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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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After the massive drive for native workers, It turns out that only a small number of natives are eligible to work in the fields.
Many have citied barriers to this job including:
1. Distance to the farms and travel arrangements. As most applicants live in cities.
2. Length of contracts are short and have no employment protections.
3. Difficulty in reaching the required standard to even pick fruit and vegetables.
4. No flexibility in working hours.
5. Requirements to live onsite for the duration of the harvesting time.
Although well meaning, our good intentions highlight a serious problem with our workforce in doing manual labour.
I know us Brits are not lazy as some right wing media claim. The biggest problem is that there are major barriers due to Government austerity driven measures which have reduced the worth of British workers in manual jobs.
For example, working tax credits would have provided additional income to support British workers to do manual labour and provided the freedom from them to travel and work in different areas
It just show that after years of massive incompetence and short sightedness, when a crisis occurs our government is again ill equipped to lead us properly.
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"After the massive drive for native workers, It turns out that only a small number of natives are eligible to work in the fields.
Many have citied barriers to this job including:
1. Distance to the farms and travel arrangements. As most applicants live in cities.
2. Length of contracts are short and have no employment protections.
3. Difficulty in reaching the required standard to even pick fruit and vegetables.
4. No flexibility in working hours.
5. Requirements to live onsite for the duration of the harvesting time.
Although well meaning, our good intentions highlight a serious problem with our workforce in doing manual labour.
I know us Brits are not lazy as some right wing media claim. The biggest problem is that there are major barriers due to Government austerity driven measures which have reduced the worth of British workers in manual jobs.
For example, working tax credits would have provided additional income to support British workers to do manual labour and provided the freedom from them to travel and work in different areas
It just show that after years of massive incompetence and short sightedness, when a crisis occurs our government is again ill equipped to lead us properly.
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The irony is the majority of farmers voted for brexit, now they're having to charter planes to get those workers in!
I did hear there are some areas were British workers are doing it though. |
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If growers and producers want their crops harvested they need to be flexible and adjust their requirements. If they don’t - they lose their crops. Their choice .
If people want to work they need to be flexible and adjust their expectations. If they don’t - they don’t work . Don’t moan.
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"If growers and producers want their crops harvested they need to be flexible and adjust their requirements. If they don’t - they lose their crops. Their choice .
If people want to work they need to be flexible and adjust their expectations. If they don’t - they don’t work . Don’t moan.
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Good plan. Just ask the fruit to be flexible and not rot while it's not being picked.
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In the olden days young teenagers could work. My sis and i worked Mon to Fri, 8 to 4 throughout 2 entire summer holidays picking raspberries. The money was not good but we were happy with what we got and it was a laugh as all our friends were doing the same. It also enabled my mum to continue her job without worrying about childcare when she was at work. |
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"After the massive drive for native workers, It turns out that only a small number of natives are eligible to work in the fields.
Many have citied barriers to this job including:
1. Distance to the farms and travel arrangements. As most applicants live in cities.
2. Length of contracts are short and have no employment protections.
3. Difficulty in reaching the required standard to even pick fruit and vegetables.
4. No flexibility in working hours.
5. Requirements to live onsite for the duration of the harvesting time.
Although well meaning, our good intentions highlight a serious problem with our workforce in doing manual labour.
I know us Brits are not lazy as some right wing media claim. The biggest problem is that there are major barriers due to Government austerity driven measures which have reduced the worth of British workers in manual jobs.
For example, working tax credits would have provided additional income to support British workers to do manual labour and provided the freedom from them to travel and work in different areas
It just show that after years of massive incompetence and short sightedness, when a crisis occurs our government is again ill equipped to lead us properly.
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Yes, every single person that voted for Brexit (that isn’t currently working) should be doing this because this is literally what they voted for. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Ive done picking work when I wad younger. Its not bad work if you dont mind being out in all weathers and you're prepared to live an itinerant lifestyle. Thing is most of the UK population dont live that way. We're mainly an urban society now. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"After the massive drive for native workers, It turns out that only a small number of natives are eligible to work in the fields.
Many have citied barriers to this job including:
1. Distance to the farms and travel arrangements. As most applicants live in cities.
2. Length of contracts are short and have no employment protections.
3. Difficulty in reaching the required standard to even pick fruit and vegetables.
4. No flexibility in working hours.
5. Requirements to live onsite for the duration of the harvesting time.
Although well meaning, our good intentions highlight a serious problem with our workforce in doing manual labour.
I know us Brits are not lazy as some right wing media claim. The biggest problem is that there are major barriers due to Government austerity driven measures which have reduced the worth of British workers in manual jobs.
For example, working tax credits would have provided additional income to support British workers to do manual labour and provided the freedom from them to travel and work in different areas
It just show that after years of massive incompetence and short sightedness, when a crisis occurs our government is again ill equipped to lead us properly.
Yes, every single person that voted for Brexit (that isn’t currently working) should be doing this because this is literally what they voted for."
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"If growers and producers want their crops harvested they need to be flexible and adjust their requirements. If they don’t - they lose their crops. Their choice .
If people want to work they need to be flexible and adjust their expectations. If they don’t - they don’t work . Don’t moan.
Good plan. Just ask the fruit to be flexible and not rot while it's not being picked.
#brexitbenefit"
It’s not being picked because the producers/growers are not being flexible enough in recruiting workers to pick their product.
If they want their product picked they would relax their requirements which makes the work more accessible to more people.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"If growers and producers want their crops harvested they need to be flexible and adjust their requirements. If they don’t - they lose their crops. Their choice .
If people want to work they need to be flexible and adjust their expectations. If they don’t - they don’t work . Don’t moan.
Good plan. Just ask the fruit to be flexible and not rot while it's not being picked.
#brexitbenefit
It’s not being picked because the producers/growers are not being flexible enough in recruiting workers to pick their product.
If they want their product picked they would relax their requirements which makes the work more accessible to more people.
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You reduce requirements you reduce quality in produce especially with our consumer driven preferences. So y out lead up with more food waste.
Ring wingers really do live in a world of make believe. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"After the massive drive for native workers, It turns out that only a small number of natives are eligible to work in the fields.
Many have citied barriers to this job including:
1. Distance to the farms and travel arrangements. As most applicants live in cities.
2. Length of contracts are short and have no employment protections.
3. Difficulty in reaching the required standard to even pick fruit and vegetables.
4. No flexibility in working hours.
5. Requirements to live onsite for the duration of the harvesting time.
Although well meaning, our good intentions highlight a serious problem with our workforce in doing manual labour.
I know us Brits are not lazy as some right wing media claim. The biggest problem is that there are major barriers due to Government austerity driven measures which have reduced the worth of British workers in manual jobs.
For example, working tax credits would have provided additional income to support British workers to do manual labour and provided the freedom from them to travel and work in different areas
It just show that after years of massive incompetence and short sightedness, when a crisis occurs our government is again ill equipped to lead us properly.
