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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

2,004,000,000,000 debt

More than the uk brought in last year .

Thats 1 hell of an amount of debt .

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By *ackal1Couple  over a year ago

Manchester

We just can’t carry on this way.

If our economy doesn’t grow we can’t keep up with the interest.

Now Covid and Brexit have secured a reduction in our GDP does anyone think the fuckwit and his lying followers have a scooby on how to get us out of this?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"2,004,000,000,000 debt

More than the uk brought in last year .

Thats 1 hell of an amount of debt .

"

I was told my ex's credit card debt would never be made public.... grrrr

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By *uninlondon69Man  over a year ago

Tower Bridge South

It's bizarre how nations can run up such a debt, most of the world owes bilions to someone. And what happens if we don't meet the repayments? You can't send the bailiffs in to reposess Birmingham. How much would we get for the Isle of Wight on Gumtree?

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By *vbride1963TV/TS  over a year ago

E.K . Glasgow


"We just can’t carry on this way.

If our economy doesn’t grow we can’t keep up with the interest.

Now Covid and Brexit have secured a reduction in our GDP does anyone think the fuckwit and his lying followers have a scooby on how to get us out of this?

"

I’m pretty sure Wonga has gone out of business maybe there’s others out there ?

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By *ebbie69Couple  over a year ago

milton keynes


"We just can’t carry on this way.

If our economy doesn’t grow we can’t keep up with the interest.

Now Covid and Brexit have secured a reduction in our GDP does anyone think the fuckwit and his lying followers have a scooby on how to get us out of this?

"

It's an eye watering figure indeed but had to be done. I suspect there will be some sort of tax rises when the economy can stand it. I read the other day on the BBC that the interest payments on the debt is actually lower than just before the lockdown due to such low interest rates. I think the chancellor will want to make inroads into the debt before rates rise again

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By *avey PMan  over a year ago

Newcastle Upon Tyne

Its an artificial nonsense in many ways. After all money and debt are abstract constructs. Those who have money are very keen for it to maintain it's value. Unfortunately inflation means living standards can't continue to rise without some sort of hit to the wealthy.

Soo what better way to justify lowering living standards than to create a massive 'problem' (debt) to justify lowering those standards.

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By *ackal1Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"Its an artificial nonsense in many ways. After all money and debt are abstract constructs. Those who have money are very keen for it to maintain it's value. Unfortunately inflation means living standards can't continue to rise without some sort of hit to the wealthy.

Soo what better way to justify lowering living standards than to create a massive 'problem' (debt) to justify lowering those standards. "

Try telling your mortgage provider that the debt you owe them is just abstract and see how far you get!!

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By *mmabluTV/TS  over a year ago

upton wirral

At the moment everybody loves Sunak but this will soon change when taxes go up,fulough stops,pensions frozen for a couple of years etc.

It will have to be paid back.

Sunak is being pragmatic he knows things must change and recession must happen it will be cruel and deep make no mistake

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By *ackal1Couple  over a year ago

Manchester

Bet there’s no cutbacks in the number of MP’s or Lords. We could save a few quid having a cull.

Long overdue with the lords!

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By *mmabluTV/TS  over a year ago

upton wirral


"Bet there’s no cutbacks in the number of MP’s or Lords. We could save a few quid having a cull.

Long overdue with the lords! "

Peanuts

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By *ackal1Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"Bet there’s no cutbacks in the number of MP’s or Lords. We could save a few quid having a cull.

Long overdue with the lords! Peanuts"

Bet you can’t afford those peanuts!!!

Dry roasted or salted.

It would also be a symbol of unity as we all take the inevitable pain that’s is coming .

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"Bet there’s no cutbacks in the number of MP’s or Lords. We could save a few quid having a cull.

Long overdue with the lords! "

Maybe go after that uncollected tax from the likes of Amazon?

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By *ebbie69Couple  over a year ago

milton keynes


"Bet there’s no cutbacks in the number of MP’s or Lords. We could save a few quid having a cull.

Long overdue with the lords!

Maybe go after that uncollected tax from the likes of Amazon?"

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By *ackal1Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"Bet there’s no cutbacks in the number of MP’s or Lords. We could save a few quid having a cull.

Long overdue with the lords!

Maybe go after that uncollected tax from the likes of Amazon?"

Agree but all world governments have to agree to that as these companies just run away each time otherwise.

Ireland is now No. 7 in the richest country list due to Amazon and Google being registered there.

The E.U. was going after both companies and individuals not paying their fair share of tax throughout Europe . Can’t imagine why Boris and his wealthy backers aren’t keen on that!!

