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"A “minor breach” when he drove to Barnard Castle, however they will not be taking any further action against him.
So, he lied?"
They are not saying he lied, they are saying his trip was unnecessary, regardless of the bullshit explanation |
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"A “minor breach” when he drove to Barnard Castle, however they will not be taking any further action against him."
A breach, none the less. Should he not resign then?? |
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"A “minor breach” when he drove to Barnard Castle, however they will not be taking any further action against him."
And that's the danger now that people will pick and choose what they comply with..
The message is diluted which is not good for the public health and dealing with the virus.. |
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"A “minor breach” when he drove to Barnard Castle, however they will not be taking any further action against him."
Indeed, so he will now make an apology and keep his job? |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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Durham Police - “There might have been a minor breach of the Regulations that would have warranted police intervention” but “there is no intention to take retrospective action”
so bearing in mind he was adamant he did nothing wrong... i think he has to go |
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"Durham Police - “There might have been a minor breach of the Regulations that would have warranted police intervention” but “there is no intention to take retrospective action”
so bearing in mind he was adamant he did nothing wrong... i think he has to go"
I agree, but he won’t go. I expect the government and Boris to highlight the ‘minor breach’ aspect and continue to defend him. He will make an apology and we will be told to ‘move on’ |
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"Durham Police - “There might have been a minor breach of the Regulations that would have warranted police intervention” but “there is no intention to take retrospective action”
so bearing in mind he was adamant he did nothing wrong... i think he has to go
I agree, but he won’t go. I expect the government and Boris to highlight the ‘minor breach’ aspect and continue to defend him. He will make an apology and we will be told to ‘move on’ "
Move on is the latest mantra.
Apparently 2 families have been fined for making the same trip
No way will he go.
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Durham Police statement in full:
On 27 March 2020, Dominic Cummings drove to Durham to self-isolate in a property owned by his father.
Durham Constabulary does not consider that by locating himself at his father’s premises, Mr Cummings committed an offence contrary to regulation 6 of the Health Protection (Coronavirus, Restrictions) (England) Regulations 2020. (We are concerned here with breaches of the Regulations, not the general Government guidance to “stay at home”.)
On 12 April 2020, Mr Cummings drove approximately 26 miles from his father’s property to Barnard Castle with his wife and son. He stated on 25 May 2020 that the purpose of this drive was to test his resilience to drive to London the following day, including whether his eyesight was sufficiently recovered, his period of self-isolation having ended.
Durham Constabulary have examined the circumstances surrounding the journey to Barnard Castle (including ANPR, witness evidence and a review of Mr Cummings’ press conference on 25 May 2020) and have concluded that there might have been a minor breach of the Regulations that would have warranted police intervention. Durham Constabulary view this as minor because there was no apparent breach of social distancing.
Had a Durham Constabulary police officer stopped Mr Cummings driving to or from Barnard Castle, the officer would have spoken to him, and, having established the facts, likely advised Mr Cummings to return to the address in Durham, providing advice on the dangers of travelling during the pandemic crisis. Had this advice been accepted by Mr Cummings, no enforcement action would have been taken.
In line with Durham Constabulary’s general approach throughout the pandemic, there is no intention to take retrospective action in respect of the Barnard Castle incident since this would amount to treating Mr Cummings differently from other members of the public. Durham Constabulary has not taken retrospective action against any other person.
By way of further context, Durham Constabulary has followed Government guidance on management of alleged breaches of the regulations with the emphasis on the NPCC and College of Policing 4Es: Engage, Explain and Encourage before Enforcement.
Finally, commentary in the media has suggested that Mr Cummings was in Durham on 19 April 2020. Mr Cummings denies this and Durham Constabulary have seen insufficient evidence to support this allegation. Therefore Durham Constabulary will take no further action in this matter and has informed Mr Cummings of this decision. |
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"Durham Police statement in full:
On 27 March 2020, Dominic Cummings drove to Durham to self-isolate in a property owned by his father.
Durham Constabulary does not consider that by locating himself at his father’s premises, Mr Cummings committed an offence contrary to regulation 6 of the Health Protection (Coronavirus, Restrictions) (England) Regulations 2020. (We are concerned here with breaches of the Regulations, not the general Government guidance to “stay at home”.)
On 12 April 2020, Mr Cummings drove approximately 26 miles from his father’s property to Barnard Castle with his wife and son. He stated on 25 May 2020 that the purpose of this drive was to test his resilience to drive to London the following day, including whether his eyesight was sufficiently recovered, his period of self-isolation having ended.
Durham Constabulary have examined the circumstances surrounding the journey to Barnard Castle (including ANPR, witness evidence and a review of Mr Cummings’ press conference on 25 May 2020) and have concluded that there might have been a minor breach of the Regulations that would have warranted police intervention. Durham Constabulary view this as minor because there was no apparent breach of social distancing.
Had a Durham Constabulary police officer stopped Mr Cummings driving to or from Barnard Castle, the officer would have spoken to him, and, having established the facts, likely advised Mr Cummings to return to the address in Durham, providing advice on the dangers of travelling during the pandemic crisis. Had this advice been accepted by Mr Cummings, no enforcement action would have been taken.
In line with Durham Constabulary’s general approach throughout the pandemic, there is no intention to take retrospective action in respect of the Barnard Castle incident since this would amount to treating Mr Cummings differently from other members of the public. Durham Constabulary has not taken retrospective action against any other person.
By way of further context, Durham Constabulary has followed Government guidance on management of alleged breaches of the regulations with the emphasis on the NPCC and College of Policing 4Es: Engage, Explain and Encourage before Enforcement.
Finally, commentary in the media has suggested that Mr Cummings was in Durham on 19 April 2020. Mr Cummings denies this and Durham Constabulary have seen insufficient evidence to support this allegation. Therefore Durham Constabulary will take no further action in this matter and has informed Mr Cummings of this decision."
