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" mellow fellow Man 8 minutes ago manchester The bbc sold its transmitter network in the 90's. They are rolling in our money already and wasting it left right and centre. If they didnt then perhaps people wouldnt have to top them up with their license fee and could use the money to buy their own food, if the bbc even provided food for anyone. The vast majority of people dont want the fee or care about the bbc's services. Without it, those people you are claiming it has helped during the pandemic could have been watching other channels for free. Even with the fee in place i managed to watch all the news and entertainment i needed for free further proving the bbc's irrelevance " The point hey sold it is neither here nor there. The point that it was they who setup most of the media How it is used is relevant. Those who received food were people listening to local radio shows , not National or international television programming. Just to finish my tuppence worth . It was the beeb who back during darker times covered the war that many feel is why we have freedom in this country. Many feel things should not be cahnged with regards to statues etc . Many have a similar feeling to & for the BBC. If we go down the r9ute of advertised news programmes They may well claim bleach drinking is fine . | |||
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" mellow fellow Man 8 minutes ago manchester The bbc sold its transmitter network in the 90's. They are rolling in our money already and wasting it left right and centre. If they didnt then perhaps people wouldnt have to top them up with their license fee and could use the money to buy their own food, if the bbc even provided food for anyone. The vast majority of people dont want the fee or care about the bbc's services. Without it, those people you are claiming it has helped during the pandemic could have been watching other channels for free. Even with the fee in place i managed to watch all the news and entertainment i needed for free further proving the bbc's irrelevance The point hey sold it is neither here nor there. The point that it was they who setup most of the media How it is used is relevant. Those who received food were people listening to local radio shows , not National or international television programming. Just to finish my tuppence worth . It was the beeb who back during darker times covered the war that many feel is why we have freedom in this country. Many feel things should not be cahnged with regards to statues etc . Many have a similar feeling to & for the BBC. If we go down the r9ute of advertised news programmes They may well claim bleach drinking is fine . " So, they got public money to build the network, keep the money from selling it, and we should keep paying them for the privilege? | |||
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" mellow fellow Man 8 minutes ago manchester The bbc sold its transmitter network in the 90's. They are rolling in our money already and wasting it left right and centre. If they didnt then perhaps people wouldnt have to top them up with their license fee and could use the money to buy their own food, if the bbc even provided food for anyone. The vast majority of people dont want the fee or care about the bbc's services. Without it, those people you are claiming it has helped during the pandemic could have been watching other channels for free. Even with the fee in place i managed to watch all the news and entertainment i needed for free further proving the bbc's irrelevance The point hey sold it is neither here nor there. The point that it was they who setup most of the media How it is used is relevant. Those who received food were people listening to local radio shows , not National or international television programming. Just to finish my tuppence worth . It was the beeb who back during darker times covered the war that many feel is why we have freedom in this country. Many feel things should not be cahnged with regards to statues etc . Many have a similar feeling to & for the BBC. If we go down the r9ute of advertised news programmes They may well claim bleach drinking is fine . So, they got public money to build the network, keep the money from selling it, and we should keep paying them for the privilege? " No You are paying them to make good content for every taste. Be it a soap opera,comedy, political debate sport education kids tv etc. Think Fools & Horses Downton Abbey Peaky Blinders Question time The F.A cup final The world cup Euros Open golf Ooen University Grange hill Playschool Desert island discs Radio 1-5 Local bbc radio Have i got news for you Just a minute The Archers & a couple of thousand others. If you then want to watch netflix sky etc , whatever else, that is your choice. | |||
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" mellow fellow Man 8 minutes ago manchester The bbc sold its transmitter network in the 90's. They are rolling in our money already and wasting it left right and centre. If they didnt then perhaps people wouldnt have to top them up with their license fee and could use the money to buy their own food, if the bbc even provided food for anyone. The vast majority of people dont want the fee or care about the bbc's services. Without it, those people you are claiming it has helped during the pandemic could have been watching other channels for free. Even with the fee in place i managed to watch all the news and entertainment i needed for free further proving the bbc's irrelevance " Many watch the BBC and listen to there radio stations,I do and many others I know.Much prefer the content to that of say Sky or Netflix that turn out American crap in the main without any interlect | |||
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" mellow fellow Man 8 minutes ago manchester The bbc sold its transmitter network in the 90's. They are rolling in our money already and wasting it left right and centre. If they didnt then perhaps people wouldnt have to top them up with their license fee and could use the money to buy their own food, if the bbc even provided food for anyone. The vast majority of people dont want the fee or care about the bbc's services. Without it, those people you are claiming it has helped during the pandemic could have been watching other channels for free. Even with the fee in place i managed to watch all the news and entertainment i needed for free further proving the bbc's irrelevance The point hey sold it is neither here nor there. The point that it was they who setup most of the media How it is used is relevant. Those who received food were people listening to local radio shows , not National or international television programming. Just to finish my tuppence worth . It was the beeb who back during darker times covered the war that many feel is why we have freedom in this country. Many feel things should not be cahnged with regards to statues etc . Many have a similar feeling to & for the BBC. If we go down the r9ute of advertised news programmes They may well claim bleach drinking is fine . So, they got public money to build the network, keep the money from selling it, and we should keep paying them for the privilege? No You are paying them to make good content for every taste. Be it a soap opera,comedy, political debate sport education kids tv etc. Think Fools & Horses Downton Abbey Peaky Blinders Question time The F.A cup final The world cup Euros Open golf Ooen University Grange hill Playschool Desert island discs Radio 1-5 Local bbc radio Have i got news for you Just a minute The Archers & a couple of thousand others. If you then want to watch netflix sky etc , whatever else, that is your choice. " And its my choice to not watch the bbc however if i just want to watch sky i dont have the choice not to pay the bbc their license fee. So really i would be paying for the privelage of watching live tv and as the bbc sold the transmitter network i see that as a liberty, alongside the monumental wastes of money that are endemic within it. Further to that the licence fee would be paying to create material that is then taken by BBC comercial holdings Ltd. to be sold, and broadcast world wide for profit. (As well as to be repeated on their own channels ad nauseum). If you think that your license fee is well spent you are naive. | |||
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" mellow fellow Man 8 minutes ago manchester The bbc sold its transmitter network in the 90's. They are rolling in our money already and wasting it left right and centre. If they didnt then perhaps people wouldnt have to top them up with their license fee and could use the money to buy their own food, if the bbc even provided food for anyone. The vast majority of people dont want the fee or care about the bbc's services. Without it, those people you are claiming it has helped during the pandemic could have been watching other channels for free. Even with the fee in place i managed to watch all the news and entertainment i needed for free further proving the bbc's irrelevance Many watch the BBC and listen to there radio stations,I do and many others I know.Much prefer the content to that of say Sky or Netflix that turn out American crap in the main without any interlect" If it is so popular and great then it should have no problem as a subscription based service. | |||
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" mellow fellow Man 8 minutes ago manchester The bbc sold its transmitter network in the 90's. They are rolling in our money already and wasting it left right and centre. If they didnt then perhaps people wouldnt have to top them up with their license fee and could use the money to buy their own food, if the bbc even provided food for anyone. The vast majority of people dont want the fee or care about the bbc's services. Without it, those people you are claiming it has helped during the pandemic could have been watching other channels for free. Even with the fee in place i managed to watch all the news and entertainment i needed for free further proving the bbc's irrelevance The point hey sold it is neither here nor there. The point that it was they who setup most of the media How it is used is relevant. Those who received food were people listening to local radio shows , not National or international television programming. Just to finish my tuppence worth . It was the beeb who back during darker times covered the war that many feel is why we have freedom in this country. Many feel things should not be cahnged with regards to statues etc . Many have a similar feeling to & for the BBC. If we go down the r9ute of advertised news programmes They may well claim bleach drinking is fine . So, they got public money to build the network, keep the money from selling it, and we should keep paying them for the privilege? No You are paying them to make good content for every taste. Be it a soap opera,comedy, political debate sport education kids tv etc. Think Fools & Horses Downton Abbey Peaky Blinders Question time The F.A cup final The world cup Euros Open golf Ooen University Grange hill Playschool Desert island discs Radio 1-5 Local bbc radio Have i got news for you Just a minute The Archers & a couple of thousand others. If you then want to watch netflix sky etc , whatever else, that is your choice. And its my choice to not watch the bbc however if i just want to watch sky i dont have the choice not to pay the bbc their license fee. So really i would be paying for the privelage of watching live tv and as the bbc sold the transmitter network i see that as a liberty, alongside the monumental wastes of money that are endemic within it. Further to that the licence fee would be paying to create material that is then taken by BBC comercial holdings Ltd. to be sold, and broadcast world wide for profit. (As well as to be repeated on their own channels ad nauseum). If you think that your license fee is well spent you are naive." I doubt you pay for the hospital everyday You dont spend your entire life in school Plenty of stuff you pay for that you dont use day everyday , but are there for when you need to. Its like National insurance , You dont use it everyday But if the time comes where you cant work Your stamp duty covers it & the government Aides you. Now just to have an argument over not paying a few quid out for a service that 45 million people will use at Some point dufing the year is a bit antsy . Far better things to complain about . Proper politics should allow you to help the country Save hundreds of millions for phone companies not paying the proper tax they should . A single week would cover the cost of the licence fee alone . Youd be able to build a couple of hospitals a year to . Any profits the BBC make are taxable . Not sure the same would be said for Netflix. | |||
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" mellow fellow Man 8 minutes ago manchester The bbc sold its transmitter network in the 90's. They are rolling in our money already and wasting it left right and centre. If they didnt then perhaps people wouldnt have to top them up with their license fee and could use the money to buy their own food, if the bbc even provided food for anyone. The vast majority of people dont want the fee or care about the bbc's services. Without it, those people you are claiming it has helped during the pandemic could have been watching other channels for free. Even with the fee in place i managed to watch all the news and entertainment i needed for free further proving the bbc's irrelevance The point hey sold it is neither here nor there. The point that it was they who setup most of the media How it is used is relevant. Those who received food were people listening to local radio shows , not National or international television programming. Just to finish my tuppence worth . It was the beeb who back during darker times covered the war that many feel is why we have freedom in this country. Many feel things should not be cahnged with regards to statues etc . Many have a similar feeling to & for the BBC. If we go down the r9ute of advertised news programmes They may well claim bleach drinking is fine . So, they got public money to build the network, keep the money from selling it, and we should keep paying them for the privilege? No You are paying them to make good content for every taste. Be it a soap opera,comedy, political debate sport education kids tv etc. Think Fools & Horses Downton Abbey Peaky Blinders Question time The F.A cup final The world cup Euros Open golf Ooen University Grange hill Playschool Desert island discs Radio 1-5 Local bbc radio Have i got news for you Just a minute The Archers & a couple of thousand others. If you then want to watch netflix sky etc , whatever else, that is your choice. And its my choice to not watch the bbc however if i just want to watch sky i dont have the choice not to pay the bbc their license fee. So really i would be paying for the privelage of watching live tv and as the bbc sold the transmitter network i see that as a liberty, alongside the monumental wastes of money that are endemic within it. Further to that the licence fee would be paying to create material that is then taken by BBC comercial holdings Ltd. to be sold, and broadcast world wide for profit. (As well as to be repeated on their own channels ad nauseum). If you think that your license fee is well spent you are naive. I doubt you pay for the hospital everyday You dont spend your entire life in school Plenty of stuff you pay for that you dont use day everyday , but are there for when you need to. Its like National insurance , You dont use it everyday But if the time comes where you cant work Your stamp duty covers it & the government Aides you. Now just to have an argument over not paying a few quid out for a service that 45 million people will use at Some point dufing the year is a bit antsy . Far better things to complain about . Proper politics should allow you to help the country Save hundreds of millions for phone companies not paying the proper tax they should . A single week would cover the cost of the licence fee alone . Youd be able to build a couple of hospitals a year to . Any profits the BBC make are taxable . Not sure the same would be said for Netflix. " Your analogies are ridiculous. The bbc is a tv channel. I wouldn't die or starve if it disappeared altogether. As for your comments about taxes, use those unpaids taxes to pay for the bbc then, instead of chasing oap's with threats of fines, criminal convictions or even a jail sentance. | |||
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I cancelled my licence 11 years ago as I worked away from most of the time.
Most of the decent BBC shows can be found on Netflix, and I'm not a massive TV fan so don't yearn for the latest instalment of East Enders.
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" mellow fellow Man 8 minutes ago manchester The bbc sold its transmitter network in the 90's. They are rolling in our money already and wasting it left right and centre. If they didnt then perhaps people wouldnt have to top them up with their license fee and could use the money to buy their own food, if the bbc even provided food for anyone. The vast majority of people dont want the fee or care about the bbc's services. Without it, those people you are claiming it has helped during the pandemic could have been watching other channels for free. Even with the fee in place i managed to watch all the news and entertainment i needed for free further proving the bbc's irrelevance The point hey sold it is neither here nor there. The point that it was they who setup most of the media How it is used is relevant. Those who received food were people listening to local radio shows , not National or international television programming. Just to finish my tuppence worth . It was the beeb who back during darker times covered the war that many feel is why we have freedom in this country. Many feel things should not be cahnged with regards to statues etc . Many have a similar feeling to & for the BBC. If we go down the r9ute of advertised news programmes They may well claim bleach drinking is fine . So, they got public money to build the network, keep the money from selling it, and we should keep paying them for the privilege? No You are paying them to make good content for every taste. Be it a soap opera,comedy, political debate sport education kids tv etc. Think Fools & Horses Downton Abbey Peaky Blinders Question time The F.A cup final The world cup Euros Open golf Ooen University Grange hill Playschool Desert island discs Radio 1-5 Local bbc radio Have i got news for you Just a minute The Archers & a couple of thousand others. If you then want to watch netflix sky etc , whatever else, that is your choice. And its my choice to not watch the bbc however if i just want to watch sky i dont have the choice not to pay the bbc their license fee. So really i would be paying for the privelage of watching live tv and as the bbc sold the transmitter network i see that as a liberty, alongside the monumental wastes of money that are endemic within it. Further to that the licence fee would be paying to create material that is then taken by BBC comercial holdings Ltd. to be sold, and broadcast world wide for profit. (As well as to be repeated on their own channels ad nauseum). If you think that your license fee is well spent you are naive. I doubt you pay for the hospital everyday You dont spend your entire life in school Plenty of stuff you pay for that you dont use day everyday , but are there for when you need to. Its like National insurance , You dont use it everyday But if the time comes where you cant work Your stamp duty covers it & the government Aides you. Now just to have an argument over not paying a few quid out for a service that 45 million people will use at Some point dufing the year is a bit antsy . Far better things to complain about . Proper politics should allow you to help the country Save hundreds of millions for phone companies not paying the proper tax they should . A single week would cover the cost of the licence fee alone . Youd be able to build a couple of hospitals a year to . Any profits the BBC make are taxable . Not sure the same would be said for Netflix. Your analogies are ridiculous. The bbc is a tv channel. I wouldn't die or starve if it disappeared altogether. As for your comments about taxes, use those unpaids taxes to pay for the bbc then, instead of chasing oap's with threats of fines, criminal convictions or even a jail sentance." Are you really that stupid ? Unused taxes ? There are no unused taxes . Small amounts are used to help many. The bbc is far more than television . Its Radio service is the biggest in the world . It brings news to Brits around the world about home on an hourly basis . Its called bbc radio world service .armed forces rely on it for morale . | |||
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"The bbc is a tv channel. I wouldn't die or starve if it disappeared altogether. This
I cancelled my licence 11 years ago as I worked away from most of the time.
Most of the decent BBC shows can be found on Netflix, and I'm not a massive TV fan so don't yearn for the latest instalment of East Enders.
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"The bbc is a tv channel. I wouldn't die or starve if it disappeared altogether. This
I cancelled my licence 11 years ago as I worked away from most of the time.
Most of the decent BBC shows can be found on Netflix, and I'm not a massive TV fan so don't yearn for the latest instalment of East Enders.
So you dont use it
Millions do .
