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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Today's Times headline..
'Ministers bankrolled by donors linked to Russia'
Bill Browder gave names, to the committee, of MPs and Lords from both parties who are involved.
So, still no enquiry?? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Exactly. He can have his say, give his opinion but I'm not sure it would make any inquiry anymore impartial. "
He won't be doing the enquiry, will he!!!
But the information about MPs taking Russian money should be looked into, no?? |
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I agree their should be an Independent inquiry. The sad thing is that their should be so many covering Covid, NHS underspend, Care System Mismanagement, Defence, islamophobia, Russian influence, Press influence, Planning system abuse..., and others. The Tory’s have been having a field day for 10 years and think no one holds them to account  |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
Grantham |
"I agree their should be an Independent inquiry. The sad thing is that their should be so many covering Covid, NHS underspend, Care System Mismanagement, Defence, islamophobia, Russian influence, Press influence, Planning system abuse..., and others. The Tory’s have been having a field day for 10 years and think no one holds them to account "
General Elections in 2015, 2017 and 2019 not count then? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I agree their should be an Independent inquiry. The sad thing is that their should be so many covering Covid, NHS underspend, Care System Mismanagement, Defence, islamophobia, Russian influence, Press influence, Planning system abuse..., and others. The Tory’s have been having a field day for 10 years and think no one holds them to account
General Elections in 2015, 2017 and 2019 not count then? "
So, you are against an enquiry?? |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
Grantham |
"I agree their should be an Independent inquiry. The sad thing is that their should be so many covering Covid, NHS underspend, Care System Mismanagement, Defence, islamophobia, Russian influence, Press influence, Planning system abuse..., and others. The Tory’s have been having a field day for 10 years and think no one holds them to account
General Elections in 2015, 2017 and 2019 not count then?
So, you are against an enquiry??"
No, not against it but not over much for it either.
Not sure what it would achieve. Just as long as we now move forward with a greater knowledge of what Russia is upto. |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
upton wirral |
Enquiries after Iraq war,sinking of Belgrano totally pointless and made th judges and and there barristers mates loads of money load of money paid by us the tax payers.
An enquiry into this scandal would be the same these enquiries are a rip off of public funds. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I agree their should be an Independent inquiry. The sad thing is that their should be so many covering Covid, NHS underspend, Care System Mismanagement, Defence, islamophobia, Russian influence, Press influence, Planning system abuse..., and others. The Tory’s have been having a field day for 10 years and think no one holds them to account
General Elections in 2015, 2017 and 2019 not count then?
So, you are against an enquiry??
No, not against it but not over much for it either.
Not sure what it would achieve. Just as long as we now move forward with a greater knowledge of what Russia is upto. "
So, just let MPs take Russian bungs and meddle with our democracy? |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
Grantham |
"I agree their should be an Independent inquiry. The sad thing is that their should be so many covering Covid, NHS underspend, Care System Mismanagement, Defence, islamophobia, Russian influence, Press influence, Planning system abuse..., and others. The Tory’s have been having a field day for 10 years and think no one holds them to account
General Elections in 2015, 2017 and 2019 not count then?
So, you are against an enquiry??
No, not against it but not over much for it either.
Not sure what it would achieve. Just as long as we now move forward with a greater knowledge of what Russia is upto.
So, just let MPs take Russian bungs and meddle with our democracy?"
And who has taken a "bung"? |
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"I agree their should be an Independent inquiry. The sad thing is that their should be so many covering Covid, NHS underspend, Care System Mismanagement, Defence, islamophobia, Russian influence, Press influence, Planning system abuse..., and others. The Tory’s have been having a field day for 10 years and think no one holds them to account
General Elections in 2015, 2017 and 2019 not count then?
So, you are against an enquiry??
No, not against it but not over much for it either.
Not sure what it would achieve. Just as long as we now move forward with a greater knowledge of what Russia is upto. "
It won't achieve nothing because we know it will be kicked into the long grass.
Which doesn't give much optimism for the forthcoming covid enquiry.
We have a pm who routinely lies to the country.
That's what we voted for and that's what we got |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I agree their should be an Independent inquiry. The sad thing is that their should be so many covering Covid, NHS underspend, Care System Mismanagement, Defence, islamophobia, Russian influence, Press influence, Planning system abuse..., and others. The Tory’s have been having a field day for 10 years and think no one holds them to account
General Elections in 2015, 2017 and 2019 not count then?
So, you are against an enquiry??
No, not against it but not over much for it either.
Not sure what it would achieve. Just as long as we now move forward with a greater knowledge of what Russia is upto.
So, just let MPs take Russian bungs and meddle with our democracy?
