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"Its a disgrace and those who voted againt it should be ashamed of themselves. When will people realise that the Tories are the party of the rich for the rich. They just like to line their own pockets and those of their friends. Do people vote for them because they think they are the best of a bad bunch."  | |||
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"Its a bloody disgrace that children are going hungry in 2020 We've made zero progress in 100 years " I think this all the time and corona has made it a lot worse for a lot more children but the bit I don't understand is before corona why were some children still going Hungry how is this a thing. | |||
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"Its a bloody disgrace that children are going hungry in 2020 We've made zero progress in 100 years I think this all the time and corona has made it a lot worse for a lot more children but the bit I don't understand is before corona why were some children still going Hungry how is this a thing. " Because people are struggling to survive..even people who are working. Whilst consultatants get paid 6k a day working for Circo and we turn a blind eye. | |||
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"Its a bloody disgrace that children are going hungry in 2020 We've made zero progress in 100 years I think this all the time and corona has made it a lot worse for a lot more children but the bit I don't understand is before corona why were some children still going Hungry how is this a thing. Because people are struggling to survive..even people who are working. Whilst consultatants get paid 6k a day working for Circo and we turn a blind eye." But even people struggling why are they not feeding there kids that they choose to have no one forced them to have kids so they should feed them food really isn't that expensive, in my eyes and I may be wrong the parent should give up every luxury going to save money to feed there kids. | |||
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"Its a bloody disgrace that children are going hungry in 2020 We've made zero progress in 100 years I think this all the time and corona has made it a lot worse for a lot more children but the bit I don't understand is before corona why were some children still going Hungry how is this a thing. Because people are struggling to survive..even people who are working. Whilst consultatants get paid 6k a day working for Circo and we turn a blind eye. But even people struggling why are they not feeding there kids that they choose to have no one forced them to have kids so they should feed them food really isn't that expensive, in my eyes and I may be wrong the parent should give up every luxury going to save money to feed there kids. " perhaps they are already doing that but are still struggling perhaps the parents have had their hours cut or lost jobs and are finding it hard at the moment let’s not bash the parents to much | |||
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"Get the over paid footballer to help out, I mean £650,000 a week wages. What a bloody joke. " who’s on that ? | |||
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"Its a bloody disgrace that children are going hungry in 2020 We've made zero progress in 100 years I think this all the time and corona has made it a lot worse for a lot more children but the bit I don't understand is before corona why were some children still going Hungry how is this a thing. Because people are struggling to survive..even people who are working. Whilst consultatants get paid 6k a day working for Circo and we turn a blind eye. But even people struggling why are they not feeding there kids that they choose to have no one forced them to have kids so they should feed them food really isn't that expensive, in my eyes and I may be wrong the parent should give up every luxury going to save money to feed there kids. " Circumstances change. People are giving up 'luxuries' like food for themselves to feed their children. Don't believe the poverty porn on TV. The majority are not choosing 50ibch tvs over food | |||
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"Get the over paid footballer to help out, I mean £650,000 a week wages. What a bloody joke. " Doubt he would put his money where his mouth is.. | |||
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"Its a bloody disgrace that children are going hungry in 2020 We've made zero progress in 100 years I think this all the time and corona has made it a lot worse for a lot more children but the bit I don't understand is before corona why were some children still going Hungry how is this a thing. Because people are struggling to survive..even people who are working. Whilst consultatants get paid 6k a day working for Circo and we turn a blind eye. But even people struggling why are they not feeding there kids that they choose to have no one forced them to have kids so they should feed them food really isn't that expensive, in my eyes and I may be wrong the parent should give up every luxury going to save money to feed there kids. " Say they do go without for their kids, then they end up out of a job or with just a fraction of their wage, what should they feed their kids that's inexpensive? Beans on toast? | |||
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"Get the over paid footballer to help out, I mean £650,000 a week wages. What a bloody joke. Doubt he would put his money where his mouth is.." who’s on 650k a week ? | |||
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"Its a bloody disgrace that children are going hungry in 2020 We've made zero progress in 100 years I think this all the time and corona has made it a lot worse for a lot more children but the bit I don't understand is before corona why were some children still going Hungry how is this a thing. Because people are struggling to survive..even people who are working. Whilst consultatants get paid 6k a day working for Circo and we turn a blind eye. But even people struggling why are they not feeding there kids that they choose to have no one forced them to have kids so they should feed them food really isn't that expensive, in my eyes and I may be wrong the parent should give up every luxury going to save money to feed there kids. perhaps they are already doing that but are still struggling perhaps the parents have had their hours cut or lost jobs and are finding it hard at the moment let’s not bash the parents to much " I don't really mean at the moment things are tough right now, but for the last 8 years we have been in a boom there has been so much work about so I just find it strange that some people can't afford to feed there children it's scary | |||
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"Get the over paid footballer to help out, I mean £650,000 a week wages. What a bloody joke. Doubt he would put his money where his mouth is.." And why should he. Hes speaking out as hes been there and saw how his Mum struggled when he was a kid. He is trying to do a good thing and as others have said in this day and age children shouldnt be going hungry. Its not his fault that he gets paid a ridiculous amount of money to kick ball around is it. | |||
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"Its a bloody disgrace that children are going hungry in 2020 We've made zero progress in 100 years I think this all the time and corona has made it a lot worse for a lot more children but the bit I don't understand is before corona why were some children still going Hungry how is this a thing. Because people are struggling to survive..even people who are working. Whilst consultatants get paid 6k a day working for Circo and we turn a blind eye. But even people struggling why are they not feeding there kids that they choose to have no one forced them to have kids so they should feed them food really isn't that expensive, in my eyes and I may be wrong the parent should give up every luxury going to save money to feed there kids. perhaps they are already doing that but are still struggling perhaps the parents have had their hours cut or lost jobs and are finding it hard at the moment let’s not bash the parents to much I don't really mean at the moment things are tough right now, but for the last 8 years we have been in a boom there has been so much work about so I just find it strange that some people can't afford to feed there children it's scary " I don’t think unless we are in their position we cant criticise them | |||
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"Get the over paid footballer to help out, I mean £650,000 a week wages. What a bloody joke. Doubt he would put his money where his mouth is.. And why should he. Hes speaking out as hes been there and saw how his Mum struggled when he was a kid. He is trying to do a good thing and as others have said in this day and age children shouldnt be going hungry. Its not his fault that he gets paid a ridiculous amount of money to kick ball around is it. " Not his fault at all, so let him help and pay... | |||
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"Its a disgrace and those who voted againt it should be ashamed of themselves. When will people realise that the Tories are the party of the rich for the rich. They just like to line their own pockets and those of their friends. Do people vote for them because they think they are the best of a bad bunch." Nothing to do with party politics, if it is why didn't Labour bring it in years ago, those on benefits who are entitled to free school meals are actually getting more than any time in the past under any government. | |||
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"Get the over paid footballer to help out, I mean £650,000 a week wages. What a bloody joke. Doubt he would put his money where his mouth is.. And why should he. Hes speaking out as hes been there and saw how his Mum struggled when he was a kid. He is trying to do a good thing and as others have said in this day and age children shouldnt be going hungry. Its not his fault that he gets paid a ridiculous amount of money to kick ball around is it. " absolutely. MR is doing what he can to highlight this,it should be all the govt who don't take their ridiculous pay rises & put back & support the people | |||
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"Its a bloody disgrace that children are going hungry in 2020 We've made zero progress in 100 years I think this all the time and corona has made it a lot worse for a lot more children but the bit I don't understand is before corona why were some children still going Hungry how is this a thing. Because people are struggling to survive..even people who are working. Whilst consultatants get paid 6k a day working for Circo and we turn a blind eye. But even people struggling why are they not feeding there kids that they choose to have no one forced them to have kids so they should feed them food really isn't that expensive, in my eyes and I may be wrong the parent should give up every luxury going to save money to feed there kids. perhaps they are already doing that but are still struggling perhaps the parents have had their hours cut or lost jobs and are finding it hard at the moment let’s not bash the parents to much I don't really mean at the moment things are tough right now, but for the last 8 years we have been in a boom there has been so much work about so I just find it strange that some people can't afford to feed there children it's scary I don’t think unless we are in their position we cant criticise them " No I can't criticise and I don't feel I am critiiciseing them I just think abit of personal responsibility to feed your own children in stead on expecting the tax payer to feed them I personally think instead of the goverment giving away food or money they should have goverment life coaches and accountants to deal with struggling family's to help and guide them to make them selves a better future giving some one free school meals during school holidays will not fix the long term problem that obviously is in there lives. | |||
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"Its a disgrace and those who voted againt it should be ashamed of themselves. When will people realise that the Tories are the party of the rich for the rich. They just like to line their own pockets and those of their friends. Do people vote for them because they think they are the best of a bad bunch. Nothing to do with party politics, if it is why didn't Labour bring it in years ago, those on benefits who are entitled to free school meals are actually getting more than any time in the past under any government." Ive no idea why Labour didnt bring it in , do you ? We are talking about the here and now. They may actually be getting more than they did with any past goverment but I dare say the cost of living has gone up too. | |||
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"Its a bloody disgrace that children are going hungry in 2020 We've made zero progress in 100 years I think this all the time and corona has made it a lot worse for a lot more children but the bit I don't understand is before corona why were some children still going Hungry how is this a thing. Because people are struggling to survive..even people who are working. Whilst consultatants get paid 6k a day working for Circo and we turn a blind eye. But even people struggling why are they not feeding there kids that they choose to have no one forced them to have kids so they should feed them food really isn't that expensive, in my eyes and I may be wrong the parent should give up every luxury going to save money to feed there kids. perhaps they are already doing that but are still struggling perhaps the parents have had their hours cut or lost jobs and are finding it hard at the moment let’s not bash the parents to much I don't really mean at the moment things are tough right now, but for the last 8 years we have been in a boom there has been so much work about so I just find it strange that some people can't afford to feed there children it's scary I don’t think unless we are in their position we cant criticise them No I can't criticise and I don't feel I am critiiciseing them I just think abit of personal responsibility to feed your own children in stead on expecting the tax payer to feed them I personally think instead of the goverment giving away food or money they should have goverment life coaches and accountants to deal with struggling family's to help and guide them to make them selves a better future giving some one free school meals during school holidays will not fix the long term problem that obviously is in there lives. " personally I think it’s a good thing that our taxes go towards helping others who are less fortunate than myself it’s life we work we pay taxes seems fair to me perhaps one day you and I may need help from the benefits system | |||
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"Its a bloody disgrace that children are going hungry in 2020 We've made zero progress in 100 years I think this all the time and corona has made it a lot worse for a lot more children but the bit I don't understand is before corona why were some children still going Hungry how is this a thing. Because people are struggling to survive..even people who are working. Whilst consultatants get paid 6k a day working for Circo and we turn a blind eye. But even people struggling why are they not feeding there kids that they choose to have no one forced them to have kids so they should feed them food really isn't that expensive, in my eyes and I may be wrong the parent should give up every luxury going to save money to feed there kids. perhaps they are already doing that but are still struggling perhaps the parents have had their hours cut or lost jobs and are finding it hard at the moment let’s not bash the parents to much I don't really mean at the moment things are tough right now, but for the last 8 years we have been in a boom there has been so much work about so I just find it strange that some people can't afford to feed there children it's scary " A boom? For the last 8 years we have been suffering austerity that has seen food bank use go through the roof. | |||
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"Its a bloody disgrace that children are going hungry in 2020 We've made zero progress in 100 years I think this all the time and corona has made it a lot worse for a lot more children but the bit I don't understand is before corona why were some children still going Hungry how is this a thing. Because people are struggling to survive..even people who are working. Whilst consultatants get paid 6k a day working for Circo and we turn a blind eye. But even people struggling why are they not feeding there kids that they choose to have no one forced them to have kids so they should feed them food really isn't that expensive, in my eyes and I may be wrong the parent should give up every luxury going to save money to feed there kids. " So only rich people can have kids? | |||
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"Get the over paid footballer to help out, I mean £650,000 a week wages. What a bloody joke. " Is it a footballers responsibility to feed kids? | |||
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"Get the over paid footballer to help out, I mean £650,000 a week wages. What a bloody joke. Doubt he would put his money where his mouth is.." He has done. | |||
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"Get the over paid footballer to help out, I mean £650,000 a week wages. What a bloody joke. " And he is on no where near that amount. | |||
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"Its a bloody disgrace that children are going hungry in 2020 We've made zero progress in 100 years I think this all the time and corona has made it a lot worse for a lot more children but the bit I don't understand is before corona why were some children still going Hungry how is this a thing. Because people are struggling to survive..even people who are working. Whilst consultatants get paid 6k a day working for Circo and we turn a blind eye. But even people struggling why are they not feeding there kids that they choose to have no one forced them to have kids so they should feed them food really isn't that expensive, in my eyes and I may be wrong the parent should give up every luxury going to save money to feed there kids. perhaps they are already doing that but are still struggling perhaps the parents have had their hours cut or lost jobs and are finding it hard at the moment let’s not bash the parents to much I don't really mean at the moment things are tough right now, but for the last 8 years we have been in a boom there has been so much work about so I just find it strange that some people can't afford to feed there children it's scary " Are you serious? | |||
