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By *ice__bloke OP   Man  over a year ago

redcar

During and from the outbreak of this killer virus.

Has our leader Boris, been honest, trustworthy and transparent with us all ? ?

Is he a good leader for the UK ? ?

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"During and from the outbreak of this killer virus.

Has our leader Boris, been honest, trustworthy and transparent with us all ? ?

Is he a good leader for the UK ? ?"

Is this a trick question?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Has Boris been any of these throughout his entire life, let alone this crisis??

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By *andy 1Couple  over a year ago

northeast

good old boris churchil

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By *wisted999Man  over a year ago

North Bucks

I’m going out on a massive limb here

No he hasn’t

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By *9alMan  over a year ago

Bridgend

one word answer: NO

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By *ebjonnsonMan  over a year ago

Maldon

Revealed as the bumbling idiot that he is. European politicians seem so much more professional.

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By *oi_LucyCouple  over a year ago

Barbados

Boris who?

-Matt

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By *al2001Man  over a year ago

kildare

He has been a good leader for US farmers,big US pharma Inc and US corporate septic meat producers

But he is destroying the Uk

And all while UK people sits idly by and watches and says nothing

Boggles the mind

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By *mmabluTV/TS  over a year ago

upton wirral


"During and from the outbreak of this killer virus.

Has our leader Boris, been honest, trustworthy and transparent with us all ? ?

Is he a good leader for the UK ? ?"

Done badly with the virus but good over the EU,it is really to early to judge but needs to do better,lets hope he does

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Has Boris been any of these throughout his entire life, let alone this crisis??"

This..

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By *mmabluTV/TS  over a year ago

upton wirral


"He has been a good leader for US farmers,big US pharma Inc and US corporate septic meat producers

But he is destroying the Uk

And all while UK people sits idly by and watches and says nothing

Boggles the mind"

Absolute crap

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Nope, end of thread!

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By *illi3736Woman  over a year ago

Glasgow

Awww i wanted to be the one to point out he has basically been a bullshitter his entire life. He has been found out before in jobs, only this time we are all getting to judge him, If there is a second wave of the virus he will need to resign.....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"During and from the outbreak of this killer virus.

Has our leader Boris, been honest, trustworthy and transparent with us all ? ?

Is he a good leader for the UK ? ?Done badly with the virus but good over the EU,it is really to early to judge but needs to do better,lets hope he does"

You are right,he has done marvels with the EU.....putting the deal, that he himself, voted down back to them. Now he wants to rename on the deceleration that he, himself, agreed on.....

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By *al2001Man  over a year ago

kildare


"He has been a good leader for US farmers,big US pharma Inc and US corporate septic meat producers

But he is destroying the Uk

And all while UK people sits idly by and watches and says nothing

Boggles the mindAbsolute crap"

You mean you will be eating absolute crap,thanks to boris

Hormone,drug and septic pus filled meat and milk.yum yum

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By *elboy321Man  over a year ago

Paisley

Good leaders lead from the front, blundering baffoon Johnson is hardly seen. His handling of Cummings gate was car crash telly.

The mans a clown.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Good leaders lead from the front, blundering baffoon Johnson is hardly seen. His handling of Cummings gate was car crash telly.

The mans a clown."

This

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

No. He's criminally inept.

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By *L RogueMan  over a year ago

London

No

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By *ust RachelTV/TS  over a year ago

Horsham


"Awww i wanted to be the one to point out he has basically been a bullshitter his entire life. He has been found out before in jobs, only this time we are all getting to judge him, If there is a second wave of the virus he will need to resign..... "

He should have resigned when he caught the coronavirus, as he obviously wasn't abiding by the guidelines he put in place.

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By *ethnmelvCouple  over a year ago

Cardiff


"During and from the outbreak of this killer virus.

Has our leader Boris, been honest, trustworthy and transparent with us all ? ?

Is he a good leader for the UK ? ?Done badly with the virus but good over the EU,it is really to early to judge but needs to do better,lets hope he does"

Hmmm.

He has screwed up over Covid

Screwed up over Care Homes

Screwed up the economy

Screwed up Britains reputation abroad

Screwed up the country by not governing as the UK

Screwed up negotiations with the EU

Screwed up Schools and education

Screwed up by causing 65,000+ people to die when they shouldn’t have

Screwed up the families of these people

Screwed up sacking Dominic Cummings

Screwed up sacking Robert Jenrick

...the list just goes on, the man is a frigging disaster, and we are the one’s suffering his incompetence

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"During and from the outbreak of this killer virus.

Has our leader Boris, been honest, trustworthy and transparent with us all ? ?

Is he a good leader for the UK ? ?Done badly with the virus but good over the EU,it is really to early to judge but needs to do better,lets hope he does

Hmmm.

He has screwed up over Covid

Screwed up over Care Homes

Screwed up the economy

Screwed up Britains reputation abroad

Screwed up the country by not governing as the UK

Screwed up negotiations with the EU

Screwed up Schools and education

Screwed up by causing 65,000+ people to die when they shouldn’t have

Screwed up the families of these people

Screwed up sacking Dominic Cummings

Screwed up sacking Robert Jenrick

...the list just goes on, the man is a frigging disaster, and we are the one’s suffering his incompetence "

He did do the furlough scheme, but its more like putting sugar on top of shit.

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By *leasure domMan  over a year ago

Edinburgh

sugar on top of shit.....

That's the description of Johnson's hair.

That arse is truly deplorable. As is his father, who described the British public as illiterate.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"During and from the outbreak of this killer virus.

Has our leader Boris, been honest, trustworthy and transparent with us all ? ?

Is he a good leader for the UK ? ?"

He was the best leader on offer at the last General Election

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By *ice__bloke OP   Man  over a year ago

redcar

Hmmm.

He has screwed up over Covid

Screwed up over Care Homes

Screwed up the economy

Screwed up Britains reputation abroad

Screwed up the country by not governing as the UK

Screwed up negotiations with the EU

Screwed up Schools and education

Screwed up by causing 65,000+ people to die when they shouldn’t have

Screwed up the families of these people

Screwed up sacking Dominic Cummings

Screwed up sacking Robert Jenrick

...the list just goes on, the man is a frigging disaster, and we are the one’s suffering his incompetence

+ another fuck up from yesterday refuses to give 30 million quid to the poverty stricken poor who need free food - fkn glad an england footballer has shone a light on it how so out of touch this man is with the people.

+ fuck up number 2 today, he has stopped listening to the medical scientists now, the number has crept to over 1 which means infections will go up again! all his dumb preference to our top expert DOM CUMMINGS - who runs the country......

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Hmmm.

He has screwed up over Covid

Screwed up over Care Homes

Screwed up the economy

Screwed up Britains reputation abroad

Screwed up the country by not governing as the UK

Screwed up negotiations with the EU

Screwed up Schools and education

Screwed up by causing 65,000+ people to die when they shouldn’t have

Screwed up the families of these people

Screwed up sacking Dominic Cummings

Screwed up sacking Robert Jenrick

...the list just goes on, the man is a frigging disaster, and we are the one’s suffering his incompetence

+ another fuck up from yesterday refuses to give 30 million quid to the poverty stricken poor who need free food - fkn glad an england footballer has shone a light on it how so out of touch this man is with the people.

+ fuck up number 2 today, he has stopped listening to the medical scientists now, the number has crept to over 1 which means infections will go up again! all his dumb preference to our top expert DOM CUMMINGS - who runs the country......"

I thought he was doing alright, but when you put it like that..

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By *litheroevoyeurMan  over a year ago

Clitheroe


"Awww i wanted to be the one to point out he has basically been a bullshitter his entire life. He has been found out before in jobs, only this time we are all getting to judge him, If there is a second wave of the virus he will need to resign..... "

Oh you mean like all the other political leaders in countries that are experiencing a second wave?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Hmmm.

He has screwed up over Covid

Screwed up over Care Homes

Screwed up the economy

Screwed up Britains reputation abroad

Screwed up the country by not governing as the UK

Screwed up negotiations with the EU

Screwed up Schools and education

Screwed up by causing 65,000+ people to die when they shouldn’t have

Screwed up the families of these people

Screwed up sacking Dominic Cummings

Screwed up sacking Robert Jenrick

...the list just goes on, the man is a frigging disaster, and we are the one’s suffering his incompetence

+ another fuck up from yesterday refuses to give 30 million quid to the poverty stricken poor who need free food - fkn glad an england footballer has shone a light on it how so out of touch this man is with the people.

+ fuck up number 2 today, he has stopped listening to the medical scientists now, the number has crept to over 1 which means infections will go up again! all his dumb preference to our top expert DOM CUMMINGS - who runs the country......"

Best you run for prime minister then and show everyone how much better a job you can do.

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By *al2001Man  over a year ago

kildare


"Hmmm.

He has screwed up over Covid

Screwed up over Care Homes

Screwed up the economy

Screwed up Britains reputation abroad

Screwed up the country by not governing as the UK

Screwed up negotiations with the EU

Screwed up Schools and education

Screwed up by causing 65,000+ people to die when they shouldn’t have

Screwed up the families of these people

Screwed up sacking Dominic Cummings

Screwed up sacking Robert Jenrick

...the list just goes on, the man is a frigging disaster, and we are the one’s suffering his incompetence

+ another fuck up from yesterday refuses to give 30 million quid to the poverty stricken poor who need free food - fkn glad an england footballer has shone a light on it how so out of touch this man is with the people.

+ fuck up number 2 today, he has stopped listening to the medical scientists now, the number has crept to over 1 which means infections will go up again! all his dumb preference to our top expert DOM CUMMINGS - who runs the country......

Best you run for prime minister then and show everyone how much better a job you can do. "

He average person on the street would have done better than Boris

Seeing as UK was the last to be hit in Europe and other countries got it and had to react first,all he had to do was follow the lead of other countries

No he couldn't even do that,the arrogant cunt knew better

And the result of Boris's arrogance?

Highest death toll in world after his good friend and fellow fuck up trump and US

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By *al2001Man  over a year ago

kildare


"Hmmm.

He has screwed up over Covid

Screwed up over Care Homes

Screwed up the economy

Screwed up Britains reputation abroad

Screwed up the country by not governing as the UK

Screwed up negotiations with the EU

Screwed up Schools and education

Screwed up by causing 65,000+ people to die when they shouldn’t have

Screwed up the families of these people

Screwed up sacking Dominic Cummings

Screwed up sacking Robert Jenrick

...the list just goes on, the man is a frigging disaster, and we are the one’s suffering his incompetence

+ another fuck up from yesterday refuses to give 30 million quid to the poverty stricken poor who need free food - fkn glad an england footballer has shone a light on it how so out of touch this man is with the people.

+ fuck up number 2 today, he has stopped listening to the medical scientists now, the number has crept to over 1 which means infections will go up again! all his dumb preference to our top expert DOM CUMMINGS - who runs the country......"

You left out his biggest fuck up

The deal he is doing with US

Septic dangerous food,selling out NHS to big US pharma Inc,selling out UK farmer to US farming corporations

The list goes on and on

And he's only in power how long and look at what he's achieved

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By *ercuryMan  over a year ago

Grantham


"Hmmm.

He has screwed up over Covid

Screwed up over Care Homes

Screwed up the economy

Screwed up Britains reputation abroad

Screwed up the country by not governing as the UK

Screwed up negotiations with the EU

Screwed up Schools and education

Screwed up by causing 65,000+ people to die when they shouldn’t have

Screwed up the families of these people

Screwed up sacking Dominic Cummings

Screwed up sacking Robert Jenrick

...the list just goes on, the man is a frigging disaster, and we are the one’s suffering his incompetence

+ another fuck up from yesterday refuses to give 30 million quid to the poverty stricken poor who need free food - fkn glad an england footballer has shone a light on it how so out of touch this man is with the people.

+ fuck up number 2 today, he has stopped listening to the medical scientists now, the number has crept to over 1 which means infections will go up again! all his dumb preference to our top expert DOM CUMMINGS - who runs the country......"

Health matters are devolved.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Hmmm.

He has screwed up over Covid

Screwed up over Care Homes

Screwed up the economy

Screwed up Britains reputation abroad

Screwed up the country by not governing as the UK

Screwed up negotiations with the EU

Screwed up Schools and education

Screwed up by causing 65,000+ people to die when they shouldn’t have

Screwed up the families of these people

Screwed up sacking Dominic Cummings

Screwed up sacking Robert Jenrick

...the list just goes on, the man is a frigging disaster, and we are the one’s suffering his incompetence

+ another fuck up from yesterday refuses to give 30 million quid to the poverty stricken poor who need free food - fkn glad an england footballer has shone a light on it how so out of touch this man is with the people.

