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"So Mark Zuckerberg is now a Centi Billionaire.
Too much or should people be allowed to make as much money as they can within the realms of the law? "
Assuming as you say its within the law and he pays what ever taxes are due I don't see a problem. Often these people give a lot to charity too |
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"So Mark Zuckerberg is now a Centi Billionaire.
Too much or should people be allowed to make as much money as they can within the realms of the law?
Assuming as you say its within the law and he pays what ever taxes are due I don't see a problem. Often these people give a lot to charity too"
And the employment and services they create |
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over a year ago
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Always look at the conditions that, people who work for these people, work under. Amazon case in point, horrendous stories from there. All for making lots of money, but look after those that help you get rich. |
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I would suggest that it is virtually impossible to become that rich without breaking some rules along the way.
Generally going to be some dodgy accounting and flouting of employment laws in just about back story...
Then once you are big enough, and important enough to the economy/government, along comes corruption. Even if it is "legal" preferential terms for your tax, to encourage you to open business in Ireland for example. |
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By *estivalMan
over a year ago
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"Always look at the conditions that, people who work for these people, work under. Amazon case in point, horrendous stories from there. All for making lots of money, but look after those that help you get rich."
no one has to work for companys like amazon.if there as bad as SOME people say im surprised they have any employes.people do have a thing called choice.dont want to be treated like shit dont work for a companys that treats you like shit.if they were breaking any laws im sure someone would of won a court case by now |
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Maybe the rules should be stricter. Using Amazon as an example, they are great at destroying the high street, but they don’t get charged anywhere near the business rates and Corporation Tax that traditional businesses have to live with. Maybe levelling the playing field would help. Possibly even considering breaking Amazon up as it is having too much of an influence on society. It has happenned before with large monopolistic businesses. |
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"Always look at the conditions that, people who work for these people, work under. Amazon case in point, horrendous stories from there. All for making lots of money, but look after those that help you get rich.
no one has to work for companys like amazon.if there as bad as SOME people say im surprised they have any employes.people do have a thing called choice.dont want to be treated like shit dont work for a companys that treats you like shit.if they were breaking any laws im sure someone would of won a court case by now
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People need to work, sometimes the choice is between the least shit jobs.
Like this one then?
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/may/12/facebook-settlement-mental-health-moderators
30 seconds found it, I am sure there are others. |
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"Always look at the conditions that, people who work for these people, work under. Amazon case in point, horrendous stories from there. All for making lots of money, but look after those that help you get rich.
no one has to work for companys like amazon.if there as bad as SOME people say im surprised they have any employes.people do have a thing called choice.dont want to be treated like shit dont work for a companys that treats you like shit.if they were breaking any laws im sure someone would of won a court case by now"
You realise there are not many jobs about,?
Where there is no union workers have very little right s
Like at Amazon. |
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By *estivalMan
over a year ago
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"Always look at the conditions that, people who work for these people, work under. Amazon case in point, horrendous stories from there. All for making lots of money, but look after those that help you get rich.
no one has to work for companys like amazon.if there as bad as SOME people say im surprised they have any employes.people do have a thing called choice.dont want to be treated like shit dont work for a companys that treats you like shit.if they were breaking any laws im sure someone would of won a court case by now
People need to work, sometimes the choice is between the least shit jobs.
Like this one then?
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/may/12/facebook-settlement-mental-health-moderators
30 seconds found it, I am sure there are others."
you dont need to work in a shit job like i daid everyone has a choice.dont wana do a shit job dont apply gor it.look for something that aint shit.i meen if amazon was that bad to work for where the hell are they getting there thousands of workers from.never done a job where i was treated like shit because i have a choice and i choose not to work for someone who would treat me like shit.simple really |
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"Always look at the conditions that, people who work for these people, work under. Amazon case in point, horrendous stories from there. All for making lots of money, but look after those that help you get rich.
no one has to work for companys like amazon.if there as bad as SOME people say im surprised they have any employes.people do have a thing called choice.dont want to be treated like shit dont work for a companys that treats you like shit.if they were breaking any laws im sure someone would of won a court case by now
People need to work, sometimes the choice is between the least shit jobs.
