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By *ackal1 OP Couple
over a year ago
Manchester |
The program tonight was looking into the world of American food. It’s horrific.
The onus in the US is on the public to prove something isn’t safe rather than the company prove it’s safe.
Their milk, drinks and vegetables are just full of nasty chemicals which we presently ban under EU rules as there is a risk of ill health and in some cases cancer.
Whilst we keep being told by the government they are not dropping standards they keep blocking or rejecting any legislation that enshrines our food safety standards. Why is that?
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"The program tonight was looking into the world of American food. It’s horrific.
The onus in the US is on the public to prove something isn’t safe rather than the company prove it’s safe.
Their milk, drinks and vegetables are just full of nasty chemicals which we presently ban under EU rules as there is a risk of ill health and in some cases cancer.
Whilst we keep being told by the government they are not dropping standards they keep blocking or rejecting any legislation that enshrines our food safety standards. Why is that?
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Think you are wasting your breath.
The standard response on here is you lost get over it.
People who vote leave are apparently exempt from the inevitable shitstorm. |
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By *ackal1 OP Couple
over a year ago
Manchester |
"The program tonight was looking into the world of American food. It’s horrific.
The onus in the US is on the public to prove something isn’t safe rather than the company prove it’s safe.
Their milk, drinks and vegetables are just full of nasty chemicals which we presently ban under EU rules as there is a risk of ill health and in some cases cancer.
Whilst we keep being told by the government they are not dropping standards they keep blocking or rejecting any legislation that enshrines our food safety standards. Why is that?
Think you are wasting your breath.
The standard response on here is you lost get over it.
People who vote leave are apparently exempt from the inevitable shitstorm."
I think that’s a shame as this is way beyond Brexit and will affect us all.
Brexit is done but this is something we should all resist. There’s a lot of parents on here and talking to my brother who lives in the US its hard to find clean food and when you do it carries a big premium. So most people just eat the pesticide tainted and chemical laced food.
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over a year ago
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"The program tonight was looking into the world of American food. It’s horrific.
The onus in the US is on the public to prove something isn’t safe rather than the company prove it’s safe.
Their milk, drinks and vegetables are just full of nasty chemicals which we presently ban under EU rules as there is a risk of ill health and in some cases cancer.
Whilst we keep being told by the government they are not dropping standards they keep blocking or rejecting any legislation that enshrines our food safety standards. Why is that?
Think you are wasting your breath.
The standard response on here is you lost get over it.
People who vote leave are apparently exempt from the inevitable shitstorm.
I think that’s a shame as this is way beyond Brexit and will affect us all.
Brexit is done but this is something we should all resist. There’s a lot of parents on here and talking to my brother who lives in the US its hard to find clean food and when you do it carries a big premium. So most people just eat the pesticide tainted and chemical laced food.
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There is no resisting this. The removal of EU food safety standards was one of the cornerstones of Brexit.
Fast Food Nation by Eric Schlosser is a good book discussing all aspects of food production in the states. And why it's like that. |
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By *ackal1 OP Couple
over a year ago
Manchester |
"The program tonight was looking into the world of American food. It’s horrific.
The onus in the US is on the public to prove something isn’t safe rather than the company prove it’s safe.
Their milk, drinks and vegetables are just full of nasty chemicals which we presently ban under EU rules as there is a risk of ill health and in some cases cancer.
Whilst we keep being told by the government they are not dropping standards they keep blocking or rejecting any legislation that enshrines our food safety standards. Why is that?
Think you are wasting your breath.
The standard response on here is you lost get over it.
People who vote leave are apparently exempt from the inevitable shitstorm.
I think that’s a shame as this is way beyond Brexit and will affect us all.
Brexit is done but this is something we should all resist. There’s a lot of parents on here and talking to my brother who lives in the US its hard to find clean food and when you do it carries a big premium. So most people just eat the pesticide tainted and chemical laced food.
There is no resisting this. The removal of EU food safety standards was one of the cornerstones of Brexit.
Fast Food Nation by Eric Schlosser is a good book discussing all aspects of food production in the states. And why it's like that."
I bet that’s a depressing read and big business getting their own way.
I don’t understand why we should even be considering lower standards . I can’t see why that is a positive. Well unless you have shares in big Pharma. |
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over a year ago
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"The program tonight was looking into the world of American food. It’s horrific.
The onus in the US is on the public to prove something isn’t safe rather than the company prove it’s safe.
Their milk, drinks and vegetables are just full of nasty chemicals which we presently ban under EU rules as there is a risk of ill health and in some cases cancer.
Whilst we keep being told by the government they are not dropping standards they keep blocking or rejecting any legislation that enshrines our food safety standards. Why is that?
Think you are wasting your breath.
The standard response on here is you lost get over it.
People who vote leave are apparently exempt from the inevitable shitstorm.
I think that’s a shame as this is way beyond Brexit and will affect us all.
Brexit is done but this is something we should all resist. There’s a lot of parents on here and talking to my brother who lives in the US its hard to find clean food and when you do it carries a big premium. So most people just eat the pesticide tainted and chemical laced food.
There is no resisting this. The removal of EU food safety standards was one of the cornerstones of Brexit.
Fast Food Nation by Eric Schlosser is a good book discussing all aspects of food production in the states. And why it's like that.
I bet that’s a depressing read and big business getting their own way.
I don’t understand why we should even be considering lower standards . I can’t see why that is a positive. Well unless you have shares in big Pharma. "
US corporations didn't fund the leave campaigns out of altruism. They did it to break into the UK market.
The general gist in the book is that the meat packing, and other industries heavily donate to both main parties in the US, so neither of them take any meaningful steps to making the safety standards more stringent.
The only way we can resist is to buy local, avoid meat and dairy products. Keep a close eye on laws that define what "organic" and "free range" certifications actually mean. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Doesn't the UK have
https://www.food.gov.uk"
A website that shows the UKs current food safety information. Based of EU food safety standards that were currently negotiating away in order to get a trade deal with the US.
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"Doesn't the UK have
https://www.food.gov.uk
A website that shows the UKs current food safety information. Based of EU food safety standards that were currently negotiating away in order to get a trade deal with the US.
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Are you referring to the General Food Law Regulation (EC) 178/2002?
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over a year ago
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"Doesn't the UK have
https://www.food.gov.uk
A website that shows the UKs current food safety information. Based of EU food safety standards that were currently negotiating away in order to get a trade deal with the US.
Are you referring to the General Food Law Regulation (EC) 178/2002?
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Not sure bud. You posted up the link. |
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"Doesn't the UK have
https://www.food.gov.uk
A website that shows the UKs current food safety information. Based of EU food safety standards that were currently negotiating away in order to get a trade deal with the US.
Are you referring to the General Food Law Regulation (EC) 178/2002?
Not sure bud. You posted up the link."
If you don't know what the UK food laws and standards are how can you post saying they are being currently negotiating away.!