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" mellow fellow Man 8 minutes ago manchester The bbc sold its transmitter network in the 90's. They are rolling in our money already and wasting it left right and centre. If they didnt then perhaps people wouldnt have to top them up with their license fee and could use the money to buy their own food, if the bbc even provided food for anyone. The vast majority of people dont want the fee or care about the bbc's services. Without it, those people you are claiming it has helped during the pandemic could have been watching other channels for free. Even with the fee in place i managed to watch all the news and entertainment i needed for free further proving the bbc's irrelevance The point hey sold it is neither here nor there. The point that it was they who setup most of the media How it is used is relevant. Those who received food were people listening to local radio shows , not National or international television programming. Just to finish my tuppence worth . It was the beeb who back during darker times covered the war that many feel is why we have freedom in this country. Many feel things should not be cahnged with regards to statues etc . Many have a similar feeling to & for the BBC. If we go down the r9ute of advertised news programmes They may well claim bleach drinking is fine . So, they got public money to build the network, keep the money from selling it, and we should keep paying them for the privilege? No You are paying them to make good content for every taste. Be it a soap opera,comedy, political debate sport education kids tv etc. Think Fools & Horses Downton Abbey Peaky Blinders Question time The F.A cup final The world cup Euros Open golf Ooen University Grange hill Playschool Desert island discs Radio 1-5 Local bbc radio Have i got news for you Just a minute The Archers & a couple of thousand others. If you then want to watch netflix sky etc , whatever else, that is your choice. And its my choice to not watch the bbc however if i just want to watch sky i dont have the choice not to pay the bbc their license fee. So really i would be paying for the privelage of watching live tv and as the bbc sold the transmitter network i see that as a liberty, alongside the monumental wastes of money that are endemic within it. Further to that the licence fee would be paying to create material that is then taken by BBC comercial holdings Ltd. to be sold, and broadcast world wide for profit. (As well as to be repeated on their own channels ad nauseum). If you think that your license fee is well spent you are naive. I doubt you pay for the hospital everyday You dont spend your entire life in school Plenty of stuff you pay for that you dont use day everyday , but are there for when you need to. Its like National insurance , You dont use it everyday But if the time comes where you cant work Your stamp duty covers it & the government Aides you. Now just to have an argument over not paying a few quid out for a service that 45 million people will use at Some point dufing the year is a bit antsy . Far better things to complain about . Proper politics should allow you to help the country Save hundreds of millions for phone companies not paying the proper tax they should . A single week would cover the cost of the licence fee alone . Youd be able to build a couple of hospitals a year to . Any profits the BBC make are taxable . Not sure the same would be said for Netflix. Your analogies are ridiculous. The bbc is a tv channel. I wouldn't die or starve if it disappeared altogether. As for your comments about taxes, use those unpaids taxes to pay for the bbc then, instead of chasing oap's with threats of fines, criminal convictions or even a jail sentance. Are you really that stupid ? Unused taxes ? There are no unused taxes . Small amounts are used to help many. The bbc is far more than television . Its Radio service is the biggest in the world . It brings news to Brits around the world about home on an hourly basis . Its called bbc radio world service .armed forces rely on it for morale ." Well I've never claimed to be the brightest however unlike you, i am capable of reading a simple sentance and having a modicum of rational thought. I said UNPAID taxes. You know, the ones you where whittering on about in your last post. Btw, the world service recieves direct government funding to the tune of near £300m since 2015, prior to that it was entirely funded by the foreign office. This means that everyone of us is funding the world service through our taxes, seperate from the license fee ergo scrapping the fee does not equal losing the world service for those that actually care about it. | |||
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" mellow fellow Man 8 minutes ago manchester The bbc sold its transmitter network in the 90's. They are rolling in our money already and wasting it left right and centre. If they didnt then perhaps people wouldnt have to top them up with their license fee and could use the money to buy their own food, if the bbc even provided food for anyone. The vast majority of people dont want the fee or care about the bbc's services. Without it, those people you are claiming it has helped during the pandemic could have been watching other channels for free. Even with the fee in place i managed to watch all the news and entertainment i needed for free further proving the bbc's irrelevance Many watch the BBC and listen to there radio stations,I do and many others I know.Much prefer the content to that of say Sky or Netflix that turn out American crap in the main without any interlect If it is so popular and great then it should have no problem as a subscription based service." Eggs-bloody-actly | |||
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"The bbc is a tv channel. I wouldn't die or starve if it disappeared altogether. This
I cancelled my licence 11 years ago as I worked away from most of the time.
Most of the decent BBC shows can be found on Netflix, and I'm not a massive TV fan so don't yearn for the latest instalment of East Enders.
So you dont use it
Millions do .
Lol yea "Our Stories reaches 10m By Alex Farber9 July 2020 WEDNESDAY: PSBs reach 50% of total TV audience share with their 2-minute simulcast https://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/ratings/our-stories-reaches-10m/5151453.article | |||
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" mellow fellow Man 8 minutes ago manchester The bbc sold its transmitter network in the 90's. They are rolling in our money already and wasting it left right and centre. If they didnt then perhaps people wouldnt have to top them up with their license fee and could use the money to buy their own food, if the bbc even provided food for anyone. The vast majority of people dont want the fee or care about the bbc's services. Without it, those people you are claiming it has helped during the pandemic could have been watching other channels for free. Even with the fee in place i managed to watch all the news and entertainment i needed for free further proving the bbc's irrelevance The point hey sold it is neither here nor there. The point that it was they who setup most of the media How it is used is relevant. Those who received food were people listening to local radio shows , not National or international television programming. Just to finish my tuppence worth . It was the beeb who back during darker times covered the war that many feel is why we have freedom in this country. Many feel things should not be cahnged with regards to statues etc . Many have a similar feeling to & for the BBC. If we go down the r9ute of advertised news programmes They may well claim bleach drinking is fine . So, they got public money to build the network, keep the money from selling it, and we should keep paying them for the privilege? No You are paying them to make good content for every taste. Be it a soap opera,comedy, political debate sport education kids tv etc. Think Fools & Horses Downton Abbey Peaky Blinders Question time The F.A cup final The world cup Euros Open golf Ooen University Grange hill Playschool Desert island discs Radio 1-5 Local bbc radio Have i got news for you Just a minute The Archers & a couple of thousand others. If you then want to watch netflix sky etc , whatever else, that is your choice. And its my choice to not watch the bbc however if i just want to watch sky i dont have the choice not to pay the bbc their license fee. So really i would be paying for the privelage of watching live tv and as the bbc sold the transmitter network i see that as a liberty, alongside the monumental wastes of money that are endemic within it. Further to that the licence fee would be paying to create material that is then taken by BBC comercial holdings Ltd. to be sold, and broadcast world wide for profit. (As well as to be repeated on their own channels ad nauseum). If you think that your license fee is well spent you are naive. I doubt you pay for the hospital everyday You dont spend your entire life in school Plenty of stuff you pay for that you dont use day everyday , but are there for when you need to. Its like National insurance , You dont use it everyday But if the time comes where you cant work Your stamp duty covers it & the government Aides you. Now just to have an argument over not paying a few quid out for a service that 45 million people will use at Some point dufing the year is a bit antsy . Far better things to complain about . Proper politics should allow you to help the country Save hundreds of millions for phone companies not paying the proper tax they should . A single week would cover the cost of the licence fee alone . Youd be able to build a couple of hospitals a year to . Any profits the BBC make are taxable . Not sure the same would be said for Netflix. Your analogies are ridiculous. The bbc is a tv channel. I wouldn't die or starve if it disappeared altogether. As for your comments about taxes, use those unpaids taxes to pay for the bbc then, instead of chasing oap's with threats of fines, criminal convictions or even a jail sentance. Are you really that stupid ? Unused taxes ? There are no unused taxes . Small amounts are used to help many. The bbc is far more than television . Its Radio service is the biggest in the world . It brings news to Brits around the world about home on an hourly basis . Its called bbc radio world service .armed forces rely on it for morale . Well I've never claimed to be the brightest however unlike you, i am capable of reading a simple sentance and having a modicum of rational thought. I said UNPAID taxes. You know, the ones you where whittering on about in your last post. Btw, the world service recieves direct government funding to the tune of near £300m since 2015, prior to that it was entirely funded by the foreign office. This means that everyone of us is funding the world service through our taxes, seperate from the license fee ergo scrapping the fee does not equal losing the world service for those that actually care about it. " How can you use Unpaid taxes ? Take them to court fine them & give them a Criminal record , bit like what happens With an unpaid television licence If you are an HONEST LAW ABIDING citizen . | |||
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" mellow fellow Man 8 minutes ago manchester The bbc sold its transmitter network in the 90's. They are rolling in our money already and wasting it left right and centre. If they didnt then perhaps people wouldnt have to top them up with their license fee and could use the money to buy their own food, if the bbc even provided food for anyone. The vast majority of people dont want the fee or care about the bbc's services. Without it, those people you are claiming it has helped during the pandemic could have been watching other channels for free. Even with the fee in place i managed to watch all the news and entertainment i needed for free further proving the bbc's irrelevance Many watch the BBC and listen to there radio stations,I do and many others I know.Much prefer the content to that of say Sky or Netflix that turn out American crap in the main without any interlect If it is so popular and great then it should have no problem as a subscription based service. Eggs-bloody-actly "Calm down EDWINA Eggs was a long tume ago . | |||
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"The bbc is a tv channel. I wouldn't die or starve if it disappeared altogether. This
I cancelled my licence 11 years ago as I worked away from most of the time.
Most of the decent BBC shows can be found on Netflix, and I'm not a massive TV fan so don't yearn for the latest instalment of East Enders.
So you dont use it
Millions do .
Lol yea
Our Stories reaches 10m
By Alex Farber9 July 2020
WEDNESDAY: PSBs reach 50% of total TV audience share with their 2-minute simulcast
https://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/ratings/our-stories-reaches-10m/5151453.article
"Nah. But thanks for trying | |||
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"The bbc is a tv channel. I wouldn't die or starve if it disappeared altogether. This
I cancelled my licence 11 years ago as I worked away from most of the time.
Most of the decent BBC shows can be found on Netflix, and I'm not a massive TV fan so don't yearn for the latest instalment of East Enders.
So you dont use it
Millions do .
Lol yea
Our Stories reaches 10m
By Alex Farber9 July 2020
WEDNESDAY: PSBs reach 50% of total TV audience share with their 2-minute simulcast
https://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/ratings/our-stories-reaches-10m/5151453.article
Nah. But thanks for trying "Its a statistics page Not a Show Dimlow | |||
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" mellow fellow Man 8 minutes ago manchester The bbc sold its transmitter network in the 90's. They are rolling in our money already and wasting it left right and centre. If they didnt then perhaps people wouldnt have to top them up with their license fee and could use the money to buy their own food, if the bbc even provided food for anyone. The vast majority of people dont want the fee or care about the bbc's services. Without it, those people you are claiming it has helped during the pandemic could have been watching other channels for free. Even with the fee in place i managed to watch all the news and entertainment i needed for free further proving the bbc's irrelevance The point hey sold it is neither here nor there. The point that it was they who setup most of the media How it is used is relevant. Those who received food were people listening to local radio shows , not National or international television programming. Just to finish my tuppence worth . It was the beeb who back during darker times covered the war that many feel is why we have freedom in this country. Many feel things should not be cahnged with regards to statues etc . Many have a similar feeling to & for the BBC. If we go down the r9ute of advertised news programmes They may well claim bleach drinking is fine . So, they got public money to build the network, keep the money from selling it, and we should keep paying them for the privilege? No You are paying them to make good content for every taste. Be it a soap opera,comedy, political debate sport education kids tv etc. Think Fools & Horses Downton Abbey Peaky Blinders Question time The F.A cup final The world cup Euros Open golf Ooen University Grange hill Playschool Desert island discs Radio 1-5 Local bbc radio Have i got news for you Just a minute The Archers & a couple of thousand others. If you then want to watch netflix sky etc , whatever else, that is your choice. And its my choice to not watch the bbc however if i just want to watch sky i dont have the choice not to pay the bbc their license fee. So really i would be paying for the privelage of watching live tv and as the bbc sold the transmitter network i see that as a liberty, alongside the monumental wastes of money that are endemic within it. Further to that the licence fee would be paying to create material that is then taken by BBC comercial holdings Ltd. to be sold, and broadcast world wide for profit. (As well as to be repeated on their own channels ad nauseum). If you think that your license fee is well spent you are naive. I doubt you pay for the hospital everyday You dont spend your entire life in school Plenty of stuff you pay for that you dont use day everyday , but are there for when you need to. Its like National insurance , You dont use it everyday But if the time comes where you cant work Your stamp duty covers it & the government Aides you. Now just to have an argument over not paying a few quid out for a service that 45 million people will use at Some point dufing the year is a bit antsy . Far better things to complain about . Proper politics should allow you to help the country Save hundreds of millions for phone companies not paying the proper tax they should . A single week would cover the cost of the licence fee alone . Youd be able to build a couple of hospitals a year to . Any profits the BBC make are taxable . Not sure the same would be said for Netflix. Your analogies are ridiculous. The bbc is a tv channel. I wouldn't die or starve if it disappeared altogether. As for your comments about taxes, use those unpaids taxes to pay for the bbc then, instead of chasing oap's with threats of fines, criminal convictions or even a jail sentance. Are you really that stupid ? Unused taxes ? There are no unused taxes . Small amounts are used to help many. The bbc is far more than television . Its Radio service is the biggest in the world . It brings news to Brits around the world about home on an hourly basis . Its called bbc radio world service .armed forces rely on it for morale . Well I've never claimed to be the brightest however unlike you, i am capable of reading a simple sentance and having a modicum of rational thought. I said UNPAID taxes. You know, the ones you where whittering on about in your last post. Btw, the world service recieves direct government funding to the tune of near £300m since 2015, prior to that it was entirely funded by the foreign office. This means that everyone of us is funding the world service through our taxes, seperate from the license fee ergo scrapping the fee does not equal losing the world service for those that actually care about it. How can you use Unpaid taxes ? Take them to court fine them & give them a Criminal record , bit like what happens With an unpaid television licence If you are an HONEST LAW ABIDING citizen ." Keep up lad. Your words - "Save hundreds of millions for phone companies not paying the proper tax they should . A single week would cover the cost of the licence fee alone . Youd be able to build a couple of hospitals a year to ." You suggested making companies pay the proper tax and i agreed and said its better than threatening OAP's. Its not difficult to understand... | |||
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"The bbc is a tv channel. I wouldn't die or starve if it disappeared altogether. This
I cancelled my licence 11 years ago as I worked away from most of the time.
Most of the decent BBC shows can be found on Netflix, and I'm not a massive TV fan so don't yearn for the latest instalment of East Enders.
So you dont use it
Millions do .
Lol yea
Our Stories reaches 10m
By Alex Farber9 July 2020
WEDNESDAY: PSBs reach 50% of total TV audience share with their 2-minute simulcast
https://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/ratings/our-stories-reaches-10m/5151453.article
Nah. But thanks for trying
Its a statistics page
Not a Show
Dimlow"Its a page that can't be read without registering and I'm guessing the other poster was declining to bother and he never mentioned it being a show. Again not hard to understand and you call us "stupid" and "dimlows" | |||
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"The bbc is a tv channel. I wouldn't die or starve if it disappeared altogether. This
I cancelled my licence 11 years ago as I worked away from most of the time.
Most of the decent BBC shows can be found on Netflix, and I'm not a massive TV fan so don't yearn for the latest instalment of East Enders.
So you dont use it
Millions do .
Lol yea
Our Stories reaches 10m
By Alex Farber9 July 2020
WEDNESDAY: PSBs reach 50% of total TV audience share with their 2-minute simulcast
https://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/ratings/our-stories-reaches-10m/5151453.article
Nah. But thanks for trying
Its a statistics page
Not a Show
Dimlow"Well you just lost all credibility with the name calling. 
But to be honest, I was expecting it. | |||
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"The bbc is a tv channel. I wouldn't die or starve if it disappeared altogether. This
I cancelled my licence 11 years ago as I worked away from most of the time.
Most of the decent BBC shows can be found on Netflix, and I'm not a massive TV fan so don't yearn for the latest instalment of East Enders.
So you dont use it
Millions do .
Lol yea
Our Stories reaches 10m
By Alex Farber9 July 2020
WEDNESDAY: PSBs reach 50% of total TV audience share with their 2-minute simulcast
https://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/ratings/our-stories-reaches-10m/5151453.article
Nah. But thanks for trying
Its a statistics page
Not a Show
Dimlow
Its a page that can't be read without registering and I'm guessing the other poster was declining to bother and he never mentioned it being a show.
Again not hard to understand and you call us "stupid" and "dimlows" "The copy & paste of 10 M viewers doesnt need to be subscribed or joined to see. Justopening ones eyes on here does that | |||
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"The bbc is a tv channel. I wouldn't die or starve if it disappeared altogether. This
I cancelled my licence 11 years ago as I worked away from most of the time.
Most of the decent BBC shows can be found on Netflix, and I'm not a massive TV fan so don't yearn for the latest instalment of East Enders.
So you dont use it
Millions do .
Lol yea
Our Stories reaches 10m
By Alex Farber9 July 2020
WEDNESDAY: PSBs reach 50% of total TV audience share with their 2-minute simulcast
https://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/ratings/our-stories-reaches-10m/5151453.article
Nah. But thanks for trying
Its a statistics page
Not a Show
Dimlow
Well you just lost all credibility with the name calling.
But to be honest, I was expecting it. "Nothing wrong with name calling As Micky Flanagan would say Youknow its ok when the casual c*nting starts  | |||
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"The bbc is a tv channel. I wouldn't die or starve if it disappeared altogether. This
I cancelled my licence 11 years ago as I worked away from most of the time.
Most of the decent BBC shows can be found on Netflix, and I'm not a massive TV fan so don't yearn for the latest instalment of East Enders.
So you dont use it
Millions do .
Lol yea
Our Stories reaches 10m
By Alex Farber9 July 2020
WEDNESDAY: PSBs reach 50% of total TV audience share with their 2-minute simulcast
https://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/ratings/our-stories-reaches-10m/5151453.article
Nah. But thanks for trying
Its a statistics page
Not a Show
Dimlow
Well you just lost all credibility with the name calling.
But to be honest, I was expecting it.
Nothing wrong with name calling
As Micky Flanagan would say
Youknow its ok when the casual c*nting starts
"Nah. Any respect that I did have for you being able to uphold a credible argument has now diminished. | |||
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"The bbc is a tv channel. I wouldn't die or starve if it disappeared altogether. This
I cancelled my licence 11 years ago as I worked away from most of the time.