Like this one then?
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/may/12/facebook-settlement-mental-health-moderators
30 seconds found it, I am sure there are others.
you dont need to work in a shit job like i daid everyone has a choice.dont wana do a shit job dont apply gor it.look for something that aint shit.i meen if amazon was that bad to work for where the hell are they getting there thousands of workers from.never done a job where i was treated like shit because i have a choice and i choose not to work for someone who would treat me like shit.simple really"
What shall I do today.. work for Amazon or be a stockbroker.
Decisions..decisions.. |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"I would suggest that it is virtually impossible to become that rich without breaking some rules along the way.
Generally going to be some dodgy accounting and flouting of employment laws in just about back story...
Then once you are big enough, and important enough to the economy/government, along comes corruption. Even if it is "legal" preferential terms for your tax, to encourage you to open business in Ireland for example."
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"Always look at the conditions that, people who work for these people, work under. Amazon case in point, horrendous stories from there. All for making lots of money, but look after those that help you get rich.
no one has to work for companys like amazon.if there as bad as SOME people say im surprised they have any employes.people do have a thing called choice.dont want to be treated like shit dont work for a companys that treats you like shit.if they were breaking any laws im sure someone would of won a court case by now
People need to work, sometimes the choice is between the least shit jobs.
Like this one then?
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/may/12/facebook-settlement-mental-health-moderators
30 seconds found it, I am sure there are others.
you dont need to work in a shit job like i daid everyone has a choice.dont wana do a shit job dont apply gor it.look for something that aint shit.i meen if amazon was that bad to work for where the hell are they getting there thousands of workers from.never done a job where i was treated like shit because i have a choice and i choose not to work for someone who would treat me like shit.simple really"
Exactly. |
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By *eroy1000Man
over a year ago
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"So Mark Zuckerberg is now a Centi Billionaire.
Too much or should people be allowed to make as much money as they can within the realms of the law?
Assuming as you say its within the law and he pays what ever taxes are due I don't see a problem. Often these people give a lot to charity too
And the employment and services they create "
Very true. I think like others if they obey the laws of the land at the time then welcome it |
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"Always look at the conditions that, people who work for these people, work under. Amazon case in point, horrendous stories from there. All for making lots of money, but look after those that help you get rich.
no one has to work for companys like amazon.if there as bad as SOME people say im surprised they have any employes.people do have a thing called choice.dont want to be treated like shit dont work for a companys that treats you like shit.if they were breaking any laws im sure someone would of won a court case by now
People need to work, sometimes the choice is between the least shit jobs.
Like this one then?
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/may/12/facebook-settlement-mental-health-moderators
30 seconds found it, I am sure there are others.
you dont need to work in a shit job like i daid everyone has a choice.dont wana do a shit job dont apply gor it.look for something that aint shit.i meen if amazon was that bad to work for where the hell are they getting there thousands of workers from.never done a job where i was treated like shit because i have a choice and i choose not to work for someone who would treat me like shit.simple reallyExactly. "
You're really just going to pretend that everyone has the opportunity to do a job they like? No one is forced to do crappy jobs because they need the money?
Cmon, live in the real world at least a little bit.
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"Always look at the conditions that, people who work for these people, work under. Amazon case in point, horrendous stories from there. All for making lots of money, but look after those that help you get rich.
no one has to work for companys like amazon.if there as bad as SOME people say im surprised they have any employes.people do have a thing called choice.dont want to be treated like shit dont work for a companys that treats you like shit.if they were breaking any laws im sure someone would of won a court case by now
People need to work, sometimes the choice is between the least shit jobs.
Like this one then?