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You have failed to mention that we are in a transition phase and local people have applied for these positions as well.
Those flown in are to top up the supply and in addition are already experienced fruit pickers who may have previously worked for the farmers concerned.
I was unaware that it was the government's responsibility to provide fruit pickers to farmers.
The companies concerned have already shown that they are more than capable of organising pickers for their crops. The government have more important issues to address .
Well done to the companies concerned for taking the initiative. |
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"If growers and producers want their crops harvested they need to be flexible and adjust their requirements. If they don’t - they lose their crops. Their choice .
If people want to work they need to be flexible and adjust their expectations. If they don’t - they don’t work . Don’t moan.
Good plan. Just ask the fruit to be flexible and not rot while it's not being picked.
#brexitbenefit
It’s not being picked because the producers/growers are not being flexible enough in recruiting workers to pick their product.
If they want their product picked they would relax their requirements which makes the work more accessible to more people.
You reduce requirements you reduce quality in produce especially with our consumer driven preferences. So y out lead up with more food waste.
Ring wingers really do live in a world of make believe."
It’s picking fruit and veg ffs!
Growers stipulating requirements such as must live-in, 20miles too far away, no furlough workers, no flexible hours ....
If they want their crop harvested they need to make it as easy as possible to accept people who are ready and available to to work.
If they remain rigid in their requirements they can expect to have a field of waste . That’s their choice
Left or right makes not a jot of difference when - it’s common sense in running any kind of business . |
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"If growers and producers want their crops harvested they need to be flexible and adjust their requirements. If they don’t - they lose their crops. Their choice .
If people want to work they need to be flexible and adjust their expectations. If they don’t - they don’t work . Don’t moan.
Good plan. Just ask the fruit to be flexible and not rot while it's not being picked.
#brexitbenefit
It’s not being picked because the producers/growers are not being flexible enough in recruiting workers to pick their product.
If they want their product picked they would relax their requirements which makes the work more accessible to more people.
You reduce requirements you reduce quality in produce especially with our consumer driven preferences. So y out lead up with more food waste.
Ring wingers really do live in a world of make believe.
It’s picking fruit and veg ffs!
Growers stipulating requirements such as must live-in, 20miles too far away, no furlough workers, no flexible hours ....
If they want their crop harvested they need to make it as easy as possible to accept people who are ready and available to to work.
If they remain rigid in their requirements they can expect to have a field of waste . That’s their choice
Left or right makes not a jot of difference when - it’s common sense in running any kind of business ."
So just think for a moment. Why would they want to have people who live closer, no furlough workers, and why is picking time specific (IE they can't be as flexible with hours)?
Are these arbitrary rules, and if so, Why is it easier and cheaper for them to fly people in to do the work!
Is it simply because they haven't heard your "business advice". Or could there be more to it perhaps? |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
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Take it from me. Many farmers don't want local labour. They prefer workers who turn up on time, don't have their mobiles out every two minutes, don't moan that they've broken a nail, don't want a break every ten minutes, don't want to use the one chemical toilet and do want to put a shift in for the money.
That's why many farmers in my part of the world are turning to automation.
Harsh maybe but I'm afraid it's a fact. |
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"If growers and producers want their crops harvested they need to be flexible and adjust their requirements. If they don’t - they lose their crops. Their choice .
If people want to work they need to be flexible and adjust their expectations. If they don’t - they don’t work . Don’t moan.
Good plan. Just ask the fruit to be flexible and not rot while it's not being picked.
#brexitbenefit
It’s not being picked because the producers/growers are not being flexible enough in recruiting workers to pick their product.
If they want their product picked they would relax their requirements which makes the work more accessible to more people.
You reduce requirements you reduce quality in produce especially with our consumer driven preferences. So y out lead up with more food waste.
Ring wingers really do live in a world of make believe.
It’s picking fruit and veg ffs!
Growers stipulating requirements such as must live-in, 20miles too far away, no furlough workers, no flexible hours ....
If they want their crop harvested they need to make it as easy as possible to accept people who are ready and available to to work.
If they remain rigid in their requirements they can expect to have a field of waste . That’s their choice
Left or right makes not a jot of difference when - it’s common sense in running any kind of business .
So just think for a moment. Why would they want to have people who live closer, no furlough workers, and why is picking time specific (IE they can't be as flexible with hours)?
Are these arbitrary rules, and if so, Why is it easier and cheaper for them to fly people in to do the work!
Is it simply because they haven't heard your "business advice". Or could there be more to it perhaps? "
That’s fine - let the growers fly in workers - whatever it takes for them to get their product harvested .
Problem solved , what’s all the huffing and puffing about then?
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"Take it from me. Many farmers don't want local labour. They prefer workers who turn up on time, don't have their mobiles out every two minutes, don't moan that they've broken a nail, don't want a break every ten minutes, don't want to use the one chemical toilet and do want to put a shift in for the money.
That's why many farmers in my part of the world are turning to automation.
Harsh maybe but I'm afraid it's a fact. "
Cheeky bastards wanting
a break and needing to use the toilet. |
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"If growers and producers want their crops harvested they need to be flexible and adjust their requirements. If they don’t - they lose their crops. Their choice .
If people want to work they need to be flexible and adjust their expectations. If they don’t - they don’t work . Don’t moan.
Good plan. Just ask the fruit to be flexible and not rot while it's not being picked.
#brexitbenefit
It’s not being picked because the producers/growers are not being flexible enough in recruiting workers to pick their product.
If they want their product picked they would relax their requirements which makes the work more accessible to more people.
You reduce requirements you reduce quality in produce especially with our consumer driven preferences. So y out lead up with more food waste.
Ring wingers really do live in a world of make believe.
It’s picking fruit and veg ffs!
Growers stipulating requirements such as must live-in, 20miles too far away, no furlough workers, no flexible hours ....
If they want their crop harvested they need to make it as easy as possible to accept people who are ready and available to to work.
If they remain rigid in their requirements they can expect to have a field of waste . That’s their choice
Left or right makes not a jot of difference when - it’s common sense in running any kind of business .
So just think for a moment. Why would they want to have people who live closer, no furlough workers, and why is picking time specific (IE they can't be as flexible with hours)?
Are these arbitrary rules, and if so, Why is it easier and cheaper for them to fly people in to do the work!
Is it simply because they haven't heard your "business advice". Or could there be more to it perhaps?
That’s fine - let the growers fly in workers - whatever it takes for them to get their product harvested .
Problem solved , what’s all the huffing and puffing about then?
"
Lol. Make up your mind.
So you think it's perfectly sensible to vote for Brexit. Then have to fly people in specially to pick the fruit that is being left due to the lack of workforce caused by brexit?
I suppose it's as good a justification for voting leave as I've heard. |
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"If growers and producers want their crops harvested they need to be flexible and adjust their requirements. If they don’t - they lose their crops. Their choice .
