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By *rmrspump OP   Couple  over a year ago

narnia

Trump's attempts to undermine the result of the election may seem childish, petulant and deluded, but make no mistake, this is part of a very clear strategy. He will eventually concede, but will maintain that he was robbed in a corrupt coup, and his people will believe him.. He's teeing up Don Jr to take up the banner of avenging his dad, watch for Trump Jr 2024

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Trump's attempts to undermine the result of the election may seem childish, petulant and deluded, but make no mistake, this is part of a very clear strategy. He will eventually concede, but will maintain that he was robbed in a corrupt coup, and his people will believe him.. He's teeing up Don Jr to take up the banner of avenging his dad, watch for Trump Jr 2024"

Family of fucking pricks

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Trump's attempts to undermine the result of the election may seem childish, petulant and deluded, but make no mistake, this is part of a very clear strategy. He will eventually concede, but will maintain that he was robbed in a corrupt coup, and his people will believe him.. He's teeing up Don Jr to take up the banner of avenging his dad, watch for Trump Jr 2024"

Think you've got it, he will never accept he lost..

His ego won't allow it but he will now be on that short list of incumbents who didn't get a second term and that will haunt him..

His plans for after will very much dictate the now..

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By *oxychick35Couple  over a year ago

thornaby


"Trump's attempts to undermine the result of the election may seem childish, petulant and deluded, but make no mistake, this is part of a very clear strategy. He will eventually concede, but will maintain that he was robbed in a corrupt coup, and his people will believe him.. He's teeing up Don Jr to take up the banner of avenging his dad, watch for Trump Jr 2024

Family of fucking pricks "

we’ve got a family over here like that lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Trump's attempts to undermine the result of the election may seem childish, petulant and deluded, but make no mistake, this is part of a very clear strategy. He will eventually concede, but will maintain that he was robbed in a corrupt coup, and his people will believe him.. He's teeing up Don Jr to take up the banner of avenging his dad, watch for Trump Jr 2024

Think you've got it, he will never accept he lost..

His ego won't allow it but he will now be on that short list of incumbents who didn't get a second term and that will haunt him..

His plans for after will very much dictate the now.."

Is Trump Jr as much of a moron, and is his agenda as self serving?

I don't know much about him.

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By *rmrspump OP   Couple  over a year ago

narnia


"Trump's attempts to undermine the result of the election may seem childish, petulant and deluded, but make no mistake, this is part of a very clear strategy. He will eventually concede, but will maintain that he was robbed in a corrupt coup, and his people will believe him.. He's teeing up Don Jr to take up the banner of avenging his dad, watch for Trump Jr 2024

Think you've got it, he will never accept he lost..

His ego won't allow it but he will now be on that short list of incumbents who didn't get a second term and that will haunt him..

His plans for after will very much dictate the now..

Is Trump Jr as much of a moron, and is his agenda as self serving?

I don't know much about him."

He's every bit as appalling as pops, only he doesn't golf, he shots big game for kicks

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Trump's attempts to undermine the result of the election may seem childish, petulant and deluded, but make no mistake, this is part of a very clear strategy. He will eventually concede, but will maintain that he was robbed in a corrupt coup, and his people will believe him.. He's teeing up Don Jr to take up the banner of avenging his dad, watch for Trump Jr 2024

Think you've got it, he will never accept he lost..

His ego won't allow it but he will now be on that short list of incumbents who didn't get a second term and that will haunt him..

His plans for after will very much dictate the now..

Is Trump Jr as much of a moron, and is his agenda as self serving?

I don't know much about him."

Tbh Fabio or Kynaric will know more on that point, going by his tweets he's either of the same cloth or trying to impress Pa..

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Trump's attempts to undermine the result of the election may seem childish, petulant and deluded, but make no mistake, this is part of a very clear strategy. He will eventually concede, but will maintain that he was robbed in a corrupt coup, and his people will believe him.. He's teeing up Don Jr to take up the banner of avenging his dad, watch for Trump Jr 2024

Think you've got it, he will never accept he lost..

His ego won't allow it but he will now be on that short list of incumbents who didn't get a second term and that will haunt him..

His plans for after will very much dictate the now..

Is Trump Jr as much of a moron, and is his agenda as self serving?

I don't know much about him.

Tbh Fabio or Kynaric will know more on that point, going by his tweets he's either of the same cloth or trying to impress Pa.."

you could see 2024 being tee'd up for a DJTJ or ivanka... or someone like a Tucker Carlson.....

it really depends on how much influence trump retains over the republican party..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Trump's attempts to undermine the result of the election may seem childish, petulant and deluded, but make no mistake, this is part of a very clear strategy. He will eventually concede, but will maintain that he was robbed in a corrupt coup, and his people will believe him.. He's teeing up Don Jr to take up the banner of avenging his dad, watch for Trump Jr 2024

Think you've got it, he will never accept he lost..

His ego won't allow it but he will now be on that short list of incumbents who didn't get a second term and that will haunt him..

His plans for after will very much dictate the now..

Is Trump Jr as much of a moron, and is his agenda as self serving?

I don't know much about him.

Tbh Fabio or Kynaric will know more on that point, going by his tweets he's either of the same cloth or trying to impress Pa..

you could see 2024 being tee'd up for a DJTJ or ivanka... or someone like a Tucker Carlson.....

it really depends on how much influence trump retains over the republican party.."

How he conducts himself over the nest three months will determine if they keep him and his family in the fold or not.

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By *rmrspump OP   Couple  over a year ago

narnia


"Trump's attempts to undermine the result of the election may seem childish, petulant and deluded, but make no mistake, this is part of a very clear strategy. He will eventually concede, but will maintain that he was robbed in a corrupt coup, and his people will believe him.. He's teeing up Don Jr to take up the banner of avenging his dad, watch for Trump Jr 2024

Think you've got it, he will never accept he lost..

