameful government to be shown the door. "
All she did was stand up to civil servants and refuse to be bullied by then herself. We elect a government to run the country, not civil servants. |
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"Staying or going?
I reckon she’ll stay. I wonder what ministers need to do in this shameful government to be shown the door. "
Staying, you know why? Because she is an enforcer, and old men in Whitehall don’t like being told by a woman what to do. |
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"Staying or going?
I reckon she’ll stay. I wonder what ministers need to do in this shameful government to be shown the door. All she did was stand up to civil servants and refuse to be bullied by then herself. We elect a government to run the country, not civil servants. "
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"Staying or going?
I reckon she’ll stay. I wonder what ministers need to do in this shameful government to be shown the door.
Staying, you know why? Because she is an enforcer, and old men in Whitehall don’t like being told by a woman what to do."
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By * Plus ECouple
over a year ago
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"Nothing will happen to her. That's how low this government has sunk. If Boris sacked her, he'd have to appoint someone competent to replace her - and he can't do that because there are hardly any competent Tories; and the few there are voted Remain.
If there's anything good to come out of the report - if it ever actually sees the light of day - it will be that she will now have to behave herself when talking to her staff.
Although, I wouldn't want to bet on her doing that. It's in her nature to be a nasty little shite."
You've known her personally for a long time I'm guessing, in and out of work obviously.
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"Would be good to actually read the report
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Unless they release it, everyone is going to assume it's worse than it possibly is.
But the fact civil servants resigned over her behaviour does not look favourable. |
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"Staying or going?
I reckon she’ll stay. I wonder what ministers need to do in this shameful government to be shown the door. All she did was stand up to civil servants and refuse to be bullied by then herself. We elect a government to run the country, not civil servants. "
Elect competent politicians then.
The reality is every government relies on the Civil Service. Ideally the government proposes legislation and the civil service liaises with the correct bodies to actually draft and enable the legislation.
Politicians just vote and debate it.
What we have is a government who is asking for things to be done by a certain time in a certain way, and it's not doable, then they throw a hissy fit when a Civil Servant actually is honest.
If they continue this way eventually they'll be told to do it themselves, then you'll really see how useless there people are. |
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"Staying or going?
I reckon she’ll stay. I wonder what ministers need to do in this shameful government to be shown the door. All she did was stand up to civil servants and refuse to be bullied by then herself. We elect a government to run the country, not civil servants.
Elect competent politicians then.
The reality is every government relies on the Civil Service. Ideally the government proposes legislation and the civil service liaises with the correct bodies to actually draft and enable the legislation.
Politicians just vote and debate it.
What we have is a government who is asking for things to be done by a certain time in a certain way, and it's not doable, then they throw a hissy fit when a Civil Servant actually is honest.
If they continue this way eventually they'll be told to do it themselves, then you'll really see how useless there people are."
How do you know this? |
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"Staying or going?
I reckon she’ll stay. I wonder what ministers need to do in this shameful government to be shown the door. All she did was stand up to civil servants and refuse to be bullied by then herself. We elect a government to run the country, not civil servants.
Elect competent politicians then.
The reality is every government relies on the Civil Service. Ideally the government proposes legislation and the civil service liaises with the correct bodies to actually draft and enable the legislation.
Politicians just vote and debate it.
What we have is a government who is asking for things to be done by a certain time in a certain way, and it's not doable, then they throw a hissy fit when a Civil Servant actually is honest.
If they continue this way eventually they'll be told to do it themselves, then you'll really see how useless there people are.
How do you know this? "
The Civil Service drafts and enacts legislation - I know this as it's in the History of how our government has acted since the late 1800's. Particularly after 1920, the Civil Service became far more professional and robust, rather than a politicians hobby.
That's just factual and you can find out more info by ready about our nation's history.
Regarding details of what the government is asking for, delivery times, expectations and brief public correspondence. This can be found in parliamentary committee reports and meetings, it's also open source on gov websites, you can also see what the civil service is recruiting for.
It's all public knowledge. You just have to read it. The only things kept private are reports regarding personal names, incidents and correspondence. Hence the suppression of Patel's Bullying accusations. |
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"Staying or going?
I reckon she’ll stay. I wonder what ministers need to do in this shameful government to be shown the door. All she did was stand up to civil servants and refuse to be bullied by then herself. We elect a government to run the country, not civil servants.
Elect competent politicians then.
The reality is every government relies on the Civil Service. Ideally the government proposes legislation and the civil service liaises with the correct bodies to actually draft and enable the legislation.
Politicians just vote and debate it.
What we have is a government who is asking for things to be done by a certain time in a certain way, and it's not doable, then they throw a hissy fit when a Civil Servant actually is honest.
If they continue this way eventually they'll be told to do it themselves, then you'll really see how useless there people are.
How do you know this?
The Civil Service drafts and enacts legislation - I know this as it's in the History of how our government has acted since the late 1800's. Particularly after 1920, the Civil Service became far more professional and robust, rather than a politicians hobby.
That's just factual and you can find out more info by ready about our nation's history.
Regarding details of what the government is asking for, delivery times, expectations and brief public correspondence. This can be found in parliamentary committee reports and meetings, it's also open source on gov websites, you can also see what the civil service is recruiting for.
It's all public knowledge. You just have to read it. The only things kept private are reports regarding personal names, incidents and correspondence. Hence the suppression of Patel's Bullying accusations."
How do you know that what they are asking for is not doable and how do you know they are throwing hissy fits? |
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
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"Staying or going?
I reckon she’ll stay. I wonder what ministers need to do in this shameful government to be shown the door. All she did was stand up to civil servants and refuse to be bullied by then herself. We elect a government to run the country, not civil servants. "
Funny how you seem to have seen the report, and even Matt Hancock this morning said he hadn't.
-Matt |
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"Staying or going?
I reckon she’ll stay. I wonder what ministers need to do in this shameful government to be shown the door. All she did was stand up to civil servants and refuse to be bullied by then herself. We elect a government to run the country, not civil servants.
Elect competent politicians then.
The reality is every government relies on the Civil Service. Ideally the government proposes legislation and the civil service liaises with the correct bodies to actually draft and enable the legislation.
Politicians just vote and debate it.
What we have is a government who is asking for things to be done by a certain time in a certain way, and it's not doable, then they throw a hissy fit when a Civil Servant actually is honest.
If they continue this way eventually they'll be told to do it themselves, then you'll really see how useless there people are.
How do you know this?
The Civil Service drafts and enacts legislation - I know this as it's in the History of how our government has acted since the late 1800's. Particularly after 1920, the Civil Service became far more professional and robust, rather than a politicians hobby.
That's just factual and you can find out more info by ready about our nation's history.
Regarding details of what the government is asking for, delivery times, expectations and brief public correspondence. This can be found in parliamentary committee reports and meetings, it's also open source on gov websites, you can also see what the civil service is recruiting for.
It's all public knowledge. You just have to read it. The only things kept private are reports regarding personal names, incidents and correspondence. Hence the suppression of Patel's Bullying accusations.
How do you know that what they are asking for is not doable and how do you know they are throwing hissy fits? "
Parliamentary committee reports show impossible deadlines/requests and inappropriate responses from ministers to civil servants, when said civil servants point out failure was down to time scale. Or when Civil Servants provide a solution, however this is not politically palatable.
Eg, the lorry parks now being constructed in Tory Seats in Kent, and the port-a-loo stations and drop offs being built to service the projected haulier queues in Kent.
This follows Tory MPs dissatisfaction at the fact that the haulier i.t system has not been put together yet, despite the government only finalising the basic details in July.
Again, see a committee report on parliament's website for this. |
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"The chap that produced the report has now resigned. One assumes because he believes the action of the PM is insufficient. "
The way I read it is, the independent chap has resigned because Boris disagrees with the findings ... so it’s not so much the action is insufficient its the fact the boss is going to ignore the whole thing
 that’s some brass neck ...
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"The chap that produced the report has now resigned. One assumes because he believes the action of the PM is insufficient.
The way I read it is, the independent chap has resigned because Boris disagrees with the findings ... so it’s not so much the action is insufficient its the fact the boss is going to ignore the whole thing
that’s some brass neck ...
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He's got previous with Cummings..
Whilst some will say that's good as he's loyal others will say it's poor judgement.. |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"The chap that produced the report has now resigned. One assumes because he believes the action of the PM is insufficient.
The way I read it is, the independent chap has resigned because Boris disagrees with the findings ... so it’s not so much the action is insufficient its the fact the boss is going to ignore the whole thing
that’s some brass neck ...
He's got previous with Cummings..
Whilst some will say that's good as he's loyal others will say it's poor judgement.."
yep deffo depending on what side of the fence you sit |
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"Staying or going?
I reckon she’ll stay. I wonder what ministers need to do in this shameful government to be shown the door. All she did was stand up to civil servants and refuse to be bullied by then herself. We elect a government to run the country, not civil servants.
Elect competent politicians then.
The reality is every government relies on the Civil Service. Ideally the government proposes legislation and the civil service liaises with the correct bodies to actually draft and enable the legislation.
Politicians just vote and debate it.
What we have is a government who is asking for things to be done by a certain time in a certain way, and it's not doable, then they throw a hissy fit when a Civil Servant actually is honest.
If they continue this way eventually they'll be told to do it themselves, then you'll really see how useless there people are.
How do you know this?
The Civil Service drafts and enacts legislation - I know this as it's in the History of how our government has acted since the late 1800's. Particularly after 1920, the Civil Service became far more professional and robust, rather than a politicians hobby.
That's just factual and you can find out more info by ready about our nation's history.
Regarding details of what the government is asking for, delivery times, expectations and brief public correspondence. This can be found in parliamentary committee reports and meetings, it's also open source on gov websites, you can also see what the civil service is recruiting for.
It's all public knowledge. You just have to read it. The only things kept private are reports regarding personal names, incidents and correspondence. Hence the suppression of Patel's Bullying accusations.
How do you know that what they are asking for is not doable and how do you know they are throwing hissy fits?
Parliamentary committee reports show impossible deadlines/requests and inappropriate responses from ministers to civil servants, when said civil servants point out failure was down to time scale. Or when Civil Servants provide a solution, however this is not politically palatable.
Eg, the lorry parks now being constructed in Tory Seats in Kent, and the port-a-loo stations and drop offs being built to service the projected haulier queues in Kent.
This follows Tory MPs dissatisfaction at the fact that the haulier i.t system has not been put together yet, despite the government only finalising the basic details in July.
Again, see a committee report on parliament's website for this."
And yet the head of the civil service says that improvements can be made. So what does he mean? Must try harder? |
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Patel's a bully, the inquiry said so, and she should go, but of course she's staying because Boris lacks the fortitude to enforce a good moral standard. What a poor example to set and how heartbreaking for the bullied to see it brushed-off as nothing more than a triviality. |
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By *emptd2Man
over a year ago
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"Patel's a bully, the inquiry said so, and she should go, but of course she's staying because Boris lacks the fortitude to enforce a good moral standard. What a poor example to set and how heartbreaking for the bullied to see it brushed-off as nothing more than a triviality."
He stuck by Cummings. Why would you expect anything less?
Even May fired her. |
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"Patel's a bully, the inquiry said so, and she should go, but of course she's staying because Boris lacks the fortitude to enforce a good moral standard. What a poor example to set and how heartbreaking for the bullied to see it brushed-off as nothing more than a triviality."
To be fair Boris has applied his own standards, which thus far are well below what one might expect..
No doubt he will be defended but I don't think there's been a time when we have or seem to have such a complete lack of integrity, competence and honesty in the political classes.. |
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Does make you question why he even bothered in the first place.
He commissioned the report, then seems to ignore its findings.
Unfortunately, the combination of 10 years in government, and an unassailable commons majority make this lot feel they can do as they wish. With no accountability to the public. |
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This just shows how weak Boris is.
People have lost their job and potentially their career as a result of this woman's bullying. The enquiry found that she was in breach of ministerial conduct. These aren't accusations, they found clear evidence of this.
But he stands by her, on ANTI BULLYING WEEK! |
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"This just shows how weak Boris is.
People have lost their job and potentially their career as a result of this woman's bullying. The enquiry found that she was in breach of ministerial conduct. These aren't accusations, they found clear evidence of this.
But he stands by her, on ANTI BULLYING WEEK!"
He doesn’t care, he knows that he is only going to be a short term PM and the decisions he is making now reflect that. Looking on the bright side, when Boris leaves, so will the majority of his cabinet |
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I'm sure she will stay. I'm also sure that she should go. Her atrocious behaviour isn't acceptable for someone well below her status and she has also got serious form for working inappropriately in office.
Johnson just wants superficial loyalty, so that is all that counts. |
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"https://www.gov.uk/government/news/ministerial-code-investigationNice one, you can see why Boris has not sacked her reading that.  "
Even if you ignore the bullying allegations she has been a terrible Home Secretary, what has she actually achieved ? All talk and no action, she will be the first to go when Boris leaves next year  |
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over a year ago
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"https://www.gov.uk/government/news/ministerial-code-investigationNice one, you can see why Boris has not sacked her reading that.
Even if you ignore the bullying allegations she has been a terrible Home Secretary, what has she actually achieved ? All talk and no action, she will be the first to go when Boris leaves next year "
Hasn't she been busy on the new immigration bill? |
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"https://www.gov.uk/government/news/ministerial-code-investigationNice one, you can see why Boris has not sacked her reading that.
Even if you ignore the bullying allegations she has been a terrible Home Secretary, what has she actually achieved ? All talk and no action, she will be the first to go when Boris leaves next year Hasn't she been busy on the new immigration bill? "
I have no idea, she keeps ‘talking tough’ on the issue of asylum seekers and coming up with strange ideas, it hasn’t stopped them getting here ? |
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By * Plus ECouple
over a year ago
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"https://www.gov.uk/government/news/ministerial-code-investigationNice one, you can see why Boris has not sacked her reading that.