Most of the decent BBC shows can be found on Netflix, and I'm not a massive TV fan so don't yearn for the latest instalment of East Enders.
So you dont use it
Millions do .
Lol yea
Our Stories reaches 10m
By Alex Farber9 July 2020
WEDNESDAY: PSBs reach 50% of total TV audience share with their 2-minute simulcast
https://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/ratings/our-stories-reaches-10m/5151453.article
Nah. But thanks for trying
Its a statistics page
Not a Show
Dimlow
Well you just lost all credibility with the name calling.
But to be honest, I was expecting it.
Nothing wrong with name calling
As Micky Flanagan would say
Youknow its ok when the casual c*nting starts
Nah. Any respect that I did have for you being able to uphold a credible argument has now diminished.
"When you put forward a credible argument I might just start to care | |||
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"The bbc is a tv channel. I wouldn't die or starve if it disappeared altogether. This
I cancelled my licence 11 years ago as I worked away from most of the time.
Most of the decent BBC shows can be found on Netflix, and I'm not a massive TV fan so don't yearn for the latest instalment of East Enders.
So you dont use it
Millions do .
Lol yea
Our Stories reaches 10m
By Alex Farber9 July 2020
WEDNESDAY: PSBs reach 50% of total TV audience share with their 2-minute simulcast
https://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/ratings/our-stories-reaches-10m/5151453.article
Nah. But thanks for trying
Its a statistics page
Not a Show
Dimlow
Its a page that can't be read without registering and I'm guessing the other poster was declining to bother and he never mentioned it being a show.
Again not hard to understand and you call us "stupid" and "dimlows"
The copy & paste of 10 M viewers doesnt need to
be subscribed or joined to see.
Justopening ones eyes on here does that
"My eyes are open and they can see that the headline is meaningless without extra info. Did you know that itv is a pbs? As is channel 4, 5, s4c, stv and utv. Which channel did 10m people watch? Did they watch it all at the same time on the same channel? Or was it over all of the channels over thd space of a day? A week? A year? If it was on the bbc, would people not have just watched 'the story' elsewhere if the bbc didnt exist? How many people didnt even watch any tv and found out on the internet? Etc etc etc.. | |||
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"The bbc is a tv channel. I wouldn't die or starve if it disappeared altogether. This
I cancelled my licence 11 years ago as I worked away from most of the time.
Most of the decent BBC shows can be found on Netflix, and I'm not a massive TV fan so don't yearn for the latest instalment of East Enders.
So you dont use it
Millions do .
Lol yea
Our Stories reaches 10m
By Alex Farber9 July 2020
WEDNESDAY: PSBs reach 50% of total TV audience share with their 2-minute simulcast
https://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/ratings/our-stories-reaches-10m/5151453.article
Nah. But thanks for trying
Its a statistics page
Not a Show
Dimlow
Its a page that can't be read without registering and I'm guessing the other poster was declining to bother and he never mentioned it being a show.
Again not hard to understand and you call us "stupid" and "dimlows"
The copy & paste of 10 M viewers doesnt need to
be subscribed or joined to see.
Justopening ones eyes on here does that
My eyes are open and they can see that the headline is meaningless without extra info. Did you know that itv is a pbs? As is channel 4, 5, s4c, stv and utv.
Which channel did 10m people watch? Did they watch it all at the same time on the same channel? Or was it over all of the channels over thd space of a day? A week? A year?
If it was on the bbc, would people not have just watched 'the story' elsewhere if the bbc didnt exist? How many people didnt even watch any tv and found out on the internet? Etc etc etc.. "Its all here https://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/ratings Just google it like i did No subscription needed 2.3 million viewed itvs cruise ship 3 m watched there voice kids Its an independent ratings page. Hope that helps . The 10m page review I just clicked on before copy & pasting. Didnt need to subscribe or join or even Pay a fee to. Its amazing this free internet stuff  | |||
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"The bbc is a tv channel. I wouldn't die or starve if it disappeared altogether. This
I cancelled my licence 11 years ago as I worked away from most of the time.
Most of the decent BBC shows can be found on Netflix, and I'm not a massive TV fan so don't yearn for the latest instalment of East Enders.
So you dont use it
Millions do .
Lol yea
Our Stories reaches 10m
By Alex Farber9 July 2020
WEDNESDAY: PSBs reach 50% of total TV audience share with their 2-minute simulcast
https://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/ratings/our-stories-reaches-10m/5151453.article
Nah. But thanks for trying
Its a statistics page
Not a Show
Dimlow
Its a page that can't be read without registering and I'm guessing the other poster was declining to bother and he never mentioned it being a show.
Again not hard to understand and you call us "stupid" and "dimlows"
The copy & paste of 10 M viewers doesnt need to
be subscribed or joined to see.
Justopening ones eyes on here does that
My eyes are open and they can see that the headline is meaningless without extra info. Did you know that itv is a pbs? As is channel 4, 5, s4c, stv and utv.
Which channel did 10m people watch? Did they watch it all at the same time on the same channel? Or was it over all of the channels over thd space of a day? A week? A year?
If it was on the bbc, would people not have just watched 'the story' elsewhere if the bbc didnt exist? How many people didnt even watch any tv and found out on the internet? Etc etc etc..
Its all here
https://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/ratings
Just google it like i did
No subscription needed
2.3 million viewed itvs cruise ship
3 m watched there voice kids
Its an independent ratings page.
Hope that helps .
The 10m page review
I just clicked on before copy & pasting.
Didnt need to subscribe or join or even
Pay a fee to.
Its amazing this free internet stuff
""Do you want to keep reading? Register to read five free articles per month Subscribe and get access toUp to the minute industry newsInsight into the latest programme performancesRatings data with viewing trendsIn-depth news analysis Access premium content SUBSCRIBE TODAY If you have an account you can SIGN IN now" If you want to make a point then its up to you to provide the details, it would also help if you actually made a point.. | |||
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"The bbc is a tv channel. I wouldn't die or starve if it disappeared altogether. This
I cancelled my licence 11 years ago as I worked away from most of the time.
Most of the decent BBC shows can be found on Netflix, and I'm not a massive TV fan so don't yearn for the latest instalment of East Enders.
So you dont use it
Millions do .
Lol yea
Our Stories reaches 10m
By Alex Farber9 July 2020
WEDNESDAY: PSBs reach 50% of total TV audience share with their 2-minute simulcast
https://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/ratings/our-stories-reaches-10m/5151453.article
Nah. But thanks for trying
Its a statistics page
Not a Show
Dimlow
Its a page that can't be read without registering and I'm guessing the other poster was declining to bother and he never mentioned it being a show.
Again not hard to understand and you call us "stupid" and "dimlows"
The copy & paste of 10 M viewers doesnt need to
be subscribed or joined to see.
Justopening ones eyes on here does that
My eyes are open and they can see that the headline is meaningless without extra info. Did you know that itv is a pbs? As is channel 4, 5, s4c, stv and utv.
Which channel did 10m people watch? Did they watch it all at the same time on the same channel? Or was it over all of the channels over thd space of a day? A week? A year?
If it was on the bbc, would people not have just watched 'the story' elsewhere if the bbc didnt exist? How many people didnt even watch any tv and found out on the internet? Etc etc etc..
Its all here
https://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/ratings
Just google it like i did
No subscription needed
2.3 million viewed itvs cruise ship
3 m watched there voice kids
Its an independent ratings page.
Hope that helps .
The 10m page review
I just clicked on before copy & pasting.
Didnt need to subscribe or join or even
Pay a fee to.
Its amazing this free internet stuff
"Do you want to keep reading?
Register to read five free articles per month
Subscribe and get access toUp to the minute industry newsInsight into the latest programme performancesRatings data with viewing trendsIn-depth news analysis
Access premium content SUBSCRIBE TODAY
If you have an account you can SIGN IN now"
If you want to make a point then its up to you to provide the details, it would also help if you actually made a point..
"Must be a problem your end as ive read every article on the main page & have never visited or registered for it before. | |||
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"As for my point. It has always been the tv licence is great value for money to the millions who use jt." That would be debatable depending on what you want to watch. What isnt debatable is that it is very poor value for those that dont use it. | |||
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"As for my point. It has always been the tv licence is great value for money to the millions who use jt. That would be debatable depending on what you want to watch. What isnt debatable is that it is very poor value for those that dont use it." I dont & never will use a prison. Shall we let all the criminals go free because its poor valuefor myself. I say myself, as i cant vouch for you. | |||
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"As for my point. It has always been the tv licence is great value for money to the millions who use jt. That would be debatable depending on what you want to watch. What isnt debatable is that it is very poor value for those that dont use it. I dont & never will use a prison. Shall we let all the criminals go free because its poor valuefor myself. I say myself, as i cant vouch for you." Are you calling ITV criminsls? | |||
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"As for my point. It has always been the tv licence is great value for money to the millions who use jt. That would be debatable depending on what you want to watch. What isnt debatable is that it is very poor value for those that dont use it. I dont & never will use a prison. Shall we let all the criminals go free because its poor valuefor myself. I say myself, as i cant vouch for you. Are you calling ITV criminsls? "No thats just you
You are the type it seems to
know criminals id guess
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"As for my point. It has always been the tv licence is great value for money to the millions who use jt. That would be debatable depending on what you want to watch. What isnt debatable is that it is very poor value for those that dont use it. I dont & never will use a prison. Shall we let all the criminals go free because its poor valuefor myself. I say myself, as i cant vouch for you. Are you calling ITV criminsls?
No thats just you
You are the type it seems to
know criminals id guess
"The only thing criminal here is your stupidity. | |||
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"As for my point. It has always been the tv licence is great value for money to the millions who use jt. That would be debatable depending on what you want to watch. What isnt debatable is that it is very poor value for those that dont use it. I dont & never will use a prison. Shall we let all the criminals go free because its poor valuefor myself. I say myself, as i cant vouch for you." Lol the gift that keeps on giving. It was a valiant attempt OP at trying to convince others that the the TV licence fee should remain. Unfortunately it seems most people disagree with your opinion. Never mind I'm sure you will keep us all enthralled with pointless statistics and mediocre banter. Good luck though.  | |||
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"As for my point. It has always been the tv licence is great value for money to the millions who use jt. That would be debatable depending on what you want to watch. What isnt debatable is that it is very poor value for those that dont use it. I dont & never will use a prison. Shall we let all the criminals go free because its poor valuefor myself. I say myself, as i cant vouch for you. Lol the gift that keeps on giving. It was a valiant attempt OP at trying to convince others that the the TV licence fee should remain. Unfortunately it seems most people disagree with your opinion. Never mind I'm sure you will keep us all enthralled with pointless statistics and mediocre banter. Good luck though. "Pointless statistics ? What are you babbling about ? Viewing figures are not pointless. Mediocre banter is far better than Contemplating self harm reading yours & others banal doodles | |||
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"As for my point. It has always been the tv licence is great value for money to the millions who use jt. That would be debatable depending on what you want to watch. What isnt debatable is that it is very poor value for those that dont use it. I dont & never will use a prison. Shall we let all the criminals go free because its poor valuefor myself. I say myself, as i cant vouch for you. Lol the gift that keeps on giving. It was a valiant attempt OP at trying to convince others that the the TV licence fee should remain. Unfortunately it seems most people disagree with your opinion. Never mind I'm sure you will keep us all enthralled with pointless statistics and mediocre banter. Good luck though.
Pointless statistics ?
What are you babbling about ?
Viewing figures are not pointless.
Mediocre banter is far better than
Contemplating self harm reading yours & others
banal doodles
"Lol still waffling I see. | |||
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"As for my point. It has always been the tv licence is great value for money to the millions who use jt. That would be debatable depending on what you want to watch. What isnt debatable is that it is very poor value for those that dont use it. I dont & never will use a prison. Shall we let all the criminals go free because its poor valuefor myself. I say myself, as i cant vouch for you. Lol the gift that keeps on giving. It was a valiant attempt OP at trying to convince others that the the TV licence fee should remain. Unfortunately it seems most people disagree with your opinion. Never mind I'm sure you will keep us all enthralled with pointless statistics and mediocre banter. Good luck though.
Pointless statistics ?
What are you babbling about ?
Viewing figures are not pointless.
Mediocre banter is far better than
Contemplating self harm reading yours & others
banal doodles
Lol still waffling I see.
"Just following your lead I dont think you have offered anything at all to The thread other than the opportunity For some to ridicule you | |||
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"As for my point. It has always been the tv licence is great value for money to the millions who use jt. That would be debatable depending on what you want to watch. What isnt debatable is that it is very poor value for those that dont use it. I dont & never will use a prison. Shall we let all the criminals go free because its poor valuefor myself. I say myself, as i cant vouch for you. Lol the gift that keeps on giving. It was a valiant attempt OP at trying to convince others that the the TV licence fee should remain. Unfortunately it seems most people disagree with your opinion. Never mind I'm sure you will keep us all enthralled with pointless statistics and mediocre banter. Good luck though.
Pointless statistics ?
What are you babbling about ?
Viewing figures are not pointless.
Mediocre banter is far better than
Contemplating self harm reading yours & others
banal doodles
Lol still waffling I see.
Just following your lead
I dont think you have offered anything at all to
The thread other than the opportunity
For some to ridicule you
"Lol shite banter. But feel free to ridicule | |||
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"As for my point. It has always been the tv licence is great value for money to the millions who use jt. That would be debatable depending on what you want to watch. What isnt debatable is that it is very poor value for those that dont use it. I dont & never will use a prison. Shall we let all the criminals go free because its poor valuefor myself. I say myself, as i cant vouch for you. Lol the gift that keeps on giving. It was a valiant attempt OP at trying to convince others that the the TV licence fee should remain. Unfortunately it seems most people disagree with your opinion. Never mind I'm sure you will keep us all enthralled with pointless statistics and mediocre banter. Good luck though.
Pointless statistics ?
What are you babbling about ?
Viewing figures are not pointless.
Mediocre banter is far better than
Contemplating self harm reading yours & others
banal doodles
Lol still waffling I see.
Just following your lead
I dont think you have offered anything at all to
The thread other than the opportunity
For some to ridicule you
Lol shite banter. But feel free to ridicule "I would if you were worthy. Im only replying because i was bought up with good manners I think you are replying due to need for argument | |||
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"As for my point. It has always been the tv licence is great value for money to the millions who use jt. That would be debatable depending on what you want to watch. What isnt debatable is that it is very poor value for those that dont use it. I dont & never will use a prison. Shall we let all the criminals go free because its poor valuefor myself. I say myself, as i cant vouch for you. Lol the gift that keeps on giving. It was a valiant attempt OP at trying to convince others that the the TV licence fee should remain. Unfortunately it seems most people disagree with your opinion. Never mind I'm sure you will keep us all enthralled with pointless statistics and mediocre banter. Good luck though.
Pointless statistics ?
What are you babbling about ?
Viewing figures are not pointless.
Mediocre banter is far better than
Contemplating self harm reading yours & others
banal doodles
Lol still waffling I see.
Just following your lead
I dont think you have offered anything at all to
The thread other than the opportunity
For some to ridicule you
Lol shite banter. But feel free to ridicule
I would if you were worthy.
Im only replying because i was bought up with good manners
I think you are replying due to need for argument
"Lol good manners. The original argument was abolish the licence fee. Before you started with name calling. You seem to be the only one biting | |||
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"As for my point. It has always been the tv licence is great value for money to the millions who use jt. That would be debatable depending on what you want to watch. What isnt debatable is that it is very poor value for those that dont use it. I dont & never will use a prison. Shall we let all the criminals go free because its poor valuefor myself. I say myself, as i cant vouch for you. Lol the gift that keeps on giving. It was a valiant attempt OP at trying to convince others that the the TV licence fee should remain. Unfortunately it seems most people disagree with your opinion. Never mind I'm sure you will keep us all enthralled with pointless statistics and mediocre banter. Good luck though.
Pointless statistics ?
What are you babbling about ?
Viewing figures are not pointless.
Mediocre banter is far better than
Contemplating self harm reading yours & others
banal doodles
Lol still waffling I see.
Just following your lead
I dont think you have offered anything at all to
The thread other than the opportunity
For some to ridicule you
Lol shite banter. But feel free to ridicule
I would if you were worthy.
Im only replying because i was bought up with good manners
I think you are replying due to need for argument
Lol good manners. The original argument was abolish the licence fee. Before you started with name calling.
You seem to be the only one biting "Biting Im just returning the pointless serve you are Playing at a game that isnt tennis
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"As for my point. It has always been the tv licence is great value for money to the millions who use jt. That would be debatable depending on what you want to watch. What isnt debatable is that it is very poor value for those that dont use it. I dont & never will use a prison. Shall we let all the criminals go free because its poor valuefor myself. I say myself, as i cant vouch for you. Lol the gift that keeps on giving. It was a valiant attempt OP at trying to convince others that the the TV licence fee should remain. Unfortunately it seems most people disagree with your opinion. Never mind I'm sure you will keep us all enthralled with pointless statistics and mediocre banter. Good luck though.
Pointless statistics ?
What are you babbling about ?
Viewing figures are not pointless.
Mediocre banter is far better than
Contemplating self harm reading yours & others
banal doodles
Lol still waffling I see.
Just following your lead
I dont think you have offered anything at all to
The thread other than the opportunity
For some to ridicule you
Lol shite banter. But feel free to ridicule
I would if you were worthy.
