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By *ucspark OP Man
over a year ago
dudley |
Before we start it not a crack at the service they are the best and save lives everyday. I have always given to them and as long as they need money always will.
On the bbc news site it had about the grounding of the EC135 for safety reasons again great that they so proactive. But in article it mentioned that the Scottish air ambulances are government funded but the British and welsh are done by charity. Spoke to someone from my local air ambulance and it is correct but the lady also mentioned the government charge fuel duty on the helicopters fuel and because of price rises each flight is costing up to £500 more than a few years ago. My boil almost boiled over every government seem to want to shaft everyone but themselves.  |
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Scots get a lot that we in England and Wales do not, so seems par for the course, imo.
dunno why governments always try to curry favour with such a small country that doesnt even want anything to do with the UK anymore.
let them have their FREEDOM!!! and fend for themselves.
will soon see all the free stuff they get dissipate, even with NSO money |
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"Before we start it not a crack at the service they are the best and save lives everyday. I have always given to them and as long as they need money always will.
On the bbc news site it had about the grounding of the EC135 for safety reasons again great that they so proactive. But in article it mentioned that the Scottish air ambulances are government funded but the British and welsh are done by charity. Spoke to someone from my local air ambulance and it is correct but the lady also mentioned the government charge fuel duty on the helicopters fuel and because of price rises each flight is costing up to £500 more than a few years ago. My boil almost boiled over every government seem to want to shaft everyone but themselves. "
I used to work for The ambulance service in the west midlands and what you say is spot on. It should be government funded but also they should give them Twin engined helicopters so that they are able to fly at night. This and the funding has and always will be a bone of contention |
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By *ucspark OP Man
over a year ago
dudley |
"Before we start it not a crack at the service they are the best and save lives everyday. I have always given to them and as long as they need money always will.
On the bbc news site it had about the grounding of the EC135 for safety reasons again great that they so proactive. But in article it mentioned that the Scottish air ambulances are government Tfunded but the British and welsh are done by charity. Spoke to someone from my local air ambulance and it is correct but the lady also mentioned the government charge fuel duty on the helicopters fuel and because of price rises each flight is costing up to £500 more than a few years ago. My boil almost boiled over every government seem to want to shaft everyone but themselves.
I used to work for The ambulance service in the west midlands and what you say is spot on. It should be government funded but also they should give them Twin engined helicopters so that they are able to fly at night. This and the funding has and always will be a bone of contention"
At the moment there is talk of making one of our three enabled for night flights.
I just think they are getting shafted and as such so are we |
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"Before we start it not a crack at the service they are the best and save lives everyday. I have always given to them and as long as they need money always will.
On the bbc news site it had about the grounding of the EC135 for safety reasons again great that they so proactive. But in article it mentioned that the Scottish air ambulances are government funded but the British and welsh are done by charity. Spoke to someone from my local air ambulance and it is correct but the lady also mentioned the government charge fuel duty on the helicopters fuel and because of price rises each flight is costing up to £500 more than a few years ago. My boil almost boiled over every government seem to want to shaft everyone but themselves.
I used to work for The ambulance service in the west midlands and what you say is spot on. It should be government funded but also they should give them Twin engined helicopters so that they are able to fly at night. This and the funding has and always will be a bone of contention"
so, are single engined copters not allowed to fly at night  |
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By *ucspark OP Man
over a year ago
dudley |
"Before we start it not a crack at the service they are the best and save lives everyday. I have always given to them and as long as they need money always will.
On the bbc news site it had about the grounding of the EC135 for safety reasons again great that they so proactive. But in article it mentioned that the Scottish air ambulances are government funded but the British and welsh are done by charity. Spoke to someone from my local air ambulance and it is correct but the lady also mentioned the government charge fuel duty on the helicopters fuel and because of price rises each flight is costing up to £500 more than a few years ago. My boil almost boiled over every government seem to want to shaft everyone but themselves.
I used to work for The ambulance service in the west midlands and what you say is spot on. It should be government funded but also they should give them Twin engined helicopters so that they are able to fly at night. This and the funding has and always will be a bone of contention
so, are single engined copters not allowed to fly at night "
Not sure if it the helicopter or the ground station, I know west Mids runs from 07.00 to 21.00 on average. But I would have thought it to do more with ground conditions than the helicopter |
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By *b430Man
over a year ago
Tayside |
"Scots get a lot that we in England and Wales do not, so seems par for the course, imo.
dunno why governments always try to curry favour with such a small country that doesnt even want anything to do with the UK anymore.
let them have their FREEDOM!!! and fend for themselves.
will soon see all the free stuff they get dissipate, even with NSO money"
The Scottish Government fund the Scottish Air Ambulances just like they fund our free prescriptions - the UK Government isn't trying to "curry favour" with our "small country" as you put it!  |
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By *ucspark OP Man
over a year ago
dudley |
"Scots get a lot that we in England and Wales do not, so seems par for the course, imo.
dunno why governments always try to curry favour with such a small country that doesnt even want anything to do with the UK anymore.
let them have their FREEDOM!!! and fend for themselves.
will soon see all the free stuff they get dissipate, even with NSO money
The Scottish Government fund the Scottish Air Ambulances just like they fund our free prescriptions - the UK Government isn't trying to "curry favour" with our "small country" as you put it! "
Scotland doing what most of England would love to happen |
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By *ybMan
over a year ago
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Hi everyone
The Eurocopter135 is a twin engined helicopter which allows it to land in more built up areas/fly faster/have increased flexibility/carrying capacity over where and what single engine heli's can do or go etc. Flying is usually based around 20 before sunrise and 20 after sunset at the outset. Night time flying requires the extra training of pilots/hour building and flying with instruments(flying blind trusting what effectively is your dashboard is telling you) but that's not usually a problem as the machines have the equipment and air ambulance pilots are ex military or really do have 100's of flying hours behind them etc.Weather of course does play a massive part which is why you see Sea Kings and the modern equivilent even bigger machines to cope with bad conditions.