Even if you ignore the bullying allegations she has been a terrible Home Secretary, what has she actually achieved ? All talk and no action, she will be the first to go when Boris leaves next year Hasn't she been busy on the new immigration bill?
I have no idea, she keeps ‘talking tough’ on the issue of asylum seekers and coming up with strange ideas, it hasn’t stopped them getting here ? "
I can't recall a Home Secretary that's been able to solve that particular (and very difficult) problem.
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"https://www.gov.uk/government/news/ministerial-code-investigationNice one, you can see why Boris has not sacked her reading that.
Even if you ignore the bullying allegations she has been a terrible Home Secretary, what has she actually achieved ? All talk and no action, she will be the first to go when Boris leaves next year Hasn't she been busy on the new immigration bill?
I have no idea, she keeps ‘talking tough’ on the issue of asylum seekers and coming up with strange ideas, it hasn’t stopped them getting here ? "
Now i do agree with you there but do home secretary's usually get credit for anything? .Police numbers are rising thats a plus. |
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"https://www.gov.uk/government/news/ministerial-code-investigationNice one, you can see why Boris has not sacked her reading that.
Even if you ignore the bullying allegations she has been a terrible Home Secretary, what has she actually achieved ? All talk and no action, she will be the first to go when Boris leaves next year Hasn't she been busy on the new immigration bill?
I have no idea, she keeps ‘talking tough’ on the issue of asylum seekers and coming up with strange ideas, it hasn’t stopped them getting here ? Now i do agree with you there but do home secretary's usually get credit for anything? .Police numbers are rising thats a plus."
It is a difficult job but she is out of her depth, she and many of her cabinet colleagues are only in their current roles because they are part of Boris’s Brexit Cabal, when Brexit is ‘done’ and Boris leaves, so will the rest of them . |
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"https://www.gov.uk/government/news/ministerial-code-investigationNice one, you can see why Boris has not sacked her reading that.
Even if you ignore the bullying allegations she has been a terrible Home Secretary, what has she actually achieved ? All talk and no action, she will be the first to go when Boris leaves next year Hasn't she been busy on the new immigration bill?
I have no idea, she keeps ‘talking tough’ on the issue of asylum seekers and coming up with strange ideas, it hasn’t stopped them getting here ? Now i do agree with you there but do home secretary's usually get credit for anything? .Police numbers are rising thats a plus.
It is a difficult job but she is out of her depth, she and many of her cabinet colleagues are only in their current roles because they are part of Boris’s Brexit Cabal, when Brexit is ‘done’ and Boris leaves, so will the rest of them . "
I dont know her well enough or the job she does to make generalizations like being out of her depth and guess you dont either so you are probably just making that statement on political bias. |
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"https://www.gov.uk/government/news/ministerial-code-investigationNice one, you can see why Boris has not sacked her reading that.
Even if you ignore the bullying allegations she has been a terrible Home Secretary, what has she actually achieved ? All talk and no action, she will be the first to go when Boris leaves next year Hasn't she been busy on the new immigration bill?
I have no idea, she keeps ‘talking tough’ on the issue of asylum seekers and coming up with strange ideas, it hasn’t stopped them getting here ? Now i do agree with you there but do home secretary's usually get credit for anything? .Police numbers are rising thats a plus.
It is a difficult job but she is out of her depth, she and many of her cabinet colleagues are only in their current roles because they are part of Boris’s Brexit Cabal, when Brexit is ‘done’ and Boris leaves, so will the rest of them . I dont know her well enough or the job she does to make generalizations like being out of her depth and guess you dont either so you are probably just making that statement on political bias."
She had plans to send migrants and asylum seekers to a ship in the South Atlantic. She had similar plans to send them to an island.
She believes the government has no blame for poverty when benefit delays can lead to hunger and homelessness.
She conspired with a foreign nation behind the government's back, endangering national security.
And there's more!
She should not be serving our country. She is well out of her depth. |
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"https://www.gov.uk/government/news/ministerial-code-investigationNice one, you can see why Boris has not sacked her reading that.
Even if you ignore the bullying allegations she has been a terrible Home Secretary, what has she actually achieved ? All talk and no action, she will be the first to go when Boris leaves next year Hasn't she been busy on the new immigration bill?
I have no idea, she keeps ‘talking tough’ on the issue of asylum seekers and coming up with strange ideas, it hasn’t stopped them getting here ? Now i do agree with you there but do home secretary's usually get credit for anything? .Police numbers are rising thats a plus.
It is a difficult job but she is out of her depth, she and many of her cabinet colleagues are only in their current roles because they are part of Boris’s Brexit Cabal, when Brexit is ‘done’ and Boris leaves, so will the rest of them . I dont know her well enough or the job she does to make generalizations like being out of her depth and guess you dont either so you are probably just making that statement on political bias.
She had plans to send migrants and asylum seekers to a ship in the South Atlantic. She had similar plans to send them to an island.
She believes the government has no blame for poverty when benefit delays can lead to hunger and homelessness.
She conspired with a foreign nation behind the government's back, endangering national security.
And there's more!
She should not be serving our country. She is well out of her depth."
i think it was an island in the south Atlantic (ascension) and ships offshore wait a minute dont Australia already do that. |
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"https://www.gov.uk/government/news/ministerial-code-investigationNice one, you can see why Boris has not sacked her reading that.
Even if you ignore the bullying allegations she has been a terrible Home Secretary, what has she actually achieved ? All talk and no action, she will be the first to go when Boris leaves next year Hasn't she been busy on the new immigration bill?
I have no idea, she keeps ‘talking tough’ on the issue of asylum seekers and coming up with strange ideas, it hasn’t stopped them getting here ? Now i do agree with you there but do home secretary's usually get credit for anything? .Police numbers are rising thats a plus.
It is a difficult job but she is out of her depth, she and many of her cabinet colleagues are only in their current roles because they are part of Boris’s Brexit Cabal, when Brexit is ‘done’ and Boris leaves, so will the rest of them . I dont know her well enough or the job she does to make generalizations like being out of her depth and guess you dont either so you are probably just making that statement on political bias."
I am basing it on here last ministerial role and how she is performing in her current job . Do you think she is doing a good job as Home Secretary? |
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By *ostafunMan
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"https://www.gov.uk/government/news/ministerial-code-investigationNice one, you can see why Boris has not sacked her reading that.
Even if you ignore the bullying allegations she has been a terrible Home Secretary, what has she actually achieved ? All talk and no action, she will be the first to go when Boris leaves next year Hasn't she been busy on the new immigration bill?
I have no idea, she keeps ‘talking tough’ on the issue of asylum seekers and coming up with strange ideas, it hasn’t stopped them getting here ? Now i do agree with you there but do home secretary's usually get credit for anything? .Police numbers are rising thats a plus.
It is a difficult job but she is out of her depth, she and many of her cabinet colleagues are only in their current roles because they are part of Boris’s Brexit Cabal, when Brexit is ‘done’ and Boris leaves, so will the rest of them . I dont know her well enough or the job she does to make generalizations like being out of her depth and guess you dont either so you are probably just making that statement on political bias.
I am basing it on here last ministerial role and how she is performing in her current job . Do you think she is doing a good job as Home Secretary? "
Thats hard to say, crime is down but is that due to covid the same as stabbing but could be for the same reason,how many terrorist threats have been stopped who knows not us how do you judge how well a home secretary is doing? |
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"https://www.gov.uk/government/news/ministerial-code-investigationNice one, you can see why Boris has not sacked her reading that.
Even if you ignore the bullying allegations she has been a terrible Home Secretary, what has she actually achieved ? All talk and no action, she will be the first to go when Boris leaves next year Hasn't she been busy on the new immigration bill?
I have no idea, she keeps ‘talking tough’ on the issue of asylum seekers and coming up with strange ideas, it hasn’t stopped them getting here ? Now i do agree with you there but do home secretary's usually get credit for anything? .Police numbers are rising thats a plus.
It is a difficult job but she is out of her depth, she and many of her cabinet colleagues are only in their current roles because they are part of Boris’s Brexit Cabal, when Brexit is ‘done’ and Boris leaves, so will the rest of them . I dont know her well enough or the job she does to make generalizations like being out of her depth and guess you dont either so you are probably just making that statement on political bias.
I am basing it on here last ministerial role and how she is performing in her current job . Do you think she is doing a good job as Home Secretary? Thats hard to say, crime is down but is that due to covid the same as stabbing but could be for the same reason,how many terrorist threats have been stopped who knows not us how do you judge how well a home secretary is doing?"
I base it on their actions, if they keep promising to do something (even if I am apposed to it) I expect them to get it done . Tbh it is irrelevant, she won’t be in the role much longer |
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over a year ago
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"https://www.gov.uk/government/news/ministerial-code-investigationNice one, you can see why Boris has not sacked her reading that.
Even if you ignore the bullying allegations she has been a terrible Home Secretary, what has she actually achieved ? All talk and no action, she will be the first to go when Boris leaves next year Hasn't she been busy on the new immigration bill?
I have no idea, she keeps ‘talking tough’ on the issue of asylum seekers and coming up with strange ideas, it hasn’t stopped them getting here ? Now i do agree with you there but do home secretary's usually get credit for anything? .Police numbers are rising thats a plus.
It is a difficult job but she is out of her depth, she and many of her cabinet colleagues are only in their current roles because they are part of Boris’s Brexit Cabal, when Brexit is ‘done’ and Boris leaves, so will the rest of them . I dont know her well enough or the job she does to make generalizations like being out of her depth and guess you dont either so you are probably just making that statement on political bias.
I am basing it on here last ministerial role and how she is performing in her current job . Do you think she is doing a good job as Home Secretary? Thats hard to say, crime is down but is that due to covid the same as stabbing but could be for the same reason,how many terrorist threats have been stopped who knows not us how do you judge how well a home secretary is doing?
I base it on their actions, if they keep promising to do something (even if I am apposed to it) I expect them to get it done . Tbh it is irrelevant, she won’t be in the role much longer "
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"https://www.gov.uk/government/news/ministerial-code-investigationNice one, you can see why Boris has not sacked her reading that.
Even if you ignore the bullying allegations she has been a terrible Home Secretary, what has she actually achieved ? All talk and no action, she will be the first to go when Boris leaves next year Hasn't she been busy on the new immigration bill?
I have no idea, she keeps ‘talking tough’ on the issue of asylum seekers and coming up with strange ideas, it hasn’t stopped them getting here ? Now i do agree with you there but do home secretary's usually get credit for anything? .Police numbers are rising thats a plus.
It is a difficult job but she is out of her depth, she and many of her cabinet colleagues are only in their current roles because they are part of Boris’s Brexit Cabal, when Brexit is ‘done’ and Boris leaves, so will the rest of them . I dont know her well enough or the job she does to make generalizations like being out of her depth and guess you dont either so you are probably just making that statement on political bias.
I am basing it on here last ministerial role and how she is performing in her current job . Do you think she is doing a good job as Home Secretary? Thats hard to say, crime is down but is that due to covid the same as stabbing but could be for the same reason,how many terrorist threats have been stopped who knows not us how do you judge how well a home secretary is doing?
I base it on their actions, if they keep promising to do something (even if I am apposed to it) I expect them to get it done . Tbh it is irrelevant, she won’t be in the role much longer What exactly immigrants coming to the uk? "
Like I said, it will be irrelevant in less than 12 months as she won’t still be in the job |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"https://www.gov.uk/government/news/ministerial-code-investigationNice one, you can see why Boris has not sacked her reading that.
Even if you ignore the bullying allegations she has been a terrible Home Secretary, what has she actually achieved ? All talk and no action, she will be the first to go when Boris leaves next year Hasn't she been busy on the new immigration bill?
I have no idea, she keeps ‘talking tough’ on the issue of asylum seekers and coming up with strange ideas, it hasn’t stopped them getting here ? Now i do agree with you there but do home secretary's usually get credit for anything? .Police numbers are rising thats a plus.
It is a difficult job but she is out of her depth, she and many of her cabinet colleagues are only in their current roles because they are part of Boris’s Brexit Cabal, when Brexit is ‘done’ and Boris leaves, so will the rest of them . I dont know her well enough or the job she does to make generalizations like being out of her depth and guess you dont either so you are probably just making that statement on political bias.
I am basing it on here last ministerial role and how she is performing in her current job . Do you think she is doing a good job as Home Secretary? Thats hard to say, crime is down but is that due to covid the same as stabbing but could be for the same reason,how many terrorist threats have been stopped who knows not us how do you judge how well a home secretary is doing?
I base it on their actions, if they keep promising to do something (even if I am apposed to it) I expect them to get it done . Tbh it is irrelevant, she won’t be in the role much longer What exactly immigrants coming to the uk?
Like I said, it will be irrelevant in less than 12 months as she won’t still be in the job "
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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago
Bristol |
"The chap that produced the report has now resigned. One assumes because he believes the action of the PM is insufficient. good for him stick by your principles i say."
Yes he resigned his post but let’s face it that is not the same as anyone else in normal life because he is not exactly out of work is he 
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"Nothing will happen to her. That's how low this government has sunk. If Boris sacked her, he'd have to appoint someone competent to replace her - and he can't do that because there are hardly any competent Tories; and the few there are voted Remain.
If there's anything good to come out of the report - if it ever actually sees the light of day - it will be that she will now have to behave herself when talking to her staff.
Although, I wouldn't want to bet on her doing that. It's in her nature to be a nasty little shite."
Well, what a surprise. I was right. Nothing happened to her. She's apologised, too. Of course, coming from her, it's insincere and meaningless.
I don't mind the Tories being Tories, wallowing in their own, "the rules don't apply to us" / "fuck the little people" shite.
What I do mind is being governed by people like Johnson, Patel, Raab, Hancock, Jenrick, Williamson and Gove - when less than half of the electorate assented to them forming a government.