Where is your info coming from? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Doesn't the UK have
https://www.food.gov.uk
A website that shows the UKs current food safety information. Based of EU food safety standards that were currently negotiating away in order to get a trade deal with the US.
Are you referring to the General Food Law Regulation (EC) 178/2002?
Not sure bud. You posted up the link.
If you don't know what the UK food laws and standards are how can you post saying they are being currently negotiating away.!
Where is your info coming from?"
I don't know why you're having a pop at me. You posted the link.
EU food safety standards are currently incorporated in British law. As of the end of the transition period. We're free to scrap these minimum standards.
Look at any news source that's reporting the progress of the trade talks with the US. You'll find numerous articles and links to information about this.
Even going back to the leave campaigns. This has been one of the cornerstones of Brexit. Removing "EU red tape". |
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"Doesn't the UK have
https://www.food.gov.uk
A website that shows the UKs current food safety information. Based of EU food safety standards that were currently negotiating away in order to get a trade deal with the US.
Are you referring to the General Food Law Regulation (EC) 178/2002?
Not sure bud. You posted up the link.
If you don't know what the UK food laws and standards are how can you post saying they are being currently negotiating away.!
Where is your info coming from?
I don't know why you're having a pop at me. You posted the link.
EU food safety standards are currently incorporated in British law. As of the end of the transition period. We're free to scrap these minimum standards.
Look at any news source that's reporting the progress of the trade talks with the US. You'll find numerous articles and links to information about this.
Even going back to the leave campaigns. This has been one of the cornerstones of Brexit. Removing "EU red tape"."
General Food Law Regulation (EC) 178/2002 came into law in 2002 with some key parts coming into law in 2005.
However did we manage to survive as a nation before 2002?
Mass food poisoning, people dropping dead on the spot due to bad food?
No it never happened and I very much doubt it will happen all due to leaving the EU. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Doesn't the UK have
https://www.food.gov.uk
A website that shows the UKs current food safety information. Based of EU food safety standards that were currently negotiating away in order to get a trade deal with the US.
Are you referring to the General Food Law Regulation (EC) 178/2002?
Not sure bud. You posted up the link.
If you don't know what the UK food laws and standards are how can you post saying they are being currently negotiating away.!
Where is your info coming from?
I don't know why you're having a pop at me. You posted the link.
EU food safety standards are currently incorporated in British law. As of the end of the transition period. We're free to scrap these minimum standards.
Look at any news source that's reporting the progress of the trade talks with the US. You'll find numerous articles and links to information about this.
Even going back to the leave campaigns. This has been one of the cornerstones of Brexit. Removing "EU red tape".
General Food Law Regulation (EC) 178/2002 came into law in 2002 with some key parts coming into law in 2005.
However did we manage to survive as a nation before 2002?
Mass food poisoning, people dropping dead on the spot due to bad food?
No it never happened and I very much doubt it will happen all due to leaving the EU."
I don't really know what your argument is.
Food safety standards are important, or are not important?
If you're happy to reduce our food safety standards to align with the US. I'd suggest reading more about it, and reading about how many people become seriously ill and die in the states as a direct result of their much less stringent standards.
Or if you prefer to just argue about it without choosing to learn. That's fine too. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Doesn't the UK have
https://www.food.gov.uk
A website that shows the UKs current food safety information. Based of EU food safety standards that were currently negotiating away in order to get a trade deal with the US.
Are you referring to the General Food Law Regulation (EC) 178/2002?
Not sure bud. You posted up the link.
If you don't know what the UK food laws and standards are how can you post saying they are being currently negotiating away.!
Where is your info coming from?
I don't know why you're having a pop at me. You posted the link.
EU food safety standards are currently incorporated in British law. As of the end of the transition period. We're free to scrap these minimum standards.
Look at any news source that's reporting the progress of the trade talks with the US. You'll find numerous articles and links to information about this.
Even going back to the leave campaigns. This has been one of the cornerstones of Brexit. Removing "EU red tape".
General Food Law Regulation (EC) 178/2002 came into law in 2002 with some key parts coming into law in 2005.
However did we manage to survive as a nation before 2002?
Mass food poisoning, people dropping dead on the spot due to bad food?
No it never happened and I very much doubt it will happen all due to leaving the EU.
I don't really know what your argument is.
Food safety standards are important, or are not important?
If you're happy to reduce our food safety standards to align with the US. I'd suggest reading more about it, and reading about how many people become seriously ill and die in the states as a direct result of their much less stringent standards.
Or if you prefer to just argue about it without choosing to learn. That's fine too."
You seem to think that there is a desire to learn, when it seems quite obvious that the only intention is to argue. |
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"Doesn't the UK have
https://www.food.gov.uk
A website that shows the UKs current food safety information. Based of EU food safety standards that were currently negotiating away in order to get a trade deal with the US.
Are you referring to the General Food Law Regulation (EC) 178/2002?
Not sure bud. You posted up the link.
If you don't know what the UK food laws and standards are how can you post saying they are being currently negotiating away.!
Where is your info coming from?
I don't know why you're having a pop at me. You posted the link.
EU food safety standards are currently incorporated in British law. As of the end of the transition period. We're free to scrap these minimum standards.
Look at any news source that's reporting the progress of the trade talks with the US. You'll find numerous articles and links to information about this.
Even going back to the leave campaigns. This has been one of the cornerstones of Brexit. Removing "EU red tape".
General Food Law Regulation (EC) 178/2002 came into law in 2002 with some key parts coming into law in 2005.
However did we manage to survive as a nation before 2002?
Mass food poisoning, people dropping dead on the spot due to bad food?
No it never happened and I very much doubt it will happen all due to leaving the EU.
I don't really know what your argument is.
Food safety standards are important, or are not important?
If you're happy to reduce our food safety standards to align with the US. I'd suggest reading more about it, and reading about how many people become seriously ill and die in the states as a direct result of their much less stringent standards.
Or if you prefer to just argue about it without choosing to learn. That's fine too."
I'm just pointing out we had food standard before the EU standard came into force. Did we have a major problem then?
Also, has anyone been on holiday to the USA? If you have did you not eat for the duration of your stay? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Doesn't the UK have
https://www.food.gov.uk
A website that shows the UKs current food safety information. Based of EU food safety standards that were currently negotiating away in order to get a trade deal with the US.
Are you referring to the General Food Law Regulation (EC) 178/2002?
Not sure bud. You posted up the link.
If you don't know what the UK food laws and standards are how can you post saying they are being currently negotiating away.!
Where is your info coming from?
I don't know why you're having a pop at me. You posted the link.
EU food safety standards are currently incorporated in British law. As of the end of the transition period. We're free to scrap these minimum standards.
Look at any news source that's reporting the progress of the trade talks with the US. You'll find numerous articles and links to information about this.
Even going back to the leave campaigns. This has been one of the cornerstones of Brexit. Removing "EU red tape".