If people want to work they need to be flexible and adjust their expectations. If they don’t - they don’t work . Don’t moan.
Good plan. Just ask the fruit to be flexible and not rot while it's not being picked.
#brexitbenefit
It’s not being picked because the producers/growers are not being flexible enough in recruiting workers to pick their product.
If they want their product picked they would relax their requirements which makes the work more accessible to more people.
You reduce requirements you reduce quality in produce especially with our consumer driven preferences. So y out lead up with more food waste.
Ring wingers really do live in a world of make believe.
It’s picking fruit and veg ffs!
Growers stipulating requirements such as must live-in, 20miles too far away, no furlough workers, no flexible hours ....
If they want their crop harvested they need to make it as easy as possible to accept people who are ready and available to to work.
If they remain rigid in their requirements they can expect to have a field of waste . That’s their choice
Left or right makes not a jot of difference when - it’s common sense in running any kind of business .
So just think for a moment. Why would they want to have people who live closer, no furlough workers, and why is picking time specific (IE they can't be as flexible with hours)?
Are these arbitrary rules, and if so, Why is it easier and cheaper for them to fly people in to do the work!
Is it simply because they haven't heard your "business advice". Or could there be more to it perhaps?
That’s fine - let the growers fly in workers - whatever it takes for them to get their product harvested .
Problem solved , what’s all the huffing and puffing about then?
Lol. Make up your mind.
So you think it's perfectly sensible to vote for Brexit. Then have to fly people in specially to pick the fruit that is being left due to the lack of workforce caused by brexit?
I suppose it's as good a justification for voting leave as I've heard. "
Talk about brexit all you want .
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"If growers and producers want their crops harvested they need to be flexible and adjust their requirements. If they don’t - they lose their crops. Their choice .
If people want to work they need to be flexible and adjust their expectations. If they don’t - they don’t work . Don’t moan.
Good plan. Just ask the fruit to be flexible and not rot while it's not being picked.
#brexitbenefit
It’s not being picked because the producers/growers are not being flexible enough in recruiting workers to pick their product.
If they want their product picked they would relax their requirements which makes the work more accessible to more people.
You reduce requirements you reduce quality in produce especially with our consumer driven preferences. So y out lead up with more food waste.
Ring wingers really do live in a world of make believe.
It’s picking fruit and veg ffs!
Growers stipulating requirements such as must live-in, 20miles too far away, no furlough workers, no flexible hours ....
If they want their crop harvested they need to make it as easy as possible to accept people who are ready and available to to work.
If they remain rigid in their requirements they can expect to have a field of waste . That’s their choice
Left or right makes not a jot of difference when - it’s common sense in running any kind of business .
So just think for a moment. Why would they want to have people who live closer, no furlough workers, and why is picking time specific (IE they can't be as flexible with hours)?
Are these arbitrary rules, and if so, Why is it easier and cheaper for them to fly people in to do the work!
Is it simply because they haven't heard your "business advice". Or could there be more to it perhaps?
That’s fine - let the growers fly in workers - whatever it takes for them to get their product harvested .
Problem solved , what’s all the huffing and puffing about then?
Lol. Make up your mind.
So you think it's perfectly sensible to vote for Brexit. Then have to fly people in specially to pick the fruit that is being left due to the lack of workforce caused by brexit?
I suppose it's as good a justification for voting leave as I've heard. "
The whole point was to be able to let who we want in,if there is a need for fruit pickers and we dont have enough import them whats wrong with that? its a win,win the fruit get picked they earn money they cant at home and when its all picked they can go home. |
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"If growers and producers want their crops harvested they need to be flexible and adjust their requirements. If they don’t - they lose their crops. Their choice .
If people want to work they need to be flexible and adjust their expectations. If they don’t - they don’t work . Don’t moan.
Good plan. Just ask the fruit to be flexible and not rot while it's not being picked.
#brexitbenefit
It’s not being picked because the producers/growers are not being flexible enough in recruiting workers to pick their product.
If they want their product picked they would relax their requirements which makes the work more accessible to more people.
You reduce requirements you reduce quality in produce especially with our consumer driven preferences. So y out lead up with more food waste.
Ring wingers really do live in a world of make believe.
It’s picking fruit and veg ffs!
Growers stipulating requirements such as must live-in, 20miles too far away, no furlough workers, no flexible hours ....
If they want their crop harvested they need to make it as easy as possible to accept people who are ready and available to to work.
If they remain rigid in their requirements they can expect to have a field of waste . That’s their choice
Left or right makes not a jot of difference when - it’s common sense in running any kind of business .
So just think for a moment. Why would they want to have people who live closer, no furlough workers, and why is picking time specific (IE they can't be as flexible with hours)?
Are these arbitrary rules, and if so, Why is it easier and cheaper for them to fly people in to do the work!
Is it simply because they haven't heard your "business advice". Or could there be more to it perhaps?
That’s fine - let the growers fly in workers - whatever it takes for them to get their product harvested .
Problem solved , what’s all the huffing and puffing about then?
Lol. Make up your mind.
So you think it's perfectly sensible to vote for Brexit. Then have to fly people in specially to pick the fruit that is being left due to the lack of workforce caused by brexit?
I suppose it's as good a justification for voting leave as I've heard. The whole point was to be able to let who we want in,if there is a need for fruit pickers and we dont have enough import them whats wrong with that? its a win,win the fruit get picked they earn money they cant at home and when its all picked they can go home."
Lolz.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"After the massive drive for native workers, It turns out that only a small number of natives are eligible to work in the fields.
Many have citied barriers to this job including:
1. Distance to the farms and travel arrangements. As most applicants live in cities.
2. Length of contracts are short and have no employment protections.
3. Difficulty in reaching the required standard to even pick fruit and vegetables.
4. No flexibility in working hours.
5. Requirements to live onsite for the duration of the harvesting time.
Although well meaning, our good intentions highlight a serious problem with our workforce in doing manual labour.
I know us Brits are not lazy as some right wing media claim. The biggest problem is that there are major barriers due to Government austerity driven measures which have reduced the worth of British workers in manual jobs.
For example, working tax credits would have provided additional income to support British workers to do manual labour and provided the freedom from them to travel and work in different areas
It just show that after years of massive incompetence and short sightedness, when a crisis occurs our government is again ill equipped to lead us properly.
You have failed to mention that we are in a transition phase and local people have applied for these positions as well.
Those flown in are to top up the supply and in addition are already experienced fruit pickers who may have previously worked for the farmers concerned.
I was unaware that it was the government's responsibility to provide fruit pickers to farmers.
The companies concerned have already shown that they are more than capable of organising pickers for their crops. The government have more important issues to address .
Well done to the companies concerned for taking the initiative. "
Local people are not going to make up the shortfall. You need people in the city. The government has failed over many years to increase mobility for workers.
Also because we are going gung ho for brexit the government needs to provide a level playing field for UK workers to do the manual jobs. If we don’t do that we cannot sort.
