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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Anyone seen the videos on YouTube of the markets in China where the virus is thought to of originated from?
Cats, dogs, bats, snakes, toads, rats and more are all on the menu.
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"Anyone seen the videos on YouTube of the markets in China where the virus is thought to of originated from?
Cats, dogs, bats, snakes, toads, rats and more are all on the menu.
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saw it a few days back, and people wonder why there's a virus |
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"Anyone seen the videos on YouTube of the markets in China where the virus is thought to of originated from?
Cats, dogs, bats, snakes, toads, rats and more are all on the menu.
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Animal meat... no different to a market here .....
Cow
Pig
Rabbit
Lamb
Liver
Heart
Testicles
Pigeon
Chicken
Turkey
Eel
Fish
Shelfish
Veal
List is endless... |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Anyone seen the videos on YouTube of the markets in China where the virus is thought to of originated from?
Cats, dogs, bats, snakes, toads, rats and more are all on the menu.
Animal meat... no different to a market here .....
Cow
Pig
Rabbit
Lamb
Liver
Heart
Testicles
Pigeon
Chicken
Turkey
Eel
Fish
Shelfish
Veal
List is endless... "
I think it is very different |
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"Anyone seen the videos on YouTube of the markets in China where the virus is thought to of originated from?
Cats, dogs, bats, snakes, toads, rats and more are all on the menu.
Animal meat... no different to a market here .....
Cow
Pig
Rabbit
Lamb
Liver
Heart
Testicles
Pigeon
Chicken
Turkey
Eel
Fish
Shelfish
Veal
List is endless... "
I draw the line at cats and dogs and rats being butchered and cooked on the street |
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"I saw one video of a woman feeding a child live tadpoles.
Why oh why  "
Because that’s the norm in their society. It’s as alien to me as it is to you but we are looking at it from the outside. If they know no other then that is their normality. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I saw one video of a woman feeding a child live tadpoles.
Why oh why
Like we swallow oysters .... ?"
No. These were alive swimming in a glass and the women scooped them up with a spoon and fed them to her child.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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People in Wigan think pea-wet and babby's yed are a delicacy, although the 'wigan kebab' is quite tasty. Every region of every country eat some right weird shit. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Yes, I've seen them
I've also seen the censured videos of the town during the quarantines and police brutality. Now that seems to be coming over here.
However, I believe the virus originated in a Wuhan lab, not the market.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Yes, I've seen them
I've also seen the censured videos of the town during the quarantines and police brutality. Now that seems to be coming over here.
However, I believe the virus originated in a Wuhan lab, not the market.
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You think it originated in a lab? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Yes, I've seen them
I've also seen the censured videos of the town during the quarantines and police brutality. Now that seems to be coming over here.
However, I believe the virus originated in a Wuhan lab, not the market.
You think it originated in a lab? "
We're going to save a bomb on pensions all going to say |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I am astounded. Nobody i know has the virus, my lover works at biggest hospital in the area, nobody has the virus. Yet country gone nuts....utter scaremongering "
It's not scaremongering, it may not be In your local hospital but it is mine. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Yes, I've seen them
I've also seen the censured videos of the town during the quarantines and police brutality. Now that seems to be coming over here.
However, I believe the virus originated in a Wuhan lab, not the market.
You think it originated in a lab?
We're going to save a bomb on pensions all going to say"
What an awful attitude.  |
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"I saw one video of a woman feeding a child live tadpoles.
Why oh why
Like we swallow oysters .... ?
No. These were alive swimming in a glass and the women scooped them up with a spoon and fed them to her child.
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Oysters are alive. We rip the shell open and swallow them alive. |
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"Anyone seen the videos on YouTube of the markets in China where the virus is thought to of originated from?
Cats, dogs, bats, snakes, toads, rats and more are all on the menu.
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Have you seen the menu in here!!!!?? |
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"People in Wigan think pea-wet and babby's yed are a delicacy, although the 'wigan kebab' is quite tasty. Every region of every country eat some right weird shit."
I haven't got a problem with people eating weird food but having live, raw and cooked animals all on the same stall isn't good.
I have also seen a video of an oriental guy ripping the head of a live rat with his teeth and then eating it and one of a woman eating her way through the stomach of a live chicken...
That is how things like this get from animals to humans.
Eat what you like but do it in a humane and hygienic way... |
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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago
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"Anyone seen the videos on YouTube of the markets in China where the virus is thought to of originated from?
Cats, dogs, bats, snakes, toads, rats and more are all on the menu.
Animal meat... no different to a market here .....
Cow
Pig
Rabbit
Lamb
Liver
Heart
Testicles
Pigeon
Chicken
Turkey
Eel
Fish
Shelfish
Veal
List is endless... "
Gets me how people can eat factory farm meat pumped full of ABIs yuk , no wonder people are always sick putting that kind of shit inside their body |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Yes, I've seen them
I've also seen the censured videos of the town during the quarantines and police brutality. Now that seems to be coming over here.
However, I believe the virus originated in a Wuhan lab, not the market.
You think it originated in a lab?
We're going to save a bomb on pensions all going to say
What an awful attitude. "
Ment the attitude of the government not mine ffs |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Yes, I've seen them
I've also seen the censured videos of the town during the quarantines and police brutality. Now that seems to be coming over here.
However, I believe the virus originated in a Wuhan lab, not the market.
You think it originated in a lab? "
I don't know, of course. But I suspect it did. Apparently there's a lab over there where they carry some research on that type of things.
The last thing I head it that the virus has snake and bat DNA. I can't verify that information, but I heard that.
It's possible to watch some videos on bitchute or Lbry that are censured on other platforms. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Not wanting to let facts get in the way BUT that market isn’t actually in China - it’s in Indonesia.
Furthermore, it was filmed in 2015....."
I look at Chinese markets and Indonesian. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I saw one video of a woman feeding a child live tadpoles.
Why oh why
Like we swallow oysters .... ?
No. These were alive swimming in a glass and the women scooped them up with a spoon and fed them to her child.
Oysters are alive. We rip the shell open and swallow them alive."
Okay.
So you think carnivorous are the same as what we eat and see in our markets and butchers in the UK. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Anyone seen the videos on YouTube of the markets in China where the virus is thought to of originated from?
Cats, dogs, bats, snakes, toads, rats and more are all on the menu.
Animal meat... no different to a market here .....
Cow
Pig
Rabbit
Lamb
Liver
Heart
Testicles
Pigeon
Chicken
Turkey
Eel
Fish
Shelfish
Veal
List is endless... "
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I’ve seen various videos of those market places and it can’t be very hygienic to have people (members of the public) walking through there in flip flops walking through pools of blood on the floor.
The pythons and the cats upset me, huge pythons being chopped up and cats being picked up by the scruff and blow torched to death.
Very cruel. |
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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago
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"Anyone seen the videos on YouTube of the markets in China where the virus is thought to of originated from?
Cats, dogs, bats, snakes, toads, rats and more are all on the menu.
Animal meat... no different to a market here .....
Cow
Pig
Rabbit
Lamb
Liver
Heart
Testicles
Pigeon
Chicken
Turkey
Eel
Fish
Shelfish
Veal
List is endless... "
Its less about the meat that is used, but the conditions and manner in which the meat is kept and prepared. Tradition or not, regardless of what is being sold and served, if any western food establishment be it 5 star or weekend catering van, there is no way you would want to eat anything from there if it had even a fraction of the health and hygiene violations these blood bath markets have. |
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"I am astounded. Nobody i know has the virus, my lover works at biggest hospital in the area, nobody has the virus. Yet country gone nuts....utter scaremongering "
If nobody you know has it and it’s not in the hospital your lover works in, it mustn’t exist must it? |
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"I saw one video of a woman feeding a child live tadpoles.
Why oh why
Like we swallow oysters .... ?
No. These were alive swimming in a glass and the women scooped them up with a spoon and fed them to her child.
Oysters are alive. We rip the shell open and swallow them alive.
Okay.
So you think carnivorous are the same as what we eat and see in our markets and butchers in the UK. "
carnivorous what ? |
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"I am astounded. Nobody i know has the virus, my lover works at biggest hospital in the area, nobody has the virus. Yet country gone nuts....utter scaremongering "
Tell that to the 35 families who have lost someone to the virus in the UK.
