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"The question is why? Thoughts?" Mentioned on another thread There was a tory on any answers before (along with some Brexit party clown) When pressed to criticise what trump had said neither of them would say. I'm guessing boris and co are hastily reassing their options with the eu now. | |||
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"The question is why? Thoughts?" Shit creek without a paddle ? | |||
"The question is why? Thoughts?" I wouldn't trust Boris to open a can of beans that was already open. However in this instance. Not commenting until the winner is announced, seems like the right thing to do. | |||
"The question is why? Thoughts?" Surprising isn’t it for a country that holds all the cards and that is about to be ruling the world again! You can’t expect the poodle to wag the tail at the moment. We’ve got more important issues to discuss. Much easier to demonise the few dozens of migrants crossing the Channel than telling Trump to grow up. | |||
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"V. Simple you don't comment on other countries elections it's called diplomacy. You then only congratulate the winner when the result has been confirmed which it hasn't. Nothing strange just the way it's always been." Good answer, end of thread  | |||
"V. Simple you don't comment on other countries elections it's called diplomacy. You then only congratulate the winner when the result has been confirmed which it hasn't. Nothing strange just the way it's always been." And always should be. Anyone with an ounce of knowledge about international politics should know that you do not interfere with or criticize the internal politics of one of you closest allies. I know that some on here would like to stick some of Trump's shit onto Boris, but this thread is barrel scr*ping stuff. | |||
"V. Simple you don't comment on other countries elections it's called diplomacy. You then only congratulate the winner when the result has been confirmed which it hasn't. Nothing strange just the way it's always been." The notion that we dont comment on other countries is patently ridiculous. | |||
"V. Simple you don't comment on other countries elections it's called diplomacy. You then only congratulate the winner when the result has been confirmed which it hasn't. Nothing strange just the way it's always been. And always should be. Anyone with an ounce of knowledge about international politics should know that you do not interfere with or criticize the internal politics of one of you closest allies. I know that some on here would like to stick some of Trump's shit onto Boris, but this thread is barrel scr*ping stuff." I tend to agree, but Biden has won, at some point he will have to comment and his criticism of Biden and his arse licking of Trump won’t go unnoticed by the new president . What makes me laugh is that the UK think they have a ‘special relationship’ with America, this isn’t the case on their side as will be evident when we try and get a trade deal | |||
"V. Simple you don't comment on other countries elections it's called diplomacy. You then only congratulate the winner when the result has been confirmed which it hasn't. Nothing strange just the way it's always been. And always should be. Anyone with an ounce of knowledge about international politics should know that you do not interfere with or criticize the internal politics of one of you closest allies. I know that some on here would like to stick some of Trump's shit onto Boris, but this thread is barrel scr*ping stuff." Considering how much we apparently prize democracy,it seems a bit strange we dont even comment on that lunatic trying to subvert it. | |||
"The question is why? Thoughts?" probably because its not a good idea to comment on another countries election while its going on,just like putin,macron,merkle etc.  | |||
"The question is why? Thoughts?probably because its not a good idea to comment on another countries election while its going on,just like putin,macron,merkle etc. "Do you think he will ever have the balls to criticise Trumps behaviour once Biden has been confirmed as President? He has a lot of arse licking to do in the new year so it might help if he started ASAP  | |||
"The question is why? Thoughts?probably because its not a good idea to comment on another countries election while its going on,just like putin,macron,merkle etc.
Do you think he will ever have the balls to criticise Trumps behaviour once Biden has been confirmed as President? He has a lot of arse licking to do in the new year so it might help if he started ASAP "well that wasn't the question on the op which has been answered,why didn't you just start with what you really wanted to say.  | |||
"The question is why? Thoughts?probably because its not a good idea to comment on another countries election while its going on,just like putin,macron,merkle etc.
Do you think he will ever have the balls to criticise Trumps behaviour once Biden has been confirmed as President? He has a lot of arse licking to do in the new year so it might help if he started ASAP well that wasn't the question on the op which has been answered,why didn't you just start with what you really wanted to say. "I just said it. I don’t expect Boris to comment on election just yet but Biden winning is a disaster for him and his Brexit strategy. Boris openly criticised Obama’s anti brexit stance by claiming had an “ancestral dislike” of the British empire because he was a “part-Kenyan president. Do you think Biden has forgotten that comment? Biden is also a strong advocate of protecting the GFA which Brexit is in danger of weakening . | |||
"The question is why? Thoughts?probably because its not a good idea to comment on another countries election while its going on,just like putin,macron,merkle etc.
Do you think he will ever have the balls to criticise Trumps behaviour once Biden has been confirmed as President? He has a lot of arse licking to do in the new year so it might help if he started ASAP well that wasn't the question on the op which has been answered,why didn't you just start with what you really wanted to say.
I just said it. I don’t expect Boris to comment on election just yet but Biden winning is a disaster for him and his Brexit strategy. Boris openly criticised Obama’s anti brexit stance by claiming had an “ancestral dislike” of the British empire because he was a “part-Kenyan president. Do you think Biden has forgotten that comment? Biden is also a strong advocate of protecting the GFA which Brexit is in danger of weakening . "Of course, Biden is a supporter of a united ireland he made no secret of that in the past posing for pics with members of the ira.But i think you are very much mistaken if you think him winning is going to affect brexit but i guess you can hang onto that thread of hope for a little while. | |||
"The question is why? Thoughts?probably because its not a good idea to comment on another countries election while its going on,just like putin,macron,merkle etc.
Do you think he will ever have the balls to criticise Trumps behaviour once Biden has been confirmed as President? He has a lot of arse licking to do in the new year so it might help if he started ASAP well that wasn't the question on the op which has been answered,why didn't you just start with what you really wanted to say.
I just said it. I don’t expect Boris to comment on election just yet but Biden winning is a disaster for him and his Brexit strategy. Boris openly criticised Obama’s anti brexit stance by claiming had an “ancestral dislike” of the British empire because he was a “part-Kenyan president. Do you think Biden has forgotten that comment? Biden is also a strong advocate of protecting the GFA which Brexit is in danger of weakening . Of course, Biden is a supporter of a united ireland he made no secret of that in the past posing for pics with members of the ira.But i think you are very much mistaken if you think him winning is going to affect brexit but i guess you can hang onto that thread of hope for a little while."Trump was incredibly pro Brexit..for obvious reasons. Biden was heavily against it. Its bound to have an impact on the talks. | |||
"The question is why? Thoughts?probably because its not a good idea to comment on another countries election while its going on,just like putin,macron,merkle etc.
Do you think he will ever have the balls to criticise Trumps behaviour once Biden has been confirmed as President? He has a lot of arse licking to do in the new year so it might help if he started ASAP well that wasn't the question on the op which has been answered,why didn't you just start with what you really wanted to say.
I just said it. I don’t expect Boris to comment on election just yet but Biden winning is a disaster for him and his Brexit strategy. Boris openly criticised Obama’s anti brexit stance by claiming had an “ancestral dislike” of the British empire because he was a “part-Kenyan president. Do you think Biden has forgotten that comment? Biden is also a strong advocate of protecting the GFA which Brexit is in danger of weakening . Of course, Biden is a supporter of a united ireland he made no secret of that in the past posing for pics with members of the ira.But i think you are very much mistaken if you think him winning is going to affect brexit but i guess you can hang onto that thread of hope for a little while.
Trump was incredibly pro Brexit..for obvious reasons.
Biden was heavily against it.
Its bound to have an impact on the talks."you keep hanging on to that. | |||
"The question is why? Thoughts?probably because its not a good idea to comment on another countries election while its going on,just like putin,macron,merkle etc.
Do you think he will ever have the balls to criticise Trumps behaviour once Biden has been confirmed as President? He has a lot of arse licking to do in the new year so it might help if he started ASAP well that wasn't the question on the op which has been answered,why didn't you just start with what you really wanted to say.
I just said it. I don’t expect Boris to comment on election just yet but Biden winning is a disaster for him and his Brexit strategy. Boris openly criticised Obama’s anti brexit stance by claiming had an “ancestral dislike” of the British empire because he was a “part-Kenyan president. Do you think Biden has forgotten that comment? Biden is also a strong advocate of protecting the GFA which Brexit is in danger of weakening . Of course, Biden is a supporter of a united ireland he made no secret of that in the past posing for pics with members of the ira.But i think you are very much mistaken if you think him winning is going to affect brexit but i guess you can hang onto that thread of hope for a little while."We will see, are you suggesting that Boris didn’t want Trump to win or doesn’t care about the result of the election? | |||
"The question is why? Thoughts?probably because its not a good idea to comment on another countries election while its going on,just like putin,macron,merkle etc.
Do you think he will ever have the balls to criticise Trumps behaviour once Biden has been confirmed as President? He has a lot of arse licking to do in the new year so it might help if he started ASAP well that wasn't the question on the op which has been answered,why didn't you just start with what you really wanted to say.
I just said it. I don’t expect Boris to comment on election just yet but Biden winning is a disaster for him and his Brexit strategy. Boris openly criticised Obama’s anti brexit stance by claiming had an “ancestral dislike” of the British empire because he was a “part-Kenyan president. Do you think Biden has forgotten that comment? Biden is also a strong advocate of protecting the GFA which Brexit is in danger of weakening . Of course, Biden is a supporter of a united ireland he made no secret of that in the past posing for pics with members of the ira.But i think you are very much mistaken if you think him winning is going to affect brexit but i guess you can hang onto that thread of hope for a little while.
We will see, are you suggesting that Boris didn’t want Trump to win or doesn’t care about the result of the election? "no where have i said that? | |||
"The question is why? Thoughts?probably because its not a good idea to comment on another countries election while its going on,just like putin,macron,merkle etc.
Do you think he will ever have the balls to criticise Trumps behaviour once Biden has been confirmed as President? He has a lot of arse licking to do in the new year so it might help if he started ASAP well that wasn't the question on the op which has been answered,why didn't you just start with what you really wanted to say.
I just said it. I don’t expect Boris to comment on election just yet but Biden winning is a disaster for him and his Brexit strategy. Boris openly criticised Obama’s anti brexit stance by claiming had an “ancestral dislike” of the British empire because he was a “part-Kenyan president. Do you think Biden has forgotten that comment? Biden is also a strong advocate of protecting the GFA which Brexit is in danger of weakening . Of course, Biden is a supporter of a united ireland he made no secret of that in the past posing for pics with members of the ira.But i think you are very much mistaken if you think him winning is going to affect brexit but i guess you can hang onto that thread of hope for a little while.
We will see, are you suggesting that Boris didn’t want Trump to win or doesn’t care about the result of the election? no where have i said that?"Why did Boris want Trump to win? | |||
"The question is why? Thoughts?probably because its not a good idea to comment on another countries election while its going on,just like putin,macron,merkle etc.
Do you think he will ever have the balls to criticise Trumps behaviour once Biden has been confirmed as President? He has a lot of arse licking to do in the new year so it might help if he started ASAP well that wasn't the question on the op which has been answered,why didn't you just start with what you really wanted to say.
I just said it. I don’t expect Boris to comment on election just yet but Biden winning is a disaster for him and his Brexit strategy. Boris openly criticised Obama’s anti brexit stance by claiming had an “ancestral dislike” of the British empire because he was a “part-Kenyan president. Do you think Biden has forgotten that comment? Biden is also a strong advocate of protecting the GFA which Brexit is in danger of weakening . Of course, Biden is a supporter of a united ireland he made no secret of that in the past posing for pics with members of the ira.But i think you are very much mistaken if you think him winning is going to affect brexit but i guess you can hang onto that thread of hope for a little while.
Trump was incredibly pro Brexit..for obvious reasons.
Biden was heavily against it.
Its bound to have an impact on the talks.you keep hanging on to that. "I couldn't give a toss but it would be incredibly naive to think it hasn't had an impact | |||
"The question is why? Thoughts?probably because its not a good idea to comment on another countries election while its going on,just like putin,macron,merkle etc.
Do you think he will ever have the balls to criticise Trumps behaviour once Biden has been confirmed as President? He has a lot of arse licking to do in the new year so it might help if he started ASAP well that wasn't the question on the op which has been answered,why didn't you just start with what you really wanted to say.
I just said it. I don’t expect Boris to comment on election just yet but Biden winning is a disaster for him and his Brexit strategy. Boris openly criticised Obama’s anti brexit stance by claiming had an “ancestral dislike” of the British empire because he was a “part-Kenyan president. Do you think Biden has forgotten that comment? Biden is also a strong advocate of protecting the GFA which Brexit is in danger of weakening . Of course, Biden is a supporter of a united ireland he made no secret of that in the past posing for pics with members of the ira.But i think you are very much mistaken if you think him winning is going to affect brexit but i guess you can hang onto that thread of hope for a little while.
Trump was incredibly pro Brexit..for obvious reasons.
Biden was heavily against it.
Its bound to have an impact on the talks.you keep hanging on to that.
I couldn't give a toss but it would be incredibly naive to think it hasn't had an impact
"The fact is pelosi got it wrong that the internal market bill would impact on the gfa infact it holds it up. The Government’s UK Internal Market Bill is needed to maintain the free flow of trade across the United Kingdom To prevent this would be contrary to the 1800 Act of Union between Great Britain and Ireland and 1707 Articles of Union between England and Scotland The Withdrawal Agreement would clearly alter the constitutional status of Northern Ireland within the UK It would amount to a major breach of the core principle of the Belfast (Good Friday) Agreement According to the GFA, NI’s constitutional status cannot be changed without the consent of the people of Northern Ireland. | |||
"The question is why? Thoughts?probably because its not a good idea to comment on another countries election while its going on,just like putin,macron,merkle etc.
Do you think he will ever have the balls to criticise Trumps behaviour once Biden has been confirmed as President? He has a lot of arse licking to do in the new year so it might help if he started ASAP well that wasn't the question on the op which has been answered,why didn't you just start with what you really wanted to say.
I just said it. I don’t expect Boris to comment on election just yet but Biden winning is a disaster for him and his Brexit strategy. Boris openly criticised Obama’s anti brexit stance by claiming had an “ancestral dislike” of the British empire because he was a “part-Kenyan president. Do you think Biden has forgotten that comment? Biden is also a strong advocate of protecting the GFA which Brexit is in danger of weakening . Of course, Biden is a supporter of a united ireland he made no secret of that in the past posing for pics with members of the ira.But i think you are very much mistaken if you think him winning is going to affect brexit but i guess you can hang onto that thread of hope for a little while."At least one of the people he posed with was arrested for the attempted murder of a British Army officer in Belfast. When released on bail she fled to Dublin where the Irish High Court ruled she could not be extradited to the UK because her alleged offence was political. Biden also made a rather sick joke stating that no one wearing Orange in his house was welcome which many would consider as a slur against Protestants . | |||
"The question is why? Thoughts?probably because its not a good idea to comment on another countries election while its going on,just like putin,macron,merkle etc.
Do you think he will ever have the balls to criticise Trumps behaviour once Biden has been confirmed as President? He has a lot of arse licking to do in the new year so it might help if he started ASAP well that wasn't the question on the op which has been answered,why didn't you just start with what you really wanted to say.
I just said it. I don’t expect Boris to comment on election just yet but Biden winning is a disaster for him and his Brexit strategy. Boris openly criticised Obama’s anti brexit stance by claiming had an “ancestral dislike” of the British empire because he was a “part-Kenyan president. Do you think Biden has forgotten that comment? Biden is also a strong advocate of protecting the GFA which Brexit is in danger of weakening . Of course, Biden is a supporter of a united ireland he made no secret of that in the past posing for pics with members of the ira.But i think you are very much mistaken if you think him winning is going to affect brexit but i guess you can hang onto that thread of hope for a little while.
Trump was incredibly pro Brexit..for obvious reasons.
Biden was heavily against it.
Its bound to have an impact on the talks.you keep hanging on to that.
I couldn't give a toss but it would be incredibly naive to think it hasn't had an impact
The fact is pelosi got it wrong that the internal market bill would impact on the gfa infact it holds it up.
The Government’s UK Internal Market Bill is needed to maintain the free flow of trade across the United Kingdom
To prevent this would be contrary to the 1800 Act of Union between Great Britain and Ireland and 1707 Articles of Union between England and Scotland
The Withdrawal Agreement would clearly alter the constitutional status of Northern Ireland within the UK
It would amount to a major breach of the core principle of the Belfast (Good Friday) Agreement
According to the GFA, NI’s constitutional status cannot be changed without the consent of the people of Northern Ireland.
"So, Pelosi and Biden are wrong , yet a bloke on a swinging site forum is correct ? You have to wake up to the fact that Biden is pro EU and anti brexit, if you don’t think that will effect a future trade deal with the US then you are deluded. | |||
"The question is why? Thoughts?probably because its not a good idea to comment on another countries election while its going on,just like putin,macron,merkle etc.
Do you think he will ever have the balls to criticise Trumps behaviour once Biden has been confirmed as President? He has a lot of arse licking to do in the new year so it might help if he started ASAP well that wasn't the question on the op which has been answered,why didn't you just start with what you really wanted to say.
I just said it. I don’t expect Boris to comment on election just yet but Biden winning is a disaster for him and his Brexit strategy. Boris openly criticised Obama’s anti brexit stance by claiming had an “ancestral dislike” of the British empire because he was a “part-Kenyan president. Do you think Biden has forgotten that comment? Biden is also a strong advocate of protecting the GFA which Brexit is in danger of weakening . Of course, Biden is a supporter of a united ireland he made no secret of that in the past posing for pics with members of the ira.But i think you are very much mistaken if you think him winning is going to affect brexit but i guess you can hang onto that thread of hope for a little while.
At least one of the people he posed with was arrested for the attempted murder of a British Army officer in Belfast. When released on bail she fled to Dublin where the Irish High Court ruled she could not be extradited to the UK because her alleged offence was political.
Biden also made a rather sick joke stating that no one wearing Orange in his house was welcome which many would consider as a slur against Protestants . "And? Why is this relevant ? | |||
"The question is why? Thoughts?probably because its not a good idea to comment on another countries election while its going on,just like putin,macron,merkle etc.
Do you think he will ever have the balls to criticise Trumps behaviour once Biden has been confirmed as President? He has a lot of arse licking to do in the new year so it might help if he started ASAP well that wasn't the question on the op which has been answered,why didn't you just start with what you really wanted to say.
