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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
A poll has labour and Tory neck and neck. I don't believe in polls but surely if it's true then what an achievement. Can't imagine any party in power doing so well during a pandemic and Brexit ... but to be honest I don't pay much attention to mid term polls. |
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"A poll has labour and Tory neck and neck. I don't believe in polls but surely if it's true then what an achievement. Can't imagine any party in power doing so well during a pandemic and Brexit ... but to be honest I don't pay much attention to mid term polls."
Lifelong tories arent going to suddenly change their voting habits and the red wall will refuse to admit they were wrong. |
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"A poll has labour and Tory neck and neck. I don't believe in polls but surely if it's true then what an achievement. Can't imagine any party in power doing so well during a pandemic and Brexit ... but to be honest I don't pay much attention to mid term polls."
Another poll has the Conservatives ahead of Labour. given everything that is going on, only 2 points lower than they were prior to the GE seems quite reasonable.
And in another poll the Greens have overtaken the LibDems as the third largest U.K. party.
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"A poll has labour and Tory neck and neck. I don't believe in polls but surely if it's true then what an achievement. Can't imagine any party in power doing so well during a pandemic and Brexit ... but to be honest I don't pay much attention to mid term polls.
Lifelong tories arent going to suddenly change their voting habits and the red wall will refuse to admit they were wrong."
so the red wall are all wrong?  |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"A poll has labour and Tory neck and neck. I don't believe in polls but surely if it's true then what an achievement. Can't imagine any party in power doing so well during a pandemic and Brexit ... but to be honest I don't pay much attention to mid term polls."
sorry it made be laugh when you said mid term... the general election was only 10 months ago!!!...... we are 10 months into a 60 month potential term!!!  |
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"A poll has labour and Tory neck and neck. I don't believe in polls but surely if it's true then what an achievement. Can't imagine any party in power doing so well during a pandemic and Brexit ... but to be honest I don't pay much attention to mid term polls."
If you don't believe in polls why say something is an achievement?
Why even post a thread on something you don't believe? |
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over a year ago
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"A poll has labour and Tory neck and neck. I don't believe in polls but surely if it's true then what an achievement. Can't imagine any party in power doing so well during a pandemic and Brexit ... but to be honest I don't pay much attention to mid term polls."
Mid term?? , why is it ‘an achievement’?  |
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"A poll has labour and Tory neck and neck. I don't believe in polls but surely if it's true then what an achievement. Can't imagine any party in power doing so well during a pandemic and Brexit ... but to be honest I don't pay much attention to mid term polls.
Another poll has the Conservatives ahead of Labour. given everything that is going on, only 2 points lower than they were prior to the GE seems quite reasonable.
And in another poll the Greens have overtaken the LibDems as the third largest U.K. party.
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The SNP are the UK's third largest party. |
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"A poll has labour and Tory neck and neck. I don't believe in polls but surely if it's true then what an achievement. Can't imagine any party in power doing so well during a pandemic and Brexit ... but to be honest I don't pay much attention to mid term polls.
Another poll has the Conservatives ahead of Labour. given everything that is going on, only 2 points lower than they were prior to the GE seems quite reasonable.
And in another poll the Greens have overtaken the LibDems as the third largest U.K. party.
The SNP are the UK's third largest party."
The YouGov voter intention poll indicated Greens had overtaken LibDems to third place with 6%. (libdems on 5% along with SNP on 5%)
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"A poll has labour and Tory neck and neck. I don't believe in polls but surely if it's true then what an achievement. Can't imagine any party in power doing so well during a pandemic and Brexit ... but to be honest I don't pay much attention to mid term polls."
Probably caused by the way Labour has started to critisise the government in a corbynistic way.The northern mayors are an example two faced pigs
They wanted more lockdown now it is happening they want less they are just showing themeselves up for what they are.Lisa Nandy talking crap again.
They should have stayed in there bunkers. |
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over a year ago
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"A poll has labour and Tory neck and neck. I don't believe in polls but surely if it's true then what an achievement. Can't imagine any party in power doing so well during a pandemic and Brexit ... but to be honest I don't pay much attention to mid term polls."
I agree with all of this actually. Polls so far away from a GE aren't worth paying much attention to.
But it's a fantastic achievement for the Conservative press office and the Tory party control over the media. People still think they're worth voting for despite the contempt they show for the British people, especially as you said, during the pandemic and brexit. It's remarkable. |
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"A poll has labour and Tory neck and neck. I don't believe in polls but surely if it's true then what an achievement. Can't imagine any party in power doing so well during a pandemic and Brexit ... but to be honest I don't pay much attention to mid term polls.Probably caused by the way Labour has started to critisise the government in a corbynistic way.The northern mayors are an example two faced pigs
They wanted more lockdown now it is happening they want less they are just showing themeselves up for what they are.Lisa Nandy talking crap again.
They should have stayed in there bunkers."
2 faced pigs
Outstanding
Are the tories still socialists? |
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over a year ago
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"A poll has labour and Tory neck and neck. I don't believe in polls but surely if it's true then what an achievement. Can't imagine any party in power doing so well during a pandemic and Brexit ... but to be honest I don't pay much attention to mid term polls.Probably caused by the way Labour has started to critisise the government in a corbynistic way.The northern mayors are an example two faced pigs
They wanted more lockdown now it is happening they want less they are just showing themeselves up for what they are.Lisa Nandy talking crap again.
They should have stayed in there bunkers."
Haha, yet more drivel , |
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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago
bournemouth |
"A poll has labour and Tory neck and neck. I don't believe in polls but surely if it's true then what an achievement. Can't imagine any party in power doing so well during a pandemic and Brexit ... but to be honest I don't pay much attention to mid term polls.
I agree with all of this actually. Polls so far away from a GE aren't worth paying much attention to.
But it's a fantastic achievement for the Conservative press office and the Tory party control over the media. People still think they're worth voting for despite the contempt they show for the British people, especially as you said, during the pandemic and brexit. It's remarkable."
Would that be the brexit contempt to actually do what the voters decided, unlike the lib dems who wanted to ignore it and labour who wouldnt say what they were going to do about it, of course the Tories last prime minister had tried to ignore the vote. |
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"A poll has labour and Tory neck and neck. I don't believe in polls but surely if it's true then what an achievement. Can't imagine any party in power doing so well during a pandemic and Brexit ... but to be honest I don't pay much attention to mid term polls.
I agree with all of this actually. Polls so far away from a GE aren't worth paying much attention to.
But it's a fantastic achievement for the Conservative press office and the Tory party control over the media. People still think they're worth voting for despite the contempt they show for the British people, especially as you said, during the pandemic and brexit. It's remarkable.
Would that be the brexit contempt to actually do what the voters decided, unlike the lib dems who wanted to ignore it and labour who wouldnt say what they were going to do about it, of course the Tories last prime minister had tried to ignore the vote."
Labour said they would have a 2and ref. |
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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago
bournemouth |
"A poll has labour and Tory neck and neck. I don't believe in polls but surely if it's true then what an achievement. Can't imagine any party in power doing so well during a pandemic and Brexit ... but to be honest I don't pay much attention to mid term polls.
I agree with all of this actually. Polls so far away from a GE aren't worth paying much attention to.
But it's a fantastic achievement for the Conservative press office and the Tory party control over the media. People still think they're worth voting for despite the contempt they show for the British people, especially as you said, during the pandemic and brexit. It's remarkable.
Would that be the brexit contempt to actually do what the voters decided, unlike the lib dems who wanted to ignore it and labour who wouldnt say what they were going to do about it, of course the Tories last prime minister had tried to ignore the vote.
Labour said they would have a 2and ref."
You mean a third one. Corbyn refused to say what he would vote for, labour said they would do deal with the eu and then put it to a vote, only a complete idiot would think that was a good way of doing it.
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"A poll has labour and Tory neck and neck. I don't believe in polls but surely if it's true then what an achievement. Can't imagine any party in power doing so well during a pandemic and Brexit ... but to be honest I don't pay much attention to mid term polls.
If you don't believe in polls why say something is an achievement?
Why even post a thread on something you don't believe?"
Just an observation.. a difficult time to be in power |
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"A poll has labour and Tory neck and neck. I don't believe in polls but surely if it's true then what an achievement. Can't imagine any party in power doing so well during a pandemic and Brexit ... but to be honest I don't pay much attention to mid term polls.
I agree with all of this actually. Polls so far away from a GE aren't worth paying much attention to.
But it's a fantastic achievement for the Conservative press office and the Tory party control over the media. People still think they're worth voting for despite the contempt they show for the British people, especially as you said, during the pandemic and brexit. It's remarkable.
Would that be the brexit contempt to actually do what the voters decided, unlike the lib dems who wanted to ignore it and labour who wouldnt say what they were going to do about it, of course the Tories last prime minister had tried to ignore the vote.
Labour said they would have a 2and ref.
You mean a third one. Corbyn refused to say what he would vote for, labour said they would do deal with the eu and then put it to a vote, only a complete idiot would think that was a good way of doing it.
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No a 2and one as we had only 1 for
What difference does it make which way Corbyn voted?
The country was split into 2.
A 2nd ref which gave people more background information and a clear outcome of what would happen in the event of an in/out vote.
Yeah sounds completely crackers. |
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"A poll has labour and Tory neck and neck. I don't believe in polls but surely if it's true then what an achievement. Can't imagine any party in power doing so well during a pandemic and Brexit ... but to be honest I don't pay much attention to mid term polls.
If you don't believe in polls why say something is an achievement?
Why even post a thread on something you don't believe?
Just an observation.. a difficult time to be in power "
Not really.