If it was Sadiq Khan, would you, hand on heart defend his position? I'd still say he had to go. That's the whole problem, tribalism has brought people to not apply the same standards across the board. |
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"Durham Police statement in full:
On 27 March 2020, Dominic Cummings drove to Durham to self-isolate in a property owned by his father.
Durham Constabulary does not consider that by locating himself at his father’s premises, Mr Cummings committed an offence contrary to regulation 6 of the Health Protection (Coronavirus, Restrictions) (England) Regulations 2020. (We are concerned here with breaches of the Regulations, not the general Government guidance to “stay at home”.)
On 12 April 2020, Mr Cummings drove approximately 26 miles from his father’s property to Barnard Castle with his wife and son. He stated on 25 May 2020 that the purpose of this drive was to test his resilience to drive to London the following day, including whether his eyesight was sufficiently recovered, his period of self-isolation having ended.
Durham Constabulary have examined the circumstances surrounding the journey to Barnard Castle (including ANPR, witness evidence and a review of Mr Cummings’ press conference on 25 May 2020) and have concluded that there might have been a minor breach of the Regulations that would have warranted police intervention. Durham Constabulary view this as minor because there was no apparent breach of social distancing.
Had a Durham Constabulary police officer stopped Mr Cummings driving to or from Barnard Castle, the officer would have spoken to him, and, having established the facts, likely advised Mr Cummings to return to the address in Durham, providing advice on the dangers of travelling during the pandemic crisis. Had this advice been accepted by Mr Cummings, no enforcement action would have been taken.
In line with Durham Constabulary’s general approach throughout the pandemic, there is no intention to take retrospective action in respect of the Barnard Castle incident since this would amount to treating Mr Cummings differently from other members of the public. Durham Constabulary has not taken retrospective action against any other person.
By way of further context, Durham Constabulary has followed Government guidance on management of alleged breaches of the regulations with the emphasis on the NPCC and College of Policing 4Es: Engage, Explain and Encourage before Enforcement.
Finally, commentary in the media has suggested that Mr Cummings was in Durham on 19 April 2020. Mr Cummings denies this and Durham Constabulary have seen insufficient evidence to support this allegation. Therefore Durham Constabulary will take no further action in this matter and has informed Mr Cummings of this decision."
To summarise, he broke the rules? |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
and then this from "the secret barrister" on twitter....
Lots of excitement about “might”.
The reason for this is that the police don’t determine breaches; they form an opinion. If that opinion is disputed, a court will decide.
In this context, “might” means the police concluded it *was*. Hence they say they would have sent him back.
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"Durham Police statement in full:
On 27 March 2020, Dominic Cummings drove to Durham to self-isolate in a property owned by his father.
Durham Constabulary does not consider that by locating himself at his father’s premises, Mr Cummings committed an offence contrary to regulation 6 of the Health Protection (Coronavirus, Restrictions) (England) Regulations 2020. (We are concerned here with breaches of the Regulations, not the general Government guidance to “stay at home”.)
On 12 April 2020, Mr Cummings drove approximately 26 miles from his father’s property to Barnard Castle with his wife and son. He stated on 25 May 2020 that the purpose of this drive was to test his resilience to drive to London the following day, including whether his eyesight was sufficiently recovered, his period of self-isolation having ended.
Durham Constabulary have examined the circumstances surrounding the journey to Barnard Castle (including ANPR, witness evidence and a review of Mr Cummings’ press conference on 25 May 2020) and have concluded that there might have been a minor breach of the Regulations that would have warranted police intervention. Durham Constabulary view this as minor because there was no apparent breach of social distancing.
Had a Durham Constabulary police officer stopped Mr Cummings driving to or from Barnard Castle, the officer would have spoken to him, and, having established the facts, likely advised Mr Cummings to return to the address in Durham, providing advice on the dangers of travelling during the pandemic crisis. Had this advice been accepted by Mr Cummings, no enforcement action would have been taken.
In line with Durham Constabulary’s general approach throughout the pandemic, there is no intention to take retrospective action in respect of the Barnard Castle incident since this would amount to treating Mr Cummings differently from other members of the public. Durham Constabulary has not taken retrospective action against any other person.
By way of further context, Durham Constabulary has followed Government guidance on management of alleged breaches of the regulations with the emphasis on the NPCC and College of Policing 4Es: Engage, Explain and Encourage before Enforcement.
Finally, commentary in the media has suggested that Mr Cummings was in Durham on 19 April 2020. Mr Cummings denies this and Durham Constabulary have seen insufficient evidence to support this allegation. Therefore Durham Constabulary will take no further action in this matter and has informed Mr Cummings of this decision."
so durham police reckon he did... but if cummings was still to dispute what the police say, they have to say "might" because it would be up to a court to decide........ |
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"If only labour had changed leader in November chances are nobody would care about Cummings "
Maybe, but here we are. I don’t want Cummings to be sacked, I want him to stay and continue to fester and destroy the government’s credibility. They won’t sack him, they can’t now , it’s delicious to watch though  |
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"If only labour had changed leader in November chances are nobody would care about Cummings "
That says more about the electorate than anything else.It also speaks volumes that this story got 10 times the coverage of other more worrying issues (gmnt lying about ppe for eg)
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
in fact if anyone goes now it may be the AG suella Braverman, because she nailed her opinions to the mast and she is suppose to the the top legal official and therefore impartial... |
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By *etsomeMan
over a year ago
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"Durham Police - “There might have been a minor breach of the Regulations that would have warranted police intervention” but “there is no intention to take retrospective action”
so bearing in mind he was adamant he did nothing wrong... i think he has to go"
He will resign when Stephen Kinnock and Tahir Ali resign |
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"Durham Police - “There might have been a minor breach of the Regulations that would have warranted police intervention” but “there is no intention to take retrospective action”
so bearing in mind he was adamant he did nothing wrong... i think he has to go
He will resign when Stephen Kinnock and Tahir Ali resign"
I hope he doesn’t resign, the longer he stay the better |
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By *hilMan
over a year ago
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One proroguing rule breaker defending another isolation rule breaker.