Im only replying because i was bought up with good manners
I think you are replying due to need for argument
Lol good manners. The original argument was abolish the licence fee. Before you started with name calling.
You seem to be the only one biting
Biting
Im just returning the pointless serve you are
Playing at a game that isnt tennis
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"As for my point. It has always been the tv licence is great value for money to the millions who use jt. That would be debatable depending on what you want to watch. What isnt debatable is that it is very poor value for those that dont use it. I dont & never will use a prison. Shall we let all the criminals go free because its poor valuefor myself. I say myself, as i cant vouch for you. Lol the gift that keeps on giving. It was a valiant attempt OP at trying to convince others that the the TV licence fee should remain. Unfortunately it seems most people disagree with your opinion. Never mind I'm sure you will keep us all enthralled with pointless statistics and mediocre banter. Good luck though.
Pointless statistics ?
What are you babbling about ?
Viewing figures are not pointless.
Mediocre banter is far better than
Contemplating self harm reading yours & others
banal doodles
Lol still waffling I see.
Just following your lead
I dont think you have offered anything at all to
The thread other than the opportunity
For some to ridicule you
Lol shite banter. But feel free to ridicule
I would if you were worthy.
Im only replying because i was bought up with good manners
I think you are replying due to need for argument
Lol good manners. The original argument was abolish the licence fee. Before you started with name calling.
You seem to be the only one biting
Biting
Im just returning the pointless serve you are
Playing at a game that isnt tennis
Still on the hook I see "It seems you are Here Fishy Fish | |||
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"As for my point. It has always been the tv licence is great value for money to the millions who use jt. That would be debatable depending on what you want to watch. What isnt debatable is that it is very poor value for those that dont use it. I dont & never will use a prison. Shall we let all the criminals go free because its poor valuefor myself. I say myself, as i cant vouch for you. Lol the gift that keeps on giving. It was a valiant attempt OP at trying to convince others that the the TV licence fee should remain. Unfortunately it seems most people disagree with your opinion. Never mind I'm sure you will keep us all enthralled with pointless statistics and mediocre banter. Good luck though.
Pointless statistics ?
What are you babbling about ?
Viewing figures are not pointless.
Mediocre banter is far better than
Contemplating self harm reading yours & others
banal doodles
Lol still waffling I see.
Just following your lead
I dont think you have offered anything at all to
The thread other than the opportunity
For some to ridicule you
Lol shite banter. But feel free to ridicule
I would if you were worthy.
Im only replying because i was bought up with good manners
I think you are replying due to need for argument
Lol good manners. The original argument was abolish the licence fee. Before you started with name calling.
You seem to be the only one biting
Biting
Im just returning the pointless serve you are
Playing at a game that isnt tennis
Still on the hook I see
It seems you are
Here Fishy Fish
"Still on the hook I see. You seem to reply to my every post lol. Are you a little obsessed with me 
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"As for my point. It has always been the tv licence is great value for money to the millions who use jt. That would be debatable depending on what you want to watch. What isnt debatable is that it is very poor value for those that dont use it. I dont & never will use a prison. Shall we let all the criminals go free because its poor valuefor myself. I say myself, as i cant vouch for you. Lol the gift that keeps on giving. It was a valiant attempt OP at trying to convince others that the the TV licence fee should remain. Unfortunately it seems most people disagree with your opinion. Never mind I'm sure you will keep us all enthralled with pointless statistics and mediocre banter. Good luck though.
Pointless statistics ?
What are you babbling about ?
Viewing figures are not pointless.
Mediocre banter is far better than
Contemplating self harm reading yours & others
banal doodles
Lol still waffling I see.
Just following your lead
I dont think you have offered anything at all to
The thread other than the opportunity
For some to ridicule you
Lol shite banter. But feel free to ridicule
I would if you were worthy.
Im only replying because i was bought up with good manners
I think you are replying due to need for argument
Lol good manners. The original argument was abolish the licence fee. Before you started with name calling.
You seem to be the only one biting
Biting
Im just returning the pointless serve you are
Playing at a game that isnt tennis
Still on the hook I see
It seems you are
Here Fishy Fish
Still on the hook I see.
You seem to reply to my every post lol.
Are you a little obsessed with me
Comment back with anything to acknowledge you failed "I started the 2nd thread fish Who is doing the answering ? | |||
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"As for my point. It has always been the tv licence is great value for money to the millions who use jt. That would be debatable depending on what you want to watch. What isnt debatable is that it is very poor value for those that dont use it. I dont & never will use a prison. Shall we let all the criminals go free because its poor valuefor myself. I say myself, as i cant vouch for you. Lol the gift that keeps on giving. It was a valiant attempt OP at trying to convince others that the the TV licence fee should remain. Unfortunately it seems most people disagree with your opinion. Never mind I'm sure you will keep us all enthralled with pointless statistics and mediocre banter. Good luck though.
Pointless statistics ?
What are you babbling about ?
Viewing figures are not pointless.
Mediocre banter is far better than
Contemplating self harm reading yours & others
banal doodles
Lol still waffling I see.
Just following your lead
I dont think you have offered anything at all to
The thread other than the opportunity
For some to ridicule you
Lol shite banter. But feel free to ridicule
I would if you were worthy.
Im only replying because i was bought up with good manners
I think you are replying due to need for argument
Lol good manners. The original argument was abolish the licence fee. Before you started with name calling.
You seem to be the only one biting
Biting
Im just returning the pointless serve you are
Playing at a game that isnt tennis
Still on the hook I see
It seems you are
Here Fishy Fish
Still on the hook I see.
You seem to reply to my every post lol.
Are you a little obsessed with me
Comment back with anything to acknowledge you failed
I started the 2nd thread fish
Who is doing the answering ?
"Yet stupidly you reply pandering to my pedantic comments in the hope that it will actually achieve something. For someone that started a credible debate, you quickly and easily fell into the moronic depths of meaningless text tennis. Lol you can't help it. Your definitely obsessed with me.
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"Back on topic. For those that are claiming that the bbc is great value for money, do you know that 16,000 bbc staff are currently not working and at home on full pay? Other than missing eastenders can you tell the difference? Do you know about the revolving door at the bbc that saw 700 people made redundant, recieve redundancy pay (over £10m apparently), and then get rehired soon after? As i have already said the bbc is hemorrhaging money. It is wasted (siphoned off?) looking after themselves. There is a channel on youtube that exposes the bbc using F.O.I. requests and the presenters experience and knowledge of its internal workings. https://youtu.be/EfqTMmGFU7A I would reccomend watching the full video however for a quick overview of the waste jump to 3 mins 35 seconds. This guy has been exposing the bbc for the last 8 years and has lots of videos for all to see. " Some interesting stuff. The money is certainly not getting spent on viewing quality or content. The licence fee is now being scrutinised by the public, with more and more asking for it to be abolished. | |||
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"The BBC is typical of government owned organisations which are always wasteful, badly run and inefficient. Unlike commercial organisations there is no pressure to provide a better service than a rival. Does anyone remember what British Rail was like prior to privatisation? Every train was filthy and ran late. Or the GPO? 'Yes, you can have a phone line, we'll install it in 9 months'. I had a company providing research services to the Defence Research Agency (government owned). For most of my 25 years, I wrote research proposals to staff who in the main were third rate scientists. We did the work, provided a report from which they removed our names and put their own on, and submitted it to their customer as their own work. We typically received 10% of the award. Their 90% paid for a bloated organisation and for the scientists to sit on their arses playing Quake on the corporate computer. My attitude? Like the taxpayer's revolt in California, get rid of them, including the BBC. Where appropriate, replace with a minimal government staff who can fund young and hungry companies to produce quality television, research, novel transport, medicine or whatever. I'm not arguing that BBC don't produce some good programmes. They bloody well should on the money they get. I'm suggesting that ITV or whoever produce as good or better ones, with no tax on the public." Agreed..companies are much more efficient and cheaper.. I mean just look at the rail and utility sectors.. no problems there what so ever. And look at what a great job they have done of the probation service. And I'm sure that issue with the likes of carillion going bust leaving a half built hospital and the tax payer having to bail them out was a once off. | |||
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"The BBC is typical of government owned organisations which are always wasteful, badly run and inefficient. Unlike commercial organisations there is no pressure to provide a better service than a rival. Does anyone remember what British Rail was like prior to privatisation? Every train was filthy and ran late. Or the GPO? 'Yes, you can have a phone line, we'll install it in 9 months'. I had a company providing research services to the Defence Research Agency (government owned). For most of my 25 years, I wrote research proposals to staff who in the main were third rate scientists. We did the work, provided a report from which they removed our names and put their own on, and submitted it to their customer as their own work. We typically received 10% of the award. Their 90% paid for a bloated organisation and for the scientists to sit on their arses playing Quake on the corporate computer. My attitude? Like the taxpayer's revolt in California, get rid of them, including the BBC. Where appropriate, replace with a minimal government staff who can fund young and hungry companies to produce quality television, research, novel transport, medicine or whatever. I'm not arguing that BBC don't produce some good programmes. They bloody well should on the money they get. I'm suggesting that ITV or whoever produce as good or better ones, with no tax on the public. Agreed..companies are much more efficient and cheaper.. I mean just look at the rail and utility sectors.. no problems there what so ever. And look at what a great job they have done of the probation service. And I'm sure that issue with the likes of carillion going bust leaving a half built hospital and the tax payer having to bail them out was a once off." They are indeed. And of course the type 43 contract, run by the government, was a triumph wasn't it? There will inevitably be individual cases needing review and improvement. If you believe having everything provided by the government is a good idea, look to the USSR. | |||
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"Many watch the BBC and listen to there radio stations,I do and many others I know.Much prefer the content to that of say Sky or Netflix that turn out American crap in the main without any interlect" * intellect I find Netflix' content far superior to that of the BBC's. How many reality tv shows do the bbc pump out every year? Lowest denominator tv right there. I'm all for a license fee but i want to see the BBC reigned in, no need to have so many websites or channels. Bbc news service (despite what people think) is a world leading standard, the 24 hour bbc news tv channel is very poor at reflecting this, with shallow bite sized new stories filling the majority of its air time. I also think the inflated wages of tv personalities is a disgrace. | |||
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"The BBC is typical of government owned organisations which are always wasteful, badly run and inefficient. Unlike commercial organisations there is no pressure to provide a better service than a rival. Does anyone remember what British Rail was like prior to privatisation? Every train was filthy and ran late. Or the GPO? 'Yes, you can have a phone line, we'll install it in 9 months'. I had a company providing research services to the Defence Research Agency (government owned). For most of my 25 years, I wrote research proposals to staff who in the main were third rate scientists. We did the work, provided a report from which they removed our names and put their own on, and submitted it to their customer as their own work. We typically received 10% of the award. Their 90% paid for a bloated organisation and for the scientists to sit on their arses playing Quake on the corporate computer. My attitude? Like the taxpayer's revolt in California, get rid of them, including the BBC. Where appropriate, replace with a minimal government staff who can fund young and hungry companies to produce quality television, research, novel transport, medicine or whatever. I'm not arguing that BBC don't produce some good programmes. They bloody well should on the money they get. I'm suggesting that ITV or whoever produce as good or better ones, with no tax on the public. Agreed..companies are much more efficient and cheaper.. I mean just look at the rail and utility sectors.. no problems there what so ever. And look at what a great job they have done of the probation service. And I'm sure that issue with the likes of carillion going bust leaving a half built hospital and the tax payer having to bail them out was a once off. They are indeed. And of course the type 43 contract, run by the government, was a triumph wasn't it? There will inevitably be individual cases needing review and improvement. If you believe having everything provided by the government is a good idea, look to the USSR." And if you think everything from by big business is a triumph look at the America. The difference between bbc and ITV for example is astronomical in terms of quality | |||
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"The BBC is typical of government owned organisations which are always wasteful, badly run and inefficient. Unlike commercial organisations there is no pressure to provide a better service than a rival. Does anyone remember what British Rail was like prior to privatisation? Every train was filthy and ran late. Or the GPO? 'Yes, you can have a phone line, we'll install it in 9 months'. I had a company providing research services to the Defence Research Agency (government owned). For most of my 25 years, I wrote research proposals to staff who in the main were third rate scientists. We did the work, provided a report from which they removed our names and put their own on, and submitted it to their customer as their own work. We typically received 10% of the award. Their 90% paid for a bloated organisation and for the scientists to sit on their arses playing Quake on the corporate computer. My attitude? Like the taxpayer's revolt in California, get rid of them, including the BBC. Where appropriate, replace with a minimal government staff who can fund young and hungry companies to produce quality television, research, novel transport, medicine or whatever. I'm not arguing that BBC don't produce some good programmes. They bloody well should on the money they get. I'm suggesting that ITV or whoever produce as good or better ones, with no tax on the public. Agreed..companies are much more efficient and cheaper.. I mean just look at the rail and utility sectors.. no problems there what so ever. And look at what a great job they have done of the probation service. And I'm sure that issue with the likes of carillion going bust leaving a half built hospital and the tax payer having to bail them out was a once off. They are indeed. And of course the type 43 contract, run by the government, was a triumph wasn't it? There will inevitably be individual cases needing review and improvement. If you believe having everything provided by the government is a good idea, look to the USSR. And if you think everything from by big business is a triumph look at the America. The difference between bbc and ITV for example is astronomical in terms of quality " I wonder why it is then that America is the no.1 destination for economic migrants? Could it possibly be that in a well run capitalist and democratic society, even the poor do better than in socialist states? No system is perfect, but I'd suggest that what is needed in the UK is less government, not more. The BBC should go, or be pared down to the bone. | |||
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"The BBC is typical of government owned organisations which are always wasteful, badly run and inefficient. Unlike commercial organisations there is no pressure to provide a better service than a rival. Does anyone remember what British Rail was like prior to privatisation? Every train was filthy and ran late. Or the GPO? 'Yes, you can have a phone line, we'll install it in 9 months'. I had a company providing research services to the Defence Research Agency (government owned). For most of my 25 years, I wrote research proposals to staff who in the main were third rate scientists. We did the work, provided a report from which they removed our names and put their own on, and submitted it to their customer as their own work. We typically received 10% of the award. Their 90% paid for a bloated organisation and for the scientists to sit on their arses playing Quake on the corporate computer. My attitude? Like the taxpayer's revolt in California, get rid of them, including the BBC. Where appropriate, replace with a minimal government staff who can fund young and hungry companies to produce quality television, research, novel transport, medicine or whatever. I'm not arguing that BBC don't produce some good programmes. They bloody well should on the money they get. I'm suggesting that ITV or whoever produce as good or better ones, with no tax on the public. Agreed..companies are much more efficient and cheaper.. I mean just look at the rail and utility sectors.. no problems there what so ever. And look at what a great job they have done of the probation service. And I'm sure that issue with the likes of carillion going bust leaving a half built hospital and the tax payer having to bail them out was a once off. They are indeed. And of course the type 43 contract, run by the government, was a triumph wasn't it? There will inevitably be individual cases needing review and improvement. If you believe having everything provided by the government is a good idea, look to the USSR. And if you think everything from by big business is a triumph look at the America. The difference between bbc and ITV for example is astronomical in terms of quality I wonder why it is then that America is the no.1 destination for economic migrants? Could it possibly be that in a well run capitalist and democratic society, even the poor do better than in socialist states? No system is perfect, but I'd suggest that what is needed in the UK is less government, not more. The BBC should go, or be pared down to the bone." Really? So you think if you have nothing in America you have a decent life? No access to decent health care or medicene?no social security or a safety net in place for you Where you have entire cities living on the streets? A "well run' democratic and capitalist society where the gap between rich and poor is perhaps the widest in the world. Where workers have no rights are all and the low paid have to rely on tips just to survive. No thanks. | |||
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"The BBC is typical of government owned organisations which are always wasteful, badly run and inefficient. Unlike commercial organisations there is no pressure to provide a better service than a rival. Does anyone remember what British Rail was like prior to privatisation? Every train was filthy and ran late. Or the GPO? 'Yes, you can have a phone line, we'll install it in 9 months'. I had a company providing research services to the Defence Research Agency (government owned). For most of my 25 years, I wrote research proposals to staff who in the main were third rate scientists. We did the work, provided a report from which they removed our names and put their own on, and submitted it to their customer as their own work. We typically received 10% of the award. Their 90% paid for a bloated organisation and for the scientists to sit on their arses playing Quake on the corporate computer. My attitude? Like the taxpayer's revolt in California, get rid of them, including the BBC. Where appropriate, replace with a minimal government staff who can fund young and hungry companies to produce quality television, research, novel transport, medicine or whatever. I'm not arguing that BBC don't produce some good programmes. They bloody well should on the money they get. I'm suggesting that ITV or whoever produce as good or better ones, with no tax on the public. Agreed..companies are much more efficient and cheaper.. I mean just look at the rail and utility sectors.. no problems there what so ever. And look at what a great job they have done of the probation service. And I'm sure that issue with the likes of carillion going bust leaving a half built hospital and the tax payer having to bail them out was a once off. They are indeed. And of course the type 43 contract, run by the government, was a triumph wasn't it? There will inevitably be individual cases needing review and improvement. If you believe having everything provided by the government is a good idea, look to the USSR. And if you think everything from by big business is a triumph look at the America. The difference between bbc and ITV for example is astronomical in terms of quality I wonder why it is then that America is the no.1 destination for economic migrants? Could it possibly be that in a well run capitalist and democratic society, even the poor do better than in socialist states? No system is perfect, but I'd suggest that what is needed in the UK is less government, not more. The BBC should go, or be pared down to the bone. Really? So you think if you have nothing in America you have a decent life? No access to decent health care or medicene?no social security or a safety net in place for you Where you have entire cities living on the streets? A "well run' democratic and capitalist society where the gap between rich and poor is perhaps the widest in the world. Where workers have no rights are all and the low paid have to rely on tips just to survive. No thanks." As I say, why do you think it's the world's no.1 destination for economic migrants? | |||
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"The BBC is typical of government owned organisations which are always wasteful, badly run and inefficient. Unlike commercial organisations there is no pressure to provide a better service than a rival. Does anyone remember what British Rail was like prior to privatisation? Every train was filthy and ran late. Or the GPO? 'Yes, you can have a phone line, we'll install it in 9 months'. I had a company providing research services to the Defence Research Agency (government owned). For most of my 25 years, I wrote research proposals to staff who in the main were third rate scientists. We did the work, provided a report from which they removed our names and put their own on, and submitted it to their customer as their own work. We typically received 10% of the award. Their 90% paid for a bloated organisation and for the scientists to sit on their arses playing Quake on the corporate computer. My attitude? Like the taxpayer's revolt in California, get rid of them, including the BBC. Where appropriate, replace with a minimal government staff who can fund young and hungry companies to produce quality television, research, novel transport, medicine or whatever. I'm not arguing that BBC don't produce some good programmes. They bloody well should on the money they get. I'm suggesting that ITV or whoever produce as good or better ones, with no tax on the public. Agreed..companies are much more efficient and cheaper.. I mean just look at the rail and utility sectors.. no problems there what so ever. And look at what a great job they have done of the probation service. And I'm sure that issue with the likes of carillion going bust leaving a half built hospital and the tax payer having to bail them out was a once off. They are indeed. And of course the type 43 contract, run by the government, was a triumph wasn't it? There will inevitably be individual cases needing review and improvement. If you believe having everything provided by the government is a good idea, look to the USSR. And if you think everything from by big business is a triumph look at the America. The difference between bbc and ITV for example is astronomical in terms of quality I wonder why it is then that America is the no.1 destination for economic migrants? Could it possibly be that in a well run capitalist and democratic society, even the poor do better than in socialist states? No system is perfect, but I'd suggest that what is needed in the UK is less government, not more. The BBC should go, or be pared down to the bone. Really? So you think if you have nothing in America you have a decent life? No access to decent health care or medicene?no social security or a safety net in place for you Where you have entire cities living on the streets? A "well run' democratic and capitalist society where the gap between rich and poor is perhaps the widest in the world. Where workers have no rights are all and the low paid have to rely on tips just to survive. No thanks. As I say, why do you think it's the world's no.1 destination for economic migrants?" I don't know but I certainly wouldn't want to be poor in America | |||
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" The difference between bbc and ITV for example is astronomical in terms of quality " Get Netflix then or Sky or Disney+ or Virgin or talk talk or Now or Amazon Prime or BT Vision. | |||
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"As for my point. It has always been the tv licence is great value for money to the millions who use jt. That would be debatable depending on what you want to watch. What isnt debatable is that it is very poor value for those that dont use it. I dont & never will use a prison. Shall we let all the criminals go free because its poor valuefor myself. I say myself, as i cant vouch for you. Lol the gift that keeps on giving. It was a valiant attempt OP at trying to convince others that the the TV licence fee should remain. Unfortunately it seems most people disagree with your opinion. Never mind I'm sure you will keep us all enthralled with pointless statistics and mediocre banter. Good luck though.
