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"As long as things don’t change radically, this will carry on happening g again and again. If this can at least help to bring down Trump, this will have served a purpose. " think cops shooting black men happened long before trump mate | |||
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"As long as things don’t change radically, this will carry on happening g again and again. If this can at least help to bring down Trump, this will have served a purpose. " Trump? | |||
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"Apparently armed militia going round with police helping them. And we as a country wanna be closer to them?" sure the Americans could say same about the U.K. is any country perfect apart from the EU that is what yr getting at isn’t it lol | |||
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"Apparently armed militia going round with police helping them. And we as a country wanna be closer to them? sure the Americans could say same about the U.K. is any country perfect apart from the EU that is what yr getting at isn’t it lol" Erm no ..america has been in near Melt down for months.check out the news. American are barely are aware of our existence. Not sure what this has to do with The eu? Lol | |||
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"Apparently armed militia going round with police helping them. And we as a country wanna be closer to them? sure the Americans could say same about the U.K. is any country perfect apart from the EU that is what yr getting at isn’t it lol" It's so funny, you go on threads moaning that people are banging on about Brexit and here you are....bringing it up AGAIN!! So so funny | |||
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"America is in the throes of a long long internal decline, really since the 60s with the race riots and the divisions caused by the Vietnam war to name just 2 These divisions have been in America long before trump came along and will be there festering away long after he is gone and forgotten, the divisions are so deep and decisive, and all sides so polarised that no one president regardless of his ability will find a solution to satisfy all sides, the future for America is bleak, throw into the mix the hundreds of millions of military grade guns held by the citizens, makes one shudder, You have something similar in the UK where the EU has for years been blamed for all of Britain's problems and a vote for Brexit was promised as a solution to all problems, now Brexit is done and all the problems are still there " Well he certainly did very little to ease those tensions ..quite the opposite in fact. I do think America is a powder keg. | |||
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"Apparently armed militia going round with police helping them. And we as a country wanna be closer to them? sure the Americans could say same about the U.K. is any country perfect apart from the EU that is what yr getting at isn’t it lol It's so funny, you go on threads moaning that people are banging on about Brexit and here you are....bringing it up AGAIN!! So so funny " In a thread that had nothing to do with Brexit. Lol | |||
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"Apparently armed militia going round with police helping them. And we as a country wanna be closer to them? sure the Americans could say same about the U.K. is any country perfect apart from the EU that is what yr getting at isn’t it lol" The EU isn't a country. Isn't learning fun? | |||
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"okay quick crib notes... Jacob blake.. a unarmed black man, gets shot 7 times in the back by a white police officer... blake lucky to survive, but looks like he may now be paralysed from the waist down... policemen placed on desk duty, not charged cue, fury, a la george floyd murder.... part of town go up in protests which turn nasty... on night 2 of protests, 2 protesters are shot dead... it looks like it was done by someone from a "far right militia" who crossed state lines (from illinois to wisconsin) to do this, it also looks like police did noting to stop him.. not only that they gave him bottles of water.... police arrested a 17yr old back in illinois... cue where were are now..... and this is where is gets really awkward buzzfeed are publishing pictures of said 17 yr old kid, in the front row of a trump rally earlier on in the year (pre covid) the NBA milwaukee bucks players have boycotted their playoff game this afternoon (irony being 1 of the current players is in the middle of a lawsuit against wisconsin police for an assault by an officer at 2am in the morning outside a 24hr pharmancy, his crime was barking across a handicap bay in am empty car park!) ... this was swiftly followed by the 2 other nba playoff games that were due to happen tonight.... this has now spread into baseball as well " | |||
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"okay quick crib notes... Jacob blake.. a unarmed black man, gets shot 7 times in the back by a white police officer... blake lucky to survive, but looks like he may now be paralysed from the waist down... policemen placed on desk duty, not charged cue, fury, a la george floyd murder.... part of town go up in protests which turn nasty... on night 2 of protests, 2 protesters are shot dead... it looks like it was done by someone from a "far right militia" who crossed state lines (from illinois to wisconsin) to do this, it also looks like police did noting to stop him.. not only that they gave him bottles of water.... police arrested a 17yr old back in illinois... cue where were are now..... and this is where is gets really awkward buzzfeed are publishing pictures of said 17 yr old kid, in the front row of a trump rally earlier on in the year (pre covid) the NBA milwaukee bucks players have boycotted their playoff game this afternoon (irony being 1 of the current players is in the middle of a lawsuit against wisconsin police for an assault by an officer at 2am in the morning outside a 24hr pharmancy, his crime was barking across a handicap bay in am empty car park!) ... this was swiftly followed by the 2 other nba playoff games that were due to happen tonight.... this has now spread into baseball as well " I’m pissed and upset with what is going on. | |||
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"okay quick crib notes... Jacob blake.. a unarmed black man, gets shot 7 times in the back by a white police officer... blake lucky to survive, but looks like he may now be paralysed from the waist down... policemen placed on desk duty, not charged cue, fury, a la george floyd murder.... part of town go up in protests which turn nasty... on night 2 of protests, 2 protesters are shot dead... it looks like it was done by someone from a "far right militia" who crossed state lines (from illinois to wisconsin) to do this, it also looks like police did noting to stop him.. not only that they gave him bottles of water.... police arrested a 17yr old back in illinois... cue where were are now..... and this is where is gets really awkward buzzfeed are publishing pictures of said 17 yr old kid, in the front row of a trump rally earlier on in the year (pre covid) the NBA milwaukee bucks players have boycotted their playoff game this afternoon (irony being 1 of the current players is in the middle of a lawsuit against wisconsin police for an assault by an officer at 2am in the morning outside a 24hr pharmancy, his crime was barking across a handicap bay in am empty car park!) ... this was swiftly followed by the 2 other nba playoff games that were due to happen tonight.... this has now spread into baseball as well " You missed a bit. The part where the police where called to a domestic disturbance involving a convicted domestic abuser with an outstanding warrant that isnt supposed to be there (as stated in the police call, likely a restraining order), has taken the womans keys (not yet confirmed if the keys are for the car he tried to enter), had told police he had a knife (which has been been confirmed), has a conviction for assaulting police (and others), resisted arrest, had already been tazered, disobayed orders to stop and tried to either escape in a car with his kids in or get something out of the car, potentially a gun for all the police knew. Not quite the innocent 'victim'. No doubt someone will say that they didnt have to shoot him but thats easy to say when you arent the one putting your own life on the line to deal with it. Police are shot and killed in the blink of an eye. Here is just one example, there are many more - https://news.sky.com/story/glasses-cam-shows-moment-south-carolina-police-officer-shot-in-neck-10983043 Not only that, imagine he had gotten away in the car with 3 kids in the back, there would be outrage for letting them be endangered and them getting hurt in the process doesnt bare thinking about. Long story short, don't break the law and when a cop with a gun tells you to stop, stop. | |||
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"okay quick crib notes... Jacob blake.. a unarmed black man, gets shot 7 times in the back by a white police officer... blake lucky to survive, but looks like he may now be paralysed from the waist down... policemen placed on desk duty, not charged cue, fury, a la george floyd murder.... part of town go up in protests which turn nasty... on night 2 of protests, 2 protesters are shot dead... it looks like it was done by someone from a "far right militia" who crossed state lines (from illinois to wisconsin) to do this, it also looks like police did noting to stop him.. not only that they gave him bottles of water.... police arrested a 17yr old back in illinois... cue where were are now..... and this is where is gets really awkward buzzfeed are publishing pictures of said 17 yr old kid, in the front row of a trump rally earlier on in the year (pre covid) the NBA milwaukee bucks players have boycotted their playoff game this afternoon (irony being 1 of the current players is in the middle of a lawsuit against wisconsin police for an assault by an officer at 2am in the morning outside a 24hr pharmancy, his crime was barking across a handicap bay in am empty car park!) ... this was swiftly followed by the 2 other nba playoff games that were due to happen tonight.... this has now spread into baseball as well " WELL SAID FABIO Yup the guy that sniper rifled & killed people in the crowd WAS A TRUMP SUPPORTER - all over his social media ffs eye witness reports say him or another walked past police with his gun on his back & HANDS UP AND THE POLICE WALKED PAST HIM !!!!!! | |||
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"okay quick crib notes... Jacob blake.. a unarmed black man, gets shot 7 times in the back by a white police officer... blake lucky to survive, but looks like he may now be paralysed from the waist down... policemen placed on desk duty, not charged cue, fury, a la george floyd murder.... part of town go up in protests which turn nasty... on night 2 of protests, 2 protesters are shot dead... it looks like it was done by someone from a "far right militia" who crossed state lines (from illinois to wisconsin) to do this, it also looks like police did noting to stop him.. not only that they gave him bottles of water.... police arrested a 17yr old back in illinois... cue where were are now..... and this is where is gets really awkward buzzfeed are publishing pictures of said 17 yr old kid, in the front row of a trump rally earlier on in the year (pre covid) the NBA milwaukee bucks players have boycotted their playoff game this afternoon (irony being 1 of the current players is in the middle of a lawsuit against wisconsin police for an assault by an officer at 2am in the morning outside a 24hr pharmancy, his crime was barking across a handicap bay in am empty car park!) ... this was swiftly followed by the 2 other nba playoff games that were due to happen tonight.... this has now spread into baseball as well You missed a bit. The part where the police where called to a domestic disturbance involving a convicted domestic abuser with an outstanding warrant that isnt supposed to be there (as stated in the police call, likely a restraining order), has taken the womans keys (not yet confirmed if the keys are for the car he tried to enter), had told police he had a knife (which has been been confirmed), has a conviction for assaulting police (and others), resisted arrest, had already been tazered, disobayed orders to stop and tried to either escape in a car with his kids in or get something out of the car, potentially a gun for all the police knew. Not quite the innocent 'victim'. No doubt someone will say that they didnt have to shoot him but thats easy to say when you arent the one putting your own life on the line to deal with it. Police are shot and killed in the blink of an eye. Here is just one example, there are many more - https://news.sky.com/story/glasses-cam-shows-moment-south-carolina-police-officer-shot-in-neck-10983043 Not only that, imagine he had gotten away in the car with 3 kids in the back, there would be outrage for letting them be endangered and them getting hurt in the process doesnt bare thinking about. Long story short, don't break the law and when a cop with a gun tells you to stop, stop. So I’ll add to that part since you want to justify what happened. There were no additional weapons in the car (That’s been confirmed) Yes comply with police officers and if you don’t there should be consequences, but to justify him being shot 7 times with his back turned with his children in close range is ridiculous. There are plenty of times where police have killed individuals who have complied with their orders as well. The police put their lives on the line everyday and I won’t take that away from them but they are trained to deal with these situations & to neutralise threats. If the police get scared and their instinct is to just shoot then something is wrong. You really think he would’ve gotten away had he not been shot 7 times? The officer had no fear grabbing his vest he kept shooting him. If resisting arrest & breaking law means you should be killed instantly, then a lot of people should be dead if thats the theory you want to go by. Because there are plenty of instances where people have resisted arrest to the point of where they have assaulted the police, even shot at the police (Which isn’t right) and still lived to tell the tale without being shot." Multiple news platforms indicate a knife recovered in the car. I’m not saying it was the right call as there were children directly in the car. They will walk from this. | |||
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"okay quick crib notes... Jacob blake.. a unarmed black man, gets shot 7 times in the back by a white police officer... blake lucky to survive, but looks like he may now be paralysed from the waist down... policemen placed on desk duty, not charged cue, fury, a la george floyd murder.... part of town go up in protests which turn nasty... on night 2 of protests, 2 protesters are shot dead... it looks like it was done by someone from a "far right militia" who crossed state lines (from illinois to wisconsin) to do this, it also looks like police did noting to stop him.. not only that they gave him bottles of water.... police arrested a 17yr old back in illinois... cue where were are now..... and this is where is gets really awkward buzzfeed are publishing pictures of said 17 yr old kid, in the front row of a trump rally earlier on in the year (pre covid) the NBA milwaukee bucks players have boycotted their playoff game this afternoon (irony being 1 of the current players is in the middle of a lawsuit against wisconsin police for an assault by an officer at 2am in the morning outside a 24hr pharmancy, his crime was barking across a handicap bay in am empty car park!) ... this was swiftly followed by the 2 other nba playoff games that were due to happen tonight.... this has now spread into baseball as well You missed a bit. The part where the police where called to a domestic disturbance involving a convicted domestic abuser with an outstanding warrant that isnt supposed to be there (as stated in the police call, likely a restraining order), has taken the womans keys (not yet confirmed if the keys are for the car he tried to enter), had told police he had a knife (which has been been confirmed), has a conviction for assaulting police (and others), resisted arrest, had already been tazered, disobayed orders to stop and tried to either escape in a car with his kids in or get something out of the car, potentially a gun for all the police knew. Not quite the innocent 'victim'. No doubt someone will say that they didnt have to shoot him but thats easy to say when you arent the one putting your own life on the line to deal with it. Police are shot and killed in the blink of an eye. Here is just one example, there are many more - https://news.sky.com/story/glasses-cam-shows-moment-south-carolina-police-officer-shot-in-neck-10983043 Not only that, imagine he had gotten away in the car with 3 kids in the back, there would be outrage for letting them be endangered and them getting hurt in the process doesnt bare thinking about. Long story short, don't break the law and when a cop with a gun tells you to stop, stop. " So I’ll add to that part. There were no additional weapons in the car (That’s been confirmed) Yes comply with police officers and if you don’t there should be consequences, but to justify him being shot 7 times with his back turned with his children in close range is ridiculous. There are plenty of times where police have killed individuals who have complied with their orders as well. The police put their lives on the line everyday and I won’t take that away from them but they are trained to deal with these situations & to neutralise threats. If the police get scared and their instinct is to just start shooting then something is wrong. Do you really think he would’ve gotten away had he not been shot 7 times? The officer had no fear when grabbing his vest as he kept shooting him. If resisting arrest & breaking law means you should be killed instantly, then a lot of people should be dead if thats the theory you want to go by. Because there are plenty of instances where people have resisted arrest to the point of where they have assaulted the police, even shot at the police (Which isn’t right) and still lived to tell the tale without being shot. | |||