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"Its a disgrace and those who voted againt it should be ashamed of themselves. When will people realise that the Tories are the party of the rich for the rich. They just like to line their own pockets and those of their friends. Do people vote for them because they think they are the best of a bad bunch. Nothing to do with party politics, if it is why didn't Labour bring it in years ago, those on benefits who are entitled to free school meals are actually getting more than any time in the past under any government." Incredible | |||
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"Its a bloody disgrace that children are going hungry in 2020 We've made zero progress in 100 years I think this all the time and corona has made it a lot worse for a lot more children but the bit I don't understand is before corona why were some children still going Hungry how is this a thing. Because people are struggling to survive..even people who are working. Whilst consultatants get paid 6k a day working for Circo and we turn a blind eye. But even people struggling why are they not feeding there kids that they choose to have no one forced them to have kids so they should feed them food really isn't that expensive, in my eyes and I may be wrong the parent should give up every luxury going to save money to feed there kids. So only rich people can have kids?" not what I said! stop trying to twist things | |||
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"Get the over paid footballer to help out, I mean £650,000 a week wages. What a bloody joke. Doubt he would put his money where his mouth is.. And why should he. Hes speaking out as hes been there and saw how his Mum struggled when he was a kid. He is trying to do a good thing and as others have said in this day and age children shouldnt be going hungry. Its not his fault that he gets paid a ridiculous amount of money to kick ball around is it. Not his fault at all, so let him help and pay..." As others have said he has. At the end of the day its not down to rich footballers actors pop stars or celebrities to feed this countries hungry kids . Its down to our goverment to help when parents for whatever reason struggle to fed their kids. | |||
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"Its a bloody disgrace that children are going hungry in 2020 We've made zero progress in 100 years I think this all the time and corona has made it a lot worse for a lot more children but the bit I don't understand is before corona why were some children still going Hungry how is this a thing. Because people are struggling to survive..even people who are working. Whilst consultatants get paid 6k a day working for Circo and we turn a blind eye. But even people struggling why are they not feeding there kids that they choose to have no one forced them to have kids so they should feed them food really isn't that expensive, in my eyes and I may be wrong the parent should give up every luxury going to save money to feed there kids. So only rich people can have kids? not what I said! stop trying to twist things " No one forced them to have kids? | |||
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"Its a bloody disgrace that children are going hungry in 2020 We've made zero progress in 100 years I think this all the time and corona has made it a lot worse for a lot more children but the bit I don't understand is before corona why were some children still going Hungry how is this a thing. Because people are struggling to survive..even people who are working. Whilst consultatants get paid 6k a day working for Circo and we turn a blind eye. But even people struggling why are they not feeding there kids that they choose to have no one forced them to have kids so they should feed them food really isn't that expensive, in my eyes and I may be wrong the parent should give up every luxury going to save money to feed there kids. perhaps they are already doing that but are still struggling perhaps the parents have had their hours cut or lost jobs and are finding it hard at the moment let’s not bash the parents to much I don't really mean at the moment things are tough right now, but for the last 8 years we have been in a boom there has been so much work about so I just find it strange that some people can't afford to feed there children it's scary " If your a single parent on a zero hours contract in a rented property it won't feel that it's been a boom time at all.. We have had nurses and police officers in London and the south east using food banks, pay rises have not kept up anywhere near inflation in fact nigh on all public sector workers have in real terms taken a drop in salary in the last ten years some up to 10%.. Except one group who retain an independent pay review body after getting rid of the others, guess who? Clue, they work in either Portcullis house or the Palace of Westminster.. | |||
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"Get the over paid footballer to help out, I mean £650,000 a week wages. What a bloody joke. " ffs no footballer in the U.K. gets paid that amount and even if he did it’s the job of the government | |||
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"Get the over paid footballer to help out, I mean £650,000 a week wages. What a bloody joke. ffs no footballer in the U.K. gets paid that amount and even if he did it’s the job of the government " Gareth Bale? (Tottenham pay him £220k to play for them and Real top him up with another £380k to not play for them) The next ten highest pale into insignificance as they are in the very paltry range of £375k to £200k a week . Someone keeps banging on about the shocking fact consultants are being paid £6k an hour and ”no one is worth that amount” and yet by my reckoning with an annual salary of in excess of £10million, this equates to being paid £275k for 90minutes of kicking around a round leather ball . Hypocrisy  | |||
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"The taxpayer paid £4.4 million in 2019 to subsidise food and drink at Parliament. How many free school meals would this provide if removed." subsidised food and drink as if they need that but tbf it’s gone on forever I’m sure labour could of tried to get rid of that if they wanted to | |||
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"Get the over paid footballer to help out, I mean £650,000 a week wages. What a bloody joke. ffs no footballer in the U.K. gets paid that amount and even if he did it’s the job of the government Gareth Bale? (Tottenham pay him £220k to play for them and Real top him up with another £380k to not play for them) The next ten highest pale into insignificance as they are in the very paltry range of £375k to £200k a week . Someone keeps banging on about the shocking fact consultants are being paid £6k an hour and ”no one is worth that amount” and yet by my reckoning with an annual salary of in excess of £10million, this equates to being paid £275k for 90minutes of kicking around a round leather ball . Hypocrisy "bale is on loan until end of season difference is football pays for itself by the gate and tv rights and sponsors consultants are paid by you the working public | |||
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"Get the over paid footballer to help out, I mean £650,000 a week wages. What a bloody joke. " Sadly , the footballer concerned does not want to hand over any of his own money , he simply wants the tax payer to pick up the tax . Many people who earn very little compared to him make extensive efforts to help the less well off by participating in fund raising events or church activities to help their choosen cause. This is admirable . Going to the government with a begging bowl on an issue which has already been resolved is hardly in the same league as those who choose to help on a voluntary basis . | |||
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"Get the over paid footballer to help out, I mean £650,000 a week wages. What a bloody joke. ffs no footballer in the U.K. gets paid that amount and even if he did it’s the job of the government Gareth Bale? (Tottenham pay him £220k to play for them and Real top him up with another £380k to not play for them) The next ten highest pale into insignificance as they are in the very paltry range of £375k to £200k a week . Someone keeps banging on about the shocking fact consultants are being paid £6k an hour and ”no one is worth that amount” and yet by my reckoning with an annual salary of in excess of £10million, this equates to being paid £275k for 90minutes of kicking around a round leather ball . Hypocrisy bale is on loan until end of season difference is football pays for itself by the gate and tv rights and sponsors consultants are paid by you the working public "Think about what you have just said | |||
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"Get the over paid footballer to help out, I mean £650,000 a week wages. What a bloody joke. Sadly , the footballer concerned does not want to hand over any of his own money , he simply wants the tax payer to pick up the tax . Many people who earn very little compared to him make extensive efforts to help the less well off by participating in fund raising events or church activities to help their choosen cause. This is admirable . Going to the government with a begging bowl on an issue which has already been resolved is hardly in the same league as those who choose to help on a voluntary basis . " have you any idea what this kid as dine to help other kids he’s a young lad that just broke into the big money amd he’s first thought is to help kids because he knows what hunger feels like you don’t know how much time and effort as gone into what he has done and all you want to do is slay the lad ffs he’s a roll model for the next generation so give him some respect ya tool | |||
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"Get the over paid footballer to help out, I mean £650,000 a week wages. What a bloody joke. Sadly , the footballer concerned does not want to hand over any of his own money , he simply wants the tax payer to pick up the tax . Many people who earn very little compared to him make extensive efforts to help the less well off by participating in fund raising events or church activities to help their choosen cause. This is admirable . Going to the government with a begging bowl on an issue which has already been resolved is hardly in the same league as those who choose to help on a voluntary basis . " Children are still going hungry, it hasn’t been resolved. | |||
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"Get the over paid footballer to help out, I mean £650,000 a week wages. What a bloody joke. ffs no footballer in the U.K. gets paid that amount and even if he did it’s the job of the government Gareth Bale? (Tottenham pay him £220k to play for them and Real top him up with another £380k to not play for them) The next ten highest pale into insignificance as they are in the very paltry range of £375k to £200k a week . Someone keeps banging on about the shocking fact consultants are being paid £6k an hour and ”no one is worth that amount” and yet by my reckoning with an annual salary of in excess of £10million, this equates to being paid £275k for 90minutes of kicking around a round leather ball . Hypocrisy "Comparing an it consultant to one of the most decorated footy players of recent times
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"Get the over paid footballer to help out, I mean £650,000 a week wages. What a bloody joke. ffs no footballer in the U.K. gets paid that amount and even if he did it’s the job of the government Gareth Bale? (Tottenham pay him £220k to play for them and Real top him up with another £380k to not play for them) The next ten highest pale into insignificance as they are in the very paltry range of £375k to £200k a week . Someone keeps banging on about the shocking fact consultants are being paid £6k an hour and ”no one is worth that amount” and yet by my reckoning with an annual salary of in excess of £10million, this equates to being paid £275k for 90minutes of kicking around a round leather ball . Hypocrisy bale is on loan until end of season difference is football pays for itself by the gate and tv rights and sponsors consultants are paid by you the working public
Think about what you have just said "Our taxes pay the consultants fees. Millions of people around the world pay to watch one of the most decorated footballers of recent years. Can you see the difference? | |||
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"Its a bloody disgrace that children are going hungry in 2020 We've made zero progress in 100 years I think this all the time and corona has made it a lot worse for a lot more children but the bit I don't understand is before corona why were some children still going Hungry how is this a thing. Because people are struggling to survive..even people who are working. Whilst consultatants get paid 6k a day working for Circo and we turn a blind eye." Any Consultant working on a a government contact will only have obtained the contract after going through a rigorous tendering procedure . They will need to be on an approved suppliers listing and in addition will be competing against other Consultants . A fairly detailed case would need to be prepared outlining their skills and when a contract is awarded there needs to be detailed documentation of the reasons as to why it was awarded. Most contracts will be awarded by the Civil Service , not the government . There may be certain exceptions in a time of crisis. | |||
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"Get the over paid footballer to help out, I mean £650,000 a week wages. What a bloody joke. ffs no footballer in the U.K. gets paid that amount and even if he did it’s the job of the government Gareth Bale? (Tottenham pay him £220k to play for them and Real top him up with another £380k to not play for them) The next ten highest pale into insignificance as they are in the very paltry range of £375k to £200k a week . Someone keeps banging on about the shocking fact consultants are being paid £6k an hour and ”no one is worth that amount” and yet by my reckoning with an annual salary of in excess of £10million, this equates to being paid £275k for 90minutes of kicking around a round leather ball . Hypocrisy "It's not the government paying the footballer, the consultants being paid £6k per day is in relation to the issue of the cost of funding free school meals.. It's a silly comparison to make.. | |||
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"Its a bloody disgrace that children are going hungry in 2020 We've made zero progress in 100 years I think this all the time and corona has made it a lot worse for a lot more children but the bit I don't understand is before corona why were some children still going Hungry how is this a thing. Because people are struggling to survive..even people who are working. Whilst consultatants get paid 6k a day working for Circo and we turn a blind eye. Any Consultant working on a a government contact will only have obtained the contract after going through a rigorous tendering procedure . They will need to be on an approved suppliers listing and in addition will be competing against other Consultants . A fairly detailed case would need to be prepared outlining their skills and when a contract is awarded there needs to be detailed documentation of the reasons as to why it was awarded. Most contracts will be awarded by the Civil Service , not the government . There may be certain exceptions in a time of crisis. " Do you just read of a script that they send out? | |||
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"Get the over paid footballer to help out, I mean £650,000 a week wages. What a bloody joke. ffs no footballer in the U.K. gets paid that amount and even if he did it’s the job of the government Gareth Bale? (Tottenham pay him £220k to play for them and Real top him up with another £380k to not play for them) The next ten highest pale into insignificance as they are in the very paltry range of £375k to £200k a week . Someone keeps banging on about the shocking fact consultants are being paid £6k an hour and ”no one is worth that amount” and yet by my reckoning with an annual salary of in excess of £10million, this equates to being paid £275k for 90minutes of kicking around a round leather ball . Hypocrisy bale is on loan until end of season difference is football pays for itself by the gate and tv rights and sponsors consultants are paid by you the working public
Think about what you have just said
Our taxes pay the consultants fees.
Millions of people around the world pay to watch one of the most decorated footballers of recent years.
Can you see the difference?"Making him a decorated player (what exactly do you mean by this ?  ) doesn't make him worth £200k a week.
Do you see the hypocrisy of your ”nobody is worth that much” statement ? | |||
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"Get the over paid footballer to help out, I mean £650,000 a week wages. What a bloody joke. ffs no footballer in the U.K. gets paid that amount and even if he did it’s the job of the government Gareth Bale? (Tottenham pay him £220k to play for them and Real top him up with another £380k to not play for them) The next ten highest pale into insignificance as they are in the very paltry range of £375k to £200k a week . Someone keeps banging on about the shocking fact consultants are being paid £6k an hour and ”no one is worth that amount” and yet by my reckoning with an annual salary of in excess of £10million, this equates to being paid £275k for 90minutes of kicking around a round leather ball . Hypocrisy
It's not the government paying the footballer, the consultants being paid £6k per day is in relation to the issue of the cost of funding free school meals..
It's a silly comparison to make.. "Sure I know that  it is however a perfectly valid comparison when others will incessantly bang on about a ridiculous amount of money being paid the one person.