+ fuck up number 2 today, he has stopped listening to the medical scientists now, the number has crept to over 1 which means infections will go up again! all his dumb preference to our top expert DOM CUMMINGS - who runs the country......

Best you run for prime minister then and show everyone how much better a job you can do. "

Running, just to be an MP, is beyond the means of most people.

As for Boris, look at his record before being PM.....a litany of lies, gaffs and downright fuck ups, Ask Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe.

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"Hmmm.

He has screwed up over Covid

Screwed up over Care Homes

Screwed up the economy

Screwed up Britains reputation abroad

Screwed up the country by not governing as the UK

Screwed up negotiations with the EU

Screwed up Schools and education

Screwed up by causing 65,000+ people to die when they shouldn’t have

Screwed up the families of these people

Screwed up sacking Dominic Cummings

Screwed up sacking Robert Jenrick

...the list just goes on, the man is a frigging disaster, and we are the one’s suffering his incompetence

+ another fuck up from yesterday refuses to give 30 million quid to the poverty stricken poor who need free food - fkn glad an england footballer has shone a light on it how so out of touch this man is with the people.

+ fuck up number 2 today, he has stopped listening to the medical scientists now, the number has crept to over 1 which means infections will go up again! all his dumb preference to our top expert DOM CUMMINGS - who runs the country......

Best you run for prime minister then and show everyone how much better a job you can do. "

Standard defence

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

No and his leadership is deteriorating with each passing day. He is faced with the biggest socio-economic challenges and health crises since the war, however his approach fails in so many fronts compared with the better leaders around the Globe.

He is turning his decision making into an echo-chamber, reducing his calls for and participation in more collaborative approaches such as COBR. His appointments for the key posts in government are simply those who will do his bidding and the same goes for the latest appointment to the commission to deal with racial inequality. His litany of failures and the potential for it only getting worse, can only be described as complete incompetence. He is not alone and of course it is easy to cast aspersions from the couch, however he and his government have become increasingly detached from reality and have increasingly resorted to delusional, self-congratulatory rambling.

A world-beating performance of ineptitude to quote his own favourite double barrelled adjective.

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By *ice__bloke OP   Man  over a year ago

redcar

Rumors in Westminster he is not going to use the podium for the top professors of medicine any time soon - they are thinking of resigning.

His rolling out of different stooges every day is laughable reading from dom cummings scripts.

Dom cummings runs the country - Boris cant exist without him. It is embarrassing beyond belief.

This is a truly sad time for us the people.

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By *ice__bloke OP   Man  over a year ago

redcar

YeOldWitchDoctor's observations/quote is far better than i can write.

His litany of failures and the potential for it only getting worse, can only be described as complete incompetence. He is not alone and of course it is easy to cast aspersions from the couch, however he and his government have become increasingly detached from reality and have increasingly resorted to delusional, self-congratulatory rambling.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Hmmm.

He has screwed up over Covid

Screwed up over Care Homes

Screwed up the economy

Screwed up Britains reputation abroad

Screwed up the country by not governing as the UK

Screwed up negotiations with the EU

Screwed up Schools and education

Screwed up by causing 65,000+ people to die when they shouldn’t have

Screwed up the families of these people

Screwed up sacking Dominic Cummings

Screwed up sacking Robert Jenrick

...the list just goes on, the man is a frigging disaster, and we are the one’s suffering his incompetence

+ another fuck up from yesterday refuses to give 30 million quid to the poverty stricken poor who need free food - fkn glad an england footballer has shone a light on it how so out of touch this man is with the people.

+ fuck up number 2 today, he has stopped listening to the medical scientists now, the number has crept to over 1 which means infections will go up again! all his dumb preference to our top expert DOM CUMMINGS - who runs the country......

Best you run for prime minister then and show everyone how much better a job you can do.

Standard defence"

Yep, standard defence to all the people that love to say how utterly shit someone else is and how they should have done X y and z. If people have the answers and could do so much better, then do something about it, don't come back saying, but it's too hard or too expensive or but I'm not a politician, that's a total cop out. If it's so easy to do better, bloody well do it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Hmmm.

He has screwed up over Covid

Screwed up over Care Homes

Screwed up the economy

Screwed up Britains reputation abroad

Screwed up the country by not governing as the UK

Screwed up negotiations with the EU

Screwed up Schools and education

Screwed up by causing 65,000+ people to die when they shouldn’t have

Screwed up the families of these people

Screwed up sacking Dominic Cummings

Screwed up sacking Robert Jenrick

...the list just goes on, the man is a frigging disaster, and we are the one’s suffering his incompetence

+ another fuck up from yesterday refuses to give 30 million quid to the poverty stricken poor who need free food - fkn glad an england footballer has shone a light on it how so out of touch this man is with the people.

+ fuck up number 2 today, he has stopped listening to the medical scientists now, the number has crept to over 1 which means infections will go up again! all his dumb preference to our top expert DOM CUMMINGS - who runs the country......

Best you run for prime minister then and show everyone how much better a job you can do.

Standard defence

Yep, standard defence to all the people that love to say how utterly shit someone else is and how they should have done X y and z. If people have the answers and could do so much better, then do something about it, don't come back saying, but it's too hard or too expensive or but I'm not a politician, that's a total cop out. If it's so easy to do better, bloody well do it."

I know if I didn't turn up for 5 crucial meetings at work, well, I might not have a job. But, if you are happy with our PM going on holiday instead of planning for an impending pandemic....good for you.

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By *ice__bloke OP   Man  over a year ago

redcar

There is one thing missing from Boris's brain......

COMMON SENSE THAT WE ALL HAVE

What really made him loose the people was, putting a political close friend before the rest of us & our health in this huge huge crisis - the whole country.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"There is one thing missing from Boris's brain......

COMMON SENSE THAT WE ALL HAVE

What really made him loose the people was, putting a political close friend before the rest of us & our health in this huge huge crisis - the whole country."

Leave it out, he was testing his eye sight

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"Hmmm.

He has screwed up over Covid

Screwed up over Care Homes

Screwed up the economy

Screwed up Britains reputation abroad

Screwed up the country by not governing as the UK

Screwed up negotiations with the EU

Screwed up Schools and education

Screwed up by causing 65,000+ people to die when they shouldn’t have

Screwed up the families of these people

Screwed up sacking Dominic Cummings

Screwed up sacking Robert Jenrick

...the list just goes on, the man is a frigging disaster, and we are the one’s suffering his incompetence

+ another fuck up from yesterday refuses to give 30 million quid to the poverty stricken poor who need free food - fkn glad an england footballer has shone a light on it how so out of touch this man is with the people.

+ fuck up number 2 today, he has stopped listening to the medical scientists now, the number has crept to over 1 which means infections will go up again! all his dumb preference to our top expert DOM CUMMINGS - who runs the country......

Best you run for prime minister then and show everyone how much better a job you can do.

Standard defence

Yep, standard defence to all the people that love to say how utterly shit someone else is and how they should have done X y and z. If people have the answers and could do so much better, then do something about it, don't come back saying, but it's too hard or too expensive or but I'm not a politician, that's a total cop out. If it's so easy to do better, bloody well do it."

A more convincing argument would have been to list his achievements or attributes.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Hmmm.

He has screwed up over Covid

Screwed up over Care Homes

Screwed up the economy

Screwed up Britains reputation abroad

Screwed up the country by not governing as the UK

Screwed up negotiations with the EU

Screwed up Schools and education

Screwed up by causing 65,000+ people to die when they shouldn’t have

Screwed up the families of these people

Screwed up sacking Dominic Cummings

Screwed up sacking Robert Jenrick

...the list just goes on, the man is a frigging disaster, and we are the one’s suffering his incompetence

+ another fuck up from yesterday refuses to give 30 million quid to the poverty stricken poor who need free food - fkn glad an england footballer has shone a light on it how so out of touch this man is with the people.

+ fuck up number 2 today, he has stopped listening to the medical scientists now, the number has crept to over 1 which means infections will go up again! all his dumb preference to our top expert DOM CUMMINGS - who runs the country......

Best you run for prime minister then and show everyone how much better a job you can do.

Standard defence

Yep, standard defence to all the people that love to say how utterly shit someone else is and how they should have done X y and z. If people have the answers and could do so much better, then do something about it, don't come back saying, but it's too hard or too expensive or but I'm not a politician, that's a total cop out. If it's so easy to do better, bloody well do it.

A more convincing argument would have been to list his achievements or attributes."

Let's see how many we have by the end of this thread...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Hmmm.

He has screwed up over Covid

Screwed up over Care Homes

Screwed up the economy

Screwed up Britains reputation abroad

Screwed up the country by not governing as the UK

Screwed up negotiations with the EU

Screwed up Schools and education

Screwed up by causing 65,000+ people to die when they shouldn’t have

Screwed up the families of these people

Screwed up sacking Dominic Cummings

Screwed up sacking Robert Jenrick

...the list just goes on, the man is a frigging disaster, and we are the one’s suffering his incompetence

+ another fuck up from yesterday refuses to give 30 million quid to the poverty stricken poor who need free food - fkn glad an england footballer has shone a light on it how so out of touch this man is with the people.

+ fuck up number 2 today, he has stopped listening to the medical scientists now, the number has crept to over 1 which means infections will go up again! all his dumb preference to our top expert DOM CUMMINGS - who runs the country......

Best you run for prime minister then and show everyone how much better a job you can do.

Standard defence

Yep, standard defence to all the people that love to say how utterly shit someone else is and how they should have done X y and z. If people have the answers and could do so much better, then do something about it, don't come back saying, but it's too hard or too expensive or but I'm not a politician, that's a total cop out. If it's so easy to do better, bloody well do it.

A more convincing argument would have been to list his achievements or attributes."

I am not attempting to convince you of anything. Just sick and tired of armchair experts that offer nothing but criticism and a total lack of any willing or ability to do better.

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"Hmmm.

He has screwed up over Covid

Screwed up over Care Homes

Screwed up the economy

Screwed up Britains reputation abroad

Screwed up the country by not governing as the UK

Screwed up negotiations with the EU

Screwed up Schools and education

Screwed up by causing 65,000+ people to die when they shouldn’t have

Screwed up the families of these people

Screwed up sacking Dominic Cummings

Screwed up sacking Robert Jenrick

...the list just goes on, the man is a frigging disaster, and we are the one’s suffering his incompetence

+ another fuck up from yesterday refuses to give 30 million quid to the poverty stricken poor who need free food - fkn glad an england footballer has shone a light on it how so out of touch this man is with the people.

+ fuck up number 2 today, he has stopped listening to the medical scientists now, the number has crept to over 1 which means infections will go up again! all his dumb preference to our top expert DOM CUMMINGS - who runs the country......

Best you run for prime minister then and show everyone how much better a job you can do.

Standard defence

Yep, standard defence to all the people that love to say how utterly shit someone else is and how they should have done X y and z. If people have the answers and could do so much better, then do something about it, don't come back saying, but it's too hard or too expensive or but I'm not a politician, that's a total cop out. If it's so easy to do better, bloody well do it.

A more convincing argument would have been to list his achievements or attributes.

I am not attempting to convince you of anything. Just sick and tired of armchair experts that offer nothing but criticism and a total lack of any willing or ability to do better. "

So the people we elect to power are above criticism?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Hmmm.

He has screwed up over Covid

Screwed up over Care Homes

Screwed up the economy

Screwed up Britains reputation abroad

Screwed up the country by not governing as the UK

Screwed up negotiations with the EU

Screwed up Schools and education

Screwed up by causing 65,000+ people to die when they shouldn’t have

Screwed up the families of these people

Screwed up sacking Dominic Cummings

Screwed up sacking Robert Jenrick

...the list just goes on, the man is a frigging disaster, and we are the one’s suffering his incompetence

+ another fuck up from yesterday refuses to give 30 million quid to the poverty stricken poor who need free food - fkn glad an england footballer has shone a light on it how so out of touch this man is with the people.

+ fuck up number 2 today, he has stopped listening to the medical scientists now, the number has crept to over 1 which means infections will go up again! all his dumb preference to our top expert DOM CUMMINGS - who runs the country......

Best you run for prime minister then and show everyone how much better a job you can do.

Standard defence

Yep, standard defence to all the people that love to say how utterly shit someone else is and how they should have done X y and z. If people have the answers and could do so much better, then do something about it, don't come back saying, but it's too hard or too expensive or but I'm not a politician, that's a total cop out. If it's so easy to do better, bloody well do it.

A more convincing argument would have been to list his achievements or attributes.

I am not attempting to convince you of anything. Just sick and tired of armchair experts that offer nothing but criticism and a total lack of any willing or ability to do better. "

So, no offerings on the achievement front then??

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By *ethnmelvCouple  over a year ago

Cardiff

I forgot to put down...

