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"How do you know the Police have treated the public differently?"
They didn't, which was their point. They said he shouldn't have taken the day trip but they are not taking retrospective action against anyone, not just him. |
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That would be to treat him differently than the Public.
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Only in relation to retrospective action..
Had they stopped him his details would have been taken and told to go back to Durham..
Bet he wouldn't have said. 'but officer I am testing my eyesight'..  |
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I think this has been litigated to death now unless your name is piers Morgan,Kevin Maguire,or Ed Davey... NEWSFLASH, he's not going anywhere anytime soon.
Time to look forward to getting back to normal. |
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"Thats a good thing then.
Treating everyone as equal.
Or should he have been dealt with differently?
For what driving a blue car with a private plate? "
Nope. If it has been dealt with then what's the issue? |
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"I think this has been litigated to death now unless your name is piers Morgan,Kevin Maguire,or Ed Davey... NEWSFLASH, he's not going anywhere anytime soon.
Time to look forward to getting back to normal. "
This is 'the end' of the investigation so it should be properly reported.
Now they have done that and the news is properly reporting it too. |
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"Thats a good thing then.
Treating everyone as equal.
Or should he have been dealt with differently?
For what driving a blue car with a private plate?
Nope. If it has been dealt with then what's the issue?"
YOU asked the question!!! |
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"Thats a good thing then.
Treating everyone as equal.
Or should he have been dealt with differently?
For what driving a blue car with a private plate?
Nope. If it has been dealt with then what's the issue?
YOU asked the question!!!"
Your right I did. So the the that the matter done with.
I'm glad it was dealt with correctly.  |
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"Thats a good thing then.
Treating everyone as equal.
Or should he have been dealt with differently?
For what driving a blue car with a private plate?
Nope. If it has been dealt with then what's the issue?
YOU asked the question!!!
Your right I did. So the the that the matter done with.
I'm glad it was dealt with correctly. "
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"Read the article . . . Durham Police said that . . . Not me . . . So I think that they would know  "
see.... i am not sure why you are gloating, because durham police are saying there their opinion the original journey from london to durham didn't break the rules.... but the jolly to Barnard castle "to check his eyesight" did break the rules!
they are saying that if they had stopped him during the barnard castle trip they would have sent him back to durham immediately....
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"Read the article . . . Durham Police said that . . . Not me . . . So I think that they would know
see.... i am not sure why you are gloating, because durham police are saying there their opinion the original journey from london to durham didn't break the rules.... but the jolly to Barnard castle "to check his eyesight" did break the rules!
they are saying that if they had stopped him during the barnard castle trip they would have sent him back to durham immediately....
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I'm not 'gloating' at all. I said he should go.
But the end result is the Police Investigation. |
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By *D835Man
over a year ago
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"Read the article . . . Durham Police said that . . . Not me . . . So I think that they would know
see.... i am not sure why you are gloating, because durham police are saying there their opinion the original journey from london to durham didn't break the rules.... but the jolly to Barnard castle "to check his eyesight" did break the rules!
they are saying that if they had stopped him during the barnard castle trip they would have sent him back to durham immediately....
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And this also proves that he broke the rules when he went to Barnard Castle, something which he keeps denying and not apologising for.
As the adviser to the PM he should be upholding the law; not breaking rules. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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He could of easily put this to bed by apologising. I hope he does stay now, the longer he stays, the weaker Boris looks. Poor Boris, waited all his life for the job and been usurped by an unelected bureaucrat! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"it was all a lot of fuss of something that never risked anyone else becoming infected - unlike Tahir Ali - but he is only an MP so the MSM not interested"
Yeah, at least Ali apologies, I am sure Cummings will do the same and then me can ‘move on’
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"it was all a lot of fuss of something that never risked anyone else becoming infected - unlike Tahir Ali - but he is only an MP so the MSM not interested"
well durham police believed he was a risk otherwise they would not have said that if they had caught him during any time of his Barnard castle joyride, he would have been advised to go straight back to Durham
so lets concentrate on the statement the police gave......
he..... broke...... the...... rules
he can just admit that he did..... will he? |
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"it was all a lot of fuss of something that never risked anyone else becoming infected - unlike Tahir Ali - but he is only an MP so the MSM not interested
well durham police believed he was a risk otherwise they would not have said that if they had caught him during any time of his Barnard castle joyride, he would have been advised to go straight back to Durham
so lets concentrate on the statement the police gave......
he..... broke...... the...... rules
he can just admit that he did..... will he?"
Sad you didn't come back with the gloating remark - I posted about the finality of Police investigation the rest is just a debate and opinion. |
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over a year ago
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"Oh dear,labour pants on fire!
Video emerges of Liverpool's deputy mayor Lynnie Hinnigan of a party in her garden for her 50th birthday celebration. "
I hope she apologises, if not sack her . I am sure Cummings will do the same, then we can all ‘move on’ |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"it was all a lot of fuss of something that never risked anyone else becoming infected - unlike Tahir Ali - but he is only an MP so the MSM not interested
well durham police believed he was a risk otherwise they would not have said that if they had caught him during any time of his Barnard castle joyride, he would have been advised to go straight back to Durham
so lets concentrate on the statement the police gave......
he..... broke...... the...... rules
he can just admit that he did..... will he?