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"Its a bloody disgrace that children are going hungry in 2020 We've made zero progress in 100 years I think this all the time and corona has made it a lot worse for a lot more children but the bit I don't understand is before corona why were some children still going Hungry how is this a thing. Because people are struggling to survive..even people who are working. Whilst consultatants get paid 6k a day working for Circo and we turn a blind eye. Any Consultant working on a a government contact will only have obtained the contract after going through a rigorous tendering procedure . They will need to be on an approved suppliers listing and in addition will be competing against other Consultants . A fairly detailed case would need to be prepared outlining their skills and when a contract is awarded there needs to be detailed documentation of the reasons as to why it was awarded. Most contracts will be awarded by the Civil Service , not the government . There may be certain exceptions in a time of crisis. " NO THEY DIDN'T.. It was done under the emergency legislation for the pandemic in which the normal tender process has been put aside and given the circumstances that's acceptable.. Everything you have written us untrue and has not happened, companies such as in financial services sector with no obvious record or history in the field of the NHS were awarded contracts for PPE whilst some with a track record of providing PPE were ignored and are selling their goods to Germany etc.. Where have you been this last seven months? | |||
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"Get the over paid footballer to help out, I mean £650,000 a week wages. What a bloody joke. ffs no footballer in the U.K. gets paid that amount and even if he did it’s the job of the government Gareth Bale? (Tottenham pay him £220k to play for them and Real top him up with another £380k to not play for them) The next ten highest pale into insignificance as they are in the very paltry range of £375k to £200k a week . Someone keeps banging on about the shocking fact consultants are being paid £6k an hour and ”no one is worth that amount” and yet by my reckoning with an annual salary of in excess of £10million, this equates to being paid £275k for 90minutes of kicking around a round leather ball . Hypocrisy bale is on loan until end of season difference is football pays for itself by the gate and tv rights and sponsors consultants are paid by you the working public
Think about what you have just said
Our taxes pay the consultants fees.
Millions of people around the world pay to watch one of the most decorated footballers of recent years.
Can you see the difference?
Making him a decorated player (what exactly do you mean by this ? ) doesn't make him worth £200k a week.
Do you see the hypocrisy of your ”nobody is worth that much” statement ?"Sigh. No one should be earning an obscene amount of money. But millions of people pay money to watch the greatest players on the planet play football. If people didnt want to watch them..no one would pay and they wouldnt be on ridiculous wages. I dont agree that some consultant gets paid 6k a day. Do I have a say?do I fuck. Quite what this has got to do with free schools meals is anyones guess but I guess it serves its purpose,as deflecting from the issue. | |||
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"Get the over paid footballer to help out, I mean £650,000 a week wages. What a bloody joke. ffs no footballer in the U.K. gets paid that amount and even if he did it’s the job of the government Gareth Bale? (Tottenham pay him £220k to play for them and Real top him up with another £380k to not play for them) The next ten highest pale into insignificance as they are in the very paltry range of £375k to £200k a week . Someone keeps banging on about the shocking fact consultants are being paid £6k an hour and ”no one is worth that amount” and yet by my reckoning with an annual salary of in excess of £10million, this equates to being paid £275k for 90minutes of kicking around a round leather ball . Hypocrisy bale is on loan until end of season difference is football pays for itself by the gate and tv rights and sponsors consultants are paid by you the working public
Think about what you have just said
Our taxes pay the consultants fees.
Millions of people around the world pay to watch one of the most decorated footballers of recent years.
Can you see the difference?"However consultants will only be employed where full time staff are not available or lack the necessary skills to undertake the work concerned . Generally they will be working on system improvements or on projects that will bring long term benefits to society . Their cost has to be balanced against the long term benefits which their projects deliver. | |||
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"Get the over paid footballer to help out, I mean £650,000 a week wages. What a bloody joke. ffs no footballer in the U.K. gets paid that amount and even if he did it’s the job of the government Gareth Bale? (Tottenham pay him £220k to play for them and Real top him up with another £380k to not play for them) The next ten highest pale into insignificance as they are in the very paltry range of £375k to £200k a week . Someone keeps banging on about the shocking fact consultants are being paid £6k an hour and ”no one is worth that amount” and yet by my reckoning with an annual salary of in excess of £10million, this equates to being paid £275k for 90minutes of kicking around a round leather ball . Hypocrisy bale is on loan until end of season difference is football pays for itself by the gate and tv rights and sponsors consultants are paid by you the working public
Think about what you have just said
Our taxes pay the consultants fees.
Millions of people around the world pay to watch one of the most decorated footballers of recent years.
Can you see the difference? However consultants will only be employed where full time staff are not available or lack the necessary skills to undertake the work concerned .
Generally they will be working on system improvements or on projects that will bring long term benefits to society . Their cost has to be balanced against the long term benefits which their projects deliver. "Are you human? Seriously. | |||
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"Get the over paid footballer to help out, I mean £650,000 a week wages. What a bloody joke. ffs no footballer in the U.K. gets paid that amount and even if he did it’s the job of the government Gareth Bale? (Tottenham pay him £220k to play for them and Real top him up with another £380k to not play for them) The next ten highest pale into insignificance as they are in the very paltry range of £375k to £200k a week . Someone keeps banging on about the shocking fact consultants are being paid £6k an hour and ”no one is worth that amount” and yet by my reckoning with an annual salary of in excess of £10million, this equates to being paid £275k for 90minutes of kicking around a round leather ball . Hypocrisy bale is on loan until end of season difference is football pays for itself by the gate and tv rights and sponsors consultants are paid by you the working public
Think about what you have just said
Our taxes pay the consultants fees.
Millions of people around the world pay to watch one of the most decorated footballers of recent years.
Can you see the difference? However consultants will only be employed where full time staff are not available or lack the necessary skills to undertake the work concerned .
Generally they will be working on system improvements or on projects that will bring long term benefits to society . Their cost has to be balanced against the long term benefits which their projects deliver.
Are you human?
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"This country needs a revolution but too many sheep have been sent to sleep by our world beating rags! Bloody hell! We’ve gone from a country that used to be striking all the time in the 70s to a country that accepts the most outrageous decisions without flinching! At what point do people start taking to the streets and smash everything? At what point do people wake up and realise the plebe is taken for a ride? This ‘I’m alright Jack society’ stinks! I’m not holding my breath. 30 years later, it looks like people are still in love with Thatcher who turned this country into what it has now become nowadays. She was the starting point to all this. " close the mines & put the miners out of work, take the milk away from the children... History repeating itself do you think?  | |||
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"Get the over paid footballer to help out, I mean £650,000 a week wages. What a bloody joke. ffs no footballer in the U.K. gets paid that amount and even if he did it’s the job of the government Gareth Bale? (Tottenham pay him £220k to play for them and Real top him up with another £380k to not play for them) The next ten highest pale into insignificance as they are in the very paltry range of £375k to £200k a week . Someone keeps banging on about the shocking fact consultants are being paid £6k an hour and ”no one is worth that amount” and yet by my reckoning with an annual salary of in excess of £10million, this equates to being paid £275k for 90minutes of kicking around a round leather ball . Hypocrisy bale is on loan until end of season difference is football pays for itself by the gate and tv rights and sponsors consultants are paid by you the working public
Think about what you have just said
Our taxes pay the consultants fees.
Millions of people around the world pay to watch one of the most decorated footballers of recent years.
Can you see the difference? However consultants will only be employed where full time staff are not available or lack the necessary skills to undertake the work concerned .
Generally they will be working on system improvements or on projects that will bring long term benefits to society . Their cost has to be balanced against the long term benefits which their projects deliver. "That's not the case.. Are you oblivious to to what's been going on? They have been brought in because there are not the staff to deal with what is needed at the present time and granted it's unprecedented but it's also part of a bigger push to the private sector earning lucrative contracts instead of accountability to us the tax payer via civil servants.. It's similar to Dido Harding and the executive at the track and trace system which is failing to hit it's targets, all bar one are from the commercial sector some of whom are her ex colleagues and only one has a background in public health.. Sercos latest contract has no penalty clauses for not doing what it should achieve so if they fail they still get hundreds of millions.. | |||
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"Get the over paid footballer to help out, I mean £650,000 a week wages. What a bloody joke. ffs no footballer in the U.K. gets paid that amount and even if he did it’s the job of the government Gareth Bale? (Tottenham pay him £220k to play for them and Real top him up with another £380k to not play for them) The next ten highest pale into insignificance as they are in the very paltry range of £375k to £200k a week . Someone keeps banging on about the shocking fact consultants are being paid £6k an hour and ”no one is worth that amount” and yet by my reckoning with an annual salary of in excess of £10million, this equates to being paid £275k for 90minutes of kicking around a round leather ball . Hypocrisy bale is on loan until end of season difference is football pays for itself by the gate and tv rights and sponsors consultants are paid by you the working public
Think about what you have just said
Our taxes pay the consultants fees.
Millions of people around the world pay to watch one of the most decorated footballers of recent years.
Can you see the difference?
Making him a decorated player (what exactly do you mean by this ? ) doesn't make him worth £200k a week.
Do you see the hypocrisy of your ”nobody is worth that much” statement ?"just like the consultant who as worked hard to get where he is Rashford as been going to the academy after school weekends school holidays for almost ten yrs before he made it big time thousands like him don’t just because he’s used his body and the comsultant used his mind doesn’t mean he isn’t deserving | |||
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"Get the over paid footballer to help out, I mean £650,000 a week wages. What a bloody joke. ffs no footballer in the U.K. gets paid that amount and even if he did it’s the job of the government Gareth Bale? (Tottenham pay him £220k to play for them and Real top him up with another £380k to not play for them) The next ten highest pale into insignificance as they are in the very paltry range of £375k to £200k a week . Someone keeps banging on about the shocking fact consultants are being paid £6k an hour and ”no one is worth that amount” and yet by my reckoning with an annual salary of in excess of £10million, this equates to being paid £275k for 90minutes of kicking around a round leather ball . Hypocrisy
It's not the government paying the footballer, the consultants being paid £6k per day is in relation to the issue of the cost of funding free school meals..
It's a silly comparison to make..
Sure I know that it is however a perfectly valid comparison when others will incessantly bang on about a ridiculous amount of money being paid the one person.
However "Who pays for these consultants? Who pays Marcus Rashfords wages? | |||
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"Get the over paid footballer to help out, I mean £650,000 a week wages. What a bloody joke. ffs no footballer in the U.K. gets paid that amount and even if he did it’s the job of the government Gareth Bale? (Tottenham pay him £220k to play for them and Real top him up with another £380k to not play for them) The next ten highest pale into insignificance as they are in the very paltry range of £375k to £200k a week . Someone keeps banging on about the shocking fact consultants are being paid £6k an hour and ”no one is worth that amount” and yet by my reckoning with an annual salary of in excess of £10million, this equates to being paid £275k for 90minutes of kicking around a round leather ball . Hypocrisy
It's not the government paying the footballer, the consultants being paid £6k per day is in relation to the issue of the cost of funding free school meals..
It's a silly comparison to make..
Sure I know that it is however a perfectly valid comparison when others will incessantly bang on about a ridiculous amount of money being paid the one person.
However
Who pays for these consultants? Who pays Marcus Rashfords wages? "To be simplistic, both are paid by joe public. | |||
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"Get the over paid footballer to help out, I mean £650,000 a week wages. What a bloody joke. ffs no footballer in the U.K. gets paid that amount and even if he did it’s the job of the government Gareth Bale? (Tottenham pay him £220k to play for them and Real top him up with another £380k to not play for them) The next ten highest pale into insignificance as they are in the very paltry range of £375k to £200k a week . Someone keeps banging on about the shocking fact consultants are being paid £6k an hour and ”no one is worth that amount” and yet by my reckoning with an annual salary of in excess of £10million, this equates to being paid £275k for 90minutes of kicking around a round leather ball . Hypocrisy
It's not the government paying the footballer, the consultants being paid £6k per day is in relation to the issue of the cost of funding free school meals..
It's a silly comparison to make..
Sure I know that it is however a perfectly valid comparison when others will incessantly bang on about a ridiculous amount of money being paid the one person.
However
Who pays for these consultants? Who pays Marcus Rashfords wages?
To be simplistic, both are paid by joe public. "One is voluntary The other isnt | |||
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"Get the over paid footballer to help out, I mean £650,000 a week wages. What a bloody joke. Doubt he would put his money where his mouth is.. who’s on 650k a week ?" Try Bales for a start | |||
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"Get the over paid footballer to help out, I mean £650,000 a week wages. What a bloody joke. ffs no footballer in the U.K. gets paid that amount and even if he did it’s the job of the government Gareth Bale? (Tottenham pay him £220k to play for them and Real top him up with another £380k to not play for them) The next ten highest pale into insignificance as they are in the very paltry range of £375k to £200k a week . Someone keeps banging on about the shocking fact consultants are being paid £6k an hour and ”no one is worth that amount” and yet by my reckoning with an annual salary of in excess of £10million, this equates to being paid £275k for 90minutes of kicking around a round leather ball . Hypocrisy
It's not the government paying the footballer, the consultants being paid £6k per day is in relation to the issue of the cost of funding free school meals..
It's a silly comparison to make..
Sure I know that it is however a perfectly valid comparison when others will incessantly bang on about a ridiculous amount of money being paid the one person.
However
Who pays for these consultants? Who pays Marcus Rashfords wages?
To be simplistic, both are paid by joe public. "Do we ‘all’ pay for Marcus Rashfords wages? | |||
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"Get the over paid footballer to help out, I mean £650,000 a week wages. What a bloody joke. Doubt he would put his money where his mouth is.. who’s on 650k a week ? Try Bales for a start" Yeah, and he is worth every penny | |||
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"Get the over paid footballer to help out, I mean £650,000 a week wages. What a bloody joke. ffs no footballer in the U.K. gets paid that amount and even if he did it’s the job of the government Gareth Bale? (Tottenham pay him £220k to play for them and Real top him up with another £380k to not play for them) The next ten highest pale into insignificance as they are in the very paltry range of £375k to £200k a week . Someone keeps banging on about the shocking fact consultants are being paid £6k an hour and ”no one is worth that amount” and yet by my reckoning with an annual salary of in excess of £10million, this equates to being paid £275k for 90minutes of kicking around a round leather ball . Hypocrisy
It's not the government paying the footballer, the consultants being paid £6k per day is in relation to the issue of the cost of funding free school meals..
It's a silly comparison to make..
Sure I know that it is however a perfectly valid comparison when others will incessantly bang on about a ridiculous amount of money being paid the one person.
However
Who pays for these consultants? Who pays Marcus Rashfords wages?
To be simplistic, both are paid by joe public.
