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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I was suprised, I was expecting a guilty verdict.
But if it is true and all these allegations were made up by these women then they should be all be jailed for life for trying to destroy Salmond. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Technically, Alex Salmond - found not guilty.
That's entirely different from him being innocent. "
Yes but the law is innocent until proven guilty.Its not a perfect system but better than the alternative
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By *ndy64hMan
over a year ago
Plymouth |
"I suppose it has to be beyond reasonable doubt. But all you have to do is look at the odds of anyone wanting to sleep with Alex Salmond of there own free will.
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I think most of us have probably been with worse. |
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"I was suprised, I was expecting a guilty verdict.
But if it is true and all these allegations were made up by these women then they should be all be jailed for life for trying to destroy Salmond."
The pig is well know for being a sleaze ball |
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"I was suprised, I was expecting a guilty verdict.
But if it is true and all these allegations were made up by these women then they should be all be jailed for life for trying to destroy Salmond. The pig is well know for being a sleaze ball"
I bet he was glad people like you where not on the jury |
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"I was suprised, I was expecting a guilty verdict.
But if it is true and all these allegations were made up by these women then they should be all be jailed for life for trying to destroy Salmond."
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Why would they make it up?. A sad day for females."
hang on a minute. loads of men get labelled and have false allegations made against them.
lives are destroyed before many even get to court to have a trial.
the press, you, have already made youre mind up without knowing alex salmond or knowing any of the people making accusations against him.
some could have been cock teasers and money chasers but you don't want to hear that.
you just want to damn a man EVEN after a court of fair men and women listened to all the evidence from both sides.
he may have indeed at some point acted in a way deemed to be inappropriate but the jury cleared him.
he maybe chased privately threw the courts again for damages because the accused are not satisfied with the verdict.
if there was enough clear evidence of wrong doing he would of been found guilty regardless of who he is or in Salmonds case Was!.
this is not a sad day for women at all.
its only a sad day for you because you cannot spit out your bile at a man for a verdict you do not like.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"12 cases - not guilty
1 case - not proven (which is not the same as not guilty)
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Bullshit
educate yourself
The not proven verdict is an unusual and highly controversial feature of the Scottish legal system which in practice is exactly the same as a verdict of not guilty
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what part of - exactly the same as a verdict of not guilty - do you not understand  |
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Not at all. I listened to the trial and felt the evidence against him was not in his favour. I also know someone who works for the Scottish parliment who told me long before he was accused that it was an unwritten rule that females were not be left alone with him. But as you said he is innocent so does not matter what i think about him now. He is a free man. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Why would they make it up?. A sad day for females.
hang on a minute. loads of men get labelled and have false allegations made against them.
lives are destroyed before many even get to court to have a trial.
the press, you, have already made youre mind up without knowing alex salmond or knowing any of the people making accusations against him.
some could have been cock teasers and money chasers but you don't want to hear that.
you just want to damn a man EVEN after a court of fair men and women listened to all the evidence from both sides.
he may have indeed at some point acted in a way deemed to be inappropriate but the jury cleared him.
he maybe chased privately threw the courts again for damages because the accused are not satisfied with the verdict.
if there was enough clear evidence of wrong doing he would of been found guilty regardless of who he is or in Salmonds case Was!.
this is not a sad day for women at all.
its only a sad day for you because you cannot spit out your bile at a man for a verdict you do not like.
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excellent reply, |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Not at all. I listened to the trial and felt the evidence against him was not in his favour. I also know someone who works for the Scottish parliment who told me long before he was accused that it was an unwritten rule that females were not be left alone with him. But as you said he is innocent so does not matter what i think about him now. He is a free man."
never believe all you are told
never presume. |
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By *hav02Man
over a year ago
Glasgow/London |
I was surprised by the verdict, but while technically "not guilty", there were apparently inconsistencies with the claimants recollection of events, with no witnesses to specific events.
Further, it has come to light in court that he is a "touchy feely" kind of person.... So who knows the real story???
