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By *asyuk OP Man
over a year ago
West London |
'The red, white and blue "rebranding" will cost about £900,000, No 10 said.'
Downing Street said it represented "value for money" and that all of the work was being done in the UK.'
'The Prime Minister’s spokesman said of the decision to repaint the jet from its standard grey:
“The £900,000 cost incorporates the cost of creating a design that will promote the UK around the world without compromising the plane’s vital military role. Voyager can better represent the UK around the world with national branding. All of the work has been done in the UK.”'
Considering the controversy surrounding it, you would think that someone would have said that several hundred thousand of that had been paid for a service of that were the case.
Nobody has. Except on this forum.
Intriguingly his MPs appear to believe the same thing:
'Boris Johnson was accused by his own MPs of “lurching from one PR disaster to another” after it emerged he has spent almost £1 million having his official'
This is a written question and the answer from the UK Parliament website:
'Voyager Aircraft: Repairs and Maintenance:Written question - 60776
Asked by Daniel Zeichner(Cambridge)Asked on: 17 June 2020
Ministry of DefenceVoyager Aircraft: Repairs and Maintenance 60776
To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, what the cost to the public purse is of the repainting of the RAF Voyager plane used by senior members of the Government.
Answered by: Jeremy Quin
Answered on: 22 June 2020
The total forecast cost for completing the repaint of the RAF Voyager VIP aircraft (including related costs) is approximately £900,000. The project will be carried out by Marshall Aerospace Defence Group (MADG) in Cambridge.'
So short of an invoice, it seems to be the position of the UK Government that the plane cost £900,000 to rebrand and repaint, not to service. Unless "related costs" of painting include full maintenance.
Perhaps there is nothing better to spend £900,000 on.
I will now watch people claim something else with complete certainty  |
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"'The red, white and blue "rebranding" will cost about £900,000, No 10 said.'
Downing Street said it represented "value for money" and that all of the work was being done in the UK.'
'The Prime Minister’s spokesman said of the decision to repaint the jet from its standard grey:
“The £900,000 cost incorporates the cost of creating a design that will promote the UK around the world without compromising the plane’s vital military role. Voyager can better represent the UK around the world with national branding. All of the work has been done in the UK.”'
Considering the controversy surrounding it, you would think that someone would have said that several hundred thousand of that had been paid for a service of that were the case.
Nobody has. Except on this forum.
Intriguingly his MPs appear to believe the same thing:
'Boris Johnson was accused by his own MPs of “lurching from one PR disaster to another” after it emerged he has spent almost £1 million having his official'
This is a written question and the answer from the UK Parliament website:
'Voyager Aircraft: Repairs and Maintenance:Written question - 60776
Asked by Daniel Zeichner(Cambridge)Asked on: 17 June 2020
Ministry of DefenceVoyager Aircraft: Repairs and Maintenance 60776
To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, what the cost to the public purse is of the repainting of the RAF Voyager plane used by senior members of the Government.
Answered by: Jeremy Quin
Answered on: 22 June 2020
The total forecast cost for completing the repaint of the RAF Voyager VIP aircraft (including related costs) is approximately £900,000. The project will be carried out by Marshall Aerospace Defence Group (MADG) in Cambridge.'
So short of an invoice, it seems to be the position of the UK Government that the plane cost £900,000 to rebrand and repaint, not to service. Unless "related costs" of painting include full maintenance.
Perhaps there is nothing better to spend £900,000 on.
I will now watch people claim something else with complete certainty "
It’s obvious the MAD group would say it was a related cost . ( not the Cambridge MAD though )  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The rebranding would not have been just the external paintjob.
You can bet the internal livery will have been changed as well and aircraft seats ect aint cheap  |
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"'The red, white and blue "rebranding" will cost about £900,000, No 10 said.'
Downing Street said it represented "value for money" and that all of the work was being done in the UK.'
'The Prime Minister’s spokesman said of the decision to repaint the jet from its standard grey:
“The £900,000 cost incorporates the cost of creating a design that will promote the UK around the world without compromising the plane’s vital military role. Voyager can better represent the UK around the world with national branding. All of the work has been done in the UK.”'
Considering the controversy surrounding it, you would think that someone would have said that several hundred thousand of that had been paid for a service of that were the case.
Nobody has. Except on this forum.
Intriguingly his MPs appear to believe the same thing:
'Boris Johnson was accused by his own MPs of “lurching from one PR disaster to another” after it emerged he has spent almost £1 million having his official'
This is a written question and the answer from the UK Parliament website:
'Voyager Aircraft: Repairs and Maintenance:Written question - 60776
Asked by Daniel Zeichner(Cambridge)Asked on: 17 June 2020
Ministry of DefenceVoyager Aircraft: Repairs and Maintenance 60776
To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, what the cost to the public purse is of the repainting of the RAF Voyager plane used by senior members of the Government.
Answered by: Jeremy Quin
Answered on: 22 June 2020
The total forecast cost for completing the repaint of the RAF Voyager VIP aircraft (including related costs) is approximately £900,000. The project will be carried out by Marshall Aerospace Defence Group (MADG) in Cambridge.'
So short of an invoice, it seems to be the position of the UK Government that the plane cost £900,000 to rebrand and repaint, not to service. Unless "related costs" of painting include full maintenance.
Perhaps there is nothing better to spend £900,000 on.
I will now watch people claim something else with complete certainty "
I take it your also against hs2 then? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"'The red, white and blue "rebranding" will cost about £900,000, No 10 said.'
Downing Street said it represented "value for money" and that all of the work was being done in the UK.'
'The Prime Minister’s spokesman said of the decision to repaint the jet from its standard grey:
“The £900,000 cost incorporates the cost of creating a design that will promote the UK around the world without compromising the plane’s vital military role. Voyager can better represent the UK around the world with national branding. All of the work has been done in the UK.”'
Considering the controversy surrounding it, you would think that someone would have said that several hundred thousand of that had been paid for a service of that were the case.
Nobody has. Except on this forum.
Intriguingly his MPs appear to believe the same thing:
'Boris Johnson was accused by his own MPs of “lurching from one PR disaster to another” after it emerged he has spent almost £1 million having his official'
This is a written question and the answer from the UK Parliament website:
'Voyager Aircraft: Repairs and Maintenance:Written question - 60776
Asked by Daniel Zeichner(Cambridge)Asked on: 17 June 2020
Ministry of DefenceVoyager Aircraft: Repairs and Maintenance 60776
To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, what the cost to the public purse is of the repainting of the RAF Voyager plane used by senior members of the Government.
Answered by: Jeremy Quin
Answered on: 22 June 2020
The total forecast cost for completing the repaint of the RAF Voyager VIP aircraft (including related costs) is approximately £900,000. The project will be carried out by Marshall Aerospace Defence Group (MADG) in Cambridge.'
So short of an invoice, it seems to be the position of the UK Government that the plane cost £900,000 to rebrand and repaint, not to service. Unless "related costs" of painting include full maintenance.
Perhaps there is nothing better to spend £900,000 on.
I will now watch people claim something else with complete certainty
I take it your also against hs2 then?"
HS2 is being built to benefit commuters, businesses etc , Can you give me the tangible benefits of painting the plane?  |
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"'The red, white and blue "rebranding" will cost about £900,000, No 10 said.'
Downing Street said it represented "value for money" and that all of the work was being done in the UK.'
'The Prime Minister’s spokesman said of the decision to repaint the jet from its standard grey:
“The £900,000 cost incorporates the cost of creating a design that will promote the UK around the world without compromising the plane’s vital military role. Voyager can better represent the UK around the world with national branding. All of the work has been done in the UK.”'
Considering the controversy surrounding it, you would think that someone would have said that several hundred thousand of that had been paid for a service of that were the case.
Nobody has. Except on this forum.
Intriguingly his MPs appear to believe the same thing:
'Boris Johnson was accused by his own MPs of “lurching from one PR disaster to another” after it emerged he has spent almost £1 million having his official'
This is a written question and the answer from the UK Parliament website:
'Voyager Aircraft: Repairs and Maintenance:Written question - 60776
Asked by Daniel Zeichner(Cambridge)Asked on: 17 June 2020
Ministry of DefenceVoyager Aircraft: Repairs and Maintenance 60776
To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, what the cost to the public purse is of the repainting of the RAF Voyager plane used by senior members of the Government.
Answered by: Jeremy Quin
Answered on: 22 June 2020
The total forecast cost for completing the repaint of the RAF Voyager VIP aircraft (including related costs) is approximately £900,000. The project will be carried out by Marshall Aerospace Defence Group (MADG) in Cambridge.'