Screwing up Covid Testing

Screwing up Track & Trace

Screwing up Kids School Meal support until MarcusRashford guilted him outi

...the list is endless reall, but no achievements

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Hmmm.

He has screwed up over Covid

Screwed up over Care Homes

Screwed up the economy

Screwed up Britains reputation abroad

Screwed up the country by not governing as the UK

Screwed up negotiations with the EU

Screwed up Schools and education

Screwed up by causing 65,000+ people to die when they shouldn’t have

Screwed up the families of these people

Screwed up sacking Dominic Cummings

Screwed up sacking Robert Jenrick

...the list just goes on, the man is a frigging disaster, and we are the one’s suffering his incompetence

+ another fuck up from yesterday refuses to give 30 million quid to the poverty stricken poor who need free food - fkn glad an england footballer has shone a light on it how so out of touch this man is with the people.

+ fuck up number 2 today, he has stopped listening to the medical scientists now, the number has crept to over 1 which means infections will go up again! all his dumb preference to our top expert DOM CUMMINGS - who runs the country......

Best you run for prime minister then and show everyone how much better a job you can do.

Standard defence

Yep, standard defence to all the people that love to say how utterly shit someone else is and how they should have done X y and z. If people have the answers and could do so much better, then do something about it, don't come back saying, but it's too hard or too expensive or but I'm not a politician, that's a total cop out. If it's so easy to do better, bloody well do it.

A more convincing argument would have been to list his achievements or attributes.

I am not attempting to convince you of anything. Just sick and tired of armchair experts that offer nothing but criticism and a total lack of any willing or ability to do better.

So the people we elect to power are above criticism?"

No, that's what a ballot box is for.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Hmmm.

He has screwed up over Covid

Screwed up over Care Homes

Screwed up the economy

Screwed up Britains reputation abroad

Screwed up the country by not governing as the UK

Screwed up negotiations with the EU

Screwed up Schools and education

Screwed up by causing 65,000+ people to die when they shouldn’t have

Screwed up the families of these people

Screwed up sacking Dominic Cummings

Screwed up sacking Robert Jenrick

...the list just goes on, the man is a frigging disaster, and we are the one’s suffering his incompetence

+ another fuck up from yesterday refuses to give 30 million quid to the poverty stricken poor who need free food - fkn glad an england footballer has shone a light on it how so out of touch this man is with the people.

+ fuck up number 2 today, he has stopped listening to the medical scientists now, the number has crept to over 1 which means infections will go up again! all his dumb preference to our top expert DOM CUMMINGS - who runs the country......

Best you run for prime minister then and show everyone how much better a job you can do.

Standard defence

Yep, standard defence to all the people that love to say how utterly shit someone else is and how they should have done X y and z. If people have the answers and could do so much better, then do something about it, don't come back saying, but it's too hard or too expensive or but I'm not a politician, that's a total cop out. If it's so easy to do better, bloody well do it.

A more convincing argument would have been to list his achievements or attributes.

I am not attempting to convince you of anything. Just sick and tired of armchair experts that offer nothing but criticism and a total lack of any willing or ability to do better.

So, no offerings on the achievement front then??"

Why would I play your games? Like I said, I'm not trying to convince anyone, let alone someone like you who endless posts about how much they hate the government. I'd put you down as a lost cause.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Hmmm.

He has screwed up over Covid

Screwed up over Care Homes

Screwed up the economy

Screwed up Britains reputation abroad

Screwed up the country by not governing as the UK

Screwed up negotiations with the EU

Screwed up Schools and education

Screwed up by causing 65,000+ people to die when they shouldn’t have

Screwed up the families of these people

Screwed up sacking Dominic Cummings

Screwed up sacking Robert Jenrick

...the list just goes on, the man is a frigging disaster, and we are the one’s suffering his incompetence

+ another fuck up from yesterday refuses to give 30 million quid to the poverty stricken poor who need free food - fkn glad an england footballer has shone a light on it how so out of touch this man is with the people.

+ fuck up number 2 today, he has stopped listening to the medical scientists now, the number has crept to over 1 which means infections will go up again! all his dumb preference to our top expert DOM CUMMINGS - who runs the country......

Best you run for prime minister then and show everyone how much better a job you can do.

Standard defence

Yep, standard defence to all the people that love to say how utterly shit someone else is and how they should have done X y and z. If people have the answers and could do so much better, then do something about it, don't come back saying, but it's too hard or too expensive or but I'm not a politician, that's a total cop out. If it's so easy to do better, bloody well do it.

A more convincing argument would have been to list his achievements or attributes.

I am not attempting to convince you of anything. Just sick and tired of armchair experts that offer nothing but criticism and a total lack of any willing or ability to do better.

So the people we elect to power are above criticism?

No, that's what a ballot box is for."

The thing you are forgetting, is that Johnson has been primed for this all his life. He is the 'cream of the crop'. The best education and privilege, yet he is so obviously not fit for purpose. No, not just anybody could do the job. That's the point, he is supposed to be good at this stuff, he isn't.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Hmmm.

He has screwed up over Covid

Screwed up over Care Homes

Screwed up the economy

Screwed up Britains reputation abroad

Screwed up the country by not governing as the UK

Screwed up negotiations with the EU

Screwed up Schools and education

Screwed up by causing 65,000+ people to die when they shouldn’t have

Screwed up the families of these people

Screwed up sacking Dominic Cummings

Screwed up sacking Robert Jenrick

...the list just goes on, the man is a frigging disaster, and we are the one’s suffering his incompetence

+ another fuck up from yesterday refuses to give 30 million quid to the poverty stricken poor who need free food - fkn glad an england footballer has shone a light on it how so out of touch this man is with the people.

+ fuck up number 2 today, he has stopped listening to the medical scientists now, the number has crept to over 1 which means infections will go up again! all his dumb preference to our top expert DOM CUMMINGS - who runs the country......

Best you run for prime minister then and show everyone how much better a job you can do.

Standard defence

Yep, standard defence to all the people that love to say how utterly shit someone else is and how they should have done X y and z. If people have the answers and could do so much better, then do something about it, don't come back saying, but it's too hard or too expensive or but I'm not a politician, that's a total cop out. If it's so easy to do better, bloody well do it.

A more convincing argument would have been to list his achievements or attributes.

I am not attempting to convince you of anything. Just sick and tired of armchair experts that offer nothing but criticism and a total lack of any willing or ability to do better.

So the people we elect to power are above criticism?

No, that's what a ballot box is for.

The thing you are forgetting, is that Johnson has been primed for this all his life. He is the 'cream of the crop'. The best education and privilege, yet he is so obviously not fit for purpose. No, not just anybody could do the job. That's the point, he is supposed to be good at this stuff, he isn't."

It's a job no politician will ever be good enough for. There will always be someone who thinks they can do better. You hold Boris personally accountable for any failure anywhere in government or policy you don't like. That is an unrealistic expectation of any human being on the planet. His job is to lead and effectively to be a figurehead, he is not there to personally manage every single aspect of every single roll in every single department. Governments are not god's, they cannot forsee every outcome, they cannot fix every problem. They have to make the hard decisions so you don't have to. It gives you a way to absolve yourself of guilt so you can blame someone else when people are hungry and homeless and sick instead of having to put your hand in your pocket and help them directly. And if you use the excuse of, well I can't afford to, well neither can the government some times. Their resources may be significantly more that yours, but they are not infinite.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Hmmm.

He has screwed up over Covid

Screwed up over Care Homes

Screwed up the economy

Screwed up Britains reputation abroad

Screwed up the country by not governing as the UK

Screwed up negotiations with the EU

Screwed up Schools and education

Screwed up by causing 65,000+ people to die when they shouldn’t have

Screwed up the families of these people

Screwed up sacking Dominic Cummings

Screwed up sacking Robert Jenrick

...the list just goes on, the man is a frigging disaster, and we are the one’s suffering his incompetence

+ another fuck up from yesterday refuses to give 30 million quid to the poverty stricken poor who need free food - fkn glad an england footballer has shone a light on it how so out of touch this man is with the people.

+ fuck up number 2 today, he has stopped listening to the medical scientists now, the number has crept to over 1 which means infections will go up again! all his dumb preference to our top expert DOM CUMMINGS - who runs the country......

Best you run for prime minister then and show everyone how much better a job you can do.

Standard defence

Yep, standard defence to all the people that love to say how utterly shit someone else is and how they should have done X y and z. If people have the answers and could do so much better, then do something about it, don't come back saying, but it's too hard or too expensive or but I'm not a politician, that's a total cop out. If it's so easy to do better, bloody well do it.

A more convincing argument would have been to list his achievements or attributes.

I am not attempting to convince you of anything. Just sick and tired of armchair experts that offer nothing but criticism and a total lack of any willing or ability to do better.

So the people we elect to power are above criticism?

No, that's what a ballot box is for.

The thing you are forgetting, is that Johnson has been primed for this all his life. He is the 'cream of the crop'. The best education and privilege, yet he is so obviously not fit for purpose. No, not just anybody could do the job. That's the point, he is supposed to be good at this stuff, he isn't.

It's a job no politician will ever be good enough for. There will always be someone who thinks they can do better. You hold Boris personally accountable for any failure anywhere in government or policy you don't like. That is an unrealistic expectation of any human being on the planet. His job is to lead and effectively to be a figurehead, he is not there to personally manage every single aspect of every single roll in every single department. Governments are not god's, they cannot forsee every outcome, they cannot fix every problem. They have to make the hard decisions so you don't have to. It gives you a way to absolve yourself of guilt so you can blame someone else when people are hungry and homeless and sick instead of having to put your hand in your pocket and help them directly. And if you use the excuse of, well I can't afford to, well neither can the government some times. Their resources may be significantly more that yours, but they are not infinite."

It's not 'god like' to simply turn up to meetings. It's not 'god like' to lockdown a week or so earlier when you have had prior warning. It's not 'god like' to shut the pubs instead of telling people simply not to go to them... I could go on..

These are basic things which he failed as a leader to do.

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By *L RogueMan  over a year ago

London


"Hmmm.

He has screwed up over Covid

Screwed up over Care Homes

Screwed up the economy

Screwed up Britains reputation abroad

Screwed up the country by not governing as the UK

Screwed up negotiations with the EU

Screwed up Schools and education

Screwed up by causing 65,000+ people to die when they shouldn’t have

Screwed up the families of these people

Screwed up sacking Dominic Cummings

Screwed up sacking Robert Jenrick

...the list just goes on, the man is a frigging disaster, and we are the one’s suffering his incompetence

+ another fuck up from yesterday refuses to give 30 million quid to the poverty stricken poor who need free food - fkn glad an england footballer has shone a light on it how so out of touch this man is with the people.

+ fuck up number 2 today, he has stopped listening to the medical scientists now, the number has crept to over 1 which means infections will go up again! all his dumb preference to our top expert DOM CUMMINGS - who runs the country......

Best you run for prime minister then and show everyone how much better a job you can do.

Standard defence

Yep, standard defence to all the people that love to say how utterly shit someone else is and how they should have done X y and z. If people have the answers and could do so much better, then do something about it, don't come back saying, but it's too hard or too expensive or but I'm not a politician, that's a total cop out. If it's so easy to do better, bloody well do it.

A more convincing argument would have been to list his achievements or attributes.

I am not attempting to convince you of anything. Just sick and tired of armchair experts that offer nothing but criticism and a total lack of any willing or ability to do better.

So the people we elect to power are above criticism?

No, that's what a ballot box is for.

The thing you are forgetting, is that Johnson has been primed for this all his life. He is the 'cream of the crop'. The best education and privilege, yet he is so obviously not fit for purpose. No, not just anybody could do the job. That's the point, he is supposed to be good at this stuff, he isn't.

It's a job no politician will ever be good enough for. There will always be someone who thinks they can do better. You hold Boris personally accountable for any failure anywhere in government or policy you don't like. That is an unrealistic expectation of any human being on the planet. His job is to lead and effectively to be a figurehead, he is not there to personally manage every single aspect of every single roll in every single department. Governments are not god's, they cannot forsee every outcome, they cannot fix every problem. They have to make the hard decisions so you don't have to. It gives you a way to absolve yourself of guilt so you can blame someone else when people are hungry and homeless and sick instead of having to put your hand in your pocket and help them directly. And if you use the excuse of, well I can't afford to, well neither can the government some times. Their resources may be significantly more that yours, but they are not infinite."

With all due respect, that's a very long cop out. Here's one to start: the furlough scheme has worked ok. What else?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Hmmm.