.... However, some women do intentionally draw attention, but can't handle when they get more than what they expected.... Just saying.... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"However, some women do intentionally draw attention, but can't handle when they get more than what they expected.... Just saying...."
I don’t even have the words...the fuck?! |
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"12 cases - not guilty
1 case - not proven (which is not the same as not guilty)
Bullshit
educate yourself
The not proven verdict is an unusual and highly controversial feature of the Scottish legal system which in practice is exactly the same as a verdict of not guilty
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what part of - exactly the same as a verdict of not guilty - do you not understand "
Or....
the "not proven" verdict is widely regarded as an acquittal used when the judge or jury does not have enough evidence to convict but is not sufficiently convinced of the accused person's innocence to bring in a "not guilty" verdict.
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By *erdyWoman
over a year ago
wiltshire |
"Cleared of ALL Charges and looking to return to politics
excellent news
Here come the irate feminists who think the legal system failed. "
I agree. Frustrates me greatly when a man is cleared of sexual assault but yet some people can't still except that the accused could of actually been innocent all along . Fact of life that some sick women do make these things up. Have been many many cases of this. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Cleared of ALL Charges and looking to return to politics
excellent news"
innocent until proven guilty, so not proven but because its been publicised he is in many peoples eyes  |
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"Cleared of ALL Charges and looking to return to politics
excellent news
Here come the irate feminists who think the legal system failed. I agree. Frustrates me greatly when a man is cleared of sexual assault but yet some people can't still except that the accused could of actually been innocent all along . Fact of life that some sick women do make these things up. Have been many many cases of this. "
Or as insinuated above they just got what they were asking for. |
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By *SAchickWoman
over a year ago
Hillside desolate |
"I was surprised by the verdict, but while technically "not guilty", there were apparently inconsistencies with the claimants recollection of events, with no witnesses to specific events.
Further, it has come to light in court that he is a "touchy feely" kind of person.... So who knows the real story???
.... However, some women do intentionally draw attention, but can't handle when they get more than what they expected.... Just saying...."
Ah, the old "they were asking for it" defence  |
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By *erdyWoman
over a year ago
wiltshire |
"Technically, Alex Salmond - found not guilty.
That's entirely different from him being innocent. "
I guess you were a fly on the wall then ; that witnessed all he was accused of then  |
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By *erdyWoman
over a year ago
wiltshire |
"Why would they make it up?. A sad day for females.
hang on a minute. loads of men get labelled and have false allegations made against them.
lives are destroyed before many even get to court to have a trial.
the press, you, have already made youre mind up without knowing alex salmond or knowing any of the people making accusations against him.
some could have been cock teasers and money chasers but you don't want to hear that.
you just want to damn a man EVEN after a court of fair men and women listened to all the evidence from both sides.
he may have indeed at some point acted in a way deemed to be inappropriate but the jury cleared him.
he maybe chased privately threw the courts again for damages because the accused are not satisfied with the verdict.
if there was enough clear evidence of wrong doing he would of been found guilty regardless of who he is or in Salmonds case Was!.
this is not a sad day for women at all.
its only a sad day for you because you cannot spit out your bile at a man for a verdict you do not like.
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Well said, exactly this |
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By *hav02Man
over a year ago
Glasgow/London |
"I was surprised by the verdict, but while technically "not guilty", there were apparently inconsistencies with the claimants recollection of events, with no witnesses to specific events.
Further, it has come to light in court that he is a "touchy feely" kind of person.... So who knows the real story???
.... However, some women do intentionally draw attention, but can't handle when they get more than what they expected.... Just saying....
Ah, the old "they were asking for it" defence "
Not at all, but it happens...
eg. I know of a case in my social circle who was publicly accused as a rapist after he was accused. Many witnesses on the night in question verified that she led him on & she invited him to her house etc. While she has maintained anonymity throughout, the guy has had his career and family life shattered.... |
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" .... However, some women do intentionally draw attention, but can't handle when they get more than what they expected.... Just saying...."
Jesus christ, that's tantamount to saying 'then victim had it coming because she dressed provocatively'.