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"Bet there’s no cutbacks in the number of MP’s or Lords. We could save a few quid having a cull.

Long overdue with the lords!

Maybe go after that uncollected tax from the likes of Amazon?

Agree but all world governments have to agree to that as these companies just run away each time otherwise.

Ireland is now No. 7 in the richest country list due to Amazon and Google being registered there.

The E.U. was going after both companies and individuals not paying their fair share of tax throughout Europe . Can’t imagine why Boris and his wealthy backers aren’t keen on that!!

"

It's a mystery.

The party who, with a straight face can say .we are all in this together.

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By *ackal1Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"Bet there’s no cutbacks in the number of MP’s or Lords. We could save a few quid having a cull.

Long overdue with the lords!

Maybe go after that uncollected tax from the likes of Amazon?

Agree but all world governments have to agree to that as these companies just run away each time otherwise.

Ireland is now No. 7 in the richest country list due to Amazon and Google being registered there.

The E.U. was going after both companies and individuals not paying their fair share of tax throughout Europe . Can’t imagine why Boris and his wealthy backers aren’t keen on that!!

It's a mystery.

The party who, with a straight face can say .we are all in this together."

Not enough lifeboats on this titanic so we know who’s going to be left behind !!

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By *ebbie69Couple  over a year ago

milton keynes


"Bet there’s no cutbacks in the number of MP’s or Lords. We could save a few quid having a cull.

Long overdue with the lords!

Maybe go after that uncollected tax from the likes of Amazon?

Agree but all world governments have to agree to that as these companies just run away each time otherwise.

Ireland is now No. 7 in the richest country list due to Amazon and Google being registered there.

The E.U. was going after both companies and individuals not paying their fair share of tax throughout Europe . Can’t imagine why Boris and his wealthy backers aren’t keen on that!!

"

If the EU are successful in taxing the likes of Amazon (as they should) at the correct rates will that affect the republic of Ireland as they may move elsewhere

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Bet there’s no cutbacks in the number of MP’s or Lords. We could save a few quid having a cull.

Long overdue with the lords!

Maybe go after that uncollected tax from the likes of Amazon?

Agree but all world governments have to agree to that as these companies just run away each time otherwise.

Ireland is now No. 7 in the richest country list due to Amazon and Google being registered there.

The E.U. was going after both companies and individuals not paying their fair share of tax throughout Europe . Can’t imagine why Boris and his wealthy backers aren’t keen on that!!

If the EU are successful in taxing the likes of Amazon (as they should) at the correct rates will that affect the republic of Ireland as they may move elsewhere"

i would expect them to move there liabilities elsewhere as soon as they get wind there is a chance they will get unfavourable treatment. Am sure Google would do they same too.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Think it would easier to get blood from a stone than get the correct rates of tax from any of them, as much as I wish this wasn't the case.

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By *ackal1Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"Bet there’s no cutbacks in the number of MP’s or Lords. We could save a few quid having a cull.

Long overdue with the lords!

Maybe go after that uncollected tax from the likes of Amazon?

Agree but all world governments have to agree to that as these companies just run away each time otherwise.

Ireland is now No. 7 in the richest country list due to Amazon and Google being registered there.

The E.U. was going after both companies and individuals not paying their fair share of tax throughout Europe . Can’t imagine why Boris and his wealthy backers aren’t keen on that!!

If the EU are successful in taxing the likes of Amazon (as they should) at the correct rates will that affect the republic of Ireland as they may move elsewhere i would expect them to move there liabilities elsewhere as soon as they get wind there is a chance they will get unfavourable treatment. Am sure Google would do they same too."

The E.U. plan was tax on sales in the EU and specific to each country so for example Starbucks takes hundreds of millions in tne U.K. but pays virtually no tax apart from a goodwill gesture .

The E.U. plan was they would be taxed on their trading in the U.K. and the U.K. would get that tax.

Big business is not happy and strangely The daily mail doesn’t pay tax in the U.K.

It doesn’t take to much to work out who’s side the mail will be on!

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"Bet there’s no cutbacks in the number of MP’s or Lords. We could save a few quid having a cull.

Long overdue with the lords!

Maybe go after that uncollected tax from the likes of Amazon?

Agree but all world governments have to agree to that as these companies just run away each time otherwise.

Ireland is now No. 7 in the richest country list due to Amazon and Google being registered there.

The E.U. was going after both companies and individuals not paying their fair share of tax throughout Europe . Can’t imagine why Boris and his wealthy backers aren’t keen on that!!

