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"Prediction for election 2024. Owing to how the goverment has performed over covid not to brexit over recent years. Tories may still have the most mps however not enough overall to form a goverment in which case we see the resignation of Boris and Kier Starmer becomes new pm under a coalition goverment. " Boris will resign a long time before 2024, I think he will go next year | |||
"Prediction for election 2024. Owing to how the goverment has performed over covid not to brexit over recent years. Tories may still have the most mps however not enough overall to form a goverment in which case we see the resignation of Boris and Kier Starmer becomes new pm under a coalition goverment. " KS is or at least so far appears a very able leader. Taking parts of his party with him will be a challenge. Whether he ends up against Boris or a replacement he will be in a strong position to win and maybe have a majority. If he does not win with all the advantages I'm not sure when they ever will | |||
"Prediction for election 2024. Owing to how the goverment has performed over covid not to brexit over recent years. Tories may still have the most mps however not enough overall to form a goverment in which case we see the resignation of Boris and Kier Starmer becomes new pm under a coalition goverment. KS is or at least so far appears a very able leader. Taking parts of his party with him will be a challenge. Whether he ends up against Boris or a replacement he will be in a strong position to win and maybe have a majority. If he does not win with all the advantages I'm not sure when they ever will" | |||
"Prediction for election 2024. Owing to how the goverment has performed over covid not to brexit over recent years. Tories may still have the most mps however not enough overall to form a goverment in which case we see the resignation of Boris and Kier Starmer becomes new pm under a coalition goverment. KS is or at least so far appears a very able leader. Taking parts of his party with him will be a challenge. Whether he ends up against Boris or a replacement he will be in a strong position to win and maybe have a majority. If he does not win with all the advantages I'm not sure when they ever will" saddly to many in the labour party are far to interested in fighting old internal fights over who are the twu socialists to unite and fight to get rid of this god awful shower in charge and untill they realise this we will continue with what we have a one party dictatorship that is entrenching it self deeper and deeper | |||
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"Four years is a long time in politics" So is one year. The muppet has only been in charge for a year and it feels like he’s been around for five. | |||
"If only... but don’t forget the Tory press will demonise him, depict him as a communist, as an unpatriotic traitor etc... And the oysters which seem to reproduce quicker than any species nowadays will probably vote for the world beaten clowns again." I don't think they will. He is less likely to rock the boat like his predecessor | |||
"Four years is a long time in politics So is one year. The muppet has only been in charge for a year and it feels like he’s been around for five. " Lol it has been a long year indeed. No excuses for not winning the next GE especially with KS in charge | |||
"If only... but don’t forget the Tory press will demonise him, depict him as a communist, as an unpatriotic traitor etc... And the oysters which seem to reproduce quicker than any species nowadays will probably vote for the world beaten clowns again. I don't think they will. He is less likely to rock the boat like his predecessor " its already started with bojos IRA sympathiser jibes in pmqs sign they are desperate again cant play the ball play the man will be abley backed up by their friends in the msm | |||
"If only... but don’t forget the Tory press will demonise him, depict him as a communist, as an unpatriotic traitor etc... And the oysters which seem to reproduce quicker than any species nowadays will probably vote for the world beaten clowns again. I don't think they will. He is less likely to rock the boat like his predecessor its already started with bojos IRA sympathiser jibes in pmqs sign they are desperate again cant play the ball play the man will be abley backed up by their friends in the msm " He wont get no where near the level of abuse corbyn got. Absolutely nap. | |||
"If only... but don’t forget the Tory press will demonise him, depict him as a communist, as an unpatriotic traitor etc... And the oysters which seem to reproduce quicker than any species nowadays will probably vote for the world beaten clowns again. I don't think they will. He is less likely to rock the boat like his predecessor its already started with bojos IRA sympathiser jibes in pmqs sign they are desperate again cant play the ball play the man will be abley backed up by their friends in the msm He wont get no where near the level of abuse corbyn got. Absolutely nap." don't you believe it at the first sign of him getting ahead they will wheel out the "failed to prosecute Jimmy Saville" bollox and the populace will fall for it | |||
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"Four years is a long time in politics" yes it is. The damage this this bunch of charlatans is doing to the country will take a generation to fix. | |||
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"Four years is a long time in politics So is one year. The muppet has only been in charge for a year and it feels like he’s been around for five. " It's not even been 10 full months! | |||
"Four years is a long time in politics yes it is. The damage this this bunch of charlatans is doing to the country will take a generation to fix. " Will never be fixed if labour get in | |||
"Four years is a long time in politics yes it is. The damage this this bunch of charlatans is doing to the country will take a generation to fix. Will never be fixed if labour get in" Can you really not see the huge damage the Tories have done to this country and are continuing to do? Really? | |||
"Four years is a long time in politics yes it is. The damage this this bunch of charlatans is doing to the country will take a generation to fix. Will never be fixed if labour get in" Well at least you are admitting that this bunch or charlatans are causing damage.... I really don't understand people like you. We have a PM who is a proven liar. He really doesn't give a damn about you. He wanted to be PM for the status. He misses cobra meetings. He is lazy. But all you can do is attack the labour party and, as I have seen before, KS. A man who the Tories are desperately trying to dig up some dirt on. The best they seem to be able to do is associate him with Corbyn and therefore the IRA. Pathetic creatures and you just don't see it. | |||
"Four years is a long time in politics yes it is. The damage this this bunch of charlatans is doing to the country will take a generation to fix. Will never be fixed if labour get in Well at least you are admitting that this bunch or charlatans are causing damage.... I really don't understand people like you. We have a PM who is a proven liar. He really doesn't give a damn about you. He wanted to be PM for the status. He misses cobra meetings. He is lazy. But all you can do is attack the labour party and, as I have seen before, KS. A man who the Tories are desperately trying to dig up some dirt on. The best they seem to be able to do is associate him with Corbyn and therefore the IRA. Pathetic creatures and you just don't see it." The composition of a ministerial-level meeting in COBR depends on the nature of the incident but it is usually chaired by the Prime Minister OR Another Senior Minister, with other key ministers as appropriate, city mayors and representatives of relevant external organisations such as the National Police Chiefs' Council and the Local Government Association. | |||
"Four years is a long time in politics yes it is. The damage this this bunch of charlatans is doing to the country will take a generation to fix. Will never be fixed if labour get in" In your weak attempt to mud-sling, is that an admission that the Tories have caused damage due to their governance? There's a lesson to be learned here: Wisdom is knowing when to shut up!  | |||