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"okay quick crib notes... Jacob blake.. a unarmed black man, gets shot 7 times in the back by a white police officer... blake lucky to survive, but looks like he may now be paralysed from the waist down... policemen placed on desk duty, not charged cue, fury, a la george floyd murder.... part of town go up in protests which turn nasty... on night 2 of protests, 2 protesters are shot dead... it looks like it was done by someone from a "far right militia" who crossed state lines (from illinois to wisconsin) to do this, it also looks like police did noting to stop him.. not only that they gave him bottles of water.... police arrested a 17yr old back in illinois... cue where were are now..... and this is where is gets really awkward buzzfeed are publishing pictures of said 17 yr old kid, in the front row of a trump rally earlier on in the year (pre covid) the NBA milwaukee bucks players have boycotted their playoff game this afternoon (irony being 1 of the current players is in the middle of a lawsuit against wisconsin police for an assault by an officer at 2am in the morning outside a 24hr pharmancy, his crime was barking across a handicap bay in am empty car park!) ... this was swiftly followed by the 2 other nba playoff games that were due to happen tonight.... this has now spread into baseball as well You missed a bit. The part where the police where called to a domestic disturbance involving a convicted domestic abuser with an outstanding warrant that isnt supposed to be there (as stated in the police call, likely a restraining order), has taken the womans keys (not yet confirmed if the keys are for the car he tried to enter), had told police he had a knife (which has been been confirmed), has a conviction for assaulting police (and others), resisted arrest, had already been tazered, disobayed orders to stop and tried to either escape in a car with his kids in or get something out of the car, potentially a gun for all the police knew. Not quite the innocent 'victim'. No doubt someone will say that they didnt have to shoot him but thats easy to say when you arent the one putting your own life on the line to deal with it. Police are shot and killed in the blink of an eye. Here is just one example, there are many more - https://news.sky.com/story/glasses-cam-shows-moment-south-carolina-police-officer-shot-in-neck-10983043 Not only that, imagine he had gotten away in the car with 3 kids in the back, there would be outrage for letting them be endangered and them getting hurt in the process doesnt bare thinking about. Long story short, don't break the law and when a cop with a gun tells you to stop, stop. So I’ll add to that part. There were no additional weapons in the car (That’s been confirmed) Yes comply with police officers and if you don’t there should be consequences, but to justify him being shot 7 times with his back turned with his children in close range is ridiculous. There are plenty of times where police have killed individuals who have complied with their orders as well. The police put their lives on the line everyday and I won’t take that away from them but they are trained to deal with these situations & to neutralise threats. If the police get scared and their instinct is to just start shooting then something is wrong. Do you really think he would’ve gotten away had he not been shot 7 times? The officer had no fear when grabbing his vest as he kept shooting him. If resisting arrest & breaking law means you should be killed instantly, then a lot of people should be dead if thats the theory you want to go by. Because there are plenty of instances where people have resisted arrest to the point of where they have assaulted the police, even shot at the police (Which isn’t right) and still lived to tell the tale without being shot." Unfortunately, you will always get people who won't admit what is happening. They won't openly say it's ok for a black man to be shot in the back 7 times, I kinda wish they would. At least you would know their true position then. | |||
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"okay quick crib notes... Jacob blake.. a unarmed black man, gets shot 7 times in the back by a white police officer... blake lucky to survive, but looks like he may now be paralysed from the waist down... policemen placed on desk duty, not charged cue, fury, a la george floyd murder.... part of town go up in protests which turn nasty... on night 2 of protests, 2 protesters are shot dead... it looks like it was done by someone from a "far right militia" who crossed state lines (from illinois to wisconsin) to do this, it also looks like police did noting to stop him.. not only that they gave him bottles of water.... police arrested a 17yr old back in illinois... cue where were are now..... and this is where is gets really awkward buzzfeed are publishing pictures of said 17 yr old kid, in the front row of a trump rally earlier on in the year (pre covid) the NBA milwaukee bucks players have boycotted their playoff game this afternoon (irony being 1 of the current players is in the middle of a lawsuit against wisconsin police for an assault by an officer at 2am in the morning outside a 24hr pharmancy, his crime was barking across a handicap bay in am empty car park!) ... this was swiftly followed by the 2 other nba playoff games that were due to happen tonight.... this has now spread into baseball as well You missed a bit. The part where the police where called to a domestic disturbance involving a convicted domestic abuser with an outstanding warrant that isnt supposed to be there (as stated in the police call, likely a restraining order), has taken the womans keys (not yet confirmed if the keys are for the car he tried to enter), had told police he had a knife (which has been been confirmed), has a conviction for assaulting police (and others), resisted arrest, had already been tazered, disobayed orders to stop and tried to either escape in a car with his kids in or get something out of the car, potentially a gun for all the police knew. Not quite the innocent 'victim'. No doubt someone will say that they didnt have to shoot him but thats easy to say when you arent the one putting your own life on the line to deal with it. Police are shot and killed in the blink of an eye. Here is just one example, there are many more - https://news.sky.com/story/glasses-cam-shows-moment-south-carolina-police-officer-shot-in-neck-10983043 Not only that, imagine he had gotten away in the car with 3 kids in the back, there would be outrage for letting them be endangered and them getting hurt in the process doesnt bare thinking about. Long story short, don't break the law and when a cop with a gun tells you to stop, stop. So I’ll add to that part. There were no additional weapons in the car (That’s been confirmed) Yes comply with police officers and if you don’t there should be consequences, but to justify him being shot 7 times with his back turned with his children in close range is ridiculous. There are plenty of times where police have killed individuals who have complied with their orders as well. The police put their lives on the line everyday and I won’t take that away from them but they are trained to deal with these situations & to neutralise threats. If the police get scared and their instinct is to just start shooting then something is wrong. Do you really think he would’ve gotten away had he not been shot 7 times? The officer had no fear when grabbing his vest as he kept shooting him. If resisting arrest & breaking law means you should be killed instantly, then a lot of people should be dead if thats the theory you want to go by. Because there are plenty of instances where people have resisted arrest to the point of where they have assaulted the police, even shot at the police (Which isn’t right) and still lived to tell the tale without being shot." No, what is ridiculous is thinking that the police should risk their life on a game of 'wait and see if i get shot or not'. You can try to play down how much of a threat he was all you like but he had already been tazered and managed to fight his way out, the cop isnt psychic to know there was no gun in the car he was reaching into and beside, the knife he was confirmed to have had could easily have killed the cop with one blow. Maybe he could have just shot him once but there are lots of instances of people fighting on after being shot. The cop in kenosha had to make a split second decision, they had given the guy plenty of warnings and it is no secret that if you make the cop fear for his life you risk your own. Jacob blake made that choice | |||
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"okay quick crib notes... Jacob blake.. a unarmed black man, gets shot 7 times in the back by a white police officer... blake lucky to survive, but looks like he may now be paralysed from the waist down... policemen placed on desk duty, not charged cue, fury, a la george floyd murder.... part of town go up in protests which turn nasty... on night 2 of protests, 2 protesters are shot dead... it looks like it was done by someone from a "far right militia" who crossed state lines (from illinois to wisconsin) to do this, it also looks like police did noting to stop him.. not only that they gave him bottles of water.... police arrested a 17yr old back in illinois... cue where were are now..... and this is where is gets really awkward buzzfeed are publishing pictures of said 17 yr old kid, in the front row of a trump rally earlier on in the year (pre covid) the NBA milwaukee bucks players have boycotted their playoff game this afternoon (irony being 1 of the current players is in the middle of a lawsuit against wisconsin police for an assault by an officer at 2am in the morning outside a 24hr pharmancy, his crime was barking across a handicap bay in am empty car park!) ... this was swiftly followed by the 2 other nba playoff games that were due to happen tonight.... this has now spread into baseball as well You missed a bit. The part where the police where called to a domestic disturbance involving a convicted domestic abuser with an outstanding warrant that isnt supposed to be there (as stated in the police call, likely a restraining order), has taken the womans keys (not yet confirmed if the keys are for the car he tried to enter), had told police he had a knife (which has been been confirmed), has a conviction for assaulting police (and others), resisted arrest, had already been tazered, disobayed orders to stop and tried to either escape in a car with his kids in or get something out of the car, potentially a gun for all the police knew. Not quite the innocent 'victim'. No doubt someone will say that they didnt have to shoot him but thats easy to say when you arent the one putting your own life on the line to deal with it. Police are shot and killed in the blink of an eye. Here is just one example, there are many more - https://news.sky.com/story/glasses-cam-shows-moment-south-carolina-police-officer-shot-in-neck-10983043 Not only that, imagine he had gotten away in the car with 3 kids in the back, there would be outrage for letting them be endangered and them getting hurt in the process doesnt bare thinking about. Long story short, don't break the law and when a cop with a gun tells you to stop, stop. So I’ll add to that part. There were no additional weapons in the car (That’s been confirmed) Yes comply with police officers and if you don’t there should be consequences, but to justify him being shot 7 times with his back turned with his children in close range is ridiculous. There are plenty of times where police have killed individuals who have complied with their orders as well. The police put their lives on the line everyday and I won’t take that away from them but they are trained to deal with these situations & to neutralise threats. If the police get scared and their instinct is to just start shooting then something is wrong. Do you really think he would’ve gotten away had he not been shot 7 times? The officer had no fear when grabbing his vest as he kept shooting him. If resisting arrest & breaking law means you should be killed instantly, then a lot of people should be dead if thats the theory you want to go by. Because there are plenty of instances where people have resisted arrest to the point of where they have assaulted the police, even shot at the police (Which isn’t right) and still lived to tell the tale without being shot. No, what is ridiculous is thinking that the police should risk their life on a game of 'wait and see if i get shot or not'. You can try to play down how much of a threat he was all you like but he had already been tazered and managed to fight his way out, the cop isnt psychic to know there was no gun in the car he was reaching into and beside, the knife he was confirmed to have had could easily have killed the cop with one blow. Maybe he could have just shot him once but there are lots of instances of people fighting on after being shot. The cop in kenosha had to make a split second decision, they had given the guy plenty of warnings and it is no secret that if you make the cop fear for his life you risk your own. Jacob blake made that choice " What was your take on George Floyd?? | |||
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"okay quick crib notes... Jacob blake.. a unarmed black man, gets shot 7 times in the back by a white police officer... blake lucky to survive, but looks like he may now be paralysed from the waist down... policemen placed on desk duty, not charged cue, fury, a la george floyd murder.... part of town go up in protests which turn nasty... on night 2 of protests, 2 protesters are shot dead... it looks like it was done by someone from a "far right militia" who crossed state lines (from illinois to wisconsin) to do this, it also looks like police did noting to stop him.. not only that they gave him bottles of water.... police arrested a 17yr old back in illinois... cue where were are now..... and this is where is gets really awkward buzzfeed are publishing pictures of said 17 yr old kid, in the front row of a trump rally earlier on in the year (pre covid) the NBA milwaukee bucks players have boycotted their playoff game this afternoon (irony being 1 of the current players is in the middle of a lawsuit against wisconsin police for an assault by an officer at 2am in the morning outside a 24hr pharmancy, his crime was barking across a handicap bay in am empty car park!) ... this was swiftly followed by the 2 other nba playoff games that were due to happen tonight.... this has now spread into baseball as well You missed a bit. The part where the police where called to a domestic disturbance involving a convicted domestic abuser with an outstanding warrant that isnt supposed to be there (as stated in the police call, likely a restraining order), has taken the womans keys (not yet confirmed if the keys are for the car he tried to enter), had told police he had a knife (which has been been confirmed), has a conviction for assaulting police (and others), resisted arrest, had already been tazered, disobayed orders to stop and tried to either escape in a car with his kids in or get something out of the car, potentially a gun for all the police knew. Not quite the innocent 'victim'. No doubt someone will say that they didnt have to shoot him but thats easy to say when you arent the one putting your own life on the line to deal with it. Police are shot and killed in the blink of an eye. Here is just one example, there are many more - https://news.sky.com/story/glasses-cam-shows-moment-south-carolina-police-officer-shot-in-neck-10983043 Not only that, imagine he had gotten away in the car with 3 kids in the back, there would be outrage for letting them be endangered and them getting hurt in the process doesnt bare thinking about. Long story short, don't break the law and when a cop with a gun tells you to stop, stop. " Which means it's acceptable for armed militia to come in and so what they want? | |||