So short of an invoice, it seems to be the position of the UK Government that the plane cost £900,000 to rebrand and repaint, not to service. Unless "related costs" of painting include full maintenance.
Perhaps there is nothing better to spend £900,000 on.
I will now watch people claim something else with complete certainty
I take it your also against hs2 then?
HS2 is being built to benefit commuters, businesses etc , Can you give me the tangible benefits of painting the plane? "
I mention hs2 because the money could certainly be better spent elsewhere |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"'The red, white and blue "rebranding" will cost about £900,000, No 10 said.'
Downing Street said it represented "value for money" and that all of the work was being done in the UK.'
'The Prime Minister’s spokesman said of the decision to repaint the jet from its standard grey:
“The £900,000 cost incorporates the cost of creating a design that will promote the UK around the world without compromising the plane’s vital military role. Voyager can better represent the UK around the world with national branding. All of the work has been done in the UK.”'
Considering the controversy surrounding it, you would think that someone would have said that several hundred thousand of that had been paid for a service of that were the case.
Nobody has. Except on this forum.
Intriguingly his MPs appear to believe the same thing:
'Boris Johnson was accused by his own MPs of “lurching from one PR disaster to another” after it emerged he has spent almost £1 million having his official'
This is a written question and the answer from the UK Parliament website:
'Voyager Aircraft: Repairs and Maintenance:Written question - 60776
Asked by Daniel Zeichner(Cambridge)Asked on: 17 June 2020
Ministry of DefenceVoyager Aircraft: Repairs and Maintenance 60776
To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, what the cost to the public purse is of the repainting of the RAF Voyager plane used by senior members of the Government.
Answered by: Jeremy Quin
Answered on: 22 June 2020
The total forecast cost for completing the repaint of the RAF Voyager VIP aircraft (including related costs) is approximately £900,000. The project will be carried out by Marshall Aerospace Defence Group (MADG) in Cambridge.'
So short of an invoice, it seems to be the position of the UK Government that the plane cost £900,000 to rebrand and repaint, not to service. Unless "related costs" of painting include full maintenance.
Perhaps there is nothing better to spend £900,000 on.
I will now watch people claim something else with complete certainty
I take it your also against hs2 then?
HS2 is being built to benefit commuters, businesses etc , Can you give me the tangible benefits of painting the plane? "
Bloody hell mate you dont know much about business and presentation.Would you turn up for a job in a pair of jeans and a t shirt rather than a suit? Perception plays a big part of it do you think you will be looked apon the same driving a ford escort as a Bentley? Advertising pays thats why its such big business, do you think companies like coca cola and mc donalds need to spend millions on ads every year they are household names? they do because it works. |
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"'The red, white and blue "rebranding" will cost about £900,000, No 10 said.'
Downing Street said it represented "value for money" and that all of the work was being done in the UK.'
'The Prime Minister’s spokesman said of the decision to repaint the jet from its standard grey:
“The £900,000 cost incorporates the cost of creating a design that will promote the UK around the world without compromising the plane’s vital military role. Voyager can better represent the UK around the world with national branding. All of the work has been done in the UK.”'
Considering the controversy surrounding it, you would think that someone would have said that several hundred thousand of that had been paid for a service of that were the case.
Nobody has. Except on this forum.
Intriguingly his MPs appear to believe the same thing:
'Boris Johnson was accused by his own MPs of “lurching from one PR disaster to another” after it emerged he has spent almost £1 million having his official'
This is a written question and the answer from the UK Parliament website:
'Voyager Aircraft: Repairs and Maintenance:Written question - 60776
Asked by Daniel Zeichner(Cambridge)Asked on: 17 June 2020
Ministry of DefenceVoyager Aircraft: Repairs and Maintenance 60776
To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, what the cost to the public purse is of the repainting of the RAF Voyager plane used by senior members of the Government.
Answered by: Jeremy Quin
Answered on: 22 June 2020
The total forecast cost for completing the repaint of the RAF Voyager VIP aircraft (including related costs) is approximately £900,000. The project will be carried out by Marshall Aerospace Defence Group (MADG) in Cambridge.'
So short of an invoice, it seems to be the position of the UK Government that the plane cost £900,000 to rebrand and repaint, not to service. Unless "related costs" of painting include full maintenance.
Perhaps there is nothing better to spend £900,000 on.
I will now watch people claim something else with complete certainty
I take it your also against hs2 then?
HS2 is being built to benefit commuters, businesses etc , Can you give me the tangible benefits of painting the plane? Bloody hell mate you dont know much about business and presentation.Would you turn up for a job in a pair of jeans and a t shirt rather than a suit? Perception plays a big part of it do you think you will be looked apon the same driving a ford escort as a Bentley? Advertising pays thats why its such big business, do you think companies like coca cola and mc donalds need to spend millions on ads every year they are household names? they do because it works. "
What are you talking about? Do you honestly think that the EU or any other nation give a shit about what plane Boris and his team arrive in? How can that possible influence them? And what is the point in having a new shiny plane when Boris looks like a tramp??? |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"'The red, white and blue "rebranding" will cost about £900,000, No 10 said.'
Downing Street said it represented "value for money" and that all of the work was being done in the UK.'
'The Prime Minister’s spokesman said of the decision to repaint the jet from its standard grey:
“The £900,000 cost incorporates the cost of creating a design that will promote the UK around the world without compromising the plane’s vital military role. Voyager can better represent the UK around the world with national branding. All of the work has been done in the UK.”'
Considering the controversy surrounding it, you would think that someone would have said that several hundred thousand of that had been paid for a service of that were the case.
Nobody has. Except on this forum.
Intriguingly his MPs appear to believe the same thing:
'Boris Johnson was accused by his own MPs of “lurching from one PR disaster to another” after it emerged he has spent almost £1 million having his official'
This is a written question and the answer from the UK Parliament website:
'Voyager Aircraft: Repairs and Maintenance:Written question - 60776
Asked by Daniel Zeichner(Cambridge)Asked on: 17 June 2020
Ministry of DefenceVoyager Aircraft: Repairs and Maintenance 60776
To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, what the cost to the public purse is of the repainting of the RAF Voyager plane used by senior members of the Government.
Answered by: Jeremy Quin
Answered on: 22 June 2020
The total forecast cost for completing the repaint of the RAF Voyager VIP aircraft (including related costs) is approximately £900,000. The project will be carried out by Marshall Aerospace Defence Group (MADG) in Cambridge.'
So short of an invoice, it seems to be the position of the UK Government that the plane cost £900,000 to rebrand and repaint, not to service. Unless "related costs" of painting include full maintenance.
Perhaps there is nothing better to spend £900,000 on.
I will now watch people claim something else with complete certainty
I take it your also against hs2 then?
HS2 is being built to benefit commuters, businesses etc , Can you give me the tangible benefits of painting the plane? Bloody hell mate you dont know much about business and presentation.Would you turn up for a job in a pair of jeans and a t shirt rather than a suit? Perception plays a big part of it do you think you will be looked apon the same driving a ford escort as a Bentley? Advertising pays thats why its such big business, do you think companies like coca cola and mc donalds need to spend millions on ads every year they are household names? they do because it works.
What are you talking about? Do you honestly think that the EU or any other nation give a shit about what plane Boris and his team arrive in? How can that possible influence them? And what is the point in having a new shiny plane when Boris looks like a tramp???"
who,s talking about the eu they are done,yeah i do think countries give a shit impression is everything and nothing impresses like a big union flag. |
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"'The red, white and blue "rebranding" will cost about £900,000, No 10 said.'
Downing Street said it represented "value for money" and that all of the work was being done in the UK.'
'The Prime Minister’s spokesman said of the decision to repaint the jet from its standard grey:
“The £900,000 cost incorporates the cost of creating a design that will promote the UK around the world without compromising the plane’s vital military role. Voyager can better represent the UK around the world with national branding. All of the work has been done in the UK.”'
Considering the controversy surrounding it, you would think that someone would have said that several hundred thousand of that had been paid for a service of that were the case.
Nobody has. Except on this forum.
Intriguingly his MPs appear to believe the same thing:
'Boris Johnson was accused by his own MPs of “lurching from one PR disaster to another” after it emerged he has spent almost £1 million having his official'
This is a written question and the answer from the UK Parliament website:
'Voyager Aircraft: Repairs and Maintenance:Written question - 60776
Asked by Daniel Zeichner(Cambridge)Asked on: 17 June 2020
Ministry of DefenceVoyager Aircraft: Repairs and Maintenance 60776
To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, what the cost to the public purse is of the repainting of the RAF Voyager plane used by senior members of the Government.