His ego won't allow it but he will now be on that short list of incumbents who didn't get a second term and that will haunt him..

His plans for after will very much dictate the now..

Is Trump Jr as much of a moron, and is his agenda as self serving?

I don't know much about him.

Tbh Fabio or Kynaric will know more on that point, going by his tweets he's either of the same cloth or trying to impress Pa..

you could see 2024 being tee'd up for a DJTJ or ivanka... or someone like a Tucker Carlson.....

it really depends on how much influence trump retains over the republican party.."

It depends how much support they retain in trump's base.. This charade is solely designed to make these people feel robbed and a grieved, with Donny Jr being the white Knight to right the wrong

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Trump's attempts to undermine the result of the election may seem childish, petulant and deluded, but make no mistake, this is part of a very clear strategy. He will eventually concede, but will maintain that he was robbed in a corrupt coup, and his people will believe him.. He's teeing up Don Jr to take up the banner of avenging his dad, watch for Trump Jr 2024

Think you've got it, he will never accept he lost..

His ego won't allow it but he will now be on that short list of incumbents who didn't get a second term and that will haunt him..

His plans for after will very much dictate the now..

Is Trump Jr as much of a moron, and is his agenda as self serving?

I don't know much about him.

Tbh Fabio or Kynaric will know more on that point, going by his tweets he's either of the same cloth or trying to impress Pa..

you could see 2024 being tee'd up for a DJTJ or ivanka... or someone like a Tucker Carlson.....

it really depends on how much influence trump retains over the republican party.."

Will that depend on how the next seventy odd days pan out ?

If they go for a scorched earth and cause mayhem will the GOP stay well clear?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Trump's attempts to undermine the result of the election may seem childish, petulant and deluded, but make no mistake, this is part of a very clear strategy. He will eventually concede, but will maintain that he was robbed in a corrupt coup, and his people will believe him.. He's teeing up Don Jr to take up the banner of avenging his dad, watch for Trump Jr 2024"

Eric wont

Doesnt understand politics

Donald Junior . Nah he has to

Much to hide .

Ivanka , she's missing the New York

Social life .

Not happening.

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By *oggoneMan  over a year ago

Derry


"Trump's attempts to undermine the result of the election may seem childish, petulant and deluded, but make no mistake, this is part of a very clear strategy. He will eventually concede, but will maintain that he was robbed in a corrupt coup, and his people will believe him.. He's teeing up Don Jr to take up the banner of avenging his dad, watch for Trump Jr 2024

Think you've got it, he will never accept he lost..

His ego won't allow it but he will now be on that short list of incumbents who didn't get a second term and that will haunt him..

His plans for after will very much dictate the now..

Is Trump Jr as much of a moron, and is his agenda as self serving?

I don't know much about him.

Tbh Fabio or Kynaric will know more on that point, going by his tweets he's either of the same cloth or trying to impress Pa..

you could see 2024 being tee'd up for a DJTJ or ivanka... or someone like a Tucker Carlson.....

it really depends on how much influence trump retains over the republican party.."

Trumpism will be bigger than the tea party and the GOP can't afford a splinter party. They have to keep him inside the tent. Trump has shown there's a demand for ultra nationalist grievance politics in the US. I don't think it will be baby don. They tried the TV personality as president so Tucker will kingmaker as opposed to king

Don't be surprised to see Paul Ryan returning to the fray now .

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By *partharmonyCouple  over a year ago

Ruislip

There is talk of Trump himself running again in 2024. That came from one of his staffers. I personally doubt that will happen.

I think at the moment Don Jnr and Ivanka may be thinking of running. I don't think they will get much traction because I don't think they are the master manipulators that Don Snr is. They would only be able to pick up the residual feeling of Trumpists four years on and only time will tell how much of that will be left. Big Don might not even be alive in 2024. Luke

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Trump's attempts to undermine the result of the election may seem childish, petulant and deluded, but make no mistake, this is part of a very clear strategy. He will eventually concede, but will maintain that he was robbed in a corrupt coup, and his people will believe him.. He's teeing up Don Jr to take up the banner of avenging his dad, watch for Trump Jr 2024

Think you've got it, he will never accept he lost..

His ego won't allow it but he will now be on that short list of incumbents who didn't get a second term and that will haunt him..

His plans for after will very much dictate the now..

Is Trump Jr as much of a moron, and is his agenda as self serving?

I don't know much about him.

Tbh Fabio or Kynaric will know more on that point, going by his tweets he's either of the same cloth or trying to impress Pa.."

He can try and run he has a good chance. Heard him speak he is more eloquent then his father. But he needs to lean more towards the middle. Like every politian should.

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By *oxychick35Couple  over a year ago

thornaby


"There is talk of Trump himself running again in 2024. That came from one of his staffers. I personally doubt that will happen.

I think at the moment Don Jnr and Ivanka may be thinking of running. I don't think they will get much traction because I don't think they are the master manipulators that Don Snr is. They would only be able to pick up the residual feeling of Trumpists four years on and only time will tell how much of that will be left. Big Don might not even be alive in 2024. Luke "

it’s just wrong that old men can even attempt to run should be an upper age limit surely to god same over here they shouldn’t be allowed past 60 for me

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By *ovebjsMan  over a year ago

Bristol

I think once he is out properly a lot will distance themselves from him as there will be no more advantage to being in his little club.

He has been a constant embarrassment to a lot of republicans but he was president and so could cause them problems if they did not agree with him.