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"okay quick crib notes... Jacob blake.. a unarmed black man, gets shot 7 times in the back by a white police officer... blake lucky to survive, but looks like he may now be paralysed from the waist down... policemen placed on desk duty, not charged cue, fury, a la george floyd murder.... part of town go up in protests which turn nasty... on night 2 of protests, 2 protesters are shot dead... it looks like it was done by someone from a "far right militia" who crossed state lines (from illinois to wisconsin) to do this, it also looks like police did noting to stop him.. not only that they gave him bottles of water.... police arrested a 17yr old back in illinois... cue where were are now..... and this is where is gets really awkward buzzfeed are publishing pictures of said 17 yr old kid, in the front row of a trump rally earlier on in the year (pre covid) the NBA milwaukee bucks players have boycotted their playoff game this afternoon (irony being 1 of the current players is in the middle of a lawsuit against wisconsin police for an assault by an officer at 2am in the morning outside a 24hr pharmancy, his crime was barking across a handicap bay in am empty car park!) ... this was swiftly followed by the 2 other nba playoff games that were due to happen tonight.... this has now spread into baseball as well You missed a bit. The part where the police where called to a domestic disturbance involving a convicted domestic abuser with an outstanding warrant that isnt supposed to be there (as stated in the police call, likely a restraining order), has taken the womans keys (not yet confirmed if the keys are for the car he tried to enter), had told police he had a knife (which has been been confirmed), has a conviction for assaulting police (and others), resisted arrest, had already been tazered, disobayed orders to stop and tried to either escape in a car with his kids in or get something out of the car, potentially a gun for all the police knew. Not quite the innocent 'victim'. No doubt someone will say that they didnt have to shoot him but thats easy to say when you arent the one putting your own life on the line to deal with it. Police are shot and killed in the blink of an eye. Here is just one example, there are many more - https://news.sky.com/story/glasses-cam-shows-moment-south-carolina-police-officer-shot-in-neck-10983043 Not only that, imagine he had gotten away in the car with 3 kids in the back, there would be outrage for letting them be endangered and them getting hurt in the process doesnt bare thinking about. Long story short, don't break the law and when a cop with a gun tells you to stop, stop. So I’ll add to that part. There were no additional weapons in the car (That’s been confirmed) Yes comply with police officers and if you don’t there should be consequences, but to justify him being shot 7 times with his back turned with his children in close range is ridiculous. There are plenty of times where police have killed individuals who have complied with their orders as well. The police put their lives on the line everyday and I won’t take that away from them but they are trained to deal with these situations & to neutralise threats. If the police get scared and their instinct is to just start shooting then something is wrong. Do you really think he would’ve gotten away had he not been shot 7 times? The officer had no fear when grabbing his vest as he kept shooting him. If resisting arrest & breaking law means you should be killed instantly, then a lot of people should be dead if thats the theory you want to go by. Because there are plenty of instances where people have resisted arrest to the point of where they have assaulted the police, even shot at the police (Which isn’t right) and still lived to tell the tale without being shot. No, what is ridiculous is thinking that the police should risk their life on a game of 'wait and see if i get shot or not'. You can try to play down how much of a threat he was all you like but he had already been tazered and managed to fight his way out, the cop isnt psychic to know there was no gun in the car he was reaching into and beside, the knife he was confirmed to have had could easily have killed the cop with one blow. Maybe he could have just shot him once but there are lots of instances of people fighting on after being shot. The cop in kenosha had to make a split second decision, they had given the guy plenty of warnings and it is no secret that if you make the cop fear for his life you risk your own. Jacob blake made that choice What was your take on George Floyd??" I'll give you 3 guesses. | |||
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"okay quick crib notes... Jacob blake.. a unarmed black man, gets shot 7 times in the back by a white police officer... blake lucky to survive, but looks like he may now be paralysed from the waist down... policemen placed on desk duty, not charged cue, fury, a la george floyd murder.... part of town go up in protests which turn nasty... on night 2 of protests, 2 protesters are shot dead... it looks like it was done by someone from a "far right militia" who crossed state lines (from illinois to wisconsin) to do this, it also looks like police did noting to stop him.. not only that they gave him bottles of water.... police arrested a 17yr old back in illinois... cue where were are now..... and this is where is gets really awkward buzzfeed are publishing pictures of said 17 yr old kid, in the front row of a trump rally earlier on in the year (pre covid) the NBA milwaukee bucks players have boycotted their playoff game this afternoon (irony being 1 of the current players is in the middle of a lawsuit against wisconsin police for an assault by an officer at 2am in the morning outside a 24hr pharmancy, his crime was barking across a handicap bay in am empty car park!) ... this was swiftly followed by the 2 other nba playoff games that were due to happen tonight.... this has now spread into baseball as well You missed a bit. The part where the police where called to a domestic disturbance involving a convicted domestic abuser with an outstanding warrant that isnt supposed to be there (as stated in the police call, likely a restraining order), has taken the womans keys (not yet confirmed if the keys are for the car he tried to enter), had told police he had a knife (which has been been confirmed), has a conviction for assaulting police (and others), resisted arrest, had already been tazered, disobayed orders to stop and tried to either escape in a car with his kids in or get something out of the car, potentially a gun for all the police knew. Not quite the innocent 'victim'. No doubt someone will say that they didnt have to shoot him but thats easy to say when you arent the one putting your own life on the line to deal with it. Police are shot and killed in the blink of an eye. Here is just one example, there are many more - https://news.sky.com/story/glasses-cam-shows-moment-south-carolina-police-officer-shot-in-neck-10983043 Not only that, imagine he had gotten away in the car with 3 kids in the back, there would be outrage for letting them be endangered and them getting hurt in the process doesnt bare thinking about. Long story short, don't break the law and when a cop with a gun tells you to stop, stop. Which means it's acceptable for armed militia to come in and so what they want?" They are armed on both sides now. It’s heading for disaster. | |||
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"okay quick crib notes... Jacob blake.. a unarmed black man, gets shot 7 times in the back by a white police officer... blake lucky to survive, but looks like he may now be paralysed from the waist down... policemen placed on desk duty, not charged cue, fury, a la george floyd murder.... part of town go up in protests which turn nasty... on night 2 of protests, 2 protesters are shot dead... it looks like it was done by someone from a "far right militia" who crossed state lines (from illinois to wisconsin) to do this, it also looks like police did noting to stop him.. not only that they gave him bottles of water.... police arrested a 17yr old back in illinois... cue where were are now..... and this is where is gets really awkward buzzfeed are publishing pictures of said 17 yr old kid, in the front row of a trump rally earlier on in the year (pre covid) the NBA milwaukee bucks players have boycotted their playoff game this afternoon (irony being 1 of the current players is in the middle of a lawsuit against wisconsin police for an assault by an officer at 2am in the morning outside a 24hr pharmancy, his crime was barking across a handicap bay in am empty car park!) ... this was swiftly followed by the 2 other nba playoff games that were due to happen tonight.... this has now spread into baseball as well You missed a bit. The part where the police where called to a domestic disturbance involving a convicted domestic abuser with an outstanding warrant that isnt supposed to be there (as stated in the police call, likely a restraining order), has taken the womans keys (not yet confirmed if the keys are for the car he tried to enter), had told police he had a knife (which has been been confirmed), has a conviction for assaulting police (and others), resisted arrest, had already been tazered, disobayed orders to stop and tried to either escape in a car with his kids in or get something out of the car, potentially a gun for all the police knew. Not quite the innocent 'victim'. No doubt someone will say that they didnt have to shoot him but thats easy to say when you arent the one putting your own life on the line to deal with it. Police are shot and killed in the blink of an eye. Here is just one example, there are many more - https://news.sky.com/story/glasses-cam-shows-moment-south-carolina-police-officer-shot-in-neck-10983043 Not only that, imagine he had gotten away in the car with 3 kids in the back, there would be outrage for letting them be endangered and them getting hurt in the process doesnt bare thinking about. Long story short, don't break the law and when a cop with a gun tells you to stop, stop. So I’ll add to that part. There were no additional weapons in the car (That’s been confirmed) Yes comply with police officers and if you don’t there should be consequences, but to justify him being shot 7 times with his back turned with his children in close range is ridiculous. There are plenty of times where police have killed individuals who have complied with their orders as well. The police put their lives on the line everyday and I won’t take that away from them but they are trained to deal with these situations & to neutralise threats. If the police get scared and their instinct is to just start shooting then something is wrong. Do you really think he would’ve gotten away had he not been shot 7 times? The officer had no fear when grabbing his vest as he kept shooting him. If resisting arrest & breaking law means you should be killed instantly, then a lot of people should be dead if thats the theory you want to go by. Because there are plenty of instances where people have resisted arrest to the point of where they have assaulted the police, even shot at the police (Which isn’t right) and still lived to tell the tale without being shot. No, what is ridiculous is thinking that the police should risk their life on a game of 'wait and see if i get shot or not'. You can try to play down how much of a threat he was all you like but he had already been tazered and managed to fight his way out, the cop isnt psychic to know there was no gun in the car he was reaching into and beside, the knife he was confirmed to have had could easily have killed the cop with one blow. Maybe he could have just shot him once but there are lots of instances of people fighting on after being shot. The cop in kenosha had to make a split second decision, they had given the guy plenty of warnings and it is no secret that if you make the cop fear for his life you risk your own. Jacob blake made that choice " I’m not playing down any threats at all, I even said there should be consequences if you don’t comply So because the police are risking their lives they should assume someone is armed, even if they are That split decision could kill someone who doesn’t deserve to be killed,which has happened before. Like you said if you don’t comply you should be shot. Please.. | |||
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"okay quick crib notes... Jacob blake.. a unarmed black man, gets shot 7 times in the back by a white police officer... blake lucky to survive, but looks like he may now be paralysed from the waist down... policemen placed on desk duty, not charged cue, fury, a la george floyd murder.... part of town go up in protests which turn nasty... on night 2 of protests, 2 protesters are shot dead... it looks like it was done by someone from a "far right militia" who crossed state lines (from illinois to wisconsin) to do this, it also looks like police did noting to stop him.. not only that they gave him bottles of water.... police arrested a 17yr old back in illinois... cue where were are now..... and this is where is gets really awkward buzzfeed are publishing pictures of said 17 yr old kid, in the front row of a trump rally earlier on in the year (pre covid) the NBA milwaukee bucks players have boycotted their playoff game this afternoon (irony being 1 of the current players is in the middle of a lawsuit against wisconsin police for an assault by an officer at 2am in the morning outside a 24hr pharmancy, his crime was barking across a handicap bay in am empty car park!) ... this was swiftly followed by the 2 other nba playoff games that were due to happen tonight.... this has now spread into baseball as well You missed a bit. The part where the police where called to a domestic disturbance involving a convicted domestic abuser with an outstanding warrant that isnt supposed to be there (as stated in the police call, likely a restraining order), has taken the womans keys (not yet confirmed if the keys are for the car he tried to enter), had told police he had a knife (which has been been confirmed), has a conviction for assaulting police (and others), resisted arrest, had already been tazered, disobayed orders to stop and tried to either escape in a car with his kids in or get something out of the car, potentially a gun for all the police knew. Not quite the innocent 'victim'. No doubt someone will say that they didnt have to shoot him but thats easy to say when you arent the one putting your own life on the line to deal with it. Police are shot and killed in the blink of an eye. Here is just one example, there are many more - https://news.sky.com/story/glasses-cam-shows-moment-south-carolina-police-officer-shot-in-neck-10983043 Not only that, imagine he had gotten away in the car with 3 kids in the back, there would be outrage for letting them be endangered and them getting hurt in the process doesnt bare thinking about. Long story short, don't break the law and when a cop with a gun tells you to stop, stop. So I’ll add to that part. There were no additional weapons in the car (That’s been confirmed) Yes comply with police officers and if you don’t there should be consequences, but to justify him being shot 7 times with his back turned with his children in close range is ridiculous. There are plenty of times where police have killed individuals who have complied with their orders as well. The police put their lives on the line everyday and I won’t take that away from them but they are trained to deal with these situations & to neutralise threats. If the police get scared and their instinct is to just start shooting then something is wrong. Do you really think he would’ve gotten away had he not been shot 7 times? The officer had no fear when grabbing his vest as he kept shooting him. If resisting arrest & breaking law means you should be killed instantly, then a lot of people should be dead if thats the theory you want to go by. Because there are plenty of instances where people have resisted arrest to the point of where they have assaulted the police, even shot at the police (Which isn’t right) and still lived to tell the tale without being shot. Unfortunately, you will always get people who won't admit what is happening. They won't openly say it's ok for a black man to be shot in the back 7 times, I kinda wish they would. At least you would know their true position then. " Oh I know, there are people who fill fight tooth and nail to make excuses, it happens all the time. Doesn’t shock me. | |||
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"okay quick crib notes... Jacob blake.. a unarmed black man, gets shot 7 times in the back by a white police officer... blake lucky to survive, but looks like he may now be paralysed from the waist down... policemen placed on desk duty, not charged cue, fury, a la george floyd murder.... part of town go up in protests which turn nasty... on night 2 of protests, 2 protesters are shot dead... it looks like it was done by someone from a "far right militia" who crossed state lines (from illinois to wisconsin) to do this, it also looks like police did noting to stop him.. not only that they gave him bottles of water.... police arrested a 17yr old back in illinois... cue where were are now..... and this is where is gets really awkward buzzfeed are publishing pictures of said 17 yr old kid, in the front row of a trump rally earlier on in the year (pre covid) the NBA milwaukee bucks players have boycotted their playoff game this afternoon (irony being 1 of the current players is in the middle of a lawsuit against wisconsin police for an assault by an officer at 2am in the morning outside a 24hr pharmancy, his crime was barking across a handicap bay in am empty car park!) ... this was swiftly followed by the 2 other nba playoff games that were due to happen tonight.... this has now spread into baseball as well You missed a bit. The part where the police where called to a domestic disturbance involving a convicted domestic abuser with an outstanding warrant that isnt supposed to be there (as stated in the police call, likely a restraining order), has taken the womans keys (not yet confirmed if the keys are for the car he tried to enter), had told police he had a knife (which has been been confirmed), has a conviction for assaulting police (and others), resisted arrest, had already been tazered, disobayed orders to stop and tried to either escape in a car with his kids in or get something out of the car, potentially a gun for all the police knew. Not quite the innocent 'victim'. No doubt someone will say that they didnt have to shoot him but thats easy to say when you arent the one putting your own life on the line to deal with it. Police are shot and killed in the blink of an eye. Here is just one example, there are many more - https://news.sky.com/story/glasses-cam-shows-moment-south-carolina-police-officer-shot-in-neck-10983043 Not only that, imagine he had gotten away in the car with 3 kids in the back, there would be outrage for letting them be endangered and them getting hurt in the process doesnt bare thinking about. Long story short, don't break the law and when a cop with a gun tells you to stop, stop. So I’ll add to that part. There were no additional weapons in the car (That’s been confirmed) Yes comply with police officers and if you don’t there should be consequences, but to justify him being shot 7 times with his back turned with his children in close range is ridiculous. There are plenty of times where police have killed individuals who have complied with their orders as well. The police put their lives on the line everyday and I won’t take that away from them but they are trained to deal with these situations & to neutralise threats. If the police get scared and their instinct is to just start shooting then something is wrong. Do you really think he would’ve gotten away had he not been shot 7 times? The officer had no fear when grabbing his vest as he kept shooting him. If resisting arrest & breaking law means you should be killed instantly, then a lot of people should be dead if thats the theory you want to go by. Because there are plenty of instances where people have resisted arrest to the point of where they have assaulted the police, even shot at the police (Which isn’t right) and still lived to tell the tale without being shot. Unfortunately, you will always get people who won't admit what is happening. They won't openly say it's ok for a black man to be shot in the back 7 times, I kinda wish they would. At least you would know their true position then. " Nice, trying to imply i am racist. Pathetic | |||