General Food Law Regulation (EC) 178/2002 came into law in 2002 with some key parts coming into law in 2005.
However did we manage to survive as a nation before 2002?
Mass food poisoning, people dropping dead on the spot due to bad food?
No it never happened and I very much doubt it will happen all due to leaving the EU.
I don't really know what your argument is.
Food safety standards are important, or are not important?
If you're happy to reduce our food safety standards to align with the US. I'd suggest reading more about it, and reading about how many people become seriously ill and die in the states as a direct result of their much less stringent standards.
Or if you prefer to just argue about it without choosing to learn. That's fine too.
I'm just pointing out we had food standard before the EU standard came into force. Did we have a major problem then?
Also, has anyone been on holiday to the USA? If you have did you not eat for the duration of your stay?"
I'm not sure why any of this is relevant to the UK aligning with US food standards?
Prior to 2002, we weren't weren't on US standards.
And when I've visited the states, I absolutely avoided meat and dairy. |
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"Doesn't the UK have
https://www.food.gov.uk
A website that shows the UKs current food safety information. Based of EU food safety standards that were currently negotiating away in order to get a trade deal with the US.
Are you referring to the General Food Law Regulation (EC) 178/2002?
Not sure bud. You posted up the link.
If you don't know what the UK food laws and standards are how can you post saying they are being currently negotiating away.!
Where is your info coming from?
I don't know why you're having a pop at me. You posted the link.
EU food safety standards are currently incorporated in British law. As of the end of the transition period. We're free to scrap these minimum standards.
Look at any news source that's reporting the progress of the trade talks with the US. You'll find numerous articles and links to information about this.
Even going back to the leave campaigns. This has been one of the cornerstones of Brexit. Removing "EU red tape".
General Food Law Regulation (EC) 178/2002 came into law in 2002 with some key parts coming into law in 2005.
However did we manage to survive as a nation before 2002?
Mass food poisoning, people dropping dead on the spot due to bad food?
No it never happened and I very much doubt it will happen all due to leaving the EU.
I don't really know what your argument is.
Food safety standards are important, or are not important?
If you're happy to reduce our food safety standards to align with the US. I'd suggest reading more about it, and reading about how many people become seriously ill and die in the states as a direct result of their much less stringent standards.
Or if you prefer to just argue about it without choosing to learn. That's fine too.
I'm just pointing out we had food standard before the EU standard came into force. Did we have a major problem then?
Also, has anyone been on holiday to the USA? If you have did you not eat for the duration of your stay?
I'm not sure why any of this is relevant to the UK aligning with US food standards?
Prior to 2002, we weren't weren't on US standards.
And when I've visited the states, I absolutely avoided meat and dairy."
Please post a link to confirm the UK has now aligned with US food standards? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Doesn't the UK have
https://www.food.gov.uk
A website that shows the UKs current food safety information. Based of EU food safety standards that were currently negotiating away in order to get a trade deal with the US.
Are you referring to the General Food Law Regulation (EC) 178/2002?
Not sure bud. You posted up the link.
If you don't know what the UK food laws and standards are how can you post saying they are being currently negotiating away.!
Where is your info coming from?
I don't know why you're having a pop at me. You posted the link.
EU food safety standards are currently incorporated in British law. As of the end of the transition period. We're free to scrap these minimum standards.
Look at any news source that's reporting the progress of the trade talks with the US. You'll find numerous articles and links to information about this.
Even going back to the leave campaigns. This has been one of the cornerstones of Brexit. Removing "EU red tape".
General Food Law Regulation (EC) 178/2002 came into law in 2002 with some key parts coming into law in 2005.
However did we manage to survive as a nation before 2002?
Mass food poisoning, people dropping dead on the spot due to bad food?
No it never happened and I very much doubt it will happen all due to leaving the EU.
I don't really know what your argument is.
Food safety standards are important, or are not important?
If you're happy to reduce our food safety standards to align with the US. I'd suggest reading more about it, and reading about how many people become seriously ill and die in the states as a direct result of their much less stringent standards.
Or if you prefer to just argue about it without choosing to learn. That's fine too.
I'm just pointing out we had food standard before the EU standard came into force. Did we have a major problem then?
Also, has anyone been on holiday to the USA? If you have did you not eat for the duration of your stay?
I'm not sure why any of this is relevant to the UK aligning with US food standards?
Prior to 2002, we weren't weren't on US standards.
And when I've visited the states, I absolutely avoided meat and dairy.
Please post a link to confirm the UK has now aligned with US food standards?"
No one has claimed that this has happened, so I don't know why you're demanding a link here.
Look, it's clear that you're hear to argue, or try to subvert the discussion. I've no interest in an internet argument with a stranger who just wants to throw out random statements instead of actually learning about the situation.
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By *ebbie69Couple
over a year ago
milton keynes |
"Doesn't the UK have
https://www.food.gov.uk
A website that shows the UKs current food safety information. Based of EU food safety standards that were currently negotiating away in order to get a trade deal with the US.
Are you referring to the General Food Law Regulation (EC) 178/2002?
Not sure bud. You posted up the link.
If you don't know what the UK food laws and standards are how can you post saying they are being currently negotiating away.!
Where is your info coming from?
I don't know why you're having a pop at me. You posted the link.
EU food safety standards are currently incorporated in British law. As of the end of the transition period. We're free to scrap these minimum standards.
Look at any news source that's reporting the progress of the trade talks with the US. You'll find numerous articles and links to information about this.
Even going back to the leave campaigns. This has been one of the cornerstones of Brexit. Removing "EU red tape".
General Food Law Regulation (EC) 178/2002 came into law in 2002 with some key parts coming into law in 2005.
However did we manage to survive as a nation before 2002?
Mass food poisoning, people dropping dead on the spot due to bad food?
No it never happened and I very much doubt it will happen all due to leaving the EU.
I don't really know what your argument is.
Food safety standards are important, or are not important?
If you're happy to reduce our food safety standards to align with the US. I'd suggest reading more about it, and reading about how many people become seriously ill and die in the states as a direct result of their much less stringent standards.
Or if you prefer to just argue about it without choosing to learn. That's fine too.
I'm just pointing out we had food standard before the EU standard came into force. Did we have a major problem then?
Also, has anyone been on holiday to the USA? If you have did you not eat for the duration of your stay?"
Think we had British standards before. I have had American food on many occasions and know plenty of people that have to. Never had any problems. My only concern if we do get American imported food is if its not clearly labelled. It has to be clear what you are buying |
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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago
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Have been to the states a couple of times never had food poisoning, went to the canary isles once got sick and have had it twice in France.
Standards mean nothing if they are ignored. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Doesn't the UK have
https://www.food.gov.uk
A website that shows the UKs current food safety information. Based of EU food safety standards that were currently negotiating away in order to get a trade deal with the US.
Are you referring to the General Food Law Regulation (EC) 178/2002?
Not sure bud. You posted up the link.
