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Just for a bit of balance
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2020/nov/18/tory-mp-will-face-no-further-action-for-anglo-muslim-relations-tweet
The mp in question also has previous
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/trump-protest-uk-visit-latest-michael-fabricant-islamophobic-tweet-sadiq-khan-pig-a8445456.html%3famp
I'm sure the usual suspects will Express their disgust at the gmnt over this.
After all they are so concerned about racism in political parties
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A thread specifically about Islamaphobia in the gmnt, and within 5 posts the labour party are dragged into it.
Its refreshing to know that the anti racists on here are only concerned When it's in the labour party. |
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Chap i follow on Twitter Owen Jones calls this shit out on a regular basis. Surprisingly he was also calling out islamiphobia and transphobia in the Labour Party as well this week.
It’s sad it’s almost par for the course from the Torys.
Kick them all out and reset these stale politicos.
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"Chap i follow on Twitter Owen Jones calls this shit out on a regular basis. Surprisingly he was also calling out islamiphobia and transphobia in the Labour Party as well this week.
It’s sad it’s almost par for the course from the Torys.
Kick them all out and reset these stale politicos.
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Owen jones say no more |
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"Chap i follow on Twitter Owen Jones calls this shit out on a regular basis. Surprisingly he was also calling out islamiphobia and transphobia in the Labour Party as well this week.
It’s sad it’s almost par for the course from the Torys.
Kick them all out and reset these stale politicos.
Revolution says I "
I quite like owen Jones
Quite a few on The left dont like him but he is always spot on
Check out the clip of him arguing with andrew Neill. |
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"Chap i follow on Twitter Owen Jones calls this shit out on a regular basis. Surprisingly he was also calling out islamiphobia and transphobia in the Labour Party as well this week.
It’s sad it’s almost par for the course from the Torys.
Kick them all out and reset these stale politicos.
Revolution says I Owen jones say no more "
When Owen Jones calls it out in the Labour Party it speaks volumes to be honest.
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"A thread specifically about Islamaphobia in the gmnt, and within 5 posts the labour party are dragged into it.
Its refreshing to know that the anti racists on here are only concerned When it's in the labour party."
Hi . I think you will find that the current cabinet are the most diverse ever . An excellent illustration of diversity in action . At least the current government recognises that more opinions matter than those of the white middle class full paid up members of the woke brigade who reside in London . |
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"A thread specifically about Islamaphobia in the gmnt, and within 5 posts the labour party are dragged into it.
Its refreshing to know that the anti racists on here are only concerned When it's in the labour party. Hi . I think you will find that the current cabinet are the most diverse ever . An excellent illustration of diversity in action . At least the current government recognises that more opinions matter than those of the white middle class full paid up members of the woke brigade who reside in London . "
You lost me at woke |
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"The Tories have always been a very proud racist party. yeah only have to look at the tory home secretary and chancellor to see that.  "
"See? we're inclusive!"
I guess we should ignore the treatment of the Windrush generation and the "hostile environment" against immigrants because a few members of the cabinet help tick a box.
This is why racism is rife in politics and society. This is directed at both major parties who's conduct has been shameful. Statements like the one above, acting like there isn't a problem will always ensure that the problem isn't dealt with properly. It's like minorities should be appeased simply because of who's on the front bench. That doesn't change things if you're a normal member of the public experiencing racism on a day to day basis.
Also, Baroness Warsi was very vocal about Islamophobia within the Conservative party and very little was done. So whilst I'm not condoning Labour's current handling of antisemitism or racism directed at MPs like Diane Abbott and Dawn Butler from within, spare me the crap on how the Conservative party are getting things right. The amount of racism reviews carried out under this government which haven't been actioned properly is embarrassing.
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By *ackal1Couple
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"The Tories have always been a very proud racist party. yeah only have to look at the tory home secretary and chancellor to see that.
"See? we're inclusive!"
I guess we should ignore the treatment of the Windrush generation and the "hostile environment" against immigrants because a few members of the cabinet help tick a box.
This is why racism is rife in politics and society. This is directed at both major parties who's conduct has been shameful. Statements like the one above, acting like there isn't a problem will always ensure that the problem isn't dealt with properly. It's like minorities should be appeased simply because of who's on the front bench. That doesn't change things if you're a normal member of the public experiencing racism on a day to day basis.
Also, Baroness Warsi was very vocal about Islamophobia within the Conservative party and very little was done. So whilst I'm not condoning Labour's current handling of antisemitism or racism directed at MPs like Diane Abbott and Dawn Butler from within, spare me the crap on how the Conservative party are getting things right. The amount of racism reviews carried out under this government which haven't been actioned properly is embarrassing.
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"Just for a bit of balance
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2020/nov/18/tory-mp-will-face-no-further-action-for-anglo-muslim-relations-tweet
The mp in question also has previous
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/trump-protest-uk-visit-latest-michael-fabricant-islamophobic-tweet-sadiq-khan-pig-a8445456.html%3famp
I'm sure the usual suspects will Express their disgust at the gmnt over this.
After all they are so concerned about racism in political parties
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Wow justification for anti-Semitism amazing nothing like al little balance ehh?
So for balance prey tell how many Jews have bombed, stabbed or run over people in the UK in the last 20 years?
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"Just for a bit of balance
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2020/nov/18/tory-mp-will-face-no-further-action-for-anglo-muslim-relations-tweet
The mp in question also has previous
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/trump-protest-uk-visit-latest-michael-fabricant-islamophobic-tweet-sadiq-khan-pig-a8445456.html%3famp
I'm sure the usual suspects will Express their disgust at the gmnt over this.
After all they are so concerned about racism in political parties
Wow justification for anti-Semitism amazing nothing like al little balance ehh?
So for balance prey tell how many Jews have bombed, stabbed or run over people in the UK in the last 20 years?
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Thank you for you and the others for proving my point so conclusively
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"The Tories have always been a very proud racist party. yeah only have to look at the tory home secretary and chancellor to see that.
"See? we're inclusive!"
I guess we should ignore the treatment of the Windrush generation and the "hostile environment" against immigrants because a few members of the cabinet help tick a box.