He has screwed up over Covid

Screwed up over Care Homes

Screwed up the economy

Screwed up Britains reputation abroad

Screwed up the country by not governing as the UK

Screwed up negotiations with the EU

Screwed up Schools and education

Screwed up by causing 65,000+ people to die when they shouldn’t have

Screwed up the families of these people

Screwed up sacking Dominic Cummings

Screwed up sacking Robert Jenrick

...the list just goes on, the man is a frigging disaster, and we are the one’s suffering his incompetence

+ another fuck up from yesterday refuses to give 30 million quid to the poverty stricken poor who need free food - fkn glad an england footballer has shone a light on it how so out of touch this man is with the people.

+ fuck up number 2 today, he has stopped listening to the medical scientists now, the number has crept to over 1 which means infections will go up again! all his dumb preference to our top expert DOM CUMMINGS - who runs the country......

Best you run for prime minister then and show everyone how much better a job you can do.

Standard defence

Yep, standard defence to all the people that love to say how utterly shit someone else is and how they should have done X y and z. If people have the answers and could do so much better, then do something about it, don't come back saying, but it's too hard or too expensive or but I'm not a politician, that's a total cop out. If it's so easy to do better, bloody well do it.

A more convincing argument would have been to list his achievements or attributes.

I am not attempting to convince you of anything. Just sick and tired of armchair experts that offer nothing but criticism and a total lack of any willing or ability to do better.

So the people we elect to power are above criticism?

No, that's what a ballot box is for.

The thing you are forgetting, is that Johnson has been primed for this all his life. He is the 'cream of the crop'. The best education and privilege, yet he is so obviously not fit for purpose. No, not just anybody could do the job. That's the point, he is supposed to be good at this stuff, he isn't.

It's a job no politician will ever be good enough for. There will always be someone who thinks they can do better. You hold Boris personally accountable for any failure anywhere in government or policy you don't like. That is an unrealistic expectation of any human being on the planet. His job is to lead and effectively to be a figurehead, he is not there to personally manage every single aspect of every single roll in every single department. Governments are not god's, they cannot forsee every outcome, they cannot fix every problem. They have to make the hard decisions so you don't have to. It gives you a way to absolve yourself of guilt so you can blame someone else when people are hungry and homeless and sick instead of having to put your hand in your pocket and help them directly. And if you use the excuse of, well I can't afford to, well neither can the government some times. Their resources may be significantly more that yours, but they are not infinite.

It's not 'god like' to simply turn up to meetings. It's not 'god like' to lockdown a week or so earlier when you have had prior warning. It's not 'god like' to shut the pubs instead of telling people simply not to go to them... I could go on..

These are basic things which he failed as a leader to do.

"

You have no idea what meetings he turned up to and whether he actually needed to be there, or did he send someone else better suited? I could go to a lot of meetings, it doesn't mean my input is needed or appropriate.

He could have shut the country down completely as soon as the virus was discovered, but that would have lead to a million and one people criticising him for damaging the economy even more and costing more people their livelihoods. You are bashing the government with the benefit of hindsight and no actual information about the knock on effects those decisions would have had. Like I said, it's a balancing act with shit outcomes on both sides. It isn't a case of choosing the good option, it's a case of looking at the biggest picture they can and making as informed a guess as they can as to which way it'll pan out. Someone on one side or other of the choice was going to suffer, it wouldn't matter who is in government and who had to make the choice. Yes the choices might have been different, but that just means a different group would suffer the consequences.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

We know for a fact he did not turn up for 5 COBRA meetings. We know for a fact he was on holiday for 2 weeks in February, 2 weeks in which countries like Germany were preparing.

Everybody knows this was an unprecedented event, but the things that other countries did, he just didn't do and had prior warning.

You think he is marvelous, good for you. Some of us don't and are well within our right to say so. I wish to god he had been better. A lot of families would not be grieving if he had been.

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"Hmmm.

He has screwed up over Covid

Screwed up over Care Homes

Screwed up the economy

Screwed up Britains reputation abroad

Screwed up the country by not governing as the UK

Screwed up negotiations with the EU

Screwed up Schools and education

Screwed up by causing 65,000+ people to die when they shouldn’t have

Screwed up the families of these people

Screwed up sacking Dominic Cummings

Screwed up sacking Robert Jenrick

...the list just goes on, the man is a frigging disaster, and we are the one’s suffering his incompetence

+ another fuck up from yesterday refuses to give 30 million quid to the poverty stricken poor who need free food - fkn glad an england footballer has shone a light on it how so out of touch this man is with the people.

+ fuck up number 2 today, he has stopped listening to the medical scientists now, the number has crept to over 1 which means infections will go up again! all his dumb preference to our top expert DOM CUMMINGS - who runs the country......

Best you run for prime minister then and show everyone how much better a job you can do.

Standard defence

Yep, standard defence to all the people that love to say how utterly shit someone else is and how they should have done X y and z. If people have the answers and could do so much better, then do something about it, don't come back saying, but it's too hard or too expensive or but I'm not a politician, that's a total cop out. If it's so easy to do better, bloody well do it.

A more convincing argument would have been to list his achievements or attributes.

I am not attempting to convince you of anything. Just sick and tired of armchair experts that offer nothing but criticism and a total lack of any willing or ability to do better.

So the people we elect to power are above criticism?

No, that's what a ballot box is for."

Ah I thought that's what a political forum was for.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"We know for a fact he did not turn up for 5 COBRA meetings. We know for a fact he was on holiday for 2 weeks in February, 2 weeks in which countries like Germany were preparing.

Everybody knows this was an unprecedented event, but the things that other countries did, he just didn't do and had prior warning.

You think he is marvelous, good for you. Some of us don't and are well within our right to say so. I wish to god he had been better. A lot of families would not be grieving if he had been."

I don't think he's marvelous, I think he's a human being that gets endless shit from people who love to tell him how crap he is but offer nothing that would help the situation. For example, if you don't like the government policy on school meals, feel free to criticise, but then go cook something for a hungry kid, or donate to a charity.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Hmmm.

He has screwed up over Covid

Screwed up over Care Homes

Screwed up the economy

Screwed up Britains reputation abroad

Screwed up the country by not governing as the UK

Screwed up negotiations with the EU

Screwed up Schools and education

Screwed up by causing 65,000+ people to die when they shouldn’t have

Screwed up the families of these people

Screwed up sacking Dominic Cummings

Screwed up sacking Robert Jenrick

...the list just goes on, the man is a frigging disaster, and we are the one’s suffering his incompetence

+ another fuck up from yesterday refuses to give 30 million quid to the poverty stricken poor who need free food - fkn glad an england footballer has shone a light on it how so out of touch this man is with the people.

+ fuck up number 2 today, he has stopped listening to the medical scientists now, the number has crept to over 1 which means infections will go up again! all his dumb preference to our top expert DOM CUMMINGS - who runs the country......

Best you run for prime minister then and show everyone how much better a job you can do.

Standard defence

Yep, standard defence to all the people that love to say how utterly shit someone else is and how they should have done X y and z. If people have the answers and could do so much better, then do something about it, don't come back saying, but it's too hard or too expensive or but I'm not a politician, that's a total cop out. If it's so easy to do better, bloody well do it.

A more convincing argument would have been to list his achievements or attributes.

I am not attempting to convince you of anything. Just sick and tired of armchair experts that offer nothing but criticism and a total lack of any willing or ability to do better.

So the people we elect to power are above criticism?

No, that's what a ballot box is for.

Ah I thought that's what a political forum was for."

Well, you keep criticising on the political forum and I'll go vote. I know which one will have a bigger impact on how the country is run.

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By *ercuryMan  over a year ago

Grantham


"We know for a fact he did not turn up for 5 COBRA meetings. We know for a fact he was on holiday for 2 weeks in February, 2 weeks in which countries like Germany were preparing.

Everybody knows this was an unprecedented event, but the things that other countries did, he just didn't do and had prior warning.

You think he is marvelous, good for you. Some of us don't and are well within our right to say so. I wish to god he had been better. A lot of families would not be grieving if he had been."

Where was BJ on holiday for two weeks in February?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"We know for a fact he did not turn up for 5 COBRA meetings. We know for a fact he was on holiday for 2 weeks in February, 2 weeks in which countries like Germany were preparing.

Everybody knows this was an unprecedented event, but the things that other countries did, he just didn't do and had prior warning.

You think he is marvelous, good for you. Some of us don't and are well within our right to say so. I wish to god he had been better. A lot of families would not be grieving if he had been.

Where was BJ on holiday for two weeks in February? "

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/coronavirus-boris-johnsons-country-manor-21891035

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By *ercuryMan  over a year ago

Grantham


"We know for a fact he did not turn up for 5 COBRA meetings. We know for a fact he was on holiday for 2 weeks in February, 2 weeks in which countries like Germany were preparing.

Everybody knows this was an unprecedented event, but the things that other countries did, he just didn't do and had prior warning.

You think he is marvelous, good for you. Some of us don't and are well within our right to say so. I wish to god he had been better. A lot of families would not be grieving if he had been.

Where was BJ on holiday for two weeks in February?

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/coronavirus-boris-johnsons-country-manor-21891035"

So he was in Downing St on Feb 14 and then again on Feb 24. Thats ten days, not two weeks.

In the meantime, he was working at a Goverment property.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"We know for a fact he did not turn up for 5 COBRA meetings. We know for a fact he was on holiday for 2 weeks in February, 2 weeks in which countries like Germany were preparing.

Everybody knows this was an unprecedented event, but the things that other countries did, he just didn't do and had prior warning.

You think he is marvelous, good for you. Some of us don't and are well within our right to say so. I wish to god he had been better. A lot of families would not be grieving if he had been.

Where was BJ on holiday for two weeks in February?

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/coronavirus-boris-johnsons-country-manor-21891035

So he was in Downing St on Feb 14 and then again on Feb 24. Thats ten days, not two weeks.

In the meantime, he was working at a Goverment property. "

And missing important meetings. Working? He certainly wasn't preparing for a pandemic. But, feel free to defend a bloke who has made a complete mess of pretty much everything he has touched.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

He was working so hard during the floods that nobody saw him. You are right, he works very hard

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Just to put the icing on the cake...

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/06/13/boris-johnson-scrapped-cabinet-pandemic-committee-six-months/

He is a walking disaster

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By *ercuryMan  over a year ago

Grantham


"We know for a fact he did not turn up for 5 COBRA meetings. We know for a fact he was on holiday for 2 weeks in February, 2 weeks in which countries like Germany were preparing.

Everybody knows this was an unprecedented event, but the things that other countries did, he just didn't do and had prior warning.

You think he is marvelous, good for you. Some of us don't and are well within our right to say so. I wish to god he had been better. A lot of families would not be grieving if he had been.

Where was BJ on holiday for two weeks in February?

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/coronavirus-boris-johnsons-country-manor-21891035

So he was in Downing St on Feb 14 and then again on Feb 24. Thats ten days, not two weeks.

In the meantime, he was working at a Goverment property.

And missing important meetings. Working? He certainly wasn't preparing for a pandemic. But, feel free to defend a bloke who has made a complete mess of pretty much everything he has touched."

Not defending anyone, just curious to where you get your facts from. In fact, Feb 14 to Feb 24 is actually 9 days, not 10 and certainly not 14.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"We know for a fact he did not turn up for 5 COBRA meetings. We know for a fact he was on holiday for 2 weeks in February, 2 weeks in which countries like Germany were preparing.

Everybody knows this was an unprecedented event, but the things that other countries did, he just didn't do and had prior warning.

You think he is marvelous, good for you. Some of us don't and are well within our right to say so. I wish to god he had been better. A lot of families would not be grieving if he had been.

Where was BJ on holiday for two weeks in February?

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/coronavirus-boris-johnsons-country-manor-21891035

So he was in Downing St on Feb 14 and then again on Feb 24. Thats ten days, not two weeks.

In the meantime, he was working at a Goverment property.

And missing important meetings. Working? He certainly wasn't preparing for a pandemic. But, feel free to defend a bloke who has made a complete mess of pretty much everything he has touched.

Not defending anyone, just curious to where you get your facts from. In fact, Feb 14 to Feb 24 is actually 9 days, not 10 and certainly not 14.

"

Ok, let's give him the benefit of the doubt. He wasn't at the helm on the eve of a pandemic. Not great is it?? 5 COBRA meetings?

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By *ethnmelvCouple  over a year ago

Cardiff

So the best we’ve got from BJ supporters is ‘could we do better’! Frankly of course we bloody could. He is asleep at the wheel and has cost at least 65,000 people their lives. His approach, his policies, the team he chose have all screwed up.

Who couldn’t do better than this - don’t bother harking back to Jezza by the way, but even then I imagine BJ would still have done worse

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"During and from the outbreak of this killer virus.

Has our leader Boris, been honest, trustworthy and transparent with us all ? ?

Is he a good leader for the UK ? ?"