Most people don't vote for these cunts for good reason. Those who do vote for them are clearly happy to enable the evil that they do.
If you think that's harsh; consider Grenfell Tower.
What about Blair's Iraq War, I hear you ask? Well, the Tories backed him up on that.
Tories - always happy to do the immoral thing, as long as it makes them money; and to not give a fuck about how what all the other people, the ones with a conscience, think about them. |
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"The chap that produced the report has now resigned. One assumes because he believes the action of the PM is insufficient. good for him stick by your principles i say.
Yes he resigned his post but let’s face it that is not the same as anyone else in normal life because he is not exactly out of work is he
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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago
Bristol |
"Nothing will happen to her. That's how low this government has sunk. If Boris sacked her, he'd have to appoint someone competent to replace her - and he can't do that because there are hardly any competent Tories; and the few there are voted Remain.
If there's anything good to come out of the report - if it ever actually sees the light of day - it will be that she will now have to behave herself when talking to her staff.
Although, I wouldn't want to bet on her doing that. It's in her nature to be a nasty little shite.
Well, what a surprise. I was right. Nothing happened to her. She's apologised, too. Of course, coming from her, it's insincere and meaningless.
I don't mind the Tories being Tories, wallowing in their own, "the rules don't apply to us" / "fuck the little people" shite.
What I do mind is being governed by people like Johnson, Patel, Raab, Hancock, Jenrick, Williamson and Gove - when less than half of the electorate assented to them forming a government.
Most people don't vote for these cunts for good reason. Those who do vote for them are clearly happy to enable the evil that they do.
If you think that's harsh; consider Grenfell Tower.
What about Blair's Iraq War, I hear you ask? Well, the Tories backed him up on that.
Tories - always happy to do the immoral thing, as long as it makes them money; and to not give a fuck about how what all the other people, the ones with a conscience, think about them."
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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago
Bristol |
"The chap that produced the report has now resigned. One assumes because he believes the action of the PM is insufficient. good for him stick by your principles i say.
Yes he resigned his post but let’s face it that is not the same as anyone else in normal life because he is not exactly out of work is he
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Its called integrity "
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over a year ago
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"The chap that produced the report has now resigned. One assumes because he believes the action of the PM is insufficient. good for him stick by your principles i say.
Yes he resigned his post but let’s face it that is not the same as anyone else in normal life because he is not exactly out of work is he
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Its called integrity
No it’s called not really being out of a job "
Why is that relevant? He resigned from his role because he was undermined, it’s called integrity. |
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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago
Bristol |
"The chap that produced the report has now resigned. One assumes because he believes the action of the PM is insufficient. good for him stick by your principles i say.
Yes he resigned his post but let’s face it that is not the same as anyone else in normal life because he is not exactly out of work is he
Empty gestures
Its called integrity
No it’s called not really being out of a job
Why is that relevant? He resigned from his role because he was undermined, it’s called integrity. "
But he is still not out of a job and not exactly going to be out on the street is he
I’m sure he will suffer no hardship in any way at all.
I would have been more impressed if he had stood his ground and kept going with his opinion.
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
Grantham |
"Nothing will happen to her. That's how low this government has sunk. If Boris sacked her, he'd have to appoint someone competent to replace her - and he can't do that because there are hardly any competent Tories; and the few there are voted Remain.
If there's anything good to come out of the report - if it ever actually sees the light of day - it will be that she will now have to behave herself when talking to her staff.
Although, I wouldn't want to bet on her doing that. It's in her nature to be a nasty little shite.
Well, what a surprise. I was right. Nothing happened to her. She's apologised, too. Of course, coming from her, it's insincere and meaningless.
I don't mind the Tories being Tories, wallowing in their own, "the rules don't apply to us" / "fuck the little people" shite.
What I do mind is being governed by people like Johnson, Patel, Raab, Hancock, Jenrick, Williamson and Gove - when less than half of the electorate assented to them forming a government.
Most people don't vote for these cunts for good reason. Those who do vote for them are clearly happy to enable the evil that they do.
If you think that's harsh; consider Grenfell Tower.
What about Blair's Iraq War, I hear you ask? Well, the Tories backed him up on that.
Tories - always happy to do the immoral thing, as long as it makes them money; and to not give a fuck about how what all the other people, the ones with a conscience, think about them."
Maybe you'd also like to remind us of the vote share of your beloved SNP at the last Holyrood elections?
Was it 46% of 55% of the electotate?
Hypocrisy has a habit of kicking your arse like that! |
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By *exy7 OP Man
over a year ago
Bristol |
Those who are still defending Boris Johnson and his clowns from the gvt are in the same vain as the simpletons still believing in Trump’s bullshit two weeks after his defeat. They are pretty much the same mob but without a gun. No sense of morale, no sense of integrity and only one rule: the end justifies the means.
I can understand why people may want to vote for a Tory government but come on, the current lot are just despicable and repugnant. Do those who still defend them after all the scandals of the past ten months really believe all their lies or have they been brainwashed?
If people died from being ridicule, this lot would have been dead and buried fir a long time. This current government is an insult to politics and decency.
The same goes for those who still support them. I dread to think what kind of values and morale their own children. |
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By *lex46TV/TS
over a year ago
Near Wells |
"Those who are still defending Boris Johnson and his clowns from the gvt are in the same vain as the simpletons still believing in Trump’s bullshit two weeks after his defeat. They are pretty much the same mob but without a gun. No sense of morale, no sense of integrity and only one rule: the end justifies the means.
I can understand why people may want to vote for a Tory government but come on, the current lot are just despicable and repugnant. Do those who still defend them after all the scandals of the past ten months really believe all their lies or have they been brainwashed?
If people died from being ridicule, this lot would have been dead and buried fir a long time. This current government is an insult to politics and decency.
The same goes for those who still support them. I dread to think what kind of values and morale their own children. "
So, who do you think would be a better alternative? |
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"Those who are still defending Boris Johnson and his clowns from the gvt are in the same vain as the simpletons still believing in Trump’s bullshit two weeks after his defeat. They are pretty much the same mob but without a gun. No sense of morale, no sense of integrity and only one rule: the end justifies the means.
I can understand why people may want to vote for a Tory government but come on, the current lot are just despicable and repugnant. Do those who still defend them after all the scandals of the past ten months really believe all their lies or have they been brainwashed?
If people died from being ridicule, this lot would have been dead and buried fir a long time. This current government is an insult to politics and decency.
The same goes for those who still support them. I dread to think what kind of values and morale their own children.
So, who do you think would be a better alternative? "
Sack her |
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By *exy7 OP Man
over a year ago
Bristol |
"Just watched her interview...bloody disgusting.
Cummings can drive miles, Patel Bully's, what else ? "
Let poor kids starve.
Close parliament illegally
Award contacts to their mates
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"Those who are still defending Boris Johnson and his clowns from the gvt are in the same vain as the simpletons still believing in Trump’s bullshit two weeks after his defeat. They are pretty much the same mob but without a gun. No sense of morale, no sense of integrity and only one rule: the end justifies the means.
I can understand why people may want to vote for a Tory government but come on, the current lot are just despicable and repugnant. Do those who still defend them after all the scandals of the past ten months really believe all their lies or have they been brainwashed?
If people died from being ridicule, this lot would have been dead and buried fir a long time. This current government is an insult to politics and decency.
The same goes for those who still support them. I dread to think what kind of values and morale their own children. "
I have voted tory in the past but not this bunch, and just don't trust any of this cabinet one bit.
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"It would be interesting to know what these people class as bullying
Saying “No, I want it done like this, now do your fucking job!”
That would probably be enough in Whitehall.
S"
Is this "bullying" because of the word fucking or because they have been asked to work? |
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"Those who are still defending Boris Johnson and his clowns from the gvt are in the same vain as the simpletons still believing in Trump’s bullshit two weeks after his defeat. They are pretty much the same mob but without a gun. No sense of morale, no sense of integrity and only one rule: the end justifies the means.
I can understand why people may want to vote for a Tory government but come on, the current lot are just despicable and repugnant. Do those who still defend them after all the scandals of the past ten months really believe all their lies or have they been brainwashed?
If people died from being ridicule, this lot would have been dead and buried fir a long time. This current government is an insult to politics and decency.
The same goes for those who still support them. I dread to think what kind of values and morale their own children. "
Their children will have far better manners and respect for other people than you do that's for sure.
You should maybe look at yourself and ask yourself why am I and people like me always on the losing side? |
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"It would be interesting to know what these people class as bullying
Saying “No, I want it done like this, now do your fucking job!”
That would probably be enough in Whitehall.
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By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago
West Wales |
"It would be interesting to know what these people class as bullying
Saying “No, I want it done like this, now do your fucking job!”
That would probably be enough in Whitehall.
S
Is this "bullying" because of the word fucking or because they have been asked to work?"
I’ve always considered Whitehall to be who runs the country, sure the public face in Westminster changes & big ticket items get binned or exchanged depending on whose face is speaking at PM’s question time but the people behind the scenes that have for years said yay or nay have been the same.
Perhaps someone rattled their cage
But I bet it was the word fucking
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By * Plus ECouple
over a year ago
The South |
"It would be interesting to know what these people class as bullying
Saying “No, I want it done like this, now do your fucking job!”
That would probably be enough in Whitehall.
S
Is this "bullying" because of the word fucking or because they have been asked to work?
I’ve always considered Whitehall to be who runs the country, sure the public face in Westminster changes & big ticket items get binned or exchanged depending on whose face is speaking at PM’s question time but the people behind the scenes that have for years said yay or nay have been the same.
Perhaps someone rattled their cage
But I bet it was the word fucking
S"
*Ahemcough Yes Minister.
Summed up what you just said perfectly. A brilliant series and captured politicians and civil servants perfectly.
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By *exy7 OP Man
over a year ago
Bristol |
"Those who are still defending Boris Johnson and his clowns from the gvt are in the same vain as the simpletons still believing in Trump’s bullshit two weeks after his defeat. They are pretty much the same mob but without a gun. No sense of morale, no sense of integrity and only one rule: the end justifies the means.
I can understand why people may want to vote for a Tory government but come on, the current lot are just despicable and repugnant. Do those who still defend them after all the scandals of the past ten months really believe all their lies or have they been brainwashed?
If people died from being ridicule, this lot would have been dead and buried fir a long time. This current government is an insult to politics and decency.
The same goes for those who still support them. I dread to think what kind of values and morale their own children.
Their children will have far better manners and respect for other people than you do that's for sure.
You should maybe look at yourself and ask yourself why am I and people like me always on the losing side? "
The losing side of what?
I’ll repeat that people like you who are defending this current gvt are condoning people who blatantly lie everyday, who evade scrutiny, who cheat, who don’t take responsibility for their mistakes, who think that the end justifies the means and who appeal to the lowest instincts of people. The same characteristics in a child would be despicable. I’m sure that’s how you like your children to conduct themselves. I might have lost the brexit vote but you have the values of a perpetual loser who is aggrieved about everything to the point where any means justifies the end. Poor sod. |
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By *exy7 OP Man
over a year ago
Bristol |
"Those who are still defending Boris Johnson and his clowns from the gvt are in the same vain as the simpletons still believing in Trump’s bullshit two weeks after his defeat. They are pretty much the same mob but without a gun. No sense of morale, no sense of integrity and only one rule: the end justifies the means.
I can understand why people may want to vote for a Tory government but come on, the current lot are just despicable and repugnant. Do those who still defend them after all the scandals of the past ten months really believe all their lies or have they been brainwashed?
If people died from being ridicule, this lot would have been dead and buried fir a long time. This current government is an insult to politics and decency.
The same goes for those who still support them. I dread to think what kind of values and morale their own children.
I have voted tory in the past but not this bunch, and just don't trust any of this cabinet one bit.
All of the above is well said. "
Thank you. I have never voted tory but I can understand why people could vote for a person like Major or May. This lot are just the scum of the Earth on all fronts. An insult to our British values, integrity and democracy. Exactly like Trump albeit more subtle. |
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I’ll repeat that people like you who are defending this current gvt are condoning people who blatantly lie everyday, who evade scrutiny, who cheat, who don’t take responsibility for their mistakes, who think that the end justifies the means and who appeal to the lowest instincts of people. The same characteristics in a child would be despicable. I’m sure that’s how you like your children to conduct themselves. I might have lost the brexit vote but you have the values of a perpetual loser who is aggrieved about everything to the point where any means justifies the end. Poor sod. "
"people who blatantly lie everyday, who evade scrutiny, who cheat, who don’t take responsibility for their mistakes, who think that the end justifies the means and who appeal to the lowest instincts of people"
Could be said of most politicians of any bent |
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By *exy7 OP Man
over a year ago
Bristol |
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I’ll repeat that people like you who are defending this current gvt are condoning people who blatantly lie everyday, who evade scrutiny, who cheat, who don’t take responsibility for their mistakes, who think that the end justifies the means and who appeal to the lowest instincts of people. The same characteristics in a child would be despicable. I’m sure that’s how you like your children to conduct themselves. I might have lost the brexit vote but you have the values of a perpetual loser who is aggrieved about everything to the point where any means justifies the end. Poor sod.
"people who blatantly lie everyday, who evade scrutiny, who cheat, who don’t take responsibility for their mistakes, who think that the end justifies the means and who appeal to the lowest instincts of people"
Could be said of most politicians of any bent"
Not sure about this. They’re not the most honest of people but this lot are clearly different league. A populist bunch with no sense of moral values. And when you look at the guy who’s leading the team, no wonder. How can you expect a guy who’s been a serial liar all his life, has had children with countless of women he probably can’t remember, had two stances on Brexit until he chose to go for Leave, accuses his opponents as well as MPs of his own party to be traitors, refuses to be interviewed by Andrew Neil like everybody else, accuses the French be turds etc.. not to lead a gvt cut from the same cloth. Johnson is our Trump. |
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"Those who are still defending Boris Johnson and his clowns from the gvt are in the same vain as the simpletons still believing in Trump’s bullshit two weeks after his defeat. They are pretty much the same mob but without a gun. No sense of morale, no sense of integrity and only one rule: the end justifies the means.