Answered by: Jeremy Quin
Answered on: 22 June 2020
The total forecast cost for completing the repaint of the RAF Voyager VIP aircraft (including related costs) is approximately £900,000. The project will be carried out by Marshall Aerospace Defence Group (MADG) in Cambridge.'
So short of an invoice, it seems to be the position of the UK Government that the plane cost £900,000 to rebrand and repaint, not to service. Unless "related costs" of painting include full maintenance.
Perhaps there is nothing better to spend £900,000 on.
I will now watch people claim something else with complete certainty
I take it your also against hs2 then?
HS2 is being built to benefit commuters, businesses etc , Can you give me the tangible benefits of painting the plane? Bloody hell mate you dont know much about business and presentation.Would you turn up for a job in a pair of jeans and a t shirt rather than a suit? Perception plays a big part of it do you think you will be looked apon the same driving a ford escort as a Bentley? Advertising pays thats why its such big business, do you think companies like coca cola and mc donalds need to spend millions on ads every year they are household names? they do because it works.
What are you talking about? Do you honestly think that the EU or any other nation give a shit about what plane Boris and his team arrive in? How can that possible influence them? And what is the point in having a new shiny plane when Boris looks like a tramp???who,s talking about the eu they are done,yeah i do think countries give a shit impression is everything and nothing impresses like a big union flag. "
I have said It before but it’s like putting a turd in a shiny new box, |
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"'The red, white and blue "rebranding" will cost about £900,000, No 10 said.'
Downing Street said it represented "value for money" and that all of the work was being done in the UK.'
'The Prime Minister’s spokesman said of the decision to repaint the jet from its standard grey:
“The £900,000 cost incorporates the cost of creating a design that will promote the UK around the world without compromising the plane’s vital military role. Voyager can better represent the UK around the world with national branding. All of the work has been done in the UK.”'
Considering the controversy surrounding it, you would think that someone would have said that several hundred thousand of that had been paid for a service of that were the case.
Nobody has. Except on this forum.
Intriguingly his MPs appear to believe the same thing:
'Boris Johnson was accused by his own MPs of “lurching from one PR disaster to another” after it emerged he has spent almost £1 million having his official'
This is a written question and the answer from the UK Parliament website:
'Voyager Aircraft: Repairs and Maintenance:Written question - 60776
Asked by Daniel Zeichner(Cambridge)Asked on: 17 June 2020
Ministry of DefenceVoyager Aircraft: Repairs and Maintenance 60776
To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, what the cost to the public purse is of the repainting of the RAF Voyager plane used by senior members of the Government.
Answered by: Jeremy Quin
Answered on: 22 June 2020
The total forecast cost for completing the repaint of the RAF Voyager VIP aircraft (including related costs) is approximately £900,000. The project will be carried out by Marshall Aerospace Defence Group (MADG) in Cambridge.'
So short of an invoice, it seems to be the position of the UK Government that the plane cost £900,000 to rebrand and repaint, not to service. Unless "related costs" of painting include full maintenance.
Perhaps there is nothing better to spend £900,000 on.
I will now watch people claim something else with complete certainty
I take it your also against hs2 then?
HS2 is being built to benefit commuters, businesses etc , Can you give me the tangible benefits of painting the plane? Bloody hell mate you dont know much about business and presentation.Would you turn up for a job in a pair of jeans and a t shirt rather than a suit? Perception plays a big part of it do you think you will be looked apon the same driving a ford escort as a Bentley? Advertising pays thats why its such big business, do you think companies like coca cola and mc donalds need to spend millions on ads every year they are household names? they do because it works.
What are you talking about? Do you honestly think that the EU or any other nation give a shit about what plane Boris and his team arrive in? How can that possible influence them? And what is the point in having a new shiny plane when Boris looks like a tramp???who,s talking about the eu they are done,yeah i do think countries give a shit impression is everything and nothing impresses like a big union flag. "
Only when there was a powerful gunboat involved. |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"'The red, white and blue "rebranding" will cost about £900,000, No 10 said.'
Downing Street said it represented "value for money" and that all of the work was being done in the UK.'
'The Prime Minister’s spokesman said of the decision to repaint the jet from its standard grey:
“The £900,000 cost incorporates the cost of creating a design that will promote the UK around the world without compromising the plane’s vital military role. Voyager can better represent the UK around the world with national branding. All of the work has been done in the UK.”'
Considering the controversy surrounding it, you would think that someone would have said that several hundred thousand of that had been paid for a service of that were the case.
Nobody has. Except on this forum.
Intriguingly his MPs appear to believe the same thing:
'Boris Johnson was accused by his own MPs of “lurching from one PR disaster to another” after it emerged he has spent almost £1 million having his official'
This is a written question and the answer from the UK Parliament website:
'Voyager Aircraft: Repairs and Maintenance:Written question - 60776
Asked by Daniel Zeichner(Cambridge)Asked on: 17 June 2020
Ministry of DefenceVoyager Aircraft: Repairs and Maintenance 60776
To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, what the cost to the public purse is of the repainting of the RAF Voyager plane used by senior members of the Government.
Answered by: Jeremy Quin
Answered on: 22 June 2020
The total forecast cost for completing the repaint of the RAF Voyager VIP aircraft (including related costs) is approximately £900,000. The project will be carried out by Marshall Aerospace Defence Group (MADG) in Cambridge.'
So short of an invoice, it seems to be the position of the UK Government that the plane cost £900,000 to rebrand and repaint, not to service. Unless "related costs" of painting include full maintenance.
Perhaps there is nothing better to spend £900,000 on.
I will now watch people claim something else with complete certainty
I take it your also against hs2 then?
HS2 is being built to benefit commuters, businesses etc , Can you give me the tangible benefits of painting the plane? Bloody hell mate you dont know much about business and presentation.Would you turn up for a job in a pair of jeans and a t shirt rather than a suit? Perception plays a big part of it do you think you will be looked apon the same driving a ford escort as a Bentley? Advertising pays thats why its such big business, do you think companies like coca cola and mc donalds need to spend millions on ads every year they are household names? they do because it works.
What are you talking about? Do you honestly think that the EU or any other nation give a shit about what plane Boris and his team arrive in? How can that possible influence them? And what is the point in having a new shiny plane when Boris looks like a tramp???who,s talking about the eu they are done,yeah i do think countries give a shit impression is everything and nothing impresses like a big union flag.
I have said It before but it’s like putting a turd in a shiny new box, "
Well you ask what the point was i gave you a reason you might not agree with it but thats your prerogative but i suspect the people who do business on this site will understand. |
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"'The red, white and blue "rebranding" will cost about £900,000, No 10 said.'
Downing Street said it represented "value for money" and that all of the work was being done in the UK.'
'The Prime Minister’s spokesman said of the decision to repaint the jet from its standard grey:
“The £900,000 cost incorporates the cost of creating a design that will promote the UK around the world without compromising the plane’s vital military role. Voyager can better represent the UK around the world with national branding. All of the work has been done in the UK.”'
Considering the controversy surrounding it, you would think that someone would have said that several hundred thousand of that had been paid for a service of that were the case.
Nobody has. Except on this forum.
Intriguingly his MPs appear to believe the same thing:
'Boris Johnson was accused by his own MPs of “lurching from one PR disaster to another” after it emerged he has spent almost £1 million having his official'
This is a written question and the answer from the UK Parliament website:
'Voyager Aircraft: Repairs and Maintenance:Written question - 60776
Asked by Daniel Zeichner(Cambridge)Asked on: 17 June 2020
Ministry of DefenceVoyager Aircraft: Repairs and Maintenance 60776
To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, what the cost to the public purse is of the repainting of the RAF Voyager plane used by senior members of the Government.
Answered by: Jeremy Quin
Answered on: 22 June 2020
The total forecast cost for completing the repaint of the RAF Voyager VIP aircraft (including related costs) is approximately £900,000. The project will be carried out by Marshall Aerospace Defence Group (MADG) in Cambridge.'
So short of an invoice, it seems to be the position of the UK Government that the plane cost £900,000 to rebrand and repaint, not to service. Unless "related costs" of painting include full maintenance.
Perhaps there is nothing better to spend £900,000 on.
I will now watch people claim something else with complete certainty
I take it your also against hs2 then?
HS2 is being built to benefit commuters, businesses etc , Can you give me the tangible benefits of painting the plane? Bloody hell mate you dont know much about business and presentation.Would you turn up for a job in a pair of jeans and a t shirt rather than a suit? Perception plays a big part of it do you think you will be looked apon the same driving a ford escort as a Bentley? Advertising pays thats why its such big business, do you think companies like coca cola and mc donalds need to spend millions on ads every year they are household names? they do because it works.