How many press conferences has he done? When i have seen him hes been a mumbling wreck and swerves difficult questions,he should watch how a real leader acts by watching nocola sturgeoun who has done every press conference and answers every question as best she can

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Messed up on the pandemic response for Covid. Especially with PPE and the way the hospitals were handled.

Did well on handling economic issues due to covid by compensating pay for most workers.

Doing well on Brexit negotiations too.

Somewhere on the middle right now. Till a long time to go before we can decide if he is a good leader. Would be interesting to see if he can fulfil his manifesto promises amidst the chaos.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Messed up on the pandemic response for Covid. Especially with PPE and the way the hospitals were handled.

Did well on handling economic issues due to covid by compensating pay for most workers.

Doing well on Brexit negotiations too.

Somewhere on the middle right now. Till a long time to go before we can decide if he is a good leader. Would be interesting to see if he can fulfil his manifesto promises amidst the chaos."

Why is he doing well on Brexit negotiations?

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By *ittleAcornMan  over a year ago

visiting the beach


"Messed up on the pandemic response for Covid. Especially with PPE and the way the hospitals were handled.

Did well on handling economic issues due to covid by compensating pay for most workers.

Doing well on Brexit negotiations too.

Somewhere on the middle right now. Till a long time to go before we can decide if he is a good leader. Would be interesting to see if he can fulfil his manifesto promises amidst the chaos.

Why is he doing well on Brexit negotiations?

"

That was my thought too. As far as I can make out, he's thrown out what was previously agreed and trying to make the EU accept stuff they have said all along they won't.

Effectively winding down the clock until we hit a real no-deal Brexit, which is no good for anyone. Apart from a handful of city types and the people they donate to, any idea who that might be?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Messed up on the pandemic response for Covid. Especially with PPE and the way the hospitals were handled.

Did well on handling economic issues due to covid by compensating pay for most workers.

Doing well on Brexit negotiations too.

Somewhere on the middle right now. Till a long time to go before we can decide if he is a good leader. Would be interesting to see if he can fulfil his manifesto promises amidst the chaos.

Why is he doing well on Brexit negotiations?

That was my thought too. As far as I can make out, he's thrown out what was previously agreed and trying to make the EU accept stuff they have said all along they won't.

Effectively winding down the clock until we hit a real no-deal Brexit, which is no good for anyone. Apart from a handful of city types and the people they donate to, any idea who that might be?"

We are leaving without a deal, that has always been his and his rich friends plan . Once he has achieved this he will resign and start making money from a no deal Brexit but I suppose that’s what the leave voters knew and always wanted

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I think he would be a good laugh on a night out, at least he has a sense of humour. I didn't vote for him but I think he's doing his best in very taxing times. Hope he gets the pubs open soon.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I think he would be a good laugh on a night out, at least he has a sense of humour. I didn't vote for him but I think he's doing his best in very taxing times. Hope he gets the pubs open soon. "

You do realise that he is making jokes and laughing at us not with us

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool

Tbf he has done a cracking job in getting people to believe he actually gives a fuck about them.

Wont be pretty when the penny drops though.

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By *hybloke67Man  over a year ago

ROMFORD


"During and from the outbreak of this killer virus.

Has our leader Boris, been honest, trustworthy and transparent with us all ? ?

Is he a good leader for the UK ? ?

How many press conferences has he done? When i have seen him hes been a mumbling wreck and swerves difficult questions,he should watch how a real leader acts by watching nocola sturgeoun who has done every press conference and answers every question as best she can "

Or she is a control freak and will not let anyone else do the press conference.!

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By *ireman28Man  over a year ago

Derbyshire Nottinghamshire

Not at all.

He isn't fit to run a bath.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Messed up on the pandemic response for Covid. Especially with PPE and the way the hospitals were handled.

Did well on handling economic issues due to covid by compensating pay for most workers.

Doing well on Brexit negotiations too.

Somewhere on the middle right now. Till a long time to go before we can decide if he is a good leader. Would be interesting to see if he can fulfil his manifesto promises amidst the chaos.

Why is he doing well on Brexit negotiations? "

He is playing his cards right instead of bending down to them. EU tried to force an extension and the UK didn't accept.

UK wants a Japan or Canada style agreement without being held under EU's control by any means. The government is using the fishing rights as negotiation power. This is the way to negotiate if you want a better deal. What else do you expect?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Messed up on the pandemic response for Covid. Especially with PPE and the way the hospitals were handled.

Did well on handling economic issues due to covid by compensating pay for most workers.

Doing well on Brexit negotiations too.

Somewhere on the middle right now. Till a long time to go before we can decide if he is a good leader. Would be interesting to see if he can fulfil his manifesto promises amidst the chaos.

Why is he doing well on Brexit negotiations?

He is playing his cards right instead of bending down to them. EU tried to force an extension and the UK didn't accept.

UK wants a Japan or Canada style agreement without being held under EU's control by any means. The government is using the fishing rights as negotiation power. This is the way to negotiate if you want a better deal. What else do you expect?"

I expect him to honour the terms of his ‘oven ready deal’ . How big is the fishing industry in the UK & EU?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Tbf he has done a cracking job in getting people to believe he actually gives a fuck about them.

Wont be pretty when the penny drops though."

The penny will never drop, the cult is to strong, if the shit hits the fan it won’t be Boris’s fault.

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool

Pm"s plane getting painted.900k.

Magic money tree etc.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Boris has never been a good anything!

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By *ercuryMan  over a year ago

Grantham


"Pm"s plane getting painted.900k.

Magic money tree etc."

Its not the PM's plane. It belongs to the RAF, and is used to fly The Royal Family and members of the Goverment around the world on official business. Many Governments around the world have one.

Its at Cambridge, due a scheduled repaint. Many RAF planes have had special custom repaints over the years.

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By *andy 1Couple  over a year ago

northeast


"Hmmm.

He has screwed up over Covid

Screwed up over Care Homes

Screwed up the economy

Screwed up Britains reputation abroad

Screwed up the country by not governing as the UK

Screwed up negotiations with the EU

Screwed up Schools and education

Screwed up by causing 65,000+ people to die when they shouldn’t have

Screwed up the families of these people

Screwed up sacking Dominic Cummings

Screwed up sacking Robert Jenrick

...the list just goes on, the man is a frigging disaster, and we are the one’s suffering his incompetence

+ another fuck up from yesterday refuses to give 30 million quid to the poverty stricken poor who need free food - fkn glad an england footballer has shone a light on it how so out of touch this man is with the people.

+ fuck up number 2 today, he has stopped listening to the medical scientists now, the number has crept to over 1 which means infections will go up again! all his dumb preference to our top expert DOM CUMMINGS - who runs the country......

Best you run for prime minister then and show everyone how much better a job you can do. "

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By *andy 1Couple  over a year ago

northeast


"Pm"s plane getting painted.900k.

Magic money tree etc."

dident know the pm had a plane

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"Pm"s plane getting painted.900k.

Magic money tree etc.

Its not the PM's plane. It belongs to the RAF, and is used to fly The Royal Family and members of the Goverment around the world on official business. Many Governments around the world have one.

Its at Cambridge, due a scheduled repaint. Many RAF planes have had special custom repaints over the years. "

Yep.its clearly a priority

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By *ittleAcornMan  over a year ago

visiting the beach


"Pm"s plane getting painted.900k.

Magic money tree etc.

Its not the PM's plane. It belongs to the RAF, and is used to fly The Royal Family and members of the Goverment around the world on official business. Many Governments around the world have one.

Its at Cambridge, due a scheduled repaint. Many RAF planes have had special custom repaints over the years.

Yep.its clearly a priority

"

There never used to be a plane for this use. Not until Cameron spent £5m adding a luxury compartment to it.

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By *igsteve43Man  over a year ago

derby

Well there is one person who would have been worse ,and that's why we have boko the clown in the first place

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By *ethnmelvCouple  over a year ago

Cardiff


"Well there is one person who would have been worse ,and that's why we have boko the clown in the first place"

But the thing is, would he have been worse? BJ has been utterly shit at everything - just ask the Student Nurses we’ve all been clapping for 10 weeks...

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"Well there is one person who would have been worse ,and that's why we have boko the clown in the first place

But the thing is, would he have been worse? BJ has been utterly shit at everything - just ask the Student Nurses we’ve all been clapping for 10 weeks... "

Scandalous that

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Boris has never been a good anything! "

Lying and Whiff Whaff??

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Hmmm.

He has screwed up over Covid

Screwed up over Care Homes

Screwed up the economy

Screwed up Britains reputation abroad

Screwed up the country by not governing as the UK

Screwed up negotiations with the EU

Screwed up Schools and education

Screwed up by causing 65,000+ people to die when they shouldn’t have

Screwed up the families of these people

Screwed up sacking Dominic Cummings

Screwed up sacking Robert Jenrick

...the list just goes on, the man is a frigging disaster, and we are the one’s suffering his incompetence

+ another fuck up from yesterday refuses to give 30 million quid to the poverty stricken poor who need free food - fkn glad an england footballer has shone a light on it how so out of touch this man is with the people.

+ fuck up number 2 today, he has stopped listening to the medical scientists now, the number has crept to over 1 which means infections will go up again! all his dumb preference to our top expert DOM CUMMINGS - who runs the country......

Best you run for prime minister then and show everyone how much better a job you can do.

Standard defence

Yep, standard defence to all the people that love to say how utterly shit someone else is and how they should have done X y and z. If people have the answers and could do so much better, then do something about it, don't come back saying, but it's too hard or too expensive or but I'm not a politician, that's a total cop out. If it's so easy to do better, bloody well do it.

A more convincing argument would have been to list his achievements or attributes.

I am not attempting to convince you of anything. Just sick and tired of armchair experts that offer nothing but criticism and a total lack of any willing or ability to do better.

So the people we elect to power are above criticism?

No, that's what a ballot box is for.

The thing you are forgetting, is that Johnson has been primed for this all his life. He is the 'cream of the crop'. The best education and privilege, yet he is so obviously not fit for purpose. No, not just anybody could do the job. That's the point, he is supposed to be good at this stuff, he isn't.

It's a job no politician will ever be good enough for. There will always be someone who thinks they can do better. You hold Boris personally accountable for any failure anywhere in government or policy you don't like. That is an unrealistic expectation of any human being on the planet. His job is to lead and effectively to be a figurehead, he is not there to personally manage every single aspect of every single roll in every single department. Governments are not god's, they cannot forsee every outcome, they cannot fix every problem. They have to make the hard decisions so you don't have to. It gives you a way to absolve yourself of guilt so you can blame someone else when people are hungry and homeless and sick instead of having to put your hand in your pocket and help them directly. And if you use the excuse of, well I can't afford to, well neither can the government some times. Their resources may be significantly more that yours, but they are not infinite.

With all due respect, that's a very long cop out. Here's one to start: the furlough scheme has worked ok. What else?"

Hmmm. Nothing

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By *hilMan  over a year ago

HOUGHTON LE SPRING


"Boris has never been a good anything!

Lying and Whiff Whaff?? "

Breaking promises

Making racist remarks

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By *ice__bloke OP   Man  over a year ago

redcar

The huge glaring reason why he is shit is he needs Dom Cummings to survive - all Boris prepares for is reading his speeches - like in his public school days , all the tory drivel scripts are written by him and of cors the slogans to be fed to the press.

Our prime ministers - use chief secretaries and the cogs behind our machine that has been there for decades.

Dom Cummings is our leader/chief secretary, Boris the buffoon is his puppet. Our supreme leader is open to all democratic criticism

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

History will be something like this..

Churchill = Great Leader who won WW2 who became a racist long after he died.

Anthony Eden = Toff

Harold Macmillan = You have never had it so good toff

Harold Wilson = Pound in your Pocket and pipe smoker married to Mary

Edward Heath = Gay? Bachelor and the 3 day week.

Margaret Thatcher = Thrashed the Argentinians and the Unions.

John Major = Grey Man

Tony Blair = Invented New Labour but got it wrong over Iraq.

George Brown = Emptied the Treasury and also from Scotland.

Theresa May = Who was she??

David Cameron = Responsible for Brexit disaster.

Boris (wing it) Johnson. Bumbling toff and excessive Pandemic deaths in UK.

We get what we deserve.

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By *ice__bloke OP   Man  over a year ago

redcar

Excellent summing up post -

History will be something like this..

Churchill = Great Leader who won WW2 who became a racist long after he died.

Anthony Eden = Toff

Harold Macmillan = You have never had it so good toff

Harold Wilson = Pound in your Pocket and pipe smoker married to Mary

Edward Heath = Gay? Bachelor and the 3 day week.

Margaret Thatcher = Thrashed the Argentinians and the Unions.

John Major = Grey Man

Tony Blair = Invented New Labour but got it wrong over Iraq.