I just said it. I don’t expect Boris to comment on election just yet but Biden winning is a disaster for him and his Brexit strategy. Boris openly criticised Obama’s anti brexit stance by claiming had an “ancestral dislike” of the British empire because he was a “part-Kenyan president. Do you think Biden has forgotten that comment? Biden is also a strong advocate of protecting the GFA which Brexit is in danger of weakening . Of course, Biden is a supporter of a united ireland he made no secret of that in the past posing for pics with members of the ira.But i think you are very much mistaken if you think him winning is going to affect brexit but i guess you can hang onto that thread of hope for a little while.
At least one of the people he posed with was arrested for the attempted murder of a British Army officer in Belfast. When released on bail she fled to Dublin where the Irish High Court ruled she could not be extradited to the UK because her alleged offence was political.
Biden also made a rather sick joke stating that no one wearing Orange in his house was welcome which many would consider as a slur against Protestants . "If you don't like that, wait until you hear about Trump's overt race hate. Phew! You're in for a ride. | |||
"The question is why? Thoughts?probably because its not a good idea to comment on another countries election while its going on,just like putin,macron,merkle etc.
Do you think he will ever have the balls to criticise Trumps behaviour once Biden has been confirmed as President? He has a lot of arse licking to do in the new year so it might help if he started ASAP well that wasn't the question on the op which has been answered,why didn't you just start with what you really wanted to say.
I just said it. I don’t expect Boris to comment on election just yet but Biden winning is a disaster for him and his Brexit strategy. Boris openly criticised Obama’s anti brexit stance by claiming had an “ancestral dislike” of the British empire because he was a “part-Kenyan president. Do you think Biden has forgotten that comment? Biden is also a strong advocate of protecting the GFA which Brexit is in danger of weakening . Of course, Biden is a supporter of a united ireland he made no secret of that in the past posing for pics with members of the ira.But i think you are very much mistaken if you think him winning is going to affect brexit but i guess you can hang onto that thread of hope for a little while.
Trump was incredibly pro Brexit..for obvious reasons.
Biden was heavily against it.
Its bound to have an impact on the talks.you keep hanging on to that.
I couldn't give a toss but it would be incredibly naive to think it hasn't had an impact
The fact is pelosi got it wrong that the internal market bill would impact on the gfa infact it holds it up.
The Government’s UK Internal Market Bill is needed to maintain the free flow of trade across the United Kingdom
To prevent this would be contrary to the 1800 Act of Union between Great Britain and Ireland and 1707 Articles of Union between England and Scotland
The Withdrawal Agreement would clearly alter the constitutional status of Northern Ireland within the UK
It would amount to a major breach of the core principle of the Belfast (Good Friday) Agreement
According to the GFA, NI’s constitutional status cannot be changed without the consent of the people of Northern Ireland.
"Most people in Northern Ireland would be more concerned about the free flow of trade than the Good Friday Agreement. It is the free flow of trade that keeps the Northern Ireland economy going, not the GFA. | |||
"The question is why? Thoughts?probably because its not a good idea to comment on another countries election while its going on,just like putin,macron,merkle etc.
Do you think he will ever have the balls to criticise Trumps behaviour once Biden has been confirmed as President? He has a lot of arse licking to do in the new year so it might help if he started ASAP well that wasn't the question on the op which has been answered,why didn't you just start with what you really wanted to say.
I just said it. I don’t expect Boris to comment on election just yet but Biden winning is a disaster for him and his Brexit strategy. Boris openly criticised Obama’s anti brexit stance by claiming had an “ancestral dislike” of the British empire because he was a “part-Kenyan president. Do you think Biden has forgotten that comment? Biden is also a strong advocate of protecting the GFA which Brexit is in danger of weakening . Of course, Biden is a supporter of a united ireland he made no secret of that in the past posing for pics with members of the ira.But i think you are very much mistaken if you think him winning is going to affect brexit but i guess you can hang onto that thread of hope for a little while.
Trump was incredibly pro Brexit..for obvious reasons.
Biden was heavily against it.
Its bound to have an impact on the talks.you keep hanging on to that.
I couldn't give a toss but it would be incredibly naive to think it hasn't had an impact
The fact is pelosi got it wrong that the internal market bill would impact on the gfa infact it holds it up.
The Government’s UK Internal Market Bill is needed to maintain the free flow of trade across the United Kingdom
To prevent this would be contrary to the 1800 Act of Union between Great Britain and Ireland and 1707 Articles of Union between England and Scotland
The Withdrawal Agreement would clearly alter the constitutional status of Northern Ireland within the UK
It would amount to a major breach of the core principle of the Belfast (Good Friday) Agreement
According to the GFA, NI’s constitutional status cannot be changed without the consent of the people of Northern Ireland.
Most people in Northern Ireland would be more concerned about the free flow of trade than the Good Friday Agreement. It is the free flow of trade that keeps the Northern Ireland economy going, not the GFA. "‘Most people’ ? I think you are taking rubbish, any chance of backing up that claim | |||
"The question is why? Thoughts?probably because its not a good idea to comment on another countries election while its going on,just like putin,macron,merkle etc.
Do you think he will ever have the balls to criticise Trumps behaviour once Biden has been confirmed as President? He has a lot of arse licking to do in the new year so it might help if he started ASAP well that wasn't the question on the op which has been answered,why didn't you just start with what you really wanted to say.
I just said it. I don’t expect Boris to comment on election just yet but Biden winning is a disaster for him and his Brexit strategy. Boris openly criticised Obama’s anti brexit stance by claiming had an “ancestral dislike” of the British empire because he was a “part-Kenyan president. Do you think Biden has forgotten that comment? Biden is also a strong advocate of protecting the GFA which Brexit is in danger of weakening . Of course, Biden is a supporter of a united ireland he made no secret of that in the past posing for pics with members of the ira.But i think you are very much mistaken if you think him winning is going to affect brexit but i guess you can hang onto that thread of hope for a little while.
At least one of the people he posed with was arrested for the attempted murder of a British Army officer in Belfast. When released on bail she fled to Dublin where the Irish High Court ruled she could not be extradited to the UK because her alleged offence was political.
Biden also made a rather sick joke stating that no one wearing Orange in his house was welcome which many would consider as a slur against Protestants . "Sick | |||
"The question is why? Thoughts?probably because its not a good idea to comment on another countries election while its going on,just like putin,macron,merkle etc.
Do you think he will ever have the balls to criticise Trumps behaviour once Biden has been confirmed as President? He has a lot of arse licking to do in the new year so it might help if he started ASAP well that wasn't the question on the op which has been answered,why didn't you just start with what you really wanted to say.
I just said it. I don’t expect Boris to comment on election just yet but Biden winning is a disaster for him and his Brexit strategy. Boris openly criticised Obama’s anti brexit stance by claiming had an “ancestral dislike” of the British empire because he was a “part-Kenyan president. Do you think Biden has forgotten that comment? Biden is also a strong advocate of protecting the GFA which Brexit is in danger of weakening . Of course, Biden is a supporter of a united ireland he made no secret of that in the past posing for pics with members of the ira.But i think you are very much mistaken if you think him winning is going to affect brexit but i guess you can hang onto that thread of hope for a little while.
Trump was incredibly pro Brexit..for obvious reasons.
Biden was heavily against it.
Its bound to have an impact on the talks.you keep hanging on to that.
I couldn't give a toss but it would be incredibly naive to think it hasn't had an impact
The fact is pelosi got it wrong that the internal market bill would impact on the gfa infact it holds it up.
The Government’s UK Internal Market Bill is needed to maintain the free flow of trade across the United Kingdom
To prevent this would be contrary to the 1800 Act of Union between Great Britain and Ireland and 1707 Articles of Union between England and Scotland
The Withdrawal Agreement would clearly alter the constitutional status of Northern Ireland within the UK
It would amount to a major breach of the core principle of the Belfast (Good Friday) Agreement
According to the GFA, NI’s constitutional status cannot be changed without the consent of the people of Northern Ireland.
So, Pelosi and Biden are wrong , yet a bloke on a swinging site forum is correct ? You have to wake up to the fact that Biden is pro EU and anti brexit, if you don’t think that will effect a future trade deal with the US then you are deluded. "You seem to hold all your arguments on a future trade deal with the usa and should be happy that it may not happen( but we all know it will at sometime) as you have been opposed to it from the start.Personally i dont care, i hold my hope on joining the transpacific deal.Japan is done australia nz not far away and J trudeau coming out and saying he cant see a problem with a canada uk deal soon.once they are done it should be easy . | |||
"The question is why? Thoughts?probably because its not a good idea to comment on another countries election while its going on,just like putin,macron,merkle etc.
Do you think he will ever have the balls to criticise Trumps behaviour once Biden has been confirmed as President? He has a lot of arse licking to do in the new year so it might help if he started ASAP well that wasn't the question on the op which has been answered,why didn't you just start with what you really wanted to say.
I just said it. I don’t expect Boris to comment on election just yet but Biden winning is a disaster for him and his Brexit strategy. Boris openly criticised Obama’s anti brexit stance by claiming had an “ancestral dislike” of the British empire because he was a “part-Kenyan president. Do you think Biden has forgotten that comment? Biden is also a strong advocate of protecting the GFA which Brexit is in danger of weakening . Of course, Biden is a supporter of a united ireland he made no secret of that in the past posing for pics with members of the ira.But i think you are very much mistaken if you think him winning is going to affect brexit but i guess you can hang onto that thread of hope for a little while.
Trump was incredibly pro Brexit..for obvious reasons.
Biden was heavily against it.
Its bound to have an impact on the talks.you keep hanging on to that.
I couldn't give a toss but it would be incredibly naive to think it hasn't had an impact
The fact is pelosi got it wrong that the internal market bill would impact on the gfa infact it holds it up.
The Government’s UK Internal Market Bill is needed to maintain the free flow of trade across the United Kingdom
To prevent this would be contrary to the 1800 Act of Union between Great Britain and Ireland and 1707 Articles of Union between England and Scotland
The Withdrawal Agreement would clearly alter the constitutional status of Northern Ireland within the UK
It would amount to a major breach of the core principle of the Belfast (Good Friday) Agreement
According to the GFA, NI’s constitutional status cannot be changed without the consent of the people of Northern Ireland.
Most people in Northern Ireland would be more concerned about the free flow of trade than the Good Friday Agreement. It is the free flow of trade that keeps the Northern Ireland economy going, not the GFA. "If there has been any doubt that you do not understand the situation in Northern Ireland. This post has removed that doubt. | |||
"The question is why? Thoughts?probably because its not a good idea to comment on another countries election while its going on,just like putin,macron,merkle etc.
Do you think he will ever have the balls to criticise Trumps behaviour once Biden has been confirmed as President? He has a lot of arse licking to do in the new year so it might help if he started ASAP well that wasn't the question on the op which has been answered,why didn't you just start with what you really wanted to say.
I just said it. I don’t expect Boris to comment on election just yet but Biden winning is a disaster for him and his Brexit strategy. Boris openly criticised Obama’s anti brexit stance by claiming had an “ancestral dislike” of the British empire because he was a “part-Kenyan president. Do you think Biden has forgotten that comment? Biden is also a strong advocate of protecting the GFA which Brexit is in danger of weakening . Of course, Biden is a supporter of a united ireland he made no secret of that in the past posing for pics with members of the ira.But i think you are very much mistaken if you think him winning is going to affect brexit but i guess you can hang onto that thread of hope for a little while.
At least one of the people he posed with was arrested for the attempted murder of a British Army officer in Belfast. When released on bail she fled to Dublin where the Irish High Court ruled she could not be extradited to the UK because her alleged offence was political.
Biden also made a rather sick joke stating that no one wearing Orange in his house was welcome which many would consider as a slur against Protestants . "Donald Trump attended a fund raising event for Sinn Fein in 1995 , New York where Gerry adams joked about them playing the ‘Trump Card’ , could this be considered a slur against Protestants as well | |||
"The question is why? Thoughts?probably because its not a good idea to comment on another countries election while its going on,just like putin,macron,merkle etc.
Do you think he will ever have the balls to criticise Trumps behaviour once Biden has been confirmed as President? He has a lot of arse licking to do in the new year so it might help if he started ASAP well that wasn't the question on the op which has been answered,why didn't you just start with what you really wanted to say.
I just said it. I don’t expect Boris to comment on election just yet but Biden winning is a disaster for him and his Brexit strategy. Boris openly criticised Obama’s anti brexit stance by claiming had an “ancestral dislike” of the British empire because he was a “part-Kenyan president. Do you think Biden has forgotten that comment? Biden is also a strong advocate of protecting the GFA which Brexit is in danger of weakening . Of course, Biden is a supporter of a united ireland he made no secret of that in the past posing for pics with members of the ira.But i think you are very much mistaken if you think him winning is going to affect brexit but i guess you can hang onto that thread of hope for a little while.
Trump was incredibly pro Brexit..for obvious reasons.
Biden was heavily against it.
Its bound to have an impact on the talks.you keep hanging on to that.
I couldn't give a toss but it would be incredibly naive to think it hasn't had an impact
The fact is pelosi got it wrong that the internal market bill would impact on the gfa infact it holds it up.
The Government’s UK Internal Market Bill is needed to maintain the free flow of trade across the United Kingdom
To prevent this would be contrary to the 1800 Act of Union between Great Britain and Ireland and 1707 Articles of Union between England and Scotland
The Withdrawal Agreement would clearly alter the constitutional status of Northern Ireland within the UK
It would amount to a major breach of the core principle of the Belfast (Good Friday) Agreement
According to the GFA, NI’s constitutional status cannot be changed without the consent of the people of Northern Ireland.
So, Pelosi and Biden are wrong , yet a bloke on a swinging site forum is correct ? You have to wake up to the fact that Biden is pro EU and anti brexit, if you don’t think that will effect a future trade deal with the US then you are deluded. You seem to hold all your arguments on a future trade deal with the usa and should be happy that it may not happen( but we all know it will at sometime) as you have been opposed to it from the start.Personally i dont care, i hold my hope on joining the transpacific deal.Japan is done australia nz not far away and J trudeau coming out and saying he cant see a problem with a canada uk deal soon.once they are done it should be easy ."‘Should’ ? Who are our 2 largest trading partners? | |||
"The question is why? Thoughts?probably because its not a good idea to comment on another countries election while its going on,just like putin,macron,merkle etc.
Do you think he will ever have the balls to criticise Trumps behaviour once Biden has been confirmed as President? He has a lot of arse licking to do in the new year so it might help if he started ASAP well that wasn't the question on the op which has been answered,why didn't you just start with what you really wanted to say.
I just said it. I don’t expect Boris to comment on election just yet but Biden winning is a disaster for him and his Brexit strategy. Boris openly criticised Obama’s anti brexit stance by claiming had an “ancestral dislike” of the British empire because he was a “part-Kenyan president. Do you think Biden has forgotten that comment? Biden is also a strong advocate of protecting the GFA which Brexit is in danger of weakening . Of course, Biden is a supporter of a united ireland he made no secret of that in the past posing for pics with members of the ira.But i think you are very much mistaken if you think him winning is going to affect brexit but i guess you can hang onto that thread of hope for a little while.
Trump was incredibly pro Brexit..for obvious reasons.
Biden was heavily against it.
Its bound to have an impact on the talks.you keep hanging on to that.
I couldn't give a toss but it would be incredibly naive to think it hasn't had an impact
The fact is pelosi got it wrong that the internal market bill would impact on the gfa infact it holds it up.
The Government’s UK Internal Market Bill is needed to maintain the free flow of trade across the United Kingdom
To prevent this would be contrary to the 1800 Act of Union between Great Britain and Ireland and 1707 Articles of Union between England and Scotland
The Withdrawal Agreement would clearly alter the constitutional status of Northern Ireland within the UK
It would amount to a major breach of the core principle of the Belfast (Good Friday) Agreement
According to the GFA, NI’s constitutional status cannot be changed without the consent of the people of Northern Ireland.
Most people in Northern Ireland would be more concerned about the free flow of trade than the Good Friday Agreement. It is the free flow of trade that keeps the Northern Ireland economy going, not the GFA.
If there has been any doubt that you do not understand the situation in Northern Ireland. This post has removed that doubt." | |||
"The question is why? Thoughts?probably because its not a good idea to comment on another countries election while its going on,just like putin,macron,merkle etc.
Do you think he will ever have the balls to criticise Trumps behaviour once Biden has been confirmed as President? He has a lot of arse licking to do in the new year so it might help if he started ASAP well that wasn't the question on the op which has been answered,why didn't you just start with what you really wanted to say.
I just said it. I don’t expect Boris to comment on election just yet but Biden winning is a disaster for him and his Brexit strategy. Boris openly criticised Obama’s anti brexit stance by claiming had an “ancestral dislike” of the British empire because he was a “part-Kenyan president. Do you think Biden has forgotten that comment? Biden is also a strong advocate of protecting the GFA which Brexit is in danger of weakening . Of course, Biden is a supporter of a united ireland he made no secret of that in the past posing for pics with members of the ira.But i think you are very much mistaken if you think him winning is going to affect brexit but i guess you can hang onto that thread of hope for a little while.
Trump was incredibly pro Brexit..for obvious reasons.
Biden was heavily against it.
Its bound to have an impact on the talks.you keep hanging on to that.
I couldn't give a toss but it would be incredibly naive to think it hasn't had an impact
The fact is pelosi got it wrong that the internal market bill would impact on the gfa infact it holds it up.
The Government’s UK Internal Market Bill is needed to maintain the free flow of trade across the United Kingdom
To prevent this would be contrary to the 1800 Act of Union between Great Britain and Ireland and 1707 Articles of Union between England and Scotland
The Withdrawal Agreement would clearly alter the constitutional status of Northern Ireland within the UK
It would amount to a major breach of the core principle of the Belfast (Good Friday) Agreement
According to the GFA, NI’s constitutional status cannot be changed without the consent of the people of Northern Ireland.
So, Pelosi and Biden are wrong , yet a bloke on a swinging site forum is correct ? You have to wake up to the fact that Biden is pro EU and anti brexit, if you don’t think that will effect a future trade deal with the US then you are deluded. "just a bloke on a swingers site that has done some research.
The EU’s Withdrawal Treaty requires the imposition of tariffs between the UK and Northern Ireland. As the distinguished barrister and EU law specialist Martin Howe wrote yesterday in [paywall] the Daily Telegraph:
“International law does not justify a later treaty to which these community representatives are not parties being used to over-ride the rights they enjoy under the earlier treaty, especially where it involves over-riding such a fundamental right as the right to self determination of the people of NI.”