"Four years is a long time in politics yes it is. The damage this this bunch of charlatans is doing to the country will take a generation to fix. Will never be fixed if labour get in Well at least you are admitting that this bunch or charlatans are causing damage.... I really don't understand people like you. We have a PM who is a proven liar. He really doesn't give a damn about you. He wanted to be PM for the status. He misses cobra meetings. He is lazy. But all you can do is attack the labour party and, as I have seen before, KS. A man who the Tories are desperately trying to dig up some dirt on. The best they seem to be able to do is associate him with Corbyn and therefore the IRA. Pathetic creatures and you just don't see it. The composition of a ministerial-level meeting in COBR depends on the nature of the incident but it is usually chaired by the Prime Minister OR Another Senior Minister, with other key ministers as appropriate, city mayors and representatives of relevant external organisations such as the National Police Chiefs' Council and the Local Government Association." I'd say a worldwide pandemic was quite important. He missed about 4 didn't he? | |||
"Four years is a long time in politics yes it is. The damage this this bunch of charlatans is doing to the country will take a generation to fix. Will never be fixed if labour get in" Who would you recomend to fix it . Given that Boris and chums are destroying the country’s reputation by the day and refusing to address the constant lies of the cabinet you’re not saying Boris &Co. I’m not a Labour supporter per se but fuck me this shower would make me vote for the local primary school debating team over them! This government is absolutely atrocious and totally unfit on their moral stand points. | |||
"Four years is a long time in politics yes it is. The damage this this bunch of charlatans is doing to the country will take a generation to fix. Will never be fixed if labour get in Who would you recomend to fix it . Given that Boris and chums are destroying the country’s reputation by the day and refusing to address the constant lies of the cabinet you’re not saying Boris &Co. I’m not a Labour supporter per se but fuck me this shower would make me vote for the local primary school debating team over them! This government is absolutely atrocious and totally unfit on their moral stand points. " An over riding majority of people voted for the most inept pm and gmnt in living memory. Think there is a messege there somewhere. | |||
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"42% of the UK voted conservative and in Scotland only 25%" Proportional representation looks more attractive every day! | |||
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"Johnson has more than enough time for a 'Falklands moment'. People were daft enough to vote for him once, I honestly believe they could do so again. Yes, it would be much more difficult because of the government's handling of the pandemic and their approach to brexit post-election. There'll also be one hell of a day of reckoning when the economic cost of the pandemic, on top of our departure for leaving the EU, becomes clear. And yet, I honestly would not be surprised if Johnson won another election. In the next few years even more people will be considerably more desperate for a scapegoat than they are now and were. And if people were daft enough to believe the pathological liar over his so-called 'oven ready' deal, god only knows what else people would believe if he pushed it hard enough." The narrative will be that the Europeans are to blame for any woes we've inflicted on ourself. We're already seeing Europeans being blamed for being intransigent. Despite the fact it's us who have mucked around for ages with the withdrawal agreement. And its us who are now trying to break international law, as admmitted by the tories. | |||
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"Johnson has more than enough time for a 'Falklands moment'. People were daft enough to vote for him once, I honestly believe they could do so again. Yes, it would be much more difficult because of the government's handling of the pandemic and their approach to brexit post-election. There'll also be one hell of a day of reckoning when the economic cost of the pandemic, on top of our departure for leaving the EU, becomes clear. And yet, I honestly would not be surprised if Johnson won another election. In the next few years even more people will be considerably more desperate for a scapegoat than they are now and were. And if people were daft enough to believe the pathological liar over his so-called 'oven ready' deal, god only knows what else people would believe if he pushed it hard enough." He is still ahead in the polls isnt he? | |||
"And yes Johnson could win again. Enough people believed his lies in the past. They might in the future. (I doubt he'll stick around until the next election, though. He's not a fan of being forced to do anything approaching work.)" I dont think people do believe him..they simply dont care . | |||
"Johnson has more than enough time for a 'Falklands moment'. People were daft enough to vote for him once, I honestly believe they could do so again. Yes, it would be much more difficult because of the government's handling of the pandemic and their approach to brexit post-election. There'll also be one hell of a day of reckoning when the economic cost of the pandemic, on top of our departure for leaving the EU, becomes clear. And yet, I honestly would not be surprised if Johnson won another election. In the next few years even more people will be considerably more desperate for a scapegoat than they are now and were. And if people were daft enough to believe the pathological liar over his so-called 'oven ready' deal, god only knows what else people would believe if he pushed it hard enough. He is still ahead in the polls isnt he?" At present still ahead but narrowed since starmer became Labour's leader | |||
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"I think Boris would be a great laugh on night out, much more than tedious starmer, and you would get some hilarious Latin quotes and buffoonery, it would be a good laugh especially if sturgeon was there to, ha ha ha " Who gives a toss about how Boris would come across In a party compared to Starmer. It’s not a partygoer or a clown for the circus we are talking about. It’s the pm of this country. We do read quite a few stupid things in these topics but you’re in a league of your own. | |||
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"I think Boris would be a great laugh on night out, much more than tedious starmer, and you would get some hilarious Latin quotes and buffoonery, it would be a good laugh especially if sturgeon was there to, ha ha ha " Everything you want in a pm | |||
"Only way Labour will ever win an election is if they regain all the seats in Scotland they've lost to the SNP, There's no way they will turn around there worst result since the 30s in 4 yrs." Would have to be a labour /snp coalition | |||
"I think Boris would be a great laugh on night out, much more than tedious starmer, and you would get some hilarious Latin quotes and buffoonery, it would be a good laugh especially if sturgeon was there to, ha ha ha " What a shame he's supposed to be busy running the country. | |||
"I think Boris would be a great laugh on night out, much more than tedious starmer, and you would get some hilarious Latin quotes and buffoonery, it would be a good laugh especially if sturgeon was there to, ha ha ha What a shame he's supposed to be busy running the country." When I first saw your comment I thought you said ruining the country. It actually made more sense... | |||
"I think Boris would be a great laugh on night out, much more than tedious starmer, and you would get some hilarious Latin quotes and buffoonery, it would be a good laugh especially if sturgeon was there to, ha ha ha What a shame he's supposed to be busy running the country. When I first saw your comment I thought you said ruining the country. It actually made more sense..." It would have been a perfect Freudian slip. | |||
"Only way Labour will ever win an election is if they regain all the seats in Scotland they've lost to the SNP, There's no way they will turn around there worst result since the 30s in 4 yrs. Would have to be a labour /snp coalition " I might be wrong but I think Blair would have had a majority on all 3 elections without the Scottish seats. | |||
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"Only way Labour will ever win an election is if they regain all the seats in Scotland they've lost to the SNP, There's no way they will turn around there worst result since the 30s in 4 yrs. Would have to be a labour /snp coalition I might be wrong but I think Blair would have had a majority on all 3 elections without the Scottish seats. " Didnt labour only lose Scotland quite recently? | |||