If you don't know what the UK food laws and standards are how can you post saying they are being currently negotiating away.!
Where is your info coming from?
I don't know why you're having a pop at me. You posted the link.
EU food safety standards are currently incorporated in British law. As of the end of the transition period. We're free to scrap these minimum standards.
Look at any news source that's reporting the progress of the trade talks with the US. You'll find numerous articles and links to information about this.
Even going back to the leave campaigns. This has been one of the cornerstones of Brexit. Removing "EU red tape".
General Food Law Regulation (EC) 178/2002 came into law in 2002 with some key parts coming into law in 2005.
However did we manage to survive as a nation before 2002?
Mass food poisoning, people dropping dead on the spot due to bad food?
No it never happened and I very much doubt it will happen all due to leaving the EU.
I don't really know what your argument is.
Food safety standards are important, or are not important?
If you're happy to reduce our food safety standards to align with the US. I'd suggest reading more about it, and reading about how many people become seriously ill and die in the states as a direct result of their much less stringent standards.
Or if you prefer to just argue about it without choosing to learn. That's fine too.
I'm just pointing out we had food standard before the EU standard came into force. Did we have a major problem then?
Also, has anyone been on holiday to the USA? If you have did you not eat for the duration of your stay?
Think we had British standards before. I have had American food on many occasions and know plenty of people that have to. Never had any problems. My only concern if we do get American imported food is if its not clearly labelled. It has to be clear what you are buying"
If the standards are removed, British producers will be allowed to use steroids, and reduce their standards to match. So avoiding US produce won't necessarily help. |
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By *ebbie69Couple
over a year ago
milton keynes |
"Doesn't the UK have
https://www.food.gov.uk
A website that shows the UKs current food safety information. Based of EU food safety standards that were currently negotiating away in order to get a trade deal with the US.
Are you referring to the General Food Law Regulation (EC) 178/2002?
Not sure bud. You posted up the link.
If you don't know what the UK food laws and standards are how can you post saying they are being currently negotiating away.!
Where is your info coming from?
I don't know why you're having a pop at me. You posted the link.
EU food safety standards are currently incorporated in British law. As of the end of the transition period. We're free to scrap these minimum standards.
Look at any news source that's reporting the progress of the trade talks with the US. You'll find numerous articles and links to information about this.
Even going back to the leave campaigns. This has been one of the cornerstones of Brexit. Removing "EU red tape".
General Food Law Regulation (EC) 178/2002 came into law in 2002 with some key parts coming into law in 2005.
However did we manage to survive as a nation before 2002?
Mass food poisoning, people dropping dead on the spot due to bad food?
No it never happened and I very much doubt it will happen all due to leaving the EU.
I don't really know what your argument is.
Food safety standards are important, or are not important?
If you're happy to reduce our food safety standards to align with the US. I'd suggest reading more about it, and reading about how many people become seriously ill and die in the states as a direct result of their much less stringent standards.
Or if you prefer to just argue about it without choosing to learn. That's fine too.
I'm just pointing out we had food standard before the EU standard came into force. Did we have a major problem then?
Also, has anyone been on holiday to the USA? If you have did you not eat for the duration of your stay?
Think we had British standards before. I have had American food on many occasions and know plenty of people that have to. Never had any problems. My only concern if we do get American imported food is if its not clearly labelled. It has to be clear what you are buying
If the standards are removed, British producers will be allowed to use steroids, and reduce their standards to match. So avoiding US produce won't necessarily help."
As I say produce should be clearly labelled. regardless of its origin people should know where and how its produced no matter if its British, American or from a back street butchers in Romania. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Doesn't the UK have
https://www.food.gov.uk
A website that shows the UKs current food safety information. Based of EU food safety standards that were currently negotiating away in order to get a trade deal with the US.
Are you referring to the General Food Law Regulation (EC) 178/2002?
Not sure bud. You posted up the link.
If you don't know what the UK food laws and standards are how can you post saying they are being currently negotiating away.!
Where is your info coming from?
I don't know why you're having a pop at me. You posted the link.
EU food safety standards are currently incorporated in British law. As of the end of the transition period. We're free to scrap these minimum standards.
Look at any news source that's reporting the progress of the trade talks with the US. You'll find numerous articles and links to information about this.
Even going back to the leave campaigns. This has been one of the cornerstones of Brexit. Removing "EU red tape".
General Food Law Regulation (EC) 178/2002 came into law in 2002 with some key parts coming into law in 2005.
However did we manage to survive as a nation before 2002?
Mass food poisoning, people dropping dead on the spot due to bad food?
No it never happened and I very much doubt it will happen all due to leaving the EU.
I don't really know what your argument is.
Food safety standards are important, or are not important?
If you're happy to reduce our food safety standards to align with the US. I'd suggest reading more about it, and reading about how many people become seriously ill and die in the states as a direct result of their much less stringent standards.
Or if you prefer to just argue about it without choosing to learn. That's fine too.
I'm just pointing out we had food standard before the EU standard came into force. Did we have a major problem then?
Also, has anyone been on holiday to the USA? If you have did you not eat for the duration of your stay?
Think we had British standards before. I have had American food on many occasions and know plenty of people that have to. Never had any problems. My only concern if we do get American imported food is if its not clearly labelled. It has to be clear what you are buying
If the standards are removed, British producers will be allowed to use steroids, and reduce their standards to match. So avoiding US produce won't necessarily help.
As I say produce should be clearly labelled. regardless of its origin people should know where and how its produced no matter if its British, American or from a back street butchers in Romania. "
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"Doesn't the UK have
https://www.food.gov.uk
A website that shows the UKs current food safety information. Based of EU food safety standards that were currently negotiating away in order to get a trade deal with the US.
Are you referring to the General Food Law Regulation (EC) 178/2002?
Not sure bud. You posted up the link.
If you don't know what the UK food laws and standards are how can you post saying they are being currently negotiating away.!
Where is your info coming from?
I don't know why you're having a pop at me. You posted the link.
EU food safety standards are currently incorporated in British law. As of the end of the transition period. We're free to scrap these minimum standards.
Look at any news source that's reporting the progress of the trade talks with the US. You'll find numerous articles and links to information about this.
Even going back to the leave campaigns. This has been one of the cornerstones of Brexit. Removing "EU red tape".
General Food Law Regulation (EC) 178/2002 came into law in 2002 with some key parts coming into law in 2005.
However did we manage to survive as a nation before 2002?
Mass food poisoning, people dropping dead on the spot due to bad food?
No it never happened and I very much doubt it will happen all due to leaving the EU.
I don't really know what your argument is.
Food safety standards are important, or are not important?
If you're happy to reduce our food safety standards to align with the US. I'd suggest reading more about it, and reading about how many people become seriously ill and die in the states as a direct result of their much less stringent standards.
Or if you prefer to just argue about it without choosing to learn. That's fine too.
I'm just pointing out we had food standard before the EU standard came into force. Did we have a major problem then?