Plenty of money to be made. |
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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago
bournemouth |
"A poll has labour and Tory neck and neck. I don't believe in polls but surely if it's true then what an achievement. Can't imagine any party in power doing so well during a pandemic and Brexit ... but to be honest I don't pay much attention to mid term polls.
I agree with all of this actually. Polls so far away from a GE aren't worth paying much attention to.
But it's a fantastic achievement for the Conservative press office and the Tory party control over the media. People still think they're worth voting for despite the contempt they show for the British people, especially as you said, during the pandemic and brexit. It's remarkable.
Would that be the brexit contempt to actually do what the voters decided, unlike the lib dems who wanted to ignore it and labour who wouldnt say what they were going to do about it, of course the Tories last prime minister had tried to ignore the vote.
Labour said they would have a 2and ref.
You mean a third one. Corbyn refused to say what he would vote for, labour said they would do deal with the eu and then put it to a vote, only a complete idiot would think that was a good way of doing it.
No a 2and one as we had only 1 for
What difference does it make which way Corbyn voted?
The country was split into 2.
A 2nd ref which gave people more background information and a clear outcome of what would happen in the event of an in/out vote.
Yeah sounds completely crackers."
First one was in 75, the country has been split into two many times after GEs but we dont have a rerun due to bad losers.
Even with your strange reality can you think that these would have agreed a good deal for us to vote on, even a child could work that out. |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"A bag of sugar would have beaten Corbyn at an election..
He was unelectable
Think this myth has been debunked many times before.
So he got elected ?
Do we really need to go through this again?"
Don't tell me..
He won the arguement but lost the election.. |
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over a year ago
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"A poll has labour and Tory neck and neck. I don't believe in polls but surely if it's true then what an achievement. Can't imagine any party in power doing so well during a pandemic and Brexit ... but to be honest I don't pay much attention to mid term polls.
Lifelong tories arent going to suddenly change their voting habits and the red wall will refuse to admit they were wrong.so the red wall are all wrong? "
Anyone earning less than £100k and who votes Tory is wrong. |
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"A bag of sugar would have beaten Corbyn at an election..
He was unelectable
Think this myth has been debunked many times before.
So he got elected ?
Do we really need to go through this again?
Don't tell me..
He won the arguement but lost the election.. "
Was churchill unelectable? |
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"A poll has labour and Tory neck and neck. I don't believe in polls but surely if it's true then what an achievement. Can't imagine any party in power doing so well during a pandemic and Brexit ... but to be honest I don't pay much attention to mid term polls.
I agree with all of this actually. Polls so far away from a GE aren't worth paying much attention to.
But it's a fantastic achievement for the Conservative press office and the Tory party control over the media. People still think they're worth voting for despite the contempt they show for the British people, especially as you said, during the pandemic and brexit. It's remarkable.
Would that be the brexit contempt to actually do what the voters decided, unlike the lib dems who wanted to ignore it and labour who wouldnt say what they were going to do about it, of course the Tories last prime minister had tried to ignore the vote.
Labour said they would have a 2and ref.
You mean a third one. Corbyn refused to say what he would vote for, labour said they would do deal with the eu and then put it to a vote, only a complete idiot would think that was a good way of doing it.
No a 2and one as we had only 1 for
What difference does it make which way Corbyn voted?
The country was split into 2.
A 2nd ref which gave people more background information and a clear outcome of what would happen in the event of an in/out vote.
Yeah sounds completely crackers.
First one was in 75, the country has been split into two many times after GEs but we dont have a rerun due to bad losers.
Even with your strange reality can you think that these would have agreed a good deal for us to vote on, even a child could work that out."
Those evil Europeans upto their old tricks. |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"A bag of sugar would have beaten Corbyn at an election..
He was unelectable
Think this myth has been debunked many times before.
So he got elected ?
Do we really need to go through this again?
Don't tell me..
He won the arguement but lost the election..
Was churchill unelectable?"
Lionel please..
Corby had the worst result since Moses put animals in the Ark .. |
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"A bag of sugar would have beaten Corbyn at an election..
He was unelectable
Think this myth has been debunked many times before.
So he got elected ?
Do we really need to go through this again?
Don't tell me..
He won the arguement but lost the election..
Was churchill unelectable?
Lionel please..
Corby had the worst result since Moses put animals in the Ark .. "
Was churchill unelectable? |
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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago
bournemouth |
"A poll has labour and Tory neck and neck. I don't believe in polls but surely if it's true then what an achievement. Can't imagine any party in power doing so well during a pandemic and Brexit ... but to be honest I don't pay much attention to mid term polls.
I agree with all of this actually. Polls so far away from a GE aren't worth paying much attention to.
But it's a fantastic achievement for the Conservative press office and the Tory party control over the media. People still think they're worth voting for despite the contempt they show for the British people, especially as you said, during the pandemic and brexit. It's remarkable.
Would that be the brexit contempt to actually do what the voters decided, unlike the lib dems who wanted to ignore it and labour who wouldnt say what they were going to do about it, of course the Tories last prime minister had tried to ignore the vote.
Labour said they would have a 2and ref.
You mean a third one. Corbyn refused to say what he would vote for, labour said they would do deal with the eu and then put it to a vote, only a complete idiot would think that was a good way of doing it.
No a 2and one as we had only 1 for
What difference does it make which way Corbyn voted?
The country was split into 2.
A 2nd ref which gave people more background information and a clear outcome of what would happen in the event of an in/out vote.
Yeah sounds completely crackers.
First one was in 75, the country has been split into two many times after GEs but we dont have a rerun due to bad losers.
Even with your strange reality can you think that these would have agreed a good deal for us to vote on, even a child could work that out.
Those evil Europeans upto their old tricks."
How about a grown up reply. |
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over a year ago
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"A poll has labour and Tory neck and neck. I don't believe in polls but surely if it's true then what an achievement. Can't imagine any party in power doing so well during a pandemic and Brexit ... but to be honest I don't pay much attention to mid term polls.
I agree with all of this actually. Polls so far away from a GE aren't worth paying much attention to.
But it's a fantastic achievement for the Conservative press office and the Tory party control over the media. People still think they're worth voting for despite the contempt they show for the British people, especially as you said, during the pandemic and brexit. It's remarkable.
Would that be the brexit contempt to actually do what the voters decided, unlike the lib dems who wanted to ignore it and labour who wouldnt say what they were going to do about it, of course the Tories last prime minister had tried to ignore the vote."
I'm not sure I follow. But I do lay the blame for Brexit on the Tories. And they're clearly to blame for pushing towards the most damaging version of brexit.
But clearly people don't care and keep voting for them and supporting them anyway. As per the OP. |
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"A poll has labour and Tory neck and neck. I don't believe in polls but surely if it's true then what an achievement. Can't imagine any party in power doing so well during a pandemic and Brexit ... but to be honest I don't pay much attention to mid term polls.
I agree with all of this actually. Polls so far away from a GE aren't worth paying much attention to.
But it's a fantastic achievement for the Conservative press office and the Tory party control over the media. People still think they're worth voting for despite the contempt they show for the British people, especially as you said, during the pandemic and brexit. It's remarkable.
Would that be the brexit contempt to actually do what the voters decided, unlike the lib dems who wanted to ignore it and labour who wouldnt say what they were going to do about it, of course the Tories last prime minister had tried to ignore the vote.
Labour said they would have a 2and ref.
You mean a third one. Corbyn refused to say what he would vote for, labour said they would do deal with the eu and then put it to a vote, only a complete idiot would think that was a good way of doing it.
No a 2and one as we had only 1 for
What difference does it make which way Corbyn voted?
The country was split into 2.
A 2nd ref which gave people more background information and a clear outcome of what would happen in the event of an in/out vote.
Yeah sounds completely crackers.
First one was in 75, the country has been split into two many times after GEs but we dont have a rerun due to bad losers.
Even with your strange reality can you think that these would have agreed a good deal for us to vote on, even a child could work that out.
Those evil Europeans upto their old tricks.
How about a grown up reply. "
Well thank god we are only going to come out with a great deal now. |
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"A poll has labour and Tory neck and neck. I don't believe in polls but surely if it's true then what an achievement. Can't imagine any party in power doing so well during a pandemic and Brexit ... but to be honest I don't pay much attention to mid term polls.
If you don't believe in polls why say something is an achievement?
Why even post a thread on something you don't believe?
Just an observation.. a difficult time to be in power "
When you so want the captaincy that you stab the previous leader in the back, effectively organise her downfall and then when you get the armband you take what is thrown at you..
Boris ducked it when Cameron walked away after the referendum as the penny dropped that all the promises he made were largely unachievable..
He cant duck this issue and it's obvious he's out of his depth so yes a tough time for any leader but having chopped many sensible Tories in his Brexit is all drive he has well and truly made his bed..
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"A poll has labour and Tory neck and neck. I don't believe in polls but surely if it's true then what an achievement. Can't imagine any party in power doing so well during a pandemic and Brexit ... but to be honest I don't pay much attention to mid term polls.Probably caused by the way Labour has started to critisise the government in a corbynistic way.The northern mayors are an example two faced pigs
They wanted more lockdown now it is happening they want less they are just showing themeselves up for what they are.Lisa Nandy talking crap again.
They should have stayed in there bunkers.
2 faced pigs
Outstanding
Are the tories still socialists?"
Yes |
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"A poll has labour and Tory neck and neck. I don't believe in polls but surely if it's true then what an achievement. Can't imagine any party in power doing so well during a pandemic and Brexit ... but to be honest I don't pay much attention to mid term polls.Probably caused by the way Labour has started to critisise the government in a corbynistic way.The northern mayors are an example two faced pigs
They wanted more lockdown now it is happening they want less they are just showing themeselves up for what they are.Lisa Nandy talking crap again.
They should have stayed in there bunkers.