"Easy Conservative victory in 2024,the general population don't want that hard left rubbish anywhere near No 10. " With enough voters like you, they might well win that election. | |||
"Easy Conservative victory in 2024,the general population don't want that hard left rubbish anywhere near No 10. " Yep we are quite happy with clowns,serial liars and charlatans destroying our future thank you very much. | |||
"Easy Conservative victory in 2024,the general population don't want that hard left rubbish anywhere near No 10. " What we have at the moment is so much better. Honesty, competence, integrity, accountability, respect for the British political institutions etc.. Ehats not to like?  | |||
"Easy Conservative victory in 2024,the general population don't want that hard left rubbish anywhere near No 10. What we have at the moment is so much better. Honesty, competence, integrity, accountability, respect for the British political institutions etc.. Ehats not to like? "The sad thing is, certain people won't even realise that post's deliberately ironic. | |||
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"Four years is a long time in politics yes it is. The damage this this bunch of charlatans is doing to the country will take a generation to fix. Will never be fixed if labour get in Well at least you are admitting that this bunch or charlatans are causing damage.... I really don't understand people like you. We have a PM who is a proven liar. He really doesn't give a damn about you. He wanted to be PM for the status. He misses cobra meetings. He is lazy. But all you can do is attack the labour party and, as I have seen before, KS. A man who the Tories are desperately trying to dig up some dirt on. The best they seem to be able to do is associate him with Corbyn and therefore the IRA. Pathetic creatures and you just don't see it. The composition of a ministerial-level meeting in COBR depends on the nature of the incident but it is usually chaired by the Prime Minister OR Another Senior Minister, with other key ministers as appropriate, city mayors and representatives of relevant external organisations such as the National Police Chiefs' Council and the Local Government Association." Oh come on...A serious pandemic deserves the attention of the PM don't you think? | |||
" Didnt labour only lose Scotland quite recently?" Yes in 2010 but my point was Blair still had a majority in the prior 3 election without relying on any of the Scottish seats so it's not so ridiculous to think SKS can win even if Scotland gained their independence which increasingly I think is likely. | |||
"Four years is a long time in politics yes it is. The damage this this bunch of charlatans is doing to the country will take a generation to fix. Will never be fixed if labour get in Well at least you are admitting that this bunch or charlatans are causing damage.... I really don't understand people like you. We have a PM who is a proven liar. He really doesn't give a damn about you. He wanted to be PM for the status. He misses cobra meetings. He is lazy. But all you can do is attack the labour party and, as I have seen before, KS. A man who the Tories are desperately trying to dig up some dirt on. The best they seem to be able to do is associate him with Corbyn and therefore the IRA. Pathetic creatures and you just don't see it. The composition of a ministerial-level meeting in COBR depends on the nature of the incident but it is usually chaired by the Prime Minister OR Another Senior Minister, with other key ministers as appropriate, city mayors and representatives of relevant external organisations such as the National Police Chiefs' Council and the Local Government Association. Oh come on...A serious pandemic deserves the attention of the PM don't you think? " You'd think that, wouldn't you? But that might have involved Johnson actually doing some work. | |||
"Prediction for election 2024. Owing to how the goverment has performed over covid not to brexit over recent years. Tories may still have the most mps however not enough overall to form a goverment in which case we see the resignation of Boris and Kier Starmer becomes new pm under a coalition goverment. " Not a chance | |||
"Prediction for election 2024. Owing to how the goverment has performed over covid not to brexit over recent years. Tories may still have the most mps however not enough overall to form a goverment in which case we see the resignation of Boris and Kier Starmer becomes new pm under a coalition goverment. " It's perfectly possible he does seem a breath of fresh air for Labour. He has had a good start but still not heard his policies or direction he wants to take the country if he were to win. It's all well and good to hold the government to account as he should but at some point he needs to set out his own stall | |||
" Didnt labour only lose Scotland quite recently? Yes in 2010 but my point was Blair still had a majority in the prior 3 election without relying on any of the Scottish seats so it's not so ridiculous to think SKS can win even if Scotland gained their independence which increasingly I think is likely. " Blair had the backing of Murdoch then | |||
" It's perfectly possible he does seem a breath of fresh air for Labour. He has had a good start but still not heard his policies or direction he wants to take the country if he were to win. It's all well and good to hold the government to account as he should but at some point he needs to set out his own stall" This. I am a Labour man (or gurl, take your pick), and i agree that his job currently is to hold the current bunch of wankers.....i mean government....to account. But as you say, at some point (3 years time as a GE looms?) he will have to come forward with policies to get back the votes | |||
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"Still 42% Conservative 36% Labour. Can you imagine that? Even after all the vitriol? Really what does Labour have to do? "There isnt much they can do. | |||
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"The momentum radicals will have rid of SKS long before 2024." Believing in a fair society amounts you to being a radical now. | |||
"The momentum radicals will have rid of SKS long before 2024. Believing in a fair society amounts you to being a radical now." Fair for some at least I suppose | |||
"The momentum radicals will have rid of SKS long before 2024. Believing in a fair society amounts you to being a radical now. Fair for some at least I suppose " That doesn't make sense. Fair by it's very meaning..means equal for everyone. | |||
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"What more can this government and the virus do to help Labour win. On top of that Labour seem to have found a decent leader." We live in a conservative country with a conservative media. It's that simple. | |||
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"Four years is a long time in politics" Never heard a truer statement. Be an interesting few years. | |||
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"Thank Goodness for that! "No words needed | |||
"The momentum radicals will have rid of SKS long before 2024. Believing in a fair society amounts you to being a radical now. Fair for some at least I suppose That doesn't make sense. Fair by it's very meaning..means equal for everyone. " Life is not fair and under no system will it be fair for every one there will allways be winners and losers.Many get what they deserve others do not. I do think however the more you put into life the more you get out in most cases | |||
"The momentum radicals will have rid of SKS long before 2024. Believing in a fair society amounts you to being a radical now. Fair for some at least I suppose That doesn't make sense. Fair by it's very meaning..means equal for everyone. Life is not fair and under no system will it be fair for every one there will allways be winners and losers.Many get what they deserve others do not. I do think however the more you put into life the more you get out in most cases" Life isnt fair. A society which gives huge,massive advantages to people born into wealth doesnt even try to redress the balance. Just look at how many people in the top echelons of our society were privately educated. | |||
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"Would Boris be pm if he was from a poor family and education at the local comprehensive school? Would trump be president of the United States with out his money and power? Money equals power and position " Shirley, I actually agree with something you say. Pinch me. | |||