What are you talking about? Do you honestly think that the EU or any other nation give a shit about what plane Boris and his team arrive in? How can that possible influence them? And what is the point in having a new shiny plane when Boris looks like a tramp???who,s talking about the eu they are done,yeah i do think countries give a shit impression is everything and nothing impresses like a big union flag.
I have said It before but it’s like putting a turd in a shiny new box, Well you ask what the point was i gave you a reason you might not agree with it but thats your prerogative but i suspect the people who do business on this site will understand."
Do business? We are talking about international trade deals between countries using experienced negotiators who won’t be influenced by the transport they use to get there .I am guessing your no where near that level? |
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"'The red, white and blue "rebranding" will cost about £900,000, No 10 said.'
Downing Street said it represented "value for money" and that all of the work was being done in the UK.'
'The Prime Minister’s spokesman said of the decision to repaint the jet from its standard grey:
“The £900,000 cost incorporates the cost of creating a design that will promote the UK around the world without compromising the plane’s vital military role. Voyager can better represent the UK around the world with national branding. All of the work has been done in the UK.”'
Considering the controversy surrounding it, you would think that someone would have said that several hundred thousand of that had been paid for a service of that were the case.
Nobody has. Except on this forum.
Intriguingly his MPs appear to believe the same thing:
'Boris Johnson was accused by his own MPs of “lurching from one PR disaster to another” after it emerged he has spent almost £1 million having his official'
This is a written question and the answer from the UK Parliament website:
'Voyager Aircraft: Repairs and Maintenance:Written question - 60776
Asked by Daniel Zeichner(Cambridge)Asked on: 17 June 2020
Ministry of DefenceVoyager Aircraft: Repairs and Maintenance 60776
To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, what the cost to the public purse is of the repainting of the RAF Voyager plane used by senior members of the Government.
Answered by: Jeremy Quin
Answered on: 22 June 2020
The total forecast cost for completing the repaint of the RAF Voyager VIP aircraft (including related costs) is approximately £900,000. The project will be carried out by Marshall Aerospace Defence Group (MADG) in Cambridge.'
So short of an invoice, it seems to be the position of the UK Government that the plane cost £900,000 to rebrand and repaint, not to service. Unless "related costs" of painting include full maintenance.
Perhaps there is nothing better to spend £900,000 on.
I will now watch people claim something else with complete certainty
I take it your also against hs2 then?
HS2 is being built to benefit commuters, businesses etc , Can you give me the tangible benefits of painting the plane? Bloody hell mate you dont know much about business and presentation.Would you turn up for a job in a pair of jeans and a t shirt rather than a suit? Perception plays a big part of it do you think you will be looked apon the same driving a ford escort as a Bentley? Advertising pays thats why its such big business, do you think companies like coca cola and mc donalds need to spend millions on ads every year they are household names? they do because it works.
What are you talking about? Do you honestly think that the EU or any other nation give a shit about what plane Boris and his team arrive in? How can that possible influence them? And what is the point in having a new shiny plane when Boris looks like a tramp???who,s talking about the eu they are done,yeah i do think countries give a shit impression is everything and nothing impresses like a big union flag.
I have said It before but it’s like putting a turd in a shiny new box, Well you ask what the point was i gave you a reason you might not agree with it but thats your prerogative but i suspect the people who do business on this site will understand."
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"'The red, white and blue "rebranding" will cost about £900,000, No 10 said.'
Downing Street said it represented "value for money" and that all of the work was being done in the UK.'
'The Prime Minister’s spokesman said of the decision to repaint the jet from its standard grey:
“The £900,000 cost incorporates the cost of creating a design that will promote the UK around the world without compromising the plane’s vital military role. Voyager can better represent the UK around the world with national branding. All of the work has been done in the UK.”'
Considering the controversy surrounding it, you would think that someone would have said that several hundred thousand of that had been paid for a service of that were the case.
Nobody has. Except on this forum.
Intriguingly his MPs appear to believe the same thing:
'Boris Johnson was accused by his own MPs of “lurching from one PR disaster to another” after it emerged he has spent almost £1 million having his official'
This is a written question and the answer from the UK Parliament website:
'Voyager Aircraft: Repairs and Maintenance:Written question - 60776
Asked by Daniel Zeichner(Cambridge)Asked on: 17 June 2020
Ministry of DefenceVoyager Aircraft: Repairs and Maintenance 60776
To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, what the cost to the public purse is of the repainting of the RAF Voyager plane used by senior members of the Government.
Answered by: Jeremy Quin
Answered on: 22 June 2020
The total forecast cost for completing the repaint of the RAF Voyager VIP aircraft (including related costs) is approximately £900,000. The project will be carried out by Marshall Aerospace Defence Group (MADG) in Cambridge.'
So short of an invoice, it seems to be the position of the UK Government that the plane cost £900,000 to rebrand and repaint, not to service. Unless "related costs" of painting include full maintenance.
Perhaps there is nothing better to spend £900,000 on.
I will now watch people claim something else with complete certainty
I take it your also against hs2 then?
HS2 is being built to benefit commuters, businesses etc , Can you give me the tangible benefits of painting the plane? Bloody hell mate you dont know much about business and presentation.Would you turn up for a job in a pair of jeans and a t shirt rather than a suit? Perception plays a big part of it do you think you will be looked apon the same driving a ford escort as a Bentley? Advertising pays thats why its such big business, do you think companies like coca cola and mc donalds need to spend millions on ads every year they are household names? they do because it works.
What are you talking about? Do you honestly think that the EU or any other nation give a shit about what plane Boris and his team arrive in? How can that possible influence them? And what is the point in having a new shiny plane when Boris looks like a tramp???who,s talking about the eu they are done,yeah i do think countries give a shit impression is everything and nothing impresses like a big union flag.
I have said It before but it’s like putting a turd in a shiny new box, Well you ask what the point was i gave you a reason you might not agree with it but thats your prerogative but i suspect the people who do business on this site will understand.
All those who don't like it should Google and see how many heads of state have their own painted aircraft."
How many? Why have the UK never had one before?? And why now? |
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"'The red, white and blue "rebranding" will cost about £900,000, No 10 said.'
Downing Street said it represented "value for money" and that all of the work was being done in the UK.'
'The Prime Minister’s spokesman said of the decision to repaint the jet from its standard grey:
“The £900,000 cost incorporates the cost of creating a design that will promote the UK around the world without compromising the plane’s vital military role. Voyager can better represent the UK around the world with national branding. All of the work has been done in the UK.”'
Considering the controversy surrounding it, you would think that someone would have said that several hundred thousand of that had been paid for a service of that were the case.
Nobody has. Except on this forum.
Intriguingly his MPs appear to believe the same thing:
'Boris Johnson was accused by his own MPs of “lurching from one PR disaster to another” after it emerged he has spent almost £1 million having his official'
This is a written question and the answer from the UK Parliament website:
'Voyager Aircraft: Repairs and Maintenance:Written question - 60776
Asked by Daniel Zeichner(Cambridge)Asked on: 17 June 2020
Ministry of DefenceVoyager Aircraft: Repairs and Maintenance 60776
To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, what the cost to the public purse is of the repainting of the RAF Voyager plane used by senior members of the Government.
Answered by: Jeremy Quin
Answered on: 22 June 2020
The total forecast cost for completing the repaint of the RAF Voyager VIP aircraft (including related costs) is approximately £900,000. The project will be carried out by Marshall Aerospace Defence Group (MADG) in Cambridge.'
So short of an invoice, it seems to be the position of the UK Government that the plane cost £900,000 to rebrand and repaint, not to service. Unless "related costs" of painting include full maintenance.
Perhaps there is nothing better to spend £900,000 on.
I will now watch people claim something else with complete certainty
I take it your also against hs2 then?
HS2 is being built to benefit commuters, businesses etc , Can you give me the tangible benefits of painting the plane? Bloody hell mate you dont know much about business and presentation.Would you turn up for a job in a pair of jeans and a t shirt rather than a suit? Perception plays a big part of it do you think you will be looked apon the same driving a ford escort as a Bentley? Advertising pays thats why its such big business, do you think companies like coca cola and mc donalds need to spend millions on ads every year they are household names? they do because it works.
What are you talking about? Do you honestly think that the EU or any other nation give a shit about what plane Boris and his team arrive in? How can that possible influence them? And what is the point in having a new shiny plane when Boris looks like a tramp???who,s talking about the eu they are done,yeah i do think countries give a shit impression is everything and nothing impresses like a big union flag.