George Brown = Emptied the Treasury and also from Scotland.

Theresa May = Who was she??

David Cameron = Responsible for Brexit disaster.

Boris (wing it) Johnson. Bumbling toff and excessive Pandemic deaths in UK.

We get what we deserve.

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"Excellent summing up post -

History will be something like this..

Churchill = Great Leader who won WW2 who became a racist long after he died.

Anthony Eden = Toff

Harold Macmillan = You have never had it so good toff

Harold Wilson = Pound in your Pocket and pipe smoker married to Mary

Edward Heath = Gay? Bachelor and the 3 day week.

Margaret Thatcher = Thrashed the Argentinians and the Unions.

John Major = Grey Man

Tony Blair = Invented New Labour but got it wrong over Iraq.

George Brown = Emptied the Treasury and also from Scotland.

Theresa May = Who was she??

David Cameron = Responsible for Brexit disaster.

Boris (wing it) Johnson. Bumbling toff and excessive Pandemic deaths in UK.

We get what we deserve."

I could think of a few other words for Thatcher.

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By *L RogueMan  over a year ago

London

Can we add keeping Dominic "nice but dim" Raab as Foreign Secretary to Johnson's list of crimes please? Thanks.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Can we add keeping Dominic "nice but dim" Raab as Foreign Secretary to Johnson's list of crimes please? Thanks."

Totally agree with Raab today he said what most of us are thinking. As for the original question, yes, hes a fantastic PM.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Boris has never been a good anything!

Lying and Whiff Whaff?? "

Aahhh you have me there!

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By *ice__bloke OP   Man  over a year ago

redcar

CORONA FUCK UP NO 38

THE PHONE VIRUS TRACING APP THAT BORIS

PROMISED

" WOULD BE WORLD BEATING "

DOESN'T FKN WORK !!!!

ffs YES BORIS THE GERMANS HAD THE CORRECT ONTOP OF IT PROCESS 2 MONTHS AGO

THIS IS EMBARRASSING BEYOND BELIEF NOW !

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"During and from the outbreak of this killer virus.

Has our leader Boris, been honest, trustworthy and transparent with us all ? ?

Is he a good leader for the UK ? ?"

No

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By *L RogueMan  over a year ago

London


"Can we add keeping Dominic "nice but dim" Raab as Foreign Secretary to Johnson's list of crimes please? Thanks.

Totally agree with Raab today he said what most of us are thinking. As for the original question, yes, hes a fantastic PM."

If Raab is going to comment on social movements, as Foreign Secretary, he needs to be more up to speed than he showed in that interview.

Fantastic? Why?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Can we add keeping Dominic "nice but dim" Raab as Foreign Secretary to Johnson's list of crimes please? Thanks.

Totally agree with Raab today he said what most of us are thinking. As for the original question, yes, hes a fantastic PM."

‘Most of us’? Do you mean the knuckle draggers who were ‘protecting ‘ statues last weekend?

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By *ercuryMan  over a year ago

Grantham


"CORONA FUCK UP NO 38

THE PHONE VIRUS TRACING APP THAT BORIS

PROMISED

" WOULD BE WORLD BEATING "

DOESN'T FKN WORK !!!!

ffs YES BORIS THE GERMANS HAD THE CORRECT ONTOP OF IT PROCESS 2 MONTHS AGO

THIS IS EMBARRASSING BEYOND BELIEF NOW !"

Germany only issued their app on Monday!

Its entirely voluntary and will need a 60%+ take up to start being effective.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Can we add keeping Dominic "nice but dim" Raab as Foreign Secretary to Johnson's list of crimes please? Thanks.

Totally agree with Raab today he said what most of us are thinking. As for the original question, yes, hes a fantastic PM.

‘Most of us’? Do you mean the knuckle draggers who were ‘protecting ‘ statues last weekend? "

Nope I mean the silent majority like my freinds, neighbours and colleagues. You will know them, they are the same lot who gave Boris a thumping majority in December. They see all these idiots protesting, kneeling and just roll their eyes and carry on

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By *al2001Man  over a year ago

kildare


"Can we add keeping Dominic "nice but dim" Raab as Foreign Secretary to Johnson's list of crimes please? Thanks.

Totally agree with Raab today he said what most of us are thinking. As for the original question, yes, hes a fantastic PM.

‘Most of us’? Do you mean the knuckle draggers who were ‘protecting ‘ statues last weekend?

Nope I mean the silent majority like my freinds, neighbours and colleagues. You will know them, they are the same lot who gave Boris a thumping majority in December. They see all these idiots protesting, kneeling and just roll their eyes and carry on "

Ye your part of the silent majority

Silent as Boris sells out UK to huge US corporate food producers with their septic drug filled meat that Europeans wouldn't allow be fed dogs

Yum yum

Thanks Boris

After that gem of a deal it's on to selling out NHS to big US corporate pharma Inc

What do you and your silent friends say to that?

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By *ocky_jim2000Man  over a year ago

Tavistock

No. Because Boris is only in politics to present himself. Why did he run to be leader? Because after his spell as london mayor he was otherwise destined to be a nobody for the rest of his life!

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By *V-AliceTV/TS  over a year ago

Ayr


"Nope I mean the silent majority like my freinds, neighbours and colleagues. You will know them, they are the same lot who gave Boris a thumping majority in December. They see all these idiots protesting, kneeling and just roll their eyes and carry on "

You and your friends aren't the majority, silent or otherwise. You didn't give Boris a majority, the First-Past-The-Post system did.

If the UK were a real democracy, like Germany, the Tories would have 43.6% of the seats in Parliament; not a majority.

The current government, from the leader downwards, are utterly out of their depth; for the simple reason that they are the dregs of what the Tory Party has to offer.

Most of their more capable politicians were purged to ensure Brexit purity. For that one issue, it's maybe ok for getting a deal - though, more likely, not. Either way, they're singing from the same hymn sheet; united, in a way the UK just isn't.

However, for the world-changing event of Covid-19, the current Cabinet have been, for the most part, fucking useless.

"Corbyn would have been worse", "You couldn't do any better". Feel free to squeal that whataboutery shite at me all you like. It's not relevant.

YOUR idols are in charge and if today's Daily Mail can get stuck into them for their many inadequacies, then so can the majority of us who did not vote for them.

When you defend Boris and his Government you are telling everyone you're happy to settle for incompetent mediocrity.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Can we add keeping Dominic "nice but dim" Raab as Foreign Secretary to Johnson's list of crimes please? Thanks.

Totally agree with Raab today he said what most of us are thinking. As for the original question, yes, hes a fantastic PM.

‘Most of us’? Do you mean the knuckle draggers who were ‘protecting ‘ statues last weekend?

Nope I mean the silent majority like my freinds, neighbours and colleagues. You will know them, they are the same lot who gave Boris a thumping majority in December. They see all these idiots protesting, kneeling and just roll their eyes and carry on

Ye your part of the silent majority

Silent as Boris sells out UK to huge US corporate food producers with their septic drug filled meat that Europeans wouldn't allow be fed dogs

Yum yum

Thanks Boris

After that gem of a deal it's on to selling out NHS to big US corporate pharma Inc

What do you and your silent friends say to that?"

Well as a food industry professional for 15 years Im more concerned about Polish Beef... that stuff will kill you

Selling the nhs yawn

So yes we're all very happy, just imagine the hell if Jeremy Corbyn and Diane Abbot were in charge (thankfully because of the silent majority they never will be).

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Nope I mean the silent majority like my freinds, neighbours and colleagues. You will know them, they are the same lot who gave Boris a thumping majority in December. They see all these idiots protesting, kneeling and just roll their eyes and carry on

You and your friends aren't the majority, silent or otherwise. You didn't give Boris a majority, the First-Past-The-Post system did.

If the UK were a real democracy, like Germany, the Tories would have 43.6% of the seats in Parliament; not a majority.

The current government, from the leader downwards, are utterly out of their depth; for the simple reason that they are the dregs of what the Tory Party has to offer.

Most of their more capable politicians were purged to ensure Brexit purity. For that one issue, it's maybe ok for getting a deal - though, more likely, not. Either way, they're singing from the same hymn sheet; united, in a way the UK just isn't.

However, for the world-changing event of Covid-19, the current Cabinet have been, for the most part, fucking useless.

"Corbyn would have been worse", "You couldn't do any better". Feel free to squeal that whataboutery shite at me all you like. It's not relevant.

YOUR idols are in charge and if today's Daily Mail can get stuck into them for their many inadequacies, then so can the majority of us who did not vote for them.

When you defend Boris and his Government you are telling everyone you're happy to settle for incompetent mediocrity. "

We had a referendum on changing the electoral system in 2011 and it was overwhelmingly rejected by the electorate.

Boris is going to be PM for another 9 glorious years

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Can we add keeping Dominic "nice but dim" Raab as Foreign Secretary to Johnson's list of crimes please? Thanks.

Totally agree with Raab today he said what most of us are thinking. As for the original question, yes, hes a fantastic PM.

‘Most of us’? Do you mean the knuckle draggers who were ‘protecting ‘ statues last weekend?

Nope I mean the silent majority like my freinds, neighbours and colleagues. You will know them, they are the same lot who gave Boris a thumping majority in December. They see all these idiots protesting, kneeling and just roll their eyes and carry on

Ye your part of the silent majority

Silent as Boris sells out UK to huge US corporate food producers with their septic drug filled meat that Europeans wouldn't allow be fed dogs

Yum yum

Thanks Boris

After that gem of a deal it's on to selling out NHS to big US corporate pharma Inc

What do you and your silent friends say to that?

Well as a food industry professional for 15 years Im more concerned about Polish Beef... that stuff will kill you

Selling the nhs yawn

So yes we're all very happy, just imagine the hell if Jeremy Corbyn and Diane Abbot were in charge (thankfully because of the silent majority they never will be). "

Boris is appalling, he will get his no deal Brexit and then leave the job to reap in the financial gains . Just look at his history, but you knew what you were voting for. As for Corbyn, he may or may not have been a disaster, but we will never know for sure , however Boris has proved he isn’t up to the job

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Nope I mean the silent majority like my freinds, neighbours and colleagues. You will know them, they are the same lot who gave Boris a thumping majority in December. They see all these idiots protesting, kneeling and just roll their eyes and carry on

You and your friends aren't the majority, silent or otherwise. You didn't give Boris a majority, the First-Past-The-Post system did.

If the UK were a real democracy, like Germany, the Tories would have 43.6% of the seats in Parliament; not a majority.

The current government, from the leader downwards, are utterly out of their depth; for the simple reason that they are the dregs of what the Tory Party has to offer.

Most of their more capable politicians were purged to ensure Brexit purity. For that one issue, it's maybe ok for getting a deal - though, more likely, not. Either way, they're singing from the same hymn sheet; united, in a way the UK just isn't.

However, for the world-changing event of Covid-19, the current Cabinet have been, for the most part, fucking useless.

"Corbyn would have been worse", "You couldn't do any better". Feel free to squeal that whataboutery shite at me all you like. It's not relevant.

YOUR idols are in charge and if today's Daily Mail can get stuck into them for their many inadequacies, then so can the majority of us who did not vote for them.

When you defend Boris and his Government you are telling everyone you're happy to settle for incompetent mediocrity.

We had a referendum on changing the electoral system in 2011 and it was overwhelmingly rejected by the electorate.

Boris is going to be PM for another 9 glorious years "

Not a chance, he won’t last until 2024, there isn’t enough money to be made whilst being the PM, your deluded

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By *al2001Man  over a year ago

kildare


"Nope I mean the silent majority like my freinds, neighbours and colleagues. You will know them, they are the same lot who gave Boris a thumping majority in December. They see all these idiots protesting, kneeling and just roll their eyes and carry on

You and your friends aren't the majority, silent or otherwise. You didn't give Boris a majority, the First-Past-The-Post system did.

If the UK were a real democracy, like Germany, the Tories would have 43.6% of the seats in Parliament; not a majority.

The current government, from the leader downwards, are utterly out of their depth; for the simple reason that they are the dregs of what the Tory Party has to offer.

Most of their more capable politicians were purged to ensure Brexit purity. For that one issue, it's maybe ok for getting a deal - though, more likely, not. Either way, they're singing from the same hymn sheet; united, in a way the UK just isn't.

However, for the world-changing event of Covid-19, the current Cabinet have been, for the most part, fucking useless.

"Corbyn would have been worse", "You couldn't do any better". Feel free to squeal that whataboutery shite at me all you like. It's not relevant.

YOUR idols are in charge and if today's Daily Mail can get stuck into them for their many inadequacies, then so can the majority of us who did not vote for them.

When you defend Boris and his Government you are telling everyone you're happy to settle for incompetent mediocrity.

We had a referendum on changing the electoral system in 2011 and it was overwhelmingly rejected by the electorate.