Sad you didn't come back with the gloating remark - I posted about the finality of Police investigation the rest is just a debate and opinion."
It’s not opinion, it’s fact, he broke the rules. I
am sure he has the integrity to apologise |
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"it was all a lot of fuss of something that never risked anyone else becoming infected - unlike Tahir Ali - but he is only an MP so the MSM not interested
well durham police believed he was a risk otherwise they would not have said that if they had caught him during any time of his Barnard castle joyride, he would have been advised to go straight back to Durham
so lets concentrate on the statement the police gave......
he..... broke...... the...... rules
he can just admit that he did..... will he?
Sad you didn't come back with the gloating remark - I posted about the finality of Police investigation the rest is just a debate and opinion.
It’s not opinion, it’s fact, he broke the rules. I
am sure he has the integrity to apologise "
I posted the FACTS as the Police saw them . . . I repeat I said he should go. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Time to move on ,rats arse .But a lot of people & certain media just love Stirring up sh@t then it will be heads up oh look a new piece of meat to chew on  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"it was all a lot of fuss of something that never risked anyone else becoming infected - unlike Tahir Ali - but he is only an MP so the MSM not interested
well durham police believed he was a risk otherwise they would not have said that if they had caught him during any time of his Barnard castle joyride, he would have been advised to go straight back to Durham
so lets concentrate on the statement the police gave......
he..... broke...... the...... rules
he can just admit that he did..... will he?
Sad you didn't come back with the gloating remark - I posted about the finality of Police investigation the rest is just a debate and opinion.
It’s not opinion, it’s fact, he broke the rules. I
am sure he has the integrity to apologise
I posted the FACTS as the Police saw them . . . I repeat I said he should go."
I don’t think he should go, I think an apology and an admittance of what he has done is wrong will
suffice. Keep him where he is |
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By *ab jamesMan
over a year ago
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"Oh dear,labour pants on fire!
Video emerges of Liverpool's deputy mayor Lynnie Hinnigan of a party in her garden for her 50th birthday celebration. "
It's ok. It wasn't a proper party. She was just checking if her garden would be big enough for for a party after the lockdown |
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By *ikilovesCCouple
over a year ago
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"Oh dear,labour pants on fire!
Video emerges of Liverpool's deputy mayor Lynnie Hinnigan of a party in her garden for her 50th birthday celebration. "
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If true then she's a dick and as he's a dick too they should do the decent thing and fall upon their sword like anyone with any decency would do and restore a bit of confidence to this messed up shambles |
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By *etsomeMan
over a year ago
birmingham |
"it was all a lot of fuss of something that never risked anyone else becoming infected - unlike Tahir Ali - but he is only an MP so the MSM not interested
Yeah, at least Ali apologies, I am sure Cummings will do the same and then me can ‘move on’
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how many people did Ali potentially come into contact with compared to Cummings. And the first rule when it comes to the left - never apologise - they won't accept it, it will just make them more rabid |
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By * and BCouple
over a year ago
Durham |
He is the reason why we all must keep OURSELVES safe, well him and thousands of others who have never took the lockdown serious. At the end of the day we can say 'that's it we are doing this because of him or them' but that's not looking after oneself or respecting others. Personally we will stay at Home as much as we can and stay safe. There's only one person going to look after you and that's you. Staying away from all the idiots that can't understand social distancing is a daily battle. Dominic Cummings is just another one amongst the idiots all over the country who thinks, fuck it, no one tells me what to do  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"@fabtastic
She ain't going to apologise, she's already thrown her daughter under the bus.
Sack her then. When is Cummings going to apologise?
Ask Cummings lol"
I think I will leave that to others, I am sure he will do the decent thing and apologies |
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By *etsomeMan
over a year ago
birmingham |
"He is the reason why we all must keep OURSELVES safe, well him and thousands of others who have never took the lockdown serious. At the end of the day we can say 'that's it we are doing this because of him or them' but that's not looking after oneself or respecting others. Personally we will stay at Home as much as we can and stay safe. There's only one person going to look after you and that's you. Staying away from all the idiots that can't understand social distancing is a daily battle. Dominic Cummings is just another one amongst the idiots all over the country who thinks, fuck it, no one tells me what to do "
staying at home will devestate the economy |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"@fabtastic
In the police report,I think the word you're looking for is "might"
Don't be like piers Morgan "
police have to put in the word "might" because they don't determine Guilt... the courts do!.....
if he believes he did not breach the rules... and it was to be taken further (which the police have said they aren't here) then its up to a court to decide....
interesting thing here is this... if durham police in their opinion did not breach the rules, they would say so...
in the opinion of durham police..... the trip from london to durham did not breach the rules... they say so!!!!
in the opinion of Durham police... during the "barnard castle jolly" he did breach the rules!!! they say if they had stopped him during that drive, he would have advised to go straight back to durham....
so if the defence of cummings is "might".... i wouldn't use it!