I have said It before but it’s like putting a turd in a shiny new box, Well you ask what the point was i gave you a reason you might not agree with it but thats your prerogative but i suspect the people who do business on this site will understand.
All those who don't like it should Google and see how many heads of state have their own painted aircraft.
How many? Why have the UK never had one before?? And why now? "
The UK use to have the Royal yacht Britannia which was decommissioned in 1997.
Between the years of 1991 and 1995 £3bn in trade was generate for the UK.
Not bad at all and bear in mind the yacht was used for 44 years in total so the amount of trade generated would have been a tidy sum. |
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"'The red, white and blue "rebranding" will cost about £900,000, No 10 said.'
Downing Street said it represented "value for money" and that all of the work was being done in the UK.'
'The Prime Minister’s spokesman said of the decision to repaint the jet from its standard grey:
“The £900,000 cost incorporates the cost of creating a design that will promote the UK around the world without compromising the plane’s vital military role. Voyager can better represent the UK around the world with national branding. All of the work has been done in the UK.”'
Considering the controversy surrounding it, you would think that someone would have said that several hundred thousand of that had been paid for a service of that were the case.
Nobody has. Except on this forum.
Intriguingly his MPs appear to believe the same thing:
'Boris Johnson was accused by his own MPs of “lurching from one PR disaster to another” after it emerged he has spent almost £1 million having his official'
This is a written question and the answer from the UK Parliament website:
'Voyager Aircraft: Repairs and Maintenance:Written question - 60776
Asked by Daniel Zeichner(Cambridge)Asked on: 17 June 2020
Ministry of DefenceVoyager Aircraft: Repairs and Maintenance 60776
To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, what the cost to the public purse is of the repainting of the RAF Voyager plane used by senior members of the Government.
Answered by: Jeremy Quin
Answered on: 22 June 2020
The total forecast cost for completing the repaint of the RAF Voyager VIP aircraft (including related costs) is approximately £900,000. The project will be carried out by Marshall Aerospace Defence Group (MADG) in Cambridge.'
So short of an invoice, it seems to be the position of the UK Government that the plane cost £900,000 to rebrand and repaint, not to service. Unless "related costs" of painting include full maintenance.
Perhaps there is nothing better to spend £900,000 on.
I will now watch people claim something else with complete certainty
I take it your also against hs2 then?
HS2 is being built to benefit commuters, businesses etc , Can you give me the tangible benefits of painting the plane? Bloody hell mate you dont know much about business and presentation.Would you turn up for a job in a pair of jeans and a t shirt rather than a suit? Perception plays a big part of it do you think you will be looked apon the same driving a ford escort as a Bentley? Advertising pays thats why its such big business, do you think companies like coca cola and mc donalds need to spend millions on ads every year they are household names? they do because it works.
What are you talking about? Do you honestly think that the EU or any other nation give a shit about what plane Boris and his team arrive in? How can that possible influence them? And what is the point in having a new shiny plane when Boris looks like a tramp???who,s talking about the eu they are done,yeah i do think countries give a shit impression is everything and nothing impresses like a big union flag.
I have said It before but it’s like putting a turd in a shiny new box, Well you ask what the point was i gave you a reason you might not agree with it but thats your prerogative but i suspect the people who do business on this site will understand."
Anyone who 'does business' and is fooled into thinking that the idiot they have sussed out previously is suddenly a genius as they have a nice shiny new attire won't be doing business for long.. |
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"'The red, white and blue "rebranding" will cost about £900,000, No 10 said.'
Downing Street said it represented "value for money" and that all of the work was being done in the UK.'
'The Prime Minister’s spokesman said of the decision to repaint the jet from its standard grey:
“The £900,000 cost incorporates the cost of creating a design that will promote the UK around the world without compromising the plane’s vital military role. Voyager can better represent the UK around the world with national branding. All of the work has been done in the UK.”'
Considering the controversy surrounding it, you would think that someone would have said that several hundred thousand of that had been paid for a service of that were the case.
Nobody has. Except on this forum.
Intriguingly his MPs appear to believe the same thing:
'Boris Johnson was accused by his own MPs of “lurching from one PR disaster to another” after it emerged he has spent almost £1 million having his official'
This is a written question and the answer from the UK Parliament website:
'Voyager Aircraft: Repairs and Maintenance:Written question - 60776
Asked by Daniel Zeichner(Cambridge)Asked on: 17 June 2020
Ministry of DefenceVoyager Aircraft: Repairs and Maintenance 60776
To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, what the cost to the public purse is of the repainting of the RAF Voyager plane used by senior members of the Government.
Answered by: Jeremy Quin
Answered on: 22 June 2020
The total forecast cost for completing the repaint of the RAF Voyager VIP aircraft (including related costs) is approximately £900,000. The project will be carried out by Marshall Aerospace Defence Group (MADG) in Cambridge.'
So short of an invoice, it seems to be the position of the UK Government that the plane cost £900,000 to rebrand and repaint, not to service. Unless "related costs" of painting include full maintenance.
Perhaps there is nothing better to spend £900,000 on.
I will now watch people claim something else with complete certainty
I take it your also against hs2 then?
HS2 is being built to benefit commuters, businesses etc , Can you give me the tangible benefits of painting the plane? Bloody hell mate you dont know much about business and presentation.Would you turn up for a job in a pair of jeans and a t shirt rather than a suit? Perception plays a big part of it do you think you will be looked apon the same driving a ford escort as a Bentley? Advertising pays thats why its such big business, do you think companies like coca cola and mc donalds need to spend millions on ads every year they are household names? they do because it works.
What are you talking about? Do you honestly think that the EU or any other nation give a shit about what plane Boris and his team arrive in? How can that possible influence them? And what is the point in having a new shiny plane when Boris looks like a tramp???who,s talking about the eu they are done,yeah i do think countries give a shit impression is everything and nothing impresses like a big union flag.
I have said It before but it’s like putting a turd in a shiny new box, Well you ask what the point was i gave you a reason you might not agree with it but thats your prerogative but i suspect the people who do business on this site will understand.
All those who don't like it should Google and see how many heads of state have their own painted aircraft.
How many? Why have the UK never had one before?? And why now?
The UK use to have the Royal yacht Britannia which was decommissioned in 1997.
Between the years of 1991 and 1995 £3bn in trade was generate for the UK.
Not bad at all and bear in mind the yacht was used for 44 years in total so the amount of trade generated would have been a tidy sum."
Presumably if we would have turned up in any other mode of transport,no one would have done business with us. |
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"'The red, white and blue "rebranding" will cost about £900,000, No 10 said.'
Downing Street said it represented "value for money" and that all of the work was being done in the UK.'
'The Prime Minister’s spokesman said of the decision to repaint the jet from its standard grey:
“The £900,000 cost incorporates the cost of creating a design that will promote the UK around the world without compromising the plane’s vital military role. Voyager can better represent the UK around the world with national branding. All of the work has been done in the UK.”'
Considering the controversy surrounding it, you would think that someone would have said that several hundred thousand of that had been paid for a service of that were the case.
Nobody has. Except on this forum.
Intriguingly his MPs appear to believe the same thing:
'Boris Johnson was accused by his own MPs of “lurching from one PR disaster to another” after it emerged he has spent almost £1 million having his official'
This is a written question and the answer from the UK Parliament website:
'Voyager Aircraft: Repairs and Maintenance:Written question - 60776
Asked by Daniel Zeichner(Cambridge)Asked on: 17 June 2020
Ministry of DefenceVoyager Aircraft: Repairs and Maintenance 60776
To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, what the cost to the public purse is of the repainting of the RAF Voyager plane used by senior members of the Government.
Answered by: Jeremy Quin
Answered on: 22 June 2020
The total forecast cost for completing the repaint of the RAF Voyager VIP aircraft (including related costs) is approximately £900,000. The project will be carried out by Marshall Aerospace Defence Group (MADG) in Cambridge.'
So short of an invoice, it seems to be the position of the UK Government that the plane cost £900,000 to rebrand and repaint, not to service. Unless "related costs" of painting include full maintenance.
Perhaps there is nothing better to spend £900,000 on.
I will now watch people claim something else with complete certainty
I take it your also against hs2 then?
HS2 is being built to benefit commuters, businesses etc , Can you give me the tangible benefits of painting the plane? Bloody hell mate you dont know much about business and presentation.Would you turn up for a job in a pair of jeans and a t shirt rather than a suit? Perception plays a big part of it do you think you will be looked apon the same driving a ford escort as a Bentley? Advertising pays thats why its such big business, do you think companies like coca cola and mc donalds need to spend millions on ads every year they are household names? they do because it works.