They started the incentive because they knew brexit would damage farming, therefore they should support people to do the work.
Our food supply is important. What’s the point of surviving the virus is we are going to starve because food was left to rot in the field, dumbo.
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"If growers and producers want their crops harvested they need to be flexible and adjust their requirements. If they don’t - they lose their crops. Their choice .
If people want to work they need to be flexible and adjust their expectations. If they don’t - they don’t work . Don’t moan.
Good plan. Just ask the fruit to be flexible and not rot while it's not being picked.
#brexitbenefit
It’s not being picked because the producers/growers are not being flexible enough in recruiting workers to pick their product.
If they want their product picked they would relax their requirements which makes the work more accessible to more people.
You reduce requirements you reduce quality in produce especially with our consumer driven preferences. So y out lead up with more food waste.
Ring wingers really do live in a world of make believe.
It’s picking fruit and veg ffs!
Growers stipulating requirements such as must live-in, 20miles too far away, no furlough workers, no flexible hours ....
If they want their crop harvested they need to make it as easy as possible to accept people who are ready and available to to work.
If they remain rigid in their requirements they can expect to have a field of waste . That’s their choice
Left or right makes not a jot of difference when - it’s common sense in running any kind of business .
So just think for a moment. Why would they want to have people who live closer, no furlough workers, and why is picking time specific (IE they can't be as flexible with hours)?
Are these arbitrary rules, and if so, Why is it easier and cheaper for them to fly people in to do the work!
Is it simply because they haven't heard your "business advice". Or could there be more to it perhaps?
That’s fine - let the growers fly in workers - whatever it takes for them to get their product harvested .
Problem solved , what’s all the huffing and puffing about then?
Lol. Make up your mind.
So you think it's perfectly sensible to vote for Brexit. Then have to fly people in specially to pick the fruit that is being left due to the lack of workforce caused by brexit?
I suppose it's as good a justification for voting leave as I've heard. The whole point was to be able to let who we want in,if there is a need for fruit pickers and we dont have enough import them whats wrong with that? its a win,win the fruit get picked they earn money they cant at home and when its all picked they can go home."
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"If growers and producers want their crops harvested they need to be flexible and adjust their requirements. If they don’t - they lose their crops. Their choice .
If people want to work they need to be flexible and adjust their expectations. If they don’t - they don’t work . Don’t moan.
Good plan. Just ask the fruit to be flexible and not rot while it's not being picked.
#brexitbenefit
It’s not being picked because the producers/growers are not being flexible enough in recruiting workers to pick their product.
If they want their product picked they would relax their requirements which makes the work more accessible to more people.
You reduce requirements you reduce quality in produce especially with our consumer driven preferences. So y out lead up with more food waste.
Ring wingers really do live in a world of make believe.
It’s picking fruit and veg ffs!
Growers stipulating requirements such as must live-in, 20miles too far away, no furlough workers, no flexible hours ....
If they want their crop harvested they need to make it as easy as possible to accept people who are ready and available to to work.
If they remain rigid in their requirements they can expect to have a field of waste . That’s their choice
Left or right makes not a jot of difference when - it’s common sense in running any kind of business .
So just think for a moment. Why would they want to have people who live closer, no furlough workers, and why is picking time specific (IE they can't be as flexible with hours)?
Are these arbitrary rules, and if so, Why is it easier and cheaper for them to fly people in to do the work!
Is it simply because they haven't heard your "business advice". Or could there be more to it perhaps?
That’s fine - let the growers fly in workers - whatever it takes for them to get their product harvested .
Problem solved , what’s all the huffing and puffing about then?
Lol. Make up your mind.
So you think it's perfectly sensible to vote for Brexit. Then have to fly people in specially to pick the fruit that is being left due to the lack of workforce caused by brexit?
I suppose it's as good a justification for voting leave as I've heard. The whole point was to be able to let who we want in,if there is a need for fruit pickers and we dont have enough import them whats wrong with that? its a win,win the fruit get picked they earn money they cant at home and when its all picked they can go home.
Lolz.
Still believe in that old lie about "controlling the borders"?"
Well it wont be a lie will it? people will still come to work if we need them and they need work cant see a problem with that myself. |
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"If growers and producers want their crops harvested they need to be flexible and adjust their requirements. If they don’t - they lose their crops. Their choice .
If people want to work they need to be flexible and adjust their expectations. If they don’t - they don’t work . Don’t moan.
Good plan. Just ask the fruit to be flexible and not rot while it's not being picked.
#brexitbenefit
It’s not being picked because the producers/growers are not being flexible enough in recruiting workers to pick their product.
If they want their product picked they would relax their requirements which makes the work more accessible to more people.
You reduce requirements you reduce quality in produce especially with our consumer driven preferences. So y out lead up with more food waste.
Ring wingers really do live in a world of make believe.
It’s picking fruit and veg ffs!
Growers stipulating requirements such as must live-in, 20miles too far away, no furlough workers, no flexible hours ....
If they want their crop harvested they need to make it as easy as possible to accept people who are ready and available to to work.
If they remain rigid in their requirements they can expect to have a field of waste . That’s their choice
Left or right makes not a jot of difference when - it’s common sense in running any kind of business ."
So you’re blaming farmers then for not being so tight assed, business is about quality of product, you sell shit you lose money. That’s business 101!
Again right wing naivety on a complex subject, you’ve got all the big ideas! |
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"If growers and producers want their crops harvested they need to be flexible and adjust their requirements. If they don’t - they lose their crops. Their choice .
If people want to work they need to be flexible and adjust their expectations. If they don’t - they don’t work . Don’t moan.
Good plan. Just ask the fruit to be flexible and not rot while it's not being picked.
#brexitbenefit
It’s not being picked because the producers/growers are not being flexible enough in recruiting workers to pick their product.
If they want their product picked they would relax their requirements which makes the work more accessible to more people.
You reduce requirements you reduce quality in produce especially with our consumer driven preferences. So y out lead up with more food waste.
Ring wingers really do live in a world of make believe.
It’s picking fruit and veg ffs!
Growers stipulating requirements such as must live-in, 20miles too far away, no furlough workers, no flexible hours ....
If they want their crop harvested they need to make it as easy as possible to accept people who are ready and available to to work.
If they remain rigid in their requirements they can expect to have a field of waste . That’s their choice
Left or right makes not a jot of difference when - it’s common sense in running any kind of business .
So you’re blaming farmers then for not being so tight assed, business is about quality of product, you sell shit you lose money. That’s business 101!
Again right wing naivety on a complex subject, you’ve got all the big ideas! "
Farmers going to lose a hell of a lot more if he doesn’t get any of his crop harvested |
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"Take it from me. Many farmers don't want local labour. They prefer workers who turn up on time, don't have their mobiles out every two minutes, don't moan that they've broken a nail, don't want a break every ten minutes, don't want to use the one chemical toilet and do want to put a shift in for the money.