Or how about the 1400+ families in Italy?
Shall I continue?
Don't be so insensitive and rude, especially when you're just plain wrong. |
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"I saw one video of a woman feeding a child live tadpoles.
Why oh why
Like we swallow oysters .... ?
No. These were alive swimming in a glass and the women scooped them up with a spoon and fed them to her child.
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But what's the connection to the Corona virus? |
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"Anyone seen the videos on YouTube of the markets in China where the virus is thought to of originated from?
Cats, dogs, bats, snakes, toads, rats and more are all on the menu.
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Sounds like "I'm a celebriy get me out of here". Maybe thats how the virus came to Britain, via a testicle eating celebrity. |
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"Anyone seen the videos on YouTube of the markets in China where the virus is thought to of originated from?
Cats, dogs, bats, snakes, toads, rats and more are all on the menu.
Sounds like "I'm a celebriy get me out of here". Maybe thats how the virus came to Britain, via a testicle eating celebrity."
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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago
Liverpool |
"I am astounded. Nobody i know has the virus, my lover works at biggest hospital in the area, nobody has the virus. Yet country gone nuts....utter scaremongering
Tell that to the 35 families who have lost someone to the virus in the UK.
Or how about the 1400+ families in Italy?
Shall I continue?
Don't be so insensitive and rude, especially when you're just plain wrong. "
The media's approach (especially written journalism, and social media) is certainly scaremongering.
But that doesn't take away the risks and danger to some that the virus certainly brings with it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"People in Wigan think pea-wet and babby's yed are a delicacy, although the 'wigan kebab' is quite tasty. Every region of every country eat some right weird shit."
Yeah like we eat vegetables here in Norfolk  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I saw one video of a woman feeding a child live tadpoles.
Why oh why
Like we swallow oysters .... ?
No. These were alive swimming in a glass and the women scooped them up with a spoon and fed them to her child.
Oysters are alive. We rip the shell open and swallow them alive.
Okay.
So you think carnivorous are the same as what we eat and see in our markets and butchers in the UK.
carnivorous what ?"
None of the animals you listed are carnivores but you said they're no different than what we see on the markets here.
I can't remember ever seeing foxes for sale in our butchers. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I saw one video of a woman feeding a child live tadpoles.
Why oh why
Like we swallow oysters .... ?
No. These were alive swimming in a glass and the women scooped them up with a spoon and fed them to her child.
But what's the connection to the Corona virus?"
There doesn't have to be a connection. I'm just saying what I saw. |
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"I am astounded. Nobody i know has the virus, my lover works at biggest hospital in the area, nobody has the virus. Yet country gone nuts....utter scaremongering
Tell that to the 35 families who have lost someone to the virus in the UK.
Or how about the 1400+ families in Italy?
Shall I continue?
Don't be so insensitive and rude, especially when you're just plain wrong. "
This! If you look at the fatality rates between Covid-19 and seasonal flu, I think it’s pretty obvious that this isn’t scaremongering anymore! |
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"I am astounded. Nobody i know has the virus, my lover works at biggest hospital in the area, nobody has the virus. Yet country gone nuts....utter scaremongering "
There are/have been 3 cases in our postcode area. This covers over 285,000 people, the largest town in England plus a bit of the adjoining town. The first patient was infected on Italy weeks ago and my understanding is that the other two are family members. All of them were isolated immediately and they should have recovered or be damned close.
Yet, despite that stat (easy to find for your postcode), the supermarkets are bare, can't book a home food delivery (normal size) for a week and the world is going hell in a handcart. It's insane. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I am astounded. Nobody i know has the virus, my lover works at biggest hospital in the area, nobody has the virus. Yet country gone nuts....utter scaremongering
There are/have been 3 cases in our postcode area. This covers over 285,000 people, the largest town in England plus a bit of the adjoining town. The first patient was infected on Italy weeks ago and my understanding is that the other two are family members. All of them were isolated immediately and they should have recovered or be damned close.
Yet, despite that stat (easy to find for your postcode), the supermarkets are bare, can't book a home food delivery (normal size) for a week and the world is going hell in a handcart. It's insane. "
People are right to be worried, as the fatality rates in Italy, the rate of infection, the disruption to normal life and the economic uncertainty will testify.
However the situation in the supermarkets isn't because of rational thought. Terminally stupid people exist in all walks of life. When people get worried they look for something they can do to ease their worries that they think may improve their situation, it's human nature. A lot of us will look into detailed accounts, theories, patterns and probabilities to educate themselves further on this new threat, believing they stand a better chance if they know their enemy.
But terminally stupid people lack the brain power or concentration to be able to do any of this and it makes their heads hurt ever so much. So they do what they are just about capable of to ease their feeling helpless and go into an Asda and buy 48 toilet rolls.
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The extreme of "end of the world, buy everything" is dangerous.
The extreme of "it's scaremongering. Nothing to worry about" is also dangerous.
It's still serious, and should be taken as such. Neither extreme viewpoint is right or safe. |
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By *etLikeMan
over a year ago
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"I am astounded. Nobody i know has the virus, my lover works at biggest hospital in the area, nobody has the virus. Yet country gone nuts....utter scaremongering
There are/have been 3 cases in our postcode area. This covers over 285,000 people, the largest town in England plus a bit of the adjoining town. The first patient was infected on Italy weeks ago and my understanding is that the other two are family members. All of them were isolated immediately and they should have recovered or be damned close.
Yet, despite that stat (easy to find for your postcode), the supermarkets are bare, can't book a home food delivery (normal size) for a week and the world is going hell in a handcart. It's insane.
People are right to be worried, as the fatality rates in Italy, the rate of infection, the disruption to normal life and the economic uncertainty will testify.
However the situation in the supermarkets isn't because of rational thought. Terminally stupid people exist in all walks of life. When people get worried they look for something they can do to ease their worries that they think may improve their situation, it's human nature. A lot of us will look into detailed accounts, theories, patterns and probabilities to educate themselves further on this new threat, believing they stand a better chance if they know their enemy.
But terminally stupid people lack the brain power or concentration to be able to do any of this and it makes their heads hurt ever so much. So they do what they are just about capable of to ease their feeling helpless and go into an Asda and buy 48 toilet rolls.
B"
Funny but also accurate explanation of the phenomenon |
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By *etLikeMan
over a year ago
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As far as the market is concerned. A wet market, is in itself not dangerous for cross contamination; it’s the people not practising correct hygiene that causes problems.
Wet markets can be wonderful places to pick up fresh meat, fish. I know ones I visit in Malaysia. I also know one I avoid because of the hygiene factor.
How many people here do not wash their hands after handing raw meat? How many don’t wash their hands after using a toilet?
It’s people who cause these things to happen and those same selfish, ignorant people exist in as much proportion here as in China or any other country. |
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"Anyone seen the videos on YouTube of the markets in China where the virus is thought to of originated from?
Cats, dogs, bats, snakes, toads, rats and more are all on the menu.
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If the legs and wing are not made from metal wood or plastic, “ they will eat it “.
They are called wet markets because of the flowing blood from live animals being slaughtered there and then as the Chinese want their meet fresh as possible.
Any surprise we are in this situation. |
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"I am astounded. Nobody i know has the virus, my lover works at biggest hospital in the area, nobody has the virus. Yet country gone nuts....utter scaremongering
There are/have been 3 cases in our postcode area. This covers over 285,000 people, the largest town in England plus a bit of the adjoining town. The first patient was infected on Italy weeks ago and my understanding is that the other two are family members. All of them were isolated immediately and they should have recovered or be damned close.
Yet, despite that stat (easy to find for your postcode), the supermarkets are bare, can't book a home food delivery (normal size) for a week and the world is going hell in a handcart. It's insane. "
Due to the dramatic DOUBLING of deaths in Ireland to 2, they have decided to lock down the entire country. No that wasn’t an Irish joke. Or was it ?. I’m covidfused |
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"Anyone seen the videos on YouTube of the markets in China where the virus is thought to of originated from?
Cats, dogs, bats, snakes, toads, rats and more are all on the menu.
Animal meat... no different to a market here .....