2 faced pigs
Outstanding
Are the tories still socialists?Yes"
Brilliant |
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"A poll has labour and Tory neck and neck. I don't believe in polls but surely if it's true then what an achievement. Can't imagine any party in power doing so well during a pandemic and Brexit ... but to be honest I don't pay much attention to mid term polls.Probably caused by the way Labour has started to critisise the government in a corbynistic way.The northern mayors are an example two faced pigs
They wanted more lockdown now it is happening they want less they are just showing themeselves up for what they are.Lisa Nandy talking crap again.
They should have stayed in there bunkers.
2 faced pigs
Outstanding
Are the tories still socialists?Yes"
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"A poll has labour and Tory neck and neck. I don't believe in polls but surely if it's true then what an achievement. Can't imagine any party in power doing so well during a pandemic and Brexit ... but to be honest I don't pay much attention to mid term polls.
If you don't believe in polls why say something is an achievement?
Why even post a thread on something you don't believe?
Just an observation.. a difficult time to be in power
When you so want the captaincy that you stab the previous leader in the back, effectively organise her downfall and then when you get the armband you take what is thrown at you..
Boris ducked it when Cameron walked away after the referendum as the penny dropped that all the promises he made were largely unachievable..
He cant duck this issue and it's obvious he's out of his depth so yes a tough time for any leader but having chopped many sensible Tories in his Brexit is all drive he has well and truly made his bed..
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Visions of Brown v Bliar |
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"A poll has labour and Tory neck and neck. I don't believe in polls but surely if it's true then what an achievement. Can't imagine any party in power doing so well during a pandemic and Brexit ... but to be honest I don't pay much attention to mid term polls.
If you don't believe in polls why say something is an achievement?
Why even post a thread on something you don't believe?
Just an observation.. a difficult time to be in power
When you so want the captaincy that you stab the previous leader in the back, effectively organise her downfall and then when you get the armband you take what is thrown at you..
Boris ducked it when Cameron walked away after the referendum as the penny dropped that all the promises he made were largely unachievable..
He cant duck this issue and it's obvious he's out of his depth so yes a tough time for any leader but having chopped many sensible Tories in his Brexit is all drive he has well and truly made his bed..
Visions of Brown v Bliar "
No..
I think anyone looking at both objectively will find differences, brown as the chancellor wanted the top job as did Boris with may but brown did not openly with others plot be and vote to bring her down .. |
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"A poll has labour and Tory neck and neck. I don't believe in polls but surely if it's true then what an achievement. Can't imagine any party in power doing so well during a pandemic and Brexit ... but to be honest I don't pay much attention to mid term polls.
If you don't believe in polls why say something is an achievement?
Why even post a thread on something you don't believe?
Just an observation.. a difficult time to be in power
When you so want the captaincy that you stab the previous leader in the back, effectively organise her downfall and then when you get the armband you take what is thrown at you..
Boris ducked it when Cameron walked away after the referendum as the penny dropped that all the promises he made were largely unachievable..
He cant duck this issue and it's obvious he's out of his depth so yes a tough time for any leader but having chopped many sensible Tories in his Brexit is all drive he has well and truly made his bed..
Visions of Brown v Bliar
No..
I think anyone looking at both objectively will find differences, brown as the chancellor wanted the top job as did Boris with may but brown did not openly with others plot be and vote to bring her down .."
Didnt blair promise the job to brown aswell? |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"A poll has labour and Tory neck and neck. I don't believe in polls but surely if it's true then what an achievement. Can't imagine any party in power doing so well during a pandemic and Brexit ... but to be honest I don't pay much attention to mid term polls.
If you don't believe in polls why say something is an achievement?
Why even post a thread on something you don't believe?
Just an observation.. a difficult time to be in power
When you so want the captaincy that you stab the previous leader in the back, effectively organise her downfall and then when you get the armband you take what is thrown at you..
Boris ducked it when Cameron walked away after the referendum as the penny dropped that all the promises he made were largely unachievable..
He cant duck this issue and it's obvious he's out of his depth so yes a tough time for any leader but having chopped many sensible Tories in his Brexit is all drive he has well and truly made his bed..
Visions of Brown v Bliar
No..
I think anyone looking at both objectively will find differences, brown as the chancellor wanted the top job as did Boris with may but brown did not openly with others plot be and vote to bring her down ..
Didnt blair promise the job to brown aswell?"
Think it was another Tony ploy to delay.. .. Brown was out of his depth.. a mug.. given the top job when Bliar scarpered off the sinking ship |
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"A poll has labour and Tory neck and neck. I don't believe in polls but surely if it's true then what an achievement. Can't imagine any party in power doing so well during a pandemic and Brexit ... but to be honest I don't pay much attention to mid term polls.
If you don't believe in polls why say something is an achievement?
Why even post a thread on something you don't believe?
Just an observation.. a difficult time to be in power
When you so want the captaincy that you stab the previous leader in the back, effectively organise her downfall and then when you get the armband you take what is thrown at you..
Boris ducked it when Cameron walked away after the referendum as the penny dropped that all the promises he made were largely unachievable..
He cant duck this issue and it's obvious he's out of his depth so yes a tough time for any leader but having chopped many sensible Tories in his Brexit is all drive he has well and truly made his bed..
Visions of Brown v Bliar
No..
I think anyone looking at both objectively will find differences, brown as the chancellor wanted the top job as did Boris with may but brown did not openly with others plot be and vote to bring her down ..
Didnt blair promise the job to brown aswell?"
He did yes but brown wanted it a bit earlier than Blair was ready to go.. |
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"A poll has labour and Tory neck and neck. I don't believe in polls but surely if it's true then what an achievement. Can't imagine any party in power doing so well during a pandemic and Brexit ... but to be honest I don't pay much attention to mid term polls."
This might not be a bad thing. It should prevent the Conservative party becoming complacent and nearer to election time all resources can be dedicated to fighting another winning campaign.
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"A poll has labour and Tory neck and neck. I don't believe in polls but surely if it's true then what an achievement. Can't imagine any party in power doing so well during a pandemic and Brexit ... but to be honest I don't pay much attention to mid term polls.
If you don't believe in polls why say something is an achievement?
Why even post a thread on something you don't believe?
Just an observation.. a difficult time to be in power
When you so want the captaincy that you stab the previous leader in the back, effectively organise her downfall and then when you get the armband you take what is thrown at you..
Boris ducked it when Cameron walked away after the referendum as the penny dropped that all the promises he made were largely unachievable..
He cant duck this issue and it's obvious he's out of his depth so yes a tough time for any leader but having chopped many sensible Tories in his Brexit is all drive he has well and truly made his bed..
Visions of Brown v Bliar
No..
I think anyone looking at both objectively will find differences, brown as the chancellor wanted the top job as did Boris with may but brown did not openly with others plot be and vote to bring her down ..
Didnt blair promise the job to brown aswell?
Think it was another Tony ploy to delay.. .. Brown was out of his depth.. a mug.. given the top job when Bliar scarpered off the sinking ship"
He wasnt a pm
Still he looks like JFK compared to the current clown |
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"A poll has labour and Tory neck and neck. I don't believe in polls but surely if it's true then what an achievement. Can't imagine any party in power doing so well during a pandemic and Brexit ... but to be honest I don't pay much attention to mid term polls.
Lifelong tories arent going to suddenly change their voting habits and the red wall will refuse to admit they were wrong.so the red wall are all wrong?
Anyone earning less than £100k and who votes Tory is wrong."
. However your vote is not about what you earn. It is about having a sense of responsibility, realising that every service provided has a cost , and not being intimidated or prevented from by trade unionists or striking workers . Each party provides an NHS and a welfare state. A lot of people prefer to pay their way in life and have no desire to rely on taxes paid by the better off . |
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"A poll has labour and Tory neck and neck. I don't believe in polls but surely if it's true then what an achievement. Can't imagine any party in power doing so well during a pandemic and Brexit ... but to be honest I don't pay much attention to mid term polls.
Lifelong tories arent going to suddenly change their voting habits and the red wall will refuse to admit they were wrong.so the red wall are all wrong?
Anyone earning less than £100k and who votes Tory is wrong. . However your vote is not about what you earn. It is about having a sense of responsibility, realising that every service provided has a cost , and not being intimidated or prevented from by trade unionists or striking workers . Each party provides an NHS and a welfare state. A lot of people prefer to pay their way in life and have no desire to rely on taxes paid by the better off . "
Pat wake up you've nodded off and started rambling about the 70s..
And what on earth is that last paragraph about? |
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"A poll has labour and Tory neck and neck. I don't believe in polls but surely if it's true then what an achievement. Can't imagine any party in power doing so well during a pandemic and Brexit ... but to be honest I don't pay much attention to mid term polls.
Lifelong tories arent going to suddenly change their voting habits and the red wall will refuse to admit they were wrong.so the red wall are all wrong?
Anyone earning less than £100k and who votes Tory is wrong. . However your vote is not about what you earn. It is about having a sense of responsibility, realising that every service provided has a cost , and not being intimidated or prevented from by trade unionists or striking workers . Each party provides an NHS and a welfare state. A lot of people prefer to pay their way in life and have no desire to rely on taxes paid by the better off . "
You are in the taxpayers alliance arent you?
Go on you can tell us |
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"A poll has labour and Tory neck and neck. I don't believe in polls but surely if it's true then what an achievement. Can't imagine any party in power doing so well during a pandemic and Brexit ... but to be honest I don't pay much attention to mid term polls.
Lifelong tories arent going to suddenly change their voting habits and the red wall will refuse to admit they were wrong.so the red wall are all wrong?
