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If Trump loses, what will he do?
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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At this point, Trump's surely likely to lose. What will he do then?
Will he actually concede and leave?
Will he try and mire the election in the courts, in the hope of getting a decision to go his way there instead?
Will he flat out refuse to leave?
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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago
Manchester |
I’m not convinced he’s going to lose.
If the Democrats had put forward a better candidate then game over but Biden is a very old guy and I think Americans are nervous not of his views but being lead by such a frail looking president.
I think Trump will claim fraud and violence will happen in the right wing states but hopefully the leading politicians on both sides will realise how bad a fight will be for the nation, so will not let it happen. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I don't think Trump will lose.
I don't see any reason why someone who voted for him last time, would vote for him again.
There's a lot of buster in the media about what he'll do. I suspect he will just leave, but be very angry, confused and insecure about it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Unfortunately the world has become about ‘sides’ more than people thinking logically. Every election in every country you get people voting against their best interests because they’ve picked a side and won’t change.
That’s partly down to stupidity and partly down to how easy it now is to seek out like minded people by whom we can have our views confirmed.
Unfortunately this can often lead to people taking more extreme positions because they make the assumption that the ‘evidence’ they find is true. We only need to look at the rise of anti-vaxxers and QAnon nuts to see where that leads.
Sadly it’s often more important to people to ‘be right’ than it is to get to the right answer these days. |
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"If trump loses... Biden takes over for a few months, health goes downhill, replaced by Harris.... USA becomes a communist hell hole. "
Yep because if there is 1 word which I associate with america its communism. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"If trump loses... Biden takes over for a few months, health goes downhill, replaced by Harris.... USA becomes a communist hell hole. "
Trump is probably the most unfit president we’ll ever see. Joe is in far better health. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"If trump loses... Biden takes over for a few months, health goes downhill, replaced by Harris.... USA becomes a communist hell hole.
Yep because if there is 1 word which I associate with america its communism."
Don’t feed the troll. |
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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago
Derry |
Trump and Barr will likely take it to the courts to stop Biden winning 270 votes in the electoral college, the next step in their plan would be a contingent election. Briefly this means the president and vice president would be voted by the House of Representatives (congress) and The Senate. |
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By *estivalMan
over a year ago
borehamwood |
who knows and who cares.im judt enjoying watching the reality show that is the u.s.a. dont think it atters who wins.trump = more of the same for another 4 years. biden winning means harris becomes president in the middle of next year |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Looking at a Harris Wikipedia she looks formidable ! "
Sadly, she also comes with some serious baggage from her past as a prosecutor. When Tulsi Gabbard brought it up, it ended her bid to be President. |
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By *estivalMan
over a year ago
borehamwood |
"Looking at a Harris Wikipedia she looks formidable !
Sadly, she also comes with some serious baggage from her past as a prosecutor. When Tulsi Gabbard brought it up, it ended her bid to be President."
serious baggage lol just a bit.keeping people in prison when new evidence came to light that would of freed them.locking up thousands for a bit of are just a couple of bits of baggage theres a lot more than that.problem with biden and her is there in the pockets of the banks and buisness.every one thought bernie was the changed that was needed turns out he is no different to any of the others.bit like our politics really no matter who wins then man in the street gets fucked over either way |
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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago
Derry |
"Can't see trump winning especially after the tax returns story. Think that's the back of him but never say never."
It's not beyond the realm of possibility to think Trump will abuse his office. He might not win the election but he could stop Biden from winning sufficient electoral college votes to be be declared winner. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Can't see trump winning especially after the tax returns story. Think that's the back of him but never say never.
It's not beyond the realm of possibility to think Trump will abuse his office. He might not win the election but he could stop Biden from winning sufficient electoral college votes to be be declared winner."
I think, if it goes on numbers, Trump will simply lose.
But he seeems to be trying to nobble the postal votes. And he's been talking up how corrupt and unfair this election is. Paving the way for taking this all to court. And the Republicans have control there... |
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He's not confirmed he will go peacefully and has also been pushing the scare stories of voter fraud, which seems a foundation for claiming later that it's a wrong result.
He will bluster and be obstructive, as he likes to be. I could imagine him refusing to go, whilst reviews are carried out until the January changeover |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The more intriguing question is what happens if Covid knocks Trump off his feet - who would replace him on the republican side? Mike Pence is not presidential material and I doubt they will be able to keep it within the Trump family , so perhaps Kanye will be put up for it.....after all, he is just a bit bi-polar unlike the psychopathic Don ?? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Trump will win ...
The devil you know ,is better than the one you dont...
Bidons past is not squeaky clean either"
Their both horrible people. One has better policies than the other.