That's why many farmers in my part of the world are turning to automation.
Harsh maybe but I'm afraid it's a fact. "
No merc, they are turning to foreign workers who work like robots.
You fail to realise this is the typical DM bs that all workers are lazy. It’s not true! |
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"If growers and producers want their crops harvested they need to be flexible and adjust their requirements. If they don’t - they lose their crops. Their choice .
If people want to work they need to be flexible and adjust their expectations. If they don’t - they don’t work . Don’t moan.
Good plan. Just ask the fruit to be flexible and not rot while it's not being picked.
#brexitbenefit
It’s not being picked because the producers/growers are not being flexible enough in recruiting workers to pick their product.
If they want their product picked they would relax their requirements which makes the work more accessible to more people.
You reduce requirements you reduce quality in produce especially with our consumer driven preferences. So y out lead up with more food waste.
Ring wingers really do live in a world of make believe.
It’s picking fruit and veg ffs!
Growers stipulating requirements such as must live-in, 20miles too far away, no furlough workers, no flexible hours ....
If they want their crop harvested they need to make it as easy as possible to accept people who are ready and available to to work.
If they remain rigid in their requirements they can expect to have a field of waste . That’s their choice
Left or right makes not a jot of difference when - it’s common sense in running any kind of business .
So you’re blaming farmers then for not being so tight assed, business is about quality of product, you sell shit you lose money. That’s business 101!
Again right wing naivety on a complex subject, you’ve got all the big ideas!
Farmers going to lose a hell of a lot more if he doesn’t get any of his crop harvested"
If only there was a workforce who were free to travel here (at their own expense) for the seasonal work from neighbouring countries. That would work. |
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"If growers and producers want their crops harvested they need to be flexible and adjust their requirements. If they don’t - they lose their crops. Their choice .
If people want to work they need to be flexible and adjust their expectations. If they don’t - they don’t work . Don’t moan.
Good plan. Just ask the fruit to be flexible and not rot while it's not being picked.
#brexitbenefit
It’s not being picked because the producers/growers are not being flexible enough in recruiting workers to pick their product.
If they want their product picked they would relax their requirements which makes the work more accessible to more people.
You reduce requirements you reduce quality in produce especially with our consumer driven preferences. So y out lead up with more food waste.
Ring wingers really do live in a world of make believe.
It’s picking fruit and veg ffs!
Growers stipulating requirements such as must live-in, 20miles too far away, no furlough workers, no flexible hours ....
If they want their crop harvested they need to make it as easy as possible to accept people who are ready and available to to work.
If they remain rigid in their requirements they can expect to have a field of waste . That’s their choice
Left or right makes not a jot of difference when - it’s common sense in running any kind of business .
So just think for a moment. Why would they want to have people who live closer, no furlough workers, and why is picking time specific (IE they can't be as flexible with hours)?
Are these arbitrary rules, and if so, Why is it easier and cheaper for them to fly people in to do the work!
Is it simply because they haven't heard your "business advice". Or could there be more to it perhaps?
That’s fine - let the growers fly in workers - whatever it takes for them to get their product harvested .
Problem solved , what’s all the huffing and puffing about then?
Lol. Make up your mind.
So you think it's perfectly sensible to vote for Brexit. Then have to fly people in specially to pick the fruit that is being left due to the lack of workforce caused by brexit?
I suppose it's as good a justification for voting leave as I've heard. The whole point was to be able to let who we want in,if there is a need for fruit pickers and we dont have enough import them whats wrong with that? its a win,win the fruit get picked they earn money they cant at home and when its all picked they can go home."
I don’t see many Nordic people coming to this country to pick out fruit and veg.
It’s the people that have been routinely demonised by the right wing media to get brexit. you all been played like fiddles,
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"If growers and producers want their crops harvested they need to be flexible and adjust their requirements. If they don’t - they lose their crops. Their choice .
If people want to work they need to be flexible and adjust their expectations. If they don’t - they don’t work . Don’t moan.
Good plan. Just ask the fruit to be flexible and not rot while it's not being picked.
#brexitbenefit
It’s not being picked because the producers/growers are not being flexible enough in recruiting workers to pick their product.
If they want their product picked they would relax their requirements which makes the work more accessible to more people.
You reduce requirements you reduce quality in produce especially with our consumer driven preferences. So y out lead up with more food waste.
Ring wingers really do live in a world of make believe.
It’s picking fruit and veg ffs!
Growers stipulating requirements such as must live-in, 20miles too far away, no furlough workers, no flexible hours ....
If they want their crop harvested they need to make it as easy as possible to accept people who are ready and available to to work.
If they remain rigid in their requirements they can expect to have a field of waste . That’s their choice
Left or right makes not a jot of difference when - it’s common sense in running any kind of business .
So you’re blaming farmers then for not being so tight assed, business is about quality of product, you sell shit you lose money. That’s business 101!
Again right wing naivety on a complex subject, you’ve got all the big ideas!
Farmers going to lose a hell of a lot more if he doesn’t get any of his crop harvested"
Well the government should fucking provide incentives to workers doing their national duty then! |
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"If growers and producers want their crops harvested they need to be flexible and adjust their requirements. If they don’t - they lose their crops. Their choice .
If people want to work they need to be flexible and adjust their expectations. If they don’t - they don’t work . Don’t moan.
Good plan. Just ask the fruit to be flexible and not rot while it's not being picked.
#brexitbenefit
It’s not being picked because the producers/growers are not being flexible enough in recruiting workers to pick their product.
If they want their product picked they would relax their requirements which makes the work more accessible to more people.
You reduce requirements you reduce quality in produce especially with our consumer driven preferences. So y out lead up with more food waste.
Ring wingers really do live in a world of make believe.
It’s picking fruit and veg ffs!
Growers stipulating requirements such as must live-in, 20miles too far away, no furlough workers, no flexible hours ....
If they want their crop harvested they need to make it as easy as possible to accept people who are ready and available to to work.
If they remain rigid in their requirements they can expect to have a field of waste . That’s their choice
Left or right makes not a jot of difference when - it’s common sense in running any kind of business .
So you’re blaming farmers then for not being so tight assed, business is about quality of product, you sell shit you lose money. That’s business 101!
Again right wing naivety on a complex subject, you’ve got all the big ideas!
Farmers going to lose a hell of a lot more if he doesn’t get any of his crop harvested
If only there was a workforce who were free to travel here (at their own expense) for the seasonal work from neighbouring countries. That would work."
They are so naive they won’t recognise that fact! |
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"If growers and producers want their crops harvested they need to be flexible and adjust their requirements. If they don’t - they lose their crops. Their choice .
If people want to work they need to be flexible and adjust their expectations. If they don’t - they don’t work . Don’t moan.
Good plan. Just ask the fruit to be flexible and not rot while it's not being picked.
#brexitbenefit
It’s not being picked because the producers/growers are not being flexible enough in recruiting workers to pick their product.