If Boris is still saying he believes Cummings acted legally, after Durham police statement then he needs to be sectioned.
Has Co-vid affected his faculties, he's putting a spin on the fact that Cummins was not guilty of breach on 260 mile trip, and was legal. However there is a glaring omission in his statement in that the 30 mile trip to Barnard Castle was a breach of the rules, and therefore not legal.
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By *etsomeMan
over a year ago
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"i think the key phrase in the statement is going to be "that would have warranted police intervention”
i think that is the phrase that does it for cummings...... "
Will the reporter who claimed there was a second visit or that the police spoke to cummings about him being in Durham resign? |
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"i think the key phrase in the statement is going to be "that would have warranted police intervention”
i think that is the phrase that does it for cummings......
Will the reporter who claimed there was a second visit or that the police spoke to cummings about him being in Durham resign? "
I am sure they will if Cummings does  |
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By *etsomeMan
over a year ago
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"One proroguing rule breaker defending another isolation rule breaker.
If Boris is still saying he believes Cummings acted legally, after Durham police statement then he needs to be sectioned.
Has Co-vid affected his faculties, he's putting a spin on the fact that Cummins was not guilty of breach on 260 mile trip, and was legal. However there is a glaring omission in his statement in that the 30 mile trip to Barnard Castle was a breach of the rules, and therefore not legal.
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If anyone thinks or ever thought these laws - that were cobbled together in a few hours - ever carried any weight then they are silly
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"One proroguing rule breaker defending another isolation rule breaker.
If Boris is still saying he believes Cummings acted legally, after Durham police statement then he needs to be sectioned.
Has Co-vid affected his faculties, he's putting a spin on the fact that Cummins was not guilty of breach on 260 mile trip, and was legal. However there is a glaring omission in his statement in that the 30 mile trip to Barnard Castle was a breach of the rules, and therefore not legal.
If anyone thinks or ever thought these laws - that were cobbled together in a few hours - ever carried any weight then they are silly
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Wow, that is a really desperate attempt to defend the indefensible. So the laws were in fact not valid? |
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"Alky war criminal Campbell another one calling for Dom to quit while simultaneously breaking social distancing rules"
Is Alistair Campbell on here? What about the 39 Tory MPs, SAGE scientists, The Church ? |
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By *etsomeMan
over a year ago
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"i think the key phrase in the statement is going to be "that would have warranted police intervention”
i think that is the phrase that does it for cummings......
Will the reporter who claimed there was a second visit or that the police spoke to cummings about him being in Durham resign?
I am sure they will if Cummings does "
The story must be 90% incorrect. So we at left with someone having to resign because he drove a few miles got out his car for 10 minutes got back in his car and then drove back to where he started. What Tahir Ali did was significantly more likely to spread infection but MSM - nah Tahir Ali didn't have anything to do with brexit |
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"i think the key phrase in the statement is going to be "that would have warranted police intervention”
i think that is the phrase that does it for cummings......
Will the reporter who claimed there was a second visit or that the police spoke to cummings about him being in Durham resign?
I am sure they will if Cummings does
The story must be 90% incorrect. So we at left with someone having to resign because he drove a few miles got out his car for 10 minutes got back in his car and then drove back to where he started. What Tahir Ali did was significantly more likely to spread infection but MSM - nah Tahir Ali didn't have anything to do with brexit"
I hope Cummings doesn’t go anywhere, I enjoy watching the government implode |
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By *etsomeMan
over a year ago
birmingham |
"One proroguing rule breaker defending another isolation rule breaker.
If Boris is still saying he believes Cummings acted legally, after Durham police statement then he needs to be sectioned.
Has Co-vid affected his faculties, he's putting a spin on the fact that Cummins was not guilty of breach on 260 mile trip, and was legal. However there is a glaring omission in his statement in that the 30 mile trip to Barnard Castle was a breach of the rules, and therefore not legal.
If anyone thinks or ever thought these laws - that were cobbled together in a few hours - ever carried any weight then they are silly
Wow, that is a really desperate attempt to defend the indefensible. So the laws were in fact not valid? "
No the laws are a despicable mess that more people should have been outraged about
Even now it is possible to meet members of your family you don't live with)-in a car showroom but not in their garden |
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"i think the key phrase in the statement is going to be "that would have warranted police intervention”
i think that is the phrase that does it for cummings......
Will the reporter who claimed there was a second visit or that the police spoke to cummings about him being in Durham resign?
I am sure they will if Cummings does
The story must be 90% incorrect. So we at left with someone having to resign because he drove a few miles got out his car for 10 minutes got back in his car and then drove back to where he started. What Tahir Ali did was significantly more likely to spread infection but MSM - nah Tahir Ali didn't have anything to do with brexit"
Hold on, why should Tahir Ali resign, you just us the rules weren’t valid and only silly people followed them |
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"One proroguing rule breaker defending another isolation rule breaker.
If Boris is still saying he believes Cummings acted legally, after Durham police statement then he needs to be sectioned.
Has Co-vid affected his faculties, he's putting a spin on the fact that Cummins was not guilty of breach on 260 mile trip, and was legal. However there is a glaring omission in his statement in that the 30 mile trip to Barnard Castle was a breach of the rules, and therefore not legal.
If anyone thinks or ever thought these laws - that were cobbled together in a few hours - ever carried any weight then they are silly
Wow, that is a really desperate attempt to defend the indefensible. So the laws were in fact not valid?
No the laws are a despicable mess that more people should have been outraged about
Even now it is possible to meet members of your family you don't live with)-in a car showroom but not in their garden"
Who made these laws? |
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By *etsomeMan
over a year ago
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"Alky war criminal Campbell another one calling for Dom to quit while simultaneously breaking social distancing rules
Is Alistair Campbell on here? What about the 39 Tory MPs, SAGE scientists, The Church ? "
Axes to grind |
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By *hilMan
over a year ago
HOUGHTON LE SPRING |
"One proroguing rule breaker defending another isolation rule breaker.