And who has taken a "bung"? "
Bill Browden provided names to the enquiry. |
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"I agree their should be an Independent inquiry. The sad thing is that their should be so many covering Covid, NHS underspend, Care System Mismanagement, Defence, islamophobia, Russian influence, Press influence, Planning system abuse..., and others. The Tory’s have been having a field day for 10 years and think no one holds them to account
General Elections in 2015, 2017 and 2019 not count then?
So, you are against an enquiry??
No, not against it but not over much for it either.
Not sure what it would achieve. Just as long as we now move forward with a greater knowledge of what Russia is upto.
So, just let MPs take Russian bungs and meddle with our democracy?
And who has taken a "bung"?
Bill Browden provided names to the enquiry."
Do you want to clarify if the evidence and names he provided were those of MPs or Members of the House of Lords? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I am guessing they are lords because don't all mps have to declare any earnings or donations over a certain amount? Think its a really small amount too so reckon it would be difficult. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I agree their should be an Independent inquiry. The sad thing is that their should be so many covering Covid, NHS underspend, Care System Mismanagement, Defence, islamophobia, Russian influence, Press influence, Planning system abuse..., and others. The Tory’s have been having a field day for 10 years and think no one holds them to account
General Elections in 2015, 2017 and 2019 not count then?
So, you are against an enquiry??
No, not against it but not over much for it either.
Not sure what it would achieve. Just as long as we now move forward with a greater knowledge of what Russia is upto.
So, just let MPs take Russian bungs and meddle with our democracy?
And who has taken a "bung"?
Bill Browden provided names to the enquiry.
Do you want to clarify if the evidence and names he provided were those of MPs or Members of the House of Lords?"
From what I have read in interviews, it's both and from both parties. |
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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago
Manchester |
"I agree their should be an Independent inquiry. The sad thing is that their should be so many covering Covid, NHS underspend, Care System Mismanagement, Defence, islamophobia, Russian influence, Press influence, Planning system abuse..., and others. The Tory’s have been having a field day for 10 years and think no one holds them to account
General Elections in 2015, 2017 and 2019 not count then?
So, you are against an enquiry??
No, not against it but not over much for it either.
Not sure what it would achieve. Just as long as we now move forward with a greater knowledge of what Russia is upto.
So, just let MPs take Russian bungs and meddle with our democracy?
And who has taken a "bung"?
Bill Browden provided names to the enquiry.
Do you want to clarify if the evidence and names he provided were those of MPs or Members of the House of Lords?"
I believe it was members in both houses according to documents leaked to the times. The details will no doubt be redacted for very serious security reasons.
Btw Boris and a David Davis whilst both in Parliament have been paid by JCB a company owned by lord Bamford a leading Brexiteer, £20k and £60k per year for what???
Certainly not for advice on how to sell excavators..
They both did at least 10 hours consultancy per year for their money.
Boris had to quit when he became Prime minister.
Voters were terrified of the Nationalisation talk from Labour and as the older generation has seen the shit show of the mess nationalised industries make they ran to the Tories as they didn’t see an alternative.
We now have the worst most corrupt incompetent bunch I’ve ever seen.
Did you notice the National data information department being swept over to the cabinet‘’s control quietly last week?
That is dictatorship territory.
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"I agree their should be an Independent inquiry. The sad thing is that their should be so many covering Covid, NHS underspend, Care System Mismanagement, Defence, islamophobia, Russian influence, Press influence, Planning system abuse..., and others. The Tory’s have been having a field day for 10 years and think no one holds them to account
General Elections in 2015, 2017 and 2019 not count then?
So, you are against an enquiry??
No, not against it but not over much for it either.
Not sure what it would achieve. Just as long as we now move forward with a greater knowledge of what Russia is upto.
So, just let MPs take Russian bungs and meddle with our democracy?
And who has taken a "bung"?
Bill Browden provided names to the enquiry.
Do you want to clarify if the evidence and names he provided were those of MPs or Members of the House of Lords?
From what I have read in interviews, it's both and from both parties."
Which interviews have you read where he mentions MPs?
I heard him on Radio4, have read the report and where there is concern is with the members of the House of Lords as there is a loop hole (which has since been raised and is being dealt with) - which appears to have been used by members from all parties .
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"I agree their should be an Independent inquiry. The sad thing is that their should be so many covering Covid, NHS underspend, Care System Mismanagement, Defence, islamophobia, Russian influence, Press influence, Planning system abuse..., and others. The Tory’s have been having a field day for 10 years and think no one holds them to account
General Elections in 2015, 2017 and 2019 not count then?
So, you are against an enquiry??
No, not against it but not over much for it either.
Not sure what it would achieve. Just as long as we now move forward with a greater knowledge of what Russia is upto.
So, just let MPs take Russian bungs and meddle with our democracy?
And who has taken a "bung"?