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By * and BCouple
over a year ago
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"He is the reason why we all must keep OURSELVES safe, well him and thousands of others who have never took the lockdown serious. At the end of the day we can say 'that's it we are doing this because of him or them' but that's not looking after oneself or respecting others. Personally we will stay at Home as much as we can and stay safe. There's only one person going to look after you and that's you. Staying away from all the idiots that can't understand social distancing is a daily battle. Dominic Cummings is just another one amongst the idiots all over the country who thinks, fuck it, no one tells me what to do
staying at home will devestate the economy"
Didn't say for ever, just till they get a grip of the virus. None of us know whether there'll be another spike. As for the economy we still shopping and doing our on line purchases. Health first for us, economy second |
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"it was all a lot of fuss of something that never risked anyone else becoming infected - unlike Tahir Ali - but he is only an MP so the MSM not interested
well durham police believed he was a risk otherwise they would not have said that if they had caught him during any time of his Barnard castle joyride, he would have been advised to go straight back to Durham
so lets concentrate on the statement the police gave......
he..... broke...... the...... rules
he can just admit that he did..... will he?"
Yes he broke the rules on that so called eye test trip so should be dealt with like anyone else. I am not sure why the police said they would have just spoken to him and turned him back. Why not issue a fine at the same time?
Either way a fine or ticking off is all anyone else would have faced no more no less |
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By *exy7Man
over a year ago
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The scandal here is the blatant lie and the police can not punish him for this. The Tory fans and the rags that support this pathetic gvt will tell us: you see, the police didn’t condemn him etc...
Personally, I don’t give a toss about the police but Cummings is clearly lying about the whole saga. Breaching the lockdown is one thing, taking the piss and not apologising is another. |
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Oh dear,photo emerges of Tony blair's attack dog Alistair Campbell hugging his pal during lockdown, I could swear he was on Vine this morning going off on one about Dominic Cummings, the hits keep coming |
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@fabtastic
Yeah, I don't think you will find any CPS desisions giving the green light to charge, if the police submitted evidence that "said person, might have broken the law"
Wouldn't even get anywhere near a court. |
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"@fabtastic
Yeah, I don't think you will find any CPS desisions giving the green light to charge, if the police submitted evidence that "said person, might have broken the law"
Wouldn't even get anywhere near a court. "
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"Oh dear,labour pants on fire!
Video emerges of Liverpool's deputy mayor Lynnie Hinnigan of a party in her garden for her 50th birthday celebration. "
This isn't a partisan issue though is it, despite your attempts at whataboutary, and just as many Conservative voters have condemned Cummings for his actions as anyone else.
Almost everyone, whatever their political persuasion, stuck to the rules imposed on society by the Government, and many have made far greater sacrifices than Cummings ever will.
If anyone, whatever their party or position, behaved in the manner that Cummings has, then they should resign or be sacked too. Unfortunately for Johnson, it was his chief spad who decided that the rules don't apply to him, and put the government's entire lockdown exit strategy at risk with his actions.
Don't for one minute think that Johnson would do this for anyone else either. His lamentable behaviour over this whole episode shows just how dependent he is on Cummings for ideas and strategies. The country is being 'led' by a zombie prime minister, with the real power in the hands of an unelected bureaucrat, and in no way should that be acceptable to anyone.
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By *etsomeMan
over a year ago
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"Oh dear,photo emerges of Tony blair's attack dog Alistair Campbell hugging his pal during lockdown, I could swear he was on Vine this morning going off on one about Dominic Cummings, the hits keep coming "
Don't expect a guy with the blood of hundreds of thousands of people on his hands not to be a hypocrite
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"@fabtastic
Yeah, I don't think you will find any CPS desisions giving the green light to charge, if the police submitted evidence that "said person, might have broken the law"
Wouldn't even get anywhere near a court. "
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Given that Dom is the most powerful person in the country now, it is not unreasonable to set higher standards than Joe Public. Any one of uswould have been ‘herded’ back home from Barnard Castle by the Police if stopped (if we’d used his excuse, we’d have been arrested!)
But he didn’t have to be there. He never had to leave London in the first place, he had all the support he needed there. He chose to ignore that and drive to Durham. None of us had this option, people who’s parents or children died, did not have this option.
He should have been fired by BJ, but he doesn’t have the balls to do it...  |
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He did however admit to driving with impared vission, which is it's self an offence
me thinks that number 10 leaned on the police a little bit to make it go away |
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"The political hate on this swinging site amazes me,it always comes down to hating tories,shit government etc,its been going on since lockdown lets hope its over soon and back to swinging "
yep there's been no attacking of Labour party members on here at all.  |
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"The political hate on this swinging site amazes me,it always comes down to hating tories,shit government etc,its been going on since lockdown lets hope its over soon and back to swinging
yep there's been no attacking of Labour party members on here at all. "
Absolutely amazing isn’t it |
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"The political hate on this swinging site amazes me,it always comes down to hating tories,shit government etc,its been going on since lockdown lets hope its over soon and back to swinging
yep there's been no attacking of Labour party members on here at all. "
Stephen kinnock has been mentioned several times and was warned by the police.