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"okay quick crib notes... Jacob blake.. a unarmed black man, gets shot 7 times in the back by a white police officer... blake lucky to survive, but looks like he may now be paralysed from the waist down... policemen placed on desk duty, not charged cue, fury, a la george floyd murder.... part of town go up in protests which turn nasty... on night 2 of protests, 2 protesters are shot dead... it looks like it was done by someone from a "far right militia" who crossed state lines (from illinois to wisconsin) to do this, it also looks like police did noting to stop him.. not only that they gave him bottles of water.... police arrested a 17yr old back in illinois... cue where were are now..... and this is where is gets really awkward buzzfeed are publishing pictures of said 17 yr old kid, in the front row of a trump rally earlier on in the year (pre covid) the NBA milwaukee bucks players have boycotted their playoff game this afternoon (irony being 1 of the current players is in the middle of a lawsuit against wisconsin police for an assault by an officer at 2am in the morning outside a 24hr pharmancy, his crime was barking across a handicap bay in am empty car park!) ... this was swiftly followed by the 2 other nba playoff games that were due to happen tonight.... this has now spread into baseball as well You missed a bit. The part where the police where called to a domestic disturbance involving a convicted domestic abuser with an outstanding warrant that isnt supposed to be there (as stated in the police call, likely a restraining order), has taken the womans keys (not yet confirmed if the keys are for the car he tried to enter), had told police he had a knife (which has been been confirmed), has a conviction for assaulting police (and others), resisted arrest, had already been tazered, disobayed orders to stop and tried to either escape in a car with his kids in or get something out of the car, potentially a gun for all the police knew. Not quite the innocent 'victim'. No doubt someone will say that they didnt have to shoot him but thats easy to say when you arent the one putting your own life on the line to deal with it. Police are shot and killed in the blink of an eye. Here is just one example, there are many more - https://news.sky.com/story/glasses-cam-shows-moment-south-carolina-police-officer-shot-in-neck-10983043 Not only that, imagine he had gotten away in the car with 3 kids in the back, there would be outrage for letting them be endangered and them getting hurt in the process doesnt bare thinking about. Long story short, don't break the law and when a cop with a gun tells you to stop, stop. So I’ll add to that part. There were no additional weapons in the car (That’s been confirmed) Yes comply with police officers and if you don’t there should be consequences, but to justify him being shot 7 times with his back turned with his children in close range is ridiculous. There are plenty of times where police have killed individuals who have complied with their orders as well. The police put their lives on the line everyday and I won’t take that away from them but they are trained to deal with these situations & to neutralise threats. If the police get scared and their instinct is to just start shooting then something is wrong. Do you really think he would’ve gotten away had he not been shot 7 times? The officer had no fear when grabbing his vest as he kept shooting him. If resisting arrest & breaking law means you should be killed instantly, then a lot of people should be dead if thats the theory you want to go by. Because there are plenty of instances where people have resisted arrest to the point of where they have assaulted the police, even shot at the police (Which isn’t right) and still lived to tell the tale without being shot. No, what is ridiculous is thinking that the police should risk their life on a game of 'wait and see if i get shot or not'. You can try to play down how much of a threat he was all you like but he had already been tazered and managed to fight his way out, the cop isnt psychic to know there was no gun in the car he was reaching into and beside, the knife he was confirmed to have had could easily have killed the cop with one blow. Maybe he could have just shot him once but there are lots of instances of people fighting on after being shot. The cop in kenosha had to make a split second decision, they had given the guy plenty of warnings and it is no secret that if you make the cop fear for his life you risk your own. Jacob blake made that choice What was your take on George Floyd??" Play stupid games, win stupid prizes | |||
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"okay quick crib notes... Jacob blake.. a unarmed black man, gets shot 7 times in the back by a white police officer... blake lucky to survive, but looks like he may now be paralysed from the waist down... policemen placed on desk duty, not charged cue, fury, a la george floyd murder.... part of town go up in protests which turn nasty... on night 2 of protests, 2 protesters are shot dead... it looks like it was done by someone from a "far right militia" who crossed state lines (from illinois to wisconsin) to do this, it also looks like police did noting to stop him.. not only that they gave him bottles of water.... police arrested a 17yr old back in illinois... cue where were are now..... and this is where is gets really awkward buzzfeed are publishing pictures of said 17 yr old kid, in the front row of a trump rally earlier on in the year (pre covid) the NBA milwaukee bucks players have boycotted their playoff game this afternoon (irony being 1 of the current players is in the middle of a lawsuit against wisconsin police for an assault by an officer at 2am in the morning outside a 24hr pharmancy, his crime was barking across a handicap bay in am empty car park!) ... this was swiftly followed by the 2 other nba playoff games that were due to happen tonight.... this has now spread into baseball as well You missed a bit. The part where the police where called to a domestic disturbance involving a convicted domestic abuser with an outstanding warrant that isnt supposed to be there (as stated in the police call, likely a restraining order), has taken the womans keys (not yet confirmed if the keys are for the car he tried to enter), had told police he had a knife (which has been been confirmed), has a conviction for assaulting police (and others), resisted arrest, had already been tazered, disobayed orders to stop and tried to either escape in a car with his kids in or get something out of the car, potentially a gun for all the police knew. Not quite the innocent 'victim'. No doubt someone will say that they didnt have to shoot him but thats easy to say when you arent the one putting your own life on the line to deal with it. Police are shot and killed in the blink of an eye. Here is just one example, there are many more - https://news.sky.com/story/glasses-cam-shows-moment-south-carolina-police-officer-shot-in-neck-10983043 Not only that, imagine he had gotten away in the car with 3 kids in the back, there would be outrage for letting them be endangered and them getting hurt in the process doesnt bare thinking about. Long story short, don't break the law and when a cop with a gun tells you to stop, stop. So I’ll add to that part. There were no additional weapons in the car (That’s been confirmed) Yes comply with police officers and if you don’t there should be consequences, but to justify him being shot 7 times with his back turned with his children in close range is ridiculous. There are plenty of times where police have killed individuals who have complied with their orders as well. The police put their lives on the line everyday and I won’t take that away from them but they are trained to deal with these situations & to neutralise threats. If the police get scared and their instinct is to just start shooting then something is wrong. Do you really think he would’ve gotten away had he not been shot 7 times? The officer had no fear when grabbing his vest as he kept shooting him. If resisting arrest & breaking law means you should be killed instantly, then a lot of people should be dead if thats the theory you want to go by. Because there are plenty of instances where people have resisted arrest to the point of where they have assaulted the police, even shot at the police (Which isn’t right) and still lived to tell the tale without being shot. No, what is ridiculous is thinking that the police should risk their life on a game of 'wait and see if i get shot or not'. You can try to play down how much of a threat he was all you like but he had already been tazered and managed to fight his way out, the cop isnt psychic to know there was no gun in the car he was reaching into and beside, the knife he was confirmed to have had could easily have killed the cop with one blow. Maybe he could have just shot him once but there are lots of instances of people fighting on after being shot. The cop in kenosha had to make a split second decision, they had given the guy plenty of warnings and it is no secret that if you make the cop fear for his life you risk your own. Jacob blake made that choice What was your take on George Floyd?? Play stupid games, win stupid prizes " George Floyd didn’t deserve to die in such a cruel public way. It was no game. | |||
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"okay quick crib notes... Jacob blake.. a unarmed black man, gets shot 7 times in the back by a white police officer... blake lucky to survive, but looks like he may now be paralysed from the waist down... policemen placed on desk duty, not charged cue, fury, a la george floyd murder.... part of town go up in protests which turn nasty... on night 2 of protests, 2 protesters are shot dead... it looks like it was done by someone from a "far right militia" who crossed state lines (from illinois to wisconsin) to do this, it also looks like police did noting to stop him.. not only that they gave him bottles of water.... police arrested a 17yr old back in illinois... cue where were are now..... and this is where is gets really awkward buzzfeed are publishing pictures of said 17 yr old kid, in the front row of a trump rally earlier on in the year (pre covid) the NBA milwaukee bucks players have boycotted their playoff game this afternoon (irony being 1 of the current players is in the middle of a lawsuit against wisconsin police for an assault by an officer at 2am in the morning outside a 24hr pharmancy, his crime was barking across a handicap bay in am empty car park!) ... this was swiftly followed by the 2 other nba playoff games that were due to happen tonight.... this has now spread into baseball as well You missed a bit. The part where the police where called to a domestic disturbance involving a convicted domestic abuser with an outstanding warrant that isnt supposed to be there (as stated in the police call, likely a restraining order), has taken the womans keys (not yet confirmed if the keys are for the car he tried to enter), had told police he had a knife (which has been been confirmed), has a conviction for assaulting police (and others), resisted arrest, had already been tazered, disobayed orders to stop and tried to either escape in a car with his kids in or get something out of the car, potentially a gun for all the police knew. Not quite the innocent 'victim'. No doubt someone will say that they didnt have to shoot him but thats easy to say when you arent the one putting your own life on the line to deal with it. Police are shot and killed in the blink of an eye. Here is just one example, there are many more - https://news.sky.com/story/glasses-cam-shows-moment-south-carolina-police-officer-shot-in-neck-10983043 Not only that, imagine he had gotten away in the car with 3 kids in the back, there would be outrage for letting them be endangered and them getting hurt in the process doesnt bare thinking about. Long story short, don't break the law and when a cop with a gun tells you to stop, stop. So I’ll add to that part. There were no additional weapons in the car (That’s been confirmed) Yes comply with police officers and if you don’t there should be consequences, but to justify him being shot 7 times with his back turned with his children in close range is ridiculous. There are plenty of times where police have killed individuals who have complied with their orders as well. The police put their lives on the line everyday and I won’t take that away from them but they are trained to deal with these situations & to neutralise threats. If the police get scared and their instinct is to just start shooting then something is wrong. Do you really think he would’ve gotten away had he not been shot 7 times? The officer had no fear when grabbing his vest as he kept shooting him. If resisting arrest & breaking law means you should be killed instantly, then a lot of people should be dead if thats the theory you want to go by. Because there are plenty of instances where people have resisted arrest to the point of where they have assaulted the police, even shot at the police (Which isn’t right) and still lived to tell the tale without being shot. No, what is ridiculous is thinking that the police should risk their life on a game of 'wait and see if i get shot or not'. You can try to play down how much of a threat he was all you like but he had already been tazered and managed to fight his way out, the cop isnt psychic to know there was no gun in the car he was reaching into and beside, the knife he was confirmed to have had could easily have killed the cop with one blow. Maybe he could have just shot him once but there are lots of instances of people fighting on after being shot. The cop in kenosha had to make a split second decision, they had given the guy plenty of warnings and it is no secret that if you make the cop fear for his life you risk your own. Jacob blake made that choice What was your take on George Floyd??" I can predict his thoughts. | |||
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"okay quick crib notes... Jacob blake.. a unarmed black man, gets shot 7 times in the back by a white police officer... blake lucky to survive, but looks like he may now be paralysed from the waist down... policemen placed on desk duty, not charged cue, fury, a la george floyd murder.... part of town go up in protests which turn nasty... on night 2 of protests, 2 protesters are shot dead... it looks like it was done by someone from a "far right militia" who crossed state lines (from illinois to wisconsin) to do this, it also looks like police did noting to stop him.. not only that they gave him bottles of water.... police arrested a 17yr old back in illinois... cue where were are now..... and this is where is gets really awkward buzzfeed are publishing pictures of said 17 yr old kid, in the front row of a trump rally earlier on in the year (pre covid) the NBA milwaukee bucks players have boycotted their playoff game this afternoon (irony being 1 of the current players is in the middle of a lawsuit against wisconsin police for an assault by an officer at 2am in the morning outside a 24hr pharmancy, his crime was barking across a handicap bay in am empty car park!) ... this was swiftly followed by the 2 other nba playoff games that were due to happen tonight.... this has now spread into baseball as well You missed a bit. The part where the police where called to a domestic disturbance involving a convicted domestic abuser with an outstanding warrant that isnt supposed to be there (as stated in the police call, likely a restraining order), has taken the womans keys (not yet confirmed if the keys are for the car he tried to enter), had told police he had a knife (which has been been confirmed), has a conviction for assaulting police (and others), resisted arrest, had already been tazered, disobayed orders to stop and tried to either escape in a car with his kids in or get something out of the car, potentially a gun for all the police knew. Not quite the innocent 'victim'. No doubt someone will say that they didnt have to shoot him but thats easy to say when you arent the one putting your own life on the line to deal with it. Police are shot and killed in the blink of an eye. Here is just one example, there are many more - https://news.sky.com/story/glasses-cam-shows-moment-south-carolina-police-officer-shot-in-neck-10983043 Not only that, imagine he had gotten away in the car with 3 kids in the back, there would be outrage for letting them be endangered and them getting hurt in the process doesnt bare thinking about. Long story short, don't break the law and when a cop with a gun tells you to stop, stop. Which means it's acceptable for armed militia to come in and so what they want?" Slightly more acceptable than making a race riot out of something that wasn't racist and then using it as an excuse to burn a town to the ground, brick a police officer in the head, try to seal police into a building then set fire to it.... When the towns mayor is protecting the town and its businesses its not surprising people take it upon themselves. | |||