“If there were any doubt that Parliament has this right, section 38 of the Withdrawal Agreement Act preserves Parliamentary sovereignty and makes it quite clear that Parliament has the right to pass the clauses which the government is proposing and thereby override these errant clauses in the Protocol.
you can do your own research too for a counter argument but it seems its the eu that wants to break the gfa not the uk.  | |||
"The question is why? Thoughts?probably because its not a good idea to comment on another countries election while its going on,just like putin,macron,merkle etc.
Do you think he will ever have the balls to criticise Trumps behaviour once Biden has been confirmed as President? He has a lot of arse licking to do in the new year so it might help if he started ASAP well that wasn't the question on the op which has been answered,why didn't you just start with what you really wanted to say.
I just said it. I don’t expect Boris to comment on election just yet but Biden winning is a disaster for him and his Brexit strategy. Boris openly criticised Obama’s anti brexit stance by claiming had an “ancestral dislike” of the British empire because he was a “part-Kenyan president. Do you think Biden has forgotten that comment? Biden is also a strong advocate of protecting the GFA which Brexit is in danger of weakening . Of course, Biden is a supporter of a united ireland he made no secret of that in the past posing for pics with members of the ira.But i think you are very much mistaken if you think him winning is going to affect brexit but i guess you can hang onto that thread of hope for a little while.
Trump was incredibly pro Brexit..for obvious reasons.
Biden was heavily against it.
Its bound to have an impact on the talks.you keep hanging on to that.
I couldn't give a toss but it would be incredibly naive to think it hasn't had an impact
The fact is pelosi got it wrong that the internal market bill would impact on the gfa infact it holds it up.
The Government’s UK Internal Market Bill is needed to maintain the free flow of trade across the United Kingdom
To prevent this would be contrary to the 1800 Act of Union between Great Britain and Ireland and 1707 Articles of Union between England and Scotland
The Withdrawal Agreement would clearly alter the constitutional status of Northern Ireland within the UK
It would amount to a major breach of the core principle of the Belfast (Good Friday) Agreement
According to the GFA, NI’s constitutional status cannot be changed without the consent of the people of Northern Ireland.
So, Pelosi and Biden are wrong , yet a bloke on a swinging site forum is correct ? You have to wake up to the fact that Biden is pro EU and anti brexit, if you don’t think that will effect a future trade deal with the US then you are deluded. just a bloke on a swingers site that has done some research.
The EU’s Withdrawal Treaty requires the imposition of tariffs between the UK and Northern Ireland. As the distinguished barrister and EU law specialist Martin Howe wrote yesterday in [paywall] the Daily Telegraph:
“International law does not justify a later treaty to which these community representatives are not parties being used to over-ride the rights they enjoy under the earlier treaty, especially where it involves over-riding such a fundamental right as the right to self determination of the people of NI.”
“If there were any doubt that Parliament has this right, section 38 of the Withdrawal Agreement Act preserves Parliamentary sovereignty and makes it quite clear that Parliament has the right to pass the clauses which the government is proposing and thereby override these errant clauses in the Protocol.
you can do your own research too for a counter argument but it seems its the eu that wants to break the gfa not the uk. "You can do all the research you like but let’s be honest, your opinion is irrelevant , the people that really matter, i e Pelosi & Biden don’t agree . Maybe you can write to them and explain why they are wrong | |||
"The question is why? Thoughts?probably because its not a good idea to comment on another countries election while its going on,just like putin,macron,merkle etc.
Do you think he will ever have the balls to criticise Trumps behaviour once Biden has been confirmed as President? He has a lot of arse licking to do in the new year so it might help if he started ASAP well that wasn't the question on the op which has been answered,why didn't you just start with what you really wanted to say.
I just said it. I don’t expect Boris to comment on election just yet but Biden winning is a disaster for him and his Brexit strategy. Boris openly criticised Obama’s anti brexit stance by claiming had an “ancestral dislike” of the British empire because he was a “part-Kenyan president. Do you think Biden has forgotten that comment? Biden is also a strong advocate of protecting the GFA which Brexit is in danger of weakening . Of course, Biden is a supporter of a united ireland he made no secret of that in the past posing for pics with members of the ira.But i think you are very much mistaken if you think him winning is going to affect brexit but i guess you can hang onto that thread of hope for a little while.
Trump was incredibly pro Brexit..for obvious reasons.
Biden was heavily against it.
Its bound to have an impact on the talks.you keep hanging on to that.
I couldn't give a toss but it would be incredibly naive to think it hasn't had an impact
The fact is pelosi got it wrong that the internal market bill would impact on the gfa infact it holds it up.
The Government’s UK Internal Market Bill is needed to maintain the free flow of trade across the United Kingdom
To prevent this would be contrary to the 1800 Act of Union between Great Britain and Ireland and 1707 Articles of Union between England and Scotland
The Withdrawal Agreement would clearly alter the constitutional status of Northern Ireland within the UK
It would amount to a major breach of the core principle of the Belfast (Good Friday) Agreement
According to the GFA, NI’s constitutional status cannot be changed without the consent of the people of Northern Ireland.
So, Pelosi and Biden are wrong , yet a bloke on a swinging site forum is correct ? You have to wake up to the fact that Biden is pro EU and anti brexit, if you don’t think that will effect a future trade deal with the US then you are deluded. just a bloke on a swingers site that has done some research.
The EU’s Withdrawal Treaty requires the imposition of tariffs between the UK and Northern Ireland. As the distinguished barrister and EU law specialist Martin Howe wrote yesterday in [paywall] the Daily Telegraph:
“International law does not justify a later treaty to which these community representatives are not parties being used to over-ride the rights they enjoy under the earlier treaty, especially where it involves over-riding such a fundamental right as the right to self determination of the people of NI.”
“If there were any doubt that Parliament has this right, section 38 of the Withdrawal Agreement Act preserves Parliamentary sovereignty and makes it quite clear that Parliament has the right to pass the clauses which the government is proposing and thereby override these errant clauses in the Protocol.
you can do your own research too for a counter argument but it seems its the eu that wants to break the gfa not the uk.
You can do all the research you like but let’s be honest, your opinion is irrelevant , the people that really matter, i e Pelosi & Biden don’t agree . Maybe you can write to them and explain why they are wrong "Im sure once biden gets elected his team will explain the details to him as im sure half way through an election he didnt have time to read all the gfa and the eu withdrawl treaty.Probably just listerned to a few soundbits coming from the eu like a lot of people. | |||
"The question is why? Thoughts?probably because its not a good idea to comment on another countries election while its going on,just like putin,macron,merkle etc.
Do you think he will ever have the balls to criticise Trumps behaviour once Biden has been confirmed as President? He has a lot of arse licking to do in the new year so it might help if he started ASAP well that wasn't the question on the op which has been answered,why didn't you just start with what you really wanted to say.
I just said it. I don’t expect Boris to comment on election just yet but Biden winning is a disaster for him and his Brexit strategy. Boris openly criticised Obama’s anti brexit stance by claiming had an “ancestral dislike” of the British empire because he was a “part-Kenyan president. Do you think Biden has forgotten that comment? Biden is also a strong advocate of protecting the GFA which Brexit is in danger of weakening . Of course, Biden is a supporter of a united ireland he made no secret of that in the past posing for pics with members of the ira.But i think you are very much mistaken if you think him winning is going to affect brexit but i guess you can hang onto that thread of hope for a little while.
Trump was incredibly pro Brexit..for obvious reasons.
Biden was heavily against it.
Its bound to have an impact on the talks.you keep hanging on to that.
I couldn't give a toss but it would be incredibly naive to think it hasn't had an impact
The fact is pelosi got it wrong that the internal market bill would impact on the gfa infact it holds it up.
The Government’s UK Internal Market Bill is needed to maintain the free flow of trade across the United Kingdom
To prevent this would be contrary to the 1800 Act of Union between Great Britain and Ireland and 1707 Articles of Union between England and Scotland
The Withdrawal Agreement would clearly alter the constitutional status of Northern Ireland within the UK
It would amount to a major breach of the core principle of the Belfast (Good Friday) Agreement
According to the GFA, NI’s constitutional status cannot be changed without the consent of the people of Northern Ireland.
So, Pelosi and Biden are wrong , yet a bloke on a swinging site forum is correct ? You have to wake up to the fact that Biden is pro EU and anti brexit, if you don’t think that will effect a future trade deal with the US then you are deluded. just a bloke on a swingers site that has done some research.
The EU’s Withdrawal Treaty requires the imposition of tariffs between the UK and Northern Ireland. As the distinguished barrister and EU law specialist Martin Howe wrote yesterday in [paywall] the Daily Telegraph:
“International law does not justify a later treaty to which these community representatives are not parties being used to over-ride the rights they enjoy under the earlier treaty, especially where it involves over-riding such a fundamental right as the right to self determination of the people of NI.”
“If there were any doubt that Parliament has this right, section 38 of the Withdrawal Agreement Act preserves Parliamentary sovereignty and makes it quite clear that Parliament has the right to pass the clauses which the government is proposing and thereby override these errant clauses in the Protocol.
you can do your own research too for a counter argument but it seems its the eu that wants to break the gfa not the uk.
You can do all the research you like but let’s be honest, your opinion is irrelevant , the people that really matter, i e Pelosi & Biden don’t agree . Maybe you can write to them and explain why they are wrong Im sure once biden gets elected his team will explain the details to him as im sure half way through an election he didnt have time to read all the gfa and the eu withdrawl treaty.Probably just listerned to a few soundbits coming from the eu like a lot of people."Haha, of course that will happen. Let’s park the GFA for the time being, as Biden is Pro EU and anti Brexit can you explain how this won’t affect a future trade deal between the UK and the US? Can you remind me who are 2 largest trading partners are? | |||
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"The question is why? Thoughts?probably because its not a good idea to comment on another countries election while its going on,just like putin,macron,merkle etc.
Do you think he will ever have the balls to criticise Trumps behaviour once Biden has been confirmed as President? He has a lot of arse licking to do in the new year so it might help if he started ASAP well that wasn't the question on the op which has been answered,why didn't you just start with what you really wanted to say.
I just said it. I don’t expect Boris to comment on election just yet but Biden winning is a disaster for him and his Brexit strategy. Boris openly criticised Obama’s anti brexit stance by claiming had an “ancestral dislike” of the British empire because he was a “part-Kenyan president. Do you think Biden has forgotten that comment? Biden is also a strong advocate of protecting the GFA which Brexit is in danger of weakening . Of course, Biden is a supporter of a united ireland he made no secret of that in the past posing for pics with members of the ira.But i think you are very much mistaken if you think him winning is going to affect brexit but i guess you can hang onto that thread of hope for a little while.
Trump was incredibly pro Brexit..for obvious reasons.
Biden was heavily against it.
Its bound to have an impact on the talks.you keep hanging on to that.
I couldn't give a toss but it would be incredibly naive to think it hasn't had an impact
The fact is pelosi got it wrong that the internal market bill would impact on the gfa infact it holds it up.
The Government’s UK Internal Market Bill is needed to maintain the free flow of trade across the United Kingdom
To prevent this would be contrary to the 1800 Act of Union between Great Britain and Ireland and 1707 Articles of Union between England and Scotland
The Withdrawal Agreement would clearly alter the constitutional status of Northern Ireland within the UK
It would amount to a major breach of the core principle of the Belfast (Good Friday) Agreement
According to the GFA, NI’s constitutional status cannot be changed without the consent of the people of Northern Ireland.
So, Pelosi and Biden are wrong , yet a bloke on a swinging site forum is correct ? You have to wake up to the fact that Biden is pro EU and anti brexit, if you don’t think that will effect a future trade deal with the US then you are deluded. just a bloke on a swingers site that has done some research.
The EU’s Withdrawal Treaty requires the imposition of tariffs between the UK and Northern Ireland. As the distinguished barrister and EU law specialist Martin Howe wrote yesterday in [paywall] the Daily Telegraph:
“International law does not justify a later treaty to which these community representatives are not parties being used to over-ride the rights they enjoy under the earlier treaty, especially where it involves over-riding such a fundamental right as the right to self determination of the people of NI.”
“If there were any doubt that Parliament has this right, section 38 of the Withdrawal Agreement Act preserves Parliamentary sovereignty and makes it quite clear that Parliament has the right to pass the clauses which the government is proposing and thereby override these errant clauses in the Protocol.
you can do your own research too for a counter argument but it seems its the eu that wants to break the gfa not the uk.
You can do all the research you like but let’s be honest, your opinion is irrelevant , the people that really matter, i e Pelosi & Biden don’t agree . Maybe you can write to them and explain why they are wrong Im sure once biden gets elected his team will explain the details to him as im sure half way through an election he didnt have time to read all the gfa and the eu withdrawl treaty.Probably just listerned to a few soundbits coming from the eu like a lot of people.
Haha, of course that will happen. Let’s park the GFA for the time being, as Biden is Pro EU and anti Brexit can you explain how this won’t affect a future trade deal between the UK and the US? Can you remind me who are 2 largest trading partners are? "i cant of course im not a trade minister can you tell me that we will not be trading with these two next year? | |||
"There is an incomprehensible yet unsurprising level of ignorance in this thread. All I can do is slowly shake my head. " It is staggeringly predictable I am afraid. | |||
"There is an incomprehensible yet unsurprising level of ignorance in this thread. All I can do is slowly shake my head. It is staggeringly predictable I am afraid. " The facts are there to see wheres the counter argument? not seen one yet. | |||
"The question is why? Thoughts? Surprising isn’t it for a country that holds all the cards and that is about to be ruling the world again! You can’t expect the poodle to wag the tail at the moment. We’ve got more important issues to discuss. Much easier to demonise the few dozens of migrants crossing the Channel than telling Trump to grow up. " why should blowjob tell trump to grow up it’s the USA election not ours ? | |||
"There is an incomprehensible yet unsurprising level of ignorance in this thread. All I can do is slowly shake my head. It is staggeringly predictable I am afraid. The facts are there to see wheres the counter argument? not seen one yet. "I don’t need one as my opinion is as invalid as yours. I will follow the opinions of Biden and Pelosi on this one , after all, they are more relevant than we are | |||
"The question is why? Thoughts?probably because its not a good idea to comment on another countries election while its going on,just like putin,macron,merkle etc.
Do you think he will ever have the balls to criticise Trumps behaviour once Biden has been confirmed as President? He has a lot of arse licking to do in the new year so it might help if he started ASAP well that wasn't the question on the op which has been answered,why didn't you just start with what you really wanted to say.
I just said it. I don’t expect Boris to comment on election just yet but Biden winning is a disaster for him and his Brexit strategy. Boris openly criticised Obama’s anti brexit stance by claiming had an “ancestral dislike” of the British empire because he was a “part-Kenyan president. Do you think Biden has forgotten that comment? Biden is also a strong advocate of protecting the GFA which Brexit is in danger of weakening . Of course, Biden is a supporter of a united ireland he made no secret of that in the past posing for pics with members of the ira.But i think you are very much mistaken if you think him winning is going to affect brexit but i guess you can hang onto that thread of hope for a little while.
Trump was incredibly pro Brexit..for obvious reasons.
Biden was heavily against it.
Its bound to have an impact on the talks.you keep hanging on to that.
I couldn't give a toss but it would be incredibly naive to think it hasn't had an impact
The fact is pelosi got it wrong that the internal market bill would impact on the gfa infact it holds it up.
The Government’s UK Internal Market Bill is needed to maintain the free flow of trade across the United Kingdom
To prevent this would be contrary to the 1800 Act of Union between Great Britain and Ireland and 1707 Articles of Union between England and Scotland
The Withdrawal Agreement would clearly alter the constitutional status of Northern Ireland within the UK
It would amount to a major breach of the core principle of the Belfast (Good Friday) Agreement
According to the GFA, NI’s constitutional status cannot be changed without the consent of the people of Northern Ireland.
So, Pelosi and Biden are wrong , yet a bloke on a swinging site forum is correct ? You have to wake up to the fact that Biden is pro EU and anti brexit, if you don’t think that will effect a future trade deal with the US then you are deluded. just a bloke on a swingers site that has done some research.
The EU’s Withdrawal Treaty requires the imposition of tariffs between the UK and Northern Ireland. As the distinguished barrister and EU law specialist Martin Howe wrote yesterday in [paywall] the Daily Telegraph:
“International law does not justify a later treaty to which these community representatives are not parties being used to over-ride the rights they enjoy under the earlier treaty, especially where it involves over-riding such a fundamental right as the right to self determination of the people of NI.”
“If there were any doubt that Parliament has this right, section 38 of the Withdrawal Agreement Act preserves Parliamentary sovereignty and makes it quite clear that Parliament has the right to pass the clauses which the government is proposing and thereby override these errant clauses in the Protocol.
you can do your own research too for a counter argument but it seems its the eu that wants to break the gfa not the uk.
You can do all the research you like but let’s be honest, your opinion is irrelevant , the people that really matter, i e Pelosi & Biden don’t agree . Maybe you can write to them and explain why they are wrong Im sure once biden gets elected his team will explain the details to him as im sure half way through an election he didnt have time to read all the gfa and the eu withdrawl treaty.Probably just listerned to a few soundbits coming from the eu like a lot of people.
Haha, of course that will happen. Let’s park the GFA for the time being, as Biden is Pro EU and anti Brexit can you explain how this won’t affect a future trade deal between the UK and the US? Can you remind me who are 2 largest trading partners are? i cant of course im not a trade minister can you tell me that we will not be trading with these two next year?"It is the EU and the USA . Of course we will still be trading with them but will it be on better or worse terms than we had in the EU? | |||
"There is an incomprehensible yet unsurprising level of ignorance in this thread. All I can do is slowly shake my head. It is staggeringly predictable I am afraid. The facts are there to see wheres the counter argument? not seen one yet.
I don’t need one as my opinion is as invalid as yours. I will follow the opinions of Biden and Pelosi on this one , after all, they are more relevant than we are "you obviously missed this so will post it again. The Government’s UK Internal Market Bill is needed to maintain the free flow of trade across the United Kingdom To prevent this would be contrary to the 1800 Act of Union between Great Britain and Ireland and 1707 Articles of Union between England and Scotland The Withdrawal Agreement would clearly alter the constitutional status of Northern Ireland within the UK It would amount to a major breach of the core principle of the Belfast (Good Friday) Agreement According to the GFA, NI’s constitutional status cannot be changed without the consent of the people of Northern Ireland The EU’s Withdrawal Treaty requires the imposition of tariffs between the UK and Northern Ireland. As the distinguished barrister and EU law specialist Martin Howe wrote yesterday in [paywall] the Daily Telegraph: “International law does not justify a later treaty to which these community representatives are not parties being used to over-ride the rights they enjoy under the earlier treaty, especially where it involves over-riding such a fundamental right as the right to self determination of the people of NI.” “If there were any doubt that Parliament has this right, section 38 of the Withdrawal Agreement Act preserves Parliamentary sovereignty and makes it quite clear that Parliament has the right to pass the clauses which the government is proposing and thereby override these errant clauses in the Protocol.” not my opinion as you put it but fact. | |||
"There is an incomprehensible yet unsurprising level of ignorance in this thread. All I can do is slowly shake my head. It is staggeringly predictable I am afraid. The facts are there to see wheres the counter argument? not seen one yet.