Plus labour didnt help come up with the rules,completely ignore them and show not 1 iota of remorse or contrition. |
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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago
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"The political hate on this swinging site amazes me,it always comes down to hating tories,shit government etc,its been going on since lockdown lets hope its over soon and back to swinging "
Now that’s where you’re wrong. Of course it doesn’t come down to hating Tories.
The reason people are angry about it is that the senior advisor to the Government broke the rules. So did his wife actually. They also put their child at risk. Durham police are looking at it from a police perspective but have stated that they are not looking at the ‘Stay at home’ message in the guidelines. Two different things.
It just happens to be a Tory government but to say that people are upset about it because they are Tory just dismisses the suffering and sacrifices by others that he failed to make. |
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By *abs..Woman
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"The political hate on this swinging site amazes me,it always comes down to hating tories,shit government etc,its been going on since lockdown lets hope its over soon and back to swinging
yep there's been no attacking of Labour party members on here at all. "
That’s incorrect. If you do a little search you may see some other comments. Unfortunately though there is no getting away from the fact that Cummings is an advisor to a government that happens to be Tory and he broke the rules. He has to be above reproach in his job. Made worse of course because Boris appears to condone it and he also happens to be Tory. This isn’t party related in my view. It’s just outrageous to be able to be in his position and do what he has done. |
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By *abs..Woman
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"He did however admit to driving with impared vission, which is it's self an offence
me thinks that number 10 leaned on the police a little bit to make it go away "
The message was stay at home. The childcare message was for ‘exceptional circumstances’. He didn’t have exceptional circumstances. His wife had vomited. He went back to work two hours later. Stay out, get a test, ask for help if needed. So he broke a few rule there. |
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By *abs..Woman
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"Given that Dom is the most powerful person in the country now, it is not unreasonable to set higher standards than Joe Public. Any one of uswould have been ‘herded’ back home from Barnard Castle by the Police if stopped (if we’d used his excuse, we’d have been arrested!)
But he didn’t have to be there. He never had to leave London in the first place, he had all the support he needed there. He chose to ignore that and drive to Durham. None of us had this option, people who’s parents or children died, did not have this option.
He should have been fired by BJ, but he doesn’t have the balls to do it... "
Exactly right. His initial reason was flawed and so it went on into the ridiculous tale that he concocted. |
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By *abs..Woman
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"Oh dear,labour pants on fire!
Video emerges of Liverpool's deputy mayor Lynnie Hinnigan of a party in her garden for her 50th birthday celebration.
This isn't a partisan issue though is it, despite your attempts at whataboutary, and just as many Conservative voters have condemned Cummings for his actions as anyone else.
Almost everyone, whatever their political persuasion, stuck to the rules imposed on society by the Government, and many have made far greater sacrifices than Cummings ever will.
If anyone, whatever their party or position, behaved in the manner that Cummings has, then they should resign or be sacked too. Unfortunately for Johnson, it was his chief spad who decided that the rules don't apply to him, and put the government's entire lockdown exit strategy at risk with his actions.
Don't for one minute think that Johnson would do this for anyone else either. His lamentable behaviour over this whole episode shows just how dependent he is on Cummings for ideas and strategies. The country is being 'led' by a zombie prime minister, with the real power in the hands of an unelected bureaucrat, and in no way should that be acceptable to anyone.
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I agree with you. |
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"The political hate on this swinging site amazes me,it always comes down to hating tories,shit government etc,its been going on since lockdown lets hope its over soon and back to swinging
yep there's been no attacking of Labour party members on here at all.
That’s incorrect. If you do a little search you may see some other comments. Unfortunately though there is no getting away from the fact that Cummings is an advisor to a government that happens to be Tory and he broke the rules. He has to be above reproach in his job. Made worse of course because Boris appears to condone it and he also happens to be Tory. This isn’t party related in my view. It’s just outrageous to be able to be in his position and do what he has done. "
Obviously my cunning sarcasm fooled you. |
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"Given that Dom is the most powerful person in the country now, it is not unreasonable to set higher standards than Joe Public. Any one of uswould have been ‘herded’ back home from Barnard Castle by the Police if stopped (if we’d used his excuse, we’d have been arrested!)
But he didn’t have to be there. He never had to leave London in the first place, he had all the support he needed there. He chose to ignore that and drive to Durham. None of us had this option, people who’s parents or children died, did not have this option.
He should have been fired by BJ, but he doesn’t have the balls to do it... "
I thought the police have agreed the original trip to Durham was within the rules so for that part he has not done wrong. The so called eye test trip was wrong and police confirmed that had they stopped him they would have sent him back. I think he should have been fined retrospectively. The law and punishment should be the same for everyone regardless of position. |
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"He did however admit to driving with impared vission, which is it's self an offence
me thinks that number 10 leaned on the police a little bit to make it go away
The message was stay at home. The childcare message was for ‘exceptional circumstances’. He didn’t have exceptional circumstances. His wife had vomited. He went back to work two hours later. Stay out, get a test, ask for help if needed. So he broke a few rule there. "
Agreed, the guy is taking the piss out of all of us. He could have stayed in London, he could have relied on friends or even the Govt to make sure he had a Waitrose or Abel & Cole Food Boxes. He did not have a crisis. He should be fired for dereliction of duty - his boss was ill, he is supposedly important & he fucked off to his parents estate ( not sink estate, but posh estate with land!) He is a joke! |
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"He did however admit to driving with impared vission, which is it's self an offence
me thinks that number 10 leaned on the police a little bit to make it go away
The message was stay at home. The childcare message was for ‘exceptional circumstances’. He didn’t have exceptional circumstances. His wife had vomited. He went back to work two hours later. Stay out, get a test, ask for help if needed. So he broke a few rule there.