Cow
Pig
Rabbit
Lamb
Liver
Heart
Testicles
Pigeon
Chicken
Turkey
Eel
Fish
Shelfish
Veal
List is endless... "
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"Anyone seen the videos on YouTube of the markets in China where the virus is thought to of originated from?
Cats, dogs, bats, snakes, toads, rats and more are all on the menu.
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A field day for Vegetarians |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Anyone seen the videos on YouTube of the markets in China where the virus is thought to of originated from?
Cats, dogs, bats, snakes, toads, rats and more are all on the menu.
Animal meat... no different to a market here .....
Cow
Pig
Rabbit
Lamb
Liver
Heart
Testicles
Pigeon
Chicken
Turkey
Eel
Fish
Shelfish
Veal
List is endless... "
I can't see how you can give that a thumbs up.
Smh |
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"I saw one video of a woman feeding a child live tadpoles.
Why oh why
Like we swallow oysters .... ?
No. These were alive swimming in a glass and the women scooped them up with a spoon and fed them to her child.
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Like oysters from our sewage filled estuaries
Rabbits with Myxomatous
Almost raw beef
Un pasteurized milk
Squirrels are also on some menus |
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By *etLikeMan
over a year ago
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Is part of some posters’ clear revulsion by the thought of a wet market because they get their chicken in a plastic tray with cling film over it?
Try visiting an abattoir. The name shambles was originally used for the mess from a slaughterhouse or butchers.
Wet markets, if correct hygiene is observed, are no different.
Like a previous poster mentioned, a few years ago, a large number of us ate horse meat and were oblivious to it. Here’s another fact, we as humans cottoned onto the advantage of riding horses, long after we had simply seen them as a source of meat. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I saw one video of a woman feeding a child live tadpoles.
Why oh why
Like we swallow oysters .... ?
No. These were alive swimming in a glass and the women scooped them up with a spoon and fed them to her child.
Like oysters from our sewage filled estuaries
Rabbits with Myxomatous
Almost raw beef
Un pasteurized milk
Squirrels are also on some menus "
Okay let's put rats, bats, snakes, toads, dogs and cats on our menus since some of you don't mind. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Is part of some posters’ clear revulsion by the thought of a wet market because they get their chicken in a plastic tray with cling film over it?
Try visiting an abattoir. The name shambles was originally used for the mess from a slaughterhouse or butchers.
Wet markets, if correct hygiene is observed, are no different.
Like a previous poster mentioned, a few years ago, a large number of us ate horse meat and were oblivious to it. Here’s another fact, we as humans cottoned onto the advantage of riding horses, long after we had simply seen them as a source of meat. "
We are probably still eating horse meat. I would rather eat than than what I saw. |
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"Anyone seen the videos on YouTube of the markets in China where the virus is thought to of originated from?
Cats, dogs, bats, snakes, toads, rats and more are all on the menu.
If the legs and wing are not made from metal wood or plastic, “ they will eat it “.
They are called wet markets because of the flowing blood from live animals being slaughtered there and then as the Chinese want their meet fresh as possible.
Any surprise we are in this situation."
So basically, they don't have refrigeration yet. Gotcha. |
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"I am astounded. Nobody i know has the virus, my lover works at biggest hospital in the area, nobody has the virus. Yet country gone nuts....utter scaremongering
There are/have been 3 cases in our postcode area. This covers over 285,000 people, the largest town in England plus a bit of the adjoining town. The first patient was infected on Italy weeks ago and my understanding is that the other two are family members. All of them were isolated immediately and they should have recovered or be damned close.
Yet, despite that stat (easy to find for your postcode), the supermarkets are bare, can't book a home food delivery (normal size) for a week and the world is going hell in a handcart. It's insane.
Due to the dramatic DOUBLING of deaths in Ireland to 2, they have decided to lock down the entire country. No that wasn’t an Irish joke. Or was it ?. I’m covidfused "
I work in an international college of over 1300 students and 200+ staff. We come from all over the world. Zero cases, either suspected or otherwise. I'm with you, my friend. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I am astounded. Nobody i know has the virus, my lover works at biggest hospital in the area, nobody has the virus. Yet country gone nuts....utter scaremongering
There are/have been 3 cases in our postcode area. This covers over 285,000 people, the largest town in England plus a bit of the adjoining town. The first patient was infected on Italy weeks ago and my understanding is that the other two are family members. All of them were isolated immediately and they should have recovered or be damned close.
Yet, despite that stat (easy to find for your postcode), the supermarkets are bare, can't book a home food delivery (normal size) for a week and the world is going hell in a handcart. It's insane.
Due to the dramatic DOUBLING of deaths in Ireland to 2, they have decided to lock down the entire country. No that wasn’t an Irish joke. Or was it ?. I’m covidfused
I work in an international college of over 1300 students and 200+ staff. We come from all over the world. Zero cases, either suspected or otherwise. I'm with you, my friend. "
Don't give it time to snowball. Ireland should lock down. |
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"I saw one video of a woman feeding a child live tadpoles.
Why oh why
Like we swallow oysters .... ?
No. These were alive swimming in a glass and the women scooped them up with a spoon and fed them to her child.
Like oysters from our sewage filled estuaries
Rabbits with Myxomatous
Almost raw beef
Un pasteurized milk
Squirrels are also on some menus
Okay let's put rats, bats, snakes, toads, dogs and cats on our menus since some of you don't mind. "
rabbit is rodent like rat
I like frog
Snake is delicious
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"I saw one video of a woman feeding a child live tadpoles.
Why oh why
Like we swallow oysters .... ?
No. These were alive swimming in a glass and the women scooped them up with a spoon and fed them to her child.
Like oysters from our sewage filled estuaries
Rabbits with Myxomatous
Almost raw beef
Un pasteurized milk
Squirrels are also on some menus
Okay let's put rats, bats, snakes, toads, dogs and cats on our menus since some of you don't mind. "
You dont eat sausage or so called meat pies do you
Mmmm mechanically extracted erm meat
Mmm kidney an animals waste cleaning system
Mm pigs anus is classed as meat mmmm |
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By *adetMan
over a year ago
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1.It first appeared in December 2019 when 40 people tested positive. All were linked to the wet market
2.They have already pinpointed exactly when it made the jump from animals to humans - the 3rd week of November 2019
3.They believe it very likely came from either Bats or Pangolins
4. It's also likely it will get worse before it gets better and it will not be over in just a few weeks |
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"It’s sad that there’s so many people that they’ve had to resort to eating things like that.
Meat is meat, anyway.
And no - it didn’t come from the food "
They don't resort to eating 'meat like that'.....
It's the meat that lives there.
We ate such foods at one time.
Do you have frogs legs ? Well leap over the counter and get me a cheese butty ..... |
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"I saw one video of a woman feeding a child live tadpoles.
Why oh why
Like we swallow oysters .... ?
No. These were alive swimming in a glass and the women scooped them up with a spoon and fed them to her child.
Like oysters from our sewage filled estuaries
Rabbits with Myxomatous
Almost raw beef
Un pasteurized milk
Squirrels are also on some menus
Okay let's put rats, bats, snakes, toads, dogs and cats on our menus since some of you don't mind. "
Fine Mickey .... go get em.
I'll stick to veg. |
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I don't get the, it ok to eat this animal, cow, pig, rabbit, crab, deer, chicken, frogs legs etc but oh it's so disgusting if you eat a bat, rat, cat, dog, toad etc. |
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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago
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"I think its a biological weapon that was stolen then let of ,for something that quick to spread round the world it has to be bio weapon, i think its a big government cover up .."
As I said in reply the other day...
You are underestimating the pure destructive force that is nature, evolution and viral mutations. That's what a virus does. There have been many viruses like this in the past that have spread just as quickly in terms of how contagious they are, if not even more contagious. Air travel has just made it even easier for it the spread across the globe instead of limited to a town, city, or country.
Could it potentially have been modified by humans in an attempt to create a bio weapon? Yes, there is potential for a lot of things.