Pointless statistics ?
What are you babbling about ?
Viewing figures are not pointless.
Mediocre banter is far better than
Contemplating self harm reading yours & others
banal doodles
Lol still waffling I see.
Just following your lead
I dont think you have offered anything at all to
The thread other than the opportunity
For some to ridicule you
Lol shite banter. But feel free to ridicule
I would if you were worthy.
Im only replying because i was bought up with good manners
I think you are replying due to need for argument
Lol good manners. The original argument was abolish the licence fee. Before you started with name calling.
You seem to be the only one biting
Biting
Im just returning the pointless serve you are
Playing at a game that isnt tennis
Still on the hook I see
It seems you are
Here Fishy Fish
Still on the hook I see.
You seem to reply to my every post lol.
Are you a little obsessed with me
Comment back with anything to acknowledge you failed
I started the 2nd thread fish
Who is doing the answering ?
Yet stupidly you reply pandering to my pedantic comments in the hope that it will actually achieve something.
For someone that started a credible debate, you quickly and easily fell into the moronic depths of meaningless text tennis.
Lol you can't help it. Your definitely obsessed with me.
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"Many watch the BBC and listen to there radio stations,I do and many others I know.Much prefer the content to that of say Sky or Netflix that turn out American crap in the main without any interlect * intellect I find Netflix' content far superior to that of the BBC's. How many reality tv shows do the bbc pump out every year? Lowest denominator tv right there. I'm all for a license fee but i want to see the BBC reigned in, no need to have so many websites or channels. Bbc news service (despite what people think) is a world leading standard, the 24 hour bbc news tv channel is very poor at reflecting this, with shallow bite sized new stories filling the majority of its air time. I also think the inflated wages of tv personalities is a disgrace. " Could you list the BBC's Reality shows please . Id love to view them & see what there ratings are like | |||
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"The BBC is typical of government owned organisations which are always wasteful, badly run and inefficient. Unlike commercial organisations there is no pressure to provide a better service than a rival. Does anyone remember what British Rail was like prior to privatisation? Every train was filthy and ran late. Or the GPO? 'Yes, you can have a phone line, we'll install it in 9 months'. I had a company providing research services to the Defence Research Agency (government owned). For most of my 25 years, I wrote research proposals to staff who in the main were third rate scientists. We did the work, provided a report from which they removed our names and put their own on, and submitted it to their customer as their own work. We typically received 10% of the award. Their 90% paid for a bloated organisation and for the scientists to sit on their arses playing Quake on the corporate computer. My attitude? Like the taxpayer's revolt in California, get rid of them, including the BBC. Where appropriate, replace with a minimal government staff who can fund young and hungry companies to produce quality television, research, novel transport, medicine or whatever. I'm not arguing that BBC don't produce some good programmes. They bloody well should on the money they get. I'm suggesting that ITV or whoever produce as good or better ones, with no tax on the public. Agreed..companies are much more efficient and cheaper.. I mean just look at the rail and utility sectors.. no problems there what so ever. And look at what a great job they have done of the probation service. And I'm sure that issue with the likes of carillion going bust leaving a half built hospital and the tax payer having to bail them out was a once off. They are indeed. And of course the type 43 contract, run by the government, was a triumph wasn't it? There will inevitably be individual cases needing review and improvement. If you believe having everything provided by the government is a good idea, look to the USSR. And if you think everything from by big business is a triumph look at the America. The difference between bbc and ITV for example is astronomical in terms of quality I wonder why it is then that America is the no.1 destination for economic migrants? Could it possibly be that in a well run capitalist and democratic society, even the poor do better than in socialist states? No system is perfect, but I'd suggest that what is needed in the UK is less government, not more. The BBC should go, or be pared down to the bone. Really? So you think if you have nothing in America you have a decent life? No access to decent health care or medicene?no social security or a safety net in place for you Where you have entire cities living on the streets? A "well run' democratic and capitalist society where the gap between rich and poor is perhaps the widest in the world. Where workers have no rights are all and the low paid have to rely on tips just to survive. No thanks. As I say, why do you think it's the world's no.1 destination for economic migrants?" Soon to be china as the Number 1 destination. More Millionaires & Billionaires being created there year on year. | |||
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" The difference between bbc and ITV for example is astronomical in terms of quality Get Netflix then or Sky or Disney+ or Virgin or talk talk or Now or Amazon Prime or BT Vision. "How much do you pay for Netflix Sky +.or Disney + Out of curiosity ? Why any adult would want disney + is raher strange. Even with children, id be very against a world filling A childs head with fluffy whispy dreams of perfection. | |||
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"Haven't paid it for years and never will again Do you partake in other illegal activities ?" I have never paid for it either A question, though - everybody has their limit as to what they would pay for an entertainment channel. For some, it is £zero. How much would you pay? | |||
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"Haven't paid it for years and never will again Do you partake in other illegal activities ? I have never paid for it either A question, though - everybody has their limit as to what they would pay for an entertainment channel. For some, it is £zero. How much would you pay?"As the BBC is NOT just an entetainment channel I dont know if i can answer that question. | |||
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"Haven't paid it for years and never will again Do you partake in other illegal activities ?" Whats illegal about not paying licence ? | |||
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"Haven't paid it for years and never will again Do you partake in other illegal activities ? Whats illegal about not paying licence ?" Nothing . Its what happens if you are fined & fail to pay that. Think of it like the powers that be say, When talking about a bit of . Soft drugs always lead to hard drugs . I know thats not true , but plenty believe it. | |||
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" Could you list the BBC's Reality shows please . Id love to view them & see what there ratings are like " There you go . . . https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/formats/reality/all | |||
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"In 2018 the BBC promised to stop stop airing repeats as it's mainstay of programming. It said: 'We will do that in a 10 year time frame' (wtf?) Since then repeats have increased by 65%. So. Not only are we mugged by a TV licence. We are paying 63% of the time at least to see the same old shit day in day out. Fools and horses to the N'th degree. " ^^^^ Like BBC Programming it's worth a REPEAT | |||
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"Haven't paid it for years and never will again Do you partake in other illegal activities ? Whats illegal about not paying licence ? Nothing . Its what happens if you are fined & fail to pay that. Think of it like the powers that be say, When talking about a bit of . Soft drugs always lead to hard drugs . I know thats not true , but plenty believe it. " Err and what if you don't pay for a TV licence because you don't need one? There are many people who perfectly legally don't pay for this. | |||
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"So the general consensus on the forum is the tv licence fee should be abolished in favour for a subscription based service. Who'd have thought eh "May as well have started here lol.
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"So the general consensus on the forum is the tv licence fee should be abolished in favour for a subscription based service. Who'd have thought eh
May as well have started here lol.
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"So the general consensus on the forum is the tv licence fee should be abolished in favour for a subscription based service. Who'd have thought eh
May as well have started here lol.
Yep "Funny millions bought shares when Thatcher sold BT British Gas BP etc All companies doing fantastically well for private investors from all over the world . Shame the govt didnt invest in its companies & people. Still Netflix & dumbing down seem to be the way Of things , sky/fox etc all Murdochs money ( he's happy ). Keep investing in the wrong things & there is no way Britain will get the GREAT back. Thats should hook a few more Fish | |||
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"So the general consensus on the forum is the tv licence fee should be abolished in favour for a subscription based service. Who'd have thought eh
May as well have started here lol.
Yep
Funny millions bought shares when
Thatcher sold BT British Gas BP etc
All companies doing fantastically well for
private investors from all over the world .
Shame the govt didnt invest in its companies & people.
Still Netflix & dumbing down seem to be the way
Of things , sky/fox etc all Murdochs money ( he's happy ).
Keep investing in the wrong things & there is no way
Britain will get the GREAT back.
Thats should hook a few more Fish
"So tell me, how is Netflix Dumbing down anything? | |||
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"So the general consensus on the forum is the tv licence fee should be abolished in favour for a subscription based service. Who'd have thought eh
May as well have started here lol.
Yep
Funny millions bought shares when
Thatcher sold BT British Gas BP etc
All companies doing fantastically well for
private investors from all over the world .
Shame the govt didnt invest in its companies & people.
Still Netflix & dumbing down seem to be the way
Of things , sky/fox etc all Murdochs money ( he's happy ).
Keep investing in the wrong things & there is no way
Britain will get the GREAT back.
Thats should hook a few more Fish
So tell me, how is Netflix Dumbing down anything?
"Simple There is no Education . | |||
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"So the general consensus on the forum is the tv licence fee should be abolished in favour for a subscription based service. Who'd have thought eh
May as well have started here lol.
"When British TV is as crap as everywhere else maybe people will regret it. The BBC is the last world beating thing this country still has and a lot of people want to kill it. What is shite the same people believe is world beating. A sign of our times. | |||
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"So the general consensus on the forum is the tv licence fee should be abolished in favour for a subscription based service. Who'd have thought eh
May as well have started here lol.
When British TV is as crap as everywhere else maybe people will regret it. The BBC is the last world beating thing this country still has and a lot of people want to kill it. What is shite the same people believe is world beating. A sign of our times. "Well it all about choices, isn't it. You should have the choice to pay for what shite you want to watch. | |||
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" mellow fellow Man 8 minutes ago manchester The bbc sold its transmitter network in the 90's. They are rolling in our money already and wasting it left right and centre. If they didnt then perhaps people wouldnt have to top them up with their license fee and could use the money to buy their own food, if the bbc even provided food for anyone. The vast majority of people dont want the fee or care about the bbc's services. Without it, those people you are claiming it has helped during the pandemic could have been watching other channels for free. Even with the fee in place i managed to watch all the news and entertainment i needed for free further proving the bbc's irrelevance The point hey sold it is neither here nor there. The point that it was they who setup most of the media How it is used is relevant. Those who received food were people listening to local radio shows , not National or international television programming. Just to finish my tuppence worth . It was the beeb who back during darker times covered the war that many feel is why we have freedom in this country. Many feel things should not be cahnged with regards to statues etc . Many have a similar feeling to & for the BBC. If we go down the r9ute of advertised news programmes They may well claim bleach drinking is fine . So, they got public money to build the network, keep the money from selling it, and we should keep paying them for the privilege? No You are paying them to make good content for every taste. Be it a soap opera,comedy, political debate sport education kids tv etc. Think Fools & Horses Downton Abbey Peaky Blinders Question time The F.A cup final The world cup Euros Open golf Ooen University Grange hill Playschool Desert island discs Radio 1-5 Local bbc radio Have i got news for you Just a minute The Archers & a couple of thousand others. If you then want to watch netflix sky etc , whatever else, that is your choice. " If you remove the word "good" from the first sentence and take out most of the programmes listed because they're all repeats of programming made 20-30 years ago, you have a point. | |||
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"So the general consensus on the forum is the tv licence fee should be abolished in favour for a subscription based service. Who'd have thought eh
May as well have started here lol.
When British TV is as crap as everywhere else maybe people will regret it. The BBC is the last world beating thing this country still has and a lot of people want to kill it. What is shite the same people believe is world beating. A sign of our times.
Well it all about choices, isn't it.
You should have the choice to pay for what shite you want to watch.
"In the me, me, me, me, me, me and all about me society we live in, yes. We could regard the BBC as some form of collective and national institution that is worth £3 a week for every British family or we could indeed pay for any shite that we want I individually. I’ll repeat it is a sign of our times. | |||
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"So the general consensus on the forum is the tv licence fee should be abolished in favour for a subscription based service. Who'd have thought eh
May as well have started here lol.
When British TV is as crap as everywhere else maybe people will regret it. The BBC is the last world beating thing this country still has and a lot of people want to kill it. What is shite the same people believe is world beating. A sign of our times.
Well it all about choices, isn't it.
You should have the choice to pay for what shite you want to watch.
"Didnt we do the choice thing already ? I dont use prisons so i shouldnt have to pay my tax etc ? F*ck me if the country worked like that then britain would never got out of the english channel , Let alone created an empire . Good or bad at least they learnt Instead of watching shitty fantasised crap on netflix. Groans of Fames wasnt it | |||
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" In the me, me, me, me, me, me and all about me society we live in, yes. We could regard the BBC as some form of collective and national institution that is worth £3 a week for every British family or we could indeed pay for any shite that we want I individually. I’ll repeat it is a sign of our times. " I just did a make-over on my garden - it's for the public good as it helps with climate change in that it is very Bee friendly - Would you please send me a donation that you don't have a choice not to send TY.
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" In the me, me, me, me, me, me and all about me society we live in, yes. We could regard the BBC as some form of collective and national institution that is worth £3 a week for every British family or we could indeed pay for any shite that we want I individually. I’ll repeat it is a sign of our times. I just did a make-over on my garden - it's for the public good as it helps with climate change in that it is very Bee friendly - Would you please send me a donation that you don't have a choice not to send TY.
"Willingly Ive some lovely empty jam jars You can send them to the local bee keeper for local honey | |||
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"So the general consensus on the forum is the tv licence fee should be abolished in favour for a subscription based service. Who'd have thought eh
May as well have started here lol.
Yep
Funny millions bought shares when
Thatcher sold BT British Gas BP etc
All companies doing fantastically well for
private investors from all over the world .
Shame the govt didnt invest in its companies & people.
Still Netflix & dumbing down seem to be the way
Of things , sky/fox etc all Murdochs money ( he's happy ).
Keep investing in the wrong things & there is no way
Britain will get the GREAT back.
Thats should hook a few more Fish
So tell me, how is Netflix Dumbing down anything?
Simple
There is no Education .