Assault is assault, it doesnt matter how flirty the person is or how theyre dressed |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Salmon has said his actions may have been inappropriate but he didn't break the law though his accusers would disagree.
Saying that the guy is a scumbag and not fit to make decisions on come dancing never mind hold political office. |
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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago
Dubai & Nottingham |
"Why would they make it up?. A sad day for females.
hang on a minute. loads of men get labelled and have false allegations made against them.
lives are destroyed before many even get to court to have a trial.
the press, you, have already made youre mind up without knowing alex salmond or knowing any of the people making accusations against him.
some could have been cock teasers and money chasers but you don't want to hear that.
you just want to damn a man EVEN after a court of fair men and women listened to all the evidence from both sides.
he may have indeed at some point acted in a way deemed to be inappropriate but the jury cleared him.
he maybe chased privately threw the courts again for damages because the accused are not satisfied with the verdict.
if there was enough clear evidence of wrong doing he would of been found guilty regardless of who he is or in Salmonds case Was!.
this is not a sad day for women at all.
its only a sad day for you because you cannot spit out your bile at a man for a verdict you do not like.
Well said, exactly this "
Look forward to hearing the truth finally , it goes back years and years , wasn’t he a swinger years ago and outed of politics for it ? |
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By *SAchickWoman
over a year ago
Hillside desolate |
"I was surprised by the verdict, but while technically "not guilty", there were apparently inconsistencies with the claimants recollection of events, with no witnesses to specific events.
Further, it has come to light in court that he is a "touchy feely" kind of person.... So who knows the real story???
.... However, some women do intentionally draw attention, but can't handle when they get more than what they expected.... Just saying....
Ah, the old "they were asking for it" defence
Not at all, but it happens...
eg. I know of a case in my social circle who was publicly accused as a rapist after he was accused. Many witnesses on the night in question verified that she led him on & she invited him to her house etc. While she has maintained anonymity throughout, the guy has had his career and family life shattered.... "
So what if she led him on. She could have straddled him naked for all I care, if she changed her mind and he didn't stop, what would you call that? Her own fault? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I was surprised by the verdict, but while technically "not guilty", there were apparently inconsistencies with the claimants recollection of events, with no witnesses to specific events.
Further, it has come to light in court that he is a "touchy feely" kind of person.... So who knows the real story???
.... However, some women do intentionally draw attention, but can't handle when they get more than what they expected.... Just saying....
Ah, the old "they were asking for it" defence
Not at all, but it happens...
eg. I know of a case in my social circle who was publicly accused as a rapist after he was accused. Many witnesses on the night in question verified that she led him on & she invited him to her house etc. While she has maintained anonymity throughout, the guy has had his career and family life shattered....
So what if she led him on. She could have straddled him naked for all I care, if she changed her mind and he didn't stop, what would you call that? Her own fault? "
I weep for humanity. I really do.  |
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You should be aware of the difference between innocent and not guilty. Courts don't declare people innocent. They declare whether a case has or hasn't been proven beyond reasonable doubt. That's not the same. |
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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago
Dubai & Nottingham |
"You should be aware of the difference between innocent and not guilty. Courts don't declare people innocent. They declare whether a case has or hasn't been proven beyond reasonable doubt. That's not the same. "
Is that specific to Scotland ? In England you are innocent until proven guilty, so by not proving you guilty you remain innocent. Which is reasonable to then say they were declared innocent. The not proven one is slightly different I guess.
Interesting how intricacies of legal decision making is always scrutinised when a certain case doesn’t go how some people it want , but the rest of he time it’s fine. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I was surprised by the verdict, but while technically "not guilty", there were apparently inconsistencies with the claimants recollection of events, with no witnesses to specific events.
Further, it has come to light in court that he is a "touchy feely" kind of person.... So who knows the real story???
.... However, some women do intentionally draw attention, but can't handle when they get more than what they expected.... Just saying...."
I have no opinion on this subject, however your comment is a bit worrying! "can't handle when they get more than expected" are you for real sex pest in the making. |
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