But it's ability to spread as it has is a pretty weak ass basis for that assumption based on the things that nature has created in the past. |
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By *adetMan
over a year ago
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"I don't get the, it ok to eat this animal, cow, pig, rabbit, crab, deer, chicken, frogs legs etc but oh it's so disgusting if you eat a bat, rat, cat, dog, toad etc. "
There is no difference I agree but it is wrong to not maintain a certain standard of hygiene, so much so that the place you buy your food from is basically one giant petri dish. It was an accident waiting to happen |
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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago
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"I don't get the, it ok to eat this animal, cow, pig, rabbit, crab, deer, chicken, frogs legs etc but oh it's so disgusting if you eat a bat, rat, cat, dog, toad etc. "
They eat them raw and sometimes still alive |
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"I don't get the, it ok to eat this animal, cow, pig, rabbit, crab, deer, chicken, frogs legs etc but oh it's so disgusting if you eat a bat, rat, cat, dog, toad etc.
They eat them raw and sometimes still alive "
I know I saw Rick Stein do it lots of time they are filter feeders too eating our faeces
Fish raw as well as oysters the parasites they could have are un unthinkable |
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They eat them raw and sometimes still alive "
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"I think its a biological weapon that was stolen then let of ,for something that quick to spread round the world it has to be bio weapon, i think its a big government cover up .."
I also wonder if like aids,that initially hit black gay guys,(and then this new virus that originated in China (that USA are odds against) are somehow connected?
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By *adetMan
over a year ago
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It is in no way a government conspiracy. Scientists have been warning about this for years and it was an accident just waiting to happen
Its a virus that jumped from animals to humans. And in the words of Ash from Alien "it's one tough little son of a bitch" |
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"I don't get the, it ok to eat this animal, cow, pig, rabbit, crab, deer, chicken, frogs legs etc but oh it's so disgusting if you eat a bat, rat, cat, dog, toad etc.
They eat them raw and sometimes still alive
Also seen game hunters handling the birds they have just shot after it's been slobered on by the dog did not wash their hands either as for rabbits with mixi well "
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"It’s sad that there’s so many people that they’ve had to resort to eating things like that.
Meat is meat, anyway.
And no - it didn’t come from the food
They don't resort to eating 'meat like that'.....
It's the meat that lives there.
We ate such foods at one time.
Do you have frogs legs ? Well leap over the counter and get me a cheese butty ..... "
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By *etLikeMan
over a year ago
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If you had asked the average Brit 30 years ago, to spend a tenner on three pieces of raw fish wrapped in sea; there would be no takers.
I’m not saying we are going to be eating cats over here in years to come (even if I do keep threatening my darling cat that, if he doesn’t stop stealing my cheese, I’ll have him for next Christmas dinner) All I’m saying, is that we need to acknowledge cultural differences. We shouldn’t be using that as a stick to beat others with.
What we should be doing, is taking this chance to improve our level of hygiene everywhere; from wet markets to staff toilets.
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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago
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"If you had asked the average Brit 30 years ago, to spend a tenner on three pieces of raw fish wrapped in sea; there would be no takers.
I’m not saying we are going to be eating cats over here in years to come (even if I do keep threatening my darling cat that, if he doesn’t stop stealing my cheese, I’ll have him for next Christmas dinner) All I’m saying, is that we need to acknowledge cultural differences. We shouldn’t be using that as a stick to beat others with.
What we should be doing, is taking this chance to improve our level of hygiene everywhere; from wet markets to staff toilets.
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It's all well and good accepting cultural differences but when they cause a pandemic, how accepting do we have to be? |
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"If you had asked the average Brit 30 years ago, to spend a tenner on three pieces of raw fish wrapped in sea; there would be no takers.
I’m not saying we are going to be eating cats over here in years to come (even if I do keep threatening my darling cat that, if he doesn’t stop stealing my cheese, I’ll have him for next Christmas dinner) All I’m saying, is that we need to acknowledge cultural differences. We shouldn’t be using that as a stick to beat others with.
What we should be doing, is taking this chance to improve our level of hygiene everywhere; from wet markets to staff toilets.
It's all well and good accepting cultural differences but when they cause a pandemic, how accepting do we have to be? "
Probably not as much as for an atom bomb |
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By *adetMan
over a year ago
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"If you had asked the average Brit 30 years ago, to spend a tenner on three pieces of raw fish wrapped in sea; there would be no takers.
I’m not saying we are going to be eating cats over here in years to come (even if I do keep threatening my darling cat that, if he doesn’t stop stealing my cheese, I’ll have him for next Christmas dinner) All I’m saying, is that we need to acknowledge cultural differences. We shouldn’t be using that as a stick to beat others with.
What we should be doing, is taking this chance to improve our level of hygiene everywhere; from wet markets to staff toilets.
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But we do that already with our standards of hygiene
This is not the first time this kind of virus has evolved in China. The Chinese government didnt listen to the warnings |
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"I don't get the, it ok to eat this animal, cow, pig, rabbit, crab, deer, chicken, frogs legs etc but oh it's so disgusting if you eat a bat, rat, cat, dog, toad etc.
They eat them raw and sometimes still alive
Also seen game hunters handling the birds they have just shot after it's been slobered on by the dog did not wash their hands either as for rabbits with mixi well
I don't know how you can compare the two. "
Like this
They shoot wild things these wild things (birds) travel the world and it's as plausible for birds and wildlife to have any virus that exists anywhere in the world
They then touch said wildlife viral species jumping is equally plausible from bird hunting
Also Myxomatosis
From wiki
is a disease caused by Myxoma virus, a poxvirus in the genus Leporipoxvirus. The natural hosts are tapeti (Sylvilagus brasiliensis) in South and Central America, and brush rabbits (Sylvilagus bachmani) in North America. The myxoma virus causes only a mild disease in these species, but causes a severe and usually fatal disease in European rabbits (Oryctolagus cuniculus). Myxomatosis is an excellent example of what occurs when a virus jumps from a species adapted to it to a naive host, and has been extensively studied for this reason. The virus was intentionally introduced in Australia, France, and Chile in the 1950s to control wild European rabbit populations.
UK rabbits can have it
There is no reason it could not jump to humans although doubtful but that could be said of the Chinese virus
I suggest some are a bit quick to condemn others ( possibly rightly) without also looking inward or do we forget bse
Relevant enough for you ?
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"If you had asked the average Brit 30 years ago, to spend a tenner on three pieces of raw fish wrapped in sea; there would be no takers.
I’m not saying we are going to be eating cats over here in years to come (even if I do keep threatening my darling cat that, if he doesn’t stop stealing my cheese, I’ll have him for next Christmas dinner) All I’m saying, is that we need to acknowledge cultural differences. We shouldn’t be using that as a stick to beat others with.
What we should be doing, is taking this chance to improve our level of hygiene everywhere; from wet markets to staff toilets.
But we do that already with our standards of hygiene
This is not the first time this kind of virus has evolved in China. The Chinese government didnt listen to the warnings "
You sound complacent? |
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"I saw one video of a woman feeding a child live tadpoles.
Why oh why
Like we swallow oysters .... ?
No. These were alive swimming in a glass and the women scooped them up with a spoon and fed them to her child.
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She did... I saw that lol gross |
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"Yes, I've seen them
I've also seen the censured videos of the town during the quarantines and police brutality. Now that seems to be coming over here.
However, I believe the virus originated in a Wuhan lab, not the market.
You think it originated in a lab? "
Yep. I heard that. Man made virus.... in a lab in wuhan. |
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Why oh why
Like we swallow oysters .... ?
No. These were alive swimming in a glass and the women scooped them up with a spoon and fed them to her child.
She did... I saw that lol gross"
And for a little while on prime time TV millions tuned in to watch celebs eat live insects |
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I had the gall and adrenal gland from a live snake from a Honk Kong street vendor. I hadn’t an idea what was being ordered on my behalf, and before I could decline it was in a shot glass before me. I felt obliged to consume it because a snake had died on my behalf. Tasted fucking awful and kept me awake for two days. |
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"I think its a biological weapon that was stolen then let of ,for something that quick to spread round the world it has to be bio weapon, i think its a big government cover up .."
And your proof for this is what? This kind of shit and misinformation is what’s confusing people. Please don’t spread bullshit, there’s far too much out there already. |
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"Yes, I've seen them
I've also seen the censured videos of the town during the quarantines and police brutality. Now that seems to be coming over here.
However, I believe the virus originated in a Wuhan lab, not the market.
You think it originated in a lab?