This is of course a brief explanation of what is involved.
I support our local charity when I can etc and I agree they provide a wonderfull an invaluable service. Lots of cases the golden hour and difference between life and death. 
Cheers
Mx
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By (user no longer on site)
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its nice o see that people do support theses charity's i have just been informed by one of my Masonic friends that the Warwickshire freemasons have just given 1 million pounds to the county air ambulance |
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"its nice o see that people do support theses charity's i have just been informed by one of my Masonic friends that the Warwickshire freemasons have just given 1 million pounds to the county air ambulance "
The Masons are one of the biggest private donors to charity in the UK.
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We have a really big air ambulance and emergency response vehicle charity here. In fact i think its the biggest local charity as one of the doctors runs it. Its amazing that the doctors that go out on these emergencys do it voluntarily yet the bloody goverment cant fund the helicopters, vehicles and equipment. Luckily for us ours does always have good funding from events and personal donations |
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By *ucspark OP Man
over a year ago
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"We have a really big air ambulance and emergency response vehicle charity here. In fact i think its the biggest local charity as one of the doctors runs it. Its amazing that the doctors that go out on these emergencys do it voluntarily yet the bloody goverment cant fund the helicopters, vehicles and equipment. Luckily for us ours does always have good funding from events and personal donations"
And it's great that everyone is so bothered to make sure they stay flying as someone else as said you never know when you might need it. I know a few months back the west Mids air ambulance charity got raided by robbers and money stolen, not sure if they ever got caught. If not sure their god be waiting for a quiet word at some point.  |
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"its nice o see that people do support theses charity's i have just been informed by one of my Masonic friends that the Warwickshire freemasons have just given 1 million pounds to the county air ambulance The Masons are one of the biggest private donors to charity in the UK."
Yes we are |
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"We have a really big air ambulance and emergency response vehicle charity here. In fact i think its the biggest local charity as one of the doctors runs it. Its amazing that the doctors that go out on these emergencys do it voluntarily yet the bloody goverment cant fund the helicopters, vehicles and equipment. Luckily for us ours does always have good funding from events and personal donations"
We also have a community responder scheme which again rely's on charity donations to keep running, they are volunteers that respond to 999 calls whilst an ambulance is en-roue |
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By *ucspark OP Man
over a year ago
dudley |
"its nice o see that people do support theses charity's i have just been informed by one of my Masonic friends that the Warwickshire freemasons have just given 1 million pounds to the county air ambulance The Masons are one of the biggest private donors to charity in the UK.
Yes we are "
Is that why they fly with one wheel down as a mark of thanks 
Think it great that they back such a great cause |
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just a quick hi-jack lol 
while we are on the subject of non funded rescues
can I remind every one about the mountain rescue teams
all volunteers and have to raise all there own funds for landrovers and rescue equipment
ok back to air ambulance |
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By *ucspark OP Man
over a year ago
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"just a quick hi-jack lol
while we are on the subject of non funded rescues
can I remind every one about the mountain rescue teams
all volunteers and have to raise all there own funds for landrovers and rescue equipment
ok back to air ambulance "
They do an amazing job in conditions you wouldn't expect a dog out in. |
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"just a quick hi-jack lol
while we are on the subject of non funded rescues
can I remind every one about the mountain rescue teams
all volunteers and have to raise all there own funds for landrovers and rescue equipment
ok back to air ambulance "
Hijack away they do just as good a job and yes like all the others they have to raise there own funds, it is totally wrong, the countless lives that have been saved over the years because of theses brave men and women, the government should take note and give them funding |
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By *ucspark OP Man
over a year ago
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As a off shoot did you know the ambulance service is not classed as a emergency service by the government but a essential service like gas and electric. I did not know this but found a e petition for it
http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/3825 |
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Although it may not be gov funded I work for a British army helicopter unit and we've been fuelling our local air ambulance and obviously our fuel is paid for by the gov |
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"As a off shoot did you know the ambulance service is not classed as a emergency service by the government but a essential service like gas and electric. I did not know this but found a e petition for it
http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/3825"
This has been going on for years now and we are waiting for a decision from the fat cats in Brussels...they are tasked to say whether or not the ambo service should be an emergency service. now if they say it is then they will have to bring the pay up in line with other services, but if they say no then all blue lights etc have got to be removed from vehicles |
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i would assume the air ambulance is funded in Scotland becasue it is the only useful form of ambulance for the Highlands and Islands.
That said i do believe they should be funded as part of the ambulance service in England too, but its not really comparing like with like.
In London not long ago i saw a paramedic on a bicycle, a great idea and perfectly suited to the conditions, but no use round here. |
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By *ucspark OP Man
over a year ago
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"i would assume the air ambulance is funded in Scotland becasue it is the only useful form of ambulance for the Highlands and Islands.
That said i do believe they should be funded as part of the ambulance service in England too, but its not really comparing like with like.
In London not long ago i saw a paramedic on a bicycle, a great idea and perfectly suited to the conditions, but no use round here."
To be fair be easier to get to highlands than parts of London. Totally agree that the two helicopters and two fixed wings are needed but same could be said of wales and Cornwall. Let's have a equal service for all. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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all for the air ambulances etc... but just a thought ... while ever we keep donating to keep them going, then the government will just take a back seat and let us carry on and not even offer financial help
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