Agreed, the guy is taking the piss out of all of us. He could have stayed in London, he could have relied on friends or even the Govt to make sure he had a Waitrose or Abel & Cole Food Boxes. He did not have a crisis. He should be fired for dereliction of duty - his boss was ill, he is supposedly important & he fucked off to his parents estate ( not sink estate, but posh estate with land!) He is a joke! "
Great sack everyone that's flouted the rules |
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"He did however admit to driving with impared vission, which is it's self an offence
me thinks that number 10 leaned on the police a little bit to make it go away
The message was stay at home. The childcare message was for ‘exceptional circumstances’. He didn’t have exceptional circumstances. His wife had vomited. He went back to work two hours later. Stay out, get a test, ask for help if needed. So he broke a few rule there.
Agreed, the guy is taking the piss out of all of us. He could have stayed in London, he could have relied on friends or even the Govt to make sure he had a Waitrose or Abel & Cole Food Boxes. He did not have a crisis. He should be fired for dereliction of duty - his boss was ill, he is supposedly important & he fucked off to his parents estate ( not sink estate, but posh estate with land!) He is a joke!
Great sack everyone that's flouted the rules"
Do all of them make the rules as well then? Don’t be fascile, he knew the rules, he screwed up, he should go. |
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"He did however admit to driving with impared vission, which is it's self an offence
me thinks that number 10 leaned on the police a little bit to make it go away
The message was stay at home. The childcare message was for ‘exceptional circumstances’. He didn’t have exceptional circumstances. His wife had vomited. He went back to work two hours later. Stay out, get a test, ask for help if needed. So he broke a few rule there.
Agreed, the guy is taking the piss out of all of us. He could have stayed in London, he could have relied on friends or even the Govt to make sure he had a Waitrose or Abel & Cole Food Boxes. He did not have a crisis. He should be fired for dereliction of duty - his boss was ill, he is supposedly important & he fucked off to his parents estate ( not sink estate, but posh estate with land!) He is a joke!
Great sack everyone that's flouted the rules
Do all of them make the rules as well then? Don’t be fascile, he knew the rules, he screwed up, he should go."
Unless you really do want different rules for different people he can stay. I agree he should have resigned but there is no law forcing a sacking. If there was many would have been sacked by now. He maybe hypocritical but that's not illegal.
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"He did however admit to driving with impared vission, which is it's self an offence
me thinks that number 10 leaned on the police a little bit to make it go away
The message was stay at home. The childcare message was for ‘exceptional circumstances’. He didn’t have exceptional circumstances. His wife had vomited. He went back to work two hours later. Stay out, get a test, ask for help if needed. So he broke a few rule there.
Agreed, the guy is taking the piss out of all of us. He could have stayed in London, he could have relied on friends or even the Govt to make sure he had a Waitrose or Abel & Cole Food Boxes. He did not have a crisis. He should be fired for dereliction of duty - his boss was ill, he is supposedly important & he fucked off to his parents estate ( not sink estate, but posh estate with land!) He is a joke!
Great sack everyone that's flouted the rules
Do all of them make the rules as well then? Don’t be fascile, he knew the rules, he screwed up, he should go.
Unless you really do want different rules for different people he can stay. I agree he should have resigned but there is no law forcing a sacking. If there was many would have been sacked by now. He maybe hypocritical but that's not illegal.
Looking at another thread its now being reported those that reported him admitting they made it up"
Fact Check - one person made it up. The rest of the events were factually correct. They were the ones that the Mirror/Guardian were asking Cummings and the Govt about. He did everything the press said, including breaking the law in London twice. Hypocrisy isn’t even the half of it. He broke the law after going home to see his ill wife - should have ‘Stayed at Home’ self isolating for 14 days, he then went home, thought he had Covid, so drove to Durham - broke the law as he should have ‘Stayed at Home’. Then in Durham his child gets ill, goes to hospital, no taxi’s to get home from the hospital, so ‘doggo’ Cummings drives to the Hospital (whilst he is comotose with Covid according to his wife, writing in the Spectator), breaking the law again ‘Stayed at 2nd Home’, then he breaks the law again by driving to Barnard Castle. As Ian Hislop put is on Have I Got News for You, you can’t make this stuff up. Cummings lied, he broke the Law and just because he has all the dirt on BJ he is untouchable. Britain is becoming a very much darker place these days. |
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"He did however admit to driving with impared vission, which is it's self an offence
me thinks that number 10 leaned on the police a little bit to make it go away
The message was stay at home. The childcare message was for ‘exceptional circumstances’. He didn’t have exceptional circumstances. His wife had vomited. He went back to work two hours later. Stay out, get a test, ask for help if needed. So he broke a few rule there.