I don’t need one as my opinion is as invalid as yours. I will follow the opinions of Biden and Pelosi on this one , after all, they are more relevant than we are you obviously missed this so will post it again.
The Government’s UK Internal Market Bill is needed to maintain the free flow of trade across the United Kingdom
To prevent this would be contrary to the 1800 Act of Union between Great Britain and Ireland and 1707 Articles of Union between England and Scotland
The Withdrawal Agreement would clearly alter the constitutional status of Northern Ireland within the UK
It would amount to a major breach of the core principle of the Belfast (Good Friday) Agreement
According to the GFA, NI’s constitutional status cannot be changed without the consent of the people of Northern Ireland
The EU’s Withdrawal Treaty requires the imposition of tariffs between the UK and Northern Ireland. As the distinguished barrister and EU law specialist Martin Howe wrote yesterday in [paywall] the Daily Telegraph:
“International law does not justify a later treaty to which these community representatives are not parties being used to over-ride the rights they enjoy under the earlier treaty, especially where it involves over-riding such a fundamental right as the right to self determination of the people of NI.”
“If there were any doubt that Parliament has this right, section 38 of the Withdrawal Agreement Act preserves Parliamentary sovereignty and makes it quite clear that Parliament has the right to pass the clauses which the government is proposing and thereby override these errant clauses in the Protocol.”
not my opinion as you put it but fact."Ok, it is ‘fact’ , Pelosi got it wrong, Biden got it wrong, unless they change their minds it is still irrelevant, after all, politicians often ignore facts when it suits? | |||
"There is an incomprehensible yet unsurprising level of ignorance in this thread. All I can do is slowly shake my head. It is staggeringly predictable I am afraid. The facts are there to see wheres the counter argument? not seen one yet.
I don’t need one as my opinion is as invalid as yours. I will follow the opinions of Biden and Pelosi on this one , after all, they are more relevant than we are you obviously missed this so will post it again.
The Government’s UK Internal Market Bill is needed to maintain the free flow of trade across the United Kingdom
To prevent this would be contrary to the 1800 Act of Union between Great Britain and Ireland and 1707 Articles of Union between England and Scotland
The Withdrawal Agreement would clearly alter the constitutional status of Northern Ireland within the UK
It would amount to a major breach of the core principle of the Belfast (Good Friday) Agreement
According to the GFA, NI’s constitutional status cannot be changed without the consent of the people of Northern Ireland
The EU’s Withdrawal Treaty requires the imposition of tariffs between the UK and Northern Ireland. As the distinguished barrister and EU law specialist Martin Howe wrote yesterday in [paywall] the Daily Telegraph:
“International law does not justify a later treaty to which these community representatives are not parties being used to over-ride the rights they enjoy under the earlier treaty, especially where it involves over-riding such a fundamental right as the right to self determination of the people of NI.”
“If there were any doubt that Parliament has this right, section 38 of the Withdrawal Agreement Act preserves Parliamentary sovereignty and makes it quite clear that Parliament has the right to pass the clauses which the government is proposing and thereby override these errant clauses in the Protocol.”
not my opinion as you put it but fact.
Ok, it is ‘fact’ , Pelosi got it wrong, Biden got it wrong, unless they change their minds it is still irrelevant, after all, politicians often ignore facts when it suits? "now that i do agree with you. | |||
"There is an incomprehensible yet unsurprising level of ignorance in this thread. All I can do is slowly shake my head. It is staggeringly predictable I am afraid. The facts are there to see wheres the counter argument? not seen one yet. "I'm not getting into it, there's too much bullshit and idiocy to unpack. I'm placing more value on my own equanimity today than attempt rebut, refute and dispel the claims made above. | |||
"There is an incomprehensible yet unsurprising level of ignorance in this thread. All I can do is slowly shake my head. It is staggeringly predictable I am afraid. The facts are there to see wheres the counter argument? not seen one yet.
I'm not getting into it, there's too much bullshit and idiocy to unpack. I'm placing more value on my own equanimity today than attempt rebut, refute and dispel the claims made above. "yeah take a day off mate i am now too footballs on. | |||
"V. Simple you don't comment on other countries elections it's called diplomacy. You then only congratulate the winner when the result has been confirmed which it hasn't. Nothing strange just the way it's always been." Diplomacy never stopped boris before. | |||
"The question is why? Thoughts?" Maybe because he has finally realised that nothing he says about anything improves matters in any way? | |||
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"And glad that it looks like Biden has won. Great that the EU will have Boris over a barrel now. He won't have is pal trump now. " The EU had us over a barrel anyway. No change. | |||
"And glad that it looks like Biden has won. Great that the EU will have Boris over a barrel now. He won't have is pal trump now. " Won't make any difference but why on earth would you want the EU to have the UK over a barrel? | |||
"And glad that it looks like Biden has won. Great that the EU will have Boris over a barrel now. He won't have is pal trump now. The EU had us over a barrel anyway. No change." Wrong again | |||
"And glad that it looks like Biden has won. Great that the EU will have Boris over a barrel now. He won't have is pal trump now. Won't make any difference but why on earth would you want the EU to have the UK over a barrel? " Because Brexit is a bad idea and and it might mean we are kept closer to the EU. | |||
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"And glad that it looks like Biden has won. Great that the EU will have Boris over a barrel now. He won't have is pal trump now. Won't make any difference but why on earth would you want the EU to have the UK over a barrel? Because Brexit is a bad idea and and it might mean we are kept closer to the EU. " Brexit is the best thing this country has done for years and I'm not sure what you mean by closer to the EU | |||
"And glad that it looks like Biden has won. Great that the EU will have Boris over a barrel now. He won't have is pal trump now. Won't make any difference but why on earth would you want the EU to have the UK over a barrel? Because Brexit is a bad idea and and it might mean we are kept closer to the EU. Brexit is the best thing this country has done for years and I'm not sure what you mean by closer to the EU " Its not the best thing as a lot of business relies doing trade with the EU with out the need of any red tape which adds extra cost. It has worked for lots if years it's just all these little Englanders that wanted Brexit and what meant was perhaps it will keep us close to the EU as Boris will not have is mate now in the US who is Anti EU. We're as Biden is pro EU. | |||
"Bad day for the deluded brexiters and for Blondie, the false brexiter. " or bad day for the brexitiers no need for the deluded you can post without insults mate I know this because I have seen you do one | |||
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"As the leaders of countries send their congratulations to Biden, and kier Starmer too.. Boris is quiet.. What a conundrum for him.." Class and dignity | |||
"And glad that it looks like Biden has won. Great that the EU will have Boris over a barrel now. He won't have is pal trump now. Won't make any difference but why on earth would you want the EU to have the UK over a barrel? Because Brexit is a bad idea and and it might mean we are kept closer to the EU. Brexit is the best thing this country has done for years and I'm not sure what you mean by closer to the EU " Can you.provide some factual evidence for that 1st point | |||
"And glad that it looks like Biden has won. Great that the EU will have Boris over a barrel now. He won't have is pal trump now. Won't make any difference but why on earth would you want the EU to have the UK over a barrel? Because Brexit is a bad idea and and it might mean we are kept closer to the EU. Brexit is the best thing this country has done for years and I'm not sure what you mean by closer to the EU " Lol Mega lol. You may as well have posted "never take anything I say seriously". | |||
"As the leaders of countries send their congratulations to Biden, and kier Starmer too.. Boris is quiet.. What a conundrum for him.." ”Congratulations to Joe Biden on his election as President of the United States and to Kamala Harris on her historic achievement. The US is our most important ally and I look forward to working closely together on our shared priorities from climate change to trade and security.” 30mins ago | |||
"And glad that it looks like Biden has won. Great that the EU will have Boris over a barrel now. He won't have is pal trump now. Won't make any difference but why on earth would you want the EU to have the UK over a barrel? Because Brexit is a bad idea and and it might mean we are kept closer to the EU. Brexit is the best thing this country has done for years and I'm not sure what you mean by closer to the EU Can you.provide some factual evidence for that 1st point " Not yet obviously. Can you provide any factual evidence that remaining in the EU would have been better? | |||
"As the leaders of countries send their congratulations to Biden, and kier Starmer too.. Boris is quiet.. What a conundrum for him.. ”Congratulations to Joe Biden on his election as President of the United States and to Kamala Harris on her historic achievement. The US is our most important ally and I look forward to working closely together on our shared priorities from climate change to trade and security.” 30mins ago "Behind Starmer.. | |||
"And glad that it looks like Biden has won. Great that the EU will have Boris over a barrel now. He won't have is pal trump now. Won't make any difference but why on earth would you want the EU to have the UK over a barrel? Because Brexit is a bad idea and and it might mean we are kept closer to the EU. Brexit is the best thing this country has done for years and I'm not sure what you mean by closer to the EU Lol Mega lol. You may as well have posted "never take anything I say seriously"." But the majority of people who voted on the issue would probably agree with me. Funny that eh | |||
"And glad that it looks like Biden has won. Great that the EU will have Boris over a barrel now. He won't have is pal trump now. Won't make any difference but why on earth would you want the EU to have the UK over a barrel? Because Brexit is a bad idea and and it might mean we are kept closer to the EU. Brexit is the best thing this country has done for years and I'm not sure what you mean by closer to the EU Can you.provide some factual evidence for that 1st point Not yet obviously. Can you provide any factual evidence that remaining in the EU would have been better? " No customs costs! 270m entries according to HMRC No investment money leaving London which in tax take exceeds the savings on paying into the EU. Free access to the biggest market in the world. But hey USA will save us!! FFS Two facts ?? | |||
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"are people now predicting a trade deal between US and EU? " They already have one . | |||
"are people now predicting a trade deal between US and EU? They already have one . " a full trade deal? if so why did we trade with the US under WTO rules when we were EU members | |||
"And glad that it looks like Biden has won. Great that the EU will have Boris over a barrel now. He won't have is pal trump now. Won't make any difference but why on earth would you want the EU to have the UK over a barrel? Because Brexit is a bad idea and and it might mean we are kept closer to the EU. Brexit is the best thing this country has done for years and I'm not sure what you mean by closer to the EU Can you.provide some factual evidence for that 1st point Not yet obviously. Can you provide any factual evidence that remaining in the EU would have been better? No customs costs! 270m entries according to HMRC No investment money leaving London which in tax take exceeds the savings on paying into the EU. Free access to the biggest market in the world. But hey USA will save us!! FFS Two facts ?? " No investment money leaving London? Pisser Maybe you missed the Germans saying how much they needed the investment money from the city of London last week | |||
"As the leaders of countries send their congratulations to Biden, and kier Starmer too.. Boris is quiet.. What a conundrum for him.. ”Congratulations to Joe Biden on his election as President of the United States and to Kamala Harris on her historic achievement. The US is our most important ally and I look forward to working closely together on our shared priorities from climate change to trade and security.” 30mins ago
Behind Starmer.. "... before Macron and Merkel  | |||
"And glad that it looks like Biden has won. Great that the EU will have Boris over a barrel now. He won't have is pal trump now. Won't make any difference but why on earth would you want the EU to have the UK over a barrel? Because Brexit is a bad idea and and it might mean we are kept closer to the EU. Brexit is the best thing this country has done for years and I'm not sure what you mean by closer to the EU Lol Mega lol. You may as well have posted "never take anything I say seriously". But the majority of people who voted on the issue would probably agree with me. Funny that eh" That's your evidence? Lol. Oh boy. Please post more. | |||
"And glad that it looks like Biden has won. Great that the EU will have Boris over a barrel now. He won't have is pal trump now. Won't make any difference but why on earth would you want the EU to have the UK over a barrel? Because Brexit is a bad idea and and it might mean we are kept closer to the EU. Brexit is the best thing this country has done for years and I'm not sure what you mean by closer to the EU Can you.provide some factual evidence for that 1st point Not yet obviously. Can you provide any factual evidence that remaining in the EU would have been better? " You were the one who made the statement | |||
"And glad that it looks like Biden has won. Great that the EU will have Boris over a barrel now. He won't have is pal trump now. Won't make any difference but why on earth would you want the EU to have the UK over a barrel? Because Brexit is a bad idea and and it might mean we are kept closer to the EU. Brexit is the best thing this country has done for years and I'm not sure what you mean by closer to the EU Lol Mega lol. You may as well have posted "never take anything I say seriously". But the majority of people who voted on the issue would probably agree with me. Funny that eh" The entire Brexit party would agree with you A ringing endorsement | |||
"The question is why? Thoughts?" He is shitting himself, he was relying on donald fucking him up the ass and getting a lovely reach around. Now he has to fuck biden and and guess what? No reach around. | |||
"The question is why? Thoughts? He is shitting himself, he was relying on donald fucking him up the ass and getting a lovely reach around. Now he has to fuck biden and and guess what? No reach around." ffs mate iv just spewed me tea up | |||
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"Starmer: Mr Biden's campaign was based on "decency, integrity, compassion and strength", which are "values that we in the United Kingdom share". A bit better than Boris’s platitude. " Starmer talking out of his arse there. WTF. Brexit Britain is none of those things. | |||
"And glad that it looks like Biden has won. Great that the EU will have Boris over a barrel now. He won't have is pal trump now. Won't make any difference but why on earth would you want the EU to have the UK over a barrel? Because Brexit is a bad idea and and it might mean we are kept closer to the EU. Brexit is the best thing this country has done for years and I'm not sure what you mean by closer to the EU Can you.provide some factual evidence for that 1st point Not yet obviously. Can you provide any factual evidence that remaining in the EU would have been better? No customs costs! 270m entries according to HMRC No investment money leaving London which in tax take exceeds the savings on paying into the EU. Free access to the biggest market in the world. But hey USA will save us!! FFS Two facts ?? " However being a member of the EU is not free. We pay for access to the so called free market. A lot of EU legislation has a very negative effect on entrepreneurs and the development of new ideas. Outside of the EU families may be up to £800 per annum better off which is a not insignificant saving. | |||
"As the leaders of countries send their congratulations to Biden, and kier Starmer too.. Boris is quiet.. What a conundrum for him.. ”Congratulations to Joe Biden on his election as President of the United States and to Kamala Harris on her historic achievement. The US is our most important ally and I look forward to working closely together on our shared priorities from climate change to trade and security.” 30mins ago
Behind Starmer..