Do we ‘all’ pay for Marcus Rashfords wages? "Anyone that has Sky does,or watches Sky in a pub. | |||
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"Get the over paid footballer to help out, I mean £650,000 a week wages. What a bloody joke. ffs no footballer in the U.K. gets paid that amount and even if he did it’s the job of the government Gareth Bale? (Tottenham pay him £220k to play for them and Real top him up with another £380k to not play for them) The next ten highest pale into insignificance as they are in the very paltry range of £375k to £200k a week . Someone keeps banging on about the shocking fact consultants are being paid £6k an hour and ”no one is worth that amount” and yet by my reckoning with an annual salary of in excess of £10million, this equates to being paid £275k for 90minutes of kicking around a round leather ball . Hypocrisy
It's not the government paying the footballer, the consultants being paid £6k per day is in relation to the issue of the cost of funding free school meals..
It's a silly comparison to make..
Sure I know that it is however a perfectly valid comparison when others will incessantly bang on about a ridiculous amount of money being paid the one person.
However
Who pays for these consultants? Who pays Marcus Rashfords wages?
To be simplistic, both are paid by joe public.
Do we ‘all’ pay for Marcus Rashfords wages?
Anyone that has Sky does,or watches Sky in a pub. "shot in the mix of ppl paying at the gate and the huge amounts of sponsorship by Nike Adidas and hundreds more | |||
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"Get the over paid footballer to help out, I mean £650,000 a week wages. What a bloody joke. Doubt he would put his money where his mouth is.. who’s on 650k a week ? Try Bales for a start" He isnt on that much Plus he has been in Spain for the last 6 years. | |||
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"Get the over paid footballer to help out, I mean £650,000 a week wages. What a bloody joke. ffs no footballer in the U.K. gets paid that amount and even if he did it’s the job of the government Gareth Bale? (Tottenham pay him £220k to play for them and Real top him up with another £380k to not play for them) The next ten highest pale into insignificance as they are in the very paltry range of £375k to £200k a week . Someone keeps banging on about the shocking fact consultants are being paid £6k an hour and ”no one is worth that amount” and yet by my reckoning with an annual salary of in excess of £10million, this equates to being paid £275k for 90minutes of kicking around a round leather ball . Hypocrisy
It's not the government paying the footballer, the consultants being paid £6k per day is in relation to the issue of the cost of funding free school meals..
It's a silly comparison to make..
Sure I know that it is however a perfectly valid comparison when others will incessantly bang on about a ridiculous amount of money being paid the one person.
However
Who pays for these consultants? Who pays Marcus Rashfords wages?
To be simplistic, both are paid by joe public.
Do we ‘all’ pay for Marcus Rashfords wages?
Anyone that has Sky does,or watches Sky in a pub. "Its therefore voluntary The comparison was ridiculous | |||
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"Get the over paid footballer to help out, I mean £650,000 a week wages. What a bloody joke. ffs no footballer in the U.K. gets paid that amount and even if he did it’s the job of the government Gareth Bale? (Tottenham pay him £220k to play for them and Real top him up with another £380k to not play for them) The next ten highest pale into insignificance as they are in the very paltry range of £375k to £200k a week . Someone keeps banging on about the shocking fact consultants are being paid £6k an hour and ”no one is worth that amount” and yet by my reckoning with an annual salary of in excess of £10million, this equates to being paid £275k for 90minutes of kicking around a round leather ball . Hypocrisy
It's not the government paying the footballer, the consultants being paid £6k per day is in relation to the issue of the cost of funding free school meals..
It's a silly comparison to make..
Sure I know that it is however a perfectly valid comparison when others will incessantly bang on about a ridiculous amount of money being paid the one person.
However
Who pays for these consultants? Who pays Marcus Rashfords wages?
To be simplistic, both are paid by joe public.
Do we ‘all’ pay for Marcus Rashfords wages?
Anyone that has Sky does,or watches Sky in a pub. "Is that ‘everybody’ ??? | |||
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"Get the over paid footballer to help out, I mean £650,000 a week wages. What a bloody joke. ffs no footballer in the U.K. gets paid that amount and even if he did it’s the job of the government Gareth Bale? (Tottenham pay him £220k to play for them and Real top him up with another £380k to not play for them) The next ten highest pale into insignificance as they are in the very paltry range of £375k to £200k a week . Someone keeps banging on about the shocking fact consultants are being paid £6k an hour and ”no one is worth that amount” and yet by my reckoning with an annual salary of in excess of £10million, this equates to being paid £275k for 90minutes of kicking around a round leather ball . Hypocrisy
It's not the government paying the footballer, the consultants being paid £6k per day is in relation to the issue of the cost of funding free school meals..
It's a silly comparison to make..
Sure I know that it is however a perfectly valid comparison when others will incessantly bang on about a ridiculous amount of money being paid the one person.
However
Who pays for these consultants? Who pays Marcus Rashfords wages?
To be simplistic, both are paid by joe public.
Do we ‘all’ pay for Marcus Rashfords wages?
Anyone that has Sky does,or watches Sky in a pub.
Is that ‘everybody’ ??? "Not "everybody" pays tax. | |||
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"Get the over paid footballer to help out, I mean £650,000 a week wages. What a bloody joke. ffs no footballer in the U.K. gets paid that amount and even if he did it’s the job of the government Gareth Bale? (Tottenham pay him £220k to play for them and Real top him up with another £380k to not play for them) The next ten highest pale into insignificance as they are in the very paltry range of £375k to £200k a week . Someone keeps banging on about the shocking fact consultants are being paid £6k an hour and ”no one is worth that amount” and yet by my reckoning with an annual salary of in excess of £10million, this equates to being paid £275k for 90minutes of kicking around a round leather ball . Hypocrisy
It's not the government paying the footballer, the consultants being paid £6k per day is in relation to the issue of the cost of funding free school meals..
It's a silly comparison to make..
Sure I know that it is however a perfectly valid comparison when others will incessantly bang on about a ridiculous amount of money being paid the one person.
However
Who pays for these consultants? Who pays Marcus Rashfords wages?
To be simplistic, both are paid by joe public.
Do we ‘all’ pay for Marcus Rashfords wages?
Anyone that has Sky does,or watches Sky in a pub.
Is that ‘everybody’ ???
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"Get the over paid footballer to help out, I mean £650,000 a week wages. What a bloody joke. Doubt he would put his money where his mouth is.. who’s on 650k a week ? Try Bales for a start He isnt on that much Plus he has been in Spain for the last 6 years." Another school day for you then.... Tottenham pay him around 280k pa to play for them and Real continue to top him up with 380k pw for not playing for them... So there you go...600k a week... and your view is driven by an opinion that no one is worth 6k a week... | |||
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"Get the over paid footballer to help out, I mean £650,000 a week wages. What a bloody joke. Doubt he would put his money where his mouth is.. who’s on 650k a week ? Try Bales for a start He isnt on that much Plus he has been in Spain for the last 6 years. Another school day for you then.... Tottenham pay him around 280k pa to play for them and Real continue to top him up with 380k pw for not playing for them... So there you go...600k a week... and your view is driven by an opinion that no one is worth 6k a week... "Have you got tired of comparing him to an it consultant now? | |||
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"Get the over paid footballer to help out, I mean £650,000 a week wages. What a bloody joke. Doubt he would put his money where his mouth is.. who’s on 650k a week ? Try Bales for a start He isnt on that much Plus he has been in Spain for the last 6 years. Another school day for you then.... Tottenham pay him around 280k pa to play for them and Real continue to top him up with 380k pw for not playing for them... So there you go...600k a week... and your view is driven by an opinion that no one is worth 6k a week...
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"Get the over paid footballer to help out, I mean £650,000 a week wages. What a bloody joke. Doubt he would put his money where his mouth is.. who’s on 650k a week ? Try Bales for a start He isnt on that much Plus he has been in Spain for the last 6 years. Another school day for you then.... Tottenham pay him around 280k pa to play for them and Real continue to top him up with 380k pw for not playing for them... So there you go...600k a week... and your view is driven by an opinion that no one is worth 6k a week...
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"Its a bloody disgrace that children are going hungry in 2020 We've made zero progress in 100 years I think this all the time and corona has made it a lot worse for a lot more children but the bit I don't understand is before corona why were some children still going Hungry how is this a thing. Because people are struggling to survive..even people who are working. Whilst consultatants get paid 6k a day working for Circo and we turn a blind eye. Any Consultant working on a a government contact will only have obtained the contract after going through a rigorous tendering procedure . They will need to be on an approved suppliers listing and in addition will be competing against other Consultants . A fairly detailed case would need to be prepared outlining their skills and when a contract is awarded there needs to be detailed documentation of the reasons as to why it was awarded. Most contracts will be awarded by the Civil Service , not the government . There may be certain exceptions in a time of crisis. NO THEY DIDN'T.. It was done under the emergency legislation for the pandemic in which the normal tender process has been put aside and given the circumstances that's acceptable.. Everything you have written us untrue and has not happened, companies such as in financial services sector with no obvious record or history in the field of the NHS were awarded contracts for PPE whilst some with a track record of providing PPE were ignored and are selling their goods to Germany etc.. Where have you been this last seven months?" | |||
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"Marcus rashford isn’t on 650k a week if you’re going to knock him at least get you’re facts straight "I was about to add that he's not on that much. In fact, (as far as I know) no player in the Premier League is! Also, he is campaigning in his spare time and helping to support children in communities nationwide. Something that our government is supposed to do considering it's their JOB and that we're in the middle of a PANDEMIC but voted not to. So your outrage is misguided. Kindly direct your anger to your nearest lowlife MP who voted against feeding children during such a difficult time. Cheers! | |||
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"Get the over paid footballer to help out, I mean £650,000 a week wages. What a bloody joke. Doubt he would put his money where his mouth is.. who’s on 650k a week ? Try Bales for a start He isnt on that much Plus he has been in Spain for the last 6 years. Another school day for you then.... Tottenham pay him around 280k pa to play for them and Real continue to top him up with 380k pw for not playing for them... So there you go...600k a week... and your view is driven by an opinion that no one is worth 6k a week... "Real Madrid have more money than sense...
Plus, the fact remains that outside of Bale (who's on loan ) no Premier league player is earning over 600k outright.