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/may/12/facebook-settlement-mental-health-moderators
30 seconds found it, I am sure there are others.
you dont need to work in a shit job like i daid everyone has a choice.dont wana do a shit job dont apply gor it.look for something that aint shit.i meen if amazon was that bad to work for where the hell are they getting there thousands of workers from.never done a job where i was treated like shit because i have a choice and i choose not to work for someone who would treat me like shit.simple reallyExactly.
You're really just going to pretend that everyone has the opportunity to do a job they like? No one is forced to do crappy jobs because they need the money?
Cmon, live in the real world at least a little bit.
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Staggering isnt it? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I would suggest that it is virtually impossible to become that rich without breaking some rules along the way.
Generally going to be some dodgy accounting and flouting of employment laws in just about back story...
Then once you are big enough, and important enough to the economy/government, along comes corruption. Even if it is "legal" preferential terms for your tax, to encourage you to open business in Ireland for example."
Yes we are rammed full with Russian Oligarchs here in Ireland
Not
The UK offers far more imaginative ways of avoiding tax as an individual or corporation than Ireland |
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"Always look at the conditions that, people who work for these people, work under. Amazon case in point, horrendous stories from there. All for making lots of money, but look after those that help you get rich.
no one has to work for companys like amazon.if there as bad as SOME people say im surprised they have any employes.people do have a thing called choice.dont want to be treated like shit dont work for a companys that treats you like shit.if they were breaking any laws im sure someone would of won a court case by now
People need to work, sometimes the choice is between the least shit jobs.
Like this one then?
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/may/12/facebook-settlement-mental-health-moderators
30 seconds found it, I am sure there are others.
you dont need to work in a shit job like i daid everyone has a choice.dont wana do a shit job dont apply gor it.look for something that aint shit.i meen if amazon was that bad to work for where the hell are they getting there thousands of workers from.never done a job where i was treated like shit because i have a choice and i choose not to work for someone who would treat me like shit.simple reallyExactly.
You're really just going to pretend that everyone has the opportunity to do a job they like? No one is forced to do crappy jobs because they need the money?
Cmon, live in the real world at least a little bit.
"
Yeah, I think some are away with the fairies on here at times. If life were that simple eh?? |
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"I would suggest that it is virtually impossible to become that rich without breaking some rules along the way.
Generally going to be some dodgy accounting and flouting of employment laws in just about back story...
Then once you are big enough, and important enough to the economy/government, along comes corruption. Even if it is "legal" preferential terms for your tax, to encourage you to open business in Ireland for example.
Yes we are rammed full with Russian Oligarchs here in Ireland
Not
The UK offers far more imaginative ways of avoiding tax as an individual or corporation than Ireland
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Number one on the list...
https://www.thinkbusiness.ie/articles/moving-business-to-ireland/ |
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By *eroy1000Man
over a year ago
milton keynes |
"Who's going to break up Amazon FFS.
They're not a British company!
Maybe if they just paid the right amount of tax?
That would be a start."
Something to do with processing the sales through Luxembourg helps them avoid tax. About time that was stopped |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I'd have nothing against people being so rich if they paid their taxes in full and paid their workers fairly. Strangely, the super rich never seem to pay up. |
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"I'd have nothing against people being so rich if they paid their taxes in full and paid their workers fairly. Strangely, the super rich never seem to pay up."
The annoying thing is many think these people have "worked hard" for these fortunes. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'd have nothing against people being so rich if they paid their taxes in full and paid their workers fairly. Strangely, the super rich never seem to pay up.
The annoying thing is many think these people have "worked hard" for these fortunes."
It's an insidious lie. You too could be this rich if you worked hard enough!