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"Prediction for election 2024. Owing to how the goverment has performed over covid not to brexit over recent years. Tories may still have the most mps however not enough overall to form a goverment in which case we see the resignation of Boris and Kier Starmer becomes new pm under a coalition goverment. Boris will resign a long time before 2024, I think he will go next year " Fingers, toes, legs and eyes crossed for that. | |||
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"I think Boris would be a great laugh on night out, much more than tedious starmer, and you would get some hilarious Latin quotes and buffoonery, it would be a good laugh especially if sturgeon was there to, ha ha ha Who gives a toss about how Boris would come across In a party compared to Starmer. It’s not a partygoer or a clown for the circus we are talking about. It’s the pm of this country. We do read quite a few stupid things in these topics but you’re in a league of your own. " Quite right sir. People should remember this is a serious political site for seriously intelligent, politically savvy people, it's not a site for frivolity and light hearted comments, next thing he'll say is not everyone is an expert and this is some form of swingers site, helping like minded, sexy, friendly folks meet. Cheek of the man. | |||
"Boris, presided over a historical tory victory, the best since Thatcher, he is incredibly unlikely to resign, unless through Illness or the like. Whether we like it or not we have got the tories for a long time, the nation, decided. " Of course he will resign, you are deluded if you think otherwise, just look at the mans past?  | |||
" Didnt labour only lose Scotland quite recently? Yes in 2010 but my point was Blair still had a majority in the prior 3 election without relying on any of the Scottish seats so it's not so ridiculous to think SKS can win even if Scotland gained their independence which increasingly I think is likely. " Correct. The vote in Scotland is irrelevant in regard to determining the outcome of a UK GE. All it has ever done is increase a Labour majority - on the few occasions that has happened. If Starmer is going to become PM, he's going to have to do it without any help from Scots voters. That's possible, but given how far to the right England has drifted, it seems highly unlikely at the next GE; maybe even the one after that. The prospect of which, is one reason why enthusiasm for an independent Scotland isn't declining. I don't think it's likely for a long while yet, either - but given how utterly divided the UK now is, it's an issue that won't go away. So, for SKS to win a GE in England, he's going to have to go full Blair and steal the Tories' clothes. That's how Blair moved the centre ground to the right (which is where most English voters are and have every right to be); leaving the Tories nowhere to go but even further to the right. And here we are. P.S. To be fair to the Tories, they've implemented more left-wing policy since the Lockdown than anyone expected. Good for them. | |||
"Boris, presided over a historical tory victory, the best since Thatcher, he is incredibly unlikely to resign, unless through Illness or the like. Whether we like it or not we have got the tories for a long time, the nation, decided. Of course he will resign, you are deluded if you think otherwise, just look at the mans past? "Even Thatcher resigned in the end, and she was as tough as they come, I think bojo will be with us for some time, he wanted to be pm for years. I have nothing against him personally, he actually seems a personable chap, who would be a laugh on a night out and buy a round, I actually wanted Corbyn who despite his failing in some areas would have helped create a fairer society and help the poor and destitute in this country, and work for a long overdue united Ireland. Its a great shame he could not get the chance. But I would have a pint with Boris no problem. | |||
"Boris, presided over a historical tory victory, the best since Thatcher, he is incredibly unlikely to resign, unless through Illness or the like. Whether we like it or not we have got the tories for a long time, the nation, decided. Of course he will resign, you are deluded if you think otherwise, just look at the mans past? Even Thatcher resigned in the end, and she was as tough as they come, I think bojo will be with us for some time, he wanted to be pm for years. I have nothing against him personally, he actually seems a personable chap, who would be a laugh on a night out and buy a round, I actually wanted Corbyn who despite his failing in some areas would have helped create a fairer society and help the poor and destitute in this country, and work for a long overdue united Ireland. Its a great shame he could not get the chance. But I would have a pint with Boris no problem. "He will be gone before 2022, he doesn’t have the drive, Desire or the intelligence for the job. He was elected to get ‘Brexit done’ when he has finished fucking that up he will leave and cash in | |||
"Boris, presided over a historical tory victory, the best since Thatcher, he is incredibly unlikely to resign, unless through Illness or the like. Whether we like it or not we have got the tories for a long time, the nation, decided. " he will be removed sooner rather than later once his usefulness is over he will be happily knifed in the back by one of his colleagues. then someone will come out of left field and take over someone who is currently keeping a low profile my money is on rees-mog | |||
"Boris, presided over a historical tory victory, the best since Thatcher, he is incredibly unlikely to resign, unless through Illness or the like. Whether we like it or not we have got the tories for a long time, the nation, decided. he will be removed sooner rather than later once his usefulness is over he will be happily knifed in the back by one of his colleagues. then someone will come out of left field and take over someone who is currently keeping a low profile my money is on rees-mog " I doubt it will be Rees Mog, my money is ion Gove, he has a history of betraying Boris and he is big mates with the top man, Cummings | |||
"Boris, presided over a historical tory victory, the best since Thatcher, he is incredibly unlikely to resign, unless through Illness or the like. Whether we like it or not we have got the tories for a long time, the nation, decided. he will be removed sooner rather than later once his usefulness is over he will be happily knifed in the back by one of his colleagues. then someone will come out of left field and take over someone who is currently keeping a low profile my money is on rees-mog " Hopefully later this week | |||
"Boris, presided over a historical tory victory, the best since Thatcher, he is incredibly unlikely to resign, unless through Illness or the like. Whether we like it or not we have got the tories for a long time, the nation, decided. he will be removed sooner rather than later once his usefulness is over he will be happily knifed in the back by one of his colleagues. then someone will come out of left field and take over someone who is currently keeping a low profile my money is on rees-mog I doubt it will be Rees Mog, my money is ion Gove, he has a history of betraying Boris and he is big mates with the top man, Cummings " This. Gove has the amibition, the sliminess and the track record that shows he's gone for it before. | |||
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"Reece mog is unallectable in his own right, as is gove, Boris despite his human failings is way better than either. The ideal choice was Corbyn, assassinated by the right wing press, Starmer is a establishment sell out, we need a proper decent socialist candidate, like long Bailey or nandy, not more of the same clones of the establishment. If only Corbyn had embraced brexit, we might have a decent socialist government. Instead we have a parliament committed to enrichment of the elite, rocketing homelessness and social injustice, its shameful that people cannot afford somewhere to live and people sleeping on the streets, capitalism as failed, workers of the world unite, you have nothing to lose, but your chains. Karl Marx, was right, the time is nearing. " Polite question . What do you do for a living? | |||
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"Jeremy corbyn never had a proper job "Apart from being a politician? | |||
"Jeremy corbyn never had a proper job
Apart from being a politician?"And he was really busy running around getting up to evil things all the time, apparently. That must have added loads of hours to his work schedule. | |||
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"Jeremy corbyn never had a proper job
Apart from being a politician?