Yep. I heard that. Man made virus.... in a lab in wuhan. "
More bollocks. |
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"I don't get the, it ok to eat this animal, cow, pig, rabbit, crab, deer, chicken, frogs legs etc but oh it's so disgusting if you eat a bat, rat, cat, dog, toad etc.
They eat them raw and sometimes still alive
Also seen game hunters handling the birds they have just shot after it's been slobered on by the dog did not wash their hands either as for rabbits with mixi well
I don't know how you can compare the two.
Like this
They shoot wild things these wild things (birds) travel the world and it's as plausible for birds and wildlife to have any virus that exists anywhere in the world
They then touch said wildlife viral species jumping is equally plausible from bird hunting
Also Myxomatosis
From wiki
is a disease caused by Myxoma virus, a poxvirus in the genus Leporipoxvirus. The natural hosts are tapeti (Sylvilagus brasiliensis) in South and Central America, and brush rabbits (Sylvilagus bachmani) in North America. The myxoma virus causes only a mild disease in these species, but causes a severe and usually fatal disease in European rabbits (Oryctolagus cuniculus). Myxomatosis is an excellent example of what occurs when a virus jumps from a species adapted to it to a naive host, and has been extensively studied for this reason. The virus was intentionally introduced in Australia, France, and Chile in the 1950s to control wild European rabbit populations.
UK rabbits can have it
There is no reason it could not jump to humans although doubtful but that could be said of the Chinese virus
I suggest some are a bit quick to condemn others ( possibly rightly) without also looking inward or do we forget bse
Relevant enough for you ?
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Mixies is one thing got nothing to do with what people are eating abroad and the way that they're preparing the food.
Of course we need to look inward but I see a lot more to condem looking outward. |
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That video of the market with all the snakes, dogs, rats, bats etc is Tomohon market in Indonesia, not Wuhan as it is being falsely reported. They likely have similar in Wuhan and the video is genuine, but it's not where folk are saying it is... |
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"Anyone seen the videos on YouTube of the markets in China where the virus is thought to of originated from?
Cats, dogs, bats, snakes, toads, rats and more are all on the menu.
Animal meat... no different to a market here .....
Cow
Pig
Rabbit
Lamb
Liver
Heart
Testicles
Pigeon
Chicken
Turkey
Eel
Fish
Shelfish
Veal
List is endless... "
Time we stopped f***ing about with animals. |
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"I had the gall and adrenal gland from a live snake from a Honk Kong street vendor. I hadn’t an idea what was being ordered on my behalf, and before I could decline it was in a shot glass before me. I felt obliged to consume it because a snake had died on my behalf. Tasted fucking awful and kept me awake for two days. "
Kept you awake as in you got a buzz off it? |
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"So many cultures eat different creatures than the western world, so what. It’s how they live and have done for centuries. Who are we to say it’s wrong ! "
We are right to say anything is wrong which spreads a disease.
This is not the first time that this happened and has long as the world doesn't come down hard on China to outlaw it, its inevitable that more diseases will originate from these markets around the world.
Maybe something even more serious which could whipe us all out. |
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"So many cultures eat different creatures than the western world, so what. It’s how they live and have done for centuries. Who are we to say it’s wrong !
We are right to say anything is wrong which spreads a disease.
This is not the first time that this happened and has long as the world doesn't come down hard on China to outlaw it, its inevitable that more diseases will originate from these markets around the world.
Maybe something even more serious which could whipe us all out. "
If that’s your thinking then ban any human from eating animals, as you may think that’s the only way viruses go from animals to humans
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"So many cultures eat different creatures than the western world, so what. It’s how they live and have done for centuries. Who are we to say it’s wrong !
We are right to say anything is wrong which spreads a disease.
This is not the first time that this happened and has long as the world doesn't come down hard on China to outlaw it, its inevitable that more diseases will originate from these markets around the world.
Maybe something even more serious which could whipe us all out.
If that’s your thinking then ban any human from eating animals, as you may think that’s the only way viruses go from animals to humans
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"Anyone seen the videos on YouTube of the markets in China where the virus is thought to of originated from?
Cats, dogs, bats, snakes, toads, rats and more are all on the menu.
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The problem isn't where it started it's why it traveled around the world?
Tourism/business trips and illegal migration and smuggling. Yes tourism is a neccesary evil but look how it's been underestimated. Cruise ships a lovely idea for the holidaymaker but not such a good idea in terms of pandemics.
The smuggling one should be a top target. Animals, food, drink, cosmetics and of course drugs/humans. These all have the potential to be highly contaminated and enter countries without safety checks.
The lady who died from Novichok poisoning, that was in a perfume bottle.
Not related to the current crisis but look how easily an innocent third party got affected.
The goverment needs to get it's act together. The honeymoons over they need to get back to reality.
We pay road tax, more revenue than ever but the roads are still a mess.
We pay income tax revenue from a 24/7 working culture but there isn't enough hospitals or ventilators for a crisis.
Wtf are they doing with all that money?
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Fascinating thread, just finished the whole thing.
I can't understand how some don't see a distinction beetwen the way animals are consumed in the western world and street markets in China. Is it in some way racist to criticise them??
It's glaringly obvious that the types and more specifically the mode of consumption of these animals is far more conducive to initiating disease than the way we consume animals. |
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"So many cultures eat different creatures than the western world, so what. It’s how they live and have done for centuries. Who are we to say it’s wrong !
We are right to say anything is wrong which spreads a disease.
This is not the first time that this happened and has long as the world doesn't come down hard on China to outlaw it, its inevitable that more diseases will originate from these markets around the world.
Maybe something even more serious which could whipe us all out.
If that’s your thinking then ban any human from eating animals, as you may think that’s the only way viruses go from animals to humans
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I don't think that. Just look at a few videos of these markets and see how you feel then.
Different species pilled up on top of each other alive in cages untill someone chooses one and its then pulled out by the neck then killed and quartered.
People in flip flops walking through pools of blood. Dogs, cats and whatever else they can get their hands on getting fried in the open.
Its no wonder the virus jumped from animals to humans. |
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"Fascinating thread, just finished the whole thing.
I can't understand how some don't see a distinction beetwen the way animals are consumed in the western world and street markets in China. Is it in some way racist to criticise them??
It's glaringly obvious that the types and more specifically the mode of consumption of these animals is far more conducive to initiating disease than the way we consume animals."
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"So many cultures eat different creatures than the western world, so what. It’s how they live and have done for centuries. Who are we to say it’s wrong !
We are right to say anything is wrong which spreads a disease.
This is not the first time that this happened and has long as the world doesn't come down hard on China to outlaw it, its inevitable that more diseases will originate from these markets around the world.
Maybe something even more serious which could whipe us all out.
If that’s your thinking then ban any human from eating animals, as you may think that’s the only way viruses go from animals to humans
I don't think that. Just look at a few videos of these markets and see how you feel then.
Different species pilled up on top of each other alive in cages untill someone chooses one and its then pulled out by the neck then killed and quartered.
People in flip flops walking through pools of blood. Dogs, cats and whatever else they can get their hands on getting fried in the open.
Its no wonder the virus jumped from animals to humans. "
It is their way of life like in so many counties around the world. Who are we to tell them to stop how they live ! |
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"Anyone seen the videos on YouTube of the markets in China where the virus is thought to of originated from?
Cats, dogs, bats, snakes, toads, rats and more are all on the menu.
The problem isn't where it started it's why it traveled around the world?
Tourism/business trips and illegal migration and smuggling. Yes tourism is a neccesary evil but look how it's been underestimated. Cruise ships a lovely idea for the holidaymaker but not such a good idea in terms of pandemics.
The smuggling one should be a top target. Animals, food, drink, cosmetics and of course drugs/humans. These all have the potential to be highly contaminated and enter countries without safety checks.
The lady who died from Novichok poisoning, that was in a perfume bottle.
Not related to the current crisis but look how easily an innocent third party got affected.
The goverment needs to get it's act together. The honeymoons over they need to get back to reality.
We pay road tax, more revenue than ever but the roads are still a mess.
We pay income tax revenue from a 24/7 working culture but there isn't enough hospitals or ventilators for a crisis.
Wtf are they doing with all that money?
The rich and privileged are looking after themselves and shifting any blame onto the already poor and most vulnerable.