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"okay quick crib notes... Jacob blake.. a unarmed black man, gets shot 7 times in the back by a white police officer... blake lucky to survive, but looks like he may now be paralysed from the waist down... policemen placed on desk duty, not charged cue, fury, a la george floyd murder.... part of town go up in protests which turn nasty... on night 2 of protests, 2 protesters are shot dead... it looks like it was done by someone from a "far right militia" who crossed state lines (from illinois to wisconsin) to do this, it also looks like police did noting to stop him.. not only that they gave him bottles of water.... police arrested a 17yr old back in illinois... cue where were are now..... and this is where is gets really awkward buzzfeed are publishing pictures of said 17 yr old kid, in the front row of a trump rally earlier on in the year (pre covid) the NBA milwaukee bucks players have boycotted their playoff game this afternoon (irony being 1 of the current players is in the middle of a lawsuit against wisconsin police for an assault by an officer at 2am in the morning outside a 24hr pharmancy, his crime was barking across a handicap bay in am empty car park!) ... this was swiftly followed by the 2 other nba playoff games that were due to happen tonight.... this has now spread into baseball as well You missed a bit. The part where the police where called to a domestic disturbance involving a convicted domestic abuser with an outstanding warrant that isnt supposed to be there (as stated in the police call, likely a restraining order), has taken the womans keys (not yet confirmed if the keys are for the car he tried to enter), had told police he had a knife (which has been been confirmed), has a conviction for assaulting police (and others), resisted arrest, had already been tazered, disobayed orders to stop and tried to either escape in a car with his kids in or get something out of the car, potentially a gun for all the police knew. Not quite the innocent 'victim'. No doubt someone will say that they didnt have to shoot him but thats easy to say when you arent the one putting your own life on the line to deal with it. Police are shot and killed in the blink of an eye. Here is just one example, there are many more - https://news.sky.com/story/glasses-cam-shows-moment-south-carolina-police-officer-shot-in-neck-10983043 Not only that, imagine he had gotten away in the car with 3 kids in the back, there would be outrage for letting them be endangered and them getting hurt in the process doesnt bare thinking about. Long story short, don't break the law and when a cop with a gun tells you to stop, stop. So I’ll add to that part. There were no additional weapons in the car (That’s been confirmed) Yes comply with police officers and if you don’t there should be consequences, but to justify him being shot 7 times with his back turned with his children in close range is ridiculous. There are plenty of times where police have killed individuals who have complied with their orders as well. The police put their lives on the line everyday and I won’t take that away from them but they are trained to deal with these situations & to neutralise threats. If the police get scared and their instinct is to just start shooting then something is wrong. Do you really think he would’ve gotten away had he not been shot 7 times? The officer had no fear when grabbing his vest as he kept shooting him. If resisting arrest & breaking law means you should be killed instantly, then a lot of people should be dead if thats the theory you want to go by. Because there are plenty of instances where people have resisted arrest to the point of where they have assaulted the police, even shot at the police (Which isn’t right) and still lived to tell the tale without being shot. No, what is ridiculous is thinking that the police should risk their life on a game of 'wait and see if i get shot or not'. You can try to play down how much of a threat he was all you like but he had already been tazered and managed to fight his way out, the cop isnt psychic to know there was no gun in the car he was reaching into and beside, the knife he was confirmed to have had could easily have killed the cop with one blow. Maybe he could have just shot him once but there are lots of instances of people fighting on after being shot. The cop in kenosha had to make a split second decision, they had given the guy plenty of warnings and it is no secret that if you make the cop fear for his life you risk your own. Jacob blake made that choice What was your take on George Floyd?? Play stupid games, win stupid prizes " And there we have it....I think we all know this posters ideology. Shame he has not the balls to say it.... | |||
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"okay quick crib notes... Jacob blake.. a unarmed black man, gets shot 7 times in the back by a white police officer... blake lucky to survive, but looks like he may now be paralysed from the waist down... policemen placed on desk duty, not charged cue, fury, a la george floyd murder.... part of town go up in protests which turn nasty... on night 2 of protests, 2 protesters are shot dead... it looks like it was done by someone from a "far right militia" who crossed state lines (from illinois to wisconsin) to do this, it also looks like police did noting to stop him.. not only that they gave him bottles of water.... police arrested a 17yr old back in illinois... cue where were are now..... and this is where is gets really awkward buzzfeed are publishing pictures of said 17 yr old kid, in the front row of a trump rally earlier on in the year (pre covid) the NBA milwaukee bucks players have boycotted their playoff game this afternoon (irony being 1 of the current players is in the middle of a lawsuit against wisconsin police for an assault by an officer at 2am in the morning outside a 24hr pharmancy, his crime was barking across a handicap bay in am empty car park!) ... this was swiftly followed by the 2 other nba playoff games that were due to happen tonight.... this has now spread into baseball as well You missed a bit. The part where the police where called to a domestic disturbance involving a convicted domestic abuser with an outstanding warrant that isnt supposed to be there (as stated in the police call, likely a restraining order), has taken the womans keys (not yet confirmed if the keys are for the car he tried to enter), had told police he had a knife (which has been been confirmed), has a conviction for assaulting police (and others), resisted arrest, had already been tazered, disobayed orders to stop and tried to either escape in a car with his kids in or get something out of the car, potentially a gun for all the police knew. Not quite the innocent 'victim'. No doubt someone will say that they didnt have to shoot him but thats easy to say when you arent the one putting your own life on the line to deal with it. Police are shot and killed in the blink of an eye. Here is just one example, there are many more - https://news.sky.com/story/glasses-cam-shows-moment-south-carolina-police-officer-shot-in-neck-10983043 Not only that, imagine he had gotten away in the car with 3 kids in the back, there would be outrage for letting them be endangered and them getting hurt in the process doesnt bare thinking about. Long story short, don't break the law and when a cop with a gun tells you to stop, stop. So I’ll add to that part. There were no additional weapons in the car (That’s been confirmed) Yes comply with police officers and if you don’t there should be consequences, but to justify him being shot 7 times with his back turned with his children in close range is ridiculous. There are plenty of times where police have killed individuals who have complied with their orders as well. The police put their lives on the line everyday and I won’t take that away from them but they are trained to deal with these situations & to neutralise threats. If the police get scared and their instinct is to just start shooting then something is wrong. Do you really think he would’ve gotten away had he not been shot 7 times? The officer had no fear when grabbing his vest as he kept shooting him. If resisting arrest & breaking law means you should be killed instantly, then a lot of people should be dead if thats the theory you want to go by. Because there are plenty of instances where people have resisted arrest to the point of where they have assaulted the police, even shot at the police (Which isn’t right) and still lived to tell the tale without being shot. No, what is ridiculous is thinking that the police should risk their life on a game of 'wait and see if i get shot or not'. You can try to play down how much of a threat he was all you like but he had already been tazered and managed to fight his way out, the cop isnt psychic to know there was no gun in the car he was reaching into and beside, the knife he was confirmed to have had could easily have killed the cop with one blow. Maybe he could have just shot him once but there are lots of instances of people fighting on after being shot. The cop in kenosha had to make a split second decision, they had given the guy plenty of warnings and it is no secret that if you make the cop fear for his life you risk your own. Jacob blake made that choice What was your take on George Floyd?? Play stupid games, win stupid prizes George Floyd didn’t deserve to die in such a cruel public way. It was no game. " Can only blame himself for taking that overdose | |||
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"okay quick crib notes... Jacob blake.. a unarmed black man, gets shot 7 times in the back by a white police officer... blake lucky to survive, but looks like he may now be paralysed from the waist down... policemen placed on desk duty, not charged cue, fury, a la george floyd murder.... part of town go up in protests which turn nasty... on night 2 of protests, 2 protesters are shot dead... it looks like it was done by someone from a "far right militia" who crossed state lines (from illinois to wisconsin) to do this, it also looks like police did noting to stop him.. not only that they gave him bottles of water.... police arrested a 17yr old back in illinois... cue where were are now..... and this is where is gets really awkward buzzfeed are publishing pictures of said 17 yr old kid, in the front row of a trump rally earlier on in the year (pre covid) the NBA milwaukee bucks players have boycotted their playoff game this afternoon (irony being 1 of the current players is in the middle of a lawsuit against wisconsin police for an assault by an officer at 2am in the morning outside a 24hr pharmancy, his crime was barking across a handicap bay in am empty car park!) ... this was swiftly followed by the 2 other nba playoff games that were due to happen tonight.... this has now spread into baseball as well You missed a bit. The part where the police where called to a domestic disturbance involving a convicted domestic abuser with an outstanding warrant that isnt supposed to be there (as stated in the police call, likely a restraining order), has taken the womans keys (not yet confirmed if the keys are for the car he tried to enter), had told police he had a knife (which has been been confirmed), has a conviction for assaulting police (and others), resisted arrest, had already been tazered, disobayed orders to stop and tried to either escape in a car with his kids in or get something out of the car, potentially a gun for all the police knew. Not quite the innocent 'victim'. No doubt someone will say that they didnt have to shoot him but thats easy to say when you arent the one putting your own life on the line to deal with it. Police are shot and killed in the blink of an eye. Here is just one example, there are many more - https://news.sky.com/story/glasses-cam-shows-moment-south-carolina-police-officer-shot-in-neck-10983043 Not only that, imagine he had gotten away in the car with 3 kids in the back, there would be outrage for letting them be endangered and them getting hurt in the process doesnt bare thinking about. Long story short, don't break the law and when a cop with a gun tells you to stop, stop. So I’ll add to that part. There were no additional weapons in the car (That’s been confirmed) Yes comply with police officers and if you don’t there should be consequences, but to justify him being shot 7 times with his back turned with his children in close range is ridiculous. There are plenty of times where police have killed individuals who have complied with their orders as well. The police put their lives on the line everyday and I won’t take that away from them but they are trained to deal with these situations & to neutralise threats. If the police get scared and their instinct is to just start shooting then something is wrong. Do you really think he would’ve gotten away had he not been shot 7 times? The officer had no fear when grabbing his vest as he kept shooting him. If resisting arrest & breaking law means you should be killed instantly, then a lot of people should be dead if thats the theory you want to go by. Because there are plenty of instances where people have resisted arrest to the point of where they have assaulted the police, even shot at the police (Which isn’t right) and still lived to tell the tale without being shot. No, what is ridiculous is thinking that the police should risk their life on a game of 'wait and see if i get shot or not'. You can try to play down how much of a threat he was all you like but he had already been tazered and managed to fight his way out, the cop isnt psychic to know there was no gun in the car he was reaching into and beside, the knife he was confirmed to have had could easily have killed the cop with one blow. Maybe he could have just shot him once but there are lots of instances of people fighting on after being shot. The cop in kenosha had to make a split second decision, they had given the guy plenty of warnings and it is no secret that if you make the cop fear for his life you risk your own. Jacob blake made that choice What was your take on George Floyd?? Play stupid games, win stupid prizes And there we have it....I think we all know this posters ideology. Shame he has not the balls to say it...." You dont have the balls to say you think i am racist. | |||
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"okay quick crib notes... Jacob blake.. a unarmed black man, gets shot 7 times in the back by a white police officer... blake lucky to survive, but looks like he may now be paralysed from the waist down... policemen placed on desk duty, not charged cue, fury, a la george floyd murder.... part of town go up in protests which turn nasty... on night 2 of protests, 2 protesters are shot dead... it looks like it was done by someone from a "far right militia" who crossed state lines (from illinois to wisconsin) to do this, it also looks like police did noting to stop him.. not only that they gave him bottles of water.... police arrested a 17yr old back in illinois... cue where were are now..... and this is where is gets really awkward buzzfeed are publishing pictures of said 17 yr old kid, in the front row of a trump rally earlier on in the year (pre covid) the NBA milwaukee bucks players have boycotted their playoff game this afternoon (irony being 1 of the current players is in the middle of a lawsuit against wisconsin police for an assault by an officer at 2am in the morning outside a 24hr pharmancy, his crime was barking across a handicap bay in am empty car park!) ... this was swiftly followed by the 2 other nba playoff games that were due to happen tonight.... this has now spread into baseball as well You missed a bit. The part where the police where called to a domestic disturbance involving a convicted domestic abuser with an outstanding warrant that isnt supposed to be there (as stated in the police call, likely a restraining order), has taken the womans keys (not yet confirmed if the keys are for the car he tried to enter), had told police he had a knife (which has been been confirmed), has a conviction for assaulting police (and others), resisted arrest, had already been tazered, disobayed orders to stop and tried to either escape in a car with his kids in or get something out of the car, potentially a gun for all the police knew. Not quite the innocent 'victim'. No doubt someone will say that they didnt have to shoot him but thats easy to say when you arent the one putting your own life on the line to deal with it. Police are shot and killed in the blink of an eye. Here is just one example, there are many more - https://news.sky.com/story/glasses-cam-shows-moment-south-carolina-police-officer-shot-in-neck-10983043 Not only that, imagine he had gotten away in the car with 3 kids in the back, there would be outrage for letting them be endangered and them getting hurt in the process doesnt bare thinking about. Long story short, don't break the law and when a cop with a gun tells you to stop, stop. So I’ll add to that part. There were no additional weapons in the car (That’s been confirmed) Yes comply with police officers and if you don’t there should be consequences, but to justify him being shot 7 times with his back turned with his children in close range is ridiculous. There are plenty of times where police have killed individuals who have complied with their orders as well. The police put their lives on the line everyday and I won’t take that away from them but they are trained to deal with these situations & to neutralise threats. If the police get scared and their instinct is to just start shooting then something is wrong. Do you really think he would’ve gotten away had he not been shot 7 times? The officer had no fear when grabbing his vest as he kept shooting him. If resisting arrest & breaking law means you should be killed instantly, then a lot of people should be dead if thats the theory you want to go by. Because there are plenty of instances where people have resisted arrest to the point of where they have assaulted the police, even shot at the police (Which isn’t right) and still lived to tell the tale without being shot. No, what is ridiculous is thinking that the police should risk their life on a game of 'wait and see if i get shot or not'. You can try to play down how much of a threat he was all you like but he had already been tazered and managed to fight his way out, the cop isnt psychic to know there was no gun in the car he was reaching into and beside, the knife he was confirmed to have had could easily have killed the cop with one blow. Maybe he could have just shot him once but there are lots of instances of people fighting on after being shot. The cop in kenosha had to make a split second decision, they had given the guy plenty of warnings and it is no secret that if you make the cop fear for his life you risk your own. Jacob blake made that choice What was your take on George Floyd?? Play stupid games, win stupid prizes " I am going to ask people to do me a favour and don’t interact with this person until I get a chance to post later..... what he is alleging of Jacob brooks is wildly inaccurate but since I am working from home, I am going to finish early so I can put this right.... Thank you | |||