And he was really busy running around getting up to evil things all the time, apparently. That must have added loads of hours to his work schedule."Yep all that anti semitism isnt going to get done by itself. | |||
"Still 42% Conservative 36% Labour. Can you imagine that? Even after all the vitriol? Really what does Labour have to do? "From what I have heard 1. Regain trust on the economy ( which to many voters think is impossible to achieve) 2. Become a fully centred ground party and purge the hard left members. 3. Become more visible and provide solutions to problems 4. Take back Scotland from the SNP. 5. Regain the trust of all disaffected ex labour voters in the UK 6. Accept that Brexit is the reality (SKS actually Said the election has now put that Issue to rest, because the voters spoke) 7. Do something about illegal migrants. If they could do that they could provide an effective opposition. | |||
"I think Starmer will be the pm after a general election... Remember many labour voters only loaned conservatives the vote ,the conservatives well aware of this. Although no doing of his ,Boris is the 'wrong' personality/ leader during a pandemic,he came in as the jovial joking let's get brexit done and Britain will be great again..then came covid..If not for that I could have seen Boris being a popular Prime Minister..lord knows we are due one! With massive economic debt accruing every day,Labour's note "sorry no money left " will come back to bite them. As someone says above if the conservatives change leader before the next election then maybe they'll win again,but I think Starmer will be Prime Minister.." His role or lack of it in the Rochdale grooming and the Jimmy Saville case should keep him far far away from leading any thing.. | |||
"I think Starmer will be the pm after a general election... Remember many labour voters only loaned conservatives the vote ,the conservatives well aware of this. Although no doing of his ,Boris is the 'wrong' personality/ leader during a pandemic,he came in as the jovial joking let's get brexit done and Britain will be great again..then came covid..If not for that I could have seen Boris being a popular Prime Minister..lord knows we are due one! With massive economic debt accruing every day,Labour's note "sorry no money left " will come back to bite them. As someone says above if the conservatives change leader before the next election then maybe they'll win again,but I think Starmer will be Prime Minister.. His role or lack of it in the Rochdale grooming and the Jimmy Saville case should keep him far far away from leading any thing.." What was his role? Is that the same Jimmy Saville who was a good friend of Margaret Thatcher and Prince Charles and was Knighted by a Tory government | |||
"I think Starmer will be the pm after a general election... Remember many labour voters only loaned conservatives the vote ,the conservatives well aware of this. Although no doing of his ,Boris is the 'wrong' personality/ leader during a pandemic,he came in as the jovial joking let's get brexit done and Britain will be great again..then came covid..If not for that I could have seen Boris being a popular Prime Minister..lord knows we are due one! With massive economic debt accruing every day,Labour's note "sorry no money left " will come back to bite them. As someone says above if the conservatives change leader before the next election then maybe they'll win again,but I think Starmer will be Prime Minister.. His role or lack of it in the Rochdale grooming and the Jimmy Saville case should keep him far far away from leading any thing.." From fullfact: "Mr Starmer was head of the CPS when the decision was made not to prosecute Savile but he was not the reviewing lawyer for the case. An official investigation commissioned later by Starmer criticised both prosecutors and police for their handling of the allegations." | |||
"I think Starmer will be the pm after a general election... Remember many labour voters only loaned conservatives the vote ,the conservatives well aware of this. Although no doing of his ,Boris is the 'wrong' personality/ leader during a pandemic,he came in as the jovial joking let's get brexit done and Britain will be great again..then came covid..If not for that I could have seen Boris being a popular Prime Minister..lord knows we are due one! With massive economic debt accruing every day,Labour's note "sorry no money left " will come back to bite them. As someone says above if the conservatives change leader before the next election then maybe they'll win again,but I think Starmer will be Prime Minister.. His role or lack of it in the Rochdale grooming and the Jimmy Saville case should keep him far far away from leading any thing.. From fullfact: "Mr Starmer was head of the CPS when the decision was made not to prosecute Savile but he was not the reviewing lawyer for the case. An official investigation commissioned later by Starmer criticised both prosecutors and police for their handling of the allegations."" Shhh, don’t confuse them with facts | |||
"I think Starmer will be the pm after a general election... Remember many labour voters only loaned conservatives the vote ,the conservatives well aware of this. Although no doing of his ,Boris is the 'wrong' personality/ leader during a pandemic,he came in as the jovial joking let's get brexit done and Britain will be great again..then came covid..If not for that I could have seen Boris being a popular Prime Minister..lord knows we are due one! With massive economic debt accruing every day,Labour's note "sorry no money left " will come back to bite them. As someone says above if the conservatives change leader before the next election then maybe they'll win again,but I think Starmer will be Prime Minister.. His role or lack of it in the Rochdale grooming and the Jimmy Saville case should keep him far far away from leading any thing.. From fullfact: "Mr Starmer was head of the CPS when the decision was made not to prosecute Savile but he was not the reviewing lawyer for the case. An official investigation commissioned later by Starmer criticised both prosecutors and police for their handling of the allegations."" Oh so because he wasn't the lawyer but later criticised the handling of it makes him a bloke you'd trust to run the country then.. He's as bad as Boris if not worse.. | |||
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"I think Starmer will be the pm after a general election... Remember many labour voters only loaned conservatives the vote ,the conservatives well aware of this. Although no doing of his ,Boris is the 'wrong' personality/ leader during a pandemic,he came in as the jovial joking let's get brexit done and Britain will be great again..then came covid..If not for that I could have seen Boris being a popular Prime Minister..lord knows we are due one! With massive economic debt accruing every day,Labour's note "sorry no money left " will come back to bite them. As someone says above if the conservatives change leader before the next election then maybe they'll win again,but I think Starmer will be Prime Minister.. His role or lack of it in the Rochdale grooming and the Jimmy Saville case should keep him far far away from leading any thing.. From fullfact: "Mr Starmer was head of the CPS when the decision was made not to prosecute Savile but he was not the reviewing lawyer for the case. An official investigation commissioned later by Starmer criticised both prosecutors and police for their handling of the allegations." Oh so because he wasn't the lawyer but later criticised the handling of it makes him a bloke you'd trust to run the country then.. He's as bad as Boris if not worse.." Huh? I'm not even sure what you're trying to argue here. Are you really trying to argue that it was his fault even though he wasn't the one who did the job? | |||