If Boris is still saying he believes Cummings acted legally, after Durham police statement then he needs to be sectioned.
Has Co-vid affected his faculties, he's putting a spin on the fact that Cummins was not guilty of breach on 260 mile trip, and was legal. However there is a glaring omission in his statement in that the 30 mile trip to Barnard Castle was a breach of the rules, and therefore not legal.
If anyone thinks or ever thought these laws - that were cobbled together in a few hours - ever carried any weight then they are silly
Wow, that is a really desperate attempt to defend the indefensible. So the laws were in fact not valid? "
Explain that to all the people that have been fined under these laws |
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By *etsomeMan
over a year ago
birmingham |
"One proroguing rule breaker defending another isolation rule breaker.
If Boris is still saying he believes Cummings acted legally, after Durham police statement then he needs to be sectioned.
Has Co-vid affected his faculties, he's putting a spin on the fact that Cummins was not guilty of breach on 260 mile trip, and was legal. However there is a glaring omission in his statement in that the 30 mile trip to Barnard Castle was a breach of the rules, and therefore not legal.
If anyone thinks or ever thought these laws - that were cobbled together in a few hours - ever carried any weight then they are silly
Wow, that is a really desperate attempt to defend the indefensible. So the laws were in fact not valid?
No the laws are a despicable mess that more people should have been outraged about
Even now it is possible to meet members of your family you don't live with)-in a car showroom but not in their garden
Who made these laws? "
Idiots who fell for professor legover's doomsday predictions
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By *etsomeMan
over a year ago
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"One proroguing rule breaker defending another isolation rule breaker.
If Boris is still saying he believes Cummings acted legally, after Durham police statement then he needs to be sectioned.
Has Co-vid affected his faculties, he's putting a spin on the fact that Cummins was not guilty of breach on 260 mile trip, and was legal. However there is a glaring omission in his statement in that the 30 mile trip to Barnard Castle was a breach of the rules, and therefore not legal.
If anyone thinks or ever thought these laws - that were cobbled together in a few hours - ever carried any weight then they are silly
Wow, that is a really desperate attempt to defend the indefensible. So the laws were in fact not valid?
Explain that to all the people that have been fined under these laws"
They won't stand up in court if appealed |
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"Alky war criminal Campbell another one calling for Dom to quit while simultaneously breaking social distancing rules
Is Alistair Campbell on here? What about the 39 Tory MPs, SAGE scientists, The Church ?
Axes to grind"
Even the church? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"One proroguing rule breaker defending another isolation rule breaker.
If Boris is still saying he believes Cummings acted legally, after Durham police statement then he needs to be sectioned.
Has Co-vid affected his faculties, he's putting a spin on the fact that Cummins was not guilty of breach on 260 mile trip, and was legal. However there is a glaring omission in his statement in that the 30 mile trip to Barnard Castle was a breach of the rules, and therefore not legal.
If anyone thinks or ever thought these laws - that were cobbled together in a few hours - ever carried any weight then they are silly
Wow, that is a really desperate attempt to defend the indefensible. So the laws were in fact not valid?
No the laws are a despicable mess that more people should have been outraged about
Even now it is possible to meet members of your family you don't live with)-in a car showroom but not in their garden
Who made these laws?
Idiots who fell for professor legover's doomsday predictions
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Idiots? Do you mean the likes of Boris and Cummings? Is everything ok with you today ? |
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Bet the government has got the popcorn out and sitting back, while people and the media are running around like headless chickens talking about cummings they are free to do anything they like. Keep up the good work backings the government, letting them have a free hand. |
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By *etsomeMan
over a year ago
birmingham |
"One proroguing rule breaker defending another isolation rule breaker.
If Boris is still saying he believes Cummings acted legally, after Durham police statement then he needs to be sectioned.
Has Co-vid affected his faculties, he's putting a spin on the fact that Cummins was not guilty of breach on 260 mile trip, and was legal. However there is a glaring omission in his statement in that the 30 mile trip to Barnard Castle was a breach of the rules, and therefore not legal.
If anyone thinks or ever thought these laws - that were cobbled together in a few hours - ever carried any weight then they are silly
Wow, that is a really desperate attempt to defend the indefensible. So the laws were in fact not valid?
No the laws are a despicable mess that more people should have been outraged about
Even now it is possible to meet members of your family you don't live with)-in a car showroom but not in their garden
Who made these laws?
Idiots who fell for professor legover's doomsday predictions
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Idiots? Do you mean the likes of Boris and Cummings? Is everything ok with you today ? "
Queer Starmer and all other political parties in most of Europe have all fallen for the same spaghetti computer code |
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"Bet the government has got the popcorn out and sitting back, while people and the media are running around like headless chickens talking about cummings they are free to do anything they like. Keep up the good work backings the government, letting them have a free hand."
Haha, this is a wind up? The government are currently shutting their pants, Cummings is a liability that can not be sacked, it’s all such fun to watch . I bet your going to mention their 80 seat majority next |
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"One proroguing rule breaker defending another isolation rule breaker.
If Boris is still saying he believes Cummings acted legally, after Durham police statement then he needs to be sectioned.
Has Co-vid affected his faculties, he's putting a spin on the fact that Cummins was not guilty of breach on 260 mile trip, and was legal. However there is a glaring omission in his statement in that the 30 mile trip to Barnard Castle was a breach of the rules, and therefore not legal.
If anyone thinks or ever thought these laws - that were cobbled together in a few hours - ever carried any weight then they are silly
Wow, that is a really desperate attempt to defend the indefensible. So the laws were in fact not valid?
No the laws are a despicable mess that more people should have been outraged about
Even now it is possible to meet members of your family you don't live with)-in a car showroom but not in their garden
Who made these laws?
Idiots who fell for professor legover's doomsday predictions
I
Idiots? Do you mean the likes of Boris and Cummings? Is everything ok with you today ?