Boris is going to be PM for another 9 glorious years "

9 glorious years of me and everyone else taking the piss out of Boris's unending stream of fuckups

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By *ik MMan  over a year ago

Lancashire


"Nope I mean the silent majority like my freinds, neighbours and colleagues. You will know them, they are the same lot who gave Boris a thumping majority in December. They see all these idiots protesting, kneeling and just roll their eyes and carry on

You and your friends aren't the majority, silent or otherwise. You didn't give Boris a majority, the First-Past-The-Post system did.

If the UK were a real democracy, like Germany, the Tories would have 43.6% of the seats in Parliament; not a majority.

The current government, from the leader downwards, are utterly out of their depth; for the simple reason that they are the dregs of what the Tory Party has to offer.

Most of their more capable politicians were purged to ensure Brexit purity. For that one issue, it's maybe ok for getting a deal - though, more likely, not. Either way, they're singing from the same hymn sheet; united, in a way the UK just isn't.

However, for the world-changing event of Covid-19, the current Cabinet have been, for the most part, fucking useless.

"Corbyn would have been worse", "You couldn't do any better". Feel free to squeal that whataboutery shite at me all you like. It's not relevant.

YOUR idols are in charge and if today's Daily Mail can get stuck into them for their many inadequacies, then so can the majority of us who did not vote for them.

When you defend Boris and his Government you are telling everyone you're happy to settle for incompetent mediocrity. "

You do realise that if your fix all system of PR had been in place then in 2015 UKIP would have won 83 seats.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Nope I mean the silent majority like my freinds, neighbours and colleagues. You will know them, they are the same lot who gave Boris a thumping majority in December. They see all these idiots protesting, kneeling and just roll their eyes and carry on

You and your friends aren't the majority, silent or otherwise. You didn't give Boris a majority, the First-Past-The-Post system did.

If the UK were a real democracy, like Germany, the Tories would have 43.6% of the seats in Parliament; not a majority.

The current government, from the leader downwards, are utterly out of their depth; for the simple reason that they are the dregs of what the Tory Party has to offer.

Most of their more capable politicians were purged to ensure Brexit purity. For that one issue, it's maybe ok for getting a deal - though, more likely, not. Either way, they're singing from the same hymn sheet; united, in a way the UK just isn't.

However, for the world-changing event of Covid-19, the current Cabinet have been, for the most part, fucking useless.

"Corbyn would have been worse", "You couldn't do any better". Feel free to squeal that whataboutery shite at me all you like. It's not relevant.

YOUR idols are in charge and if today's Daily Mail can get stuck into them for their many inadequacies, then so can the majority of us who did not vote for them.

When you defend Boris and his Government you are telling everyone you're happy to settle for incompetent mediocrity.

You do realise that if your fix all system of PR had been in place then in 2015 UKIP would have won 83 seats. "

How many would they have won in 2019

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By *ik MMan  over a year ago

Lancashire


"Nope I mean the silent majority like my freinds, neighbours and colleagues. You will know them, they are the same lot who gave Boris a thumping majority in December. They see all these idiots protesting, kneeling and just roll their eyes and carry on

You and your friends aren't the majority, silent or otherwise. You didn't give Boris a majority, the First-Past-The-Post system did.

If the UK were a real democracy, like Germany, the Tories would have 43.6% of the seats in Parliament; not a majority.

The current government, from the leader downwards, are utterly out of their depth; for the simple reason that they are the dregs of what the Tory Party has to offer.

Most of their more capable politicians were purged to ensure Brexit purity. For that one issue, it's maybe ok for getting a deal - though, more likely, not. Either way, they're singing from the same hymn sheet; united, in a way the UK just isn't.

However, for the world-changing event of Covid-19, the current Cabinet have been, for the most part, fucking useless.

"Corbyn would have been worse", "You couldn't do any better". Feel free to squeal that whataboutery shite at me all you like. It's not relevant.

YOUR idols are in charge and if today's Daily Mail can get stuck into them for their many inadequacies, then so can the majority of us who did not vote for them.

When you defend Boris and his Government you are telling everyone you're happy to settle for incompetent mediocrity.

You do realise that if your fix all system of PR had been in place then in 2015 UKIP would have won 83 seats.

How many would they have won in 2019 "

Probably none, because they were a different organisation by then but their 2015 effort would have seen Brexit through without delay. I’m merely pointing out that PR isn’t always all it’s made up to be...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Nope I mean the silent majority like my freinds, neighbours and colleagues. You will know them, they are the same lot who gave Boris a thumping majority in December. They see all these idiots protesting, kneeling and just roll their eyes and carry on

You and your friends aren't the majority, silent or otherwise. You didn't give Boris a majority, the First-Past-The-Post system did.

If the UK were a real democracy, like Germany, the Tories would have 43.6% of the seats in Parliament; not a majority.

The current government, from the leader downwards, are utterly out of their depth; for the simple reason that they are the dregs of what the Tory Party has to offer.

Most of their more capable politicians were purged to ensure Brexit purity. For that one issue, it's maybe ok for getting a deal - though, more likely, not. Either way, they're singing from the same hymn sheet; united, in a way the UK just isn't.

However, for the world-changing event of Covid-19, the current Cabinet have been, for the most part, fucking useless.

"Corbyn would have been worse", "You couldn't do any better". Feel free to squeal that whataboutery shite at me all you like. It's not relevant.

YOUR idols are in charge and if today's Daily Mail can get stuck into them for their many inadequacies, then so can the majority of us who did not vote for them.

When you defend Boris and his Government you are telling everyone you're happy to settle for incompetent mediocrity.

You do realise that if your fix all system of PR had been in place then in 2015 UKIP would have won 83 seats.

How many would they have won in 2019

Probably none, because they were a different organisation by then but their 2015 effort would have seen Brexit through without delay. I’m merely pointing out that PR isn’t always all it’s made up to be... "

PR isn’t perfect but IMO it’s better than what we have now, the fact UKIP would have won all

those seats in 2015 and zero in 2019 proves it works

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By *ice__bloke OP   Man  over a year ago

redcar

Germans ontop of it i meant " "

" They got testing out in the community and ontop of it, like WHO said - test everyone , test, test, test,to see where this killer fkn virus was. Months and months ago.

What we got was horse shit, donkey shit, bull shit - from our great leaders Boris and Cummings...

Even Greece had testing in place to get ontop " " of it - by the way Greece the bankrupt European country hmm - unlike us the richest and most technological ey Boris???

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool

He will be gone in a year.The penny is finally dropping he actually has to do some work.His handling of the crises has been cataclysmic and he is comically out of dept against an opponent who can string a coherent sentence together.

In 12 months time he will be trawling his memoirs around the states whilst the great British public can take knowledge in the fact they voted in the most inept pm in living memory.

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By *ireman28Man  over a year ago

Derbyshire Nottinghamshire

My w*nk sock could have done a better job!

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By *ister.mrMan  over a year ago

birmingham

Fuck me its friday nite ,still moaning about politics,what might of been,are we getting hard by calling tory voters idiots and looking to the future waiting for it all to come true,like you said it would,knock one off and give us all a rest aye .Just goin av a smoke ha ha

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"During and from the outbreak of this killer virus.

Has our leader Boris, been honest, trustworthy and transparent with us all ? ?

Is he a good leader for the UK ? ?

He was the best leader on offer at the last General Election "

Only cause his backers used him like the puppet he is, to get Brexit done.

The guy is responsible for 40,000 deaths, for not putting in to place decent control measures. I mean come on, the idiot got the virus himself.

Him and his party look after the people who back him, not the general public.

Even Screaming Lord Sutch would have done a better job than this idiot.

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By *L RogueMan  over a year ago

London

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By *L RogueMan  over a year ago

London


"Can we add keeping Dominic "nice but dim" Raab as Foreign Secretary to Johnson's list of crimes please? Thanks.

Totally agree with Raab today he said what most of us are thinking. As for the original question, yes, hes a fantastic PM.

‘Most of us’? Do you mean the knuckle draggers who were ‘protecting ‘ statues last weekend?

Nope I mean the silent majority like my freinds, neighbours and colleagues. You will know them, they are the same lot who gave Boris a thumping majority in December. They see all these idiots protesting, kneeling and just roll their eyes and carry on

Ye your part of the silent majority

Silent as Boris sells out UK to huge US corporate food producers with their septic drug filled meat that Europeans wouldn't allow be fed dogs

Yum yum

Thanks Boris

After that gem of a deal it's on to selling out NHS to big US corporate pharma Inc

What do you and your silent friends say to that?

Well as a food industry professional for 15 years Im more concerned about Polish Beef... that stuff will kill you

Selling the nhs yawn

So yes we're all very happy, just imagine the hell if Jeremy Corbyn and Diane Abbot were in charge (thankfully because of the silent majority they never will be).

Boris is appalling, he will get his no deal Brexit and then leave the job to reap in the financial gains . Just look at his history, but you knew what you were voting for. As for Corbyn, he may or may not have been a disaster, but we will never know for sure , however Boris has proved he isn’t up to the job "

It's not looking good, is it?

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By *ackal1Couple  over a year ago

Manchester

I think the constant being caught out lying is exposing the incompetence but also undermining any belief in his whole cabinet.

We were told testing is 20, 30, 40, then 100,000 per day then we discover they were Just testS available and included a good proportion of double tests for key workers so bullshit numbers.

We heard 1 Billion pieces of PPE had been delivered only to discover the number included buckets and mops and counting gloves individually not as a pair. That is just plain lying!!

Boris has gone from job to job as eventually he gets found out that it’s all bluster and rousing nonsense.

I am just sad he is our leader and I’m embarrassed about what he’s doing to our country.

I don’t elect a leader to do everything I want but I do expect him to do what is good for my country. He does what is good for himself and his backers.

Still no news on that Russia enquiry I see.

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By *ice__bloke OP   Man  over a year ago

redcar

MrMr

Dingbat this forum is for .. POLITICS

And yes the tory lying horse shit - donkey shit - bullshitters.

The PPE sham - Even included bottles of disinfectant, bleach, soap, cloths, toilet cleaner & individual gloves for cleaning toilets as the millions of items of PPE

This government is a beyond diabolical.

Boris is the puppet of Dom Cummings which is a scam in itself.

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By *ister.mrMan  over a year ago

birmingham

Ha ha nice bloke,politics yes a never ending argument from both sides,just thought you might want to chill on a friday night,have a rest from putting your opinion over and personally calling other disbelievers quite hurtfull names.I had a good nite didnt manage to come tho,so theres 2 loads in there.This is a swingers site ....yes

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By *ice__bloke OP   Man  over a year ago

redcar

Very True MrMR

yep everyone has there own opinions, Hope your saturday is going ok

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By *ice__bloke OP   Man  over a year ago

redcar

Wow what big feet you have lol

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By *ister.mrMan  over a year ago

birmingham

Ha you want see how big my dick is, 5'10" lol

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By *ice__bloke OP   Man  over a year ago

redcar

Its sunday, i wonder if our supreme leaders, bungling boris/cummings will be announcing another of his world beating speeches later hm ?

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By *eddy and legsCouple  over a year ago

the wetlands


"During and from the outbreak of this killer virus.

Has our leader Boris, been honest, trustworthy and transparent with us all ? ?

Is he a good leader for the UK ? ?"

As stated in another thread, a leader of a country who sanctions the outsourcing of it's passports to a foreign country whilst flying the brexit flag high is cuntemptible

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Somebody on here must have voted for the Party of which he is The leader......

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By *ice__bloke OP   Man  over a year ago

redcar

Remember the " world beating app " to cure us of the virus.

That got binned - well on PM Q's this lunchtime.

His latest lie was to claim no one has one working at all and no one has got ontop of the virus - by testing the population - in Boris bullshit bungling - speak what he means is -

We dont have live testing in the community in place, to find exactly pin point where this virus is - live community spread - like bankrupt Greece put in place - you mean boris - 9 weeks ago Greece did this and beat the virus. ........

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By *V-AliceTV/TS  over a year ago

Ayr


"Nope I mean the silent majority like my freinds, neighbours and colleagues. You will know them, they are the same lot who gave Boris a thumping majority in December. They see all these idiots protesting, kneeling and just roll their eyes and carry on

You and your friends aren't the majority, silent or otherwise. You didn't give Boris a majority, the First-Past-The-Post system did.

If the UK were a real democracy, like Germany, the Tories would have 43.6% of the seats in Parliament; not a majority.

The current government, from the leader downwards, are utterly out of their depth; for the simple reason that they are the dregs of what the Tory Party has to offer.

Most of their more capable politicians were purged to ensure Brexit purity. For that one issue, it's maybe ok for getting a deal - though, more likely, not. Either way, they're singing from the same hymn sheet; united, in a way the UK just isn't.