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By *igsteve43Man  over a year ago

derby


"Trump's attempts to undermine the result of the election may seem childish, petulant and deluded, but make no mistake, this is part of a very clear strategy. He will eventually concede, but will maintain that he was robbed in a corrupt coup, and his people will believe him.. He's teeing up Don Jr to take up the banner of avenging his dad, watch for Trump Jr 2024

Think you've got it, he will never accept he lost..

His ego won't allow it but he will now be on that short list of incumbents who didn't get a second term and that will haunt him..

His plans for after will very much dictate the now..

Is Trump Jr as much of a moron, and is his agenda as self serving?

I don't know much about him.

Tbh Fabio or Kynaric will know more on that point, going by his tweets he's either of the same cloth or trying to impress Pa..

He can try and run he has a good chance. Heard him speak he is more eloquent then his father. But he needs to lean more towards the middle. Like every politian should."

In America if you want the middle vote democrat simples

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By *dsindyTV/TS  over a year ago

East Lancashire


"There is talk of Trump himself running again in 2024. That came from one of his staffers. I personally doubt that will happen.

I think at the moment Don Jnr and Ivanka may be thinking of running. I don't think they will get much traction because I don't think they are the master manipulators that Don Snr is. They would only be able to pick up the residual feeling of Trumpists four years on and only time will tell how much of that will be left. Big Don might not even be alive in 2024. Luke it’s just wrong that old men can even attempt to run should be an upper age limit surely to god same over here they shouldn’t be allowed past 60 for me "

So the democratic process should be limited to individuals under a certain age? Not very democratic that.....especially as the demographics suggest an aging population. What is your view on this particular position?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"There is talk of Trump himself running again in 2024. That came from one of his staffers. I personally doubt that will happen.

I think at the moment Don Jnr and Ivanka may be thinking of running. I don't think they will get much traction because I don't think they are the master manipulators that Don Snr is. They would only be able to pick up the residual feeling of Trumpists four years on and only time will tell how much of that will be left. Big Don might not even be alive in 2024. Luke it’s just wrong that old men can even attempt to run should be an upper age limit surely to god same over here they shouldn’t be allowed past 60 for me "

It's kind of getting crazy. But we don't think anything will happen. Vet page with over 300000 is lit up like a Christmas tree. Trying to help being rational.

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"I think once he is out properly a lot will distance themselves from him as there will be no more advantage to being in his little club.

He has been a constant embarrassment to a lot of republicans but he was president and so could cause them problems if they did not agree with him.

"

A lot have walked away from him now.

He actually thinks he can sue democracy

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Trump's attempts to undermine the result of the election may seem childish, petulant and deluded, but make no mistake, this is part of a very clear strategy. He will eventually concede, but will maintain that he was robbed in a corrupt coup, and his people will believe him.. He's teeing up Don Jr to take up the banner of avenging his dad, watch for Trump Jr 2024

Think you've got it, he will never accept he lost..

His ego won't allow it but he will now be on that short list of incumbents who didn't get a second term and that will haunt him..

His plans for after will very much dictate the now..

Is Trump Jr as much of a moron, and is his agenda as self serving?

I don't know much about him.

Tbh Fabio or Kynaric will know more on that point, going by his tweets he's either of the same cloth or trying to impress Pa..

He can try and run he has a good chance. Heard him speak he is more eloquent then his father. But he needs to lean more towards the middle. Like every politian should."

The Swedish chef in the muppets is more eloquent than his father.

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By *oxychick35Couple  over a year ago

thornaby


"There is talk of Trump himself running again in 2024. That came from one of his staffers. I personally doubt that will happen.

I think at the moment Don Jnr and Ivanka may be thinking of running. I don't think they will get much traction because I don't think they are the master manipulators that Don Snr is. They would only be able to pick up the residual feeling of Trumpists four years on and only time will tell how much of that will be left. Big Don might not even be alive in 2024. Luke it’s just wrong that old men can even attempt to run should be an upper age limit surely to god same over here they shouldn’t be allowed past 60 for me

So the democratic process should be limited to individuals under a certain age? Not very democratic that.....especially as the demographics suggest an aging population. What is your view on this particular position?"

is there not a lower age limit ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I think once he is out properly a lot will distance themselves from him as there will be no more advantage to being in his little club.

He has been a constant embarrassment to a lot of republicans but he was president and so could cause them problems if they did not agree with him.

A lot have walked away from him now.

He actually thinks he can sue democracy "

It worked for bush. We just giving you once again the sentiment of our side of things.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"I think once he is out properly a lot will distance themselves from him as there will be no more advantage to being in his little club.

He has been a constant embarrassment to a lot of republicans but he was president and so could cause them problems if they did not agree with him.

A lot have walked away from him now.

He actually thinks he can sue democracy

It worked for bush. We just giving you once again the sentiment of our side of things."

But he hasn't got a brother helping him out this time..

Interesting listening to a guy from the republican party earlier on radio 4 essentially saying they are struggling to get any of the big republican lawyers to take the allegations forward and might have to rely on Giuliano..

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By *partharmonyCouple  over a year ago

Ruislip


"I think once he is out properly a lot will distance themselves from him as there will be no more advantage to being in his little club.

He has been a constant embarrassment to a lot of republicans but he was president and so could cause them problems if they did not agree with him.

"

I think that's right. Trump has dominated the news since well before he was elected. For the last few days he has already been treated as yesterday's man by the media. I don't think he has Rupert Murdoch backing him now. That marriage of convenience is over.

Even if he rants and raves on social media, I think a lot of the steam will go out of his movement. Media won't treat his tweets as news much any more. He stoked up resentment and division at rallies and press conferences. I can't see that continuing.