What are you talking about? Do you honestly think that the EU or any other nation give a shit about what plane Boris and his team arrive in? How can that possible influence them? And what is the point in having a new shiny plane when Boris looks like a tramp???who,s talking about the eu they are done,yeah i do think countries give a shit impression is everything and nothing impresses like a big union flag.
I have said It before but it’s like putting a turd in a shiny new box, Well you ask what the point was i gave you a reason you might not agree with it but thats your prerogative but i suspect the people who do business on this site will understand.
Do business? We are talking about international trade deals between countries using experienced negotiators who won’t be influenced by the transport they use to get there .I am guessing your no where near that level? "
Its mind boggling isnt it?
Oh they have turned up in a normal plane..them that deal is kaput. |
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"'The red, white and blue "rebranding" will cost about £900,000, No 10 said.'
Downing Street said it represented "value for money" and that all of the work was being done in the UK.'
'The Prime Minister’s spokesman said of the decision to repaint the jet from its standard grey:
“The £900,000 cost incorporates the cost of creating a design that will promote the UK around the world without compromising the plane’s vital military role. Voyager can better represent the UK around the world with national branding. All of the work has been done in the UK.”'
Considering the controversy surrounding it, you would think that someone would have said that several hundred thousand of that had been paid for a service of that were the case.
Nobody has. Except on this forum.
Intriguingly his MPs appear to believe the same thing:
'Boris Johnson was accused by his own MPs of “lurching from one PR disaster to another” after it emerged he has spent almost £1 million having his official'
This is a written question and the answer from the UK Parliament website:
'Voyager Aircraft: Repairs and Maintenance:Written question - 60776
Asked by Daniel Zeichner(Cambridge)Asked on: 17 June 2020
Ministry of DefenceVoyager Aircraft: Repairs and Maintenance 60776
To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, what the cost to the public purse is of the repainting of the RAF Voyager plane used by senior members of the Government.
Answered by: Jeremy Quin
Answered on: 22 June 2020
The total forecast cost for completing the repaint of the RAF Voyager VIP aircraft (including related costs) is approximately £900,000. The project will be carried out by Marshall Aerospace Defence Group (MADG) in Cambridge.'
So short of an invoice, it seems to be the position of the UK Government that the plane cost £900,000 to rebrand and repaint, not to service. Unless "related costs" of painting include full maintenance.
Perhaps there is nothing better to spend £900,000 on.
I will now watch people claim something else with complete certainty
I take it your also against hs2 then?
HS2 is being built to benefit commuters, businesses etc , Can you give me the tangible benefits of painting the plane? Bloody hell mate you dont know much about business and presentation.Would you turn up for a job in a pair of jeans and a t shirt rather than a suit? Perception plays a big part of it do you think you will be looked apon the same driving a ford escort as a Bentley? Advertising pays thats why its such big business, do you think companies like coca cola and mc donalds need to spend millions on ads every year they are household names? they do because it works.
What are you talking about? Do you honestly think that the EU or any other nation give a shit about what plane Boris and his team arrive in? How can that possible influence them? And what is the point in having a new shiny plane when Boris looks like a tramp???who,s talking about the eu they are done,yeah i do think countries give a shit impression is everything and nothing impresses like a big union flag.
I have said It before but it’s like putting a turd in a shiny new box, Well you ask what the point was i gave you a reason you might not agree with it but thats your prerogative but i suspect the people who do business on this site will understand.
All those who don't like it should Google and see how many heads of state have their own painted aircraft.
How many? Why have the UK never had one before?? And why now?
The UK use to have the Royal yacht Britannia which was decommissioned in 1997.
Between the years of 1991 and 1995 £3bn in trade was generate for the UK.
Not bad at all and bear in mind the yacht was used for 44 years in total so the amount of trade generated would have been a tidy sum."
All that trade just because we had a yacht? Amazing |
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"'The red, white and blue "rebranding" will cost about £900,000, No 10 said.'
Downing Street said it represented "value for money" and that all of the work was being done in the UK.'
'The Prime Minister’s spokesman said of the decision to repaint the jet from its standard grey:
“The £900,000 cost incorporates the cost of creating a design that will promote the UK around the world without compromising the plane’s vital military role. Voyager can better represent the UK around the world with national branding. All of the work has been done in the UK.”'
Considering the controversy surrounding it, you would think that someone would have said that several hundred thousand of that had been paid for a service of that were the case.
Nobody has. Except on this forum.
Intriguingly his MPs appear to believe the same thing:
'Boris Johnson was accused by his own MPs of “lurching from one PR disaster to another” after it emerged he has spent almost £1 million having his official'
This is a written question and the answer from the UK Parliament website:
'Voyager Aircraft: Repairs and Maintenance:Written question - 60776
Asked by Daniel Zeichner(Cambridge)Asked on: 17 June 2020
Ministry of DefenceVoyager Aircraft: Repairs and Maintenance 60776
To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, what the cost to the public purse is of the repainting of the RAF Voyager plane used by senior members of the Government.
Answered by: Jeremy Quin
Answered on: 22 June 2020
The total forecast cost for completing the repaint of the RAF Voyager VIP aircraft (including related costs) is approximately £900,000. The project will be carried out by Marshall Aerospace Defence Group (MADG) in Cambridge.'
So short of an invoice, it seems to be the position of the UK Government that the plane cost £900,000 to rebrand and repaint, not to service. Unless "related costs" of painting include full maintenance.
Perhaps there is nothing better to spend £900,000 on.
I will now watch people claim something else with complete certainty
I take it your also against hs2 then?
HS2 is being built to benefit commuters, businesses etc , Can you give me the tangible benefits of painting the plane? Bloody hell mate you dont know much about business and presentation.Would you turn up for a job in a pair of jeans and a t shirt rather than a suit? Perception plays a big part of it do you think you will be looked apon the same driving a ford escort as a Bentley? Advertising pays thats why its such big business, do you think companies like coca cola and mc donalds need to spend millions on ads every year they are household names? they do because it works.
What are you talking about? Do you honestly think that the EU or any other nation give a shit about what plane Boris and his team arrive in? How can that possible influence them? And what is the point in having a new shiny plane when Boris looks like a tramp???who,s talking about the eu they are done,yeah i do think countries give a shit impression is everything and nothing impresses like a big union flag.
I have said It before but it’s like putting a turd in a shiny new box, Well you ask what the point was i gave you a reason you might not agree with it but thats your prerogative but i suspect the people who do business on this site will understand.
All those who don't like it should Google and see how many heads of state have their own painted aircraft.
How many? Why have the UK never had one before?? And why now?
The UK use to have the Royal yacht Britannia which was decommissioned in 1997.
Between the years of 1991 and 1995 £3bn in trade was generate for the UK.
Not bad at all and bear in mind the yacht was used for 44 years in total so the amount of trade generated would have been a tidy sum."
It's a bit of a stretch to say that because trade missions held drinks and nibbles on brittania that it's presence had anything to do with such deals, most deals are negotiated months even years before sign off etc..
The days of the empire are thankfully long gone, we are post brexit a small fish despite being in the top ten for gdp in a very big pond.. |
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"'The red, white and blue "rebranding" will cost about £900,000, No 10 said.'
Downing Street said it represented "value for money" and that all of the work was being done in the UK.'
'The Prime Minister’s spokesman said of the decision to repaint the jet from its standard grey:
“The £900,000 cost incorporates the cost of creating a design that will promote the UK around the world without compromising the plane’s vital military role. Voyager can better represent the UK around the world with national branding. All of the work has been done in the UK.”'
Considering the controversy surrounding it, you would think that someone would have said that several hundred thousand of that had been paid for a service of that were the case.
Nobody has. Except on this forum.
Intriguingly his MPs appear to believe the same thing:
'Boris Johnson was accused by his own MPs of “lurching from one PR disaster to another” after it emerged he has spent almost £1 million having his official'
This is a written question and the answer from the UK Parliament website:
'Voyager Aircraft: Repairs and Maintenance:Written question - 60776
Asked by Daniel Zeichner(Cambridge)Asked on: 17 June 2020
Ministry of DefenceVoyager Aircraft: Repairs and Maintenance 60776
To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, what the cost to the public purse is of the repainting of the RAF Voyager plane used by senior members of the Government.
Answered by: Jeremy Quin
Answered on: 22 June 2020
The total forecast cost for completing the repaint of the RAF Voyager VIP aircraft (including related costs) is approximately £900,000. The project will be carried out by Marshall Aerospace Defence Group (MADG) in Cambridge.'