This is why racism is rife in politics and society. This is directed at both major parties who's conduct has been shameful. Statements like the one above, acting like there isn't a problem will always ensure that the problem isn't dealt with properly. It's like minorities should be appeased simply because of who's on the front bench. That doesn't change things if you're a normal member of the public experiencing racism on a day to day basis.
Also, Baroness Warsi was very vocal about Islamophobia within the Conservative party and very little was done. So whilst I'm not condoning Labour's current handling of antisemitism or racism directed at MPs like Diane Abbott and Dawn Butler from within, spare me the crap on how the Conservative party are getting things right. The amount of racism reviews carried out under this government which haven't been actioned properly is embarrassing.
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I posted a link of a Tory mp twice involved in making Islamaphobic slurs.
Not one of their fan club has condemned this and practically every one has involved the labour party,in a thread specifically about the conservative party.
Says it all really. |
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"Just for a bit of balance
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2020/nov/18/tory-mp-will-face-no-further-action-for-anglo-muslim-relations-tweet
The mp in question also has previous
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/trump-protest-uk-visit-latest-michael-fabricant-islamophobic-tweet-sadiq-khan-pig-a8445456.html%3famp
I'm sure the usual suspects will Express their disgust at the gmnt over this.
After all they are so concerned about racism in political parties
Wow justification for anti-Semitism amazing nothing like al little balance ehh?
So for balance prey tell how many Jews have bombed, stabbed or run over people in the UK in the last 20 years?
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You appear to be trying to make a point about terrorism when the thread is about racism. Rather proving the point of the thread. |
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"The Tories have always been a very proud racist party. yeah only have to look at the tory home secretary and chancellor to see that.
"See? we're inclusive!"
I guess we should ignore the treatment of the Windrush generation and the "hostile environment" against immigrants because a few members of the cabinet help tick a box.
This is why racism is rife in politics and society. This is directed at both major parties who's conduct has been shameful. Statements like the one above, acting like there isn't a problem will always ensure that the problem isn't dealt with properly. It's like minorities should be appeased simply because of who's on the front bench. That doesn't change things if you're a normal member of the public experiencing racism on a day to day basis.
Also, Baroness Warsi was very vocal about Islamophobia within the Conservative party and very little was done. So whilst I'm not condoning Labour's current handling of antisemitism or racism directed at MPs like Diane Abbott and Dawn Butler from within, spare me the crap on how the Conservative party are getting things right. The amount of racism reviews carried out under this government which haven't been actioned properly is embarrassing.
I posted a link of a Tory mp twice involved in making Islamaphobic slurs.
Not one of their fan club has condemned this and practically every one has involved the labour party,in a thread specifically about the conservative party.
Says it all really."
Seems like a cross party issue. Disgusting.
Clear them all out. |
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Our political parties are just groupings of the people in this country.
It's not a problem of the parties, it's a problem of our society.
Statistics show that racial abuse and attacks have increased in recent years.
That is a failing in leadership, policy, and education. |
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Tories and their supporters don't hold their own party to the same standard as they hold others.
They will always point the finger at others.
What also doesn't help are 'neutrals' who go on about 'both sides'. This is just diluting the issue. |
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"Tories and their supporters don't hold their own party to the same standard as they hold others.
They will always point the finger at others.
What also doesn't help are 'neutrals' who go on about 'both sides'. This is just diluting the issue."
“There are some very fine people on both sides”
- Donald Trump |
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"Tories and their supporters don't hold their own party to the same standard as they hold others.
They will always point the finger at others.
What also doesn't help are 'neutrals' who go on about 'both sides'. This is just diluting the issue."
The problem is that the issue has been weaponised by both sides whilst at the same time doing very little about it.
As someone mentioned earlier, political parties are just groupings of people with similar yet different views.
But as I highlighted earlier, the conservatives are definitely not the champions of racial equality...or any equality for that matter. |
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"Tories and their supporters don't hold their own party to the same standard as they hold others.
They will always point the finger at others.
What also doesn't help are 'neutrals' who go on about 'both sides'. This is just diluting the issue."
They couldn't give a Toss about racism.
Its simply a tool used to beat the labour party.
This thread bears it out completely.
When the report into the labour party was announced they all piled in,yet have stayed strangely quiet on this issue. |
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"Tories and their supporters don't hold their own party to the same standard as they hold others.
They will always point the finger at others.
What also doesn't help are 'neutrals' who go on about 'both sides'. This is just diluting the issue.
They couldn't give a Toss about racism.
Its simply a tool used to beat the labour party.
This thread bears it out completely.
When the report into the labour party was announced they all piled in,yet have stayed strangely quiet on this issue."
Let’s see if there is a pile on when and if (a big if) the bullying report comes out into Priti Patel. Your point maybe proved then
The thing is and I hate to be that “neutral” guy but there is so much filth around the parties at the moment it’s so easy to descend into whataboutery. For every example there is a counter example.
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
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"The Tories have always been a very proud racist party. yeah only have to look at the tory home secretary and chancellor to see that.
"See? we're inclusive!"
I guess we should ignore the treatment of the Windrush generation and the "hostile environment" against immigrants because a few members of the cabinet help tick a box.
This is why racism is rife in politics and society. This is directed at both major parties who's conduct has been shameful. Statements like the one above, acting like there isn't a problem will always ensure that the problem isn't dealt with properly. It's like minorities should be appeased simply because of who's on the front bench. That doesn't change things if you're a normal member of the public experiencing racism on a day to day basis.
Also, Baroness Warsi was very vocal about Islamophobia within the Conservative party and very little was done. So whilst I'm not condoning Labour's current handling of antisemitism or racism directed at MPs like Diane Abbott and Dawn Butler from within, spare me the crap on how the Conservative party are getting things right. The amount of racism reviews carried out under this government which haven't been actioned properly is embarrassing.
I posted a link of a Tory mp twice involved in making Islamaphobic slurs.
Not one of their fan club has condemned this and practically every one has involved the labour party,in a thread specifically about the conservative party.
Says it all really."