But sadly I agree. I can't see anyone who voted for Trump last time, changing their mind. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I saw trump debate with Biden, it was pathetic, and childish. How did this man ever become president? It was just the juvenile trump shouting his mouth off with no substance. Surely the Americans will come to their senses and send him back to reality TV. Unbelievable and so rude and boorish, what a child. Biden can't be any worse, surely. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"I saw trump debate with Biden, it was pathetic, and childish. How did this man ever become president? It was just the juvenile trump shouting his mouth off with no substance. Surely the Americans will come to their senses and send him back to reality TV. Unbelievable and so rude and boorish, what a child. Biden can't be any worse, surely. "
because for some reason she was seen as the worst of two options.....
he was the outsider and she was sean as the status quo!!!
this time he is the "incumbant" but he is still trying to pretend he is the outsider to which people ask "well what have you done over the last 4 other than to try and destroy the legacy of your predecessor?
what will happen if trump loses.... honestly...
first of all... he will never concede (but that might be taken out of his hands!) if it is close enough in certain states he will try and get mail in ballots thrown out! and try to cling on...
if its a big margin.... i think he tries to flees the country! |
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By *exy7Man
over a year ago
Bristol |
If he loses, they should send him to North Korea. He’ll be able to experience what communism really is as opposed to what Biden says.
We should also send our tories there too when they tell us that Corbyn or the Labour party are hard left or marxist in order to scare the sheep. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Trump will bounce back hugely now thanks to his time in hospital- he is now saying that he thinks he’s immune - he will now campaign on a huge wave of messiah- like worship. He will say to his followers Look at me I conquered covid !!!
If I was Biden I would be worried now - I can see Trump getting a second term then saying to Mike Pence thanks for everything but bugger off I’m going to keep it in the family and then he announces Ivanka as VP |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Trump will bounce back hugely now thanks to his time in hospital- he is now saying that he thinks he’s immune - he will now campaign on a huge wave of messiah- like worship. He will say to his followers Look at me I conquered covid !!!
If I was Biden I would be worried now - I can see Trump getting a second term then saying to Mike Pence thanks for everything but bugger off I’m going to keep it in the family and then he announces Ivanka as VP "
That all sounds perfectly plausible - as long as he gets past the tenth day of Covid without any other ill effects!
Emperor Don and his Trumpettes? The end of democracy in the USA? I imagine that nothing is really impossible or off the table in Trump’s world - a modern day nero! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"At this point, Trump's surely likely to lose. What will he do then?
Will he actually concede and leave?
Will he try and mire the election in the courts, in the hope of getting a decision to go his way there instead?
Will he flat out refuse to leave?
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My favourite laconic phrase works perfectly with the topic title.
‘If’
IF he does lose I don’t think he’ll concede. He’s convinced of the righteousness of his mission to ‘drain the swamp’ and will see it as an establishment plot to eliminate him. But ‘if’ is a big word in this context. I’m not convinced he will lose. Academic Agent has an excellent video on his channel currently about why you should take the opinion polls with a pinch of salt. Recommended viewing. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Try not to cry too much when he wins.
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I think he will win too. I can't see how many people will have changed their minds, and I don't think that Biden is energising the youth to vote.
Should he lose, I assume he will spend the rest of his life fighting the numerous charges he will be facing.
https://theintercept.com/2020/10/18/trump-election-crimes-prosecution/
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Try not to cry too much when he wins.
I think he will win too. I can't see how many people will have changed their minds, and I don't think that Biden is energising the youth to vote.
Should he lose, I assume he will spend the rest of his life fighting the numerous charges he will be facing.
https://theintercept.com/2020/10/18/trump-election-crimes-prosecution/
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Agreed. The last 5 years have turned me from a positive realist into a cynic.
I have a feeling Trump will win, very few polls are reliable in the states and fuck knows both sides are playing misinformation games - predominantly Trump.
If enough young people are energised to be practical and vote Biden, then trump will likely loose, but I've lost faith in the practicality of Student politics. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The only leading politician I've seen saying that anybody but in this case biden should not concede no matter what result happens is Hillary Clinton."
Can you rephrase this? |
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It's looking like a good turn out of the vote so far (watching the early voting numbers).