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"And glad that it looks like Biden has won. Great that the EU will have Boris over a barrel now. He won't have is pal trump now. Won't make any difference but why on earth would you want the EU to have the UK over a barrel? Because Brexit is a bad idea and and it might mean we are kept closer to the EU. Brexit is the best thing this country has done for years and I'm not sure what you mean by closer to the EU Can you.provide some factual evidence for that 1st point Not yet obviously. Can you provide any factual evidence that remaining in the EU would have been better? No customs costs! 270m entries according to HMRC No investment money leaving London which in tax take exceeds the savings on paying into the EU. Free access to the biggest market in the world. But hey USA will save us!! FFS Two facts ?? However being a member of the EU is not free. We pay for access to the so called free market. A lot of EU legislation has a very negative effect on entrepreneurs and the development of new ideas. Outside of the EU families may be up to £800 per annum better off which is a not insignificant saving. " How much do you think it's cost thus far..? | |||
"And glad that it looks like Biden has won. Great that the EU will have Boris over a barrel now. He won't have is pal trump now. Won't make any difference but why on earth would you want the EU to have the UK over a barrel? Because Brexit is a bad idea and and it might mean we are kept closer to the EU. Brexit is the best thing this country has done for years and I'm not sure what you mean by closer to the EU Can you.provide some factual evidence for that 1st point Not yet obviously. Can you provide any factual evidence that remaining in the EU would have been better? No customs costs! 270m entries according to HMRC No investment money leaving London which in tax take exceeds the savings on paying into the EU. Free access to the biggest market in the world. But hey USA will save us!! FFS Two facts ?? However being a member of the EU is not free. We pay for access to the so called free market. A lot of EU legislation has a very negative effect on entrepreneurs and the development of new ideas. Outside of the EU families may be up to £800 per annum better off which is a not insignificant saving. " When are we getting this £800? | |||
"And glad that it looks like Biden has won. Great that the EU will have Boris over a barrel now. He won't have is pal trump now. Won't make any difference but why on earth would you want the EU to have the UK over a barrel? Because Brexit is a bad idea and and it might mean we are kept closer to the EU. Brexit is the best thing this country has done for years and I'm not sure what you mean by closer to the EU Can you.provide some factual evidence for that 1st point Not yet obviously. Can you provide any factual evidence that remaining in the EU would have been better? No customs costs! 270m entries according to HMRC No investment money leaving London which in tax take exceeds the savings on paying into the EU. Free access to the biggest market in the world. But hey USA will save us!! FFS Two facts ?? However being a member of the EU is not free. We pay for access to the so called free market. A lot of EU legislation has a very negative effect on entrepreneurs and the development of new ideas. Outside of the EU families may be up to £800 per annum better off which is a not insignificant saving. " Which ideas were stifled then ? | |||
"And glad that it looks like Biden has won. Great that the EU will have Boris over a barrel now. He won't have is pal trump now. Won't make any difference but why on earth would you want the EU to have the UK over a barrel? Because Brexit is a bad idea and and it might mean we are kept closer to the EU. Brexit is the best thing this country has done for years and I'm not sure what you mean by closer to the EU Can you.provide some factual evidence for that 1st point Not yet obviously. Can you provide any factual evidence that remaining in the EU would have been better? No customs costs! 270m entries according to HMRC No investment money leaving London which in tax take exceeds the savings on paying into the EU. Free access to the biggest market in the world. But hey USA will save us!! FFS Two facts ?? However being a member of the EU is not free. We pay for access to the so called free market. A lot of EU legislation has a very negative effect on entrepreneurs and the development of new ideas. Outside of the EU families may be up to £800 per annum better off which is a not insignificant saving. " When are we getting this £800? | |||
"And glad that it looks like Biden has won. Great that the EU will have Boris over a barrel now. He won't have is pal trump now. Won't make any difference but why on earth would you want the EU to have the UK over a barrel? Because Brexit is a bad idea and and it might mean we are kept closer to the EU. Brexit is the best thing this country has done for years and I'm not sure what you mean by closer to the EU Can you.provide some factual evidence for that 1st point Not yet obviously. Can you provide any factual evidence that remaining in the EU would have been better? No customs costs! 270m entries according to HMRC No investment money leaving London which in tax take exceeds the savings on paying into the EU. Free access to the biggest market in the world. But hey USA will save us!! FFS Two facts ?? However being a member of the EU is not free. We pay for access to the so called free market. A lot of EU legislation has a very negative effect on entrepreneurs and the development of new ideas. Outside of the EU families may be up to £800 per annum better off which is a not insignificant saving. When are we getting this £800?" Each unicorn poo is worth £800 | |||
"And glad that it looks like Biden has won. Great that the EU will have Boris over a barrel now. He won't have is pal trump now. Won't make any difference but why on earth would you want the EU to have the UK over a barrel? Because Brexit is a bad idea and and it might mean we are kept closer to the EU. Brexit is the best thing this country has done for years and I'm not sure what you mean by closer to the EU Can you.provide some factual evidence for that 1st point Not yet obviously. Can you provide any factual evidence that remaining in the EU would have been better? No customs costs! 270m entries according to HMRC No investment money leaving London which in tax take exceeds the savings on paying into the EU. Free access to the biggest market in the world. But hey USA will save us!! FFS Two facts ?? However being a member of the EU is not free. We pay for access to the so called free market. A lot of EU legislation has a very negative effect on entrepreneurs and the development of new ideas. Outside of the EU families may be up to £800 per annum better off which is a not insignificant saving. " Was this writ large on a bus? What is the source please Pat? | |||
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"And glad that it looks like Biden has won. Great that the EU will have Boris over a barrel now. He won't have is pal trump now. Won't make any difference but why on earth would you want the EU to have the UK over a barrel? Because Brexit is a bad idea and and it might mean we are kept closer to the EU. Brexit is the best thing this country has done for years and I'm not sure what you mean by closer to the EU Can you.provide some factual evidence for that 1st point Not yet obviously. Can you provide any factual evidence that remaining in the EU would have been better? No customs costs! 270m entries according to HMRC No investment money leaving London which in tax take exceeds the savings on paying into the EU. Free access to the biggest market in the world. But hey USA will save us!! FFS Two facts ?? However being a member of the EU is not free. We pay for access to the so called free market. A lot of EU legislation has a very negative effect on entrepreneurs and the development of new ideas. Outside of the EU families may be up to £800 per annum better off which is a not insignificant saving. " Where do you get your magic mushrooms from? Even Farage didn’t manage to promise that much. | |||
"And glad that it looks like Biden has won. Great that the EU will have Boris over a barrel now. He won't have is pal trump now. Won't make any difference but why on earth would you want the EU to have the UK over a barrel? Because Brexit is a bad idea and and it might mean we are kept closer to the EU. Brexit is the best thing this country has done for years and I'm not sure what you mean by closer to the EU Can you.provide some factual evidence for that 1st point Not yet obviously. Can you provide any factual evidence that remaining in the EU would have been better? No customs costs! 270m entries according to HMRC No investment money leaving London which in tax take exceeds the savings on paying into the EU. Free access to the biggest market in the world. But hey USA will save us!! FFS Two facts ?? However being a member of the EU is not free. We pay for access to the so called free market. A lot of EU legislation has a very negative effect on entrepreneurs and the development of new ideas. Outside of the EU families may be up to £800 per annum better off which is a not insignificant saving. Was this writ large on a bus? What is the source please Pat?" I googled hard to try and find which alt right propaganda site this was from. The closest I could find was an article in the times that says the economy is currently £800m a week worse off. Maybe that's the source of confusion. Annual effect on households, I could find various figures, such as we would be £400 worse off. Alas, no sources suggesting we would be better off, or the economy would be better off. I'm calling bullshit on it. | |||
"And glad that it looks like Biden has won. Great that the EU will have Boris over a barrel now. He won't have is pal trump now. Won't make any difference but why on earth would you want the EU to have the UK over a barrel? Because Brexit is a bad idea and and it might mean we are kept closer to the EU. Brexit is the best thing this country has done for years and I'm not sure what you mean by closer to the EU Can you.provide some factual evidence for that 1st point Not yet obviously. Can you provide any factual evidence that remaining in the EU would have been better? No customs costs! 270m entries according to HMRC No investment money leaving London which in tax take exceeds the savings on paying into the EU. Free access to the biggest market in the world. But hey USA will save us!! FFS Two facts ?? However being a member of the EU is not free. We pay for access to the so called free market. A lot of EU legislation has a very negative effect on entrepreneurs and the development of new ideas. Outside of the EU families may be up to £800 per annum better off which is a not insignificant saving. Was this writ large on a bus? What is the source please Pat? I googled hard to try and find which alt right propaganda site this was from. The closest I could find was an article in the times that says the economy is currently £800m a week worse off. Maybe that's the source of confusion. Annual effect on households, I could find various figures, such as we would be £400 worse off. Alas, no sources suggesting we would be better off, or the economy would be better off. I'm calling bullshit on it." It's Pat.. It's possible your right.. | |||
"And glad that it looks like Biden has won. Great that the EU will have Boris over a barrel now. He won't have is pal trump now. Won't make any difference but why on earth would you want the EU to have the UK over a barrel? Because Brexit is a bad idea and and it might mean we are kept closer to the EU. Brexit is the best thing this country has done for years and I'm not sure what you mean by closer to the EU Can you.provide some factual evidence for that 1st point Not yet obviously. Can you provide any factual evidence that remaining in the EU would have been better? No customs costs! 270m entries according to HMRC No investment money leaving London which in tax take exceeds the savings on paying into the EU. Free access to the biggest market in the world. But hey USA will save us!! FFS Two facts ?? However being a member of the EU is not free. We pay for access to the so called free market. A lot of EU legislation has a very negative effect on entrepreneurs and the development of new ideas. Outside of the EU families may be up to £800 per annum better off which is a not insignificant saving. Was this writ large on a bus? What is the source please Pat? I googled hard to try and find which alt right propaganda site this was from. The closest I could find was an article in the times that says the economy is currently £800m a week worse off. Maybe that's the source of confusion. Annual effect on households, I could find various figures, such as we would be £400 worse off. Alas, no sources suggesting we would be better off, or the economy would be better off. I'm calling bullshit on it." Cant see that. The op is normally bang on the money | |||
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"And glad that it looks like Biden has won. Great that the EU will have Boris over a barrel now. He won't have is pal trump now. Won't make any difference but why on earth would you want the EU to have the UK over a barrel? Because Brexit is a bad idea and and it might mean we are kept closer to the EU. Brexit is the best thing this country has done for years and I'm not sure what you mean by closer to the EU Lol Mega lol. You may as well have posted "never take anything I say seriously". But the majority of people who voted on the issue would probably agree with me. Funny that eh The entire Brexit party would agree with you A ringing endorsement " You confuse me with your stance on Brexit. Real socialists are against EU membership and the old Labour Party who at least stood for the working class were always against EEC/EU membership and campaigned to get out. What are you? A champagne socialist? | |||
"And glad that it looks like Biden has won. Great that the EU will have Boris over a barrel now. He won't have is pal trump now. Won't make any difference but why on earth would you want the EU to have the UK over a barrel? Because Brexit is a bad idea and and it might mean we are kept closer to the EU. Brexit is the best thing this country has done for years and I'm not sure what you mean by closer to the EU Lol Mega lol. You may as well have posted "never take anything I say seriously". But the majority of people who voted on the issue would probably agree with me. Funny that eh The entire Brexit party would agree with you A ringing endorsement You confuse me with your stance on Brexit. Real socialists are against EU membership and the old Labour Party who at least stood for the working class were always against EEC/EU membership and campaigned to get out. What are you? A champagne socialist? " What’s your problem with champagne socialists? Are you a white van Conservative? | |||
"Direct copy and paste from "Briefings for Britain". An alt right pro brexit conspiracy heavy website. Do you believe what you read on there? That's absolutely fascinating if so. Do you know who runs this site and what their agenda is? " He won't. such things are immaterial.. | |||
"And glad that it looks like Biden has won. Great that the EU will have Boris over a barrel now. He won't have is pal trump now. Won't make any difference but why on earth would you want the EU to have the UK over a barrel? Because Brexit is a bad idea and and it might mean we are kept closer to the EU. Brexit is the best thing this country has done for years and I'm not sure what you mean by closer to the EU Lol Mega lol. You may as well have posted "never take anything I say seriously". But the majority of people who voted on the issue would probably agree with me. Funny that eh The entire Brexit party would agree with you A ringing endorsement You confuse me with your stance on Brexit. Real socialists are against EU membership and the old Labour Party who at least stood for the working class were always against EEC/EU membership and campaigned to get out. What are you? A champagne socialist? " What is a champagne socialist? | |||
"And glad that it looks like Biden has won. Great that the EU will have Boris over a barrel now. He won't have is pal trump now. Won't make any difference but why on earth would you want the EU to have the UK over a barrel? Because Brexit is a bad idea and and it might mean we are kept closer to the EU. Brexit is the best thing this country has done for years and I'm not sure what you mean by closer to the EU Can you.provide some factual evidence for that 1st point Not yet obviously. Can you provide any factual evidence that remaining in the EU would have been better? No customs costs! 270m entries according to HMRC No investment money leaving London which in tax take exceeds the savings on paying into the EU. Free access to the biggest market in the world. But hey USA will save us!! FFS Two facts ?? No investment money leaving London? Pisser Maybe you missed the Germans saying how much they needed the investment money from the city of London last week " Read the FT 375 financial companies have registered some or all of their business in the EU from the U.K.. Those businesses have moved at least some of their operations. (Jobs) Larger companies such as Barclays have moved hundreds of billions hence the loss of tax take for the U.K. economy. The destinations in order of preference for the bankers are Paris, Amsterdam and then Frankfurt. I was on a phone call on Thursday chaired in part by the food importers association. They have thousands of certifications to sort and as yet the government have done nothing other than to say we will not accepting the existing EU certificates on food safety / inspection etc. The extra paperwork on their estimate is around 2Billion items. Total customs declarations for all exporters 270million. All costs So yes I can go on and on about things that would be better. | |||
"And glad that it looks like Biden has won. Great that the EU will have Boris over a barrel now. He won't have is pal trump now. Won't make any difference but why on earth would you want the EU to have the UK over a barrel? Because Brexit is a bad idea and and it might mean we are kept closer to the EU. Brexit is the best thing this country has done for years and I'm not sure what you mean by closer to the EU Lol Mega lol. You may as well have posted "never take anything I say seriously". But the majority of people who voted on the issue would probably agree with me. Funny that eh The entire Brexit party would agree with you A ringing endorsement You confuse me with your stance on Brexit. Real socialists are against EU membership and the old Labour Party who at least stood for the working class were always against EEC/EU membership and campaigned to get out. What are you? A champagne socialist? What is a champagne socialist?" Someone who has plenty of money and/or a guilty conscience about something and pretends to care for the working class but in reality despises them. A perfect example would be Keir Starmer | |||
"The ‘crashing out’ propaganda claims that leaving the EU on WTO terms will result in catastrophe. This Report shows precisely how it can bring huge economic gains. Print Friendly, PDF & Email Post Segments Fishing Ending budgetary payments to the EU Abolishing the Common Agricultural Policy (CAP) Cutting EU tariffs Reducing benefit payments to EU immigrants Striking trade deals with third countries Reducing regulatory burdens Over recent weeks, there have been renewed efforts to claim that the UK leaving the EU on WTO terms will result in economic catastrophe. The general approach has been to claim huge downsides while ignoring or minimising possible upsides. We have argued repeatedly that claims that UK trade and GDP will collapse in case of a move to trading with the EU on WTO terms are hugely exaggerated, being based on wildly unrealistic assumptions about productivity shifts and other factors. Trade barriers will rise and bilateral trade volumes between the UK and EU will decline, to some extent, in a WTO scenario. But some of what will also happen is that UK exports will be diverted to the home market and other destinations, and EU imports will be displaced by UK production and imports from third countries (weaker sterling will also help this shift). Because of these offsetting shifts in sales patterns, the net effect on UK GDP of a WTO Brexit will be a small fraction of the effect on UK-EU trade. Nobel laureate Paul Krugman estimates for the US that even a 70% fall in trade would only cut GDP by 2%. Using the same approach, we estimate the likely effect on UK GDP from rising UK-EU trade barriers at just 0.5% of UK GDP. Distinguished economist Ashoka Mody suggests a similar figure, which would amount to £10.5bn. This is ten to fifteen times smaller than the effects the Treasury and Bank of England are claiming. Meanwhile, there are a range of potential positives from a WTO-based Brexit that could outweigh these losses: Fishing the UK fishing industry could potentially double in size after Brexit, as the UK takes full control of a natural resource which currently is mostly harvested by EU boats. Estimates by Napier (2018) and others suggest a rise in catch of up to £700-800mn per year which with positive supply chain effects could see a total boost to output of around £3bn per year – already offsetting a third of the possible trade losses. Ending budgetary payments to the EU over the last three years net contributions to the EU have totalled £10 billion per year, or around 0.5% of UK GDP. Ending these payments alone essentially cancels out the possible trade-related losses. Abolishing the Common Agricultural Policy (CAP) The CAP costs British taxpayers twice over – once through subsidies paid to farmers and twice by keeping food prices artificially high. OECD data suggests EU farm prices are around 5% above world prices and our estimates based on this data suggest UK consumers pay around £2billion per year in higher prices due to the CAP. Cutting EU tariffs The EU imposes high tariffs on foodstuffs and also some other areas including clothing and textiles, where applied tariffs on third-country imports are 6-8%. UK tariff revenue from these items totals about £1bn per year but gains to consumers from the abolition of tariffs on these items could be much larger than that as domestic prices for clothing and textile products generally (not just the imported items) would likely fall. With textile and clothing spending at £82bn per year even a 3% price fall would boost consumer incomes (and potentially spending) by £2.5bn. More broadly, the IFS has estimated that the abolition of all EU tariffs would cut consumer prices by up to 1.2%. With UK consumer spending at £1.3tn in 2017, this implies gains for consumers of up to £15bn (note tariff cuts discussed here would reduce budgetary gains by £1-3.5bn depending on how broad they were). Reducing benefit payments to EU immigrants A targeted immigration policy could keep the fiscal benefits accruing to the UK from high-skilled immigrants while cutting the burden associated with the lower-skilled. The Migration Advisory Committee suggests the fiscal ‘break-even’ point for EEA immigrants is a salary of around £30,000 per year while government figures suggest benefit payments to EEA nationals of around £1.6bn per year. This latter figure could be reduced to near-zero by appropriate immigration rules. Striking trade deals with third countries An EU assessment of the benefits of striking free trade deals with a range of third countries including the US and Asian economies suggested these could boost EU GDP by 1.2% and by up to 2% if productivity effects are allowed. For the UK alone this would represent an annual gain in GDP of £25-£40bn. But the figures could easily be higher for the UK due to the UK’s bigger trade with non-EU countries. Increased restrictions on trade with the EU could lead to some negative effects on UK productivity, though these tend to be greatly exaggerated. But the net productivity effect if the UK opened up trade with the rest of the world would be likely to be positive given the rest of the world’s greater dynamism and higher productivity levels in e.g. North America. A recent study by the Minnesota Fed suggested reducing trade and investment barriers with the rest of the world by 5% would raise UK welfare by £25-30 billion per year even with increased restrictions on trade and investment with the EU. Reducing regulatory burdens The cost of EU regulations is hard to calculate but the EU’s own estimates suggest the cost to business is large, as much as 4-6% of GDP. Removing all of this is unrealistic, but even reducing the burden by 25% would potentially yield savings of 1-1.5% of UK GDP or £20-£30bn per year in business costs. And the positive impact on GDP could be bigger than this: The UK better regulation taskforce in 2005 reported a Danish government estimate implying that for every £1 decline in the administrative burden of regulation, GDP could rise by £2.70. Importantly, we are not talking about a regulatory ‘race to the bottom’ here – just smarter regulation better targeted at the interests of the UK economy. brexit financial economy Adding all these upsides together (with appropriate netting on the budgetary side), we can easily come to a figure for net gains of around £80bn or nearly 4% of GDP, far outweighing the potential trade costs mentioned earlier of £10.6bn or 0.5% of GDP. Now it is quite likely that not all the upsides would materialise, and also that trade costs might be higher. But even more pessimistic – but still realistic – takes on trade costs such as in the German IFO study of 2017, CEP (2017) , Gudgin, Coutts et al (2017) or Ciuriak et al (2018) suggest costs of only around 1.5-2.5% of GDP. The midpoint of these estimates is still only half of the potential upsides we have identified. A smart WTO Brexit with well-designed trade, immigration, agricultural, fishing and regulatory policies would, far from being a ‘disaster’, have an excellent chance of delivering substantial long-term net benefits." Interesting propaganda from a pro Brexit site. The funds moving from U.K. banks to the EU basically rights off the vast majority of the gain stated in savings on non membership . If they move 10-20% more the government will have to seriously raise taxes elsewhere as the lost tax starts creeping up to 25-30Billion plus. Banks need the trading passport to move funds freely. 80% of their trade in Europe is outside of ten U.K. so those funds have to be in the EU. Fishing is assuming 100% of uplift which is just nonsense in any real world . A lot of fisherman are now Asian or African as the U.K. again can’t supply the workers. No one wants to do that work. Migrants were proven to contribute more than they cost by the ONS. We are already experiencing dramatic truck drivers shortages as they go back home . No one from U.K. wants the jobs. Pay more you say . That adds costs doesn’t it? Cheaper food . Absolutely true and the chickens are kept in pens the cows in stock yards no grass and pigs in single pig cages they can’t turnaround in . Also all fed on hormones which increase weight gain and therefore reduce feeding costs . They fatten twice as fast but the animal does not mature so really nasty stuff. Chemical shit basically. If that’s the food you want move to America . There it’s on the public to prove chemicals harm you not on big pharma to prove they don’t. Trade deals with other countries look great assuming they aren’t worse than what we have already and all are much better, other wise those figure are make believe. Cutting tariffs is a two way street. If you want free trade they you have to allow access to our markets. That’s more imports and less manufacturing in the U.K. so lost jobs ! No mention of that. Lots of could’s and should’s and maybe’s . But not much in the way of facts really. | |||