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"Some people really tie themselves up in knots seeking ways to say they want to deny food to children without actually stating they want to deny food to children. It's as if they know deep down they're taking the wrong side on this. I think children who need food should get food. You'd think that would be a rare topic we could all agree on." | |||
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"How do you decide who qualifies for free school dinners, or in these strange times, should all school age children be entitled to them?" I think its possibly means tested but dont quote me on that. In my day..adopts uncle Albert's voice..if your parents didnt work you qualified for some rubbery chips and custard for afters. | |||
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"Businesses, large and small are helping out as they see this is the right thing to do to help those in need. Councils of all political parties are helping out as they see this is the right thing to do to help those in need. Individuals of all creeds, colours, religions and political affiliations are helping out as they see this is the right thing to do to help those in need. But MP's on one side of the House (not all, but nearly all) are not willing to help out as THEY see this is the WRONG thing to do to help those in need. Makes you think as to who does and doesn't have a sense of social responsibility. " Do you remember the Big Society? That’s what it is. Politicians passing the buck to citizens like you and me, expecting us to do their job and alleviate every injustice in society that they inflict on society. In that respect we are a mini America but clearly the Conservative voters don’t care. They have put this lot in charge and they won’t even pay the price for this politically. It’s abject. It’s also why we have so many charity shops in our streets or why people have to run semi marathons Or organise charity events to raise funds for things that governments should sort out or fund. It’s despicable but they have managed to convince people that the needy are scroungers who should go and fuck themselves. Hats off to the Tory voters. No doubt that these kids would like to thank you. | |||
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"Businesses, large and small are helping out as they see this is the right thing to do to help those in need. Councils of all political parties are helping out as they see this is the right thing to do to help those in need. Individuals of all creeds, colours, religions and political affiliations are helping out as they see this is the right thing to do to help those in need. But MP's on one side of the House (not all, but nearly all) are not willing to help out as THEY see this is the WRONG thing to do to help those in need. Makes you think as to who does and doesn't have a sense of social responsibility. Do you remember the Big Society? That’s what it is. Politicians passing the buck to citizens like you and me, expecting us to do their job and alleviate every injustice in society that they inflict on society. In that respect we are a mini America but clearly the Conservative voters don’t care. They have put this lot in charge and they won’t even pay the price for this politically. It’s abject. It’s also why we have so many charity shops in our streets or why people have to run semi marathons Or organise charity events to raise funds for things that governments should sort out or fund. It’s despicable but they have managed to convince people that the needy are scroungers who should go and fuck themselves. Hats off to the Tory voters. No doubt that these kids would like to thank you. " Under any government there have always been charities and fund raising events. Many people enjoy taking an active part in these and helping good causes. MPs are doing a lot to help out and local authorities are allocated extra funds to help those most in need . The electorate voted last December and the party that was best deemed by the electorate returned to power to run the country. We voted in MPs to run the country on our behalf and make decisions ( not a professional footballer on a salary of £10 million pounds per annum ,) | |||
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"Businesses, large and small are helping out as they see this is the right thing to do to help those in need. Councils of all political parties are helping out as they see this is the right thing to do to help those in need. Individuals of all creeds, colours, religions and political affiliations are helping out as they see this is the right thing to do to help those in need. But MP's on one side of the House (not all, but nearly all) are not willing to help out as THEY see this is the WRONG thing to do to help those in need. Makes you think as to who does and doesn't have a sense of social responsibility. Do you remember the Big Society? That’s what it is. Politicians passing the buck to citizens like you and me, expecting us to do their job and alleviate every injustice in society that they inflict on society. In that respect we are a mini America but clearly the Conservative voters don’t care. They have put this lot in charge and they won’t even pay the price for this politically. It’s abject. It’s also why we have so many charity shops in our streets or why people have to run semi marathons Or organise charity events to raise funds for things that governments should sort out or fund. It’s despicable but they have managed to convince people that the needy are scroungers who should go and fuck themselves. Hats off to the Tory voters. No doubt that these kids would like to thank you. Under any government there have always been charities and fund raising events. Many people enjoy taking an active part in these and helping good causes. MPs are doing a lot to help out and local authorities are allocated extra funds to help those most in need . The electorate voted last December and the party that was best deemed by the electorate returned to power to run the country. We voted in MPs to run the country on our behalf and make decisions ( not a professional footballer on a salary of £10 million pounds per annum ,) " And once again you fail to see the connection of a system wherein serving MPs, ex chancellors amongst them command large salaries with the private sector perhaps for what the bring skills wise but also there is the influence and kudos their current carries.. Rashford is the same except he's not doing it for £100k per annum for a days 'work' per week, he's doing it to help those who need help now.. | |||
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"Businesses, large and small are helping out as they see this is the right thing to do to help those in need. Councils of all political parties are helping out as they see this is the right thing to do to help those in need. Individuals of all creeds, colours, religions and political affiliations are helping out as they see this is the right thing to do to help those in need. But MP's on one side of the House (not all, but nearly all) are not willing to help out as THEY see this is the WRONG thing to do to help those in need. Makes you think as to who does and doesn't have a sense of social responsibility. Do you remember the Big Society? That’s what it is. Politicians passing the buck to citizens like you and me, expecting us to do their job and alleviate every injustice in society that they inflict on society. In that respect we are a mini America but clearly the Conservative voters don’t care. They have put this lot in charge and they won’t even pay the price for this politically. It’s abject. It’s also why we have so many charity shops in our streets or why people have to run semi marathons Or organise charity events to raise funds for things that governments should sort out or fund. It’s despicable but they have managed to convince people that the needy are scroungers who should go and fuck themselves. Hats off to the Tory voters. No doubt that these kids would like to thank you. Under any government there have always been charities and fund raising events. Many people enjoy taking an active part in these and helping good causes. MPs are doing a lot to help out and local authorities are allocated extra funds to help those most in need . The electorate voted last December and the party that was best deemed by the electorate returned to power to run the country. We voted in MPs to run the country on our behalf and make decisions ( not a professional footballer on a salary of £10 million pounds per annum ,) " Charity is the result of a failing state. No charity shops in Germany, Italy or France. Don’t need them. European countries don’t have failing states but you hate the EU don’t you? People have been taught to do charity in this country. It’s become a way of life and a way of doing politics. And as we are a very compliant nation, we do. I’m fed up seeing people shaking buckets to collect money for every single disease or project that should be organised locally or nationally by the state. I want to pay fair taxes and I want the Daily Mail boss to pay tax and I want Amazon or Google to be their fair share of tax too. This way I wouldn’t have to shake a bucket to collect money for our local Air Ambulance for example. As if an air ambulance was a luxury that should be paid for this way. | |||
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"Businesses, large and small are helping out as they see this is the right thing to do to help those in need. Councils of all political parties are helping out as they see this is the right thing to do to help those in need. Individuals of all creeds, colours, religions and political affiliations are helping out as they see this is the right thing to do to help those in need. But MP's on one side of the House (not all, but nearly all) are not willing to help out as THEY see this is the WRONG thing to do to help those in need. Makes you think as to who does and doesn't have a sense of social responsibility. Do you remember the Big Society? That’s what it is. Politicians passing the buck to citizens like you and me, expecting us to do their job and alleviate every injustice in society that they inflict on society. In that respect we are a mini America but clearly the Conservative voters don’t care. They have put this lot in charge and they won’t even pay the price for this politically. It’s abject. It’s also why we have so many charity shops in our streets or why people have to run semi marathons Or organise charity events to raise funds for things that governments should sort out or fund. It’s despicable but they have managed to convince people that the needy are scroungers who should go and fuck themselves. Hats off to the Tory voters. No doubt that these kids would like to thank you. Under any government there have always been charities and fund raising events. Many people enjoy taking an active part in these and helping good causes. MPs are doing a lot to help out and local authorities are allocated extra funds to help those most in need . The electorate voted last December and the party that was best deemed by the electorate returned to power to run the country. We voted in MPs to run the country on our behalf and make decisions ( not a professional footballer on a salary of £10 million pounds per annum ,) " When you voted did you vote for a gvt that let children be hungry during the hols? Did you vote for a MP that would support breaking international law, did you vote for party that would award contracts to their mates without tendering, it for a gvt that would achieve the highest death rate in Europe? Where was all this on the manifesto of your rock star? We need hundreds of Rashfords but we also need people who start believing that they can make a difference by overthrowing this corrupt and shameless gvt! | |||
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" I dont even blame them tbh..Tories have always been cunts...its hardly a surprise. " insightful comment | |||
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" I dont even blame them tbh..Tories have always been cunts...its hardly a surprise. insightful comment" Well you would know. | |||
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" I dont even blame them tbh..Tories have always been cunts...its hardly a surprise. insightful comment Well you would know." predicted that would be your response | |||
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" I dont even blame them tbh..Tories have always been cunts...its hardly a surprise. insightful comment Well you would know. predicted that would be your response" Why dont you attempt a contribution as opposed to putting people to sleep? | |||
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" I dont even blame them tbh..Tories have always been cunts...its hardly a surprise. insightful comment Well you would know. predicted that would be your response Why dont you attempt a contribution as opposed to putting people to sleep?" no thanks | |||
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"It shows you how much of a farce the system is cos if it was anywhere near an election..they would have voted another way. They know for a fact this will be forgotten about in a new years. I dont even blame them tbh..Tories have always been cunts...its hardly a surprise. So red wall .once again..well done." I think this might be a miscalculation. When it comes to kids people are a lot less forgiving/forgetful (most people still remember Thatcher milk snatcher). Though I have to say I am impressed by the MPs who voted for it, now saying the government have made a mistake. That's quite special thinking. | |||
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"It shows you how much of a farce the system is cos if it was anywhere near an election..they would have voted another way. They know for a fact this will be forgotten about in a new years. I dont even blame them tbh..Tories have always been cunts...its hardly a surprise. So red wall .once again..well done. I think this might be a miscalculation. When it comes to kids people are a lot less forgiving/forgetful (most people still remember Thatcher milk snatcher). Though I have to say I am impressed by the MPs who voted for it, now saying the government have made a mistake. That's quite special thinking." It seems pretty clear they don't care about kids going hungry. Otherwise why would they have voted as they did? However they do seem to care about the votes they're gonna be losing from this in the future, due to growing public outrage. | |||
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"Its a bloody disgrace that children are going hungry in 2020 We've made zero progress in 100 years I think this all the time and corona has made it a lot worse for a lot more children but the bit I don't understand is before corona why were some children still going Hungry how is this a thing. Because people are struggling to survive..even people who are working. Whilst consultatants get paid 6k a day working for Circo and we turn a blind eye. But even people struggling why are they not feeding there kids that they choose to have no one forced them to have kids so they should feed them food really isn't that expensive, in my eyes and I may be wrong the parent should give up every luxury going to save money to feed there kids. " my down stairs neighbour is a single mum of three she works and is in receipt of benefits including free school meals for her three kids she budgets well the kids are well looked after and fed she budgets to provide two meals a day each for them during term time outside of term time she budgets to provide three each during both times it is a struggle she admits to having gone without herself several times during school holidays especially during the long summer break .last week she told us she had little food left after her kids were sent home from school to isolate due to a number of positive tests amongst staff meaning she she was having to provide extra meals she had not budgeted for .this is what the money or vouchers for those on free school meals would of helped with .she provides for them she budgeted for them for something out of her control to blow her carefull budgeting away but you won't here about that from the usual suspects just the usual phones tv and fags trope and holier than thou attitude .oh and free school meal vouchers never paid for sex but paying for sex by giving you girlfriends tech start up120k in public money certainly did she has even admitted it | |||
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"From my local authority: ”Any child may qualify for a free school meal if you receive one of the following benefits: Universal Credit with an annual earnings threshold that does not exceed £7,400. Income Support. Income Based Jobseekers Allowance. Income-related Employment and Support Allowance. Child Tax Credit (provided a parent is not entitled to Working Tax Credit) and have an annual income, as assessed by Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs, that does not exceed £16,190. Working Tax Credit run on - paid for 4 weeks after you stop qualifying for Working Tax Credit. Guaranteed Element of State Pension Credit. Support under part VI of the Immigration and Asylum Act 1999.”" And when the school is closed for holidays?. Which is the discussion! Over 20% of the year they don’t receive school meals. So if the government dreams they need free school meals due to the family income why does it think for 13 weeks a year they can go without? | |||
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"Johnson 'very proud"of the gmnt response but he still hasn't messeged rashford back yet. " On BBC Breakfast, Hancock flat out lied by saying there had been communication between Johnson and Rashford. Then Hancock was called on it by the interviewer, who knew no such thing had happened. And he fell back on the old "I understand..." wording instead of just saying he was wrong or had blatantly lied. | |||
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"Johnson 'very proud"of the gmnt response but he still hasn't messeged rashford back yet. On BBC Breakfast, Hancock flat out lied by saying there had been communication between Johnson and Rashford. Then Hancock was called on it by the interviewer, who knew no such thing had happened. And he fell back on the old "I understand..." wording instead of just saying he was wrong or had blatantly lied." Its second nature for them Boris is spectacularly underestimating the backlash of this | |||
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"Johnson 'very proud"of the gmnt response but he still hasn't messeged rashford back yet. " Don’t forget that Johnson was elected on a manifesto promising to let poor children be hungry! Rashford wasn’t. Rashford is a commie. | |||
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"Johnson 'very proud"of the gmnt response but he still hasn't messeged rashford back yet. On BBC Breakfast, Hancock flat out lied by saying there had been communication between Johnson and Rashford. Then Hancock was called on it by the interviewer, who knew no such thing had happened. And he fell back on the old "I understand..." wording instead of just saying he was wrong or had blatantly lied. Its second nature for them Boris is spectacularly underestimating the backlash of this " It's the arrogance of Johnson and his lot. They think they can do anything without repercussions. They think people will just move on with this issue and that it won't matter by the time the next election rolls around. I think they're wrong. People will remember this. And they'll remember Cummings' Barnard Castle trip. And they'll remember the huge amounts of cash chucked at mates in the private sector... The list goes on and on. But I think this issue is getting more traction than the other bad things done by this government as it's so simple to understand and so one-sided. Very few people will come down in favour of denying food to kids who need it. | |||
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"Johnson 'very proud"of the gmnt response but he still hasn't messeged rashford back yet. Don’t forget that Johnson was elected on a manifesto promising to let poor children be hungry! Rashford wasn’t. Rashford is a commie. " He is on the bbc website tucking into a hot dog. Its genuinely staggering just how clueless he is | |||
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"Johnson 'very proud"of the gmnt response but he still hasn't messeged rashford back yet. On BBC Breakfast, Hancock flat out lied by saying there had been communication between Johnson and Rashford. Then Hancock was called on it by the interviewer, who knew no such thing had happened. And he fell back on the old "I understand..." wording instead of just saying he was wrong or had blatantly lied. Its second nature for them Boris is spectacularly underestimating the backlash of this " When you think they have hit rock bottom, they still find find something even more outrageous. These scandalous decisions happen on a weekly basis with these clowns. In the big scheme of things, refusing to feed children is small beer for the tories. They can do much worse than this. Watch this space. They haven’t planned death penalty for disabled people yet. Maybe next week! | |||
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"Johnson 'very proud"of the gmnt response but he still hasn't messeged rashford back yet. On BBC Breakfast, Hancock flat out lied by saying there had been communication between Johnson and Rashford. Then Hancock was called on it by the interviewer, who knew no such thing had happened. And he fell back on the old "I understand..." wording instead of just saying he was wrong or had blatantly lied. Its second nature for them Boris is spectacularly underestimating the backlash of this It's the arrogance of Johnson and his lot. They think they can do anything without repercussions. They think people will just move on with this issue and that it won't matter by the time the next election rolls around. I think they're wrong. People will remember this. And they'll remember Cummings' Barnard Castle trip. And they'll remember the huge amounts of cash chucked at mates in the private sector... The list goes on and on. But I think this issue is getting more traction than the other bad things done by this government as it's so simple to understand and so one-sided. Very few people will come down in favour of denying food to kids who need it. I do hope you are right and people do remember the things they have done." Very few tories are going to hold this against them in 4 years time. | |||
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"Johnson 'very proud"of the gmnt response but he still hasn't messeged rashford back yet. On BBC Breakfast, Hancock flat out lied by saying there had been communication between Johnson and Rashford. Then Hancock was called on it by the interviewer, who knew no such thing had happened. And he fell back on the old "I understand..." wording instead of just saying he was wrong or had blatantly lied. Its second nature for them Boris is spectacularly underestimating the backlash of this It's the arrogance of Johnson and his lot. They think they can do anything without repercussions. They think people will just move on with this issue and that it won't matter by the time the next election rolls around. I think they're wrong. People will remember this. And they'll remember Cummings' Barnard Castle trip. And they'll remember the huge amounts of cash chucked at mates in the private sector... The list goes on and on. But I think this issue is getting more traction than the other bad things done by this government as it's so simple to understand and so one-sided. Very few people will come down in favour of denying food to kids who need it. I do hope you are right and people do remember the things they have done. Very few tories are going to hold this against them in 4 years time." In 4 years’ time we need a big campaign a la Led by Donkeys to recap all these shockers on a big scale and to refresh everyone’s memory but obviously the right wing press will be counterbalancing all this with countless of sleeping pills! | |||
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"Johnson 'very proud"of the gmnt response but he still hasn't messeged rashford back yet. On BBC Breakfast, Hancock flat out lied by saying there had been communication between Johnson and Rashford. Then Hancock was called on it by the interviewer, who knew no such thing had happened. And he fell back on the old "I understand..." wording instead of just saying he was wrong or had blatantly lied. Its second nature for them Boris is spectacularly underestimating the backlash of this It's the arrogance of Johnson and his lot. They think they can do anything without repercussions. They think people will just move on with this issue and that it won't matter by the time the next election rolls around. I think they're wrong. People will remember this. And they'll remember Cummings' Barnard Castle trip. And they'll remember the huge amounts of cash chucked at mates in the private sector... The list goes on and on. But I think this issue is getting more traction than the other bad things done by this government as it's so simple to understand and so one-sided. Very few people will come down in favour of denying food to kids who need it. I do hope you are right and people do remember the things they have done. Very few tories are going to hold this against them in 4 years time. In 4 years’ time we need a big campaign a la Led by Donkeys to recap all these shockers on a big scale and to refresh everyone’s memory but obviously the right wing press will be counterbalancing all this with countless of sleeping pills! " The mail and and the Express are hardly reporting it now...never mind in 4 years time. | |||
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"Ffs its not the government that would be paying. It would have to come from everyone's income tax. I've worked hard all my life and feed my own kids. Why should I now pay towards feeding your kids. If people cant afford kids then don't have them. I want a Ferrari but can't afford it. That's life. Some people think money grows on trees or governments can just print more £20 notes ." not the old I’ve worked hard all my life drivel ps you’re not the only one who’s worked and paid taxes good on you for being a good little human being and contributing to people less fortunate than yourself and perhaps people had kids when they could as you say afford them but perhaps circumstances have put them in a position where they are struggling and people like you who work so hard can pay a bit of tax and help them less fortunate just think for a minute what the world would be like without benefits if my tax helps people less fortunate than me then surely that’s a good thing | |||
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"Ffs its not the government that would be paying. It would have to come from everyone's income tax. I've worked hard all my life and feed my own kids. Why should I now pay towards feeding your kids. If people cant afford kids then don't have them. I want a Ferrari but can't afford it. That's life. Some people think money grows on trees or governments can just print more £20 notes ." Your point is noted Also noted is you don't want a blood transfusion, after all you've worked hard and made your own blood. Police, fire brigade, same. After all, if people can't afford to have their house burn down why should you pay into a community resource? Your attitude stinks of selfishness and I'm alright Jack. The chances of you losing your job through covid 19 and Brexit are significant. I suggest you remember that. | |||
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"Ffs its not the government that would be paying. It would have to come from everyone's income tax. I've worked hard all my life and feed my own kids. Why should I now pay towards feeding your kids. If people cant afford kids then don't have them. I want a Ferrari but can't afford it. That's life. Some people think money grows on trees or governments can just print more £20 notes ." My God... Comparing not being to afford to pay for food to not being able to afford a Ferrari, some people dare everything! 