So short of an invoice, it seems to be the position of the UK Government that the plane cost £900,000 to rebrand and repaint, not to service. Unless "related costs" of painting include full maintenance.
Perhaps there is nothing better to spend £900,000 on.
I will now watch people claim something else with complete certainty
I take it your also against hs2 then?
HS2 is being built to benefit commuters, businesses etc , Can you give me the tangible benefits of painting the plane? Bloody hell mate you dont know much about business and presentation.Would you turn up for a job in a pair of jeans and a t shirt rather than a suit? Perception plays a big part of it do you think you will be looked apon the same driving a ford escort as a Bentley? Advertising pays thats why its such big business, do you think companies like coca cola and mc donalds need to spend millions on ads every year they are household names? they do because it works.
What are you talking about? Do you honestly think that the EU or any other nation give a shit about what plane Boris and his team arrive in? How can that possible influence them? And what is the point in having a new shiny plane when Boris looks like a tramp???who,s talking about the eu they are done,yeah i do think countries give a shit impression is everything and nothing impresses like a big union flag.
I have said It before but it’s like putting a turd in a shiny new box, Well you ask what the point was i gave you a reason you might not agree with it but thats your prerogative but i suspect the people who do business on this site will understand.
Do business? We are talking about international trade deals between countries using experienced negotiators who won’t be influenced by the transport they use to get there .I am guessing your no where near that level? "
Nope but all relevant i wouldnt turn up for a meeting in jeans and trainers either. |
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"'The red, white and blue "rebranding" will cost about £900,000, No 10 said.'
Downing Street said it represented "value for money" and that all of the work was being done in the UK.'
'The Prime Minister’s spokesman said of the decision to repaint the jet from its standard grey:
“The £900,000 cost incorporates the cost of creating a design that will promote the UK around the world without compromising the plane’s vital military role. Voyager can better represent the UK around the world with national branding. All of the work has been done in the UK.”'
Considering the controversy surrounding it, you would think that someone would have said that several hundred thousand of that had been paid for a service of that were the case.
Nobody has. Except on this forum.
Intriguingly his MPs appear to believe the same thing:
'Boris Johnson was accused by his own MPs of “lurching from one PR disaster to another” after it emerged he has spent almost £1 million having his official'
This is a written question and the answer from the UK Parliament website:
'Voyager Aircraft: Repairs and Maintenance:Written question - 60776
Asked by Daniel Zeichner(Cambridge)Asked on: 17 June 2020
Ministry of DefenceVoyager Aircraft: Repairs and Maintenance 60776
To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, what the cost to the public purse is of the repainting of the RAF Voyager plane used by senior members of the Government.
Answered by: Jeremy Quin
Answered on: 22 June 2020
The total forecast cost for completing the repaint of the RAF Voyager VIP aircraft (including related costs) is approximately £900,000. The project will be carried out by Marshall Aerospace Defence Group (MADG) in Cambridge.'
So short of an invoice, it seems to be the position of the UK Government that the plane cost £900,000 to rebrand and repaint, not to service. Unless "related costs" of painting include full maintenance.
Perhaps there is nothing better to spend £900,000 on.
I will now watch people claim something else with complete certainty
I take it your also against hs2 then?
HS2 is being built to benefit commuters, businesses etc , Can you give me the tangible benefits of painting the plane? Bloody hell mate you dont know much about business and presentation.Would you turn up for a job in a pair of jeans and a t shirt rather than a suit? Perception plays a big part of it do you think you will be looked apon the same driving a ford escort as a Bentley? Advertising pays thats why its such big business, do you think companies like coca cola and mc donalds need to spend millions on ads every year they are household names? they do because it works.
What are you talking about? Do you honestly think that the EU or any other nation give a shit about what plane Boris and his team arrive in? How can that possible influence them? And what is the point in having a new shiny plane when Boris looks like a tramp???who,s talking about the eu they are done,yeah i do think countries give a shit impression is everything and nothing impresses like a big union flag.
I have said It before but it’s like putting a turd in a shiny new box, Well you ask what the point was i gave you a reason you might not agree with it but thats your prerogative but i suspect the people who do business on this site will understand.
Do business? We are talking about international trade deals between countries using experienced negotiators who won’t be influenced by the transport they use to get there .I am guessing your no where near that level? Nope but all relevant i wouldnt turn up for a meeting in jeans and trainers either. "
Who will be turning up in jeans and trainers? I thought they had painted a plane? Boris should buy a hair brush and a decent fitted suit, don’t you agree? |
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Know we have to advertise like those stickers for brasses in phone boxes to try and get a deal.
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"'The red, white and blue "rebranding" will cost about £900,000, No 10 said.'
Downing Street said it represented "value for money" and that all of the work was being done in the UK.'
'The Prime Minister’s spokesman said of the decision to repaint the jet from its standard grey:
“The £900,000 cost incorporates the cost of creating a design that will promote the UK around the world without compromising the plane’s vital military role. Voyager can better represent the UK around the world with national branding. All of the work has been done in the UK.”'
Considering the controversy surrounding it, you would think that someone would have said that several hundred thousand of that had been paid for a service of that were the case.
Nobody has. Except on this forum.
Intriguingly his MPs appear to believe the same thing:
'Boris Johnson was accused by his own MPs of “lurching from one PR disaster to another” after it emerged he has spent almost £1 million having his official'
This is a written question and the answer from the UK Parliament website:
'Voyager Aircraft: Repairs and Maintenance:Written question - 60776
Asked by Daniel Zeichner(Cambridge)Asked on: 17 June 2020
Ministry of DefenceVoyager Aircraft: Repairs and Maintenance 60776
To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, what the cost to the public purse is of the repainting of the RAF Voyager plane used by senior members of the Government.
Answered by: Jeremy Quin
Answered on: 22 June 2020
The total forecast cost for completing the repaint of the RAF Voyager VIP aircraft (including related costs) is approximately £900,000. The project will be carried out by Marshall Aerospace Defence Group (MADG) in Cambridge.'
So short of an invoice, it seems to be the position of the UK Government that the plane cost £900,000 to rebrand and repaint, not to service. Unless "related costs" of painting include full maintenance.
Perhaps there is nothing better to spend £900,000 on.
I will now watch people claim something else with complete certainty
I take it your also against hs2 then?
HS2 is being built to benefit commuters, businesses etc , Can you give me the tangible benefits of painting the plane? Bloody hell mate you dont know much about business and presentation.Would you turn up for a job in a pair of jeans and a t shirt rather than a suit? Perception plays a big part of it do you think you will be looked apon the same driving a ford escort as a Bentley? Advertising pays thats why its such big business, do you think companies like coca cola and mc donalds need to spend millions on ads every year they are household names? they do because it works.
What are you talking about? Do you honestly think that the EU or any other nation give a shit about what plane Boris and his team arrive in? How can that possible influence them? And what is the point in having a new shiny plane when Boris looks like a tramp???who,s talking about the eu they are done,yeah i do think countries give a shit impression is everything and nothing impresses like a big union flag.
I have said It before but it’s like putting a turd in a shiny new box, Well you ask what the point was i gave you a reason you might not agree with it but thats your prerogative but i suspect the people who do business on this site will understand.
Do business? We are talking about international trade deals between countries using experienced negotiators who won’t be influenced by the transport they use to get there .I am guessing your no where near that level? Nope but all relevant i wouldnt turn up for a meeting in jeans and trainers either. "
Lke that scruffy cunt Cummings? |
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"'The red, white and blue "rebranding" will cost about £900,000, No 10 said.'
Downing Street said it represented "value for money" and that all of the work was being done in the UK.'
'The Prime Minister’s spokesman said of the decision to repaint the jet from its standard grey:
“The £900,000 cost incorporates the cost of creating a design that will promote the UK around the world without compromising the plane’s vital military role. Voyager can better represent the UK around the world with national branding. All of the work has been done in the UK.”'
Considering the controversy surrounding it, you would think that someone would have said that several hundred thousand of that had been paid for a service of that were the case.
Nobody has. Except on this forum.
Intriguingly his MPs appear to believe the same thing:
'Boris Johnson was accused by his own MPs of “lurching from one PR disaster to another” after it emerged he has spent almost £1 million having his official'
This is a written question and the answer from the UK Parliament website:
'Voyager Aircraft: Repairs and Maintenance:Written question - 60776
Asked by Daniel Zeichner(Cambridge)Asked on: 17 June 2020
Ministry of DefenceVoyager Aircraft: Repairs and Maintenance 60776
To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, what the cost to the public purse is of the repainting of the RAF Voyager plane used by senior members of the Government.