"And glad that it looks like Biden has won. Great that the EU will have Boris over a barrel now. He won't have is pal trump now. Won't make any difference but why on earth would you want the EU to have the UK over a barrel? Because Brexit is a bad idea and and it might mean we are kept closer to the EU. Brexit is the best thing this country has done for years and I'm not sure what you mean by closer to the EU Lol Mega lol. You may as well have posted "never take anything I say seriously". But the majority of people who voted on the issue would probably agree with me. Funny that eh The entire Brexit party would agree with you A ringing endorsement You confuse me with your stance on Brexit. Real socialists are against EU membership and the old Labour Party who at least stood for the working class were always against EEC/EU membership and campaigned to get out. What are you? A champagne socialist? What is a champagne socialist? Someone who has plenty of money and/or a guilty conscience about something and pretends to care for the working class but in reality despises them. A perfect example would be Keir Starmer" So keir starmer 'hates the working class? Presumably once again you have mo evidence of this? | |||
"And glad that it looks like Biden has won. Great that the EU will have Boris over a barrel now. He won't have is pal trump now. Won't make any difference but why on earth would you want the EU to have the UK over a barrel? Because Brexit is a bad idea and and it might mean we are kept closer to the EU. Brexit is the best thing this country has done for years and I'm not sure what you mean by closer to the EU Lol Mega lol. You may as well have posted "never take anything I say seriously". But the majority of people who voted on the issue would probably agree with me. Funny that eh The entire Brexit party would agree with you A ringing endorsement You confuse me with your stance on Brexit. Real socialists are against EU membership and the old Labour Party who at least stood for the working class were always against EEC/EU membership and campaigned to get out. What are you? A champagne socialist? What is a champagne socialist? Someone who has plenty of money and/or a guilty conscience about something and pretends to care for the working class but in reality despises them. A perfect example would be Keir Starmer So keir starmer 'hates the working class? Presumably once again you have mo evidence of this?" Hi Lionel He’s maybe confusing himself with that song! “The working class can kiss my arse I’ve got the foreman’s job at last!” | |||
"And glad that it looks like Biden has won. Great that the EU will have Boris over a barrel now. He won't have is pal trump now. Won't make any difference but why on earth would you want the EU to have the UK over a barrel? Because Brexit is a bad idea and and it might mean we are kept closer to the EU. Brexit is the best thing this country has done for years and I'm not sure what you mean by closer to the EU Lol Mega lol. You may as well have posted "never take anything I say seriously". But the majority of people who voted on the issue would probably agree with me. Funny that eh The entire Brexit party would agree with you A ringing endorsement You confuse me with your stance on Brexit. Real socialists are against EU membership and the old Labour Party who at least stood for the working class were always against EEC/EU membership and campaigned to get out. What are you? A champagne socialist? What is a champagne socialist? Someone who has plenty of money and/or a guilty conscience about something and pretends to care for the working class but in reality despises them. A perfect example would be Keir Starmer So keir starmer 'hates the working class? Presumably once again you have mo evidence of this? Hi Lionel He’s maybe confusing himself with that song! “The working class can kiss my arse I’ve got the foreman’s job at last!” " | |||
"And glad that it looks like Biden has won. Great that the EU will have Boris over a barrel now. He won't have is pal trump now. Won't make any difference but why on earth would you want the EU to have the UK over a barrel? Because Brexit is a bad idea and and it might mean we are kept closer to the EU. Brexit is the best thing this country has done for years and I'm not sure what you mean by closer to the EU Lol Mega lol. You may as well have posted "never take anything I say seriously". But the majority of people who voted on the issue would probably agree with me. Funny that eh The entire Brexit party would agree with you A ringing endorsement You confuse me with your stance on Brexit. Real socialists are against EU membership and the old Labour Party who at least stood for the working class were always against EEC/EU membership and campaigned to get out. What are you? A champagne socialist? What is a champagne socialist? Someone who has plenty of money and/or a guilty conscience about something and pretends to care for the working class but in reality despises them. A perfect example would be Keir Starmer So keir starmer 'hates the working class? Presumably once again you have mo evidence of this?" did he not got to a private school if not there’s not many working class in there ? | |||
"And glad that it looks like Biden has won. Great that the EU will have Boris over a barrel now. He won't have is pal trump now. Won't make any difference but why on earth would you want the EU to have the UK over a barrel? Because Brexit is a bad idea and and it might mean we are kept closer to the EU. Brexit is the best thing this country has done for years and I'm not sure what you mean by closer to the EU Lol Mega lol. You may as well have posted "never take anything I say seriously". But the majority of people who voted on the issue would probably agree with me. Funny that eh The entire Brexit party would agree with you A ringing endorsement You confuse me with your stance on Brexit. Real socialists are against EU membership and the old Labour Party who at least stood for the working class were always against EEC/EU membership and campaigned to get out. What are you? A champagne socialist? What is a champagne socialist? Someone who has plenty of money and/or a guilty conscience about something and pretends to care for the working class but in reality despises them. A perfect example would be Keir Starmer So keir starmer 'hates the working class? Presumably once again you have mo evidence of this?did he not got to a private school if not there’s not many working class in there ?" Does going to be a private school mean you hate working class people? And I'm not sure he would see himself as a socialist anyway. | |||
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"And glad that it looks like Biden has won. Great that the EU will have Boris over a barrel now. He won't have is pal trump now. Won't make any difference but why on earth would you want the EU to have the UK over a barrel? Because Brexit is a bad idea and and it might mean we are kept closer to the EU. Brexit is the best thing this country has done for years and I'm not sure what you mean by closer to the EU Lol Mega lol. You may as well have posted "never take anything I say seriously". But the majority of people who voted on the issue would probably agree with me. Funny that eh The entire Brexit party would agree with you A ringing endorsement You confuse me with your stance on Brexit. Real socialists are against EU membership and the old Labour Party who at least stood for the working class were always against EEC/EU membership and campaigned to get out. What are you? A champagne socialist? What is a champagne socialist? Someone who has plenty of money and/or a guilty conscience about something and pretends to care for the working class but in reality despises them. A perfect example would be Keir Starmer So keir starmer 'hates the working class? Presumably once again you have mo evidence of this?" Well the fact that he is the leader of a racist bullying party who ignored the working class by trying to get the result of the referendum overturned tells you a lot. He is an opportunistic chancer who doesn't care for the working class and understands them even less, like most of the current Labour Party. So why are you against Brexit if you are a socialist? | |||
"Trump gone. Now time to get rid of the arsehole that is Johnson." So agree! | |||
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"And glad that it looks like Biden has won. Great that the EU will have Boris over a barrel now. He won't have is pal trump now. Won't make any difference but why on earth would you want the EU to have the UK over a barrel? Because Brexit is a bad idea and and it might mean we are kept closer to the EU. Brexit is the best thing this country has done for years and I'm not sure what you mean by closer to the EU Lol Mega lol. You may as well have posted "never take anything I say seriously". But the majority of people who voted on the issue would probably agree with me. Funny that eh The entire Brexit party would agree with you A ringing endorsement You confuse me with your stance on Brexit. Real socialists are against EU membership and the old Labour Party who at least stood for the working class were always against EEC/EU membership and campaigned to get out. What are you? A champagne socialist? What is a champagne socialist? Someone who has plenty of money and/or a guilty conscience about something and pretends to care for the working class but in reality despises them. A perfect example would be Keir Starmer So keir starmer 'hates the working class? Presumably once again you have mo evidence of this? Well the fact that he is the leader of a racist bullying party who ignored the working class by trying to get the result of the referendum overturned tells you a lot. He is an opportunistic chancer who doesn't care for the working class and understands them even less, like most of the current Labour Party. So why are you against Brexit if you are a socialist? " Love how this argument has gone.... 1. Brexit is great. 2. Shit, no evidence to back this up. 3. Ermmm better use some buzzwords. 4. Champagne socialist! Now we're looking at you arguing that people who don't want to ruin the economy for the benefit of a rich few at the top, and people who don't want more austerity on the least well off in society "hate poor people". Amazing. Truly astounding. | |||
"And glad that it looks like Biden has won. Great that the EU will have Boris over a barrel now. He won't have is pal trump now. Won't make any difference but why on earth would you want the EU to have the UK over a barrel? Because Brexit is a bad idea and and it might mean we are kept closer to the EU. Brexit is the best thing this country has done for years and I'm not sure what you mean by closer to the EU Lol Mega lol. You may as well have posted "never take anything I say seriously". But the majority of people who voted on the issue would probably agree with me. Funny that eh The entire Brexit party would agree with you A ringing endorsement You confuse me with your stance on Brexit. Real socialists are against EU membership and the old Labour Party who at least stood for the working class were always against EEC/EU membership and campaigned to get out. What are you? A champagne socialist? What is a champagne socialist? Someone who has plenty of money and/or a guilty conscience about something and pretends to care for the working class but in reality despises them. A perfect example would be Keir Starmer So keir starmer 'hates the working class? Presumably once again you have mo evidence of this? Well the fact that he is the leader of a racist bullying party who ignored the working class by trying to get the result of the referendum overturned tells you a lot. He is an opportunistic chancer who doesn't care for the working class and understands them even less, like most of the current Labour Party. So why are you against Brexit if you are a socialist? " You are full of nonsense today arent you Wanna provide a link to the bit in the report which claimed labour was a racist bullying party? Ignored the working class?what so every working class person voted Brexit? Another statement that can be shot down in flames | |||
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"And glad that it looks like Biden has won. Great that the EU will have Boris over a barrel now. He won't have is pal trump now. Won't make any difference but why on earth would you want the EU to have the UK over a barrel? Because Brexit is a bad idea and and it might mean we are kept closer to the EU. Brexit is the best thing this country has done for years and I'm not sure what you mean by closer to the EU Lol Mega lol. You may as well have posted "never take anything I say seriously". But the majority of people who voted on the issue would probably agree with me. Funny that eh The entire Brexit party would agree with you A ringing endorsement You confuse me with your stance on Brexit. Real socialists are against EU membership and the old Labour Party who at least stood for the working class were always against EEC/EU membership and campaigned to get out. What are you? A champagne socialist? What is a champagne socialist? Someone who has plenty of money and/or a guilty conscience about something and pretends to care for the working class but in reality despises them. A perfect example would be Keir Starmer So keir starmer 'hates the working class? Presumably once again you have mo evidence of this? Well the fact that he is the leader of a racist bullying party who ignored the working class by trying to get the result of the referendum overturned tells you a lot. He is an opportunistic chancer who doesn't care for the working class and understands them even less, like most of the current Labour Party. So why are you against Brexit if you are a socialist? You are full of nonsense today arent you Wanna provide a link to the bit in the report which claimed labour was a racist bullying party? Ignored the working class?what so every working class person voted Brexit? Another statement that can be shot down in flames " The report found labour guilty of racim. And when Tom Watson said Luciana Berger was driven out of the party by racist bullies he was lying was he? And no not all working class voted for Brexit but the majority did and Starmer completely ignored and disrespected their decision. One of the main reasons Labour were thrashed in the election | |||
"And glad that it looks like Biden has won. Great that the EU will have Boris over a barrel now. He won't have is pal trump now. Won't make any difference but why on earth would you want the EU to have the UK over a barrel? Because Brexit is a bad idea and and it might mean we are kept closer to the EU. Brexit is the best thing this country has done for years and I'm not sure what you mean by closer to the EU Lol Mega lol. You may as well have posted "never take anything I say seriously". But the majority of people who voted on the issue would probably agree with me. Funny that eh The entire Brexit party would agree with you A ringing endorsement You confuse me with your stance on Brexit. Real socialists are against EU membership and the old Labour Party who at least stood for the working class were always against EEC/EU membership and campaigned to get out. What are you? A champagne socialist? What is a champagne socialist? Someone who has plenty of money and/or a guilty conscience about something and pretends to care for the working class but in reality despises them. A perfect example would be Keir Starmer So keir starmer 'hates the working class? Presumably once again you have mo evidence of this? Well the fact that he is the leader of a racist bullying party who ignored the working class by trying to get the result of the referendum overturned tells you a lot. He is an opportunistic chancer who doesn't care for the working class and understands them even less, like most of the current Labour Party. So why are you against Brexit if you are a socialist? You are full of nonsense today arent you Wanna provide a link to the bit in the report which claimed labour was a racist bullying party? Ignored the working class?what so every working class person voted Brexit? Another statement that can be shot down in flames The report found labour guilty of racim. And when Tom Watson said Luciana Berger was driven out of the party by racist bullies he was lying was he? And no not all working class voted for Brexit but the majority did and Starmer completely ignored and disrespected their decision. One of the main reasons Labour were thrashed in the election " No it didnt. How can you find a whole party guilty of something? It found some complaints were not handled properly. You claim that 'most'WC class people is not backed up by any evidence whatsoever. But yes one of the main reasons they lost was because of Brexit..how this translates into the campaign socialist starmer hates the wc is anyones guess. | |||
"And glad that it looks like Biden has won. Great that the EU will have Boris over a barrel now. He won't have is pal trump now. Won't make any difference but why on earth would you want the EU to have the UK over a barrel? Because Brexit is a bad idea and and it might mean we are kept closer to the EU. Brexit is the best thing this country has done for years and I'm not sure what you mean by closer to the EU Lol Mega lol. You may as well have posted "never take anything I say seriously". But the majority of people who voted on the issue would probably agree with me. Funny that eh The entire Brexit party would agree with you A ringing endorsement You confuse me with your stance on Brexit. Real socialists are against EU membership and the old Labour Party who at least stood for the working class were always against EEC/EU membership and campaigned to get out. What are you? A champagne socialist? What is a champagne socialist? Someone who has plenty of money and/or a guilty conscience about something and pretends to care for the working class but in reality despises them. A perfect example would be Keir Starmer So keir starmer 'hates the working class? Presumably once again you have mo evidence of this? Well the fact that he is the leader of a racist bullying party who ignored the working class by trying to get the result of the referendum overturned tells you a lot. He is an opportunistic chancer who doesn't care for the working class and understands them even less, like most of the current Labour Party. So why are you against Brexit if you are a socialist? You are full of nonsense today arent you Wanna provide a link to the bit in the report which claimed labour was a racist bullying party? Ignored the working class?what so every working class person voted Brexit? Another statement that can be shot down in flames The report found labour guilty of racim. And when Tom Watson said Luciana Berger was driven out of the party by racist bullies he was lying was he? And no not all working class voted for Brexit but the majority did and Starmer completely ignored and disrespected their decision. One of the main reasons Labour were thrashed in the election " Starmer was in charge during the last election! Astounding. Your attitude that the majority of working class people voted for Brexit is a bit condescending isn't it! | |||
"And glad that it looks like Biden has won. Great that the EU will have Boris over a barrel now. He won't have is pal trump now. Won't make any difference but why on earth would you want the EU to have the UK over a barrel? Because Brexit is a bad idea and and it might mean we are kept closer to the EU. Brexit is the best thing this country has done for years and I'm not sure what you mean by closer to the EU Lol Mega lol. You may as well have posted "never take anything I say seriously". But the majority of people who voted on the issue would probably agree with me. Funny that eh The entire Brexit party would agree with you A ringing endorsement You confuse me with your stance on Brexit. Real socialists are against EU membership and the old Labour Party who at least stood for the working class were always against EEC/EU membership and campaigned to get out. What are you? A champagne socialist? What is a champagne socialist? Someone who has plenty of money and/or a guilty conscience about something and pretends to care for the working class but in reality despises them. A perfect example would be Keir Starmer So keir starmer 'hates the working class? Presumably once again you have mo evidence of this? Well the fact that he is the leader of a racist bullying party who ignored the working class by trying to get the result of the referendum overturned tells you a lot. He is an opportunistic chancer who doesn't care for the working class and understands them even less, like most of the current Labour Party. So why are you against Brexit if you are a socialist? You are full of nonsense today arent you Wanna provide a link to the bit in the report which claimed labour was a racist bullying party? Ignored the working class?what so every working class person voted Brexit? Another statement that can be shot down in flames The report found labour guilty of racim. And when Tom Watson said Luciana Berger was driven out of the party by racist bullies he was lying was he? And no not all working class voted for Brexit but the majority did and Starmer completely ignored and disrespected their decision. One of the main reasons Labour were thrashed in the election Starmer was in charge during the last election! Astounding. Your attitude that the majority of working class people voted for Brexit is a bit condescending isn't it!" Did I say Starmer was in charge during the last election? No. But he was one of the leading front benchers and probably the biggest mouthpiece for a second referendum because he mistakenly believed that was the way the wind was blowing, he only hears his own metropolitan bubble and echo chamber and does not listen to or understand working class voters. Why is it condescending? | |||
"And glad that it looks like Biden has won. Great that the EU will have Boris over a barrel now. He won't have is pal trump now. Won't make any difference but why on earth would you want the EU to have the UK over a barrel? Because Brexit is a bad idea and and it might mean we are kept closer to the EU. Brexit is the best thing this country has done for years and I'm not sure what you mean by closer to the EU Lol Mega lol. You may as well have posted "never take anything I say seriously". But the majority of people who voted on the issue would probably agree with me. Funny that eh The entire Brexit party would agree with you A ringing endorsement You confuse me with your stance on Brexit. Real socialists are against EU membership and the old Labour Party who at least stood for the working class were always against EEC/EU membership and campaigned to get out. What are you? A champagne socialist? What is a champagne socialist? Someone who has plenty of money and/or a guilty conscience about something and pretends to care for the working class but in reality despises them. A perfect example would be Keir Starmer So keir starmer 'hates the working class? Presumably once again you have mo evidence of this? Well the fact that he is the leader of a racist bullying party who ignored the working class by trying to get the result of the referendum overturned tells you a lot. He is an opportunistic chancer who doesn't care for the working class and understands them even less, like most of the current Labour Party. So why are you against Brexit if you are a socialist? You are full of nonsense today arent you Wanna provide a link to the bit in the report which claimed labour was a racist bullying party? Ignored the working class?what so every working class person voted Brexit? Another statement that can be shot down in flames The report found labour guilty of racim. And when Tom Watson said Luciana Berger was driven out of the party by racist bullies he was lying was he? And no not all working class voted for Brexit but the majority did and Starmer completely ignored and disrespected their decision. One of the main reasons Labour were thrashed in the election Starmer was in charge during the last election! Astounding. Your attitude that the majority of working class people voted for Brexit is a bit condescending isn't it! Did I say Starmer was in charge during the last election? No. But he was one of the leading front benchers and probably the biggest mouthpiece for a second referendum because he mistakenly believed that was the way the wind was blowing, he only hears his own metropolitan bubble and echo chamber and does not listen to or understand working class voters. Why is it condescending? " You genuinely don't know why it's condescending to tar working class people as Brexit voters? | |||
"And glad that it looks like Biden has won. Great that the EU will have Boris over a barrel now. He won't have is pal trump now. Won't make any difference but why on earth would you want the EU to have the UK over a barrel? Because Brexit is a bad idea and and it might mean we are kept closer to the EU. Brexit is the best thing this country has done for years and I'm not sure what you mean by closer to the EU Lol Mega lol. You may as well have posted "never take anything I say seriously". But the majority of people who voted on the issue would probably agree with me. Funny that eh The entire Brexit party would agree with you A ringing endorsement You confuse me with your stance on Brexit. Real socialists are against EU membership and the old Labour Party who at least stood for the working class were always against EEC/EU membership and campaigned to get out. What are you? A champagne socialist? What is a champagne socialist? Someone who has plenty of money and/or a guilty conscience about something and pretends to care for the working class but in reality despises them. A perfect example would be Keir Starmer So keir starmer 'hates the working class? Presumably once again you have mo evidence of this? Well the fact that he is the leader of a racist bullying party who ignored the working class by trying to get the result of the referendum overturned tells you a lot. He is an opportunistic chancer who doesn't care for the working class and understands them even less, like most of the current Labour Party. So why are you against Brexit if you are a socialist? You are full of nonsense today arent you Wanna provide a link to the bit in the report which claimed labour was a racist bullying party? Ignored the working class?what so every working class person voted Brexit? Another statement that can be shot down in flames The report found labour guilty of racim. And when Tom Watson said Luciana Berger was driven out of the party by racist bullies he was lying was he? And no not all working class voted for Brexit but the majority did and Starmer completely ignored and disrespected their decision. One of the main reasons Labour were thrashed in the election Starmer was in charge during the last election! Astounding. Your attitude that the majority of working class people voted for Brexit is a bit condescending isn't it! Did I say Starmer was in charge during the last election? No. But he was one of the leading front benchers and probably the biggest mouthpiece for a second referendum because he mistakenly believed that was the way the wind was blowing, he only hears his own metropolitan bubble and echo chamber and does not listen to or understand working class voters. Why is it condescending? You genuinely don't know why it's condescending to tar working class people as Brexit voters?" Tar them? and I'm condescending?