"I think Starmer will be the pm after a general election... Remember many labour voters only loaned conservatives the vote ,the conservatives well aware of this. Although no doing of his ,Boris is the 'wrong' personality/ leader during a pandemic,he came in as the jovial joking let's get brexit done and Britain will be great again..then came covid..If not for that I could have seen Boris being a popular Prime Minister..lord knows we are due one! With massive economic debt accruing every day,Labour's note "sorry no money left " will come back to bite them. As someone says above if the conservatives change leader before the next election then maybe they'll win again,but I think Starmer will be Prime Minister.. His role or lack of it in the Rochdale grooming and the Jimmy Saville case should keep him far far away from leading any thing.. From fullfact: "Mr Starmer was head of the CPS when the decision was made not to prosecute Savile but he was not the reviewing lawyer for the case. An official investigation commissioned later by Starmer criticised both prosecutors and police for their handling of the allegations." Oh so because he wasn't the lawyer but later criticised the handling of it makes him a bloke you'd trust to run the country then.. He's as bad as Boris if not worse.." So you are comparing proven liar , who left his wife when she had cancer, doesn’t know children he has with a man who got knighted "services to law and criminal justice’ ? Very shrewd | |||
"I think Starmer will be the pm after a general election... Remember many labour voters only loaned conservatives the vote ,the conservatives well aware of this. Although no doing of his ,Boris is the 'wrong' personality/ leader during a pandemic,he came in as the jovial joking let's get brexit done and Britain will be great again..then came covid..If not for that I could have seen Boris being a popular Prime Minister..lord knows we are due one! With massive economic debt accruing every day,Labour's note "sorry no money left " will come back to bite them. As someone says above if the conservatives change leader before the next election then maybe they'll win again,but I think Starmer will be Prime Minister.. His role or lack of it in the Rochdale grooming and the Jimmy Saville case should keep him far far away from leading any thing.. From fullfact: "Mr Starmer was head of the CPS when the decision was made not to prosecute Savile but he was not the reviewing lawyer for the case. An official investigation commissioned later by Starmer criticised both prosecutors and police for their handling of the allegations." Oh so because he wasn't the lawyer but later criticised the handling of it makes him a bloke you'd trust to run the country then.. He's as bad as Boris if not worse.. Huh? I'm not even sure what you're trying to argue here. Are you really trying to argue that it was his fault even though he wasn't the one who did the job? " I'm saying that Starmer isn't a better option for PM.. | |||
"I think Starmer will be the pm after a general election... Remember many labour voters only loaned conservatives the vote ,the conservatives well aware of this. Although no doing of his ,Boris is the 'wrong' personality/ leader during a pandemic,he came in as the jovial joking let's get brexit done and Britain will be great again..then came covid..If not for that I could have seen Boris being a popular Prime Minister..lord knows we are due one! With massive economic debt accruing every day,Labour's note "sorry no money left " will come back to bite them. As someone says above if the conservatives change leader before the next election then maybe they'll win again,but I think Starmer will be Prime Minister.. His role or lack of it in the Rochdale grooming and the Jimmy Saville case should keep him far far away from leading any thing.. From fullfact: "Mr Starmer was head of the CPS when the decision was made not to prosecute Savile but he was not the reviewing lawyer for the case. An official investigation commissioned later by Starmer criticised both prosecutors and police for their handling of the allegations." Oh so because he wasn't the lawyer but later criticised the handling of it makes him a bloke you'd trust to run the country then.. He's as bad as Boris if not worse.. Huh? I'm not even sure what you're trying to argue here. Are you really trying to argue that it was his fault even though he wasn't the one who did the job? I'm saying that Starmer isn't a better option for PM.." Hahahahaha | |||
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"I think Starmer will be the pm after a general election... Remember many labour voters only loaned conservatives the vote ,the conservatives well aware of this. Although no doing of his ,Boris is the 'wrong' personality/ leader during a pandemic,he came in as the jovial joking let's get brexit done and Britain will be great again..then came covid..If not for that I could have seen Boris being a popular Prime Minister..lord knows we are due one! With massive economic debt accruing every day,Labour's note "sorry no money left " will come back to bite them. As someone says above if the conservatives change leader before the next election then maybe they'll win again,but I think Starmer will be Prime Minister.. His role or lack of it in the Rochdale grooming and the Jimmy Saville case should keep him far far away from leading any thing.. From fullfact: "Mr Starmer was head of the CPS when the decision was made not to prosecute Savile but he was not the reviewing lawyer for the case. An official investigation commissioned later by Starmer criticised both prosecutors and police for their handling of the allegations." Oh so because he wasn't the lawyer but later criticised the handling of it makes him a bloke you'd trust to run the country then.. He's as bad as Boris if not worse.. Huh? I'm not even sure what you're trying to argue here. Are you really trying to argue that it was his fault even though he wasn't the one who did the job? I'm saying that Starmer isn't a better option for PM.." Boris is completely out of his depth, will be gone next year and will go down as one of the worst PMs we have ever had. | |||
"Starmer is more establishment, much better to have had long Bailey or nandy, or rainer, someone with a gob on them, to tell it like it is in their ivory towers. Not another damn lawyer, get some one who as done a proper job, and no Eton educated toffs. " What is a ‘proper job’? | |||