"So documentaries don't teach huh? Never knew that - well that's poop load of wasted programming on Netflix then. | |||
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" In the me, me, me, me, me, me and all about me society we live in, yes. We could regard the BBC as some form of collective and national institution that is worth £3 a week for every British family or we could indeed pay for any shite that we want I individually. I’ll repeat it is a sign of our times. I just did a make-over on my garden - it's for the public good as it helps with climate change in that it is very Bee friendly - Would you please send me a donation that you don't have a choice not to send TY.
"I can’t quite see the link to be honest. Not sure your garden is representative of our country and its culture. | |||
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" When British TV is as crap as everywhere else maybe people will regret it. The BBC is the last world beating thing this country still has and a lot of people want to kill it. What is shite the same people believe is world beating. A sign of our times. " See - I don't want to kill the BBC at all - I just want to have the freedom of choice not to pay for it if I don't use it. If the BBC were so good at this stuff they could make a whole load more money out in the free market than they could with the license fee - so if spent wisely make new and better programming not 63% repeats. | |||
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" In the me, me, me, me, me, me and all about me society we live in, yes. We could regard the BBC as some form of collective and national institution that is worth £3 a week for every British family or we could indeed pay for any shite that we want I individually. I’ll repeat it is a sign of our times. I just did a make-over on my garden - it's for the public good as it helps with climate change in that it is very Bee friendly - Would you please send me a donation that you don't have a choice not to send TY.
I can’t quite see the link to be honest. Not sure your garden is representative of our country and its culture.
"The point is NOBODY should be forced to pay for a mediia service they don't use. | |||
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"So the general consensus on the forum is the tv licence fee should be abolished in favour for a subscription based service. Who'd have thought eh
May as well have started here lol.
Yep
Funny millions bought shares when
Thatcher sold BT British Gas BP etc
All companies doing fantastically well for
private investors from all over the world .
Shame the govt didnt invest in its companies & people.
Still Netflix & dumbing down seem to be the way
Of things , sky/fox etc all Murdochs money ( he's happy ).
Keep investing in the wrong things & there is no way
Britain will get the GREAT back.
Thats should hook a few more Fish
So tell me, how is Netflix Dumbing down anything?
Simple
There is no Education .
So documentaries don't teach huh? Never knew that - well that's poop load of wasted programming on Netflix then."Who mentioned documentaries ? Im talking University , schools , buisness . Not some producer/directors version of some Random piece of knowledge . F*ck me how was this country ever called great With people who dont understand what the bbc really is ? War veterans would be turning in there graves at the stupidity | |||
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" When British TV is as crap as everywhere else maybe people will regret it. The BBC is the last world beating thing this country still has and a lot of people want to kill it. What is shite the same people believe is world beating. A sign of our times. See - I don't want to kill the BBC at all - I just want to have the freedom of choice not to pay for it if I don't use it. If the BBC were so good at this stuff they could make a whole load more money out in the free market than they could with the license fee - so if spent wisely make new and better programming not 63% repeats." Yes we know it’s quality that attracts customers. That’s why the Sun and the Daily Mail are the most read papers in this country. | |||
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" When British TV is as crap as everywhere else maybe people will regret it. The BBC is the last world beating thing this country still has and a lot of people want to kill it. What is shite the same people believe is world beating. A sign of our times. See - I don't want to kill the BBC at all - I just want to have the freedom of choice not to pay for it if I don't use it. If the BBC were so good at this stuff they could make a whole load more money out in the free market than they could with the license fee - so if spent wisely make new and better programming not 63% repeats." Do you have the same choice with other taxes ? Or can you pick to donate those to netflix as well ? | |||
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" In the me, me, me, me, me, me and all about me society we live in, yes. We could regard the BBC as some form of collective and national institution that is worth £3 a week for every British family or we could indeed pay for any shite that we want I individually. I’ll repeat it is a sign of our times. I just did a make-over on my garden - it's for the public good as it helps with climate change in that it is very Bee friendly - Would you please send me a donation that you don't have a choice not to send TY.
I can’t quite see the link to be honest. Not sure your garden is representative of our country and its culture.
The point is NOBODY should be forced to pay for a mediia service they don't use."Its not just a Media service !! | |||
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"So the general consensus on the forum is the tv licence fee should be abolished in favour for a subscription based service. Who'd have thought eh
May as well have started here lol.
Yep
Funny millions bought shares when
Thatcher sold BT British Gas BP etc
All companies doing fantastically well for
private investors from all over the world .
Shame the govt didnt invest in its companies & people.
Still Netflix & dumbing down seem to be the way
Of things , sky/fox etc all Murdochs money ( he's happy ).
Keep investing in the wrong things & there is no way
Britain will get the GREAT back.
Thats should hook a few more Fish
So tell me, how is Netflix Dumbing down anything?
Simple
There is no Education .
So documentaries don't teach huh? Never knew that - well that's poop load of wasted programming on Netflix then.
Who mentioned documentaries ?
Im talking University , schools , buisness .
Not some producer/directors version of some
Random piece of knowledge .
F*ck me how was this country ever called great
With people who dont understand what the bbc really is ?
War veterans would be turning in
there graves at the stupidity"I couldn’t agree more. Having said this, you can’t blame stupid people for not knowing they are stupid. It goes with the territory. When you have to justify the value of something like the BBC you know that society is in a great place!!  | |||
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"So the general consensus on the forum is the tv licence fee should be abolished in favour for a subscription based service. Who'd have thought eh
May as well have started here lol.
Yep
Funny millions bought shares when
Thatcher sold BT British Gas BP etc
All companies doing fantastically well for
private investors from all over the world .
Shame the govt didnt invest in its companies & people.
Still Netflix & dumbing down seem to be the way
Of things , sky/fox etc all Murdochs money ( he's happy ).
Keep investing in the wrong things & there is no way
Britain will get the GREAT back.
Thats should hook a few more Fish
So tell me, how is Netflix Dumbing down anything?
Simple
There is no Education .
So documentaries don't teach huh? Never knew that - well that's poop load of wasted programming on Netflix then.
Who mentioned documentaries ?
Im talking University , schools , buisness .
Not some producer/directors version of some
Random piece of knowledge .
F*ck me how was this country ever called great
With people who dont understand what the bbc really is ?
War veterans would be turning in
there graves at the stupidity"Documentaries Educate. Every programme EVER made is a producer perspective on anything !! The choice the BBC made not to highlight Climate Change for more than 20 years because 'it wasn't sexy TV' is an educational opportunity missed by planning. And stop pretending only you know what the BBC is - such a childish repose. War Veterans? If still alive would have representatives in the 93% of people surveyed that say the BBC should be Advert or Subcription by choice. | |||
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" I couldn’t agree more. Having said this, you can’t blame stupid people for not knowing they are stupid. " There you go again - calling names with no justification. A bit sophomore really isn't ? | |||
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" I couldn’t agree more. Having said this, you can’t blame stupid people for not knowing they are stupid. There you go again - calling names with no justification. A bit sophomore really isn't ? " Do you mean like saying that somebody’s post is childish? I maintain that stupid people don’t know they’re stupid. It’s MY opinion in our me, me, me society. | |||
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" I couldn’t agree more. Having said this, you can’t blame stupid people for not knowing they are stupid. There you go again - calling names with no justification. A bit sophomore really isn't ? Do you mean like saying that somebody’s post is childish? " Actually. Yes. Fits perfectly. | |||
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" I couldn’t agree more. Having said this, you can’t blame stupid people for not knowing they are stupid. There you go again - calling names with no justification. A bit sophomore really isn't ? " Any chance of a reply on the quality of the Sun and the Mail instead of being obfuscated by trivial things? | |||
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"So the general consensus on the forum is the tv licence fee should be abolished in favour for a subscription based service. Who'd have thought eh
May as well have started here lol.
Yep
Funny millions bought shares when
Thatcher sold BT British Gas BP etc
All companies doing fantastically well for
private investors from all over the world .
Shame the govt didnt invest in its companies & people.
Still Netflix & dumbing down seem to be the way
Of things , sky/fox etc all Murdochs money ( he's happy ).
Keep investing in the wrong things & there is no way
Britain will get the GREAT back.
Thats should hook a few more Fish
So tell me, how is Netflix Dumbing down anything?
Simple
There is no Education .
So documentaries don't teach huh? Never knew that - well that's poop load of wasted programming on Netflix then.
Who mentioned documentaries ?
Im talking University , schools , buisness .
Not some producer/directors version of some
Random piece of knowledge .
F*ck me how was this country ever called great
With people who dont understand what the bbc really is ?
War veterans would be turning in
there graves at the stupidity
Documentaries Educate.
Every programme EVER made is a producer perspective on anything !!
The choice the BBC made not to highlight Climate Change for more than 20 years because 'it wasn't sexy TV' is an educational opportunity missed by planning.
And stop pretending only you know what the BBC is - such a childish repose.
War Veterans? If still alive would have representatives in the 93% of people surveyed that say the BBC should be Advert or Subcription by choice.
"Youve not watched a lot off bbc then have you Ahh bless Nature programmes telling the world for the last 45+years the damage being done. Still you choose to keep educating yourself how you like Ill listen & learn from people involved in proper education, the university & schools Of this world. Not from netflix or from murdochs tainted view Thanks very much Oh another made up statistic from you 93% of your poll says . How many were there. 20 ? 87 % of the population Have had the BBC on in there household this year | |||
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" I couldn’t agree more. Having said this, you can’t blame stupid people for not knowing they are stupid. There you go again - calling names with no justification. A bit sophomore really isn't ? " Sophomore
Wait
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" I couldn’t agree more. Having said this, you can’t blame stupid people for not knowing they are stupid. There you go again - calling names with no justification. A bit sophomore really isn't ? Do you mean like saying that somebody’s post is childish? Actually. Yes. Fits perfectly." So you don’t mind telling people they’re childish but you have a problem with people describe other posts as stupid Do as I say but don’t do as I do comes to mind. | |||
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" Me, me, me and me ffs! You can keep saying it - but it doesn't mean anything. " It’s a bit like the stupid people who don’t know they’re stupid. The ne, me, me people don’t realise they are all about me, me, me. | |||
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" Me, me, me and me ffs! You can keep saying it - but it doesn't mean anything. It’s a bit like the stupid people who don’t know they’re stupid. The ne, me, me people don’t realise they are all about me, me, me. "oh dear! | |||
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" I couldn’t agree more. Having said this, you can’t blame stupid people for not knowing they are stupid. There you go again - calling names with no justification. A bit sophomore really isn't ? Do you mean like saying that somebody’s post is childish? Actually. Yes. Fits perfectly. So you don’t mind telling people they’re childish but you have a problem with people describe other posts as stupid Do as I say but don’t do as I do comes to mind." It still fits perfectly - If only you were bright enough . . . oh shoop there was me nearly behaving like you lol . | |||
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" Me, me, me and me ffs! You can keep saying it - but it doesn't mean anything. It’s a bit like the stupid people who don’t know they’re stupid. The ne, me, me people don’t realise they are all about me, me, me.
oh dear! "Yes. Exactly the way I feel when I read some of the posts here. I feel your pain. Still thinking about a reply about the quality of the Sun? Looking forward to reading an answer. | |||
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"So the general consensus on the forum is the tv licence fee should be abolished in favour for a subscription based service. Who'd have thought eh
May as well have started here lol.
When British TV is as crap as everywhere else maybe people will regret it. The BBC is the last world beating thing this country still has and a lot of people want to kill it. What is shite the same people believe is world beating. A sign of our times.
Well it all about choices, isn't it.
You should have the choice to pay for what shite you want to watch.
In the me, me, me, me, me, me and all about me society we live in, yes. We could regard the BBC as some form of collective and national institution that is worth £3 a week for every British family or we could indeed pay for any shite that we want I individually. I’ll repeat it is a sign of our times. "A national institution that seems is no longer valid in the modern world of veiwing entertainment. Times have changed, moved forward and will continue to do so. | |||
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" Yes. Exactly the way I feel when I read some of the posts here. I feel your pain. Still thinking about a reply about the quality of the Sun? Looking forward to reading an answer. " The Sun? Not the Sun Newspaper? (yuk spit) | |||
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" I couldn’t agree more. Having said this, you can’t blame stupid people for not knowing they are stupid. There you go again - calling names with no justification. A bit sophomore really isn't ? Do you mean like saying that somebody’s post is childish? Actually. Yes. Fits perfectly. So you don’t mind telling people they’re childish but you have a problem with people describe other posts as stupid Do as I say but don’t do as I do comes to mind. It still fits perfectly - If only you were bright enough . . . oh shoop there was me nearly behaving like you lol . "Yes. We live in a world where thickos outnumber people who look further than their belly buttons and that’s how you end up with Trump or Johnson. Think about it. It makes perfect t sense. | |||
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" Yes. Exactly the way I feel when I read some of the posts here. I feel your pain. Still thinking about a reply about the quality of the Sun? Looking forward to reading an answer. The Sun? Not the Sun Newspaper? (yuk spit)" You know exactly what I mean. So your bs about if the BBC was so good it would attract a lot of viewers without the tv license still needs to be argumented. I’m still waiting. But you can also whinge about people the word stupid in their posts if you need a cop out. | |||
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" Yes. Exactly the way I feel when I read some of the posts here. I feel your pain. Still thinking about a reply about the quality of the Sun? Looking forward to reading an answer. The Sun? Not the Sun Newspaper? (yuk spit) You know exactly what I mean. So your bs about if the BBC was so good it would attract a lot of viewers without the tv license still needs to be argumented. I’m still waiting. But you can also whinge about people the word stupid in their posts if you need a cop out. "Do you ever talk to anyone without sacastic peppering? Well it's simple really. Once upon a time the BBC came into existance as an idea. Let's pick today as that day. They set up a company and call it the BBC. They make programmes for people to watch and those programmes are great and very high quality. Andd because they are. People want to watch them. And becuase they are people want to buy into the service. Do I really need to carry on? | |||
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" Yes. Exactly the way I feel when I read some of the posts here. I feel your pain. Still thinking about a reply about the quality of the Sun? Looking forward to reading an answer. The Sun? Not the Sun Newspaper? (yuk spit) You know exactly what I mean. So your bs about if the BBC was so good it would attract a lot of viewers without the tv license still needs to be argumented. I’m still waiting. But you can also whinge about people the word stupid in their posts if you need a cop out.
Do you ever talk to anyone without sacastic peppering?
Well it's simple really.
Once upon a time the BBC came into existance as an idea. Let's pick today as that day.
They set up a company and call it the BBC.
They make programmes for people to watch and those programmes are great and very high quality. Andd because they are. People want to watch them. And becuase they are people want to buy into the service.
Do I really need to carry on?"Being sarcastic is one of the best British assets. When you tell people they are childish, try not to be offended too easily. A bit of your own medicine as we say. Maybe you need to toughen up a bit. Usually BBC haters use the word snowflake very easily. It looks like some of them are too! Do you remember how many hundreds of channels there were when the BBC was created? Tough competition wasn’t it? Sorry for the sarcasm. Still nothing on our quality papers who top our newspapers circulation! | |||
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"Anyways - back later for more giggles - shopping calls - YAY!!!! "We all need a bit of thinking times sometimes. Shopping provides it! | |||
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" Yes. Exactly the way I feel when I read some of the posts here. I feel your pain. Still thinking about a reply about the quality of the Sun? Looking forward to reading an answer. The Sun? Not the Sun Newspaper? (yuk spit) You know exactly what I mean. So your bs about if the BBC was so good it would attract a lot of viewers without the tv license still needs to be argumented. I’m still waiting. But you can also whinge about people the word stupid in their posts if you need a cop out.
Do you ever talk to anyone without sacastic peppering?
Well it's simple really.
Once upon a time the BBC came into existance as an idea. Let's pick today as that day.
They set up a company and call it the BBC.
They make programmes for people to watch and those programmes are great and very high quality. Andd because they are. People want to watch them. And becuase they are people want to buy into the service.
Do I really need to carry on?
Being sarcastic is one of the best British assets. When you tell people they are childish, try not to be offended too easily. A bit of your own medicine as we say. Maybe you need to toughen up a bit. Usually BBC haters use the word snowflake very easily. It looks like some of them are too!
Do you remember how many hundreds of channels there were when the BBC was created? Tough competition wasn’t it? Sorry for the sarcasm.
Still nothing on our quality papers who top our newspapers circulation!
"Waiting for my partner to stop preening lol. 1. There is nothing on FAB or any other forum that could ever upset me in any way shape or form. 2. I genuinely haven't got a clue about what you mean about newspapers - haven't read one since I was 19 however. 3. Anyone who uses the word snowflake is actually very short of having an argument with anyone but the cat or a mirror. It's a sad debilitating word. It's a cop-out word. It really needs to be consigned to internet history. Sorry if I don't fit your description.
But I will await more sarcasm and giggle while I read it.
Now. Really do have to go.
Thinking time when shopping? Nooooo! Shopping is fun. Don't want to be thinking. Just having fun with my Beau out in the real world.
Sunny too now.
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" Yes. Exactly the way I feel when I read some of the posts here. I feel your pain. Still thinking about a reply about the quality of the Sun? Looking forward to reading an answer. The Sun? Not the Sun Newspaper? (yuk spit) You know exactly what I mean. So your bs about if the BBC was so good it would attract a lot of viewers without the tv license still needs to be argumented. I’m still waiting. But you can also whinge about people the word stupid in their posts if you need a cop out.
Do you ever talk to anyone without sacastic peppering?
Well it's simple really.
