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"Since the sacking of RLB earlier this week for her apparent anti-semitism. How's he going to cope now the BLM have said this: "As Israel moves forward with the annexation of the West Bank, and mainstream British politics is gagged of the right to critique Zionism, and Israel’s settler colonial pursuits, we loudly and clearly stand beside our Palestinian comrades. FREE PALESTINE." Loving the use of the word "comrades" btw..." Probably nothing? | |||
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"He will make statements that criticise the 'current Israeli government policy' and not just generalise using the name Israel. It is possible to disagree with some thing the Israeli government does and not be anti-Zionic or anti-Semitic." Apparently not nowadays. | |||
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"He will make statements that criticise the 'current Israeli government policy' and not just generalise using the name Israel. It is possible to disagree with some thing the Israeli government does and not be anti-Zionic or anti-Semitic. Apparently not nowadays." Why not? | |||
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"He will make statements that criticise the 'current Israeli government policy' and not just generalise using the name Israel. It is possible to disagree with some thing the Israeli government does and not be anti-Zionic or anti-Semitic. Apparently not nowadays. Why not?" Well they tried to make any criticism of Israel to be anti semitic last year. | |||
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"He will make statements that criticise the 'current Israeli government policy' and not just generalise using the name Israel. It is possible to disagree with some thing the Israeli government does and not be anti-Zionic or anti-Semitic. Apparently not nowadays. Why not? Well they tried to make any criticism of Israel to be anti semitic last year." I think I must have missed that? Who did? | |||
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"He will make statements that criticise the 'current Israeli government policy' and not just generalise using the name Israel. It is possible to disagree with some thing the Israeli government does and not be anti-Zionic or anti-Semitic. Apparently not nowadays. Why not? Well they tried to make any criticism of Israel to be anti semitic last year. I think I must have missed that? Who did?" An investigation into the american legislature council in oct last year. | |||
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"Ignorance of Jewish culture is not an excuse for racism." In what way? | |||
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"Since the sacking of RLB earlier this week for her apparent anti-semitism. How's he going to cope now the BLM have said this: "As Israel moves forward with the annexation of the West Bank, and mainstream British politics is gagged of the right to critique Zionism, and Israel’s settler colonial pursuits, we loudly and clearly stand beside our Palestinian comrades. FREE PALESTINE." Loving the use of the word "comrades" btw..." Cope? What do you want him to do? | |||
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"Ignorance of Jewish culture is not an excuse for racism." ??? What in this thread or the topic being discussed has ignored Jewish culture or been racist? | |||
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"He will make statements that criticise the 'current Israeli government policy' and not just generalise using the name Israel. It is possible to disagree with some thing the Israeli government does and not be anti-Zionic or anti-Semitic. Apparently not nowadays. Why not? Well they tried to make any criticism of Israel to be anti semitic last year. I think I must have missed that? Who did? An investigation into the american legislature council in oct last year." Googling now. But at least it was in the US and not here. | |||
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"Since the sacking of RLB earlier this week for her apparent anti-semitism. How's he going to cope now the BLM have said this: "As Israel moves forward with the annexation of the West Bank, and mainstream British politics is gagged of the right to critique Zionism, and Israel’s settler colonial pursuits, we loudly and clearly stand beside our Palestinian comrades. FREE PALESTINE." Loving the use of the word "comrades" btw... Cope? What do you want him to do? " I think he should personally stand in the way of the bulldozers. That is well within his sphere of authority as the leader of the opposition in the U.K. Isn't it? Oh yeah. I forgot. It isn't. Other than the UK government registering a complaint, (which will be tossed in the nearest bin), we have absolutely no sway or say in way the Israeli government does. | |||
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"He will make statements that criticise the 'current Israeli government policy' and not just generalise using the name Israel. It is possible to disagree with some thing the Israeli government does and not be anti-Zionic or anti-Semitic. Apparently not nowadays. Why not? Well they tried to make any criticism of Israel to be anti semitic last year. I think I must have missed that? Who did? An investigation into the american legislature council in oct last year. Googling now. But at least it was in the US and not here." Have a look at the rlb bailey thread. There is certainly an issue in this country of anti semitism being exaggerated. | |||