People will move on. He will always be a vengeful and bitter child, but the world will move on. The mantle will fall to Steve Bannon, QAnon and others to keep the Trumpian flame alive, if they can.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"There is talk of Trump himself running again in 2024. That came from one of his staffers. I personally doubt that will happen.

I think at the moment Don Jnr and Ivanka may be thinking of running. I don't think they will get much traction because I don't think they are the master manipulators that Don Snr is. They would only be able to pick up the residual feeling of Trumpists four years on and only time will tell how much of that will be left. Big Don might not even be alive in 2024. Luke it’s just wrong that old men can even attempt to run should be an upper age limit surely to god same over here they shouldn’t be allowed past 60 for me

It's kind of getting crazy. But we don't think anything will happen. Vet page with over 300000 is lit up like a Christmas tree. Trying to help being rational."

The military do have a liking for the far right, that’s for sure.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I think once he is out properly a lot will distance themselves from him as there will be no more advantage to being in his little club.

He has been a constant embarrassment to a lot of republicans but he was president and so could cause them problems if they did not agree with him.

I think that's right. Trump has dominated the news since well before he was elected. For the last few days he has already been treated as yesterday's man by the media. I don't think he has Rupert Murdoch backing him now. That marriage of convenience is over.

Even if he rants and raves on social media, I think a lot of the steam will go out of his movement. Media won't treat his tweets as news much any more. He stoked up resentment and division at rallies and press conferences. I can't see that continuing.

People will move on. He will always be a vengeful and bitter child, but the world will move on. The mantle will fall to Steve Bannon, QAnon and others to keep the Trumpian flame alive, if they can. "

He needs to stand down that being said. Sorry to disappoint this trainwreck of a election but we don't not see the riots and destruction on the horizon for the average trump voter perspective. Sorry no gun show here..

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"There is talk of Trump himself running again in 2024. That came from one of his staffers. I personally doubt that will happen.

I think at the moment Don Jnr and Ivanka may be thinking of running. I don't think they will get much traction because I don't think they are the master manipulators that Don Snr is. They would only be able to pick up the residual feeling of Trumpists four years on and only time will tell how much of that will be left. Big Don might not even be alive in 2024. Luke it’s just wrong that old men can even attempt to run should be an upper age limit surely to god same over here they shouldn’t be allowed past 60 for me

It's kind of getting crazy. But we don't think anything will happen. Vet page with over 300000 is lit up like a Christmas tree. Trying to help being rational.

The military do have a liking for the far right, that’s for sure."

Not this one..

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"I think once he is out properly a lot will distance themselves from him as there will be no more advantage to being in his little club.

He has been a constant embarrassment to a lot of republicans but he was president and so could cause them problems if they did not agree with him.

I think that's right. Trump has dominated the news since well before he was elected. For the last few days he has already been treated as yesterday's man by the media. I don't think he has Rupert Murdoch backing him now. That marriage of convenience is over.

Even if he rants and raves on social media, I think a lot of the steam will go out of his movement. Media won't treat his tweets as news much any more. He stoked up resentment and division at rallies and press conferences. I can't see that continuing.

People will move on. He will always be a vengeful and bitter child, but the world will move on. The mantle will fall to Steve Bannon, QAnon and others to keep the Trumpian flame alive, if they can.

He needs to stand down that being said. Sorry to disappoint this trainwreck of a election but we don't not see the riots and destruction on the horizon for the average trump voter perspective. Sorry no gun show here.."

And that does say a lot, perhaps about the perception of those of some of us who are not living there and they the rabble rousers and extremistz will not have this day..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I think once he is out properly a lot will distance themselves from him as there will be no more advantage to being in his little club.

He has been a constant embarrassment to a lot of republicans but he was president and so could cause them problems if they did not agree with him.

I think that's right. Trump has dominated the news since well before he was elected. For the last few days he has already been treated as yesterday's man by the media. I don't think he has Rupert Murdoch backing him now. That marriage of convenience is over.

Even if he rants and raves on social media, I think a lot of the steam will go out of his movement. Media won't treat his tweets as news much any more. He stoked up resentment and division at rallies and press conferences. I can't see that continuing.

People will move on. He will always be a vengeful and bitter child, but the world will move on. The mantle will fall to Steve Bannon, QAnon and others to keep the Trumpian flame alive, if they can.

He needs to stand down that being said. Sorry to disappoint this trainwreck of a election but we don't not see the riots and destruction on the horizon for the average trump voter perspective. Sorry no gun show here..

And that does say a lot, perhaps about the perception of those of some of us who are not living there and they the rabble rousers and extremistz will not have this day.. "

Normal people sitting at home feeling disappointed aren't newsworthy.

If there is a minority of Trump supporters out waving guns around. This is what gets shown

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I think once he is out properly a lot will distance themselves from him as there will be no more advantage to being in his little club.

He has been a constant embarrassment to a lot of republicans but he was president and so could cause them problems if they did not agree with him.

I think that's right. Trump has dominated the news since well before he was elected. For the last few days he has already been treated as yesterday's man by the media. I don't think he has Rupert Murdoch backing him now. That marriage of convenience is over.

Even if he rants and raves on social media, I think a lot of the steam will go out of his movement. Media won't treat his tweets as news much any more. He stoked up resentment and division at rallies and press conferences. I can't see that continuing.

People will move on. He will always be a vengeful and bitter child, but the world will move on. The mantle will fall to Steve Bannon, QAnon and others to keep the Trumpian flame alive, if they can.

He needs to stand down that being said. Sorry to disappoint this trainwreck of a election but we don't not see the riots and destruction on the horizon for the average trump voter perspective. Sorry no gun show here..