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It's not so much what they eat but the extreme cruelty they inflict on them such as boiling dogs alive. Is there any proof that this is where the virus came from? Or do we not actually know for sure!? |
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"Anyone seen the videos on YouTube of the markets in China where the virus is thought to of originated from?
Cats, dogs, bats, snakes, toads, rats and more are all on the menu.
Animal meat... no different to a market here .....
Cow
Pig
Rabbit
Lamb
Liver
Heart
Testicles
Pigeon
Chicken
Turkey
Eel
Fish
Shelfish
Veal
List is endless...
I think it is very different "
It's really not, were just conditioned to think eating cats is weird. Eating a cat is no different to eating pig. |
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"It's not so much what they eat but the extreme cruelty they inflict on them such as boiling dogs alive. Is there any proof that this is where the virus came from? Or do we not actually know for sure!? "
We know for sure. See my post above |
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"So many cultures eat different creatures than the western world, so what. It’s how they live and have done for centuries. Who are we to say it’s wrong !
We are right to say anything is wrong which spreads a disease.
This is not the first time that this happened and has long as the world doesn't come down hard on China to outlaw it, its inevitable that more diseases will originate from these markets around the world.
Maybe something even more serious which could whipe us all out.
If that’s your thinking then ban any human from eating animals, as you may think that’s the only way viruses go from animals to humans
I don't think that. Just look at a few videos of these markets and see how you feel then.
Different species pilled up on top of each other alive in cages untill someone chooses one and its then pulled out by the neck then killed and quartered.
People in flip flops walking through pools of blood. Dogs, cats and whatever else they can get their hands on getting fried in the open.
Its no wonder the virus jumped from animals to humans.
It is their way of life like in so many counties around the world. Who are we to tell them to stop how they live ! "
We are more health conscience. I can't see what is wrong with telling people something for their own good. |
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"So many cultures eat different creatures than the western world, so what. It’s how they live and have done for centuries. Who are we to say it’s wrong !
We are right to say anything is wrong which spreads a disease.
This is not the first time that this happened and has long as the world doesn't come down hard on China to outlaw it, its inevitable that more diseases will originate from these markets around the world.
Maybe something even more serious which could whipe us all out.
If that’s your thinking then ban any human from eating animals, as you may think that’s the only way viruses go from animals to humans
I don't think that. Just look at a few videos of these markets and see how you feel then.
Different species pilled up on top of each other alive in cages untill someone chooses one and its then pulled out by the neck then killed and quartered.
People in flip flops walking through pools of blood. Dogs, cats and whatever else they can get their hands on getting fried in the open.
Its no wonder the virus jumped from animals to humans.
It is their way of life like in so many counties around the world. Who are we to tell them to stop how they live ! "
I assume you apply that logic to female genital mutilation? |
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"I am astounded. Nobody i know has the virus, my lover works at biggest hospital in the area, nobody has the virus. Yet country gone nuts....utter scaremongering "
The first ones that got infected were unaware, now we are in the second stage when it's mostly idiots that get infected, further in the future it will be anyone because it'll be very spread out.
Today I met the mother of an infected person, they live in the same household and a co-worker spent a few minutes speaking to her. She was feeling curious and seem to find it interesting. You see, she's one of the idiots. I see more with those aptitudes reading the status of people on this site.
It's funny someone said that 'stupid virus' got her, in fact the virus seems clever and her stupid. |
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"Anyone seen the videos on YouTube of the markets in China where the virus is thought to of originated from?
Cats, dogs, bats, snakes, toads, rats and more are all on the menu.
Animal meat... no different to a market here .....
Cow
Pig
Rabbit
Lamb
Liver
Heart
Testicles
Pigeon
Chicken
Turkey
Eel
Fish
Shelfish
Veal
List is endless...
I think it is very different
It's really not, were just conditioned to think eating cats is weird. Eating a cat is no different to eating pig."
The only thing strange considering what people in the UK eat is pigs. Reason pigs aren't considered food in a lot of countries due to the fact it will eat anything including carrion.
Rule of thumb don't eat carnivores due to the extensive parasites and contaminants from eating other animals.
People still eat beef even though there's tapeworm eggs in the meat. But it's a herbivore.
China eat practically everything including wild bush meat which has had no treatment which means everything the animal is infected with or contaminated with is ingested. China was warned previously about the bat corona virus jumping to humans with someone infected before. It was just a matter of time it mutated. Il refer to another of the threads I pointed out some of the 18 other coronavirus carrying species of which humans eat including the UK. |
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"Anyone seen the videos on YouTube of the markets in China where the virus is thought to of originated from?
Cats, dogs, bats, snakes, toads, rats and more are all on the menu.
Animal meat... no different to a market here .....
Cow
Pig
Rabbit
Lamb
Liver
Heart
Testicles
Pigeon
Chicken
Turkey
Eel
Fish
Shelfish
Veal
List is endless...
I think it is very different
It's really not, were just conditioned to think eating cats is weird. Eating a cat is no different to eating pig.
The only thing strange considering what people in the UK eat is pigs. Reason pigs aren't considered food in a lot of countries due to the fact it will eat anything including carrion.
Rule of thumb don't eat carnivores due to the extensive parasites and contaminants from eating other animals.
People still eat beef even though there's tapeworm eggs in the meat. But it's a herbivore.
China eat practically everything including wild bush meat which has had no treatment which means everything the animal is infected with or contaminated with is ingested. China was warned previously about the bat corona virus jumping to humans with someone infected before. It was just a matter of time it mutated. Il refer to another of the threads I pointed out some of the 18 other coronavirus carrying species of which humans eat including the UK."
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"Yes, I've seen them
I've also seen the censured videos of the town during the quarantines and police brutality. Now that seems to be coming over here.
However, I believe the virus originated in a Wuhan lab, not the market.
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Yup, police being given powers to detain if they suspect you have it. Something much bigger going on here. |
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"Anyone seen the videos on YouTube of the markets in China where the virus is thought to of originated from?
Cats, dogs, bats, snakes, toads, rats and more are all on the menu.
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I draw the line at cats and dogs and rats being butchered and cooked on the street "
I stood and watched goats being slaughtered and butchered in the middle of the high street in Tangiers, the stench is unreal
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"So many cultures eat different creatures than the western world, so what. It’s how they live and have done for centuries. Who are we to say it’s wrong !
We are right to say anything is wrong which spreads a disease.
This is not the first time that this happened and has long as the world doesn't come down hard on China to outlaw it, its inevitable that more diseases will originate from these markets around the world.
Maybe something even more serious which could whipe us all out.
If that’s your thinking then ban any human from eating animals, as you may think that’s the only way viruses go from animals to humans
I don't think that. Just look at a few videos of these markets and see how you feel then.
Different species pilled up on top of each other alive in cages untill someone chooses one and its then pulled out by the neck then killed and quartered.
People in flip flops walking through pools of blood. Dogs, cats and whatever else they can get their hands on getting fried in the open.
Its no wonder the virus jumped from animals to humans.
It is their way of life like in so many counties around the world. Who are we to tell them to stop how they live ! "
Oh we can't tell them how to live. But we can present them with an overall bill for the rough amount that the coronavirus has cost the rest of the countries in the world combined, including the certain to follow recession... I think if they had to dig deep to pay off THAT then they may be a tad more hygienic in future....
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"So many cultures eat different creatures than the western world, so what. It’s how they live and have done for centuries. Who are we to say it’s wrong !
We are right to say anything is wrong which spreads a disease.
This is not the first time that this happened and has long as the world doesn't come down hard on China to outlaw it, its inevitable that more diseases will originate from these markets around the world.
Maybe something even more serious which could whipe us all out.
If that’s your thinking then ban any human from eating animals, as you may think that’s the only way viruses go from animals to humans
I don't think that. Just look at a few videos of these markets and see how you feel then.
Different species pilled up on top of each other alive in cages untill someone chooses one and its then pulled out by the neck then killed and quartered.
People in flip flops walking through pools of blood. Dogs, cats and whatever else they can get their hands on getting fried in the open.
Its no wonder the virus jumped from animals to humans.
It is their way of life like in so many counties around the world. Who are we to tell them to stop how they live !
Oh we can't tell them how to live. But we can present them with an overall bill for the rough amount that the coronavirus has cost the rest of the countries in the world combined, including the certain to follow recession... I think if they had to dig deep to pay off THAT then they may be a tad more hygienic in future....