"I think Starmer will be the pm after a general election... Remember many labour voters only loaned conservatives the vote ,the conservatives well aware of this. Although no doing of his ,Boris is the 'wrong' personality/ leader during a pandemic,he came in as the jovial joking let's get brexit done and Britain will be great again..then came covid..If not for that I could have seen Boris being a popular Prime Minister..lord knows we are due one! With massive economic debt accruing every day,Labour's note "sorry no money left " will come back to bite them. As someone says above if the conservatives change leader before the next election then maybe they'll win again,but I think Starmer will be Prime Minister.. His role or lack of it in the Rochdale grooming and the Jimmy Saville case should keep him far far away from leading any thing.. From fullfact: "Mr Starmer was head of the CPS when the decision was made not to prosecute Savile but he was not the reviewing lawyer for the case. An official investigation commissioned later by Starmer criticised both prosecutors and police for their handling of the allegations." Oh so because he wasn't the lawyer but later criticised the handling of it makes him a bloke you'd trust to run the country then.. He's as bad as Boris if not worse.. So you are comparing proven liar , who left his wife when she had cancer, doesn’t know children he has with a man who got knighted "services to law and criminal justice’ ? Very shrewd "Being knighted these days doesn't mean very much.. | |||
"I think Starmer will be the pm after a general election... Remember many labour voters only loaned conservatives the vote ,the conservatives well aware of this. Although no doing of his ,Boris is the 'wrong' personality/ leader during a pandemic,he came in as the jovial joking let's get brexit done and Britain will be great again..then came covid..If not for that I could have seen Boris being a popular Prime Minister..lord knows we are due one! With massive economic debt accruing every day,Labour's note "sorry no money left " will come back to bite them. As someone says above if the conservatives change leader before the next election then maybe they'll win again,but I think Starmer will be Prime Minister.. His role or lack of it in the Rochdale grooming and the Jimmy Saville case should keep him far far away from leading any thing.. From fullfact: "Mr Starmer was head of the CPS when the decision was made not to prosecute Savile but he was not the reviewing lawyer for the case. An official investigation commissioned later by Starmer criticised both prosecutors and police for their handling of the allegations." Oh so because he wasn't the lawyer but later criticised the handling of it makes him a bloke you'd trust to run the country then.. He's as bad as Boris if not worse.. Huh? I'm not even sure what you're trying to argue here. Are you really trying to argue that it was his fault even though he wasn't the one who did the job? I'm saying that Starmer isn't a better option for PM.. Boris is completely out of his depth, will be gone next year and will go down as one of the worst PMs we have ever had. "He is I agree..but who would've done a better job given the circumstances..? | |||
"I think Starmer will be the pm after a general election... Remember many labour voters only loaned conservatives the vote ,the conservatives well aware of this. Although no doing of his ,Boris is the 'wrong' personality/ leader during a pandemic,he came in as the jovial joking let's get brexit done and Britain will be great again..then came covid..If not for that I could have seen Boris being a popular Prime Minister..lord knows we are due one! With massive economic debt accruing every day,Labour's note "sorry no money left " will come back to bite them. As someone says above if the conservatives change leader before the next election then maybe they'll win again,but I think Starmer will be Prime Minister.. His role or lack of it in the Rochdale grooming and the Jimmy Saville case should keep him far far away from leading any thing.. From fullfact: "Mr Starmer was head of the CPS when the decision was made not to prosecute Savile but he was not the reviewing lawyer for the case. An official investigation commissioned later by Starmer criticised both prosecutors and police for their handling of the allegations." Oh so because he wasn't the lawyer but later criticised the handling of it makes him a bloke you'd trust to run the country then.. He's as bad as Boris if not worse.. Huh? I'm not even sure what you're trying to argue here. Are you really trying to argue that it was his fault even though he wasn't the one who did the job? I'm saying that Starmer isn't a better option for PM.. Boris is completely out of his depth, will be gone next year and will go down as one of the worst PMs we have ever had.
He is I agree..but who would've done a better job given the circumstances..?"Cameron, Blair, Brown, Major, May, Thatcher (through gritted teeth) | |||
"I think Starmer will be the pm after a general election... Remember many labour voters only loaned conservatives the vote ,the conservatives well aware of this. Although no doing of his ,Boris is the 'wrong' personality/ leader during a pandemic,he came in as the jovial joking let's get brexit done and Britain will be great again..then came covid..If not for that I could have seen Boris being a popular Prime Minister..lord knows we are due one! With massive economic debt accruing every day,Labour's note "sorry no money left " will come back to bite them. As someone says above if the conservatives change leader before the next election then maybe they'll win again,but I think Starmer will be Prime Minister.. His role or lack of it in the Rochdale grooming and the Jimmy Saville case should keep him far far away from leading any thing.. From fullfact: "Mr Starmer was head of the CPS when the decision was made not to prosecute Savile but he was not the reviewing lawyer for the case. An official investigation commissioned later by Starmer criticised both prosecutors and police for their handling of the allegations." Oh so because he wasn't the lawyer but later criticised the handling of it makes him a bloke you'd trust to run the country then.. He's as bad as Boris if not worse.. So you are comparing proven liar , who left his wife when she had cancer, doesn’t know children he has with a man who got knighted "services to law and criminal justice’ ? Very shrewd
Being knighted these days doesn't mean very much.. "Ah, that’s ok then , better not have one then ? | |||
"I think Starmer will be the pm after a general election... Remember many labour voters only loaned conservatives the vote ,the conservatives well aware of this. Although no doing of his ,Boris is the 'wrong' personality/ leader during a pandemic,he came in as the jovial joking let's get brexit done and Britain will be great again..then came covid..If not for that I could have seen Boris being a popular Prime Minister..lord knows we are due one! With massive economic debt accruing every day,Labour's note "sorry no money left " will come back to bite them. As someone says above if the conservatives change leader before the next election then maybe they'll win again,but I think Starmer will be Prime Minister.. His role or lack of it in the Rochdale grooming and the Jimmy Saville case should keep him far far away from leading any thing.. From fullfact: "Mr Starmer was head of the CPS when the decision was made not to prosecute Savile but he was not the reviewing lawyer for the case. An official investigation commissioned later by Starmer criticised both prosecutors and police for their handling of the allegations." Oh so because he wasn't the lawyer but later criticised the handling of it makes him a bloke you'd trust to run the country then.. He's as bad as Boris if not worse.. So you are comparing proven liar , who left his wife when she had cancer, doesn’t know children he has with a man who got knighted "services to law and criminal justice’ ? Very shrewd
Being knighted these days doesn't mean very much..