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"okay quick crib notes... Jacob blake.. a unarmed black man, gets shot 7 times in the back by a white police officer... blake lucky to survive, but looks like he may now be paralysed from the waist down... policemen placed on desk duty, not charged cue, fury, a la george floyd murder.... part of town go up in protests which turn nasty... on night 2 of protests, 2 protesters are shot dead... it looks like it was done by someone from a "far right militia" who crossed state lines (from illinois to wisconsin) to do this, it also looks like police did noting to stop him.. not only that they gave him bottles of water.... police arrested a 17yr old back in illinois... cue where were are now..... and this is where is gets really awkward buzzfeed are publishing pictures of said 17 yr old kid, in the front row of a trump rally earlier on in the year (pre covid) the NBA milwaukee bucks players have boycotted their playoff game this afternoon (irony being 1 of the current players is in the middle of a lawsuit against wisconsin police for an assault by an officer at 2am in the morning outside a 24hr pharmancy, his crime was barking across a handicap bay in am empty car park!) ... this was swiftly followed by the 2 other nba playoff games that were due to happen tonight.... this has now spread into baseball as well You missed a bit. The part where the police where called to a domestic disturbance involving a convicted domestic abuser with an outstanding warrant that isnt supposed to be there (as stated in the police call, likely a restraining order), has taken the womans keys (not yet confirmed if the keys are for the car he tried to enter), had told police he had a knife (which has been been confirmed), has a conviction for assaulting police (and others), resisted arrest, had already been tazered, disobayed orders to stop and tried to either escape in a car with his kids in or get something out of the car, potentially a gun for all the police knew. Not quite the innocent 'victim'. No doubt someone will say that they didnt have to shoot him but thats easy to say when you arent the one putting your own life on the line to deal with it. Police are shot and killed in the blink of an eye. Here is just one example, there are many more - https://news.sky.com/story/glasses-cam-shows-moment-south-carolina-police-officer-shot-in-neck-10983043 Not only that, imagine he had gotten away in the car with 3 kids in the back, there would be outrage for letting them be endangered and them getting hurt in the process doesnt bare thinking about. Long story short, don't break the law and when a cop with a gun tells you to stop, stop. So I’ll add to that part. There were no additional weapons in the car (That’s been confirmed) Yes comply with police officers and if you don’t there should be consequences, but to justify him being shot 7 times with his back turned with his children in close range is ridiculous. There are plenty of times where police have killed individuals who have complied with their orders as well. The police put their lives on the line everyday and I won’t take that away from them but they are trained to deal with these situations & to neutralise threats. If the police get scared and their instinct is to just start shooting then something is wrong. Do you really think he would’ve gotten away had he not been shot 7 times? The officer had no fear when grabbing his vest as he kept shooting him. If resisting arrest & breaking law means you should be killed instantly, then a lot of people should be dead if thats the theory you want to go by. Because there are plenty of instances where people have resisted arrest to the point of where they have assaulted the police, even shot at the police (Which isn’t right) and still lived to tell the tale without being shot. No, what is ridiculous is thinking that the police should risk their life on a game of 'wait and see if i get shot or not'. You can try to play down how much of a threat he was all you like but he had already been tazered and managed to fight his way out, the cop isnt psychic to know there was no gun in the car he was reaching into and beside, the knife he was confirmed to have had could easily have killed the cop with one blow. Maybe he could have just shot him once but there are lots of instances of people fighting on after being shot. The cop in kenosha had to make a split second decision, they had given the guy plenty of warnings and it is no secret that if you make the cop fear for his life you risk your own. Jacob blake made that choice What was your take on George Floyd?? Play stupid games, win stupid prizes George Floyd didn’t deserve to die in such a cruel public way. It was no game. Can only blame himself for taking that overdose" He deserved to die with a knee on his neck, no threat to a police officer at all? | |||
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"okay quick crib notes... Jacob blake.. a unarmed black man, gets shot 7 times in the back by a white police officer... blake lucky to survive, but looks like he may now be paralysed from the waist down... policemen placed on desk duty, not charged cue, fury, a la george floyd murder.... part of town go up in protests which turn nasty... on night 2 of protests, 2 protesters are shot dead... it looks like it was done by someone from a "far right militia" who crossed state lines (from illinois to wisconsin) to do this, it also looks like police did noting to stop him.. not only that they gave him bottles of water.... police arrested a 17yr old back in illinois... cue where were are now..... and this is where is gets really awkward buzzfeed are publishing pictures of said 17 yr old kid, in the front row of a trump rally earlier on in the year (pre covid) the NBA milwaukee bucks players have boycotted their playoff game this afternoon (irony being 1 of the current players is in the middle of a lawsuit against wisconsin police for an assault by an officer at 2am in the morning outside a 24hr pharmancy, his crime was barking across a handicap bay in am empty car park!) ... this was swiftly followed by the 2 other nba playoff games that were due to happen tonight.... this has now spread into baseball as well You missed a bit. The part where the police where called to a domestic disturbance involving a convicted domestic abuser with an outstanding warrant that isnt supposed to be there (as stated in the police call, likely a restraining order), has taken the womans keys (not yet confirmed if the keys are for the car he tried to enter), had told police he had a knife (which has been been confirmed), has a conviction for assaulting police (and others), resisted arrest, had already been tazered, disobayed orders to stop and tried to either escape in a car with his kids in or get something out of the car, potentially a gun for all the police knew. Not quite the innocent 'victim'. No doubt someone will say that they didnt have to shoot him but thats easy to say when you arent the one putting your own life on the line to deal with it. Police are shot and killed in the blink of an eye. Here is just one example, there are many more - https://news.sky.com/story/glasses-cam-shows-moment-south-carolina-police-officer-shot-in-neck-10983043 Not only that, imagine he had gotten away in the car with 3 kids in the back, there would be outrage for letting them be endangered and them getting hurt in the process doesnt bare thinking about. Long story short, don't break the law and when a cop with a gun tells you to stop, stop. So I’ll add to that part. There were no additional weapons in the car (That’s been confirmed) Yes comply with police officers and if you don’t there should be consequences, but to justify him being shot 7 times with his back turned with his children in close range is ridiculous. There are plenty of times where police have killed individuals who have complied with their orders as well. The police put their lives on the line everyday and I won’t take that away from them but they are trained to deal with these situations & to neutralise threats. If the police get scared and their instinct is to just start shooting then something is wrong. Do you really think he would’ve gotten away had he not been shot 7 times? The officer had no fear when grabbing his vest as he kept shooting him. If resisting arrest & breaking law means you should be killed instantly, then a lot of people should be dead if thats the theory you want to go by. Because there are plenty of instances where people have resisted arrest to the point of where they have assaulted the police, even shot at the police (Which isn’t right) and still lived to tell the tale without being shot. No, what is ridiculous is thinking that the police should risk their life on a game of 'wait and see if i get shot or not'. You can try to play down how much of a threat he was all you like but he had already been tazered and managed to fight his way out, the cop isnt psychic to know there was no gun in the car he was reaching into and beside, the knife he was confirmed to have had could easily have killed the cop with one blow. Maybe he could have just shot him once but there are lots of instances of people fighting on after being shot. The cop in kenosha had to make a split second decision, they had given the guy plenty of warnings and it is no secret that if you make the cop fear for his life you risk your own. Jacob blake made that choice I’m not playing down any threats at all, I even said there should be consequences if you don’t comply So because the police are risking their lives they should assume someone is armed, even if they are That split decision could kill someone who doesn’t deserve to be killed,which has happened before. Like you said if you don’t comply you should be shot. Please.. 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"okay quick crib notes... Jacob blake.. a unarmed black man, gets shot 7 times in the back by a white police officer... blake lucky to survive, but looks like he may now be paralysed from the waist down... policemen placed on desk duty, not charged cue, fury, a la george floyd murder.... part of town go up in protests which turn nasty... on night 2 of protests, 2 protesters are shot dead... it looks like it was done by someone from a "far right militia" who crossed state lines (from illinois to wisconsin) to do this, it also looks like police did noting to stop him.. not only that they gave him bottles of water.... police arrested a 17yr old back in illinois... cue where were are now..... and this is where is gets really awkward buzzfeed are publishing pictures of said 17 yr old kid, in the front row of a trump rally earlier on in the year (pre covid) the NBA milwaukee bucks players have boycotted their playoff game this afternoon (irony being 1 of the current players is in the middle of a lawsuit against wisconsin police for an assault by an officer at 2am in the morning outside a 24hr pharmancy, his crime was barking across a handicap bay in am empty car park!) ... this was swiftly followed by the 2 other nba playoff games that were due to happen tonight.... this has now spread into baseball as well You missed a bit. The part where the police where called to a domestic disturbance involving a convicted domestic abuser with an outstanding warrant that isnt supposed to be there (as stated in the police call, likely a restraining order), has taken the womans keys (not yet confirmed if the keys are for the car he tried to enter), had told police he had a knife (which has been been confirmed), has a conviction for assaulting police (and others), resisted arrest, had already been tazered, disobayed orders to stop and tried to either escape in a car with his kids in or get something out of the car, potentially a gun for all the police knew. Not quite the innocent 'victim'. No doubt someone will say that they didnt have to shoot him but thats easy to say when you arent the one putting your own life on the line to deal with it. Police are shot and killed in the blink of an eye. Here is just one example, there are many more - https://news.sky.com/story/glasses-cam-shows-moment-south-carolina-police-officer-shot-in-neck-10983043 Not only that, imagine he had gotten away in the car with 3 kids in the back, there would be outrage for letting them be endangered and them getting hurt in the process doesnt bare thinking about. Long story short, don't break the law and when a cop with a gun tells you to stop, stop. Which means it's acceptable for armed militia to come in and so what they want? Slightly more acceptable than making a race riot out of something that wasn't racist and then using it as an excuse to burn a town to the ground, brick a police officer in the head, try to seal police into a building then set fire to it.... When the towns mayor is protecting the town and its businesses its not surprising people take it upon themselves." Superb. | |||
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"okay quick crib notes... Jacob blake.. a unarmed black man, gets shot 7 times in the back by a white police officer... blake lucky to survive, but looks like he may now be paralysed from the waist down... policemen placed on desk duty, not charged cue, fury, a la george floyd murder.... part of town go up in protests which turn nasty... on night 2 of protests, 2 protesters are shot dead... it looks like it was done by someone from a "far right militia" who crossed state lines (from illinois to wisconsin) to do this, it also looks like police did noting to stop him.. not only that they gave him bottles of water.... police arrested a 17yr old back in illinois... cue where were are now..... and this is where is gets really awkward buzzfeed are publishing pictures of said 17 yr old kid, in the front row of a trump rally earlier on in the year (pre covid) the NBA milwaukee bucks players have boycotted their playoff game this afternoon (irony being 1 of the current players is in the middle of a lawsuit against wisconsin police for an assault by an officer at 2am in the morning outside a 24hr pharmancy, his crime was barking across a handicap bay in am empty car park!) ... this was swiftly followed by the 2 other nba playoff games that were due to happen tonight.... this has now spread into baseball as well You missed a bit. The part where the police where called to a domestic disturbance involving a convicted domestic abuser with an outstanding warrant that isnt supposed to be there (as stated in the police call, likely a restraining order), has taken the womans keys (not yet confirmed if the keys are for the car he tried to enter), had told police he had a knife (which has been been confirmed), has a conviction for assaulting police (and others), resisted arrest, had already been tazered, disobayed orders to stop and tried to either escape in a car with his kids in or get something out of the car, potentially a gun for all the police knew. Not quite the innocent 'victim'. No doubt someone will say that they didnt have to shoot him but thats easy to say when you arent the one putting your own life on the line to deal with it. Police are shot and killed in the blink of an eye. Here is just one example, there are many more - https://news.sky.com/story/glasses-cam-shows-moment-south-carolina-police-officer-shot-in-neck-10983043 Not only that, imagine he had gotten away in the car with 3 kids in the back, there would be outrage for letting them be endangered and them getting hurt in the process doesnt bare thinking about. Long story short, don't break the law and when a cop with a gun tells you to stop, stop. So I’ll add to that part. There were no additional weapons in the car (That’s been confirmed) Yes comply with police officers and if you don’t there should be consequences, but to justify him being shot 7 times with his back turned with his children in close range is ridiculous. There are plenty of times where police have killed individuals who have complied with their orders as well. The police put their lives on the line everyday and I won’t take that away from them but they are trained to deal with these situations & to neutralise threats. If the police get scared and their instinct is to just start shooting then something is wrong. Do you really think he would’ve gotten away had he not been shot 7 times? The officer had no fear when grabbing his vest as he kept shooting him. If resisting arrest & breaking law means you should be killed instantly, then a lot of people should be dead if thats the theory you want to go by. Because there are plenty of instances where people have resisted arrest to the point of where they have assaulted the police, even shot at the police (Which isn’t right) and still lived to tell the tale without being shot. No, what is ridiculous is thinking that the police should risk their life on a game of 'wait and see if i get shot or not'. You can try to play down how much of a threat he was all you like but he had already been tazered and managed to fight his way out, the cop isnt psychic to know there was no gun in the car he was reaching into and beside, the knife he was confirmed to have had could easily have killed the cop with one blow. Maybe he could have just shot him once but there are lots of instances of people fighting on after being shot. The cop in kenosha had to make a split second decision, they had given the guy plenty of warnings and it is no secret that if you make the cop fear for his life you risk your own. Jacob blake made that choice What was your take on George Floyd?? Play stupid games, win stupid prizes I am going to ask people to do me a favour and don’t interact with this person until I get a chance to post later..... what he is alleging of Jacob brooks is wildly inaccurate but since I am working from home, I am going to finish early so I can put this right.... 