Anyone earning less than £100k and who votes Tory is wrong. . However your vote is not about what you earn. It is about having a sense of responsibility, realising that every service provided has a cost , and not being intimidated or prevented from by trade unionists or striking workers . Each party provides an NHS and a welfare state. A lot of people prefer to pay their way in life and have no desire to rely on taxes paid by the better off . "
I hate to piss on your chips but you will never pay enough in taxes to pay for what you get out of the state, you are already reliant on taxes paid by those better off than you. |
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"A poll has labour and Tory neck and neck. I don't believe in polls but surely if it's true then what an achievement. Can't imagine any party in power doing so well during a pandemic and Brexit ... but to be honest I don't pay much attention to mid term polls.
If you don't believe in polls why say something is an achievement?
Why even post a thread on something you don't believe?
Just an observation.. a difficult time to be in power
When you so want the captaincy that you stab the previous leader in the back, effectively organise her downfall and then when you get the armband you take what is thrown at you..
Boris ducked it when Cameron walked away after the referendum as the penny dropped that all the promises he made were largely unachievable..
He cant duck this issue and it's obvious he's out of his depth so yes a tough time for any leader but having chopped many sensible Tories in his Brexit is all drive he has well and truly made his bed..
Visions of Brown v Bliar
No..
I think anyone looking at both objectively will find differences, brown as the chancellor wanted the top job as did Boris with may but brown did not openly with others plot be and vote to bring her down ..
Didnt blair promise the job to brown aswell?
Think it was another Tony ploy to delay.. .. Brown was out of his depth.. a mug.. given the top job when Bliar scarpered off the sinking ship"
Brown did a good job he is very underated as a PM.He also kept us out of the Euro the best thing he ever did |
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"A poll has labour and Tory neck and neck. I don't believe in polls but surely if it's true then what an achievement. Can't imagine any party in power doing so well during a pandemic and Brexit ... but to be honest I don't pay much attention to mid term polls.Probably caused by the way Labour has started to critisise the government in a corbynistic way.The northern mayors are an example two faced pigs
They wanted more lockdown now it is happening they want less they are just showing themeselves up for what they are.Lisa Nandy talking crap again.
They should have stayed in there bunkers.
2 faced pigs
Outstanding
Are the tories still socialists?Yes"
I'd love for Jacob Rees Mogg and the other ultra toff Tories to know that someone out there sees them a socialists.
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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"A poll has labour and Tory neck and neck. I don't believe in polls but surely if it's true then what an achievement. Can't imagine any party in power doing so well during a pandemic and Brexit ... but to be honest I don't pay much attention to mid term polls.
If you don't believe in polls why say something is an achievement?
Why even post a thread on something you don't believe?
Just an observation.. a difficult time to be in power
When you so want the captaincy that you stab the previous leader in the back, effectively organise her downfall and then when you get the armband you take what is thrown at you..
Boris ducked it when Cameron walked away after the referendum as the penny dropped that all the promises he made were largely unachievable..
He cant duck this issue and it's obvious he's out of his depth so yes a tough time for any leader but having chopped many sensible Tories in his Brexit is all drive he has well and truly made his bed..
Visions of Brown v Bliar
No..
I think anyone looking at both objectively will find differences, brown as the chancellor wanted the top job as did Boris with may but brown did not openly with others plot be and vote to bring her down ..
Didnt blair promise the job to brown aswell?
Think it was another Tony ploy to delay.. .. Brown was out of his depth.. a mug.. given the top job when Bliar scarpered off the sinking shipBrown did a good job he is very underated as a PM.He also kept us out of the Euro the best thing he ever did"
Well he did sell the gold off at rock bottom prices, launched the disastrous child trust funds and raided the tax relief on company pensions as well.. he also called a member of the public, 'that bigoted woman' ...
Great Guy... Is ability could not match his ambition... |
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"A poll has labour and Tory neck and neck. I don't believe in polls but surely if it's true then what an achievement. Can't imagine any party in power doing so well during a pandemic and Brexit ... but to be honest I don't pay much attention to mid term polls.
If you don't believe in polls why say something is an achievement?
Why even post a thread on something you don't believe?
Just an observation.. a difficult time to be in power
When you so want the captaincy that you stab the previous leader in the back, effectively organise her downfall and then when you get the armband you take what is thrown at you..
Boris ducked it when Cameron walked away after the referendum as the penny dropped that all the promises he made were largely unachievable..
He cant duck this issue and it's obvious he's out of his depth so yes a tough time for any leader but having chopped many sensible Tories in his Brexit is all drive he has well and truly made his bed..
Visions of Brown v Bliar
No..
I think anyone looking at both objectively will find differences, brown as the chancellor wanted the top job as did Boris with may but brown did not openly with others plot be and vote to bring her down ..
Didnt blair promise the job to brown aswell?
Think it was another Tony ploy to delay.. .. Brown was out of his depth.. a mug.. given the top job when Bliar scarpered off the sinking shipBrown did a good job he is very underated as a PM.He also kept us out of the Euro the best thing he ever did
Well he did sell the gold off at rock bottom prices, launched the disastrous child trust funds and raided the tax relief on company pensions as well.. he also called a member of the public, 'that bigoted woman' ...
Great Guy... Is ability could not match his ambition... "
To be fair she was a bigot. |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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"A poll has labour and Tory neck and neck. I don't believe in polls but surely if it's true then what an achievement. Can't imagine any party in power doing so well during a pandemic and Brexit ... but to be honest I don't pay much attention to mid term polls.
If you don't believe in polls why say something is an achievement?
Why even post a thread on something you don't believe?
Just an observation.. a difficult time to be in power
When you so want the captaincy that you stab the previous leader in the back, effectively organise her downfall and then when you get the armband you take what is thrown at you..
Boris ducked it when Cameron walked away after the referendum as the penny dropped that all the promises he made were largely unachievable..
He cant duck this issue and it's obvious he's out of his depth so yes a tough time for any leader but having chopped many sensible Tories in his Brexit is all drive he has well and truly made his bed..
Visions of Brown v Bliar
No..
I think anyone looking at both objectively will find differences, brown as the chancellor wanted the top job as did Boris with may but brown did not openly with others plot be and vote to bring her down ..
Didnt blair promise the job to brown aswell?
Think it was another Tony ploy to delay.. .. Brown was out of his depth.. a mug.. given the top job when Bliar scarpered off the sinking shipBrown did a good job he is very underated as a PM.He also kept us out of the Euro the best thing he ever did
Well he did sell the gold off at rock bottom prices, launched the disastrous child trust funds and raided the tax relief on company pensions as well.. he also called a member of the public, 'that bigoted woman' ...
Great Guy... Is ability could not match his ambition...
To be fair she was a bigot."
Well she had an opinion.. bigot or not it should not be used as a term to stifle debate... |
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"A poll has labour and Tory neck and neck. I don't believe in polls but surely if it's true then what an achievement. Can't imagine any party in power doing so well during a pandemic and Brexit ... but to be honest I don't pay much attention to mid term polls.
If you don't believe in polls why say something is an achievement?
Why even post a thread on something you don't believe?
Just an observation.. a difficult time to be in power
When you so want the captaincy that you stab the previous leader in the back, effectively organise her downfall and then when you get the armband you take what is thrown at you..
Boris ducked it when Cameron walked away after the referendum as the penny dropped that all the promises he made were largely unachievable..
He cant duck this issue and it's obvious he's out of his depth so yes a tough time for any leader but having chopped many sensible Tories in his Brexit is all drive he has well and truly made his bed..
Visions of Brown v Bliar
No..
I think anyone looking at both objectively will find differences, brown as the chancellor wanted the top job as did Boris with may but brown did not openly with others plot be and vote to bring her down ..
Didnt blair promise the job to brown aswell?
Think it was another Tony ploy to delay.. .. Brown was out of his depth.. a mug.. given the top job when Bliar scarpered off the sinking shipBrown did a good job he is very underated as a PM.He also kept us out of the Euro the best thing he ever did
Well he did sell the gold off at rock bottom prices, launched the disastrous child trust funds and raided the tax relief on company pensions as well.. he also called a member of the public, 'that bigoted woman' ...
Great Guy... Is ability could not match his ambition...
To be fair she was a bigot.
Well she had an opinion.. bigot or not it should not be used as a term to stifle debate..."
It wasn't was it, he used it to describe her after the event..
How is that stifling debate? |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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"A poll has labour and Tory neck and neck. I don't believe in polls but surely if it's true then what an achievement. Can't imagine any party in power doing so well during a pandemic and Brexit ... but to be honest I don't pay much attention to mid term polls.
If you don't believe in polls why say something is an achievement?
Why even post a thread on something you don't believe?
Just an observation.. a difficult time to be in power
When you so want the captaincy that you stab the previous leader in the back, effectively organise her downfall and then when you get the armband you take what is thrown at you..
Boris ducked it when Cameron walked away after the referendum as the penny dropped that all the promises he made were largely unachievable..
He cant duck this issue and it's obvious he's out of his depth so yes a tough time for any leader but having chopped many sensible Tories in his Brexit is all drive he has well and truly made his bed..
Visions of Brown v Bliar
No..
I think anyone looking at both objectively will find differences, brown as the chancellor wanted the top job as did Boris with may but brown did not openly with others plot be and vote to bring her down ..
Didnt blair promise the job to brown aswell?
Think it was another Tony ploy to delay.. .. Brown was out of his depth.. a mug.. given the top job when Bliar scarpered off the sinking shipBrown did a good job he is very underated as a PM.He also kept us out of the Euro the best thing he ever did
Well he did sell the gold off at rock bottom prices, launched the disastrous child trust funds and raided the tax relief on company pensions as well.. he also called a member of the public, 'that bigoted woman' ...
Great Guy... Is ability could not match his ambition...