I can understand why people may want to vote for a Tory government but come on, the current lot are just despicable and repugnant. Do those who still defend them after all the scandals of the past ten months really believe all their lies or have they been brainwashed?
If people died from being ridicule, this lot would have been dead and buried fir a long time. This current government is an insult to politics and decency.
The same goes for those who still support them. I dread to think what kind of values and morale their own children.
Their children will have far better manners and respect for other people than you do that's for sure.
You should maybe look at yourself and ask yourself why am I and people like me always on the losing side?
The losing side of what?
I’ll repeat that people like you who are defending this current gvt are condoning people who blatantly lie everyday, who evade scrutiny, who cheat, who don’t take responsibility for their mistakes, who think that the end justifies the means and who appeal to the lowest instincts of people. The same characteristics in a child would be despicable. I’m sure that’s how you like your children to conduct themselves. I might have lost the brexit vote but you have the values of a perpetual loser who is aggrieved about everything to the point where any means justifies the end. Poor sod. "
Losing side in every debate and vote. The majority of people in this country are sick of listening to people like you who have no respect for the opinions of others, you are a bigot with a misguided sense of superiority and the only thing that grieves me are people like you,whereas you are angry about everything, one only has to read your posts. Maybe you are really just angry with and disappointed with yourself. Have a nice day |
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By *exy7 OP Man
over a year ago
Bristol |
"Those who are still defending Boris Johnson and his clowns from the gvt are in the same vain as the simpletons still believing in Trump’s bullshit two weeks after his defeat. They are pretty much the same mob but without a gun. No sense of morale, no sense of integrity and only one rule: the end justifies the means.
I can understand why people may want to vote for a Tory government but come on, the current lot are just despicable and repugnant. Do those who still defend them after all the scandals of the past ten months really believe all their lies or have they been brainwashed?
If people died from being ridicule, this lot would have been dead and buried fir a long time. This current government is an insult to politics and decency.
The same goes for those who still support them. I dread to think what kind of values and morale their own children.
Their children will have far better manners and respect for other people than you do that's for sure.
You should maybe look at yourself and ask yourself why am I and people like me always on the losing side?
The losing side of what?
I’ll repeat that people like you who are defending this current gvt are condoning people who blatantly lie everyday, who evade scrutiny, who cheat, who don’t take responsibility for their mistakes, who think that the end justifies the means and who appeal to the lowest instincts of people. The same characteristics in a child would be despicable. I’m sure that’s how you like your children to conduct themselves. I might have lost the brexit vote but you have the values of a perpetual loser who is aggrieved about everything to the point where any means justifies the end. Poor sod.
Losing side in every debate and vote. The majority of people in this country are sick of listening to people like you who have no respect for the opinions of others, you are a bigot with a misguided sense of superiority and the only thing that grieves me are people like you,whereas you are angry about everything, one only has to read your posts. Maybe you are really just angry with and disappointed with yourself. Have a nice day "
Nice way to avoid the point I make. You’re the same as your idol. When push comes to shove at pm’s questions there’s no one left and he’s left floundering.
Theres more to my life than winning a referendum and a couple of elections on the trot. Your seems to be defined by winning at all costs and you don’t seem to have anything worthwhile apart from winning.
I hope you’re not a teacher, a doctor and that you have as little influence as possible on a tiny amount of people.
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By *exy7 OP Man
over a year ago
Bristol |
"Those who are still defending Boris Johnson and his clowns from the gvt are in the same vain as the simpletons still believing in Trump’s bullshit two weeks after his defeat. They are pretty much the same mob but without a gun. No sense of morale, no sense of integrity and only one rule: the end justifies the means.
I can understand why people may want to vote for a Tory government but come on, the current lot are just despicable and repugnant. Do those who still defend them after all the scandals of the past ten months really believe all their lies or have they been brainwashed?
If people died from being ridicule, this lot would have been dead and buried fir a long time. This current government is an insult to politics and decency.
The same goes for those who still support them. I dread to think what kind of values and morale their own children.
Their children will have far better manners and respect for other people than you do that's for sure.
You should maybe look at yourself and ask yourself why am I and people like me always on the losing side?
The losing side of what?
I’ll repeat that people like you who are defending this current gvt are condoning people who blatantly lie everyday, who evade scrutiny, who cheat, who don’t take responsibility for their mistakes, who think that the end justifies the means and who appeal to the lowest instincts of people. The same characteristics in a child would be despicable. I’m sure that’s how you like your children to conduct themselves. I might have lost the brexit vote but you have the values of a perpetual loser who is aggrieved about everything to the point where any means justifies the end. Poor sod.
Losing side in every debate and vote. The majority of people in this country are sick of listening to people like you who have no respect for the opinions of others, you are a bigot with a misguided sense of superiority and the only thing that grieves me are people like you,whereas you are angry about everything, one only has to read your posts. Maybe you are really just angry with and disappointed with yourself. Have a nice day "
Oh and by the way, you’re so aggrieved by life and your massive complex of inferiority that when asked what is positive about Brexit your answer is ‘pissing off the remainers’. You’re such a sad git, honestly.
However, there’s always hope for people like you. Politics is made of cycles. Thatcher left in tears, Trump is leaving and now looks like a cry baby. The same thing will happen to Johnson and at some point, some form of normality will resume. |
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I think it's an easy trap to fall into that bullying is just a firm manager and a weak employee who needs chivvying up aided by some industrial language..
Harassment and bullying are serious and debilitating for the recipient and any decent competent manager should not need to resort to such things..
Boris tried to get the independent investigation watered down which in any sphere is wrong and should be seen as such.. |
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"I think it's an easy trap to fall into that bullying is just a firm manager and a weak employee who needs chivvying up aided by some industrial language..
Harassment and bullying are serious and debilitating for the recipient and any decent competent manager should not need to resort to such things..
Boris tried to get the independent investigation watered down which in any sphere is wrong and should be seen as such.."
Are you surprised that Bojo tried to influence the report? There’s no limit to how disgusting and unethical this gvt is. |
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"I think it's an easy trap to fall into that bullying is just a firm manager and a weak employee who needs chivvying up aided by some industrial language..
Harassment and bullying are serious and debilitating for the recipient and any decent competent manager should not need to resort to such things..
Boris tried to get the independent investigation watered down which in any sphere is wrong and should be seen as such..
Are you surprised that Bojo tried to influence the report? There’s no limit to how disgusting and unethical this gvt is. "
No, not at all but tbh my own opinion is there are some similar less appealing traits with many governments..
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"I think it's an easy trap to fall into that bullying is just a firm manager and a weak employee who needs chivvying up aided by some industrial language..
Harassment and bullying are serious and debilitating for the recipient and any decent competent manager should not need to resort to such things..
Boris tried to get the independent investigation watered down which in any sphere is wrong and should be seen as such..
Are you surprised that Bojo tried to influence the report? There’s no limit to how disgusting and unethical this gvt is.
No, not at all but tbh my own opinion is there are some similar less appealing traits with many governments..
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I agree and there’s no doubt about this.
However we are talking here about a gvt that has illegally shut parliament, has awarded countless of contracts to their friends, has accepted to have ruthless and unethical people in 10 Downing Street pulling the strings, have a minister breaching the code of conduct not losing her job, avoid showing their face on programmes such as Newsnight everyday, are happy to break international law, try to influence independent inquiries etc... No need to look far behind. May may not have been a successful PM but how many of these things did her gvt do?
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"I think it's an easy trap to fall into that bullying is just a firm manager and a weak employee who needs chivvying up aided by some industrial language..
Harassment and bullying are serious and debilitating for the recipient and any decent competent manager should not need to resort to such things..
Boris tried to get the independent investigation watered down which in any sphere is wrong and should be seen as such..
Are you surprised that Bojo tried to influence the report? There’s no limit to how disgusting and unethical this gvt is.
No, not at all but tbh my own opinion is there are some similar less appealing traits with many governments..
I agree and there’s no doubt about this.
However we are talking here about a gvt that has illegally shut parliament, has awarded countless of contracts to their friends, has accepted to have ruthless and unethical people in 10 Downing Street pulling the strings, have a minister breaching the code of conduct not losing her job, avoid showing their face on programmes such as Newsnight everyday, are happy to break international law, try to influence independent inquiries etc... No need to look far behind. May may not have been a successful PM but how many of these things did her gvt do?
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Anyone can green arrow my thoughts on him and this present cabinet..
He's desperate to maintain a close cabal of brexit idealistic zealots at the expense of all else..
It won't end well.. |
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"I think it's an easy trap to fall into that bullying is just a firm manager and a weak employee who needs chivvying up aided by some industrial language..
Harassment and bullying are serious and debilitating for the recipient and any decent competent manager should not need to resort to such things..
Boris tried to get the independent investigation watered down which in any sphere is wrong and should be seen as such.."
It’s a very fine line which can go either way I guess, and can be affected by the willingness of everyone in the workplace to participate or otherwise. From experience, you can try any number of techniques to get the horse to drink, however sometimes the horse just isn’t thirsty (and in most cases the only option for the horse is a trip to the glue factory - joke  )
You are right though, it is a serious subject that is prevalent in most workplaces. |
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Would agree, it certainly is a case of knowledge and experience in dealing with different people..
Perhaps that's part of Patel's issue as if there's a common denominator in three instances it's more likely the former..
Boris seems to be unwilling or not capable of censuring those close to him, Jenrick then Cummings and now Patel..
Making a rod for his own back .. |
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"Would agree, it certainly is a case of knowledge and experience in dealing with different people..
Perhaps that's part of Patel's issue as if there's a common denominator in three instances it's more likely the former..
Boris seems to be unwilling or not capable of censuring those close to him, Jenrick then Cummings and now Patel..
Making a rod for his own back .."
Or not letting the media decide who he fires. I would imagine that the majority in the country back him over Patel |
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"Would agree, it certainly is a case of knowledge and experience in dealing with different people..
Perhaps that's part of Patel's issue as if there's a common denominator in three instances it's more likely the former..
Boris seems to be unwilling or not capable of censuring those close to him, Jenrick then Cummings and now Patel..
Making a rod for his own back ..
Or not letting the media decide who he fires. I would imagine that the majority in the country back him over Patel "
It's not about the media it's about people going to work and being able to do so without fear of being in an environment of bullying and harassment..
It's not a subject that should be political it's simply common decency and there are laws which cover it..
And as for the majority, if one person finds it acceptable then they are wrong and need to take a look at why the think bullying is ok..
It's not, it's really simple.. |
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"Would agree, it certainly is a case of knowledge and experience in dealing with different people..
Perhaps that's part of Patel's issue as if there's a common denominator in three instances it's more likely the former..
Boris seems to be unwilling or not capable of censuring those close to him, Jenrick then Cummings and now Patel..
Making a rod for his own back ..
Or not letting the media decide who he fires. I would imagine that the majority in the country back him over Patel
It's not about the media it's about people going to work and being able to do so without fear of being in an environment of bullying and harassment..
It's not a subject that should be political it's simply common decency and there are laws which cover it..
And as for the majority, if one person finds it acceptable then they are wrong and need to take a look at why the think bullying is ok..
It's not, it's really simple.."
I think you will find that most people will have a different view of what constitutes bullying and as the report found that she was 'legitimately frustrated' by civil servants poor performance and her reaction towards them could be seen as bullying, doesn't make it so does it? They would call it that though wouldn't they? And as for Sir Philip Rutnam who started all this by saying she used to shout and swear and was frightening..... Frightening for goodness sake.... A grown man and Knight of the realm. What he really means is I was so used to yes men and getting my own way that I could not stand being told what to do by a feisty young woman and just had to make my excuses and get out of there.
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"Would agree, it certainly is a case of knowledge and experience in dealing with different people..
Perhaps that's part of Patel's issue as if there's a common denominator in three instances it's more likely the former..
Boris seems to be unwilling or not capable of censuring those close to him, Jenrick then Cummings and now Patel..
Making a rod for his own back ..
Or not letting the media decide who he fires. I would imagine that the majority in the country back him over Patel
It's not about the media it's about people going to work and being able to do so without fear of being in an environment of bullying and harassment..
It's not a subject that should be political it's simply common decency and there are laws which cover it..
And as for the majority, if one person finds it acceptable then they are wrong and need to take a look at why the think bullying is ok..
It's not, it's really simple..
I think you will find that most people will have a different view of what constitutes bullying and as the report found that she was 'legitimately frustrated' by civil servants poor performance and her reaction towards them could be seen as bullying, doesn't make it so does it? They would call it that though wouldn't they? And as for Sir Philip Rutnam who started all this by saying she used to shout and swear and was frightening..... Frightening for goodness sake.... A grown man and Knight of the realm. What he really means is I was so used to yes men and getting my own way that I could not stand being told what to do by a feisty young woman and just had to make my excuses and get out of there.
Bullying my arse"
Listen just say that for you as a person bullying is fine, it's preferable to deflection and whataboutery..
At least then your owning your own truth..
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"Would agree, it certainly is a case of knowledge and experience in dealing with different people..
Perhaps that's part of Patel's issue as if there's a common denominator in three instances it's more likely the former..
Boris seems to be unwilling or not capable of censuring those close to him, Jenrick then Cummings and now Patel..
Making a rod for his own back ..
Or not letting the media decide who he fires. I would imagine that the majority in the country back him over Patel
It's not about the media it's about people going to work and being able to do so without fear of being in an environment of bullying and harassment..
It's not a subject that should be political it's simply common decency and there are laws which cover it..