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"okay quick crib notes... Jacob blake.. a unarmed black man, gets shot 7 times in the back by a white police officer... blake lucky to survive, but looks like he may now be paralysed from the waist down... policemen placed on desk duty, not charged cue, fury, a la george floyd murder.... part of town go up in protests which turn nasty... on night 2 of protests, 2 protesters are shot dead... it looks like it was done by someone from a "far right militia" who crossed state lines (from illinois to wisconsin) to do this, it also looks like police did noting to stop him.. not only that they gave him bottles of water.... police arrested a 17yr old back in illinois... cue where were are now..... and this is where is gets really awkward buzzfeed are publishing pictures of said 17 yr old kid, in the front row of a trump rally earlier on in the year (pre covid) the NBA milwaukee bucks players have boycotted their playoff game this afternoon (irony being 1 of the current players is in the middle of a lawsuit against wisconsin police for an assault by an officer at 2am in the morning outside a 24hr pharmancy, his crime was barking across a handicap bay in am empty car park!) ... this was swiftly followed by the 2 other nba playoff games that were due to happen tonight.... this has now spread into baseball as well You missed a bit. The part where the police where called to a domestic disturbance involving a convicted domestic abuser with an outstanding warrant that isnt supposed to be there (as stated in the police call, likely a restraining order), has taken the womans keys (not yet confirmed if the keys are for the car he tried to enter), had told police he had a knife (which has been been confirmed), has a conviction for assaulting police (and others), resisted arrest, had already been tazered, disobayed orders to stop and tried to either escape in a car with his kids in or get something out of the car, potentially a gun for all the police knew. Not quite the innocent 'victim'. No doubt someone will say that they didnt have to shoot him but thats easy to say when you arent the one putting your own life on the line to deal with it. Police are shot and killed in the blink of an eye. Here is just one example, there are many more - https://news.sky.com/story/glasses-cam-shows-moment-south-carolina-police-officer-shot-in-neck-10983043 Not only that, imagine he had gotten away in the car with 3 kids in the back, there would be outrage for letting them be endangered and them getting hurt in the process doesnt bare thinking about. Long story short, don't break the law and when a cop with a gun tells you to stop, stop. So I’ll add to that part. There were no additional weapons in the car (That’s been confirmed) Yes comply with police officers and if you don’t there should be consequences, but to justify him being shot 7 times with his back turned with his children in close range is ridiculous. There are plenty of times where police have killed individuals who have complied with their orders as well. The police put their lives on the line everyday and I won’t take that away from them but they are trained to deal with these situations & to neutralise threats. If the police get scared and their instinct is to just start shooting then something is wrong. Do you really think he would’ve gotten away had he not been shot 7 times? The officer had no fear when grabbing his vest as he kept shooting him. If resisting arrest & breaking law means you should be killed instantly, then a lot of people should be dead if thats the theory you want to go by. Because there are plenty of instances where people have resisted arrest to the point of where they have assaulted the police, even shot at the police (Which isn’t right) and still lived to tell the tale without being shot. No, what is ridiculous is thinking that the police should risk their life on a game of 'wait and see if i get shot or not'. You can try to play down how much of a threat he was all you like but he had already been tazered and managed to fight his way out, the cop isnt psychic to know there was no gun in the car he was reaching into and beside, the knife he was confirmed to have had could easily have killed the cop with one blow. Maybe he could have just shot him once but there are lots of instances of people fighting on after being shot. The cop in kenosha had to make a split second decision, they had given the guy plenty of warnings and it is no secret that if you make the cop fear for his life you risk your own. Jacob blake made that choice What was your take on George Floyd?? Play stupid games, win stupid prizes I am going to ask people to do me a favour and don’t interact with this person until I get a chance to post later..... what he is alleging of Jacob brooks is wildly inaccurate but since I am working from home, I am going to finish early so I can put this right.... Thank you " Cant wait. Details of court records - https://www.forbes.com/sites/rachelsandler/2020/08/26/investigators-say-jacob-blake-had-a-knife-in-his-car-officer-who-shot-him-identified/ "Court records show Blake was charged with third-degree sexual assault, criminal trespassing and disorderly conduct related to domestic abuse on July 6." Official statement - https://youtu.be/hlVceB5JVCo Police dispatch audio - https://youtu.be/nBT14Vo--DE | |||
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"Fuck it... I am going to do it now Okay... a few things need to be corrected from mellows allegations..... 1) Jacob brooks does NOT have a criminal record..... repeat NOT have a criminal record 2) he did have an outstanding arrest warrant for 3rd degree sexual assault, trespass and disorderly conduct... that stems from an incident last month 3) under Wisconsin state law, 3rd degree sexual assault is defined as “touching someone sexually without consent” what that is NOT is the 4 letter word beginning with R that is banned here.... it is also NOT penertration of any sort... with anything! So if for example I grabbed a boob, that is 3rd degree sexual assault, if I grabbed or slapped your arse, that is 3rd degree assault or if I did what trump likes to do in the access Hollywood tape... that is 3rd degree sexual assault 4) you know that whole “innocent until proven guilty thing”.... that.... therefore refer back to point 1... 5) if he was really that much of a danger why let him walk all the way around the car, when he is in front of you all the time, to then let him turn around, to then shoot him 7 times in the back from point blank range 6) refer back to 1" So he does have a criminal record then. The cops kept their distance from a man that said he had a knife, understandable. Cops dont physically engage when they have their guns drawn as they risk having it taken and used against them. If he had a gun in the door pocket one shot may not be enough to stop him shooting back. They gave him plenty of chances for a better outcome, he didnt take them. | |||
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"twisted & mellofella YOU SHOULD HANG YOUR HEADS IN SHAME - SHAME ON YOU FOR DEFENDING THIS. " Read what I put I’ve not defended anything. It’s your failure to objectively look at what I have written. Don’t put me in with that. | |||
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"twisted & mellofella YOU SHOULD HANG YOUR HEADS IN SHAME - SHAME ON YOU FOR DEFENDING THIS. Read what I put I’ve not defended anything. It’s your failure to objectively look at what I have written. Don’t put me in with that. " Too late, you didnt toe the line. Now the mob are out for blood...  | |||
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"Fuck it... I am going to do it now Okay... a few things need to be corrected from mellows allegations..... 1) Jacob brooks does NOT have a criminal record..... repeat NOT have a criminal record 2) he did have an outstanding arrest warrant for 3rd degree sexual assault, trespass and disorderly conduct... that stems from an incident last month 3) under Wisconsin state law, 3rd degree sexual assault is defined as “touching someone sexually without consent” what that is NOT is the 4 letter word beginning with R that is banned here.... it is also NOT penertration of any sort... with anything! So if for example I grabbed a boob, that is 3rd degree sexual assault, if I grabbed or slapped your arse, that is 3rd degree assault or if I did what trump likes to do in the access Hollywood tape... that is 3rd degree sexual assault 4) you know that whole “innocent until proven guilty thing”.... that.... therefore refer back to point 1... 5) if he was really that much of a danger why let him walk all the way around the car, when he is in front of you all the time, to then let him turn around, to then shoot him 7 times in the back from point blank range 6) refer back to 1 So he does have a criminal record then. The cops kept their distance from a man that said he had a knife, understandable. Cops dont physically engage when they have their guns drawn as they risk having it taken and used against them. If he had a gun in the door pocket one shot may not be enough to stop him shooting back. They gave him plenty of chances for a better outcome, he didnt take them." Dear lord what part of no criminal record do you not understand No he doesn’t have a criminal record until he is convicted of a crime.... this charges have not been brought up against a judge or jury! He has not had any other criminal charges brought up against him in the past so these would be his first offences .... they may even be pleaded Down! What he has been charged with are considered misdemeanours and not felonies! All of these if if ifs you use are meaningless because they didn’t happen! He shot him 7 times in the back, you don’t shoot someone on a presumption | |||
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"Fuck it... I am going to do it now Okay... a few things need to be corrected from mellows allegations..... 1) Jacob brooks does NOT have a criminal record..... repeat NOT have a criminal record 2) he did have an outstanding arrest warrant for 3rd degree sexual assault, trespass and disorderly conduct... that stems from an incident last month 3) under Wisconsin state law, 3rd degree sexual assault is defined as “touching someone sexually without consent” what that is NOT is the 4 letter word beginning with R that is banned here.... it is also NOT penertration of any sort... with anything! So if for example I grabbed a boob, that is 3rd degree sexual assault, if I grabbed or slapped your arse, that is 3rd degree assault or if I did what trump likes to do in the access Hollywood tape... that is 3rd degree sexual assault 4) you know that whole “innocent until proven guilty thing”.... that.... therefore refer back to point 1... 5) if he was really that much of a danger why let him walk all the way around the car, when he is in front of you all the time, to then let him turn around, to then shoot him 7 times in the back from point blank range 6) refer back to 1 So he does have a criminal record then. The cops kept their distance from a man that said he had a knife, understandable. Cops dont physically engage when they have their guns drawn as they risk having it taken and used against them. If he had a gun in the door pocket one shot may not be enough to stop him shooting back. They gave him plenty of chances for a better outcome, he didnt take them. Dear lord what part of no criminal record do you not understand No he doesn’t have a criminal record until he is convicted of a crime.... this charges have not been brought up against a judge or jury! He has not had any other criminal charges brought up against him in the past so these would be his first offences .... they may even be pleaded Down! What he has been charged with are considered misdemeanours and not felonies! All of these if if ifs you use are meaningless because they didn’t happen! He shot him 7 times in the back, you don’t shoot someone on a presumption " From the american bar association regarding police shooting suspects- "Four years later in Graham v. Connor, the court held that the question of whether an officer used excessive force “requires careful attention to the facts and circumstances of each particular case, including the severity of the crime at issue, whether the suspect poses an immediate threat to the safety of the officers or others, and whether he is actively resisting arrest or attempting to evade arrest by flight.” The 9-0 decision found the “reasonableness of a particular use of force must be judged from the perspective of a reasonable officer on the scene, and its calculus must embody an allowance for the fact that police officers are often forced to make split-second decisions about the amount of force necessary in a particular situation.”" So, evading arrest (by trying to get to the car), immediate threat (potential gun in door pocket and admitted to having a knife), and endangering life (endangering the kids life in the event of a chase, or just simply using the car as a deadly weapon against the police) I make that a hat trick. And he was definitely guilty of not staying away from the ex partners house that he 'allegedly' sexually assaulted. | |||
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"This thread is starting to become all too similar to the mindset of some these days.......... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-8667833/DOMINIC-SANDBROOK-Washington-DC-diner-tormented-Black-Lives-Matter-mob.html To those whose instant default position is that it cannot be true because it is in The Daily Mail, other sources are available." It’s sad that I commented from a potential legal standpoint and I get named as defending them. There is no objectivity anymore it seems. It shuts down debate on an important issue.  | |||
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"This thread is starting to become all too similar to the mindset of some these days.......... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-8667833/DOMINIC-SANDBROOK-Washington-DC-diner-tormented-Black-Lives-Matter-mob.html To those whose instant default position is that it cannot be true because it is in The Daily Mail, other sources are available." Ok that happening doesn’t help the cause and I’ve already said when someone else has used this to diminish the BLM. What those guys did tormenting that diner is bad & I won’t justify, but using that as excuse to shut down the entire cause of ending racial injustice is pretty lazy. Look all the BLM protests worldwide supporting the cause, some have resulting in rioting but a lot have been peaceful and have United a lot of people from all backgrounds together. | |||
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"This thread is starting to become all too similar to the mindset of some these days.......... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-8667833/DOMINIC-SANDBROOK-Washington-DC-diner-tormented-Black-Lives-Matter-mob.html To those whose instant default position is that it cannot be true because it is in The Daily Mail, other sources are available. Ok that happening doesn’t help the cause and I’ve already said when someone else has used this to diminish the BLM. What those guys did tormenting that diner is bad & I won’t justify, but using that as excuse to shut down the entire cause of ending racial injustice is pretty lazy. Look all the BLM protests worldwide supporting the cause, some have resulting in rioting but a lot have been peaceful and have United a lot of people from all backgrounds together. " The one I went on passed without incident and barely made the paper. | |||
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"This thread is starting to become all too similar to the mindset of some these days.......... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-8667833/DOMINIC-SANDBROOK-Washington-DC-diner-tormented-Black-Lives-Matter-mob.html To those whose instant default position is that it cannot be true because it is in The Daily Mail, other sources are available. Ok that happening doesn’t help the cause and I’ve already said when someone else has used this to diminish the BLM. What those guys did tormenting that diner is bad & I won’t justify, but using that as excuse to shut down the entire cause of ending racial injustice is pretty lazy. Look all the BLM protests worldwide supporting the cause, some have resulting in rioting but a lot have been peaceful and have United a lot of people from all backgrounds together. " How many incidents will it take? | |||
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"Apparently armed militia going round with police helping them. And we as a country wanna be closer to them? sure the Americans could say same about the U.K. is any country perfect apart from the EU that is what yr getting at isn’t it lol It's so funny, you go on threads moaning that people are banging on about Brexit and here you are....bringing it up AGAIN!! So so funny " omg how very dare you lol read yr posts over last week you don’t stop mate it’s like you an addiction for you lol | |||