Pretty much everyone works hard.You’re not an exception.
What a despicable way to approach life. Another one who has fallen into the me, me, me, me society.
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"Ffs its not the government that would be paying. It would have to come from everyone's income tax. I've worked hard all my life and feed my own kids. Why should I now pay towards feeding your kids. If people cant afford kids then don't have them. I want a Ferrari but can't afford it. That's life. Some people think money grows on trees or governments can just print more £20 notes ." Why are you angry at this, couple of quid to feed starving kids. But not angry about the hundreds of millions the Tories are giving to their mates? | |||
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"Ffs its not the government that would be paying. It would have to come from everyone's income tax. I've worked hard all my life and feed my own kids. Why should I now pay towards feeding your kids. If people cant afford kids then don't have them. I want a Ferrari but can't afford it. That's life. Some people think money grows on trees or governments can just print more £20 notes . " Actually, they are just printing money at present. It's not coming from taxes, it's not being borrowed, they are just "printing" extra. It's our own currency, we can print as much of it as we want. So far this year there's been about £200 billion created. So what's your complaint about 20 million to feed hungry kids again? | |||
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"Ffs its not the government that would be paying. It would have to come from everyone's income tax. I've worked hard all my life and feed my own kids. Why should I now pay towards feeding your kids. If people cant afford kids then don't have them. I want a Ferrari but can't afford it. That's life. Some people think money grows on trees or governments can just print more £20 notes ." And that my friends. Is why we have boris in mo 10. | |||
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"Ffs its not the government that would be paying. It would have to come from everyone's income tax. I've worked hard all my life and feed my own kids. Why should I now pay towards feeding your kids. If people cant afford kids then don't have them. I want a Ferrari but can't afford it. That's life. Some people think money grows on trees or governments can just print more £20 notes ." Anyone who has worked all their life, earned more than you and not used any of the services that taxation supports will have helped to pay the cost of any health care you and your family have received, education too if applicable.. That's how it works, why be so lacking in empathy for others in different circumstances? There is a thin line between suffering an injury, an illness etc that leads to losing an income.. | |||
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"Ffs its not the government that would be paying. It would have to come from everyone's income tax. I've worked hard all my life and feed my own kids. Why should I now pay towards feeding your kids. If people cant afford kids then don't have them. I want a Ferrari but can't afford it. That's life. Some people think money grows on trees or governments can just print more £20 notes . Actually, they are just printing money at present. It's not coming from taxes, it's not being borrowed, they are just "printing" extra. It's our own currency, we can print as much of it as we want. So far this year there's been about £200 billion created. So what's your complaint about 20 million to feed hungry kids again? " There's currently £246 billion that has to inserted into the system via bonds and gilts. | |||
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"Ffs its not the government that would be paying. It would have to come from everyone's income tax. I've worked hard all my life and feed my own kids. Why should I now pay towards feeding your kids. If people cant afford kids then don't have them. I want a Ferrari but can't afford it. That's life. Some people think money grows on trees or governments can just print more £20 notes . Anyone who has worked all their life, earned more than you and not used any of the services that taxation supports will have helped to pay the cost of any health care you and your family have received, education too if applicable.. That's how it works, why be so lacking in empathy for others in different circumstances? There is a thin line between suffering an injury, an illness etc that leads to losing an income.." Apparently every single person on benefits has never paid tax on their lives. And tbf to the poster..a lot of people probally feel that way..but will dress it up using a different argument. | |||
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"Ffs its not the government that would be paying. It would have to come from everyone's income tax. I've worked hard all my life and feed my own kids. Why should I now pay towards feeding your kids. If people cant afford kids then don't have them. I want a Ferrari but can't afford it. That's life. Some people think money grows on trees or governments can just print more £20 notes . Anyone who has worked all their life, earned more than you and not used any of the services that taxation supports will have helped to pay the cost of any health care you and your family have received, education too if applicable.. That's how it works, why be so lacking in empathy for others in different circumstances? There is a thin line between suffering an injury, an illness etc that leads to losing an income.. Apparently every single person on benefits has never paid tax on their lives. And tbf to the poster..a lot of people probally feel that way..but will dress it up using a different argument. " If anyone can't see how fragile job security can be, especially during this time with the impact on certain parts of the economy and the loss of people's incomes etc then they really do need a reality check.. | |||
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"Ffs its not the government that would be paying. It would have to come from everyone's income tax. I've worked hard all my life and feed my own kids. Why should I now pay towards feeding your kids. If people cant afford kids then don't have them. I want a Ferrari but can't afford it. That's life. Some people think money grows on trees or governments can just print more £20 notes . Anyone who has worked all their life, earned more than you and not used any of the services that taxation supports will have helped to pay the cost of any health care you and your family have received, education too if applicable.. That's how it works, why be so lacking in empathy for others in different circumstances? There is a thin line between suffering an injury, an illness etc that leads to losing an income.. Apparently every single person on benefits has never paid tax on their lives. And tbf to the poster..a lot of people probally feel that way..but will dress it up using a different argument. If anyone can't see how fragile job security can be, especially during this time with the impact on certain parts of the economy and the loss of people's incomes etc then they really do need a reality check.." Destroy trade unions Make job security fragile Result compliant workforce who are just happy to keep their own job. | |||
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"Ffs its not the government that would be paying. It would have to come from everyone's income tax. I've worked hard all my life and feed my own kids. Why should I now pay towards feeding your kids. If people cant afford kids then don't have them. I want a Ferrari but can't afford it. That's life. Some people think money grows on trees or governments can just print more £20 notes ." Sadly taking responsibility for your own affairs does not seem to be seen as a desirable attitude by a small but very vocal minority . There is an excellent letter in the national press today on this very topic. The author was bought up with two brothers on a low income family whose parents always ensured that they were fed and clothed. He clearly states that responsibity for feeding children is that of the parents , not the government and that where help is needed , it should be targeted , not given out on a blanket basis. These are the opinions that matter, not those of the Liberal elite or woke brigade. Councils have already been allocated extra funding to help those in need. Why are the families of those who claim to be so badly off not providing any help? | |||
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"Ffs its not the government that would be paying. It would have to come from everyone's income tax. I've worked hard all my life and feed my own kids. Why should I now pay towards feeding your kids. If people cant afford kids then don't have them. I want a Ferrari but can't afford it. That's life. Some people think money grows on trees or governments can just print more £20 notes . Sadly taking responsibility for your own affairs does not seem to be seen as a desirable attitude by a small but very vocal minority . There is an excellent letter in the national press today on this very topic. The author was bought up with two brothers on a low income family whose parents always ensured that they were fed and clothed. He clearly states that responsibity for feeding children is that of the parents , not the government and that where help is needed , it should be targeted , not given out on a blanket basis. These are the opinions that matter, not those of the Liberal elite or woke brigade. Councils have already been allocated extra funding to help those in need. Why are the families of those who claim to be so badly off not providing any help? " Congratulations, was it the daily mail or the express? As said above no wonder we have BoZo Johnson as leader with selfishness on the rise | |||
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"Ffs its not the government that would be paying. It would have to come from everyone's income tax. I've worked hard all my life and feed my own kids. Why should I now pay towards feeding your kids. If people cant afford kids then don't have them. I want a Ferrari but can't afford it. That's life. Some people think money grows on trees or governments can just print more £20 notes . Sadly taking responsibility for your own affairs does not seem to be seen as a desirable attitude by a small but very vocal minority . There is an excellent letter in the national press today on this very topic. The author was bought up with two brothers on a low income family whose parents always ensured that they were fed and clothed. He clearly states that responsibity for feeding children is that of the parents , not the government and that where help is needed , it should be targeted , not given out on a blanket basis. These are the opinions that matter, not those of the Liberal elite or woke brigade. Councils have already been allocated extra funding to help those in need. Why are the families of those who claim to be so badly off not providing any help? Congratulations, was it the daily mail or the express? As said above no wonder we have BoZo Johnson as leader with selfishness on the rise" The daily mail..he regularly gives us updates on the letters page. | |||
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"Ffs its not the government that would be paying. It would have to come from everyone's income tax. I've worked hard all my life and feed my own kids. Why should I now pay towards feeding your kids. If people cant afford kids then don't have them. I want a Ferrari but can't afford it. That's life. Some people think money grows on trees or governments can just print more £20 notes . Sadly taking responsibility for your own affairs does not seem to be seen as a desirable attitude by a small but very vocal minority . There is an excellent letter in the national press today on this very topic. The author was bought up with two brothers on a low income family whose parents always ensured that they were fed and clothed. He clearly states that responsibity for feeding children is that of the parents , not the government and that where help is needed , it should be targeted , not given out on a blanket basis. These are the opinions that matter, not those of the Liberal elite or woke brigade. Councils have already been allocated extra funding to help those in need. Why are the families of those who claim to be so badly off not providing any help? " What exactly is the woke brigade? | |||
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"Ffs its not the government that would be paying. It would have to come from everyone's income tax. I've worked hard all my life and feed my own kids. Why should I now pay towards feeding your kids. If people cant afford kids then don't have them. I want a Ferrari but can't afford it. That's life. Some people think money grows on trees or governments can just print more £20 notes . Sadly taking responsibility for your own affairs does not seem to be seen as a desirable attitude by a small but very vocal minority . There is an excellent letter in the national press today on this very topic. The author was bought up with two brothers on a low income family whose parents always ensured that they were fed and clothed. He clearly states that responsibity for feeding children is that of the parents , not the government and that where help is needed , it should be targeted , not given out on a blanket basis. These are the opinions that matter, not those of the Liberal elite or woke brigade. Councils have already been allocated extra funding to help those in need. Why are the families of those who claim to be so badly off not providing any help? What exactly is the woke brigade?" People who aren't racist. | |||
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"Ffs its not the government that would be paying. It would have to come from everyone's income tax. I've worked hard all my life and feed my own kids. Why should I now pay towards feeding your kids. If people cant afford kids then don't have them. I want a Ferrari but can't afford it. That's life. Some people think money grows on trees or governments can just print more £20 notes . Sadly taking responsibility for your own affairs does not seem to be seen as a desirable attitude by a small but very vocal minority . There is an excellent letter in the national press today on this very topic. The author was bought up with two brothers on a low income family whose parents always ensured that they were fed and clothed. He clearly states that responsibity for feeding children is that of the parents , not the government and that where help is needed , it should be targeted , not given out on a blanket basis. These are the opinions that matter, not those of the Liberal elite or woke brigade. Councils have already been allocated extra funding to help those in need. Why are the families of those who claim to be so badly off not providing any help? " That's bs.. Recognising that some in society are living in poverty and kids are hungry in half term has got fuck all to do with not accepting responsibility.. For the record Pat 72% of the families classed as living in poverty have at least one adult in work.. No one is saying it's ok for some who are capable of working to spend their lives sitting on their backsides living off the state, personally speaking it's something I've seen and it does my head in.. The problem seems to have become one that when such people are highlighted and rightly dealt with if they've been defrauding the system etc then certain media and people like you automatically lump everyone else in and then people with disabilities, long term mental health and even those who lose their jobs all get branded as scrounging feckless layabouts.. And yet the same media and people like you applaud tax evaders and laid them as successful when it's two sides of the same coin.. | |||
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"Ffs its not the government that would be paying. It would have to come from everyone's income tax. I've worked hard all my life and feed my own kids. Why should I now pay towards feeding your kids. If people cant afford kids then don't have them. I want a Ferrari but can't afford it. That's life. Some people think money grows on trees or governments can just print more £20 notes . Sadly taking responsibility for your own affairs does not seem to be seen as a desirable attitude by a small but very vocal minority . There is an excellent letter in the national press today on this very topic. The author was bought up with two brothers on a low income family whose parents always ensured that they were fed and clothed. He clearly states that responsibity for feeding children is that of the parents , not the government and that where help is needed , it should be targeted , not given out on a blanket basis. These are the opinions that matter, not those of the Liberal elite or woke brigade. Councils have already been allocated extra funding to help those in need. Why are the families of those who claim to be so badly off not providing any help? What exactly is the woke brigade? People who aren't racist." | |||
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"Ffs its not the government that would be paying. It would have to come from everyone's income tax. I've worked hard all my life and feed my own kids. Why should I now pay towards feeding your kids. If people cant afford kids then don't have them. I want a Ferrari but can't afford it. That's life. Some people think money grows on trees or governments can just print more £20 notes . Sadly taking responsibility for your own affairs does not seem to be seen as a desirable attitude by a small but very vocal minority . There is an excellent letter in the national press today on this very topic. The author was bought up with two brothers on a low income family whose parents always ensured that they were fed and clothed. He clearly states that responsibity for feeding children is that of the parents , not the government and that where help is needed , it should be targeted , not given out on a blanket basis. These are the opinions that matter, not those of the Liberal elite or woke brigade. Councils have already been allocated extra funding to help those in need. Why are the families of those who claim to be so badly off not providing any help? That's bs.. Recognising that some in society are living in poverty and kids are hungry in half term has got fuck all to do with not accepting responsibility.. For the record Pat 72% of the families classed as living in poverty have at least one adult in work.. No one is saying it's ok for some who are capable of working to spend their lives sitting on their backsides living off the state, personally speaking it's something I've seen and it does my head in.. The problem seems to have become one that when such people are highlighted and rightly dealt with if they've been defrauding the system etc then certain media and people like you automatically lump everyone else in and then people with disabilities, long term mental health and even those who lose their jobs all get branded as scrounging feckless layabouts.. And yet the same media and people like you applaud tax evaders and laid them as successful when it's two sides of the same coin.. " You are arguing with a daily mail reader. It cant be good for your soul. | |||