If the EU are successful in taxing the likes of Amazon (as they should) at the correct rates will that affect the republic of Ireland as they may move elsewhere i would expect them to move there liabilities elsewhere as soon as they get wind there is a chance they will get unfavourable treatment. Am sure Google would do they same too."

When you say unfavourable treatment.. you mean to pay what they actually owe?

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"Bet there’s no cutbacks in the number of MP’s or Lords. We could save a few quid having a cull.

Long overdue with the lords!

Maybe go after that uncollected tax from the likes of Amazon?

Agree but all world governments have to agree to that as these companies just run away each time otherwise.

Ireland is now No. 7 in the richest country list due to Amazon and Google being registered there.

The E.U. was going after both companies and individuals not paying their fair share of tax throughout Europe . Can’t imagine why Boris and his wealthy backers aren’t keen on that!!

If the EU are successful in taxing the likes of Amazon (as they should) at the correct rates will that affect the republic of Ireland as they may move elsewhere"

It's an argument that's commonly used.

They will take their business elsewhere..but how can Starbucks for example.. Make their money here..if they move all their coffee shops abroad.

It's the same argument about taxing the well off..well if you do that they will move abroad..the likes of that top shop owner pays hardly tax aid Is (and the Tories hired him as an economic advisor)

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By *ebbie69Couple  over a year ago

milton keynes


"Bet there’s no cutbacks in the number of MP’s or Lords. We could save a few quid having a cull.

Long overdue with the lords!

Maybe go after that uncollected tax from the likes of Amazon?

Agree but all world governments have to agree to that as these companies just run away each time otherwise.

Ireland is now No. 7 in the richest country list due to Amazon and Google being registered there.

The E.U. was going after both companies and individuals not paying their fair share of tax throughout Europe . Can’t imagine why Boris and his wealthy backers aren’t keen on that!!

If the EU are successful in taxing the likes of Amazon (as they should) at the correct rates will that affect the republic of Ireland as they may move elsewhere i would expect them to move there liabilities elsewhere as soon as they get wind there is a chance they will get unfavourable treatment. Am sure Google would do they same too.

The E.U. plan was tax on sales in the EU and specific to each country so for example Starbucks takes hundreds of millions in tne U.K. but pays virtually no tax apart from a goodwill gesture .

The E.U. plan was they would be taxed on their trading in the U.K. and the U.K. would get that tax.

Big business is not happy and strangely The daily mail doesn’t pay tax in the U.K.

It doesn’t take to much to work out who’s side the mail will be on!

"

Are they implementing this plan soon

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By *ebbie69Couple  over a year ago

milton keynes


"Bet there’s no cutbacks in the number of MP’s or Lords. We could save a few quid having a cull.

Long overdue with the lords!

Maybe go after that uncollected tax from the likes of Amazon?

Agree but all world governments have to agree to that as these companies just run away each time otherwise.

Ireland is now No. 7 in the richest country list due to Amazon and Google being registered there.

The E.U. was going after both companies and individuals not paying their fair share of tax throughout Europe . Can’t imagine why Boris and his wealthy backers aren’t keen on that!!

If the EU are successful in taxing the likes of Amazon (as they should) at the correct rates will that affect the republic of Ireland as they may move elsewhere

It's an argument that's commonly used.

They will take their business elsewhere..but how can Starbucks for example.. Make their money here..if they move all their coffee shops abroad.

It's the same argument about taxing the well off..well if you do that they will move abroad..the likes of that top shop owner pays hardly tax aid Is (and the Tories hired him as an economic advisor)"

My understanding (limited I grant) is at present the tax is not paid where the sale is made its paid at where the company are registered. In this case Ireland. The sales will still continue

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Bet there’s no cutbacks in the number of MP’s or Lords. We could save a few quid having a cull.

Long overdue with the lords!

Maybe go after that uncollected tax from the likes of Amazon?

Agree but all world governments have to agree to that as these companies just run away each time otherwise.

Ireland is now No. 7 in the richest country list due to Amazon and Google being registered there.

The E.U. was going after both companies and individuals not paying their fair share of tax throughout Europe . Can’t imagine why Boris and his wealthy backers aren’t keen on that!!

If the EU are successful in taxing the likes of Amazon (as they should) at the correct rates will that affect the republic of Ireland as they may move elsewhere i would expect them to move there liabilities elsewhere as soon as they get wind there is a chance they will get unfavourable treatment. Am sure Google would do they same too.