Agreed, the guy is taking the piss out of all of us. He could have stayed in London, he could have relied on friends or even the Govt to make sure he had a Waitrose or Abel & Cole Food Boxes. He did not have a crisis. He should be fired for dereliction of duty - his boss was ill, he is supposedly important & he fucked off to his parents estate ( not sink estate, but posh estate with land!) He is a joke!
Great sack everyone that's flouted the rules
Do all of them make the rules as well then? Don’t be fascile, he knew the rules, he screwed up, he should go.
Unless you really do want different rules for different people he can stay. I agree he should have resigned but there is no law forcing a sacking. If there was many would have been sacked by now. He maybe hypocritical but that's not illegal.
Looking at another thread its now being reported those that reported him admitting they made it up
Fact Check - one person made it up. The rest of the events were factually correct. They were the ones that the Mirror/Guardian were asking Cummings and the Govt about. He did everything the press said, including breaking the law in London twice. Hypocrisy isn’t even the half of it. He broke the law after going home to see his ill wife - should have ‘Stayed at Home’ self isolating for 14 days, he then went home, thought he had Covid, so drove to Durham - broke the law as he should have ‘Stayed at Home’. Then in Durham his child gets ill, goes to hospital, no taxi’s to get home from the hospital, so ‘doggo’ Cummings drives to the Hospital (whilst he is comotose with Covid according to his wife, writing in the Spectator), breaking the law again ‘Stayed at 2nd Home’, then he breaks the law again by driving to Barnard Castle. As Ian Hislop put is on Have I Got News for You, you can’t make this stuff up. Cummings lied, he broke the Law and just because he has all the dirt on BJ he is untouchable. Britain is becoming a very much darker place these days."
So someone making things up is ok now then?
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Cummings made it up. If BJ didn’t give him cover he’d be arrested. One rule for them. He is guilty. One idiot making something up (to use the usual ‘alt.right’ response, probably a ‘false flag’ Tory trying to discredit the story )
Why can you not accept he was fundamentally wrong. As such he should go. |
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"Cummings made it up. If BJ didn’t give him cover he’d be arrested. One rule for them. He is guilty. One idiot making something up (to use the usual ‘alt.right’ response, probably a ‘false flag’ Tory trying to discredit the story )
Why can you not accept he was fundamentally wrong. As such he should go."
Yes I said before he should have resigned.
A person admitted making up stories.
The police investigated and confirm only the castle trip was outside the rules. All other events were within the rules. That's the police report not mine.
I believe all are equal in law and resulting punishment.
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The police was right to let cummings off, one man and his wife by the river hundreds might die. The police now saying they won't stop the protest in London, thousands not social distancing good call. |
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"The police was right to let cummings off, one man and his wife by the river hundreds might die. The police now saying they won't stop the protest in London, thousands not social distancing good call. "
Might think differently if your loved one was a nurse or doctor. I don't think empathy is your strong point though is it?? |
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"The police was right to let cummings off, one man and his wife by the river hundreds might die. The police now saying they won't stop the protest in London, thousands not social distancing good call.
Might think differently if your loved one was a nurse or doctor. I don't think empathy is your strong point though is it??"
Not sure what you are on about. I saying if police had arrested and fined cummings they would be fucked now because no one was even told off for not social distancing in London. |
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I'm saying (again) you only like protests at the moment because it flouts the lockdown. You were, I'd imagine, in utter uproar about ER protesting, 'closing down London, disgrace'. The protests yesterday, although for a just cause, should not really of happened in a pandemic. Extinction Rebellion shut down London, yesterday could lead to another spike and another lockdown, shutting down the economy. You don't seem to mind that though. Very odd position to adopt |
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"I'm saying (again) you only like protests at the moment because it flouts the lockdown. You were, I'd imagine, in utter uproar about ER protesting, 'closing down London, disgrace'. The protests yesterday, although for a just cause, should not really of happened in a pandemic. Extinction Rebellion shut down London, yesterday could lead to another spike and another lockdown, shutting down the economy. You don't seem to mind that though. Very odd position to adopt"
Total lost me? I will back any protest if it follows the law,if not shut it down. They stopped a protest social distancing no problem, but a anti rasist one can break the law and the police
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"I'm saying (again) you only like protests at the moment because it flouts the lockdown. You were, I'd imagine, in utter uproar about ER protesting, 'closing down London, disgrace'. The protests yesterday, although for a just cause, should not really of happened in a pandemic. Extinction Rebellion shut down London, yesterday could lead to another spike and another lockdown, shutting down the economy. You don't seem to mind that though. Very odd position to adoptTotal lost me? I will back any protest if it follows the law,if not shut it down. They stopped a protest social distancing no problem, but a anti rasist one can break the law and the police
Just watch. Double standards but not by me. "
I don't believe people should be protesting in a pandemic, any other time, yes.
How big was yesterdays protest compared to the other they broke up?? I'd suggest far bigger. Might be your answer....man power. |
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Oh, and before it gets mentioned. Yes Barry Gardiner was wrong. Should he go? Not till Cummings does. Nobody can be sacked now, Boris has lost his authority. |
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Everything that used to be a sackable offence in politics is no longer held to the same standard. Lying in office? Michael Howard sacked the current PM for that. Treason? Priti Patel got sacked for unauthorised negotiating with a foreign power. Adultery? Illegitimate children? We're back with Johnson again. Being found in contempt of Parliament? That'll be Cummings.