If they want their product picked they would relax their requirements which makes the work more accessible to more people.
You reduce requirements you reduce quality in produce especially with our consumer driven preferences. So y out lead up with more food waste.
Ring wingers really do live in a world of make believe.
It’s picking fruit and veg ffs!
Growers stipulating requirements such as must live-in, 20miles too far away, no furlough workers, no flexible hours ....
If they want their crop harvested they need to make it as easy as possible to accept people who are ready and available to to work.
If they remain rigid in their requirements they can expect to have a field of waste . That’s their choice
Left or right makes not a jot of difference when - it’s common sense in running any kind of business .
So you’re blaming farmers then for not being so tight assed, business is about quality of product, you sell shit you lose money. That’s business 101!
Again right wing naivety on a complex subject, you’ve got all the big ideas!
Farmers going to lose a hell of a lot more if he doesn’t get any of his crop harvested
Well the government should fucking provide incentives to workers doing their national duty then! "
What national duty?what workers? |
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"If growers and producers want their crops harvested they need to be flexible and adjust their requirements. If they don’t - they lose their crops. Their choice .
If people want to work they need to be flexible and adjust their expectations. If they don’t - they don’t work . Don’t moan.
Good plan. Just ask the fruit to be flexible and not rot while it's not being picked.
#brexitbenefit
It’s not being picked because the producers/growers are not being flexible enough in recruiting workers to pick their product.
If they want their product picked they would relax their requirements which makes the work more accessible to more people.
You reduce requirements you reduce quality in produce especially with our consumer driven preferences. So y out lead up with more food waste.
Ring wingers really do live in a world of make believe.
It’s picking fruit and veg ffs!
Growers stipulating requirements such as must live-in, 20miles too far away, no furlough workers, no flexible hours ....
If they want their crop harvested they need to make it as easy as possible to accept people who are ready and available to to work.
If they remain rigid in their requirements they can expect to have a field of waste . That’s their choice
Left or right makes not a jot of difference when - it’s common sense in running any kind of business .
So you’re blaming farmers then for not being so tight assed, business is about quality of product, you sell shit you lose money. That’s business 101!
Again right wing naivety on a complex subject, you’ve got all the big ideas!
Farmers going to lose a hell of a lot more if he doesn’t get any of his crop harvested
If only there was a workforce who were free to travel here (at their own expense) for the seasonal work from neighbouring countries. That would work.
They are so naive they won’t recognise that fact! "
Your OP is substantially pointless then. |
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"God I hate all this division.
It’s very sad. 
You do? Would you like a warm blanket and a mug of coco?"
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"God I hate all this division.
It’s very sad.
You do? Would you like a warm blanket and a mug of coco?"
Take it you don’t then with a sarcy reply like that?
No thanks on the cocoa. Just an end to division and people to be nice. |
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"God I hate all this division.
It’s very sad.
You do? Would you like a warm blanket and a mug of coco?
No, I'm fine thanks but it appears you need one. Might help you loose some of that anger "
If you're not angry, you're not paying attention. |
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"God I hate all this division.
It’s very sad.
You do? Would you like a warm blanket and a mug of coco?
Take it you don’t then with a sarcy reply like that?
No thanks on the cocoa. Just an end to division and people to be nice. "
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"Take it from me. Many farmers don't want local labour. They prefer workers who turn up on time, don't have their mobiles out every two minutes, don't moan that they've broken a nail, don't want a break every ten minutes, don't want to use the one chemical toilet and do want to put a shift in for the money.
That's why many farmers in my part of the world are turning to automation.
Harsh maybe but I'm afraid it's a fact.
Cheeky bastards wanting
a break and needing to use the toilet."
Next thing they'll be wanting a proper wage, and sleep too !! |
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"Take it from me. Many farmers don't want local labour. They prefer workers who turn up on time, don't have their mobiles out every two minutes, don't moan that they've broken a nail, don't want a break every ten minutes, don't want to use the one chemical toilet and do want to put a shift in for the money.
That's why many farmers in my part of the world are turning to automation.
Harsh maybe but I'm afraid it's a fact.
Cheeky bastards wanting
a break and needing to use the toilet.
Next thing they'll be wanting a proper wage, and sleep too !!"
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over a year ago
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"After the massive drive for native workers, It turns out that only a small number of natives are eligible to work in the fields.
Many have citied barriers to this job including:
1. Distance to the farms and travel arrangements. As most applicants live in cities.
2. Length of contracts are short and have no employment protections.
3. Difficulty in reaching the required standard to even pick fruit and vegetables.
4. No flexibility in working hours.
5. Requirements to live onsite for the duration of the harvesting time.
Although well meaning, our good intentions highlight a serious problem with our workforce in doing manual labour.
I know us Brits are not lazy as some right wing media claim. The biggest problem is that there are major barriers due to Government austerity driven measures which have reduced the worth of British workers in manual jobs.
For example, working tax credits would have provided additional income to support British workers to do manual labour and provided the freedom from them to travel and work in different areas
It just show that after years of massive incompetence and short sightedness, when a crisis occurs our government is again ill equipped to lead us properly.
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"If growers and producers want their crops harvested they need to be flexible and adjust their requirements. If they don’t - they lose their crops. Their choice .
If people want to work they need to be flexible and adjust their expectations. If they don’t - they don’t work . Don’t moan.
Good plan. Just ask the fruit to be flexible and not rot while it's not being picked.
#brexitbenefit
It’s not being picked because the producers/growers are not being flexible enough in recruiting workers to pick their product.
If they want their product picked they would relax their requirements which makes the work more accessible to more people.
You reduce requirements you reduce quality in produce especially with our consumer driven preferences. So y out lead up with more food waste.
Ring wingers really do live in a world of make believe.
It’s picking fruit and veg ffs!
Growers stipulating requirements such as must live-in, 20miles too far away, no furlough workers, no flexible hours ....
If they want their crop harvested they need to make it as easy as possible to accept people who are ready and available to to work.
If they remain rigid in their requirements they can expect to have a field of waste . That’s their choice
Left or right makes not a jot of difference when - it’s common sense in running any kind of business .
So you’re blaming farmers then for not being so tight assed, business is about quality of product, you sell shit you lose money. That’s business 101!
Again right wing naivety on a complex subject, you’ve got all the big ideas!
Farmers going to lose a hell of a lot more if he doesn’t get any of his crop harvested
Well the government should fucking provide incentives to workers doing their national duty then! "
NO the government should not people have to get of there lazy arses |
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"If growers and producers want their crops harvested they need to be flexible and adjust their requirements. If they don’t - they lose their crops. Their choice .
If people want to work they need to be flexible and adjust their expectations. If they don’t - they don’t work . Don’t moan.
Good plan. Just ask the fruit to be flexible and not rot while it's not being picked.
#brexitbenefit
It’s not being picked because the producers/growers are not being flexible enough in recruiting workers to pick their product.