When you say unfavourable treatment.. you mean to pay what they actually owe?"

yeah, well to them it would be unfavourable, to rest of us i think we all agree they should pay what they owe and shouldn't be able to get away with what they do, and not just them, plenty of big names all pretty much the same.

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"Bet there’s no cutbacks in the number of MP’s or Lords. We could save a few quid having a cull.

Long overdue with the lords!

Maybe go after that uncollected tax from the likes of Amazon?

Agree but all world governments have to agree to that as these companies just run away each time otherwise.

Ireland is now No. 7 in the richest country list due to Amazon and Google being registered there.

The E.U. was going after both companies and individuals not paying their fair share of tax throughout Europe . Can’t imagine why Boris and his wealthy backers aren’t keen on that!!

If the EU are successful in taxing the likes of Amazon (as they should) at the correct rates will that affect the republic of Ireland as they may move elsewhere

It's an argument that's commonly used.

They will take their business elsewhere..but how can Starbucks for example.. Make their money here..if they move all their coffee shops abroad.

It's the same argument about taxing the well off..well if you do that they will move abroad..the likes of that top shop owner pays hardly tax aid Is (and the Tories hired him as an economic advisor)

My understanding (limited I grant) is at present the tax is not paid where the sale is made its paid at where the company are registered. In this case Ireland. The sales will still continue "

I'm far from an expert on it but if we are all going to get hammered, those individuals and companies who hire an army of accountants, in order to pay as little as possible,,should be held to account.

Still the last politician to advocate that was branded a Marxist .

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By *obka3Couple  over a year ago

bournemouth


"Bet there’s no cutbacks in the number of MP’s or Lords. We could save a few quid having a cull.

Long overdue with the lords!

Maybe go after that uncollected tax from the likes of Amazon?

Agree but all world governments have to agree to that as these companies just run away each time otherwise.

Ireland is now No. 7 in the richest country list due to Amazon and Google being registered there.

The E.U. was going after both companies and individuals not paying their fair share of tax throughout Europe . Can’t imagine why Boris and his wealthy backers aren’t keen on that!!

If the EU are successful in taxing the likes of Amazon (as they should) at the correct rates will that affect the republic of Ireland as they may move elsewhere

It's an argument that's commonly used.

They will take their business elsewhere..but how can Starbucks for example.. Make their money here..if they move all their coffee shops abroad.

It's the same argument about taxing the well off..well if you do that they will move abroad..the likes of that top shop owner pays hardly tax aid Is (and the Tories hired him as an economic advisor)"

Again you are showing that you dont understand how these things work yet you constantly claim that 52 % of voters in the ref were stupid

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"Bet there’s no cutbacks in the number of MP’s or Lords. We could save a few quid having a cull.

Long overdue with the lords!

Maybe go after that uncollected tax from the likes of Amazon?

Agree but all world governments have to agree to that as these companies just run away each time otherwise.

Ireland is now No. 7 in the richest country list due to Amazon and Google being registered there.

The E.U. was going after both companies and individuals not paying their fair share of tax throughout Europe . Can’t imagine why Boris and his wealthy backers aren’t keen on that!!

If the EU are successful in taxing the likes of Amazon (as they should) at the correct rates will that affect the republic of Ireland as they may move elsewhere

It's an argument that's commonly used.

They will take their business elsewhere..but how can Starbucks for example.. Make their money here..if they move all their coffee shops abroad.

It's the same argument about taxing the well off..well if you do that they will move abroad..the likes of that top shop owner pays hardly tax aid Is (and the Tories hired him as an economic advisor)

Again you are showing that you dont understand how these things work yet you constantly claim that 52 % of voters in the ref were stupid "

What dont I understand?

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By *ebbie69Couple  over a year ago

milton keynes


"Bet there’s no cutbacks in the number of MP’s or Lords. We could save a few quid having a cull.

Long overdue with the lords!

Maybe go after that uncollected tax from the likes of Amazon?

Agree but all world governments have to agree to that as these companies just run away each time otherwise.

Ireland is now No. 7 in the richest country list due to Amazon and Google being registered there.

The E.U. was going after both companies and individuals not paying their fair share of tax throughout Europe . Can’t imagine why Boris and his wealthy backers aren’t keen on that!!

If the EU are successful in taxing the likes of Amazon (as they should) at the correct rates will that affect the republic of Ireland as they may move elsewhere

It's an argument that's commonly used.

They will take their business elsewhere..but how can Starbucks for example.. Make their money here..if they move all their coffee shops abroad.