I condemned it totally last time, and totally condemn this time.
Society contains many bad people, they find their way into political parties and spread tbeir poison.
Having a finger pointing contest on who has the most racists, will not sort the problem. |
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"The Tories have always been a very proud racist party. yeah only have to look at the tory home secretary and chancellor to see that.
"See? we're inclusive!"
I guess we should ignore the treatment of the Windrush generation and the "hostile environment" against immigrants because a few members of the cabinet help tick a box.
This is why racism is rife in politics and society. This is directed at both major parties who's conduct has been shameful. Statements like the one above, acting like there isn't a problem will always ensure that the problem isn't dealt with properly. It's like minorities should be appeased simply because of who's on the front bench. That doesn't change things if you're a normal member of the public experiencing racism on a day to day basis.
Also, Baroness Warsi was very vocal about Islamophobia within the Conservative party and very little was done. So whilst I'm not condoning Labour's current handling of antisemitism or racism directed at MPs like Diane Abbott and Dawn Butler from within, spare me the crap on how the Conservative party are getting things right. The amount of racism reviews carried out under this government which haven't been actioned properly is embarrassing.
I posted a link of a Tory mp twice involved in making Islamaphobic slurs.
Not one of their fan club has condemned this and practically every one has involved the labour party,in a thread specifically about the conservative party.
Says it all really.
I condemned it totally last time, and totally condemn this time.
Society contains many bad people, they find their way into political parties and spread tbeir poison.
Having a finger pointing contest on who has the most racists, will not sort the problem. "
And neither does labelling one party as 'full of racists 'whilst condoning widespread racism in another. |
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"Tories and their supporters don't hold their own party to the same standard as they hold others.
They will always point the finger at others.
What also doesn't help are 'neutrals' who go on about 'both sides'. This is just diluting the issue.
They couldn't give a Toss about racism.
Its simply a tool used to beat the labour party.
This thread bears it out completely.
When the report into the labour party was announced they all piled in,yet have stayed strangely quiet on this issue.
Let’s see if there is a pile on when and if (a big if) the bullying report comes out into Priti Patel. Your point maybe proved then
The thing is and I hate to be that “neutral” guy but there is so much filth around the parties at the moment it’s so easy to descend into whataboutery. For every example there is a counter example.
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The patel thing is nothing to do with racism.
The mp above said a racist tweet and not one of the posters who savaged corbyn have said 1 solitary thing against him.
The hypocrisy is sickening and it proves they couldnt give a toss about racism. |
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"The Tories have always been a very proud racist party. yeah only have to look at the tory home secretary and chancellor to see that.
"See? we're inclusive!"
I guess we should ignore the treatment of the Windrush generation and the "hostile environment" against immigrants because a few members of the cabinet help tick a box.
This is why racism is rife in politics and society. This is directed at both major parties who's conduct has been shameful. Statements like the one above, acting like there isn't a problem will always ensure that the problem isn't dealt with properly. It's like minorities should be appeased simply because of who's on the front bench. That doesn't change things if you're a normal member of the public experiencing racism on a day to day basis.
Also, Baroness Warsi was very vocal about Islamophobia within the Conservative party and very little was done. So whilst I'm not condoning Labour's current handling of antisemitism or racism directed at MPs like Diane Abbott and Dawn Butler from within, spare me the crap on how the Conservative party are getting things right. The amount of racism reviews carried out under this government which haven't been actioned properly is embarrassing.
I posted a link of a Tory mp twice involved in making Islamaphobic slurs.
Not one of their fan club has condemned this and practically every one has involved the labour party,in a thread specifically about the conservative party.
Says it all really.
I condemned it totally last time, and totally condemn this time.
Society contains many bad people, they find their way into political parties and spread tbeir poison.
Having a finger pointing contest on who has the most racists, will not sort the problem. "
Its the thing a deep rooted racist does its called deflection some people have zero respect for other people sadly. |
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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago
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"Just for a bit of balance
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2020/nov/18/tory-mp-will-face-no-further-action-for-anglo-muslim-relations-tweet
The mp in question also has previous
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/trump-protest-uk-visit-latest-michael-fabricant-islamophobic-tweet-sadiq-khan-pig-a8445456.html%3famp
I'm sure the usual suspects will Express their disgust at the gmnt over this.
After all they are so concerned about racism in political parties
Wow justification for anti-Semitism amazing nothing like al little balance ehh?
So for balance prey tell how many Jews have bombed, stabbed or run over people in the UK in the last 20 years?
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No but they have in Palestine , Gaza, Syria, Iran. And they’ve funded the American to proxy bomb as they are America’s Bankers. .
Not defending Muslim extremism but Israel is equally as fucked up! We just dress Israel up a better than their neighbours because they are pro the west.
If we hadn’t invaded Iraq and Libya there would be a lot less fundamentalists.
Israel is taking land by force off their neighbours. Not sure when that’s suddenly become ok! The UN still has it as an invasion.
We support someone who wants to suppress their neighbours and complain when they attempt to fight back.
Im not defending the bombing innocent people in the U.K. as that’s horrific in anyone’s mind., but to say it’s not our fault and we are victims come on our bombs kill a lot more innocents in those countries. Ask the RAF and USAF.
Blair and Bush were Billy big Bollocks and the poor bastards who live there and here who never picked up a gun die. Criminal.
Afghanistan and the Taliban crack on and wipe the evil bastards out for the way they treat their own people but we fuelled ISIS.
Iraq had education for all and a semblance of free health care too.
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"Tories and their supporters don't hold their own party to the same standard as they hold others.
They will always point the finger at others.
What also doesn't help are 'neutrals' who go on about 'both sides'. This is just diluting the issue.
They couldn't give a Toss about racism.
Its simply a tool used to beat the labour party.
This thread bears it out completely.
When the report into the labour party was announced they all piled in,yet have stayed strangely quiet on this issue.
Let’s see if there is a pile on when and if (a big if) the bullying report comes out into Priti Patel. Your point maybe proved then
The thing is and I hate to be that “neutral” guy but there is so much filth around the parties at the moment it’s so easy to descend into whataboutery. For every example there is a counter example.