And that does say a lot, perhaps about the perception of those of some of us who are not living there and they the rabble rousers and extremistz will not have this day..

Normal people sitting at home feeling disappointed aren't newsworthy.

If there is a minority of Trump supporters out waving guns around. This is what gets shown"

We belong to multiple between pages. That being said we turning our flags backwards in protest. Not raiding cities just a silent protest about how you feel.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Veteran

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By *oggoneMan  over a year ago

Derry


"I think once he is out properly a lot will distance themselves from him as there will be no more advantage to being in his little club.

He has been a constant embarrassment to a lot of republicans but he was president and so could cause them problems if they did not agree with him.

I think that's right. Trump has dominated the news since well before he was elected. For the last few days he has already been treated as yesterday's man by the media. I don't think he has Rupert Murdoch backing him now. That marriage of convenience is over.

Even if he rants and raves on social media, I think a lot of the steam will go out of his movement. Media won't treat his tweets as news much any more. He stoked up resentment and division at rallies and press conferences. I can't see that continuing.

People will move on. He will always be a vengeful and bitter child, but the world will move on. The mantle will fall to Steve Bannon, QAnon and others to keep the Trumpian flame alive, if they can. "

10 years ago, it was the birther conspiracy, it's been Q lunacy for last 2 years. There will be another one along shortly, the son of Q, return of Q whatever it will be called. Trump reenergised the far right both in the US and Europe. They're inciting covid deniers already. Fascism is back.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I think once he is out properly a lot will distance themselves from him as there will be no more advantage to being in his little club.

He has been a constant embarrassment to a lot of republicans but he was president and so could cause them problems if they did not agree with him.

I think that's right. Trump has dominated the news since well before he was elected. For the last few days he has already been treated as yesterday's man by the media. I don't think he has Rupert Murdoch backing him now. That marriage of convenience is over.

Even if he rants and raves on social media, I think a lot of the steam will go out of his movement. Media won't treat his tweets as news much any more. He stoked up resentment and division at rallies and press conferences. I can't see that continuing.

People will move on. He will always be a vengeful and bitter child, but the world will move on. The mantle will fall to Steve Bannon, QAnon and others to keep the Trumpian flame alive, if they can.

He needs to stand down that being said. Sorry to disappoint this trainwreck of a election but we don't not see the riots and destruction on the horizon for the average trump voter perspective. Sorry no gun show here..

And that does say a lot, perhaps about the perception of those of some of us who are not living there and they the rabble rousers and extremistz will not have this day..

Normal people sitting at home feeling disappointed aren't newsworthy.

If there is a minority of Trump supporters out waving guns around. This is what gets shown

We belong to multiple between pages. That being said we turning our flags backwards in protest. Not raiding cities just a silent protest about how you feel. "

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By *dsindyTV/TS  over a year ago

East Lancashire


"is there not a lower age limit ? "

That is not a valid comparison (in my opinion). The reason for a lower age limit is so that we dont have people who have not yet reached a level of understanding and maturity (aka children) trying to influence society. Most societies have this in place to protect the immature from their own excesses....like letting 30 million kids vote for as much ice cream as they want .

The idea is that with age comes experience (i wont say wisdom as that does not always equate with age), and with experience comes the ability to understand the choices made.

So, unless it is CLEARLY proven that a person over a certain age is incapable, then I see no reason why old age should be a bar.....to position of responsibility or anything else.

Of course, this is only my opinion and I realise that others may disagree.

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By *oxychick35Couple  over a year ago

thornaby


"is there not a lower age limit ?

That is not a valid comparison (in my opinion). The reason for a lower age limit is so that we dont have people who have not yet reached a level of understanding and maturity (aka children) trying to influence society. Most societies have this in place to protect the immature from their own excesses....like letting 30 million kids vote for as much ice cream as they want .

The idea is that with age comes experience (i wont say wisdom as that does not always equate with age), and with experience comes the ability to understand the choices made.

So, unless it is CLEARLY proven that a person over a certain age is incapable, then I see no reason why old age should be a bar.....to position of responsibility or anything else.

Of course, this is only my opinion and I realise that others may disagree."

I respect yr opinion that’s all this site is about really I just think there’s a retirement age for a reason just don’t know why there isn’t in politics I truelly respect older ppl but do I think they should be deciding the future of our young ppl no way the speed of change in the world now is frightening there is now way someone in there 70s can even comprehend it yet it is only going to get faster

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By *dsindyTV/TS  over a year ago

East Lancashire

In some ways i agree with you, but the demographics of an aging population combined with multiple advancements in medical applications means those elder people are going to be much more active and vocal.....and they will want someone of there ilk to represent them.

Maybe that will be the next evolution on the political chain....instead of being split along left/centre/right it will also be split more and more on age...interesting thought perhaps?

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By *ssex_tomMan  over a year ago

Chelmsford

I hope Trumpy runs again..

To be fair I wonder if the USA should split into two countries.. the Red and the Blue

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By *hamelessAndHussyCouple  over a year ago

Uckfield

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By *oxychick35Couple  over a year ago

thornaby


"In some ways i agree with you, but the demographics of an aging population combined with multiple advancements in medical applications means those elder people are going to be much more active and vocal.....and they will want someone of there ilk to represent them.

Maybe that will be the next evolution on the political chain....instead of being split along left/centre/right it will also be split more and more on age...interesting thought perhaps?"

I think you’ve got something there instead of left/right more along the age I hope so it will definitely liven politics up lol

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By *hamelessAndHussyCouple  over a year ago

Uckfield


"

To be fair I wonder if the USA should split into two countries.. the Red and the Blue"

You could say that about the UK too, but how many Red bits would we need?