And as for the majority, if one person finds it acceptable then they are wrong and need to take a look at why the think bullying is ok..
It's not, it's really simple..
I think you will find that most people will have a different view of what constitutes bullying and as the report found that she was 'legitimately frustrated' by civil servants poor performance and her reaction towards them could be seen as bullying, doesn't make it so does it? They would call it that though wouldn't they? And as for Sir Philip Rutnam who started all this by saying she used to shout and swear and was frightening..... Frightening for goodness sake.... A grown man and Knight of the realm. What he really means is I was so used to yes men and getting my own way that I could not stand being told what to do by a feisty young woman and just had to make my excuses and get out of there.
Bullying my arse
Listen just say that for you as a person bullying is fine, it's preferable to deflection and whataboutery..
At least then your owning your own truth..
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There is no deflection or whataboutary here and no, bullying is not fine with me. If you want to provide proof that Patel bullied anyone then go ahead |
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"Would agree, it certainly is a case of knowledge and experience in dealing with different people..
Perhaps that's part of Patel's issue as if there's a common denominator in three instances it's more likely the former..
Boris seems to be unwilling or not capable of censuring those close to him, Jenrick then Cummings and now Patel..
Making a rod for his own back ..
Or not letting the media decide who he fires. I would imagine that the majority in the country back him over Patel
It's not about the media it's about people going to work and being able to do so without fear of being in an environment of bullying and harassment..
It's not a subject that should be political it's simply common decency and there are laws which cover it..
And as for the majority, if one person finds it acceptable then they are wrong and need to take a look at why the think bullying is ok..
It's not, it's really simple..
I think you will find that most people will have a different view of what constitutes bullying and as the report found that she was 'legitimately frustrated' by civil servants poor performance and her reaction towards them could be seen as bullying, doesn't make it so does it? They would call it that though wouldn't they? And as for Sir Philip Rutnam who started all this by saying she used to shout and swear and was frightening..... Frightening for goodness sake.... A grown man and Knight of the realm. What he really means is I was so used to yes men and getting my own way that I could not stand being told what to do by a feisty young woman and just had to make my excuses and get out of there.
Bullying my arse
Listen just say that for you as a person bullying is fine, it's preferable to deflection and whataboutery..
At least then your owning your own truth..
There is no deflection or whataboutary here and no, bullying is not fine with me. If you want to provide proof that Patel bullied anyone then go ahead "
This might not be easy for you but go and read what the report said, look at it objectively perhaps..
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"Would agree, it certainly is a case of knowledge and experience in dealing with different people..
Perhaps that's part of Patel's issue as if there's a common denominator in three instances it's more likely the former..
Boris seems to be unwilling or not capable of censuring those close to him, Jenrick then Cummings and now Patel..
Making a rod for his own back ..
Or not letting the media decide who he fires. I would imagine that the majority in the country back him over Patel
It's not about the media it's about people going to work and being able to do so without fear of being in an environment of bullying and harassment..
It's not a subject that should be political it's simply common decency and there are laws which cover it..
And as for the majority, if one person finds it acceptable then they are wrong and need to take a look at why the think bullying is ok..
It's not, it's really simple..
I think you will find that most people will have a different view of what constitutes bullying and as the report found that she was 'legitimately frustrated' by civil servants poor performance and her reaction towards them could be seen as bullying, doesn't make it so does it? They would call it that though wouldn't they? And as for Sir Philip Rutnam who started all this by saying she used to shout and swear and was frightening..... Frightening for goodness sake.... A grown man and Knight of the realm. What he really means is I was so used to yes men and getting my own way that I could not stand being told what to do by a feisty young woman and just had to make my excuses and get out of there.
Bullying my arse
Listen just say that for you as a person bullying is fine, it's preferable to deflection and whataboutery..
At least then your owning your own truth..
There is no deflection or whataboutary here and no, bullying is not fine with me. If you want to provide proof that Patel bullied anyone then go ahead
This might not be easy for you but go and read what the report said, look at it objectively perhaps..
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This might be news for but I have. And the report says any incidences of alleged bullying could have been unintentional. I am looking at this objectively and you are right this is not or should not be a political issue. If we were talking about a Labour home secretary then chances are I would be saying the same thing. Maybe you should look at this objectively and disregard your dislike of Patel and the Conservative party |
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There is a common theme across many of the threads in this forum.
Failure to acknowledge the actual facts.
Report says Labour dealt poorly with antisemitism. Therefore Corbyn is a racist that hates Jews...
Trump loses the election, in a landslide by his own measure. The Democrats cheated, you just need to find more votes...
Report says uniquivically Patel bullied people, they are obviously weak and need to man up. She's just a bit upset... |
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"There is a common theme across many of the threads in this forum.
Failure to acknowledge the actual facts.
Report says Labour dealt poorly with antisemitism. Therefore Corbyn is a racist that hates Jews...
Trump loses the election, in a landslide by his own measure. The Democrats cheated, you just need to find more votes...
Report says uniquivically Patel bullied people, they are obviously weak and need to man up. She's just a bit upset... "
Where does the report say she unequivocally bullied people? you must have read a different one to me. |
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By *exy7 OP Man
over a year ago
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"I find it highly amusing that anti tories are defending a toff who was on £175,000 a year went to harvard and cambridge over a grammer school girl.The guy who got amber rudd the sack only to be found later that she had not been given the correct info by him.At the windrush inquiry the guy who said ive only been in the job a year im not an expert in the immigration system.The guy who complained at the inquiry he had not been furnished with the questions before hand.The guy who admitted to deeply regrettable and completely unacceptable mistakes over the 2012 west coast rail fiasco. Im not suprised she was frustrated.
Also why did he not complain at the time? "
Who cares how much this guy was on?
What has this story or the bullying got to do with how much this guy earns it if he is toff or was a plumber?
But as always here, our Tory lovers here would decent anything done by this gvt. Have a bit of integrity for god fake. This is just wrong regardless of the circumstances of the victim.
How can you r left to have politicians to have any integrity or honesty if even people who part of the general public can’t even look at this impartially?
Ridiculous but I assume that if he’d been Abbott or Tom Eatson you’d be up in arms... |
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"I find it highly amusing that anti tories are defending a toff who was on £175,000 a year went to harvard and cambridge over a grammer school girl.The guy who got amber rudd the sack only to be found later that she had not been given the correct info by him.At the windrush inquiry the guy who said ive only been in the job a year im not an expert in the immigration system.The guy who complained at the inquiry he had not been furnished with the questions before hand.The guy who admitted to deeply regrettable and completely unacceptable mistakes over the 2012 west coast rail fiasco. Im not suprised she was frustrated.
Also why did he not complain at the time?
Who cares how much this guy was on?
What has this story or the bullying got to do with how much this guy earns it if he is toff or was a plumber?
But as always here, our Tory lovers here would decent anything done by this gvt. Have a bit of integrity for god fake. This is just wrong regardless of the circumstances of the victim.
How can you r left to have politicians to have any integrity or honesty if even people who part of the general public can’t even look at this impartially?
Ridiculous but I assume that if he’d been Abbott or Tom Eatson you’d be up in arms... "
i still find it funny. |
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"I find it highly amusing that anti tories are defending a toff who was on £175,000 a year went to harvard and cambridge over a grammer school girl.The guy who got amber rudd the sack only to be found later that she had not been given the correct info by him.At the windrush inquiry the guy who said ive only been in the job a year im not an expert in the immigration system.The guy who complained at the inquiry he had not been furnished with the questions before hand.The guy who admitted to deeply regrettable and completely unacceptable mistakes over the 2012 west coast rail fiasco. Im not suprised she was frustrated.
Also why did he not complain at the time?
Who cares how much this guy was on?
What has this story or the bullying got to do with how much this guy earns it if he is toff or was a plumber?
But as always here, our Tory lovers here would decent anything done by this gvt. Have a bit of integrity for god fake. This is just wrong regardless of the circumstances of the victim.
How can you r left to have politicians to have any integrity or honesty if even people who part of the general public can’t even look at this impartially?
Ridiculous but I assume that if he’d been Abbott or Tom Eatson you’d be up in arms... i still find it funny. "
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"I find it highly amusing that anti tories are defending a toff who was on £175,000 a year went to harvard and cambridge over a grammer school girl.The guy who got amber rudd the sack only to be found later that she had not been given the correct info by him.At the windrush inquiry the guy who said ive only been in the job a year im not an expert in the immigration system.The guy who complained at the inquiry he had not been furnished with the questions before hand.The guy who admitted to deeply regrettable and completely unacceptable mistakes over the 2012 west coast rail fiasco. Im not suprised she was frustrated.
Also why did he not complain at the time?
Who cares how much this guy was on?
What has this story or the bullying got to do with how much this guy earns it if he is toff or was a plumber?
But as always here, our Tory lovers here would decent anything done by this gvt. Have a bit of integrity for god fake. This is just wrong regardless of the circumstances of the victim.
How can you r left to have politicians to have any integrity or honesty if even people who part of the general public can’t even look at this impartially?
Ridiculous but I assume that if he’d been Abbott or Tom Eatson you’d be up in arms... i still find it funny.
Good. It’s not the toff I’m interested in. This guy is not the story. It’s bully Patel. "
still funny keep going i notice you only mention the toff and money nothing about his past incompetency. |
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"I find it highly amusing that anti tories are defending a toff who was on £175,000 a year went to harvard and cambridge over a grammer school girl.The guy who got amber rudd the sack only to be found later that she had not been given the correct info by him.At the windrush inquiry the guy who said ive only been in the job a year im not an expert in the immigration system.The guy who complained at the inquiry he had not been furnished with the questions before hand.The guy who admitted to deeply regrettable and completely unacceptable mistakes over the 2012 west coast rail fiasco. Im not suprised she was frustrated.
Also why did he not complain at the time?
Who cares how much this guy was on?
What has this story or the bullying got to do with how much this guy earns it if he is toff or was a plumber?
But as always here, our Tory lovers here would decent anything done by this gvt. Have a bit of integrity for god fake. This is just wrong regardless of the circumstances of the victim.
How can you r left to have politicians to have any integrity or honesty if even people who part of the general public can’t even look at this impartially?
Ridiculous but I assume that if he’d been Abbott or Tom Eatson you’d be up in arms... i still find it funny.
Good. It’s not the toff I’m interested in. This guy is not the story. It’s bully Patel. still funny keep going i notice you only mention the toff and money nothing about his past incompetency. "
You know a lot about incompetency yourself don’t you? You wank on this useless cabinet on a daily basis. |
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"I find it highly amusing that anti tories are defending a toff who was on £175,000 a year went to harvard and cambridge over a grammer school girl.The guy who got amber rudd the sack only to be found later that she had not been given the correct info by him.At the windrush inquiry the guy who said ive only been in the job a year im not an expert in the immigration system.The guy who complained at the inquiry he had not been furnished with the questions before hand.The guy who admitted to deeply regrettable and completely unacceptable mistakes over the 2012 west coast rail fiasco. Im not suprised she was frustrated.
Also why did he not complain at the time?
Who cares how much this guy was on?
What has this story or the bullying got to do with how much this guy earns it if he is toff or was a plumber?
But as always here, our Tory lovers here would decent anything done by this gvt. Have a bit of integrity for god fake. This is just wrong regardless of the circumstances of the victim.
How can you r left to have politicians to have any integrity or honesty if even people who part of the general public can’t even look at this impartially?
Ridiculous but I assume that if he’d been Abbott or Tom Eatson you’d be up in arms... i still find it funny.
Good. It’s not the toff I’m interested in. This guy is not the story. It’s bully Patel. still funny keep going i notice you only mention the toff and money nothing about his past incompetency. "
If someone is incompetent or there are performance concerns then there are avenues to address those, none of which is bullying behaviour.. |
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"There is a common theme across many of the threads in this forum.
Failure to acknowledge the actual facts.
Report says Labour dealt poorly with antisemitism. Therefore Corbyn is a racist that hates Jews...
Trump loses the election, in a landslide by his own measure. The Democrats cheated, you just need to find more votes...
Report says uniquivically Patel bullied people, they are obviously weak and need to man up. She's just a bit upset... "
One department then possibly clash of personalities etc but three..
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By *ostafunMan
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"There is a common theme across many of the threads in this forum.
Failure to acknowledge the actual facts.
Report says Labour dealt poorly with antisemitism. Therefore Corbyn is a racist that hates Jews...
Trump loses the election, in a landslide by his own measure. The Democrats cheated, you just need to find more votes...
Report says uniquivically Patel bullied people, they are obviously weak and need to man up. She's just a bit upset...
One department then possibly clash of personalities etc but three..
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Could possibly say the same about rutman with his previous with ministers. |
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"I find it highly amusing that anti tories are defending a toff who was on £175,000 a year went to harvard and cambridge over a grammer school girl.The guy who got amber rudd the sack only to be found later that she had not been given the correct info by him.At the windrush inquiry the guy who said ive only been in the job a year im not an expert in the immigration system.The guy who complained at the inquiry he had not been furnished with the questions before hand.The guy who admitted to deeply regrettable and completely unacceptable mistakes over the 2012 west coast rail fiasco. Im not suprised she was frustrated.
Also why did he not complain at the time?
Who cares how much this guy was on?
What has this story or the bullying got to do with how much this guy earns it if he is toff or was a plumber?
But as always here, our Tory lovers here would decent anything done by this gvt. Have a bit of integrity for god fake. This is just wrong regardless of the circumstances of the victim.
How can you r left to have politicians to have any integrity or honesty if even people who part of the general public can’t even look at this impartially?
Ridiculous but I assume that if he’d been Abbott or Tom Eatson you’d be up in arms... i still find it funny.
Good. It’s not the toff I’m interested in. This guy is not the story. It’s bully Patel. still funny keep going i notice you only mention the toff and money nothing about his past incompetency.