However, for the world-changing event of Covid-19, the current Cabinet have been, for the most part, fucking useless.

"Corbyn would have been worse", "You couldn't do any better". Feel free to squeal that whataboutery shite at me all you like. It's not relevant.

YOUR idols are in charge and if today's Daily Mail can get stuck into them for their many inadequacies, then so can the majority of us who did not vote for them.

When you defend Boris and his Government you are telling everyone you're happy to settle for incompetent mediocrity.

You do realise that if your fix all system of PR had been in place then in 2015 UKIP would have won 83 seats. "

Yes, I do. Not ideal at all but it would have been a true reflection of what the voting public wanted and much fairer. In 2015, the SNP took 56 seats on about half the UKIP vote. That's not democracy.

Those UKIP MPs would have been in opposition, of course. I suppose it's possible the Tories would have formed a coalition with them; they are both, like the DUP, on the right-wing-cunt spectrum, after all.

PR is a long way from being perfect - and the English did reject it once already - but it IS representative of votes cast. First-past-the-post just isn't. Which is why the UK is not really a democracy.

And anyone who thinks Boris is the man to unite the UK is kidding themselves; even half the voters in England can't stand him.

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By *exy7Man  over a year ago

Bristol

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By *exy7Man  over a year ago

Bristol

Asking the question, OP, is the same as answering it. The guy is incompetent, dishonest, lazy, doesn’t pay attention to detail, changes his mind more often than he changes underwear. He is also quite thick to be honest. Coming up with the odd sentence in Latin might impress white van drivers but not me. He’s probably. This buffoon is s as n embarrassment, a mini Trump. If Trump hadn’t set the bar so low, Boris would look even more like a jerk.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan  over a year ago

here

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan  over a year ago

here


"Asking the question, OP, is the same as answering it. The guy is incompetent, dishonest, lazy, doesn’t pay attention to detail, changes his mind more often than he changes underwear. He is also quite thick to be honest. Coming up with the odd sentence in Latin might impress white van drivers but not me. He’s probably. This buffoon is s as n embarrassment, a mini Trump. If Trump hadn’t set the bar so low, Boris would look even more like a jerk."

"The lady doth protest too much, methinks"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kPPyBLC5ddM

Boris kiss at the end cracks me up

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By *exy7Man  over a year ago

Bristol

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By *ice__bloke OP   Man  over a year ago

redcar

Asking the question, OP, is the same as answering it. The guy is incompetent, dishonest, lazy, doesn’t pay attention to detail, changes his mind more often than he changes underwear. He is also quite thick to be honest. Coming up with the odd sentence in Latin might impress white van drivers but not me. He’s probably. This buffoon is s as n embarrassment, a mini Trump. If Trump hadn’t set the bar so low, Boris would look even more like a jerk.

TRUE as above /\

His pathetic performance at PM Q's is a joke - to think this man represents us ffs.

All he can do, which is the one good thing he thinks he is an expert on, is " giving a speech & reading from a single A4 piece of paper - written by DOM CUMMINGS " he thinks that is work - like in his toff debating days , when he was at Eton or whatever fkn uni he was at.

He is our clown - chosen leader.

N.B ALSO NOTE HE HAS NOT ONCE - CALLED TRUMP OUT FOR WHAT HE IS. To represent what us the british public think of trump. ? ?

Beyond a joke really.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Asking the question, OP, is the same as answering it. The guy is incompetent, dishonest, lazy, doesn’t pay attention to detail, changes his mind more often than he changes underwear. He is also quite thick to be honest. Coming up with the odd sentence in Latin might impress white van drivers but not me. He’s probably. This buffoon is s as n embarrassment, a mini Trump. If Trump hadn’t set the bar so low, Boris would look even more like a jerk.

"The lady doth protest too much, methinks"

"

Now, you seem an intelligent bloke and I think you know exactly what Boris is. I'm just wondering at what point you will admit it??

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By *ice__bloke OP   Man  over a year ago

redcar

Boris is our supreme .. cough .. cough

" Our Leader "

" The special one "

oh no that was another toss pot.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Dominic Cummings hasn't been very good, even with his bojo puppet

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By *ice__bloke OP   Man  over a year ago

redcar

Dom cummings's hand is so far up Boris's ars, he can even ruffle his hair for him.

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By *V-AliceTV/TS  over a year ago

Ayr


"Dom cummings's hand is so far up Boris's ars, he can even ruffle his hair for him.

"

How does he get him to do those press-ups?

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By *ireman28Man  over a year ago

Derbyshire Nottinghamshire

Absolute worst leader Britain has ever had. Over 40000 dead. He has blood on his hands.

Work shy, moronic pig f*ck!

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury


"Absolute worst leader Britain has ever had. Over 40000 dead. He has blood on his hands.

Work shy, moronic pig f*ck!"

Id have liked to have seen labour's reason for ignoring medical advice.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury

Let's face it, a Tory prime minister could cure cancer and you lot would still hate them! it's pathetic.

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"Let's face it, a Tory prime minister could cure cancer and you lot would still hate them! it's pathetic."

And he could preside over The worst death rate in Europe and people will still sing his praises

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury


"Let's face it, a Tory prime minister could cure cancer and you lot would still hate them! it's pathetic.

And he could preside over The worst death rate in Europe and people will still sing his praises"

You might as well blame him for the tide going in and out. Unless you have examples where Boris made decisions without listening to expert advice first?

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"Let's face it, a Tory prime minister could cure cancer and you lot would still hate them! it's pathetic.

And he could preside over The worst death rate in Europe and people will still sing his praises

You might as well blame him for the tide going in and out. Unless you have examples where Boris made decisions without listening to expert advice first?"

Well I suppose he would have to attend meetings where said experts would be in attendance for that to happen 1st I suppose?

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By *ostafunMan  over a year ago

near ipswich

We will see after his 5 years,i really dont think you can judge until we see how we come out of this crisis and brexit i have high hopes.

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By *estivalMan  over a year ago

borehamwood


"Absolute worst leader Britain has ever had. Over 40000 dead. He has blood on his hands.

Work shy, moronic pig f*ck!"

nah that would be saint tony. 100,00s dead iraqis hudreds of dead british troops all based on lies so tony could appear statesman like.and then gets given the job as peace envoy to the midfle east.you couldnt write that shit

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"Absolute worst leader Britain has ever had. Over 40000 dead. He has blood on his hands.

Work shy, moronic pig f*ck!

nah that would be saint tony. 100,00s dead iraqis hudreds of dead british troops all based on lies so tony could appear statesman like.and then gets given the job as peace envoy to the midfle east.you couldnt write that shit"

Does anyone actually call him a saint?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Boris "Burger King" Johnson.

It speaks for itself.

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By *ice__bloke OP   Man  over a year ago

redcar

Yes if forgot about dunce Boris - when our pandemic started he said

" ive been to visit corona patients and have shook hands with all of them "

This man is an insult to a clown

When the USA had 1000+ deaths a day their new cases were 30-35,000 a day

With lockdowns eased US new cases in last week have been 40k plus a day, 47K yesterday alone and now their retracting on easing lockdowns

Crowded beaches and pubs open next week UK can look forward to mirroring USA and we will be back on lockdown by September.

Thank you Boris ‘ I visited a hospital ward of covid patients and shook hands with everyone’ before catching it himself.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury


"Let's face it, a Tory prime minister could cure cancer and you lot would still hate them! it's pathetic.

And he could preside over The worst death rate in Europe and people will still sing his praises

You might as well blame him for the tide going in and out. Unless you have examples where Boris made decisions without listening to expert advice first?

Well I suppose he would have to attend meetings where said experts would be in attendance for that to happen 1st I suppose?"

While he had Corona i presume.

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"Let's face it, a Tory prime minister could cure cancer and you lot would still hate them! it's pathetic.

And he could preside over The worst death rate in Europe and people will still sing his praises

You might as well blame him for the tide going in and out. Unless you have examples where Boris made decisions without listening to expert advice first?

Well I suppose he would have to attend meetings where said experts would be in attendance for that to happen 1st I suppose?

While he had Corona i presume."

Before actually

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury

Whom are you comparing Boris's performance against btw? His tenure has hardly been "standard".

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"Whom are you comparing Boris's performance against btw? His tenure has hardly been "standard"."

Other leaders?

His embarrassing performances at pmq?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"We will see after his 5 years,i really dont think you can judge until we see how we come out of this crisis and brexit i have high hopes. "

He won’t do 5 years, your deluded if you think he will

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By *exy7Man  over a year ago

Bristol

What has Johnson achieved exactly so far apart from backtracking on the Irish border to pretend he got an agreement thanks to himself? Since then, it’s been waffling, weekly humiliations at PMQs, catching the virus, making u turn after u turn, receiving a lesson on human decency by a 20 year old football player, being humiliated by Cummings who buggered off to Durham without telling anyone and achieving the highest death toll in Europe? Have I missed anything really good?

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"What has Johnson achieved exactly so far apart from backtracking on the Irish border to pretend he got an agreement thanks to himself? Since then, it’s been waffling, weekly humiliations at PMQs, catching the virus, making u turn after u turn, receiving a lesson on human decency by a 20 year old football player, being humiliated by Cummings who buggered off to Durham without telling anyone and achieving the highest death toll in Europe? Have I missed anything really good? "

Claiming to take ownership of the pandemic 3 months after it started,overseeing corrupt deals behind the scenes,lying about ppe supplies?

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By *eddy and legsCouple  over a year ago

the wetlands

And dispite being a "democracy" all the citizens of the UK can do is sit at home watching the clown show on TV and waiting for the next cock up

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By *eddy and legsCouple  over a year ago

the wetlands

And now he's sacked the chief civ servant because Dominic didn't like him anymore.

His goodness is never ending

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By *exy7Man  over a year ago

Bristol


"What has Johnson achieved exactly so far apart from backtracking on the Irish border to pretend he got an agreement thanks to himself? Since then, it’s been waffling, weekly humiliations at PMQs, catching the virus, making u turn after u turn, receiving a lesson on human decency by a 20 year old football player, being humiliated by Cummings who buggered off to Durham without telling anyone and achieving the highest death toll in Europe? Have I missed anything really good?

Claiming to take ownership of the pandemic 3 months after it started,overseeing corrupt deals behind the scenes,lying about ppe supplies?"

True. I forgot a few highlights.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan  over a year ago

here


"And now he's sacked the chief civ servant because Dominic didn't like him anymore.

His goodness is never ending "

He’s being sacked in September ?

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By *eddy and legsCouple  over a year ago

the wetlands


"And now he's sacked the chief civ servant because Dominic didn't like him anymore.

His goodness is never ending

He’s being sacked in September ?"

Dunno just heard something on the 9 o'clock news about a fall out with Dominic Cummings

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan  over a year ago

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"And now he's sacked the chief civ servant because Dominic didn't like him anymore.

His goodness is never ending

He’s being sacked in September ?

Dunno just heard something on the 9 o'clock news about a fall out with Dominic Cummings"

It was mentioned earlier today there would be an announcement from Sedwill at some point ... from your post I took it he had been ceremonially frog marched out the back door of No.10 but headline mentions, “ The UK's top civil servant, Sir Mark Sedwill, has confirmed he plans to stand down from the role in September.

In a letter to Boris Johnson, he said it was the right time to go as the government moved to the next phase of its coronavirus recovery plan.”

There is some shenanigans going on in the background of course.

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London


"And now he's sacked the chief civ servant because Dominic didn't like him anymore.

His goodness is never ending

He’s being sacked in September ?

Dunno just heard something on the 9 o'clock news about a fall out with Dominic Cummings

It was mentioned earlier today there would be an announcement from Sedwill at some point ... from your post I took it he had been ceremonially frog marched out the back door of No.10 but headline mentions, “ The UK's top civil servant, Sir Mark Sedwill, has confirmed he plans to stand down from the role in September.

In a letter to Boris Johnson, he said it was the right time to go as the government moved to the next phase of its coronavirus recovery plan.”

There is some shenanigans going on in the background of course. "

“we have agreed I will stand down” tells you all that you need to know.

To be replaced by the chief Brexit negotiator in the middle of the Brexit negotiations.

Tells you the rest of the story.

Dominic shenanigan Cummings' "hard rain on the civil service".

The reward for working flat chat through a pandemic

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Virus was out on Aug of last year in uk so didn't act quick enough.

No consistent advice.. Even my child said we stay in but can go out.. Doesn't make sense.

No penalisation of Cummings.. Why not?

Didn't lock down soon enough or good enough.

Should have enlisted army for support n road stops should have stopped all flights/visitors.. We are an island.

Didn't follow his own advice n got the virus.. Think that sums it up

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