Once upon a time the BBC came into existance as an idea. Let's pick today as that day.
They set up a company and call it the BBC.
They make programmes for people to watch and those programmes are great and very high quality. Andd because they are. People want to watch them. And becuase they are people want to buy into the service.
Do I really need to carry on?
Being sarcastic is one of the best British assets. When you tell people they are childish, try not to be offended too easily. A bit of your own medicine as we say. Maybe you need to toughen up a bit. Usually BBC haters use the word snowflake very easily. It looks like some of them are too!
Do you remember how many hundreds of channels there were when the BBC was created? Tough competition wasn’t it? Sorry for the sarcasm.
Still nothing on our quality papers who top our newspapers circulation!
Waiting for my partner to stop preening lol.
1. There is nothing on FAB or any other forum that could ever upset me in any way shape or form.
2. I genuinely haven't got a clue about what you mean about newspapers - haven't read one since I was 19 however.
3. Anyone who uses the word snowflake is actually very short of having an argument with anyone but the cat or a mirror. It's a sad debilitating word. It's a cop-out word. It really needs to be consigned to internet history.
Sorry if I don't fit your description.
But I will await more sarcasm and giggle while I read it.
Now. Really do have to go.
Thinking time when shopping? Nooooo! Shopping is fun. Don't want to be thinking. Just having fun with my Beau out in the real world.
Sunny too now.
"Certainly not intending to have an argument with anyone. And as I love cats, it is even less likely. So I’ll try again with this Sun thing. You are telling us that if the BBC was so great it would thrive and attract a lot of viewers. I’m telling you that commercial success rarely depends on quality. If it was the case how can you explain that the shitty papers like the Sun and the Mail sell 20 times more papers than the Guardian or the Telegraph? You then carried on by telling us how things started for the Beeb. My response is that when it started it didn’t have to compete with hundreds of other channels. So your comparison is completely pointless. | |||
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"I have read on these BBC threads that some seem to believe that the "BBC is respected worldwide". I think that is not true any more. I have lived and worked in many countries. Sure, the BBC logo flashes up at the end of Downton Abbey but nobody really knows about the BBC anymore than they know about NNN, Kan 11 or HBO. There is also the implication that the BBC World Service is listened to assiduously - maybe those that think this believe that the poor natives of whatever country are huddled around their crystal sets in their mud huts gasping in amazement at the words uttered in the dulcet tones of the BBC presenters. Again, not true. They all have cellphones like every one else." Natural History programmes? The Brits are world renowned for this and it’s mainly due to the BBC. If the BBC is not as good as it used, I can also be argued that it has to compete with channels which don’t have the same ‘overhead costs’ or which are not community orientated as the beeb. I don’t where you’ve lived but have you found a non subsidised channel as good as the BBC? If yes, I’d love to know where. | |||
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"By the way, I wonder when was the last time Netflix produced community programmes for the community such as Red Nose Day or Children in Need? It’s funny because I watch a lot of French tv and it’s also the channels that are subsidised by the tv licence that make this type of programmes.m, never the private companies like Netflix, Sky etc.. is that because their only purpose is to make dosh and they don’t regard their role as being a community player? So shall we start comparing things which are comparable? I’m also certain that I can’t count on Netflix to provide with me two daily news bulletins about the Bristol region. All these regional news cost a fortune and they are a public service. Netflix or Sky don’t give a toss about regional news.It wouldn’t fill up their bank accounts. " The decline in interest has dwindled over the years since the inception of CIN and Red Nose Day. Yes they bring in large charitable sums but not like they used to back in the beginning. The all day events are now cut down to a 2/3 hour slot. There just isn't the demand for it anymore. People will spend thier money how they please. These events can try and get people to give donations however its easier to change the channel now and just forget about it. | |||
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"By the way, I wonder when was the last time Netflix produced community programmes for the community such as Red Nose Day or Children in Need? It’s funny because I watch a lot of French tv and it’s also the channels that are subsidised by the tv licence that make this type of programmes.m, never the private companies like Netflix, Sky etc.. is that because their only purpose is to make dosh and they don’t regard their role as being a community player? So shall we start comparing things which are comparable? I’m also certain that I can’t count on Netflix to provide with me two daily news bulletins about the Bristol region. All these regional news cost a fortune and they are a public service. Netflix or Sky don’t give a toss about regional news.It wouldn’t fill up their bank accounts. The decline in interest has dwindled over the years since the inception of CIN and Red Nose Day. Yes they bring in large charitable sums but not like they used to back in the beginning. The all day events are now cut down to a 2/3 hour slot. There just isn't the demand for it anymore. People will spend thier money how they please. These events can try and get people to give donations however its easier to change the channel now and just forget about it. " You’re probably right but it’s not because it’s not as good as it used to be that we should ditch or let it get worse. | |||
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"I have read on these BBC threads that some seem to believe that the "BBC is respected worldwide". I think that is not true any more. I have lived and worked in many countries. Sure, the BBC logo flashes up at the end of Downton Abbey but nobody really knows about the BBC anymore than they know about NNN, Kan 11 or HBO. There is also the implication that the BBC World Service is listened to assiduously - maybe those that think this believe that the poor natives of whatever country are huddled around their crystal sets in their mud huts gasping in amazement at the words uttered in the dulcet tones of the BBC presenters. Again, not true. They all have cellphones like every one else. Natural History programmes? The Brits are world renowned for this and it’s mainly due to the BBC. If the BBC is not as good as it used, I can also be argued that it has to compete with channels which don’t have the same ‘overhead costs’ or which are not community orientated as the beeb. " As I said - nobody knows about the BBC, they just watch the programmes. National Geographic channel is world renowned for its natural history documentaries as well. How much tv do you need? | |||
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"I have read on these BBC threads that some seem to believe that the "BBC is respected worldwide". I think that is not true any more. I have lived and worked in many countries. Sure, the BBC logo flashes up at the end of Downton Abbey but nobody really knows about the BBC anymore than they know about NNN, Kan 11 or HBO. There is also the implication that the BBC World Service is listened to assiduously - maybe those that think this believe that the poor natives of whatever country are huddled around their crystal sets in their mud huts gasping in amazement at the words uttered in the dulcet tones of the BBC presenters. Again, not true. They all have cellphones like every one else. Natural History programmes? The Brits are world renowned for this and it’s mainly due to the BBC. If the BBC is not as good as it used, I can also be argued that it has to compete with channels which don’t have the same ‘overhead costs’ or which are not community orientated as the beeb. As I said - nobody knows about the BBC, they just watch the programmes. National Geographic channel is world renowned for its natural history documentaries as well. How much tv do you need? " True about National Geographic which is the other big player. | |||
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"I have read on these BBC threads that some seem to believe that the "BBC is respected worldwide". I think that is not true any more. I have lived and worked in many countries. Sure, the BBC logo flashes up at the end of Downton Abbey but nobody really knows about the BBC anymore than they know about NNN, Kan 11 or HBO. There is also the implication that the BBC World Service is listened to assiduously - maybe those that think this believe that the poor natives of whatever country are huddled around their crystal sets in their mud huts gasping in amazement at the words uttered in the dulcet tones of the BBC presenters. Again, not true. They all have cellphones like every one else. Natural History programmes? The Brits are world renowned for this and it’s mainly due to the BBC. If the BBC is not as good as it used, I can also be argued that it has to compete with channels which don’t have the same ‘overhead costs’ or which are not community orientated as the beeb. I don’t where you’ve lived but have you found a non subsidised channel as good as the BBC? If yes, I’d love to know where. " I could list you several, in Japan, Israel and much of Africa. The definition of "good" varies from country to country because people are different. The world is not as BBC-centric as you may think! | |||
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"I have read on these BBC threads that some seem to believe that the "BBC is respected worldwide". I think that is not true any more. I have lived and worked in many countries. Sure, the BBC logo flashes up at the end of Downton Abbey but nobody really knows about the BBC anymore than they know about NNN, Kan 11 or HBO. There is also the implication that the BBC World Service is listened to assiduously - maybe those that think this believe that the poor natives of whatever country are huddled around their crystal sets in their mud huts gasping in amazement at the words uttered in the dulcet tones of the BBC presenters. Again, not true. They all have cellphones like every one else. Natural History programmes? The Brits are world renowned for this and it’s mainly due to the BBC. If the BBC is not as good as it used, I can also be argued that it has to compete with channels which don’t have the same ‘overhead costs’ or which are not community orientated as the beeb. I don’t where you’ve lived but have you found a non subsidised channel as good as the BBC? If yes, I’d love to know where. I could list you several, in Japan, Israel and much of Africa. The definition of "good" varies from country to country because people are different. The world is not as BBC-centric as you may think!" ‘Good’ was probably the wrong word to use. Varied and eclectic would have been more appropriate. | |||
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"I have read on these BBC threads that some seem to believe that the "BBC is respected worldwide". I think that is not true any more. I have lived and worked in many countries. Sure, the BBC logo flashes up at the end of Downton Abbey but nobody really knows about the BBC anymore than they know about NNN, Kan 11 or HBO. There is also the implication that the BBC World Service is listened to assiduously - maybe those that think this believe that the poor natives of whatever country are huddled around their crystal sets in their mud huts gasping in amazement at the words uttered in the dulcet tones of the BBC presenters. Again, not true. They all have cellphones like every one else. Natural History programmes? The Brits are world renowned for this and it’s mainly due to the BBC. If the BBC is not as good as it used, I can also be argued that it has to compete with channels which don’t have the same ‘overhead costs’ or which are not community orientated as the beeb. As I said - nobody knows about the BBC, they just watch the programmes. National Geographic channel is world renowned for its natural history documentaries as well. How much tv do you need? True about National Geographic which is the other big player. " Discovery, PBS, Reshet 13 - just a few that produce laudable documentaries. | |||
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"I have read on these BBC threads that some seem to believe that the "BBC is respected worldwide". I think that is not true any more. I have lived and worked in many countries. Sure, the BBC logo flashes up at the end of Downton Abbey but nobody really knows about the BBC anymore than they know about NNN, Kan 11 or HBO. There is also the implication that the BBC World Service is listened to assiduously - maybe those that think this believe that the poor natives of whatever country are huddled around their crystal sets in their mud huts gasping in amazement at the words uttered in the dulcet tones of the BBC presenters. Again, not true. They all have cellphones like every one else. Natural History programmes? The Brits are world renowned for this and it’s mainly due to the BBC. If the BBC is not as good as it used, I can also be argued that it has to compete with channels which don’t have the same ‘overhead costs’ or which are not community orientated as the beeb. As I said - nobody knows about the BBC, they just watch the programmes. National Geographic channel is world renowned for its natural history documentaries as well. How much tv do you need? True about National Geographic which is the other big player. Discovery, PBS, Reshet 13 - just a few that produce laudable documentaries." It’s a world I know very well ... 
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"I have read on these BBC threads that some seem to believe that the "BBC is respected worldwide". I think that is not true any more. I have lived and worked in many countries. Sure, the BBC logo flashes up at the end of Downton Abbey but nobody really knows about the BBC anymore than they know about NNN, Kan 11 or HBO. There is also the implication that the BBC World Service is listened to assiduously - maybe those that think this believe that the poor natives of whatever country are huddled around their crystal sets in their mud huts gasping in amazement at the words uttered in the dulcet tones of the BBC presenters. Again, not true. They all have cellphones like every one else. Natural History programmes? The Brits are world renowned for this and it’s mainly due to the BBC. If the BBC is not as good as it used, I can also be argued that it has to compete with channels which don’t have the same ‘overhead costs’ or which are not community orientated as the beeb. As I said - nobody knows about the BBC, they just watch the programmes. National Geographic channel is world renowned for its natural history documentaries as well. How much tv do you need? True about National Geographic which is the other big player. Discovery, PBS, Reshet 13 - just a few that produce laudable documentaries. It’s a world I know very well ...
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"I have read on these BBC threads that some seem to believe that the "BBC is respected worldwide". I think that is not true any more. I have lived and worked in many countries. Sure, the BBC logo flashes up at the end of Downton Abbey but nobody really knows about the BBC anymore than they know about NNN, Kan 11 or HBO. There is also the implication that the BBC World Service is listened to assiduously - maybe those that think this believe that the poor natives of whatever country are huddled around their crystal sets in their mud huts gasping in amazement at the words uttered in the dulcet tones of the BBC presenters. Again, not true. They all have cellphones like every one else. Natural History programmes? The Brits are world renowned for this and it’s mainly due to the BBC. If the BBC is not as good as it used, I can also be argued that it has to compete with channels which don’t have the same ‘overhead costs’ or which are not community orientated as the beeb. As I said - nobody knows about the BBC, they just watch the programmes. National Geographic channel is world renowned for its natural history documentaries as well. How much tv do you need? True about National Geographic which is the other big player. Discovery, PBS, Reshet 13 - just a few that produce laudable documentaries. It’s a world I know very well ...
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"By the way, I wonder when was the last time Netflix produced community programmes for the community such as Red Nose Day or Children in Need? It’s funny because I watch a lot of French tv and it’s also the channels that are subsidised by the tv licence that make this type of programmes.m, never the private companies like Netflix, Sky etc.. is that because their only purpose is to make dosh and they don’t regard their role as being a community player? So shall we start comparing things which are comparable? I’m also certain that I can’t count on Netflix to provide with me two daily news bulletins about the Bristol region. All these regional news cost a fortune and they are a public service. Netflix or Sky don’t give a toss about regional news.It wouldn’t fill up their bank accounts. The decline in interest has dwindled over the years since the inception of CIN and Red Nose Day. Yes they bring in large charitable sums but not like they used to back in the beginning. The all day events are now cut down to a 2/3 hour slot. There just isn't the demand for it anymore. People will spend thier money how they please. These events can try and get people to give donations however its easier to change the channel now and just forget about it. You’re probably right but it’s not because it’s not as good as it used to be that we should ditch or let it get worse. " It's the other options that are available. When they first started out we had 4 channels. Now there are are multitude of channels to divert the attention. | |||
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"I have read on these BBC threads that some seem to believe that the "BBC is respected worldwide". I think that is not true any more. I have lived and worked in many countries. Sure, the BBC logo flashes up at the end of Downton Abbey but nobody really knows about the BBC anymore than they know about NNN, Kan 11 or HBO. There is also the implication that the BBC World Service is listened to assiduously - maybe those that think this believe that the poor natives of whatever country are huddled around their crystal sets in their mud huts gasping in amazement at the words uttered in the dulcet tones of the BBC presenters. Again, not true. They all have cellphones like every one else. Natural History programmes? The Brits are world renowned for this and it’s mainly due to the BBC. If the BBC is not as good as it used, I can also be argued that it has to compete with channels which don’t have the same ‘overhead costs’ or which are not community orientated as the beeb. As I said - nobody knows about the BBC, they just watch the programmes. National Geographic channel is world renowned for its natural history documentaries as well. How much tv do you need? True about National Geographic which is the other big player. Discovery, PBS, Reshet 13 - just a few that produce laudable documentaries. It’s a world I know very well ...
Have you lived in Japan? Then you would know, the BBC is not a particularly popular channel.
Never lived in Japan. Not surprised the BBC is not that popular there. Culturally it’s a very different country... "Indeed it is, and so are so many other countries which is why I balk the rather arrogant assertion that "the BBC is respected worldwide". It is a moot point for me though - my property has 27 televisions and I rarely watch any of them | |||
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"I have read on these BBC threads that some seem to believe that the "BBC is respected worldwide". I think that is not true any more. I have lived and worked in many countries. Sure, the BBC logo flashes up at the end of Downton Abbey but nobody really knows about the BBC anymore than they know about NNN, Kan 11 or HBO. There is also the implication that the BBC World Service is listened to assiduously - maybe those that think this believe that the poor natives of whatever country are huddled around their crystal sets in their mud huts gasping in amazement at the words uttered in the dulcet tones of the BBC presenters. Again, not true. They all have cellphones like every one else. Natural History programmes? The Brits are world renowned for this and it’s mainly due to the BBC. If the BBC is not as good as it used, I can also be argued that it has to compete with channels which don’t have the same ‘overhead costs’ or which are not community orientated as the beeb. As I said - nobody knows about the BBC, they just watch the programmes. National Geographic channel is world renowned for its natural history documentaries as well. How much tv do you need? True about National Geographic which is the other big player. Discovery, PBS, Reshet 13 - just a few that produce laudable documentaries. It’s a world I know very well ...
Have you lived in Japan? Then you would know, the BBC is not a particularly popular channel.
Never lived in Japan. Not surprised the BBC is not that popular there. Culturally it’s a very different country...
Indeed it is, and so are so many other countries which is why I balk the rather arrogant assertion that "the BBC is respected worldwide". It is a moot point for me though - my property has 27 televisions and I rarely watch any of them "Do the Japenese pay for the license fee ? No So why bring it into the equation ? Man there are deluded folk in this world | |||
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"I have read on these BBC threads that some seem to believe that the "BBC is respected worldwide". I think that is not true any more. I have lived and worked in many countries. Sure, the BBC logo flashes up at the end of Downton Abbey but nobody really knows about the BBC anymore than they know about NNN, Kan 11 or HBO. There is also the implication that the BBC World Service is listened to assiduously - maybe those that think this believe that the poor natives of whatever country are huddled around their crystal sets in their mud huts gasping in amazement at the words uttered in the dulcet tones of the BBC presenters. Again, not true. They all have cellphones like every one else. Natural History programmes? The Brits are world renowned for this and it’s mainly due to the BBC. If the BBC is not as good as it used, I can also be argued that it has to compete with channels which don’t have the same ‘overhead costs’ or which are not community orientated as the beeb. As I said - nobody knows about the BBC, they just watch the programmes. National Geographic channel is world renowned for its natural history documentaries as well. How much tv do you need? True about National Geographic which is the other big player. Discovery, PBS, Reshet 13 - just a few that produce laudable documentaries. It’s a world I know very well ...