(It ignores the fact that many of the super rich become that way from inheritance/connections/laws that favour them. They don't have to work at all.) |
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By *ebbie69Couple
over a year ago
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If they operate within the law I don't have a problem with it. I have more of a problem with places that have rubbish laws or don't enforce them. It's true some are born into it but some do work very hard and take big risks on their journey |
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"If they operate within the law I don't have a problem with it. I have more of a problem with places that have rubbish laws or don't enforce them. It's true some are born into it but some do work very hard and take big risks on their journey"
Do we have rubbish laws in this area? Do we enforce our laws? I'm curious what you think. |
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By *ebbie69Couple
over a year ago
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"If they operate within the law I don't have a problem with it. I have more of a problem with places that have rubbish laws or don't enforce them. It's true some are born into it but some do work very hard and take big risks on their journey
Do we have rubbish laws in this area? Do we enforce our laws? I'm curious what you think."
Not restricted to the uk but as I say if they work within the law I don't have a problem. If the laws are too weak or do not protect people enough that needs to be changed in law and enforced |
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"If they operate within the law I don't have a problem with it. I have more of a problem with places that have rubbish laws or don't enforce them. It's true some are born into it but some do work very hard and take big risks on their journey
Do we have rubbish laws in this area? Do we enforce our laws? I'm curious what you think.
Not restricted to the uk but as I say if they work within the law I don't have a problem. If the laws are too weak or do not protect people enough that needs to be changed in law and enforced"
And do you think the laws are good enough and enforced enough in the UK? |
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By *ebbie69Couple
over a year ago
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"If they operate within the law I don't have a problem with it. I have more of a problem with places that have rubbish laws or don't enforce them. It's true some are born into it but some do work very hard and take big risks on their journey
Do we have rubbish laws in this area? Do we enforce our laws? I'm curious what you think.
Not restricted to the uk but as I say if they work within the law I don't have a problem. If the laws are too weak or do not protect people enough that needs to be changed in law and enforced
And do you think the laws are good enough and enforced enough in the UK?"
I'm not an expert or have any real deep knowledge of the laws so can't help you. If they turn out to be not fit for purpose I hope that is addressed |
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"If they operate within the law I don't have a problem with it. I have more of a problem with places that have rubbish laws or don't enforce them. It's true some are born into it but some do work very hard and take big risks on their journey
Do we have rubbish laws in this area? Do we enforce our laws? I'm curious what you think.
Not restricted to the uk but as I say if they work within the law I don't have a problem. If the laws are too weak or do not protect people enough that needs to be changed in law and enforced
And do you think the laws are good enough and enforced enough in the UK?
I'm not an expert or have any real deep knowledge of the laws so can't help you. If they turn out to be not fit for purpose I hope that is addressed"
Here's an example for you. In the UK, Google UK Ltd posted revenue of £1.6bn for the year to 30 June 2019. They paid corporation tax of £44.3m. Corporation tax for that year was 19%. They paid under 3%. Does that seem right or fair? |
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By *ebbie69Couple
over a year ago
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"If they operate within the law I don't have a problem with it. I have more of a problem with places that have rubbish laws or don't enforce them. It's true some are born into it but some do work very hard and take big risks on their journey
Do we have rubbish laws in this area? Do we enforce our laws? I'm curious what you think.
Not restricted to the uk but as I say if they work within the law I don't have a problem. If the laws are too weak or do not protect people enough that needs to be changed in law and enforced
And do you think the laws are good enough and enforced enough in the UK?
I'm not an expert or have any real deep knowledge of the laws so can't help you. If they turn out to be not fit for purpose I hope that is addressed
Here's an example for you. In the UK, Google UK Ltd posted revenue of £1.6bn for the year to 30 June 2019. They paid corporation tax of £44.3m. Corporation tax for that year was 19%. They paid under 3%. Does that seem right or fair?"
No it does not and I have said so in the past. What makes you think I am ok with it. I said they need to work within the law |
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"If they operate within the law I don't have a problem with it. I have more of a problem with places that have rubbish laws or don't enforce them. It's true some are born into it but some do work very hard and take big risks on their journey
Do we have rubbish laws in this area? Do we enforce our laws? I'm curious what you think.