Ah, that’s ok then , better not have one then ? "Now now.. | |||
"I think Starmer will be the pm after a general election... Remember many labour voters only loaned conservatives the vote ,the conservatives well aware of this. Although no doing of his ,Boris is the 'wrong' personality/ leader during a pandemic,he came in as the jovial joking let's get brexit done and Britain will be great again..then came covid..If not for that I could have seen Boris being a popular Prime Minister..lord knows we are due one! With massive economic debt accruing every day,Labour's note "sorry no money left " will come back to bite them. As someone says above if the conservatives change leader before the next election then maybe they'll win again,but I think Starmer will be Prime Minister.. His role or lack of it in the Rochdale grooming and the Jimmy Saville case should keep him far far away from leading any thing.. From fullfact: "Mr Starmer was head of the CPS when the decision was made not to prosecute Savile but he was not the reviewing lawyer for the case. An official investigation commissioned later by Starmer criticised both prosecutors and police for their handling of the allegations." Oh so because he wasn't the lawyer but later criticised the handling of it makes him a bloke you'd trust to run the country then.. He's as bad as Boris if not worse.. Huh? I'm not even sure what you're trying to argue here. Are you really trying to argue that it was his fault even though he wasn't the one who did the job? I'm saying that Starmer isn't a better option for PM.. Boris is completely out of his depth, will be gone next year and will go down as one of the worst PMs we have ever had.
He is I agree..but who would've done a better job given the circumstances..?
Cameron, Blair, Brown, Major, May, Thatcher (through gritted teeth) "Possibly only one of those you mentioned...  | |||
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"Starmer is more establishment, much better to have had long Bailey or nandy, or rainer, someone with a gob on them, to tell it like it is in their ivory towers. Not another damn lawyer, get some one who as done a proper job, and no Eton educated toffs. What is a ‘proper job’? " a proper job is where you have to break in to a sweat, and can be sacked for being useless, not a lawyer, robbery at pen point, and Blair was a lawyer so need I say more. Boris would be a laugh on a night out, much more than the rest of them stuffshirts, complete with Latin quotes and jovial buffoonery, about sombreros and letter boxes ha ha | |||
"I think Starmer will be the pm after a general election... Remember many labour voters only loaned conservatives the vote ,the conservatives well aware of this. Although no doing of his ,Boris is the 'wrong' personality/ leader during a pandemic,he came in as the jovial joking let's get brexit done and Britain will be great again..then came covid..If not for that I could have seen Boris being a popular Prime Minister..lord knows we are due one! With massive economic debt accruing every day,Labour's note "sorry no money left " will come back to bite them. As someone says above if the conservatives change leader before the next election then maybe they'll win again,but I think Starmer will be Prime Minister.. His role or lack of it in the Rochdale grooming and the Jimmy Saville case should keep him far far away from leading any thing.." Made up nonsense about a labour leader Where have I heard that before? | |||
"I think Starmer will be the pm after a general election... Remember many labour voters only loaned conservatives the vote ,the conservatives well aware of this. Although no doing of his ,Boris is the 'wrong' personality/ leader during a pandemic,he came in as the jovial joking let's get brexit done and Britain will be great again..then came covid..If not for that I could have seen Boris being a popular Prime Minister..lord knows we are due one! With massive economic debt accruing every day,Labour's note "sorry no money left " will come back to bite them. As someone says above if the conservatives change leader before the next election then maybe they'll win again,but I think Starmer will be Prime Minister.. His role or lack of it in the Rochdale grooming and the Jimmy Saville case should keep him far far away from leading any thing.. From fullfact: "Mr Starmer was head of the CPS when the decision was made not to prosecute Savile but he was not the reviewing lawyer for the case. An official investigation commissioned later by Starmer criticised both prosecutors and police for their handling of the allegations." Oh so because he wasn't the lawyer but later criticised the handling of it makes him a bloke you'd trust to run the country then.. He's as bad as Boris if not worse.. Huh? I'm not even sure what you're trying to argue here. Are you really trying to argue that it was his fault even though he wasn't the one who did the job? I'm saying that Starmer isn't a better option for PM.." A chimpanzee with a drink problem is a better option than that clown | |||
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"Starmer is another slick repackaged Blairite. He’s got some Blair and a little bit of Cameron in the way he conducts himself. So he could get in "He also has a ‘Cummings’ - Claire Ainsley Director of Policy | |||
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"He represents Labour's best chance for ages of returning to power though it would help to know what his vision and direction is. Glad to see he says its ok to be patriotic and that they have made mistakes in the past- its not just others that contributed to their downfall" Interesting that SKS and Lisa Nandy broaching the patriotism subject had Labour tearing itself apart again. | |||
"Don't think starmer would be any better, or that killjoy Khan, with his eye on the prize, bojo would get a round in and before ten o'clock, and treat us all to a fish supper and some hilarious gags before bed ha ha "Don’t be daft, he wouldn’t socialise with the lower classes | |||
"He represents Labour's best chance for ages of returning to power though it would help to know what his vision and direction is. Glad to see he says its ok to be patriotic and that they have made mistakes in the past- its not just others that contributed to their downfall Interesting that SKS and Lisa Nandy broaching the patriotism subject had Labour tearing itself apart again." I think they will split in 2 | |||
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"He represents Labour's best chance for ages of returning to power though it would help to know what his vision and direction is. Glad to see he says its ok to be patriotic and that they have made mistakes in the past- its not just others that contributed to their downfall Interesting that SKS and Lisa Nandy broaching the patriotism subject had Labour tearing itself apart again." They have several problems to solve. Never thought patriotism would cause an issue but seems it has | |||
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"Prediction for election 2024. Owing to how the goverment has performed over covid not to brexit over recent years. Tories may still have the most mps however not enough overall to form a goverment in which case we see the resignation of Boris and Kier Starmer becomes new pm under a coalition goverment. " It wouldn't matter if jesus christ was prime minister, too many wankers dont give a fuck and will spread the the virus regardless. | |||