The patel thing is nothing to do with racism.
The mp above said a racist tweet and not one of the posters who savaged corbyn have said 1 solitary thing against him.
The hypocrisy is sickening and it proves they couldnt give a toss about racism. "
Calm down it was more a reflection that you think people don’t criticise the Torys. |
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"Tories and their supporters don't hold their own party to the same standard as they hold others.
They will always point the finger at others.
What also doesn't help are 'neutrals' who go on about 'both sides'. This is just diluting the issue.
They couldn't give a Toss about racism.
Its simply a tool used to beat the labour party.
This thread bears it out completely.
When the report into the labour party was announced they all piled in,yet have stayed strangely quiet on this issue.
Let’s see if there is a pile on when and if (a big if) the bullying report comes out into Priti Patel. Your point maybe proved then
The thing is and I hate to be that “neutral” guy but there is so much filth around the parties at the moment it’s so easy to descend into whataboutery. For every example there is a counter example.
The patel thing is nothing to do with racism.
The mp above said a racist tweet and not one of the posters who savaged corbyn have said 1 solitary thing against him.
The hypocrisy is sickening and it proves they couldnt give a toss about racism.
Calm down it was more a reflection that you think people don’t criticise the Torys. "
I think this thread has proved it. |
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Congratulations guys, I've just read that this thread has been nominated for a Golden Fabby 2020 award in the "Whataboutery" category I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you, and if you win, it will be the first thing connected with Labour that has won anything for many years.
Here's some reading for you all.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/aug/13/hierarchy-of-racism-fears-threaten-starmers-hopes-of-labour-unity
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/labour-leaks-report-antisemitism-racism-diane-abbott-butler-a9468521.html |
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"Just for a bit of balance
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2020/nov/18/tory-mp-will-face-no-further-action-for-anglo-muslim-relations-tweet
The mp in question also has previous
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/trump-protest-uk-visit-latest-michael-fabricant-islamophobic-tweet-sadiq-khan-pig-a8445456.html%3famp
I'm sure the usual suspects will Express their disgust at the gmnt over this.
After all they are so concerned about racism in political parties
Wow justification for anti-Semitism amazing nothing like al little balance ehh?
So for balance prey tell how many Jews have bombed, stabbed or run over people in the UK in the last 20 years?
No but they have in Palestine , Gaza, Syria, Iran. And they’ve funded the American to proxy bomb as they are America’s Bankers. .
Not defending Muslim extremism but Israel is equally as fucked up! We just dress Israel up a better than their neighbours because they are pro the west.
If we hadn’t invaded Iraq and Libya there would be a lot less fundamentalists.
Israel is taking land by force off their neighbours. Not sure when that’s suddenly become ok! The UN still has it as an invasion.
We support someone who wants to suppress their neighbours and complain when they attempt to fight back.
Im not defending the bombing innocent people in the U.K. as that’s horrific in anyone’s mind., but to say it’s not our fault and we are victims come on our bombs kill a lot more innocents in those countries. Ask the RAF and USAF.
Blair and Bush were Billy big Bollocks and the poor bastards who live there and here who never picked up a gun die. Criminal.
Afghanistan and the Taliban crack on and wipe the evil bastards out for the way they treat their own people but we fuelled ISIS.
Iraq had education for all and a semblance of free health care too.
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With all due respect he only mentioned terrorism to stray away from the original topic. |
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"Congratulations guys, I've just read that this thread has been nominated for a Golden Fabby 2020 award in the "Whataboutery" category I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you, and if you win, it will be the first thing connected with Labour that has won anything for many years.
Here's some reading for you all.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/aug/13/hierarchy-of-racism-fears-threaten-starmers-hopes-of-labour-unity
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/labour-leaks-report-antisemitism-racism-diane-abbott-butler-a9468521.html"
Another one proving my point just brilliantly
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"Congratulations guys, I've just read that this thread has been nominated for a Golden Fabby 2020 award in the "Whataboutery" category I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you, and if you win, it will be the first thing connected with Labour that has won anything for many years.
Here's some reading for you all.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/aug/13/hierarchy-of-racism-fears-threaten-starmers-hopes-of-labour-unity
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/labour-leaks-report-antisemitism-racism-diane-abbott-butler-a9468521.html"
I think everyone on the prannet new this already but you won't convince some they have racism deeply embedded in there psyche.
There is no room for racism in politics though. |
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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago
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Personally I think there is racism in both parties it’s just the Tories are better at deflecting the detail.
Pretty Patel is just a nasty piece of work from what I see but not sure she’s racist.
Corbyn made the mistake of not shouting anti semitism down loud enough so the papers had a field day as the Tories kept bringing it into the light.
I’m sure if you dig deep enough there are soft racists in the leadership of both parties. NO I CAN’T PROVE IT AND NO I CANT SHOW YOU EVIDENCE.
The Tories party is awash with blue rinse brigade white 60+ year olds who want to go back the 60’s and stop immigration. Labour strongholds in the north will have similar older generations.
What bothers me is this is finger pointing for effect rather than questioning what’s wrong across the political parties and subsequently the country’s attitude to race. This shouldn’t be point scoring as it’s fundamental to our society. American blacks in the WW2 were amazed to see how well they were treated here 75years ago before going back to segregation. Have we moved on at all? Looking at all this I’m not sure.
Bring back Charles Kennedy. He was a d*unk but didn’t blame everyone else for having a drink to deflect attention from himself.
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"Personally I think there is racism in both parties it’s just the Tories are better at deflecting the detail.
Pretty Patel is just a nasty piece of work from what I see but not sure she’s racist.
Corbyn made the mistake of not shouting anti semitism down loud enough so the papers had a field day as the Tories kept bringing it into the light.
I’m sure if you dig deep enough there are soft racists in the leadership of both parties. NO I CAN’T PROVE IT AND NO I CANT SHOW YOU EVIDENCE.
The Tories party is awash with blue rinse brigade white 60+ year olds who want to go back the 60’s and stop immigration. Labour strongholds in the north will have similar older generations.