Also, has anyone been on holiday to the USA? If you have did you not eat for the duration of your stay?
Think we had British standards before. I have had American food on many occasions and know plenty of people that have to. Never had any problems. My only concern if we do get American imported food is if its not clearly labelled. It has to be clear what you are buying
If the standards are removed, British producers will be allowed to use steroids, and reduce their standards to match. So avoiding US produce won't necessarily help.
As I say produce should be clearly labelled. regardless of its origin people should know where and how its produced no matter if its British, American or from a back street butchers in Romania.
I completely agree. But if they're preparing to reduce standards, they're prepared to change labelling laws."
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"The program tonight was looking into the world of American food. It’s horrific.
The onus in the US is on the public to prove something isn’t safe rather than the company prove it’s safe.
Their milk, drinks and vegetables are just full of nasty chemicals which we presently ban under EU rules as there is a risk of ill health and in some cases cancer.
Whilst we keep being told by the government they are not dropping standards they keep blocking or rejecting any legislation that enshrines our food safety standards. Why is that?
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Been to the US many times and have many on holiday we all enjoyed the food I bet many of you mowners have |
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"Doesn't the UK have
https://www.food.gov.uk
A website that shows the UKs current food safety information. Based of EU food safety standards that were currently negotiating away in order to get a trade deal with the US.
Are you referring to the General Food Law Regulation (EC) 178/2002?
Not sure bud. You posted up the link.
If you don't know what the UK food laws and standards are how can you post saying they are being currently negotiating away.!
Where is your info coming from?
I don't know why you're having a pop at me. You posted the link.
EU food safety standards are currently incorporated in British law. As of the end of the transition period. We're free to scrap these minimum standards.
Look at any news source that's reporting the progress of the trade talks with the US. You'll find numerous articles and links to information about this.
Even going back to the leave campaigns. This has been one of the cornerstones of Brexit. Removing "EU red tape".
General Food Law Regulation (EC) 178/2002 came into law in 2002 with some key parts coming into law in 2005.
However did we manage to survive as a nation before 2002?
Mass food poisoning, people dropping dead on the spot due to bad food?
No it never happened and I very much doubt it will happen all due to leaving the EU.
I don't really know what your argument is.
Food safety standards are important, or are not important?
If you're happy to reduce our food safety standards to align with the US. I'd suggest reading more about it, and reading about how many people become seriously ill and die in the states as a direct result of their much less stringent standards.
Or if you prefer to just argue about it without choosing to learn. That's fine too.
I'm just pointing out we had food standard before the EU standard came into force. Did we have a major problem then?
Also, has anyone been on holiday to the USA? If you have did you not eat for the duration of your stay?
Think we had British standards before. I have had American food on many occasions and know plenty of people that have to. Never had any problems. My only concern if we do get American imported food is if its not clearly labelled. It has to be clear what you are buying
If the standards are removed, British producers will be allowed to use steroids, and reduce their standards to match. So avoiding US produce won't necessarily help.
As I say produce should be clearly labelled. regardless of its origin people should know where and how its produced no matter if its British, American or from a back street butchers in Romania.
I completely agree. But if they're preparing to reduce standards, they're prepared to change labelling laws.
Again I ask you, please post a link that states what you have just posted?"
I don't have a link to my opinion that if they're preparing to reduce standards, they're prepared to change labelling laws.
I'm not a published journalist.
Also not interested in an internet argument with someone who just wants a slagging match while at the same time refusing to learn about the subject matter.
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By *ackal1 OP Couple
over a year ago
Manchester |
"Doesn't the UK have
https://www.food.gov.uk
A website that shows the UKs current food safety information. Based of EU food safety standards that were currently negotiating away in order to get a trade deal with the US.
Are you referring to the General Food Law Regulation (EC) 178/2002?
Not sure bud. You posted up the link.
If you don't know what the UK food laws and standards are how can you post saying they are being currently negotiating away.!
Where is your info coming from?
I don't know why you're having a pop at me. You posted the link.
EU food safety standards are currently incorporated in British law. As of the end of the transition period. We're free to scrap these minimum standards.
Look at any news source that's reporting the progress of the trade talks with the US. You'll find numerous articles and links to information about this.
Even going back to the leave campaigns. This has been one of the cornerstones of Brexit. Removing "EU red tape".
General Food Law Regulation (EC) 178/2002 came into law in 2002 with some key parts coming into law in 2005.
However did we manage to survive as a nation before 2002?
Mass food poisoning, people dropping dead on the spot due to bad food?
No it never happened and I very much doubt it will happen all due to leaving the EU.
I don't really know what your argument is.
Food safety standards are important, or are not important?
If you're happy to reduce our food safety standards to align with the US. I'd suggest reading more about it, and reading about how many people become seriously ill and die in the states as a direct result of their much less stringent standards.
Or if you prefer to just argue about it without choosing to learn. That's fine too.
I'm just pointing out we had food standard before the EU standard came into force. Did we have a major problem then?
Also, has anyone been on holiday to the USA? If you have did you not eat for the duration of your stay?
Think we had British standards before. I have had American food on many occasions and know plenty of people that have to. Never had any problems. My only concern if we do get American imported food is if its not clearly labelled. It has to be clear what you are buying
If the standards are removed, British producers will be allowed to use steroids, and reduce their standards to match. So avoiding US produce won't necessarily help.
As I say produce should be clearly labelled. regardless of its origin people should know where and how its produced no matter if its British, American or from a back street butchers in Romania.
I completely agree. But if they're preparing to reduce standards, they're prepared to change labelling laws.
Again I ask you, please post a link that states what you have just posted?"
Why would anyone block standards being kept in law if they don’t want to change them? Voted down last night. The argument is very clear and you’re looking for a link? Given we have to wait until the deals are negotiated and probably done without any recourse which seems to be this government’s form, would you not consider it wise to put the case for safety over money and vested interests? Not sure why your being so belligerent?
Quote “Figures taken from the US Food and Drug Administration and the UK’s Food Standards Agency show 14.7 per cent of the US population suffer from a food-borne illness each year, versus 1.5 per cent in the UK.“
Unquote
Cattle mostly do not eat grass in the USA they are kept in stockyards and fed processed animal feed laced with growth hormones so the cow isn’t mature when it’s slaughtered it’s just big.
Hormones in our diet lead to I’ll health and that why they are banned here. That’s medical fact.
The USA stance on Labelling (if I’m correct as not signed up yet) is the food can be shipped and packed in the UK and then classed as British product. This will include such things as meat and containing any additives in things such as pre packed ready meals. We will not have the information for an informed choice.
This is not a Brexit debate this is about our health. We didn’t have clean water rules before legislation was introduced for our safety so should we go back to putting raw sewage in the rivers just because not everyone will get ill?