Queer Starmer and all other political parties in most of Europe have all fallen for the same spaghetti computer code"
What has Starmer got to do with it? Did you used to play as a goalkeeper for Coventry City ? |
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By *etsomeMan
over a year ago
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"Alky war criminal Campbell another one calling for Dom to quit while simultaneously breaking social distancing rules
Is Alistair Campbell on here? What about the 39 Tory MPs, SAGE scientists, The Church ?
Axes to grind
Even the church? "
Lefties - probably don't believe in god |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Alky war criminal Campbell another one calling for Dom to quit while simultaneously breaking social distancing rules
Is Alistair Campbell on here? What about the 39 Tory MPs, SAGE scientists, The Church ?
Axes to grind
Even the church?
Lefties - probably don't believe in god"
That makes no sense, but it was to be expected |
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By *etsomeMan
over a year ago
birmingham |
"Bet the government has got the popcorn out and sitting back, while people and the media are running around like headless chickens talking about cummings they are free to do anything they like. Keep up the good work backings the government, letting them have a free hand.
Haha, this is a wind up? The government are currently shutting their pants, Cummings is a liability that can not be sacked, it’s all such fun to watch . I bet your going to mention their 80 seat majority next "
I just suggest you put all your money on Starmer beating Boris in the next general election then. In 4.5 years
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By *etsomeMan
over a year ago
birmingham |
"One proroguing rule breaker defending another isolation rule breaker.
If Boris is still saying he believes Cummings acted legally, after Durham police statement then he needs to be sectioned.
Has Co-vid affected his faculties, he's putting a spin on the fact that Cummins was not guilty of breach on 260 mile trip, and was legal. However there is a glaring omission in his statement in that the 30 mile trip to Barnard Castle was a breach of the rules, and therefore not legal.
If anyone thinks or ever thought these laws - that were cobbled together in a few hours - ever carried any weight then they are silly
Wow, that is a really desperate attempt to defend the indefensible. So the laws were in fact not valid?
No the laws are a despicable mess that more people should have been outraged about
Even now it is possible to meet members of your family you don't live with)-in a car showroom but not in their garden
Who made these laws?
Idiots who fell for professor legover's doomsday predictions
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Idiots? Do you mean the likes of Boris and Cummings? Is everything ok with you today ?
Queer Starmer and all other political parties in most of Europe have all fallen for the same spaghetti computer code
What has Starmer got to do with it? Did you used to play as a goalkeeper for Coventry City ? "
If you ignore the lizard's Icke is sounding pretty reasonable these days |
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"Bet the government has got the popcorn out and sitting back, while people and the media are running around like headless chickens talking about cummings they are free to do anything they like. Keep up the good work backings the government, letting them have a free hand.
Haha, this is a wind up? The government are currently shutting their pants, Cummings is a liability that can not be sacked, it’s all such fun to watch . I bet your going to mention their 80 seat majority next
I just suggest you put all your money on Starmer beating Boris in the next general election then. In 4.5 years
with a big increase in unemployelment Dom's minor breach will be pretty low on people's list of priorities"
I don’t bet, but thanks for the tip. Unemployment will increase but we have Brexit to look forward to soon so there will be jobs for all, £350 million a week to the NHS. The Brexit bonanza we were promised will solve all the problem that the lockdown had caused . Don’t you agree? |
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"One proroguing rule breaker defending another isolation rule breaker.
If Boris is still saying he believes Cummings acted legally, after Durham police statement then he needs to be sectioned.
Has Co-vid affected his faculties, he's putting a spin on the fact that Cummins was not guilty of breach on 260 mile trip, and was legal. However there is a glaring omission in his statement in that the 30 mile trip to Barnard Castle was a breach of the rules, and therefore not legal.
If anyone thinks or ever thought these laws - that were cobbled together in a few hours - ever carried any weight then they are silly
Wow, that is a really desperate attempt to defend the indefensible. So the laws were in fact not valid?
No the laws are a despicable mess that more people should have been outraged about
Even now it is possible to meet members of your family you don't live with)-in a car showroom but not in their garden
Who made these laws?
Idiots who fell for professor legover's doomsday predictions
I
Idiots? Do you mean the likes of Boris and Cummings? Is everything ok with you today ?
Queer Starmer and all other political parties in most of Europe have all fallen for the same spaghetti computer code
What has Starmer got to do with it? Did you used to play as a goalkeeper for Coventry City ?
If you ignore the lizard's Icke is sounding pretty reasonable these days"
Only to you my friend. |
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"One proroguing rule breaker defending another isolation rule breaker.
If Boris is still saying he believes Cummings acted legally, after Durham police statement then he needs to be sectioned.
Has Co-vid affected his faculties, he's putting a spin on the fact that Cummins was not guilty of breach on 260 mile trip, and was legal. However there is a glaring omission in his statement in that the 30 mile trip to Barnard Castle was a breach of the rules, and therefore not legal.
If anyone thinks or ever thought these laws - that were cobbled together in a few hours - ever carried any weight then they are silly
Wow, that is a really desperate attempt to defend the indefensible. So the laws were in fact not valid?
No the laws are a despicable mess that more people should have been outraged about
Even now it is possible to meet members of your family you don't live with)-in a car showroom but not in their garden
Who made these laws?
Idiots who fell for professor legover's doomsday predictions
I
Idiots? Do you mean the likes of Boris and Cummings? Is everything ok with you today ?
Queer Starmer and all other political parties in most of Europe have all fallen for the same spaghetti computer code"
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By *etsomeMan
over a year ago
birmingham |
"One proroguing rule breaker defending another isolation rule breaker.
If Boris is still saying he believes Cummings acted legally, after Durham police statement then he needs to be sectioned.
Has Co-vid affected his faculties, he's putting a spin on the fact that Cummins was not guilty of breach on 260 mile trip, and was legal. However there is a glaring omission in his statement in that the 30 mile trip to Barnard Castle was a breach of the rules, and therefore not legal.