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"Ffs its not the government that would be paying. It would have to come from everyone's income tax. I've worked hard all my life and feed my own kids. Why should I now pay towards feeding your kids. If people cant afford kids then don't have them. I want a Ferrari but can't afford it. That's life. Some people think money grows on trees or governments can just print more £20 notes . Sadly taking responsibility for your own affairs does not seem to be seen as a desirable attitude by a small but very vocal minority . There is an excellent letter in the national press today on this very topic. The author was bought up with two brothers on a low income family whose parents always ensured that they were fed and clothed. He clearly states that responsibity for feeding children is that of the parents , not the government and that where help is needed , it should be targeted , not given out on a blanket basis. These are the opinions that matter, not those of the Liberal elite or woke brigade. Councils have already been allocated extra funding to help those in need. Why are the families of those who claim to be so badly off not providing any help? That's bs.. Recognising that some in society are living in poverty and kids are hungry in half term has got fuck all to do with not accepting responsibility.. For the record Pat 72% of the families classed as living in poverty have at least one adult in work.. No one is saying it's ok for some who are capable of working to spend their lives sitting on their backsides living off the state, personally speaking it's something I've seen and it does my head in.. The problem seems to have become one that when such people are highlighted and rightly dealt with if they've been defrauding the system etc then certain media and people like you automatically lump everyone else in and then people with disabilities, long term mental health and even those who lose their jobs all get branded as scrounging feckless layabouts.. And yet the same media and people like you applaud tax evaders and laid them as successful when it's two sides of the same coin.. You are arguing with a daily mail reader. It cant be good for your soul." Beginning to think bot or complete troll.. | |||
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"Has anyone had a look on their local council website to see how well/badly they provide information on the support that is available to residents during covid ?" I just did, at your suggestion. There is loads of support for businesses. Some for health. For residents, there is a page detailing all the support available. It's pretty good actually | |||
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"Has anyone had a look on their local council website to see how well/badly they provide information on the support that is available to residents during covid ? I just did, at your suggestion. There is loads of support for businesses. Some for health. For residents, there is a page detailing all the support available. It's pretty good actually " How dare you bring up facts on this thread? | |||
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"Has anyone had a look on their local council website to see how well/badly they provide information on the support that is available to residents during covid ? I just did, at your suggestion. There is loads of support for businesses. Some for health. For residents, there is a page detailing all the support available. It's pretty good actually How dare you bring up facts on this thread?" How about your local council - how well/badly do they provide information on support available? | |||
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"Has anyone had a look on their local council website to see how well/badly they provide information on the support that is available to residents during covid ? I just did, at your suggestion. There is loads of support for businesses. Some for health. For residents, there is a page detailing all the support available. It's pretty good actually How dare you bring up facts on this thread? How about your local council - how well/badly do they provide information on support available?" Just checked. The same as with Skysurfer. You could just look these things up for yourself if you wanted. Is this all a tactic to try and distract from the Tories' PR nightmare over the whole school meals shitstorm? | |||
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"Has anyone had a look on their local council website to see how well/badly they provide information on the support that is available to residents during covid ? I just did, at your suggestion. There is loads of support for businesses. Some for health. For residents, there is a page detailing all the support available. It's pretty good actually " My local council website offers considerable detail on support for businesses and some general info on resident support - but the website is a mess (it's been like this for some time, not just since covid) If I wanted to find out discreetly what I could ask for, the website offers very little, and I may not be all the comfortable calling the 03000 number. | |||
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"Has anyone had a look on their local council website to see how well/badly they provide information on the support that is available to residents during covid ? I just did, at your suggestion. There is loads of support for businesses. Some for health. For residents, there is a page detailing all the support available. It's pretty good actually My local council website offers considerable detail on support for businesses and some general info on resident support - but the website is a mess (it's been like this for some time, not just since covid) If I wanted to find out discreetly what I could ask for, the website offers very little, and I may not be all the comfortable calling the 03000 number. " So you are avoiding talking about the Tories voting down free school meals. Thought so. | |||
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"Has anyone had a look on their local council website to see how well/badly they provide information on the support that is available to residents during covid ? I just did, at your suggestion. There is loads of support for businesses. Some for health. For residents, there is a page detailing all the support available. It's pretty good actually My local council website offers considerable detail on support for businesses and some general info on resident support - but the website is a mess (it's been like this for some time, not just since covid) If I wanted to find out discreetly what I could ask for, the website offers very little, and I may not be all the comfortable calling the 03000 number. So you are avoiding talking about the Tories voting down free school meals. Thought so." You can talk about the Tories voting if you want. I'm interested in how easy it is for those most in need (whether they are already in the system or are new to it) to get help. I keep hearing about the money already provided for specific food/welfare support, but wonder how information and access to that money is disseminated by the councils . | |||
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"Has anyone had a look on their local council website to see how well/badly they provide information on the support that is available to residents during covid ? I just did, at your suggestion. There is loads of support for businesses. Some for health. For residents, there is a page detailing all the support available. It's pretty good actually My local council website offers considerable detail on support for businesses and some general info on resident support - but the website is a mess (it's been like this for some time, not just since covid) If I wanted to find out discreetly what I could ask for, the website offers very little, and I may not be all the comfortable calling the 03000 number. So you are avoiding talking about the Tories voting down free school meals. Thought so. You can talk about the Tories voting if you want. I'm interested in how easy it is for those most in need (whether they are already in the system or are new to it) to get help. I keep hearing about the money already provided for specific food/welfare support, but wonder how information and access to that money is disseminated by the councils . " You're still avoiding talking about the way the Tories voted down free school meals for needy children. Are you happy they did that? | |||
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"Has anyone had a look on their local council website to see how well/badly they provide information on the support that is available to residents during covid ? I just did, at your suggestion. There is loads of support for businesses. Some for health. For residents, there is a page detailing all the support available. It's pretty good actually My local council website offers considerable detail on support for businesses and some general info on resident support - but the website is a mess (it's been like this for some time, not just since covid) If I wanted to find out discreetly what I could ask for, the website offers very little, and I may not be all the comfortable calling the 03000 number. So you are avoiding talking about the Tories voting down free school meals. Thought so. You can talk about the Tories voting if you want. I'm interested in how easy it is for those most in need (whether they are already in the system or are new to it) to get help. I keep hearing about the money already provided for specific food/welfare support, but wonder how information and access to that money is disseminated by the councils . " With the free meal vouchers, we know that the kids and the families get them. With the other schemes, universal credit and co, it’s a good way for the gvt to muddy the waters, the real amount of money given etc... It’s easier to talk bullshit. They’re good at telling us that they’ve increased money for this or for that but some reason I don’t trust them. Child poverty has increased since they got in ( there have been plenty of studies on this with some shocking stats from unicef or the UN) but if you listen to the tories, it’s bullshit, child poverty is not an issue in this country and poor families have never had it so easy. Yeah... we know they are the champions of empathy and generosity for the less well off. Joke inside.. The bottom line is that these clowns don’t believe in helping the needy but they also have to make sure that the public believe that they do help them. Hence the bullshit, the the ‘yes but we’ve increased this and that’. | |||
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"I've paid into the NHS all my life so the blood transfusion is sorted. The Police fire etc the same. As for the house burning down guess what I've bought insurance with some of my wages. As for feeding your kids count me out. You feed them. Either work for a living or claim benefits. No.kids are starving in the UK. So I'm all right jack is ok. As for you Mr I cant cope with life. "I'm glad to know you will never lose your job. | |||
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"Ffs its not the government that would be paying. It would have to come from everyone's income tax. I've worked hard all my life and feed my own kids. Why should I now pay towards feeding your kids. If people cant afford kids then don't have them. I want a Ferrari but can't afford it. That's life. Some people think money grows on trees or governments can just print more £20 notes . Sadly taking responsibility for your own affairs does not seem to be seen as a desirable attitude by a small but very vocal minority . There is an excellent letter in the national press today on this very topic. The author was bought up with two brothers on a low income family whose parents always ensured that they were fed and clothed. He clearly states that responsibity for feeding children is that of the parents , not the government and that where help is needed , it should be targeted , not given out on a blanket basis. These are the opinions that matter, not those of the Liberal elite or woke brigade. Councils have already been allocated extra funding to help those in need. Why are the families of those who claim to be so badly off not providing any help? That's bs.. Recognising that some in society are living in poverty and kids are hungry in half term has got fuck all to do with not accepting responsibility.. For the record Pat 72% of the families classed as living in poverty have at least one adult in work.. No one is saying it's ok for some who are capable of working to spend their lives sitting on their backsides living off the state, personally speaking it's something I've seen and it does my head in.. The problem seems to have become one that when such people are highlighted and rightly dealt with if they've been defrauding the system etc then certain media and people like you automatically lump everyone else in and then people with disabilities, long term mental health and even those who lose their jobs all get branded as scrounging feckless layabouts.. And yet the same media and people like you applaud tax evaders and laid them as successful when it's two sides of the same coin.. " An intersting point about you describing peoole as scrounging feckless layabouts. That is a term which you chose to use. Believing in a sense of responsibility and ensuring that money is only directed to those who are most in need is very different to referring to people as scrounging feckless layabouts. Many people would find your remarks and description of them as highly offensive and shows a lack of respect for those in need . | |||
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"Ffs its not the government that would be paying. It would have to come from everyone's income tax. I've worked hard all my life and feed my own kids. Why should I now pay towards feeding your kids. If people cant afford kids then don't have them. I want a Ferrari but can't afford it. That's life. Some people think money grows on trees or governments can just print more £20 notes . Sadly taking responsibility for your own affairs does not seem to be seen as a desirable attitude by a small but very vocal minority . There is an excellent letter in the national press today on this very topic. The author was bought up with two brothers on a low income family whose parents always ensured that they were fed and clothed. He clearly states that responsibity for feeding children is that of the parents , not the government and that where help is needed , it should be targeted , not given out on a blanket basis. These are the opinions that matter, not those of the Liberal elite or woke brigade. Councils have already been allocated extra funding to help those in need. Why are the families of those who claim to be so badly off not providing any help? That's bs.. Recognising that some in society are living in poverty and kids are hungry in half term has got fuck all to do with not accepting responsibility.. For the record Pat 72% of the families classed as living in poverty have at least one adult in work.. No one is saying it's ok for some who are capable of working to spend their lives sitting on their backsides living off the state, personally speaking it's something I've seen and it does my head in.. The problem seems to have become one that when such people are highlighted and rightly dealt with if they've been defrauding the system etc then certain media and people like you automatically lump everyone else in and then people with disabilities, long term mental health and even those who lose their jobs all get branded as scrounging feckless layabouts.. And yet the same media and people like you applaud tax evaders and laid them as successful when it's two sides of the same coin.. An intersting point about you describing peoole as scrounging feckless layabouts. That is a term which you chose to use. Believing in a sense of responsibility and ensuring that money is only directed to those who are most in need is very different to referring to people as scrounging feckless layabouts. Many people would find your remarks and description of them as highly offensive and shows a lack of respect for those in need . " Its like reading a statement from the gmnt. | |||