What bothers me is this is finger pointing for effect rather than questioning what’s wrong across the political parties and subsequently the country’s attitude to race. This shouldn’t be point scoring as it’s fundamental to our society. American blacks in the WW2 were amazed to see how well they were treated here 75years ago before going back to segregation. Have we moved on at all? Looking at all this I’m not sure.
Bring back Charles Kennedy. He was a d*unk but didn’t blame everyone else for having a drink to deflect attention from himself.
"
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"Personally I think there is racism in both parties it’s just the Tories are better at deflecting the detail.
Pretty Patel is just a nasty piece of work from what I see but not sure she’s racist.
Corbyn made the mistake of not shouting anti semitism down loud enough so the papers had a field day as the Tories kept bringing it into the light.
I’m sure if you dig deep enough there are soft racists in the leadership of both parties. NO I CAN’T PROVE IT AND NO I CANT SHOW YOU EVIDENCE.
The Tories party is awash with blue rinse brigade white 60+ year olds who want to go back the 60’s and stop immigration. Labour strongholds in the north will have similar older generations.
What bothers me is this is finger pointing for effect rather than questioning what’s wrong across the political parties and subsequently the country’s attitude to race. This shouldn’t be point scoring as it’s fundamental to our society. American blacks in the WW2 were amazed to see how well they were treated here 75years ago before going back to segregation. Have we moved on at all? Looking at all this I’m not sure.
Bring back Charles Kennedy. He was a d*unk but didn’t blame everyone else for having a drink to deflect attention from himself.
"
I think you are spot on there
I think if there is racism there is more likely to found in the labour heartlands.
I was reading something yesterday which not 1 mainstream outlet published an article about corbyn and anti semitism until he became leader.
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"Personally I think there is racism in both parties it’s just the Tories are better at deflecting the detail.
Pretty Patel is just a nasty piece of work from what I see but not sure she’s racist.
Corbyn made the mistake of not shouting anti semitism down loud enough so the papers had a field day as the Tories kept bringing it into the light.
I’m sure if you dig deep enough there are soft racists in the leadership of both parties. NO I CAN’T PROVE IT AND NO I CANT SHOW YOU EVIDENCE.
The Tories party is awash with blue rinse brigade white 60+ year olds who want to go back the 60’s and stop immigration. Labour strongholds in the north will have similar older generations.
What bothers me is this is finger pointing for effect rather than questioning what’s wrong across the political parties and subsequently the country’s attitude to race. This shouldn’t be point scoring as it’s fundamental to our society. American blacks in the WW2 were amazed to see how well they were treated here 75years ago before going back to segregation. Have we moved on at all? Looking at all this I’m not sure.
Bring back Charles Kennedy. He was a d*unk but didn’t blame everyone else for having a drink to deflect attention from himself.
I think the facts are there are racists everywhere both in and out of politics and following on with facts only one leader or ex leader has been investigated over it and found complicit. "
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"Personally I think there is racism in both parties it’s just the Tories are better at deflecting the detail.
Pretty Patel is just a nasty piece of work from what I see but not sure she’s racist.
Corbyn made the mistake of not shouting anti semitism down loud enough so the papers had a field day as the Tories kept bringing it into the light.
I’m sure if you dig deep enough there are soft racists in the leadership of both parties. NO I CAN’T PROVE IT AND NO I CANT SHOW YOU EVIDENCE.
The Tories party is awash with blue rinse brigade white 60+ year olds who want to go back the 60’s and stop immigration. Labour strongholds in the north will have similar older generations.
What bothers me is this is finger pointing for effect rather than questioning what’s wrong across the political parties and subsequently the country’s attitude to race. This shouldn’t be point scoring as it’s fundamental to our society. American blacks in the WW2 were amazed to see how well they were treated here 75years ago before going back to segregation. Have we moved on at all? Looking at all this I’m not sure.
Bring back Charles Kennedy. He was a d*unk but didn’t blame everyone else for having a drink to deflect attention from himself.
I think the facts are there are racists everywhere both in and out of politics and following on with facts only one leader or ex leader has been investigated over it and found complicit.
No he wasn't."
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"Personally I think there is racism in both parties it’s just the Tories are better at deflecting the detail.
Pretty Patel is just a nasty piece of work from what I see but not sure she’s racist.
Corbyn made the mistake of not shouting anti semitism down loud enough so the papers had a field day as the Tories kept bringing it into the light.
I’m sure if you dig deep enough there are soft racists in the leadership of both parties. NO I CAN’T PROVE IT AND NO I CANT SHOW YOU EVIDENCE.
The Tories party is awash with blue rinse brigade white 60+ year olds who want to go back the 60’s and stop immigration. Labour strongholds in the north will have similar older generations.
What bothers me is this is finger pointing for effect rather than questioning what’s wrong across the political parties and subsequently the country’s attitude to race. This shouldn’t be point scoring as it’s fundamental to our society. American blacks in the WW2 were amazed to see how well they were treated here 75years ago before going back to segregation. Have we moved on at all? Looking at all this I’m not sure.
Bring back Charles Kennedy. He was a d*unk but didn’t blame everyone else for having a drink to deflect attention from himself.
I think the facts are there are racists everywhere both in and out of politics and following on with facts only one leader or ex leader has been investigated over it and found complicit.
No he wasn't.
YES he was read the report! You really are full of lies and hate arn't you he as suspended on that report and his b/s and not being prepared to apologise. Man get some class and stop lying."
Why has he been reinstated?
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"Personally I think there is racism in both parties it’s just the Tories are better at deflecting the detail.
Pretty Patel is just a nasty piece of work from what I see but not sure she’s racist.
Corbyn made the mistake of not shouting anti semitism down loud enough so the papers had a field day as the Tories kept bringing it into the light.
I’m sure if you dig deep enough there are soft racists in the leadership of both parties. NO I CAN’T PROVE IT AND NO I CANT SHOW YOU EVIDENCE.
The Tories party is awash with blue rinse brigade white 60+ year olds who want to go back the 60’s and stop immigration. Labour strongholds in the north will have similar older generations.