To be fair she was a bigot.
Well she had an opinion.. bigot or not it should not be used as a term to stifle debate...
It wasn't was it, he used it to describe her after the event..
How is that stifling debate?"
Well he couldn't get back in the car quick enough. That pretty much stifled any debate with her... |
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"A poll has labour and Tory neck and neck. I don't believe in polls but surely if it's true then what an achievement. Can't imagine any party in power doing so well during a pandemic and Brexit ... but to be honest I don't pay much attention to mid term polls.
If you don't believe in polls why say something is an achievement?
Why even post a thread on something you don't believe?
Just an observation.. a difficult time to be in power
When you so want the captaincy that you stab the previous leader in the back, effectively organise her downfall and then when you get the armband you take what is thrown at you..
Boris ducked it when Cameron walked away after the referendum as the penny dropped that all the promises he made were largely unachievable..
He cant duck this issue and it's obvious he's out of his depth so yes a tough time for any leader but having chopped many sensible Tories in his Brexit is all drive he has well and truly made his bed..
Visions of Brown v Bliar
No..
I think anyone looking at both objectively will find differences, brown as the chancellor wanted the top job as did Boris with may but brown did not openly with others plot be and vote to bring her down ..
Didnt blair promise the job to brown aswell?
Think it was another Tony ploy to delay.. .. Brown was out of his depth.. a mug.. given the top job when Bliar scarpered off the sinking shipBrown did a good job he is very underated as a PM.He also kept us out of the Euro the best thing he ever did
Well he did sell the gold off at rock bottom prices, launched the disastrous child trust funds and raided the tax relief on company pensions as well.. he also called a member of the public, 'that bigoted woman' ...
Great Guy... Is ability could not match his ambition...
To be fair she was a bigot.
Well she had an opinion.. bigot or not it should not be used as a term to stifle debate...
It wasn't was it, he used it to describe her after the event..
How is that stifling debate?
Well he couldn't get back in the car quick enough. That pretty much stifled any debate with her... "
He did actually talk with her at length. |
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He also talked with her at length after the bigot incident. And accepted the blame. And apologised.
Feels a little different to the current bunch of Tories, doesn't it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEReCN9gO14 |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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"A poll has labour and Tory neck and neck. I don't believe in polls but surely if it's true then what an achievement. Can't imagine any party in power doing so well during a pandemic and Brexit ... but to be honest I don't pay much attention to mid term polls.
If you don't believe in polls why say something is an achievement?
Why even post a thread on something you don't believe?
Just an observation.. a difficult time to be in power
When you so want the captaincy that you stab the previous leader in the back, effectively organise her downfall and then when you get the armband you take what is thrown at you..
Boris ducked it when Cameron walked away after the referendum as the penny dropped that all the promises he made were largely unachievable..
He cant duck this issue and it's obvious he's out of his depth so yes a tough time for any leader but having chopped many sensible Tories in his Brexit is all drive he has well and truly made his bed..
Visions of Brown v Bliar
No..
I think anyone looking at both objectively will find differences, brown as the chancellor wanted the top job as did Boris with may but brown did not openly with others plot be and vote to bring her down ..
Didnt blair promise the job to brown aswell?
Think it was another Tony ploy to delay.. .. Brown was out of his depth.. a mug.. given the top job when Bliar scarpered off the sinking shipBrown did a good job he is very underated as a PM.He also kept us out of the Euro the best thing he ever did
Well he did sell the gold off at rock bottom prices, launched the disastrous child trust funds and raided the tax relief on company pensions as well.. he also called a member of the public, 'that bigoted woman' ...
Great Guy... Is ability could not match his ambition...
To be fair she was a bigot.
Well she had an opinion.. bigot or not it should not be used as a term to stifle debate...
It wasn't was it, he used it to describe her after the event..
How is that stifling debate?
Well he couldn't get back in the car quick enough. That pretty much stifled any debate with her...
He did actually talk with her at length."
He did, looked uncomfortable, then slagged her off and went back to apologize with his tail between his legs because the press outed him...
More faces than Big Ben... |
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"A poll has labour and Tory neck and neck. I don't believe in polls but surely if it's true then what an achievement. Can't imagine any party in power doing so well during a pandemic and Brexit ... but to be honest I don't pay much attention to mid term polls.
If you don't believe in polls why say something is an achievement?
Why even post a thread on something you don't believe?
Just an observation.. a difficult time to be in power
When you so want the captaincy that you stab the previous leader in the back, effectively organise her downfall and then when you get the armband you take what is thrown at you..
Boris ducked it when Cameron walked away after the referendum as the penny dropped that all the promises he made were largely unachievable..
He cant duck this issue and it's obvious he's out of his depth so yes a tough time for any leader but having chopped many sensible Tories in his Brexit is all drive he has well and truly made his bed..
Visions of Brown v Bliar
No..
I think anyone looking at both objectively will find differences, brown as the chancellor wanted the top job as did Boris with may but brown did not openly with others plot be and vote to bring her down ..
Didnt blair promise the job to brown aswell?
Think it was another Tony ploy to delay.. .. Brown was out of his depth.. a mug.. given the top job when Bliar scarpered off the sinking shipBrown did a good job he is very underated as a PM.He also kept us out of the Euro the best thing he ever did
Well he did sell the gold off at rock bottom prices, launched the disastrous child trust funds and raided the tax relief on company pensions as well.. he also called a member of the public, 'that bigoted woman' ...
Great Guy... Is ability could not match his ambition...
To be fair she was a bigot.
Well she had an opinion.. bigot or not it should not be used as a term to stifle debate...
It wasn't was it, he used it to describe her after the event..
How is that stifling debate?
Well he couldn't get back in the car quick enough. That pretty much stifled any debate with her...
He did actually talk with her at length.
He did, looked uncomfortable, then slagged her off and went back to apologize with his tail between his legs because the press outed him...
More faces than Big Ben..."
I'm repeating this since you seem to have ignored it:
He also talked with her at length after the bigot incident. And accepted the blame. And apologised.
Feels a little different to the current bunch of Tories, doesn't it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEReCN9gO14
He fucked up. He knew it. So did everybody. But he also took time to talk with her at length and apologise to her and admit he'd fucked up. Seems better than the Tories who are unwilling to accept blame for anything. |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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"A poll has labour and Tory neck and neck. I don't believe in polls but surely if it's true then what an achievement. Can't imagine any party in power doing so well during a pandemic and Brexit ... but to be honest I don't pay much attention to mid term polls.
If you don't believe in polls why say something is an achievement?
Why even post a thread on something you don't believe?
Just an observation.. a difficult time to be in power
When you so want the captaincy that you stab the previous leader in the back, effectively organise her downfall and then when you get the armband you take what is thrown at you..
Boris ducked it when Cameron walked away after the referendum as the penny dropped that all the promises he made were largely unachievable..
He cant duck this issue and it's obvious he's out of his depth so yes a tough time for any leader but having chopped many sensible Tories in his Brexit is all drive he has well and truly made his bed..
Visions of Brown v Bliar
No..
I think anyone looking at both objectively will find differences, brown as the chancellor wanted the top job as did Boris with may but brown did not openly with others plot be and vote to bring her down ..
Didnt blair promise the job to brown aswell?
Think it was another Tony ploy to delay.. .. Brown was out of his depth.. a mug.. given the top job when Bliar scarpered off the sinking shipBrown did a good job he is very underated as a PM.He also kept us out of the Euro the best thing he ever did
Well he did sell the gold off at rock bottom prices, launched the disastrous child trust funds and raided the tax relief on company pensions as well.. he also called a member of the public, 'that bigoted woman' ...
Great Guy... Is ability could not match his ambition...
To be fair she was a bigot.
Well she had an opinion.. bigot or not it should not be used as a term to stifle debate...
It wasn't was it, he used it to describe her after the event..
How is that stifling debate?
Well he couldn't get back in the car quick enough. That pretty much stifled any debate with her...
He did actually talk with her at length.
He did, looked uncomfortable, then slagged her off and went back to apologize with his tail between his legs because the press outed him...
More faces than Big Ben...
I'm repeating this since you seem to have ignored it:
He also talked with her at length after the bigot incident. And accepted the blame. And apologised.
Feels a little different to the current bunch of Tories, doesn't it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEReCN9gO14
He fucked up. He knew it. So did everybody. But he also took time to talk with her at length and apologise to her and admit he'd fucked up. Seems better than the Tories who are unwilling to accept blame for anything."
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"A poll has labour and Tory neck and neck. I don't believe in polls but surely if it's true then what an achievement. Can't imagine any party in power doing so well during a pandemic and Brexit ... but to be honest I don't pay much attention to mid term polls.
If you don't believe in polls why say something is an achievement?
Why even post a thread on something you don't believe?
Just an observation.. a difficult time to be in power
When you so want the captaincy that you stab the previous leader in the back, effectively organise her downfall and then when you get the armband you take what is thrown at you..
Boris ducked it when Cameron walked away after the referendum as the penny dropped that all the promises he made were largely unachievable..
He cant duck this issue and it's obvious he's out of his depth so yes a tough time for any leader but having chopped many sensible Tories in his Brexit is all drive he has well and truly made his bed..
Visions of Brown v Bliar
No..
I think anyone looking at both objectively will find differences, brown as the chancellor wanted the top job as did Boris with may but brown did not openly with others plot be and vote to bring her down ..
Didnt blair promise the job to brown aswell?
Think it was another Tony ploy to delay.. .. Brown was out of his depth.. a mug.. given the top job when Bliar scarpered off the sinking shipBrown did a good job he is very underated as a PM.He also kept us out of the Euro the best thing he ever did
Well he did sell the gold off at rock bottom prices, launched the disastrous child trust funds and raided the tax relief on company pensions as well.. he also called a member of the public, 'that bigoted woman' ...