No I don't know why saying most working class people voted for Brexit is condescending, please explain | |||
"And glad that it looks like Biden has won. Great that the EU will have Boris over a barrel now. He won't have is pal trump now. Won't make any difference but why on earth would you want the EU to have the UK over a barrel? Because Brexit is a bad idea and and it might mean we are kept closer to the EU. Brexit is the best thing this country has done for years and I'm not sure what you mean by closer to the EU Lol Mega lol. You may as well have posted "never take anything I say seriously". But the majority of people who voted on the issue would probably agree with me. Funny that eh The entire Brexit party would agree with you A ringing endorsement You confuse me with your stance on Brexit. Real socialists are against EU membership and the old Labour Party who at least stood for the working class were always against EEC/EU membership and campaigned to get out. What are you? A champagne socialist? What is a champagne socialist? Someone who has plenty of money and/or a guilty conscience about something and pretends to care for the working class but in reality despises them. A perfect example would be Keir Starmer So keir starmer 'hates the working class? Presumably once again you have mo evidence of this? Well the fact that he is the leader of a racist bullying party who ignored the working class by trying to get the result of the referendum overturned tells you a lot. He is an opportunistic chancer who doesn't care for the working class and understands them even less, like most of the current Labour Party. So why are you against Brexit if you are a socialist? You are full of nonsense today arent you Wanna provide a link to the bit in the report which claimed labour was a racist bullying party? Ignored the working class?what so every working class person voted Brexit? Another statement that can be shot down in flames The report found labour guilty of racim. And when Tom Watson said Luciana Berger was driven out of the party by racist bullies he was lying was he? And no not all working class voted for Brexit but the majority did and Starmer completely ignored and disrespected their decision. One of the main reasons Labour were thrashed in the election Starmer was in charge during the last election! Astounding. Your attitude that the majority of working class people voted for Brexit is a bit condescending isn't it! Did I say Starmer was in charge during the last election? No. But he was one of the leading front benchers and probably the biggest mouthpiece for a second referendum because he mistakenly believed that was the way the wind was blowing, he only hears his own metropolitan bubble and echo chamber and does not listen to or understand working class voters. Why is it condescending? You genuinely don't know why it's condescending to tar working class people as Brexit voters? Tar them? and I'm condescending?
No I don't know why saying most working class people voted for Brexit is condescending, please explain "So judging people based on them being "working class" isn't a good way to think. Being working class is not a choice for most, it's just life. Working class people are not a homogeneous group with one opinion. Voting for Brexit is a choice. Forming an opinion on someone for choosing to vote for Brexit is a reasonable thing to do. I'm not interested in the "why did you vote for Brexit, what is a single benefit of Brexit" type questions people like to ask. As there are no answers. And it's unimportant which piece of propaganda you chose to believe and base your vote on. The point is, people who vote for something based on misinformation, lies, propaganda, and utter nonsense come from all different parts of society. And it's condescending to suggest that working class people are more susceptible to propaganda, lies, and bullshit. | |||
"And glad that it looks like Biden has won. Great that the EU will have Boris over a barrel now. He won't have is pal trump now. Won't make any difference but why on earth would you want the EU to have the UK over a barrel? Because Brexit is a bad idea and and it might mean we are kept closer to the EU. Brexit is the best thing this country has done for years and I'm not sure what you mean by closer to the EU Lol Mega lol. You may as well have posted "never take anything I say seriously". But the majority of people who voted on the issue would probably agree with me. Funny that eh The entire Brexit party would agree with you A ringing endorsement You confuse me with your stance on Brexit. Real socialists are against EU membership and the old Labour Party who at least stood for the working class were always against EEC/EU membership and campaigned to get out. What are you? A champagne socialist? What is a champagne socialist? Someone who has plenty of money and/or a guilty conscience about something and pretends to care for the working class but in reality despises them. A perfect example would be Keir Starmer So keir starmer 'hates the working class? Presumably once again you have mo evidence of this? Well the fact that he is the leader of a racist bullying party who ignored the working class by trying to get the result of the referendum overturned tells you a lot. He is an opportunistic chancer who doesn't care for the working class and understands them even less, like most of the current Labour Party. So why are you against Brexit if you are a socialist? You are full of nonsense today arent you Wanna provide a link to the bit in the report which claimed labour was a racist bullying party? Ignored the working class?what so every working class person voted Brexit? Another statement that can be shot down in flames The report found labour guilty of racim. And when Tom Watson said Luciana Berger was driven out of the party by racist bullies he was lying was he? And no not all working class voted for Brexit but the majority did and Starmer completely ignored and disrespected their decision. One of the main reasons Labour were thrashed in the election Starmer was in charge during the last election! Astounding. Your attitude that the majority of working class people voted for Brexit is a bit condescending isn't it! Did I say Starmer was in charge during the last election? No. But he was one of the leading front benchers and probably the biggest mouthpiece for a second referendum because he mistakenly believed that was the way the wind was blowing, he only hears his own metropolitan bubble and echo chamber and does not listen to or understand working class voters. Why is it condescending? You genuinely don't know why it's condescending to tar working class people as Brexit voters? Tar them? and I'm condescending?
No I don't know why saying most working class people voted for Brexit is condescending, please explain "Working class people voted for Brexit because it was the only way for them to rock the boat and the status quo. Problem is that their misery is not the EU’s fault but our lovely Conservative party’s that has let inequalities get starker and let the gap between the have and the have nots get worse. And as always, the tories and the rags that serve their propaganda have been experts at passing the buck and blame somebody else: the EU. There won’t be anybody else to blame. Again, the popcorn is ready here. The disillusions are going to be so fun to watch. | |||
"And glad that it looks like Biden has won. Great that the EU will have Boris over a barrel now. He won't have is pal trump now. Won't make any difference but why on earth would you want the EU to have the UK over a barrel? Because Brexit is a bad idea and and it might mean we are kept closer to the EU. Brexit is the best thing this country has done for years and I'm not sure what you mean by closer to the EU Lol Mega lol. You may as well have posted "never take anything I say seriously". But the majority of people who voted on the issue would probably agree with me. Funny that eh The entire Brexit party would agree with you A ringing endorsement You confuse me with your stance on Brexit. Real socialists are against EU membership and the old Labour Party who at least stood for the working class were always against EEC/EU membership and campaigned to get out. What are you? A champagne socialist? What is a champagne socialist? Someone who has plenty of money and/or a guilty conscience about something and pretends to care for the working class but in reality despises them. A perfect example would be Keir Starmer So keir starmer 'hates the working class? Presumably once again you have mo evidence of this? Well the fact that he is the leader of a racist bullying party who ignored the working class by trying to get the result of the referendum overturned tells you a lot. He is an opportunistic chancer who doesn't care for the working class and understands them even less, like most of the current Labour Party. So why are you against Brexit if you are a socialist? You are full of nonsense today arent you Wanna provide a link to the bit in the report which claimed labour was a racist bullying party? Ignored the working class?what so every working class person voted Brexit? Another statement that can be shot down in flames The report found labour guilty of racim. And when Tom Watson said Luciana Berger was driven out of the party by racist bullies he was lying was he? And no not all working class voted for Brexit but the majority did and Starmer completely ignored and disrespected their decision. One of the main reasons Labour were thrashed in the election Starmer was in charge during the last election! Astounding. Your attitude that the majority of working class people voted for Brexit is a bit condescending isn't it! Did I say Starmer was in charge during the last election? No. But he was one of the leading front benchers and probably the biggest mouthpiece for a second referendum because he mistakenly believed that was the way the wind was blowing, he only hears his own metropolitan bubble and echo chamber and does not listen to or understand working class voters. Why is it condescending? " You said he was a socialist. | |||
"And glad that it looks like Biden has won. Great that the EU will have Boris over a barrel now. He won't have is pal trump now. Won't make any difference but why on earth would you want the EU to have the UK over a barrel? Because Brexit is a bad idea and and it might mean we are kept closer to the EU. Brexit is the best thing this country has done for years and I'm not sure what you mean by closer to the EU Lol Mega lol. You may as well have posted "never take anything I say seriously". But the majority of people who voted on the issue would probably agree with me. Funny that eh The entire Brexit party would agree with you A ringing endorsement You confuse me with your stance on Brexit. Real socialists are against EU membership and the old Labour Party who at least stood for the working class were always against EEC/EU membership and campaigned to get out. What are you? A champagne socialist? What is a champagne socialist? Someone who has plenty of money and/or a guilty conscience about something and pretends to care for the working class but in reality despises them. A perfect example would be Keir Starmer So keir starmer 'hates the working class? Presumably once again you have mo evidence of this? Well the fact that he is the leader of a racist bullying party who ignored the working class by trying to get the result of the referendum overturned tells you a lot. He is an opportunistic chancer who doesn't care for the working class and understands them even less, like most of the current Labour Party. So why are you against Brexit if you are a socialist? You are full of nonsense today arent you Wanna provide a link to the bit in the report which claimed labour was a racist bullying party? Ignored the working class?what so every working class person voted Brexit? Another statement that can be shot down in flames The report found labour guilty of racim. And when Tom Watson said Luciana Berger was driven out of the party by racist bullies he was lying was he? And no not all working class voted for Brexit but the majority did and Starmer completely ignored and disrespected their decision. One of the main reasons Labour were thrashed in the election Starmer was in charge during the last election! Astounding. Your attitude that the majority of working class people voted for Brexit is a bit condescending isn't it! Did I say Starmer was in charge during the last election? No. But he was one of the leading front benchers and probably the biggest mouthpiece for a second referendum because he mistakenly believed that was the way the wind was blowing, he only hears his own metropolitan bubble and echo chamber and does not listen to or understand working class voters. Why is it condescending? You said he was a socialist." Champagne socialist. And you haven't explained why you are against Brexit if you are a socialist. Or can't you? | |||
"And glad that it looks like Biden has won. Great that the EU will have Boris over a barrel now. He won't have is pal trump now. Won't make any difference but why on earth would you want the EU to have the UK over a barrel? Because Brexit is a bad idea and and it might mean we are kept closer to the EU. Brexit is the best thing this country has done for years and I'm not sure what you mean by closer to the EU Lol Mega lol. You may as well have posted "never take anything I say seriously". But the majority of people who voted on the issue would probably agree with me. Funny that eh The entire Brexit party would agree with you A ringing endorsement You confuse me with your stance on Brexit. Real socialists are against EU membership and the old Labour Party who at least stood for the working class were always against EEC/EU membership and campaigned to get out. What are you? A champagne socialist? What is a champagne socialist? Someone who has plenty of money and/or a guilty conscience about something and pretends to care for the working class but in reality despises them. A perfect example would be Keir Starmer So keir starmer 'hates the working class? Presumably once again you have mo evidence of this? Well the fact that he is the leader of a racist bullying party who ignored the working class by trying to get the result of the referendum overturned tells you a lot. He is an opportunistic chancer who doesn't care for the working class and understands them even less, like most of the current Labour Party. So why are you against Brexit if you are a socialist? You are full of nonsense today arent you Wanna provide a link to the bit in the report which claimed labour was a racist bullying party? Ignored the working class?what so every working class person voted Brexit? Another statement that can be shot down in flames The report found labour guilty of racim. And when Tom Watson said Luciana Berger was driven out of the party by racist bullies he was lying was he? And no not all working class voted for Brexit but the majority did and Starmer completely ignored and disrespected their decision. One of the main reasons Labour were thrashed in the election Starmer was in charge during the last election! Astounding. Your attitude that the majority of working class people voted for Brexit is a bit condescending isn't it! Did I say Starmer was in charge during the last election? No. But he was one of the leading front benchers and probably the biggest mouthpiece for a second referendum because he mistakenly believed that was the way the wind was blowing, he only hears his own metropolitan bubble and echo chamber and does not listen to or understand working class voters. Why is it condescending? You said he was a socialist. Champagne socialist. And you haven't explained why you are against Brexit if you are a socialist. Or can't you? " Because in all likelihood it's going to be a disaster and I also think its wise to do the opposite of what the likes of Farage,reece mogg and johnson tell me. Plus liverpool has benefitted greatly from European money,which is why the city voted to remain. Sort of dispelling your..all the wc wanted to leave myth. | |||
"And glad that it looks like Biden has won. Great that the EU will have Boris over a barrel now. He won't have is pal trump now. Won't make any difference but why on earth would you want the EU to have the UK over a barrel? Because Brexit is a bad idea and and it might mean we are kept closer to the EU. Brexit is the best thing this country has done for years and I'm not sure what you mean by closer to the EU Lol Mega lol. You may as well have posted "never take anything I say seriously". But the majority of people who voted on the issue would probably agree with me. Funny that eh The entire Brexit party would agree with you A ringing endorsement You confuse me with your stance on Brexit. Real socialists are against EU membership and the old Labour Party who at least stood for the working class were always against EEC/EU membership and campaigned to get out. What are you? A champagne socialist? What is a champagne socialist? Someone who has plenty of money and/or a guilty conscience about something and pretends to care for the working class but in reality despises them. A perfect example would be Keir Starmer So keir starmer 'hates the working class? Presumably once again you have mo evidence of this? Well the fact that he is the leader of a racist bullying party who ignored the working class by trying to get the result of the referendum overturned tells you a lot. He is an opportunistic chancer who doesn't care for the working class and understands them even less, like most of the current Labour Party. So why are you against Brexit if you are a socialist? You are full of nonsense today arent you Wanna provide a link to the bit in the report which claimed labour was a racist bullying party? Ignored the working class?what so every working class person voted Brexit? Another statement that can be shot down in flames The report found labour guilty of racim. And when Tom Watson said Luciana Berger was driven out of the party by racist bullies he was lying was he? And no not all working class voted for Brexit but the majority did and Starmer completely ignored and disrespected their decision. One of the main reasons Labour were thrashed in the election Starmer was in charge during the last election! Astounding. Your attitude that the majority of working class people voted for Brexit is a bit condescending isn't it! Did I say Starmer was in charge during the last election? No. But he was one of the leading front benchers and probably the biggest mouthpiece for a second referendum because he mistakenly believed that was the way the wind was blowing, he only hears his own metropolitan bubble and echo chamber and does not listen to or understand working class voters. Why is it condescending? " Sounds like a populist playbook answer folks. Metropolitan elites..blah..blah...blah...uk sovereingty...blah..blah..brexit good...blah...blah... We now have evidence this brand of political BS when challenged hasn’t got a leg to stand on. Just adjust the attitude, step back and wonder, do those you support really give a toss about you? | |||
"And glad that it looks like Biden has won. Great that the EU will have Boris over a barrel now. He won't have is pal trump now. Won't make any difference but why on earth would you want the EU to have the UK over a barrel? Because Brexit is a bad idea and and it might mean we are kept closer to the EU. Brexit is the best thing this country has done for years and I'm not sure what you mean by closer to the EU Lol Mega lol. You may as well have posted "never take anything I say seriously". But the majority of people who voted on the issue would probably agree with me. Funny that eh The entire Brexit party would agree with you A ringing endorsement You confuse me with your stance on Brexit. Real socialists are against EU membership and the old Labour Party who at least stood for the working class were always against EEC/EU membership and campaigned to get out. What are you? A champagne socialist? What is a champagne socialist? Someone who has plenty of money and/or a guilty conscience about something and pretends to care for the working class but in reality despises them. A perfect example would be Keir Starmer So keir starmer 'hates the working class? Presumably once again you have mo evidence of this? Well the fact that he is the leader of a racist bullying party who ignored the working class by trying to get the result of the referendum overturned tells you a lot. He is an opportunistic chancer who doesn't care for the working class and understands them even less, like most of the current Labour Party. So why are you against Brexit if you are a socialist? You are full of nonsense today arent you Wanna provide a link to the bit in the report which claimed labour was a racist bullying party? Ignored the working class?what so every working class person voted Brexit? Another statement that can be shot down in flames The report found labour guilty of racim. And when Tom Watson said Luciana Berger was driven out of the party by racist bullies he was lying was he? And no not all working class voted for Brexit but the majority did and Starmer completely ignored and disrespected their decision. One of the main reasons Labour were thrashed in the election Starmer was in charge during the last election! Astounding. Your attitude that the majority of working class people voted for Brexit is a bit condescending isn't it! Did I say Starmer was in charge during the last election? No. But he was one of the leading front benchers and probably the biggest mouthpiece for a second referendum because he mistakenly believed that was the way the wind was blowing, he only hears his own metropolitan bubble and echo chamber and does not listen to or understand working class voters. Why is it condescending? Sounds like a populist playbook answer folks. Metropolitan elites..blah..blah...blah...uk sovereingty...blah..blah..brexit good...blah...blah... We now have evidence this brand of political BS when challenged hasn’t got a leg to stand on. Just adjust the attitude, step back and wonder, do those you support really give a toss about you?" Hasn't got a leg to stand on? So do you want to explain the result of the last election? | |||