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By *hetalkingstoveMan  over a year ago

London

IMO if the Republicans are wise they'll move on from anyone Trump associated.

It's not like Trump won after fifty years of Democrats rule or something. There's no reason to believe he achieved anything special.

The guy I'm worried about as a lefty is Tom Cotton. Hard right, authoritarian, military background, seemingly not a fucking idiot like most of the Trumps.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The military do have a liking for the far right, that’s for sure.

Not this one.."

You’re the exception that proves the rule... or something.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"IMO if the Republicans are wise they'll move on from anyone Trump associated.

It's not like Trump won after fifty years of Democrats rule or something. There's no reason to believe he achieved anything special.

The guy I'm worried about as a lefty is Tom Cotton. Hard right, authoritarian, military background, seemingly not a fucking idiot like most of the Trumps.

"

True. Mike Pence is evil as fuck too.

There are more competent and equally ruthlessly self serving Republicans out there.

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By *rmrspump OP   Couple  over a year ago

narnia


"IMO if the Republicans are wise they'll move on from anyone Trump associated.

It's not like Trump won after fifty years of Democrats rule or something. There's no reason to believe he achieved anything special.

The guy I'm worried about as a lefty is Tom Cotton. Hard right, authoritarian, military background, seemingly not a fucking idiot like most of the Trumps.

True. Mike Pence is evil as fuck too.

There are more competent and equally ruthlessly self serving Republicans out there."

What Trump proved was how utterly corruptable the US system of government is and just how impotent the so called "checks and balances" are. The ones that will come after him will have more craft and guile, I worry for the future

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"The military do have a liking for the far right, that’s for sure.

Not this one..

You’re the exception that proves the rule... or something."

Sort of surprisingly we had a few ex military as union reps..

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"IMO if the Republicans are wise they'll move on from anyone Trump associated.

It's not like Trump won after fifty years of Democrats rule or something. There's no reason to believe he achieved anything special.

The guy I'm worried about as a lefty is Tom Cotton. Hard right, authoritarian, military background, seemingly not a fucking idiot like most of the Trumps.

True. Mike Pence is evil as fuck too.

There are more competent and equally ruthlessly self serving Republicans out there.

What Trump proved was how utterly corruptable the US system of government is and just how impotent the so called "checks and balances" are. The ones that will come after him will have more craft and guile, I worry for the future"

He seems to have ushered in a new age where truth and fact are fluid concepts.

He will say one thing and completely deny it the next.Its almost surreal.

We have it here,perhaps to a lesser extent and peoples apathy allows it to happen.

But that's what happens when you vote in a populist gmnt.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Notice no riots because biden won. Imagine if Trump won. Confusing isn't it ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Notice no riots because biden won. Imagine if Trump won. Confusing isn't it ? "

You want us to imagine that Trump won, and speculate about the probability of riots?

In anycase. I am pleased that there is currently no civil unrest.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Notice no riots because biden won. Imagine if Trump won. Confusing isn't it ?

You want us to imagine that Trump won, and speculate about the probability of riots?

In anycase. I am pleased that there is currently no civil unrest. "

So the threat of civil unrest if you lived in one of the hotspots didn't reflect on the election ? Could that threat alone influence voter turnout.

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Notice no riots because biden won. Imagine if Trump won. Confusing isn't it ? "

That could also be that in a lot of the cities where they are celebrating.... they do not allow handguns to be taken outside

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Notice no riots because biden won. Imagine if Trump won. Confusing isn't it ?

You want us to imagine that Trump won, and speculate about the probability of riots?

In anycase. I am pleased that there is currently no civil unrest.

So the threat of civil unrest if you lived in one of the hotspots didn't reflect on the election ? Could that threat alone influence voter turnout. "

Probably the fact Trump is a racist rapist who has presided over the death of 250,000 Americans influenced the turnout more.

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By *ssex_tomMan  over a year ago

Chelmsford


"Notice no riots because biden won. Imagine if Trump won. Confusing isn't it ?

You want us to imagine that Trump won, and speculate about the probability of riots?

In anycase. I am pleased that there is currently no civil unrest.

So the threat of civil unrest if you lived in one of the hotspots didn't reflect on the election ? Could that threat alone influence voter turnout.

Probably the fact Trump is a racist rapist who has presided over the death of 250,000 Americans influenced the turnout more."

He is a rapist ?

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By *oggoneMan  over a year ago

Derry


"Notice no riots because biden won. Imagine if Trump won. Confusing isn't it ?

You want us to imagine that Trump won, and speculate about the probability of riots?

In anycase. I am pleased that there is currently no civil unrest.

So the threat of civil unrest if you lived in one of the hotspots didn't reflect on the election ? Could that threat alone influence voter turnout.

Probably the fact Trump is a racist rapist who has presided over the death of 250,000 Americans influenced the turnout more.

He is a rapist ?"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegations

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By *ssex_tomMan  over a year ago

Chelmsford


"Notice no riots because biden won. Imagine if Trump won. Confusing isn't it ?

You want us to imagine that Trump won, and speculate about the probability of riots?

In anycase. I am pleased that there is currently no civil unrest.

So the threat of civil unrest if you lived in one of the hotspots didn't reflect on the election ? Could that threat alone influence voter turnout.

Probably the fact Trump is a racist rapist who has presided over the death of 250,000 Americans influenced the turnout more.

He is a rapist ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegations"

Allegations ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Notice no riots because biden won. Imagine if Trump won. Confusing isn't it ?

You want us to imagine that Trump won, and speculate about the probability of riots?

In anycase. I am pleased that there is currently no civil unrest.

So the threat of civil unrest if you lived in one of the hotspots didn't reflect on the election ? Could that threat alone influence voter turnout.