Great Guy... Is ability could not match his ambition...
To be fair she was a bigot.
Well she had an opinion.. bigot or not it should not be used as a term to stifle debate...
It wasn't was it, he used it to describe her after the event..
How is that stifling debate?
Well he couldn't get back in the car quick enough. That pretty much stifled any debate with her...
He did actually talk with her at length.
He did, looked uncomfortable, then slagged her off and went back to apologize with his tail between his legs because the press outed him...
More faces than Big Ben..."
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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"A poll has labour and Tory neck and neck. I don't believe in polls but surely if it's true then what an achievement. Can't imagine any party in power doing so well during a pandemic and Brexit ... but to be honest I don't pay much attention to mid term polls.
If you don't believe in polls why say something is an achievement?
Why even post a thread on something you don't believe?
Just an observation.. a difficult time to be in power
When you so want the captaincy that you stab the previous leader in the back, effectively organise her downfall and then when you get the armband you take what is thrown at you..
Boris ducked it when Cameron walked away after the referendum as the penny dropped that all the promises he made were largely unachievable..
He cant duck this issue and it's obvious he's out of his depth so yes a tough time for any leader but having chopped many sensible Tories in his Brexit is all drive he has well and truly made his bed..
Visions of Brown v Bliar
No..
I think anyone looking at both objectively will find differences, brown as the chancellor wanted the top job as did Boris with may but brown did not openly with others plot be and vote to bring her down ..
Didnt blair promise the job to brown aswell?
Think it was another Tony ploy to delay.. .. Brown was out of his depth.. a mug.. given the top job when Bliar scarpered off the sinking shipBrown did a good job he is very underated as a PM.He also kept us out of the Euro the best thing he ever did
Well he did sell the gold off at rock bottom prices, launched the disastrous child trust funds and raided the tax relief on company pensions as well.. he also called a member of the public, 'that bigoted woman' ...
Great Guy... Is ability could not match his ambition...
To be fair she was a bigot.
Well she had an opinion.. bigot or not it should not be used as a term to stifle debate...
It wasn't was it, he used it to describe her after the event..
How is that stifling debate?
Well he couldn't get back in the car quick enough. That pretty much stifled any debate with her...
He did actually talk with her at length.
He did, looked uncomfortable, then slagged her off and went back to apologize with his tail between his legs because the press outed him...
More faces than Big Ben...
So what you are saying Is..every politician should treat its citizens with the uppermost respect?"
Lionel, feel free to interpret my words in any way you like... |
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"A poll has labour and Tory neck and neck. I don't believe in polls but surely if it's true then what an achievement. Can't imagine any party in power doing so well during a pandemic and Brexit ... but to be honest I don't pay much attention to mid term polls.
If you don't believe in polls why say something is an achievement?
Why even post a thread on something you don't believe?
Just an observation.. a difficult time to be in power
When you so want the captaincy that you stab the previous leader in the back, effectively organise her downfall and then when you get the armband you take what is thrown at you..
Boris ducked it when Cameron walked away after the referendum as the penny dropped that all the promises he made were largely unachievable..
He cant duck this issue and it's obvious he's out of his depth so yes a tough time for any leader but having chopped many sensible Tories in his Brexit is all drive he has well and truly made his bed..
Visions of Brown v Bliar
No..
I think anyone looking at both objectively will find differences, brown as the chancellor wanted the top job as did Boris with may but brown did not openly with others plot be and vote to bring her down ..
Didnt blair promise the job to brown aswell?
Think it was another Tony ploy to delay.. .. Brown was out of his depth.. a mug.. given the top job when Bliar scarpered off the sinking shipBrown did a good job he is very underated as a PM.He also kept us out of the Euro the best thing he ever did
Well he did sell the gold off at rock bottom prices, launched the disastrous child trust funds and raided the tax relief on company pensions as well.. he also called a member of the public, 'that bigoted woman' ...
Great Guy... Is ability could not match his ambition...
To be fair she was a bigot.
Well she had an opinion.. bigot or not it should not be used as a term to stifle debate...
It wasn't was it, he used it to describe her after the event..
How is that stifling debate?
Well he couldn't get back in the car quick enough. That pretty much stifled any debate with her...
He did actually talk with her at length.
He did, looked uncomfortable, then slagged her off and went back to apologize with his tail between his legs because the press outed him...
More faces than Big Ben...
So what you are saying Is..every politician should treat its citizens with the uppermost respect?
Lionel, feel free to interpret my words in any way you like... "
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"A poll has labour and Tory neck and neck. I don't believe in polls but surely if it's true then what an achievement. Can't imagine any party in power doing so well during a pandemic and Brexit ... but to be honest I don't pay much attention to mid term polls.
If you don't believe in polls why say something is an achievement?
Why even post a thread on something you don't believe?
Just an observation.. a difficult time to be in power
When you so want the captaincy that you stab the previous leader in the back, effectively organise her downfall and then when you get the armband you take what is thrown at you..
Boris ducked it when Cameron walked away after the referendum as the penny dropped that all the promises he made were largely unachievable..
He cant duck this issue and it's obvious he's out of his depth so yes a tough time for any leader but having chopped many sensible Tories in his Brexit is all drive he has well and truly made his bed..
Visions of Brown v Bliar
No..
I think anyone looking at both objectively will find differences, brown as the chancellor wanted the top job as did Boris with may but brown did not openly with others plot be and vote to bring her down ..
Didnt blair promise the job to brown aswell?
Think it was another Tony ploy to delay.. .. Brown was out of his depth.. a mug.. given the top job when Bliar scarpered off the sinking shipBrown did a good job he is very underated as a PM.He also kept us out of the Euro the best thing he ever did
Well he did sell the gold off at rock bottom prices, launched the disastrous child trust funds and raided the tax relief on company pensions as well.. he also called a member of the public, 'that bigoted woman' ...
Great Guy... Is ability could not match his ambition...
To be fair she was a bigot.
Well she had an opinion.. bigot or not it should not be used as a term to stifle debate...
It wasn't was it, he used it to describe her after the event..
How is that stifling debate?
Well he couldn't get back in the car quick enough. That pretty much stifled any debate with her...
He did actually talk with her at length.
He did, looked uncomfortable, then slagged her off and went back to apologize with his tail between his legs because the press outed him...
More faces than Big Ben...
So what you are saying Is..every politician should treat its citizens with the uppermost respect?
Lionel, feel free to interpret my words in any way you like... "
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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"A poll has labour and Tory neck and neck. I don't believe in polls but surely if it's true then what an achievement. Can't imagine any party in power doing so well during a pandemic and Brexit ... but to be honest I don't pay much attention to mid term polls.
If you don't believe in polls why say something is an achievement?
Why even post a thread on something you don't believe?
Just an observation.. a difficult time to be in power
When you so want the captaincy that you stab the previous leader in the back, effectively organise her downfall and then when you get the armband you take what is thrown at you..
Boris ducked it when Cameron walked away after the referendum as the penny dropped that all the promises he made were largely unachievable..
He cant duck this issue and it's obvious he's out of his depth so yes a tough time for any leader but having chopped many sensible Tories in his Brexit is all drive he has well and truly made his bed..
Visions of Brown v Bliar
No..
I think anyone looking at both objectively will find differences, brown as the chancellor wanted the top job as did Boris with may but brown did not openly with others plot be and vote to bring her down ..
Didnt blair promise the job to brown aswell?
Think it was another Tony ploy to delay.. .. Brown was out of his depth.. a mug.. given the top job when Bliar scarpered off the sinking shipBrown did a good job he is very underated as a PM.He also kept us out of the Euro the best thing he ever did
Well he did sell the gold off at rock bottom prices, launched the disastrous child trust funds and raided the tax relief on company pensions as well.. he also called a member of the public, 'that bigoted woman' ...
Great Guy... Is ability could not match his ambition...
To be fair she was a bigot.
Well she had an opinion.. bigot or not it should not be used as a term to stifle debate...
It wasn't was it, he used it to describe her after the event..
How is that stifling debate?
Well he couldn't get back in the car quick enough. That pretty much stifled any debate with her...
He did actually talk with her at length.
He did, looked uncomfortable, then slagged her off and went back to apologize with his tail between his legs because the press outed him...
More faces than Big Ben...
So what you are saying Is..every politician should treat its citizens with the uppermost respect?
Lionel, feel free to interpret my words in any way you like...
Tbh, Tom given your contradicting yourself it might be a better idea.. "
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"A poll has labour and Tory neck and neck. I don't believe in polls but surely if it's true then what an achievement. Can't imagine any party in power doing so well during a pandemic and Brexit ... but to be honest I don't pay much attention to mid term polls.
If you don't believe in polls why say something is an achievement?
Why even post a thread on something you don't believe?
Just an observation.. a difficult time to be in power
When you so want the captaincy that you stab the previous leader in the back, effectively organise her downfall and then when you get the armband you take what is thrown at you..
Boris ducked it when Cameron walked away after the referendum as the penny dropped that all the promises he made were largely unachievable..
He cant duck this issue and it's obvious he's out of his depth so yes a tough time for any leader but having chopped many sensible Tories in his Brexit is all drive he has well and truly made his bed..
Visions of Brown v Bliar
No..
I think anyone looking at both objectively will find differences, brown as the chancellor wanted the top job as did Boris with may but brown did not openly with others plot be and vote to bring her down ..
Didnt blair promise the job to brown aswell?
Think it was another Tony ploy to delay.. .. Brown was out of his depth.. a mug.. given the top job when Bliar scarpered off the sinking shipBrown did a good job he is very underated as a PM.He also kept us out of the Euro the best thing he ever did
Well he did sell the gold off at rock bottom prices, launched the disastrous child trust funds and raided the tax relief on company pensions as well.. he also called a member of the public, 'that bigoted woman' ...