If they want their product picked they would relax their requirements which makes the work more accessible to more people.
You reduce requirements you reduce quality in produce especially with our consumer driven preferences. So y out lead up with more food waste.
Ring wingers really do live in a world of make believe.
It’s picking fruit and veg ffs!
Growers stipulating requirements such as must live-in, 20miles too far away, no furlough workers, no flexible hours ....
If they want their crop harvested they need to make it as easy as possible to accept people who are ready and available to to work.
If they remain rigid in their requirements they can expect to have a field of waste . That’s their choice
Left or right makes not a jot of difference when - it’s common sense in running any kind of business .
So you’re blaming farmers then for not being so tight assed, business is about quality of product, you sell shit you lose money. That’s business 101!
Again right wing naivety on a complex subject, you’ve got all the big ideas!
Farmers going to lose a hell of a lot more if he doesn’t get any of his crop harvested
Well the government should fucking provide incentives to workers doing their national duty then! NO the government should not people have to get of there lazy arses"
Which people? |
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"If growers and producers want their crops harvested they need to be flexible and adjust their requirements. If they don’t - they lose their crops. Their choice .
If people want to work they need to be flexible and adjust their expectations. If they don’t - they don’t work . Don’t moan.
Good plan. Just ask the fruit to be flexible and not rot while it's not being picked.
#brexitbenefit
It’s not being picked because the producers/growers are not being flexible enough in recruiting workers to pick their product.
If they want their product picked they would relax their requirements which makes the work more accessible to more people.
You reduce requirements you reduce quality in produce especially with our consumer driven preferences. So y out lead up with more food waste.
Ring wingers really do live in a world of make believe.
It’s picking fruit and veg ffs!
Growers stipulating requirements such as must live-in, 20miles too far away, no furlough workers, no flexible hours ....
If they want their crop harvested they need to make it as easy as possible to accept people who are ready and available to to work.
If they remain rigid in their requirements they can expect to have a field of waste . That’s their choice
Left or right makes not a jot of difference when - it’s common sense in running any kind of business .
So you’re blaming farmers then for not being so tight assed, business is about quality of product, you sell shit you lose money. That’s business 101!
Again right wing naivety on a complex subject, you’ve got all the big ideas!
Farmers going to lose a hell of a lot more if he doesn’t get any of his crop harvested
Well the government should fucking provide incentives to workers doing their national duty then! NO the government should not people have to get of there lazy arses
Which people?"
Lazy left wingers I assume. |
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"If growers and producers want their crops harvested they need to be flexible and adjust their requirements. If they don’t - they lose their crops. Their choice .
If people want to work they need to be flexible and adjust their expectations. If they don’t - they don’t work . Don’t moan.
Good plan. Just ask the fruit to be flexible and not rot while it's not being picked.
#brexitbenefit
It’s not being picked because the producers/growers are not being flexible enough in recruiting workers to pick their product.
If they want their product picked they would relax their requirements which makes the work more accessible to more people.
You reduce requirements you reduce quality in produce especially with our consumer driven preferences. So y out lead up with more food waste.
Ring wingers really do live in a world of make believe.
It’s picking fruit and veg ffs!
Growers stipulating requirements such as must live-in, 20miles too far away, no furlough workers, no flexible hours ....
If they want their crop harvested they need to make it as easy as possible to accept people who are ready and available to to work.
If they remain rigid in their requirements they can expect to have a field of waste . That’s their choice
Left or right makes not a jot of difference when - it’s common sense in running any kind of business .
So you’re blaming farmers then for not being so tight assed, business is about quality of product, you sell shit you lose money. That’s business 101!
Again right wing naivety on a complex subject, you’ve got all the big ideas!
Farmers going to lose a hell of a lot more if he doesn’t get any of his crop harvested
Well the government should fucking provide incentives to workers doing their national duty then! NO the government should not people have to get of there lazy arses
Which people?
Lazy left wingers I assume. "
Lazy commies |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"If growers and producers want their crops harvested they need to be flexible and adjust their requirements. If they don’t - they lose their crops. Their choice .
If people want to work they need to be flexible and adjust their expectations. If they don’t - they don’t work . Don’t moan.
Good plan. Just ask the fruit to be flexible and not rot while it's not being picked.
#brexitbenefit
It’s not being picked because the producers/growers are not being flexible enough in recruiting workers to pick their product.
If they want their product picked they would relax their requirements which makes the work more accessible to more people.
You reduce requirements you reduce quality in produce especially with our consumer driven preferences. So y out lead up with more food waste.
Ring wingers really do live in a world of make believe.
It’s picking fruit and veg ffs!
Growers stipulating requirements such as must live-in, 20miles too far away, no furlough workers, no flexible hours ....
If they want their crop harvested they need to make it as easy as possible to accept people who are ready and available to to work.
If they remain rigid in their requirements they can expect to have a field of waste . That’s their choice
Left or right makes not a jot of difference when - it’s common sense in running any kind of business .
So you’re blaming farmers then for not being so tight assed, business is about quality of product, you sell shit you lose money. That’s business 101!
Again right wing naivety on a complex subject, you’ve got all the big ideas!
Farmers going to lose a hell of a lot more if he doesn’t get any of his crop harvested
Well the government should fucking provide incentives to workers doing their national duty then! NO the government should not people have to get of there lazy arses
Which people?
Lazy left wingers I assume.
Lazy commies"
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"If growers and producers want their crops harvested they need to be flexible and adjust their requirements. If they don’t - they lose their crops. Their choice .
If people want to work they need to be flexible and adjust their expectations. If they don’t - they don’t work . Don’t moan.
Good plan. Just ask the fruit to be flexible and not rot while it's not being picked.
#brexitbenefit
It’s not being picked because the producers/growers are not being flexible enough in recruiting workers to pick their product.
If they want their product picked they would relax their requirements which makes the work more accessible to more people.
You reduce requirements you reduce quality in produce especially with our consumer driven preferences. So y out lead up with more food waste.
Ring wingers really do live in a world of make believe.
It’s picking fruit and veg ffs!
Growers stipulating requirements such as must live-in, 20miles too far away, no furlough workers, no flexible hours ....
If they want their crop harvested they need to make it as easy as possible to accept people who are ready and available to to work.
If they remain rigid in their requirements they can expect to have a field of waste . That’s their choice
Left or right makes not a jot of difference when - it’s common sense in running any kind of business .
So you’re blaming farmers then for not being so tight assed, business is about quality of product, you sell shit you lose money. That’s business 101!
Again right wing naivety on a complex subject, you’ve got all the big ideas!
Farmers going to lose a hell of a lot more if he doesn’t get any of his crop harvested
Well the government should fucking provide incentives to workers doing their national duty then! NO the government should not people have to get of there lazy arses
Which people?
Lazy left wingers I assume.
Lazy commieslazy rich to students to"
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"If growers and producers want their crops harvested they need to be flexible and adjust their requirements. If they don’t - they lose their crops. Their choice .