Which, historically, has leaned towards a Democrat victory. So I am hopeful he is on the way out, but there's a long way to go before that fat lady is singing... |
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By *ogJamMan
over a year ago
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"i think he will lose.
simple as that"
I wouldn't be so sure right now it will be close and could go one way or another. Another round of wide spread riots or a high turn out to vote could swing it either way.
you also have to factor in its 2 white privileged old men there and people do i want to go out to vote and risk caching covid at the Poling stations for either of them old farts. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"i think he will lose.
simple as that
I wouldn't be so sure right now it will be close and could go one way or another. Another round of wide spread riots or a high turn out to vote could swing it either way.
you also have to factor in its 2 white privileged old men there and people do i want to go out to vote and risk caching covid at the Poling stations for either of them old farts. "
From the huge crowds seen turning out for in person voting already, I'm not sure that that's really going to be a problem.
It's true that polling is very tight in the swing states though, so it would be foolish to write off Trump altogether. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The only leading politician I've seen saying that anybody but in this case biden should not concede no matter what result happens is Hillary Clinton.
Can you rephrase this?"
She's the only high profile politican I've seen that's quite clearly and openly said biden shouldn't concede under any circumstances, I've not seen anybody else do it for either party. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The only leading politician I've seen saying that anybody but in this case biden should not concede no matter what result happens is Hillary Clinton.
Can you rephrase this?
She's the only high profile politican I've seen that's quite clearly and openly said biden shouldn't concede under any circumstances, I've not seen anybody else do it for either party."
Gotya.
I haven't seen anyone say Trump shouldn't concede if he loses. But he did refuse to clarify numerous times when asked.
This thread is just about speculating what he might do. I suspect that even he doesn't know yet. |
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Some Republican controlled state legislatures are openly discussing ignore the results of the vote if it goes against them and decraing for Trump anyway, as apparently there is nothing in the constitution to say they can't. My prediction is that if the vote is in any way close, shitler will refuse to leave office, at that point it will come down to the Republican party, if they support his actions, and given thier recent history there's nothing to suggest that they won't, things will get very bleak indeed |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"Some Republican controlled state legislatures are openly discussing ignore the results of the vote if it goes against them and decraing for Trump anyway, as apparently there is nothing in the constitution to say they can't. My prediction is that if the vote is in any way close, shitler will refuse to leave office, at that point it will come down to the Republican party, if they support his actions, and given thier recent history there's nothing to suggest that they won't, things will get very bleak indeed "
the "theory" was to try and drag out any litigation till january 9th and try to ram that thru republican state "houses" when the "electors" have to give their votes... it can't happen in pennsylvania, wisconsin or michigan because they all have democratic governors that would stop that from happening...
but yes.... you can see trump trting to claim victory if it close...
but the more i think about it... if it gets to the stage where he sees the writing on the wall, he will either try to self pardon, or use the pardon power as a negoiation tool to leave, or flee the country.... i honestly still think he will! |
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"The chinese wanted biden and clinton in keep following the proper news
Says who exactly?
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I'm sure I saw Mr Xi Jinping Tweet that at some point...
The fact that Trump has bank accounts there, business deals, and it's Ivanka that had a number of trademark requests fast tracked can obviously be overlooked for the sack of some wild made up claim about Biden. |
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Once Trump loses the presidency and still wanting to be the centre of attention, he will form Trump TV, charge $6.99 a month and make over a billion $ a year from his loyal followers who'll lap up his vile thoughts and conspiracy theories.
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"Once Trump loses the presidency and still wanting to be the centre of attention, he will form Trump TV, charge $6.99 a month and make over a billion $ a year from his loyal followers who'll lap up his vile thoughts and conspiracy theories.
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I think that will genuinely happen |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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He could do a Tommy Robinson. He could end up making a career out of bitching and whining about how awfully he's being treated all the time. And his followers would fund him the whole way on his merry, meandering misadventures. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"He could do a Tommy Robinson. He could end up making a career out of bitching and whining about how awfully he's being treated all the time. And his followers would fund him the whole way on his merry, meandering misadventures."
So no change from what he's doing now? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"He could do a Tommy Robinson. He could end up making a career out of bitching and whining about how awfully he's being treated all the time. And his followers would fund him the whole way on his merry, meandering misadventures.
So no change from what he's doing now?"
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"Once Trump loses the presidency and still wanting to be the centre of attention, he will form Trump TV, charge $6.99 a month and make over a billion $ a year from his loyal followers who'll lap up his vile thoughts and conspiracy theories.
I think that will genuinely happen"
He doesn’t need to... he will just buy OAN and rebrand as a further to the right alternative to Fox News...
But I still think he flees the country... he will be the idol in exile |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"At this point, Trump's surely likely to lose. What will he do then?
Will he actually concede and leave?
Will he try and mire the election in the courts, in the hope of getting a decision to go his way there instead?
Will he flat out refuse to leave?
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If Trump loses he'll probably hold a press conference stating his love of the American people in giving him their confidence in him as President for his second term.
Then months of court actions.
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