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"okay quick crib notes... Jacob blake.. a unarmed black man, gets shot 7 times in the back by a white police officer... blake lucky to survive, but looks like he may now be paralysed from the waist down... policemen placed on desk duty, not charged cue, fury, a la george floyd murder.... part of town go up in protests which turn nasty... on night 2 of protests, 2 protesters are shot dead... it looks like it was done by someone from a "far right militia" who crossed state lines (from illinois to wisconsin) to do this, it also looks like police did noting to stop him.. not only that they gave him bottles of water.... police arrested a 17yr old back in illinois... cue where were are now..... and this is where is gets really awkward buzzfeed are publishing pictures of said 17 yr old kid, in the front row of a trump rally earlier on in the year (pre covid) the NBA milwaukee bucks players have boycotted their playoff game this afternoon (irony being 1 of the current players is in the middle of a lawsuit against wisconsin police for an assault by an officer at 2am in the morning outside a 24hr pharmancy, his crime was barking across a handicap bay in am empty car park!) ... this was swiftly followed by the 2 other nba playoff games that were due to happen tonight.... this has now spread into baseball as well You missed a bit. The part where the police where called to a domestic disturbance involving a convicted domestic abuser with an outstanding warrant that isnt supposed to be there (as stated in the police call, likely a restraining order), has taken the womans keys (not yet confirmed if the keys are for the car he tried to enter), had told police he had a knife (which has been been confirmed), has a conviction for assaulting police (and others), resisted arrest, had already been tazered, disobayed orders to stop and tried to either escape in a car with his kids in or get something out of the car, potentially a gun for all the police knew. Not quite the innocent 'victim'. No doubt someone will say that they didnt have to shoot him but thats easy to say when you arent the one putting your own life on the line to deal with it. Police are shot and killed in the blink of an eye. Here is just one example, there are many more - https://news.sky.com/story/glasses-cam-shows-moment-south-carolina-police-officer-shot-in-neck-10983043 Not only that, imagine he had gotten away in the car with 3 kids in the back, there would be outrage for letting them be endangered and them getting hurt in the process doesnt bare thinking about. Long story short, don't break the law and when a cop with a gun tells you to stop, stop. So I’ll add to that part. There were no additional weapons in the car (That’s been confirmed) Yes comply with police officers and if you don’t there should be consequences, but to justify him being shot 7 times with his back turned with his children in close range is ridiculous. There are plenty of times where police have killed individuals who have complied with their orders as well. The police put their lives on the line everyday and I won’t take that away from them but they are trained to deal with these situations & to neutralise threats. If the police get scared and their instinct is to just start shooting then something is wrong. Do you really think he would’ve gotten away had he not been shot 7 times? The officer had no fear when grabbing his vest as he kept shooting him. If resisting arrest & breaking law means you should be killed instantly, then a lot of people should be dead if thats the theory you want to go by. Because there are plenty of instances where people have resisted arrest to the point of where they have assaulted the police, even shot at the police (Which isn’t right) and still lived to tell the tale without being shot. Unfortunately, you will always get people who won't admit what is happening. They won't openly say it's ok for a black man to be shot in the back 7 times, I kinda wish they would. At least you would know their true position then. " when have you ever read a post we’re you would think someone thinks that is ok I don’t think any normal person thinks a black man been shot 7 times is ok they would have to be sick in the head ffs | |||
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"Nelson Mandela " No one is born hating another person because of the color of their skin, or background, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to love, for love comes naturally to the human heart than its opposite "" Any explanation as to where in the thread I was defending them yet? | |||
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"At the end of the day in the long run you don’t remember the words of your enemy and the foolish , you remember the silence of your friends Oh.... one last parting shot........ not every thread revolves around brexit, so how dare people think it’s all about them" think it was Bella and jack who mentioned the word Brexit first on here Fabio | |||
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"It looks like there is another 100% discount sale happening in America for new TVs and sportswear It is funny then there is all this outrage when a black guy gets shot, but other races dont matter. Face it, he did not comply, he got shot, the officers will not be charged and they shouldnt be. Case closed" And they thought robocop was a satire. | |||
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"It looks like there is another 100% discount sale happening in America for new TVs and sportswear It is funny then there is all this outrage when a black guy gets shot, but other races dont matter. Face it, he did not comply, he got shot, the officers will not be charged and they shouldnt be. Case closed" wtf shouldn’t be charged they should get life | |||
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"It looks like there is another 100% discount sale happening in America for new TVs and sportswear It is funny then there is all this outrage when a black guy gets shot, but other races dont matter. Face it, he did not comply, he got shot, the officers will not be charged and they shouldnt be. Case closed" Other races do matter, who said they don’t? Has one person said “Only black lives matter” No not case closed, because they did the wrong thing. In your train of thought if someone doesn’t comply with the police they should be shot on sight then. It’s not funny at all, do you see anyone finding this funny. | |||
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"It looks like there is another 100% discount sale happening in America for new TVs and sportswear It is funny then there is all this outrage when a black guy gets shot, but other races dont matter. Face it, he did not comply, he got shot, the officers will not be charged and they shouldnt be. Case closedwtf shouldn’t be charged they should get life The only reason officer should be charged is because he didnt finish the job now the criminal will sue and get a big payment out of this please please fella go in yr doctors and repeat what you just posted I garrantee you will get the help you need go now before it’s to late "In my country, normal people dont defend the criminals But thats probably a strange thing for you | |||
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"It looks like there is another 100% discount sale happening in America for new TVs and sportswear It is funny then there is all this outrage when a black guy gets shot, but other races dont matter. Face it, he did not comply, he got shot, the officers will not be charged and they shouldnt be. Case closedwtf shouldn’t be charged they should get life The only reason officer should be charged is because he didnt finish the job now the criminal will sue and get a big payment out of this please please fella go in yr doctors and repeat what you just posted I garrantee you will get the help you need go now before it’s to late
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"It looks like there is another 100% discount sale happening in America for new TVs and sportswear It is funny then there is all this outrage when a black guy gets shot, but other races dont matter. Face it, he did not comply, he got shot, the officers will not be charged and they shouldnt be. Case closedwtf shouldn’t be charged they should get life The only reason officer should be charged is because he didnt finish the job now the criminal will sue and get a big payment out of this please please fella go in yr doctors and repeat what you just posted I garrantee you will get the help you need go now before it’s to late
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"It looks like there is another 100% discount sale happening in America for new TVs and sportswear It is funny then there is all this outrage when a black guy gets shot, but other races dont matter. Face it, he did not comply, he got shot, the officers will not be charged and they shouldnt be. Case closedwtf shouldn’t be charged they should get life The only reason officer should be charged is because he didnt finish the job now the criminal will sue and get a big payment out of this please please fella go in yr doctors and repeat what you just posted I garrantee you will get the help you need go now before it’s to late
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"It looks like there is another 100% discount sale happening in America for new TVs and sportswear It is funny then there is all this outrage when a black guy gets shot, but other races dont matter. Face it, he did not comply, he got shot, the officers will not be charged and they shouldnt be. Case closedwtf shouldn’t be charged they should get life The only reason officer should be charged is because he didnt finish the job now the criminal will sue and get a big payment out of this please please fella go in yr doctors and repeat what you just posted I garrantee you will get the help you need go now before it’s to late
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Still waiting to hear this mans criminal record by the way....... can you please tell me what he has been convicted of?"I dunno? Why are you asking me? I never mentioned criminal record. It doesnt matter if we had one. The reason he got 7 bullet holes in his ass is because he did not comply with officers orders. He is in America after all, he shouldnt have played with fire | |||
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Still waiting to hear this mans criminal record by the way....... can you please tell me what he has been convicted of?
I dunno? Why are you asking me? I never mentioned criminal record. It doesnt matter if we had one. The reason he got 7 bullet holes in his ass is because he did not comply with officers orders. He is in America after all, he shouldnt have played with fire "I am asking you because you said "the criminal will get away with a big payment" so again... i am asking you.... what criminal record does he have? | |||
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Still waiting to hear this mans criminal record by the way....... can you please tell me what he has been convicted of?
I dunno? Why are you asking me? I never mentioned criminal record. It doesnt matter if we had one. The reason he got 7 bullet holes in his ass is because he did not comply with officers orders. He is in America after all, he shouldnt have played with fire
I am asking you because you said "the criminal will get away with a big payment"
so again... i am asking you.... what criminal record does he have?"It is funny how you try to play with words. I call a person a criminal who commits a crime, not the one who has a criminal record. By that logic, if someone kills a person and manages to not get caught, is he an innocent man now?Because he doesnt have a criminal record? | |||
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Still waiting to hear this mans criminal record by the way....... can you please tell me what he has been convicted of?
I dunno? Why are you asking me? I never mentioned criminal record. It doesnt matter if we had one. The reason he got 7 bullet holes in his ass is because he did not comply with officers orders. He is in America after all, he shouldnt have played with fire
I am asking you because you said "the criminal will get away with a big payment"
so again... i am asking you.... what criminal record does he have?
It is funny how you try to play with words. I call a person a criminal who commits a crime, not the one who has a criminal record. By that logic, if someone kills a person and manages to not get caught, is he an innocent man now?Because he doesnt have a criminal record?
"so read up of the post that i put up before... actually... i'll save you having to do that! 1) Jacob blake does NOT have a criminal record..... repeat NOT have a criminal record 2) he did have an outstanding arrest warrant for 3rd degree sexual assault, trespass and disorderly conduct... that stems from an incident last month 3) under Wisconsin state law, 3rd degree sexual assault is defined as “touching someone sexually without consent” what that is NOT is the 4 letter word beginning with R that is banned here.... it is also NOT penetration of any sort... with anything! So if for example I grabbed a boob, that is 3rd degree sexual assault, if I grabbed or slapped your arse, that is 3rd degree sexual assault or if I did what trump likes to do in the access Hollywood tape... that is 3rd degree sexual assault 4) you know that whole “innocent until proven guilty thing”.... that.... therefore refer back to point 1... 5) if he was really that much of a danger why let him walk all the way around the car, when he is in front of you all the time, to then let him turn around, to then shoot him 7 times in the back from point blank range 6) refer back to 1 so that is worth 7 shots in the back at point blank range is it? | |||
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"Didnt realise London was in eastern Europe. Just because profile is set to London, it doesnt mean its a fact
Still waiting to hear this mans criminal record by the way....... can you please tell me what he has been convicted of?
I dunno? Why are you asking me? I never mentioned criminal record. It doesnt matter if we had one. The reason he got 7 bullet holes in his ass is because he did not comply with officers orders. He is in America after all, he shouldnt have played with fire
I am asking you because you said "the criminal will get away with a big payment"
so again... i am asking you.... what criminal record does he have?
It is funny how you try to play with words. I call a person a criminal who commits a crime, not the one who has a criminal record. By that logic, if someone kills a person and manages to not get caught, is he an innocent man now?Because he doesnt have a criminal record?
so read up of the post that i put up before... actually... i'll save you having to do that!
1) Jacob blake does NOT have a criminal record..... repeat NOT have a criminal record
2) he did have an outstanding arrest warrant for 3rd degree sexual assault, trespass and disorderly conduct... that stems from an incident last month
3) under Wisconsin state law, 3rd degree sexual assault is defined as “touching someone sexually without consent” what that is NOT is the 4 letter word beginning with R that is banned here.... it is also NOT penetration of any sort... with anything! So if for example I grabbed a boob, that is 3rd degree sexual assault, if I grabbed or slapped your arse, that is 3rd degree sexual assault or if I did what trump likes to do in the access Hollywood tape... that is 3rd degree sexual assault
4) you know that whole “innocent until proven guilty thing”.... that.... therefore refer back to point 1...
5) if he was really that much of a danger why let him walk all the way around the car, when he is in front of you all the time, to then let him turn around, to then shoot him 7 times in the back from point blank range
6) refer back to 1
so that is worth 7 shots in the back at point blank range is it?
"why you keep banging about his criminal record? It doesn't matter. He got shot because he did not comply with officers orders. Do you understand that? If he had the longest criminal record in America and complied with the orders, he would not have been shot. Simple as that | |||
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" why you keep banging about his criminal record? It doesn't matter. He got shot because he did not comply with officers orders. Do you understand that? If he had the longest criminal record in America and complied with the orders, he would not have been shot. Simple as that " because if you call him and criminal... and he isn't.... then people will call you out on it! and you obviously dont read.... because: 5) if he was really that much of a danger why let him walk all the way around the car, when he is in front of you all the time, to then let him turn around, to then shoot him 7 times in the back from point blank range | |||
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" why you keep banging about his criminal record? It doesn't matter. He got shot because he did not comply with officers orders. Do you understand that? If he had the longest criminal record in America and complied with the orders, he would not have been shot. Simple as that because if you call him and criminal... and he isn't.... then people will call you out on it! and you obviously dont read.... because: 5) if he was really that much of a danger why let him walk all the way around the car, when he is in front of you all the time, to then let him turn around, to then shoot him 7 times in the back from point blank range" and again, I call someone a criminal who commits a crime, not by the their criminal record on paper. Why cops waited? Maybe because they did not want to shoot him, but in the end he just carried on reaching into the car? Simple logic? Not all cops are bad, its that simple | |||
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