Not restricted to the uk but as I say if they work within the law I don't have a problem. If the laws are too weak or do not protect people enough that needs to be changed in law and enforced
And do you think the laws are good enough and enforced enough in the UK?
I'm not an expert or have any real deep knowledge of the laws so can't help you. If they turn out to be not fit for purpose I hope that is addressed
Here's an example for you. In the UK, Google UK Ltd posted revenue of £1.6bn for the year to 30 June 2019. They paid corporation tax of £44.3m. Corporation tax for that year was 19%. They paid under 3%. Does that seem right or fair?
No it does not and I have said so in the past. What makes you think I am ok with it. I said they need to work within the law"
I was just showing you an example since you seemed unsure of details. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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It's within the law for these multi-billion pound companies to pay almost no corp tax in the UK. A small struggling business pays more corp tax than Amazon.
Just because a company is operating within the law doesn't mean it's in the right. |
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By *ebbie69Couple
over a year ago
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"If they operate within the law I don't have a problem with it. I have more of a problem with places that have rubbish laws or don't enforce them. It's true some are born into it but some do work very hard and take big risks on their journey
Do we have rubbish laws in this area? Do we enforce our laws? I'm curious what you think.
Not restricted to the uk but as I say if they work within the law I don't have a problem. If the laws are too weak or do not protect people enough that needs to be changed in law and enforced
And do you think the laws are good enough and enforced enough in the UK?
I'm not an expert or have any real deep knowledge of the laws so can't help you. If they turn out to be not fit for purpose I hope that is addressed
Here's an example for you. In the UK, Google UK Ltd posted revenue of £1.6bn for the year to 30 June 2019. They paid corporation tax of £44.3m. Corporation tax for that year was 19%. They paid under 3%. Does that seem right or fair?
No it does not and I have said so in the past. What makes you think I am ok with it. I said they need to work within the law
I was just showing you an example since you seemed unsure of details. "
I am unsure of employment and tax laws for sure. If you look I never once said the laws are good in fact I said if they allow such actions they should be changed. If the people who own these companies work within the law I have no problem as they are working to the rules |
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"If they operate within the law I don't have a problem with it. I have more of a problem with places that have rubbish laws or don't enforce them. It's true some are born into it but some do work very hard and take big risks on their journey
Do we have rubbish laws in this area? Do we enforce our laws? I'm curious what you think.
Not restricted to the uk but as I say if they work within the law I don't have a problem. If the laws are too weak or do not protect people enough that needs to be changed in law and enforced
And do you think the laws are good enough and enforced enough in the UK?
I'm not an expert or have any real deep knowledge of the laws so can't help you. If they turn out to be not fit for purpose I hope that is addressed
Here's an example for you. In the UK, Google UK Ltd posted revenue of £1.6bn for the year to 30 June 2019. They paid corporation tax of £44.3m. Corporation tax for that year was 19%. They paid under 3%. Does that seem right or fair?
No it does not and I have said so in the past. What makes you think I am ok with it. I said they need to work within the law
I was just showing you an example since you seemed unsure of details.
I am unsure of employment and tax laws for sure. If you look I never once said the laws are good in fact I said if they allow such actions they should be changed. If the people who own these companies work within the law I have no problem as they are working to the rules"
I just asked your opinion and provided facts. |
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By *ebbie69Couple
over a year ago
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"If they operate within the law I don't have a problem with it. I have more of a problem with places that have rubbish laws or don't enforce them. It's true some are born into it but some do work very hard and take big risks on their journey
Do we have rubbish laws in this area? Do we enforce our laws? I'm curious what you think.
Not restricted to the uk but as I say if they work within the law I don't have a problem. If the laws are too weak or do not protect people enough that needs to be changed in law and enforced
And do you think the laws are good enough and enforced enough in the UK?