What bothers me is this is finger pointing for effect rather than questioning what’s wrong across the political parties and subsequently the country’s attitude to race. This shouldn’t be point scoring as it’s fundamental to our society. American blacks in the WW2 were amazed to see how well they were treated here 75years ago before going back to segregation. Have we moved on at all? Looking at all this I’m not sure.
Bring back Charles Kennedy. He was a d*unk but didn’t blame everyone else for having a drink to deflect attention from himself.
I think the facts are there are racists everywhere both in and out of politics and following on with facts only one leader or ex leader has been investigated over it and found complicit.
No he wasn't.
YES he was read the report! You really are full of lies and hate arn't you he as suspended on that report and his b/s and not being prepared to apologise. Man get some class and stop lying.
Why has he been reinstated?
"
Are you denying the facts on why he was suspended? Get a grip man accept the truth for once. |
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"Personally I think there is racism in both parties it’s just the Tories are better at deflecting the detail.
Pretty Patel is just a nasty piece of work from what I see but not sure she’s racist.
Corbyn made the mistake of not shouting anti semitism down loud enough so the papers had a field day as the Tories kept bringing it into the light.
I’m sure if you dig deep enough there are soft racists in the leadership of both parties. NO I CAN’T PROVE IT AND NO I CANT SHOW YOU EVIDENCE.
The Tories party is awash with blue rinse brigade white 60+ year olds who want to go back the 60’s and stop immigration. Labour strongholds in the north will have similar older generations.
What bothers me is this is finger pointing for effect rather than questioning what’s wrong across the political parties and subsequently the country’s attitude to race. This shouldn’t be point scoring as it’s fundamental to our society. American blacks in the WW2 were amazed to see how well they were treated here 75years ago before going back to segregation. Have we moved on at all? Looking at all this I’m not sure.
Bring back Charles Kennedy. He was a d*unk but didn’t blame everyone else for having a drink to deflect attention from himself.
I think the facts are there are racists everywhere both in and out of politics and following on with facts only one leader or ex leader has been investigated over it and found complicit.
No he wasn't.
YES he was read the report! You really are full of lies and hate arn't you he as suspended on that report and his b/s and not being prepared to apologise. Man get some class and stop lying.
Why has he been reinstated?
Are you denying the facts on why he was suspended? Get a grip man accept the truth for once. "
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"Personally I think there is racism in both parties it’s just the Tories are better at deflecting the detail.
Pretty Patel is just a nasty piece of work from what I see but not sure she’s racist.
Corbyn made the mistake of not shouting anti semitism down loud enough so the papers had a field day as the Tories kept bringing it into the light.
I’m sure if you dig deep enough there are soft racists in the leadership of both parties. NO I CAN’T PROVE IT AND NO I CANT SHOW YOU EVIDENCE.
The Tories party is awash with blue rinse brigade white 60+ year olds who want to go back the 60’s and stop immigration. Labour strongholds in the north will have similar older generations.
What bothers me is this is finger pointing for effect rather than questioning what’s wrong across the political parties and subsequently the country’s attitude to race. This shouldn’t be point scoring as it’s fundamental to our society. American blacks in the WW2 were amazed to see how well they were treated here 75years ago before going back to segregation. Have we moved on at all? Looking at all this I’m not sure.
Bring back Charles Kennedy. He was a d*unk but didn’t blame everyone else for having a drink to deflect attention from himself.
I think the facts are there are racists everywhere both in and out of politics and following on with facts only one leader or ex leader has been investigated over it and found complicit.
No he wasn't.
YES he was read the report! You really are full of lies and hate arn't you he as suspended on that report and his b/s and not being prepared to apologise. Man get some class and stop lying.
Why has he been reinstated?
Are you denying the facts on why he was suspended? Get a grip man accept the truth for once. "
He was suspended for what he said about the report, not it's contents.
And after due process was reinstated. |
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"Personally I think there is racism in both parties it’s just the Tories are better at deflecting the detail.
Pretty Patel is just a nasty piece of work from what I see but not sure she’s racist.
Corbyn made the mistake of not shouting anti semitism down loud enough so the papers had a field day as the Tories kept bringing it into the light.
I’m sure if you dig deep enough there are soft racists in the leadership of both parties. NO I CAN’T PROVE IT AND NO I CANT SHOW YOU EVIDENCE.
The Tories party is awash with blue rinse brigade white 60+ year olds who want to go back the 60’s and stop immigration. Labour strongholds in the north will have similar older generations.
What bothers me is this is finger pointing for effect rather than questioning what’s wrong across the political parties and subsequently the country’s attitude to race. This shouldn’t be point scoring as it’s fundamental to our society. American blacks in the WW2 were amazed to see how well they were treated here 75years ago before going back to segregation. Have we moved on at all? Looking at all this I’m not sure.
Bring back Charles Kennedy. He was a d*unk but didn’t blame everyone else for having a drink to deflect attention from himself.
I think the facts are there are racists everywhere both in and out of politics and following on with facts only one leader or ex leader has been investigated over it and found complicit.
No he wasn't.
YES he was read the report! You really are full of lies and hate arn't you he as suspended on that report and his b/s and not being prepared to apologise. Man get some class and stop lying.
Why has he been reinstated?
Are you denying the facts on why he was suspended? Get a grip man accept the truth for once.
He was suspended for what he said about the report, not it's contents.
And after due process was reinstated. "
So is he back in the party as he was before then even if he still hates the Jews? |
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"Personally I think there is racism in both parties it’s just the Tories are better at deflecting the detail.
Pretty Patel is just a nasty piece of work from what I see but not sure she’s racist.
Corbyn made the mistake of not shouting anti semitism down loud enough so the papers had a field day as the Tories kept bringing it into the light.
I’m sure if you dig deep enough there are soft racists in the leadership of both parties. NO I CAN’T PROVE IT AND NO I CANT SHOW YOU EVIDENCE.
The Tories party is awash with blue rinse brigade white 60+ year olds who want to go back the 60’s and stop immigration. Labour strongholds in the north will have similar older generations.