Probably the fact Trump is a racist rapist who has presided over the death of 250,000 Americans influenced the turnout more.

He is a rapist ?"

Yep, he r*ped his ex wife as punishment because she didn’t give him enough sympathy when his newly implanted hair plugs were painful.

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By *oggoneMan  over a year ago

Derry


"Notice no riots because biden won. Imagine if Trump won. Confusing isn't it ?

You want us to imagine that Trump won, and speculate about the probability of riots?

In anycase. I am pleased that there is currently no civil unrest.

So the threat of civil unrest if you lived in one of the hotspots didn't reflect on the election ? Could that threat alone influence voter turnout.

Probably the fact Trump is a racist rapist who has presided over the death of 250,000 Americans influenced the turnout more.

He is a rapist ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegations

Allegations ?"

Self confessed pussy grabber.

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By *ssex_tomMan  over a year ago

Chelmsford


"Notice no riots because biden won. Imagine if Trump won. Confusing isn't it ?

You want us to imagine that Trump won, and speculate about the probability of riots?

In anycase. I am pleased that there is currently no civil unrest.

So the threat of civil unrest if you lived in one of the hotspots didn't reflect on the election ? Could that threat alone influence voter turnout.

Probably the fact Trump is a racist rapist who has presided over the death of 250,000 Americans influenced the turnout more.

He is a rapist ?

Yep, he r*ped his ex wife as punishment because she didn’t give him enough sympathy when his newly implanted hair plugs were painful."

Fact or fake news

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By *ssex_tomMan  over a year ago

Chelmsford


"Notice no riots because biden won. Imagine if Trump won. Confusing isn't it ?

You want us to imagine that Trump won, and speculate about the probability of riots?

In anycase. I am pleased that there is currently no civil unrest.

So the threat of civil unrest if you lived in one of the hotspots didn't reflect on the election ? Could that threat alone influence voter turnout.

Probably the fact Trump is a racist rapist who has presided over the death of 250,000 Americans influenced the turnout more.

He is a rapist ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegations

Allegations ?

Self confessed pussy grabber. "

You say that as if it's true

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Notice no riots because biden won. Imagine if Trump won. Confusing isn't it ?

You want us to imagine that Trump won, and speculate about the probability of riots?

In anycase. I am pleased that there is currently no civil unrest.

So the threat of civil unrest if you lived in one of the hotspots didn't reflect on the election ? Could that threat alone influence voter turnout.

Probably the fact Trump is a racist rapist who has presided over the death of 250,000 Americans influenced the turnout more.

He is a rapist ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegations

Allegations ?

Self confessed pussy grabber.

You say that as if it's true"

Trump said it himself. Do you think he lied about grabbing women by the pussy?

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By *ssex_tomMan  over a year ago

Chelmsford


"Notice no riots because biden won. Imagine if Trump won. Confusing isn't it ?

You want us to imagine that Trump won, and speculate about the probability of riots?

In anycase. I am pleased that there is currently no civil unrest.

So the threat of civil unrest if you lived in one of the hotspots didn't reflect on the election ? Could that threat alone influence voter turnout.

Probably the fact Trump is a racist rapist who has presided over the death of 250,000 Americans influenced the turnout more.

He is a rapist ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegations

Allegations ?

Self confessed pussy grabber.

You say that as if it's true

Trump said it himself. Do you think he lied about grabbing women by the pussy?"

Locker room banter..

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By *rmrspump OP   Couple  over a year ago

narnia


"Notice no riots because biden won. Imagine if Trump won. Confusing isn't it ?

You want us to imagine that Trump won, and speculate about the probability of riots?

In anycase. I am pleased that there is currently no civil unrest.

So the threat of civil unrest if you lived in one of the hotspots didn't reflect on the election ? Could that threat alone influence voter turnout.

Probably the fact Trump is a racist rapist who has presided over the death of 250,000 Americans influenced the turnout more.

He is a rapist ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegations

Allegations ?

Self confessed pussy grabber.

You say that as if it's true

Trump said it himself. Do you think he lied about grabbing women by the pussy?"

Don't waste your time, Tom is either a very poor troll or just too far gone. You'll get better debate from an ikea coffee table

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Notice no riots because biden won. Imagine if Trump won. Confusing isn't it ?

You want us to imagine that Trump won, and speculate about the probability of riots?

In anycase. I am pleased that there is currently no civil unrest.

So the threat of civil unrest if you lived in one of the hotspots didn't reflect on the election ? Could that threat alone influence voter turnout.

Probably the fact Trump is a racist rapist who has presided over the death of 250,000 Americans influenced the turnout more.

He is a rapist ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegations

Allegations ?

Self confessed pussy grabber.

You say that as if it's true

Trump said it himself. Do you think he lied about grabbing women by the pussy?

Don't waste your time, Tom is either a very poor troll or just too far gone. You'll get better debate from an ikea coffee table"

Either way I admire his relentless ignorance of information.

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By *ssex_tomMan  over a year ago

Chelmsford


"Notice no riots because biden won. Imagine if Trump won. Confusing isn't it ?

You want us to imagine that Trump won, and speculate about the probability of riots?

In anycase. I am pleased that there is currently no civil unrest.

So the threat of civil unrest if you lived in one of the hotspots didn't reflect on the election ? Could that threat alone influence voter turnout.

Probably the fact Trump is a racist rapist who has presided over the death of 250,000 Americans influenced the turnout more.

He is a rapist ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegations

Allegations ?

Self confessed pussy grabber.

You say that as if it's true

Trump said it himself. Do you think he lied about grabbing women by the pussy?