I'm not an expert or have any real deep knowledge of the laws so can't help you. If they turn out to be not fit for purpose I hope that is addressed
Here's an example for you. In the UK, Google UK Ltd posted revenue of £1.6bn for the year to 30 June 2019. They paid corporation tax of £44.3m. Corporation tax for that year was 19%. They paid under 3%. Does that seem right or fair?
No it does not and I have said so in the past. What makes you think I am ok with it. I said they need to work within the law
I was just showing you an example since you seemed unsure of details.
I am unsure of employment and tax laws for sure. If you look I never once said the laws are good in fact I said if they allow such actions they should be changed. If the people who own these companies work within the law I have no problem as they are working to the rules
I just asked your opinion and provided facts."
Yes though not sure why when I had already said they need to work in the law. Assuming your example is within the law then the law is in need of examination |
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"If they operate within the law I don't have a problem with it. I have more of a problem with places that have rubbish laws or don't enforce them. It's true some are born into it but some do work very hard and take big risks on their journey
Do we have rubbish laws in this area? Do we enforce our laws? I'm curious what you think.
Not restricted to the uk but as I say if they work within the law I don't have a problem. If the laws are too weak or do not protect people enough that needs to be changed in law and enforced
And do you think the laws are good enough and enforced enough in the UK?
I'm not an expert or have any real deep knowledge of the laws so can't help you. If they turn out to be not fit for purpose I hope that is addressed
Here's an example for you. In the UK, Google UK Ltd posted revenue of £1.6bn for the year to 30 June 2019. They paid corporation tax of £44.3m. Corporation tax for that year was 19%. They paid under 3%. Does that seem right or fair?
No it does not and I have said so in the past. What makes you think I am ok with it. I said they need to work within the law
I was just showing you an example since you seemed unsure of details.
I am unsure of employment and tax laws for sure. If you look I never once said the laws are good in fact I said if they allow such actions they should be changed. If the people who own these companies work within the law I have no problem as they are working to the rules
I just asked your opinion and provided facts.
Yes though not sure why when I had already said they need to work in the law. Assuming your example is within the law then the law is in need of examination"
Because you seemed unsure of detail. As I said above.
I think we may be trapped in an infinite loop here. It could lead to an argument. So I'll stop replying to this. No offence meant. |
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By *ebbie69Couple
over a year ago
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"If they operate within the law I don't have a problem with it. I have more of a problem with places that have rubbish laws or don't enforce them. It's true some are born into it but some do work very hard and take big risks on their journey
Do we have rubbish laws in this area? Do we enforce our laws? I'm curious what you think.
Not restricted to the uk but as I say if they work within the law I don't have a problem. If the laws are too weak or do not protect people enough that needs to be changed in law and enforced
And do you think the laws are good enough and enforced enough in the UK?
I'm not an expert or have any real deep knowledge of the laws so can't help you. If they turn out to be not fit for purpose I hope that is addressed
Here's an example for you. In the UK, Google UK Ltd posted revenue of £1.6bn for the year to 30 June 2019. They paid corporation tax of £44.3m. Corporation tax for that year was 19%. They paid under 3%. Does that seem right or fair?
No it does not and I have said so in the past. What makes you think I am ok with it. I said they need to work within the law
I was just showing you an example since you seemed unsure of details.
I am unsure of employment and tax laws for sure. If you look I never once said the laws are good in fact I said if they allow such actions they should be changed. If the people who own these companies work within the law I have no problem as they are working to the rules
I just asked your opinion and provided facts.
Yes though not sure why when I had already said they need to work in the law. Assuming your example is within the law then the law is in need of examination
Because you seemed unsure of detail. As I said above.
I think we may be trapped in an infinite loop here. It could lead to an argument. So I'll stop replying to this. No offence meant."
Well your correct I am unsure of law details. it was a general point of people staying within the rules and getting rich which I find ok. Yes probably in a loop but no offense taken |
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