If people want to work they need to be flexible and adjust their expectations. If they don’t - they don’t work . Don’t moan.
Good plan. Just ask the fruit to be flexible and not rot while it's not being picked.
#brexitbenefit
It’s not being picked because the producers/growers are not being flexible enough in recruiting workers to pick their product.
If they want their product picked they would relax their requirements which makes the work more accessible to more people.
You reduce requirements you reduce quality in produce especially with our consumer driven preferences. So y out lead up with more food waste.
Ring wingers really do live in a world of make believe.
It’s picking fruit and veg ffs!
Growers stipulating requirements such as must live-in, 20miles too far away, no furlough workers, no flexible hours ....
If they want their crop harvested they need to make it as easy as possible to accept people who are ready and available to to work.
If they remain rigid in their requirements they can expect to have a field of waste . That’s their choice
Left or right makes not a jot of difference when - it’s common sense in running any kind of business .
So you’re blaming farmers then for not being so tight assed, business is about quality of product, you sell shit you lose money. That’s business 101!
Again right wing naivety on a complex subject, you’ve got all the big ideas!
Farmers going to lose a hell of a lot more if he doesn’t get any of his crop harvested
Well the government should fucking provide incentives to workers doing their national duty then! NO the government should not people have to get of there lazy arses
Which people?
Lazy left wingers I assume.
Lazy commieslazy rich to students to"
Foxtrot Oscar to that. UK workers and students are not lazy, have you been hiding in a cave recently? Are you deliberately being intellectually challenged or what? |
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"On a program a farmer needed help and put up a work leaflet and out of 10 who applied only 1 brit and the rest was from the eu, it sais alot."
There will be alot of vegetables that will rot in the fields without the eu workers.
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"If growers and producers want their crops harvested they need to be flexible and adjust their requirements. If they don’t - they lose their crops. Their choice .
If people want to work they need to be flexible and adjust their expectations. If they don’t - they don’t work . Don’t moan.
Good plan. Just ask the fruit to be flexible and not rot while it's not being picked.
#brexitbenefit
It’s not being picked because the producers/growers are not being flexible enough in recruiting workers to pick their product.
If they want their product picked they would relax their requirements which makes the work more accessible to more people.
You reduce requirements you reduce quality in produce especially with our consumer driven preferences. So y out lead up with more food waste.
Ring wingers really do live in a world of make believe.
It’s picking fruit and veg ffs!
Growers stipulating requirements such as must live-in, 20miles too far away, no furlough workers, no flexible hours ....
If they want their crop harvested they need to make it as easy as possible to accept people who are ready and available to to work.
If they remain rigid in their requirements they can expect to have a field of waste . That’s their choice
Left or right makes not a jot of difference when - it’s common sense in running any kind of business ."
Why should they, when they can get a workforce from another country. Without being flexible at all. |
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"If growers and producers want their crops harvested they need to be flexible and adjust their requirements. If they don’t - they lose their crops. Their choice .
If people want to work they need to be flexible and adjust their expectations. If they don’t - they don’t work . Don’t moan.
Good plan. Just ask the fruit to be flexible and not rot while it's not being picked.
#brexitbenefit
It’s not being picked because the producers/growers are not being flexible enough in recruiting workers to pick their product.
If they want their product picked they would relax their requirements which makes the work more accessible to more people.
You reduce requirements you reduce quality in produce especially with our consumer driven preferences. So y out lead up with more food waste.
Ring wingers really do live in a world of make believe.
It’s picking fruit and veg ffs!
Growers stipulating requirements such as must live-in, 20miles too far away, no furlough workers, no flexible hours ....
If they want their crop harvested they need to make it as easy as possible to accept people who are ready and available to to work.
If they remain rigid in their requirements they can expect to have a field of waste . That’s their choice
Left or right makes not a jot of difference when - it’s common sense in running any kind of business .
Why should they, when they can get a workforce from another country. Without being flexible at all."
Some of the millions of British workers furloughed during the coronavirus lockdown will be encouraged to take a second job picking fruit and vegetables, the government has said.
Giving the daily COVID-19 briefing, Environment Secretary George Eustice said only a third of the migrant labour needed to help carry out such tasks was in the country.
Although the international food chain was continuing to "work well", Mr Eustice said he expected there would be a need to recruit staff in the UK to harvest crops in the coming weeks.
"We're also acutely aware that we're about to start the British season in fresh produce, in soft fruits and salads.
"We estimate that probably only about a third of the migrant labour that would normally come to the UK is here, and was probably here before lockdown. |
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"If growers and producers want their crops harvested they need to be flexible and adjust their requirements. If they don’t - they lose their crops. Their choice .
If people want to work they need to be flexible and adjust their expectations. If they don’t - they don’t work . Don’t moan.
Good plan. Just ask the fruit to be flexible and not rot while it's not being picked.
#brexitbenefit
It’s not being picked because the producers/growers are not being flexible enough in recruiting workers to pick their product.
If they want their product picked they would relax their requirements which makes the work more accessible to more people.
You reduce requirements you reduce quality in produce especially with our consumer driven preferences. So y out lead up with more food waste.
Ring wingers really do live in a world of make believe.
It’s picking fruit and veg ffs!
Growers stipulating requirements such as must live-in, 20miles too far away, no furlough workers, no flexible hours ....
If they want their crop harvested they need to make it as easy as possible to accept people who are ready and available to to work.
If they remain rigid in their requirements they can expect to have a field of waste . That’s their choice
Left or right makes not a jot of difference when - it’s common sense in running any kind of business .
Why should they, when they can get a workforce from another country. Without being flexible at all.
Some of the millions of British workers furloughed during the coronavirus lockdown will be encouraged to take a second job picking fruit and vegetables, the government has said.
Giving the daily COVID-19 briefing, Environment Secretary George Eustice said only a third of the migrant labour needed to help carry out such tasks was in the country.
Although the international food chain was continuing to "work well", Mr Eustice said he expected there would be a need to recruit staff in the UK to harvest crops in the coming weeks.
"We're also acutely aware that we're about to start the British season in fresh produce, in soft fruits and salads.
"We estimate that probably only about a third of the migrant labour that would normally come to the UK is here, and was probably here before lockdown."
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it suites the farmers to have pickers from poorer countries to do the work. The pickers pay an agency anything from 500 to 750 which includes their air fare, they also pay for their own accommodation, in accommodation that has been chosen for them. which means if they don't do as they are told then not only do they lose their job but also their accommodation. it's also not unusual for workers to be laid off mid contract to be told there's not enough work for them, only then to be replaced by new workers. which means more money for the agencies. It's also well known some of the farmers (growers) get a back hander from the agency's for providing the work and from the landlords for providing them with regular tenants, also from transport companies for ferrying the workers around. The growers have their their fingers in lots of pies. Lots of pies they wouldn't be able to put their fingers in if they had to use local labour. |
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