If someone is incompetent or there are performance concerns then there are avenues to address those, none of which is bullying behaviour.."
yes and when being bullied there are procedures too so why did he not follow them at the time and just carry on? could it be that he resigned knowing his days were numbered? |
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"I find it highly amusing that anti tories are defending a toff who was on £175,000 a year went to harvard and cambridge over a grammer school girl.The guy who got amber rudd the sack only to be found later that she had not been given the correct info by him.At the windrush inquiry the guy who said ive only been in the job a year im not an expert in the immigration system.The guy who complained at the inquiry he had not been furnished with the questions before hand.The guy who admitted to deeply regrettable and completely unacceptable mistakes over the 2012 west coast rail fiasco. Im not suprised she was frustrated.
Also why did he not complain at the time?
Who cares how much this guy was on?
What has this story or the bullying got to do with how much this guy earns it if he is toff or was a plumber?
But as always here, our Tory lovers here would decent anything done by this gvt. Have a bit of integrity for god fake. This is just wrong regardless of the circumstances of the victim.
How can you r left to have politicians to have any integrity or honesty if even people who part of the general public can’t even look at this impartially?
Ridiculous but I assume that if he’d been Abbott or Tom Eatson you’d be up in arms... i still find it funny.
Good. It’s not the toff I’m interested in. This guy is not the story. It’s bully Patel. still funny keep going i notice you only mention the toff and money nothing about his past incompetency.
If someone is incompetent or there are performance concerns then there are avenues to address those, none of which is bullying behaviour.. yes and when being bullied there are procedures too so why did he not follow them at the time and just carry on? could it be that he resigned knowing his days were numbered?"
He is not the only one, his issue will be dealt with in the tribunal when if by then Boris is still refusing to make open the report more will be divulged..
Nice try deflecting Costa but it's Patel who is the bully here..
Boris's judgement is equally a part of it.. |
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over a year ago
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"I find it highly amusing that anti tories are defending a toff who was on £175,000 a year went to harvard and cambridge over a grammer school girl.The guy who got amber rudd the sack only to be found later that she had not been given the correct info by him.At the windrush inquiry the guy who said ive only been in the job a year im not an expert in the immigration system.The guy who complained at the inquiry he had not been furnished with the questions before hand.The guy who admitted to deeply regrettable and completely unacceptable mistakes over the 2012 west coast rail fiasco. Im not suprised she was frustrated.
Also why did he not complain at the time?
Who cares how much this guy was on?
What has this story or the bullying got to do with how much this guy earns it if he is toff or was a plumber?
But as always here, our Tory lovers here would decent anything done by this gvt. Have a bit of integrity for god fake. This is just wrong regardless of the circumstances of the victim.
How can you r left to have politicians to have any integrity or honesty if even people who part of the general public can’t even look at this impartially?
Ridiculous but I assume that if he’d been Abbott or Tom Eatson you’d be up in arms... i still find it funny.
Good. It’s not the toff I’m interested in. This guy is not the story. It’s bully Patel. still funny keep going i notice you only mention the toff and money nothing about his past incompetency.
If someone is incompetent or there are performance concerns then there are avenues to address those, none of which is bullying behaviour.. yes and when being bullied there are procedures too so why did he not follow them at the time and just carry on? could it be that he resigned knowing his days were numbered?
He is not the only one, his issue will be dealt with in the tribunal when if by then Boris is still refusing to make open the report more will be divulged..
Nice try deflecting Costa but it's Patel who is the bully here..
Boris's judgement is equally a part of it.."
Not deflection at all the report said it could be interpreted as bullying not that it was.If the guy was incompetent then i could see why she got frustrated and her actions could be taken as bullying.We are talking about a grown man here why did he not complain at the time i ask myself because i know i would have.If she did not know her actions were offending him why would she change.If he didnt have the balls to confront her there are procedures they can go through why didnt he do that? |
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"I find it highly amusing that anti tories are defending a toff who was on £175,000 a year went to harvard and cambridge over a grammer school girl.The guy who got amber rudd the sack only to be found later that she had not been given the correct info by him.At the windrush inquiry the guy who said ive only been in the job a year im not an expert in the immigration system.The guy who complained at the inquiry he had not been furnished with the questions before hand.The guy who admitted to deeply regrettable and completely unacceptable mistakes over the 2012 west coast rail fiasco. Im not suprised she was frustrated.
Also why did he not complain at the time?
Who cares how much this guy was on?
What has this story or the bullying got to do with how much this guy earns it if he is toff or was a plumber?
But as always here, our Tory lovers here would decent anything done by this gvt. Have a bit of integrity for god fake. This is just wrong regardless of the circumstances of the victim.
How can you r left to have politicians to have any integrity or honesty if even people who part of the general public can’t even look at this impartially?
Ridiculous but I assume that if he’d been Abbott or Tom Eatson you’d be up in arms... i still find it funny.
Good. It’s not the toff I’m interested in. This guy is not the story. It’s bully Patel. still funny keep going i notice you only mention the toff and money nothing about his past incompetency.
If someone is incompetent or there are performance concerns then there are avenues to address those, none of which is bullying behaviour.. yes and when being bullied there are procedures too so why did he not follow them at the time and just carry on? could it be that he resigned knowing his days were numbered?
He is not the only one, his issue will be dealt with in the tribunal when if by then Boris is still refusing to make open the report more will be divulged..
Nice try deflecting Costa but it's Patel who is the bully here..
Boris's judgement is equally a part of it..Not deflection at all the report said it could be interpreted as bullying not that it was.If the guy was incompetent then i could see why she got frustrated and her actions could be taken as bullying.We are talking about a grown man here why did he not complain at the time i ask myself because i know i would have.If she did not know her actions were offending him why would she change.If he didnt have the balls to confront her there are procedures they can go through why didnt he do that?"
The report independent till Boris got his paws on it looked at three different departments so I think it's stretching it to assume it's only about one person..
It will come out yes but it's only going to confirm that she's a bully, and feigned ignorance just doesn't cut it..
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"I find it highly amusing that anti tories are defending a toff who was on £175,000 a year went to harvard and cambridge over a grammer school girl.The guy who got amber rudd the sack only to be found later that she had not been given the correct info by him.At the windrush inquiry the guy who said ive only been in the job a year im not an expert in the immigration system.The guy who complained at the inquiry he had not been furnished with the questions before hand.The guy who admitted to deeply regrettable and completely unacceptable mistakes over the 2012 west coast rail fiasco. Im not suprised she was frustrated.
Also why did he not complain at the time?
Who cares how much this guy was on?
What has this story or the bullying got to do with how much this guy earns it if he is toff or was a plumber?
But as always here, our Tory lovers here would decent anything done by this gvt. Have a bit of integrity for god fake. This is just wrong regardless of the circumstances of the victim.
How can you r left to have politicians to have any integrity or honesty if even people who part of the general public can’t even look at this impartially?
Ridiculous but I assume that if he’d been Abbott or Tom Eatson you’d be up in arms... i still find it funny.
Good. It’s not the toff I’m interested in. This guy is not the story. It’s bully Patel. still funny keep going i notice you only mention the toff and money nothing about his past incompetency.
If someone is incompetent or there are performance concerns then there are avenues to address those, none of which is bullying behaviour.. yes and when being bullied there are procedures too so why did he not follow them at the time and just carry on? could it be that he resigned knowing his days were numbered?
He is not the only one, his issue will be dealt with in the tribunal when if by then Boris is still refusing to make open the report more will be divulged..
Nice try deflecting Costa but it's Patel who is the bully here..
Boris's judgement is equally a part of it..Not deflection at all the report said it could be interpreted as bullying not that it was.If the guy was incompetent then i could see why she got frustrated and her actions could be taken as bullying.We are talking about a grown man here why did he not complain at the time i ask myself because i know i would have.If she did not know her actions were offending him why would she change.If he didnt have the balls to confront her there are procedures they can go through why didnt he do that?
The report independent till Boris got his paws on it looked at three different departments so I think it's stretching it to assume it's only about one person..
It will come out yes but it's only going to confirm that she's a bully, and feigned ignorance just doesn't cut it..
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"I find it highly amusing that anti tories are defending a toff who was on £175,000 a year went to harvard and cambridge over a grammer school girl.The guy who got amber rudd the sack only to be found later that she had not been given the correct info by him.At the windrush inquiry the guy who said ive only been in the job a year im not an expert in the immigration system.The guy who complained at the inquiry he had not been furnished with the questions before hand.The guy who admitted to deeply regrettable and completely unacceptable mistakes over the 2012 west coast rail fiasco. Im not suprised she was frustrated.
Also why did he not complain at the time?
Who cares how much this guy was on?
What has this story or the bullying got to do with how much this guy earns it if he is toff or was a plumber?
But as always here, our Tory lovers here would decent anything done by this gvt. Have a bit of integrity for god fake. This is just wrong regardless of the circumstances of the victim.
How can you r left to have politicians to have any integrity or honesty if even people who part of the general public can’t even look at this impartially?
Ridiculous but I assume that if he’d been Abbott or Tom Eatson you’d be up in arms... i still find it funny.
Good. It’s not the toff I’m interested in. This guy is not the story. It’s bully Patel. still funny keep going i notice you only mention the toff and money nothing about his past incompetency.
If someone is incompetent or there are performance concerns then there are avenues to address those, none of which is bullying behaviour.. yes and when being bullied there are procedures too so why did he not follow them at the time and just carry on? could it be that he resigned knowing his days were numbered?
He is not the only one, his issue will be dealt with in the tribunal when if by then Boris is still refusing to make open the report more will be divulged..
Nice try deflecting Costa but it's Patel who is the bully here..
Boris's judgement is equally a part of it..Not deflection at all the report said it could be interpreted as bullying not that it was.If the guy was incompetent then i could see why she got frustrated and her actions could be taken as bullying.We are talking about a grown man here why did he not complain at the time i ask myself because i know i would have.If she did not know her actions were offending him why would she change.If he didnt have the balls to confront her there are procedures they can go through why didnt he do that?
The report independent till Boris got his paws on it looked at three different departments so I think it's stretching it to assume it's only about one person..
It will come out yes but it's only going to confirm that she's a bully, and feigned ignorance just doesn't cut it..
Guilty until proven innocent eh, let's just put her in the gulag and have done "
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"I find it highly amusing that anti tories are defending a toff who was on £175,000 a year went to harvard and cambridge over a grammer school girl.The guy who got amber rudd the sack only to be found later that she had not been given the correct info by him.At the windrush inquiry the guy who said ive only been in the job a year im not an expert in the immigration system.The guy who complained at the inquiry he had not been furnished with the questions before hand.The guy who admitted to deeply regrettable and completely unacceptable mistakes over the 2012 west coast rail fiasco. Im not suprised she was frustrated.
Also why did he not complain at the time?
Who cares how much this guy was on?
What has this story or the bullying got to do with how much this guy earns it if he is toff or was a plumber?
But as always here, our Tory lovers here would decent anything done by this gvt. Have a bit of integrity for god fake. This is just wrong regardless of the circumstances of the victim.
How can you r left to have politicians to have any integrity or honesty if even people who part of the general public can’t even look at this impartially?
Ridiculous but I assume that if he’d been Abbott or Tom Eatson you’d be up in arms... i still find it funny.
Good. It’s not the toff I’m interested in. This guy is not the story. It’s bully Patel. still funny keep going i notice you only mention the toff and money nothing about his past incompetency.
If someone is incompetent or there are performance concerns then there are avenues to address those, none of which is bullying behaviour.. yes and when being bullied there are procedures too so why did he not follow them at the time and just carry on? could it be that he resigned knowing his days were numbered?
He is not the only one, his issue will be dealt with in the tribunal when if by then Boris is still refusing to make open the report more will be divulged..
Nice try deflecting Costa but it's Patel who is the bully here..
Boris's judgement is equally a part of it..Not deflection at all the report said it could be interpreted as bullying not that it was.If the guy was incompetent then i could see why she got frustrated and her actions could be taken as bullying.We are talking about a grown man here why did he not complain at the time i ask myself because i know i would have.If she did not know her actions were offending him why would she change.If he didnt have the balls to confront her there are procedures they can go through why didnt he do that?
The report independent till Boris got his paws on it looked at three different departments so I think it's stretching it to assume it's only about one person..
It will come out yes but it's only going to confirm that she's a bully, and feigned ignorance just doesn't cut it..
Guilty until proven innocent eh, let's just put her in the gulag and have done
Keep up, she's a bully as the report clearly says.."
Not intentionally though ... |
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over a year ago
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"I think it's an easy trap to fall into that bullying is just a firm manager and a weak employee who needs chivvying up aided by some industrial language..
Harassment and bullying are serious and debilitating for the recipient and any decent competent manager should not need to resort to such things..
Boris tried to get the independent investigation watered down which in any sphere is wrong and should be seen as such..
Are you surprised that Bojo tried to influence the report? There’s no limit to how disgusting and unethical this gvt is.
No, not at all but tbh my own opinion is there are some similar less appealing traits with many governments..
"
And within this thread.
The aggressive posting, the one sided posturing, the attempts to shut down any discussion, the forceful "I'm right you're wrong", dare I say bullying that's could easily be interpreted here.
The irony being it's those shouting the loudest at Patels behaviour.
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"I find it highly amusing that anti tories are defending a toff who was on £175,000 a year went to harvard and cambridge over a grammer school girl.The guy who got amber rudd the sack only to be found later that she had not been given the correct info by him.At the windrush inquiry the guy who said ive only been in the job a year im not an expert in the immigration system.The guy who complained at the inquiry he had not been furnished with the questions before hand.The guy who admitted to deeply regrettable and completely unacceptable mistakes over the 2012 west coast rail fiasco. Im not suprised she was frustrated.
Also why did he not complain at the time?
Who cares how much this guy was on?
What has this story or the bullying got to do with how much this guy earns it if he is toff or was a plumber?