B"
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Having seen footage from these Chinese " markets " I can say with a degree of confidence that this wont be the last virus emanating from that part of the world .
I watched live Toads being boiled and placed in a broth of some kind , I cant even describe what it looked like .
Casually watching was a young lady eating live scorpions off a wooden skewer .
And a group of men standing around whilst a live dog was being booked alive , yelping in pain .
Dont give me this shite about us eating cows and pigs and shit .
They are specifically bred for this and ( in the most part , apart from the disgraceful halal method) killed humanely , not thrown live into a vat of boiling water when an hour earlier they were happily scurrying around in the wild .
These certain practices should be outlawed, and China should be held accountable for this worldwide madness .
But it wont |
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"Having seen footage from these Chinese " markets " I can say with a degree of confidence that this wont be the last virus emanating from that part of the world .
I watched live Toads being boiled and placed in a broth of some kind , I cant even describe what it looked like .
Casually watching was a young lady eating live scorpions off a wooden skewer .
And a group of men standing around whilst a live dog was being booked alive , yelping in pain .
Dont give me this shite about us eating cows and pigs and shit .
They are specifically bred for this and ( in the most part , apart from the disgraceful halal method) killed humanely , not thrown live into a vat of boiling water when an hour earlier they were happily scurrying around in the wild .
These certain practices should be outlawed, and China should be held accountable for this worldwide madness .
But it wont "
I don't care what you eat. Relating to pigs did you know they carry 4 strains of coronavirus? Easily happen a swine strain mutating just as easily as the bat one.
How it's cooked has nothing to do with it. People consuming bats when even warned about the virus crossing species people carried on eating them. They ignored the warnings of a human mutation of the bat strain. Feel free to read up on all the strains of the corona viruses you'll find most carriers you already consume. 3 zoonotic human mutations so far. |
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"Having seen footage from these Chinese " markets " I can say with a degree of confidence that this wont be the last virus emanating from that part of the world .
I watched live Toads being boiled and placed in a broth of some kind , I cant even describe what it looked like .
Casually watching was a young lady eating live scorpions off a wooden skewer .
And a group of men standing around whilst a live dog was being booked alive , yelping in pain .
Dont give me this shite about us eating cows and pigs and shit .
They are specifically bred for this and ( in the most part , apart from the disgraceful halal method) killed humanely , not thrown live into a vat of boiling water when an hour earlier they were happily scurrying around in the wild .
These certain practices should be outlawed, and China should be held accountable for this worldwide madness .
But it wont
I don't care what you eat. Relating to pigs did you know they carry 4 strains of coronavirus? Easily happen a swine strain mutating just as easily as the bat one.
How it's cooked has nothing to do with it. People consuming bats when even warned about the virus crossing species people carried on eating them. They ignored the warnings of a human mutation of the bat strain. Feel free to read up on all the strains of the corona viruses you'll find most carriers you already consume. 3 zoonotic human mutations so far."
And steps are taken to ensure this doesnt get to humans , yes occasionally, once in a blue moon accidents happen .
What doesnt happen though is wild animals are scooped up from their habitat , and chucked into a pot of boiling water and served as a fucking starter !!
If I served you up two small plates , one with a Pork Chop , and one with a boiled Bat , dont tell me you would chow down on Batfink !! |
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"Having seen footage from these Chinese " markets " I can say with a degree of confidence that this wont be the last virus emanating from that part of the world .
I watched live Toads being boiled and placed in a broth of some kind , I cant even describe what it looked like .
Casually watching was a young lady eating live scorpions off a wooden skewer .
And a group of men standing around whilst a live dog was being booked alive , yelping in pain .
Dont give me this shite about us eating cows and pigs and shit .
They are specifically bred for this and ( in the most part , apart from the disgraceful halal method) killed humanely , not thrown live into a vat of boiling water when an hour earlier they were happily scurrying around in the wild .
These certain practices should be outlawed, and China should be held accountable for this worldwide madness .
But it wont
I don't care what you eat. Relating to pigs did you know they carry 4 strains of coronavirus? Easily happen a swine strain mutating just as easily as the bat one.
How it's cooked has nothing to do with it. People consuming bats when even warned about the virus crossing species people carried on eating them. They ignored the warnings of a human mutation of the bat strain. Feel free to read up on all the strains of the corona viruses you'll find most carriers you already consume. 3 zoonotic human mutations so far.
And steps are taken to ensure this doesnt get to humans , yes occasionally, once in a blue moon accidents happen .
What doesnt happen though is wild animals are scooped up from their habitat , and chucked into a pot of boiling water and served as a fucking starter !!
If I served you up two small plates , one with a Pork Chop , and one with a boiled Bat , dont tell me you would chow down on Batfink !!"
I wouldn't eat either thanks I'm vegetarian and have been since I was 7
But if you go to a butcher's where do you think wild rabbit (has a coronavirus strain too) comes from? And pheasant? All those game birds? They aren't mass farmed across the country. Wild caught people still eat them. |
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"Anyone seen the videos on YouTube of the markets in China where the virus is thought to of originated from?
Cats, dogs, bats, snakes, toads, rats and more are all on the menu.
Animal meat... no different to a market here .....
Cow
Pig
Rabbit
Lamb
Liver
Heart
Testicles
Pigeon
Chicken
Turkey
Eel
Fish
Shelfish
Veal
List is endless... "
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"Anyone seen the videos on YouTube of the markets in China where the virus is thought to of originated from?
Cats, dogs, bats, snakes, toads, rats and more are all on the menu.
Animal meat... no different to a market here .....
Cow
Pig
Rabbit
Lamb
Liver
Heart
Testicles
Pigeon
Chicken
Turkey
Eel
Fish
Shelfish
Veal
List is endless...
I draw the line at cats and dogs and rats being butchered and cooked on the street "
Different strokes for different folks some of our foods probably seem weird to them. You're living a sanitised life away from the animals you eat. They don't have that luxury |
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"Having seen footage from these Chinese " markets " I can say with a degree of confidence that this wont be the last virus emanating from that part of the world .
I watched live Toads being boiled and placed in a broth of some kind , I cant even describe what it looked like .
Casually watching was a young lady eating live scorpions off a wooden skewer .
And a group of men standing around whilst a live dog was being booked alive , yelping in pain .
Dont give me this shite about us eating cows and pigs and shit .
They are specifically bred for this and ( in the most part , apart from the disgraceful halal method) killed humanely , not thrown live into a vat of boiling water when an hour earlier they were happily scurrying around in the wild .
These certain practices should be outlawed, and China should be held accountable for this worldwide madness .
But it wont
I don't care what you eat. Relating to pigs did you know they carry 4 strains of coronavirus? Easily happen a swine strain mutating just as easily as the bat one.
How it's cooked has nothing to do with it. People consuming bats when even warned about the virus crossing species people carried on eating them. They ignored the warnings of a human mutation of the bat strain. Feel free to read up on all the strains of the corona viruses you'll find most carriers you already consume. 3 zoonotic human mutations so far.
And steps are taken to ensure this doesnt get to humans , yes occasionally, once in a blue moon accidents happen .
What doesnt happen though is wild animals are scooped up from their habitat , and chucked into a pot of boiling water and served as a fucking starter !!
If I served you up two small plates , one with a Pork Chop , and one with a boiled Bat , dont tell me you would chow down on Batfink !!
I wouldn't eat either thanks I'm vegetarian and have been since I was 7
But if you go to a butcher's where do you think wild rabbit (has a coronavirus strain too) comes from? And pheasant? All those game birds? They aren't mass farmed across the country. Wild caught people still eat them."
Your not getting it , it's about the cooking methods and hygienic practices. Here, nobody throws a live rabbit into boiling water whilst people are walking through blood soaked markets , touching the animals and alike ( I've seen it ) .
And by the way , I am a butcher so I know what I'm talking about .
I've nothing against vegetarians whatsoever . I do get what you are saying , but I'm afraid China needs to be held accountable, I'm aware not all Chinese people dine this way , but it happened in their country , so they are accountable |
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"Having seen footage from these Chinese " markets " I can say with a degree of confidence that this wont be the last virus emanating from that part of the world .