What bothers me is this is finger pointing for effect rather than questioning what’s wrong across the political parties and subsequently the country’s attitude to race. This shouldn’t be point scoring as it’s fundamental to our society. American blacks in the WW2 were amazed to see how well they were treated here 75years ago before going back to segregation. Have we moved on at all? Looking at all this I’m not sure.
Bring back Charles Kennedy. He was a d*unk but didn’t blame everyone else for having a drink to deflect attention from himself.
I think the facts are there are racists everywhere both in and out of politics and following on with facts only one leader or ex leader has been investigated over it and found complicit.
No he wasn't.
YES he was read the report! You really are full of lies and hate arn't you he as suspended on that report and his b/s and not being prepared to apologise. Man get some class and stop lying.
Why has he been reinstated?
Are you denying the facts on why he was suspended? Get a grip man accept the truth for once.
He was suspended for what he said about the report, not it's contents.
And after due process was reinstated.
So is he back in the party as he was before then even if he still hates the Jews?
"
You either:
1. Believe this, in which case you are so blinded by your own hate it's pointless talking to you.
Or
2. You know it's bollocks and are just trying (ineptly) to troll this discussion. So again it's pointless talking to you.
Thank you for playing. Good night. |
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"Personally I think there is racism in both parties it’s just the Tories are better at deflecting the detail.
Pretty Patel is just a nasty piece of work from what I see but not sure she’s racist.
Corbyn made the mistake of not shouting anti semitism down loud enough so the papers had a field day as the Tories kept bringing it into the light.
I’m sure if you dig deep enough there are soft racists in the leadership of both parties. NO I CAN’T PROVE IT AND NO I CANT SHOW YOU EVIDENCE.
The Tories party is awash with blue rinse brigade white 60+ year olds who want to go back the 60’s and stop immigration. Labour strongholds in the north will have similar older generations.
What bothers me is this is finger pointing for effect rather than questioning what’s wrong across the political parties and subsequently the country’s attitude to race. This shouldn’t be point scoring as it’s fundamental to our society. American blacks in the WW2 were amazed to see how well they were treated here 75years ago before going back to segregation. Have we moved on at all? Looking at all this I’m not sure.
Bring back Charles Kennedy. He was a d*unk but didn’t blame everyone else for having a drink to deflect attention from himself.
I think the facts are there are racists everywhere both in and out of politics and following on with facts only one leader or ex leader has been investigated over it and found complicit.
No he wasn't.
YES he was read the report! You really are full of lies and hate arn't you he as suspended on that report and his b/s and not being prepared to apologise. Man get some class and stop lying.
Why has he been reinstated?
Are you denying the facts on why he was suspended? Get a grip man accept the truth for once.
He was suspended for what he said about the report, not it's contents.
And after due process was reinstated.
So is he back in the party as he was before then even if he still hates the Jews?
You either:
1. Believe this, in which case you are so blinded by your own hate it's pointless talking to you.
Or
2. You know it's bollocks and are just trying (ineptly) to troll this discussion. So again it's pointless talking to you.
Thank you for playing. Good night. "
No C!
C is the fact you are duplicitous about his position pretending that reinstation is back to norm but thats not true. The reality is Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer will continue withholding the Labour whip from his predecessor means Mr Corbyn is still not officially a Labour MP.
So you are either trolling yourself or deluded as he is not officially a labour MP for reasons not disclosed.
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Just putting it out there,
In terms of gender and race equality, labour never had
1. A Woman leader
2. A Ethnic minority chancellor or home secretary.
In terms of providing opportunity for all, Labour has consistently prevented Blacks, Asian or Women from getting to the higher echalons of government.
The tories maybe bad, but they have at least demonstrated they could have could have people in government who actually represent the UK population.
Labour needs to address that problem. |
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"Just putting it out there,
In terms of gender and race equality, labour never had
1. A Woman leader
2. A Ethnic minority chancellor or home secretary.
In terms of providing opportunity for all, Labour has consistently prevented Blacks, Asian or Women from getting to the higher echalons of government.
The tories maybe bad, but they have at least demonstrated they could have could have people in government who actually represent the UK population.
Labour needs to address that problem."
They won't. And Labour supporters just accuse the Tories of tokenism. Which in itself is racist and an insult to the people who have been put into those positions |
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"It just baffles how people still confuse the dislike of a religion with racism
The term Islamophobia has been invented to stifle criticism of one religion
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I actually dislike most religions. A room full of evangelical Christians is probably my worst nightmare. |
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By *adetMan
over a year ago
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"It just baffles how people still confuse the dislike of a religion with racism
The term Islamophobia has been invented to stifle criticism of one religion
I actually dislike most religions. A room full of evangelical Christians is probably my worst nightmare. "
Agreed. And we need to recognise that criticism of ALL religions is a vital component of a free democracy and I find this steady slide towards new blasphemy laws sinister and creepy
The term Islamophobia is being used to stop criticism of Islam and that has to stop |
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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago
Derry |
"It just baffles how people still confuse the dislike of a religion with racism
The term Islamophobia has been invented to stifle criticism of one religion
I actually dislike most religions. A room full of evangelical Christians is probably my worst nightmare. "
Best not come to Northern Ireland then. |
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"It just baffles how people still confuse the dislike of a religion with racism
The term Islamophobia has been invented to stifle criticism of one religion
I actually dislike most religions. A room full of evangelical Christians is probably my worst nightmare. "
Ditto..
Would insert 'radical extrmists' with some.. |
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"It just baffles how people still confuse the dislike of a religion with racism
The term Islamophobia has been invented to stifle criticism of one religion
I actually dislike most religions. A room full of evangelical Christians is probably my worst nightmare.
Best not come to Northern Ireland then."
lol
I've been plenty of times and, like most places in the world, as long as you avoid the eejits it's a great place.
I think this is the bottom line, without untoward outside influences, most people are pretty decent.
We are all a little wary of the different, but when you actually come face to face with it, it's never as different as you imagined.