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"Since the sacking of RLB earlier this week for her apparent anti-semitism. How's he going to cope now the BLM have said this: "As Israel moves forward with the annexation of the West Bank, and mainstream British politics is gagged of the right to critique Zionism, and Israel’s settler colonial pursuits, we loudly and clearly stand beside our Palestinian comrades. FREE PALESTINE." Loving the use of the word "comrades" btw..." He should stand shoulder to shoulder with the Palestinians like so many do justly in opposition to this illegal annexation of more of already illegally occupied land by isreal. There is nothing anti-Semitic about pointing out international law which says this is an illegal act and the west bank and other territories are illegally occupied Trump is quick to label BLM as terrorists but supports Zionist terrorists FREE PALESTINE | |||
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"Since the sacking of RLB earlier this week for her apparent anti-semitism. How's he going to cope now the BLM have said this: "As Israel moves forward with the annexation of the West Bank, and mainstream British politics is gagged of the right to critique Zionism, and Israel’s settler colonial pursuits, we loudly and clearly stand beside our Palestinian comrades. FREE PALESTINE." Loving the use of the word "comrades" btw..." Since when has this country been interested in foreign policy or putting pressure on any government? The only thing our gvt is interested is our belly button. Have you heard them being bullish with Russia, with Israel, with a China about Hong Kong, with Saudi Arabia? I can’t see why Starmer should lose sleep over this when the gvt couldn’t care less about it. | |||
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"Since the sacking of RLB earlier this week for her apparent anti-semitism. How's he going to cope now the BLM have said this: "As Israel moves forward with the annexation of the West Bank, and mainstream British politics is gagged of the right to critique Zionism, and Israel’s settler colonial pursuits, we loudly and clearly stand beside our Palestinian comrades. FREE PALESTINE." Loving the use of the word "comrades" btw... Since when has this country been interested in foreign policy or putting pressure on any government? The only thing our gvt is interested is our belly button. Have you heard them being bullish with Russia, with Israel, with a China about Hong Kong, with Saudi Arabia? I can’t see why Starmer should lose sleep over this when the gvt couldn’t care less about it. " I don't know much about Labours history with anti-Semitism but he should speak out because it's the right thing to do Under international law Israel is an illegal occupier of Palestinian lands The fact trump has his dirty hands all over this says it all Also says why Boris is keeping quiet Knows his place as a shameless lapdog to trump | |||
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"Since the sacking of RLB earlier this week for her apparent anti-semitism. How's he going to cope now the BLM have said this: "As Israel moves forward with the annexation of the West Bank, and mainstream British politics is gagged of the right to critique Zionism, and Israel’s settler colonial pursuits, we loudly and clearly stand beside our Palestinian comrades. FREE PALESTINE." Loving the use of the word "comrades" btw... Since when has this country been interested in foreign policy or putting pressure on any government? The only thing our gvt is interested is our belly button. Have you heard them being bullish with Russia, with Israel, with a China about Hong Kong, with Saudi Arabia? I can’t see why Starmer should lose sleep over this when the gvt couldn’t care less about it. I don't know much about Labours history with anti-Semitism but he should speak out because it's the right thing to do Under international law Israel is an illegal occupier of Palestinian lands The fact trump has his dirty hands all over this says it all Also says why Boris is keeping quiet Knows his place as a shameless lapdog to trump" I dont think he has been a vocal critic of isreal in the past. Probally not a wise move considering what they did to Corbyn | |||
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"He will make statements that criticise the 'current Israeli government policy' and not just generalise using the name Israel. It is possible to disagree with some thing the Israeli government does and not be anti-Zionic or anti-Semitic. Apparently not nowadays. Why not? Well they tried to make any criticism of Israel to be anti semitic last year. I think I must have missed that? Who did? " By forcing the "Working Definition..." created by the IHRA. There are some elements of this that make it difficult to separate the State of Israel and Jewishness. It was this that the Labour Party struggled with not so long back. | |||
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