All honour and decency has been destroyed by this lot. Those of you that support them, please feel free to deny all of the above and deny the evidence of your own eyes and ears. |
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"Everything that used to be a sackable offence in politics is no longer held to the same standard. Lying in office? Michael Howard sacked the current PM for that. Treason? Priti Patel got sacked for unauthorised negotiating with a foreign power. Adultery? Illegitimate children? We're back with Johnson again. Being found in contempt of Parliament? That'll be Cummings.
All honour and decency has been destroyed by this lot. Those of you that support them, please feel free to deny all of the above and deny the evidence of your own eyes and ears."
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"Everything that used to be a sackable offence in politics is no longer held to the same standard. Lying in office? Michael Howard sacked the current PM for that. Treason? Priti Patel got sacked for unauthorised negotiating with a foreign power. Adultery? Illegitimate children? We're back with Johnson again. Being found in contempt of Parliament? That'll be Cummings.
All honour and decency has been destroyed by this lot. Those of you that support them, please feel free to deny all of the above and deny the evidence of your own eyes and ears."
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"Everything that used to be a sackable offence in politics is no longer held to the same standard. Lying in office? Michael Howard sacked the current PM for that. Treason? Priti Patel got sacked for unauthorised negotiating with a foreign power. Adultery? Illegitimate children? We're back with Johnson again. Being found in contempt of Parliament? That'll be Cummings.
All honour and decency has been destroyed by this lot. Those of you that support them, please feel free to deny all of the above and deny the evidence of your own eyes and ears. "
But regardless of your Political Persuasion . . .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_scandals_in_the_United_Kingdom
It's hardly new is it?
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"Everything that used to be a sackable offence in politics is no longer held to the same standard. Lying in office? Michael Howard sacked the current PM for that. Treason? Priti Patel got sacked for unauthorised negotiating with a foreign power. Adultery? Illegitimate children? We're back with Johnson again. Being found in contempt of Parliament? That'll be Cummings.
All honour and decency has been destroyed by this lot. Those of you that support them, please feel free to deny all of the above and deny the evidence of your own eyes and ears.
But regardless of your Political Persuasion . . .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_scandals_in_the_United_Kingdom
It's hardly new is it?
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No, it's definitely not new. However, in the past people tended to lose their jobs when caught. Now it seems to be a badge of honour. Short of a criminal offence that incurs a custodial sentence, Johnson can't discipline anyone because he's guilty of everything himself anyway. |
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"Everything that used to be a sackable offence in politics is no longer held to the same standard. Lying in office? Michael Howard sacked the current PM for that. Treason? Priti Patel got sacked for unauthorised negotiating with a foreign power. Adultery? Illegitimate children? We're back with Johnson again. Being found in contempt of Parliament? That'll be Cummings.
All honour and decency has been destroyed by this lot. Those of you that support them, please feel free to deny all of the above and deny the evidence of your own eyes and ears.
But regardless of your Political Persuasion . . .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_scandals_in_the_United_Kingdom
It's hardly new is it?
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So because it's "hardly new" we should just forget about public officials hypocrisy and/or corruption? That appears to be what you're advocating with this post anyway.
Or is it simply that you'd prefer that this administration was subject to no public scrutiny, whilst trying to give the impression of being neutral?
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All honour and decency has been destroyed by this lot. Those of you that support them, please feel free to deny all of the above and deny the evidence of your own eyes and ears.
But regardless of your Political Persuasion . . .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_scandals_in_the_United_Kingdom
It's hardly new is it?
So because it's "hardly new" we should just forget about public officials hypocrisy and/or corruption? That appears to be what you're advocating with this post anyway.
Or is it simply that you'd prefer that this administration was subject to no public scrutiny, whilst trying to give the impression of being neutral?
Surely not? "
Politicians lie - Period.
Every Government. Every Century. Every Decade.
Yet we only call it out in the 'very moment we find it' because that is when we feel our greatest anger. So later, we vote for a new bunch of liars, and for a while feel so much better that we got rid of the old set. Only then to find that they were no better than the last bunch.
And we repeat this cycle ad-in-finitum. Spirographically, around- and-around changing absolutely nothing at all.
Nobody hears. Nobody listens. The walls really are deaf to the calls of Mr and Mrs Random Citizen.
Look up a song by Leonard Cohen: Everybody Knows'.
To change anything at all, you have to become what you despise.
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"Everything that used to be a sackable offence in politics is no longer held to the same standard. Lying in office? Michael Howard sacked the current PM for that. Treason? Priti Patel got sacked for unauthorised negotiating with a foreign power. Adultery? Illegitimate children? We're back with Johnson again. Being found in contempt of Parliament? That'll be Cummings.
All honour and decency has been destroyed by this lot. Those of you that support them, please feel free to deny all of the above and deny the evidence of your own eyes and ears.
But regardless of your Political Persuasion . . .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_scandals_in_the_United_Kingdom
It's hardly new is it?