Great Guy... Is ability could not match his ambition...
To be fair she was a bigot.
Well she had an opinion.. bigot or not it should not be used as a term to stifle debate...
It wasn't was it, he used it to describe her after the event..
How is that stifling debate?
Well he couldn't get back in the car quick enough. That pretty much stifled any debate with her...
He did actually talk with her at length.
He did, looked uncomfortable, then slagged her off and went back to apologize with his tail between his legs because the press outed him...
More faces than Big Ben...
So what you are saying Is..every politician should treat its citizens with the uppermost respect?
Lionel, feel free to interpret my words in any way you like...
Tbh, Tom given your contradicting yourself it might be a better idea..
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"A poll has labour and Tory neck and neck. I don't believe in polls but surely if it's true then what an achievement. Can't imagine any party in power doing so well during a pandemic and Brexit ... but to be honest I don't pay much attention to mid term polls.
If you don't believe in polls why say something is an achievement?
Why even post a thread on something you don't believe?
Just an observation.. a difficult time to be in power
When you so want the captaincy that you stab the previous leader in the back, effectively organise her downfall and then when you get the armband you take what is thrown at you..
Boris ducked it when Cameron walked away after the referendum as the penny dropped that all the promises he made were largely unachievable..
He cant duck this issue and it's obvious he's out of his depth so yes a tough time for any leader but having chopped many sensible Tories in his Brexit is all drive he has well and truly made his bed..
Visions of Brown v Bliar
No..
I think anyone looking at both objectively will find differences, brown as the chancellor wanted the top job as did Boris with may but brown did not openly with others plot be and vote to bring her down ..
Didnt blair promise the job to brown aswell?
Think it was another Tony ploy to delay.. .. Brown was out of his depth.. a mug.. given the top job when Bliar scarpered off the sinking shipBrown did a good job he is very underated as a PM.He also kept us out of the Euro the best thing he ever did
Well he did sell the gold off at rock bottom prices, launched the disastrous child trust funds and raided the tax relief on company pensions as well.. he also called a member of the public, 'that bigoted woman' ...
Great Guy... Is ability could not match his ambition...
To be fair she was a bigot.
Well she had an opinion.. bigot or not it should not be used as a term to stifle debate...
It wasn't was it, he used it to describe her after the event..
How is that stifling debate?
Well he couldn't get back in the car quick enough. That pretty much stifled any debate with her...
He did actually talk with her at length.
He did, looked uncomfortable, then slagged her off and went back to apologize with his tail between his legs because the press outed him...
More faces than Big Ben...
I'm repeating this since you seem to have ignored it:
He also talked with her at length after the bigot incident. And accepted the blame. And apologised.
Feels a little different to the current bunch of Tories, doesn't it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEReCN9gO14
He fucked up. He knew it. So did everybody. But he also took time to talk with her at length and apologise to her and admit he'd fucked up. Seems better than the Tories who are unwilling to accept blame for anything.
Would he have apologised if the press had not outed him.. No.. it was a damage limitation exercise ..."
Of course it was. And yet he took responsibility.
Remind me, how did Johnson and Cummings act after Cummings went on his little holiday? |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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"A poll has labour and Tory neck and neck. I don't believe in polls but surely if it's true then what an achievement. Can't imagine any party in power doing so well during a pandemic and Brexit ... but to be honest I don't pay much attention to mid term polls.
If you don't believe in polls why say something is an achievement?
Why even post a thread on something you don't believe?
Just an observation.. a difficult time to be in power
When you so want the captaincy that you stab the previous leader in the back, effectively organise her downfall and then when you get the armband you take what is thrown at you..
Boris ducked it when Cameron walked away after the referendum as the penny dropped that all the promises he made were largely unachievable..
He cant duck this issue and it's obvious he's out of his depth so yes a tough time for any leader but having chopped many sensible Tories in his Brexit is all drive he has well and truly made his bed..
Visions of Brown v Bliar
No..
I think anyone looking at both objectively will find differences, brown as the chancellor wanted the top job as did Boris with may but brown did not openly with others plot be and vote to bring her down ..
Didnt blair promise the job to brown aswell?
Think it was another Tony ploy to delay.. .. Brown was out of his depth.. a mug.. given the top job when Bliar scarpered off the sinking shipBrown did a good job he is very underated as a PM.He also kept us out of the Euro the best thing he ever did
Well he did sell the gold off at rock bottom prices, launched the disastrous child trust funds and raided the tax relief on company pensions as well.. he also called a member of the public, 'that bigoted woman' ...
Great Guy... Is ability could not match his ambition...
To be fair she was a bigot.
Well she had an opinion.. bigot or not it should not be used as a term to stifle debate...
It wasn't was it, he used it to describe her after the event..
How is that stifling debate?
Well he couldn't get back in the car quick enough. That pretty much stifled any debate with her...
He did actually talk with her at length.
He did, looked uncomfortable, then slagged her off and went back to apologize with his tail between his legs because the press outed him...
More faces than Big Ben...
I'm repeating this since you seem to have ignored it:
He also talked with her at length after the bigot incident. And accepted the blame. And apologised.
Feels a little different to the current bunch of Tories, doesn't it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEReCN9gO14
He fucked up. He knew it. So did everybody. But he also took time to talk with her at length and apologise to her and admit he'd fucked up. Seems better than the Tories who are unwilling to accept blame for anything.
Would he have apologised if the press had not outed him.. No.. it was a damage limitation exercise ...
Of course it was. And yet he took responsibility.
Remind me, how did Johnson and Cummings act after Cummings went on his little holiday?"
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"A poll has labour and Tory neck and neck. I don't believe in polls but surely if it's true then what an achievement. Can't imagine any party in power doing so well during a pandemic and Brexit ... but to be honest I don't pay much attention to mid term polls.
Another poll has the Conservatives ahead of Labour. given everything that is going on, only 2 points lower than they were prior to the GE seems quite reasonable.
And in another poll the Greens have overtaken the LibDems as the third largest U.K. party.
The SNP are the UK's third largest party.
The YouGov voter intention poll indicated Greens had overtaken LibDems to third place with 6%. (libdems on 5% along with SNP on 5%)"
Which means precisely fuck all in comparison to seats in Parliament - even the one we're not that keen on. LOL |
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"A poll has labour and Tory neck and neck. I don't believe in polls but surely if it's true then what an achievement. Can't imagine any party in power doing so well during a pandemic and Brexit ... but to be honest I don't pay much attention to mid term polls.
Another poll has the Conservatives ahead of Labour. given everything that is going on, only 2 points lower than they were prior to the GE seems quite reasonable.
And in another poll the Greens have overtaken the LibDems as the third largest U.K. party.
The SNP are the UK's third largest party.
The YouGov voter intention poll indicated Greens had overtaken LibDems to third place with 6%. (libdems on 5% along with SNP on 5%)
Which means precisely fuck all in comparison to seats in Parliament - even the one we're not that keen on. LOL"
The thread is about polls
My post is about a poll
You are talking about elected MPs
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"A poll has labour and Tory neck and neck. I don't believe in polls but surely if it's true then what an achievement. Can't imagine any party in power doing so well during a pandemic and Brexit ... but to be honest I don't pay much attention to mid term polls.
If you don't believe in polls why say something is an achievement?
Why even post a thread on something you don't believe?
Just an observation.. a difficult time to be in power
When you so want the captaincy that you stab the previous leader in the back, effectively organise her downfall and then when you get the armband you take what is thrown at you..
Boris ducked it when Cameron walked away after the referendum as the penny dropped that all the promises he made were largely unachievable..
He cant duck this issue and it's obvious he's out of his depth so yes a tough time for any leader but having chopped many sensible Tories in his Brexit is all drive he has well and truly made his bed..
Visions of Brown v Bliar
No..
I think anyone looking at both objectively will find differences, brown as the chancellor wanted the top job as did Boris with may but brown did not openly with others plot be and vote to bring her down ..
Didnt blair promise the job to brown aswell?
Think it was another Tony ploy to delay.. .. Brown was out of his depth.. a mug.. given the top job when Bliar scarpered off the sinking shipBrown did a good job he is very underated as a PM.He also kept us out of the Euro the best thing he ever did
Well he did sell the gold off at rock bottom prices, launched the disastrous child trust funds and raided the tax relief on company pensions as well.. he also called a member of the public, 'that bigoted woman' ...
Great Guy... Is ability could not match his ambition...
To be fair she was a bigot.
Well she had an opinion.. bigot or not it should not be used as a term to stifle debate...
It wasn't was it, he used it to describe her after the event..
How is that stifling debate?
Well he couldn't get back in the car quick enough. That pretty much stifled any debate with her...
He did actually talk with her at length.
He did, looked uncomfortable, then slagged her off and went back to apologize with his tail between his legs because the press outed him...
More faces than Big Ben...
I'm repeating this since you seem to have ignored it:
He also talked with her at length after the bigot incident. And accepted the blame. And apologised.
Feels a little different to the current bunch of Tories, doesn't it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEReCN9gO14
He fucked up. He knew it. So did everybody. But he also took time to talk with her at length and apologise to her and admit he'd fucked up. Seems better than the Tories who are unwilling to accept blame for anything.
Would he have apologised if the press had not outed him.. No.. it was a damage limitation exercise ...
Of course it was. And yet he took responsibility.
Remind me, how did Johnson and Cummings act after Cummings went on his little holiday?
And this is relevant why ?"
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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"A poll has labour and Tory neck and neck. I don't believe in polls but surely if it's true then what an achievement. Can't imagine any party in power doing so well during a pandemic and Brexit ... but to be honest I don't pay much attention to mid term polls.