"And glad that it looks like Biden has won. Great that the EU will have Boris over a barrel now. He won't have is pal trump now. Won't make any difference but why on earth would you want the EU to have the UK over a barrel? Because Brexit is a bad idea and and it might mean we are kept closer to the EU. Brexit is the best thing this country has done for years and I'm not sure what you mean by closer to the EU Lol Mega lol. You may as well have posted "never take anything I say seriously". But the majority of people who voted on the issue would probably agree with me. Funny that eh The entire Brexit party would agree with you A ringing endorsement You confuse me with your stance on Brexit. Real socialists are against EU membership and the old Labour Party who at least stood for the working class were always against EEC/EU membership and campaigned to get out. What are you? A champagne socialist? What is a champagne socialist? Someone who has plenty of money and/or a guilty conscience about something and pretends to care for the working class but in reality despises them. A perfect example would be Keir Starmer So keir starmer 'hates the working class? Presumably once again you have mo evidence of this? Well the fact that he is the leader of a racist bullying party who ignored the working class by trying to get the result of the referendum overturned tells you a lot. He is an opportunistic chancer who doesn't care for the working class and understands them even less, like most of the current Labour Party. So why are you against Brexit if you are a socialist? You are full of nonsense today arent you Wanna provide a link to the bit in the report which claimed labour was a racist bullying party? Ignored the working class?what so every working class person voted Brexit? Another statement that can be shot down in flames The report found labour guilty of racim. And when Tom Watson said Luciana Berger was driven out of the party by racist bullies he was lying was he? And no not all working class voted for Brexit but the majority did and Starmer completely ignored and disrespected their decision. One of the main reasons Labour were thrashed in the election Starmer was in charge during the last election! Astounding. Your attitude that the majority of working class people voted for Brexit is a bit condescending isn't it! Did I say Starmer was in charge during the last election? No. But he was one of the leading front benchers and probably the biggest mouthpiece for a second referendum because he mistakenly believed that was the way the wind was blowing, he only hears his own metropolitan bubble and echo chamber and does not listen to or understand working class voters. Why is it condescending? Sounds like a populist playbook answer folks. Metropolitan elites..blah..blah...blah...uk sovereingty...blah..blah..brexit good...blah...blah... We now have evidence this brand of political BS when challenged hasn’t got a leg to stand on. Just adjust the attitude, step back and wonder, do those you support really give a toss about you? Hasn't got a leg to stand on? So do you want to explain the result of the last election?" Sorry to jump in. But citing evidence about how malleable the electorate are is kind of a weird argument here. Just because people are easily fooled by popularist politics, doesn't mean that the agenda is transparent and honest, nor does it mean that it stands up to scrutiny. | |||
"And glad that it looks like Biden has won. Great that the EU will have Boris over a barrel now. He won't have is pal trump now. Won't make any difference but why on earth would you want the EU to have the UK over a barrel? Because Brexit is a bad idea and and it might mean we are kept closer to the EU. Brexit is the best thing this country has done for years and I'm not sure what you mean by closer to the EU Lol Mega lol. You may as well have posted "never take anything I say seriously". But the majority of people who voted on the issue would probably agree with me. Funny that eh The entire Brexit party would agree with you A ringing endorsement You confuse me with your stance on Brexit. Real socialists are against EU membership and the old Labour Party who at least stood for the working class were always against EEC/EU membership and campaigned to get out. What are you? A champagne socialist? What is a champagne socialist? Someone who has plenty of money and/or a guilty conscience about something and pretends to care for the working class but in reality despises them. A perfect example would be Keir Starmer So keir starmer 'hates the working class? Presumably once again you have mo evidence of this? Well the fact that he is the leader of a racist bullying party who ignored the working class by trying to get the result of the referendum overturned tells you a lot. He is an opportunistic chancer who doesn't care for the working class and understands them even less, like most of the current Labour Party. So why are you against Brexit if you are a socialist? You are full of nonsense today arent you Wanna provide a link to the bit in the report which claimed labour was a racist bullying party? Ignored the working class?what so every working class person voted Brexit? Another statement that can be shot down in flames The report found labour guilty of racim. And when Tom Watson said Luciana Berger was driven out of the party by racist bullies he was lying was he? And no not all working class voted for Brexit but the majority did and Starmer completely ignored and disrespected their decision. One of the main reasons Labour were thrashed in the election Starmer was in charge during the last election! Astounding. Your attitude that the majority of working class people voted for Brexit is a bit condescending isn't it! Did I say Starmer was in charge during the last election? No. But he was one of the leading front benchers and probably the biggest mouthpiece for a second referendum because he mistakenly believed that was the way the wind was blowing, he only hears his own metropolitan bubble and echo chamber and does not listen to or understand working class voters. Why is it condescending? You said he was a socialist. Champagne socialist. And you haven't explained why you are against Brexit if you are a socialist. Or can't you? Because in all likelihood it's going to be a disaster and I also think its wise to do the opposite of what the likes of Farage,reece mogg and johnson tell me. Plus liverpool has benefitted greatly from European money,which is why the city voted to remain. Sort of dispelling your..all the wc wanted to leave myth." But you think it's wise to do what Cameron and the Tories tell you to do. Fair enough. I like scousers, spent a lot of good times in Liverpool but they never were the sharpest politically. And how many times do people have to be told there is no such thing as European money | |||
"And glad that it looks like Biden has won. Great that the EU will have Boris over a barrel now. He won't have is pal trump now. Won't make any difference but why on earth would you want the EU to have the UK over a barrel? Because Brexit is a bad idea and and it might mean we are kept closer to the EU. Brexit is the best thing this country has done for years and I'm not sure what you mean by closer to the EU Lol Mega lol. You may as well have posted "never take anything I say seriously". But the majority of people who voted on the issue would probably agree with me. Funny that eh The entire Brexit party would agree with you A ringing endorsement You confuse me with your stance on Brexit. Real socialists are against EU membership and the old Labour Party who at least stood for the working class were always against EEC/EU membership and campaigned to get out. What are you? A champagne socialist? What is a champagne socialist? Someone who has plenty of money and/or a guilty conscience about something and pretends to care for the working class but in reality despises them. A perfect example would be Keir Starmer So keir starmer 'hates the working class? Presumably once again you have mo evidence of this? Well the fact that he is the leader of a racist bullying party who ignored the working class by trying to get the result of the referendum overturned tells you a lot. He is an opportunistic chancer who doesn't care for the working class and understands them even less, like most of the current Labour Party. So why are you against Brexit if you are a socialist? You are full of nonsense today arent you Wanna provide a link to the bit in the report which claimed labour was a racist bullying party? Ignored the working class?what so every working class person voted Brexit? Another statement that can be shot down in flames The report found labour guilty of racim. And when Tom Watson said Luciana Berger was driven out of the party by racist bullies he was lying was he? And no not all working class voted for Brexit but the majority did and Starmer completely ignored and disrespected their decision. One of the main reasons Labour were thrashed in the election Starmer was in charge during the last election! Astounding. Your attitude that the majority of working class people voted for Brexit is a bit condescending isn't it! Did I say Starmer was in charge during the last election? No. But he was one of the leading front benchers and probably the biggest mouthpiece for a second referendum because he mistakenly believed that was the way the wind was blowing, he only hears his own metropolitan bubble and echo chamber and does not listen to or understand working class voters. Why is it condescending? Sounds like a populist playbook answer folks. Metropolitan elites..blah..blah...blah...uk sovereingty...blah..blah..brexit good...blah...blah... We now have evidence this brand of political BS when challenged hasn’t got a leg to stand on. Just adjust the attitude, step back and wonder, do those you support really give a toss about you? Hasn't got a leg to stand on? So do you want to explain the result of the last election? Sorry to jump in. But citing evidence about how malleable the electorate are is kind of a weird argument here. Just because people are easily fooled by popularist politics, doesn't mean that the agenda is transparent and honest, nor does it mean that it stands up to scrutiny. " So you are basically saying that people with a different opinion to yours are thick. Fair enough. You sound like a Labour wannabe mp. I rest my case | |||
"And glad that it looks like Biden has won. Great that the EU will have Boris over a barrel now. He won't have is pal trump now. Won't make any difference but why on earth would you want the EU to have the UK over a barrel? Because Brexit is a bad idea and and it might mean we are kept closer to the EU. Brexit is the best thing this country has done for years and I'm not sure what you mean by closer to the EU Lol Mega lol. You may as well have posted "never take anything I say seriously". But the majority of people who voted on the issue would probably agree with me. Funny that eh The entire Brexit party would agree with you A ringing endorsement You confuse me with your stance on Brexit. Real socialists are against EU membership and the old Labour Party who at least stood for the working class were always against EEC/EU membership and campaigned to get out. What are you? A champagne socialist? What is a champagne socialist? Someone who has plenty of money and/or a guilty conscience about something and pretends to care for the working class but in reality despises them. A perfect example would be Keir Starmer So keir starmer 'hates the working class? Presumably once again you have mo evidence of this? Well the fact that he is the leader of a racist bullying party who ignored the working class by trying to get the result of the referendum overturned tells you a lot. He is an opportunistic chancer who doesn't care for the working class and understands them even less, like most of the current Labour Party. So why are you against Brexit if you are a socialist? You are full of nonsense today arent you Wanna provide a link to the bit in the report which claimed labour was a racist bullying party? Ignored the working class?what so every working class person voted Brexit? Another statement that can be shot down in flames The report found labour guilty of racim. And when Tom Watson said Luciana Berger was driven out of the party by racist bullies he was lying was he? And no not all working class voted for Brexit but the majority did and Starmer completely ignored and disrespected their decision. One of the main reasons Labour were thrashed in the election Starmer was in charge during the last election! Astounding. Your attitude that the majority of working class people voted for Brexit is a bit condescending isn't it! Did I say Starmer was in charge during the last election? No. But he was one of the leading front benchers and probably the biggest mouthpiece for a second referendum because he mistakenly believed that was the way the wind was blowing, he only hears his own metropolitan bubble and echo chamber and does not listen to or understand working class voters. Why is it condescending? Sounds like a populist playbook answer folks. Metropolitan elites..blah..blah...blah...uk sovereingty...blah..blah..brexit good...blah...blah... We now have evidence this brand of political BS when challenged hasn’t got a leg to stand on. Just adjust the attitude, step back and wonder, do those you support really give a toss about you? Hasn't got a leg to stand on? So do you want to explain the result of the last election? Sorry to jump in. But citing evidence about how malleable the electorate are is kind of a weird argument here. Just because people are easily fooled by popularist politics, doesn't mean that the agenda is transparent and honest, nor does it mean that it stands up to scrutiny. So you are basically saying that people with a different opinion to yours are thick. Fair enough. You sound like a Labour wannabe mp. I rest my case " Steady on. You made up something there, then got offended by it, then tried to insult me, and then congratulated yourself. Take a moment, and consider how you might put your argument forward to counter the points being made. We're here to discuss, not make shit up about eachother and get annoyed. | |||
"And glad that it looks like Biden has won. Great that the EU will have Boris over a barrel now. He won't have is pal trump now. Won't make any difference but why on earth would you want the EU to have the UK over a barrel? Because Brexit is a bad idea and and it might mean we are kept closer to the EU. Brexit is the best thing this country has done for years and I'm not sure what you mean by closer to the EU Lol Mega lol. You may as well have posted "never take anything I say seriously". But the majority of people who voted on the issue would probably agree with me. Funny that eh The entire Brexit party would agree with you A ringing endorsement You confuse me with your stance on Brexit. Real socialists are against EU membership and the old Labour Party who at least stood for the working class were always against EEC/EU membership and campaigned to get out. What are you? A champagne socialist? What is a champagne socialist? Someone who has plenty of money and/or a guilty conscience about something and pretends to care for the working class but in reality despises them. A perfect example would be Keir Starmer So keir starmer 'hates the working class? Presumably once again you have mo evidence of this? Well the fact that he is the leader of a racist bullying party who ignored the working class by trying to get the result of the referendum overturned tells you a lot. He is an opportunistic chancer who doesn't care for the working class and understands them even less, like most of the current Labour Party. So why are you against Brexit if you are a socialist? You are full of nonsense today arent you Wanna provide a link to the bit in the report which claimed labour was a racist bullying party? Ignored the working class?what so every working class person voted Brexit? Another statement that can be shot down in flames The report found labour guilty of racim. And when Tom Watson said Luciana Berger was driven out of the party by racist bullies he was lying was he? And no not all working class voted for Brexit but the majority did and Starmer completely ignored and disrespected their decision. One of the main reasons Labour were thrashed in the election Starmer was in charge during the last election! Astounding. Your attitude that the majority of working class people voted for Brexit is a bit condescending isn't it! Did I say Starmer was in charge during the last election? No. But he was one of the leading front benchers and probably the biggest mouthpiece for a second referendum because he mistakenly believed that was the way the wind was blowing, he only hears his own metropolitan bubble and echo chamber and does not listen to or understand working class voters. Why is it condescending? You said he was a socialist. Champagne socialist. And you haven't explained why you are against Brexit if you are a socialist. Or can't you? Because in all likelihood it's going to be a disaster and I also think its wise to do the opposite of what the likes of Farage,reece mogg and johnson tell me. Plus liverpool has benefitted greatly from European money,which is why the city voted to remain. Sort of dispelling your..all the wc wanted to leave myth. But you think it's wise to do what Cameron and the Tories tell you to do. Fair enough. I like scousers, spent a lot of good times in Liverpool but they never were the sharpest politically. And how many times do people have to be told there is no such thing as European money " Tut tut Again with the insults. They never wear the sharpest politically? What cos we stood up to that evil cunt Thatcher and didnt fall for the Farage bullshit? Well Thatcherism was a complete success and I'm sure Brexit will see us all have unicorns shitting gold in our front gardens. | |||
" Anyone with an ounce of knowledge about international politics should know that you do not interfere with or criticize the internal politics of one of you closest allies. I know that some on here would like to stick some of Trump's shit onto Boris, but this thread is barrel scr*ping stuff." Sure. That would be why Conservative MPs have been Tweeting anti-Biden memes, wouldn't it? Johnson has backed the wrong horse. Now he's got nothing much the US wants and nothing much the EU wants. And please don't run the inane "they want to sell their BMWs here." That's for tiny children. | |||
" Anyone with an ounce of knowledge about international politics should know that you do not interfere with or criticize the internal politics of one of you closest allies. I know that some on here would like to stick some of Trump's shit onto Boris, but this thread is barrel scr*ping stuff. Sure. That would be why Conservative MPs have been Tweeting anti-Biden memes, wouldn't it? Johnson has backed the wrong horse. Now he's got nothing much the US wants and nothing much the EU wants. And please don't run the inane "they want to sell their BMWs here." That's for tiny children. " Yep all this stuff about biden being pro IRA is coming from someone | |||
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"And glad that it looks like Biden has won. Great that the EU will have Boris over a barrel now. He won't have is pal trump now. Won't make any difference but why on earth would you want the EU to have the UK over a barrel? Because Brexit is a bad idea and and it might mean we are kept closer to the EU. Brexit is the best thing this country has done for years and I'm not sure what you mean by closer to the EU Lol Mega lol. You may as well have posted "never take anything I say seriously". But the majority of people who voted on the issue would probably agree with me. Funny that eh The entire Brexit party would agree with you A ringing endorsement You confuse me with your stance on Brexit. Real socialists are against EU membership and the old Labour Party who at least stood for the working class were always against EEC/EU membership and campaigned to get out. What are you? A champagne socialist? What is a champagne socialist? Someone who has plenty of money and/or a guilty conscience about something and pretends to care for the working class but in reality despises them. A perfect example would be Keir Starmer So keir starmer 'hates the working class? Presumably once again you have mo evidence of this? Well the fact that he is the leader of a racist bullying party who ignored the working class by trying to get the result of the referendum overturned tells you a lot. He is an opportunistic chancer who doesn't care for the working class and understands them even less, like most of the current Labour Party. So why are you against Brexit if you are a socialist? You are full of nonsense today arent you Wanna provide a link to the bit in the report which claimed labour was a racist bullying party? Ignored the working class?what so every working class person voted Brexit? Another statement that can be shot down in flames The report found labour guilty of racim. And when Tom Watson said Luciana Berger was driven out of the party by racist bullies he was lying was he? And no not all working class voted for Brexit but the majority did and Starmer completely ignored and disrespected their decision. One of the main reasons Labour were thrashed in the election Starmer was in charge during the last election! Astounding. Your attitude that the majority of working class people voted for Brexit is a bit condescending isn't it! Did I say Starmer was in charge during the last election? No. But he was one of the leading front benchers and probably the biggest mouthpiece for a second referendum because he mistakenly believed that was the way the wind was blowing, he only hears his own metropolitan bubble and echo chamber and does not listen to or understand working class voters. Why is it condescending? Sounds like a populist playbook answer folks. Metropolitan elites..blah..blah...blah...uk sovereingty...blah..blah..brexit good...blah...blah... We now have evidence this brand of political BS when challenged hasn’t got a leg to stand on. Just adjust the attitude, step back and wonder, do those you support really give a toss about you? Hasn't got a leg to stand on? So do you want to explain the result of the last election? Sorry to jump in. But citing evidence about how malleable the electorate are is kind of a weird argument here. Just because people are easily fooled by popularist politics, doesn't mean that the agenda is transparent and honest, nor does it mean that it stands up to scrutiny. So you are basically saying that people with a different opinion to yours are thick. Fair enough. You sound like a Labour wannabe mp. I rest my case " Just because I don’t trust brexiters more than I trust Johnson, Trump, Farage and other bullshitters, what will be the criteria by which you will measure the success of brexit? Just want to know so that we can come back to these criteria when the dust (or the shit) has settled. Unemployment rate is one of the main one for me. Give us your list. | |||
"The question is why? Thoughts?" Why? Because it'd be unstatesman like to be giving personal views on such a subject ever. Possibly the only statesman like thing Boris has done | |||