Have you lived in Japan? Then you would know, the BBC is not a particularly popular channel.
Never lived in Japan. Not surprised the BBC is not that popular there. Culturally it’s a very different country...
Indeed it is, and so are so many other countries which is why I balk the rather arrogant assertion that "the BBC is respected worldwide". It is a moot point for me though - my property has 27 televisions and I rarely watch any of them
Do the Japenese pay for the license fee ?
No
So why bring it into the equation ?
Man there are deluded folk in this world"No, Japanese tv is subscription. People have the choice, it is not forced upon them. Are you not in favour of freedom of choice? Why not? | |||
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"I have read on these BBC threads that some seem to believe that the "BBC is respected worldwide". I think that is not true any more. I have lived and worked in many countries. Sure, the BBC logo flashes up at the end of Downton Abbey but nobody really knows about the BBC anymore than they know about NNN, Kan 11 or HBO. There is also the implication that the BBC World Service is listened to assiduously - maybe those that think this believe that the poor natives of whatever country are huddled around their crystal sets in their mud huts gasping in amazement at the words uttered in the dulcet tones of the BBC presenters. Again, not true. They all have cellphones like every one else. Natural History programmes? The Brits are world renowned for this and it’s mainly due to the BBC. If the BBC is not as good as it used, I can also be argued that it has to compete with channels which don’t have the same ‘overhead costs’ or which are not community orientated as the beeb. As I said - nobody knows about the BBC, they just watch the programmes. National Geographic channel is world renowned for its natural history documentaries as well. How much tv do you need? True about National Geographic which is the other big player. Discovery, PBS, Reshet 13 - just a few that produce laudable documentaries. It’s a world I know very well ...
Have you lived in Japan? Then you would know, the BBC is not a particularly popular channel.
Never lived in Japan. Not surprised the BBC is not that popular there. Culturally it’s a very different country...
Indeed it is, and so are so many other countries which is why I balk the rather arrogant assertion that "the BBC is respected worldwide". It is a moot point for me though - my property has 27 televisions and I rarely watch any of them
Do the Japenese pay for the license fee ?
No
So why bring it into the equation ?
Man there are deluded folk in this world
No, Japanese tv is subscription. People have the choice, it is not forced upon them. Are you not in favour of freedom of choice? Why not?"I personally don’t like fixing something that’s not broken. People think it’s broken because political parties are trying to discredit the BBC and the tories are doing a good job at encouraging people to stop paying their tv license but there’s not much wrong with it. | |||
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"I have read on these BBC threads that some seem to believe that the "BBC is respected worldwide". I think that is not true any more. I have lived and worked in many countries. Sure, the BBC logo flashes up at the end of Downton Abbey but nobody really knows about the BBC anymore than they know about NNN, Kan 11 or HBO. There is also the implication that the BBC World Service is listened to assiduously - maybe those that think this believe that the poor natives of whatever country are huddled around their crystal sets in their mud huts gasping in amazement at the words uttered in the dulcet tones of the BBC presenters. Again, not true. They all have cellphones like every one else. Natural History programmes? The Brits are world renowned for this and it’s mainly due to the BBC. If the BBC is not as good as it used, I can also be argued that it has to compete with channels which don’t have the same ‘overhead costs’ or which are not community orientated as the beeb. As I said - nobody knows about the BBC, they just watch the programmes. National Geographic channel is world renowned for its natural history documentaries as well. How much tv do you need? True about National Geographic which is the other big player. Discovery, PBS, Reshet 13 - just a few that produce laudable documentaries. It’s a world I know very well ...
Have you lived in Japan? Then you would know, the BBC is not a particularly popular channel.
Never lived in Japan. Not surprised the BBC is not that popular there. Culturally it’s a very different country...
Indeed it is, and so are so many other countries which is why I balk the rather arrogant assertion that "the BBC is respected worldwide". It is a moot point for me though - my property has 27 televisions and I rarely watch any of them
Do the Japenese pay for the license fee ?
No
So why bring it into the equation ?
Man there are deluded folk in this world"I brought it into the equation because of the arrogant assumption that the BBC is "respected worldwide" and that this somehow is a valid reason for its existence. I disagree with that. Do you have a problem with foreigners not agreeing with you for some reason? | |||
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"I have read on these BBC threads that some seem to believe that the "BBC is respected worldwide". I think that is not true any more. I have lived and worked in many countries. Sure, the BBC logo flashes up at the end of Downton Abbey but nobody really knows about the BBC anymore than they know about NNN, Kan 11 or HBO. There is also the implication that the BBC World Service is listened to assiduously - maybe those that think this believe that the poor natives of whatever country are huddled around their crystal sets in their mud huts gasping in amazement at the words uttered in the dulcet tones of the BBC presenters. Again, not true. They all have cellphones like every one else. Natural History programmes? The Brits are world renowned for this and it’s mainly due to the BBC. If the BBC is not as good as it used, I can also be argued that it has to compete with channels which don’t have the same ‘overhead costs’ or which are not community orientated as the beeb. As I said - nobody knows about the BBC, they just watch the programmes. National Geographic channel is world renowned for its natural history documentaries as well. How much tv do you need? True about National Geographic which is the other big player. Discovery, PBS, Reshet 13 - just a few that produce laudable documentaries. It’s a world I know very well ...
Have you lived in Japan? Then you would know, the BBC is not a particularly popular channel.
Never lived in Japan. Not surprised the BBC is not that popular there. Culturally it’s a very different country...
Indeed it is, and so are so many other countries which is why I balk the rather arrogant assertion that "the BBC is respected worldwide". It is a moot point for me though - my property has 27 televisions and I rarely watch any of them
Do the Japenese pay for the license fee ?
No
So why bring it into the equation ?
Man there are deluded folk in this world
I brought it into the equation because of the arrogant assumption that the BBC is "respected worldwide" and that this somehow is a valid reason for its existence. I disagree with that. Do you have a problem with foreigners not agreeing with you for some reason?"I didn’t mean to be arrogant about the BBC by the way. I’ve never been accused of being arrogant about this country. Au contraire. I’ve lived in four different countries and although people were not raving about the BBC everyday, they had a very good opinion of it, hence my remark. | |||
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"I have read on these BBC threads that some seem to believe that the "BBC is respected worldwide". I think that is not true any more. I have lived and worked in many countries. Sure, the BBC logo flashes up at the end of Downton Abbey but nobody really knows about the BBC anymore than they know about NNN, Kan 11 or HBO. There is also the implication that the BBC World Service is listened to assiduously - maybe those that think this believe that the poor natives of whatever country are huddled around their crystal sets in their mud huts gasping in amazement at the words uttered in the dulcet tones of the BBC presenters. Again, not true. They all have cellphones like every one else. Natural History programmes? The Brits are world renowned for this and it’s mainly due to the BBC. If the BBC is not as good as it used, I can also be argued that it has to compete with channels which don’t have the same ‘overhead costs’ or which are not community orientated as the beeb. As I said - nobody knows about the BBC, they just watch the programmes. National Geographic channel is world renowned for its natural history documentaries as well. How much tv do you need? True about National Geographic which is the other big player. Discovery, PBS, Reshet 13 - just a few that produce laudable documentaries. It’s a world I know very well ...
Have you lived in Japan? Then you would know, the BBC is not a particularly popular channel.
Never lived in Japan. Not surprised the BBC is not that popular there. Culturally it’s a very different country...
Indeed it is, and so are so many other countries which is why I balk the rather arrogant assertion that "the BBC is respected worldwide". It is a moot point for me though - my property has 27 televisions and I rarely watch any of them
Do the Japenese pay for the license fee ?
No
So why bring it into the equation ?
Man there are deluded folk in this world
I brought it into the equation because of the arrogant assumption that the BBC is "respected worldwide" and that this somehow is a valid reason for its existence. I disagree with that. Do you have a problem with foreigners not agreeing with you for some reason?
I didn’t mean to be arrogant about the BBC by the way. I’ve never been accused of being arrogant about this country. Au contraire. I’ve lived in four different countries and although people were not raving about the BBC everyday, they had a very good opinion of it, hence my remark. "I was not suggesting that you are arrogant, it was a response to the other poster, and other posts in this and the other thread. I apologise if it seemed that way. | |||
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"I have read on these BBC threads that some seem to believe that the "BBC is respected worldwide". I think that is not true any more. I have lived and worked in many countries. Sure, the BBC logo flashes up at the end of Downton Abbey but nobody really knows about the BBC anymore than they know about NNN, Kan 11 or HBO. There is also the implication that the BBC World Service is listened to assiduously - maybe those that think this believe that the poor natives of whatever country are huddled around their crystal sets in their mud huts gasping in amazement at the words uttered in the dulcet tones of the BBC presenters. Again, not true. They all have cellphones like every one else. Natural History programmes? The Brits are world renowned for this and it’s mainly due to the BBC. If the BBC is not as good as it used, I can also be argued that it has to compete with channels which don’t have the same ‘overhead costs’ or which are not community orientated as the beeb. As I said - nobody knows about the BBC, they just watch the programmes. National Geographic channel is world renowned for its natural history documentaries as well. How much tv do you need? True about National Geographic which is the other big player. Discovery, PBS, Reshet 13 - just a few that produce laudable documentaries. It’s a world I know very well ...
Have you lived in Japan? Then you would know, the BBC is not a particularly popular channel.
Never lived in Japan. Not surprised the BBC is not that popular there. Culturally it’s a very different country...
Indeed it is, and so are so many other countries which is why I balk the rather arrogant assertion that "the BBC is respected worldwide". It is a moot point for me though - my property has 27 televisions and I rarely watch any of them
Do the Japenese pay for the license fee ?
No
So why bring it into the equation ?
Man there are deluded folk in this world
I brought it into the equation because of the arrogant assumption that the BBC is "respected worldwide" and that this somehow is a valid reason for its existence. I disagree with that. Do you have a problem with foreigners not agreeing with you for some reason?
I didn’t mean to be arrogant about the BBC by the way. I’ve never been accused of being arrogant about this country. Au contraire. I’ve lived in four different countries and although people were not raving about the BBC everyday, they had a very good opinion of it, hence my remark.
I was not suggesting that you are arrogant, it was a response to the other poster, and other posts in this and the other thread. I apologise if it seemed that way."No problem. | |||
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" The decline in interest has dwindled over the years since the inception of CIN and Red Nose Day. Yes they bring in large charitable sums but not like they used to back in the beginning. The all day events are now cut down to a 2/3 hour slot. There just isn't the demand for it anymore. People will spend thier money how they please. These events can try and get people to give donations however its easier to change the channel now and just forget about it. " .Broadcast dateBroadcast totalTotal raisedMain presenterCo-presentersOutside broadcast presenterBBC One rating (millions)121 November 1980£1,000,000[5]£1,000,587 1998£11,380,888[12]£17,900,000 1999£11,639,053[13]£16,700,000 2001£12,895,853[16]£25,900,000 2002£13,501,375[18]£26,200,000 2003£15,305,212[20]£31,400,000 2004£17,156,175[22]£34,200,000 2005£17,235,256[24]£33,200,000 2006£18,300,392[26]£33,600,000 2007£19,089,771[28]£37,500,000 2008£20,991,216[30]£38,500,000 2009£20,309,747[32]£40,200,000 2010£18,098,199[33]£36,600,000 2011£26,332,334[34]£46,100,000 2012£26,757,446£43,300,000 2013£31,124,896[39]£49,600,000 2014£32,620,469[40]£49,100,00 2017£50,168,562£60,750,000 2018£50,595,053£58,000,000 2019£47,886,382 Man these figures are from the bbc about children in need freely available on wikipedia for copy & paste . Why are you speaking so much Rubbish about what people pledge ? Its unbelievable Jeff | |||
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" The decline in interest has dwindled over the years since the inception of CIN and Red Nose Day. Yes they bring in large charitable sums but not like they used to back in the beginning. The all day events are now cut down to a 2/3 hour slot. There just isn't the demand for it anymore. People will spend thier money how they please. These events can try and get people to give donations however its easier to change the channel now and just forget about it. .Broadcast dateBroadcast totalTotal raisedMain presenterCo-presentersOutside broadcast presenterBBC One rating (millions)121 November 1980£1,000,000[5]£1,000,587 1998£11,380,888[12]£17,900,000 1999£11,639,053[13]£16,700,000 2001£12,895,853[16]£25,900,000 2002£13,501,375[18]£26,200,000 2003£15,305,212[20]£31,400,000 2004£17,156,175[22]£34,200,000 2005£17,235,256[24]£33,200,000 2006£18,300,392[26]£33,600,000 2007£19,089,771[28]£37,500,000 2008£20,991,216[30]£38,500,000 2009£20,309,747[32]£40,200,000 2010£18,098,199[33]£36,600,000 2011£26,332,334[34]£46,100,000 2012£26,757,446£43,300,000 2013£31,124,896[39]£49,600,000 2014£32,620,469[40]£49,100,00 2017£50,168,562£60,750,000 2018£50,595,053£58,000,000 2019£47,886,382 Man these figures are from the bbc about children in need freely available on wikipedia for copy & paste . Why are you speaking so much Rubbish about what people pledge ? Its unbelievable Jeff " Whats unbelievable is you are in defence of an institution that is obviously on its last legs. The world will go on regardless of the BBC. | |||
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" The decline in interest has dwindled over the years since the inception of CIN and Red Nose Day. Yes they bring in large charitable sums but not like they used to back in the beginning. The all day events are now cut down to a 2/3 hour slot. There just isn't the demand for it anymore. People will spend thier money how they please. These events can try and get people to give donations however its easier to change the channel now and just forget about it. .Broadcast dateBroadcast totalTotal raisedMain presenterCo-presentersOutside broadcast presenterBBC One rating (millions)121 November 1980£1,000,000[5]£1,000,587 1998£11,380,888[12]£17,900,000 1999£11,639,053[13]£16,700,000 2001£12,895,853[16]£25,900,000 2002£13,501,375[18]£26,200,000 2003£15,305,212[20]£31,400,000 2004£17,156,175[22]£34,200,000 2005£17,235,256[24]£33,200,000 2006£18,300,392[26]£33,600,000 2007£19,089,771[28]£37,500,000 2008£20,991,216[30]£38,500,000 2009£20,309,747[32]£40,200,000 2010£18,098,199[33]£36,600,000 2011£26,332,334[34]£46,100,000 2012£26,757,446£43,300,000 2013£31,124,896[39]£49,600,000 2014£32,620,469[40]£49,100,00 2017£50,168,562£60,750,000 2018£50,595,053£58,000,000 2019£47,886,382 Man these figures are from the bbc about children in need freely available on wikipedia for copy & paste . Why are you speaking so much Rubbish about what people pledge ? Its unbelievable Jeff " You still trying to convince the fab masses that the BBC licence fee should stay? You ain't doing very well
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"Imagine a world without match of the day,fawlty towers,Monty python,blackadder,the office,fkeabag,this country,dectorists,boys from the black stuff,Alan paridge,only fools and horses,dads army,dr who etc etc Prob some of the greatest programmes ever made on there. And then whinging cos you have to pay a fraction of what the likes of sky cost. I'd pay the licence fee for partridge alone. " £3 a week. It’s torture really when you think that the Daily Mail can lobotomize you for £5.80 it’s a close call... | |||
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"Imagine a world without match of the day,fawlty towers,Monty python,blackadder,the office,fkeabag,this country,dectorists,boys from the black stuff,Alan paridge,only fools and horses,dads army,dr who etc etc Prob some of the greatest programmes ever made on there. And then whinging cos you have to pay a fraction of what the likes of sky cost. I'd pay the licence fee for partridge alone. " Well most of what you stated is already available on various media sources. Agreed some of the best programs ever made however nothing new. | |||
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"Imagine a world without match of the day,fawlty towers,Monty python,blackadder,the office,fkeabag,this country,dectorists,boys from the black stuff,Alan paridge,only fools and horses,dads army,dr who etc etc Prob some of the greatest programmes ever made on there. And then whinging cos you have to pay a fraction of what the likes of sky cost. I'd pay the licence fee for partridge alone. " I enjoyed (note the past tense) a lot of the above but there will be people that didn't and they still have to pay the fee. If they are so sure that they are loved by the population let them go to the subscription format and they should have nothing to worry about | |||
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"Imagine a world without match of the day,fawlty towers,Monty python,blackadder,the office,fkeabag,this country,dectorists,boys from the black stuff,Alan paridge,only fools and horses,dads army,dr who etc etc Prob some of the greatest programmes ever made on there. And then whinging cos you have to pay a fraction of what the likes of sky cost. I'd pay the licence fee for partridge alone. £3 a week. It’s torture really when you think that the Daily Mail can lobotomize you for £5.80 it’s a close call... "Unfortunately that's the choice the people make. Lots of people so it seems. | |||
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