Another poll has the Conservatives ahead of Labour. given everything that is going on, only 2 points lower than they were prior to the GE seems quite reasonable.
And in another poll the Greens have overtaken the LibDems as the third largest U.K. party.
The SNP are the UK's third largest party.
The YouGov voter intention poll indicated Greens had overtaken LibDems to third place with 6%. (libdems on 5% along with SNP on 5%)
Which means precisely fuck all in comparison to seats in Parliament - even the one we're not that keen on. LOL
The thread is about polls
My post is about a poll
You are talking about elected MPs
"
The thread is actually about a party in power at a difficult time... Sadly it has been hijacked by those who cannot see past their own party allegiance... |
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"A poll has labour and Tory neck and neck. I don't believe in polls but surely if it's true then what an achievement. Can't imagine any party in power doing so well during a pandemic and Brexit ... but to be honest I don't pay much attention to mid term polls.
Another poll has the Conservatives ahead of Labour. given everything that is going on, only 2 points lower than they were prior to the GE seems quite reasonable.
And in another poll the Greens have overtaken the LibDems as the third largest U.K. party.
The SNP are the UK's third largest party.
The YouGov voter intention poll indicated Greens had overtaken LibDems to third place with 6%. (libdems on 5% along with SNP on 5%)
Which means precisely fuck all in comparison to seats in Parliament - even the one we're not that keen on. LOL
The thread is about polls
My post is about a poll
You are talking about elected MPs
The thread is actually about a party in power at a difficult time... Sadly it has been hijacked by those who cannot see past their own party allegiance..."
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"A poll has labour and Tory neck and neck. I don't believe in polls but surely if it's true then what an achievement. Can't imagine any party in power doing so well during a pandemic and Brexit ... but to be honest I don't pay much attention to mid term polls.
Another poll has the Conservatives ahead of Labour. given everything that is going on, only 2 points lower than they were prior to the GE seems quite reasonable.
And in another poll the Greens have overtaken the LibDems as the third largest U.K. party.
The SNP are the UK's third largest party.
The YouGov voter intention poll indicated Greens had overtaken LibDems to third place with 6%. (libdems on 5% along with SNP on 5%)
Which means precisely fuck all in comparison to seats in Parliament - even the one we're not that keen on. LOL
The thread is about polls
My post is about a poll
You are talking about elected MPs
The thread is actually about a party in power at a difficult time... Sadly it has been hijacked by those who cannot see past their own party allegiance...
Your thread is about the polls "
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"A poll has labour and Tory neck and neck. I don't believe in polls but surely if it's true then what an achievement. Can't imagine any party in power doing so well during a pandemic and Brexit ... but to be honest I don't pay much attention to mid term polls.
Another poll has the Conservatives ahead of Labour. given everything that is going on, only 2 points lower than they were prior to the GE seems quite reasonable.
And in another poll the Greens have overtaken the LibDems as the third largest U.K. party.
The SNP are the UK's third largest party.
The YouGov voter intention poll indicated Greens had overtaken LibDems to third place with 6%. (libdems on 5% along with SNP on 5%)
Which means precisely fuck all in comparison to seats in Parliament - even the one we're not that keen on. LOL
The thread is about polls
My post is about a poll
You are talking about elected MPs
The thread is actually about a party in power at a difficult time... Sadly it has been hijacked by those who cannot see past their own party allegiance...
Your thread is about the polls
It really isn't Lionel.. that's your interpretation... "
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"A poll has labour and Tory neck and neck. I don't believe in polls but surely if it's true then what an achievement. Can't imagine any party in power doing so well during a pandemic and Brexit ... but to be honest I don't pay much attention to mid term polls.
Another poll has the Conservatives ahead of Labour. given everything that is going on, only 2 points lower than they were prior to the GE seems quite reasonable.
And in another poll the Greens have overtaken the LibDems as the third largest U.K. party.
The SNP are the UK's third largest party.
The YouGov voter intention poll indicated Greens had overtaken LibDems to third place with 6%. (libdems on 5% along with SNP on 5%)
Which means precisely fuck all in comparison to seats in Parliament - even the one we're not that keen on. LOL
The thread is about polls
My post is about a poll
You are talking about elected MPs
The thread is actually about a party in power at a difficult time... Sadly it has been hijacked by those who cannot see past their own party allegiance...
Your thread is about the polls
It really isn't Lionel.. that's your interpretation...
Good point.my mistake.you only mention the word poll about 4 times in your op."
Read again... If I say 'but' in a paragraph ten times is the paragraph about 'but'?
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"A poll has labour and Tory neck and neck. I don't believe in polls but surely if it's true then what an achievement. Can't imagine any party in power doing so well during a pandemic and Brexit ... but to be honest I don't pay much attention to mid term polls.
Another poll has the Conservatives ahead of Labour. given everything that is going on, only 2 points lower than they were prior to the GE seems quite reasonable.
And in another poll the Greens have overtaken the LibDems as the third largest U.K. party.
The SNP are the UK's third largest party.
The YouGov voter intention poll indicated Greens had overtaken LibDems to third place with 6%. (libdems on 5% along with SNP on 5%)
Which means precisely fuck all in comparison to seats in Parliament - even the one we're not that keen on. LOL
The thread is about polls
My post is about a poll
You are talking about elected MPs
The thread is actually about a party in power at a difficult time... Sadly it has been hijacked by those who cannot see past their own party allegiance...
Your thread is about the polls
It really isn't Lionel.. that's your interpretation...
Good point.my mistake.you only mention the word poll about 4 times in your op.
Read again... If I say 'but' in a paragraph ten times is the paragraph about 'but'?
Note the question mark Lionel"
Touche.
The op was surely about how well your heroes our doing in the middle of this crises 'according to the polls'? |
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"A poll has labour and Tory neck and neck. I don't believe in polls but surely if it's true then what an achievement. Can't imagine any party in power doing so well during a pandemic and Brexit ... but to be honest I don't pay much attention to mid term polls.
If you don't believe in polls why say something is an achievement?
Why even post a thread on something you don't believe?
Just an observation.. a difficult time to be in power
When you so want the captaincy that you stab the previous leader in the back, effectively organise her downfall and then when you get the armband you take what is thrown at you..
Boris ducked it when Cameron walked away after the referendum as the penny dropped that all the promises he made were largely unachievable..
He cant duck this issue and it's obvious he's out of his depth so yes a tough time for any leader but having chopped many sensible Tories in his Brexit is all drive he has well and truly made his bed..
Visions of Brown v Bliar
No..
I think anyone looking at both objectively will find differences, brown as the chancellor wanted the top job as did Boris with may but brown did not openly with others plot be and vote to bring her down ..
Didnt blair promise the job to brown aswell?
Think it was another Tony ploy to delay.. .. Brown was out of his depth.. a mug.. given the top job when Bliar scarpered off the sinking shipBrown did a good job he is very underated as a PM.He also kept us out of the Euro the best thing he ever did
Well he did sell the gold off at rock bottom prices, launched the disastrous child trust funds and raided the tax relief on company pensions as well.. he also called a member of the public, 'that bigoted woman' ...
Great Guy... Is ability could not match his ambition...
To be fair she was a bigot.
Well she had an opinion.. bigot or not it should not be used as a term to stifle debate...
It wasn't was it, he used it to describe her after the event..
How is that stifling debate?
Well he couldn't get back in the car quick enough. That pretty much stifled any debate with her...
He did actually talk with her at length.
He did, looked uncomfortable, then slagged her off and went back to apologize with his tail between his legs because the press outed him...
More faces than Big Ben...
I'm repeating this since you seem to have ignored it:
He also talked with her at length after the bigot incident. And accepted the blame. And apologised.
Feels a little different to the current bunch of Tories, doesn't it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEReCN9gO14
He fucked up. He knew it. So did everybody. But he also took time to talk with her at length and apologise to her and admit he'd fucked up. Seems better than the Tories who are unwilling to accept blame for anything.
Would he have apologised if the press had not outed him.. No.. it was a damage limitation exercise ...
Of course it was. And yet he took responsibility.
Remind me, how did Johnson and Cummings act after Cummings went on his little holiday?
And this is relevant why ?"
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"A poll has labour and Tory neck and neck. I don't believe in polls but surely if it's true then what an achievement. Can't imagine any party in power doing so well during a pandemic and Brexit ... but to be honest I don't pay much attention to mid term polls.
Another poll has the Conservatives ahead of Labour. given everything that is going on, only 2 points lower than they were prior to the GE seems quite reasonable.
And in another poll the Greens have overtaken the LibDems as the third largest U.K. party.
The SNP are the UK's third largest party.
The YouGov voter intention poll indicated Greens had overtaken LibDems to third place with 6%. (libdems on 5% along with SNP on 5%)
Which means precisely fuck all in comparison to seats in Parliament - even the one we're not that keen on. LOL
The thread is about polls
My post is about a poll
You are talking about elected MPs
The thread is actually about a party in power at a difficult time... Sadly it has been hijacked by those who cannot see past their own party allegiance...
Your thread is about the polls
It really isn't Lionel.. that's your interpretation...
Good point.my mistake.you only mention the word poll about 4 times in your op.
Read again... If I say 'but' in a paragraph ten times is the paragraph about 'but'?
Note the question mark Lionel
Touche.
The op was surely about how well your heroes our doing in the middle of this crises 'according to the polls'?"
Lionel. I have only voted in a General Election once in my life. My only heroes,apart from immediate family were Glen Hoddle, Diego Maradonna and Gareth Edwards.
The thread is about my observation that how a government, any government, during Brexit and a pandemic can stay relatively popular...
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