We are all much more alike than we are different. |
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"Just putting it out there,
In terms of gender and race equality, labour never had
1. A Woman leader
2. A Ethnic minority chancellor or home secretary.
In terms of providing opportunity for all, Labour has consistently prevented Blacks, Asian or Women from getting to the higher echalons of government.
The tories maybe bad, but they have at least demonstrated they could have could have people in government who actually represent the UK population.
Labour needs to address that problem."
I totally agree. Also noticeable that a certain person hasn't jumped on your comments! |
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"Just for a bit of balance
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2020/nov/18/tory-mp-will-face-no-further-action-for-anglo-muslim-relations-tweet
The mp in question also has previous
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/trump-protest-uk-visit-latest-michael-fabricant-islamophobic-tweet-sadiq-khan-pig-a8445456.html%3famp
I'm sure the usual suspects will Express their disgust at the gmnt over this.
After all they are so concerned about racism in political parties
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Islam is not a race. |
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"Just for a bit of balance
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2020/nov/18/tory-mp-will-face-no-further-action-for-anglo-muslim-relations-tweet
The mp in question also has previous
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/trump-protest-uk-visit-latest-michael-fabricant-islamophobic-tweet-sadiq-khan-pig-a8445456.html%3famp
I'm sure the usual suspects will Express their disgust at the gmnt over this.
After all they are so concerned about racism in political parties
Islam is not a race."
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By *adetMan
over a year ago
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"Just for a bit of balance
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2020/nov/18/tory-mp-will-face-no-further-action-for-anglo-muslim-relations-tweet
The mp in question also has previous
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/trump-protest-uk-visit-latest-michael-fabricant-islamophobic-tweet-sadiq-khan-pig-a8445456.html%3famp
I'm sure the usual suspects will Express their disgust at the gmnt over this.
After all they are so concerned about racism in political parties
Islam is not a race."
It's a very obvious attempt to categorize the criticism of Islam with racism. Unfortunately too many people haven't cottoned on to that yet |
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By *exy7Man
over a year ago
Bristol |
"More shit from lionel, What about Corbyn Apparently he's going to be in charge of the concentration camps should labour gain power!"
At what point you lot will move on from Corbyn and stop using him to justify the Tory shit-show?
It’s a bit like the financial crash of 2008 to justify the crappy Tory policies. At some point the tories will have to act as adults and take responsibility for their actions instead of blaming everybody else. Grow up and take ownership.
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"Just for a bit of balance
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2020/nov/18/tory-mp-will-face-no-further-action-for-anglo-muslim-relations-tweet
The mp in question also has previous
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/trump-protest-uk-visit-latest-michael-fabricant-islamophobic-tweet-sadiq-khan-pig-a8445456.html%3famp
I'm sure the usual suspects will Express their disgust at the gmnt over this.
After all they are so concerned about racism in political parties
Islam is not a race.
It's a very obvious attempt to categorize the criticism of Islam with racism. Unfortunately too many people haven't cottoned on to that yet"
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See where some people realise that Islam is a religion and not a race, that is true.
Problem is that many on the far right have made ‘muslim’ a code for asians and arabs.
This is due to the fact that saying you hate muslims is far more acceptable to the general public, than saying you hate asians or arabs ‘e.g. brown people’.
The far right have been doing this for years now, they have repackaged their hate speech into an acceptable form that the non enlightened can use it to keep them just on the right side of the law.
Its fooled a lot of people, and therefore it has caused legitimate debate on the subject matter difficult, lest you be considered a racist thug,
So really you need to blame the far right for fucking up the debate, so unless they have been taken out of the debate, people are not going to be able to discuss their concerns.
So in conclusion, don’t let a bunch of wankstains hijack debates and inject their racist prejudices, as they are bunch of stupid cocksuckers.
Don’t you agree?
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"See where some people realise that Islam is a religion and not a race, that is true.
Problem is that many on the far right have made ‘muslim’ a code for asians and arabs.
This is due to the fact that saying you hate muslims is far more acceptable to the general public, than saying you hate asians or arabs ‘e.g. brown people’.
The far right have been doing this for years now, they have repackaged their hate speech into an acceptable form that the non enlightened can use it to keep them just on the right side of the law.
Its fooled a lot of people, and therefore it has caused legitimate debate on the subject matter difficult, lest you be considered a racist thug,
So really you need to blame the far right for fucking up the debate, so unless they have been taken out of the debate, people are not going to be able to discuss their concerns.
So in conclusion, don’t let a bunch of wankstains hijack debates and inject their racist prejudices, as they are bunch of stupid cocksuckers.
Don’t you agree?
"
you have to blame the public too if they are thick enough not to know there are muslims,sikh,s,hindu,s,budist,s, etc in those groups after all most of us live among them you cant blame right wing groups most of us dont even encounter their crap without searching for it. |
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"See where some people realise that Islam is a religion and not a race, that is true.
Problem is that many on the far right have made ‘muslim’ a code for asians and arabs.
This is due to the fact that saying you hate muslims is far more acceptable to the general public, than saying you hate asians or arabs ‘e.g. brown people’.
The far right have been doing this for years now, they have repackaged their hate speech into an acceptable form that the non enlightened can use it to keep them just on the right side of the law.
Its fooled a lot of people, and therefore it has caused legitimate debate on the subject matter difficult, lest you be considered a racist thug,
So really you need to blame the far right for fucking up the debate, so unless they have been taken out of the debate, people are not going to be able to discuss their concerns.
So in conclusion, don’t let a bunch of wankstains hijack debates and inject their racist prejudices, as they are bunch of stupid cocksuckers.
Don’t you agree?
you have to blame the public too if they are thick enough not to know there are muslims,sikh,s,hindu,s,budist,s, etc in those groups after all most of us live among them you cant blame right wing groups most of us dont even encounter their crap without searching for it."
Far right I can, you don’t need to search for it, you’ve found it already if you associate with it.
But robust debate needs to happen, without the intereference of discriminatory groups. |
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"More shit from lionel, What about Corbyn Apparently he's going to be in charge of the concentration camps should labour gain power!"
Meanwhile back on planet earth..I'm sure the fella who recieved the racist tweet shouldnt be too upset as the wrong terminology was used. |
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