So because it's "hardly new" we should just forget about public officials hypocrisy and/or corruption? That appears to be what you're advocating with this post anyway.
Or is it simply that you'd prefer that this administration was subject to no public scrutiny, whilst trying to give the impression of being neutral?
Surely not?
Politicians lie - Period.
Every Government. Every Century. Every Decade.
Yet we only call it out in the 'very moment we find it' because that is when we feel our greatest anger. So later, we vote for a new bunch of liars, and for a while feel so much better that we got rid of the old set. Only then to find that they were no better than the last bunch.
And we repeat this cycle ad-in-finitum. Spirographically, around- and-around changing absolutely nothing at all.
Nobody hears. Nobody listens. The walls really are deaf to the calls of Mr and Mrs Random Citizen.
Look up a song by Leonard Cohen: Everybody Knows'.
To change anything at all, you have to become what you despise.
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I think we are all aware of this. But you have to admit there has been a pretty seismic shift towards populism, the biggest in my lifetime. What's happening in the US is astonishing, we are not too far away from it here.
I find this blaming the press for everything really worrying. All it does is allow those in power off the hook. It's just not good enough to say, 'oh they always lie'. The difference is they are not even attempting to tell truth. Our political system has been better than this and will again. |
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"Everything that used to be a sackable offence in politics is no longer held to the same standard. Lying in office? Michael Howard sacked the current PM for that. Treason? Priti Patel got sacked for unauthorised negotiating with a foreign power. Adultery? Illegitimate children? We're back with Johnson again. Being found in contempt of Parliament? That'll be Cummings.
All honour and decency has been destroyed by this lot. Those of you that support them, please feel free to deny all of the above and deny the evidence of your own eyes and ears.
But regardless of your Political Persuasion . . .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_scandals_in_the_United_Kingdom
It's hardly new is it?
So because it's "hardly new" we should just forget about public officials hypocrisy and/or corruption? That appears to be what you're advocating with this post anyway.
Or is it simply that you'd prefer that this administration was subject to no public scrutiny, whilst trying to give the impression of being neutral?
Surely not?
Politicians lie - Period.
Every Government. Every Century. Every Decade.
Yet we only call it out in the 'very moment we find it' because that is when we feel our greatest anger. So later, we vote for a new bunch of liars, and for a while feel so much better that we got rid of the old set. Only then to find that they were no better than the last bunch.
And we repeat this cycle ad-in-finitum. Spirographically, around- and-around changing absolutely nothing at all.
Nobody hears. Nobody listens. The walls really are deaf to the calls of Mr and Mrs Random Citizen.
Look up a song by Leonard Cohen: Everybody Knows'.
To change anything at all, you have to become what you despise.
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No you do not. Public opinion is the lifeblood of a democratic government, and protest and civil unrest is often enough to change their position, which Thatcher found to her cost with the poll tax. This is why Johnson and his cohorts are attempting to subvert our democratic rights by ignoring or attempting to stifle any opposition and interfering with parliament and the judiciary. Suella Braverman is attorney general for a reason, and it's not because she's a competent lawyer.
Politicians lie, yes, but no UK government of modern times has turned it into an art form quite like Boris Johnson and his cabinet, who are clearly guilty of malfeasance in public office.
Our hard won democracy is under threat from a populist right wing government who are determined to push through legislation detrimental to the vast majority of people in the UK, and they are being unwittingly aided and abetted by a large proportion of a politically naive electorate.
It does not bode well for the future of the United Kingdom.
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"Everything that used to be a sackable offence in politics is no longer held to the same standard. Lying in office? Michael Howard sacked the current PM for that. Treason? Priti Patel got sacked for unauthorised negotiating with a foreign power. Adultery? Illegitimate children? We're back with Johnson again. Being found in contempt of Parliament? That'll be Cummings.
All honour and decency has been destroyed by this lot. Those of you that support them, please feel free to deny all of the above and deny the evidence of your own eyes and ears.
But regardless of your Political Persuasion . . .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_scandals_in_the_United_Kingdom
It's hardly new is it?
So because it's "hardly new" we should just forget about public officials hypocrisy and/or corruption? That appears to be what you're advocating with this post anyway.
Or is it simply that you'd prefer that this administration was subject to no public scrutiny, whilst trying to give the impression of being neutral?
Surely not?
Politicians lie - Period.
Every Government. Every Century. Every Decade.
Yet we only call it out in the 'very moment we find it' because that is when we feel our greatest anger. So later, we vote for a new bunch of liars, and for a while feel so much better that we got rid of the old set. Only then to find that they were no better than the last bunch.
And we repeat this cycle ad-in-finitum. Spirographically, around- and-around changing absolutely nothing at all.
Nobody hears. Nobody listens. The walls really are deaf to the calls of Mr and Mrs Random Citizen.
Look up a song by Leonard Cohen: Everybody Knows'.
To change anything at all, you have to become what you despise.
"
Back in the 60s a famous politician got caught out playing away and lying about it.He was sacked and it's still remembered to this day 40 years later.
This gmnt literally lie on a daily basis and when they are caught out either deny it or refuse to talk about it.
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