But as always here, our Tory lovers here would decent anything done by this gvt. Have a bit of integrity for god fake. This is just wrong regardless of the circumstances of the victim.
How can you r left to have politicians to have any integrity or honesty if even people who part of the general public can’t even look at this impartially?
Ridiculous but I assume that if he’d been Abbott or Tom Eatson you’d be up in arms... i still find it funny.
Good. It’s not the toff I’m interested in. This guy is not the story. It’s bully Patel. still funny keep going i notice you only mention the toff and money nothing about his past incompetency.
If someone is incompetent or there are performance concerns then there are avenues to address those, none of which is bullying behaviour.. yes and when being bullied there are procedures too so why did he not follow them at the time and just carry on? could it be that he resigned knowing his days were numbered?
He is not the only one, his issue will be dealt with in the tribunal when if by then Boris is still refusing to make open the report more will be divulged..
Nice try deflecting Costa but it's Patel who is the bully here..
Boris's judgement is equally a part of it..Not deflection at all the report said it could be interpreted as bullying not that it was.If the guy was incompetent then i could see why she got frustrated and her actions could be taken as bullying.We are talking about a grown man here why did he not complain at the time i ask myself because i know i would have.If she did not know her actions were offending him why would she change.If he didnt have the balls to confront her there are procedures they can go through why didnt he do that?
The report independent till Boris got his paws on it looked at three different departments so I think it's stretching it to assume it's only about one person..
It will come out yes but it's only going to confirm that she's a bully, and feigned ignorance just doesn't cut it..
Guilty until proven innocent eh, let's just put her in the gulag and have done
Keep up, she's a bully as the report clearly says..
Not intentionally though ... "
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"I find it highly amusing that anti tories are defending a toff who was on £175,000 a year went to harvard and cambridge over a grammer school girl.The guy who got amber rudd the sack only to be found later that she had not been given the correct info by him.At the windrush inquiry the guy who said ive only been in the job a year im not an expert in the immigration system.The guy who complained at the inquiry he had not been furnished with the questions before hand.The guy who admitted to deeply regrettable and completely unacceptable mistakes over the 2012 west coast rail fiasco. Im not suprised she was frustrated.
Also why did he not complain at the time?
Who cares how much this guy was on?
What has this story or the bullying got to do with how much this guy earns it if he is toff or was a plumber?
But as always here, our Tory lovers here would decent anything done by this gvt. Have a bit of integrity for god fake. This is just wrong regardless of the circumstances of the victim.
How can you r left to have politicians to have any integrity or honesty if even people who part of the general public can’t even look at this impartially?
Ridiculous but I assume that if he’d been Abbott or Tom Eatson you’d be up in arms... i still find it funny.
Good. It’s not the toff I’m interested in. This guy is not the story. It’s bully Patel. still funny keep going i notice you only mention the toff and money nothing about his past incompetency.
If someone is incompetent or there are performance concerns then there are avenues to address those, none of which is bullying behaviour.. yes and when being bullied there are procedures too so why did he not follow them at the time and just carry on? could it be that he resigned knowing his days were numbered?
He is not the only one, his issue will be dealt with in the tribunal when if by then Boris is still refusing to make open the report more will be divulged..
Nice try deflecting Costa but it's Patel who is the bully here..
Boris's judgement is equally a part of it..Not deflection at all the report said it could be interpreted as bullying not that it was.If the guy was incompetent then i could see why she got frustrated and her actions could be taken as bullying.We are talking about a grown man here why did he not complain at the time i ask myself because i know i would have.If she did not know her actions were offending him why would she change.If he didnt have the balls to confront her there are procedures they can go through why didnt he do that?
The report independent till Boris got his paws on it looked at three different departments so I think it's stretching it to assume it's only about one person..
It will come out yes but it's only going to confirm that she's a bully, and feigned ignorance just doesn't cut it..
Guilty until proven innocent eh, let's just put her in the gulag and have done
Keep up, she's a bully as the report clearly says..
Not intentionally though ... good win for england but dont fancy scotlands chances tomorrow unless the french start throwing punches again."
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"I find it highly amusing that anti tories are defending a toff who was on £175,000 a year went to harvard and cambridge over a grammer school girl.The guy who got amber rudd the sack only to be found later that she had not been given the correct info by him.At the windrush inquiry the guy who said ive only been in the job a year im not an expert in the immigration system.The guy who complained at the inquiry he had not been furnished with the questions before hand.The guy who admitted to deeply regrettable and completely unacceptable mistakes over the 2012 west coast rail fiasco. Im not suprised she was frustrated.
Also why did he not complain at the time?
Who cares how much this guy was on?
What has this story or the bullying got to do with how much this guy earns it if he is toff or was a plumber?
But as always here, our Tory lovers here would decent anything done by this gvt. Have a bit of integrity for god fake. This is just wrong regardless of the circumstances of the victim.
How can you r left to have politicians to have any integrity or honesty if even people who part of the general public can’t even look at this impartially?
Ridiculous but I assume that if he’d been Abbott or Tom Eatson you’d be up in arms... i still find it funny.
Good. It’s not the toff I’m interested in. This guy is not the story. It’s bully Patel. still funny keep going i notice you only mention the toff and money nothing about his past incompetency.
If someone is incompetent or there are performance concerns then there are avenues to address those, none of which is bullying behaviour.. yes and when being bullied there are procedures too so why did he not follow them at the time and just carry on? could it be that he resigned knowing his days were numbered?
He is not the only one, his issue will be dealt with in the tribunal when if by then Boris is still refusing to make open the report more will be divulged..
Nice try deflecting Costa but it's Patel who is the bully here..
Boris's judgement is equally a part of it..Not deflection at all the report said it could be interpreted as bullying not that it was.If the guy was incompetent then i could see why she got frustrated and her actions could be taken as bullying.We are talking about a grown man here why did he not complain at the time i ask myself because i know i would have.If she did not know her actions were offending him why would she change.If he didnt have the balls to confront her there are procedures they can go through why didnt he do that?
The report independent till Boris got his paws on it looked at three different departments so I think it's stretching it to assume it's only about one person..
It will come out yes but it's only going to confirm that she's a bully, and feigned ignorance just doesn't cut it..
Guilty until proven innocent eh, let's just put her in the gulag and have done
Keep up, she's a bully as the report clearly says..
Not intentionally though ... "
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"I think it's an easy trap to fall into that bullying is just a firm manager and a weak employee who needs chivvying up aided by some industrial language..
Harassment and bullying are serious and debilitating for the recipient and any decent competent manager should not need to resort to such things..
Boris tried to get the independent investigation watered down which in any sphere is wrong and should be seen as such..
Are you surprised that Bojo tried to influence the report? There’s no limit to how disgusting and unethical this gvt is.
No, not at all but tbh my own opinion is there are some similar less appealing traits with many governments..
And within this thread.
The aggressive posting, the one sided posturing, the attempts to shut down any discussion, the forceful "I'm right you're wrong", dare I say bullying that's could easily be interpreted here.
The irony being it's those shouting the loudest at Patels behaviour.
E"
Respect your view but it's wrong in my opinion..
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"I think it's an easy trap to fall into that bullying is just a firm manager and a weak employee who needs chivvying up aided by some industrial language..
Harassment and bullying are serious and debilitating for the recipient and any decent competent manager should not need to resort to such things..
Boris tried to get the independent investigation watered down which in any sphere is wrong and should be seen as such..
Are you surprised that Bojo tried to influence the report? There’s no limit to how disgusting and unethical this gvt is.
No, not at all but tbh my own opinion is there are some similar less appealing traits with many governments..
And within this thread.
The aggressive posting, the one sided posturing, the attempts to shut down any discussion, the forceful "I'm right you're wrong", dare I say bullying that's could easily be interpreted here.
The irony being it's those shouting the loudest at Patels behaviour.
E
Respect your view but it's wrong in my opinion..
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And I respect your opinion.
I'm not saying what she did was right by the way.
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"I find it highly amusing that anti tories are defending a toff who was on £175,000 a year went to harvard and cambridge over a grammer school girl.The guy who got amber rudd the sack only to be found later that she had not been given the correct info by him.At the windrush inquiry the guy who said ive only been in the job a year im not an expert in the immigration system.The guy who complained at the inquiry he had not been furnished with the questions before hand.The guy who admitted to deeply regrettable and completely unacceptable mistakes over the 2012 west coast rail fiasco. Im not suprised she was frustrated.
Also why did he not complain at the time?
Who cares how much this guy was on?
What has this story or the bullying got to do with how much this guy earns it if he is toff or was a plumber?
But as always here, our Tory lovers here would decent anything done by this gvt. Have a bit of integrity for god fake. This is just wrong regardless of the circumstances of the victim.
How can you r left to have politicians to have any integrity or honesty if even people who part of the general public can’t even look at this impartially?
Ridiculous but I assume that if he’d been Abbott or Tom Eatson you’d be up in arms... i still find it funny.
Good. It’s not the toff I’m interested in. This guy is not the story. It’s bully Patel. still funny keep going i notice you only mention the toff and money nothing about his past incompetency.
If someone is incompetent or there are performance concerns then there are avenues to address those, none of which is bullying behaviour.. yes and when being bullied there are procedures too so why did he not follow them at the time and just carry on? could it be that he resigned knowing his days were numbered?
He is not the only one, his issue will be dealt with in the tribunal when if by then Boris is still refusing to make open the report more will be divulged..
Nice try deflecting Costa but it's Patel who is the bully here..
Boris's judgement is equally a part of it..Not deflection at all the report said it could be interpreted as bullying not that it was.If the guy was incompetent then i could see why she got frustrated and her actions could be taken as bullying.We are talking about a grown man here why did he not complain at the time i ask myself because i know i would have.If she did not know her actions were offending him why would she change.If he didnt have the balls to confront her there are procedures they can go through why didnt he do that?
The report independent till Boris got his paws on it looked at three different departments so I think it's stretching it to assume it's only about one person..
It will come out yes but it's only going to confirm that she's a bully, and feigned ignorance just doesn't cut it..
Guilty until proven innocent eh, let's just put her in the gulag and have done
Keep up, she's a bully as the report clearly says.."
Can I suggest that you read a piece written by Sarah Vine in the Mail on Sunday today regarding this, it is available online and perfectly echoes my thoughts. See what you think |
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"I find it highly amusing that anti tories are defending a toff who was on £175,000 a year went to harvard and cambridge over a grammer school girl.The guy who got amber rudd the sack only to be found later that she had not been given the correct info by him.At the windrush inquiry the guy who said ive only been in the job a year im not an expert in the immigration system.The guy who complained at the inquiry he had not been furnished with the questions before hand.The guy who admitted to deeply regrettable and completely unacceptable mistakes over the 2012 west coast rail fiasco. Im not suprised she was frustrated.
Also why did he not complain at the time?
Who cares how much this guy was on?
What has this story or the bullying got to do with how much this guy earns it if he is toff or was a plumber?
But as always here, our Tory lovers here would decent anything done by this gvt. Have a bit of integrity for god fake. This is just wrong regardless of the circumstances of the victim.
How can you r left to have politicians to have any integrity or honesty if even people who part of the general public can’t even look at this impartially?
Ridiculous but I assume that if he’d been Abbott or Tom Eatson you’d be up in arms... i still find it funny.
Good. It’s not the toff I’m interested in. This guy is not the story. It’s bully Patel. still funny keep going i notice you only mention the toff and money nothing about his past incompetency.
If someone is incompetent or there are performance concerns then there are avenues to address those, none of which is bullying behaviour.. yes and when being bullied there are procedures too so why did he not follow them at the time and just carry on? could it be that he resigned knowing his days were numbered?
He is not the only one, his issue will be dealt with in the tribunal when if by then Boris is still refusing to make open the report more will be divulged..
Nice try deflecting Costa but it's Patel who is the bully here..
Boris's judgement is equally a part of it..Not deflection at all the report said it could be interpreted as bullying not that it was.If the guy was incompetent then i could see why she got frustrated and her actions could be taken as bullying.We are talking about a grown man here why did he not complain at the time i ask myself because i know i would have.If she did not know her actions were offending him why would she change.If he didnt have the balls to confront her there are procedures they can go through why didnt he do that?
The report independent till Boris got his paws on it looked at three different departments so I think it's stretching it to assume it's only about one person..
It will come out yes but it's only going to confirm that she's a bully, and feigned ignorance just doesn't cut it..
Guilty until proven innocent eh, let's just put her in the gulag and have done
Keep up, she's a bully as the report clearly says..
Can I suggest that you read a piece written by Sarah Vine in the Mail on Sunday today regarding this, it is available online and perfectly echoes my thoughts. See what you think
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Not an entirely unbiased view.
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"I find it highly amusing that anti tories are defending a toff who was on £175,000 a year went to harvard and cambridge over a grammer school girl.The guy who got amber rudd the sack only to be found later that she had not been given the correct info by him.At the windrush inquiry the guy who said ive only been in the job a year im not an expert in the immigration system.The guy who complained at the inquiry he had not been furnished with the questions before hand.The guy who admitted to deeply regrettable and completely unacceptable mistakes over the 2012 west coast rail fiasco. Im not suprised she was frustrated.
Also why did he not complain at the time?
Who cares how much this guy was on?
What has this story or the bullying got to do with how much this guy earns it if he is toff or was a plumber?
But as always here, our Tory lovers here would decent anything done by this gvt. Have a bit of integrity for god fake. This is just wrong regardless of the circumstances of the victim.
How can you r left to have politicians to have any integrity or honesty if even people who part of the general public can’t even look at this impartially?
Ridiculous but I assume that if he’d been Abbott or Tom Eatson you’d be up in arms... i still find it funny.
Good. It’s not the toff I’m interested in. This guy is not the story. It’s bully Patel. still funny keep going i notice you only mention the toff and money nothing about his past incompetency.