If anyone thinks or ever thought these laws - that were cobbled together in a few hours - ever carried any weight then they are silly
Wow, that is a really desperate attempt to defend the indefensible. So the laws were in fact not valid?
No the laws are a despicable mess that more people should have been outraged about
Even now it is possible to meet members of your family you don't live with)-in a car showroom but not in their garden
Who made these laws?
Idiots who fell for professor legover's doomsday predictions
I
Idiots? Do you mean the likes of Boris and Cummings? Is everything ok with you today ?
Queer Starmer and all other political parties in most of Europe have all fallen for the same spaghetti computer code
What has Starmer got to do with it? Did you used to play as a goalkeeper for Coventry City ?
If you ignore the lizard's Icke is sounding pretty reasonable these days
Only to you my friend. "
OK other than the lizards and 5G |
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By *etsomeMan
over a year ago
birmingham |
"Bet the government has got the popcorn out and sitting back, while people and the media are running around like headless chickens talking about cummings they are free to do anything they like. Keep up the good work backings the government, letting them have a free hand.
Haha, this is a wind up? The government are currently shutting their pants, Cummings is a liability that can not be sacked, it’s all such fun to watch . I bet your going to mention their 80 seat majority next
I just suggest you put all your money on Starmer beating Boris in the next general election then. In 4.5 years
with a big increase in unemployelment Dom's minor breach will be pretty low on people's list of priorities
I don’t bet, but thanks for the tip. Unemployment will increase but we have Brexit to look forward to soon so there will be jobs for all, £350 million a week to the NHS. The Brexit bonanza we were promised will solve all the problem that the lockdown had caused . Don’t you agree? "
I had a feeling you might be a remainer |
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"Bet the government has got the popcorn out and sitting back, while people and the media are running around like headless chickens talking about cummings they are free to do anything they like. Keep up the good work backings the government, letting them have a free hand.
Haha, this is a wind up? The government are currently shutting their pants, Cummings is a liability that can not be sacked, it’s all such fun to watch . I bet your going to mention their 80 seat majority next
I just suggest you put all your money on Starmer beating Boris in the next general election then. In 4.5 years
with a big increase in unemployelment Dom's minor breach will be pretty low on people's list of priorities
I don’t bet, but thanks for the tip. Unemployment will increase but we have Brexit to look forward to soon so there will be jobs for all, £350 million a week to the NHS. The Brexit bonanza we were promised will solve all the problem that the lockdown had caused . Don’t you agree?
I had a feeling you might be a remainer"
I had feeling you voted leave |
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"Bet the government has got the popcorn out and sitting back, while people and the media are running around like headless chickens talking about cummings they are free to do anything they like. Keep up the good work backings the government, letting them have a free hand.
Haha, this is a wind up? The government are currently shutting their pants, Cummings is a liability that can not be sacked, it’s all such fun to watch . I bet your going to mention their 80 seat majority next
I just suggest you put all your money on Starmer beating Boris in the next general election then. In 4.5 years
with a big increase in unemployelment Dom's minor breach will be pretty low on people's list of priorities
I don’t bet, but thanks for the tip. Unemployment will increase but we have Brexit to look forward to soon so there will be jobs for all, £350 million a week to the NHS. The Brexit bonanza we were promised will solve all the problem that the lockdown had caused . Don’t you agree?
I had a feeling you might be a remainer"
Are you suggesting that only remainders have sensible opinions based in information and facts? |
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over a year ago
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"I believe mayo and kermode do subliminal messeges during their podcast convincing eveveryone to vote labour."
Yes, if you play it backwards they are denouncing Boris and Cummings as the devil |
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"Bet the government has got the popcorn out and sitting back, while people and the media are running around like headless chickens talking about cummings they are free to do anything they like. Keep up the good work backings the government, letting them have a free hand."
I'll ask you, would you of defended Sadiq Khan if he had done the same? Or Jess Phillips say?? |
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"A “minor breach” when he drove to Barnard Castle, however they will not be taking any further action against him.
And that's the danger now that people will pick and choose what they comply with.. "
I will not be complying with the guidelines, if I get told to self isolate due to the test and track actually working.
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I think a lot more people will be ignoring the government now that we have all had the piss taken out of us.
One rule for the higher ups and one for the prolls |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
and i don't think the johnson daily briefing is helping.... because he is basically gagging witty and valance from speaking.... wow!
you also know now why they were sent home and didn't do the monday briefing now..... |
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The law should treat everyone equally regardless of who you are. From what I have read the police say his trip to Durham was within the rules. The castle specsavers trip was a breach of the rules. The other stories turned out to be just stories. He should be fined for the castle trip retrospectively and also anyone else guilty of breaking the rules retrospectively if evidence is provided. |
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By *etsomeMan
over a year ago
birmingham |
"and i don't think the johnson daily briefing is helping.... because he is basically gagging witty and valance from speaking.... wow!
you also know now why they were sent home and didn't do the monday briefing now....."
Bojo was a lot better today - handled the #scummedia very well |
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By *etsomeMan
over a year ago
birmingham |
"A “minor breach” when he drove to Barnard Castle, however they will not be taking any further action against him.
And that's the danger now that people will pick and choose what they comply with..
I will not be complying with the guidelines, if I get told to self isolate due to the test and track actually working.
I will be using cummings excuses, they worked very well for him "
good lockdown is a word that will go down in infamy |
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Scum media..superb
S'funny when they are hacking the phones of dead children the tories dont bat an eye lid but when they dare to question the chief advisor on an unnecessary journey they are public enemy no 1. |
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"and i don't think the johnson daily briefing is helping.... because he is basically gagging witty and valance from speaking.... wow!
you also know now why they were sent home and didn't do the monday briefing now.....
Bojo was a lot better today - handled the #scummedia very well"
Haha, he was appalling, again. |
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"A “minor breach” when he drove to Barnard Castle, however they will not be taking any further action against him.
And that's the danger now that people will pick and choose what they comply with..