It's the same argument about taxing the well off..well if you do that they will move abroad..the likes of that top shop owner pays hardly tax aid Is (and the Tories hired him as an economic advisor)

My understanding (limited I grant) is at present the tax is not paid where the sale is made its paid at where the company are registered. In this case Ireland. The sales will still continue

I'm far from an expert on it but if we are all going to get hammered, those individuals and companies who hire an army of accountants, in order to pay as little as possible,,should be held to account.

Still the last politician to advocate that was branded a Marxist ."

Not many would complain if the likes of Amazon paid fair tax but I think the rules allow them to register in a tax favourable country and sell where they like. If the EU can change this then a member state in Ireland will be affected negatively so bit of a dilemma

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"Bet there’s no cutbacks in the number of MP’s or Lords. We could save a few quid having a cull.

Long overdue with the lords!

Maybe go after that uncollected tax from the likes of Amazon?

Agree but all world governments have to agree to that as these companies just run away each time otherwise.

Ireland is now No. 7 in the richest country list due to Amazon and Google being registered there.

The E.U. was going after both companies and individuals not paying their fair share of tax throughout Europe . Can’t imagine why Boris and his wealthy backers aren’t keen on that!!

If the EU are successful in taxing the likes of Amazon (as they should) at the correct rates will that affect the republic of Ireland as they may move elsewhere

It's an argument that's commonly used.

They will take their business elsewhere..but how can Starbucks for example.. Make their money here..if they move all their coffee shops abroad.

It's the same argument about taxing the well off..well if you do that they will move abroad..the likes of that top shop owner pays hardly tax aid Is (and the Tories hired him as an economic advisor)

My understanding (limited I grant) is at present the tax is not paid where the sale is made its paid at where the company are registered. In this case Ireland. The sales will still continue

I'm far from an expert on it but if we are all going to get hammered, those individuals and companies who hire an army of accountants, in order to pay as little as possible,,should be held to account.

Still the last politician to advocate that was branded a Marxist .

Not many would complain if the likes of Amazon paid fair tax but I think the rules allow them to register in a tax favourable country and sell where they like. If the EU can change this then a member state in Ireland will be affected negatively so bit of a dilemma"

I did read somewhere the eu where going to try and take a stand against it.

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By *obka3Couple  over a year ago

bournemouth


"

What dont I understand?"

Among other things why Starbucks dont pay bugger all tax here.

Companies and tax is a complicated issue, on the face of it Starbucks, Amazon etc should be paying far more, but as labour found with their 50% top rate sometimes the obvious doesnt work.

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"

What dont I understand?

Among other things why Starbucks dont pay bugger all tax here.

Companies and tax is a complicated issue, on the face of it Starbucks, Amazon etc should be paying far more, but as labour found with their 50% top rate sometimes the obvious doesnt work."

So they should be paying more tax?

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By *ebbie69Couple  over a year ago

milton keynes


"Bet there’s no cutbacks in the number of MP’s or Lords. We could save a few quid having a cull.

Long overdue with the lords!

Maybe go after that uncollected tax from the likes of Amazon?

Agree but all world governments have to agree to that as these companies just run away each time otherwise.

Ireland is now No. 7 in the richest country list due to Amazon and Google being registered there.

The E.U. was going after both companies and individuals not paying their fair share of tax throughout Europe . Can’t imagine why Boris and his wealthy backers aren’t keen on that!!

If the EU are successful in taxing the likes of Amazon (as they should) at the correct rates will that affect the republic of Ireland as they may move elsewhere

It's an argument that's commonly used.

They will take their business elsewhere..but how can Starbucks for example.. Make their money here..if they move all their coffee shops abroad.

It's the same argument about taxing the well off..well if you do that they will move abroad..the likes of that top shop owner pays hardly tax aid Is (and the Tories hired him as an economic advisor)

My understanding (limited I grant) is at present the tax is not paid where the sale is made its paid at where the company are registered. In this case Ireland. The sales will still continue

I'm far from an expert on it but if we are all going to get hammered, those individuals and companies who hire an army of accountants, in order to pay as little as possible,,should be held to account.

Still the last politician to advocate that was branded a Marxist .

Not many would complain if the likes of Amazon paid fair tax but I think the rules allow them to register in a tax favourable country and sell where they like. If the EU can change this then a member state in Ireland will be affected negatively so bit of a dilemma

I did read somewhere the eu where going to try and take a stand against it."

Yes further up this thread it was mentioned. So far nothing done. Hence why I say its a bit of a dilemma for the EU as Ireland stand to loose out if its changed

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By *obka3Couple  over a year ago

bournemouth


"

What dont I understand?