Bill Browden provided names to the enquiry.
Do you want to clarify if the evidence and names he provided were those of MPs or Members of the House of Lords?
I believe it was members in both houses according to documents leaked to the times. The details will no doubt be redacted for very serious security reasons.
Btw Boris and a David Davis whilst both in Parliament have been paid by JCB a company owned by lord Bamford a leading Brexiteer, £20k and £60k per year for what???
Certainly not for advice on how to sell excavators..
They both did at least 10 hours consultancy per year for their money.
Boris had to quit when he became Prime minister.
Voters were terrified of the Nationalisation talk from Labour and as the older generation has seen the shit show of the mess nationalised industries make they ran to the Tories as they didn’t see an alternative.
We now have the worst most corrupt incompetent bunch I’ve ever seen.
Did you notice the National data information department being swept over to the cabinet‘’s control quietly last week?
That is dictatorship territory.
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They don't even bother hiding it.
It stinks. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I agree their should be an Independent inquiry. The sad thing is that their should be so many covering Covid, NHS underspend, Care System Mismanagement, Defence, islamophobia, Russian influence, Press influence, Planning system abuse..., and others. The Tory’s have been having a field day for 10 years and think no one holds them to account
General Elections in 2015, 2017 and 2019 not count then?
So, you are against an enquiry??
No, not against it but not over much for it either.
Not sure what it would achieve. Just as long as we now move forward with a greater knowledge of what Russia is upto.
So, just let MPs take Russian bungs and meddle with our democracy?
And who has taken a "bung"?
Bill Browden provided names to the enquiry.
Do you want to clarify if the evidence and names he provided were those of MPs or Members of the House of Lords?
From what I have read in interviews, it's both and from both parties.
Which interviews have you read where he mentions MPs?
I heard him on Radio4, have read the report and where there is concern is with the members of the House of Lords as there is a loop hole (which has since been raised and is being dealt with) - which appears to have been used by members from all parties .
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He gave specific names. I heard him in a radio interview in which he said he could not mention any names on air, obviously. |
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"I agree their should be an Independent inquiry. The sad thing is that their should be so many covering Covid, NHS underspend, Care System Mismanagement, Defence, islamophobia, Russian influence, Press influence, Planning system abuse..., and others. The Tory’s have been having a field day for 10 years and think no one holds them to account
General Elections in 2015, 2017 and 2019 not count then?
So, you are against an enquiry??
No, not against it but not over much for it either.
Not sure what it would achieve. Just as long as we now move forward with a greater knowledge of what Russia is upto.
So, just let MPs take Russian bungs and meddle with our democracy?
And who has taken a "bung"?
Bill Browden provided names to the enquiry.
Do you want to clarify if the evidence and names he provided were those of MPs or Members of the House of Lords?
From what I have read in interviews, it's both and from both parties.
Which interviews have you read where he mentions MPs?
I heard him on Radio4, have read the report and where there is concern is with the members of the House of Lords as there is a loop hole (which has since been raised and is being dealt with) - which appears to have been used by members from all parties .
He gave specific names. I heard him in a radio interview in which he said he could not mention any names on air, obviously."
You heard him mention specific names, but he didn’t say them on air?
Which radio interview was this??
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I agree their should be an Independent inquiry. The sad thing is that their should be so many covering Covid, NHS underspend, Care System Mismanagement, Defence, islamophobia, Russian influence, Press influence, Planning system abuse..., and others. The Tory’s have been having a field day for 10 years and think no one holds them to account
General Elections in 2015, 2017 and 2019 not count then?
So, you are against an enquiry??
No, not against it but not over much for it either.
Not sure what it would achieve. Just as long as we now move forward with a greater knowledge of what Russia is upto.
So, just let MPs take Russian bungs and meddle with our democracy?
And who has taken a "bung"?
Bill Browden provided names to the enquiry.
Do you want to clarify if the evidence and names he provided were those of MPs or Members of the House of Lords?
From what I have read in interviews, it's both and from both parties.
Which interviews have you read where he mentions MPs?
I heard him on Radio4, have read the report and where there is concern is with the members of the House of Lords as there is a loop hole (which has since been raised and is being dealt with) - which appears to have been used by members from all parties .
He gave specific names. I heard him in a radio interview in which he said he could not mention any names on air, obviously.
You heard him mention specific names, but he didn’t say them on air?
Which radio interview was this??
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He gave specific names to the committee with evidence. Around 13 or so, if I remember correctly. He did not say the names on air, of course he wouldn't!! He was interviewed on LBC by James O'Brien. |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
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The Conservative Party maintain that all donations to them, are all in the rules.
I'm sure that the Parliamentary Standards Committee will look into any alleged breach, if any member's name is supplied. |
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