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By *hilloutMan
over a year ago
All over the place! Northwesr, , Southwest |
Politicians elevate lying to an art form and frequently get away with it.
Journalists are now more often stenographers for the establishment than anything else.
Take your pick. |
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By *etsomeMan
over a year ago
birmingham |
Journalists - doom mongers. If some statistician says 40,000 will die of covid-19 and some say 5000,000 then they will be all over the latter and try to supress those who give a more measured approach |
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It's neither, there have been and still are some very good journalists and equally some politicians..
Problem is when one profession is demonised and attacked sometimes literally, see trump/putin etc because they are not loyal lap dogs for the cause/regime certainly in the free world democracy tends to be lessened.. |
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By *eeBee67Man
over a year ago
Masked and Distant |
In the briefings? Journalists.
They are the ones creating panic, doom and confusion not the politicians.
They are useless, not one question on the unusable gowns, just questions about sunbathing 
Get rid of them and get more questions from the public on. |
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"In the briefings? Journalists.
They are the ones creating panic, doom and confusion not the politicians.
They are useless, not one question on the unusable gowns, just questions about sunbathing
Get rid of them and get more questions from the public on."
I'd say a dangerous killer virus is causing the panic |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
kildare |
"In the briefings? Journalists.
They are the ones creating panic, doom and confusion not the politicians.
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Boris has created real doom and confusion
Confusion with his mixed messages and late actions
And doom with the resulting death toll |
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"Journalist their to busy trying to make and twist news interested stead of just telling us wtf has just happened "
That doesn't ring true when it was the journalists asking questions about PPE, that there have been so many deaths amongst NHS and care staff sort of suggests the journalists were spot on with that..
It was the government spinning the reality and even suggesting the shortages were partly to blame because of misuse.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I can think of a couple of Journalist turned politicians that I wouldn't want be related to."
And politicians turned journalists... Boris went one way...his mate George O went t'other.... take your pick! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Politicians often use journalists to do their dirty work.They can be as bad as each other."
I think this is how the government is making a lot of decisions, by feeding the journalists bits of info then see how it goes down. A bit like the coming sundays road map by boris. |
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"Politicians often use journalists to do their dirty work.They can be as bad as each other.
I think this is how the government is making a lot of decisions, by feeding the journalists bits of info then see how it goes down. A bit like the coming sundays road map by boris."
Gmnts have been doing it for years.
Always helps when you have got a big chunk of the media onside |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
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"Politicians or journalists?
Journalist; they got the country to vote for Brexit and now they're trying to stir up the nation over how the government's handling thin pandemic. "
They aren't stirring up the public enough about Boris's failings
Boris has failed with poor decisions and newspapers full of people clapping and walking laps of their gardens
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Try a world without both and see where that lands you.
There are very good journalists and very bad ones, politicians too. To naively lump all together is ignorant in the extreme. To do so is part of the issue - life appears to have become so very polarised. This is wrong, this is right. This is good, this is bad. He/she is evil, he/she is a saint.
We all know from our own experience that life is complex and a large number variables impinge on outcomes.
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"Try a world without both and see where that lands you.
There are very good journalists and very bad ones, politicians too. To naively lump all together is ignorant in the extreme. To do so is part of the issue - life appears to have become so very polarised. This is wrong, this is right. This is good, this is bad. He/she is evil, he/she is a saint.
We all know from our own experience that life is complex and a large number variables impinge on outcomes.
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"Try a world without both and see where that lands you.
There are very good journalists and very bad ones, politicians too. To naively lump all together is ignorant in the extreme. To do so is part of the issue - life appears to have become so very polarised. This is wrong, this is right. This is good, this is bad. He/she is evil, he/she is a saint.
We all know from our own experience that life is complex and a large number variables impinge on outcomes.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Too binary. Some great politicians, some shit. Same with journalists. A lot of people seem to coating a lot of journalists for simply reporting figures or stuff happening showing why Boris and co are so inept. Portrayed as not supporting their country. I'd of thought it was the best way to support your country by telling it when it's being shafted. |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
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"Too binary. Some great politicians, some shit. Same with journalists. A lot of people seem to coating a lot of journalists for simply reporting figures or stuff happening showing why Boris and co are so inept. Portrayed as not supporting their country. I'd of thought it was the best way to support your country by telling it when it's being shafted."
They are not showing how truly inept Boris and co really are is the problem
They rather print clapping stories and old folks doing laps of their garden
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By *ornLordMan
over a year ago
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"Too binary. Some great politicians, some shit. Same with journalists. A lot of people seem to coating a lot of journalists for simply reporting figures or stuff happening showing why Boris and co are so inept. Portrayed as not supporting their country. I'd of thought it was the best way to support your country by telling it when it's being shafted.
They are not showing how truly inept Boris and co really are is the problem
They rather print clapping stories and old folks doing laps of their garden
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And this - their complicity in the gaslighting of the electorate- is why I’d rank those journalists lower than the politicians who are pulling their strings. |
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"Too binary. Some great politicians, some shit. Same with journalists. A lot of people seem to coating a lot of journalists for simply reporting figures or stuff happening showing why Boris and co are so inept. Portrayed as not supporting their country. I'd of thought it was the best way to support your country by telling it when it's being shafted.
They are not showing how truly inept Boris and co really are is the problem
They rather print clapping stories and old folks doing laps of their garden
And this - their complicity in the gaslighting of the electorate- is why I’d rank those journalists lower than the politicians who are pulling their strings. "
And yet people think the media are being too harsh on the gmnt. |
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By *ornLordMan
over a year ago
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"Too binary. Some great politicians, some shit. Same with journalists. A lot of people seem to coating a lot of journalists for simply reporting figures or stuff happening showing why Boris and co are so inept. Portrayed as not supporting their country. I'd of thought it was the best way to support your country by telling it when it's being shafted.
They are not showing how truly inept Boris and co really are is the problem
They rather print clapping stories and old folks doing laps of their garden
And this - their complicity in the gaslighting of the electorate- is why I’d rank those journalists lower than the politicians who are pulling their strings.
And yet people think the media are being too harsh on the gmnt."
There’s no accounting for that*. Just how bad would things have to get?
*Actually, there is: skilful news management from no 10, slogans for the weak-minded, bullshit like “we’re in this together” etc etc... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Politicians some journalists have been outstanding during this crisis piers Morgan for example has really held the government to account "
Agree on your current point....shame he is shuch a s**t most of the time... |
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"Politicians some journalists have been outstanding during this crisis piers Morgan for example has really held the government to account
Agree on your current point....shame he is shuch a s**t most of the time..."
Haha I know before this crisis I had never once agreed with him about anything but he really has stepped up during this crisis it almost pains me to say it |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Politicians or journalists?
Aren't they largely on the same team. "
That's an easy one.
How many politicians got fired for lying and became journalists because the standards were lower?  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Politicians or journalists?"
When you say worst, at what do you mean .?
We elect politicians and as such can express our opinion of them at the electorate poll. Likewise we are not compelled to buy newspapers and could simply stop buying them if we believe that they were misleading us. |
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