I watched live Toads being boiled and placed in a broth of some kind , I cant even describe what it looked like .
Casually watching was a young lady eating live scorpions off a wooden skewer .
And a group of men standing around whilst a live dog was being booked alive , yelping in pain .
Dont give me this shite about us eating cows and pigs and shit .
They are specifically bred for this and ( in the most part , apart from the disgraceful halal method) killed humanely , not thrown live into a vat of boiling water when an hour earlier they were happily scurrying around in the wild .
These certain practices should be outlawed, and China should be held accountable for this worldwide madness .
But it wont
I don't care what you eat. Relating to pigs did you know they carry 4 strains of coronavirus? Easily happen a swine strain mutating just as easily as the bat one.
How it's cooked has nothing to do with it. People consuming bats when even warned about the virus crossing species people carried on eating them. They ignored the warnings of a human mutation of the bat strain. Feel free to read up on all the strains of the corona viruses you'll find most carriers you already consume. 3 zoonotic human mutations so far.
And steps are taken to ensure this doesnt get to humans , yes occasionally, once in a blue moon accidents happen .
What doesnt happen though is wild animals are scooped up from their habitat , and chucked into a pot of boiling water and served as a fucking starter !!
If I served you up two small plates , one with a Pork Chop , and one with a boiled Bat , dont tell me you would chow down on Batfink !!
I wouldn't eat either thanks I'm vegetarian and have been since I was 7
But if you go to a butcher's where do you think wild rabbit (has a coronavirus strain too) comes from? And pheasant? All those game birds? They aren't mass farmed across the country. Wild caught people still eat them."
I'm willing to bet that they aren't chopped up with the relevant blood splatters cascading all over the shop, including upon the cooked and ready to eat specimens nearby...
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"Having seen footage from these Chinese " markets " I can say with a degree of confidence that this wont be the last virus emanating from that part of the world .
I watched live Toads being boiled and placed in a broth of some kind , I cant even describe what it looked like .
Casually watching was a young lady eating live scorpions off a wooden skewer .
And a group of men standing around whilst a live dog was being booked alive , yelping in pain .
Dont give me this shite about us eating cows and pigs and shit .
They are specifically bred for this and ( in the most part , apart from the disgraceful halal method) killed humanely , not thrown live into a vat of boiling water when an hour earlier they were happily scurrying around in the wild .
These certain practices should be outlawed, and China should be held accountable for this worldwide madness .
But it wont
I don't care what you eat. Relating to pigs did you know they carry 4 strains of coronavirus? Easily happen a swine strain mutating just as easily as the bat one.
How it's cooked has nothing to do with it. People consuming bats when even warned about the virus crossing species people carried on eating them. They ignored the warnings of a human mutation of the bat strain. Feel free to read up on all the strains of the corona viruses you'll find most carriers you already consume. 3 zoonotic human mutations so far.
And steps are taken to ensure this doesnt get to humans , yes occasionally, once in a blue moon accidents happen .
What doesnt happen though is wild animals are scooped up from their habitat , and chucked into a pot of boiling water and served as a fucking starter !!
If I served you up two small plates , one with a Pork Chop , and one with a boiled Bat , dont tell me you would chow down on Batfink !!
I wouldn't eat either thanks I'm vegetarian and have been since I was 7
But if you go to a butcher's where do you think wild rabbit (has a coronavirus strain too) comes from? And pheasant? All those game birds? They aren't mass farmed across the country. Wild caught people still eat them.
I'm willing to bet that they aren't chopped up with the relevant blood splatters cascading all over the shop, including upon the cooked and ready to eat specimens nearby...
B"
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"Having seen footage from these Chinese " markets " I can say with a degree of confidence that this wont be the last virus emanating from that part of the world .
I watched live Toads being boiled and placed in a broth of some kind , I cant even describe what it looked like .
Casually watching was a young lady eating live scorpions off a wooden skewer .
And a group of men standing around whilst a live dog was being booked alive , yelping in pain .
Dont give me this shite about us eating cows and pigs and shit .
They are specifically bred for this and ( in the most part , apart from the disgraceful halal method) killed humanely , not thrown live into a vat of boiling water when an hour earlier they were happily scurrying around in the wild .
These certain practices should be outlawed, and China should be held accountable for this worldwide madness .
But it wont
I don't care what you eat. Relating to pigs did you know they carry 4 strains of coronavirus? Easily happen a swine strain mutating just as easily as the bat one.
How it's cooked has nothing to do with it. People consuming bats when even warned about the virus crossing species people carried on eating them. They ignored the warnings of a human mutation of the bat strain. Feel free to read up on all the strains of the corona viruses you'll find most carriers you already consume. 3 zoonotic human mutations so far.
And steps are taken to ensure this doesnt get to humans , yes occasionally, once in a blue moon accidents happen .
What doesnt happen though is wild animals are scooped up from their habitat , and chucked into a pot of boiling water and served as a fucking starter !!
If I served you up two small plates , one with a Pork Chop , and one with a boiled Bat , dont tell me you would chow down on Batfink !!
I wouldn't eat either thanks I'm vegetarian and have been since I was 7
But if you go to a butcher's where do you think wild rabbit (has a coronavirus strain too) comes from? And pheasant? All those game birds? They aren't mass farmed across the country. Wild caught people still eat them.
I'm willing to bet that they aren't chopped up with the relevant blood splatters cascading all over the shop, including upon the cooked and ready to eat specimens nearby...
B"
And contamination to you from the carcass you take home to cook? I don't see many butchers cooking the meat for you. |
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"Putting a different angle on cultural differences, who in their right mind decided to milk a cow and drink it?"
If a calf can drink it safely I assume is what they thought.
The world was saved from smallpox thanks to milking maids. |
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"Putting a different angle on cultural differences, who in their right mind decided to milk a cow and drink it?
I dont know , do you ?? Probably some 18th century pervert ??  "
Animal milk is estimated to have been used for 8000 to 10000 years. It wasn't originally d*unk fresh but used for yogurt, cheese and curds. |
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"Yes, I've seen them
I've also seen the censured videos of the town during the quarantines and police brutality. Now that seems to be coming over here.
However, I believe the virus originated in a Wuhan lab, not the market.
You think it originated in a lab?
We're going to save a bomb on pensions all going to say
What an awful attitude.
Ment the attitude of the government not mine ffs"
How is that the attitude of the government? If the government had no interest in saving lives they would just say for everyone to carry on as normal. That way, the vast majority of people who are of working age and contributing to the economy would carry on working having had only mild symptoms, and a large amount claiming state pensions wouldn't survive.
What they are actually doing is trying to stop the spread and save those lives. People complain about the schools staying open but if they close most parents still have to work meaning grandparents become childminders which puts them at more risk!
Its honestly laughable how people will jump on anything to attack the government. People need to remember that irrespective of who they voted for, we are always left with the government the majority wanted. Nobody on this site or forum has the advice/information they have available to them so how about, for once, people just pull together and show a little support. |
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"Yes, I've seen them
I've also seen the censured videos of the town during the quarantines and police brutality. Now that seems to be coming over here.
However, I believe the virus originated in a Wuhan lab, not the market.
You think it originated in a lab?
We're going to save a bomb on pensions all going to say
What an awful attitude.
Ment the attitude of the government not mine ffs
How is that the attitude of the government? If the government had no interest in saving lives they would just say for everyone to carry on as normal. That way, the vast majority of people who are of working age and contributing to the economy would carry on working having had only mild symptoms, and a large amount claiming state pensions wouldn't survive.
What they are actually doing is trying to stop the spread and save those lives. People complain about the schools staying open but if they close most parents still have to work meaning grandparents become childminders which puts them at more risk!
Its honestly laughable how people will jump on anything to attack the government. People need to remember that irrespective of who they voted for, we are always left with the government the majority wanted. Nobody on this site or forum has the advice/information they have available to them so how about, for once, people just pull together and show a little support. "
Oh things like pension, benefits, and reducing the long term users on the NHS WILL have been discussed and used as a pro in their decision making. It is niave to think that such a thing would not have crossed the minds of those in control. It is the type of things governments and businesses have to do, what benefits in any given situation. As cold hearted as it is, they would be foolish to not consider the possibility of taking advantage of it in their position. |
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