Don't waste your time, Tom is either a very poor troll or just too far gone. You'll get better debate from an ikea coffee table"

Night Night then..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Trump's attempts to undermine the result of the election may seem childish, petulant and deluded, but make no mistake, this is part of a very clear strategy. He will eventually concede, but will maintain that he was robbed in a corrupt coup, and his people will believe him.. He's teeing up Don Jr to take up the banner of avenging his dad, watch for Trump Jr 2024

Think you've got it, he will never accept he lost..

His ego won't allow it but he will now be on that short list of incumbents who didn't get a second term and that will haunt him..

His plans for after will very much dictate the now..

Is Trump Jr as much of a moron, and is his agenda as self serving?

I don't know much about him.

Tbh Fabio or Kynaric will know more on that point, going by his tweets he's either of the same cloth or trying to impress Pa..

you could see 2024 being tee'd up for a DJTJ or ivanka... or someone like a Tucker Carlson.....

it really depends on how much influence trump retains over the republican party.."

We thinking Dan Crenshaw.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Notice no riots because biden won. Imagine if Trump won. Confusing isn't it ?

You want us to imagine that Trump won, and speculate about the probability of riots?

In anycase. I am pleased that there is currently no civil unrest.

So the threat of civil unrest if you lived in one of the hotspots didn't reflect on the election ? Could that threat alone influence voter turnout.

Probably the fact Trump is a racist rapist who has presided over the death of 250,000 Americans influenced the turnout more.

He is a rapist ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegations

Allegations ?

Self confessed pussy grabber.

You say that as if it's true

Trump said it himself. Do you think he lied about grabbing women by the pussy?

Locker room banter.. "

Irrelevant now, he is a one term wonder, a laughing stock and will probably end up losing most of his fortune . The Republican Party don’t have the money or the desire to pay for the high costs of any voter fraud trails, you only have to look at the hilarious press conference that Trumps lawyers held at a garden centre . He is done ,

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By *igsteve43Man  over a year ago

derby


"Trump's attempts to undermine the result of the election may seem childish, petulant and deluded, but make no mistake, this is part of a very clear strategy. He will eventually concede, but will maintain that he was robbed in a corrupt coup, and his people will believe him.. He's teeing up Don Jr to take up the banner of avenging his dad, watch for Trump Jr 2024

Think you've got it, he will never accept he lost..

His ego won't allow it but he will now be on that short list of incumbents who didn't get a second term and that will haunt him..

His plans for after will very much dictate the now..

Is Trump Jr as much of a moron, and is his agenda as self serving?

I don't know much about him.

Tbh Fabio or Kynaric will know more on that point, going by his tweets he's either of the same cloth or trying to impress Pa..

you could see 2024 being tee'd up for a DJTJ or ivanka... or someone like a Tucker Carlson.....

it really depends on how much influence trump retains over the republican party..

We thinking Dan Crenshaw."

Who do you think he will be up against? I think Biden will step down for health reasons and throw his weight behind harris

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By *rmrspump OP   Couple  over a year ago

narnia

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By *rmrspump OP   Couple  over a year ago

narnia


"Trump's attempts to undermine the result of the election may seem childish, petulant and deluded, but make no mistake, this is part of a very clear strategy. He will eventually concede, but will maintain that he was robbed in a corrupt coup, and his people will believe him.. He's teeing up Don Jr to take up the banner of avenging his dad, watch for Trump Jr 2024

Think you've got it, he will never accept he lost..

His ego won't allow it but he will now be on that short list of incumbents who didn't get a second term and that will haunt him..

His plans for after will very much dictate the now..

Is Trump Jr as much of a moron, and is his agenda as self serving?

I don't know much about him.

Tbh Fabio or Kynaric will know more on that point, going by his tweets he's either of the same cloth or trying to impress Pa..

you could see 2024 being tee'd up for a DJTJ or ivanka... or someone like a Tucker Carlson.....

it really depends on how much influence trump retains over the republican party..

We thinking Dan Crenshaw.

Who do you think he will be up against? I think Biden will step down for health reasons and throw his weight behind harris"

Was talking about this today, no way Joe's going to last 4 years let alone 8. They'll want Harris to be incumbent for at least a year to give her credibility prior to going for reelection.. Look for Joe to stand down in 22/23

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By *igsteve43Man  over a year ago

derby


"Trump's attempts to undermine the result of the election may seem childish, petulant and deluded, but make no mistake, this is part of a very clear strategy. He will eventually concede, but will maintain that he was robbed in a corrupt coup, and his people will believe him.. He's teeing up Don Jr to take up the banner of avenging his dad, watch for Trump Jr 2024

Think you've got it, he will never accept he lost..

His ego won't allow it but he will now be on that short list of incumbents who didn't get a second term and that will haunt him..

His plans for after will very much dictate the now..

Is Trump Jr as much of a moron, and is his agenda as self serving?

I don't know much about him.

Tbh Fabio or Kynaric will know more on that point, going by his tweets he's either of the same cloth or trying to impress Pa..

you could see 2024 being tee'd up for a DJTJ or ivanka... or someone like a Tucker Carlson.....

it really depends on how much influence trump retains over the republican party..

We thinking Dan Crenshaw.

Who do you think he will be up against? I think Biden will step down for health reasons and throw his weight behind harris

Was talking about this today, no way Joe's going to last 4 years let alone 8. They'll want Harris to be incumbent for at least a year to give her credibility prior to going for reelection.. Look for Joe to stand down in 22/23"

The big question is can they talk Michelle into forming the dream ticket

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


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We thinking Dan Crenshaw."

I hadn't heard of him before.

I read up about him. He has an unusual array of political opinions. Some fairly old fashioned (to be kind), and some progressive.

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