If someone is incompetent or there are performance concerns then there are avenues to address those, none of which is bullying behaviour.. yes and when being bullied there are procedures too so why did he not follow them at the time and just carry on? could it be that he resigned knowing his days were numbered?
He is not the only one, his issue will be dealt with in the tribunal when if by then Boris is still refusing to make open the report more will be divulged..
Nice try deflecting Costa but it's Patel who is the bully here..
Boris's judgement is equally a part of it..Not deflection at all the report said it could be interpreted as bullying not that it was.If the guy was incompetent then i could see why she got frustrated and her actions could be taken as bullying.We are talking about a grown man here why did he not complain at the time i ask myself because i know i would have.If she did not know her actions were offending him why would she change.If he didnt have the balls to confront her there are procedures they can go through why didnt he do that?
The report independent till Boris got his paws on it looked at three different departments so I think it's stretching it to assume it's only about one person..
It will come out yes but it's only going to confirm that she's a bully, and feigned ignorance just doesn't cut it..
Guilty until proven innocent eh, let's just put her in the gulag and have done
Keep up, she's a bully as the report clearly says..
Can I suggest that you read a piece written by Sarah Vine in the Mail on Sunday today regarding this, it is available online and perfectly echoes my thoughts. See what you think "
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"I find it highly amusing that anti tories are defending a toff who was on £175,000 a year went to harvard and cambridge over a grammer school girl.The guy who got amber rudd the sack only to be found later that she had not been given the correct info by him.At the windrush inquiry the guy who said ive only been in the job a year im not an expert in the immigration system.The guy who complained at the inquiry he had not been furnished with the questions before hand.The guy who admitted to deeply regrettable and completely unacceptable mistakes over the 2012 west coast rail fiasco. Im not suprised she was frustrated.
Also why did he not complain at the time?
Who cares how much this guy was on?
What has this story or the bullying got to do with how much this guy earns it if he is toff or was a plumber?
But as always here, our Tory lovers here would decent anything done by this gvt. Have a bit of integrity for god fake. This is just wrong regardless of the circumstances of the victim.
How can you r left to have politicians to have any integrity or honesty if even people who part of the general public can’t even look at this impartially?
Ridiculous but I assume that if he’d been Abbott or Tom Eatson you’d be up in arms... i still find it funny.
Good. It’s not the toff I’m interested in. This guy is not the story. It’s bully Patel. still funny keep going i notice you only mention the toff and money nothing about his past incompetency.
If someone is incompetent or there are performance concerns then there are avenues to address those, none of which is bullying behaviour.. yes and when being bullied there are procedures too so why did he not follow them at the time and just carry on? could it be that he resigned knowing his days were numbered?
He is not the only one, his issue will be dealt with in the tribunal when if by then Boris is still refusing to make open the report more will be divulged..
Nice try deflecting Costa but it's Patel who is the bully here..
Boris's judgement is equally a part of it..Not deflection at all the report said it could be interpreted as bullying not that it was.If the guy was incompetent then i could see why she got frustrated and her actions could be taken as bullying.We are talking about a grown man here why did he not complain at the time i ask myself because i know i would have.If she did not know her actions were offending him why would she change.If he didnt have the balls to confront her there are procedures they can go through why didnt he do that?
The report independent till Boris got his paws on it looked at three different departments so I think it's stretching it to assume it's only about one person..
It will come out yes but it's only going to confirm that she's a bully, and feigned ignorance just doesn't cut it..
Guilty until proven innocent eh, let's just put her in the gulag and have done
Keep up, she's a bully as the report clearly says..
Can I suggest that you read a piece written by Sarah Vine in the Mail on Sunday today regarding this, it is available online and perfectly echoes my thoughts. See what you think
Not an entirely unbiased view.
OK, how about the article in the Observer that the report would have been even more damning, but efforts to interview the main witness were blocked? "
Possibly not considering who her husband is. But she is right about one thing at least. The one thing that people on the left hate more than a Tory is a black or Asian Tory |
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"I find it highly amusing that anti tories are defending a toff who was on £175,000 a year went to harvard and cambridge over a grammer school girl.The guy who got amber rudd the sack only to be found later that she had not been given the correct info by him.At the windrush inquiry the guy who said ive only been in the job a year im not an expert in the immigration system.The guy who complained at the inquiry he had not been furnished with the questions before hand.The guy who admitted to deeply regrettable and completely unacceptable mistakes over the 2012 west coast rail fiasco. Im not suprised she was frustrated.
Also why did he not complain at the time?
Who cares how much this guy was on?
What has this story or the bullying got to do with how much this guy earns it if he is toff or was a plumber?
But as always here, our Tory lovers here would decent anything done by this gvt. Have a bit of integrity for god fake. This is just wrong regardless of the circumstances of the victim.
How can you r left to have politicians to have any integrity or honesty if even people who part of the general public can’t even look at this impartially?
Ridiculous but I assume that if he’d been Abbott or Tom Eatson you’d be up in arms... i still find it funny.
Good. It’s not the toff I’m interested in. This guy is not the story. It’s bully Patel. still funny keep going i notice you only mention the toff and money nothing about his past incompetency.
If someone is incompetent or there are performance concerns then there are avenues to address those, none of which is bullying behaviour.. yes and when being bullied there are procedures too so why did he not follow them at the time and just carry on? could it be that he resigned knowing his days were numbered?
He is not the only one, his issue will be dealt with in the tribunal when if by then Boris is still refusing to make open the report more will be divulged..
Nice try deflecting Costa but it's Patel who is the bully here..
Boris's judgement is equally a part of it..Not deflection at all the report said it could be interpreted as bullying not that it was.If the guy was incompetent then i could see why she got frustrated and her actions could be taken as bullying.We are talking about a grown man here why did he not complain at the time i ask myself because i know i would have.If she did not know her actions were offending him why would she change.If he didnt have the balls to confront her there are procedures they can go through why didnt he do that?
The report independent till Boris got his paws on it looked at three different departments so I think it's stretching it to assume it's only about one person..
It will come out yes but it's only going to confirm that she's a bully, and feigned ignorance just doesn't cut it..
Guilty until proven innocent eh, let's just put her in the gulag and have done
Keep up, she's a bully as the report clearly says..
Can I suggest that you read a piece written by Sarah Vine in the Mail on Sunday today regarding this, it is available online and perfectly echoes my thoughts. See what you think
Not an entirely unbiased view.
OK, how about the article in the Observer that the report would have been even more damning, but efforts to interview the main witness were blocked?
Possibly not considering who her husband is. But she is right about one thing at least. The one thing that people on the left hate more than a Tory is a black or Asian Tory
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A rather sweeping statement that seems to be nothing more than your own biased opinion.
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"I find it highly amusing that anti tories are defending a toff who was on £175,000 a year went to harvard and cambridge over a grammer school girl.The guy who got amber rudd the sack only to be found later that she had not been given the correct info by him.At the windrush inquiry the guy who said ive only been in the job a year im not an expert in the immigration system.The guy who complained at the inquiry he had not been furnished with the questions before hand.The guy who admitted to deeply regrettable and completely unacceptable mistakes over the 2012 west coast rail fiasco. Im not suprised she was frustrated.
Also why did he not complain at the time?
Who cares how much this guy was on?
What has this story or the bullying got to do with how much this guy earns it if he is toff or was a plumber?
But as always here, our Tory lovers here would decent anything done by this gvt. Have a bit of integrity for god fake. This is just wrong regardless of the circumstances of the victim.
How can you r left to have politicians to have any integrity or honesty if even people who part of the general public can’t even look at this impartially?
Ridiculous but I assume that if he’d been Abbott or Tom Eatson you’d be up in arms... i still find it funny.
Good. It’s not the toff I’m interested in. This guy is not the story. It’s bully Patel. still funny keep going i notice you only mention the toff and money nothing about his past incompetency.
If someone is incompetent or there are performance concerns then there are avenues to address those, none of which is bullying behaviour.. yes and when being bullied there are procedures too so why did he not follow them at the time and just carry on? could it be that he resigned knowing his days were numbered?
He is not the only one, his issue will be dealt with in the tribunal when if by then Boris is still refusing to make open the report more will be divulged..
Nice try deflecting Costa but it's Patel who is the bully here..
Boris's judgement is equally a part of it..Not deflection at all the report said it could be interpreted as bullying not that it was.If the guy was incompetent then i could see why she got frustrated and her actions could be taken as bullying.We are talking about a grown man here why did he not complain at the time i ask myself because i know i would have.If she did not know her actions were offending him why would she change.If he didnt have the balls to confront her there are procedures they can go through why didnt he do that?
The report independent till Boris got his paws on it looked at three different departments so I think it's stretching it to assume it's only about one person..
It will come out yes but it's only going to confirm that she's a bully, and feigned ignorance just doesn't cut it..
Guilty until proven innocent eh, let's just put her in the gulag and have done
Keep up, she's a bully as the report clearly says..
Can I suggest that you read a piece written by Sarah Vine in the Mail on Sunday today regarding this, it is available online and perfectly echoes my thoughts. See what you think
Not an entirely unbiased view.
OK, how about the article in the Observer that the report would have been even more damning, but efforts to interview the main witness were blocked?
Possibly not considering who her husband is. But she is right about one thing at least. The one thing that people on the left hate more than a Tory is a black or Asian Tory "
When did she say that? It is quite ironic really as the one thing that people on right hate more than a Labour MP is a black or Asian Labour MP |
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"I find it highly amusing that anti tories are defending a toff who was on £175,000 a year went to harvard and cambridge over a grammer school girl.The guy who got amber rudd the sack only to be found later that she had not been given the correct info by him.At the windrush inquiry the guy who said ive only been in the job a year im not an expert in the immigration system.The guy who complained at the inquiry he had not been furnished with the questions before hand.The guy who admitted to deeply regrettable and completely unacceptable mistakes over the 2012 west coast rail fiasco. Im not suprised she was frustrated.
Also why did he not complain at the time?
Who cares how much this guy was on?
What has this story or the bullying got to do with how much this guy earns it if he is toff or was a plumber?
But as always here, our Tory lovers here would decent anything done by this gvt. Have a bit of integrity for god fake. This is just wrong regardless of the circumstances of the victim.
How can you r left to have politicians to have any integrity or honesty if even people who part of the general public can’t even look at this impartially?
Ridiculous but I assume that if he’d been Abbott or Tom Eatson you’d be up in arms... i still find it funny.
Good. It’s not the toff I’m interested in. This guy is not the story. It’s bully Patel. still funny keep going i notice you only mention the toff and money nothing about his past incompetency.
If someone is incompetent or there are performance concerns then there are avenues to address those, none of which is bullying behaviour.. yes and when being bullied there are procedures too so why did he not follow them at the time and just carry on? could it be that he resigned knowing his days were numbered?
He is not the only one, his issue will be dealt with in the tribunal when if by then Boris is still refusing to make open the report more will be divulged..
Nice try deflecting Costa but it's Patel who is the bully here..
Boris's judgement is equally a part of it..Not deflection at all the report said it could be interpreted as bullying not that it was.If the guy was incompetent then i could see why she got frustrated and her actions could be taken as bullying.We are talking about a grown man here why did he not complain at the time i ask myself because i know i would have.If she did not know her actions were offending him why would she change.If he didnt have the balls to confront her there are procedures they can go through why didnt he do that?
The report independent till Boris got his paws on it looked at three different departments so I think it's stretching it to assume it's only about one person..
It will come out yes but it's only going to confirm that she's a bully, and feigned ignorance just doesn't cut it..
Guilty until proven innocent eh, let's just put her in the gulag and have done
Keep up, she's a bully as the report clearly says..
Can I suggest that you read a piece written by Sarah Vine in the Mail on Sunday today regarding this, it is available online and perfectly echoes my thoughts. See what you think
She is an alt right piece of nastiness, will decline the offer ta..
Not that you needed to confirm .."
Are you suggesting that an article written by Michaels gove s wife in a paper that has embraced fascism in the past isnt balanced and objective?
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"She could bully me anytime but I'd prefer to Bull her!!!join the queue mate "
I wouldn’t stick a red hot poker up her arrogant arse. Might take the smirk off her face though |
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"She could bully me anytime but I'd prefer to Bull her!!!join the queue mate
I wouldn’t stick a red hot poker up her arrogant arse. Might take the smirk off her face though"
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Some people are being very unfair.
The poor woman has already been unfairly sacked for simply diverting foreign aid to another power and now this is the 2nd time she has had to resort to screaming and shouting,when she is merely trying to send families fleeing persecution, to an island in the middle of nowhere.
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"Involved in a contempt of court issue now
Still I think its good news that a complete moron can become home secretary.
It gives hope to simpletons everywhere."
She said this today, but to be fair, she was smirking when she said it
“The Government has consistently this year been ahead of the curve in terms of proactive decisions on coronavirus.” |
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"Involved in a contempt of court issue now
Still I think its good news that a complete moron can become home secretary.
It gives hope to simpletons everywhere.
She said this today, but to be fair, she was smirking when she said it
“The Government has consistently this year been ahead of the curve in terms of proactive decisions on coronavirus.” "
Saw that
Its almost stalinesque |
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"Involved in a contempt of court issue now
Still I think its good news that a complete moron can become home secretary.
It gives hope to simpletons everywhere.
She said this today, but to be fair, she was smirking when she said it
“The Government has consistently this year been ahead of the curve in terms of proactive decisions on coronavirus.”
Saw that
Its almost stalinesque"
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"Involved in a contempt of court issue now
Still I think its good news that a complete moron can become home secretary.
It gives hope to simpletons everywhere.
She said this today, but to be fair, she was smirking when she said it
“The Government has consistently this year been ahead of the curve in terms of proactive decisions on coronavirus.” "
Thank fuck for that..
Just imagine if they had over promised, dithered and spunked hundreds of million on duff PPE..
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