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"Ffs its not the government that would be paying. It would have to come from everyone's income tax. I've worked hard all my life and feed my own kids. Why should I now pay towards feeding your kids. If people cant afford kids then don't have them. I want a Ferrari but can't afford it. That's life. Some people think money grows on trees or governments can just print more £20 notes . Sadly taking responsibility for your own affairs does not seem to be seen as a desirable attitude by a small but very vocal minority . There is an excellent letter in the national press today on this very topic. The author was bought up with two brothers on a low income family whose parents always ensured that they were fed and clothed. He clearly states that responsibity for feeding children is that of the parents , not the government and that where help is needed , it should be targeted , not given out on a blanket basis. These are the opinions that matter, not those of the Liberal elite or woke brigade. Councils have already been allocated extra funding to help those in need. Why are the families of those who claim to be so badly off not providing any help? That's bs.. Recognising that some in society are living in poverty and kids are hungry in half term has got fuck all to do with not accepting responsibility.. For the record Pat 72% of the families classed as living in poverty have at least one adult in work.. No one is saying it's ok for some who are capable of working to spend their lives sitting on their backsides living off the state, personally speaking it's something I've seen and it does my head in.. The problem seems to have become one that when such people are highlighted and rightly dealt with if they've been defrauding the system etc then certain media and people like you automatically lump everyone else in and then people with disabilities, long term mental health and even those who lose their jobs all get branded as scrounging feckless layabouts.. And yet the same media and people like you applaud tax evaders and laid them as successful when it's two sides of the same coin.. An intersting point about you describing peoole as scrounging feckless layabouts. That is a term which you chose to use. Believing in a sense of responsibility and ensuring that money is only directed to those who are most in need is very different to referring to people as scrounging feckless layabouts. Many people would find your remarks and description of them as highly offensive and shows a lack of respect for those in need . Its like reading a statement from the gmnt." Wasn’t Boris who can’t articulate two words in a row looking for a good spokesperson? It looks like we’ve found him. | |||
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"Has anyone had a look on their local council website to see how well/badly they provide information on the support that is available to residents during covid ? I just did, at your suggestion. There is loads of support for businesses. Some for health. For residents, there is a page detailing all the support available. It's pretty good actually My local council website offers considerable detail on support for businesses and some general info on resident support - but the website is a mess (it's been like this for some time, not just since covid) If I wanted to find out discreetly what I could ask for, the website offers very little, and I may not be all the comfortable calling the 03000 number. So you are avoiding talking about the Tories voting down free school meals. Thought so. You can talk about the Tories voting if you want. I'm interested in how easy it is for those most in need (whether they are already in the system or are new to it) to get help. I keep hearing about the money already provided for specific food/welfare support, but wonder how information and access to that money is disseminated by the councils . With the free meal vouchers, we know that the kids and the families get them. With the other schemes, universal credit and co, it’s a good way for the gvt to muddy the waters, the real amount of money given etc... It’s easier to talk bullshit. They’re good at telling us that they’ve increased money for this or for that but some reason I don’t trust them. Child poverty has increased since they got in ( there have been plenty of studies on this with some shocking stats from unicef or the UN) but if you listen to the tories, it’s bullshit, child poverty is not an issue in this country and poor families have never had it so easy. Yeah... we know they are the champions of empathy and generosity for the less well off. Joke inside.. The bottom line is that these clowns don’t believe in helping the needy but they also have to make sure that the public believe that they do help them. Hence the bullshit, the the ‘yes but we’ve increased this and that’. " . How could any reasonable person attempt to claim that a political party do not want to help the needy. ? Maybe you need to go through all the benefits available to people. I did just that on one of many sites available last week and while you would not be living a life of luxury there was more than sufficient to survive. The government have even increased Universal Credit to cover for any extra costs associated with Covid . I think the increase was about £20 per week. | |||
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"Has anyone had a look on their local council website to see how well/badly they provide information on the support that is available to residents during covid ? I just did, at your suggestion. There is loads of support for businesses. Some for health. For residents, there is a page detailing all the support available. It's pretty good actually My local council website offers considerable detail on support for businesses and some general info on resident support - but the website is a mess (it's been like this for some time, not just since covid) If I wanted to find out discreetly what I could ask for, the website offers very little, and I may not be all the comfortable calling the 03000 number. So you are avoiding talking about the Tories voting down free school meals. Thought so. You can talk about the Tories voting if you want. I'm interested in how easy it is for those most in need (whether they are already in the system or are new to it) to get help. I keep hearing about the money already provided for specific food/welfare support, but wonder how information and access to that money is disseminated by the councils . With the free meal vouchers, we know that the kids and the families get them. With the other schemes, universal credit and co, it’s a good way for the gvt to muddy the waters, the real amount of money given etc... It’s easier to talk bullshit. They’re good at telling us that they’ve increased money for this or for that but some reason I don’t trust them. Child poverty has increased since they got in ( there have been plenty of studies on this with some shocking stats from unicef or the UN) but if you listen to the tories, it’s bullshit, child poverty is not an issue in this country and poor families have never had it so easy. Yeah... we know they are the champions of empathy and generosity for the less well off. Joke inside.. The bottom line is that these clowns don’t believe in helping the needy but they also have to make sure that the public believe that they do help them. Hence the bullshit, the the ‘yes but we’ve increased this and that’. . How could any reasonable person attempt to claim that a political party do not want to help the needy. ? Maybe you need to go through all the benefits available to people. I did just that on one of many sites available last week and while you would not be living a life of luxury there was more than sufficient to survive. The government have even increased Universal Credit to cover for any extra costs associated with Covid . I think the increase was about £20 per week. " I’ll give you a similar example, you will have heard plenty of schools head teachers up and down the country saying that they can’t afford textbooks or basic equipment that they have had to make redundancies because of austerity and cuts in education etc.. Every time the tories are asked about this, they e come up with the same lie: We’ve never spent that much money on education. Schools budgets are rising etc.. This is exactly the same thing. The disgraceful tories don’t give a hoot about comprehensive education but can’t be seen killing state education so they tell us that they’ve poured money into the system when anybody who words in education knows it’s a lot of tosh. | |||
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"Has anyone had a look on their local council website to see how well/badly they provide information on the support that is available to residents during covid ? I just did, at your suggestion. There is loads of support for businesses. Some for health. For residents, there is a page detailing all the support available. It's pretty good actually My local council website offers considerable detail on support for businesses and some general info on resident support - but the website is a mess (it's been like this for some time, not just since covid) If I wanted to find out discreetly what I could ask for, the website offers very little, and I may not be all the comfortable calling the 03000 number. So you are avoiding talking about the Tories voting down free school meals. Thought so. You can talk about the Tories voting if you want. I'm interested in how easy it is for those most in need (whether they are already in the system or are new to it) to get help. I keep hearing about the money already provided for specific food/welfare support, but wonder how information and access to that money is disseminated by the councils . With the free meal vouchers, we know that the kids and the families get them. With the other schemes, universal credit and co, it’s a good way for the gvt to muddy the waters, the real amount of money given etc... It’s easier to talk bullshit. They’re good at telling us that they’ve increased money for this or for that but some reason I don’t trust them. Child poverty has increased since they got in ( there have been plenty of studies on this with some shocking stats from unicef or the UN) but if you listen to the tories, it’s bullshit, child poverty is not an issue in this country and poor families have never had it so easy. Yeah... we know they are the champions of empathy and generosity for the less well off. Joke inside.. The bottom line is that these clowns don’t believe in helping the needy but they also have to make sure that the public believe that they do help them. Hence the bullshit, the the ‘yes but we’ve increased this and that’. . How could any reasonable person attempt to claim that a political party do not want to help the needy. ? Maybe you need to go through all the benefits available to people. I did just that on one of many sites available last week and while you would not be living a life of luxury there was more than sufficient to survive. The government have even increased Universal Credit to cover for any extra costs associated with Covid . I think the increase was about £20 per week. " " . How could any reasonable person attempt to claim that a political party do not want to help the needy. ? " Very easily. By looking at the Tories' track record when it comes to the needy. Child poverty has increased dramatically. "There are now 4.2 million children living in poverty – 600,000 more than in 2011/12." (The government’s own figures show that relative child poverty increased by 600,000 between 2011/12 and 2018/19.) "An estimated 320,000 people are homeless in the UK" This was according research by Shelter in 2019. Food bank use has soared under the Tories. There's a lovely bar chart in this link that shows just how much the numbers shot up after the Tories got into power: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-48037122 And if you don't trust any of those numbers, here's what Cummings himself said about the Tories: "People think, and by the way I think most people are right: ‘The Tory party is run by people who basically don’t care about people like me.’" He continued: "That is what most people in the country have thought about the Tory party for decades. I know a lot of Tory MPs and I am sad to say the public is basically correct. Tory MPs largely do not care about these poorer people. They don’t care about the NHS. And the public has kind of cottoned on to that." | |||
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"I've paid into the NHS all my life so the blood transfusion is sorted. The Police fire etc the same. As for the house burning down guess what I've bought insurance with some of my wages. As for feeding your kids count me out. You feed them. Either work for a living or claim benefits. No.kids are starving in the UK. So I'm all right jack is ok. As for you Mr I cant cope with life. "You can only get a blood transfusion if other people are altruistic. If they follow your ideas the blood bank will be empty. | |||
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"Has anyone had a look on their local council website to see how well/badly they provide information on the support that is available to residents during covid ? I just did, at your suggestion. There is loads of support for businesses. Some for health. For residents, there is a page detailing all the support available. It's pretty good actually My local council website offers considerable detail on support for businesses and some general info on resident support - but the website is a mess (it's been like this for some time, not just since covid) If I wanted to find out discreetly what I could ask for, the website offers very little, and I may not be all the comfortable calling the 03000 number. So you are avoiding talking about the Tories voting down free school meals. Thought so. You can talk about the Tories voting if you want. I'm interested in how easy it is for those most in need (whether they are already in the system or are new to it) to get help. I keep hearing about the money already provided for specific food/welfare support, but wonder how information and access to that money is disseminated by the councils . With the free meal vouchers, we know that the kids and the families get them. With the other schemes, universal credit and co, it’s a good way for the gvt to muddy the waters, the real amount of money given etc... It’s easier to talk bullshit. They’re good at telling us that they’ve increased money for this or for that but some reason I don’t trust them. Child poverty has increased since they got in ( there have been plenty of studies on this with some shocking stats from unicef or the UN) but if you listen to the tories, it’s bullshit, child poverty is not an issue in this country and poor families have never had it so easy. Yeah... we know they are the champions of empathy and generosity for the less well off. Joke inside.. The bottom line is that these clowns don’t believe in helping the needy but they also have to make sure that the public believe that they do help them. Hence the bullshit, the the ‘yes but we’ve increased this and that’. . How could any reasonable person attempt to claim that a political party do not want to help the needy. ? Maybe you need to go through all the benefits available to people. I did just that on one of many sites available last week and while you would not be living a life of luxury there was more than sufficient to survive. The government have even increased Universal Credit to cover for any extra costs associated with Covid . I think the increase was about £20 per week. " It's like arguing with a recorded messege | |||
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"Ffs its not the government that would be paying. It would have to come from everyone's income tax. I've worked hard all my life and feed my own kids. Why should I now pay towards feeding your kids. If people cant afford kids then don't have them. I want a Ferrari but can't afford it. That's life. Some people think money grows on trees or governments can just print more £20 notes . Sadly taking responsibility for your own affairs does not seem to be seen as a desirable attitude by a small but very vocal minority . There is an excellent letter in the national press today on this very topic. The author was bought up with two brothers on a low income family whose parents always ensured that they were fed and clothed. He clearly states that responsibity for feeding children is that of the parents , not the government and that where help is needed , it should be targeted , not given out on a blanket basis. These are the opinions that matter, not those of the Liberal elite or woke brigade. Councils have already been allocated extra funding to help those in need. Why are the families of those who claim to be so badly off not providing any help? That's bs.. Recognising that some in society are living in poverty and kids are hungry in half term has got fuck all to do with not accepting responsibility.. For the record Pat 72% of the families classed as living in poverty have at least one adult in work.. No one is saying it's ok for some who are capable of working to spend their lives sitting on their backsides living off the state, personally speaking it's something I've seen and it does my head in.. The problem seems to have become one that when such people are highlighted and rightly dealt with if they've been defrauding the system etc then certain media and people like you automatically lump everyone else in and then people with disabilities, long term mental health and even those who lose their jobs all get branded as scrounging feckless layabouts.. And yet the same media and people like you applaud tax evaders and laid them as successful when it's two sides of the same coin.. An intersting point about you describing peoole as scrounging feckless layabouts. That is a term which you chose to use. Believing in a sense of responsibility and ensuring that money is only directed to those who are most in need is very different to referring to people as scrounging feckless layabouts. Many people would find your remarks and description of them as highly offensive and shows a lack of respect for those in need . " I base that on actually knowing some who exactly fit that description and others.. Tbh they were in a minority.. The difference being Pat is that I and have said do before differ from you in that I see intervention which may initially cost as a means of changing the mindset etc whereas you as you have clearly said on here are happy to leave it as it is.. As you have done with kids going hungry,you see that as ok .. | |||
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"I've paid into the NHS all my life so the blood transfusion is sorted. The Police fire etc the same. As for the house burning down guess what I've bought insurance with some of my wages. As for feeding your kids count me out. You feed them. Either work for a living or claim benefits. No.kids are starving in the UK. So I'm all right jack is ok. As for you Mr I cant cope with life. "Some grossly wrong assumptions therein however what stands out, a bit like a really angry boil is that you think being selfish is a good thing.. It's sad but respect that's how you see life and others .. | |||
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