We should keep our strict rules and only allow food that keeps those standards. Animal welfare also comes under these food regimes just for the record, so back to just battery farming and pigs in 5 foot pens unable to turnaround. Sounds lovely! |
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"Doesn't the UK have
https://www.food.gov.uk
A website that shows the UKs current food safety information. Based of EU food safety standards that were currently negotiating away in order to get a trade deal with the US.
Are you referring to the General Food Law Regulation (EC) 178/2002?
Not sure bud. You posted up the link.
If you don't know what the UK food laws and standards are how can you post saying they are being currently negotiating away.!
Where is your info coming from?
I don't know why you're having a pop at me. You posted the link.
EU food safety standards are currently incorporated in British law. As of the end of the transition period. We're free to scrap these minimum standards.
Look at any news source that's reporting the progress of the trade talks with the US. You'll find numerous articles and links to information about this.
Even going back to the leave campaigns. This has been one of the cornerstones of Brexit. Removing "EU red tape".
General Food Law Regulation (EC) 178/2002 came into law in 2002 with some key parts coming into law in 2005.
However did we manage to survive as a nation before 2002?
Mass food poisoning, people dropping dead on the spot due to bad food?
No it never happened and I very much doubt it will happen all due to leaving the EU.
I don't really know what your argument is.
Food safety standards are important, or are not important?
If you're happy to reduce our food safety standards to align with the US. I'd suggest reading more about it, and reading about how many people become seriously ill and die in the states as a direct result of their much less stringent standards.
Or if you prefer to just argue about it without choosing to learn. That's fine too.
I'm just pointing out we had food standard before the EU standard came into force. Did we have a major problem then?
Also, has anyone been on holiday to the USA? If you have did you not eat for the duration of your stay?
Think we had British standards before. I have had American food on many occasions and know plenty of people that have to. Never had any problems. My only concern if we do get American imported food is if its not clearly labelled. It has to be clear what you are buying
If the standards are removed, British producers will be allowed to use steroids, and reduce their standards to match. So avoiding US produce won't necessarily help.
As I say produce should be clearly labelled. regardless of its origin people should know where and how its produced no matter if its British, American or from a back street butchers in Romania.
I completely agree. But if they're preparing to reduce standards, they're prepared to change labelling laws.
Again I ask you, please post a link that states what you have just posted?
Why would anyone block standards being kept in law if they don’t want to change them? Voted down last night. The argument is very clear and you’re looking for a link? Given we have to wait until the deals are negotiated and probably done without any recourse which seems to be this government’s form, would you not consider it wise to put the case for safety over money and vested interests? Not sure why your being so belligerent?
Quote “Figures taken from the US Food and Drug Administration and the UK’s Food Standards Agency show 14.7 per cent of the US population suffer from a food-borne illness each year, versus 1.5 per cent in the UK.“
Unquote
Cattle mostly do not eat grass in the USA they are kept in stockyards and fed processed animal feed laced with growth hormones so the cow isn’t mature when it’s slaughtered it’s just big.
Hormones in our diet lead to I’ll health and that why they are banned here. That’s medical fact.
The USA stance on Labelling (if I’m correct as not signed up yet) is the food can be shipped and packed in the UK and then classed as British product. This will include such things as meat and containing any additives in things such as pre packed ready meals. We will not have the information for an informed choice.
This is not a Brexit debate this is about our health. We didn’t have clean water rules before legislation was introduced for our safety so should we go back to putting raw sewage in the rivers just because not everyone will get ill?
We should keep our strict rules and only allow food that keeps those standards. Animal welfare also comes under these food regimes just for the record, so back to just battery farming and pigs in 5 foot pens unable to turnaround. Sounds lovely! "
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By *ackal1 OP Couple
over a year ago
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"The program tonight was looking into the world of American food. It’s horrific.
The onus in the US is on the public to prove something isn’t safe rather than the company prove it’s safe.
Their milk, drinks and vegetables are just full of nasty chemicals which we presently ban under EU rules as there is a risk of ill health and in some cases cancer.
Whilst we keep being told by the government they are not dropping standards they keep blocking or rejecting any legislation that enshrines our food safety standards. Why is that?
Been to the US many times and have many on holiday we all enjoyed the food I bet many of you mowners have"
My brother lives there as I said. He’s not a fussy eater but says the food is totally unhealthy to eat full time so yes when I’m there with work like you I eat the local food but not long term. He buys from specialist health outlets to avoid the chemicals and hormones and for good reason.
One of his kids became long term ill and no idea what was causing it. Chicago university did some testing said it was the type of food they were eating. They are not poor so we are not talking cheap shit. His wife lectures there so able to use the best testing facilities. Result changed away from USA unregulated food products and the kid gets better. .
Proven fact of course not, but would you want to get ill to prove it’s not? |
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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago
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If it comes to a deal with the US UK will either up keep their standards for UK products which means uk farmers will struggle to make a living with American produce coming in at lower price or if they reduce standards UK will loose exports to the EU market. I certainly won't buy anything with UK label after a UK-US deal. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Doesn't the UK have
https://www.food.gov.uk
A website that shows the UKs current food safety information. Based of EU food safety standards that were currently negotiating away in order to get a trade deal with the US.
Are you referring to the General Food Law Regulation (EC) 178/2002?
Not sure bud. You posted up the link.
If you don't know what the UK food laws and standards are how can you post saying they are being currently negotiating away.!
Where is your info coming from?
I don't know why you're having a pop at me. You posted the link.
EU food safety standards are currently incorporated in British law. As of the end of the transition period. We're free to scrap these minimum standards.
Look at any news source that's reporting the progress of the trade talks with the US. You'll find numerous articles and links to information about this.
Even going back to the leave campaigns. This has been one of the cornerstones of Brexit. Removing "EU red tape".
General Food Law Regulation (EC) 178/2002 came into law in 2002 with some key parts coming into law in 2005.
However did we manage to survive as a nation before 2002?
Mass food poisoning, people dropping dead on the spot due to bad food?
No it never happened and I very much doubt it will happen all due to leaving the EU.
I don't really know what your argument is.
Food safety standards are important, or are not important?
If you're happy to reduce our food safety standards to align with the US. I'd suggest reading more about it, and reading about how many people become seriously ill and die in the states as a direct result of their much less stringent standards.
Or if you prefer to just argue about it without choosing to learn. That's fine too.
I'm just pointing out we had food standard before the EU standard came into force. Did we have a major problem then?
Also, has anyone been on holiday to the USA? If you have did you not eat for the duration of your stay?"
That's not the point, you're using anecdotal evidence.
The point is the USA has the highest death or severe poising rates due to food poisoning - mostly linked to animal husbandry, not food preparation - of any developed nation.
They have the highest rates of animal to human antibiotic resistance transfer.
All of this means is the following to keep it really simple:
Long term: greater need for tax payers contribution to the NHS to increase in order to deal with the development of new antibiotics, to combat resistance.
Mid and long term - more hospitalisations due which could be avoided, again, choose your poison, greater tax contribution to avoid this, or accept an increase in strain on the NHS.