Answered by: Jeremy Quin
Answered on: 22 June 2020
The total forecast cost for completing the repaint of the RAF Voyager VIP aircraft (including related costs) is approximately £900,000. The project will be carried out by Marshall Aerospace Defence Group (MADG) in Cambridge.'
So short of an invoice, it seems to be the position of the UK Government that the plane cost £900,000 to rebrand and repaint, not to service. Unless "related costs" of painting include full maintenance.
Perhaps there is nothing better to spend £900,000 on.
I will now watch people claim something else with complete certainty
I take it your also against hs2 then?
HS2 is being built to benefit commuters, businesses etc , Can you give me the tangible benefits of painting the plane? Bloody hell mate you dont know much about business and presentation.Would you turn up for a job in a pair of jeans and a t shirt rather than a suit? Perception plays a big part of it do you think you will be looked apon the same driving a ford escort as a Bentley? Advertising pays thats why its such big business, do you think companies like coca cola and mc donalds need to spend millions on ads every year they are household names? they do because it works.
What are you talking about? Do you honestly think that the EU or any other nation give a shit about what plane Boris and his team arrive in? How can that possible influence them? And what is the point in having a new shiny plane when Boris looks like a tramp???who,s talking about the eu they are done,yeah i do think countries give a shit impression is everything and nothing impresses like a big union flag.
I have said It before but it’s like putting a turd in a shiny new box, Well you ask what the point was i gave you a reason you might not agree with it but thats your prerogative but i suspect the people who do business on this site will understand.
Do business? We are talking about international trade deals between countries using experienced negotiators who won’t be influenced by the transport they use to get there .I am guessing your no where near that level? Nope but all relevant i wouldnt turn up for a meeting in jeans and trainers either.
Lke that scruffy cunt Cummings?"
Ha, he turns up in a t shirt and sandals , but when your the boss I suppose you wear what you like |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"Fairly sure we were told countries would be falling over themselves to do business with us.
Know we have to advertise like those stickers for brasses in phone boxes to try and get a deal.
You genuinely couldn't make this up."
yeah I get it your idea of doing business is turning up in a Yates wine lodge in a shell suit and doing a deal on the back of a woodbine packet. |
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"Fairly sure we were told countries would be falling over themselves to do business with us.
Know we have to advertise like those stickers for brasses in phone boxes to try and get a deal.
You genuinely couldn't make this up. yeah I get it your idea of doing business is turning up in a Yates wine lodge in a shell suit and doing a deal on the back of a woodbine packet. "
Is that what they were doing before the plane was painted?? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"A forth post. 
Who would have thought the repaipainting of an aircraft would have caused this much controversy in the forums.
Still looks cool though  "
Cool? |
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"A forth post.
Who would have thought the repaipainting of an aircraft would have caused this much controversy in the forums.
Still looks cool though
Cool? "
Yep ice cold. Just like the guy that signed it off  |
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"Fairly sure we were told countries would be falling over themselves to do business with us.
Know we have to advertise like those stickers for brasses in phone boxes to try and get a deal.
You genuinely couldn't make this up. yeah I get it your idea of doing business is turning up in a Yates wine lodge in a shell suit and doing a deal on the back of a woodbine packet. "
The 1980s called.
They want their joke back. |
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"A forth post.
Who would have thought the repaipainting of an aircraft would have caused this much controversy in the forums.
Still looks cool though
Cool?
Yep ice cold. Just like the guy that signed it off "
Boris is ‘cool’? |
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"A forth post.
Who would have thought the repaipainting of an aircraft would have caused this much controversy in the forums.
Still looks cool though
Cool?
Yep ice cold. Just like the guy that signed it off
Boris is ‘cool’? "
Yep that bewildered,clueless dimwit toff look is all the rage in Paris and Milan. |
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"A forth post.
Who would have thought the repaipainting of an aircraft would have caused this much controversy in the forums.
Still looks cool though
Cool?
Yep ice cold. Just like the guy that signed it off
Boris is ‘cool’? "
Oh god no. But to sign off £900,000 with everything else thats going on, that mans got a pretty cold attitude.
But hey its done now. |
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"A forth post.
Who would have thought the repaipainting of an aircraft would have caused this much controversy in the forums.
Still looks cool though
Cool?
Yep ice cold. Just like the guy that signed it off
Boris is ‘cool’?
Oh god no. But to sign off £900,000 with everything else thats going on, that mans got a pretty cold attitude.
But hey its done now."
Why does he have a ‘cool attitude’ ? |
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"A forth post.
Who would have thought the repaipainting of an aircraft would have caused this much controversy in the forums.
Still looks cool though
Cool?
Yep ice cold. Just like the guy that signed it off
Boris is ‘cool’?
Yep that bewildered,clueless dimwit toff look is all the rage in Paris and Milan."
It’s Tramp chic, |
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"A forth post.
Who would have thought the repaipainting of an aircraft would have caused this much controversy in the forums.
Still looks cool though
Cool?
Yep ice cold. Just like the guy that signed it off
Boris is ‘cool’?
Oh god no. But to sign off £900,000 with everything else thats going on, that mans got a pretty cold attitude.
But hey its done now.
Why does he have a ‘cool attitude’ ? "
Cold not cool |
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"A forth post.
Who would have thought the repaipainting of an aircraft would have caused this much controversy in the forums.
Still looks cool though
Cool?
Yep ice cold. Just like the guy that signed it off
Boris is ‘cool’?
Oh god no. But to sign off £900,000 with everything else thats going on, that mans got a pretty cold attitude.
But hey its done now.
Why does he have a ‘cool attitude’ ?
Cold not cool"
Ah, that makes more sense |
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"A forth post.
Who would have thought the repaipainting of an aircraft would have caused this much controversy in the forums.
Still looks cool though
Cool?
Yep ice cold. Just like the guy that signed it off
Boris is ‘cool’?
Oh god no. But to sign off £900,000 with everything else thats going on, that mans got a pretty cold attitude.
But hey its done now.
Why does he have a ‘cool attitude’ ?
Cold not cool
Ah, that makes more sense "
Glad I cleared that up.
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By *ony 2016Man
over a year ago
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"Talking of planes anyone seen the latest Brussels audit in 2019 donald tusk and his admin spent £400,000 on private jets in 2019. "
,,,,.which is less than half the amount it has cost us to paint one |
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"Talking of planes anyone seen the latest Brussels audit in 2019 donald tusk and his admin spent £400,000 on private jets in 2019. ,,,,.which is less than half the amount it has cost us to paint one "
I think you'll find the plane will be in service a little bit longer than 2 years.
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By *ony 2016Man
over a year ago
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"Talking of planes anyone seen the latest Brussels audit in 2019 donald tusk and his admin spent £400,000 on private jets in 2019. ,,,,.which is less than half the amount it has cost us to paint one
I think you'll find the plane will be in service a little bit longer than 2 years.
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,,,.,., at £900,000 for a paint job ,,, I hope it is |
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"Talking of planes anyone seen the latest Brussels audit in 2019 donald tusk and his admin spent £400,000 on private jets in 2019.
Nearly as much as the queen."
More fake news from Lionel.
The Queens last overseas trip was in 2015. |
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"Talking of planes anyone seen the latest Brussels audit in 2019 donald tusk and his admin spent £400,000 on private jets in 2019.
Nearly as much as the queen.
More fake news from Lionel.
The Queens last overseas trip was in 2015."
2.7 million spent on official travel last year. |
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"Talking of planes anyone seen the latest Brussels audit in 2019 donald tusk and his admin spent £400,000 on private jets in 2019.
Nearly as much as the queen.
More fake news from Lionel.
The Queens last overseas trip was in 2015.
2.7 million spent on official travel last year."
The queen never went overseas by plane. That's what you were implying. |
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"Talking of planes anyone seen the latest Brussels audit in 2019 donald tusk and his admin spent £400,000 on private jets in 2019. "
So, half a million quid less, for a whole year's flying, than one maintenance job, on one aircraft?
Good for him. |
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"Talking of planes anyone seen the latest Brussels audit in 2019 donald tusk and his admin spent £400,000 on private jets in 2019. "
And? We aren’t in the EU anymore so why is this relevant  |
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By *ony 2016Man
over a year ago
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"ZZ336 on operational duties last week.
Out of Lossiemouth, refuelling Typhoons sent to intercept Russian planes on a probing mission.
She looks stunning when flying.
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,,,,.. After a £900,000 face lift it would have been a little dissapointing if it didn't look stunning |
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