I will not be complying with the guidelines, if I get told to self isolate due to the test and track actually working.
I will be using cummings excuses, they worked very well for him
good lockdown is a word that will go down in infamy"
Who told us to go into lockdown ? |
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"and i don't think the johnson daily briefing is helping.... because he is basically gagging witty and valance from speaking.... wow!
you also know now why they were sent home and didn't do the monday briefing now.....
Bojo was a lot better today - handled the #scummedia very well"
'scum media'.....you sound like some sort of communist. I think you would be better of in China, no scrutiny there. Boris is a failure, you know it, but just can't admit it yet. Don't worry, you will get it soon. |
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"Im also wondering why the scum press isnt reporting french navy assisting illegals across into british waters,is it to keep death certs down ,our european allies ha"
Have you just made that up? What is your source of information ? |
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"and i don't think the johnson daily briefing is helping.... because he is basically gagging witty and valance from speaking.... wow!
you also know now why they were sent home and didn't do the monday briefing now.....
Bojo was a lot better today - handled the #scummedia very well
'scum media'.....you sound like some sort of communist. I think you would be better of in China, no scrutiny there. Boris is a failure, you know it, but just can't admit it yet. Don't worry, you will get it soon. "
Judging by his posts I am not sure he will, |
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"and i don't think the johnson daily briefing is helping.... because he is basically gagging witty and valance from speaking.... wow!
you also know now why they were sent home and didn't do the monday briefing now.....
Bojo was a lot better today - handled the #scummedia very well
'scum media'.....you sound like some sort of communist. I think you would be better of in China, no scrutiny there. Boris is a failure, you know it, but just can't admit it yet. Don't worry, you will get it soon.
Judging by his posts I am not sure he will, "
They are scum media, apart from when the report stuff he likes. God, it's so predictable......the great unelightenment continues with this lot |
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"and i don't think the johnson daily briefing is helping.... because he is basically gagging witty and valance from speaking.... wow!
you also know now why they were sent home and didn't do the monday briefing now.....
Bojo was a lot better today - handled the #scummedia very well
'scum media'.....you sound like some sort of communist. I think you would be better of in China, no scrutiny there. Boris is a failure, you know it, but just can't admit it yet. Don't worry, you will get it soon.
Judging by his posts I am not sure he will,
They are scum media, apart from when the report stuff he likes. God, it's so predictable......the great unelightenment continues with this lot "
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"Im also wondering why the scum press isnt reporting french navy assisting illegals across into british waters,is it to keep death certs down ,our european allies ha"
Is everything okay?
Do you have anyone you can call or talk to?
Things will get better. |
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"Im also wondering why the scum press isnt reporting french navy assisting illegals across into british waters,is it to keep death certs down ,our european allies ha
Have you just made that up? What is your source of information ? "
Not taking sides but the incident was on both BBC and sky news a few days ago. I only briefly saw it but they caught it all on film. The French ship shadowed a migrant vessel until it entered British waters. Did not make any attempts to intercept. Fisherman reported it happens a lot |
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"Im also wondering why the scum press isnt reporting french navy assisting illegals across into british waters,is it to keep death certs down ,our european allies ha
Have you just made that up? What is your source of information ?
Not taking sides but the incident was on both BBC and sky news a few days ago. I only briefly saw it but they caught it all on film. The French ship shadowed a migrant vessel until it entered British waters. Did not make any attempts to intercept. Fisherman reported it happens a lot"
So it was reported in the press? |
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"Im also wondering why the scum press isnt reporting french navy assisting illegals across into british waters,is it to keep death certs down ,our european allies ha
Have you just made that up? What is your source of information ?
Not taking sides but the incident was on both BBC and sky news a few days ago. I only briefly saw it but they caught it all on film. The French ship shadowed a migrant vessel until it entered British waters. Did not make any attempts to intercept. Fisherman reported it happens a lot
So it was reported in the press? "
It was on tv yes. I'm pretty sure both BBC and sky. Certainly only brief but was there for all to see our French neighbours at their best .Don't know about the papers I'm afraid |
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"Im also wondering why the scum press isnt reporting french navy assisting illegals across into british waters,is it to keep death certs down ,our european allies ha
Have you just made that up? What is your source of information ?
Not taking sides but the incident was on both BBC and sky news a few days ago. I only briefly saw it but they caught it all on film. The French ship shadowed a migrant vessel until it entered British waters. Did not make any attempts to intercept. Fisherman reported it happens a lot
So it was reported in the press?
It was on tv yes. I'm pretty sure both BBC and sky. Certainly only brief but was there for all to see our French neighbours at their best .Don't know about the papers I'm afraid"
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"Im also wondering why the scum press isnt reporting french navy assisting illegals across into british waters,is it to keep death certs down ,our european allies ha
Have you just made that up? What is your source of information ?
Not taking sides but the incident was on both BBC and sky news a few days ago. I only briefly saw it but they caught it all on film. The French ship shadowed a migrant vessel until it entered British waters. Did not make any attempts to intercept. Fisherman reported it happens a lot
So it was reported in the press?
It was on tv yes. I'm pretty sure both BBC and sky. Certainly only brief but was there for all to see our French neighbours at their best .Don't know about the papers I'm afraid
Well, we aren’t in the EU anymore, why would they intercept the ship? "
Maybe because its an illegal act and they have a duty to investigate and protect. In or out of the EU makes no difference. It's the same when migrants cross from North Africa to italy |
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"Im also wondering why the scum press isnt reporting french navy assisting illegals across into british waters,is it to keep death certs down ,our european allies ha
Have you just made that up? What is your source of information ?
Not taking sides but the incident was on both BBC and sky news a few days ago. I only briefly saw it but they caught it all on film. The French ship shadowed a migrant vessel until it entered British waters. Did not make any attempts to intercept. Fisherman reported it happens a lot
So it was reported in the press?