Among other things why Starbucks dont pay bugger all tax here.

Companies and tax is a complicated issue, on the face of it Starbucks, Amazon etc should be paying far more, but as labour found with their 50% top rate sometimes the obvious doesnt work.

So they should be paying more tax?"

Do some research and think for yourself

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"

What dont I understand?

Among other things why Starbucks dont pay bugger all tax here.

Companies and tax is a complicated issue, on the face of it Starbucks, Amazon etc should be paying far more, but as labour found with their 50% top rate sometimes the obvious doesnt work.

So they should be paying more tax?

Do some research and think for yourself"

I'll take that as a yes.

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By *obka3Couple  over a year ago

bournemouth


"

What dont I understand?

Among other things why Starbucks dont pay bugger all tax here.

Companies and tax is a complicated issue, on the face of it Starbucks, Amazon etc should be paying far more, but as labour found with their 50% top rate sometimes the obvious doesnt work.

So they should be paying more tax?

Do some research and think for yourself

I'll take that as a yes."

See yet again you miss the point and fail use your brain to do the work to THINK about the best way to maximise government tax income, instead you make another half arsed quip, no doubt another will follow this post.

If you want to have an adult discussion about tax issues and companies then act like one and do some research and then put some thoughts out

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By *ackal1Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"

What dont I understand?

Among other things why Starbucks dont pay bugger all tax here.

Companies and tax is a complicated issue, on the face of it Starbucks, Amazon etc should be paying far more, but as labour found with their 50% top rate sometimes the obvious doesnt work.

So they should be paying more tax?

Do some research and think for yourself

I'll take that as a yes.

See yet again you miss the point and fail use your brain to do the work to THINK about the best way to maximise government tax income, instead you make another half arsed quip, no doubt another will follow this post.

If you want to have an adult discussion about tax issues and companies then act like one and do some research and then put some thoughts out"

Curious to hear your knowledge and plans??

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By *mmabluTV/TS  over a year ago

upton wirral


"Bet there’s no cutbacks in the number of MP’s or Lords. We could save a few quid having a cull.

Long overdue with the lords!

Maybe go after that uncollected tax from the likes of Amazon?"

Agree but it is not easy and will take years

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By *ackal1Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"Bet there’s no cutbacks in the number of MP’s or Lords. We could save a few quid having a cull.

Long overdue with the lords!

Maybe go after that uncollected tax from the likes of Amazon?Agree but it is not easy and will take years"

The EU we’re making a start which is why the mega rich in this country backed Brexit. They knew it was coming and needed an escape plan. How good we’re the British voters to give them one.

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By *ebbie69Couple  over a year ago

milton keynes


"Bet there’s no cutbacks in the number of MP’s or Lords. We could save a few quid having a cull.

Long overdue with the lords!

Maybe go after that uncollected tax from the likes of Amazon?Agree but it is not easy and will take years

The EU we’re making a start which is why the mega rich in this country backed Brexit. They knew it was coming and needed an escape plan. How good we’re the British voters to give them one. "

If they succeed what will happen to the likes of Amazon ect?

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By *ackal1Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"Bet there’s no cutbacks in the number of MP’s or Lords. We could save a few quid having a cull.

Long overdue with the lords!

Maybe go after that uncollected tax from the likes of Amazon?Agree but it is not easy and will take years

The EU we’re making a start which is why the mega rich in this country backed Brexit. They knew it was coming and needed an escape plan. How good we’re the British voters to give them one.

If they succeed what will happen to the likes of Amazon ect?"

They will e forced to pay tax in the country if sale and not raise an invoice from one country to another to reduce tax.

Must if the big shopping lines in the world have a registered office in Denmark because they only pay 3% corporation tax ( this is a few years ago so may have changed)

Maersk built an opera house in Copenhagen and donate to various charities in Denmark but the 3% they give to the Danish is such a huge sum the Danish government are very accommodating just like the Irish with Apple.

This is what the E.U. we’re trying to stamp out.

The other side is the tax evasion of rich individuals living in the U.K. and the rest of Europe. The E.U. are going after those to make them pay their fair share.

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"Bet there’s no cutbacks in the number of MP’s or Lords. We could save a few quid having a cull.

Long overdue with the lords!

Maybe go after that uncollected tax from the likes of Amazon?Agree but it is not easy and will take years

The EU we’re making a start which is why the mega rich in this country backed Brexit. They knew it was coming and needed an escape plan. How good we’re the British voters to give them one.