Short term - lower individual productivity per year due to increased risk of food poisoning.
It's not about one change causing a disaster, it's about multiple slight changes causing a ripple effect, ultimately changing your quality of life and your financial surplus. |
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"If it comes to a deal with the US UK will either up keep their standards for UK products which means uk farmers will struggle to make a living with American produce coming in at lower price or if they reduce standards UK will loose exports to the EU market. I certainly won't buy anything with UK label after a UK-US deal. "
We are likely heading the way of the latter.
Yesterday MPs voted to block an amendment which would prevent the deregulation of animal product import standards.
In short, the ground work is now layed for US animal products.
With any trade deal that comes with this, or products that come via WTO only, there will be a ban on origin of product labelling.
That's a condition of US trade deals in animal and agricultural products and a condition of WTO trade.
So the ground work for the removal of origin of product labelling is now in place. |
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By *ackal1 OP Couple
over a year ago
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"If it comes to a deal with the US UK will either up keep their standards for UK products which means uk farmers will struggle to make a living with American produce coming in at lower price or if they reduce standards UK will loose exports to the EU market. I certainly won't buy anything with UK label after a UK-US deal.
We are likely heading the way of the latter.
Yesterday MPs voted to block an amendment which would prevent the deregulation of animal product import standards.
In short, the ground work is now layed for US animal products.
With any trade deal that comes with this, or products that come via WTO only, there will be a ban on origin of product labelling.
That's a condition of US trade deals in animal and agricultural products and a condition of WTO trade.
So the ground work for the removal of origin of product labelling is now in place."
We’re basically fucked over already then !
What a disgraceful way to run a country. Total disregard for our health and wellbeing at the expense of vested interests .
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"If it comes to a deal with the US UK will either up keep their standards for UK products which means uk farmers will struggle to make a living with American produce coming in at lower price or if they reduce standards UK will loose exports to the EU market. I certainly won't buy anything with UK label after a UK-US deal.
We are likely heading the way of the latter.
Yesterday MPs voted to block an amendment which would prevent the deregulation of animal product import standards.
In short, the ground work is now layed for US animal products.
With any trade deal that comes with this, or products that come via WTO only, there will be a ban on origin of product labelling.
That's a condition of US trade deals in animal and agricultural products and a condition of WTO trade.
So the ground work for the removal of origin of product labelling is now in place.
We’re basically fucked over already then !
What a disgraceful way to run a country. Total disregard for our health and wellbeing at the expense of vested interests .
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"Project fear" is becoming reality. |
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"If it comes to a deal with the US UK will either up keep their standards for UK products which means uk farmers will struggle to make a living with American produce coming in at lower price or if they reduce standards UK will loose exports to the EU market. I certainly won't buy anything with UK label after a UK-US deal.
We are likely heading the way of the latter.
Yesterday MPs voted to block an amendment which would prevent the deregulation of animal product import standards.
In short, the ground work is now layed for US animal products.
With any trade deal that comes with this, or products that come via WTO only, there will be a ban on origin of product labelling.
That's a condition of US trade deals in animal and agricultural products and a condition of WTO trade.
So the ground work for the removal of origin of product labelling is now in place.
We’re basically fucked over already then !
What a disgraceful way to run a country. Total disregard for our health and wellbeing at the expense of vested interests .
"
Largely yes.
Some would say deviating from EU standards gives us a chance to increase them.
But logically you would not remove barriers to inferior products if this were the case.
Most people won't care about this going by the attention it gets in the public.
But then most people don't understand that having an NHS isn't a right, but a responsibility to do what you can to stay healthy so resources are conserved. |
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By *ackal1 OP Couple
over a year ago
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"If it comes to a deal with the US UK will either up keep their standards for UK products which means uk farmers will struggle to make a living with American produce coming in at lower price or if they reduce standards UK will loose exports to the EU market. I certainly won't buy anything with UK label after a UK-US deal.
We are likely heading the way of the latter.
Yesterday MPs voted to block an amendment which would prevent the deregulation of animal product import standards.
In short, the ground work is now layed for US animal products.
With any trade deal that comes with this, or products that come via WTO only, there will be a ban on origin of product labelling.
That's a condition of US trade deals in animal and agricultural products and a condition of WTO trade.
So the ground work for the removal of origin of product labelling is now in place.
We’re basically fucked over already then !
What a disgraceful way to run a country. Total disregard for our health and wellbeing at the expense of vested interests .
Largely yes.
Some would say deviating from EU standards gives us a chance to increase them.
But logically you would not remove barriers to inferior products if this were the case.
Most people won't care about this going by the attention it gets in the public.
But then most people don't understand that having an NHS isn't a right, but a responsibility to do what you can to stay healthy so resources are conserved."
I think you’re right regarding the public but where are the right wing press? Yes praising a deal at any cost sells to ignorant people as long as they don’t know the reality.
I would suspect if this non labelling does go through the major food producers who export will have to consider where their factories are situated. If they can’t export to the EU then I suspect they will be moving at least some of the production if not all. . No one is going to close the door on such a huge market willingly. |
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"If it comes to a deal with the US UK will either up keep their standards for UK products which means uk farmers will struggle to make a living with American produce coming in at lower price or if they reduce standards UK will loose exports to the EU market. I certainly won't buy anything with UK label after a UK-US deal.
We are likely heading the way of the latter.
Yesterday MPs voted to block an amendment which would prevent the deregulation of animal product import standards.
In short, the ground work is now layed for US animal products.
With any trade deal that comes with this, or products that come via WTO only, there will be a ban on origin of product labelling.
That's a condition of US trade deals in animal and agricultural products and a condition of WTO trade.
So the ground work for the removal of origin of product labelling is now in place.
We’re basically fucked over already then !
What a disgraceful way to run a country. Total disregard for our health and wellbeing at the expense of vested interests .
Largely yes.
Some would say deviating from EU standards gives us a chance to increase them.
But logically you would not remove barriers to inferior products if this were the case.
Most people won't care about this going by the attention it gets in the public.
But then most people don't understand that having an NHS isn't a right, but a responsibility to do what you can to stay healthy so resources are conserved."
The EU provided minimum standards. We were always able to increase them at any time. |
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"If it comes to a deal with the US UK will either up keep their standards for UK products which means uk farmers will struggle to make a living with American produce coming in at lower price or if they reduce standards UK will loose exports to the EU market. I certainly won't buy anything with UK label after a UK-US deal.
We are likely heading the way of the latter.
Yesterday MPs voted to block an amendment which would prevent the deregulation of animal product import standards.
In short, the ground work is now layed for US animal products.
With any trade deal that comes with this, or products that come via WTO only, there will be a ban on origin of product labelling.
That's a condition of US trade deals in animal and agricultural products and a condition of WTO trade.
So the ground work for the removal of origin of product labelling is now in place.
We’re basically fucked over already then !