It was on tv yes. I'm pretty sure both BBC and sky. Certainly only brief but was there for all to see our French neighbours at their best .Don't know about the papers I'm afraid
Well, we aren’t in the EU anymore, why would they intercept the ship? "
Wouldnt worry about it..got Farage there keeping us all safe. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"and i don't think the johnson daily briefing is helping.... because he is basically gagging witty and valance from speaking.... wow!
you also know now why they were sent home and didn't do the monday briefing now.....
Bojo was a lot better today - handled the #scummedia very well"
ooooh.... #scummedia.... the alt-right's new favourite hastag...
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"and i don't think the johnson daily briefing is helping.... because he is basically gagging witty and valance from speaking.... wow!
you also know now why they were sent home and didn't do the monday briefing now.....
Bojo was a lot better today - handled the #scummedia very well"
Shame we didn’t have PMQ this week. Using Zoom allows BJ (with Dom holding prompt cards up ) the opportunity to spout bollox as usual |
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By *hilMan
over a year ago
HOUGHTON LE SPRING |
"and i don't think the johnson daily briefing is helping.... because he is basically gagging witty and valance from speaking.... wow!
you also know now why they were sent home and didn't do the monday briefing now.....
Bojo was a lot better today - handled the #scummedia very well
Haha, he was appalling, again. "
After Boris said to Laura Kuenssberg is that ok he muted her microphone so she could not reply. How many other gremlins with sound during press interviews have been orchestrated by the government when they struggle to answer questions. |
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"Im also wondering why the scum press isnt reporting french navy assisting illegals across into british waters,is it to keep death certs down ,our european allies ha
Have you just made that up? What is your source of information ?
Not taking sides but the incident was on both BBC and sky news a few days ago. I only briefly saw it but they caught it all on film. The French ship shadowed a migrant vessel until it entered British waters. Did not make any attempts to intercept. Fisherman reported it happens a lot
So it was reported in the press?
It was on tv yes. I'm pretty sure both BBC and sky. Certainly only brief but was there for all to see our French neighbours at their best .Don't know about the papers I'm afraid
Well, we aren’t in the EU anymore, why would they intercept the ship?
Wouldnt worry about it..got Farage there keeping us all safe."
Hehehe yes most likely but safe from the migrants or the french |
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By *hilMan
over a year ago
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"He did wrong,but why sack someone who knows the plan"
He obviously doesn't know or understand the plan / rules but if he can't set an example and observe the rules by acing unlawfully, he has to go.
Maybe his eyesight was that bad he couldn't read the rules. |
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"He did wrong,but why sack someone who knows the plan
He obviously doesn't know or understand the plan / rules but if he can't set an example and observe the rules by acing unlawfully, he has to go.
Maybe his eyesight was that bad he couldn't read the rules."
So you do want different rules for different people then |
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"we've already got those
Exactly! Thats why he has to go 
But lots have been saying it should not be different rules for different people
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It should not be different rules for different people. Anyone whu makes the rules (Medical advisor in Scotland and England) who screw up, should resign. Cummings knew the rules, he screwed up, he should go. Why is he more special than other advisors? |
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"we've already got those
Exactly! Thats why he has to go
But lots have been saying it should not be different rules for different people
It should not be different rules for different people. Anyone whu makes the rules (Medical advisor in Scotland and England) who screw up, should resign. Cummings knew the rules, he screwed up, he should go. Why is he more special than other advisors?"
If you have the same laws for all then you have the same punishment for all regardless of position or power otherwise it's not the same for all |
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"He did wrong,but why sack someone who knows the plan
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Unless the plan is to kill a higher percentage of the population than any other country on the planet, maybe he's not quite as vital as everyone seems to be making him out to be. |
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"we've already got those
Exactly! Thats why he has to go
But lots have been saying it should not be different rules for different people
It should not be different rules for different people. Anyone whu makes the rules (Medical advisor in Scotland and England) who screw up, should resign. Cummings knew the rules, he screwed up, he should go. Why is he more special than other advisors?
If you have the same laws for all then you have the same punishment for all regardless of position or power otherwise it's not the same for all"
We agree - the other advisors resigned, so should DC. If not he should be fired |
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"we've already got those
Exactly! Thats why he has to go
But lots have been saying it should not be different rules for different people
It should not be different rules for different people. Anyone whu makes the rules (Medical advisor in Scotland and England) who screw up, should resign. Cummings knew the rules, he screwed up, he should go. Why is he more special than other advisors?
If you have the same laws for all then you have the same punishment for all regardless of position or power otherwise it's not the same for all
We agree - the other advisors resigned, so should DC. If not he should be fired "
Resigned yes but the law must remain the law for all including the punishment |
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"we've already got those
Exactly! Thats why he has to go
But lots have been saying it should not be different rules for different people
It should not be different rules for different people. Anyone whu makes the rules (Medical advisor in Scotland and England) who screw up, should resign. Cummings knew the rules, he screwed up, he should go. Why is he more special than other advisors?
If you have the same laws for all then you have the same punishment for all regardless of position or power otherwise it's not the same for all
We agree - the other advisors resigned, so should DC. If not he should be fired
Resigned yes but the law must remain the law for all including the punishment"
I’d be happy if he resigned. If Boris hadn’t given him all the aircover then he might have done. In the absenceof that he should have been fired, but again BJ has no backbone |
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"we've already got those
Exactly! Thats why he has to go
But lots have been saying it should not be different rules for different people
It should not be different rules for different people. Anyone whu makes the rules (Medical advisor in Scotland and England) who screw up, should resign. Cummings knew the rules, he screwed up, he should go. Why is he more special than other advisors?
If you have the same laws for all then you have the same punishment for all regardless of position or power otherwise it's not the same for all
We agree - the other advisors resigned, so should DC. If not he should be fired
Resigned yes but the law must remain the law for all including the punishment
I’d be happy if he resigned. If Boris hadn’t given him all the aircover then he might have done. In the absenceof that he should have been fired, but again BJ has no backbone "
I don't know if it's a backbone issue. What motivation would Boris have for firing Cummings? |
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