If they succeed what will happen to the likes of Amazon ect?

They will e forced to pay tax in the country if sale and not raise an invoice from one country to another to reduce tax.

Must if the big shopping lines in the world have a registered office in Denmark because they only pay 3% corporation tax ( this is a few years ago so may have changed)

Maersk built an opera house in Copenhagen and donate to various charities in Denmark but the 3% they give to the Danish is such a huge sum the Danish government are very accommodating just like the Irish with Apple.

This is what the E.U. we’re trying to stamp out.

The other side is the tax evasion of rich individuals living in the U.K. and the rest of Europe. The E.U. are going after those to make them pay their fair share.

"

Like sir phillip green?

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By *ebbie69Couple  over a year ago

milton keynes


"Bet there’s no cutbacks in the number of MP’s or Lords. We could save a few quid having a cull.

Long overdue with the lords!

Maybe go after that uncollected tax from the likes of Amazon?Agree but it is not easy and will take years

The EU we’re making a start which is why the mega rich in this country backed Brexit. They knew it was coming and needed an escape plan. How good we’re the British voters to give them one.

If they succeed what will happen to the likes of Amazon ect?

They will e forced to pay tax in the country if sale and not raise an invoice from one country to another to reduce tax.

Must if the big shopping lines in the world have a registered office in Denmark because they only pay 3% corporation tax ( this is a few years ago so may have changed)

Maersk built an opera house in Copenhagen and donate to various charities in Denmark but the 3% they give to the Danish is such a huge sum the Danish government are very accommodating just like the Irish with Apple.

This is what the E.U. we’re trying to stamp out.

The other side is the tax evasion of rich individuals living in the U.K. and the rest of Europe. The E.U. are going after those to make them pay their fair share.

"

Sounds a fairer way. Why has it taken them so long. It could make Ireland and Denmark not so attractive in the future and less revenue for them

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By *ackal1Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"Bet there’s no cutbacks in the number of MP’s or Lords. We could save a few quid having a cull.

Long overdue with the lords!

Maybe go after that uncollected tax from the likes of Amazon?Agree but it is not easy and will take years

The EU we’re making a start which is why the mega rich in this country backed Brexit. They knew it was coming and needed an escape plan. How good we’re the British voters to give them one.

If they succeed what will happen to the likes of Amazon ect?

They will e forced to pay tax in the country if sale and not raise an invoice from one country to another to reduce tax.

Must if the big shopping lines in the world have a registered office in Denmark because they only pay 3% corporation tax ( this is a few years ago so may have changed)

Maersk built an opera house in Copenhagen and donate to various charities in Denmark but the 3% they give to the Danish is such a huge sum the Danish government are very accommodating just like the Irish with Apple.

This is what the E.U. we’re trying to stamp out.

The other side is the tax evasion of rich individuals living in the U.K. and the rest of Europe. The E.U. are going after those to make them pay their fair share.

Sounds a fairer way. Why has it taken them so long. It could make Ireland and Denmark not so attractive in the future and less revenue for them"

Yes but if it’s making Ireland look rich on a low tax rate just think how much tax will be paid but Apple , Google etc. across Europe if they pay their full whack!

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By *ackal1Couple  over a year ago

Manchester


"Bet there’s no cutbacks in the number of MP’s or Lords. We could save a few quid having a cull.

Long overdue with the lords!

Maybe go after that uncollected tax from the likes of Amazon?Agree but it is not easy and will take years

The EU we’re making a start which is why the mega rich in this country backed Brexit. They knew it was coming and needed an escape plan. How good we’re the British voters to give them one.

If they succeed what will happen to the likes of Amazon ect?

They will e forced to pay tax in the country if sale and not raise an invoice from one country to another to reduce tax.

Must if the big shopping lines in the world have a registered office in Denmark because they only pay 3% corporation tax ( this is a few years ago so may have changed)

Maersk built an opera house in Copenhagen and donate to various charities in Denmark but the 3% they give to the Danish is such a huge sum the Danish government are very accommodating just like the Irish with Apple.

This is what the E.U. we’re trying to stamp out.

The other side is the tax evasion of rich individuals living in the U.K. and the rest of Europe. The E.U. are going after those to make them pay their fair share.

Like sir phillip green?"

Exactly and also the owners of the large news corporations who own our UK newspapers and tv but pay no UK tax.

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By *ebbie69Couple  over a year ago

milton keynes


"Bet there’s no cutbacks in the number of MP’s or Lords. We could save a few quid having a cull.

Long overdue with the lords!