What a disgraceful way to run a country. Total disregard for our health and wellbeing at the expense of vested interests .
Largely yes.
Some would say deviating from EU standards gives us a chance to increase them.
But logically you would not remove barriers to inferior products if this were the case.
Most people won't care about this going by the attention it gets in the public.
But then most people don't understand that having an NHS isn't a right, but a responsibility to do what you can to stay healthy so resources are conserved."
So people shouldnt doing stupid things like smoking.drinking..shaking hands with people who have Corona? |
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"If it comes to a deal with the US UK will either up keep their standards for UK products which means uk farmers will struggle to make a living with American produce coming in at lower price or if they reduce standards UK will loose exports to the EU market. I certainly won't buy anything with UK label after a UK-US deal.
We are likely heading the way of the latter.
Yesterday MPs voted to block an amendment which would prevent the deregulation of animal product import standards.
In short, the ground work is now layed for US animal products.
With any trade deal that comes with this, or products that come via WTO only, there will be a ban on origin of product labelling.
That's a condition of US trade deals in animal and agricultural products and a condition of WTO trade.
So the ground work for the removal of origin of product labelling is now in place.
We’re basically fucked over already then !
What a disgraceful way to run a country. Total disregard for our health and wellbeing at the expense of vested interests .
Largely yes.
Some would say deviating from EU standards gives us a chance to increase them.
But logically you would not remove barriers to inferior products if this were the case.
Most people won't care about this going by the attention it gets in the public.
But then most people don't understand that having an NHS isn't a right, but a responsibility to do what you can to stay healthy so resources are conserved.
The EU provided minimum standards. We were always able to increase them at any time."
Yes I know, I'm just stating the argument that the pro-brexit politicians make, even though if you just think of it, it smells of bullshit. |
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"If it comes to a deal with the US UK will either up keep their standards for UK products which means uk farmers will struggle to make a living with American produce coming in at lower price or if they reduce standards UK will loose exports to the EU market. I certainly won't buy anything with UK label after a UK-US deal.
We are likely heading the way of the latter.
Yesterday MPs voted to block an amendment which would prevent the deregulation of animal product import standards.
In short, the ground work is now layed for US animal products.
With any trade deal that comes with this, or products that come via WTO only, there will be a ban on origin of product labelling.
That's a condition of US trade deals in animal and agricultural products and a condition of WTO trade.
So the ground work for the removal of origin of product labelling is now in place.
We’re basically fucked over already then !
What a disgraceful way to run a country. Total disregard for our health and wellbeing at the expense of vested interests .
Largely yes.
Some would say deviating from EU standards gives us a chance to increase them.
But logically you would not remove barriers to inferior products if this were the case.
Most people won't care about this going by the attention it gets in the public.
But then most people don't understand that having an NHS isn't a right, but a responsibility to do what you can to stay healthy so resources are conserved.
So people shouldnt doing stupid things like smoking.drinking..shaking hands with people who have Corona?"
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"If it comes to a deal with the US UK will either up keep their standards for UK products which means uk farmers will struggle to make a living with American produce coming in at lower price or if they reduce standards UK will loose exports to the EU market. I certainly won't buy anything with UK label after a UK-US deal.
We are likely heading the way of the latter.
Yesterday MPs voted to block an amendment which would prevent the deregulation of animal product import standards.
In short, the ground work is now layed for US animal products.
With any trade deal that comes with this, or products that come via WTO only, there will be a ban on origin of product labelling.
That's a condition of US trade deals in animal and agricultural products and a condition of WTO trade.
So the ground work for the removal of origin of product labelling is now in place.
We’re basically fucked over already then !
What a disgraceful way to run a country. Total disregard for our health and wellbeing at the expense of vested interests .
Largely yes.
Some would say deviating from EU standards gives us a chance to increase them.
But logically you would not remove barriers to inferior products if this were the case.
Most people won't care about this going by the attention it gets in the public.
But then most people don't understand that having an NHS isn't a right, but a responsibility to do what you can to stay healthy so resources are conserved.
The EU provided minimum standards. We were always able to increase them at any time.
Yes I know, I'm just stating the argument that the pro-brexit politicians make, even though if you just think of it, it smells of bullshit."
Oh gotcha.
Yeah.
This whole thing feels like a repeat of the arguments back in 2016.
It was labelled "project fear" back then. Just like everything else we were told would happen if we voted leave. |
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"If it comes to a deal with the US UK will either up keep their standards for UK products which means uk farmers will struggle to make a living with American produce coming in at lower price or if they reduce standards UK will loose exports to the EU market. I certainly won't buy anything with UK label after a UK-US deal.
We are likely heading the way of the latter.
Yesterday MPs voted to block an amendment which would prevent the deregulation of animal product import standards.
In short, the ground work is now layed for US animal products.
With any trade deal that comes with this, or products that come via WTO only, there will be a ban on origin of product labelling.
That's a condition of US trade deals in animal and agricultural products and a condition of WTO trade.
So the ground work for the removal of origin of product labelling is now in place.
We’re basically fucked over already then !
What a disgraceful way to run a country. Total disregard for our health and wellbeing at the expense of vested interests .
Largely yes.
Some would say deviating from EU standards gives us a chance to increase them.
But logically you would not remove barriers to inferior products if this were the case.
Most people won't care about this going by the attention it gets in the public.
But then most people don't understand that having an NHS isn't a right, but a responsibility to do what you can to stay healthy so resources are conserved.
The EU provided minimum standards. We were always able to increase them at any time."
But not free to lower them which was reassuring ! |
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"The program tonight was looking into the world of American food. It’s horrific.
The onus in the US is on the public to prove something isn’t safe rather than the company prove it’s safe.
Their milk, drinks and vegetables are just full of nasty chemicals which we presently ban under EU rules as there is a risk of ill health and in some cases cancer.
Whilst we keep being told by the government they are not dropping standards they keep blocking or rejecting any legislation that enshrines our food safety standards. Why is that?
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You clearly never been out Texas way that's for sure you Britt's are just spoon fed bullshit. I mean this is the land of mad cow disease, foot and mouth and horse meat in burgers right!  |
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"The program tonight was looking into the world of American food. It’s horrific.
The onus in the US is on the public to prove something isn’t safe rather than the company prove it’s safe.
Their milk, drinks and vegetables are just full of nasty chemicals which we presently ban under EU rules as there is a risk of ill health and in some cases cancer.
Whilst we keep being told by the government they are not dropping standards they keep blocking or rejecting any legislation that enshrines our food safety standards. Why is that?
You clearly never been out Texas way that's for sure you Britt's are just spoon fed bullshit. I mean this is the land of mad cow disease, foot and mouth and horse meat in burgers right! "
What goes it tell you about US food safety when people from the land of mad cow disease, foot in mouth and horse meat, won't go near US produce?
As fun as it would be to joke about all evening. Learning about the meat and dairy industry in the states should be something any visiting should do. |
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