Maybe go after that uncollected tax from the likes of Amazon?Agree but it is not easy and will take years

The EU we’re making a start which is why the mega rich in this country backed Brexit. They knew it was coming and needed an escape plan. How good we’re the British voters to give them one.

If they succeed what will happen to the likes of Amazon ect?

They will e forced to pay tax in the country if sale and not raise an invoice from one country to another to reduce tax.

Must if the big shopping lines in the world have a registered office in Denmark because they only pay 3% corporation tax ( this is a few years ago so may have changed)

Maersk built an opera house in Copenhagen and donate to various charities in Denmark but the 3% they give to the Danish is such a huge sum the Danish government are very accommodating just like the Irish with Apple.

This is what the E.U. we’re trying to stamp out.

The other side is the tax evasion of rich individuals living in the U.K. and the rest of Europe. The E.U. are going after those to make them pay their fair share.

Sounds a fairer way. Why has it taken them so long. It could make Ireland and Denmark not so attractive in the future and less revenue for them

Yes but if it’s making Ireland look rich on a low tax rate just think how much tax will be paid but Apple , Google etc. across Europe if they pay their full whack! "

As you say if the taxes paid in the country of sale that is fairer though not just Europe. If this happens will they have any reason to stay registered in Ireland anymore

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"Bet there’s no cutbacks in the number of MP’s or Lords. We could save a few quid having a cull.

Long overdue with the lords!

Maybe go after that uncollected tax from the likes of Amazon?Agree but it is not easy and will take years

The EU we’re making a start which is why the mega rich in this country backed Brexit. They knew it was coming and needed an escape plan. How good we’re the British voters to give them one.

If they succeed what will happen to the likes of Amazon ect?

They will e forced to pay tax in the country if sale and not raise an invoice from one country to another to reduce tax.

Must if the big shopping lines in the world have a registered office in Denmark because they only pay 3% corporation tax ( this is a few years ago so may have changed)

Maersk built an opera house in Copenhagen and donate to various charities in Denmark but the 3% they give to the Danish is such a huge sum the Danish government are very accommodating just like the Irish with Apple.

This is what the E.U. we’re trying to stamp out.

The other side is the tax evasion of rich individuals living in the U.K. and the rest of Europe. The E.U. are going after those to make them pay their fair share.

Like sir phillip green?

Exactly and also the owners of the large news corporations who own our UK newspapers and tv but pay no UK tax. "

And were instrumental in us getting out of Europe.

It is heart warming however to know that a millionaire businessman who pays fuck all on tax..treats his employees like shite..is not only knighted but hired by the gmnt as an economic advisor.

Makes you proud it does.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Facebook to pay €106 m8llion euros in back taxes

Seems that individual countries will set there

own tax deals , as the EU couldnt unanimously agree .

So much for the EU setting our laws !!

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By *ebbie69Couple  over a year ago

milton keynes


"Facebook to pay €106 m8llion euros in back taxes

Seems that individual countries will set there

own tax deals , as the EU couldnt unanimously agree .

So much for the EU setting our laws !!

"

Is this the digital tax that happened earlier this year or something different

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By *ercuryMan  over a year ago

Grantham


"Facebook to pay €106 m8llion euros in back taxes

Seems that individual countries will set there

own tax deals , as the EU couldnt unanimously agree .

So much for the EU setting our laws !!

Is this the digital tax that happened earlier this year or something different"

President Macron has come to a deal with Facebook over their version of a digital tax.

It threatened to get messy, with the US threatening to tariff French cheese and wine in retaliation.

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"Facebook to pay €106 m8llion euros in back taxes

Seems that individual countries will set there

own tax deals , as the EU couldnt unanimously agree .

So much for the EU setting our laws !!

Is this the digital tax that happened earlier this year or something different

President Macron has come to a deal with Facebook over their version of a digital tax.

It threatened to get messy, with the US threatening to tariff French cheese and wine in retaliation. "

Yeah remember that..trump was saying we will just have ametican wine

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Facebook to pay €106 m8llion euros in back taxes

Seems that individual countries will set there

own tax deals , as the EU couldnt unanimously agree .

So much for the EU setting our laws !!

Is this the digital tax that happened earlier this year or something different

President Macron has come to a deal with Facebook over their version of a digital tax.

It threatened to get messy, with the US threatening to tariff French cheese and wine in retaliation.

Yeah remember that..trump was saying we will just have ametican wine "

Imagine the free-est country in the world ,

Trying to stop its citizens from eating &

drinking what they want.

Clownsville

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